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Women Around the World: Listener Mail! · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie. Oh yeah, and Samantha, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to stuff. I've never told your production of IHI Radio.
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  Speaker 1: I forget what we were doing for a second. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: That's all of us, Samantha, and that's all of us.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a very special episode because it's a
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  Speaker 1: woman around the world Today. We wanted to highlight some
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  Speaker 1: listener mail that we've received from some of you, lovely listeners,
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  Speaker 1: women and non binary a like and yeah, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: are the focus around the world, around the world, and
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  Speaker 1: we're hoping to do more of these so always, we
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  Speaker 1: love hearing from you. Keep those messages coming. They brighten
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  Speaker 1: our day so much. And if you have a hard
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  Speaker 1: time figuring out our email because our email is complicated,
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  Speaker 1: just to message us. Yes, yeah, Twitter, Instagram you can
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  Speaker 1: find us. Yeah that we've been told the email is clunky,
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  Speaker 1: and we hear you, and we know we know that's true.
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  Speaker 1: We don't disagree. We do not disagree. Maybe we can
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  Speaker 1: contact someone about changing it. So let's let's dive right
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  Speaker 1: in here. Bryce wrote a long time listener, first time caller.
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  Speaker 1: I've always wanted to say that at L O L
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Yes, do please listen to meet me
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  Speaker 1: at the Altar. They are amazing pop punk all us
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  Speaker 1: a few other bands, spirit Box, Ganzer, Pleasure, Venom Police, Styrene,
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  Speaker 1: Bam Bam. So this was in response to episode we
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  Speaker 1: did on email and Pump Pock and did of pop punk.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, unfortunate misogyny in that world, but we we asked.
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  Speaker 1: We we put out a call for women and non
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  Speaker 1: binary folks in that space making amazing music, and you
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  Speaker 1: listeners have responded and I'm very very excited about these recommendations.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to check them out. Oh, I have
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  Speaker 1: one more for you from one of our Instagram followers
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  Speaker 1: slash listeners. Obviously, her name is Kelly at or at
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  Speaker 1: least that's our Instagram name, and I'm gonna say Tradester,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry if I just butchered your name. We
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  Speaker 1: love you. But they recommend that we do a diet
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  Speaker 1: sig for a girl pop punk band as well, So
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  Speaker 1: put that in your suggestion box. Oh, I am so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm legitimately very very excited to check these things out
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  Speaker 1: down um. And then we also have Katherine who wrote
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  Speaker 1: forgive me if you did mention it, and I spaced out,
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  Speaker 1: but Julia Kiski of Germany is the first woman to
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  Speaker 1: win individual gold in eventing, which we just figured out
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  Speaker 1: was an equestrian triathle lot apparently, So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's very cool. Despite frequently beating out the men in
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  Speaker 1: the annual f EI five star events, which are actually
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  Speaker 1: more difficult than the Olympics, only this year do we
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  Speaker 1: finally have a woman as the individual gold medalists. And no,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't know that, So thank you. That's incredible and
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  Speaker 1: congratulations to Germans that yes, that was one of the
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  Speaker 1: events when I was saying, like, when I was watching
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  Speaker 1: these Olympics this year, and the announcer would be like,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first time a woman is ever won
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  Speaker 1: a medal and a question is one? I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what really? Right? So, yeah, that's amazing and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for bringing that to our attention. Um, we have another
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  Speaker 1: email about the Olympics from Steph who wrote, really enjoyed
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  Speaker 1: your Olympic Wins for Women Part one episode. I have
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  Speaker 1: many feelings and opinions about the Olympics this year, which
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  Speaker 1: have made me less than enthusiastic about watching most events,
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  Speaker 1: but I followed the women's soccer events closely, as I'm
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of Canada's national team. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this got much press in the US, but their
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  Speaker 1: gold medal win made Quinn the first openly transperson to
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  Speaker 1: win an Olympic medal. Yea whate our major national news
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  Speaker 1: sources has a piece on win here, which I thought
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  Speaker 1: was pretty well done. I also had a good chuckle
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  Speaker 1: at Trump's expense, given that his quote woke means you
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  Speaker 1: lose was so proven wrong after their in My partner
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  Speaker 1: and I chanted woke wins. As a general observation, I
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  Speaker 1: can't be the only one who finds the IOCs non
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  Speaker 1: reaction to trans athletes are very confusing given their obsession
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  Speaker 1: with women's bodies in general. Right any who, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: the great work. I love how open you have been
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  Speaker 1: about your own growth, experience and opinion. Ps It goes
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  Speaker 1: without saying, but bronze is certainly a win, and any
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  Speaker 1: of the U S women's national soccer team athletes could
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  Speaker 1: run circles around Trump any day of the week. Thank you, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, and yes we did go on to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that in our Olympic Wins for Women Part two.
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  Speaker 1: But that is a huge achievement. And long overdo. And
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  Speaker 1: I love your reaction the partner, your partner, your reaction
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  Speaker 1: to it. Um that way, and congratulations to you, to
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  Speaker 1: Quinn and to you because that is very exciting. I know. Canada. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: even though there's a little bit of competition. Way to
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  Speaker 1: go Canada. Yes, we are proud. And then listener Lauren wrote,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I love the podcast. It is super informative, therapeutic,
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  Speaker 1: eye opening, and has changed my life in so many
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  Speaker 1: meaningful ways, especially your segment on bisexuality. I was closeted
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, and when I try to come
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  Speaker 1: out seven years ago, I was talking to an extended
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  Speaker 1: family member I was living with and close to at
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  Speaker 1: that time, and I had been experiencing physical and romantic
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  Speaker 1: attraction to women for years by that point, and decided
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  Speaker 1: to take the first step. They simply scoffed at me
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  Speaker 1: and said, quote, you're like college girl gay oh no um,
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  Speaker 1: and I can be super impressionable, especially around people I
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  Speaker 1: look up to, and that statement really stuck with me.
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  Speaker 1: I already didn't feel like my sexuality was legitimate, and
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  Speaker 1: while that conversation didn't stop me from further pursuing relationships
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  Speaker 1: with women, it certainly fueled my existing doubts and insecurities.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward to seventeen, when I first started dating the
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  Speaker 1: man who would become my husband. While I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: share that part of myself with him, I just couldn't
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: do it. Some days I felt like a fraud, and
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  Speaker 1: other days I would think, what's the point or the
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  Speaker 1: old standby? Was I just trying to feel special? Also,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to offend anyone either. It felt like
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  Speaker 1: claiming something while hiding behind hetero privilege. I resolved it
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  Speaker 1: was too late to come out. Then, in June of
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I saw Sminthy's newly released segments on bisexuality
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  Speaker 1: and gave them a listen. It was like waking up.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, whoa wait, and what am I doing? Why
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  Speaker 1: was I thinking about it the way that I was.
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  Speaker 1: Of Course, I'm bisexual. I love women, and I love
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  Speaker 1: being with them romantically and physically. Obviously, I'm bisexual and
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  Speaker 1: I'm engaged to a man. That's what that means. And
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  Speaker 1: so I summoned the courage and came out to my
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  Speaker 1: then fiance, and what happened next cemented our relationship for life.
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  Speaker 1: He thanked me for opening up to him, didn't judge me,
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  Speaker 1: and committed himself as an ally. There was no but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how many women have you even dated? Or but you're
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  Speaker 1: straight now right? No allusions to by phobia or by
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  Speaker 1: rature could be found, and no perverted propositions of threesoms
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  Speaker 1: that definitely would have been a dealbreaker, greed. I eventually
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  Speaker 1: decided to come out to my parents and sister, who
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  Speaker 1: met me with nothing but love and support. And so
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  Speaker 1: I've been slowly but gradually coming out, not because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I have to, but I want to. While
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  Speaker 1: my journey is far from over and it's not all sunshine, safety,
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  Speaker 1: positivity and openness, I'm far happier than I've ever been,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so glad I found your podcasts. And now
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  Speaker 1: for the second part of this email. Yeah, a second
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  Speaker 1: part which first you want to celebrate that first part,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations and that gives us all the fields. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: connected with so much of that, and I'm so happy,
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  Speaker 1: so happy we could be a part of this in
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  Speaker 1: any way. You've been largely it sounds like accepted by
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  Speaker 1: the people in your life. That's fantastic, And we're so
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  Speaker 1: sorry about your earlier experience and glad you've been met
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  Speaker 1: with so much love and support. You deserve that. Yes it, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: onto the second part. I have show recommendations and we
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  Speaker 1: love those. I'm here to recommend the show Good Omens,
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  Speaker 1: which you're not the first. So I'm excited to hear
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  Speaker 1: about this Good Omens to you if you haven't already
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  Speaker 1: seen it. It is a fantasy comedy created and written
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  Speaker 1: by Neil Gaiman, based on his and Terry Practice novel
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  Speaker 1: of the same name. It is a six episode mini
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  Speaker 1: series on Amazon Prime that starts Michael Sheen and David
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  Speaker 1: Tennant my love as the angel a zero Fell and
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  Speaker 1: the demon Crowley, who secretly worked together to stop the
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  Speaker 1: impending apocalypse. Now, it does have religious things to it,
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  Speaker 1: which can be off putting if you, like me, grew
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  Speaker 1: up religious, going to church and having negative associations with religion.
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  Speaker 1: But those religious elements are more related to world building
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  Speaker 1: and how a Zero Fell and Crowley exists within and
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  Speaker 1: react to that world. Plus, the show is light and humorous.
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  Speaker 1: I can't express my love for this show enough. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the main reason why. Firmed by Neil Gaiman, A
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  Speaker 1: Zero Fill and Crowley story was written with the beats
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  Speaker 1: of romans. Not only that, but I think it is
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  Speaker 1: the male male a sexual love story we've all been
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  Speaker 1: waiting for. So here's the Twitter quote that she included
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  Speaker 1: to thank you quote. I wouldn't exclude the idea that
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  Speaker 1: they are as or a romantic or trans. They are
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  Speaker 1: an angel and the demon, not as make humans. Per
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  Speaker 1: the book, a cult ethereal beings don't have sexes, something
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  Speaker 1: we try to reflect in the casting. Whatever Crowley and
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  Speaker 1: A zero Phil are, it's a love story. And that's
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  Speaker 1: from Neil Gaiman himself, So thank you for that. Um
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  Speaker 1: So for more background, angels and demons are sexless unless
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  Speaker 1: they make an effort Q characters with they then pronounced
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  Speaker 1: archangels traditionally male played by female actors. Adrogeny female actors
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  Speaker 1: playing demons who aren't at all sexualized, not even a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Crowley's ginger fluid energy and God is voiced
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  Speaker 1: by a woman, and the show never makes ginger presentation
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  Speaker 1: the butt of a joke. There's even a scene where
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  Speaker 1: the demon ally applies to be a nanny for the Antichrist,
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  Speaker 1: and in doing so, he caused plays as Mary Poppins,
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  Speaker 1: simply because, according to the book, Crowley loves that movie.
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  Speaker 1: David TenneT as Crowley in this amazing Mary Poppins inspired outfit,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not the butt of the jokes even once.
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  Speaker 1: The only joke in that bit is the lullaby he
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  Speaker 1: sings to the supposed Antichrist about going to sleep and
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  Speaker 1: dreaming of the day he will destroy and rule the world,
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  Speaker 1: and to talk that all off. The Angel and the
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  Speaker 1: Demon don't declare their love for each other through physical
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  Speaker 1: acts of love or even in a cinematic kiss, but
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  Speaker 1: through their words, spending qualities time with each other e g.
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  Speaker 1: Romantic mills with champagne, toasts at the Ritz, and acts
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  Speaker 1: of service. Anyway, I really like for you both to
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  Speaker 1: watch and let me know what you think, maybe even
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: do an episode on it. I'm really curious to see
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: the show from a fresh perspective. I painted a pretty picture,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: but the show still has flaws. While Neil confirms that
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  Speaker 1: avoiding transphobia altogether and giving up you to the gender
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  Speaker 1: binary when Apple Coble was what they were going for,
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  Speaker 1: they may not have always achieved it. Also, Crowley's cosplay
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  Speaker 1: as Mary Poppins did unfortunately see some backlash as some
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  Speaker 1: did interpret it as transphobic. She asked, am I blinded
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  Speaker 1: about my love for DT Neil? Maybe? Either way, it's
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  Speaker 1: really entertaining watch and it was even how I got
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  Speaker 1: into fan fiction. Annie. So many fan fiction and the fandom.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is so nice and the enthusiasms reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: super Who Luck two point oh, without the queer baiting,
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  Speaker 1: or at least i'd like to think so. So I'm
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: guessing super who Lock is Supernatural Doctor Who Charlock. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I did it. Thank you, so proud of you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy, Lauren that this space has been welcoming
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  Speaker 1: to you in terms of the fandom and writing fan
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  Speaker 1: fiction or reading fan fiction and also welcome. And I'm
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: sorry because I just introduced a friend of fan fiction
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  Speaker 1: and she's very grant me, but also very happy because
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't sue your world. But yes, I love this show.
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  Speaker 1: I have not seen it yet. I really recommend it.
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  Speaker 1: I want to watch it after reading this email again
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  Speaker 1: because I think I just watched it without my feminist
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  Speaker 1: lens on. But I think a lot of times when
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I do like something, it is because it has those elements,
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  Speaker 1: It has those things of like, oh wow, there is
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  Speaker 1: this really close relationship and it's not sexual, but it
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  Speaker 1: does have this feeling of like being romantic, of being
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  Speaker 1: really committed, which is something I've been thinking about a
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  Speaker 1: lot lately. This is this idea of like being committed
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  Speaker 1: without the sexual part, but like just finding those people
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: that are your people. Did they sign up for a
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: new season? I thought that was happening. I think so, Yes,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: I believe there will be another one. Also, Yeah, I
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: did really enjoy the book, but you definitely we should.
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  Speaker 1: We should watch it, do an episode on it. I
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: need to watch it. I'll put it on my list
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  Speaker 1: any new things anyway, Just as long as it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make me cry or feel bad about the world, I'm
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: gonna feel bad about the world. No, I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind destroying the world, just bad about it.
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  Speaker 1: Are there dogs that are going to be marred? Lord?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember, and that hopefully there isn't one. And
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  Speaker 1: then you'll be like you will bring you and Lauren
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  Speaker 1: and cry about it for a day. I tell that's true.
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  Speaker 1: It's very stylistic, it's very like the design is really cool,
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  Speaker 1: I think, and you and I have talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: I think as people who did grow up religious and
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  Speaker 1: for some reason, I do gravitate a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: towards religious horror. It's definitely not a horror show at all,
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  Speaker 1: but like I do find myself like I just know
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. I know the Bible and I know these stories,
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  Speaker 1: so I will say names like a Zara Phil as
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  Speaker 1: well as Crowley is not in my realm of Bible studies.
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  Speaker 1: So probably I mean that's like a demon. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean you've got you've got the finbe Yes, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for that message and for sharing your experience
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  Speaker 1: coming out. Um, it's just very very beautiful, and yes,
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  Speaker 1: we should watch the show, and yes, added to our list. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So I want to include this next one because and
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: it actually kind of relates to what we just read.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: We're about to do an upcoming book club on the
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: book Ace by Angela Chin, and so some of the
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: stuff we're touching on we're going to touch on in
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: that episode, including this, which is kind of fictional representation
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  Speaker 1: of Ace people. So Brandy wrote, I want to thank
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: you for your happy hour on sexuality. I'm writing in
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: to give Annie some validation. I've identified as arrow A
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: since I was twenty four and thirty five now and
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: It has been a long road of self doubt and
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: fear and jealousy and disbelief that I could to ever
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  Speaker 1: have a happy life without a partner. But there has
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: been so much joy too, and that's where I have
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: to remember. I'm already living that happy life, finding a
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: community online, coming out to real life friends who have
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  Speaker 1: validated and uplifted me, going to Pride and waving my
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  Speaker 1: ACE flag with a big smile on my face, getting
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: so excited any time a public person or character comes
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  Speaker 1: out as ACE. Feeling smuggling. I don't have to deal
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  Speaker 1: with terrible boyfriend's relationship drama, so I want to share
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: that whatever you're going through, I probably thought it and
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  Speaker 1: felt it to you, and I see you. I'm proud
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  Speaker 1: of you. Thank you. You don't have to have any
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: answers right now. It's scary, but I feel like we'll
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: never regret being true to ourselves, even if we don't
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: have the exact words for who we are, are what
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: we want. I found Bella Depolo's site very helpful and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: not feeling alone. She's not ACE, but she is happily single,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: and I've leaned on her wisdom so much over the years.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: You should check out her work if you haven't yet,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: bella depolo dot com. I've also found solace in pop
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  Speaker 1: culture where I can. There's a new wish book called
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Loveless by Alice Osman that made me feel so represented
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  Speaker 1: and seen. Should definitely pick that up if you haven't yet.
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  Speaker 1: I keep a list of characters who seem ace to me,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and Luke Scott Walker is at the top of that list.
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  Speaker 1: In New Hope, he seems more in awe of Leia
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  Speaker 1: than anything else and Empire, his reaction to her kissing
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  Speaker 1: him was less excitement attraction than satisfaction that he was
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  Speaker 1: getting attention over Han, who was clearly bothered by it.
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  Speaker 1: I think Luke's smirk was more about Luke knowing Han
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  Speaker 1: like Leiah than liking her himself. When he found out
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  Speaker 1: she was a sister. He wasn't disgusted or ashamed that
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  Speaker 1: he'd been attracted to her. He just looked like he thought,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I like her so much. We're a family.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Mary Poppins is also very obviously ace. Watched that jolly
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: holiday scene with Burr and tell me she has anything
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  Speaker 1: but platonic feelings or him. He makes a move and
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: she gently rebuffs him. Then he teases her later by
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  Speaker 1: naming all of his gal pals and she acts offended.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: It is most definitely two friends joking around. She's Ace
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: in the sequel to There's Elsa from Frozen Movies. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all for hashtag give Elsa a girlfriend, but they didn't,
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  Speaker 1: so we get to keep Ace Elsa. Mark Wattney from
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  Speaker 1: The Martian not to hint of romance in his life,
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  Speaker 1: but great friendships and most of the Hobbits from More
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  Speaker 1: of the Rings, marriage doesn't seem important in their culture.
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  Speaker 1: Claire from Jurassic World, I think she's hetero romantic Ace,
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  Speaker 1: ari Adne from Inception. She could not have been less
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  Speaker 1: interested in Arthur's kiss, and Crowley and Zero Fell from
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  Speaker 1: Good Omens pretty much confirmed by Neil Gaiman, although he
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  Speaker 1: accepts all ahead canon. And my favorite Joe from Little Women,
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  Speaker 1: who cannot be bothered with men and wants to stay
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  Speaker 1: with her family forever. And Luisa may Alcott only married
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: her off because she cave to her publisher's pressure. I
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  Speaker 1: I think writers try to include characters who aren't interested
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