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#138 - Kemal of SUPRLIFE Studio: Custom Car Styling · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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Malcolm, you're good. OK, well, welcome everybody to
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the Faction After Hours podcast. We're here to bring another
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episode while Malcolm just randomly said it's good to
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start. I'm doing that now.
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He's just like, all right, you're good.
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And now we're awkwardly just sitting here.
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We're like already talking. And then he's like, Oh yeah,
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you've been recording. We're here to bring you another
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guest. We got super life K, one of my
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favorite people to have on the podcast.
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Welcome. Oh.
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Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Just because you got a you, you, you like engage in a
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conversation where you really get your point across.
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And I like that, you know? Thank you man.
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I mean, I try. I mean, I like having
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conversations, especially when it's things I enjoy talking
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about, yeah. Yeah, also Carls been getting
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into some body work so. Dude, I was going to say so
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aside from that. I'm sorry to hear.
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Man. No, no.
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Aside from that podcast, like we got to talk about a lot about
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you. If you haven't listened to that
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podcast with K earlier on, I'm talking like early, I don't
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maybe episode 30. Yeah, Malcolm, if you could find
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out what number I. Don't know what episode that was
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but that was a long time ago it. Was way back.
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It had to have been at at least two years.
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Dude, yeah, at least two years. And since then from that pod, it
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grew into I talked to Josh Roloff's too and just doing side
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work. And then I met my one of my
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closest friends now Diego, who does paint.
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I think I mentioned him earlier, the whole glass mishap.
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I think Gordino Emperor Uno oh. No, no, not from around.
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He's from Georgia. No, I thought it would have been
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someone I. Know.
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No, no, no. But thanks to that pod, I delved
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into it like I painted seven cars.
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Episode 33. Yeah.
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Painted seven cars. Entire cars.
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Yeah, seven cars last year and then like a bunch of kits in
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between. Wow.
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And they're not, you know, it's not like crazy special, but
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remember there was one message that POD delivered to me and it
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was like, just go out and fucking try it.
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Just do. It.
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Yeah, yeah. Just do it.
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So I literally just started doing.
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It If you wait to be perfect, you're never gonna start.
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You're never gonna. Start.
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That is the most. Important.
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I'm just so, I don't wanna sound like I'm bitching or whatever,
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but I'm just so tired of being around people that keep saying
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they're gonna do something and just never start.
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I rather you do it and it come out OK rather than just not
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doing it at all. Yeah.
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And I mean, that's just the best way you learn is just do it.
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Just go out and do. It dude, no for real, it's good
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shit. That that was.
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Going that was from our pod dude.
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Like it was, right. It was.
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I did say that, yeah. Yeah, nice man from I'm Glad two
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years ago. To now I have learned so much at
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random bullshit along the way of like just how to be around body
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stuff. Not that you know, obviously
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there's a whole encyclopedia of shit to know, but just little
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things. Like I remember you said like if
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you heard somebody sanding, you could probably tell that that
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person is sanding it wrong. I could tell.
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Right away I. Could just hear it right away
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and I, I didn't know what that meant until I was sanding and I
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was like, this is coming out kind of like shit.
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And then when you sand it. There's this.
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Feeling sound that it makes and you're like, yeah, that's good
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to say. People just when you say sand,
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it's just people think it's to get from point A to point B it
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needs to be sanded. Okay, but what makes you
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experience is knowing when to stop is knowing how to start,
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when to start, where to start. Like there's so many ways to go
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about it. It's not just getting there.
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There's no finished. And sometimes you can just start
11:13
to say anything like OK, I think it's good and it's good.
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It goes up, it goes up and you get to a point where it's
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perfect and if you keep going, it starts going down again and.
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And. And then you got to go back.
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You got to put some more shit on or just do steps over again.
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You're just taking steps back. This.
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Is giving me like PTSD when I would have to like do body work
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on my car. No, but.
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Because now I understand what you're saying.
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Yes, there's. There is such thing as too much
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and that's where the art aspect comes in because it's not.
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And I'm not putting down any, any other aspect of the car
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world when it comes to to installing a manifold or
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whatever. But when you install a manifold,
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you install the manifold, you just tighten it up and whatever
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you just go on, it's done. There's a right way to do it.
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But when it comes to sanding or whatever it may be, there's a
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certain there's a finesse to it where the experience is, OK, I
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have to stop here because I need to get to here and I need, I
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need to do this. And that comes with time that
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comes with constantly doing it. I remember being an apprentice
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and sanding, sanding, sanding, sanding.
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And my mentor at the time, John, I'll be like, I'm done.
12:16
He would come. He would feel it.
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Yeah, he touches. It he would, he would just touch
12:18
it. He's like, he's like, oh God,
12:20
this feels like shit. God, I'm like, what?
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I'm like, what? I put all my effort and time
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into this. This is wild.
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And he would just coat the whole hood over again.
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He'd be like, do it again. I'm like, what did I do wrong?
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What did he feel that I didn't feel?
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So obviously, not only did I learn how to do it better, but I
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also learned how to spot where I where was wrong, why he spotted
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those things and I couldn't spot them how he was going to search
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for them. So those things again, they come
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with time. He can't teach me.
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Oh, feel this a different way. That comes with time, that comes
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with knowing what the results are from doing this process.
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Dude, you know, what I also noticed is that sometimes, or
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what I do like about body work is that for the most part, so
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your system is going to be different than Joe Schmo's
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system over there and Smojo over there.
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They're all different. You just.
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You just. Everybody, everybody is like
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kind of just making their own system.
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So I kind of like that. I love that just because you you
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let's say you taught me something that maybe that
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podcast 1 like sanding don't like this.
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Use the side of your fingers so that it's like it's not a block,
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but it's better than going like this because then you see your
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hands. Certain things are better than
13:37
other. Yeah, OK.
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But like little things like that, it's like, OK, how can I
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take that, make it work for my what I do in my everyday real
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quick, just little mental notes that people drop on you
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sometimes when having a conversation.
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There's, there's so many different ways to get there and
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I love that part about it. Love it because it's so cool,
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Because it's like, I don't know, like when I teach people, not
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that I teach people, but whenever people have worked for
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me the way I teach them, I put so much emphasis on this is not
14:09
the right way. Not that it's the wrong way, but
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this is my way. And there are so many things I
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did a year ago, two years ago, five years ago that I don't do
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now. Oh my God, that is because.
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I'm just constantly changing my ways.
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And, you know, people assume that when they're watching you
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now that you're the best now. Like, brother, no, I'm still
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trying. I'm still trying my best.
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I'm still getting better. So those processes, the many
14:33
ways to get there, they're always being changed.
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They always should be changed because you're never perfect.
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You're never the master you're trying to be.
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You're trying to get there and acquire that.
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But the process always changes. And that part is beautiful.
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I love that aspect of it. At the same time, it causes a
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lot of argument because let's say someone who knows what
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they're doing can come in to my studio and they could look
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around and they could be like, dude, you're a hack.
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Brother, you suck. Because it just might not be
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this process. Yeah, just.
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But like, see, that's where the argument is.
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Like if I saw someone else's process, I'm not going to come
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in and call you hack. I would have 10 years ago
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because I didn't understand it yet.
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Now I won't because I'm like, all right, dude.
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Like, the end results speak for themselves.
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You're not always going to stand next to your finished work.
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You need the finished work to speak for itself and that alone.
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Like I just like it is what? It is.
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That's how body work is though, yeah, Because there's so many
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ways to do something. So many different.
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Ways so one person could watch some video of someone standing
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something whatever, using bondo, whatever it is and then they'll
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see you do something else and they'll be like oh, but that's
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not the way you. Yeah.
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Oh, that's. Wrong.
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Oh, this one. Is you're you're an idiot, dude.
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I'm not. Yeah, we deal with the same
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stuff here with people like watching the how to install
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video. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then they'll see us and they'll be, oh, but yeah, if you
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guys did it this way, I think. And it's like, OK.
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And yeah. Isn't that the worst one?
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You guys want someone else? End results speaks.
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End results. Yeah.
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Speak for themselves. Yeah.
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Being undeniable. That's it being undeniable for
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your process to be like when they see it, they're like,
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obviously it works, it looks good.
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So I mean, I mean, you can't say shit.
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Be undeniable. Be undeniable is the being
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undeniable is the word of it. Am I too laid back?
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Right now I want to no, I want to push good, right?
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I want to push you a little bit that way.
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Frank, you said you're getting too close to night.
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Yeah, yeah. Am I too like?
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I'm sorry I never sit up straight in chairs, man.
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That's fine. It's because you know why you're
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fucking spending all day like this.
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I am. I'm always like a permanent
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hunchback. No, I'll tell you what it was.
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Because when you look at him and now you look at me, you're going
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to be on the mic still. Before it was like this.
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It would be like you'd look at him.
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You're on the mic. And then I'm like.
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You're off the Yeah, that's the only thing I'm trying to fix.
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Yeah, no, everything else is good.
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You know what I do like though? The the double edged sword.
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That is the beautiful, beautiful thing of the Internet, right?
17:00
It's great, but it's also not great.
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Is Facebook groups, old custom painter Facebook groups, right?
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It's my favorite thing to look at, the comments, the comments.
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Actually the comments, OK. Most of the time it's just some
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guy who's going. It's my first time doing flames.
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The job is absolutely perfect. I'm like, all right, go fuck
17:16
yourself. Yeah.
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And go look at the comments. It's a lot of older generation
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painters because it's Facebook. Yeah, yeah, arguing.
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Are you crazy? You're horrible.
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Why would you apply the filler there?
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Or you should have used this, this product in that?
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And then it's a funky word, what I what I get to do or what I
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like to do. I don't know if this is what
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anybody else out there is doing, but I'll like, since I get to
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observe it from such a macro level, I try to see what it is
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that they're arguing about what issue it is in that video.
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And then I'm like, oh, OK, I could just negate that by doing
17:52
it like this and applying my own little sprinkle to it.
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And I'm like my work, might not try it out.
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You can still take something positive from it because the
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intense when you read it, obviously there's gonna be some
18:06
arguments and and all that shit. But I mean the point is like, if
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you think about it, the guys are just trying to do a better job.
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They're how all it comes down to.
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Is they want to help them, they. They they really just want to
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help. It might be a horrible way to do
18:19
it. It might be very mean, but in
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the end they're they're really trying to help.
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So I'm I'm not on those pages because it's, it's a little bit
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toxic. Yeah, it is.
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No, no. But when it does pop up, I'm not
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going to lie, I've learned certain things.
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Maybe it's not things that I apply, it might be big, but
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certain tips, certain things that might happen, certain steps
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I always take, little things like I'm always open to.
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Learn always. Here's an example of like a tip
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that I found the other day for small pieces, you know, like
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those. It's like a roll of like fucking
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like maybe half an inch thick metal with like holes in it.
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Just a big roll of it comes out and this guy was like, I was
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painting mirror motorcycle fairings the other day.
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I need to make a stand. I keep A roll of this stuff on
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me. It's pretty cheap.
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Make stands out of it. Put it to put on the stand, so
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it's not. Teetering.
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You can make the brace, cut it to size, bend it.
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It's pretty. It holds a holds a structure.
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I love those tips. I was like hell yeah.
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Mental note. Like fucking.
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Yeah, I love those notes. I, I save all that because those
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things like the way that guy learned, however he learned his
19:24
process and this applies to anything.
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He learned it, however the hell he learned it, it took him X
19:29
amount of years. He just taught you this thing
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that that it took him years to learn in 10 seconds.
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That's for sure. That applies to people you
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teach. That applies to your apprentice,
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to you being an apprentice to whatever.
19:41
Like if you think about it and this guy that you know you want
19:44
to learn from, he's teaching you everything in just seconds.
19:47
So those little tips are amazing.
19:49
Like they're putting gold out there.
19:51
They're gold. It's a good.
19:52
Thing you're in that group. And I don't like that.
19:54
I mean I don't like when people gate keep like info because
19:58
sharing this kind of stuff tips is imperative for my craft to.
20:06
To keep. Going because it's just it's
20:08
getting less and less and less people.
20:10
I don't know if it's because it's a hard job.
20:13
I don't know it's if it's because for whatever reason, but
20:16
there's less people doing it. So people need to continue on
20:20
and, you know, share that that stuff, especially in an age
20:22
where it's easy to share info 100% because it's really is a
20:27
dying art. I.
20:28
Don't know why it. I was just going to ask, yeah.
20:31
So there's like a there's another.
20:33
I'm friends with a younger guy. He made eyelids for the IS300.
20:39
In like in like fiberglasses. Fiberglass he but he did it not
20:43
the way I did. I just make one off parts.
20:45
If I want to make something, I lay some HVAC tape, tinfoil,
20:49
whatever plastic wrap just. Sand just so it doesn't stick.
20:52
Make it the fiberglass you pop it off.
20:53
But it's just for me, with no intent of reproduction.
20:56
This guy was, in my opinion, a kid when I was first talking to
21:00
him. Jack Dunlap and then made molds,
21:04
produced them, and I was like what the actual fuck?
21:08
Dude. Like that right there is
21:09
somebody who is, I mean, in a sample size so large, there's
21:13
like a one guy, I hate to pump his head up Jack, fuck you, but
21:18
but it's always the same complaint.
21:22
It's always like it's messy. It's it really?
21:26
Is but it's. You know it's.
21:27
Shitty. It really is shitty.
21:28
It's messy. There's a lot of things that are
21:31
not good for you as far as when you're working breathing shit
21:34
in, but whatever it is, things take time.
21:38
It's a really grueling like process and the money isn't
21:42
amazing for selling these parts. When you consider how much time
21:46
you're putting into each one, it makes sense why people charge so
21:49
much for body. Kits when?
21:51
I guarantee you if someone works on fiberglass shit on their own
21:55
and they try to make something they're going to complete,
21:57
they're going to understand why people charge what they charge
21:59
dude for the fiberglass shit. Fibers all over your hands.
22:03
You try to get them off in the shower.
22:04
You get out of the shower, there's still fiberglass stuck
22:07
to your. The fingers.
22:08
You're like, OK, I'm going to go.
22:09
Back in here to get these off it's not a fun time, but it's.
22:13
I like it because it's rewarding you.
22:15
You. You make something at the end,
22:17
you get to look at it. You hold it, you're touching it.
22:20
It exists. It's real.
22:22
You've. Created something, I mean
22:24
awesome. That's why I got so into this at
22:27
the start. This craft was it was the most
22:32
it was the most rewarding of feelings When I got something
22:36
done and I made something, it was just ended.
22:41
Not only did I make something, I made something that makes
22:44
something look better. The car makes it look better
22:47
when I'm making something exterior piece.
22:49
So it was really a good feeling to do.
22:53
And I'm like people would ask, they're like, oh, I really like
22:56
this bumper. I like this rear bumper or the
22:58
sides go to the wing, whatever the hell.
23:00
And then they would ask. They're like, oh, where'd you
23:01
get this from? And I'm like.
23:03
I made it. I made it.
23:04
I. Made it.
23:08
They're like, what, How'd you make this?
23:09
I'm like, you know, ain't no big deal.
23:11
But like it was it's it's like a shallow feeling to feel good
23:17
about it because you're like, yeah, I made it, but it is a
23:20
good feeling. I know you made this shit.
23:23
And as time goes on, when the shit you're making becomes
23:27
better and better, you start to impress yourself.
23:30
Like like I was never really big into making molds and all that
23:34
stuff again. I I also like making stuff that
23:36
are like one off specific for the customer.
23:38
Just 'cause you like it, it's. Just my yeah.
23:40
And like never really. I never had a goal of being mass
23:44
market. Type thing.
23:46
I don't really care about making many things and then selling it
23:49
to many cars. I have limited runs of things
23:51
but but like never permanent. I'm with that.
23:53
It was just the specialness and I.
23:55
I like the special part of it. Financially, it's not a good
23:58
move for me. Let me just like of course damn
24:02
on my money real quick. I'm going to put a cap on it
24:04
just because it's cool, but it is what it is.
24:07
You. Know.
24:10
But. Making it is like I don't know
24:14
when it's one off, especially when it's for the customer.
24:17
Like sometimes I make things for customers and it's one off
24:21
pieces and thankfully sometimes they look real good and it feels
24:26
good when a possible customer, he reaches out and he's like,
24:30
hey, I want that. And I'm like sorry dude.
24:33
Like that was one off for this guy.
24:36
And usually one day inquire about that.
24:38
I take that screenshot and I send it to the guy that I made
24:41
the shit for. I'm like, look at this.
24:42
I'm like people are asking for it and like it feels good for
24:45
the customers and to knowing I'm the only person with this piece
24:50
or this accessory piece, whatever it may be.
24:53
The customer themselves feel good because I know I would feel
24:57
good if someone I took my car to and I respect his work and his
25:01
opinion and he made something for my car and it's a one off
25:04
piece. I would really like that.
25:06
You know, that's that's everything we're doing.
25:10
You want to be kind of original. And you and it, it's kind of
25:14
speaks waves when somebody's proud of something.
25:17
Yeah, yeah. It's like that thing is up to
25:21
their standard of like, but you, you, you've achieved my like
25:27
you, you achieved my liking like.
25:28
I like that item enough for me to call it something that I
25:32
made. Yeah, yeah.
25:33
Yeah, and then like with making one off things too that I like
25:36
now that, you know, it's less scary because I took that try.
25:42
I've failed that try. I tried again.
25:46
Now when I get to walk around sometimes you go to a car show
25:49
where where like things that aren't even in your Ave. right,
25:53
Like I think there was AFRS here last week, totally new car,
25:57
different body style. I have the IS Oh, you're talking
25:59
about. That you're talking about that
26:00
new Gen. FRS?
26:02
It doesn't. It doesn't even matter I'm I'm
26:03
just using it as a It's a ZN 6 so like.
26:06
O 2010 OK, OK, look at that body.
26:07
OK, Yeah. This guy came in here.
26:10
I'm so sorry, I forgot your name, but he was a fashion
26:12
customer and he had these little, they were little stick
26:17
on things on the hips of the car.
26:21
They were just little things that accentuated the body line.
26:25
And I'm looking at it for like 5 minutes or so and I'm thinking
26:28
about how my car has a body line like that.
26:31
So I took a picture of it. And then I went back.
26:34
To my, I'm like one day if I can like make something here that
26:39
can come up like that or shape it that way and then I got to go
26:43
make it for the other side, which you've also highlighted.
26:46
That is one of quite possibly the harder phase than making it.
26:51
Yeah, yes, it's, it's making the second one.
26:54
Making it is always the worst. Whenever I used to make flares
26:58
or whatever, anything that involves 2, whether it be
27:00
thunders, side skirts, whatever it may be, when you're making
27:03
two of them, it sucks. It sucks.
27:05
And of course, now there's ways around it.
27:08
When? You.
27:09
Could you could use CAD to make things and then you print it.
27:12
You 3D printed, you use that to make the mold whatever using
27:15
that stuff. No, I do I wish.
27:17
I knew how. Forbid dude.
27:19
God forbid. No, no, no, I don't.
27:21
I don't like that stuff. Not that I'm talking down on it.
27:25
I'm not like how we were just talking.
27:27
Everyone has their own way of doing things.
27:28
I'm not not talking down on it. It's it's the future.
27:32
I think we spoke about this the last time.
27:34
It is the future, but I'm a little bit old school when it
27:37
comes to that shit. I like everything handmade.
27:40
If that means that one side is not going to be completely on,
27:46
it's going to be 99% compared to the other side because it's man
27:50
made, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with the results
27:54
knowing everything was handmade. I like that.
27:58
I like handmade shit. So because I like it, I'm going
28:02
to do it the way I want to do it, and I might end up being the
28:09
only one that's doing it down the line because everyone is
28:12
turning to that. Yeah.
28:13
But again, I'm fine with that. I.
28:15
Was worried you're going to go so I started using no no.
28:21
No, no, no, no. No, no, you bite your tongue.
28:24
No, no. No dude, 'cause I don't know.
28:26
I I'm, I'm not the greatest with technology, but I'm also not the
28:28
worst. Like I can.
28:30
I know what's around me and what probably the capability of the
28:34
tools around me. Are.
28:36
Like that. Like, let's say you fucking scan
28:39
that and it says you're off by a millimetre on, on this one
28:43
angle. Yeah, yeah, easy peasy.
28:46
But then it like, it like takes away the, the skill factor that
28:53
differ, that differentiates some humans from other humans.
28:57
You know what I mean? Dude?
28:57
That's this person worked mad hard to get to where they were.
29:01
And now the software takes away from that and it makes it.
29:04
It levels it out, which is great.
29:06
In turn, I don't. Know look, when you use that
29:08
shit, I'm not saying now now everyone can do it.
29:12
No, not every because it still requires skill to get the
29:14
programs running and all that shit fine.
29:16
But it's more of, I don't know, it's, I guess it's more
29:22
accessible I guess because more people can do it because it
29:27
doesn't require something to be made by hand.
29:29
Something can be printed. I've literally I've seen 3D
29:34
printed things then being used as a plug to make a mold and to
29:38
do all that stuff and it comes out perfect.
29:40
That's kind of. Perfect.
29:42
Fine. Cool.
29:42
No cool. You're using it to support.
29:45
Cool, fine. Amazing.
29:47
I'm not doing it. Amazing.
29:50
I got my headlight and Vaseline. I'm gonna keep doing it.
29:54
I got my ways and it works and as long as I can get to my end
30:01
result, my goal, which is what I'm seeing, if I could get there
30:04
and my skills allow me to get there, I'm good.
30:08
I'm good, I'm happy. Yeah, there's so far I haven't
30:11
hit a roadblock yet where I'm trying to build something where
30:15
I envision and I'm like, shit, I can't do this because I'm not
30:19
skilled enough to do it and I need now to do this.
30:21
Thankfully I'm good. So I'll alter it a little bit.
30:24
But to completely abandoned my roots of doing it by hand and to
30:28
go to now the help of computers and machines?
30:31
Oh, no. Absolutely.
30:32
Not yeah, I don't think it's. I absolutely love not not I'll,
30:36
I'll be such a hypocrite. It's just I like, I like working
30:39
with with my hands. It's fun.
30:41
I've always been doing it since I was very young.
30:44
I was forced to work very early by my dad, very early, too early
30:48
by my dad. So I was I was always working
30:51
with my hands. So to feel like now I'm gonna
30:54
sit at a desk and design something is so contradictory to
30:58
what I'm used to my goal. So no, no computers and all
31:04
that. I'm gonna stick away.
31:05
When is AI gonna start painting cars?
31:07
I don't do it. I saw already, it was so weird.
31:10
I was, I, I always use this thing where people say AI is
31:15
calling for everybody's jobs. I'm like.
31:17
Yeah. AI can't fucking.
31:19
Piss the car AI. Can't do that?
31:20
It does. And then I see this video.
31:23
See the video. Yeah, I see this video.
31:25
It's at a convention, I don't know, some kind of convention
31:27
for car shit, whatever. And it's this, it's this arms,
31:30
robot arm. That's the video I see and it's.
31:32
Just painting. It's painting now.
31:35
Sure, it can probably do basic standard jobs.
31:39
It's not going to be able to do advanced shit yet.
31:43
It's going to get there eventually.
31:44
But what if paint can sometimes do something different?
31:49
What happens if they're spraying whereas me as a painter, if I
31:52
see the even hear it or like you can kind of see it or feel it.
31:59
I don't even fucking know differential pressure.
32:02
The the gun is starting, the tip is starting to and then I'm like
32:06
what the fuck is happening? Like a.
32:08
Computer know that. How can the computer?
32:11
Again I sound like a primitive thing.
32:12
How can the computer know? The computer is going to know it
32:15
knows, but how it addresses the problems and how it fixes it
32:19
without having a person there to service and constantly address
32:22
the errors that I don't know. I don't know.
32:24
But like when I'm working though, I need to change it.
32:26
Like when I'm spraying like some, I'm constantly adjusting
32:31
the gun for whatever I need to do.
32:33
And when I work, like when I'm spraying, I like I don't have a
32:36
gauge on on my gun. I just go by sound.
32:40
So like I know what it's supposed to sound like based on
32:43
what I'm doing. Like yeah, this is all the
32:45
gauges are professional. Like this is wild.
32:47
I just go by it sounds right. It's good.
32:50
I mean, it's good. The ones that paint cars in the
32:52
factories are probably fucking nuts though.
32:55
But if if you realize though, it's.
32:59
Dipped or some shit. It's not, no, it's.
33:01
Painted, but it's not good it. Comes out like ass sometimes.
33:05
You realize, yeah, on modern cars, the paint is very texture.
33:10
It's very peely, super duper not great.
33:12
There's also a lot of paint that doesn't, it doesn't stick well.
33:17
It there's like some kind of adhesion problems on those
33:20
pickups and all that? Hyundai's got a bad problem.
33:23
With it, yeah, yeah, I know there's a lot of issues with the
33:25
newer cars. I know they're sprayed, but when
33:28
those are sprayed, those are sprayed like bare shell type
33:31
shit. You know, the panels are on and
33:33
they're spraying this AI bot spraying thing.
33:36
This was like, it was like fixing a door.
33:38
It was like spraying like a door.
33:39
Something that you could buy potentially.
33:41
It's nuts. And I'm sure that those body
33:43
shops that are making millions of dollars a month with all
33:46
those shots, like they're gonna get that there's there's no way
33:50
around, they're gonna get that equipment.
33:52
OK, but what about prepping? How the hell is nothing?
33:56
Going on. Man, how the hell is?
33:58
That the next layer how is? It going to do that you're
34:01
sanding something. You can hear if it's sanding or
34:03
a sanding is something as. We never saw Terminator 2.
34:05
That's the problem. As we just went over in the
34:07
beginning, sanding is something that's pretty subjective.
34:12
Yeah, right. Like it's situational.
34:15
How is the machine going to do that?
34:16
You need AI before the machine. And how's it going to touch it?
34:19
How's it going to? But now AI is a real thing.
34:21
It knows, dude. It knows it'll do it, dude.
34:24
But back to the. Well, not back to the but AI,
34:29
let's just say that bot spring, right?
34:32
Like I always say, half of it is maybe not half maybe says maybe
34:38
75% of it is the actual skill. OK, 25% of it is making choices.
34:45
Now those choices are opinions based on how the car is being
34:48
built, OK, to me, computer and AI, it can't make those opinions
34:53
about what's going to look good and what's not.
34:56
I just think that is going to be the strongest suit is the ideal
35:01
creative mind on what's apply, how to apply it.
35:04
So I think the ideas and the input on the build are going to
35:08
be where people shine as far as they are even.
35:14
Though it but what if they can do that one day that's.
35:16
Terrifying. I'm going to be probably.
35:18
Will. It probably will.
35:20
That's that's what. I'm thinking I'm like it
35:21
probably will be able to do that one day, I don't know when.
35:25
It might, but for some reason I just feel like like, look, I'm,
35:30
I'm pretty confident in my creative ability to make choices
35:35
for it to I, I don't know, to maybe be better than other
35:41
people. Like I'm trying to sound, I'm
35:43
trying to sound modest about it. Look like we all have opinions
35:47
on cars. We all do, right?
35:49
I get paid for mine. OK, there's a difference.
35:52
My opinion goes a little bit farther than the average person
35:56
does. So the average person might be
35:58
just a computer that when it's it's AI, takes general
36:02
information about what's right. What I do might not be general
36:06
information about what's to be done.
36:09
It might be unconventional, it might be whatever.
36:12
So my opinion I think is gonna be the cutting edge for the
36:15
future. I get what you're saying with
36:16
that, and I do agree I don't think that AI will be able to.
36:21
It might be able to be its own individual.
36:23
General information. But it's.
36:24
Just general information, that's really.
36:26
All it is, it is right now. It's general inflation.
36:28
It's Google on stereos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:30
So I mean to be able to take it one step farther and know, know
36:34
what's right. Like when I do full overall
36:37
builds, like I have something on my invoice that says I have the
36:41
right to stop the job at any time for any creative choices
36:46
that I don't agree with. That's smart.
36:48
And it, it just has to, because I have to have input on
36:52
everything going on in this build.
36:53
If it's a full overall build, 'cause my name is on it and
36:57
that's why they're coming to me, because they want me doing the
37:00
car. So if it's me doing the car, me
37:01
doing the input, I need to make those choices.
37:05
So those opinions and those choices kind of separate from
37:09
other people, whether it be other people doing the same work
37:12
or computers trying to make cars look good.
37:15
You know. You don't have to name names,
37:16
but have you done that before where you had to stop?
37:18
Of course. I was going to say.
37:20
That there. For a reason.
37:21
There was one, I'm trying to explain the story without outing
37:25
the customer, but it happened many times.
37:28
But there was this one time I was doing the car.
37:29
I'm not even going to say the car.
37:31
So there was one time I was doing this car and he said I
37:34
want flares like on all four sides.
37:36
Like I want all the metal work, I want the whole 9, I want to do
37:39
whatever. And I was like, yeah, sure.
37:41
Absolutely. So worked out a time, worked out
37:44
a budget, worked out a deal, everything fine.
37:46
And the way I like to do things as far as bills, I don't like to
37:49
take a lot of of a cash upfront. I don't like to take, I like to
37:52
take a small, small amount upfront because I feel like if
37:57
if you give me too much now you kind of you.
38:00
Have the power. On me.
38:02
How's my car doing? How's my car doing?
38:03
How's my card? We do the same thing.
38:05
No dude, no dude take a small amount so we're we're always
38:08
good or even. So I was like Nah man, I don't
38:10
want much. He said no, no I want to put
38:11
down something. I said no, no, no it's fine,
38:13
it's fine. Thankfully he said no, just take
38:16
this. I said OK, fine, I'll take it.
38:18
I again, I usually don't like to, so I start the car and I
38:22
said, OK, let me start on the front end first because when
38:24
you're doing flares on the front end, it's not permanent to the
38:27
car. I'm not.
38:27
You can take the fenders off. I can.
38:29
Take the fenders off. I can take the front bumper off.
38:31
And when it comes to 4 door cars, when you're doing flares,
38:34
you're not only doing the fenders on the quarters, you're
38:36
going into the bumpers. So it requires the plastic work
38:38
on the bumpers, the whole 9, the whole 9.
38:41
So this was like a full job. So it was a four door car and I
38:45
start doing the flares right. And again, I think the flares
38:48
look good. This is a subjective business.
38:51
It's all opinions. Who's to say what's right?
38:54
I think it looks good. So I followed the body lines.
38:57
The shit looked, it looked as good as it can be for the car.
39:01
So I start posting pics and he's like, yeah, yeah, it's cool.
39:05
It's cool, it's cool. And obviously if you guys see, I
39:07
post a lot. Once a car comes in, I ask the
39:11
customer, I said is it okay to post?
39:13
Absolutely cool. I'm posting the whole time and
39:15
he's fine with it. So I'm doing it doing doing.
39:18
I finish all the metal work, finish all the body work.
39:21
And I was like, you know what, let me just prime the whole
39:23
front end. It'll be done and then and then
39:24
I'll start working on the rear. I like, I like to cross like
39:27
things off. So I was like, OK, at least like
39:29
the front will be done. He could come and see the front
39:32
and you know, I'm used to people walking in and seeing things
39:37
I've done and they're like. Whoa, shit, dog.
39:41
Yeah. And I like that.
39:42
That's half the reason why I'm doing it short.
39:44
The money's fine, but I like to hear that.
39:46
So like we're like walking in. I'm like, yo, you ready to see
39:50
this shit, dude? He's like, oh, am I ready to see
39:53
this? I'm like, you ready?
39:54
He's like, oh, I'm ready. So I'm not, I'm like hyping him
39:56
up, you know, I'm like, yo, you're not ready to see this.
39:59
So then I open up the door and he's like looking at it.
40:00
He's like, well, you know, And look, I take, I take criticism
40:12
very bad. Very bad, Very bad.
40:15
OK. Very bad.
40:17
And. It's it's a big weakness of
40:20
mine. You know, it's fine and I know
40:23
it's a weakness. I'm working on it, you know.
40:25
So he was like, he was like, oh, you know, can you take this line
40:28
and round it off? Can you take this and do this?
40:29
I was like, hey dude, this ain't fucking Build-a-bear, man.
40:33
I was like. All right, You're not gonna, you
40:34
know, come in here and adjust everything and do this.
40:36
I was like, no, you came to me for a reason and that's what it
40:39
is. And then he started showing me
40:41
pictures of these other. Cars.
40:42
Oh my. God, and I'm like, bro, why are
40:44
you showing me pictures of lambos and shit?
40:47
This is a 4 door car. What are you talking about?
40:49
He's like, oh, I'd like I want it to look like this.
40:52
So I'm like brother, look tomorrow he's like, yeah, I'm
40:56
like come pick up your car. He went what?
40:58
I'm like, dude, you signed invoice, you signed everything.
41:00
I don't agree with this. Whatever you want to do to this
41:02
car, you do it. I don't want my name to to be on
41:06
it. You pay up to what I did.
41:07
I was like, I don't want to do the rest.
41:09
I was. I'm sorry.
41:10
Yeah. What do you mean?
41:10
I was like, no, dude, if you don't let me do what I want to
41:13
do, it's done. He said, well, I figured we
41:16
could kind of work and we could kind of figure out what looks
41:18
best. No, I know what looks best.
41:21
You don't know what looks best. I do this for a living, brother.
41:25
I literally do this for a living.
41:27
I mean, it's I. Know what looks good?
41:28
It's in the terms, you know, Yeah.
41:30
Yeah, it's right there. And he said, he said, OK, he
41:35
goes, I'll take it. I said, OK, fine.
41:36
Yeah. But it's happened many times
41:38
where a car, I kind of had to stop the build because it just
41:43
started going left. But when I started to be a
41:46
little bit more strict on my vetting process for what job I
41:50
accept, the percentage rate of cars that had to leave because
41:55
of that went down. So.
41:57
Much, thank God so. Much because I vet them out so
42:00
much I know we're on the same page people think it's just
42:03
based on the car it might be the car short, but half of it is
42:06
also the customer as well. I need to make sure you're not
42:09
like somebody crazy, you know, That's like gonna really give me
42:12
a headache. That's more.
42:13
I mean, that guy caught you off guard too, because he was
42:15
posting it and sharing it and you thought.
42:17
Yeah, man, it's like and like we spoke on the phone.
42:20
I'm like, hey, I did this. He goes, oh, it's looking great,
42:22
looking great. And.
42:23
Then. He sees it in person.
42:24
He must, someone must have gotten his ear or something and
42:26
then and then been like, oh, I hate that.
42:28
I hate when that happens, man. It's just like the worst one.
42:32
They have their friends that come and they look at dude.
42:34
I've had times where like like I finish a car and the car look
42:39
great. I'm like, this shit looks hot
42:41
and then the guy comes to pick up his car, but he comes with
42:43
his boys. Here we go.
42:46
So he comes with I'm like, I know what the hell this is going
42:49
to be right? And you spend all your time, you
42:52
make the car look as good as good as possible.
42:55
You lose sleep over it. You're thinking about it in the
42:57
shower, you're eating, you're thinking about it.
42:59
Everything is about the car. Your whole life is about the
43:01
car. So then he comes to pick it up.
43:04
And you know, you kind of want to see something back from that.
43:07
This dude comes in and all of his friends start looking
43:10
underneath. They start feeling like like
43:12
they start feeling under the panels to feel for runs, to feel
43:16
if anything is dry, to feel if something hasn't been sanded
43:18
yet. And I'm like, dude, let's just
43:22
say you spot a bad right? The way you handle this is
43:25
horrible. The car looks good.
43:26
Let's say I did 10 things right and nine things were good.
43:29
You're looking for that one bad thing.
43:31
And that usually happens when they come with their boys.
43:34
For some reason, the boys want to feel like a hero for spotting
43:37
something out that he might not not have spotted out.
43:40
And I see that happen all the time.
43:42
And I have no problem saying, dude, your boys got to go, man.
43:46
It's it's me and you. We got to talk.
43:47
But they're not paying the bill. They're not doing anything.
43:50
That shit is so annoying. I hate, I hate when they do that
43:53
and listen, I and also I've had times where it was an amazing
43:57
experience where they've come with friends and friends were
43:59
like, oh, it's really nice, amazing.
44:02
I will. I want you to do my car fine,
44:03
cool. But when they want to come in,
44:06
they just want to start tearing apart the.
44:09
Bill immediately, right? I had a customer that came by
44:12
with his dad once and Oh my God yo his dad was like going crazy
44:19
on. Me, the dad was the dad was
44:23
going. Crazy about?
44:24
About what? I'm trying to share the story
44:28
with again without without. So he's like what you're the
44:31
quality of the work or something like something?
44:33
So there was something lost in. Translation.
44:37
Yeah, about how something to be done.
44:40
So, so when when they came to pick up the car, they came with
44:45
the they they came with the the dad, the kid came with with the
44:48
dad. And the dad was like, what the
44:51
fuck is this? Like, I'm sorry, can I curse?
44:54
Can I curse? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:56
I apologize, I'm cursed on here. No, it's.
44:57
I'm within a minute. I'm sorry, I was sitting down.
45:01
You're fine. This.
45:02
Is a safe. Space.
45:03
This is a safe space. We have name no names.
45:07
And I'm I'm ready. You have a right?
45:08
To. I'm really trying to not.
45:09
You have a right to share you're we're.
45:11
About to start unleashing shit too, Frankie.
45:13
Probably runs into this. I'm probably going to toss into
45:16
my bad experience with my customer like it happens and SO.
45:20
Many bad experiences. But The thing is.
45:23
It's the way you handle it and the way you step forward from it
45:26
because, like, you're still here.
45:28
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, those things are so
45:31
stressful though, because like this work is so important to me
45:36
as people's work to whatever to whoever their work is so
45:41
important to them that we take it personal.
45:44
So when something like that happens when a customer isn't
45:48
happy or the where the car leaves and like an hour after
45:53
you get a call or a text from the customer, that's never a
45:55
good thing was when the customer calls a text like right after,
45:58
you know, and like you see that and like your heart skips a beat
46:01
and you feel so, so shit and like you hear the customer
46:03
complain. You just feel so bad about
46:07
yourself and that you wish you could have done better and you
46:10
become very hard on yourself. And it is a hard feeling.
46:13
But that same feeling, there's also a superpower to how people
46:18
get to where they are because you care so much.
46:20
Dude. Because I care so much that it
46:23
might get me there, but at the same time it's a double edged
46:25
sword that when those things happen, they fucking hurt, man.
46:29
They fucking hurt. It hurts.
46:31
Yeah. Yeah, it.
46:32
Hurts that happened to me on car #5 the kid came, he was really
46:38
happy about dropping it off. I send pictures.
46:41
I always try to keep that line of communication open.
46:44
We have technology now. If you can reach out to me of.
46:46
Course, that's fine. Yeah, yeah.
46:47
Just don't tell me what you're fucking eating for dinner.
46:49
I don't care. Just keep it about the pain.
46:51
Yeah. Yeah, and then da da, da kept.
46:55
I always disclose, especially since I'm new.
46:57
Hey, I'm new. Just know I might make a mistake
47:01
or two, but I'm going to show you the mistakes.
47:03
I'll tell you how I'm going about the mistakes and I'm gonna
47:05
fix. Them.
47:05
Yeah, yeah. Car came.
47:07
Out. You're honest.
47:08
And I have to. I'm new.
47:10
No, no, I can't hide anything. It's.
47:12
The best because when they when they go on with what you said,
47:19
it's like you don't have anything to prove because if
47:21
something screws up or messes up, you already addressed the
47:24
fact that you're learning. So and if they agreed with that
47:26
as well, you're good. I know, but then you're good.
47:30
I sprayed it. It was It was a color that is
47:33
hard to. What color?
47:36
It would be so obvious. Yeah, I see, I see.
47:39
Yeah, OK, what does the color rhyme with but the?
47:45
Good thing you caught yourself, Carl, because I would have just
47:46
said it. The the.
47:50
I see I. See the the car came out it to
47:53
mine like. It is really it's it's a shit
47:57
color. It's a shit color.
47:58
It covers like fuck. It was my first time painting
48:00
that color and they were reiterating, reiterating to me.
48:04
It didn't have to be perfect. The job was cheap.
48:07
I They kept saying that to me. I.
48:08
Pay the I I charge people cheap 'cause it's I'm new, I want to
48:12
get. I need prices or no?
48:14
Yeah, I I charged them 1600 to do the whole car.
48:18
Wow. Yeah.
48:20
Carl's paying a lot of drift cars.
48:21
But I wanna like, I want people to willingly drop it off to me
48:26
so I can learn. I make maybe like a couple 100
48:29
bucks on it and I spend hours. Even if.
48:32
You made nothing, even if you made nothing.
48:35
I tell people all the time, people again the the I tell the
48:39
people that work for me. I tell them all.
48:41
I cannot say it enough experience Go out there and get
48:45
jobs even if you're not getting paid off of it.
48:47
Dude, you're working on this thing.
48:49
You all your expenses are being paid for.
48:52
You're getting paid to learn. You're doing it.
48:53
That's it. And if and if the customer's OK
48:56
with you being new, who cares? Do it.
48:58
Yeah, I dude, I did how much shit for making no money at all,
49:03
but it adds to your portfolio of shit to sell to the next job.
49:08
Like, hey, here's what I did Boom, boom, boom XYZ did this
49:10
and then here's why. Now I'm I'm going to charge you
49:13
this much because I did this. It just adds to your to your
49:16
portfolio. After that and after, you know,
49:20
literally everything you just said that happens with a bad
49:23
transaction happened. Nice.
49:25
They picked it up the the reaction that I wanted wasn't
49:29
there that I usually got prior. But you shouldn't be looking
49:33
for. That reaction I shouldn't and
49:35
that's why I was like, I'm OK. An exchange of money for the
49:39
rest happened and then an hour later I get a call or a text
49:43
saying that he had a friend look at it.
49:46
Always a friend. Always.
49:47
A friend, my heart, but I could. Just put myself in the.
49:50
Desk but the problem is is yes it sent me through like a damn.
49:55
I kind of tried a little hard on it.
49:57
It didn't come out great, but the conditions that I painted
49:59
are horrible. I can look at this so many
50:02
different ways. Obviously I was like damn, like
50:06
I guess he really didn't like it that much and then what can I
50:10
do? I want to do as right as I could
50:14
possibly do. So what was he asking for?
50:16
He was asking to just be charged for the materials which I only
50:19
charged him for the paint but not like brother you should've
50:23
stand paid. $1600 How much? What are you talking about?
50:26
My my. The how?
50:27
Much more can you take? Away $1600 I.
50:30
Refunded him for the paint. Just the paint.
50:33
I didn't refund them. Carl lost on this one.
50:35
I didn't refund them. For my sandpaper or the DAS that
50:39
I had to buy because I was sanding like literally until the
50:42
Sander would just get so fucking hot because I use these electric
50:45
ones that they were breaking. So then I was sanding.
50:48
It yeah, we need to get you in there when.
50:50
It doesn't, it didn't, it doesn't.
50:53
Like none of that ever gets translated.
50:55
So no. I refunded them the money.
50:57
I lost some I learned a lot good and then after that one, even
51:04
after I had many people go and go like, hey, this guy is like
51:08
posting this on the Internet. I'm like, I don't really care.
51:10
I did all I can do on my end. You.
51:12
Posted about it, yeah. To make me feel.
51:16
To make me feel like I did what I can do to make that it's OK
51:21
Not everybody's going to be happy with my work. $1500 but
51:26
what the hell is he going to get out of?
51:27
That The thing is, is at the end of the day, like I just wanted
51:29
to make sure that I did what I could have done it.
51:32
Looks like you did everything you could have done.
51:34
Yeah. But in the end of the again he
51:36
just said end of the day a bunch of times because in conclusion,
51:40
no matter what that person can say that I'm a shit bag and like
51:45
I didn't do right by him or. Something.
51:46
But but here's the thing, like all those things you said, it
51:50
wasn't a paint place or it wasn't whatever.
51:51
Those are all excuses. Yeah, let's just be honest.
51:54
Like those are all excuses. Totally.
51:55
It doesn't matter all that. The fact of the matter is you
51:59
need to learn and get better. That's it.
52:01
So then I took everything down. I took.
52:03
I stopped taking in work after that.
52:05
I made plans to get a better booth.
52:08
Wait, what do you mean you took everything down?
52:10
Like my like my setup. I redid everything because I was
52:14
like I'm going to make these way.
52:15
Better, OK. It took like a it took a day or
52:19
two for me to be like, why did that come out like shit?
52:22
Yeah. Why didn't it come out the way
52:24
that I wanted it to? Easy.
52:26
Like I'm I'm and I'm sorry, I don't want sound fucked up.
52:28
No, but it didn't because you're not that good.
52:31
That's fine, I need to get you. Need to get better.
52:34
That's it. That's all there, which is
52:36
amazing and the fact that you know, you learned with this, you
52:39
got to do a car that you got that you got paid for and all
52:42
that stuff is fine and amazing. But I I'm sure I'm 100% sure
52:48
everything that you fucked up on on that job.
52:51
I bet you you're not going to do.
52:52
It for the next job. Never again.
52:54
So worth it. I fucked up so many jobs and I
52:56
won't do the same things I do on the following job.
52:59
And I and I just think to myself, OK, whatever I went
53:02
through, it was a lesson. Yeah, it was a lesson.
53:05
And I think I learned, I think I learned a guy for that.
53:07
Because honestly, could have been worse.
53:10
Could have been way worse. I mean that that is pretty bad
53:12
though. But.
53:13
It is like it is, but thankfully like.
53:17
But did you, did you tell Kay about how I'm pretty sure you
53:21
said I'll redo whatever? Yeah, I did.
53:24
I usually. Offered to redo everything.
53:26
Yeah, you guys said no, Yeah, OK.
53:28
So right there, that's already like.
53:29
No, no good. That's fine.
53:30
Take it, take it somewhere else. It's it's it was clean.
53:34
Hopefully they got what they needed in the end with their
53:38
vision of what the car wanted to be.
53:40
But I continued on and I took it fucking personally, Yeah.
53:44
Yeah, yeah. I, I, I fucking I.
53:46
Completely took it. Personally, I got I did my
53:49
homework with everything and now I'm just, I had to sit there and
53:53
reflect what I was doing wrong, what I'm not going to do
53:55
anymore, how I'm going to make my new quote UN quote boots set
53:58
up a little bit better with what I have and then just keep upping
54:04
the fuck out of the result. Yeah, he he name dropped you on
54:07
the Internet when he when he wrote about it.
54:09
No. OK.
54:10
I was going to say if he did that then I would definitely.
54:12
Take it personally. No, no, no, but but.
54:14
Here's the thing, I am not afraid of it and I told that
54:18
person like if anybody asks you who painted it, tell them
54:23
because I and then also tell them that I'm working on it
54:26
because it's never going to look like that.
54:29
I would have. Just said that's asshole moves
54:31
man. That the guy that posted about
54:33
that, he shouldn't have posted about that especially.
54:35
He shouldn't name my name. After everything, it doesn't.
54:36
Matter. It doesn't matter.
54:38
You saying you're new is enough. That was it.
54:41
That was the. That's it.
54:42
I got to look at it. You know what's the learning
54:44
curve? I've got to look at it too,
54:46
because I'm I'm a consumer too. You're looking at it in a great
54:51
way. I'm a consumer too, and if I
54:53
left my car with somebody, I'd want it the way that I thought
54:58
it was going, of course. So I was just trying to be as
55:01
neutral as I possibly could be from somebody who typically
55:05
isn't like that. I'm trying to be the business
55:08
owner that I want to be. I want to be this.
55:10
I want to be faction. I want to be super life.
55:12
I want to be. You saying a business owner?
55:14
So is this going to be a thing? I've been messing around with I
55:18
like, I like the processes that I go through.
55:21
I like running things the way I like to run it.
55:25
I like planning my week the way I got laid off in December.
55:28
Laid off in December. What were you doing?
55:32
I worked a office job for the past two years since since we
55:35
went on our pod. I was working at an office.
55:39
I'd go there 9 to 49 to 3:30 depending on what the work's
55:43
looking like. Jet home, get out of my work
55:46
clothes, my like business casual.
55:48
Oh, and. Then start.
55:49
Paint suit 5 to 10 right away. Good.
55:52
Yeah, he was working a lot. Look, when when I was when I was
55:56
working for my dad just back in my 20s, I was.
56:00
So like last week, I know I'm I'm I'm like that has a little.
56:05
Kiss for you. There you go.
56:08
Wait, you know when I walked in, you said I'd change it?
56:11
You. You mean I got fat?
56:12
Or so you're thin. Where the fuck is the?
56:14
Rest you did. You did like.
56:15
What you. Did you know what it is?
56:17
Let me tell. Him, what it actually is is your
56:19
hair. No, the my hair.
56:22
My hair was cut the last time, Yeah.
56:24
'Cause your long hair was like I.
56:25
Have my dreads. Yeah, yeah.
56:26
I don't have my DID. You lose weight or no?
56:28
Yes, he had. A no, that's what a rude
56:31
question. I don't know.
56:33
No, no, Because when I walked in and after I thought about it,
56:35
I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, did I get fucking fat?
56:39
No, The work is absolutely all, all wild.
56:42
But back then in my, when I was around 20, I think I was still
56:46
living with my parents. I was 2526.
56:48
I would work with my dad. It was 9:00 in the morning to
56:52
seven at night. I would come home at 7, come
56:55
home, eat, go out and I'd go outside.
56:58
My dad built me this little spot to work in the back like this
57:01
small shed and had like a fan and shit inside everything for
57:04
all the dust and everything. I'll be out there from 8:00 to
57:06
midnight fire. Oh this one continue on for so
57:10
long now. Those days when I was in them,
57:14
it was like Oh my God, like I just want my own place.
57:17
I want to do this. I want to be doing these cars I
57:19
was working on shit. Now when I think back at those
57:22
days, man, what good days those were like those come up days
57:25
like everyone I love like the come up story.
57:28
The come up story is so cool. And when I was doing it, when I
57:33
was working the day with my dad and working at night and then I
57:36
would do this and then I was an apprentice, I would have to
57:38
drive from Brooklyn to Jersey every single day and I would do
57:43
it for like $300.00 a week. And I did, I did that for years
57:48
and I would just continue on, continue on.
57:50
I'm like it's going to pay off. It has to hard work always pays
57:55
off and one day it's going to, but putting in those hours
58:00
always pays off, always whatever you have to do.
58:03
It's just sometimes obviously you don't want to you're you're
58:08
freaking tired. You just came home from working.
58:10
But we don't forget that this shit that we're doing, it's fun.
58:16
We want to do it. Yeah, I was going to say we want
58:19
no one's making us to. Do it shit.
58:20
No, like like like I'm fully aware that what I'm doing on a
58:25
day-to-day basis is what other people think about on their free
58:29
time. And I'm very fortunate for that.
58:32
We should be fortunate for for that.
58:34
It's an amazing feeling that I get to do this shit and get paid
58:40
for it. So man, it's just the hours when
58:45
putting them in were tough. But again, when you get to it
58:48
and you see the, then you see the results on where it gets
58:52
you, you look back and you're like, oh, that shit was worth
58:54
it. That how long do you think
58:56
before you, I know you, this is a hard one to answer.
58:59
How long during that process, how many years do you think went
59:03
by before you were like, I think I kind of know what I'm doing a
59:06
little bit now. No, I, I think you know what a
59:09
big curse is, is I forgot what the theory is called.
59:15
But there's a theory that explains the better you get at
59:21
something, and the more you start to learn about something,
59:25
the more you understand how much you don't know.
59:28
So you still think you don't know anything?
59:29
I think I don't know shit. I tell people.
59:31
I think I don't know. Shit, I mean.
59:32
It's a good, it's a good way to keep.
59:34
It's a good mentality. It's really because like there
59:37
was this one time I, I, I had this friend that used to work
59:40
for me, his name was Matt. And I asked him one time he's he
59:44
was working for me for like, let's say a year at that point.
59:47
And he was talking about his skill level.
59:50
And then I asked him, I was like, hey, man, I was like, I'm
59:53
just curious. I was like if you had to put
59:55
your skill on a scale from zero to 10, from zero to 10. 0.
1:00:03
Being the worst 10, being a master.
1:00:06
I said, where do you think you're at and where do you think
1:00:09
that I'm at? And then he sat there.
1:00:11
I said, you're going to tell me right away.
1:00:12
I don't want to instant. I was like, think about it for a
1:00:14
while and then I want you to to come back and then I want you to
1:00:18
tell me. He said OK, fine.
1:00:20
So he's working. He's working.
1:00:21
He's working in about about one hour passes and then he comes
1:00:23
back to me. He's like, all right.
1:00:24
He goes, I'm ready. I'm all right.
1:00:26
I'm all right. He's like, all right.
1:00:27
I took a lot into account of what I know.
1:00:29
I know how to send. I know he's just naming things,
1:00:31
right. So I'm like Matt, I'm like,
1:00:33
what's the number? So he goes, I think I'm like A5.
1:00:36
He goes, I think you're like a nine.
1:00:38
I was like, OK, I was like, that's what you think he's like,
1:00:41
yeah. I'm like, all right.
1:00:42
I'm like, do you wanna know? I'm like, do you wanna know what
1:00:44
I think he's like, yeah. I'm like, OK, please don't be
1:00:46
offended. He goes, OK, fine.
1:00:48
So I say I don't think you're even a 1.
1:00:51
And I say I would say me. At that point in time, I'm about
1:00:54
a four. As long as you didn't.
1:00:57
Give yourself the 10 I'm. Fine.
1:00:58
What do you mean as 10 is a master?
1:01:01
Yeah, 10 is a master and I've only been doing it for 10 years.
1:01:04
How can I be a ten? Yeah, how can somebody be a
1:01:07
master that five? So he put himself out of five.
1:01:10
That would mean he's halfway to being a master at one year.
1:01:13
If you boil down the scale 1/2. No, no one. 1:00 to 2:00 to 1
1:01:19
patient. It's completely, I would say
1:01:22
like I, I, I would say still now, still now I'm 4-5, still
1:01:27
still easy and I'm still learning, I'm still getting
1:01:30
better and. But a 4-5 getting better, a four
1:01:32
or five is. A four or five on my scale.
1:01:34
Yes. Is that means you're comfortable
1:01:40
taking people's money and doing this for a living?
1:01:42
Oh I hate what I put out, dude. That is it.
1:01:46
It. It is.
1:01:47
No. I love what I.
1:01:49
Said recently. Recently, it's been getting
1:01:53
better. Thank God.
1:01:54
Recently, it's been getting better.
1:01:55
Recently and what the OK? Recently, recently, I would say
1:01:59
maybe like recently, maybe the past year I've been really I I
1:02:05
like what did. You put out that you because
1:02:08
this you're thinking of something.
1:02:10
So not anything specifically, but I'm thinking about a
1:02:13
timeline because I know times where I was hard on myself for
1:02:17
when cars would leave, right? When cars would leave, I would
1:02:21
finish the car, I would take it outside, I'd wash the car, and I
1:02:25
couldn't look at the car again. I couldn't look at it.
1:02:27
As you were too many hours on it or because you.
1:02:29
Don't like it Too many imperfections that I could have
1:02:31
been better at and I know things I should have done better and I
1:02:35
was like shit when I had to either go X or Yi can't believe
1:02:38
I went Yi shouldn't want X, right?
1:02:39
So after I wash a car and I'm done with it, I either I can't
1:02:42
look at it again or I would finish the car and I would bag
1:02:45
it. I would put like a big sheet
1:02:46
over it just so I don't look at it again because it would hurt
1:02:48
me. So I don't know what it is now
1:02:53
that I like like I recently, maybe last year I did this FD
1:02:59
and I really, I really like the way everything came out.
1:03:03
And it felt so weird stepping back from my own work going like
1:03:07
oh. Wow, stood.
1:03:09
Like wow this looks good. And it was so weird for me
1:03:11
because I usually step back and go oh God why do I suck?
1:03:18
Why am? I doing.
1:03:19
This like it's just so it's just so rough.
1:03:22
So in recent years, maybe, you know, I don't know if it has to
1:03:27
do with now. Now I'm a father and I'm a new
1:03:32
father and. Congratulations.
1:03:34
Thank you. Thank you very much.
1:03:36
Super Dad I. Was going to say maybe I have
1:03:38
something with you being a father.
1:03:39
I think it does, because back then this was every.
1:03:44
It still is everything to me. But it was who I am.
1:03:48
It wasn't what I did. Now it's what I do and I know
1:03:52
it's not the most important. That's.
1:03:55
FD. That's FD.
1:03:56
And what did you do here? You did the wide body.
1:03:58
I did so much shit on dude man. Look, I tinted the carbon green
1:04:04
right? So now.
1:04:07
Yeah. I tinted the carbon.
1:04:09
Okay, now I'm probably gonna stutter a lot more because when
1:04:12
I get excited I stutter a lot more.
1:04:14
But yeah, I did everything on this.
1:04:16
The whole car is 2 tone. I did like multiple colors going
1:04:21
all the way into the engine Bay. Everything painted inside and
1:04:24
out. Like it's hard to show but like
1:04:27
inside the headlight cover is. Darker.
1:04:30
Is to color inside that additional piece for the front
1:04:34
bumper. Inside that piece is a secondary
1:04:37
color. There's just secondary colors
1:04:39
everywhere inside the Bay. I've made like the strut towers
1:04:42
a secondary color and like see like inside the vents is a
1:04:45
secondary color. It's RX8 vent and I mean the
1:04:47
blinker. Yes, yes, yes it is.
1:04:50
That's crazy. So and like with this, I think
1:04:52
like back then I would pick bad color choices.
1:04:55
This I've been starting to like a a mono style of what?
1:05:01
Now I like the secondary color thing secondary and like, I like
1:05:04
that a lot. I.
1:05:06
Like that always, I would always try to pick wild contrasting
1:05:10
colors. Now realizing my realizing
1:05:14
myself, I like mono color theme. So with this, it was shades of
1:05:19
green, all different shades of green, where it doesn't stick
1:05:23
out so much, but you know, it's a different color and like
1:05:26
usually someone would go opposite, complete opposite to
1:05:29
see where it stands out. No, I like to let it really sink
1:05:32
in. And as you start to go through
1:05:34
the car, you start to find all the stuff.
1:05:37
Why? Why the photo of the inside of
1:05:39
the door? Just to see the door jamb?
1:05:40
Or is there something going on there too?
1:05:42
No, just because. How nice.
1:05:43
Yeah, yeah, it does look nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:05:45
But because stuff like that when one, yeah, you see even on the
1:05:49
mirrors, even on the mirrors and everything that is.
1:05:52
Emerald Zone. So that color is AR 34 jade.
1:06:01
Yeah, exactly. And then the the secondary color
1:06:05
is a Mopar color. It's a like a dark green.
1:06:09
I forgot what the color name was, but it worked really good.
1:06:12
I spent so long putting the color on.
1:06:14
The Swatch. Yeah, OK.
1:06:15
I was. Like my, my paint, my paint guy
1:06:18
is really good. My my lighting supplier, he
1:06:23
knows I'm really annoying with shit.
1:06:25
So when I'm trying to look for a certain hue, I don't have books.
1:06:28
I'm like yo I need this certain shade, send me a bunch and he'll
1:06:30
send me different swatches and I'll match up to the car to see
1:06:34
what what works well and that's what I ended up with.
1:06:37
I went with a couple different combos until I landed on this.
1:06:41
That little note that you just made right there how you like
1:06:45
doing mono color builds is a note.
1:06:49
That's one of them little notes that I note like I just noted
1:06:53
that. I noted I wrote down secondary
1:06:56
color on details quote, quote FD super life.
1:06:59
So then I could go like reference it back because that
1:07:02
you remember 10 seconds to share versus years of you growing.
1:07:06
That would have taken me a long time to be like, yeah, yeah,
1:07:09
yeah. My taste would have had to
1:07:10
evolve into that. And you see all of this like
1:07:14
when when the customer came to me, the original idea was the
1:07:19
car was going to be purple. No.
1:07:21
And I'm like purple no, no, I'm like brother, no.
1:07:25
So I changed up everything and like I'm like, dude, please
1:07:27
don't think I'm taking over the build, but I don't have anything
1:07:30
to gain from your car looking good or bad, but just please
1:07:33
trust me. And he said OK, fine.
1:07:35
I was like, well, I'm changing everything up.
1:07:37
So it changed it all up. And afterwards he was like, oh.
1:07:40
It's pretty crazy. I love it.
1:07:42
The customer let you change the color of the car completely.
1:07:45
It's. On the invoice.
1:07:46
Thankfully. How's it going?
1:07:47
It's there. It's.
1:07:49
On there voice I really hate dark purples because he wanted
1:07:51
like a dark purple. But I like dark purple.
1:07:54
There's certain colors I don't like, and if I don't like it, I
1:07:57
choose not. It's a.
1:07:58
Small car though so I don't know if I would want.
1:08:00
I think purple could look good, but this green isn't.
1:08:02
It makes the car looks. Even green, The green works.
1:08:06
I mean, Millennium Jade is. So, OK, so during this car, my
1:08:11
wife was pregnant and then I had my son while I was doing this
1:08:16
car. So I consider this car like the
1:08:18
start of a new phase of work because like like how I was
1:08:23
explaining when I became a dad, it became not less caring of the
1:08:28
work, but more like, hey, it's all good, everything is fine, it
1:08:32
doesn't matter I'm just having fun.
1:08:34
And that approach kind of change it up to not put so much
1:08:37
pressure on me and for my mental state.
1:08:40
And I just approached the bills in a different way, in a more
1:08:43
peace way of like, it's it's all right.
1:08:45
It's just a car. Who the fuck cares?
1:08:47
I still get you. Yeah, bro, I, I life is still so
1:08:51
good. I'm I'm still going home to my
1:08:53
amazing life, to my beautiful kid, to my amazing home, to my
1:08:57
cars. Like who the fuck cares about
1:08:59
this shit? If it fucks up, I'll do it
1:09:00
better. I'll do it the following day.
1:09:02
Who cares? And that change my mentality.
1:09:05
You are winning so hard. Right now, that's so funny.
1:09:08
We were just on another podcast, the last one of the last ones.
1:09:11
We were just talking about kids and how myself and this person,
1:09:15
we we were like, yeah, we're not really at that stage.
1:09:17
We we're even think about. OK, yeah, let's even think about
1:09:20
it, yeah. Yeah.
1:09:21
And now you're saying but, but we also were saying, well, you
1:09:23
know, but these people do have kids.
1:09:25
They say, you know, it's the most change, this thing that
1:09:28
changes their life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:09:29
This it really does change your. Life and what you just said is a
1:09:32
good example. Change my whole view on on my
1:09:35
work and just like how, how I was explaining where it's not
1:09:39
end of the world because you understand what's more important
1:09:42
and what's the bigger thing. Like coming into it, it really
1:09:45
did change my, my workflow. Like I recall coming home from
1:09:50
work just upset every day. Like this is when I had the
1:09:54
studio, I had everything. I would just come home upset
1:09:57
because I'm like, shit, like I just could have done better
1:09:59
here, here, here, here, whatever.
1:10:00
Like again, I take my work personal, so I don't remember
1:10:04
the last time I came home upset or angry because why?
1:10:08
You know why? Like there's just no like this
1:10:10
is what's most. Important, gonna have to be
1:10:12
upset tomorrow. It was just, yeah, it's like,
1:10:14
who cares? It's not so.
1:10:16
Interesting. So it, it really changed my
1:10:18
whole aspect on, on everything. And, you know, not like, and not
1:10:23
only that, in a in a couple years, I'm gonna have some free
1:10:26
workers. Yeah, yeah.
1:10:29
Following in your father's this. Guy is playing the long game for
1:10:33
labor. That is insane.
1:10:36
That's it man, free work. That's why he's going to be a.
1:10:38
Prodigy man, he's going to be a prodigy.
1:10:41
Dude, imagine Yo Malcolm, imagine you got crazy LAX
1:10:46
Frankie around. Oh my.
1:10:48
God, yeah, I wanted to ask. You like how?
1:10:50
Did you do that? Get him get.
1:10:52
Spread that over. What?
1:10:53
What did you said? Over there.
1:10:55
When you when she was pregnant and you knew you knew the baby
1:10:58
was coming, what was your thoughts on it?
1:11:00
Did you think that this was going to happen?
1:11:02
Probably not, no. I thought it was going to be
1:11:04
harder because it was always weird.
1:11:08
Like I liked being at the like I liked being at the at my studio
1:11:13
so much that it was hard to take me away from there.
1:11:17
And I had to, I'm like, I couldn't understand the fact I'm
1:11:20
like, shit, they're like my kids going to be at home.
1:11:23
Like, am I not going to want to be here?
1:11:25
Am I going to like, I felt like because of all my
1:11:27
responsibilities were were going to shift.
1:11:29
I felt like my, my work quality was going to go down because I
1:11:33
would be so focused on this. And it really didn't like quite
1:11:37
the opposite happened, actually. Work is so enjoyable, but it's
1:11:40
also just as enjoyable to leave, you know?
1:11:42
So while she was pregnant, I was, so I was, I was distraught
1:11:49
on how I was going to handle my mental approach working and
1:11:55
being there and how my schedule is going to be.
1:11:58
And I don't know how am I going to do this, but I don't like to.
1:12:02
I don't like to plan long term. I'm like, we'll see what
1:12:05
happens. I just, we'll see what happens.
1:12:07
And then it always works out. I long term planning just
1:12:10
stresses me out. So I go, hey, we'll see.
1:12:12
It looks like it almost. I don't know what I was going to
1:12:15
say before, but I had something. It's like it.
1:12:18
It kind of relaxed your work ethic in a way.
1:12:22
It did, but it did. But that ended up helping.
1:12:25
It helped. It helped it it, it makes sense
1:12:28
when people say things like, Oh, you're working too much.
1:12:30
You got to go and relax and to work better.
1:12:32
I'm like, no, no, what do you mean?
1:12:33
Like I was like, oh, this was the ultimate example because
1:12:36
this, like it kind of it relaxed me in such a way for, for
1:12:41
understanding this isn't the most important thing that it
1:12:43
essentially made my work. Better you were stressing the
1:12:45
small shit, yes? That's what it was.
1:12:47
And I would every everything that would come in the work, I
1:12:50
would just be like, Oh my God, how am I going to do this?
1:12:52
How am I going to do this when now it comes in about.
1:12:57
We'll see what happens, you know?
1:12:59
OK, well, you're. Jaded now, is that it?
1:13:02
I don't know if I'm you, like went up a tertiary because now
1:13:05
you have a child and this is like a new stress level.
1:13:08
So now all that older bullshit is like, it's nothing.
1:13:11
It's nothing. Yeah.
1:13:12
Yeah, maybe it's it's really and not that you know it.
1:13:17
It has its own versions of stress being a father, but not
1:13:21
stress how you would imagine. And I don't, I don't, I don't
1:13:25
try to care to explain how it changes because no one could
1:13:28
have explained it to me when I didn't have a child.
1:13:30
But when you actually are in that place, you see it and it,
1:13:35
it, it makes sense. You're like, I'm scared.
1:13:37
I see. I'm scared I'm going to let's
1:13:38
say I have a kid someday. I'm scared that I would just
1:13:41
always just be looking at him or her, like yo that's my that's my
1:13:48
child. Yeah, it's like the weirdest
1:13:50
thing. I like, yeah, I like, look at
1:13:53
him. I'm like, dude, like.
1:13:54
You kind of look like like. Yo like.
1:13:57
You came from like. Me bro like this is weird.
1:14:02
He just. Looks at me like he has no idea
1:14:04
what I'm saying. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:14:06
don't. Do this 600 grit and this is
1:14:09
2/20. I can't wait to to go through
1:14:12
all that, man. Here's the way you do this, and
1:14:14
here's the way you say it, and here's the way you this.
1:14:17
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you gave us that
1:14:19
insight that was. Yeah, it's it's really not as
1:14:23
stressful as I thought it was going to be.
1:14:25
And thankfully, the way my work situation is, I, I work at
1:14:35
nights, I watch my son during, during the day, we hang out, we
1:14:39
get breakfast, we do whatever and I get to the studio around
1:14:42
like 3:00 and then I work till late and I just do it over
1:14:45
again. And it's not hard at all.
1:14:48
You know, it's really. It's you got him on a good he's.
1:14:51
Pretty chilling. He's a a year.
1:14:53
And a half year and a half fucking.
1:14:55
Yeah, a year and a half. So.
1:14:56
You got him on a good sleep schedule and everything.
1:14:58
Oh yeah. Yeah.
1:14:59
Yeah, he's he's fine with sleep. But normally.
1:15:02
I have one, but I do know how fucking hard that could be.
1:15:06
Oh yeah, when I see new parents and they're in that first couple
1:15:09
months, I'm like, brother, oh, my heart goes out to you, man.
1:15:12
I I know what you're up against. My buddy's got twins when I went
1:15:16
to his house in the you had a Super Bowl party.
1:15:18
Everything was beautifully. It always is responsibly
1:15:22
planned. I'm like, bro, they would give
1:15:25
you twins, dude, They they would.
1:15:27
You're out of all of our. Friends, the most responsible.
1:15:30
One at. The same time.
1:15:33
Same time and Oh my God, I was like out of all people, man,
1:15:37
that's crazy man, that's you, that's you my.
1:15:41
Hoodie. Oh, no problem.
1:15:41
Dude, that that. Yeah.
1:15:44
Frankie, I don't know what. What kids?
1:15:46
Yeah, I don't know when. I'm not having that shit ever.
1:15:48
But I'm glad for Kay. I'm glad for Kay.
1:15:51
I'm glad everything's working out.
1:15:53
I gotta beat me in hula. Lady.
1:15:57
Yeah. Carl will definitely have kids,
1:16:00
I can see that. I went with myself.
1:16:03
Am I right or no? No, You.
1:16:04
You. Whenever people had kids, when I
1:16:06
didn't have kids, they're always like.
1:16:08
You should have one have one have.
1:16:09
One, yeah, yeah, I would never do that to anybody and put that
1:16:12
kind of pressure on them because it really is a lot.
1:16:14
It's not like getting a. Fucking hamster.
1:16:17
It's not like getting a hamster a hamster.
1:16:20
This is a huge thing that you need to it.
1:16:23
Freaks me out to so the the timeline.
1:16:25
OK, so like when you have that new spawn, it's like spawn that
1:16:31
well, because boy or girl, whatever, it could like that.
1:16:35
Non binary baby. Child is going to be, if
1:16:38
everything goes correctly, the like the timeline of life, which
1:16:42
is like for years. So you just started that with
1:16:47
one little? Yeah.
1:16:50
Malcolm. No.
1:16:50
A new bathroom. That's crazy to see him.
1:16:53
Yeah. It's really weird.
1:16:54
Yeah, it's weird, right? That door.
1:16:56
Like yo don't use that. Yeah.
1:16:57
You should have a door where you could like.
1:17:00
No. Right through it.
1:17:01
What are you talking about? That's why we just put on these
1:17:04
special glasses, right? Here I'm just, I'm watching him
1:17:06
because I'm like, you better not blow that bathroom though.
1:17:09
I told no number ones only. I don't want you guys to know
1:17:11
how long it is. Well, at least over there I
1:17:13
could say. I, I, I wanted to say at least I
1:17:16
could say it on here, dude, the place looks fucking amazing,
1:17:20
man. I'm just going to give you your
1:17:22
flowers while we're on the air because it's fucking amazing,
1:17:26
dude. Nobody's doing this shit.
1:17:28
So the fact that you're doing it like this, killer the place.
1:17:32
Looks amazing, I really appreciate.
1:17:33
It and like like how how I was saying out there, anyone could
1:17:38
have space but for it to look good like how it does how it
1:17:43
looks like you know what you're doing.
1:17:44
This place is fucking. It's running like like like how
1:17:48
it should be. Good shit man.
1:17:50
Thank you man. Amazing.
1:17:51
I appreciate it. Amazing.
1:17:52
And after checking out your space, I, you know, thank you.
1:17:55
I view you as my peer. You know, we're both, we're both
1:17:57
around the same age. We've both been doing this shit.
1:17:59
So yeah. And.
1:18:01
I'm taking my fucking words. Luckily.
1:18:04
Luckily, he's not like. I view you as my opposition.
1:18:07
No, I mean, hey, look, if you had that paint room, then we're.
1:18:10
Comfortable, that'd be. Different.
1:18:12
Yeah, no, I you know, when I signed this lease, it was the
1:18:15
one thing that she said like 7 years, eight years ago.
1:18:17
Whatever She she goes no painting.
1:18:20
I'm like OK, I don't give a fuck about painting.
1:18:22
Everybody hates that stuff. Like thankfully my landlord,
1:18:26
when I got in there, he was like, he was one of my biggest
1:18:30
supporters. He he was fine with anything I
1:18:33
wanted to do. So the fact that I wanted to
1:18:35
paint, he was like, hey, he was like, do whatever you want.
1:18:37
I don't give a shit. So this is one I didn't own the
1:18:40
building yet. It was just renting.
1:18:42
And he said do whatever you want.
1:18:44
That was like such like, because I know what it was like to look
1:18:48
for shops. And once the landlord hears some
1:18:52
kind of paints or dirt. The first.
1:18:54
Thing is automotive. Automotive.
1:18:55
Then then body wear paint, then you've.
1:18:58
Got to double down. Yeah.
1:19:00
Hey, actually. So it was the worst.
1:19:03
So when I told him that and he said, yeah, you could do
1:19:05
whatever you want. It was a it was very fortunate
1:19:07
because it's hard to find. Then the building where I'm at
1:19:10
being it's zoned for everything. It is again, very fortunate.
1:19:15
And then I we bought the property and 20/3/2023 yeah, he
1:19:20
right at the end of the night, so.
1:19:21
I bought out the. Commercial space.
1:19:23
So thankfully it's it's a dream. It's across the street from a
1:19:28
Wawa. Dude, it's across the street
1:19:29
from a Wawa. I can't wait for you to come.
1:19:30
They. Poop they do.
1:19:31
The fence. I know the video in my head.
1:19:34
Dude. Of the fence.
1:19:36
Dude, I see hoagies in my dreams.
1:19:38
Dude I'm fucking. I'm like, scared.
1:19:40
That's so you 2 Having spaces like these gives people like me
1:19:46
who are trying to start a little something like my booth right
1:19:49
now. It went from like a single Bay
1:19:51
garage where like plastic hanging from all over to now I
1:19:54
bought like a little bit of a wider little structure of a tent
1:19:58
paint booth thing to now there's there's a little space next to
1:20:02
that. That's a garage.
1:20:04
It's just occupied at the moment, but I want that one so I
1:20:06
can make it. So you can make it better.
1:20:08
Slowly like. Having your space is.
1:20:12
It's a good. Feeling so I.
1:20:13
Control it. I can make it as clean as I want
1:20:17
it and every time I leave there fucking clean, the hoses are all
1:20:21
reeled up. They'll every all the cords are
1:20:23
like where they got to be so that when I go in there next
1:20:25
time I just get everything. Until until you have an
1:20:27
employee. That's on.
1:20:29
But yeah, but I have an employee that's on me.
1:20:31
So that's why I'm like, wow, this is kind of SIP, yeah.
1:20:34
Yeah, yeah. When it's when it's your own
1:20:36
spot, it's it's amazing. I mean look, I was, I did like
1:20:40
freelance shit work for maybe like 3-4 years and then I was an
1:20:44
apprentice for like 7 years and the whole time was just the main
1:20:49
goal was I want my own place to do my own thing to work how I
1:20:54
want so no one could tell me shit.
1:20:56
So that was always the goal, which I'm sure it was for
1:20:59
everyone who wanted to get into this.
1:21:01
I'm sure you too attest for that because you want to do things
1:21:04
your way and finding the place and the spot and everything.
1:21:09
Sure it's hard but shit always works out.
1:21:12
I. Should always want it.
1:21:13
If you want it bad enough, it's gonna work out it.
1:21:15
It, it always, it always works out.
1:21:18
Listen, like when I when I started this shit, I didn't have
1:21:21
a long term plan. Again, I don't plan long term.
1:21:24
Like we'll, we'll see what happens.
1:21:25
You're preaching to the choir, kid.
1:21:27
I do just a. Long.
1:21:28
Term plan. I think I'm the same one.
1:21:29
Yeah, you're. Playing no long term plans.
1:21:32
Can't forget the main goal. Fun, fun.
1:21:36
That's it. That's it.
1:21:37
Currently, am I having fun? At what point in my life was I
1:21:42
having a better time? If it's not now, there's
1:21:44
something wrong. There's something wrong.
1:21:46
So do you want to have fun? Want to have fun?
1:21:48
Want to have fun? Short term plans to keep having
1:21:50
fun. And if, if I could keep doing
1:21:52
that, great. Amazing.
1:21:54
I always thought I was fucking up because I didn't have a a
1:21:59
business plan. Business plan.
1:22:02
Everything, dude. Everything.
1:22:04
Yeah. Everything you watch, they go,
1:22:06
oh, if you don't have a business plan.
1:22:07
You gotta have your mission statement.
1:22:09
You have to have your mission statement.
1:22:10
And you have to have a mission statement.
1:22:12
No, I never ever done this. I've thought about.
1:22:14
It. That's some big Corp shit.
1:22:16
Yeah, that's some big Corp shit. I thought about it.
1:22:17
But I'm never. I I, I hate all that shit like
1:22:21
anything. Mission statement, I can kind of
1:22:23
get on board with that a little bit, no, but your mission?
1:22:27
Make money, bitch. I nothing, I'm putting up
1:22:31
nothing. I'm doing nothing.
1:22:33
Anything that comes close to to the clerical side of the
1:22:37
business. Thankfully I'm my wife that she
1:22:40
could do all to do all the other stuff because without her it
1:22:43
wouldn't be running. But it would be very difficult
1:22:46
for me to do those things because I just want to work.
1:22:50
I just want to work. You know and like.
1:22:53
I feel like when people are really good at other things,
1:22:58
whether it be the marketing, whether it be the business side,
1:23:00
whether it be the books, whether it be the counts, whether it be
1:23:03
whatever, if they're really good at that, it makes up for some
1:23:07
skill. But if you're really fucking
1:23:10
good, believe me, you don't need any of that shit.
1:23:13
They'll find you. If you're that good, no one is
1:23:16
going to go, oh, I'm thinking about going to him or him, but
1:23:19
he has a better mission statement and he has a Better
1:23:22
Business strategy. No, he does better work.
1:23:25
That's. It no one no one has ever
1:23:28
brought up mission statement when they're looking for someone
1:23:30
to. Do work.
1:23:30
There's nothing about that. If you do good work, you're
1:23:34
good. That's it, That's it.
1:23:36
That's the end of the. Be undeniable.
1:23:38
Be undeniable that's that's the shit once that happens.
1:23:41
Deniable. That is 1000% one of my new
1:23:44
favorite words. I mean, it's true.
1:23:45
That's literally, you know, that's it.
1:23:48
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because with that, I mean, no
1:23:50
one could argue. Yeah, with, with, with you, you
1:23:53
know, I'm. Just we have a lot of similar.
1:23:55
I'm just thinking in my head. No, it's nice to know it's it's
1:23:57
cool seeing someone my wait, are we the same age?
1:24:02
I'm. 34. Oh yeah, we're the same age.
1:24:04
I'm 35. OK, so being someone the same
1:24:06
age doing this shit is so cool. And I think we spoke about this
1:24:09
at my studio when when we were back when I was in my teens and
1:24:17
all that shit. And we're all going to car meets
1:24:18
and all that and everyone's hanging out.
1:24:20
They're all at the meet, they're all standing in their circle.
1:24:23
Everyone's talking about all the shit they want to do, right?
1:24:26
Guess what? All of them are doing something
1:24:28
else now. They all sold out.
1:24:30
And the rare few that made it in this, that made it in this
1:24:34
industry to call it a living, the few, the fortunate.
1:24:37
But it's nice to know there are people like us where we're like,
1:24:41
we're going to make a a living out of out of out of that shit.
1:24:45
And I'm going to have fun every day.
1:24:47
I'm going to have fun every single.
1:24:48
Day, I mean, that was that was my thing too.
1:24:50
My thing was I I hate saying this because I don't want people
1:24:54
to think I think down on anyone, but my thing was I don't want a
1:24:57
boss. Yeah, of.
1:24:59
Course. That was my I.
1:25:00
My whole life has been like trying to get the people above
1:25:04
me out of the way. So at first it's your parents,
1:25:07
then it's your teachers, then it's the police, then it's, you
1:25:10
know, but there's always someone above you.
1:25:13
And there is, yes. Now I have a land.
1:25:15
I always say this. I was like, now I have a
1:25:17
landlord, the state. Now you don't want.
1:25:19
Federal government. All right, So what island so.
1:25:22
Now I gotta get rid of what? Now I gotta get rid of my
1:25:24
landlord. And then?
1:25:26
It's just the state and the federal.
1:25:27
Government that you're not doing anything about.
1:25:29
Never say never. What the fuck, but you know what
1:25:33
I mean. So now, but like, you know, it's
1:25:35
just making those steps like I can get these people out of my
1:25:37
way so I can do what I want to do.
1:25:39
That was. Kind of really is what like what
1:25:42
it kind of comes down to is getting rid of your boss.
1:25:44
Like I forgot where I read it where it says if you could wake
1:25:48
up and choose what you want to do that day, you want you won,
1:25:54
you won. That's that's it.
1:25:55
Regardless what is it doesn't have to be the shit, but if it's
1:25:58
what you want to do. That's a better way to look.
1:26:00
And you can do it. You can.
1:26:02
Because that can work with anyone with a boss.
1:26:04
Like, what do you mean? Like if someone has a boss, it's
1:26:07
like, yeah, but I want to do this.
1:26:08
It's like. OK, then it'll work, but it's
1:26:10
not everyone is meant to be a boss.
1:26:11
Yeah, no A. 100% and that's completely fine.
1:26:15
Yes, there is a lot of bad with it.
1:26:17
I talk people away from it all the time to start their own
1:26:20
business, tell people all the time I go, it's not all the
1:26:24
roses and shit, but. There's actually like a most Mel
1:26:27
Roses I. Was going to.
1:26:29
Say no, no, no. It's.
1:26:30
All fun and games until you have to fucking yell at somebody.
1:26:32
But if you could wake up and you aligned your life in a way where
1:26:36
you could do what you want to do that day, or let's say something
1:26:40
stupid like something short term came up and you, you want to
1:26:43
take off on a Tuesday to do whatever you want.
1:26:46
I'm doing it. I'm not asking another man to
1:26:49
oh, can I take off on? No, no, I'm doing what I want.
1:26:54
I'm doing how I want to do it. And I'm sorry if that sounds
1:26:57
egotistical. I know I feel the same.
1:26:58
Way I'm glad you literally work to go do that that is literally
1:27:03
you build your own empire literally so that you can have
1:27:06
your. I literally like literally named
1:27:11
my business after my goal, super life.
1:27:15
This is going to allow me to live the best life as possible.
1:27:19
This is going to enable me to live the type of life I want to
1:27:24
live. And that's all the goal was
1:27:27
nothing else. I just want to live this type
1:27:29
of. Life, That's exactly what my
1:27:30
goal was. That's what I wanted to do.
1:27:32
I just want that's it. To do what I want to do.
1:27:35
Yeah, when I want to do it. Now, that being said, I don't do
1:27:39
a fucking thing, right, Malcolm I, I'm here every fucking day.
1:27:42
So I, I don't know if I won yet, but it feels like I'm winning
1:27:46
because I if I want to, because sometimes, sometimes I'll be
1:27:49
Today was one of those days. I was here and I was not having
1:27:52
a good day. Who got in trouble?
1:27:53
Who got in trouble? No one, no one ever gets in
1:27:54
trouble here. That's one problem.
1:27:56
One problem. I was sitting there and I was
1:27:59
going, you know, in my head I was like, I could get up and
1:28:02
leave and just knowing that I can do that is enough.
1:28:07
Is a good feeling. That's enough buddy buddy.
1:28:10
Yes, I didn't. I never do Malcolm, but I know I
1:28:12
can do. That you can practice your free
1:28:14
will, yes, without any consequences.
1:28:17
That was the perfect way to say that.
1:28:18
That's that's it. That's really it.
1:28:20
Because I remember when I worked at, I worked at Nissan and I
1:28:23
remember one time I always bring the story up because this is
1:28:25
this is one of those moments where I realized that I needed
1:28:28
to do something else. I think we were going to, we
1:28:31
were going to Super D in California, right?
1:28:34
So I needed like 2 weeks off, right?
1:28:37
Yeah. And I brought that up months
1:28:39
ago. I was like, yo, I'm going to be
1:28:41
taking off a visit. Yeah, we'll, we'll take a look
1:28:43
at it. And in my head I was like, you
1:28:44
can take a look at it. I'm leaving.
1:28:46
Yeah, I'm going to this. So then.
1:28:47
Talk about that month before. I'm like, don't forget, you
1:28:50
know, those two weeks are coming up in like a month or two.
1:28:52
And he's like, oh, OK, yeah, we'll, we'll look into it and
1:28:54
this and that. I was like, let me just stop
1:28:55
you. I'm going to be leaving in in a
1:28:59
month or two, for two weeks. You need to decide if you're
1:29:01
going to fire me or not. Yeah.
1:29:03
And he looked at me like, oh, and I'm like, yeah, it's pretty
1:29:07
easy. Yeah.
1:29:08
Yeah. It's you just got to tell me if
1:29:09
I have a job. Straightforward.
1:29:10
That's pretty much it. So.
1:29:11
You let me know and he's like, OK, we'll, we'll talk about it.
1:29:13
I was like, I'm done talking. I just told you.
1:29:15
I don't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that noise.
1:29:18
There. That being said, that being
1:29:19
said. Show me the respect of of
1:29:21
somebody else. Like no, that being.
1:29:23
Said this guy, probably one of the best supervisors I ever had.
1:29:27
He wasn't the parts manager. He was.
1:29:30
A. Service manager above, he's
1:29:32
above. So he, he, he, he watched me do
1:29:36
it. He let me do it and I had my job
1:29:40
and he, he knew, he knew what was going on.
1:29:42
He was like, you're building your own thing, this and that,
1:29:45
and he let me do it. I saw him, I would say five to
1:29:53
six years later in that supermarket.
1:29:56
I had no idea. Yeah, I had no idea he lived
1:29:58
around here. He said, someone says my name.
1:30:01
I go, what the fuck? I turn around the parking lot,
1:30:02
it's him. I go, holy shit, how are you?
1:30:05
Whatever. He's like, oh, how are you?
1:30:08
He's still the supervisor of some of my own old Co workers at
1:30:10
another dealership now. They all moved.
1:30:12
Yeah. And he goes, Brian tells me.
1:30:17
You have your own shop and everything.
1:30:18
I'm like, yeah, yeah. It's down the street, actually.
1:30:20
Yeah, he's like, Oh my God, I need to come check it out, He
1:30:22
says. You're doing all these things,
1:30:23
this and that. How about that shit feels great
1:30:25
it. Felt amazing you.
1:30:27
Felt great get. The hordes it.
1:30:30
Wasn't it wasn't like a fuck you thing at all.
1:30:32
I respected him the whole time and and I still felt that way.
1:30:35
So now it was more like someone who I respected is now kind of
1:30:40
congratulating me in a way which I don't ever feel like I need
1:30:42
that, but it. It it is nice.
1:30:44
It's nice to hear from especially.
1:30:46
Someone that was over you and seeing where you came from and
1:30:51
where you're at now. I mean, I, I would, yeah.
1:30:54
That's especially. Even talking about it now is is
1:30:56
more emotional than it was in the moment.
1:30:58
But yeah, that is a big deal. Kind of like when you say
1:31:01
something to me because I view you as I don't know, it's like,
1:31:06
you know how it is when you view someone who's in your footstep,
1:31:09
you know what I mean? They're going, they're going
1:31:11
down the same path, yes. Yes, yes.
1:31:13
So you can. It means more, you know what I
1:31:15
mean? Yeah, especially from someone
1:31:19
that's where you want to be or someone that's doing the that's
1:31:23
doing the same thing you're trying to do.
1:31:25
That's side by side. Yeah, it does mean a lot.
1:31:27
Because they know the battle. Yeah.
1:31:29
They know the struggle, Yeah. And they understand that the
1:31:32
risks it took for you to get where you're at and all the
1:31:35
moves you had to make so. Yeah, yeah.
1:31:37
No, that was that was, that was definitely one of those my I
1:31:40
never really think about. That you getting your flowers?
1:31:42
Those are. That's you getting your flowers
1:31:45
without getting a bouquet. Like you got.
1:31:47
One flower and that's yeah, that's sick.
1:31:50
And you could tell he was like excited about it.
1:31:52
And I was like, well, you got to come by.
1:31:53
He hasn't come by yet, but I think he will.
1:31:55
I think he's going to come by the shop and check it out.
1:31:56
There's, there's a couple. There was a couple times where
1:32:00
someone came by my studio when I knew them way back when.
1:32:04
I didn't have any, I didn't have anything to work out of yet or
1:32:07
nothing impressive I've I've done.
1:32:10
And one day when they see it, that perspective of them seeing
1:32:15
you go from this to that and seeing their shock and their
1:32:18
surprise and seeing how proud they are, it's that, it's that
1:32:21
perspective that kind of makes you look in the rearview mirror
1:32:25
as far as how far you came. Because when, when you're in it,
1:32:29
you're in it, you're running. But when someone else comes in
1:32:32
and they will, they, they weren't in the whole journey,
1:32:35
but they rather saw A&B. They're looking like holy shit,
1:32:38
look what you did in this amount of time if it feels good.
1:32:42
Fuck that actually feels pretty relatable because I feel like I
1:32:45
don't go anywhere some days and I'm just sitting still.
1:32:48
But then, yeah. But then you got to think about
1:32:49
where you came from. Yeah.
1:32:50
But then I'm like, I wouldn't fucking know perspective how to
1:32:53
do any of that. Yeah.
1:32:54
Yeah. So when you're when you're when
1:32:56
you're a business owner too, it's like you really are stuck
1:32:59
in that everyday thing. And you always, if you're a good
1:33:02
business owner, you always feel like you're not enough.
1:33:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you always feel like you
1:33:06
haven't done enough, you haven't hit your goals, you haven't done
1:33:09
that. So you never fucking, you know,
1:33:12
smell the flowers or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:33:14
But then you'll get that one customer or like you said that
1:33:16
one person that saw it from the beginning that comes in and I
1:33:20
told him about this the other day.
1:33:22
This guy came in and he starts looking around and he's like,
1:33:26
holy shit. You're like living the dream.
1:33:30
And I was like, and then for a minute I was like, yeah, I am.
1:33:35
I am I. Am there's, There's a couple
1:33:37
times where I'm there alone and I'm working and I don't know, I
1:33:42
guess it just hits a certain moment just hits and whether it
1:33:46
be I'm doing, I'm doing something and I look back and I
1:33:49
see the way the cars are kind of stacked out or, or I see my my
1:33:52
own cars or whatever it is or, and you just like I'm like, oh
1:33:57
man, this feels amazing. Like wow, like and then you
1:34:01
think about the risks and the struggles and the shit you could
1:34:04
tell, you could tell to your older self and you're like, Oh
1:34:07
my God. Ruin it's.
1:34:10
Like damn. No, you're right though, it
1:34:11
does. It does so.
1:34:13
Seeing that is just it hits up times man I think.
1:34:17
That's AI. Think that's something that
1:34:19
happens in your 30s as a business business owner if
1:34:21
you've been doing it your whole life?
1:34:22
I think so, yeah. Yeah, Really.
1:34:24
Because I had. I did not feel this way in my
1:34:25
20s. No, no.
1:34:26
Dude, yes you do. Yes, you.
1:34:28
Do I never did. You just don't remember it that
1:34:30
way anymore. No, no, I swear to God, I.
1:34:32
Promise. No dude.
1:34:33
Last summer. It's different, but we didn't
1:34:35
look at ourselves like we did anything.
1:34:37
Oh, you know what I mean? OK, yeah, like we.
1:34:39
But now I feel like in we're getting to that point where
1:34:44
we're like, OK, maybe we can smell the Rose.
1:34:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, OK.
1:34:47
A little. Bit not to say that it's like
1:34:50
I'm kind of slowing down. Yeah, yeah, to.
1:34:52
Stop. And you know all that, but it's
1:34:56
just, I don't know, I guess. Perspective.
1:34:57
Enjoy the fruits of your labor. Yeah.
1:34:59
Like a little giddy moment room a little bit.
1:35:01
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's times it gets me
1:35:03
emotional where I get really happy of everything that I I
1:35:08
made to live this type of life that I want to live where I I
1:35:13
get really happy again, it gets me emotional.
1:35:15
But I'm so far and few those moments.
1:35:19
I wish there were more often because yeah, there's times
1:35:21
where it's very tricky. But we have to, we have to make
1:35:24
those moments. Yes, yes, yes.
1:35:25
I also make, I mean, occasionally someone will come
1:35:26
in and and it clicks and then you're you're.
1:35:28
Good. I was going to say like when he
1:35:30
said when literally when you said to you don't slow down or
1:35:33
anything, but nothing's slowing down.
1:35:35
It's just that moment happens. Yeah.
1:35:38
I choose to slow down because I'm.
1:35:42
I don't. Ever.
1:35:44
Yeah, you told me this. I'm a spastic motherfucker.
1:35:46
When I start working I will. Well that's going to mess shit
1:35:49
up, man. No, no, no.
1:35:50
Like if something's happening over here and I know something
1:35:56
else can go get work done over there while that's happening,
1:36:00
I'm going to go do it because my time, I'm not wasting it.
1:36:03
I don't want to. Waste it?
1:36:04
No, no, I'd, I, I say this, I, I, I teach this a lot.
1:36:09
Whenever someone works for me is sometimes you have the intent of
1:36:13
being efficient. Sure, where when one thing is
1:36:16
happening, you want to do the other, you want to do something
1:36:19
else, it's fine. But when you're being efficient
1:36:21
and you're trying to be efficient, you can only do so
1:36:24
much. Your brain can only do so much,
1:36:27
especially when you're not amazing at at this one, at this
1:36:31
one particular thing. So when you're doing this one
1:36:34
particular thing, I would tell the guys, I'd be like, no, focus
1:36:38
on this one thing. Don't get lost because then your
1:36:42
mind is here. Oh, I, I hope this thing is
1:36:44
going to, is going to cure properly here.
1:36:46
Oh, but I'm going to put down the body filler here.
1:36:48
And, and then while that's curing, I'm going to send this.
1:36:50
No, you need undivided attention on this one specific thing until
1:36:56
it's right, because otherwise it's going to take you so long
1:36:59
to make that thing right. You need to focus.
1:37:02
Don't get lost. I tell guys all the time when I
1:37:04
say don't get lost, like when you like when you work on this.
1:37:07
Like let's say you're working on a big panel.
1:37:10
Like let's say you're working on a big hood and you want to
1:37:12
straighten the hood out and the guys will start working on the
1:37:15
whole hood at once. They'll start saying, I'm like,
1:37:17
hold on, don't get lost. Work on one section at a time.
1:37:21
I know you want to be efficient. You want to do the whole thing.
1:37:23
Start here, break it all down, then go here, then go here, then
1:37:28
go here. Like break it or else you're
1:37:30
going to get lost. Like I know you want to be
1:37:32
efficient, but efficiency comes with experience and with
1:37:36
experience, you know, OK, I've done this one thing a million
1:37:39
times. I can afford to do this thing at
1:37:42
the same time because I've done it, I've done it a million
1:37:46
times. So sometimes being efficient is
1:37:49
not the best. My dad would would always say,
1:37:52
you know, sometimes when you when you rush and you're not
1:37:56
really in it, the work would never come out right.
1:38:00
And I never thought it to be true until I would stop and slow
1:38:04
down and realize like, oh, shit, OK, yeah.
1:38:07
When he said listen, go to sleep, come back to it the
1:38:11
following day. I bet you you're going to
1:38:12
approach it better. It would be true.
1:38:15
Sometimes it's not good to to burn yourself out.
1:38:18
He. Took this to the next level.
1:38:20
He's got a chair in there. He just sits on the chair and
1:38:22
just looks. What I was gonna say aside from
1:38:27
now I'm gonna be like, fuck, maybe I should definitely slow
1:38:30
down more I. Would slow down.
1:38:31
Slow down. I do stop.
1:38:34
I like to stop sometimes to make sure I turn around.
1:38:38
Does that makes not the turn around turn around, but
1:38:40
literally just to like look at the steps you just took because
1:38:44
there was that yes, I'm I'm scared.
1:38:47
I'm chasing this high that I felt from the car.
1:38:49
Number one, it was a green high, metallic high.
1:38:55
I can only say the color because it was a good friend of mine.
1:38:57
Car look pretty cool, yeah. And like, I didn't know what I
1:39:01
was doing. I didn't know how the fuck the
1:39:03
paint laid on the panel. I don't know how it turned out
1:39:06
shiny. But there was a point in time
1:39:09
where my back patio in my house had so much shit all over the
1:39:14
place, Panels on stands, waiting, This thing I'm working
1:39:18
on, you know, I got fans going. I've my hands are dirty.
1:39:23
I'm looking at myself. And then I'm like, oh, yeah,
1:39:27
yeah, yeah. Chasing this crazy high.
1:39:30
I have a photo of myself like I send it to my mom like.
1:39:33
Look at my little Body Shop. Like I'm just chasing this this
1:39:37
high of like accomplishment, I guess.
1:39:40
And I feel like after that one, I'm like, damn, that next rung
1:39:44
is I want to, I want to just keep grabbing of.
1:39:48
Course, yeah, but I mean. To just get better, even on this
1:39:52
pod I fucking. I'm just absorbing information.
1:39:54
I mean just learning. Yeah, this, this, this industry
1:39:59
sucks, man. It does.
1:40:01
This whole bunch of shit sucks. It sucks, but it's like I'm
1:40:04
having fun, I don't give a shit. Of course that was always the
1:40:07
thing, fun. But there's times I like.
1:40:11
I don't like every step of the process.
1:40:14
What's your least favorite? I really don't.
1:40:17
My least favorite. Has to be sanding.
1:40:19
Come on. I actually like to sand.
1:40:22
Stop, he said it the last. Time I actually like to sand he.
1:40:24
Said it, he said. I feel.
1:40:26
Like I don't believe it or. You said if you come into a.
1:40:29
Long term sanding I. Just to sand.
1:40:31
It's a good day for you. It's good.
1:40:33
Yeah, I. Remember that?
1:40:34
Yeah. Like I like days where like,
1:40:36
let's say like not all kinds of sanding is the best.
1:40:42
Like today I had some wet sand. I don't like that.
1:40:45
I like to shape filler and do all that kind of stuff to sand
1:40:48
body filler and all that. That's that's, that's really
1:40:52
fun. I like that.
1:40:54
But least favorites would have to be all the way at the end
1:40:59
when after it's painted, everything after it's painted I
1:41:06
don't like. Like I sand the entire car after
1:41:10
it's painted, I wet sand the entire car.
1:41:11
I buff, I Polish, I do everything on my own.
1:41:14
That whole process to sand the whole car, buff, Polish and then
1:41:18
assemble without fucking anything up I don't like.
1:41:21
It sounds like most painters hate wet sanding.
1:41:24
I. Don't like Yeah, I don't.
1:41:25
I don't like I I used to have a good friend of mine that used to
1:41:29
work for me. His name is Tito.
1:41:32
He would do all my buffing and all my polishing and it's like,
1:41:36
it was perfect. I was perfect.
1:41:37
I did all the things I like to do.
1:41:38
And the one part I hated he would do.
1:41:41
I was like, dude, you're my white mage dude.
1:41:43
Like no one wants to do this shit, but you're, you're fucking
1:41:45
doing it amazing. And then he's doing his own
1:41:48
thing. So then I'm I'm like, OK, now I
1:41:50
have to do this. I'm like, shit, I hate this.
1:41:53
It is a satisfying process because at the end you see the
1:41:56
shine of all the work you put into it.
1:41:59
Because when you're trying to make a panel straight, you don't
1:42:01
really appreciate how straight it is until it's done.
1:42:04
Everything's shining, you know the sun is hitting it and you
1:42:07
really appreciate it now. So of course it's a very
1:42:10
important process. But I hate, I hate, hate, hate
1:42:13
that process. You, Carl.
1:42:14
I hate it. I so the the shaping part is the
1:42:19
part that I hate. OK.
1:42:20
So you guys are opposite? Only but do you know what I my
1:42:24
we're all different in this room.
1:42:25
My tactic to that you remember how each person can be good if
1:42:29
you're good at all of these things, you're never really
1:42:32
going to be good at 1 Jack of all trades is a master of blah
1:42:34
blah blah blah. A lot of those people, a friend
1:42:37
of mine, Javi, very detail oriented guy, but doesn't know
1:42:42
how to paint, very detail oriented.
1:42:44
Patience level is high. That person, that teammate, that
1:42:50
friend, that that best friend of mine, that's my shaper.
1:42:55
When they're done shaping and they're, they, it's their
1:42:57
standard and they're OK with it and they like it and it passes
1:43:00
their, you know, standard. He doesn't do he doesn't do all
1:43:04
of it, though. He.
1:43:05
No, he doesn't. He doesn't paint or anything.
1:43:07
I'll finish it up. But like the the number one
1:43:10
building, the the panel, the straight structure, that's what
1:43:12
they like to do. That's what they like to work
1:43:14
on. You got to do everything.
1:43:16
Everything from A to BI used to. Everything you have.
1:43:19
To And then I found out he's better at me than it, and then I
1:43:22
crafted all the painting stuff. Saying I mean.
1:43:25
Look, you have to be able to pick it up and do it yourself,
1:43:28
right? I don't like the fact that my
1:43:32
good job is based on someone else being there or not.
1:43:36
I don't like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:43:38
I don't like the fact of if this person doesn't show up now, my
1:43:43
work is going to be a little bit less than what it should be.
1:43:46
It's not You're paying for me like I should be able to do
1:43:50
everything. I don't want work to stop if
1:43:52
someone isn't there. And in The Body Shop world,
1:43:57
there are only body text because they're beds.
1:44:00
And then there's only paint guys.
1:44:01
Then there's only prep guys, then there's only this guys.
1:44:03
Sure, but. This is not a body.
1:44:07
This isn't a Body Shop, you know, and I do.
1:44:09
That's what I was going. To say step one to that's.
1:44:10
More like a business aspect. That's more like an art aspect.
1:44:13
I know he doesn't. He doesn't want to call.
1:44:15
Himself an artist. I don't want to.
1:44:16
Say artist, but I'm going to. Call him an artist, but no that
1:44:18
but so that you remember how I talked to a lot of old heads.
1:44:23
Yeah, old head number, I don't even know, was like, if you
1:44:28
can't go in there into the boot, it was just about painting at
1:44:31
this point. If you can't go into the booth
1:44:32
and pick up the gun yourself and paint something without your
1:44:35
painter being there, then just scratch this whole business
1:44:38
model. Yeah, yeah.
1:44:39
Yeah, and now meaning meaning you should be able to do
1:44:41
everything no matter. Because of the reliance.
1:44:43
Factor everything you. Can't rely on anybody else at
1:44:45
the end of the day like. Look like thankfully that's why
1:44:48
my model can work of having no employees because it it doesn't
1:44:54
matter, you know, it really doesn't matter though.
1:44:57
All the jobs can still get done time wise.
1:44:59
I can still beat a lot of other shops doing doing overall
1:45:03
builds. Not that it's a competition, I'm
1:45:06
just using it as a standard of time that it's not slowing.
1:45:08
Down I was about to say no. No, I, I, I I really don't care
1:45:13
to be better than anyone else. As long as I'm good to me, yeah,
1:45:17
that's fine. I don't give a shit.
1:45:18
And that, that alone speaks fucking waves.
1:45:20
You guys are literally both top tier business owners in my face.
1:45:25
I was. I was going to say I.
1:45:26
Don't know about all that. Maybe not in terms of capital,
1:45:29
sure, but like I'm definitely not you.
1:45:31
I'm not going to turn down a a compliment.
1:45:34
Here's your Flower 1, Flower 2 take.
1:45:37
That shit. Because.
1:45:39
You both stand for what you guys believe in, and that is a
1:45:45
business owner. No, thank you.
1:45:46
I don't dude. I worked for a big company, OK,
1:45:51
the CEO there he was. Literally in the corporate
1:45:54
world. I hated that world because that
1:45:58
CEO sells out to everybody. Where are their beliefs at?
1:46:01
Nothing. That shit is awash.
1:46:04
No, it's completely yeah. K Where?
1:46:06
Where was the thought of money when you started this thing?
1:46:10
Money was a touchy 1 because like you, you, you don't want to
1:46:14
know what what, what What's really fucked up is everyone
1:46:17
would laugh at me because when I was say probably young 20s, this
1:46:23
is when I started to make the choice that I want to do this
1:46:26
for a living and not just make this a side gig.
1:46:29
I always had this one thing I would say where I was like, it's
1:46:33
not about the money, it's not about the money, fuck the money,
1:46:35
fuck the money. I don't care about the money.
1:46:37
I just want to be good at what I do and I want my opinion to be
1:46:40
valued. That's it.
1:46:41
That was always the goal. And then time went on and it
1:46:45
creeped in and I was like, wow, money is really evil.
1:46:48
It really requires a lot of it to get your shit going.
1:46:51
So of course we all need money to get shit to happen and to get
1:46:57
the bills to turn out good, to allow me to do what I do.
1:47:01
But it's a really evil thing because I initially started with
1:47:04
I was like, I don't care about the money at all.
1:47:06
I was like, as long as I do good, it it'll find itself,
1:47:09
it'll find itself to me. Which thankfully.
1:47:11
It's the second time you've said that.
1:47:13
Which one? Everything just works out.
1:47:15
Everything works out. K I'm my mom would.
1:47:18
Always string A and string B and I'm like no.
1:47:21
No, no everything. Like anytime I would get
1:47:25
stressed, my mom would always be like listen just it's OK.
1:47:28
Everything always works out like.
1:47:29
My mom causes my stress. She's literally like, what if
1:47:33
this doesn't happen? I'm like, mom, I'm trying to
1:47:35
think about it. Yeah, his mom.
1:47:37
The way my friends. Are telling me you know.
1:47:39
It it, it, it would cool me down because, you know, I would try
1:47:42
to like think long time. How am I going to do this?
1:47:44
Like just relax. Everything works out.
1:47:46
It's all fine and it does it does.
1:47:50
So money wise, it works out. Like when I got into the studio,
1:47:56
that was in 2020. Never would I have thought we
1:47:59
would be able to buy the property out three years after.
1:48:03
No way. Because I'm like, OK, Because
1:48:05
the initial goal, my initial goal was always OK.
1:48:08
If I could do what I love and just make it by and I could just
1:48:12
make it pay all my bills and just have food and everything,
1:48:15
I'm fine. Ah, dude, please don't say that.
1:48:18
Don't say that. That's my.
1:48:19
That's my. Literal yeah, I'm like, I'm
1:48:21
like, if I could just do this, if I could just do this, please,
1:48:24
I'm fine. And then you finally hit it,
1:48:26
right? You hit it.
1:48:26
I'm like, OK, I'm living it right.
1:48:28
You're like, OK, it's good, all right, it's fine.
1:48:30
And then like you can't be comfortable.
1:48:31
You can never be comfortable When you when you get
1:48:34
comfortable, shit goes flat. So I was like, OK, how can I
1:48:37
like stand my toes? Like, OK, wow, like we could
1:48:40
live off of this. OK, we made it.
1:48:41
I'm doing what I love. I'm I'm making money.
1:48:44
OK, fine, let's do the next step.
1:48:46
Let's do the next step. So like, I didn't plan for any
1:48:49
of this stuff out with the money wise and whatever what I could
1:48:51
do or buy or make the business bigger or whatever.
1:48:54
But it happened, you know, the money was never the goal.
1:48:57
Yeah, not mine either. It was never even a thought in
1:48:59
my head. Yeah, because this is your your
1:49:02
passion. So of course it's not a.
1:49:03
Goal. We already went over the goals.
1:49:05
The goal was I don't want a boss you.
1:49:08
Don't want a boss? That was the only goal.
1:49:09
I want to do what I want. And that's still the only.
1:49:11
Goal. It was never about the money.
1:49:13
Yeah, money sucks, man. It's really, it's really evil.
1:49:16
Bad. It's really evil.
1:49:18
Yeah, Yeah. And like, like back then it, I
1:49:20
guess it was a little bit harder because I would spend so much
1:49:23
time doing this one thing and I'd be like, OK, I painted this
1:49:28
valve coat. If you did this amazing shit,
1:49:29
all this artwork, whatever. OK, $200.
1:49:31
I'm like, Oh my God, this put all these hours, I and I only
1:49:34
charge $200. This, this is wild.
1:49:36
This sucks. And the years go on.
1:49:38
You know, now I'm not worth that anymore.
1:49:40
It's worth a lot more. So money isn't as shitty as it
1:49:44
used to be, but still the goal is still not money.
1:49:48
Especially when you're, when you're starting off, I mean, you
1:49:50
have to make a name for yourself, especially in your, in
1:49:52
your. Especially when you're starting
1:49:53
no. Business side of it too you.
1:49:56
Can't you have to pay your dues? You can't just start off working
1:50:00
on the cars you want to work on and making all the money you
1:50:02
want to make. You can't do that.
1:50:04
You, you, you got to start somewhere, whether it be making
1:50:06
no money or working on shitty cars that you don't want to
1:50:09
work. On, that's where I think like
1:50:13
that's where I think if you don't have fun doing it, you're
1:50:17
going to find out kind of fast. Oh yeah, fun is.
1:50:21
Because imagine if I did maybe last summer.
1:50:24
Imagine if I didn't have fun doing this or this.
1:50:27
Like bro what the fuck what's the point?
1:50:30
Thousands of dollars to fuck what's the point?
1:50:34
Like what am I doing here? What's?
1:50:35
Like what's the point of of of even doing it like?
1:50:39
I guess me giddy is fun. Forget that some people.
1:50:42
Run in some people run into that eventually they go, they go.
1:50:45
They just wake up when they go. What the fuck am I doing?
1:50:47
Because they realize they don't. They're not having fun anymore.
1:50:49
That. That is scary, yeah, and I'm
1:50:53
sure it happens. But you know, someone like me,
1:50:58
I'm speaking for myself, obviously is I love what I do so
1:51:02
much that even on my free time, I'm still looking up and
1:51:05
searching the things, whether it be car pictures or whatever the
1:51:08
hell it may be. I'm still doing it on my on my
1:51:10
free time every single day still to this day.
1:51:15
Today in the morning, I look forward to getting to the
1:51:19
studio. I look forward to, to, to the
1:51:21
next step. I look forward to getting more
1:51:26
closer to the finished projects, to what I envision, to what I'm
1:51:30
trying to make, to whatever it may be.
1:51:32
I'm always excited to get there. And for someone who wants that,
1:51:41
I implore you, keep working. It's worth it, that feeling of
1:51:46
looking forward to your day. Like, do you know how many
1:51:49
people probably wake up and they're, they're just like.
1:51:52
Yeah, that was me when I had a job.
1:51:53
Yeah, they just two months. Ago.
1:51:55
Yeah, that was Carl and that's, I'm glad you brought that up
1:51:58
because that was actually probably the goal of mine.
1:52:01
That was probably the real goal, not a boss.
1:52:02
It was I want to wake up and enjoy going to.
1:52:07
Work. You want to enjoy your day,
1:52:08
Yeah. You want to look forward to
1:52:09
every step of your day. You want to you want to rush to
1:52:12
this one part like I like. I used to work at Kohl's for a
1:52:16
bit, OK. And when when I used to work at
1:52:18
Kohl's, I would have a. Clothing, but the clothing store
1:52:21
yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't paint cars in there.
1:52:23
I. Was there, I worked there when I
1:52:25
was like 1718 or something like that.
1:52:26
So I had like a six hour shift, a like a 7 hour shift, whatever.
1:52:31
I'll never forget getting in there, OK, and being like, Oh my
1:52:35
God, OK, here we go. Here we go.
1:52:36
OK. I got six hours, OK, Six hours.
1:52:39
I would do all this shit. I'm working.
1:52:41
I'm fucking putting clothes away.
1:52:42
I'm helping this out. And I would look.
1:52:43
Five hours left, 5 1/2. Hours.
1:52:45
Left Oh my. God, I was like, how am I going
1:52:49
to do this? And this is just the first week
1:52:51
I'm working here. So now when I'm working, it's
1:52:55
like, OK, I've, I've only been here an hour, right?
1:52:58
I do something. I look, I've been here.
1:52:59
Five hours. Oh my gosh, no, that's the
1:53:01
worst. Yeah, but you had so much to do
1:53:04
that day, so it's. Yeah, completely different.
1:53:06
Imagine the other way every day. Imagine every day trying to rush
1:53:11
8 hours. OK dude, I, I, I wouldn't wish
1:53:14
that on my worst enemy. Dude, that's a prison.
1:53:16
Sentence That was two years ago when we had this conversation.
1:53:20
OK, that this conversation that we had two years ago every day
1:53:25
in the office sitting. Why am I doing this?
1:53:29
Yeah, Carl was miserable. I.
1:53:31
I wouldn't wish that. And I endured.
1:53:32
It. Yeah, you know, there's life
1:53:35
isn't pretty. I got bills.
1:53:37
I don't. I can't just jump ship.
1:53:39
I didn't plan. I didn't think I had to.
1:53:40
I think that's an issue. Doing everything right.
1:53:43
But right is subjective always, but I don't know if if somebody
1:53:48
in there and there are who has like, I hate being in the
1:53:54
office, I hate doing this, I hate doing that.
1:53:57
If you really want it, make a plan.
1:54:00
You're gonna get fired eventually.
1:54:02
You're going to get fired eventually.
1:54:03
Everything's in in your hands. I I, I love when I talk to
1:54:06
people and they, like, complain about life.
1:54:09
And sure, people's circumstances are difficult.
1:54:13
Sure, people are dealt unfortunate hands, I'm sure.
1:54:16
But for the most part, it's in your hands, yeah, it's in you.
1:54:21
It's in your control 1. 1000%. If you're doing something
1:54:24
shitty, don't. It's it's really that, that it's
1:54:32
really that easy. I gotta pee that.
1:54:34
That use a new bathroom if you want.
1:54:35
He's no, he already did. Yeah, yeah, no, that's that.
1:54:39
That two years was the most fucking excruciating shit until
1:54:44
I got to talk to people like a or like Rad Mike or you someday.
1:54:49
Rad Mike was dude, Rad Mike really fucking.
1:54:52
That one was good. That one was good.
1:54:54
This one is turning. Out to be 1 of this is.
1:54:55
One of my fucking favorite ones. Don't tell him.
1:54:57
Don't tell him that. Don't tell him he can't hear us.
1:54:59
He can't get no. More we should put, we should
1:55:01
put speakers outside like they have a Rogan studio so they
1:55:04
can't hear, they can hear the conversation.
1:55:06
No, that's so. Funny.
1:55:07
So you're just, you're talking shit.
1:55:08
No. And they're like, wait, what?
1:55:09
If I'm in there and I'm trying to take a shit, Frankie just
1:55:13
made a bathroom. You made good chunk of that
1:55:15
bathroom that that wasn't a contractor, was it?
1:55:18
Or was that you? No, it was a lot.
1:55:20
Of or you just put the metal. On the wall, we didn't even do
1:55:22
that. I I gave up.
1:55:24
OK, we were going to, but we. OK, so you didn't.
1:55:26
All right, well, there's a bathroom now outside of the
1:55:28
studio, so you don't have to cross into the shop area, thank
1:55:30
God. Which technically was an
1:55:33
insurance liability. Yeah, of course, to think.
1:55:35
About it. So now no more insurance
1:55:37
liability? Yeah, drop the premium.
1:55:39
Drop the Premier, right? Yeah, they should drop the
1:55:42
Premier. I wanted to say so far because
1:55:44
we're what, a couple hours in here.
1:55:45
If you've enjoyed this podcast so far, make sure to drop a
1:55:47
like. Don't forget to keep liking
1:55:49
those. I don't even know what the likes
1:55:50
are out, but you guys have pumped those numbers a lot.
1:55:53
Did you know that there's 500 plus people in the discord?
1:55:56
Whoa. I'm trying to be in there a
1:55:57
couple times a week, but as you can tell from this conversation
1:56:02
we've been having with Super Life K, we're all kind of busy.
1:56:06
So the discord is that are you guys still use that mainly for?
1:56:10
Gaming talking, not just simming.
1:56:13
We play normal video games in there.
1:56:15
OK. Do you play Call of Duty?
1:56:16
I fucking want to do. You really?
1:56:19
Yeah, I do. What console?
1:56:21
But I just don't have any friends that play that shit.
1:56:22
What console do you have? Oh shit, now Malcolm's going to
1:56:25
roast me. Why?
1:56:26
What is it? What is it?
1:56:27
What? Is it I have like an Xbox One I
1:56:28
guess Xbox. 1 isn't that the normal Xbox That's the newest.
1:56:32
But everyone tells me I can't play the new one because it's.
1:56:34
Like the new Call of Duty is probably not your shit.
1:56:35
It's going to fucking sound like a jet plane.
1:56:37
Oh, it's going to. But does that matter?
1:56:40
Like I'll blow it up, I don't care.
1:56:41
You're going to get the red rings or whatever.
1:56:43
I don't fuck I. Don't know, I don't know for
1:56:45
sure but I feel like it might not run it nicely.
1:56:47
Dude, I know Quan just. Try it out.
1:56:50
Quan and Ethan would love to play.
1:56:51
Dude. Quan was in the military.
1:56:53
Yeah, and Andy too. Andy was in the military.
1:56:55
You guys could be talking about guns and.
1:56:57
Shit, I wasn't, but I thought I was.
1:56:58
No, yeah, you probably fucking. I'll play that bitch.
1:57:01
I did when I was young. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
1:57:03
Before I forget this, I just want to say this.
1:57:06
We were talking about enough time in the day or whatnot and
1:57:10
how it flips. So does so does Monday and
1:57:13
Friday. When I come here on Monday, it's
1:57:16
like Friday to me. I'm excited, I'm ready to go.
1:57:19
It's a whole week gap on Friday gap.
1:57:22
I'm miserable. I'm like fuck, now it's the
1:57:24
weekend and I just got to try not to work.
1:57:26
You got to find something. To look forward.
1:57:28
I see. I see.
1:57:29
I I enjoy OK, but working more than.
1:57:32
You got to look forward to other stuff.
1:57:34
Frankie, come on. Don't you feel that like?
1:57:37
That's. It to me every day is kind of
1:57:40
the same now. A little bit, yes, he used to
1:57:43
feel like. Fridays were different because
1:57:44
the weekend or whatever, but. Like if you.
1:57:45
Work. I like to work Saturday.
1:57:47
Yeah, like, yes, I like to work. And Mondays, though I really do
1:57:52
enjoy Mondays. I love Mondays.
1:57:53
Yeah, it's really cool. Especially if you had other
1:57:56
people in there because then it's like, OK, now everyone's
1:57:58
here, everyone, everyone might not be there on the weekend, but
1:58:00
everyone's here on Mondays. So it's kind of like a fresh
1:58:02
start. OK, let's let's kill this week.
1:58:05
Let's fucking you know it's going to be good to.
1:58:06
Really get it done. Yeah, then Friday comes and I'm.
1:58:08
Like I like Mondays. Yeah, yeah.
1:58:10
You just don't like end of the month.
1:58:12
But yeah. End of the month is yeah,
1:58:14
especially for me because I'm, I'm almost more in the office
1:58:18
than anything else right now. Like I'm, I'm and I enjoy that.
1:58:21
I actually enjoy accounting. I enjoy doing all that stuff.
1:58:26
So it's fun for me. Numbers too.
1:58:28
I like doing all the numbers and, and, and hitting certain
1:58:32
goals and stuff like that. But like, even as we were
1:58:35
talking about this, I was like, and you were like, yeah, it
1:58:37
wasn't about money in the beginning, but now it kind of
1:58:38
is. It's like, yeah, but that's only
1:58:40
because it needs. To be, it needs to be.
1:58:42
It needs to be to keep this thing.
1:58:43
Like, yeah, and in my head, that means it's still not really
1:58:45
about money. No, no, it's it just needs to be
1:58:48
about a certain amount of money. You know what I mean?
1:58:50
That's true. Yes, yes, Yeah.
1:58:51
That is a good way to put it because I mean without that.
1:58:54
You can't do anything. We're not going to be doing
1:58:56
anything that that we're talking about.
1:58:58
Like we couldn't, we couldn't do this.
1:58:59
We couldn't have this space for everyone to come.
1:59:01
Like it would not. It would not exist.
1:59:03
So it wouldn't happen. I mean that, that, that goal
1:59:06
though, I feel like, like with, like with anything, though, as
1:59:10
time goes on, I feel like goals change.
1:59:14
I feel like priorities change, responsibilities change, what's
1:59:17
what's important changes. So I feel like the money aspect
1:59:20
is like a fluid thing, whether it becomes important or not.
1:59:23
It becomes important at times to get shit done, whether it be
1:59:25
paying the bills, paying the mortgage, whatever it may be.
1:59:27
But at all the times it's not yeah I like, I just want to
1:59:30
work. Yeah, I just, I don't know.
1:59:32
I was always. I didn't.
1:59:34
I didn't want anything to be about money like that.
1:59:36
I never wanted it to be like that.
1:59:37
It's. It's it's sucks, man.
1:59:39
It's it's sucks, but at the end of the day.
1:59:41
Yeah. But then at the end of the day,
1:59:42
it's like, I don't know if someone comes in here.
1:59:46
And I mean, we already kind of set this place up, our labor
1:59:48
rate. We set this place up so that if
1:59:50
you don't have any money, you do not come here.
1:59:52
Because I don't, because I don't even want to have that
1:59:54
conversation of like, Oh well, my boy can do it for the.
1:59:58
Yeah. No, no, no, no, we're not doing.
2:00:00
That we're that's not where don't come.
2:00:02
Here, but I feel like it gets to a point where when you become
2:00:06
that good that those conversations leave.
2:00:10
I love saying can you beat this price?
2:00:12
Or I found someone else who does it better.
2:00:14
And the labour rate really, really helps with that.
2:00:16
But. Also thankfully, which I don't
2:00:18
have to deal with a lot, I don't have a lot of competition.
2:00:22
I don't have a lot of people that can compete as far as not
2:00:28
skill, but as far as what your. Brain and vision, no one can get
2:00:32
that key. I don't want to hide myself.
2:00:35
No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no gas myself.
2:00:36
Because look over here, I don't we got, we don't got that over.
2:00:39
Here I don't want to, I don't want anything, but there's like
2:00:42
competition as far as not many people do this aspect of work.
2:00:46
So I never really got that kind of argument from the starter
2:00:50
saying this other guy can do it or this other.
2:00:52
Guy. Well, that's good.
2:00:53
There's not a lot of guys, which is fortunate.
2:00:56
And you, you also have your own way of doing it where you're
2:00:59
like, you know, you vet the, the yeah, yeah, yeah, you go to the
2:01:02
process. Yeah, I, I vet the yeah half
2:01:05
because like how we were talking about the, when I'm interested
2:01:08
in the work, it comes out better.
2:01:09
And the other half is just time. I just can't take everything
2:01:12
that comes in. I'm very fortunate and I'm very
2:01:14
happy that the amount of people want to come to me to let me do
2:01:19
what I enjoy doing to what I enjoy doing.
2:01:22
Well, I'm very thankful for that.
2:01:24
But there's only 24 hours in a day, only seven days in a week.
2:01:28
I can only do so much so being I vet them out, I don't get a lot
2:01:32
of those arguments anymore. Those a lot of a lot of those
2:01:35
customers and anymore. So thankfully it's good.
2:01:39
I used to have a lot of friends that would be like, hey, can you
2:01:42
give me like a like a deal, a discount, whatever those are out
2:01:45
the window now because they understand how busy I am now.
2:01:48
It's not just the start anymore. This is literally my livelihood.
2:01:52
But there was one time, I don't know, I just thought about it.
2:01:55
Now, this old friend of mine, he reached out to me too.
2:01:59
This was like years and years back.
2:02:00
I don't even think I had the studio yet.
2:02:03
And he reached out. He wanted me to paint his bike,
2:02:07
tanks, things. So I don't know.
2:02:10
I don't know bike terminology, the tank, and.
2:02:13
Defenders. Defenders and whatever the hell
2:02:16
yeah. Plastics or tins?
2:02:17
That's the only. Two things.
2:02:18
And it was it was like a Harley. So it's like metal shit, right?
2:02:21
So he's like, hey, I want you to paint this.
2:02:24
I said OK. Fine, So I told Peter his name
2:02:28
was Peter. And I was like, yo, Peter?
2:02:29
I was like, I'm going to paint it, but you got to let me do my
2:02:31
thing. He was like, all right, yeah,
2:02:32
cool. It's all right.
2:02:34
So thinking about it, I'm like, all right, this is for a friend.
2:02:36
I got to do good. I got to do whatever.
2:02:38
So then I start, and I guess I went with this weird color
2:02:42
scheme. I don't know why it just came to
2:02:44
me, but it was like a weird color scheme and it was like a
2:02:48
charcoal color with like, and it was like pink, purple and like a
2:02:53
lighter purple. It was like all within this
2:02:55
realm. And then I, I was like, I was
2:02:58
like 50% into doing all, all, all all these patterns and I
2:03:02
didn't send them a picture yet. So I told Peter I was like, oh,
2:03:06
do you want to see the progress? He's like, yeah, absolutely.
2:03:10
I was like, all right, cool. So then I, so then I, so then I
2:03:13
send them the pictures and then he's not responding back.
2:03:16
So I'm like, yeah, what the fuck?
2:03:19
What the hell happened? So then he was.
2:03:21
So then he texts me back. He's like, he goes, I'm not
2:03:24
really a fan of like the colors. He goes, it looks kind of girly
2:03:28
and this and that. And you know, to this day I
2:03:32
apologize to Peter about it because I went off.
2:03:37
He's like a childhood friend, man.
2:03:40
Like we knew each other for so long and I'm like, what the fuck
2:03:42
are you talking about? You could really like you're
2:03:45
going to tell me what looks good?
2:03:47
And I lost on on the phone and I was like, I was like, dude, how
2:03:53
could you tell me? And it pretty much ended with me
2:03:55
saying fuck it, I'm going to erase everything.
2:03:58
I don't give a shit, don't even pay me.
2:03:59
I'm erasing everything. If it's it's it's this or
2:04:01
nothing. So he went bro like relax bro
2:04:04
like what's your problem? Relax says no man, you can't
2:04:08
tell me what to do. So after that he said OK just
2:04:12
continue doing what? What Like continue doing it?
2:04:15
I guess he, like he just wanted me to shut up.
2:04:17
So I. Told you that's your boy.
2:04:19
Don't take. 'Cause he could very finish.
2:04:23
That job and he paid you and. Everything.
2:04:24
So then I finished it and then he came by, he paid me and I
2:04:30
guess he liked it when it was done.
2:04:31
Or he was scared of you. Or or he was scared.
2:04:35
And. Then to this day I'm still
2:04:37
apologizing. I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry.
2:04:39
I like flipped out on you, but that shit won best paint so many
2:04:44
places that shit that that that bike showed at the International
2:04:47
Bike Show at Jacob. Jacob.
2:04:50
Javits, that thing won best paint.
2:04:51
The thing won all this shit. So even though I apologize on
2:04:55
how I approached it, I sound like but I was right.
2:04:59
But you son of a bitch but. I was right.
2:05:02
You know what? I thought this story was going
2:05:03
to go. So I painted a.
2:05:05
Pink, I painted a purple. I did this and then and then he
2:05:07
didn't answer. He stopped answering me and he
2:05:08
just texted me back and goes, bro, I'm in the Hell's Angels.
2:05:12
There's some shit like it's an all black place.
2:05:15
He comes up with a pink bike. No, no, it, it, it looked hot.
2:05:20
But after that, after that time, I'd said I'm never doing work
2:05:22
for friends. Yeah, again.
2:05:25
So I never did work for friends. So everything like that now you
2:05:29
can't you, you can't get the two mixed and involved.
2:05:32
No, because I have a helmet with me where they get the kid.
2:05:34
Kenny Colorado Kenny. Oh yeah, yeah.
2:05:37
I mean, he, he was like. About anything you do for him,
2:05:39
but yeah. I'm gonna just drop it off with
2:05:41
you and just let me know when it's done.
2:05:45
I'm the one giving him updates and shit because I'm like
2:05:47
nervous that that's going to happen.
2:05:50
Something like that. I'm not a painter, I hate it,
2:05:52
but as a customer I would be like.
2:05:55
Let me see. What colours do you like and
2:05:58
what do you hate? Give me, give me something.
2:06:01
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
2:06:03
Well. Probably half of it might have
2:06:07
been my fault, inexperience of having that talk, but like I
2:06:13
don't know it. Was one of your first jobs to
2:06:15
not first, but it was one of your earlier.
2:06:17
It was my first, I'm sorry I'm burping on the mic.
2:06:19
It was one of my first bike jobs.
2:06:23
OK. First, it was like first bike
2:06:24
job. Yeah.
2:06:25
So I didn't really do a lot. And I don't know, I, I, I mean,
2:06:30
you could be calling it an asshole.
2:06:31
I could call it passionate. I was passionate, passionate
2:06:35
about the fact that it needs the pink, man.
2:06:37
It needs the pink. So yeah, I did it and I was
2:06:41
like, I'm never doing work for friends again.
2:06:43
Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's just too much
2:06:45
they. Unfortunately, half my customers
2:06:47
are my friends. I was going to say this is very.
2:06:49
Difficult. This is the first time that
2:06:51
there's somebody's giving me creative freedom.
2:06:53
So like that was I almost kind of want to credit him for making
2:06:57
me feel all giddy sometimes when I go into the booth and have to
2:06:59
like. I mean that is.
2:07:01
And like. To have to do stuff with lines.
2:07:03
Yeah, just something where I'm like, there's nothing on this
2:07:05
helmet and it's a helmet. I mean, look, I mean, thankfully
2:07:09
now it got to a point where people don't even, they'll just
2:07:13
say dude, like, like do anything, do anything you want.
2:07:15
I'm sure I'm going to like it and they like it and it's fine.
2:07:19
But it it wasn't always like that.
2:07:21
I had to have a lot of talks with them.
2:07:22
I had to have update pics. But being that this was a
2:07:25
friend, I was like, I'm not even going to update them.
2:07:27
That was my mistake. I just want to say thank God for
2:07:31
those people that exist that come to you and say just do
2:07:35
whatever you want. I don't.
2:07:36
Care what my. Own yeah 'cause.
2:07:37
I can't even relate to that. I don't even understand that.
2:07:40
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I, I mean, me myself.
2:07:42
I'm so strong about the opinions of what I want on my own thing.
2:07:44
I can't imagine. We all are very.
2:07:46
Opinionated but but but here's the thing though, is those
2:07:49
people understand that they're not as good as at choosing
2:07:53
things as you are. That's like, I don't know me
2:07:55
going to a place that does cabinets for for like.
2:07:59
Kitchen and see, I can relate to that.
2:08:01
What do I know about kitchen cabinets?
2:08:03
Yeah. So you need to take the advice
2:08:06
from the person who knows the kitchen cabinets.
2:08:08
He goes hey you need to pick this because it opens like this.
2:08:10
It works. Yeah, that's a really good way
2:08:12
to put that. So the people that know, they
2:08:15
don't know as much as you, they're not the ones that are
2:08:17
gonna argue with you because they understand from the start.
2:08:20
I'm in here because you know more than me.
2:08:22
How do I get to this point with you and then that?
2:08:26
Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.
2:08:27
I never thought about it like that.
2:08:28
I just thought in my head I was like, Oh well, you own a car,
2:08:31
you're into cars, so that means you know what your car to look
2:08:34
like. But I guess not.
2:08:35
We all know that. Not that.
2:08:37
You know, you can't buy style. Yeah, you can't buy what looks
2:08:40
good. Just 'cause you have it doesn't
2:08:41
mean you're good at it. Yeah, we all, yeah, we
2:08:43
definitely all know. Yeah, people, definitely.
2:08:46
Know that. Yeah, it's do you see cars that
2:08:48
look like shit? Rich.
2:08:49
Doesn't make your car sick. You know what really hurts?
2:08:52
Now I'm seeing a lot because there's so many more imported
2:08:56
cars now. Seeing JDM cars styled really
2:09:00
bad by Americans is just it really hurts.
2:09:05
Like. I really, yeah.
2:09:08
I'm like, I'm like, Oh no, why did you take this and do this
2:09:12
and why did you do this and like really nice cars, you know, and
2:09:16
they just style them very bad. In my opinion.
2:09:19
They're styled very bad. But seeing them, yeah, because
2:09:23
there's, there's so many more important cars now, like
2:09:25
changing cars, seeing them styled bad.
2:09:27
It just proves you can't buy style.
2:09:29
You know, I think we talked about this one other time, but
2:09:31
talking about styles and stuff like that, you know, what kind
2:09:34
of went away that whole like remove my rear bumper and put a
2:09:37
wing on it mounted to the chassis.
2:09:39
Thank God. That kind of went away, thank
2:09:40
God. I mean, I don't know if it went
2:09:42
away, but it definitely died down.
2:09:44
Yeah, I'm over that. And thank.
2:09:46
God, which was. Fun driving down the highway.
2:09:48
I'm trying to think when I What Car I saw last.
2:09:50
Time The worst part about it was they would take off the the the
2:09:53
whole rear bumper, right. They'll put the wing right, OK
2:09:55
that it's it's already bad enough then then the braces.
2:09:59
Yeah. Dude, the the the the.
2:10:00
Braces down. I'm like, bro, where are you
2:10:03
going? It looks like fucking.
2:10:05
What are those britches? Tension bridges?
2:10:07
What's the GW? Bro you got the Verrazano on the
2:10:10
bat. Literally bro, what are you
2:10:11
doing? The worst part about that is, is
2:10:13
when it's drifting too, and you see that motherfucker moving
2:10:16
like this and I'm like, yeah, that's gonna come off.
2:10:20
No suspension bridge. That's what I'm thinking of.
2:10:22
Seeing these trends come and go is really wild, but I'm happy
2:10:27
that one's gone, yeah. 'Cause I'm.
2:10:28
Really happy that one. Someone was talking about that
2:10:30
the other day, like, oh, what, what styles do you think need to
2:10:32
die this and that? And I was like, I was like, I
2:10:34
couldn't really think of anything.
2:10:34
But then I was like, oh, that one actually did die, kind of.
2:10:37
That one died. I'm, I'm, I'm happy that one
2:10:38
died. I'm I'm happy.
2:10:39
The spiked lug nuts. Oh yeah, 3. 26.
2:10:42
Oh God. You're dying.
2:10:45
Yeah. They're, they're, they're,
2:10:46
they're, they're really shitty. I, I remember when I, I think it
2:10:51
was my aristo back in 2013, 2014, something like that.
2:10:56
It was cool to drive without a hood.
2:10:58
Oh yeah, it was take. Off my hood and go through all
2:11:01
this effort. Yeah, just.
2:11:02
Drive without a hood. I'm like, yeah, you're right.
2:11:05
That was a thing, yeah. And and then and then it would
2:11:07
be a thing to to take off the bumper so you could see the
2:11:11
front mount like while driving. It's like, why are we taking off
2:11:14
panels? Yeah, the car to look cool.
2:11:17
I definitely took my hood off when I crashed my shit and my
2:11:20
whole front end was missing. I took my hood off because my
2:11:22
shit was overheating like hell. Yeah, that's why I took my hood
2:11:26
off. No, when you do it for.
2:11:28
And at the trap when. You do it for purpose.
2:11:29
That's different. Now it's lame.
2:11:31
Now it's lame. Like I but.
2:11:33
He's right that people did that. One of the most lamest things
2:11:37
I've I've I've ever done and it's very embarrassing.
2:11:41
To even. Admit is, I remember when I had
2:11:45
again, I think it was my Aristo, I had a fiberglass bumper that I
2:11:48
made and at that point in time, I guess it was cool for the car
2:11:51
to look beat. I was.
2:11:53
Like oh, this, This all came from drifting.
2:11:54
Fucking drifts this shit. Wow.
2:11:56
He's a fucking cool guy, man. Even the hood thing, everything,
2:11:59
everything came. From that.
2:12:00
So I had a fiberglass bumper and I forgot what happened.
2:12:04
It cracked. I hit something and now I know
2:12:07
what he's gonna do and like it cracked and I'm like, I want to
2:12:11
do the zip tie, No. I knew it.
2:12:13
I'm like but it's not that big of a crack yet.
2:12:16
I'm such an asshole I cracked it more just so I could have more
2:12:20
zip ties. On that fucking bumper, Like no.
2:12:25
What the hell was I thinking? Dude, I lose sleep over that now
2:12:29
I think about that. She was years ago.
2:12:30
I'm like, I'm like, I can't believe.
2:12:32
I got the bumper more I've I've done lame shit like that.
2:12:35
I. I recall having this is back in
2:12:39
high school my my second car was a eclipse.
2:12:42
Alright, it was you. Now.
2:12:43
Now, Frankie. I know she eclipsed.
2:12:45
I know it second. Gen. 2nd.
2:12:47
Joe, he loves that second Gen. I love that car.
2:12:49
No way. Terrible.
2:12:50
OK, that sucks, but. 4/4 ball. Automatic 28.
2:12:54
Yeah, Automatic. OK, we're OK. 428, the engine
2:12:58
sits the other way. The engine, Yeah, yeah.
2:13:00
Yeah. It was absolutely ridiculous.
2:13:03
So I saw I had this car and obviously it wasn't manual.
2:13:07
So it was in high school and I wanted the car to look cool.
2:13:10
You know, we're all watching Fast and Furious, we're watching
2:13:12
Tokyo, we're watching all this shit.
2:13:13
I want the car to look cool. We got no money, right?
2:13:16
So I forgot I do something where I, I, I started getting made fun
2:13:21
of the fact that the car wasn't, wasn't a manual car.
2:13:25
So I'm like, damn it, it's automatic, damn it.
2:13:27
So so I put AI put AI put AI, put a shift boot.
2:13:31
No, over it, right? I knew.
2:13:33
It so then I changed the shift knob to look like a manual shift
2:13:36
knob, right. So that's not the worst of it.
2:13:38
So now I'm just you know, I'm driving and I put the shit into
2:13:41
DI got I freaking go 12-D22D right, just getting worse.
2:13:47
I'm doing all this shit and then what's cool is like when, like
2:13:50
when the car is parked, people look inside like, Oh, this
2:13:53
shit's manual. So whatever, fine.
2:13:56
One day I'm at I'm I think I'm about to leave school or
2:14:01
something like that and a couple friends see me and they're on
2:14:04
the corner and they're like they're like, oh, this shit is
2:14:07
cool. Oh, it's stick.
2:14:08
I'm like, you know yo the shit I do right I'm.
2:14:12
Like oh, this shit is fire. What?
2:14:14
So, so I'm like, yo, so then they're like, yo, we need a
2:14:19
ride. Can you just take us, my God?
2:14:21
So now I'm like, Oh my God, what am I going to do?
2:14:23
What am I going to do? Right.
2:14:24
So then I'm like, okay, yeah, cool, jump in.
2:14:26
So the dude sits in the front. So I'm trying to hide the fact
2:14:30
that there's no clutch pedal. So I'm like, you know, just fuck
2:14:34
it. And I'm like, I'm just doing
2:14:35
like I'm just dropping the shit into gear, the things going up
2:14:38
and it's taken off and, and he's like, he's like, yo, like you
2:14:42
gotta work on, you know, taking off from the clutch.
2:14:43
I'm like, yeah, no, you know, you know, I'm still trying.
2:14:45
I'm still trying to figure out. And he's like, he's watching me
2:14:47
going from like 1:00 to 2:00 to D to fucking this.
2:14:51
And like, and like we get there and like I put the shit in park
2:14:54
and he's like, and I'm like, Oh no, I just, I put it in, you
2:14:58
know, I put it in 3rd, you know, it's just, you know, whatever.
2:15:00
And like I pulled a handbrake up and shit and then they like left
2:15:04
and like obviously I, I don't know if they knew, but but they
2:15:07
didn't say anything. But I think back I'm like, damn,
2:15:09
that was so cheesy. I can't believe I was pretty
2:15:12
impressed Once you're all. Got away with that.
2:15:13
I pulled it off. I'm literally sitting there
2:15:16
dropping this shit down. I'm just, I'm like, Oh my God,
2:15:19
it's horrible. Funniest story?
2:15:21
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was pretty embarrassing and
2:15:23
like. That just got worse and funny.
2:15:25
Enough everyone has a story like this because we all did corny
2:15:29
shit. I Yeah, yeah.
2:15:31
Drilled holes into a stock exhaust to make it sound more
2:15:34
loud and all that shit. We all did really lame shit.
2:15:39
But now looking back at it, it's just, you know, it's a stupid
2:15:42
funny story that. Story's amazing.
2:15:44
God damn I. Had to pull it off and like I'm
2:15:47
like you know how I do it as soon as.
2:15:50
Soon as. Cuz technically you didn't say
2:15:52
no. You didn't say yeah either.
2:15:54
Like yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as you said it was an
2:15:58
auto, I was like, Oh no, he's putting a boot on it.
2:16:01
He's putting a boot on it. Crown Royal shift?
2:16:04
Boot I. I had an ex-girlfriend that had
2:16:06
an Integra like that and it had. A boot and I was like, what the
2:16:09
and you know, the worst part about it is that wasn't like the
2:16:11
like the only time, like I had so many cars that were not
2:16:16
manual that I tried to make look manual.
2:16:19
Putting the boot over I, I had a bug eye.
2:16:21
I had AI had a WRX and I wanted it to be manual so bad.
2:16:27
I, I didn't get it manual. I didn't know how to drive
2:16:29
manual. So I just put a shift boot over
2:16:31
and I, I, I the vents and meets it would look all right, but
2:16:34
anyone in the car, it was just the most embarrassing thing
2:16:36
ever. Yeah, my cousin and I put a lot
2:16:39
of shift boots on automatic cars.
2:16:42
God that that very embarrassing that you're building some of the
2:16:44
best looking. Cars.
2:16:46
I've ever. Seen.
2:16:47
Yeah, that was just. Manual shift.
2:16:49
Boots on automatic cars Some. Of.
2:16:50
Some people from around the world and possibly in the US are
2:16:54
probably like, God damn it, what the?
2:16:58
Hell, if you were wondering why all those fucking automatic cars
2:17:00
had shift boots on them. Dude, that was me man.
2:17:04
Also, if you're wondering why the cars look so good now that
2:17:07
you're creating is it's 'cause you came from stuff.
2:17:09
Like that 'cause we fucked up so many.
2:17:11
Cars like. Dude it's just we fucked up so
2:17:14
many cars. I think about it like like my
2:17:18
like my cousin bought a brand new Scion PC back in.
2:17:23
Oh no. In. 2016 when?
2:17:25
It was hot, yeah. 111. Commercial.
2:17:28
The commercial you could monitor and share.
2:17:30
The commercials. Were good like dude, the shit
2:17:31
had like under 500 miles on it. We drilled holes into the trunk
2:17:35
to put like a spoiler and A and a spoiler.
2:17:38
I'm like, dude, we put neons under the car and we don't know
2:17:42
how to wire up the thing. So the way we would turn on the
2:17:45
neons, we we would open up the Bay and we would stick the wire.
2:17:48
Into the on the battery, yeah. Yeah, and then close the hood
2:17:51
and then just start. Driving when they were actually
2:17:53
neons too, and that. Was actually when it was a neon.
2:17:55
Yeah, it was like the hard. Strips, yes.
2:17:57
Yes, the hard strips. It was sick.
2:17:59
Wild. Why, Yeah, it was like we fucked
2:18:02
up a lot of cars, but you fuck up cars and you learn how not.
2:18:06
To fuck, of course. Yeah.
2:18:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I had orange wheels.
2:18:10
Ohh that's that's that's not bad.
2:18:12
I had pink wheels on my. That was.
2:18:15
That was a. Fit no, no, no.
2:18:17
The the the, the fad was a teal like it was Tiffany blue.
2:18:22
Yes, you remember, that was the thing.
2:18:23
Everybody started spray painting their wheels Tiffany blue look
2:18:27
any type of colored. Wheels now I think is just.
2:18:31
I only like them absolutely. Yeah, I'm not a highlighter
2:18:34
neutral color. I don't get that.
2:18:36
Silver. Not really black wheels.
2:18:40
Wheels I'll always love. Bronze, but yeah, the the
2:18:42
catalogue colors, yeah. I like that.
2:18:44
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not a fan of my collar wheels.
2:18:47
And back then we would just spray paint all the stock wheels
2:18:49
just like. Yeah, spray bottles, you know.
2:18:51
Gold or whatever plastic dip. Yeah, you.
2:18:54
Fucking how? Many.
2:18:55
Cars we fucked up with mine. Yeah, people who painted.
2:18:58
The whole car. Actually, I feel so though I, I,
2:19:01
I now know like I'm so happy I didn't dip my car when I when I
2:19:06
wanted, when I wanted to, because there was that site dip
2:19:10
on your. Car.
2:19:11
Yeah, literally. So gay dude?
2:19:12
Yeah. It's ridiculous.
2:19:14
That's what I did. I had orange dip wheels.
2:19:16
Made. Now I know anybody who dipped
2:19:18
their car. They ruined their car.
2:19:20
Yeah. There was no way that she was
2:19:21
peeling off. Dude.
2:19:22
It's. So.
2:19:22
Long, yeah. We had a car in here that was
2:19:24
plastic dipped and I was like fuck, we gotta take this whole
2:19:27
thing have. You ever seen a Plaza zip car
2:19:29
get dirty and how bad it looks? So bad.
2:19:32
It's all grippy. It's very grippy, You.
2:19:33
Can't wash it you. Yeah.
2:19:35
Like it's just the worst. I spread the dirt around.
2:19:37
It's I, I, I, I knew someone that dipped their car and they
2:19:41
went to get a car wash and the way the thing looked coming out
2:19:44
of the car wash was just like a joke it.
2:19:46
Was like nothing more and more dull just like.
2:19:48
Shit, yeah, it just looked like. Shit.
2:19:50
And then vinyl came out and we still feel the same way about
2:19:52
that. Vinyl.
2:19:53
Just kidding. Just kidding.
2:19:54
One of our spots. Vinyl, Vinyl and paint is a big
2:19:57
argument. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, the. 13
2:19:59
that I painted Ethan's it's like that Subaru color that had the
2:20:04
you replaced the door and when I was going to go prep the door, I
2:20:08
like rubbed it and I was like no.
2:20:10
No. No.
2:20:12
Is this plasty dip on here? Oh yeah, dude.
2:20:15
So then we had to sit there. I'm like, no, you're going to
2:20:18
peel. You're going to do?
2:20:20
Yeah, You brought. Me this.
2:20:22
And like what you learn is the more plastic that you put on,
2:20:25
it's, it's more, it's the more you put on, the faster it comes
2:20:31
off. Yeah, people don't think that
2:20:33
because so people don't put a lot.
2:20:35
And when you don't put a lot, it's harder to come.
2:20:37
Off and. Then you essentially mess up
2:20:39
your whole car, your whole outside, and it doesn't peel
2:20:41
right and it leaves residue. It's it's really bad.
2:20:44
People leave how big of a thing that was?
2:20:45
Yeah, it's gone. It's nice to see how far we
2:20:48
came. As a.
2:20:49
Species yeah I bet that guy's forearms are huge though on
2:20:53
where the the the dip your R the dip your car that's.
2:20:56
Still a big thing like. I don't know.
2:20:58
I Malcolm, can you? I think it's still a thing and
2:21:01
like the. Spokesperson was ripped.
2:21:03
All I know is I'm like why has this guy got huge forearms
2:21:06
trying to sell me? Plastic.
2:21:07
It's probably still a thing in like, look at this, like away
2:21:11
from the coast. There you go.
2:21:12
I mean, listen, I feel bad now because this.
2:21:15
Guy's 15. This guy's trying to make a
2:21:16
living and I'm over here shooting on his thing.
2:21:18
Hey man, we're a safe space. We're pretty far into the pod
2:21:21
right now. I don't think Fonzie Fonzarelli
2:21:23
has given us fucking IS. Is that what his name?
2:21:25
I think that is because I told that from a core memory.
2:21:28
I think that was really weird because I don't I don't remember
2:21:32
that time. Imagine go up, go up to the
2:21:33
center wheel. Imagine positive in that and
2:21:35
trying to take it off there's. Pearls and tints.
2:21:38
Dude they got color shift pearls I think that's.
2:21:41
Nuts is. It is the paint glossy yet?
2:21:44
Did we get to that? There's a, there's a, there's a
2:21:45
clear. Yeah, they have a.
2:21:46
Clear that you could put. Where is it?
2:21:49
And the clear makes it shiny. So they sell Hyper Dip and they
2:21:52
sell plastic. Auto flex Check Auto Flex
2:21:55
Malcolm to the right. I don't know that.
2:21:56
Most like a tab. Watch this.
2:21:59
Oh no, it doesn't have anything. Pictures.
2:22:01
Base coat, get the hell out. Of here Nah man none.
2:22:04
I may but look sold out so. You're right.
2:22:07
Clearly, people are buying. Yeah, I get it clear.
2:22:10
That's crazy. People are buying this shit,
2:22:13
yeah, but that was the thing, man.
2:22:15
There was that was really a lot of trends that we've.
2:22:19
Look at the finish on the on that one like the one the guys.
2:22:22
Can tell it's shitty from here. Yo, this guy's spraying with the
2:22:25
home. No, that's what they spray it
2:22:27
with. Oh yeah, is.
2:22:28
It it doesn't require like yeah. That's like home paint.
2:22:31
It doesn't require to get thrown at the panel at like a rate, I
2:22:35
guess that hey man, they managed to build a market on it and
2:22:40
they're probably kind of rich look.
2:22:42
So. Yeah, yeah.
2:22:43
I mean for. Sure, but like we said, you go
2:22:46
to. Yeah, money ain't a thing.
2:22:48
No, I'm, I'm, I'm sure they're still making a living and doing
2:22:51
their thing because there's still people that don't want to
2:22:54
pay the obscene amount it is to restore their car and paint and
2:22:57
all that shit. They want to do something
2:22:58
themselves. Fine, but you have to be, you
2:23:03
have to understand it's not going to look as good as it
2:23:06
would you would look as. Good.
2:23:07
Just know what you're signing up for.
2:23:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's.
2:23:10
Kind of like, I don't know. Dude, I remember when that shit
2:23:13
came out I think. I remember too, I don't know
2:23:16
about when it that. Was a huge fucking deal.
2:23:19
It was like you can paint your car and not have it be
2:23:21
permanent. And now that's vinyl and it
2:23:24
looks a lot better, but I still feel like vinyl is no.
2:23:30
No in my. Eyes.
2:23:32
And if you if you realize what you just said, it went from dip
2:23:38
to vinyl. Both things being temporary.
2:23:42
Everything that tries to fill its place is a temporary mod Is
2:23:47
something temporary to the car where you have the possibility
2:23:50
to somehow take it off down the line.
2:23:53
Anytime something is temporary, it's never going to look as good
2:23:56
as a permanent addition to the car.
2:23:58
So those temporary things like tip and wrap and all that, not
2:24:05
shitting on it again, just not my, it's not my preference.
2:24:08
It's not going to allow the car to look as good as it can be.
2:24:11
You know that that that's just it.
2:24:13
But I'm sure if you see the Sema build and you go to see, you'll
2:24:17
see shit like that and it'll still be up there, you know,
2:24:20
like not taken away from that. To me, I don't know when I see a
2:24:23
wrapped car like I'll just open the door.
2:24:26
Yeah, yeah, I'm but what I'm seeing now, I would use that as
2:24:30
but but the argument but now people are.
2:24:33
They wrapped their jam. If I can open that door up and I
2:24:36
can't tell that the car is vinyl wrapped, yeah, that's pretty
2:24:39
fucking amazing. But I've had seen like they
2:24:41
fucking. Get they get into.
2:24:43
The gyms. They know I might be looking a
2:24:45
little differently than the normal person.
2:24:47
I mean like I'm going right to a.
2:24:49
Not even opening the door when I look at like, let's say a car
2:24:52
has the roof from the pillars, yes, into the quarter without
2:24:57
any kind of break in the middle and there has to be a seam
2:25:00
somewhere in the vinyl. I'm going to spot that seam and
2:25:04
I see it because it's right on top, whether it be the quarter,
2:25:06
whether it be whatever. There was this FD once at this
2:25:09
show and it looked really nice and F DS have it's like a it's a
2:25:14
seamless flow from the roof all the way into the pillars into
2:25:17
the quarters. And unless you do it in one
2:25:19
piece, you're going to have a seam right, right at the
2:25:22
pillars. And I was 5 feet away, 10 feet
2:25:25
away. I I could have already spot it.
2:25:27
And that seam is just a killer that kills me.
2:25:30
That's the real thing. I totally agree with that.
2:25:33
Like right there, yeah. And I don't know, it's like open
2:25:37
the hood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
2:25:39
Are you gonna are you gonna remove the engine, remove all
2:25:41
the accessories and vinyl wrap the engine Bay and put that all
2:25:45
back I. Just don't imagine if you're
2:25:46
not. Then we're done.
2:25:48
I don't like that because then bro there's chemicals and shit
2:25:52
in there. Paint will sometimes fuck it.
2:25:54
I don't clean it. You know what I mean though.
2:25:55
The fact. That you could clean it and you
2:25:58
can repair it. Yeah.
2:26:01
I like that. Yeah, yeah.
2:26:02
But some people, you know, some people don't.
2:26:04
Some people don't look at the details like we do.
2:26:06
So yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're like, oh, I want a
2:26:07
different colored car right now, OK.
2:26:09
Just a general thing, yeah, that's why you see a lot of high
2:26:12
end cars go that route over painting because.
2:26:15
You're gonna ruin the car. Yeah.
2:26:16
Yeah, you don't. Want to load the car?
2:26:19
You're wrapping 20 to 30,000 Lambo or.
2:26:22
Just wrap the Aventador. It's wrap the Lambeau, it's got
2:26:25
Ferrari wrap, whatever you gotta wrap.
2:26:27
Don't ruin it like that. That makes more sense, but.
2:26:29
When it comes to other cars, like if someone wants to fully
2:26:31
do someone wants to Crestora R34 and they want to do it right, no
2:26:37
one's going to go through all that process at the end of
2:26:39
Rapids. Like, come on, it's a GTR.
2:26:42
Let's let's do it right. It's a, it's a proper car.
2:26:44
So when it comes for, for things like that, there's no other
2:26:47
option than paint. No one's going to go through all
2:26:50
that work, do all that bodywork and then and then wrap the car.
2:26:52
At least not anyone I know. No, I don't know anyone who
2:26:55
would take the engine out there's.
2:26:56
Also just like the the overall like presentation, I guess, or
2:27:02
like I guess what that product has to stand for.
2:27:05
Like if you saw a there's like this old low rider called the
2:27:09
Gypsy Rose. I heard it's like a it's a low
2:27:12
rider that has like, I forget, bring that up.
2:27:14
I forget how many roses are on it, but there's a lot and it's
2:27:16
and they're all hand. You've probably seen this car,
2:27:19
too. Honestly, I think I know What
2:27:20
Car you're talking about. It has a whole lot.
2:27:22
On their side is done too, and there.
2:27:23
Was tons of roses. I forgot the count.
2:27:25
It's like hundreds. Yeah, this car is famous for for
2:27:28
the paint. Job the Gypsy rose.
2:27:29
No, it's famous. It's called the Gypsy Rose
2:27:31
because it was on a show called Gypsy Rose.
2:27:33
Oh, oh, I see this and it was on the show for two seconds,
2:27:37
literally. So they call it the Gypsy Rose.
2:27:38
But like the what this has to stand for is like, I don't know,
2:27:45
like somebody did that and old school way did that, which was
2:27:51
painting. And I'd like to see a rap look
2:27:55
like that, or have the OR hit the same, or have the weird
2:27:58
imperfections in it that make it paint.
2:28:01
Well, who the fuck? Is drawing that on a rap then
2:28:03
you? Just here's the thing though is
2:28:05
you can wrap that though you can exactly that.
2:28:08
Yeah, but the problem is when you go up to it and you look at.
2:28:11
That's the thing. Yeah, it's not going.
2:28:12
To hit you know what it what it really comes down to is not the
2:28:17
look of it if we're talking real like is not the look of it
2:28:21
because let's say rap has gone so far you could print that out
2:28:24
OK and wrap the car. So what it really comes down to
2:28:28
is, is credit to the work and the time invested.
2:28:32
Because when you go up to it and you see all the work, all the
2:28:35
layers, all the paints, all the hand stuff, you're like, wow,
2:28:39
that wow factor of investing that time is why it's what it
2:28:43
is. Because you could print that
2:28:45
out. You could print the roses out,
2:28:46
print whatever. But once someone goes up to the
2:28:48
like, oh, it's a sticker and then and then and then they're
2:28:50
gonna walk away. It's done.
2:28:51
Loses it, but if you go up to it, you see it's paint.
2:28:53
Guess what someone's gonna be there for for for 20 more
2:28:57
minutes for. For 1/2 hour.
2:28:58
They're gonna walk around the car.
2:29:00
At least someone who cares. They're gonna walk around the
2:29:02
car. They're gonna look at
2:29:02
everything. Not looking for imperfections.
2:29:04
They're gonna look at every. Rose on that car, they're just.
2:29:06
Gonna wow. So every flower on there is not
2:29:09
the same like, because somebody had to draw it.
2:29:12
Yeah, yeah. And brush it, airbrush it on,
2:29:14
and then move down the entire fucking car in this whenever
2:29:18
this car was made. But like you said, if you saw it
2:29:20
and it was vinyl, it's you would just kind of.
2:29:22
Attention to detail like you. Just kind of walk away.
2:29:25
It's a sticker, yeah. Like it's not a perfect I.
2:29:27
Love that the sides are not equal.
2:29:29
It's nothing on. It is perfect, which is what
2:29:32
tells me it's paint. Somebody took some time to do
2:29:34
it, and that was during an era where they, you know, painting
2:29:38
techniques have probably changed a little bit since then.
2:29:40
Products have changed since then.
2:29:42
Like it's just neat. Like I don't.
2:29:44
Know it's. It's a different style than what
2:29:46
I like. And I had recently done this art
2:29:49
piece for a valve cover. It was for.
2:29:51
It was for RB26. It was styled after R2.
2:29:57
Oh, I think I. Saw it.
2:29:59
From Starwood, yeah, yeah, there you go.
2:30:01
So it took me a long time to do everything.
2:30:04
I I was looking at everything and I wanted to apply it right.
2:30:07
I wanted it to speak for itself as far as what I went for.
2:30:11
Now, when I posted this on, I think it was on on Facebook, on
2:30:16
Facebook is really screwed up with like the comments.
2:30:19
People are really, really fucking angry.
2:30:21
So people were like, oh, what a waste of time.
2:30:24
You could have just gone that printed out and like it's like
2:30:27
dude, you're missing the point. Though what are they saying the
2:30:29
hydro dip it or whatever? Yeah, it's because because it's
2:30:32
possible. Just because it's possible
2:30:35
doesn't mean it's the only alternative.
2:30:37
Yeah, but where's the cool? Fact like like like look how.
2:30:39
Sick. That is like, like damn that.
2:30:41
Looks. Sick all that tape work like if
2:30:43
you go one back just laying all that shit down to figure what
2:30:48
colors are going where, that's the most fun.
2:30:51
That's the most fun. Yeah.
2:30:53
So doing this shit is why the end result is impressive.
2:30:58
Now someone could have printed it out and applied it, but once
2:31:01
you see it, it's like, oh, it's a sticker and they're and then
2:31:03
they're just going to walk away rather than saying oh, it's
2:31:06
paint and like, holy shit, this guy went through every square
2:31:09
and did all the different lines and did did did look like I like
2:31:12
I had to make the middle even though it was flat.
2:31:15
I had to make it looked like it was fence so so I would apply
2:31:19
the lines and make it look like it was fading to make each event
2:31:22
look like it was a part to make it look like there's some depth
2:31:24
to it like it's going down. You know I.
2:31:26
Love this, this is great. I'm also a star.
2:31:28
Wars. I Remember Me and Diego saw this
2:31:30
on your page and we were just like man, how the fuck does he
2:31:33
come up with this stuff? Man, well, in all fairness, the
2:31:39
the customer was like, here's what I want.
2:31:42
Just do this. I want a theme like this.
2:31:44
Do whatever you want. Look at the events.
2:31:46
It's fun good. For you, I don't know.
2:31:49
Yeah, yeah, you gave up, but that was fun 22.
2:31:52
Things to say to that. The people in those comments on
2:31:54
Facebook, that's the kind of world we're living in right now.
2:31:56
Yes, where they care, but but we could.
2:31:58
Do so much cheaper, easier. You could really tear apart
2:32:01
someone not only having a fun time making a living.
2:32:05
They don't care about it. Creating shit like oh just print
2:32:07
it dude you're an idiot. Yeah, they don't care about it.
2:32:10
You're. An idiot.
2:32:11
What about that little cat you used to cover the what is that?
2:32:14
The CAS? The So what was that dash train?
2:32:17
Or no, that cap is for RB20 fives that want to run the Cam
2:32:26
for because there's a Cam on that side where you get to run
2:32:32
their version of VTech, which is the the Neo and the neo to run
2:32:38
that because because it's ARB 26 the cover, it's going on an RB25
2:32:43
for it to fit that part had to be had to be.
2:32:46
Like it had to be. Extended out for it to have
2:32:49
space on the inside for it to clear.
2:32:50
So they sell that and you get to put it on your on your RB26.
2:32:55
So being it was on there and I'm like, you know what I'm going to
2:32:57
mold it on there and I'm not and I'm going to implement it into
2:33:00
the styling to make it look like it was part of it and it works
2:33:03
with the theme. It works with the theme that
2:33:06
that Dome looking thing worked. It looked like an R2.
2:33:08
I love it RB. 2 gave her a little story for Kay to be like,
2:33:13
yeah, I was sitting at my desk. There was this bull, next bull
2:33:16
and. I just.
2:33:17
Put it on because I had a friend tell me something bullshit like
2:33:20
that too, where it's like, yeah, I was just in my kitchen and
2:33:23
here it is. I'm like what the?
2:33:25
Heck. No, no, that was for to run
2:33:28
their Neo. But just know, I hope you do
2:33:31
know this, that people like us and others alike all thank you
2:33:36
for doing stuff like this. Oh no, thanks for the interest.
2:33:39
Man, and making stuff and then giving us like some sort of
2:33:43
thing to work towards, to be better, to be better than you, I
2:33:48
mean. The 12,000 people that like.
2:33:50
Yeah, like parents, like what you told people.
2:33:52
That hated it on Facebook. Like what you told Nakai.
2:33:54
Like you're gonna be better than bro.
2:33:56
I told her yeah. I was like.
2:33:58
Dude, I was like, I'm, I was like, I'm going to be better
2:34:00
than you. I was like, I work 100 hours a
2:34:02
week so I could beat you. And yeah, it's the reason why
2:34:04
people good hopefully. It keeps growing.
2:34:06
Like this and. Everyone I teach, I, I always
2:34:09
tell them I'm like, because they'll say something like like,
2:34:12
OK, I want to do what you're doing because we all have
2:34:16
someone that we look up to. When I was 18, I looked up to
2:34:19
someone who was doing whatever it was.
2:34:20
So these young kids when I helped them and like I wanna do
2:34:23
that. I like, I wanna do what you're
2:34:26
doing. I was like, no, do more than me,
2:34:28
dude. That's the way shit gets better.
2:34:30
Don't be like me, be better than me.
2:34:33
Everything here, if someone taking inspiration from it and
2:34:36
they wanna do it and be better, fuck it, take it dude, beat me.
2:34:40
Please take it. Amazing, amazing.
2:34:42
Especially if they used me as inspiration to be good, even
2:34:46
better. Man, That's that's winning.
2:34:48
Dude, that is it's winning when you do, when you post and share
2:34:51
your work like that. That shit fucking keeps us
2:34:53
going. I.
2:34:53
Think we need Kay to come by once a year at least?
2:34:56
Yeah, because then I can check in we get.
2:34:58
We got, we got some motivation and everything, you know, I
2:35:01
mean. I don't want to sound like a,
2:35:02
like a like a like I preach. I don't want to sound like that
2:35:06
at all. No, but it's nice.
2:35:07
It's nice. Thinking out loud.
2:35:08
You're saying you're? Saying like minded people.
2:35:10
So it's I like. Having all the good things, man.
2:35:13
I like the conversations we have, like there, Yeah, because
2:35:15
then you have a you're talking. I can fucking sit and.
2:35:19
Yes. And it's not many times I get to
2:35:21
sit and talk about this kind of stuff.
2:35:23
I think we were talking about the last time because I don't.
2:35:27
I don't go to a lot of events or meets or car shows, whatever.
2:35:30
It might be a little busy now. The social stuff is very
2:35:32
difficult for me, so it's, you know, he said.
2:35:34
That last time we were doing the video, he said social things are
2:35:37
hard for me. I was like, well, you just
2:35:38
killed this video and he he always kills it on podcast.
2:35:41
You guys I'm. Like the last time, I don't
2:35:43
really talk guys. I'm not an owner.
2:35:45
Yeah, I'm not really a social. As a whole, RTD too.
2:35:48
Yeah. No, I, I've, I've, I've always
2:35:52
liked to be alone and do my own thing and I don't have a lot of
2:35:56
social interactions. And I feel you.
2:35:58
I guess then like the couple times I go to an event, a car
2:36:01
event, I don't get a lot of it because I want to talk shit like
2:36:04
this and people want to talk about other things that don't
2:36:06
matter, which I don't want to talk about.
2:36:08
So it's nice to have conversations like this.
2:36:11
Where you can actually talk. Or I could talk about stuff that
2:36:14
is going on, stuff what I'm thinking, where we came from,
2:36:17
where we're going. I feel like most conversations
2:36:20
now is like, yo, that video's sick.
2:36:23
Yeah, that's like and it's like. Yo.
2:36:25
I'm not sure if if if you saw this post, but dude cares about
2:36:30
this. Yeah.
2:36:31
So look at this. Look what I did.
2:36:32
Like, what did you do? What did we do?
2:36:34
What did? This or like, no, this is what
2:36:36
this is what it is nowadays. Yo, look at this meme.
2:36:38
Yeah, yeah, that's that's literally that's 2024.
2:36:43
That's like 2025. That's it.
2:36:45
Meme meme. These events are very difficult
2:36:47
and you know, it's, it's, it's funny because like I get invited
2:36:52
to go to meets or shows or events or whatever may be, and I
2:36:56
don't go. And I, I, I always think it's
2:36:59
bad for business because I should go out there.
2:37:01
I should be, you know, networking and talking to more
2:37:04
people, but at the end of the day, I want to be true to
2:37:07
myself. This is why I got to do what I
2:37:09
do. What I'm doing, why I'm doing
2:37:11
it, is to do what I want to do and I want to work.
2:37:14
I think it as long as you're as long as your work is out there.
2:37:17
Yes, exactly. You don't need to market.
2:37:19
That's that's my piece of mind. As I'm saying, you know what, if
2:37:21
I put out enough shit, that's it.
2:37:25
It'll make up for my lack of of being out there and trying to
2:37:28
sell my work. I'm hoping that the word of
2:37:30
mouth and how psycho I am with how I could I want to be does
2:37:35
it's. I mean, that's a good part about
2:37:37
your business. It's like everything you put out
2:37:39
is literally a a billboard. Everything.
2:37:41
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a rolling yeah.
2:37:44
Really. It's literally a rolling
2:37:45
billboard, and it's because they're going to go to shows
2:37:47
where other people need stuff done.
2:37:49
Like it's. Yeah, that that is really cool.
2:37:51
One cool, really good aspect of it.
2:37:53
Did we get questions from Malcolm?
2:37:55
Oh, we did. It's real freaky that I don't I
2:37:58
never post anything about asking for work and I get work, so it's
2:38:02
kind of nice. The industry is getting bigger
2:38:04
than it's it's moving I. Think it's moving?
2:38:07
It's moving. And you know, coming from a
2:38:10
place where I've seen slow times and come to times where people
2:38:14
really ask you to do a lot of shit, it's nice when you get
2:38:19
people showing up. Dude, you're work done.
2:38:21
You're empire, man. Empire.
2:38:23
No Empire dude, I'm just having a good time.
2:38:26
You. You built that, both of y'all.
2:38:29
That guys really did that. Thanks, Carl.
2:38:31
It's. Nice to hear that you're.
2:38:32
Part of our second. To turn around and like, look at
2:38:35
him. It's nice.
2:38:36
No, it's nice when someone, when someone talks about it because
2:38:39
we don't see it. So I know you.
2:38:41
It's nice, dude. He he's over here.
2:38:43
I'm happy on a Monday. Yeah, I'll come here.
2:38:45
I'll come in here on Monday morning and you will not.
2:38:48
Look happy. No, I'm.
2:38:50
Happy I love my. I will say I cannot wait to
2:38:53
fucking go. I'm now I'm like damn, hold on,
2:38:55
go home and pay. Love it.
2:38:56
Now you gotta go to the booth tomorrow anyway, so.
2:38:59
I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask some of these.
2:39:01
A lot of this we probably covered already, but this is a
2:39:04
good one. How would super life make a 350Z
2:39:07
look cool? I actually kind of like this.
2:39:10
Question, I don't like Z30 threes at all.
2:39:14
Yeah, it's hard. At all.
2:39:15
At all. I the last one I did I did a lot
2:39:18
of shit for it and it looked good and I just told myself from
2:39:24
that one I'm never doing 1 again.
2:39:25
Z30 threes Z30 fours I don't like I did a bunch of them I
2:39:30
don't like anymore. I 34 I will turn them down I'm.
2:39:33
Like. No, no, no.
2:39:35
The newer Z No, no, no. Z370.
2:39:38
Yes, exactly. Oh yeah, Z30. 2.
2:39:41
And Z31 I like. Yeah, you you like 90s style I.
2:39:45
Like 90s style. Yeah, yeah.
2:39:46
And. Life's got more characters.
2:39:48
That shit is doing OK. But do me a Malcolm C30. 3 is
2:39:52
I'm not a fan. 2008 350Z Nismo and silver This is the only ZI
2:39:57
like the. Shit from the poster.
2:39:58
Nismo one is nice, right? Nismo 1 is nice, but like, it
2:40:03
goes against what we're saying though, because you don't have
2:40:05
to do anything. You don't have to do anything.
2:40:07
Yeah, it just I want to get your opinion on this because.
2:40:09
Everything down to the wheels was fire.
2:40:11
We had a customer in here the other day.
2:40:12
I wish we had those photos because that car looked good,
2:40:14
but and and he he had this car and it's stock and he we just
2:40:20
looking at something underneath. I said, yo man, not for nothing.
2:40:23
This is the nicest Z I've had in the shop and and nothing's done
2:40:26
to it. See, it's, it's nice because of
2:40:29
that. Yeah, because for some reason, I
2:40:31
don't know why Z's when they mod, they end up looking really
2:40:35
cheap. The cars like go downwards.
2:40:37
I don't know why. I think it's two things.
2:40:38
That rear bumper. And that one is really nice.
2:40:42
I wouldn't do like obviously I would add that out.
2:40:45
I would keep the whole exterior. I wouldn't change a thing except
2:40:48
the wheels. Wheels.
2:40:49
Yep. Wheels and heights.
2:40:52
Dude, the wheels. Stock wheels that things are.
2:40:54
Those things are cool for stock wheels.
2:40:57
I'm. Cool.
2:40:58
I want to veto that. Yeah.
2:41:00
I don't I I I think it could be. Better imagine on those wheels
2:41:04
that you like, Carl. You know those Volks that you
2:41:05
like? GTC's.
2:41:07
Yeah, imagine the. GTC on.
2:41:08
GTC Retro. That is.
2:41:12
Yeah, I would change wheels and I would go height, but height
2:41:16
wise. Even that one's ruined right
2:41:18
there 'cause he tinted the tail light.
2:41:19
Yeah, I'm trying to see why I. Didn't Malcolm go back, go back
2:41:22
to that photo that you go up, go up, go up.
2:41:25
That one on the left, That's how the car looked when it was in
2:41:29
here. You see the red and the tail
2:41:30
lights. Beautiful.
2:41:31
Oh yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
2:41:32
And then Nismo and then white, red.
2:41:34
Yeah, that red silver. That rear bumper, that rear
2:41:37
bumper looks really nice. Yeah, man, the the car is just I
2:41:40
was like. But I I I hate those door
2:41:44
handles. I hate 7. 32 I hate the doors.
2:41:46
I hate. Everything so much.
2:41:48
You know what I don't? I hate that pillar panel.
2:41:50
That's not that additional panel that comes off that.
2:41:52
Breaks and then it costs 500. Dollars you cannot.
2:41:54
Suck out of them. Dude, you can't see enough.
2:41:56
Yeah, I'm not the tallest person in.
2:41:58
Here and and and. Look, I'm I'm I'm only speaking
2:42:00
from a exterior perspective. I'm sure the car drives well.
2:42:04
The car drifts. Really.
2:42:05
Obviously people are using them on the track.
2:42:07
I don't know enough about that aspect to say anything, but just
2:42:11
going from looks wise there wouldn't be a lot to do.
2:42:13
I would just. Lower the hell out of type shit.
2:42:16
And put some gaudy ass wheels on.
2:42:18
Yeah, I love. Gaudy ass wheels, yeah.
2:42:21
I. Feel like if the 350Z was
2:42:24
lightweight like an S chassis and it still look like that, I
2:42:28
might like it a lot more. Every time I get in that car and
2:42:30
I drive it, I'm like, why do I feel like I'm in a fucking?
2:42:32
Cars are not. Cars are not like that anymore.
2:42:35
No cars, that was. That was 2000.
2:42:37
Five car. I know that was.
2:42:39
Through STI with all-wheel drive weighed less than that It was a.
2:42:43
Company of age car. Company of age car.
2:42:46
These these Z's are always way too heavy.
2:42:48
Even a Z32, it's too heavy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:42:51
Yeah, I mean. I mean, they are.
2:42:53
Very heavy guests. These are heavy. 3400 pounds,
2:42:56
3400 lbs is what my guess was. Or more, I would say probably
2:43:00
more. 36 What is the? Trick O36.
2:43:04
On the high end convertible, yeah.
2:43:06
It's got to be 36. So I'm I'm a little wrong?
2:43:09
It's 2033. That's that's actually not that
2:43:13
heavy. Yeah, that's not that heavy.
2:43:14
See. That's heavy. 31 is not heavy.
2:43:16
That's heavy to me because if you look at an S15, go look at
2:43:18
S15 weight and that car was two I hope 2-3 years before.
2:43:22
I hope it's close. As no it won't.
2:43:23
Fuck, it won't be 2800 lbs. That's what a rear wheel drive
2:43:27
car should weigh. OK, so a pair of seats and the
2:43:30
spare tire and then someone's going.
2:43:31
To say oh, but it's got AV6 OK cool.
2:43:33
So it's slower and and it's hyper.
2:43:36
Yeah, OK, cool. Torque.
2:43:37
You got torque. No, yeah, stock for stock the Z
2:43:39
is faster than this car, but I'm just saying potential is ruined.
2:43:44
The IS is 3300 lbs. No, yeah, I know.
2:43:49
But it's a four door. It's a luxury sedan.
2:43:51
Yeah, there's a lot of. Shoe door.
2:43:54
It's a sports car and it's rear wheel drive.
2:43:56
All I'm thinking of with the Z is like when you peel the door
2:44:00
skins and everything like that. How much space like negative
2:44:04
space there? Is, yeah, yeah.
2:44:05
Skin to interior, it's a. Fat call.
2:44:09
Yeah, I see. I see it's fat.
2:44:10
It's got a lot of air in there. Yeah, it's just.
2:44:12
One of those things like they they could have went from the Z
2:44:14
32. The Z 32 was twin turbo, right?
2:44:17
So it's like, and you know, it's even scarier.
2:44:19
The Z 32 might be heavier than that.
2:44:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is fucking.
2:44:22
I wouldn't say yeah, yes, Turbo. 'S I think were very heavy,
2:44:25
yeah, especially. Like this, it's the same weight.
2:44:29
Especially like 2 + 2 and all that.
2:44:31
Quick shout out, Malcolm. Holy crap.
2:44:33
It's the same weight, if not, if not heavier.
2:44:37
Z3230 four, 100 lbs for A2 plus. Yeah.
2:44:41
What was that? Is that the Backseat 1?
2:44:43
2 + 2 yeah, yeah, yeah. Backseat one, yeah.
2:44:45
TT hardtop fucking 30 Oh my God. 3500 lbs with AT top.
2:44:50
You, you, you. You know what's also very heavy?
2:44:52
I I realize this is the 3000. Oh yeah.
2:44:58
Yes. I I I read that's almost 4000.
2:45:01
Pounds yo, bring that one up. Why are we talking?
2:45:03
Wait? Well, I'm sorry, I just.
2:45:04
Checked 3000GT. Why are we talking?
2:45:06
GT and Z32 are the same. To me that's like the same type
2:45:08
of. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:45:09
Yeah, one of these today. Or look at that one right there.
2:45:13
Yeah, look 4. 1000 Malcolm hit Show More VR4.
2:45:16
Yeah, see. OK, but here's the thing.
2:45:18
Here's the thing. It's a.
2:45:19
It's a vert. So you basically took you
2:45:21
basically took AZ 32 and you added an all-wheel drive.
2:45:25
So it's only going to go up. So look, VR4 is all-wheel drive,
2:45:28
convertible is Spyder 4100 lbs. 4100 lbs dude, that's my God
2:45:34
that that's like a mid sized truck dude so.
2:45:36
When people ask coins why I don't like those cars, that's
2:45:39
like a that's. One of those that's like a
2:45:40
crossover, man. It's.
2:45:41
Crazy dude. That's.
2:45:44
Now OK now let's end this on a on a good note.
2:45:46
Look up the car you like. Now what is the Dodge Hellcat?
2:45:52
The. Stealth.
2:45:53
Oh, never mind the the the one you like.
2:45:56
That's crazy. That's like them.
2:45:57
I do like. 4400. Pounds.
2:46:00
That's different. Hellcat, dude, Really.
2:46:02
That's the car. You like that shit?
2:46:03
That hellcat that thing gets, that hell yeah dude, that thing
2:46:07
gets pulled by the Earth itself, that is.
2:46:12
Just 4400 lbs. To be honest with you, that's
2:46:15
less than I thought it was going to be.
2:46:16
So yeah, I mean, for an American car built when it's built,
2:46:19
that's actually not bad. Yeah, there's got to be an
2:46:22
occasion where how many? I'm AI was a weight nerd with
2:46:25
cars. I don't know why.
2:46:26
Yeah, I mean, to me, weight doesn't matter because I'm, I'm
2:46:28
a fan of four doors and bigger cars.
2:46:30
Yeah, yeah, bigger bodies, Yeah. So weight doesn't matter at all.
2:46:34
It was weird. I always was about, I don't
2:46:35
know, it's probably because I had a Mini Cooper.
2:46:37
It's how I care about. Power and all that shit.
2:46:40
So weight doesn't really matter. Mini Cooper.
2:46:42
Yep, I had a Mini Cooper once and that was all.
2:46:44
That was the big thing. It was like it was all about
2:46:45
weight. You know, you had to have the
2:46:47
lightest car, dude, you would have.
2:46:49
That's what it. Is you would have hated me if I
2:46:51
won this doohickey on the Internet the other day, did you?
2:46:53
What? Was it friend of ours Kyle
2:46:56
Reedy? I think he lives in
2:46:56
Massachusetts or something. Raffling off his first car.
2:47:00
OK ready. First car was a 50s Ford clean
2:47:05
title running driving Flathead V8.
2:47:08
OK yeah he had a raffle. I'm not a raffle guy.
2:47:10
I bought spots into that raffle bro.
2:47:13
Why? Because I don't know it ran and
2:47:15
drive. I thought it would be cool just.
2:47:16
What is the driveway called around?
2:47:18
You know what it's called. Fuck.
2:47:19
Do I? Yeah, I don't know shit about
2:47:20
those. Cars, we're up here.
2:47:22
I'm appreciating it from up here.
2:47:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just looking down on it.
2:47:26
I thought it was cool. I don't know if you've ever
2:47:28
been. I know he hasn't been yet.
2:47:30
The race of gentlemen in well. Oh, no, I yeah, I always wanted
2:47:33
to go. It looked cool.
2:47:34
You need to go. Yeah, it looks cool.
2:47:36
You need to go. We all need to go this year
2:47:38
dude. That was the best event I've
2:47:39
been to. Really.
2:47:41
What's funny is I don't think I was doing anything that day.
2:47:43
Yeah, yeah. I think you were.
2:47:45
Yeah, it looks cool. I think I was, yeah, No.
2:47:47
But I felt bad either. Way no, but I think you were.
2:47:49
I wasn't doing anything that day.
2:47:51
Really. Yeah, my bike was just broken.
2:47:53
And then you know what I heard? I was like, oh, maybe they
2:47:55
didn't invite me, Maybe they didn't invite me because they
2:47:57
didn't have bikes. Nope.
2:47:58
Somebody didn't ride bikes and they were all over there.
2:48:00
I. Know car's mad sick but.
2:48:04
Do you have a water? I wish I did, honestly.
2:48:07
My mouth is so dry. I think we have beer.
2:48:10
No, no we don't. We don't.
2:48:11
We don't. But we can get.
2:48:12
Yeah, we're let's, let's, let's finish this up.
2:48:15
No. No, no, it's good dude.
2:48:16
No, no rush. I just feel like I'm so.
2:48:19
The problem is the water store where we get water.
2:48:22
They've been closed down for the it's called the water.
2:48:25
Store the water store? Is that actually?
2:48:27
Literally, yeah, it's up the corner.
2:48:28
It's. Real.
2:48:29
And we get water from there all the time.
2:48:30
And they're like, oh, we're we're closed for renovations.
2:48:33
And I'm like, oh, OK, I guess we'll all just die.
2:48:35
But. Let's let's get more questions.
2:48:37
Oh shit. I know we probably.
2:48:38
You're going to say you were going to end it.
2:48:40
I know. I know, I just.
2:48:41
I'm kind of thirsty. I'm kind of hungry.
2:48:44
Yeah, you're right. Are they?
2:48:45
Why don't you pick? A couple good ones so I at
2:48:46
least. Yeah, yeah.
2:48:47
I just feel bad if I don't, you know what I mean?
2:48:48
Yeah, all good dude. No, no problem.
2:48:51
Thank. You for taking the time though,
2:48:52
Kay, especially now that I know you're working nights, which is
2:48:56
strategic of you. Yeah.
2:48:58
I mean, it's really. You found a way to make it.
2:49:00
Work out? Yeah, it's worked out pretty
2:49:02
good, thank God. I.
2:49:05
Just the way people word things on here is so ridiculous.
2:49:08
What was that like? Like this one?
2:49:10
OK, for example, if you were working on a rusty car you
2:49:13
didn't expect to be rusty, would you twerk it?
2:49:16
What does that mean? I don't know, twerk it.
2:49:18
But does it mean? What does he mean?
2:49:19
Would you keep working on it? I don't.
2:49:21
I don't know would. I twerk it like do they mean
2:49:23
like, I don't know, like like say what?
2:49:26
This is why I'd have to read them before I say well.
2:49:29
But a lot of these we already answered for sure.
2:49:33
Lewis, the owner of the car outside the Stagia.
2:49:35
OK. He said thank you for doing the
2:49:37
splitter on the Stagia. Let's do another collaboration
2:49:40
on an older JDM. He's got a Honda I think he may
2:49:43
be talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:49:45
Dude, he was. He was good to work with.
2:49:47
Yeah, Yeah. He was excited when it was fun.
2:49:50
Yeah. He's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
2:49:51
ask Kay. You know, I think he listened to
2:49:52
the podcast and everything. Everyone knew that you were
2:49:54
like, picky. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:49:56
So he was like, I don't know what's gonna happen.
2:49:57
He's. Like sending it to college?
2:49:59
Yeah. Yeah, it's so intimidating.
2:50:03
Now, that's good to reach out, but I don't want to give that
2:50:06
kind of reputation for people to even be scared to reach out,
2:50:09
because let's say he was scared to reach out for a small job
2:50:12
like that, I would have never had the fun to do something like
2:50:15
that. And that looked like a fun job.
2:50:16
And it was a fun job, so it was good to make.
2:50:19
That should work. Also that lip doesn't typically
2:50:22
fit it so. You made it it.
2:50:24
Was fun, yeah. That's kind of though.
2:50:25
Not to mention, I mean, he imported that thing.
2:50:27
He paid a lot of money for it. Yeah, yeah.
2:50:29
He had told me he went through the whole process of doing
2:50:31
himself, so he was pretty bummed.
2:50:32
I think he wants to do something with like the Rockers.
2:50:34
Eventually something had to get done.
2:50:36
So I think we're gonna do some more work on that car.
2:50:38
That's awesome, Zach and Steve, the guy we had on here earlier.
2:50:43
Yeah, the other podcast. You know, Zach, I think because
2:50:45
I think you brought him up. Maybe you don't, I'm not sure,
2:50:47
but I thought you said that the other day, but I don't think so.
2:50:50
He said not a question, but homie's real talented, and he
2:50:53
just gave you a thumbs up. I really appreciate that.
2:50:55
You got to check him out too, because yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:50:57
He's got a small fabrication shop.
2:50:58
Check him out. Yeah, and and the shit he does
2:51:01
out of this, it's literally his parents garage, the site I.
2:51:03
Love that shit. 11 car garage. Unbelievable.
2:51:07
So impressive for people to put out cool work in unconventional
2:51:11
places. Yeah, exactly.
2:51:12
So it's it's very cool. But yeah, anyone who says
2:51:17
something kind like that, especially when they're in the
2:51:18
craft, very much appreciated. I.
2:51:22
Always thank them. I I feel the same way.
2:51:23
No, no, thank you. Yeah, that's.
2:51:26
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are some trends you'd like
2:51:29
to see more of or less of? Is this your wife?
2:51:35
Yeah, yes, it is. I had a feeling.
2:51:37
I had a feeling I've seen the name.
2:51:38
Before what'd you say? Like, oh, he's cutest, No.
2:51:41
No, no, she said, She said. What are some trends you'd like
2:51:43
to see more of or less of? But we kind of went over that.
2:51:45
I. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:51:47
We, we kind of went over them and any of any of the trends I
2:51:50
want to see more of is usually things that are so radical that
2:51:55
it's not going to be a trend. So so like, it's weird all the
2:51:59
things I want. Yeah, yeah.
2:52:00
It's more unique stuff, yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of
2:52:02
things that we said that we're happy that they're gone.
2:52:05
Yeah, that the fucking the. Suspension.
2:52:08
Suspension bridges hanging off the back of the car.
2:52:10
We're done. With that, with the little like
2:52:13
adjuster thing for the tension. Yeah, like you could see it.
2:52:16
It's with the middle. A lot of that shit came from
2:52:19
racing with the front defusers but like they just made it into.
2:52:22
They ruined it, man. Yeah, they they really think
2:52:25
because so it did have a purpose.
2:52:27
It started with a purpose and it just trickled down.
2:52:30
It just trickled down. You know, when I went to, I went
2:52:34
to college for fashion and we would learn this thing where
2:52:39
things would either they would trickle up or they would trickle
2:52:42
down where this would be. It's trickling down from
2:52:45
something that actually works. It was a thing and then it
2:52:50
trickled down to, to the people that don't know what it's
2:52:53
originally used for and then ends up looking trashy.
2:52:56
It got to that point, it trickled down and it got to the
2:53:00
point where now for the people that even use it for functional
2:53:03
reasons, it looks bad now because the general public are
2:53:07
just making it look real bad. Yeah, that's a lot of things.
2:53:10
But On the contrary, trickling up, trickling up, they would
2:53:14
like make it more work. Better trickling up would be
2:53:18
like an example would be like, let's just say for example,
2:53:21
would be a manufacturer showing their car with really low
2:53:27
fitment or now making cars really low with like wide wheels
2:53:31
because they saw what was big on the streets people were doing on
2:53:35
their own. Like let's just say for example,
2:53:38
manufacturers saw that people were going wide.
2:53:41
So now manufacturers know that they make wide Fender flares.
2:53:45
They do all this shit because that's what was big on the
2:53:47
streets and then it trickled up to being manufacturers.
2:53:50
Now. So that's what like it would
2:53:52
applied the same way, yeah. That's a good example.
2:53:54
Yeah. I feel so bad.
2:53:55
We don't have a water for you. All right, let's end this
2:53:57
podcast. Good.
2:53:57
Brother. It's all good.
2:54:00
Thank you for everything. Yeah.
2:54:01
Thank you. This.
2:54:02
Is not always man. I try to talk to these guys
2:54:05
about what I do on my free time, so it's really nice to even just
2:54:11
get to hear things that you were able to pass down to me just
2:54:15
now, dude. Of course then.
2:54:16
I really, I wish you all the best dude.
2:54:19
I'll tell. The journey of yours, you have a
2:54:20
better idea? How fucking much That changed a
2:54:24
lot of how I see my hobby now. You're going to look back at
2:54:28
this time as your most favorite time because when you're on the
2:54:33
come up and you're trying to learn, it really is the best.
2:54:36
It's so exciting. Dude, I just.
2:54:38
It's it's it's so. Exciting.
2:54:39
I can't get enough. I don't know it's.
2:54:40
Fun, it's the best. Enjoy it.
2:54:41
Enjoy it everyday. That's why we're doing it.
2:54:44
Enjoy it. All this shit everyone.
2:54:47
When you're doing it, enjoy it or don't fucking do it.
2:54:50
That's the best way to end this. Thank you so much this has been
2:54:53
episode I don't even know 100 and something they're never
2:54:56
going to stop. Thank.
2:54:58
You 420. Yep, we're going to be on for
2:55:01
that. Oh yeah, peace.
2:55:04
Bye. It's fucked up, though.
2:55:06
I think we promised that one to Hayes.
2:55:08
What? 4/20 for 4/20.
2:55:13
Yeah, and with that, Kay has left the building.
2:55:15
Yes, a living legend, if I do say so myself.
2:55:18
Yeah, I mean, that episode was, I say it every time, but that
2:55:23
episode was one of the one of your favorite.
2:55:25
It really was though. I'm sorry, what did you think
2:55:28
about? It it was a really good episode.
2:55:29
You were a spectator, basically. Yeah, it was.
2:55:32
I was listening intently the whole time and it was a great
2:55:36
listen. And if you notice, Carl wasn't
2:55:40
interrupting that much. Yeah, because that's his.
2:55:42
That's his mentor. Yeah, say the least.
2:55:45
Yeah, you're right. Not a mentor but and you know,
2:55:47
not an idol but. Not to talk to you about, not to
2:55:50
talk to you about shit about Carl, but when he when Carl said
2:55:54
that he did something and then he didn't agree with it and he
2:55:57
told him that Carl actually took the advice.
2:56:01
Oh, yes, yes, yes. Like in the in a normal
2:56:04
situation with Carl, he would he would clap back, fight back.
2:56:08
Yeah. But no, he didn't you.
2:56:10
Yeah. If it was me, he would miss
2:56:11
screaming at me. But he took the advice and I was
2:56:13
like, oh, that's cool. So obviously Carl really
2:56:17
respects him and kind of use him as a mentor.
2:56:20
I would say. Yeah, probably is true, but.
2:56:23
Because he's he's at a spot where Carl would like to be one
2:56:26
day and you got to respect somebody like that.
2:56:30
Yeah, Carl. Carl knows that.
2:56:34
Carl's smart, man. Carl's smart.
2:56:36
We don't give him enough credit. When he needs to take advice,
2:56:39
he'll take it. Yeah.
2:56:41
Yeah, and he when he pulled out the notepad.
2:56:44
Where did that come from? I was like, OK, he.
2:56:47
Was like in a jacket or something.
2:56:48
I don't know, guys, I think we're I think you guys are
2:56:50
getting a front row seat to watch Carl mature over this next
2:56:53
year. Yeah, I think 2025 is going to
2:56:55
be his year. But yeah, thanks.
2:56:56
Thank you for listening. I I really enjoyed this episode.
2:56:59
I hope you guys enjoyed it. We also have something else
2:57:02
coming for you. Me and Eddie went down to Super
2:57:07
Life and we filmed a our first shop tour video and Eddie is in
2:57:11
the middle of editing it right now.
2:57:13
I guess I'm going to break the 4th wall.
2:57:16
Eddie, you think that's going to be done by Friday?
2:57:20
He's worried, he's worried, but he thinks it's going to be done.
2:57:22
Damn. So.
2:57:24
Crunch time. He's locking in so.
2:57:26
We might. We might have this done you.
2:57:27
Literally have probably 24 hours.
2:57:30
Yeah, we might have this video done for tomorrow.
2:57:32
I, I personally think it's going to be, I think it's going to be
2:57:35
the best video Eddie has ever done for us for sure.
2:57:38
And I think it's going to be one of our best episodes that's ever
2:57:41
come out on our YouTube. So I, I think you guys are going
2:57:44
to be excited for that or, or you guys are going to be excited
2:57:45
when you watch that. I got to see some of it earlier
2:57:49
or before the podcast last night and Kay was stoked on it.
2:57:54
Yeah, you, you just saw what a minute snippet and he was like,
2:57:57
wow, this is amazing. Yeah, we watch a lot, decent
2:57:59
amount of it, but it should be around 20 to 30 minutes long.
2:58:02
And it's it's not nice. It's a nice, like it's a nice
2:58:07
tour of his shop and you get to like see how his brain works a
2:58:10
little bit and you get to literally see how the layout of
2:58:14
his shop is and what he does like on a normal work day.
2:58:17
So yeah, it's definitely awesome.
2:58:18
I, I can't wait to do more of these shop tour videos, but
2:58:22
yeah, make sure you guys check that one out.
2:58:24
If you haven't already, please subscribe to our YouTube.
2:58:28
We are trying to hit a certain number of subscribers this year
2:58:31
and it would definitely help us out if our if our podcast
2:58:34
listeners checked out our YouTube and yeah, what's going
2:58:40
on in the shop. The shop, we got a lot of cars
2:58:44
in here getting them pumped out as the week go by.
2:58:48
As the weeks go by, if you're local or in tri-state area, come
2:58:52
down, get your car worked on, serviced, do a whole bunch of
2:58:55
installs, you know, alignments. One, one thing I want to talk
2:58:59
about was that we have an R34 GTT here.
2:59:02
It's getting a lot of work done. Basically a whole suspension
2:59:06
overhaul. Now we're replacing a
2:59:08
transmission, brand new RB25 transmission.
2:59:10
Brand new. Yeah, brand new, yeah.
2:59:13
So a lot of work getting done on that car.
2:59:15
The reason I bring it up is because we are doing a Stance
2:59:19
XR1 coilover giveaway this month on the website and every $5 you
2:59:24
spend gets you an entry to win a set of coilovers.
2:59:29
And the reason I bring that up with this car is because we are
2:59:32
installing Stance coilovers on this car.
2:59:34
So we're going to be doing some videos on it and some other
2:59:37
Stance videos. But something I realized today
2:59:41
was we're basically we're doing free shipping on Stance
2:59:45
coilovers this month. So anything, anything purchased
2:59:49
over $350.00 is free shipping on the website for the month of
2:59:52
February. So if you guys are interested in
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Stan's coil overs, now would be a good time to order because
2:59:57
you're going to get free shipping and the shipping on the
2:59:59
coil over sets are usually pretty expensive.
3:00:02
I, I don't know if it hits $100, but it's, it's up there.
3:00:05
So if you don't want to, if you don't want to, take your
3:00:09
chances. And you just want to order a set
3:00:11
and now is a good time to do that.
3:00:12
And we are going to be putting out some content involving
3:00:14
coilovers for the rest of the month.
3:00:17
So yeah, check out or be on the lookout for those videos.
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And also vapor honing this month is 20% off.
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If you go to our website, there is a link you could Click to
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So if you can't afford something right now, guess what?
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3:00:54
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3:00:57
Yeah, worry about it later. No, but I've used the firm
3:01:00
before. I'm pretty sure it's it's a What
3:01:03
if I don't? I think I did the pay in four.
3:01:04
Remember that time I bought a toothbrush?
3:01:07
Oh yeah, yeah, you did affirm. Yeah, I bought a toothbrush and
3:01:10
I. Bought the most expensive tooth
3:01:13
toothbrush? It still was less than $300.00.
3:01:18
I had to had to use the pay in four or whatever, you know,
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sometimes, sometimes things aren't going well, you know.
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Yeah, so I get it. But you still need a toothbrush.
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You still need coilovers, you know, you still.
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Need. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's they're
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necessities. Yeah, exactly.
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