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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcomed Aaron Mankey's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of I
- 0:07Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is full
- 0:14Speaker 1: of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book,
- 0:18Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display,
- 0:22Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet
- 0:27Speaker 1: of Curiosities. For quite some time, there has been an
- 0:38Speaker 1: ongoing debate as to whether a tomato is a fruit
- 0:41Speaker 1: or a vegetable. Of course, it has long been established
- 0:44Speaker 1: as a fruit, but there are still holdouts out there,
- 0:46Speaker 1: not unlike flat earthers who cling to their antiquated beliefs
- 0:50Speaker 1: that the tomato is a vegetable solely because it is
- 0:53Speaker 1: often eaten among other vegetables. But there was a time
- 0:56Speaker 1: when the debate around tomatoes was much more venomous to
- 1:00Speaker 1: It was definitely got off to a bad start in history.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It all began when they were accused by a fourteenth
- 1:05Speaker 1: century Catholic naturalist of being man breaks in disguise and
- 1:09Speaker 1: thus condemned by God. Things didn't get any better when
- 1:13Speaker 1: tomatoes were first brought back from America by Cortes. No
- 1:17Speaker 1: one dared eat them, because well, no one knew what
- 1:19Speaker 1: would happen if you did, But then when someone did,
- 1:22Speaker 1: it didn't go well. People began to get sick from tomatoes,
- 1:26Speaker 1: sometimes even dying. The tomato was only partially at fault, though,
- 1:30Speaker 1: you see. The actual culprit was the tableware at the time,
- 1:34Speaker 1: which was made of pewter, containing a remarkably high concentration
- 1:37Speaker 1: of lead and a twist that could tie together a
- 1:40Speaker 1: historical fiction mystery novel. It was the acid of the
- 1:44Speaker 1: tomatoes that brought the lead out. Thus began the tomatoes
- 1:48Speaker 1: unfortunate nickname the poison Apple, and it faded from the
- 1:52Speaker 1: dietary habits of everyone. Some theorized that the poison came
- 1:56Speaker 1: from the tomato skin, which could coat the stomach and
- 1:58Speaker 1: cause stomach cancer, while others blamed tomatoes for appendicitis. Whatever
- 2:03Speaker 1: the case, it simply wasn't worth the risk. That is
- 2:07Speaker 1: until one Colonel Robert Gibbon Johnson he'd had enough of
- 2:11Speaker 1: the poor reputation of his beloved garden snack. Colonel Johnson
- 2:15Speaker 1: knew as we do, that tomatoes were not dangerous to humans,
- 2:19Speaker 1: but he had a very doubtful public around him, frequently
- 2:22Speaker 1: pointing fingers and calling him mad. For eating these supposedly
- 2:26Speaker 1: deadly forbidden fruit. Johnson loved tomatoes so much that he
- 2:30Speaker 1: offered a yearly prize to whoever could grow the largest,
- 2:33Speaker 1: although at the time they were still only used for
- 2:35Speaker 1: decorative purposes and nothing more. Finally, Johnson decided to do
- 2:40Speaker 1: something bigger. He announced that he would eat a tomato,
- 2:43Speaker 1: which by then had earned another nickname, the wolf peach,
- 2:47Speaker 1: and he would do it on the steps of the
- 2:49Speaker 1: courthouse for all to see. That morning, he emerged from
- 2:53Speaker 1: his mansion to the cheers and jeers of nearly two
- 2:56Speaker 1: thousand people. Dressed in his usual black suit, he walked
- 2:59Speaker 1: down the street towards the courthouse, the crowd in tow
- 3:03Speaker 1: and a fireman's band playing a tune to commemorate the occasion.
- 3:06Speaker 1: He mounted the steps, tomato in hand, and turned to
- 3:10Speaker 1: the crowd, delivering his mission for the occasion. To help
- 3:14Speaker 1: dispel the tall tales, he said, the fantastic fables that
- 3:18Speaker 1: you have been hearing, and to prove to you that
- 3:20Speaker 1: it is not poisonous, I am going to eat one
- 3:23Speaker 1: right now. The crowd cheered and jeered some more, expecting
- 3:28Speaker 1: to see what would surely be a gruesome death of
- 3:31Speaker 1: epic proportions as this foolish man ate a fruit not
- 3:34Speaker 1: only poisonous but also perhaps condemned by God himself, And
- 3:38Speaker 1: as the tomato passed into the gullet of the colonel,
- 3:41Speaker 1: the crowd was perhaps a little disappointed that he wasn't
- 3:44Speaker 1: smitten by a bolt of lightning, or at least left
- 3:47Speaker 1: convulsive on the ground from stomach pains. No, Johnson didn't
- 3:51Speaker 1: die on the steps of the courthouse that day. He
- 3:54Speaker 1: lived on and proved that tomatoes were never poisonous, and
- 3:57Speaker 1: if they ever were condemned by God, perhaps he'd lightened
- 4:01Speaker 1: up a bit. Over the years, the actual history of
- 4:04Speaker 1: this event was passed down orally from postmaster to historian
- 4:08Speaker 1: before being written down for the first time nearly a
- 4:10Speaker 1: century later. So while the dramatics of this event may
- 4:14Speaker 1: well be embellished, the result of the event is not,
- 4:18Speaker 1: and much like the tomato over the century, this event
- 4:21Speaker 1: earned itself a nickname the Salem Tomato Trials, making it
- 4:26Speaker 1: hands down the second most famous trial to ever occur
- 4:30Speaker 1: in Salem, well, that is, Salem, New Jersey. Language is
- 4:49Speaker 1: ever changing words enter and leave our lexicon all the time.
- 4:53Speaker 1: For example, almost nobody channels their inner Teddy Roosevelt and
- 4:57Speaker 1: uses bully to express approval anymore. On the flip side,
- 5:00Speaker 1: words like bird a side and tater tots were inducted
- 5:04Speaker 1: into the Oxford English Dictionary in two thousand twenty one.
- 5:07Speaker 1: For every rolodex that goes the way of the dinosaur,
- 5:10Speaker 1: there's a conscious uncoupling that takes its place. But many
- 5:14Speaker 1: words stand the test of time and we can chart
- 5:16Speaker 1: their origins back hundreds even thousands of years. And one
- 5:20Speaker 1: such word happened to come from ancient Greece, and it
- 5:23Speaker 1: was all thanks to one man. His name was Klistones,
- 5:27Speaker 1: and he was known as the father of Athenian democracy.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Clisthenes was a Greek lawmaker who had enough of the
- 5:34Speaker 1: tyrants in control. With assistance from the Spartans and a
- 5:38Speaker 1: noble Greek family, he was able to overthrow the person
- 5:41Speaker 1: in charge and install a democratic system of government instead.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Suddenly Athenians were not beholden to the whims of a
- 5:48Speaker 1: few rich and powerful families. They could now vote their
- 5:51Speaker 1: own best interests instead. The familial tribes of old were
- 5:55Speaker 1: replaced with new tribes based on where they lived or
- 5:58Speaker 1: their dems, and it was leave that as many as
- 6:01Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty nine dems existed at one time.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Along with a democratic system of voting, Clystones also introduced sortition,
- 6:09Speaker 1: a way of choosing individuals for government roles based on
- 6:13Speaker 1: criteria other than their hereditary or family relations. He did
- 6:17Speaker 1: everything in his power to give the people a voice,
- 6:20Speaker 1: one they had been lacking under their previous rule, and
- 6:23Speaker 1: nowhere was that more obvious than one other civic practice
- 6:26Speaker 1: Clystones established in Athens. It was a form of voting,
- 6:30Speaker 1: but rather than holding an election for a position within
- 6:33Speaker 1: the community, people instead voted to exile someone, and for
- 6:37Speaker 1: a period of ten years a concept was a safety mechanism,
- 6:42Speaker 1: a way to prevent potential tyrants from rising to power
- 6:46Speaker 1: and destroying democracy. Each year Athenians were asked whether they
- 6:50Speaker 1: would like to nominate someone to leave. If a majority
- 6:54Speaker 1: voted yes, then another election would be held two months later,
- 6:57Speaker 1: in which votes would be cast either against or or
- 7:00Speaker 1: the exile. But citizens didn't cast their votes on pieces
- 7:03Speaker 1: of papyrus, Such a precious medium was too expensive for
- 7:07Speaker 1: something that could be soon discarded. Instead, they used what
- 7:09Speaker 1: they already had available, pottery. After all, so many of
- 7:13Speaker 1: their stories were already painted and carved into vases, cups,
- 7:16Speaker 1: and bowls. It made sense that the broken shards of
- 7:19Speaker 1: those vessels could be reused in some way. In fact,
- 7:22Speaker 1: the idea of using broken pieces of clay for writing
- 7:25Speaker 1: dates back thousands of years to the ancient Egyptians. Much
- 7:28Speaker 1: of these objects still exist today thanks to Egypt's dry
- 7:31Speaker 1: desert climates, were able to gain more insight into the
- 7:34Speaker 1: daily lives of the ancient Greeks and the ancient Egyptians
- 7:37Speaker 1: because of them. But whereas the Egyptians used the pottery
- 7:41Speaker 1: shards for everything from medical prescriptions to dream diaries, the
- 7:45Speaker 1: Athenians primarily used theirs to get rid of unwanted citizens.
- 7:50Speaker 1: One by one, each voter would tell ascribe the name
- 7:53Speaker 1: of the person they wanted gone. Since many Athenians were
- 7:56Speaker 1: illiterates and could not write themselves. The scribe would then
- 7:59Speaker 1: carve the name into a piece of clay, which was
- 8:02Speaker 1: then tossed into a large urn with the others. Finally,
- 8:05Speaker 1: the vote counters tallied up the results by sorting the
- 8:08Speaker 1: shards into different piles, one for each name. The pile
- 8:11Speaker 1: with the most pieces indicated which person had to leave
- 8:15Speaker 1: as long as their name had been etched into at
- 8:17Speaker 1: least six thousand shards. If the korun wasn't met, then
- 8:20Speaker 1: the vote didn't count. The whole process of exiling someone
- 8:24Speaker 1: had been designed by Clysnes around broken fragments of pottery,
- 8:28Speaker 1: also called ostraca. This is where the term for banishing
- 8:31Speaker 1: someone from a community, or ostracizing them came from. Sadly,
- 8:36Speaker 1: the first victim of the practice of someone who probably
- 8:39Speaker 1: never expected to have it used against them. It was Clistines,
- 8:43Speaker 1: the man who had introduced it in the first place.
- 8:50Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet
- 8:53Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, or learn
- 8:57Speaker 1: more about the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com.
- 9:01Speaker 1: The show was created by me Aaron Mankey in partnership
- 9:05Speaker 1: with how Stuff Works. I make another award winning show
- 9:08Speaker 1: called Lore, which is a podcast, book series, and television show,
- 9:12Speaker 1: and you can learn all about it over at the
- 9:15Speaker 1: World of Lore dot com. And until next time, stay curious. Yeah,