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- 0:01Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
- 0:05Speaker 1: your day, and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Thursday morning, twenty ninth day of January. I'm West thanks
- 0:19Speaker 2: for joining me. Found out late last night and it's
- 0:27Speaker 2: still kind of fresh, but passing of a former colleague friend,
- 0:38Speaker 2: someone I worked with for many years in broadcasting, Brian Waters,
- 0:44Speaker 2: who worked in the Columbus, Georgia area for a really
- 0:48Speaker 2: long time. More recently he had been working in media sales.
- 0:55Speaker 2: He had an extremely rare form of cancer. He had
- 0:58Speaker 2: been fighting cancer for a while, some people using that terminology.
- 1:04Speaker 2: He lost his fight with that cancer. I like Norm
- 1:07Speaker 2: McDonald's take on that when he says that it's a draw.
- 1:12Speaker 2: The cancer dies with you. The cancer doesn't win. It
- 1:18Speaker 2: goes with you and you take it with you, and
- 1:21Speaker 2: it's a way of beating it. I like. And of
- 1:24Speaker 2: course Norm McDonald died with cancer and when he made
- 1:27Speaker 2: those observations and no one really knew he had cancer.
- 1:32Speaker 2: But onto the subject of Brian Waters. Brian and I
- 1:35Speaker 2: worked together for a long time. I first, I guess,
- 1:38Speaker 2: first time I met Brian, I was doing my TV
- 1:41Speaker 2: show called Not Quite Late Night, and we invited him
- 1:47Speaker 2: and he had a midday host on. He was a
- 1:51Speaker 2: program director of Rock one of three at the time
- 1:53Speaker 2: and midday host on the station with someone named Reggie.
- 1:56Speaker 2: She went on to work on She's Right Rock one
- 2:00Speaker 2: of three for a while middays. She wanted to do
- 2:02Speaker 2: mornings on Sunny one hundred for a while, but the
- 2:05Speaker 2: two of them came on my TV show that we
- 2:08Speaker 2: were doing out of a friend of mine's apartment, and
- 2:11Speaker 2: they came in, and the first time I met him,
- 2:14Speaker 2: I think he was just like, what have we gonna do?
- 2:17Speaker 2: What is the show in this apartment? But they were
- 2:21Speaker 2: good sports about it. I had a good time doing
- 2:23Speaker 2: the show. It obviously, like many of my things I've
- 2:27Speaker 2: done in my job, my first episode of that show
- 2:29Speaker 2: led to my first radio job at Sonnay one hundred,
- 2:32Speaker 2: And in that case, there was some time passed and
- 2:36Speaker 2: the station I was working for, Sunny one hundred at
- 2:38Speaker 2: the time, that station was acquired by ownership that owned
- 2:42Speaker 2: Rock one O three and some other stations. So once
- 2:45Speaker 2: we sort of became part of that group, there was
- 2:47Speaker 2: an opportunity for me to go and work for Brian
- 2:52Speaker 2: and I did for years in some capacity. He was
- 2:56Speaker 2: my operations manager for a long operations director for the stations,
- 3:02Speaker 2: and we, you know, we had a friendship that came
- 3:05Speaker 2: from that. At work, we certainly were colleagues, but you know,
- 3:10Speaker 2: on the side, we we got to know each other
- 3:12Speaker 2: over the years, especially after we stopped working in the
- 3:15Speaker 2: same building, that continued on. He passed some opportunities on
- 3:20Speaker 2: to me over the years, some chances to some jobs
- 3:23Speaker 2: and things that he thought I was a good fit for.
- 3:26Speaker 2: He knew someone who was looking to learn about podcasting
- 3:28Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't know anyone who knows more
- 3:31Speaker 2: about it in this area than Wes Carroll, and this
- 3:34Speaker 2: is who you need to talk to. And that was,
- 3:38Speaker 2: you know, very kind of him and very well appreciated.
- 3:41Speaker 2: There were a lot of things that I did in
- 3:43Speaker 2: radio he didn't get. He was a very straightforward, by
- 3:46Speaker 2: the book guy. He was definitely a middle manager for
- 3:50Speaker 2: our company, and he was trying to keep the boss
- 3:53Speaker 2: happy and then also keep us all happy and creative,
- 3:57Speaker 2: and there were creative things at times that he just
- 4:00Speaker 2: didn't get. For me. There were things I did while
- 4:03Speaker 2: working for him that he absolutely did not understand. He
- 4:06Speaker 2: did not understand anything about my time at Dragon Con.
- 4:11Speaker 2: But he went along with it, and he's like, you're
- 4:13Speaker 2: coming back with some great content, so go do it.
- 4:16Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't understand. I don't know
- 4:18Speaker 2: how you're getting these interviews. I don't know how you
- 4:21Speaker 2: are getting the content you're getting. But we'll take it.
- 4:24Speaker 2: We'll take all of the hits on our websites and
- 4:28Speaker 2: thank you. But I don't understand what it is. And
- 4:32Speaker 2: he didn't want to understand it. All he wanted to
- 4:34Speaker 2: know was that there was some benefit to it for
- 4:36Speaker 2: the stations. That was the way he was. And I
- 4:41Speaker 2: worked for him for a really long time. I vividly
- 4:44Speaker 2: remember once that there was a day that I worked
- 4:50Speaker 2: for him that he figured out how to spell my name,
- 4:54Speaker 2: my last name. A lot of people don't get Carol right.
- 4:56Speaker 2: It's two rs and two l's. That's that's how you
- 4:59Speaker 2: That's how a lot of people spell it. And I
- 5:01Speaker 2: can't say everybody spells it. Obviously, the first name of
- 5:04Speaker 2: Carol is Crol, but he often left off the second L.
- 5:10Speaker 2: And one day in particular, he wrote a note. It
- 5:13Speaker 2: was a post it note on some papers for something
- 5:16Speaker 2: that I needed to check out budgets or something from
- 5:19Speaker 2: my station and he had stuck this post it note
- 5:22Speaker 2: on there and he wrote my name on it so
- 5:23Speaker 2: that he could get it to me, and he put
- 5:26Speaker 2: it in my box outside my door, picked it up.
- 5:29Speaker 2: I looked at it and I went, huh, all right,
- 5:32Speaker 2: he spelled my name right. And I put the date
- 5:36Speaker 2: under the post it note and just inside the door
- 5:38Speaker 2: of my office, I stuck that post it note on
- 5:41Speaker 2: the wall and probably had to put a piece of
- 5:44Speaker 2: tape on it because post it notes aren't going to
- 5:46Speaker 2: stay there forever. But anyway, it sat there in my
- 5:48Speaker 2: office for probably a year, inside the door, right on
- 5:51Speaker 2: the wall. One day he was standing there. We were
- 5:54Speaker 2: having some sort of brainstorming session and we were talking
- 5:56Speaker 2: and he was just standing in my doorway and he
- 5:58Speaker 2: kind of looked around and I had a lot of
- 6:00Speaker 2: things that I'm sure he didn't understand in my office
- 6:03Speaker 2: and he looked over and he saw the post it
- 6:05Speaker 2: note and he said, is that my handwriting? And I
- 6:07Speaker 2: said yeah, And he said what is it? What is
- 6:10Speaker 2: it doing on the wall And I said, you wrote
- 6:14Speaker 2: that and put it on a note. That's the day
- 6:15Speaker 2: you figured out how to spell my last name. And
- 6:17Speaker 2: he said, why did you ever say anything, I said,
- 6:19Speaker 2: I don't know. It just wasn't that important. It wasn't
- 6:22Speaker 2: like I had to go correct him. I just kind
- 6:24Speaker 2: of went with it and we had a laugh about that.
- 6:27Speaker 2: It was just kind of one of those things that
- 6:30Speaker 2: I won't forget. There's it's a small thing. There's a
- 6:33Speaker 2: lot of other things that I won't forget, certainly about
- 6:36Speaker 2: my time working with him. When I found out he
- 6:38Speaker 2: had cancer, you know, I reached out and told him
- 6:42Speaker 2: that obviously I would pray for him and the people
- 6:46Speaker 2: that were close to him. We have mutual friends, and
- 6:51Speaker 2: I know that they're hurting right now. I'm hurting. I
- 6:54Speaker 2: hate the loss of this person who did a lot
- 6:58Speaker 2: for the community. He did a lot for animals in
- 7:01Speaker 2: the community. He was very active in Uptown Columbus, and
- 7:06Speaker 2: a lot of that was work related. But I think
- 7:08Speaker 2: he was good about finding a way to take his passions,
- 7:12Speaker 2: the things that he cared about and turn that into
- 7:14Speaker 2: work things. And I think that's that's what he did.
- 7:17Speaker 2: And really sad to learn about his passing last night,
- 7:20Speaker 2: and you know, see you on the other side, b W.
- 7:24Speaker 2: It's when when we found out about the very rare
- 7:32Speaker 2: cancer and how much it had progressed and gripped him.
- 7:37Speaker 2: We feared that this day was coming. But of course
- 7:42Speaker 2: you have hope and and you want to want to
- 7:46Speaker 2: see some progress and some things. But we had a
- 7:50Speaker 2: we had a nice our. Last couple of conversations were great,
- 7:55Speaker 2: and I just glad to know he's not suffering anymore.
- 7:59Speaker 2: And it's tough when it's a very rare type of cancer.
- 8:07Speaker 2: You really, I mean all cancer, you're gonna say why
- 8:10Speaker 2: when it's a very rare one, you really ask that question.
- 8:13Speaker 2: So sad news. Certainly in the area broadcasting community will
- 8:23Speaker 2: mourn him, and this is happening too often. We just
- 8:27Speaker 2: lost Chuck Leonard and now Brian Waters. It's hard to
- 8:32Speaker 2: transition from that into anything else, but I'm gonna try
- 8:35Speaker 2: to do that. This morning, I want to talk about
- 8:39Speaker 2: the craziness that is the NFL Hall of Fame. I
- 8:46Speaker 2: don't normally do this, and I don't normally have much
- 8:49Speaker 2: say about it, but Bill Belichick eligible for the Hall
- 8:53Speaker 2: of Fame first ballot. Look, you can make a case
- 9:01Speaker 2: for a very small handful of coaches in the NFL
- 9:04Speaker 2: to say that they're the best NFL coach of all time.
- 9:10Speaker 2: There's a very small group of coaches that you could
- 9:16Speaker 2: put into this club right that you're going to have
- 9:19Speaker 2: this discussion, and you're going to say that these are
- 9:23Speaker 2: the people that you would say are in the conversation
- 9:28Speaker 2: anyone who makes a list and Mount Rushmore, if you
- 9:32Speaker 2: want to do that, four coaches that you're going to say,
- 9:34Speaker 2: these are the four greatest NFL coaches of all time.
- 9:37Speaker 2: If you want to do that, Okay, if you want
- 9:39Speaker 2: to say here's my top five, you want to say,
- 9:41Speaker 2: here's my top three. If Bill Belichick isn't in your
- 9:47Speaker 2: top three, it's not a list. There's no like you
- 9:52Speaker 2: could make. I think you'd have a hard time making
- 9:55Speaker 2: a case that anyone other than him is the best
- 10:00Speaker 2: coach in NFL history. And you can say, well, he
- 10:03Speaker 2: had the little drop off at the end. That aside
- 10:07Speaker 2: his legacy of winning, the dynasty that he built, how
- 10:13Speaker 2: long he was able to maintain it, the fact that
- 10:16Speaker 2: it wasn't just him as a head coach winning, the
- 10:21Speaker 2: fact that you go, okay, he won as defensive coordinator.
- 10:25Speaker 2: He's part of those Giants Super Bowls back in the day.
- 10:28Speaker 2: The guy. His tree of coaches that he worked with
- 10:34Speaker 2: includes Nick Saban, who you have to in your Mount
- 10:39Speaker 2: rushmored of college football coaches. Nick Saban is there on
- 10:44Speaker 2: anyone's list, and to say otherwise, it's not a list.
- 10:49Speaker 2: And you think of the tree that Nick Saban has,
- 10:52Speaker 2: You think of Kirby Smart, who's probably the best coach
- 10:56Speaker 2: in college football now, is off of that Nick Saban tree.
- 11:01Speaker 2: So you have to appreciate the legacy that is Bill Belichick.
- 11:08Speaker 2: And if you want to dig into some of the others,
- 11:10Speaker 2: you want to go back to the forty nine ers
- 11:12Speaker 2: that like, there are other coaches that you could talk about.
- 11:15Speaker 2: But if you're top three, your top four, your Mount
- 11:18Speaker 2: Rushmore of NFL coaches doesn't include Bill Belichick. It doesn't.
- 11:24Speaker 2: It has no credibility with me none. Bill Belichick eligible
- 11:30Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame this year and did not.
- 11:33Speaker 2: He is not a first ballot Hall of Famer. What
- 11:38Speaker 2: are we doing here? Is there any credibility to the
- 11:43Speaker 2: Hall of Fame at all? If Bill Belichick isn't in
- 11:48Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, how does this happen?
- 11:52Speaker 2: I thought it was absurd and in full disclosure, I
- 11:56Speaker 2: am a New York Giants fan. When I was a kid,
- 11:59Speaker 2: I just like Lawrence Taylor became a Giants fan because
- 12:04Speaker 2: of that. That's back when Belichick was co I mean
- 12:07Speaker 2: defensive coordinator at the Giants. I became a fan of
- 12:11Speaker 2: the New York Giants and that's been my team ever since.
- 12:15Speaker 2: So for full disclosure, Eli Manning wins two Super Bowls,
- 12:23Speaker 2: two Super Bowl MVPs, two game winning drives to win
- 12:26Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, beating Belichick and Brady and the Patriots.
- 12:32Speaker 2: One of them was an undefeated team. And the whole
- 12:38Speaker 2: package of a player. There's a lot of things, and
- 12:40Speaker 2: I mean his you could say his win loss record,
- 12:43Speaker 2: that's the thing that people kind of hold against Eli.
- 12:46Speaker 2: But his iron Man status of playing, you know, fourteen
- 12:50Speaker 2: years or whatever it was in the league without missing
- 12:52Speaker 2: a game when and the only reason he missed a
- 12:55Speaker 2: game was they had a terrible coach who took him
- 12:56Speaker 2: out and didn't start him in a game, which was idiotic.
- 13:00Speaker 2: But you take that, you take the work that he
- 13:03Speaker 2: has done for the NFL since, like the stuff he
- 13:09Speaker 2: does with the Manning Cast, the things that he does
- 13:12Speaker 2: to promote the league now the New York Giants organization,
- 13:16Speaker 2: all of that is part of the consideration for Hall
- 13:19Speaker 2: of fame, and I think Eli Manning not getting in
- 13:23Speaker 2: first ballot is absurd, and people to say, the voters
- 13:26Speaker 2: would say, he's certainly a Hall of Famer, we're not
- 13:29Speaker 2: going to put him in first ballot. And that's a
- 13:32Speaker 2: ridiculous notion to me. But that's fine Bill Belichick. However,
- 13:38Speaker 2: I don't know how you justify not putting him in
- 13:40Speaker 2: first ballot. I don't understand. Even my mind is blown.
- 13:44Speaker 2: This has been the thing a lot of sports radio
- 13:45Speaker 2: has been talking about. And I don't listen to sports
- 13:47Speaker 2: talk radio. I don't don't want to hear people just
- 13:50Speaker 2: blabbing by the bah. There's certain occasions when I might
- 13:52Speaker 2: listen if there's a specific story, and this would be
- 13:54Speaker 2: one that I'd be curious to hear the takes on it,
- 13:56Speaker 2: but I had other things to do. The things to
- 14:00Speaker 2: do then listen to some of those guys scream about
- 14:04Speaker 2: and ultimately come back to why they think that the
- 14:06Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys are great or terrible. That's what sports talk
- 14:10Speaker 2: radio is. It's the Yankees, it's the Cowboys, it's the Lakers.
- 14:14Speaker 2: They're either great or they're terrible. And that's the way
- 14:16Speaker 2: they get people to listen and I know the game,
- 14:19Speaker 2: I know the way it's played. I don't care. I
- 14:21Speaker 2: don't want. I don't want to be manipulated into that
- 14:23Speaker 2: er Cowboys or yay cat don't I don't care. But
- 14:28Speaker 2: anyway that they're talking about it, and there's a lot
- 14:30Speaker 2: of very upset Hall of famers saying this is absolutely
- 14:35Speaker 2: in absolute insanity. Bill Belichick is in a first ballot. Now.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Side note on Eli Shannon Sharp, who is easily Hall
- 14:45Speaker 2: of Famer, one of the great maybe the greatest tight
- 14:48Speaker 2: end ever played the game. His brother Sterling Sharp, who
- 14:51Speaker 2: I like a lot. He played for the Packers. He
- 14:54Speaker 2: was a great commentator as well. I think he played
- 14:58Speaker 2: seven years in the league. Okay, he had injuries. Couldn't
- 15:02Speaker 2: continue on. I think Sterling Sharp was an absolute class
- 15:06Speaker 2: act as a player. Did he have a Hall of
- 15:09Speaker 2: Fame career, Well, not really. I think some of what
- 15:13Speaker 2: he did post football probably counted towards it. But his
- 15:17Speaker 2: brother had a very emotional moment at his Hall of
- 15:21Speaker 2: Fame induction and he begged the Hall to let his
- 15:24Speaker 2: brother in. He thought, you know, Sterling's a better player,
- 15:26Speaker 2: better man than I am, and he should be in
- 15:30Speaker 2: and please consider him. And then they let him in,
- 15:34Speaker 2: and it's a weird, Like I don't fully process that
- 15:38Speaker 2: if you're basing it on siblings, Like some people hold
- 15:42Speaker 2: it against Eli because you know, he's in Peyton's shadow,
- 15:47Speaker 2: and Peyton was obviously statistically the better player, and they
- 15:51Speaker 2: both ended up with two. I mean, he won MVPs,
- 15:54Speaker 2: but both ended up with two Super Bowls one Super
- 15:57Speaker 2: Bowl MVP. I guess Eli had two. So I think
- 16:01Speaker 2: it's just a weird dynamic to me. But still Eli aside,
- 16:06Speaker 2: How is Bill Belichick not a first ballot Hall of Famer?
- 16:10Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't understand Eli. By the way,
- 16:12Speaker 2: finalist again this year. He was a finalist last year.
- 16:15Speaker 2: I guess this gives him an extra slot. Maybe he
- 16:17Speaker 2: gets in. I don't know. But putting in Eli Manning
- 16:21Speaker 2: over Bill Belichick is absolute insanity and I don't get you. NFL.
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- 19:53Speaker 2: the break well, Samsung's much hyped Galaxy Z trifold phone
- 20:07Speaker 2: officially hit shelves tomorrow. It's the first trifold phone to
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- 20:17Speaker 2: their phone into a tablet. Okay, that's the good news.
- 20:24Speaker 2: The bad news, of course, is that twenty nine hundred
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- 20:31Speaker 2: that you can fold up or a tablet that you
- 20:33Speaker 2: can fold up, or however you want. Is it a
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- 20:38Speaker 2: fold up? It's both, I guess, but it's three grand
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- 20:46Speaker 2: be aware of that as well. So. According to a
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- 20:56Speaker 2: a mate online would date an AI. Fifty nine percent
- 21:02Speaker 2: believe it's possible to develop romantic feelings for one. Researchers
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- 21:11Speaker 2: which is leading them to embrace chatbots, which are getting
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- 21:21Speaker 2: we need to work on our abilities to communicate support
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- 22:12Speaker 2: structural shifts show the effects of microgravity on the human
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- 22:55Speaker 2: the day before the Super Bowl. Today's Made of Stars podcast,
- 23:00Speaker 2: Shawn Cruisen and I will be talking about a great
- 23:03Speaker 2: length about the Artemis two mission, what's going on with
- 23:06Speaker 2: the actual rocket and what's going on with the astronauts,
- 23:09Speaker 2: and the fact that they've now entered quarantine and what
- 23:12Speaker 2: that means as far as the mission moving forward, and
- 23:16Speaker 2: also some of the concerns people have about the mission.
- 23:19Speaker 2: So the idea is, yes, this one will go around
- 23:24Speaker 2: the moon. The next Artemis three rocket will actually land
- 23:27Speaker 2: on the Moon. That is the plan, and Trump says
- 23:31Speaker 2: he wants this to happen during his administration, so that
- 23:36Speaker 2: means three years get back to the moon. So kind
- 23:41Speaker 2: of an exciting time. But anyway, check that out on
- 23:43Speaker 2: the Mat of Stars podcast. Wherever you're listening to this podcast,
- 23:46Speaker 2: you can listen to that a little bit later on today. So,
- 23:51Speaker 2: a major explosion and fire broke out at the headquarters
- 23:56Speaker 2: for Rockstar North in Edinburgh, Scotland, Scotland and the lead
- 24:00Speaker 2: developer behind the highly anticipated grand Theft Auto six. Thankfully
- 24:06Speaker 2: no one injured, but the fans concerned the resulting structural
- 24:11Speaker 2: damage to the studio could lead to yet another delay
- 24:14Speaker 2: for the game. The good news, though, is that the
- 24:17Speaker 2: studio has been reopened and as long as everyone can
- 24:21Speaker 2: get back to work at full capacity, the game should
- 24:24Speaker 2: hopefully still be released in mid November. A lot of
- 24:30Speaker 2: people excited for this game been waiting for it for
- 24:33Speaker 2: a long time, so needless to say this one is
- 24:39Speaker 2: people were concerned. They just didn't want this fire and
- 24:43Speaker 2: explosion to affect it. It's kind of like when the
- 24:45Speaker 2: Wu Tang mansion flooded and they had to delay putting
- 24:50Speaker 2: out them. I just remember all those guys living in
- 24:52Speaker 2: like the projects built together into a mansion, and then
- 24:56Speaker 2: it flooded, and I don't know what happened. Eighty two
- 25:00Speaker 2: percent of households currently own a vehicle in the US,
- 25:03Speaker 2: and Arizona State University did a study that found that
- 25:07Speaker 2: nearly one fifth of American car owners are definitely interested
- 25:10Speaker 2: in going car free. Researchers were surprised to find that
- 25:15Speaker 2: this interest isn't just a trend for young people or
- 25:19Speaker 2: for those who are focused on the environment. Instead, the
- 25:21Speaker 2: idea of going car free is gaining momentum with people
- 25:24Speaker 2: of all ages, races, and income levels, and researchers also
- 25:28Speaker 2: found out that the biggest hurdle isn't the public willingness,
- 25:32Speaker 2: but rather outdated city zoning and parking laws that make
- 25:35Speaker 2: living without a car nearly impossible in most neighborhoods. Interesting stuff,
- 25:40Speaker 2: all right, that'll do it for this Thursday edition of
- 25:43Speaker 2: the show. Thanks to our sponsors and patrons. Thanks for listening.
- 25:46Speaker 2: I'll catch you back here tomorrow morning.
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