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Would you pay your rent faster if your neighbors knew you hadn't? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang and the club on nine
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  Speaker 1: four seven.
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  Speaker 2: Believe it a lot, guys, I suffer a lot from
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  Speaker 2: second hand embarrassment.
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  Speaker 3: Do you really? That's there's some things I can't watch even.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I don't like watching people get embarrassed.
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  Speaker 4: But I have exactly the same problem. But I didn't
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  Speaker 4: think that you would have this.
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  Speaker 3: Why is that, Frankie?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 6: Because I mean, you're so bold all the time, and.
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  Speaker 3: You you just used to being embarrassed all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Being embarrassed all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So I read this thing and I saw a picture.
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  Speaker 2: There is an apartment block, a townhouse complex in four
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  Speaker 2: ways where if you have not paid rent or Levey's
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  Speaker 2: or raids, they'll put a sticker up on your door
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  Speaker 2: in red, a red notice that says, hey, you are
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  Speaker 2: behind on your raids and Levey's, please make a plan.
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  Speaker 6: And then everyone can see it.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone can see it. Oh, I'm embarrassed for them.
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  Speaker 7: How much time do they give you?
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  Speaker 3: Do we know?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 7: That just this red thing just appears.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're late, too late. It could be late by
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  Speaker 3: five minutes, it could be late by five months. You late,
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  Speaker 3: go for it. Put it on my door.
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  Speaker 8: You have to put it on people's door, they have
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  Speaker 8: to learn. Really, yeah, you haven't paid, Frankie. The owner
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  Speaker 8: of the house is out of pockets. What percent take
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  Speaker 8: the door off?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, then I'm gonna give their name residents at the
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  Speaker 2: park's lifestyle apartments in four ways.
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  Speaker 7: What happened to your secondhand embarrassment?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Cindy freed me from it. Here. I am love there.
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  Speaker 3: M's just those that haven't paid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it says yeah rent over you please contact
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  Speaker 2: management urgently.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know I owe you money. What are
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  Speaker 3: you doing?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, it's sorry, frank It's also cute that you think
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  Speaker 7: sending me a red little lesson is going to make
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  Speaker 7: me pay faster.
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  Speaker 3: So if it it wouldn't worry.
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  Speaker 7: It's not gonna put money back in my pot. I
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  Speaker 7: don't have it. That's why I haven't paid.
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  Speaker 2: The people who live there were complaining say the notices
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  Speaker 2: are hard to miss, meaning anyone walking past your neighbors, visitors,
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  Speaker 2: even delivery drivers can see that you are behind on
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  Speaker 2: your payments. Some say it's an effective way to get
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  Speaker 2: the tenants attention. Others say it's a humiliation ritual. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think.
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  Speaker 7: I'm curious about whether it changes anyway in terms of
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  Speaker 7: getting the money that you need. I wouldn't be embarrassed.
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  Speaker 7: I just be like friends, you also get one. Oh
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  Speaker 7: what a day.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe that when you threaten to embarrass people
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  Speaker 2: or publicize the fact that their payments personal or business wise,
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  Speaker 2: you get your money. Because people someone it's not that
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  Speaker 2: they don't have the money, it's just that they find
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  Speaker 2: that they've.
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  Speaker 3: Got other priorities, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like your raint or your rates and
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  Speaker 2: levies that should be a priority.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Look, that's what I also want to know is after
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  Speaker 4: how long, Like if you're supposed to pound the thirty
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  Speaker 4: first and the third, the snow just goes up. That's extreme,
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  Speaker 4: But these days people are very quick to send that
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  Speaker 4: through because there's so many people who don't pay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then.
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  Speaker 8: And then you guys all complain when you've got illegal
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  Speaker 8: staying in your house because now they haven't played for
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  Speaker 8: six months, and now we've got to get people to
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  Speaker 8: come and evict them, and then ballow they're allowed to stay,
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  Speaker 8: and then it starts the whole thing. Put that put
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  Speaker 8: a luminous pinkrner and a rate one can and stroke
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  Speaker 8: lines no it's probably like really stuck there.
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  Speaker 3: It's really stuck there, like it's like laminated on. They
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  Speaker 3: sort of drilled onto your door.
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  Speaker 7: If you can't e victimy please, by the way, I've
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  Speaker 7: always loved a red door stick as many as you like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh one one eight, eight thirty eight nine four seven.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say where you live right now, if you are
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  Speaker 2: not paying rates, taxes, levies, anything, they put a big
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  Speaker 2: sign at your door, at your gate, and let's say, hi,
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  Speaker 2: you are over you and your payments.
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  Speaker 3: How would you react to that? Do you think that's fair?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that it's it's like an acceptable way
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  Speaker 2: for people to get money out of you if you
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  Speaker 2: haven't paid or any other bill that you have, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: any other.
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  Speaker 3: Bill that you have.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say Edgar's you're not paying Edgar's comes to your
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  Speaker 2: work there and they stick a big old sticker on
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  Speaker 2: your windscreen to be like yy ba bah you bought
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  Speaker 2: red square chs.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost like the estate agent boards on the pavement.
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  Speaker 1: So this one that says you haven't paid your Edgar's
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  Speaker 1: account in front of your house, your.
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  Speaker 3: Voter coom account votocment.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's fair because now suddenly you rock up
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  Speaker 8: in a new car. We're like, how's he affording this
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  Speaker 8: red sticker? Oh, he's not affording this at all.
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  Speaker 6: The embarrassment.
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  Speaker 3: No, bro, put it.
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  Speaker 8: On your Instagram if you're so proud.
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  Speaker 4: And then we all have to go swim there at
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  Speaker 4: the pool in the complex together and everyone's looking.
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  Speaker 2: At you, going, dude everything if you haven't paid your
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  Speaker 2: pool service, guys there they think a big thing that says,
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  Speaker 2: this man here has not pay don't look at this
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  Speaker 2: pool crystal blue. He hasn't paid a cent for it
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  Speaker 2: in the past month. They used to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are gonna call it
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  Speaker 2: and say. Schools do that sometimes when you behind on
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  Speaker 2: your school fees, and they'll over the intercom, do do do?
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  Speaker 8: That's not that's unfair because that's not the child exactly.
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  Speaker 8: That's not fair. But as a grown adult living in
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  Speaker 8: your own apartment and you know that the rent is
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  Speaker 8: due on the thirty first or the thirtieth other month,
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  Speaker 8: you are a grown adult.
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  Speaker 6: You owe the money.
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  Speaker 7: My school used to give us red letters. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you'd get your statement. I mean, it wouldn't be over
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  Speaker 7: the intercom, but they so it'd come in a stash
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  Speaker 7: right for the whole class. But if there was a
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  Speaker 7: red thing stuck onto your statement, everybody meant her behind
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  Speaker 7: and it was a great day because then we'd leave early.
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  Speaker 7: If you get kicked out of class and would buy
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  Speaker 7: a maguena and have a nice little afternoon of doing nothing.
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  Speaker 7: You hope your mother doesn't pay for another two days.
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  Speaker 3: So that you can start eating the sun.
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  Speaker 2: Oh one one eighty eight thirty eight nine four seven.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think this is fair? Do you think that
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  Speaker 2: it's an effective way to get people to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: be up up to date with their bills and.
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  Speaker 3: Then also with the schools as well.
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  Speaker 2: Is it fair for schools to literally yank you out
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  Speaker 2: of class and make you sit in the office so
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  Speaker 2: your parents can come pick you up if you are
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  Speaker 2: behind on your school fees?
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  Speaker 3: I think that's unfair.
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  Speaker 4: If you are currently living in one of these ten
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  Speaker 4: thousand house complexes, how many red stickers are on the doors?
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  Speaker 6: That's what I want to know?
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  Speaker 2: Zero eight four double zero double zero nine four seven.
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  Speaker 3: Let's chat about it. I love this.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's a great idea. How complex, So a
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  Speaker 9: few people that haven't paid so much so that they're
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  Speaker 9: threatening to put the water off.
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  Speaker 7: Do they charge my extra for removing the sticker?
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  Speaker 10: Is not a sticker?
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  Speaker 6: How remove it?
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  Speaker 4: I had a.
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  Speaker 2: Person sometime there and then this other time I went
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  Speaker 2: to visit his water and electricity were cut.
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  Speaker 3: Off because he was late paying that.
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  Speaker 9: Where I live currently, they don't put a red notice.
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  Speaker 9: They just plug your keyhole so they'll come and then
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  Speaker 9: they'll insert a thing in your keyhole that sort of
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  Speaker 9: looks like a plug and you won't be able to
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  Speaker 9: unlock your door.
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  Speaker 6: Is it lego though? Is it lego? Are they allowed
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  Speaker 6: to do that? It's like wheel clampings, but for your door.
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  Speaker 8: So I think it is legal. I think you can,
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  Speaker 8: as the owner sticker sticker on your apartment.
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  Speaker 3: It's yours, it's mine.
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  Speaker 8: But I think it's illegal to lock somebody out of
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  Speaker 8: their apartments, and it's illegal to switch off the water.
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  Speaker 8: So as a as a homeowner, you've got little to
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  Speaker 8: no rights as a landlord.
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  Speaker 3: So stick the sticker. Stick ten stickers.
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  Speaker 7: I like this art and crafts. I've always loved art.
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  Speaker 7: And what are we doing? I'm shush it up and
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  Speaker 7: a bit of pink.
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  Speaker 3: Can I tell you what I would do?
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  Speaker 2: I would have those stickers standing by, have twenty of them.
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  Speaker 2: And if they stick on my door, I go around
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  Speaker 2: sticking on everyone else's door.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like, we're all.
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  Speaker 6: Confuse it anymore.
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  Speaker 7: You don't know, you don't know we all because guys,
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  Speaker 7: you know that people who unfazed.
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  Speaker 2: We're all only together, guys and Gerald Ding you too, Natalie,
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  Speaker 2: good morning.
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  Speaker 11: Good morning club.
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  Speaker 12: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Natalie?
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  Speaker 10: Good?
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  Speaker 11: Thanks? And you talk to us?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think this is fair?
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  Speaker 2: Is it a nice way to get people to pay
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  Speaker 2: their rent on time?
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  Speaker 6: And nearly?
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  Speaker 11: I've got to be honest with you. I went through
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  Speaker 11: something where I lost faith in people's ability to be
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  Speaker 11: honest about their finances.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 11: Mchilay was saying how he doesn't have the money you
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  Speaker 11: can't pay. You know, I am a teacher. I'm not
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  Speaker 11: staying to mention where. But we took some students overseas
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  Speaker 11: on an overseas trip, you know, and you were talking
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  Speaker 11: about school fees on the red slips. We've got to
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  Speaker 11: do it so carefully nowadays, and obviously respect the kids
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  Speaker 11: privacy when their school fees are not paid and things.
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  Speaker 11: And anyway, we went on an overseas trip and it
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  Speaker 11: was optional, but one of the conditions was that if
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  Speaker 11: you weren't aid up in school fees.
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  Speaker 10: You can't go on a trip.
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  Speaker 11: Now the trip is over sixty thousand rounds and a
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  Speaker 11: lot of the kids who signed up were in areas
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  Speaker 11: in their school fees. Within a few months, we bought
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  Speaker 11: in over five hundred thousand rands worth of school fees
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  Speaker 11: because the parents wanted their kids to go on overseas
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  Speaker 11: ship oh, which means.
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  Speaker 3: They have the money.
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  Speaker 1: Hate that, Yeah, no, no, this is and Natalie, to
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  Speaker 1: your point, that's one thing I don't understand, Like if
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  Speaker 1: you've got a bull or you owe school fees and
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  Speaker 1: you have the money, but now you're not paying white
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  Speaker 1: because you wanted to gather interest in your account.
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  Speaker 3: Because you've got priorities.
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  Speaker 2: You've prioritized your life, and school fees isn't one of them,
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  Speaker 2: because you know nothing is going to happen to you
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  Speaker 2: until your child can't go on and overseas troop. Then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden it becomes a priority because the.
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  Speaker 7: Report sometimes with the school fees. Outside of people who
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  Speaker 7: genuinely like are in financial trouble, I find a lot
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  Speaker 7: of people work off the assumption that I still have
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  Speaker 7: another month to catch up, and before you know it,
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  Speaker 7: you actually have lost control of your time.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's it's almost like a compounding compounding fee, right
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  Speaker 2: that happens.
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  Speaker 3: And more than that, do you know how much money you.
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  Speaker 2: Must have to settle school fees and pay sixty thousand rand?
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  Speaker 6: But try you have that money?
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  Speaker 3: So put that red sticker on the door.
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  Speaker 13: Right, Frankie, Yeah, put it on now, all of a
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  Speaker 13: sudden on the classroom eleven a missus Johnny owes us
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  Speaker 13: thirty grand.
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  Speaker 2: Zero eight four double zero double zero nine four seven.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about this? And what ways do
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  Speaker 2: people do? What ways do people go to to get
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  Speaker 2: you to pay their bill? We're hearing things here. They're
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: putting locks inside a lock. Okay, they they're literally clamping
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  Speaker 2: your doors on the way. Ada will tell us exactly
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  Speaker 2: what they do in her complex. We had a colleague
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  Speaker 2: who says that they used to just come to you
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  Speaker 2: at work. Hey, yeah, really, yes, if you don't because
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  Speaker 2: when you when you move into the complex, they'll always
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  Speaker 2: ask you where do you work? And as soon as
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  Speaker 2: you behind in your arrears, let's just walk up to
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  Speaker 2: your workplace like hi, Frankie can we talk to a nearly.
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  Speaker 3: It's about the fact that she owes us raint.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, but you've come to the right place. These are
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  Speaker 7: the people who aren't paying me enough.
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  Speaker 9: All I used to go to would colors out of
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  Speaker 9: class with our chairs and put us underneath the tree
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  Speaker 9: for the whole day.
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  Speaker 14: We live in the South, such a power and Joe
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  Speaker 14: bock Water, we'll do that on a monthly basis. If
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  Speaker 14: you are late, they will give you fourteen days and
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  Speaker 14: they will pluck a big notice on your gate.
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  Speaker 3: My school used to give us letters.
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  Speaker 10: If you get a brown envelope, then we know that
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  Speaker 10: you're behind and.
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  Speaker 15: They hold you. Yeah, and don't trust you guys. Not
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  Speaker 15: yesterday saying you must embarrassed people who didn't pay you.
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  Speaker 15: People that owe you must go to their web.
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  Speaker 3: Place and stuff. Now you're changing the story.
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  Speaker 6: Second and embarrassment, okay, but.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they owe you money personally the boyfriend. That's different,
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  Speaker 2: like your ex women or your boyfriend owes you money us.
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  Speaker 3: This is different. What's different the entire thing, the entire thing.
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  Speaker 2: I did think about them, and I was just like, come,
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  Speaker 2: like embarrassing your kids for the school fees.
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  Speaker 6: No, that's not right.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, that's different.
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  Speaker 3: It's one on one.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, I stand by mine, go embarrassed that many
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  Speaker 2: thousand ladies, I under you in Midrand?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Morning? Guys?
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  Speaker 12: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: We're great?
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  Speaker 8: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Ayander?
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  Speaker 12: Thank you? So where I stay in there? We once
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  Speaker 12: had a situation where people.
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  Speaker 5: Were basically not paying and they were sitting comfortably. I
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  Speaker 5: mean we had people owing over fifty thousand, over one
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  Speaker 5: hundred thousand. So what then happened is when we brought
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  Speaker 5: in new trustees, they would then put in statements in
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  Speaker 5: the owner's group just to show exactly how much each
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  Speaker 5: person per unity is actually owing.
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  Speaker 12: And the loudest people were the ones that were actually
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  Speaker 12: not paying.
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  Speaker 5: They were saying, this is embarrassment, this, that and the other.
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  Speaker 5: Can this please be removed?
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  Speaker 12: So you know you're not paying exacts, but why aren't
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  Speaker 12: you paid?
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  Speaker 3: Why aren't you paying?
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  Speaker 14: There?
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  Speaker 2: And back to my thing about priorities. You do have
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  Speaker 2: the money, you just you're just not prioritizing this thing
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: because no one is calling you out on it, right,
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  Speaker 2: no one is calling you out in it exactly.
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  Speaker 12: So what we've n did is we get our statements
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  Speaker 12: now around about the twentieths of the month, and you'll
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  Speaker 12: get a reminder I think after the first if you
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  Speaker 12: don't pay. And then if after the eighth and.
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  Speaker 5: You received your second reminder you have not paid, they
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  Speaker 5: switch off your electricity.
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  Speaker 12: Oh just like that, just like that, and.
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  Speaker 6: You will sit on the dog seven days.
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  Speaker 12: And then you see them in the groups, please guys,
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  Speaker 12: my electricity. Where's the care taker? Can they please? And
• 13:45
  Speaker 12: then they're selling their pop for their ladies. Now now
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  Speaker 12: they've paid.
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  Speaker 3: But that's my.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the money, guys. Majority of the time, people
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  Speaker 2: or your money have got the money.
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  Speaker 3: But it's because you they've decided. No, I can put
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  Speaker 3: frank you off.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, Frank not not a priority, not a priority,
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  Speaker 2: not a priority.
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  Speaker 5: Like.
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  Speaker 2: The only exception I'll make and I'll stand by it,
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  Speaker 2: is that when.
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  Speaker 3: It comes to kids and school fees, a guys fight
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  Speaker 3: it out as adults. Hey do not. And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: People know that you don't want your kids to be
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed at school, right, so they'll react immediately. But I
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  Speaker 2: think fight it out as adults everything.
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  Speaker 3: Else put it.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder if this is allowed.
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  Speaker 4: That's my question though, So like electricity being switched off
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  Speaker 4: red now on doors.
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  Speaker 6: Is that allowed?
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's ask the chairperson of the Houting Rental House
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  Speaker 2: and Tribunal, Emmanuel Massomburger. Good morning, Welcome to an alien
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  Speaker 2: the club.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Morning, mister Massomburger. What do you think about this? Is
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  Speaker 3: it legal? Is it allowed? What are the parameters here?
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  Speaker 10: Look in terms of the cuts of electricity and water
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  Speaker 10: and for locking out of ten out of premise, that's
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  Speaker 10: purely not.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Oh no, Emmanuel, you're breaking up. It is it the
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: area you're in? Can you stand up? One leg, one
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: arm in the air.
• 15:00
  Speaker 10: I cannot, fine, I tried one. I'm in the age.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, talk to us.
• 15:05
  Speaker 10: Okay, Look, I'm saying when it comes to electricity cut
• 15:09
  Speaker 10: off and water cut off looking out a tenant without
• 15:12
  Speaker 10: a court order, that is not permitted in terms of
• 15:15
  Speaker 10: the law. In fact, the relief that a tenant can
• 15:18
  Speaker 10: do that they can appross the tribunal on an urgent
• 15:21
  Speaker 10: basis in which the case can be heard within forty
• 15:23
  Speaker 10: eight hours and a judgment given. Wow, for the restoration
• 15:27
  Speaker 10: of the electricity and water as well as access to
• 15:32
  Speaker 10: the dwelling.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, there's a they're sticking a note on your door.
• 15:37
  Speaker 10: Look, generally, what we always encourage learn those to do
• 15:42
  Speaker 10: is to take reasonable steps to recover rental. Now the
• 15:45
  Speaker 10: question is without not sticking to its not just reasonable.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I am not a reasonable What is reasonable to you
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: and what is reasonable to me?
• 16:00
  Speaker 10: And that's why we have laws, because you know, the
• 16:04
  Speaker 10: law will tell you what's reasonable and what's not. So,
• 16:07
  Speaker 10: for example, you must always have regard to the Rental
• 16:10
  Speaker 10: Housing Act as well as the entire practice regulations which
• 16:13
  Speaker 10: are promultated in terms of the Act. And then they
• 16:16
  Speaker 10: will tell you that if you have a standing range,
• 16:18
  Speaker 10: what you need to do. You need to approach that tribe,
• 16:21
  Speaker 10: you know, for an order that they must pay rent.
• 16:25
  Speaker 10: And the Act also encourages their laws to ensure that
• 16:30
  Speaker 10: they do not harass or resort to self help or
• 16:35
  Speaker 10: to even impair turn into dignity. And you know, when
• 16:38
  Speaker 10: it comes to sticking a red notice on the door,
• 16:40
  Speaker 10: one could argue harassment. That's not only harassment, but it
• 16:44
  Speaker 10: would impay a dignity of the specific tenets.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you're also impairing the dignity of my bank
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: account when.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: You're not paid.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: I know this is the problem to day.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Guys it's really really not pay because, for instance, the
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: first thing you said when we spoke to you manual
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: is that you can approach an emergency tribunal, you can
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: an emergency cord order. All of that costs money. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you've got money to take me to court, but you
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: don't have money to pay my rent.
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: But it actually doesn't cost you money. And that's a
• 17:12
  Speaker 10: good thing because the rental housing Tripeuni provides free services.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Why don't you provide accommodation.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: The tribunal is for both.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Eh so I know, and that is now thinking that
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: every person that doesn't pay is going to end up
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: with you at the tribune as a landload.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: You can use the tribunal as.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Well, get somebody in forty eight hours.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Not in forty eight hours.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: But they can take me there in forty eight hours.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Why can't it be the same.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can get that you want them to pay,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: not to evict them.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: No, okay, So the red sticker is harassment, that's what
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you're saying in manual.
• 17:51
  Speaker 10: Well, we're saying it could amount to to harassment, but
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: of course that that case must be made up before
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: the tribunal. But on the face of affected quatre amount
• 18:01
  Speaker 10: to an impairment of one's dignity and and harassment, because
• 18:04
  Speaker 10: I mean, if there are legal ways to approach a matter.
• 18:09
  Speaker 10: I mean also as a landlord, you shouldn't wait for
• 18:11
  Speaker 10: the outstanding range to accumulate. I always encourage landlords that
• 18:15
  Speaker 10: the moment that regenant is in is in default, send
• 18:19
  Speaker 10: out your letter of demand in terms of the least
• 18:21
  Speaker 10: agreement immediate that is not complied with, then immediately then
• 18:24
  Speaker 10: come to the tribunal and then we can definitely assist
• 18:28
  Speaker 10: you free of charge.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: That's why I agree with you, because when I hear though,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it is like, no, they haven't paid me rent for
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a year?
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: A yeah, yeah, year as wild?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: At which point did you think?
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: Ah?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: At three months?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: And like no I felt so No, guys, you can't
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: under one feelings?
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: A yeah ye years. Wow that's wild.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Okay man, you are as Sam book. Thank you for
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: this woman's just approach you at all times.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: We have got rental issues.
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: One hundred percent, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. I'm
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: available to assist.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Here's that chair. Oh wait, where do they
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: find you?
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: At? One twenty nine Fox Street to USASA House. Best
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: in relation to filings around Johannesburg, but in Gorelini, in
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: La Vow as well as the west Rand. We all have.
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: In Putoria, we all have. You can go, you can
• 19:17
  Speaker 10: go to the municipality. We have information officers who can
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: assist you in terms of opening up the case, trying
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: to mediate the mats and then the mets will eventually
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: be escalated to the tribunal in the event that the
• 19:29
  Speaker 10: match is not finalized.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you resolve chairperson of the Housing Rental Housing Tribunal.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: His name is Emanuel.
• 19:37
  Speaker 9: Back to making your mourning and the love on nine
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  Speaker 9: four seven