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Ep. 30 - Florida, Hanging Chads & The Day the Supreme Court Chose a President · 4DAFAM

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  Welcome to episode 30 of For The Fam Podcast.
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  The Mike Brown episode. Man, stop.
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  If you don't call this the Steph Curry episode. Chicago, baby.
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  I hear you. Two of the most memorable victories in Bears history.
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  Back-to-back pick sixes, back-to-back weeks.
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  I hear you. I hear you. I could have called it the Tim Raines episode and showed
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  some more love to the Southsiders. all right.
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  No the first thing I said was Steph I'm like ah this is Steph Mike Brown wore number 30,
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  I'm still going with Steph, but I'll give you the Bears, Mike Brown.
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  But I'm still, Steph is the most famous number 30 at this point. That's a great season.
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  Yeah. It was a great season, though. I can't argue with that.
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  2001. Yeah, 2001, I believe. He was just undersized, which means he was always injured.
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  Sure, having them big-ass shoulder pads probably weighed him down, too.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was a great player for the Bears, though,
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  even if it was short-lived.
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  Anyway, what are we getting into today, bro? So today we're going to talk about
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  the famous 2000 presidential election
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  between George Bush and the man who invented the Internet, Al Gore.
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  He did say he invented the Internet, too.
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  That's a funny rabbit hole, too. That's a funny rabbit hole, too. Yeah.
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  All right. So we're going to rewrite history a little bit, right?
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  Yes, sir. All right, cool. Let's get into it.
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  You want me to? All right. Well, let's start. All right. All right.
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  Well, let's let's see here.
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  So to give a little history, a little backstory before we rewrite history,
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  because I think the rewriting history
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  will be like the most interesting or entertaining part of this topic.
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  But just to give a little back story, the 2000 U.S.
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  Presidential election between George Bush and Al Gore remains one of the most
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  significant legal and political dramas in American history.
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  Why? Man, so many things. So many things.
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  But there is one thing in particular that I'm referring to.
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  Why is why it's like like the first like like it was unprecedented.
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  In it is what i'm i guess is what i'm getting just the uh well one
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  it didn't end on election night and was
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  fought in the courts that part so that was the
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  first one that was legitimately in my opinion fought in the courts yep but revisiting
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  this topic because we lived through it man it was so many things it it you're
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  right there were so many things but the the reason why it was unprecedented for the listeners,
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  the Supreme Court actually decided this election.
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  So to go back in the story, it was a highly contested, very close presidential
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  election, and it came down to the state of Florida.
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  Jeff, G-Dub's big brother, was the governor of Florida at the time.
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  And, well, there was a whole lot of controversy with counting the votes.
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  But hold on. I'm going to throw something else in there, too.
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  He gets a lot of flack, deservedly so.
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  Katherine Harris was the secretary of state. She was also the head of George
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  Bush's Florida political campaign.
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  She was responsible for all votes counted in the state and also the head,
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  the head of his political campaign in that state. Make that shit make sense.
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  It doesn't make sense. But this is also what doesn't make sense because this is the year 2000.
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  This isn't 1980.
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  This isn't 1984. This is the year 2000. Why were they still using paper ballots
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  that you had to indent or scribble on?
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  Why wasn't there just an electrical ballot at that point or electronic, I guess I should say?
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  And why did they need human assistance to count on?
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  Which was part of the problem. Well, at that time, it wasn't regulated because
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  those electronic ballots were still new.
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  I mean, hell, we got them in Indiana pretty fast. I mean, go figure.
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  Can't get the rolls fixed for a new ballot. But you didn't have uniform ballots.
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  Voting privileges across the board in every county in florida
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  you had some people using old machines some
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  using the newer ones so it was it was just a
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  and one of the largest counties in florida is where a lot of this stuff when
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  it came to the recount took place and that was dade county right but the biggest
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  problem is the butterfly ballots yep so let me let me briefly try and Explain
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  what a butterfly ballot is.
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  And basically, it's, according to the research,
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  a confusing two page ballot design that led to thousands of elderly Jewish voters
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  to accidentally cast their votes for the Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan instead of Al Gore.
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  Who he later admitted those thirty six hundred votes he got,
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  the overwhelming majority would have been Al Gore's.
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  And the hanging chads, which we were just talking about with the indentions,
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  was basically a punch card ballot.
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  And if a voter didn't make a hard enough punch that went all the way through,
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  they basically threw out the ballot because they said they could not determine
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  what the voter was actually trying to do.
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  Now, here's the crazy part.
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  That didn't happen that way in every single county.
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  Some counties were recounting the votes based on what the voter intended by hand.
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  So I think there was like four different characterizations of what a Chad is.
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  And I can't, unfortunately, I can't find them right now in my notes.
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  But like Palm Beach was different from Dade County. Dade County was different from Duval.
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  Because like I'm just throwing a county out there say Duval was just like well
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  clearly they were voting for Gore clearly they were voting for Bush other counties
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  were like nah throw him out right,
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  Which one that blows my mind is the voter purge. Yep.
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  They say between 12,000 and 50,000.
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  Bro, that's like saying, well, how much money you own? I don't know,
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  somewhere between $5 and 7 million. It's a big disparity.
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  That's a huge disparity.
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  Not 12,000, 13,000. Okay. Yeah.
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  So you're telling me potentially somewhere between 12 and 50,000 people. Mm-hmm.
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  Were purged from the voter records. And most of them were, I be damned, Black.
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  Go figure, right? Go figure. So here's where the controversy comes in, right?
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  One, like you said, that they couldn't determine the results of the election the first night.
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  36 days, I think. Yeah, it took a very long time.
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  And once the results did come out, of course, naturally, they were disputed.
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  What makes this unprecedented, and this is a long legal, we're skipping a lot,
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  but this is a long legal battle that ultimately ended up in the Supreme Court.
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  And that's where the controversy really comes in,
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  because generally elections are decided by the states is up to that state to
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  decide or to determine what votes will or will not be counted.
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  It is not up to the Supreme Court.
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  So to make a long story short, one Bush conceded, which he should have never
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  conceded Gore. I'm sorry, Gore conceded. Thank you.
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  Gore conceded, which he should have never conceded. But the Supreme Court basically
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  stopped the recount and declared G-Dub the winner, thus giving him the presidency.
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  So here's where it gets kind of fickled. Use one of my mother's words.
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  The ballot was created by a Democrat.
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  And the sad thing was, is her goal was to change the ballots where it didn't
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  confuse elderly voters.
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  And I'm sure you've seen a picture of the ballot.
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  Yeah. Even now, if you put that in front of me and I'm 50 years old,
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  I'd look at that and go, who the hell am I voting for?
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  It's crazy. So is is.
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  Should we should we should we start rewriting history now or is that we need
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  to go further into the backstory or.
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  I think that I'm trying to think of anything important that we're missing.
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  Well, obviously. Well, I mean, there was there was there was the Brook Brothers
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  riot that occurred where I think January 6th on a smaller scale.
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  Again, history just repeats itself. With a bunch of rich lawyers.
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  Yeah. Standing outside of what the voter registration.
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  Yeah. Basically intimidating, which also interfered with the recount.
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  Miami, Miami County stopped. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah. They were they were basically scared and they just said,
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  forget it. We're not we're not even going to attempt.
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  I remember because these guys just, yeah, went and were all dressed up like
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  the Monopoly man or something. Well, no, they were all attorneys.
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  Right. And they had on like suits and briefcases. And they didn't have on a
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  briefcase, but they had on suits, you know, briefcases in their hands. Banging on the windows.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of those people that were recounting those votes,
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  you know, middle aged people from that county. They're like,
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  man, we don't want to be involved in this.
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  We're just going to shut it down. And that's exactly what happened.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's not forget, they purged. This is the last thing.
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  They purged any felons, which is fine.
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  During that time, felons weren't even allowed to vote anywhere in this country, I don't think.
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  But what they were doing is they were taking the names.
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  And if the name matched felons from any other state, they were put on a list.
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  So if the names matched anywhere else, they consider them felons. Yeah.
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  One last thing. And I do think that this is important.
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  To this day, they still don't really know who won Florida.
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  If you if you go by one group, they'll tell you that Gore had the most votes.
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  If you go by the electoral, I think it is, they'll tell you that Bush had more votes.
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  So it's all of these years later, 26 years later, there's still a dispute about
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  who actually won Florida.
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  So sorry. Now I'm adding one more thing because I'm glad you brought that up.
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  This was the other thing in 2001 they
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  hired an outside firm had they
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  counted the votes the way that gore wanted them
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  to be counted gore would have won gore would have lost oh
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  interesting had had they done it the way he wanted
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  it had they done it the way they were doing it bush still would have won had
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  they not purged and used a butterfly ballot they're saying that Gore probably
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  would have won by somewhere between 60 to 171 votes.
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  Interesting. So, I mean, so it was still close. Oh, hell yeah.
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  But... Because Florida wasn't mean... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean...
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  You can say that they took that presidency. It felt like it,
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  man. It totally felt like it at the time.
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  You can say that they took it from Gore, but it was close enough that, you know.
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  All these years later, you can look at it and go, okay.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see their logic and their ruling, basically.
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  Because at the time, it felt like. Oh, it felt massive. Cut it off. We're done. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Especially with the whole Chad controversy and all that.
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  It was just like hanging Chad.
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  And I mean, like we could see like, no, you could totally see that indention.
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  What do you mean you can't tell?
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  Yeah. So it was it was it was really weird. So now let's let's just rewrite some history, bro.
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  This is the fun part. And we when we say we're going to rewrite history,
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  the next few minutes, we're going to talk about the what ifs.
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  What if Gore won instead of Bush?
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  How would that affect history up into present day?
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  This is going to be fun.
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  What's probably the biggest thing that wouldn't have happened if Gore won instead of Bush?
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  Trump? Yes, but we'll get to that. I know I'm getting ahead. Yes, we'll get to that.
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  Probably 9-11 in Afghanistan.
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  Afghanistan for sure. Yeah, probably wouldn't have happened if Gore had won.
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  Because Clinton and Gore, they were already tracking Osama bin Laden.
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  They already considered him a major threat.
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  So they would have had more intel, more eyes on him.
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  So they probably wouldn't have been allowed to commit the 9-11 terror attack.
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  Thus, we wouldn't have gone to Afghanistan. So that's why I say that's probably
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  the biggest thing that wouldn't have happened under Gore because they were already on to it.
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  Not a definite, but right.
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  Possibly. So I got one on that same too.
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  It says, so if 9-11 still doesn't occur, the retaliation is strictly limited
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  to Afghanistan and dismantling Al-Qaeda.
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  I did see. However, though, although you and I both agree we should have never
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  been in Iraq, Saddam Hussein had to go one way or another.
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  He was definitely a bad character. Yeah.
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  But I'm just saying, you know, all of those people, all of those deaths,
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  the Twin Towers may still be standing.
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  You know, those people may have survived, you know.
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  So that's like the biggest thing for me is all of those deaths probably could have been avoided.
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  Climate change policies. Correct. We would be further along because Al Gore
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  was big on the environment and still lives to this day. It's like one of his,
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  I was about to say hobby, but I don't think he would characterize it as a hobby.
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  But it's one of his policy, one of his stronger policy positions is he was very
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  much about the environment and green energy and et cetera, et cetera.
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  Because we really didn't start really pushing green energy into like the 2010s.
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  Right. It would have started eight years earlier.
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  Correct, correct. Which means we would be further along in the process than
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  we are today. Even further, because a lot of that stuff has been rolled back that Obama did.
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  Correct. You're you're 100 percent. And it's funny that you bring up Obama because
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  that's probably also a big development.
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  Yeah. If Gore had won two terms, two terms, we probably wouldn't have Obama as president.
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  Obama was a direct response to G-Dub and the war and all of that stuff.
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  So he came bringing a different message of hope and, you know,
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  world peace and all of that kind of stuff.
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  So had Gore won and been a two term.
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  Maybe his vice would have slid right into that or maybe a Republican would have won. I doubt it.
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  I, the biggest one for me, well, other than obvious, you know,
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  9-11 and the war, we wouldn't be having discussions that we generally have,
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  whether on this podcast or just when we have conversations throughout the week.
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  Supreme Court would be full of liberals at this point.
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  Well. A lot of this shit that he's doing now, Supreme Court would be like,
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  nah, bro, we ain't doing that.
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  Funny you should say that, because you know who got elected under Bush?
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  One you know for sure.
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  John Roberts, Samuel Alito. Yeah.
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  Perhaps if Gore won, neither one of these guys would be on the Supreme Court. At all.
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  At all. Right. At all.
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  Because he would have, I mean, Gore would have absolutely appointed two Democratic
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  justices for Supreme Court.
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  Which means Roe v. Wade would still be applied.
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  Yep. We wouldn't be in this voter rights discussion, which we shouldn't be in anyway.
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  I mean, just the whole trajectory of the country would be completely different.
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  Which is just wild. It is. Just based on one event, one state,
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  one event, the whole trajectory of the country could be different.
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  Going back to Obama If Obama doesn't win Maybe Trump never runs And we got a
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  whole different president today And we're not involved in a senseless war And we're not killing,
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  still killing people Out at sea,
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  off the coast of Venezuela And tariffs that's ruining the global economy.
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  Just no Trump, period, would make the world a completely different place.
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  So with that, he would still be looked at.
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  And y'all, we're not going to go off into a Trump rant, but he would still be
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  looked at as the clown that most of the socialites in New York City have seen him as since the 70s.
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  And that's not disparaging. like you can look up like
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  i always reference martha stewart in the 90s when she was
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  doing the show and somebody says something about trump and she
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  was like oh god don't get me started on that idiot that was
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  like the mid 90s like people
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  don't understand you know what no different
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  different episode let's just keep going all right well we we
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  probably wouldn't have a tea party because they
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  were also a direct response to obama which
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  means we wouldn't have people like jim Jordan and all
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  of those lunatics are ruining government and
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  and all of these anti-black policies
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  that they keep trying to push through you know maybe we would have been on even
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  with the Republican president maybe we would have been on a path of progression
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  instead of recession which I feel like we're in as far as matters of race because even with.
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  Even though we didn't like Bush's policies, I don't think you or I ever felt
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  this country's in a really bad position right now.
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  This dude's going to have us back 200 years.
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  Like, you know what I'm saying? He was bad for the economy.
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  But yeah, it was just typical Republican, Democrat type stuff. Yeah.
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  You didn't think. Yeah, we did call him stupid sometimes. Yeah, sure.
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  But we didn't think he was incapable of standing on a world stage and representing us.
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  Correct. You know, he had his little, you know, fool me once, fool me twice.
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  Right, right. Or the people in Iraq throwing the shoe at him.
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  Right, which was great, by the way. Hilarious. You know what else we wouldn't have? Red and blue.
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  Had Gore won. Why you say that? Glad you asked.
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  We're so used to red and blue, we don't realize that before this election,
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  red and blue didn't exist.
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  So throughout the fight, during the court battles, networks just agreed,
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  we'll just use red for Republicans and blue for Democrats.
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  So when you see it on TV, that didn't exist before that election.
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  Really? Nope. Go back and look at some of the old electoral maps while MSNBC
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  are seeing, none of that shit's red and blue.
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  That's interesting. And I had to look it up twice. I'm like,
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  well, no, it's always been red and blue.
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  Nope. go back and look at like Ronald Reagan and, and, and all of it. Nope.
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  That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. They say that it just, they adopted that as
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  a standard after that election, all networks were like, all right,
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  yeah, we'll just keep it that way.
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  Yeah. Yeah. If anybody listening says I'm wrong, tell me, I'm,
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  you know, tell me how I'm wrong.
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  Cause I, you know, the, the two or three sources I looked up, they said,
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  because they said blue was the traditional color of conservatism
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  before then interesting that i
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  yeah i'm i'm actually i'm gonna look that up when we finish
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  because yeah i want to see some uh stories
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  about that that's that's that's yeah wow i
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  like that i like that anything uh else as
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  far as rewriting history what any what else we want to oh wait we wouldn't have
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  ice no we wouldn't we wouldn't have ice because ice was a direct response to
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  9-11 we also wouldn't have the patriot act because algorne would have never he would have never yep,
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  the Patriot Act, he would have been like, no. Especially someone,
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  I know we joke about him, have been in the internet, but the reason that that
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  is such a huge thing is because,
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  he was instrumental in helping expand the World Wide Web while he was the vice
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  president. So that's why it gets talked about a lot.
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  He would have been like, well, no, we didn't expand the internet for you guys
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  to be able to track folks. Right.
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  Airport security? Yep. I mean, like,
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  Bro, I can't take my toenail, Clippers? Right, right, right.
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  All of that was a direct response to 9-11, all instituted by the Bush campaign.
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  This is too much water. Correct. Take on the TSA.
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  You know how many times I stood in TSA and had to down a bottle of water?
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  Correct. Because I didn't want to waste my money?
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  All of that take your shoes off and all of that kind of stuff.
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  None of that was ineffective.
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  Well, the shoe bomber messed that up for us. Well, yeah, but.
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  For those who are too young to know what that is, look up to Shoebom.
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  Yeah. That was wild. It really was.
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  But yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, our lives would be completely different if Al
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  Gore had won instead of Bush.
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  And he probably would have been a two-term president. Most likely.
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  Because he was still, I mean, he was older, but he was still.
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  No, he was young enough. Yeah, he was young enough. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, yeah. He was definitely younger than Clinton.
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  Yeah. And I mean, he seemed likable. He was charismatic.
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  You know, he was well-spoken. I don't think he would have done anything too
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  outlandish that would have made, you know, I mean, there is always going to
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  be people who just weren't going to support him because of the D.
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  But I don't think he would have done anything that would have been so outlandish.
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  And no trillion dollars spending in the Middle East? the budget there you go
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  the budget man just so much bro so much and and i mean like.
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  Isis a direct response to
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  us being in afghanistan yeah these type yeah yeah yeah
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  yeah so so perhaps terrorism wouldn't be what it is today is on the scale on
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  on the scale correct correct Just so many things that we've accepted that really
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  didn't have to occur. I mean, that could have been different.
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  Like we were just saying from just one state had one event just happened and
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  they just said, go, you're the winner or let Florida.
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  I mean, because that was the other thing they kept saying that it was it would
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  take too much time to recount Florida. Oh, yeah.
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  Which which doesn't make sense. I mean, get it right. Why? It don't matter.
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  Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Get it right. But yeah, the fact that they were like,
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  they don't have enough time to recount.
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  They needed to move forward with the election, which is, yeah,
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  another way that the Supreme Court basically put their thumb on the scale,
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  for lack of a better term. Yeah, I don't have to keep down.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  The only other thing I want to say about that is keep your eyes open on 2028.
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  Let's just see if the Supreme Court actually does something to influence that election as well.
• 26:25
  I mean, because they're all a bunch of Trump cronies at this point, at least six of them are.
• 26:30
  So so something to keep our eye out on. I, gosh, what am I trying to say?
• 26:35
  Something to look forward to.
• 26:36
  Let's put it like that to see if they get involved in this 2028 election,
• 26:42
  unless it's a landslide where it won't matter which praying.
• 26:46
  That is just a landslide and and
• 26:49
  the republican loses yeah i'm saying that all right
• 26:52
  bro uh anything else you want to nah i
• 26:55
  think that's uh i think we pretty well covered it all right cool let's let's
• 27:00
  uh transition into our current events you you want to start you want me to start
• 27:05
  you go ahead because i i got i got i got one more thing to look up all right
• 27:10
  well i i got two things that I want to discuss.
• 27:13
  The first thing I want to discuss is this case that acting AG Todd Blanche is
• 27:23
  trying to bring against the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 27:28
  This is the craziest indictment that I've ever seen in my life.
• 27:37
  So basically, the Southern Poverty Law Center, like their main objective is
• 27:45
  to fight against hate groups.
• 27:47
  By any means necessary. They fight hate.
• 27:50
  What this indictment is alleging is that the group designed to fight hate groups somehow I.
• 28:03
  Supports hate groups. Yeah. If you think that that's dumb and it doesn't make
• 28:08
  any sense, that's because it is dumb and it doesn't make any sense.
• 28:13
  So what they're the crime they're trying to charge them with is fraud.
• 28:19
  And they're basically saying that the donors are the ones who were frauded.
• 28:25
  But none of the donors have filed a complaint.
• 28:28
  But the donors were were
• 28:31
  frauded because they didn't know that the SPLC used informants and those informants
• 28:42
  somehow indirectly supported hate groups like the KKK and the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.
• 28:51
  So so basically doing what the FBI does all the time right now,
• 28:56
  somewhere in this country. Use informants to infiltrate Donnie Brasco terrorists.
• 29:01
  Donnie Brasco is a perfect example.
• 29:04
  But to put this on a simpler scale, to dumb this down, if you will,
• 29:13
  and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to call anyone dumb.
• 29:16
  This would be like them accusing the NCAA.
• 29:21
  I'm sorry, NCAA, my mind on basketball. This would be like them trying to accuse
• 29:26
  the NAACP of being racist against black people.
• 29:31
  I mean, it's it's it's bizarro world. What are we doing here?
• 29:37
  It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.
• 29:41
  You mind? No, not at all.
• 29:45
  So the three civil rights workers.
• 29:50
  From Mississippi? Mississippi. Okay. That would kill, that traveled down from Chicago.
• 29:55
  We still wouldn't know where they are if it wasn't for organizations like the
• 30:00
  NAACP and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 30:04
  Somebody was paid to take the FBI to where that car was and where those three young men were buried.
• 30:15
  Money from donors did that. How in God's name, other than racism,
• 30:23
  do you take someone to court for doing something that the CIA,
• 30:29
  the FBI, the DEA, local police officers. Correct.
• 30:32
  No, it's not from donors, but it's our tax money. Correct. That's paying these people. Correct.
• 30:37
  There's a police officer somewhere. There's an organization somewhere right
• 30:41
  now in this city that's paying them for it. Correct.
• 30:45
  It makes no sense, bro. It's just a way to go after.
• 30:50
  It's kind of like how, what did they get Al Capone for? Tax evasion.
• 30:54
  Correct. Well, we can't get him for this. Let's just go out now.
• 30:58
  Obviously, I'm not comparing. Thank you. Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 31:01
  Thank you. Thank you. But I mean, just the situations. It's just like,
• 31:05
  well, we don't like you, Al.
• 31:07
  You know what? We're going to
• 31:08
  get you one way or the other. We're going to get you one way or the other.
• 31:11
  Donald Trump has hated the Southern Poverty Law Center since the 80s. Right.
• 31:15
  He's been going after them forever so obviously anything they can do to take
• 31:20
  them down but this by far is the dumbest legal suit I can think of in recent history.
• 31:26
  I'd be shocked if it make it to court. Oh no, this should be.
• 31:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd really be shocked but I mean they were also instrumental
• 31:34
  in bringing the Klan members to justice for the 16th Street church bombing right? Yes, yes.
• 31:41
  So yeah, it's just nuts that This organization has a track record.
• 31:49
  Of going against hate groups and
• 31:53
  you're alleging that they
• 31:56
  are the sponsors of hate groups
• 32:00
  it's the most idiotic thing i've ever heard
• 32:03
  man so you know what i said as we
• 32:05
  said it's the most egregious this is probably the second most egregious
• 32:09
  lawsuit brought from this this administration in the
• 32:12
  last three weeks the fact that now a
• 32:15
  federal judge in florida stopped this that 10 million that
• 32:18
  10 billion oh yes yes yes so yes but it's
• 32:21
  it's it's lawsuits like that that makes
• 32:24
  you realize that there's more to come there's gonna
• 32:27
  be something stupid something further i mean hell just cash patel there you
• 32:32
  go it's like because that was next on my list like bro you yeah you suing who
• 32:38
  yeah and then when he announced the lawsuit more witnesses came forward Correct.
• 32:46
  Here's here's the all of the catch for tail stuff is idiotic.
• 32:52
  And he's going to look like a fool if that.
• 32:55
  Honestly, we should want that one to go to court because he would get embarrassed.
• 33:00
  Well, Discovery in Discovery.
• 33:02
  Exactly. Exactly. We should want that one. But here's the funny thing about that.
• 33:09
  In what universe were you ever going to make $250 million, bro?
• 33:14
  Why are you suing for $250 million like defaming your character is going to
• 33:23
  take $250 million out of your pocket? Mojo, please.
• 33:32
  Before this, you were hocking Scully's with a dollar sign on your podcast. Thank you, bro.
• 33:40
  250 million in damages. Bro, even if you won, you couldn't say with a straight
• 33:47
  face that 1 million is, you know, a good number of your potential income.
• 33:55
  You're never going to sniff 250 million. I do hope it goes forward because I
• 33:59
  would I would pay money to see the tape of that deposition. Right.
• 34:03
  I'd pay money to see him fold. Right. Because people don't understand,
• 34:07
  man. You sitting in a room half the size of your kitchen.
• 34:12
  Right. At a table for hours. Yeah.
• 34:16
  Answering. Remember the Lil Wayne deposition video with Lil Wayne was like,
• 34:20
  yo, man, I'm done with this.
• 34:21
  Like, yeah, people don't understand that that's hours of your time. Yeah.
• 34:27
  And if you're fabricating any of it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're done. You're done.
• 34:32
  You're done. And you know, they always say it's hard to keep your lies straight,
• 34:37
  which we know he's lying about stuff. The Atlantic is like, bring it.
• 34:41
  Our lawyers are ready. Yeah. They're like, bring it, dude.
• 34:45
  This was vetted and we ain't got nothing to worry about.
• 34:50
  Right. So, yeah. The other thing I want to say about that, with all of these
• 34:55
  macho mega guys who want to pretend to be so tough, what's the first thing they do?
• 35:03
  I'm going to sue. Cry. I'm going to sue.
• 35:07
  You said something bad about me. I'm going to sue. The first thing they want
• 35:10
  to do is sue. But you guys are so tough.
• 35:14
  I'm going to sue. I'm going to tell. What they call them snowflakes.
• 35:18
  Yeah. But y'all are the first ones to. yeah go cry
• 35:21
  and try and get a lawyer and or somebody confronts you
• 35:24
  in public now i'm the angry black guy right
• 35:27
  right and yeah whatever i'm
• 35:32
  i'm done with my current events bro go ahead so my
• 35:35
  current event transitions to a
• 35:38
  rant so i'm gonna talk halfway about
• 35:42
  it okay have you seen this bullshit with
• 35:45
  michael beckwith and westfield high school no so
• 35:49
  westfield high school is like their band is really
• 35:52
  good and they did a performance now for
• 35:55
  those who don't live in indiana westfield high school is predominantly republican
• 36:00
  predominantly white just leave it at that he's going after them because the
• 36:08
  performance they gave was i quote demonic so i'm thinking demonic. The marching band?
• 36:16
  Yeah, the marching band's performance was demonic. So the first thing I thought
• 36:21
  to myself was Westfield High School?
• 36:25
  Like, them parents out there ain't going for no demonic like,
• 36:29
  what are you talking about?
• 36:31
  The set that they performed on, colors, red and black.
• 36:36
  Okay. That's demonic, apparently. Which reminds me of the Satanic Panic from
• 36:40
  the 80s. Like, everything was demonic.
• 36:42
  So, that's part of it. And then the song that they were singing,
• 36:47
  which I have lost which song they were singing.
• 36:50
  But anyway, they were singing the song, and he said it was demonic.
• 36:54
  So, he is literally attacking them, asking that the Westfield superintendent steps down.
• 37:01
  Which is what he did in Valpo as well. He tried to get the superintendent to step down.
• 37:07
  This is the same man whose youth pastor or the guy that was a pastor with him
• 37:11
  was arrested for child sex crimes, I think, you know, reckless speculation.
• 37:17
  But there was a guy that he's affiliated with that was arrested for some sort
• 37:21
  of child sex crimes, I thought, a couple of weeks ago. I'd have to look that up.
• 37:25
  But he's literally like every day he doubled down.
• 37:29
  Like they came out, released a statement saying, well, yeah,
• 37:32
  no, it's not demonic. This is the performance.
• 37:34
  It is what it is. I'm gonna stop right there then
• 37:38
  I'm gonna transition to the rant all right so
• 37:41
  before we transition into the rant because I'm
• 37:43
  gonna let you just go ahead and continue I just want
• 37:46
  to say I'm really sick of these folk Christians I'm sick of him like him no
• 37:52
  I'm sick of all of them though bro I'm I'm I'm sick of these fake Christians
• 37:56
  trying to be so holy and righteous and yet your policies are anti-Christian.
• 38:05
  They're anti-Bible.
• 38:06
  They're anti-Jesus.
• 38:09
  I'm just so sick of it. I'm like, would you guys please go read a Bible and
• 38:16
  see how your policies do not align with the teachings of Jesus Christ?
• 38:22
  If he showed up tomorrow, he would be vilified and demonized.
• 38:27
  For sure.
• 38:29
  For sure. They would say he was weak on immigration. You want to feed everybody?
• 38:33
  You want to. Exactly. You're a socialist.
• 38:36
  They need to work for their cell. Right.
• 38:38
  Right. You don't like guns. What do you mean you're nonviolent?
• 38:42
  Because they didn't exist.
• 38:44
  Well, not only that, but even when Peter chopped off dude ear,
• 38:49
  he picked his ear up and put it back on and was like, bro, we don't get down like that.
• 38:55
  Nah, you know, Jesus, you gotta... See, the thing is, they would expect the Jesus that.
• 39:02
  You know what's crazy is so many conservatives in this country believe Jesus
• 39:05
  was an American for some reason. Which is wild. Let me say that again.
• 39:09
  There are people in this country, because have I heard anybody say,
• 39:13
  hey, Jesus was American? No.
• 39:14
  But I see your Facebook posts where Jesus holding the Bible and there's a gun
• 39:18
  on top of the Bible and Jesus has on like an American flag.
• 39:23
  What? With just a post that Trump put up the other day with Jesus in his arm
• 39:28
  around him and the American flag in the back. Yeah.
• 39:32
  No, no, absolutely not. Jesus would dislike all of them.
• 39:37
  All, all, bro. All, not some.
• 39:43
  All right, y'all, we're going, we're going to just keep this party rolling.
• 39:47
  We're going to transition right into our rant about a random topic.
• 39:52
  Just continue, brother. So, to be a little more specific, the issue that he
• 39:58
  took was the aesthetic of the show.
• 40:00
  He said it was just basically another example of public schools basically trampling
• 40:06
  on Christian conservative families.
• 40:08
  So, he spoke out encouraging parents of Westfield to pull their children from
• 40:13
  public schools and use the vouchers.
• 40:15
  Now, I'm sure somewhere in there, there's a reasoning.
• 40:19
  Oh, for sure. For that. For sure. somebody's getting someone's getting paid
• 40:24
  under from from from the private school uh.
• 40:28
  Enrollment. So the school's response, which I feel needs to be said,
• 40:31
  it says that it was a brief statement, too. They didn't even entertain his bullshit.
• 40:36
  They were like, man, let's just say a couple of words and get on.
• 40:39
  They said they remain their focus remains unchanged, committed to student learning,
• 40:44
  music education and creating a positive environment. That was it.
• 40:47
  He read that double down again.
• 40:50
  And the reason he said that he attacked them is because some students,
• 40:55
  Of course, these mystery students
• 40:57
  reached out and said that they felt intimidated and uncomfortable.
• 41:03
  So was this like a halftime of a basketball game or a football game?
• 41:09
  No, I think it was just a performance that was released on YouTube because he posted the video.
• 41:13
  And man, the students are like, was it a mandatory pep rally of some sort? I don't know.
• 41:19
  Because what I'm getting at is if you didn't like it, then just leave.
• 41:24
  But that's how we grew up. You didn't have to be there. Turn the TV.
• 41:28
  You don't want to see nakedness? Yeah. Turn the TV. What's his name? Benjamin Bratt.
• 41:33
  Yeah. Remember when he showed his bare ass on national TV? What was the show?
• 41:39
  NYPD Blue? Something like that, yeah.
• 41:41
  And people lost their bare minds? Yeah, which was a good show, by the way. Oh, yeah.
• 41:46
  But it was just like people who were for that were just like, just turn the TV.
• 41:53
  Yeah. There's other programs that you can watch. Just turn it to. Right.
• 41:57
  But I started thinking, who the hell is Michael Beckwith?
• 42:02
  What does he do? Yeah. Who is he?
• 42:06
  Yeah. How does this whole thing work? Because when I think of Mike Braun and
• 42:11
  you think of Beckwith, you say to yourself, these dudes don't even...
• 42:16
  How the hell do you know we're stuck with this dumb ass for the next for the whole term?
• 42:22
  Like, there's nothing Mike Brown can do. I don't know if Mike Brown would want to.
• 42:27
  You know, like, interesting. Apparently, like, I was unaware of some of the
• 42:31
  public statements. Mike Brown does not like this, dude.
• 42:34
  Interesting. He has taken a step back. Like when he talked about the three fifths
• 42:38
  compromise, you know, Mike Brown stepped in was like, oh, no, no, no.
• 42:41
  I don't think that. I don't believe that. Because, you know,
• 42:45
  in this state, he's voted on.
• 42:47
  But I also didn't realize that Mike Braun didn't pick him.
• 42:53
  He forced his way into that position.
• 42:57
  Explain that. He went straight to the Republican Party of Indiana and was like,
• 43:02
  yeah, I want to run for lieutenant governor.
• 43:03
  Mike Braun didn't pick him. Interesting. No.
• 43:07
  That's interesting. Yeah. Which I didn't know. No, neither did I.
• 43:11
  Yeah, Mike Brown had nothing to do with this dude being in office.
• 43:15
  Wow, that's nuts. The other thing I want to touch on real quick is this is exactly
• 43:21
  why we have a separation of church and state.
• 43:24
  Because we don't need.
• 43:27
  And let me just state for the record. I believe in God. I believe in the Bible.
• 43:34
  All right. But we don't need people's misguided religious doctrines trying to
• 43:43
  determine what the rest of us can and cannot do,
• 43:48
  which is exactly why the forefathers stated that there should be a separation
• 43:54
  of church and state. what if you're Muslim?
• 43:57
  What if you're Hindu? What if you're Buddhist?
• 44:01
  This is how these things infringe upon people's rights. This is.
• 44:09
  One hundred percent why we need a separation of church and state and why we
• 44:15
  don't need Christian nationalism in America and why we need to get all of these people far,
• 44:22
  far, far away from government, especially like we were just saying is Jesus
• 44:29
  wouldn't even rock with y'all.
• 44:30
  So y'all whole Christian doctrine is just corrupted. It's so just anti Bible at this point.
• 44:39
  No, no. You go practice that over there and do all of that stuff with you and
• 44:46
  your camp. Leave the rest of us alone.
• 44:49
  And you notice how they're always talking about what we don't want,
• 44:52
  which is hilarious in this country.
• 44:55
  We don't want Sharia law in this country. We don't want this. We don't want that.
• 44:58
  It's exactly what you want. It's just a different name.
• 45:02
  A different religion. Yeah, just a different name. You would love to make Christian
• 45:07
  nationalism the law of the land.
• 45:09
  If the president sat on the throne and to his left and right were his religious advisors. Yep.
• 45:16
  Not Secretary of State. Yep. Hey, Father, what should we do now? Yep. Yep.
• 45:21
  Yep. 100%. They would 100% love it. Absolutely.
• 45:27
  You finished with that, bro? Yeah, I mean, I can go on forever with that dude, but yeah.
• 45:32
  All right. So for my work, and we're going to get into a little bit of trouble.
• 45:39
  We're going to step on some toes. At least I'm going to step on some toes here.
• 45:44
  I want to talk about something that's very sensitive, not just for the black
• 45:51
  community, but this is...
• 45:55
  More directed at the black community.
• 46:00
  So last week, maybe two weeks ago, it's been some time now, the lieutenant,
• 46:06
  the former lieutenant governor of Virginia. Oh, yeah.
• 46:11
  Killed his wife and then killed himself.
• 46:16
  And a week later, a father in Shreesport,
• 46:20
  Louisiana, shot his ex-wife and seven of his children and was it her sister
• 46:30
  and like one of his nieces or something like that or nephews or something like that.
• 46:34
  So eight children total and two women, the eight children all died.
• 46:41
  I think the two women survived. There was seven that passed. Was it? Yeah.
• 46:47
  And and then the guy was killed in a shootout with the police like moments later.
• 46:52
  So let me state for the record.
• 46:55
  We on this podcast, we do not condone domestic violence of any sort. OK.
• 47:05
  Black couple, white couple, Hispanic couple, don't matter. Asian couple,
• 47:11
  interracial couple, same sex couple.
• 47:14
  We do not condone domestic violence.
• 47:19
  My personal philosophy, if someone is making you angry enough that y'all need
• 47:25
  to throw hands, then it's time to leave the relationship.
• 47:29
  The relationship is toxic and that's not your person.
• 47:33
  Period Full stop That's my philosophy on that That's not what this work is about
• 47:40
  though This work is about The several podcasts That I've listened to Earlier this week,
• 47:49
  When discussing this topic When discussing this issue Yes you say We need to
• 47:57
  address mental health As a black community I'm with that You say we need to
• 48:01
  do something about domestic violence I'm with that too.
• 48:05
  You say we need to get therapy and learn how to talk things out before they
• 48:10
  get physical. I'm with that.
• 48:13
  Here's where you lost me is some of you guys are saying that black men are a threat to black women.
• 48:24
  Biggest threat. The biggest threat. What are what are we doing here?
• 48:28
  Yes, there is data that says that black women die more than anyone else from
• 48:38
  domestic violence. There's data to support that. I'm not disputing the data.
• 48:43
  What I'm disputing is the narrative.
• 48:46
  When Fox News two years from now starts saying that black men are the biggest
• 48:52
  threat to black women, it's going to be because of you guys saying this.
• 48:58
  May not have been your intent. Doesn't matter.
• 49:01
  You said it. We need to be more responsible with our words. What are we doing here.
• 49:08
  If you want to talk about the black family and the nucleus, what are you doing
• 49:14
  by telling sisters that their biggest threat is a black man?
• 49:19
  I don't get it. I don't understand the logic in that.
• 49:24
  Then these same people will get angry that Venus just married a white man.
• 49:28
  You get mad that Serena's married to a white man, but you just told them that
• 49:34
  the black man is their biggest threat. What are we doing here?
• 49:39
  Seriously, just be responsible, y'all. Be careful with what you say.
• 49:46
  Maybe you're just having an emotional reaction. I get it.
• 49:50
  I was having an emotional reaction. I told my wife, I said, you see what this fool just did?
• 49:55
  But that doesn't mean all black men are going to do that to black women or to
• 50:00
  their spouse, whatever they may be.
• 50:03
  Don't put the actions of a few on all of us because then we're just doing the
• 50:10
  same thing that they've been doing to us for years. Stereotyping us.
• 50:15
  Stereotyping us and making us seem more aggressive, more dangerous, more this, more that.
• 50:22
  Anything to make us a villain. We're doing it to ourselves.
• 50:26
  Please stop, y'all. Please. I'm just saying, family. Please stop.
• 50:31
  Be careful with your words. All right.
• 50:34
  Don't ever say that the biggest threat to a black woman is a black man ever again.
• 50:41
  You know who you are. That's my word, bro.
• 50:45
  And those same people two years from now, when Fox says it will be mad as hell.
• 50:50
  Be the main ones out there talking about Fox and the racist.
• 50:54
  You believe this shit? Right.
• 50:56
  Right. Facts. All right, y'all, we're going to transition into our five on the
• 51:01
  black hand side. All right, movie review.
• 51:03
  We're going to light this thing up and have a little fun.
• 51:05
  The movie we chose to talk about today is Head of State.
• 51:10
  Go ahead, my brother. The floor is yours. All right. So Head of State,
• 51:14
  for those who don't know, was made back in 2003.
• 51:18
  It stars Chris Rock as Maze Gilliam. He is the candidate for the president of the United States.
• 51:25
  Bernie Mac plays his brother and campaign manager, Mitch. Mm-hmm.
• 51:30
  Dylan Baker is Martin Gellar, the campaign advisor. Mm-hmm. Nick Searcy is Brian
• 51:35
  Lewis, the opposing candidate. Mm-hmm.
• 51:38
  Lynn Whitfield is Deborah Lassiter. She's the strategist.
• 51:41
  Mm-hmm. And then, of course, Robin Givens is his ex-wife, plays his ex-fiance. Okay.
• 51:47
  This movie, as I said- Whoa, whoa, whoa. You leaving somebody out? Who? The Love Interest.
• 51:54
  Tamela. Tamela Jones was the love interest. Yes. My bad. Okay.
• 51:59
  All right. All right. That's all right.
• 52:03
  Bro, do you know my brain stopped working for like five seconds?
• 52:06
  I was like, wait. I seen it on your face. You're like, who the hell is he talking about?
• 52:11
  But it's funny. Now I'm rerunning scenes in my head. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:16
  But so one thing I forgot about this movie.
• 52:20
  This was Chris Rock's directorial debut. Oh, I didn't know he directed this.
• 52:24
  Yes. Neither did I. Well, I knew it, but I guess I didn't remember.
• 52:28
  Another shocking thing with this movie, you know, this movie had a budget of
• 52:30
  thirty five million. Had a lot of stars in it, though.
• 52:34
  Yeah. But for 2003, for Chris Rock.
• 52:37
  Now, obviously he was a big star. I was about to say, yeah, it was kind of like Pete Chris Rock.
• 52:42
  But to get that much money in 2003 to me was kind of kind of crazy.
• 52:48
  But so I'm going to give a brief synopsis. Yeah. So Mays Gilliam is a low-level
• 52:54
  but dedicated alderman in D.C.
• 52:57
  After a sudden plane crash kills the leading presidential and vice presidential
• 53:01
  candidates, the Democratic Party is scrambling.
• 53:04
  Desperate for a sacrificial lamb to lose the upcoming election, they draft Mays to run.
• 53:09
  However, Mays defies expectations by refusing to stick to the script,
• 53:14
  speaking his mind, and connecting with voters on a real level,
• 53:16
  ultimately turning the race upside down. Mm-hmm.
• 53:19
  That's the brief synopsis of the movie. Mm-hmm.
• 53:24
  This movie was funny from beginning to end.
• 53:30
  It got funnier when Bernie Mac was introduced into the fold.
• 53:35
  One of my favorite is the NATO Jenkins rant.
• 53:40
  You don't know NATO? I don't know NATO. Sir, I mean, if you're going to run
• 53:44
  for... Do you know NATO Jenkins?
• 53:47
  No, sir, I don't. That's what I thought. Right. So this fool thought NATO.
• 53:51
  He didn't know what NATO was. Right.
• 53:54
  And for those who don't know, I'm like, go watch this movie because it's Bernie
• 54:00
  Mac. Now, obviously, we knew who Bernie Mac was.
• 54:02
  But Bernie Mac really wasn't in a whole bunch of stuff at the time,
• 54:06
  but people knew who he was.
• 54:08
  And this was like, like you said, peak Chris Rock.
• 54:11
  This was peak, hey, let's go get Bernie. Right.
• 54:14
  Similar to how Robert Townsend grabbed Robert Harris for everything back in
• 54:19
  the late 80s and early 90s.
• 54:21
  So what I what I like about this movie, even though it is comedic and intended to make you laugh.
• 54:32
  The Chris Rock's policy points about how can you not afford to get treated at a hospital now?
• 54:42
  You work at? How can you not afford to stay at a hotel that you work at?
• 54:49
  How can you, I'm trying to think, it was one more, it was a hospital,
• 54:53
  the hotel, I think it was a restaurant, you know, how can you work at a restaurant
• 54:58
  that you can't afford to eat at?
• 54:59
  All of those messages about we need to increase the living wage.
• 55:05
  Even though it was comedic, it's true.
• 55:08
  And we've spoken about how we need to raise
• 55:11
  the minimum wage in this country his policy
• 55:15
  about uh kids getting too much screen time and all of that which is so yeah
• 55:21
  he was like and if your kid turned the television back on you knock them out
• 55:25
  like it's just that simple so yeah all all of those policies that,
• 55:34
  like I said, we, we laughed at them because they were funny in the movie.
• 55:38
  But when you cut through the laughter, there's actually some really interesting
• 55:45
  viewpoints, not saying that, you know, the next Democrat should adopt any of
• 55:51
  them. I'm not saying that.
• 55:52
  I'm just saying it's, it's something to think about.
• 55:54
  It actually has some real world relevancy.
• 56:00
  That was that was the one thing that I found interesting. I also found it interesting,
• 56:05
  like the synopsis said, that they set him up to lose.
• 56:09
  You know, they they they they picked a guy that they knew had no chance to win
• 56:14
  and how the DNC didn't give him the support and the funding and all of that kind of stuff,
• 56:21
  which shows you just how dirty politics are on both sides.
• 56:26
  I thought that was interesting to put in the movie.
• 56:30
  I also thought it was interesting the side piece and that was her job was to just be the side piece.
• 56:39
  I thought I thought that was hilarious that they had her in the movie.
• 56:45
  You know, she had then this is a direct response to the Monica Lewinsky Bill Clinton scandal.
• 56:52
  So like her her only purpose is to make sure you don't get caught up in a scandal.
• 56:58
  So I thought I thought that was hilarious.
• 57:02
  I thought I thought Robin Gibbons was actually hilarious. You know,
• 57:06
  the way she dissed him at first, called him broke.
• 57:10
  You know, his car got repalled, all that. I'm leaving you, Miles.
• 57:14
  Then when he started to blow up, she's showing up at everything,
• 57:18
  trying to get back on the team.
• 57:19
  And he like, nah, you couldn't be with me when I was broke. So you can't be with me now.
• 57:24
  Back then, man, that was that was just her character. It really was.
• 57:27
  It did almost everything. It really, really was.
• 57:31
  And she was. We loved Robin Givens as kids growing up. Yeah.
• 57:35
  One of my favorite ones, it wasn't a long of a rant like when he was ranting about pinching. Yeah.
• 57:41
  He was talking about getting a pin and stabbing somebody in.
• 57:43
  I should stab you in the neck with this pin.
• 57:46
  Yeah. But it got me thinking. Yeah.
• 57:49
  Worked at one company for 12
• 57:52
  years bro i think i got a keychain
• 57:56
  which i still have because it's like crystal
• 57:59
  but i mean let's be real things remember
• 58:02
  used to sell those things for like what 40 bucks i think i got an ink pen a
• 58:07
  real nice pen i still got it because i work for the damn thing so i hold on
• 58:12
  to them and i think i got a watch a good watch or just a watch just a watch
• 58:18
  straight I mean, back in them days,
• 58:20
  you know, the leather band that had the gold backing in it.
• 58:22
  I won't say the name of the company, but had that on there as well.
• 58:26
  These companies don't give you anything. My previous company,
• 58:31
  I was there for what? Five and a half years.
• 58:34
  Well, you know what I got for my five-year anniversary?
• 58:36
  A jacket that I already had. You gave me that jacket when I started working there.
• 58:42
  You know what they did? instead of having the company's logo
• 58:45
  here they put it on the sleeve and it
• 58:48
  was like a little different with like a five-year thing bro that
• 58:52
  thing at the back of my closet right now you know what i just got for my five-year
• 58:55
  anniversary nothing nothing nothing bro nothing but you know he as you said
• 59:03
  he brought up quite a few valid points as to what's going on in this country Sure.
• 59:10
  And it's not new. It was going on back then. Correct. Still going on today.
• 59:14
  Correct. So it's the whole trickle down economics. Yes.
• 59:18
  Which has been a Republican strategy since Ronald Reagan in the 80s.
• 59:22
  Since Reagan. Hasn't changed. Right.
• 59:24
  So the movie is meant to be comedic, as you said, but it will have you thinking, huh.
• 59:34
  That that makes sense we should do that for sure companies should
• 59:38
  do that but as long as we live in a capitalist society a lot of this
• 59:40
  stuff will never happen for sure for sure even even even his opponent who his
• 59:47
  tagline was god bless america and no one else and it's just what we were just
• 59:53
  saying god's not an american why do you think god would give preferential treatment to america,
• 1:00:01
  that's how these guys think and that's how they want you to think and it's like
• 1:00:06
  so you think that god only loves america and he's gonna let the rest of the
• 1:00:11
  world suffer that's very christian of you,
• 1:00:15
  very christian of you to think that only save me and mine and and the hell with
• 1:00:20
  everyone else you know and and chris rock says in that debate oh no it shouldn't
• 1:00:25
  be god bless america and no everyone else.
• 1:00:32
  That's the real message.
• 1:00:36
  Again, it was supposed to be comedic, but if you actually just step back and
• 1:00:42
  listen, a lot of these things could be applied today.
• 1:00:48
  Now, I do want to talk about two of my favorite scenes from The Opponent,
• 1:00:51
  because I think his opponent was excellent in this when he was talking about,
• 1:00:55
  when he was trying to get him to debate, because he was like, I'm not debating you.
• 1:00:59
  And he was like, you are going to debate me. And he kept heckling them and following them.
• 1:01:04
  And he had the mega fall.
• 1:01:08
  And he was like, hey, your mama ass so big. When she sit down, she three feet taller.
• 1:01:14
  And she stood up, man.
• 1:01:17
  Bro, that killed me. And then she slapped him. You're going to let him talk about me like that?
• 1:01:24
  Slapped the shit out of his ass. her ass
• 1:01:27
  was huge bro that shit killed me i love that shit and i love after he lost and
• 1:01:34
  he had all of his advisors line up and he was just feeling on them yeah pow
• 1:01:40
  you suck pow you suck what's the movie with uh will ferrell and zach galifianakis.
• 1:01:48
  Political movie oh i know what you're talking about what is it called the something yeah but it,
• 1:01:57
  will ferrell reminds me of his of it like will ferrell actually punched the
• 1:02:02
  baby in the face which is like yeah one of the funniest things i've ever seen
• 1:02:07
  yeah in a movie he reminds me a lot of that his opponent reminds me a lot of
• 1:02:11
  will ferrell yeah so i is when i think about it i go i wonder if those were loosely,
• 1:02:17
  based on someone. Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  For it to be that similar. Well, I'm wondering if Will Ferrell was like,
• 1:02:23
  yeah, I got that from Head of State.
• 1:02:25
  Or, yeah, I model my character after that.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah, it's, like I said, it kind of pulled back the curtain a little bit,
• 1:02:37
  especially on, like, the DNC when the winger was like, yeah,
• 1:02:41
  we just wanted to see what he was going to do because I'm going to run.
• 1:02:46
  So basically, we just needed him to clear the field for me and we can take his
• 1:02:50
  strategy and improve it, enhance it, whatever, for me to run and I'll get all
• 1:02:57
  the support and all the backing.
• 1:02:59
  And then, you know, what was what was when when Len Whitfield told him?
• 1:03:06
  If you really think they were trying to win this race, they would have picked
• 1:03:10
  an ignorant nigga like you.
• 1:03:12
  That was that was hard, bro. She she has a way to make you love her.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah. And hate her. Yeah. Just about every role she does. Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  That was that was that was so hard, bro. And it's just like because she was
• 1:03:26
  so I don't like to use the word uppity, but she was so about her business. Right.
• 1:03:32
  And then having to deal with the nonsense. Right. Rocking Bernie Mac.
• 1:03:35
  Right. come on with this. Right.
• 1:03:37
  Right. Yeah. But then she came back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, I'm sorry.
• 1:03:42
  I do think you can win, but we do have to make some changes.
• 1:03:47
  Like, like if you want people to take you serious, you have to get serious about it.
• 1:03:53
  Speaking of taking things serious, you know, Bernie Mac basically just was like,
• 1:03:57
  yeah, hell with that script.
• 1:03:59
  He ad-libbed that a lot of it wow a
• 1:04:02
  lot of people on set said that he treated every day
• 1:04:05
  on set like he was performing that's
• 1:04:10
  how he approached it they said that he approached it as a stand-up comedy special
• 1:04:15
  and i'm about to go out here and i'm gonna perform yeah one thing i also didn't
• 1:04:20
  realize do you know he brought the entire chris rock show cast that's who worked on this movie really.
• 1:04:28
  That's who did this movie.
• 1:04:29
  So everybody from his show from HBO, for those who don't know,
• 1:04:33
  he had a show kind of similar, like, well, not similar to Bill Maher, but he was on HBO.
• 1:04:38
  Which was excellent. Oh, yeah. Chris Rock's show was on. Yeah.
• 1:04:41
  He brought producers, everybody, cameramen, extras.
• 1:04:46
  They're the people that did this movie. That's how you look out.
• 1:04:49
  And he also would not give the studio executives the script.
• 1:04:54
  There you go. Smart. He wouldn't give it to him. Smart. Because he said he didn't
• 1:04:57
  want his product to be watered down. Yep. Which you know they would have.
• 1:05:01
  Right. And he also didn't want to direct this movie.
• 1:05:04
  Oh really? Yeah he said nah I don't want to direct it. But he realized that
• 1:05:09
  in order for that script he had to get. He had to. Because you know as well as I do.
• 1:05:14
  Studio heads are going to be like well if we give you this director we need to see this damn script.
• 1:05:20
  Right. So we can you know. That's interesting. Yeah. Wow.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah, they say Bernie was on set just cutting up. I bet they had fun,
• 1:05:30
  man. I loved it. Can you imagine that?
• 1:05:32
  Hey, and, you know, we got an appearance by the OG Nate doll.
• 1:05:35
  Yeah, yeah. You know, I love that too, man. Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  The OG was in the movie. I'm trying to think what else.
• 1:05:45
  There was, like, one other thing that I think is lost with this younger generation
• 1:05:52
  when Bernie Mac told him.
• 1:05:54
  It's time to take off the track suits.
• 1:05:57
  You know, like you got to dress for the job you want. I also felt that because
• 1:06:02
  I also think that that's true.
• 1:06:03
  You know, sometimes you got to pull the pants up.
• 1:06:07
  You know, you got to put on some loaves.
• 1:06:10
  You got to get some khakis or some slacks and a button up.
• 1:06:14
  Dress for the job you want. No, you can't be going to work looking like you just...
• 1:06:21
  From your homie's crib. I'm going to share something real quick.
• 1:06:24
  It's on the same topic, what you're talking about now.
• 1:06:26
  I was talking to a property manager a couple of days ago, and she mentioned,
• 1:06:30
  I asked her, I was like, did you find anybody to replace the lady that left at the front?
• 1:06:34
  She's like, nah. She's like, I had a couple of interviews and some girl showed
• 1:06:37
  up here in some pajama pants, some slides, and a t-shirt.
• 1:06:41
  And you think somebody going to hire you?
• 1:06:43
  And look, I know I did the whole rant about code switching and all that stuff,
• 1:06:47
  But that is not what I was talking about, y'all.
• 1:06:50
  At an upscale property?
• 1:06:53
  You came in here looking like that? I've never gone to a job interview without
• 1:06:57
  wearing a shirt and a tie.
• 1:06:59
  It didn't matter what it was for. And my kids did the same thing.
• 1:07:03
  When they got their first job at McDonald's, man, them fools was slacks, college shirt. Yeah.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah. It just, even, and, and,
• 1:07:12
  and, you know, even the slaves didn't have anything, right? They didn't.
• 1:07:17
  But they still on Sundays dressed up.
• 1:07:21
  They tried. Right. They had that one suit. They might have it for, you know, 20, 30 years.
• 1:07:27
  But they had that one suit and they wore that suit to church,
• 1:07:30
  that suit that tied them shoes.
• 1:07:32
  And that was their their suit. And they got dressed up when they called for it.
• 1:07:37
  I just don't know how you can go to a job interview in general. Just my opinion.
• 1:07:44
  Not business casual. If you tell me I'm going to a building,
• 1:07:50
  and I know that building has more than 10 floors and a bunch of windows,
• 1:07:54
  I'm like, oh, so I'm going to a fancy... Yeah, let me put on a suit.
• 1:07:58
  I mean, whether it's right or wrong...
• 1:08:03
  You are being judged on your pants. Yeah, absolutely. And like the old saying
• 1:08:07
  goes, you only have one time to make that first impression.
• 1:08:12
  So, yeah, it matters.
• 1:08:15
  It 100% matters. Also, get a professional email address. Yes.
• 1:08:21
  Yes, bro. Some of the ones I've seen over my years of interviewing people, they make me laugh.
• 1:08:26
  But I don't lie. I read them and go, I'm not calling you back.
• 1:08:32
  Can't take them serious.
• 1:08:33
  I can't even take you serious. Can't take him serious. Whether it's right or
• 1:08:36
  wrong, that's just the way it is.
• 1:08:41
  Badbitch123 at gmail.com. Right. I'm not calling you. Right.
• 1:08:46
  Right. I remember I interviewed a guy and I looked him straight in his face.
• 1:08:52
  I said, listen here, man, I'm going to ask you a real question. I want a real answer.
• 1:08:57
  I said, do you want to work or do you want a job?
• 1:09:01
  Well, there's a difference. I'm like, okay, thank you. Yeah,
• 1:09:05
  there's a difference. Thank you.
• 1:09:07
  It's kind of like what I tell you when I interview these folks.
• 1:09:10
  I want to get people in these contracts who want it. Right.
• 1:09:17
  But don't need it. And for those who are wondering what I mean,
• 1:09:20
  I know we've kind of gotten off subject, but those that want it have set goals.
• 1:09:25
  They come to you, they have goals. they're least likely to raise hell if there's change.
• 1:09:32
  Someone who needs the money, they don't want to be there in the first place.
• 1:09:36
  They don't want to have to get a second job. So any change that goes away from
• 1:09:41
  what their ultimate goal is there, which we all go to work and get paid,
• 1:09:45
  let's be real. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
• 1:09:46
  But if there is a hiccup in something, the person who has goals set,
• 1:09:52
  I don't know, it's all good, bro. Just let me know what's going on.
• 1:09:55
  But somebody who needs it, One hiccup, they're going to quit on you and leave
• 1:10:00
  you stranded high and dry.
• 1:10:02
  Yeah. At least what I've seen in the industry that I'm in. Yeah.
• 1:10:07
  All right. Let's go ahead and rate this thing, bro.
• 1:10:11
  I'm going to give head of state three and a half high fives on the black hand side.
• 1:10:17
  I like this movie. It made me laugh. Like I said, it has some hidden meanings in it.
• 1:10:23
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go back. Check it out. I think most people will enjoy it,
• 1:10:28
  you know, without giving the movie completely away. I think most people will enjoy it.
• 1:10:33
  I think I'm going to go the same with you.
• 1:10:36
  Not that it's bad. You know, not
• 1:10:39
  it doesn't like not saying it doesn't deserve a four or four and a half.
• 1:10:42
  But, you know, it's still a
• 1:10:44
  comedy movie. Correct. It's not meant to be taken. Correct. Ultra series.
• 1:10:49
  But no, it's a good movie. If I'm scrolling through, which don't nobody do no more.
• 1:10:54
  But if I'm scrolling through the guide and I see it, I watch it every single time.
• 1:10:58
  Yeah. And why I can't give it a four or five, because there are some stereotypical. Oh, of course.
• 1:11:05
  Things in there that I'm just like, yeah, that kind of didn't need to be in
• 1:11:09
  the movie. But that's just me.
• 1:11:11
  All right, y'all. So that's where we are with Head of State.
• 1:11:14
  And we're going to slide right into our closing monologue.
• 1:11:19
  My brother, take it away. Appreciate it. So I want to talk about something that is going on.
• 1:11:28
  Right now is kind of a battle for political power. And it's right in our faces,
• 1:11:32
  but it's happened in federal courtrooms.
• 1:11:35
  It's a fight against a practice called prison gerrymandering,
• 1:11:40
  which I hadn't heard of until a couple of days ago.
• 1:11:43
  So when the census is taken, incarcerated individuals who are disproportionately
• 1:11:48
  black and brown are counted as residents of the rural town where they are held. Interesting.
• 1:11:55
  Rather than the city they actually call home.
• 1:11:59
  And here's why that matters. Even though incarcerated people cannot vote in those districts,
• 1:12:05
  their numbers are used to artificially inflate the voting power and the political
• 1:12:11
  representation and the federal funding of those prison towns.
• 1:12:15
  At the same time, this strips resources, tax dollars for schools,
• 1:12:21
  infrastructure, and hospitals out of their home neighborhoods.
• 1:12:26
  The NAACP, ACLU are all fighting this in court currently because they say it
• 1:12:32
  operates as a modern echo of the Three-Fifths Compromise.
• 1:12:36
  It is a direct systemic transfer of political power from communities of color
• 1:12:41
  to the districts that cage them.
• 1:12:45
  True representation should belong to the communities that people come from,
• 1:12:49
  not the facilities holding them.
• 1:12:52
  Quick question. Mm-hmm. Do you think incarcerated people should have the right to vote?
• 1:12:57
  I believe it depends on, you know what? Yes. Hmm.
• 1:13:01
  That's interesting. Okay. Because, you know what I was about to say?
• 1:13:04
  And I had to catch myself.
• 1:13:05
  And that's a whole different hell. We might be able to do a whole different
• 1:13:07
  thing. No, that's why I just wanted to leave it at that.
• 1:13:11
  Let's leave it at that. All right. Well, hell, hell, that might be next week.
• 1:13:15
  All right. All right. Cool.
• 1:13:16
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