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The Nolan Wells Case - Deciphering the Missing Hour · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: So picture a massive beach party, you know, hundreds of
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teenagers everywhere, right, just total chaos, exactly, And there are
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hundreds of high definition cameras in everyone's hands, GPS trackers
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in their pockets, and you have live cell phone pings
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constantly bouncing off all the nearby towers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the amount of data being generated in a place
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like that is just.
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Speaker 1: Staggering, it really is. So in an environment with that
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much dense, overlapping digital surveillance, you have to ask, how
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is it physically possible for an eighteen year old boy
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to just vanish without a single bite of data capturing
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where he went?
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that question forces us to confront a
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really uncomfortable reality about the modern world. You know, we
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assume that just because we have all these devices constantly recording,
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that a definitive timeline of any event will just naturally assemble.
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Speaker 1: Itself, right like the Internet will just do the math
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for us.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. We confuse the sheer volume of data with objective truth,
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but raw data without context is really just noise.
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Speaker 1: Just wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes having a thousand cameras pointed in a
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thousand different directions actually creates more blind spots than it illuminates.
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Speaker 1: I am so glad you framed it that way, because
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that illusion of like digital omniscience is at the absolute
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center of what we are looking at today.
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Speaker 2: It really is the core issue here.
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Speaker 1: So we are taking a deep dive into the disappearance
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and the really tragic death of eighteen year old Nolan Wells.
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Speaker 2: And this is such a heavy, complex situation.
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Speaker 1: It is specifically our mission for this deep dive is
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to unpack this newly released, incredibly dense investigative report put
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together by the United Cajun Navy.
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Speaker 2: Right, they really went deep on this one, they did.
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Speaker 1: We're going back to Horn Island, Mississippi, to look at
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the facts of that July fourth weekend, and we're parsing
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the insights of forensic diver and marine law expert Alex
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bar But you know.
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Speaker 2: Before we go any further, I think we really need
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to establish a baseline of respect here. Absolutely, because a
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family is grieving the loss of their son. You're not
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here to play Internet detective or point fingers.
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Speaker 1: Ye, not at all.
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Speaker 2: The value of this deep dive for you listening right
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now is strictly analytical. We're going to examine the data
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in this report and look at the brutal forensic realities
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of open water investigations.
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Speaker 1: Right, and dissect how a timeline is structurally built, and
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I guess how easily it can.
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Speaker 2: Fall apart exactly.
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Speaker 1: So let's lay up the foundation so everyone has the
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geography and the basic narrative in their head. Nolan Wells
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is eighteen, so it's a kid, really. Yeah. He heads
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out for a massive July fourth boat party on Horn Island.
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This is a barrier island off the coast of Mississippi
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and it's accessible only by water, So you.
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Speaker 2: Have a really chaotic, crowded scene.
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Speaker 1: Out there, super chaotic, and at the end of the day,
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the friends he arrived with returned to the mainland without him, right, And.
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Speaker 2: Their stated account is that Nolan chose to stay behind
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on the island.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, possibly to talk to a young lady he had met,
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that's the claim. But then two excruciating days later his
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body is discovered.
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Speaker 2: It's just devastating for the family completely.
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Speaker 1: His family is now fighting for answers. They've actually hired
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high profile attorney Ben Crump. They want a spotlight on
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this case until they understand exactly what happened in those
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missing hours.
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Speaker 2: And that search for answers has run headfirst into a
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massive structural roadblock.
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Speaker 1: Right the official investigation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the official law enforcement investigation by the local sheriff's
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office is still active, but to the general public, it
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appears totally frozen in carbonate.
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Speaker 1: Like nothing is happening at.
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Speaker 2: All, exactly, and that apparent standstill is exactly why an
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independent civilian organization like the United Cajun Navy felt compelled
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to step in and release their own exhaustive report.
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Speaker 1: They're basically trying to fill a massive information vacuum.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is, a vacuum.
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Speaker 1: Let's focus on that vacuum for a second, because the
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public frustration online is just boiling over. People are demanding
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the autopsy, they're demanding the toxicology report.
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Speaker 2: And the most agonizing part of all of this is
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that those reports orts are completely finished.
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Speaker 1: Wait, they're done.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the medical examiner has done the work. The data exists,
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but it is sealed tight.
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Speaker 1: See my initial reaction to that, and I think the
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reaction of a lot of people following this online is suspicion.
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I mean, why would law enforcement hide the definitive scientific
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answers from a family begging for them.
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Speaker 2: Well, that suspicion is totally natural, but it really stems
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from a misunderstanding of how the legal apparatus actually functions
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down in Mississippi.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not a cover up.
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Speaker 2: No, this isn't some shadowy conspiracy by a local sheriff
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to suppress evidence. It is a rigid, non negotiable statutory requirement.
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Speaker 1: How does that work?
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Speaker 2: Well, District Attorney Angel Meyers MacRath actually outlined the legal
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mechanism publicly in that jurisdiction. Any death that cannot be
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definitively immediately categorized as natural causes or a non criminal
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vehicle accident, it has to go through a mandatory.
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Speaker 1: Process, meaning what exactly It absolutely must go to a
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grand jury. Oh wow, so the system automatically reroutes the.
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Speaker 2: Case file precisely because Nolan's death in the water doesn't
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fit into a neat pre approved box of natural causes,
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state law essentially puts a padlock on the file until
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a grand jury can review it.
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Speaker 1: So the autopsy, the toxicology, the specific medical findings about
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you know, water and the lungs, none of that can
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legally be released.
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Speaker 2: None of it not until the grand jury process. Concludes, Wow,
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and you know, a grand jury operates entirely in.
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Speaker 1: Secret, and there's no public timeline for that, right right, there's.
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Speaker 2: No countdown clock that convene on their own schedule.
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Speaker 1: It makes me think of, well, it's like a clean
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room and a microchip factory.
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Speaker 2: That's a great way to look at it.
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Speaker 1: Law enforcement has this incredibly sensitive environment where they are
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trying to build a case. If they open the door
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to the public and release the autopsy details, now all
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the dust of public opinion and internet rumors will just
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blow in.
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Speaker 2: And that completely contaminates their witness pool exactly. That clean
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room analogy is incredible apt, especially when you think about
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the psychology of witnesses. Contamination doesn't just mean someone intentionally
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lying to the police.
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Speaker 1: Right. Memory is tricky.
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Speaker 2: It is highly suggestible. Yeah, imagine if investigators released the
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fact that a victim had a very specific type of
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bruising on their left shoulder, and a witness reads that
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on a local blog, their brain might unconsciously retroactively alter
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a memory.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, so suddenly they remember seeing the victim
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get shoved exactly.
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Speaker 2: They genuinely believe they saw it, but they only remembered
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it because the media planted that seed.
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Speaker 1: That is terrifying.
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Speaker 2: It is. But by keeping the clean room sealed, investigators
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can interview a witness and wait to see if the
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witness independently brings up the shoulder bruise.
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Speaker 1: And if they do, you know they're telling the truth.
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You have golden corroborated testimony.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, if you release the autopsy too early, you lose
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that investigative tool forever.
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Speaker 1: But the severe side effect of maintaining that necessary clean
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room is that the public is just left standing outside
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looking at a blank wall.
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Speaker 2: And human beings absolutely cannot stand a blank wall.
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Speaker 1: No, we will draw our own pictures on it immediately.
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And I guess that is exactly where the United Cajun
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Navy enters the picture, right.
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Speaker 2: And the United Cajuan Navy has a very specific operational footprint.
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Speaker 1: They aren't just an internet sleuth group, right.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all. They formed in the aftermath of
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Hurricane Katrina. They are citizen volunteers, but they aren't just
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people with flashlights walking around. They actually have gear, They
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have massive resources. They own vessels, They possess deep localized
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knowledge of those Gulf Coast waterways, and they deploy rapidly.
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In this case, they were on the waters around Horn
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Island within hours of Nolan being reported missing.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so they had a physical presence in the immediate aftermath.
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They aren't working from secondhand chatter.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, and their new report leverages a really fascinating type
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of evidence. They managed to compile these previously unseen background
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photographs from the party to track the physical positioning of
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the boats.
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Speaker 1: I want to dig into the mechanics of this because
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it sounds simple, but it is actually mind bending, it
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really is. So the report isolates a specific cluster of
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boats anchored in the shallow water off the beach. They
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identify three distinctive vessels parked side by side.
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Speaker 2: Right, there's a boat they labeled the Palm Beach.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have the Triton, which is the
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critical vessel because that's the boat and Nolan arrived on
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with his friends.
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Speaker 2: And nestled right next to them is a third pontoon,
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which the Cajun Navy report label simply as Boat three
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or Boat X.
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Speaker 1: So the report states that the Triton Nolan's friend's boat
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left the area at four point three one pm. But
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then they have a different photograph taken by some random
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party goer on the shoreline, stamped at four to fifty
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pm just nineteen minutes later, and in that four four
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to fifty pm photo, boat X is gone. It is
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completely moved out of its original anchored position, which.
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Speaker 2: Introduces a massive rolling variable in the spatial.
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Speaker 1: Timeline, a huge variable.
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Speaker 2: But this is where marine expert Alex Beer throws a
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heavy caution flow regarding how we interpret this kind of
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photographic evidence.
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Speaker 1: Why is that?
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Speaker 2: Well, when the report says boat X, you have to
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remember it that is just an internal source annotation.
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Speaker 1: Meaning it's just a label they made.
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Speaker 2: Up, right, It's a label the investigators slapped on a
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blurry shape in a JPEG. It is not a vessel
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registration number.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense because if I take a picture
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of a generic silver Honda Civic in a parking lot,
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you might know it's a Civic, but without the license
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plate you have no idea who owns it exactly.
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Speaker 2: And out on the water there are literally thousands of
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identical pontoon boats.
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Speaker 1: Good luck telling them apart from a background blur.
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Speaker 2: And furthermore, even if you could use some sci fi
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photogrammetry to miraculously enhance the image and read the registration
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numbers off the hull of boat X. What does that
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actually give you the owner's name, right, it identifies the
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owner of the asset. It tells you absolutely nothing about
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the human beings standing on the deck on July.
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Speaker 1: Fourth, Oh, because there's no TSA checking IDs at a
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sandbar exactly.
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Speaker 2: There is no passenger manifest You contract the movement of
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the fiberglass, but to prove who was actually on that
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fiberglass when it moved at four fifty pm, you still
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have to rely on human corroboration.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Just think about the pure logistical nightmare of trying
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to do this. You are tasked with piecing together the
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minute by minute timeline of a chaotic fluid environment.
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Speaker 2: People are waiting between boats, swimming, moving up and down
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the beach.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you are relying on random selfies pictures of
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people holding up drinks, and you're trying to zoom in
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on the blurry background to see if an anchor line
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has shifted in the tide.
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Speaker 2: It is a painstaking process of elimination.
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Speaker 1: It feels incredibly fragile.
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Speaker 2: It is incredibly fragile, and the moment the Cajun Navy
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investigators tried to map Nolan's physical movements against this shifting
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mosaic of boats. The fragility of the timeline shattered.
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Speaker 1: Completely because they found a gap.
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Speaker 2: Yes, they uncovered a massive, glaring void in the data.
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The Missing hour the Missing hour. Based on an exhaustive
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review of all the submitted media and all the available
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witness statements, the report concluded that the absolute last independently
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corroborated sighting of Nolan Wells happens somewhere in a window
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between three point two three pm and four point twenty
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seven PM.
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Speaker 1: Okay, three point two three to four point twenty seven yes.
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Speaker 2: And after four point two seven pm the data just flatlines.
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There are no photographs, there are no independent witness accounts
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placing him at a specific, verifiable GPS coordinate.
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Speaker 1: This detail completely upends the narrative that was dominating the
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early days of this story.
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Speaker 2: It really does.
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Speaker 1: Because the initial public reporting, which was largely based on
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the accounts of the friends he arrived with, suggested that
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they last saw him around three point zero PM. But
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this report explicitly states they cannot establish a continuous, independently
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corroborated chain connecting his last sighting to the Triton's departure
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at four point three one pm.
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Speaker 2: You essentially have a full hour of zero data in
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a crowd of hundreds of people.
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Speaker 1: How does that even happen? How can someone just vanish
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like that in plain sight?
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Speaker 2: To understand how a human being can become invisible in
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a crowd of hundreds, Alex Bear utilizes this brilliant psychological framework.
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He calls it the lady in the red dress scenario.
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Speaker 1: The lady in the red dress.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you go to a massive music festival or
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a sprawling beach party and I point to a random
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stranger in a red dress and ask you to track
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her movements for the next three hours, you will fail.
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Speaker 1: Well for sure, I'd lose her in five minutes.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Unless you are consciously actively tasked with surveilling that
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specific individual, your brain simply will not log her movements.
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Speaker 1: Because our brains are actively filtering out irrelevant information so
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we don't get overwhelmed.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, you are focused on finding the cooler, or talking
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to your friend, or just keeping your footing in the sand.
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Time in that environment is a total.
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Speaker 1: Blur, So no one is logging mental time stamps of
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when an eighteen year old boy walks past their beach towel.
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Speaker 2: The scientific term for this is inattentional blindness. It isn't
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a malicious cover up by the crowd, It is just
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a fundamental limitation of human neurology.
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Speaker 1: Building a precise minute by minute account of one single
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person in a high stimulus environment is nearly impossible.
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Speaker 2: It is. However, while the start of that missing window
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is incredibly murky, the Cajun Navy report did manage to
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find a structural anchor for the end of.
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Speaker 1: The timeline, okay, And this brings us to Caitlin Bichard. Yes,
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she is an independent witness who was on the island
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that day. At seven thirty pm, which is hours after
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the triton left, she snapped a photo of the vessels
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still remaining in the area right her group was finally
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leaving the island, and her official report states that at
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seven thirty pm Nolan was nowhere in sight.
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Speaker 2: In forensic timeline reconstruction, Caitlin's statement operates as what we
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call a negative observation.
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Speaker 1: A negative observation, yeah, and these.
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Speaker 2: Are just as crucial as positive sightings. Really well, if
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you are searching for a missing person, knowing exactly when
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and where they definitively were not provides a hard closing bracket.
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Oh I see if the last corroborated sighting drifts around
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four point two seven pm, and we have a definitive
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negative observation at seven point nino thirty pm, investigators don't
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have to waste resources wondering if you was still walking
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the shoreline at nine point zero pm.
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Speaker 1: They can collapse the timeline from the outside in exactly Okay,
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So we have this fractured, deeply uncertain timeline of Nolan's
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movements on the beach. But if human memory is too
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flawed to give us a timeline of the person, investigators
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usually turn to machine data, right they have to, which
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brings us to the mechanical data of the Triton, the
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boat he arrived on. And this is where the friction
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in this case reaches a boiling point.
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Speaker 2: The narrative surrounding the triton's departure is probably the most
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intensely debated aspect of the public discourse. Oh absolutely, The
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young men who left on that boat claim they experienced
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a sudden catastrophic marine emergency.
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Speaker 1: They say the boat was sinking, right.
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Speaker 2: Their account states the triton began rapidly taking on water.
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Panic ensued. They realized they had to leave immediately to
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prevent the vessel from sinking and to save their own lives.
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Speaker 1: And in the chaos of that sudden evacuation, they claim Nolan,
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who was supposedly somewhere on the bea each talking to
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a girl, was left behind.
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Speaker 2: And the piece of evidence that through absolute gasoline on
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this fire is the distress audio that leaked online.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, that audio is intense.
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Speaker 2: You can hear the raw panic in the caller's voice.
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They're on the radio stating their location near the west
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tip of Horn Island.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the caller explicitly says the bilge pump has stopped working,
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they're sinking, and they are begging for assistance.
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Speaker 2: And then the dispatcher asks a standard question are there
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people on board?
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Speaker 1: And the response is chilling. The caller says, there are
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lots of people breathing on the boat.
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Speaker 2: It is a visceral piece of audio. When you hear it,
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your immediate biological response is to believe the emergency is
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acute and immediate.
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Speaker 1: But the United Cajun Navy report introduces a stunning contradiction
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to that audio, doesn't it?
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Speaker 2: It really does. Yeah, despite the distress call, their investigators
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found absolutely no physical or photographic evidence to establish when
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the boat actually began taking.
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Speaker 1: On water, So they couldn't find an external catalyst that
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corroborates a sudden zero hour emergency departure.
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Speaker 2: None at all.
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Speaker 1: Let's pull the thread on the actual machine data, because
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this is where the story gets really complicated. The report
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utilizes tracking data from the Mississippi Department of Marine Resources
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the MDMR.
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Speaker 2: Right, the GPS data.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the GPS confirms the triton left the Horn
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Island area at four point three one pm. But here
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is the kicker. It didn't just limp one hundred yards
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to the nearest sandbar and drop anchor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't.
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Speaker 1: The MDMR data shows the Treton maintained a speed of
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four point two to six knots for nearly an entire
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hour before it resumed normal operations at five point two
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five pm.
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Speaker 2: And that detail trips up a lot of people.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I am stuck on this. I really need
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to challenge the lodgit here. If I am driving down
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the highway and my engine catches fire, I pull over immediately.
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Speaker 2: I stopped right, that's what you do in a car.
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Speaker 1: So if a boat is actively taking on water to
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the point where people are calling dispatch in a panic,
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why on earth wouldn't the captain immediately beach the vessel
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on the nearest shore.
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Speaker 2: It sounds counter intuitive.
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Speaker 1: Driving a sinking boat out into open water for an
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hour sounds entirely counterintuitive and frankly, deeply suspicious.
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Speaker 2: It sounds suspicious because you are applying terrestrial logic to
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fluid dynamics.
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Speaker 1: Okay, explain that a boat is.
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Speaker 2: Not a car on asphalt. It is an object relying
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on buoyancy in a fluid environment. Alex Beer provides an
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absolute master class in marine physics to explain this exact scenario.
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What does he say, Well, a vessel can take on
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water for several reasons. You could have a breach in
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the hull, a failed through hole fitting below the water line, or,
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very commonly on party boats, an overloaded weight capacity that
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pushes the stern down so low that waves start washing
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over the back.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so water is coming in, why not stop the engine.
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Speaker 2: Because stopping the engine could be the exact action that
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sends the boat to the bottom of the gulf. Yes,
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most modern vessels are designed with gravity fed drainage systems
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called scuppers located at the rear the transom of the boat.
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When a captain applies throttle and maintains forward momentum, the
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physics of that thrust forces the bow of the boat.
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Speaker 1: To rise up right, creates an angle exactly well.
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Speaker 2: I mean it creates a downward angle toward the rear
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of the deck. That forward motion forces the water that
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has breached the hull to pool at the very back
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of the boat, where gravity allows it to drain naturally
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out of the scuppers.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.
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Speaker 2: If a captain panics and cuts the engine to zero,
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the boat loses that artificial angle. It levels out flat
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in the water, and then what happens. The forward momentum
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stops pushing the water out, and the incoming water can
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rapidly overwhelm whatever functioning bilge pumps you have left.
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Speaker 1: That completely flips the script. So the act of driving
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for an hour isn't fleeing the scene. It's a mechanical
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survival tactic exactly.
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Speaker 2: In many marine emergencies, a captain will blow right through
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a strict no wake zone at high speeds, knowing full
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well they're breaking local ordinances.
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Speaker 1: Because they know if they slow down, they sink.
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Speaker 2: Because they know if they drop the vessel off of
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a plane, the boat will swamp and sink. They have
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to keep the power engaged until they can reach a
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dock with heavy duty pumps or a shallow enough shoreline
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to safely ground the hull.
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Speaker 1: So when you look at that MDMR data, maintaining a
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speed of four point two to six knots, that is
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entirely consistent with a captain who is actively trying to
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keep the bow pitched up.
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Speaker 2: Yes, allowing water to drain while carefully navigating to safety.
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The physics perfectly explain the machine data.
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Speaker 1: That is an incredible insight that completely changes how you
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view that hour long window.
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Speaker 2: It really shits the perspective.
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Speaker 1: So the mechanical behavior of the boat can be analyzed
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and justified through fluid dynamics, but human physiology is far messier,
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oh much messier, and the physiological state of Nolan Wells
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on that island has become the most vicious battleground of
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competing truths in this entire case.
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Speaker 2: This is the crux of the public debate right now,
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and it perfectly illustrates the inherent danger of trying to
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build a narrative without that sealed toxicology report.
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Speaker 1: Because we have two completely opposed accounts regarding whether Nolan
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was intoxicated, right, and.
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Speaker 2: We need to examine the source of each claim. Impartially okay.
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Speaker 1: On one side, we have Nolan's mother, Christine Winsley. She
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is fighting tooth and nail for her son's legacy.
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Speaker 2: As any mother would.
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Speaker 1: She appeared on national television on Don Lemon's show actually
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to forcefully reject the rumors circulating online that Nolan was sloppy,
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drunk right. And she didn't just offer a mother's defense,
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she brought a specific eyewitness. She cited a football coach
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who was present on Horn Island.
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Speaker 2: And what did the coach say?
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Speaker 1: According to this coach, he interacted with Nolan between two
20:32
point four to five pm and three point thirty pm,
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and he categorically described Nolan as being perfectly fine.
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Speaker 2: See that is a highly specific, temporalily anchored piece of
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eyewitness testimony from an adult authority figure who presumably knows
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what an intoxicated teenager looks like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it carries significant.
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Speaker 2: Weight, it does. But then you have the opposing documentation
20:53
journalists obtained in an internal email generated by the Mississippi
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Department of Marine Resources.
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Speaker 1: The MDMR email.
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Speaker 2: Yes, in this official internal communication, the agency explicitly characterizes
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Nolan's alcohol intake that day as heavy.
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Speaker 1: How do investigators possibly reconcile those two things? I mean,
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you have a coach looking at kid in the eye
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and saying he is fine, and a government agency circulating
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a memo saying he was heavily intoxicated, He's tough. They
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cannot both be objectively true.
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Speaker 2: They reconcile it by understanding the flaws inherent in both
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types of data. Visual assessment of intoxication is notoriously.
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Speaker 1: Unreliable, really, even for a coach.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, someone can have a high blood alcohol content but
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hold themselves together during a brief interaction, especially if they're
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experiencing an adrenaline spite from a loud social environment.
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Speaker 1: Oh like the party kept him energized exactly.
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Speaker 2: Conversely, someone could be entirely sober but suffering from severe
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heat exhaustion and dehydration from the July sun, which would
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look like what which mimics the slurred speech and lethargy
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of drunkenness perfectly?
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Speaker 1: Wow? And what about the internal agency email doesn't official documentation,
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Trump and Eyewitness.
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Speaker 2: Not necessarily because we lack the genesis of that document.
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What do you mean, well, how is that internal email generated?
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Did an Mdmr Marine patrol officer physically observe Nolan drinking heavily?
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Or did a dispatcher simply type up a preliminary, unverified
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statement provided by the friends on the boat who were
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trying to explain to authorities why they left him behind.
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Oh man, If it is the latter, the email isn't
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an objective fact. It is just a recorded rumor.
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Speaker 1: It is agonized and you can feel the frustration just
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talking about it. A family is forced to watch their
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son's final hours debated as a proxy war on social
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media using fragmented, unverified scraps of information.
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Speaker 2: It's terrible.
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Speaker 1: It really highlights why that clean room, the grand jury
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process is so vital. The toxicology report is the only
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entity that doesn't have an agenda, a faulty memory, or
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a defensive posture.
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Speaker 2: It is just chemistry.
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Speaker 1: But until that chemistry is unsealed, the information vacum persists,
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and that vacuum has birthed something incredibly dangerous.
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Speaker 2: It leads us into the deepest, darkest pathology of the
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modern true crime community.
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Speaker 1: The online mobs.
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Speaker 2: Exactly when official channels go silent, a specific subset of
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the Internet decides to act as investigators, judge, jury, and executioners.
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Speaker 1: We have to address the real world fallout here because
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it has escalated far beyond mean comments on a message board.
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Speaker 2: It's gotten really scary.
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Speaker 1: The young men who are on the Triton with Nolan,
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specifically Warren Hudson, Jax Padelo, and Morgan Seymour, they have
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become the targets of a coordinated, terrifying online mob.
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Speaker 2: To understand the scale of this, Warren Hudson's father originally
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offered a fifty thousand dollars reward for information regarding Nolan's disappearance.
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Speaker 1: He was trying to aid the search he was.
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Speaker 2: But the backlash against these boys has been so vitriolic
23:52
and so severe that they have now launched a give
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Seno fundraiser asking for one hundred thousand dollars just to
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cover the mounting legal costs for defamation claims against their
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online attackers.
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Speaker 1: The transition from public curiosity to targeted harassment was just instantaneous,
24:07
According to their legal counsel, these young men have received
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a barrage of physical.
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Speaker 2: Threats, real credible threats.
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Speaker 1: The environment became so volatile and the threats so credible
24:16
that most of them could not even attend the funeral
24:18
of their best friend due to security concerns.
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Speaker 2: And I want to be clear, these are not just
24:22
anonymous avatars typing angry emojis. The real world danger is concrete.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to look at the case of Edward
24:30
James Porter, a man out of Illinois.
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Speaker 2: What did he do?
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Speaker 1: He was recently arrested and charged with transmitting interstate threats
24:37
to kill witnesses connected to this very investigation. Wow, he
24:41
didn't just say he was angry. He allegedly sent detailed
24:44
threats promising to cut up their bodies and stuff their
24:47
remains of his suitcases.
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Speaker 2: That's horrific.
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Speaker 1: And this was not an isolated incident for him. This
24:52
arrest follows two other arrests in Ohio and California allegedly
24:55
connected to similar behavior.
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Speaker 2: In this exact case, we have to ask why this happened.
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I mean, why does an information vacuum turn bystanders into predators?
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Speaker 1: What's the psychology there?
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Speaker 2: It is the gamification of tragedy. For a segment of
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the population, a missing person's case isn't a human catastrophe,
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It is an interactive puzzle podcast they feel entitled to solve.
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Speaker 1: They treat it like a game exactly.
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Speaker 2: The lack of an autopsy report gives them a blank
25:23
canvas to project their own cinematic theories of foul play.
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They develop a parasocial relationship with the victim, convincing themselves
25:31
that they are the only ones seeking justice.
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Speaker 1: And by playing vigilante, they actually sabotage the real.
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Speaker 2: Professionals absolutely think about the resources law enforcement has to
25:41
divert to manage this. Instead of a detective spending ten
25:44
hours analyzing gpsping data from a marine navigation system, that
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detective is spending ten hours working with federal cybercrimes units
25:53
to track the IP address of a guy in Illinois
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threatening to dismember a witness.
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Speaker 1: The mob mentality actively physically hinders the pursuit of the
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truth they claim to care about so.
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Speaker 2: Much it's incredibly counterproductive.
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Speaker 1: So to combat that exact type of wild, untethered speculation,
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the United Cajun Navy structured their report around what they
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call the five pillars of Uncertainty.
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Speaker 2: These are crucial.
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Speaker 1: These are five massive structural factors in the timeline that
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must be repaired before anyone can claim to know what happened.
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Speaker 2: Let's walk through them.
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Speaker 1: Let's walk through how an investigator actually has to rebuild
26:27
this shattered timeline step by step. What's the first pillar.
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Speaker 2: The first step is establishing ground truth, which means authenticating
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the last known sighting.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so nailing down exactly when he was last seen, right.
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Speaker 2: An investigator cannot accept a statement like I think I
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saw him near the coolers around four point zero zero.
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They need a triangulated position. Then you coordinate any of
26:50
the exact geographic coordinates on the island, the exact time
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down to the minute. And they need to secure the
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original source media of that sighting to prove it hasn't been.
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Speaker 1: Altered, which it brings us to the absolute nightmare of
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digital forensics. The second major hurdle is authenticating the media
27:06
from that crucial three point two to three pm to
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four point two seven pm window.
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Speaker 2: This where it gets really technical.
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Speaker 1: Alex Beer points out that investigators have to meticulously untangle
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three completely different types of time stamps.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the event time, the post time, and the screen
27:20
recording time.
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Speaker 1: Can you break that down for us, because that is
27:23
a critical distinction that trips up amateur sleuths constantly.
27:26
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say you take a Snapchat video of the
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party at two point zero zero pm. That is your.
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Speaker 1: Event time, right, that's when the video is actually recorded.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but Horn Island is a remote barrier island. If
27:39
a thousand teenagers are all trying to use the same
27:42
distance cell tower simultaneously, the network gets congested.
27:46
Speaker 1: Oh I hate when that happens. The video just spins
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and spins exactly.
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Speaker 2: Your phone might continuously try to upload that video for
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two hours, finally pushing it through to the server at
27:55
four thirty PM. The server then stamps the post time
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as fourth.
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Speaker 1: So if I'm a random person looking at your public profile,
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I think the event happened at four point thirty, completely
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destroying the timeline.
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Speaker 2: And it gets worse. How if a third party sees
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your video days later, uses their iPhone to screen record it,
28:13
and submits that screen recording to the police, the metadata
28:16
attached to that file will reflect the date and time
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they hit record in their living.
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Speaker 1: Room, stripping away the original geographical data entirely exactly.
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Speaker 2: Law enforcement has to subpoena the social media companies to
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bypass all of that and extract the raw, original server
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side metadata.
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Speaker 1: That sounds exhausting. So once they sort the digital timestamps,
28:35
they have to deal with the physical loose threads, specifically
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Boat X. This is the third massive challenge.
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Speaker 2: The mystery boat.
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Speaker 1: You have this mysterious vessel that was anchored right next
28:46
to Nolan's group, and it vanished from the photographic record
28:50
around the same time. The timeline gets murky.
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Speaker 2: Investigators have to figure out when it left, where it went,
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and crucially who was on it.
28:58
Speaker 1: Did Nolan step onto that boat to talk to someone?
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It is a massive gaping hole in the spatial data.
29:04
Speaker 2: To close those spatial holes, investigators have to move away
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from human recollection entirely, which is the fourth challenge.
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Speaker 1: What's that one?
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Speaker 2: They must authenticate the four point three one pm departure
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of the triton using primary electronic data.
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Speaker 1: You can't just take a teenager's word for it.
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Speaker 2: It cannot build a legal timeline on someone saying, yeah,
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I think we puilled up the anchor around four thirty.
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Speaker 1: They need the hard data.
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Speaker 2: The detectives require the hard encrypted data logus from the
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boat's internal GPS unit, or the raw triangulation data from
29:34
the occupant cell phones pinging the mainland towers to establish
29:39
the exact second that haul broke water.
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Speaker 1: And finally pillar number five. They have to synthesize all
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of this into a master vessel roster.
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Speaker 2: Which means comparing statements to photos.
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Speaker 1: Right, they have to take the sworn occupant by occupant
29:52
statements and cross reference them aggressively against the visual record.
29:56
Speaker 2: So if a witness claims they were standing on the
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bow of the triton the entire afternoon, but the Cajun
30:01
Navy's photographic analysis shows the bow completely empty at four
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point one five pm, you.
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Speaker 1: Have a hard discrepancy. You now have a thread to
30:09
pull during an interrogation.
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Speaker 2: The entire process is a grueling exercise in auditing reality.
30:15
Speaker 1: It's like auditing a bank, but the vault is underwater.
30:18
Half the receipts are written in disappearing ink, and thousands
30:21
of people are screaming at you through the windows while
30:23
you try to do the math.
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Speaker 2: There's a perfect description of the chaos.
30:26
Speaker 1: The Cajun Navy report states plainly that until law enforcement
30:29
can mathematically secure all five of those areas, any narrative
30:33
being pushed online fundamentally exceeds what the supplied evidence can support.
30:38
Speaker 2: And all of this meticulous data gathering, all the metadata analysis,
30:41
and marine physics, ultimately funnels down into the single most
30:46
agonizing question of this entire case.
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Speaker 1: When Nolan Wells entered the water, was it a tragic
30:52
physiological accident or was it the result of human foul play?
30:55
Speaker 2: Alex Beer summarized it perfectly when he said that without
30:58
the sealed autopsy report, all just swinging in the dark
31:01
with a blindfold on.
31:02
Speaker 1: But even without the medical examiner's final word, Beer's expertise
31:06
offers crucial insight into the forensic reality of what happens
31:09
when a human body fails in open water.
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Speaker 2: We have to talk about the physiology of drowning.
31:14
Speaker 1: It's a tough topic, but we need to.
31:16
Speaker 2: The reality of drowning is profoundly misunderstood by the general public,
31:21
largely because our perception is entirely shaped by.
31:23
Speaker 1: Hollywood television conditions us to expect a drowning victim to thrash, violently,
31:28
scream for help, and wave their arms in the air.
31:30
Speaker 2: We expect it to be a loud, disruptive event, but
31:34
forensic divers and water rescue specialists know that the instinctive
31:39
drowning response is almost entirely silent.
31:42
Speaker 1: Because the body's biological programming overrides everything else.
31:45
Speaker 2: Precisely, rather, it is a forced biological override. The respiratory
31:50
system prioritizes breathing above speech.
31:53
Speaker 1: Okay, so they can't even call out when a.
31:55
Speaker 2: Person is struggling to keep their airway above the surface line.
31:58
They physically cannot draw of oxygen to screen. Their arms
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instinctively pressed down laterally against the water to try and
32:05
leverage their mouth upward.
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Speaker 1: They don't wave, they don't splash, The.
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Speaker 2: Inter a state of silent vertical struggle, and they can
32:13
slip beneath the surface within a matter of seconds, often
32:16
just a few feet away from people who have no
32:18
idea they are in distress.
32:19
Speaker 1: That is deeply chilling, the idea that someone could be
32:22
fighting for their life mere feet from a crowded party
32:24
and no one would hear a thing. It happens all
32:26
the time, and there is a statistical demographic reality to
32:30
this tragedy that makes even more complex.
32:32
Speaker 2: There is if you look at the epidemiological data surrounding
32:36
accidental drownings, in the United States, eighteen to twenty four
32:39
year old males represent a massively disproportionate high risk category.
32:44
Speaker 1: Wow.
32:45
Speaker 2: Really, yes, And the tragic paradox is that it is
32:48
frequently their physical prime, their health, and their athleticism that
32:53
leads them into fatal situations.
32:55
Speaker 1: A false sense of invincibility.
32:56
Speaker 2: Yes, a strong athletic eighteen year old boy rarely questions
33:00
his physical limits. He might find himself separated from his boat.
33:04
Look at a sandbar one hundred yards away and calculate,
33:07
I'm an athlete. I can easily swim that.
33:09
Speaker 1: But swimming in open water is a completely different physiological
33:13
demand than swimming lacks in a chlorinated pool.
33:16
Speaker 2: Completely different.
33:17
Speaker 1: In a pool, you have a wall to grab every
33:19
twenty five yards, you have calm, predictable water. In the gulf,
33:23
you are fighting unseen rip currents, title shifts, and changing
33:26
water density.
33:27
Speaker 2: You are also fighting exhaustion in a way the brain
33:30
doesn't anticipate.
33:31
Speaker 1: Because you aren't used to those conditions.
33:33
Speaker 2: Right, an athlete gets halfway across that channel, the current
33:36
pushes back harder than expected. Their muscles fatigue rapidly, and
33:40
panic sets in athleticism cannot overcome the physics of exhaustion
33:44
in a shifting current.
33:46
Speaker 1: It is a devastating scenario that marine rescue teams encounter constantly.
33:50
Speaker 2: It forces you to pause.
33:51
Speaker 1: As a listener. It is incredibly difficult to sit with
33:55
the pain of a family trying to reconcile this. The
33:58
concept that a vibrant, strong, beloved teenager could just silently
34:04
slip beneath the surface of the water while surrounded by
34:06
hundreds of revelers. It is an absolute nightmare.
34:09
Speaker 2: It is the ultimate tragedy, and this is why the
34:11
Granduri's work is so.
34:12
Speaker 1: Critical, because we need to know for sure if.
34:15
Speaker 2: Their review of the sealed forensic evidence concludes that this
34:18
was in fact a tragic physiological accident, the community and
34:22
the Internet at large must be prepared to accept that
34:25
medical reality.
34:26
Speaker 1: They have to pivot from seeking a villain to simply
34:28
mourning a young man.
34:29
Speaker 2: But is, however, the medical evidence indicates foul play, then
34:33
the science will dictate the past to justice, not a
34:36
viral comments section.
34:37
Speaker 1: So we need to take a step back and look
34:39
at the sheer scale of what we've mapped out today.
34:41
Speaker 2: It's a lot to process.
34:43
Speaker 1: We are looking at a tragedy wrapped in an unexplained
34:46
hour long gap in space and time. We have shifting
34:50
vessels tracked by blurry background photos.
34:53
Speaker 2: We have a legally mandated cleanroom that has created a
34:57
massive information vacuum.
34:59
Speaker 1: We have entirely inflicting testimonies regarding sobriety. We have a
35:03
distress call that seems suspicious until you understand the fluid
35:06
dynamics of a sinking hull.
35:07
Speaker 2: Encircling all of this, we have an online mob that
35:11
has gamified a tragedy to the point of threatening lives.
35:14
Speaker 1: If there is a singular, overarching lesson to take away
35:17
from this analysis, it is the vital, non negotiable difference
35:20
between having data and having context.
35:22
Speaker 2: That is the whole point. A time stamp on a
35:24
video file is data. A photograph of a boat is data.
35:28
A rumor about intoxication is data.
35:30
Speaker 1: But context is the corroborated witness statement. Context is the
35:33
primary GPS navigation log. Context is the sealed toxicology report.
35:38
Speaker 2: Data without context is easily weaponized to build false, destructive narratives.
35:42
Speaker 1: This case is a masterclass in why true investigations require time,
35:47
silence and excruciating precision, and why the truth is rarely
35:51
as easily digestible as a thirty second social media clip
35:54
makes it out to be, it never is. So I
35:56
want to leave you with a final thought to process.
35:59
We have engineer to society where every single person carries
36:03
a high definition camera in their pocket. We document millions
36:07
of moments every single day.
36:08
Speaker 2: We are surrounded by more surveillance than any generation in.
36:11
Speaker 1: Human history, Yet paradoxically, objective reality has never felt harder
36:16
to pin down. We are drowning in a sea of
36:19
digital evidence, but we are completely starved for context. So
36:23
months from now, when that grandeury in Mississippi finally concludes
36:26
its secret work and the clean room doors open to
36:29
reveal the official scientific truth of what happened to Nolan Wells,
36:32
ask yourself, will the online community actually be willing to
36:35
accept the cold, forensic reality. Or have the digital battle
36:40
lines of conspiracy already been drawn so deeply that the
36:43
truth simply won't matter anymore