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Jaguars Reporters: Monday, June 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome the Jaguars Reporters presented by t I A A
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Speaker 1: Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and J. P.
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Speaker 1: Shad Pretended by t I A A Bank starts right
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Speaker 1: down Welcome in Jaguar's Reporters podcast. Ashland Sullivan, John Osier,
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick here with you this week. Brian Sexton
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Speaker 1: enjoying some vacation time, so we will get through it
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Speaker 1: just the three of us as it is the last
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Speaker 1: week of voluntary O t a s this week, as
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Speaker 1: we get ready for a three day mandatory mini camp
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Speaker 1: next week. And JP, it kind of is like we
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Speaker 1: started and we didn't have a lot to talk about
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Speaker 1: and we were figuring it out and then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden just exploded and now there's so much going on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a lot of football, a lot of practices this week.
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Speaker 1: I think this is the week with the most O
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Speaker 1: t A S of all three of the weeks. So
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Speaker 1: we'll be out there on Tuesday to get a good
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Speaker 1: look at what's going on. And then of course last
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Speaker 1: week everything off the field as well with the development
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Speaker 1: jumped in there. We'll get an of that a little
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Speaker 1: bit later. But in football world, there is a lot
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Speaker 1: going on, a lot of new faces. We're getting to
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Speaker 1: know some of these new players now over the weeks,
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Speaker 1: and we're looking forward. I'm looking forward to next week
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Speaker 1: to be out there three straight days. Yes, And that's
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Speaker 1: what's been kind of difficult, John, is when when we
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Speaker 1: write and we talked about on the shows, we we
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Speaker 1: only see one practice a week. And that's what's going
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Speaker 1: to lead us to our first thought about Trevor Lawrences
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Speaker 1: had a rocky practice and then had a great practice
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Speaker 1: last week. It's it's hard to find that middle ground. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: from reading Twitter, they are now carving the bust for Trevor,
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Speaker 1: which which is great. Maybe you should and the week
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Speaker 1: before I think they're ready to to kind of from
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Speaker 1: the team and jump off bridges. So that's where we're at. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, we'll get into Trevor in a minute. But
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Speaker 1: I thought a lot of things he did last week
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Speaker 1: it made sense that he was good with those things.
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Speaker 1: It was his strengths. This is a big week. I
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Speaker 1: like JP M looking forward more to next week because
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Speaker 1: I feel like with three days at that point, with
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Speaker 1: having six in the bank, we'll be able to least
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Speaker 1: give some idea of a big picture of what we're seeing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know realistically if even this week we'll be
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Speaker 1: able to do that, but we will try. We will
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Speaker 1: do our best. The problem is, you know we're out
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Speaker 1: there one day a week. Well, I'm sure Trevor has
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Speaker 1: looked pretty good other days of the week, you know.
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Speaker 1: And and Urban even said that the day you're referencing
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Speaker 1: Fanry didn't look so good in the red zone. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's pretty good the day before, according to Urban. So
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Speaker 1: you know, it comes and goes. And that's that's where
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Speaker 1: the three straight days will help our view of it.
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Speaker 1: And that's where the overreaction part comes from, because you're
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Speaker 1: seeing the total picture at all. Absolutely that leads us
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Speaker 1: into Jaguars this week. And the first point I want
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Speaker 1: to make is Trevor Lawrence looked great last week in
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Speaker 1: the practice that we watched. At one stretch, he was
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Speaker 1: eleven for thirteen and very accurate, especially with the deep ball.
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Speaker 1: James of Shaughnessy also had a great day that practice
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Speaker 1: we watched. In Tim Tebow, we'll just put it in there.
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Speaker 1: Caught every pass that was thrown his way and looks
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Speaker 1: like he's holding his own So I am yeah, I
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Speaker 1: have my little notepad. I write him down. I'm not
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Speaker 1: out there just watching butterflies doing something. I see you
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Speaker 1: out there. I can't grab onto that, but what I
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Speaker 1: can I can grab onto. He looked very good. He
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Speaker 1: looked very comfortable. Of course he can come from the pocket.
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Speaker 1: There's nobody rushing him. But he made throws down field, Uh,
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Speaker 1: with accuracy that I think we're at least somewhat indicative
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Speaker 1: of how they might look in a game. Uh. That's
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Speaker 1: what you're looking for, is is the decision making, the accuracy,
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Speaker 1: the deep ball accuracy. He threw a really nice ball
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Speaker 1: to a Shaughnessy that you know, the defender tried to
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Speaker 1: go after, didn't get it. You know, all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden it's it's a touchdown. Um. Impressive. My guess is,
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Speaker 1: if we're looking at what thirteen of these over there,
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Speaker 1: he's probably had three or four days like the one
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Speaker 1: we saw where he struggled. He's probably had eight or
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Speaker 1: nine like last it was the Thursday that he's looked good.
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Speaker 1: That's what you're spo this time. And this is what
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Speaker 1: always frustrates me about fans who will react to youth
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Speaker 1: and training camp. You don't want thirteen great days out
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback, because if you're getting thirteen three days
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Speaker 1: out of the quarterback, nothing's being challenged. There's no learning involved.
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Speaker 1: These are the literally the first times that he has
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Speaker 1: been on the field with these other people, the first
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Speaker 1: time he's going through the offense. When are you supposed
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Speaker 1: to have your rough draft and your mistakes and your
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Speaker 1: learning if it's not right here? If he had been
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Speaker 1: doing this for three or four weeks and had that
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Speaker 1: bad day in the red zone, and he might work
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Speaker 1: it was probably his first red zone practice or when
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Speaker 1: of his first two, So you are you want some
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Speaker 1: failure early so you have something to learn from. It's
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Speaker 1: not going to be perfection. If there was no mistakes,
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Speaker 1: then he's not learning anything. So I'm fine with how
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Speaker 1: it's gone so far. And it wasn't failure as in
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Speaker 1: it was terrible balls thrown or he didn't know what
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Speaker 1: he was doing. It was more so just the timing
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Speaker 1: with the receivers was really off, which you're gonna expect it.
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Speaker 1: It's not also all on him. It wasn't like you
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Speaker 1: can't throw a football, and that's when you're reading Twitter,
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Speaker 1: you kind of since that at times well and The
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Speaker 1: great thing was that all of the Twitter commentary, we're
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Speaker 1: bird's eye views, they had all seen it go down, right,
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Speaker 1: So that was where I really got a lot of
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Speaker 1: the inside. Yeah, he said sarcastic. This is the as
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Speaker 1: we always say, is that over reaction time. But this
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Speaker 1: is the time to go try different throws and try things.
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Speaker 1: And to your point, in Ashlyn, it's the guy had
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Speaker 1: been with the veteran receivers for what four days at
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Speaker 1: that point, Right, They're not gonna go be Marvin Harrison
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Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning. Guess what we're gonna see some of
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Speaker 1: this next season two. Yeah, this is a you know,
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Speaker 1: he is very very good and has it chanced to
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Speaker 1: be very very good. But he's twenty two year old
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. How old is he? He's not thirty seven
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Speaker 1: year old Aaron Rodgers. So there are going to be
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Speaker 1: some ups and down. He's got a couple of two
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Speaker 1: interception games next you he's gonna have and uh, I
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Speaker 1: I always obviously the social media thing, it's here to stay.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get rid of social media JP
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Speaker 1: as hard as I try. But in I can remember
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Speaker 1: sitting on my couch and in San Marco longfo i
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Speaker 1: ever covered the Colts, and I watched Peyton manning for
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Speaker 1: three interceptions against the Patriots on a Sunday night on ESPN.
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Speaker 1: Game looked awful and it was Mike Patrick doing out
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Speaker 1: of the games back then, very underrated Mike Patrick. And
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Speaker 1: at the end of the broadcast, everybody was saying, look,
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Speaker 1: this kid's gonna be fine. This was a couple of
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Speaker 1: you know, this was a bad game. Can you imagine
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Speaker 1: a three interception a to return for touchdowns on Sunday
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Speaker 1: night football right now? Out of the number one overall
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Speaker 1: picking the dract it would be chaos. And that's what
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Speaker 1: happens during rookie years. It's probably what happened to Trevor.
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Speaker 1: Just let him develop, you just let him it won't
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Speaker 1: I get that, it's not the world we live in.
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Speaker 1: But he's listening to this. Have a little perspective when
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Speaker 1: you're hearing your friends say, oh yeah, yeah, there's going
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Speaker 1: to be some ups and downs in this and that's okay.
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Speaker 1: By the way. Mike Patrick former Channel four Sports right
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Speaker 1: and was the voice of the ju Dolphins for a
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Speaker 1: number of years. One of the more underrated that play
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Speaker 1: by play guys of all time played by play guy
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Speaker 1: for the World Football League too. Do you look at
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Speaker 1: that game as a kid? Alright? Moving on jack Wars,
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Speaker 1: this week acts on the Jacksonville Shark, a big news
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Speaker 1: late last week as the Jaguars announced a multitude of
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Speaker 1: downtown developments, including a new football facility that will be
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Speaker 1: ready to rock in the summer of This will allow
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Speaker 1: the stadium to be renovated and the team still to
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Speaker 1: be here in jackson which is a huge note. You've
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Speaker 1: heard hints and whispers and uh, you know, urbans talked
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Speaker 1: about it a little bit, and the players have dropped
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Speaker 1: all the facility on us. Well. The other day it
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Speaker 1: was the first time we really got to see it publicly,
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Speaker 1: and that is what makes it exciting. We've seen a
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Speaker 1: lot of those type of events over the years here though,
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Speaker 1: renderings and the development of downtown and whatever it is.
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Speaker 1: This one feels like it has some more legs. You
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Speaker 1: know that this one could could be the one that
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Speaker 1: really maybe jump starts it. Yeah, the stuff on the river,
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Speaker 1: the Four Seasons hotel is the start of it, and
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Speaker 1: then you've got the office building, and then Baptist Health
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Speaker 1: is involved with the Orthopedic Center and then you put
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Speaker 1: the football facility on top of that. That's a lot
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Speaker 1: of things around the development on the river to help
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Speaker 1: boost it up. I think it's not just the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: and Shot Khan and you know last time was the
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Speaker 1: Quartis companies, but now there are some local stakeholders, the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars football side of the organization and Baptist Health involved
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Speaker 1: and I think we really helped this thing move. John
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Speaker 1: Well a couple of things. It feels organic, first of all,
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Speaker 1: like it feels like there are things that are needed
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Speaker 1: that will be used that all makes sense and all
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Speaker 1: fit football, it fits the area. Uh Uh, I think
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Speaker 1: you remember, I've I've heard a lot of same things
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Speaker 1: that you just alluded to, JP of there's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of rentings, a lot of them come off. Well,
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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of renderings too that have come
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Speaker 1: off over the last ten years. You know, there's been
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Speaker 1: a lot of this day the franchise things we sat
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Speaker 1: in and a shot old out the locker rooms, locker
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Speaker 1: rooms happened, they are rolled out, the video bars rolled
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Speaker 1: out Daily's place. Um, I think there's been a perception.
10:07
Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails about that too. Well,
10:09
Speaker 1: we always see this and it doesn't come off well,
10:11
Speaker 1: that was a lot j but really beyond that, they've
10:15
Speaker 1: been trying to give people the idea and and the
10:20
Speaker 1: possibility of what can be downtown, because if you don't
10:23
Speaker 1: do that, then most of the city sort of looks
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Speaker 1: at and said, well, we can't do anything. It's it
10:27
Speaker 1: looked like this for years. Unless you show people a possibility,
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Speaker 1: then they're never gonna dream it, they're never gonna see it. So, uh,
10:36
Speaker 1: that's sort of a you know, that was very nice
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Speaker 1: of you to say, Walter Middie, But uh, I do
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Speaker 1: think because of the football facility, which feels like that's
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Speaker 1: going to happen, um everything last week, the whole vibe
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Speaker 1: to me was significantly different than any other Downtown vision rollout,
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Speaker 1: and the reaction was different it. Mark Lamping made a
11:02
Speaker 1: reference late in the presentation that a lot of these
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Speaker 1: things had been seen by the city council people. It's
11:10
Speaker 1: been looked at, It has been viewed already. This was
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Speaker 1: not hey, let's maybe look at something that might work.
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Speaker 1: I get a feeling a lot of people who matter
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Speaker 1: in these decisions city team have already looked at this,
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Speaker 1: and it feels like it's something that's a good chance
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Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, and it's exactly how they said it
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Speaker 1: would play out. When Lot J didn't work out as planned,
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Speaker 1: they said, all right, we're gonna go back to the
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Speaker 1: drawing board and we're not going to give up. We're
11:35
Speaker 1: going to find another solution to this, which is exactly
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Speaker 1: what happens. And then to the football side of this,
11:39
Speaker 1: and I know nationally you'll discuss this a little more
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Speaker 1: coming up. I mean, it is it was vital to
11:45
Speaker 1: have that for Urban Meyer and this football team too
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Speaker 1: to really move forward and try to become one of
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Speaker 1: the upper tier teams in the National Football League, to
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Speaker 1: have the space to do it. Just the space numbers
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Speaker 1: alone really blew my mind during that presentation the other day,
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Speaker 1: the average square footage of team facilities in the NFL
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Speaker 1: compared to what the Jaguars had here night and day.
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Speaker 1: So get to that level and have the best of
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Speaker 1: the best and have room for the best of the
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Speaker 1: best for these players. Yeah, it's frankly, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: walk around the stadium right now and there's just simply
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Speaker 1: not enough room for everyone. We have outgrown the stadium.
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Speaker 1: Coaches in Clo, you gotta point them somewhere you got
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Speaker 1: to get another building. And when people hear that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of emails from people saying, well,
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Speaker 1: why wasn't something done before. Well, logistically, when this facility
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Speaker 1: that we're sitting in was developed planned, this wasn't unusual.
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Speaker 1: This was how it was and this is where the
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Speaker 1: facility was. So over time, other teams began to do
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Speaker 1: things differently, and now this is the time where this
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Speaker 1: France shies is going to catch up. I guess that's
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Speaker 1: the right word. They're gonna catch up and be a
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Speaker 1: modern facility. I think the thing that we haven't touched
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Speaker 1: on that JP I mentioned very early it the significant
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Speaker 1: thing here that I hadn't heard before was a definite
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Speaker 1: they are going to renovate and not rebuild, or it's
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Speaker 1: not gonna be a new Stadium's gonna be renovating this one.
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Speaker 1: You had gotten that impression in the last couple of
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Speaker 1: years from talking to people that they thought that was
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Speaker 1: gonna be what was economically feasible. So that's interesting that
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Speaker 1: this is the first step toward that, and sometimes over
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Speaker 1: the next ten years that's going to become the major
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Speaker 1: storyline is how this stadium will look when it's renovated. UM,
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Speaker 1: A lot j other stuff has always felt like the
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Speaker 1: precursor to that. Last Thursday, I think was the first
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Speaker 1: step to seeing their vision of what they wanted to be.
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Speaker 1: The football facility outside would be the first step. And
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Speaker 1: then that would be significant because you've got to think
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Speaker 1: that whatever designing they do off of that, the stadium
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Speaker 1: is going to have a lot of that feel in
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Speaker 1: terms of the modern in terms of you know, the
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Speaker 1: branding or whatever all that is. That would be the
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Speaker 1: first step to something major in the stadium with shape
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Speaker 1: that is nice. Just look at the Miami Dolphins and
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Speaker 1: what they did. It's a great example of what could be.
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Speaker 1: If you've seen that stadium before and after, it is
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Speaker 1: night and day. All right, last little tidbit signing Pharaoh
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Speaker 1: Cooper last week, entering a sixth season, had a few
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Speaker 1: stops around the league, primarily known as a punt returner,
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Speaker 1: so that's a little interesting, but an All Pro Pro
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Speaker 1: Bowl wide receiver adding to the list of a group
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Speaker 1: that was already pretty deep. In my opinion, I was
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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. I'm not gonna lie, yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little know. In fact, JP's middle name is Pharaoh.
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Speaker 1: That's what the peace stands for. And my middle initial
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Speaker 1: is also P and that stands for Pharaoh. So that's
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Speaker 1: where we're going with that. What are you saying? I
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Speaker 1: didn't it's all over best buds man like with the
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Speaker 1: same middle name. He just come up with things that.
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Speaker 1: This didn't excite me that much. I mean, yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: not a burner. Yeah, I hope he works out. He
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Speaker 1: had a huge run against the Jags in seventeen. That's
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Speaker 1: sort of what I know about him. This felt more like,
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Speaker 1: let's bring a guy in, let's see if it works.
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Speaker 1: Considering how deep they are, I was surprised with the
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Speaker 1: move and I would be a little surprised if it
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Speaker 1: winds up being a thing we're talking about during the
15:29
Speaker 1: season because they're so deep a receiver and they have
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Speaker 1: so many bodies. Uh, but it's competition. Well, we were
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Speaker 1: out of practice foot not this past week, the week
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Speaker 1: before Terry Godwin went down and he's on I R now.
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Speaker 1: So it opened a receiver spot. They needed a body
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Speaker 1: and to ten and that's Pharaoh Cooper and I think
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Speaker 1: he ran high four fives, four or six of his
15:51
Speaker 1: pro day way long time. He sounds fast, it's a
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Speaker 1: fast sounding name. He can run those Chris routes and
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Speaker 1: and get open then make plays after the fact. You know,
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Speaker 1: we'll see. All right, well, let's get into big things.
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Speaker 1: GP your up first, Okay, um, Joke Colin was miked
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Speaker 1: up last week. We saw it on Jaguars dot Com
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Speaker 1: and it gave us a window inside the defensive mindset
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Speaker 1: for him and for the culture they're trying to build,
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Speaker 1: especially on that side of the football. We we know
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Speaker 1: Joke from the last time he was here, John, and
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Speaker 1: you know his personality and his attitude and the way
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Speaker 1: he goes about it on the practice field and motivates players,
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Speaker 1: and they love him for it. They loved him for
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Speaker 1: it here. He certainly loved him in Baltimore. It felt
16:40
Speaker 1: like when we were up there for training camp a
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Speaker 1: few years ago. And you can tell in the interaction
16:46
Speaker 1: that we saw on that video that they're still really
16:48
Speaker 1: starting to like him here. And I think he's around
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Speaker 1: the d line a little more just because that's his nature.
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Speaker 1: He goes back to that group. He's the defensive coordinator now.
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Speaker 1: But you know what, there's that It was fun. I
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Speaker 1: could listen to him on a practice field with a
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Speaker 1: microphone all day long. It is thoroughly entertaining act it is.
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Speaker 1: It's the biggest difference I think I noticed. And it's
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Speaker 1: not just him, it's really the whole coaching staff. But
17:14
Speaker 1: when you watch, for example, the group stretch where everyone's
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Speaker 1: in the line, and it's not specific to your position
17:20
Speaker 1: group like for example, Joe coll and you saw him
17:22
Speaker 1: with the wide receivers and the running backs, and you
17:24
Speaker 1: see the tight ends coach with a defensive line asking
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Speaker 1: everyone how their day is going. It's very hands on,
17:29
Speaker 1: and I think we've become accustomed to seeing it very
17:33
Speaker 1: clicky for lack of a better word. And and this
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Speaker 1: seems very inclusive where every coach is involved in every
17:39
Speaker 1: step of the team a. Joe's intriguing guy because the
17:43
Speaker 1: way he coaches, I think is the way you have
17:45
Speaker 1: to coach NFL players these days. And I think urban
17:49
Speaker 1: I would guess he gravitated that he knew he knew
17:52
Speaker 1: Joe and they've known each other for twenty years and
17:56
Speaker 1: they have they understand how each other coaches. Joe is
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Speaker 1: a player's coach, but he is going to be I
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Speaker 1: would say, hypercritical, but he's hard on players. He drives
18:11
Speaker 1: them but he also is able to do it with
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Speaker 1: this feeling of when he's yelling at me, he's yelling
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Speaker 1: at me because he loves me. Yeah, and it's it's
18:23
Speaker 1: because I see something in you. They can make you great,
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Speaker 1: and by me yelling at you, I'm going to earn
18:29
Speaker 1: you millions of dollars because you're gonna be in the
18:31
Speaker 1: league a long time. You know it's your best interest,
18:34
Speaker 1: and you know that is a fine line because you
18:39
Speaker 1: know if you're yelling and it's not that, then NFL
18:43
Speaker 1: players like well, you know, or anybody would be and
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Speaker 1: it turns them off. But that's so if you talk
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Speaker 1: to Joe j P what you did when he was here,
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Speaker 1: that's there in him. You can't not like the guy.
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Speaker 1: You can't not feel like he is a he is
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Speaker 1: a wonderful person. So he's got that sort of core
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Speaker 1: and it enables him to go coach them hard and
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Speaker 1: be as demanding as possible and drive them and they
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Speaker 1: still accept it and they know they're all on the
19:12
Speaker 1: same page. And I I'm not surprised that he's working
19:15
Speaker 1: a little more with the defensive life. It's his background
19:19
Speaker 1: and it's where they have to improve the most. Quickly,
19:22
Speaker 1: because if they're like they were in the passion the
19:24
Speaker 1: defensive line, then then nothing else matters. So it's gonna
19:28
Speaker 1: be that part of the defense, the front seven. I'm
19:33
Speaker 1: as interested to see what that looks like as anything
19:37
Speaker 1: I've ever covered here in ten years, because how they're
19:41
Speaker 1: going to use these guys. It's so hard to stay
19:43
Speaker 1: with this guy plays this position. This guys plays this
19:45
Speaker 1: position X. All the old terms we've used for years
19:48
Speaker 1: don't really fit. And even they when they talk about it, well,
19:52
Speaker 1: he's gonna do this in base he's going to do this.
19:55
Speaker 1: So seeing how these guys are used is going to
19:57
Speaker 1: be fascinating during training. Camp can change. It could change
20:00
Speaker 1: week to week and the steams start down to down.
20:03
Speaker 1: I mean you could roll any kind of combination out there.
20:07
Speaker 1: And particularly fascinated to see how they use Miles Jack
20:09
Speaker 1: because everybody when this first happened, the instinct was to say, well,
20:14
Speaker 1: it's a it's a three or four defense and Miles
20:17
Speaker 1: actually be an inside linebacker and he's gonna be misused.
20:20
Speaker 1: It's gonna be just like two thousand. My understanding is
20:24
Speaker 1: there is a dynamic role for Miles Jack in his
20:27
Speaker 1: defense and It's not like he's gonna be standing in
20:30
Speaker 1: the middle of the defense and just stuff in the run.
20:32
Speaker 1: He is going to have a major role because guess what,
20:35
Speaker 1: Joe Colan likes to bring pressure and Miles jack when
20:39
Speaker 1: he was outside could run down and make play. So
20:42
Speaker 1: let's see what combination that makes actual Absolutely all right, John,
20:45
Speaker 1: what is your big thing? I think thing is even
20:48
Speaker 1: though we've talked about it before, um urban Meyer's approach
20:55
Speaker 1: and his honesty when talking about players, which we saw
20:59
Speaker 1: it's our I'm a little bit. But he talked about
21:05
Speaker 1: DJ Chark in some very candid terms last week. He
21:09
Speaker 1: also talked about Miles jack Ands and some not quite
21:12
Speaker 1: as candid terms. Uh say that Miles come in a
21:15
Speaker 1: little overweight and gotten that out of the way quickly.
21:18
Speaker 1: And it's intriguing because it's just sort of override what
21:25
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it in a couple of minutes.
21:27
Speaker 1: DJ Chark Urban basically said he wasn't very good last year.
21:32
Speaker 1: He had to get bigger and stronger. Well, when you
21:35
Speaker 1: say something like that automatically, it's it's gonna Oh he's
21:39
Speaker 1: ripping him. Oh he's he he's criticized. He's calling him
21:43
Speaker 1: out was one of the tweets that so Urban calls
21:46
Speaker 1: DJ Chark out. Well, in this day and age, in
21:49
Speaker 1: the Zoom Call, everybody's gonna be sitting on what the
21:52
Speaker 1: coach said and anything that's remotely negative. Oh, I'm surprised
21:59
Speaker 1: there wasn't a Urban doesn't like dj R, you know,
22:03
Speaker 1: but that's not the tone of how he said it.
22:06
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting as time goes on to
22:09
Speaker 1: see how candid Urban remains on players like that, I thought.
22:13
Speaker 1: I think the way he has done it so far
22:15
Speaker 1: has made a lot of sense because it's usually been
22:18
Speaker 1: after the fact, meaning, hey, DJ Chark, I went to
22:23
Speaker 1: him in March and now two months later, he has
22:26
Speaker 1: done what we asked him to do. So it's not
22:28
Speaker 1: really criticism, it's more telling the stories. I don't think
22:31
Speaker 1: Urban is going to go down the road of calling
22:34
Speaker 1: somebody out when the problem or the story hasn't already
22:39
Speaker 1: been sort of walked forward a little bit. I just
22:42
Speaker 1: think he's trying to be honest and trying to tell
22:44
Speaker 1: the player's story. To me, that made DJ Chark look
22:46
Speaker 1: good because he responded to it, and you can tell
22:50
Speaker 1: him the Zoom Call. He's a different looking kid. The
22:52
Speaker 1: stories will come when there are successful stories like that.
22:55
Speaker 1: You know, if it doesn't end up in a positive way,
22:59
Speaker 1: you probably won't hear that back straight from I didn't
23:02
Speaker 1: take that I'm gonna throw guys under the bus because
23:06
Speaker 1: he's here to protect his team and protect his players.
23:09
Speaker 1: He's all about the players, right, He's not gonna throw
23:11
Speaker 1: a bus for not working out or whatever happens. But
23:14
Speaker 1: in this day and age, you say something like that,
23:16
Speaker 1: everybody's I mean, no, it's unique, for sure, yes, and
23:20
Speaker 1: we didn't like we had said before. We didn't know
23:23
Speaker 1: that was gonna be urban Meyer and his personality, zoom
23:26
Speaker 1: calls or whatever. But it's really been nice. Well, but
23:29
Speaker 1: I get questions from fans, how are players responding to this?
23:33
Speaker 1: Are they mad? To me, that didn't feel like what
23:37
Speaker 1: that was. And I don't think that will be taking
23:39
Speaker 1: that way in the locker room. But we're in such
23:42
Speaker 1: a vanilla media society right now, where you know, coaches
23:46
Speaker 1: are so scared to say anything that when you are
23:48
Speaker 1: candid like that, it's a little unusual. So people take
23:51
Speaker 1: it as harsh or critics and I didn't see it
23:54
Speaker 1: that way. I don't think players see it that way,
23:56
Speaker 1: But there are people who interpret it that way because
23:59
Speaker 1: it's so unusual and it's frankly, he just doesn't care
24:01
Speaker 1: what you think, which I think is a fabulous thing.
24:03
Speaker 1: And I catch myself, especially at the end of last season,
24:06
Speaker 1: when we talked about DJ Chark, we we drifted towards
24:09
Speaker 1: talking about the quarterback more so, and look what he
24:11
Speaker 1: had to deal with, and look at all the quarterback changes,
24:13
Speaker 1: and how could he have succeeded with Look at this
24:16
Speaker 1: what he had to deal with. And I think it
24:18
Speaker 1: was interesting that urban Meyer never touched on that. He
24:21
Speaker 1: never even brought up the quarterback situation. It was all
24:24
Speaker 1: on DJ, what what can you do to make yourself better?
24:27
Speaker 1: Not things you can't control? Right alrighty, Well, my big
24:33
Speaker 1: thing is the lack of a team facility always made
24:36
Speaker 1: the Jaguars not on the same level as the rest
24:39
Speaker 1: of the league. And I remember when we flew to Baltimore,
24:41
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, a couple of years ago, and I
24:43
Speaker 1: walked in that facility. It was night and day. It
24:46
Speaker 1: was not even close to the same level. And you
24:49
Speaker 1: think to yourself, how can an NFL team succeed when
24:52
Speaker 1: some teams have this and the Jaguars have that. So
24:56
Speaker 1: finally the Jaguars are getting that facility and have an
24:59
Speaker 1: even playing field. You frankly thought they never had a
25:02
Speaker 1: chance to succeed because they were never given the necessary tools.
25:06
Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting when Brandon Lennard was
25:08
Speaker 1: asked about finally getting those tools and it was oh,
25:11
Speaker 1: or are you privileged? Are you do you feel honored
25:14
Speaker 1: that you're getting this? He's like, no, I feel like
25:17
Speaker 1: I can do my job now. And that's a huge thing. Yeah,
25:21
Speaker 1: I think you can. You can win without the multimillion
25:25
Speaker 1: dollar facility. It's yeah, And uh so I wouldn't say
25:33
Speaker 1: that you have to have the Baltimore and the Minnesota
25:36
Speaker 1: and it's coming in Jacksonville. But there's no reason in
25:40
Speaker 1: this day and age in the league not too so.
25:44
Speaker 1: I think now this is their moment to transition into that.
25:49
Speaker 1: It's like anything in this league. When the Jaguars started
25:52
Speaker 1: in Unfortunately I'm old enough to have been there, this
25:57
Speaker 1: was state of the art. Yes, I'm sure this was. Yeah,
26:01
Speaker 1: I mean, and they were number two or three in
26:04
Speaker 1: the league in total revenue because everything was set up,
26:07
Speaker 1: they had the best set up. They were the newest.
26:10
Speaker 1: That's how it works. Over the course of twenty seven years,
26:13
Speaker 1: they went from being the newest to one of the
26:15
Speaker 1: oldest because everybody else renovated. Well, guess what when they
26:18
Speaker 1: do this, When they build this in two thousand twenty three,
26:22
Speaker 1: there'll be one of the four or five newest. In
26:25
Speaker 1: twenty five years, there'll be one ian. It's a constant insurance,
26:28
Speaker 1: a constant arms race. This is this team's moment and
26:32
Speaker 1: and the city's moment to get back up into the
26:35
Speaker 1: arms race, so to speak. And the NFL is an
26:38
Speaker 1: expensive venture. At some point in the future, there will
26:40
Speaker 1: be another time when you got to there'll be other
26:42
Speaker 1: improvements we can't even imagine. I guess they'll be flying
26:44
Speaker 1: stadiums or it's a there'll be something that you've got
26:48
Speaker 1: to keep up with because it's it's the biggest, most popular,
26:52
Speaker 1: most expensive sport in the country to be involved with.
26:55
Speaker 1: And that's always gonna be one open one upping. I mean,
26:57
Speaker 1: you look at the Star in Dallas, for example, and
26:59
Speaker 1: I'm sure in ten years will be like the Star.
27:02
Speaker 1: Look at them Minnesota, Los Angeles, and I'm not sure
27:05
Speaker 1: that you have to go to that route. I think
27:07
Speaker 1: that's the outlier that Mark was talking about in in
27:10
Speaker 1: the presentation last week. I as soon there'll be outliers
27:14
Speaker 1: like that. But you know, Minnesota, Baltimore, those are standards
27:19
Speaker 1: that I think most teams will be up with. UH.
27:23
Speaker 1: And it sounds like the Jaguars will be right there.
27:25
Speaker 1: The Minnesota one feels like it's closer to this setup
27:28
Speaker 1: than some of the others. Like Baltimore. They're out in
27:31
Speaker 1: a neighborhood in the suburb, right and there's not much
27:35
Speaker 1: room for development. Minnesota one is development around their facility. Yeah,
27:40
Speaker 1: it's a whole town around. Similar idea. I think here
27:43
Speaker 1: the facility comes development around it, it spurs other things.
27:48
Speaker 1: You know, that was just a giant parcel of land
27:50
Speaker 1: out in the nowhere that they have developed into something.
27:53
Speaker 1: But and that's a key to remember for shot I
27:56
Speaker 1: interrupted u JP but it UH. I get questions all
27:59
Speaker 1: the time, do you think the Jaguar And there were
28:02
Speaker 1: even some people asking last week, Hey, is this gonna
28:05
Speaker 1: be UH? Are they going to announce that they're going
28:08
Speaker 1: to rebuild the stadium in in St. John's or are
28:12
Speaker 1: they going to build their facility in Clay County. UM.
28:17
Speaker 1: I would have been stunned. I would be stunned if
28:20
Speaker 1: Shot ever considers doing anything with the Jaguars outside of
28:26
Speaker 1: this square patch they were sitting on, because his vision
28:31
Speaker 1: since day one has been to have a vibrant downtown
28:36
Speaker 1: and to have the Jaguars be the center of it.
28:38
Speaker 1: Whatever he does, he's going to try to develop it
28:40
Speaker 1: in this because he wants this to be a jewel
28:43
Speaker 1: in downtown Jacksonville, not a jewel outside of Jacksonville. No,
28:47
Speaker 1: we don't want that. All right, it's time for did
28:49
Speaker 1: you hear this? We mentioned it, so we'll breeze through it.
28:52
Speaker 1: John mentioned how candid coach Meyer really can be and
28:55
Speaker 1: d J. Chart had a tough season last year, not
28:57
Speaker 1: a secret to anyone. We all know that. And coach
29:00
Speaker 1: Meyer news he can play better. He didn't play well
29:02
Speaker 1: last year, and and uh, obviously his first year he
29:05
Speaker 1: was very good. I just didn't like the his size,
29:09
Speaker 1: his strength, I didn't, you know. I just thought it
29:11
Speaker 1: was way below average, way below what we expect from
29:14
Speaker 1: our receivers. And he was told that. And the best
29:17
Speaker 1: thing I love about DJs he addressed it and hit
29:20
Speaker 1: it very hard, gained seven pounds of muscle. He's playing
29:23
Speaker 1: a much more physical game. He's a big guy that
29:25
Speaker 1: played little last year and that can't happen. You know.
29:28
Speaker 1: You know, guys like Mike Thomas and uh Lewis Murphy
29:31
Speaker 1: are those big, strong, fast receivers and he's got to
29:33
Speaker 1: play big and strong and he can now because he's
29:36
Speaker 1: he is big and strong. So I just had it, ironically,
29:39
Speaker 1: a good meeting with him as we walked off the field.
29:42
Speaker 1: We can't lose that strength and power gains that he
29:45
Speaker 1: made in the off season, and um, he's committed to
29:48
Speaker 1: do it this summer. So we touched on it. We
29:50
Speaker 1: we talked about and I think the biggest thing for
29:52
Speaker 1: me is I go back to when Coach Meyer talked
29:54
Speaker 1: about wanting Kadarius Tony in the draft, and that was
29:56
Speaker 1: the first time I was like, Wow, that's honest. This
29:59
Speaker 1: was another one moment when I was Wow, that's honest.
30:01
Speaker 1: But we appreciate it. Yeah, And again, it's so unusual
30:05
Speaker 1: that people are almost stunned by honesty because you're so
30:09
Speaker 1: used to sound bites. When Meyer says these things, and
30:12
Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to the DJ Chart quote,
30:14
Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the Darius Tony quote.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's not criticism of the player. It's it's not anger,
30:22
Speaker 1: it's simply I get the idea that the conversation or
30:26
Speaker 1: the quote about DJ Chart was probably exactly what Urban
30:31
Speaker 1: said to DJ Chart in March. And I'm sure DJ
30:35
Speaker 1: w hey, you're right. Good, Yeah, I'm gonna go work
30:38
Speaker 1: on that. Like so it's not like he's pounding the
30:42
Speaker 1: table and trying to make a point in grandstanding to
30:45
Speaker 1: the public about this. He's just saying the facts of
30:48
Speaker 1: here's what he's got to do to get better, and
30:50
Speaker 1: there's no reason why he can't. And I think he's
30:52
Speaker 1: gonna be great once he does this. And I think
30:54
Speaker 1: I like the fact that DJ took the advice and
30:58
Speaker 1: ran with it. That kind of a player that will
31:01
Speaker 1: listen to somebody who's had a lot of success in
31:04
Speaker 1: building wide receivers. And don't think that Urban doesn't want
31:07
Speaker 1: those kind of players, the ones that don't respond to If,
31:10
Speaker 1: like what we said a little bit earlier, if the
31:13
Speaker 1: player doesn't respond for some reason or is not responding
31:16
Speaker 1: as favorably to some of that criticism, we would never
31:20
Speaker 1: heard about this, right, And it's you know, he tells
31:22
Speaker 1: you a lot about DJs, absolutely does and he's stuck
31:25
Speaker 1: to his personality. Because we were doing an interview with
31:28
Speaker 1: him a couple of months ago and he walked in
31:30
Speaker 1: the room and he goes, you can call me muscles now.
31:32
Speaker 1: I think he had gained about eight pounds at that point,
31:35
Speaker 1: and he was he was hyping himself up. So he's
31:37
Speaker 1: not subtle about this, that's for sure. All right, it
31:40
Speaker 1: is time for everyone asked I will go first, who
31:43
Speaker 1: is someone you want to know more about? And I
31:46
Speaker 1: gotta say minus Roy Robertson Harris And I go back
31:49
Speaker 1: to those interviews and it was during free agency and
31:52
Speaker 1: he came in with his kids and his wife, and
31:54
Speaker 1: it was almost like he was this teddy bear of
31:57
Speaker 1: a person, like almost Calais square. He was the sweetest guy,
32:02
Speaker 1: and we hadn't seen him on the field yet, and
32:03
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, he's been a really friendly,
32:06
Speaker 1: nice guy. And then I watched him on the practice
32:08
Speaker 1: field the other day and even filming him when he
32:10
Speaker 1: was walking to practice. He just kind of mean muggs
32:14
Speaker 1: you and is focused and intense and I was like,
32:17
Speaker 1: what happened? What mean mugs? Like he walked by just
32:20
Speaker 1: kind of stared. I was like, face, Yeah, like you're scary.
32:26
Speaker 1: That's one of those young people. Think that's not the
32:28
Speaker 1: young thing at all. That's some very common phrase. Never heard. Okay,
32:32
Speaker 1: So yes, I'm trying to figure him out and he
32:34
Speaker 1: totally kind of threw me through open. This is a
32:36
Speaker 1: guy I want to know more about. Where Robertson Harris JP,
32:40
Speaker 1: who's yours? Oh boy, this is a tough one. I um,
32:46
Speaker 1: And it's weird saying it. But we haven't had much
32:50
Speaker 1: conversation with a guy like Travis E t N since
32:53
Speaker 1: the draft. He hadn't He hasn't talked much. We haven't
32:56
Speaker 1: been able to really dig into his deep background and
33:00
Speaker 1: kind of what drives him and keeps them going and um,
33:04
Speaker 1: you know how it's going so far, you know, um,
33:07
Speaker 1: and what kind of role he envisions in this offense
33:10
Speaker 1: and all those things. So, um, I got like E
33:14
Speaker 1: t N. I was gonna say, James Robinson, but I
33:17
Speaker 1: don't know if that, you know, if we don't know
33:18
Speaker 1: him by now, I do And that's okay and nothing
33:22
Speaker 1: wrong with that. But so I'll go E t N.
33:25
Speaker 1: New guy. How's he fit? How's he feeling? We just
33:28
Speaker 1: don't know a lot about him yet. Yeah, all Uh,
33:31
Speaker 1: I have a specific but the reality is you don't
33:35
Speaker 1: have the twelve players last year, not all of them
33:37
Speaker 1: are still here. But you know, probably what eleven twelve
33:40
Speaker 1: newcomers from last year on the team, including James Robinson
33:43
Speaker 1: and fifteen or sixteen more, and because of the zoom
33:47
Speaker 1: nature of things, there's probably twenty five or thirty guys
33:50
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind getting the more you know, and that we
33:54
Speaker 1: know them from zoom and we know them from the
33:56
Speaker 1: occasional sit down interview, but you don't know them in
34:00
Speaker 1: the way that maybe you knew Calais or you know, uh,
34:06
Speaker 1: Aaron Coleman was he was when he was here at
34:08
Speaker 1: about relationship from talking to in the locker room. There's
34:11
Speaker 1: something about that locker room atmosphere where you get a
34:16
Speaker 1: chance to just sort of get to know a guy
34:17
Speaker 1: beyond what he's saying in sound bites. I think we
34:20
Speaker 1: have a little bit there, but not quite as much
34:23
Speaker 1: as as as you normally would. Um. You know, it's
34:28
Speaker 1: gonna sound stupid, but I'd still like to get to
34:31
Speaker 1: know more about Trevor Lawrence beyond what we have seen publicly.
34:36
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting to see how
34:41
Speaker 1: he handles the day today of training camp, talking afterwards
34:48
Speaker 1: how he handles the day to day quarterback thing. I
34:51
Speaker 1: guess we know we're probably know what we're gonna know
34:54
Speaker 1: about his story off the field, but I'm looking forward
34:58
Speaker 1: to seeing how he functions in the day to day
35:02
Speaker 1: team environment to know more about that's not really the
35:04
Speaker 1: answer I think something's looking for, but that's you know,
35:08
Speaker 1: getting to see how he does his job each day
35:13
Speaker 1: in the way that we always see the Corvette. Each
35:15
Speaker 1: quarterback has a different dynamic of how they handle things,
35:18
Speaker 1: of how they handle difficult questions, if how to handle preparation.
35:23
Speaker 1: So I think that's as fascinating as anything to me
35:26
Speaker 1: about this season. There's this This kind of goes into
35:28
Speaker 1: the bigger sport conversations going on right now about locker
35:32
Speaker 1: room access and you know, athletes speaking to media or
35:36
Speaker 1: having to speak with media after what that will look
35:40
Speaker 1: like this year In the NFL, I think they're still
35:41
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if locker rooms will be open
35:43
Speaker 1: to media or not um But for us, for me
35:48
Speaker 1: at least, it's a valuable piece of what we do
35:53
Speaker 1: because you do get to know some background or a
35:56
Speaker 1: mindset of a player without having him have to say
35:59
Speaker 1: it on a micro phone. You can you can verbalize
36:02
Speaker 1: it for them or you know, give a synopsis or
36:05
Speaker 1: an idea of how a guy works. And that's important
36:08
Speaker 1: in our storytelling world and podcasts and everything to to
36:12
Speaker 1: know these guys a little bit better. Yeah, without getting
36:14
Speaker 1: too inside football into media relations, a lot of veterans
36:18
Speaker 1: will tell you it's valuable for players too in this sense.
36:22
Speaker 1: I was talking to a J. Cann last week for
36:23
Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast, and a J is a guy, as
36:26
Speaker 1: you guys know, uh, six seventh year veteran. When you're
36:31
Speaker 1: in the locker room with a player like a J
36:36
Speaker 1: and there's a mob around him talking about the offensive
36:38
Speaker 1: line and you know, and there's certain things these players
36:40
Speaker 1: stay on camera and once it sort of breaks up,
36:43
Speaker 1: you can talk to him after and said, hey, what
36:45
Speaker 1: was going on there, and he can give you the
36:47
Speaker 1: background of look, I get that people are saying this,
36:52
Speaker 1: but this guy was injured. This is what's really going on.
36:54
Speaker 1: This is you know, and he Usually they don't call
36:59
Speaker 1: their teammates out there, not but they can give you
37:02
Speaker 1: a perspective on what's really going on. And so that
37:07
Speaker 1: helps players just as much as it does media for
37:11
Speaker 1: the real story to be out. To have a relationship
37:15
Speaker 1: with the media, it helps players more than I think
37:17
Speaker 1: fans might realize. So I don't know which direction that's
37:22
Speaker 1: going to go, but I think it's dangerous to not
37:25
Speaker 1: have some sort of interaction beyond a zoom call with
37:30
Speaker 1: the local media covering the team and with players. It
37:33
Speaker 1: always talks about building the players brand, right A winning
37:37
Speaker 1: does that, That's the main thing, he always says. But
37:40
Speaker 1: being in front of a camera and on microphones helps
37:42
Speaker 1: the brand as well. If you, you know, nurture it
37:45
Speaker 1: the right way, it can really help a person outside
37:49
Speaker 1: of the football realm as well. Totally agree there, We
37:52
Speaker 1: have it all right, j P. What did your everyone
37:54
Speaker 1: ask James Robinson, Jaguars running back head over a thousand
37:58
Speaker 1: yards last year. You've heard of him. What does rushing
38:02
Speaker 1: yardage total this season? It is going to be between
38:06
Speaker 1: seven hundred and eight hundred yards. I think we all agree,
38:10
Speaker 1: and we heard coach Maron say this actually last season,
38:13
Speaker 1: that James Robinson frankly carried the ball too often. Last
38:16
Speaker 1: year he was still incredibly successful, but it was very predictable.
38:20
Speaker 1: And I think now with the additions of Carlos Hyde
38:23
Speaker 1: and Travis E t N. He's not going to get
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Speaker 1: as many carries. He's not going to have as many yards.
38:28
Speaker 1: Not to say that he won't be as successful, but
38:30
Speaker 1: he carried the ball too much last season and frankly
38:33
Speaker 1: he's now not going to have as many yards because
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Speaker 1: of it. I um, I agree. Conceptually, the number depends
38:44
Speaker 1: on if he stays healthy, if he if he plays
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Speaker 1: sixteen games, I think he goes over what's lens thrown
38:51
Speaker 1: out there? If if he plays sixteen, I think in
38:54
Speaker 1: this day and age, if you play sixteen is a
38:55
Speaker 1: rotational guy, but you're the main guy. And I think
38:57
Speaker 1: he'll be the main guy. Uh. I think he can
39:00
Speaker 1: get eleven hundred ish, you know, and if the offense
39:04
Speaker 1: is functioning, he should. I mean, if you're the main
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Speaker 1: guy in the offense, I eleven would be a really
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Speaker 1: really good year. Uh thousand, eleven hundred in that range
39:16
Speaker 1: is attainable in this day and age. Back I think
39:21
Speaker 1: has to stay healthy to do that, and that's the
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Speaker 1: real gauge. If he plays thirteen games, you know, which
39:26
Speaker 1: is not unusual for a back because you take away
39:28
Speaker 1: and tear, then I think makes sense. So I would
39:33
Speaker 1: say in that range, I'm gonna say eight thirty seven yards. Wow,
39:38
Speaker 1: all right, where did you get from? I don't know,
39:43
Speaker 1: I just discuss all right, fair enough? This sort of
39:46
Speaker 1: newsy does Julio Jones to the Tennessee Titans scary? Is Slynn? Yeah?
39:53
Speaker 1: It scares me more than it did before he was traded,
39:56
Speaker 1: That's for sure. It does because it hadn't happened. It
39:58
Speaker 1: doesn't help. It doesn't help my word. Um, I do
40:01
Speaker 1: think it's a little overplayed. I think Julio Jones, near
40:03
Speaker 1: the end of his career, still a very successful wide receiver,
40:07
Speaker 1: but it is a little overplayed. But the tight ends
40:09
Speaker 1: as a whole. Derrick Henry scared me way more than
40:11
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. I think he always will. But this certainly
40:14
Speaker 1: doesn't help the cause. Well, you got Julio Jones. Now,
40:19
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, that's one thing. You're gonna see him
40:21
Speaker 1: once this year the Falcons game, right, if he's available. No,
40:23
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him twice if he's healthy. With a
40:26
Speaker 1: J Brown on the other side, big monster, and another
40:30
Speaker 1: big monster in the backfield, and Henry with a quarterback
40:33
Speaker 1: who with those weapons can perform very well. I don't
40:37
Speaker 1: know if he can do it on his own, but
40:38
Speaker 1: you throw another weapon out there. If he's healthy, he's
40:41
Speaker 1: still Julio Jones and this is still a rebuilt secondary
40:45
Speaker 1: that hasn't proven a thing yet. Yeah, and you guys
40:49
Speaker 1: have hit on it. If healthy, he's really really scary
40:53
Speaker 1: right now. Realistically, is this move going to be a
40:58
Speaker 1: home run for the time it is over three years.
41:01
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a core player
41:04
Speaker 1: for them for three years. It would it would defy
41:07
Speaker 1: the course of his career the last couple of years
41:09
Speaker 1: if he plays forty eight games and is an All
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Speaker 1: prover the next three years. But on a game to
41:14
Speaker 1: game basis, he's the kind of guy who could be
41:18
Speaker 1: hurt for five, play eleven and be devastatingly good in
41:22
Speaker 1: those eleven. So if if if two of those eleven
41:26
Speaker 1: or twelve against the Jags, one of them might be
41:29
Speaker 1: hundred twenty yard game, which he's very careful pitt up
41:32
Speaker 1: against anybody. He's one of the few guys in the
41:34
Speaker 1: league who you can defend in game plan for and
41:37
Speaker 1: he still beats you. So I don't think it. I
41:41
Speaker 1: don't know these an All Pro player next year because
41:44
Speaker 1: of health and age. But in spurts and in key situations,
41:49
Speaker 1: he sense I think, yeah, how he could they do
41:54
Speaker 1: with their press takes off Derrick Henry Chill. Ye, that
41:57
Speaker 1: opens up a whole side of things that we quite
42:00
Speaker 1: haven't seen yet. And we've seen enough of the Titans
42:02
Speaker 1: already no more. But there would be a school of
42:07
Speaker 1: thought that he may not be the best receiver on
42:10
Speaker 1: the team next year. Yeah, because a J. Brown is
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Speaker 1: really good and really consistent, and historically for their career,
42:17
Speaker 1: Julio Jones obviously the better player right now. A J.
42:21
Speaker 1: Brown might be as good or better right now. So
42:24
Speaker 1: in terms of being a you know, a J. Brown
42:26
Speaker 1: played through a lot last year, still played at a
42:29
Speaker 1: high level. Uh So, yeah, who do you put on?
42:33
Speaker 1: Julio Shack? Shack two guys. O'Neill's that big, uh Jack
42:44
Speaker 1: and Shade another guy? You have to Yeah, I mean
42:47
Speaker 1: the ideas. I don't like the idea of leaving a
42:49
Speaker 1: J one on one either, so that nothing's ideal for sure.
42:53
Speaker 1: I know it's June, but hey, we're gonna start thinking.
42:57
Speaker 1: It just shows you the development. C. J. Henderson's a
42:59
Speaker 1: huge shore for the team because he's supposed to be.
43:03
Speaker 1: Remember number nine overall pick in the draft, we can
43:07
Speaker 1: say we went about Shakil Griffin. Even with Shaquill Griffin
43:10
Speaker 1: on paper supposed to be. C J is supposed to
43:13
Speaker 1: be your number one lockdown guy. That's only four picks
43:15
Speaker 1: behind Jalen Ramsey. According to a draft equity and potential
43:20
Speaker 1: he is supposed to be locked down all pro guy.
43:23
Speaker 1: You know you take corners twenty three to be starters,
43:28
Speaker 1: you take them number nine to be you are the man.
43:31
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's there yet. He was
43:33
Speaker 1: there in a Week one last year, but this team
43:37
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