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- 0:00Welcome to the Happiness in Retirement podcast, where
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- 0:12tips, and expert insights to help you build a fulfilling and
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- 0:25back, relax, and let's make your golden years the
- 0:43Welcome to the Happiness and Retirement Program podcast.
- 0:47I'm your host, Bill Del Sette, certified financial planner,
- 0:51registered life planner, and creator of this podcast and
- 0:55the Happiness and Retirement Program. Thank you for joining
- 0:59me today. Well, last week we
- 1:02talked about retirement and happiness, and
- 1:06we looked at some research by Transamerica and also by
- 1:09a gentleman By the name of Mo Wang at the University of
- 1:13Florida, in which he found that only 5% of retirees experience
- 1:17a significant increase in happiness in retirement. Upon
- 1:21retiring, I should say, while another 20 to 25% actually
- 1:25may see a decrease in happiness and
- 1:28well-being. particularly if they leave a job that
- 1:32provided them with meaning and identity. Today
- 1:36we're going to talk about two related concepts. The
- 1:39first is called the U-bend of happiness. No, the U-bend
- 1:43is not a plumbing problem, I promise. has
- 1:46nothing to do with your sink and everything to do with your well-being, especially
- 1:50as you age. And then secondly, we're going to take a look at something
- 1:53called the retirement income smile, which if you are a
- 1:57client of Dell SETI, you may be familiar with. So let's start
- 2:00with this idea of the U-bend of happiness. What
- 2:04exactly is it? Well, it's a surprising pattern researchers have
- 2:07discovered when tracking people's life satisfaction over
- 2:11time. A lot of that going on now, psychology of happiness. The
- 2:15basic idea is this, happiness tends to follow a
- 2:18U-shaped curve throughout our lives. That means we're
- 2:21generally happiest in our youth and
- 2:25old age, and least happy, you ready for this? Midlife
- 2:28crisis in midlife. Usually somewhere around our 40s
- 2:31and early 50s, in fact, is where our happiness tends
- 2:35to bottom out, where we are the least happiest. Weird,
- 2:39right? But let's break it down. Economists and psychologists started
- 2:43noticing this trend when they looked at massive data sets from around the
- 2:46world that I'm talking about. Hundreds of thousands of people across
- 2:50countries, the United States, Europe, Latin America, Asia, it
- 2:53doesn't matter where people are from, the curve showed up
- 2:56again and again and again. People in their 20s and early 30s
- 3:00reported relatively high levels of life satisfaction, but
- 3:03then things took a dip. By middle age, there
- 3:06it is again, that midlife Many reported feeling unfulfilled, stressed,
- 3:11and stuck. And then, somewhat surprisingly, happiness
- 3:15levels began to rise again. People in their 60s
- 3:18and 70s, even in their 80s, often reported feeling more content, less
- 3:22anxious, and more at peace with their lives. Now, I know I
- 3:26certainly do. No doubt about it. My midlife, I definitely
- 3:29had a midlife. crisis i'm not afraid to say economist
- 3:33david blanch flower and journalist jonathan rauch is
- 3:36his name they're the two often associated with popularizing the
- 3:40idea. Roach even wrote a book called the
- 3:43happiness curve which i highly recommend checking out
- 3:47if you want to do a deep dive on the subject of
- 3:50the you kind of happiness okay so why does happiness take
- 3:53a dive in midlife. Well, there are a few theories. One
- 3:57is that in our 20s and 30s, we're full of energy, ambition, optimism,
- 4:01you know, all that stuff. We've got big dreams and high expectations.
- 4:05But as we hit middle age, what happens to a lot
- 4:09of us, reality sets in. Maybe
- 4:12the dream career didn't pan out. Maybe the daily grind of
- 4:15bills, work stress, and raising kids starts to wear on
- 4:19us. Let's not forget the biological and psychological
- 4:23factors. Midlife is often a time of self-reflection, sometimes
- 4:27even regret. We look back and wonder, is this it? It's
- 4:30that classic midlife crisis, except now it turns out it's not
- 4:33just a cliche. There's actually data. behind
- 4:37it, so it wasn't just me or you or anyone else. This is,
- 4:40again, across countries, this phenomenon of
- 4:45the midlife crisis, if you will, or the U-bend of happiness. So
- 4:49here's some good news. Things get better according to
- 4:52the research. In fact, as people age, they tend to become more accepting,
- 4:56less focused on material things, and more appreciative of
- 5:00relationships and small pleasures. It's the zen of
- 5:04getting older. There's even evidence that our brains change. In fact,
- 5:07older adults tend to pay more attention to positive experiences and
- 5:11are better at regulating emotions. Basically, they've
- 5:14learned what really matters. And I certainly, again, I can attest to
- 5:18this. I'm in my late fifties, but I can tell you, man,
- 5:21it's the little things. And I think it, for me, it always
- 5:24kind of was in one respect, because I didn't grow up
- 5:27with a lot of money. But I can tell you now, I certainly appreciate the
- 5:31little things more. Simple things like a walk, walking a dog,
- 5:35walking with my significant other, just
- 5:38reading, relaxing, quiet time. Plus, by
- 5:41the time we reach our later years, a lot of the pressures that weighed us down in
- 5:45midlife, work, kids, status, begin to ease. That
- 5:48frees up space for gratitude, reflection, and yes, happiness,
- 5:52especially if you're financially independent. Isn't that something that
- 5:56gives people a sense of life satisfaction to know they're not
- 6:00stuck on the treadmill if they don't want to be. So if you're in
- 6:03your 40s or 50s and wondering why you feel stuck, discouraged, restless,
- 6:07you're not broken, you're human, it's part of the plan,
- 6:11and you're not alone. The UBEN suggests that this slump is not
- 6:14permanent, it's part of a broader life arc. And knowing that
- 6:18things tend to improve can be a huge relief. That said, the curve isn't
- 6:21fate. You can take action steps to boost your well-being at
- 6:25any age. It's the usual suspects, folks. Building strong
- 6:28relationships, so important to happiness. Staying curious,
- 6:32really important. Exercise, moving your body, getting
- 6:36enough sleep. Finding purpose and meaning in
- 6:39your everyday life, so, so important as we talked about
- 6:43in the last podcast. as well. All are scientifically backed
- 6:46ways to lift your happiness no matter where you are on the curve. So
- 6:50next time you're feeling down, just remember, happiness is not a
- 6:53straight line. It's a curve. And if you're in the dip right
- 6:56now, there's a good chance the best is yet to to come. Okay,
- 7:01the U-bend of happiness. Next, let's talk about the retirement income smile.
- 7:05And this concept might just change the way you think about your golden
- 7:08years. If you've ever wondered how your spending might evolve after you
- 7:11stop working, or if you are in retirement, you may be experiencing this
- 7:15now. So let's get into it. So when I started my career,
- 7:19we thought people spent the same amount in retirement as
- 7:22they age. You started a certain level of
- 7:25spending and every year you spend that same amount
- 7:29and you give yourself a little raise for inflation every year. So you maintain
- 7:32your purchasing power, but that does not happen at all.
- 7:35In fact, in my career, it never happened. In
- 7:38other words, I never gave people a raise for inflation at
- 7:42the start of every year. No, never happened. In fact, people would
- 7:46request more money as they needed it, generally for one-time expenses.
- 7:50So retirement spending isn't that simple. You do
- 7:53gradually, though, spend less. This is interesting. But
- 7:57then, even more interesting, spending actually goes up
- 8:00again. So you start at a higher level of spending, gradually it
- 8:04decreases, and then it goes back up. First of all,
- 8:07it makes sense at first glance. You're not commuting, buying
- 8:10work clothes, or eating lunch out every day, but real life data
- 8:14tells this more interesting story because while you're
- 8:17not doing that, you're spending more money on discretionary things. So
- 8:21that's the idea of the retirement income smile, a concept coined by
- 8:24financial planner David Blanchett, who also coined the
- 8:28phrase go-go, slow-go, and no-go years
- 8:32of retirement. that's based on research that shows how retiree
- 8:35spending doesn't just decline smoothly, it actually follows
- 8:39a curve and just like a smile, it dips in the middle and rises again
- 8:43toward the end. So let's walk through this, okay? Shall we?
- 8:46Picture your retirement as having three distinct phases. First,
- 8:50the go-go years. Next, the slow-go years. And finally, the
- 8:54no-go years. So in the go-go years, the early part
- 8:57of retirement, again, it depends on when you retire, But it
- 9:00usually starts in your 60s, maybe your early 70s, you're still
- 9:04healthy, you're active, you're independent, traveling, dining
- 9:07out, maybe even spoiling those grandkids a bit. In
- 9:11short, you're spending money to enjoy your new freedom. Now, how long do
- 9:14the go-go years last? It's different for everyone. If
- 9:18you're really healthy, they could last a good long time. But then comes,
- 9:21inevitably for everyone, the slow-go years when you start to
- 9:24slow down. Maybe you're still active, but not hopping on
- 9:28planes as often or hitting every restaurant in town. Spending starts
- 9:32to decrease, mostly because lifestyle slows down,
- 9:35not because of income constraints, not at all. And
- 9:39then finally, the no-go years. In your late 70s, 80s and
- 9:42beyond, mobility and health may become more limited. Travel
- 9:45and entertainment spending drops off, but, and here's the
- 9:48catch, healthcare spending typically goes up. This increase
- 9:52can offset the savings from lower discretionary spending, hence
- 9:56the smile. High spending early on, a dip in the middle, and
- 9:59then rising again at the end, mostly due to medical costs and
- 10:02long-term care needs. So why does this matter? Well,
- 10:06it certainly challenges the old idea that your retirement income needs are
- 10:10flat. If you assume you'll spend the same every year, in fact,
- 10:13you could be over-saving and missing out on joy in your early retirement. On
- 10:17the flip side, if you don't prepare for those late-life healthcare costs, you could
- 10:20come up short when you need it most. That's where long-term care
- 10:24planning comes in, folks. Understanding a smile helps
- 10:27you build a more realistic retirement plan. Why? Well, can
- 10:31help you structure your income to align with your expected spending needs.
- 10:35Maybe drawing more early on than adjusting in the mid retirement
- 10:39years and reserving funds for late life care.
- 10:43It also makes sense, by the way, to use tools like
- 10:46long-term care insurance or health savings accounts, which can help
- 10:49cover that late life spending bump. Also very
- 10:53important to do asset protection planning, a big part of
- 10:57financial and retirement planning, maybe the biggest asset
- 11:00protection planning. Here are a few practical things you can do
- 11:03today with a retirement income smile in mind. First, segment your
- 11:07retirement budget by phase. Sit down with your spouse, break
- 11:11down the early, middle, and late retirement years,
- 11:14and ask yourself what you'll likely spend at each stage,
- 11:18travel, hobbies, healthcare, and so on. Build some flexibility into
- 11:22this, okay? Don't assume a flat withdrawal from
- 11:26your portfolio. Instead, plan for more
- 11:29discretionary spending early on and rising fixed costs
- 11:33later. Next, consider your health. If you are
- 11:36one of those folks who will most likely have a long health
- 11:40span, meaning you will be healthy, you will have more go-go years
- 11:43in your retirement because you've been more active, because of genes, genetically,
- 11:48you got the golden ticket, so to speak, then maybe you're
- 11:51going to have more go-go years. There's some great longevity calculators
- 11:55on the internet that can help with this. One is called Living to 100. If
- 12:00you just Google Living to 100 age of mortality calculator
- 12:03or longevity calculator, my favorite is from
- 12:07Project Big Life. Google Project Big Life
- 12:11mortality calculator. And then Plug in your specific information,
- 12:15kind of a cool exercise, and it takes a few minutes, but
- 12:18certainly much more accurate than just guessing that you're gonna
- 12:22live to the average age of mortality. As I like to
- 12:25say, a man with his head in the oven and his feet in the freezer may
- 12:28have an average temperature, but he doesn't feel very well. Averages
- 12:32can be very deceiving. 50% of people are gonna live longer
- 12:36than the average. Hopefully you're in that camp,
- 12:40with good health, by the way, and 50% are not going to live as
- 12:44long. Some food for thought. Next, review your portfolio.
- 12:48Are you positioned to draw more early on and still have security later
- 12:51in life? Are you using income generating assets like
- 12:54stock dividends effectively? Now, this is where the income guardrail
- 12:58approach comes in handy that we use at Dell City Capital.
- 13:02The tool that we use actually, we can front load spending in
- 13:06the early years and still
- 13:09hopefully have security later in life. Finally, talk to a
- 13:12planner, folks. Can't emphasize this enough. A good financial advisor can
- 13:16help tailor a strategy that fits the actual shape of your retirement
- 13:20smile, not just a generic model. So there you have
- 13:23it. The U-bend of happiness and the retirement income smile.
- 13:27Simple concepts with big implications. If
- 13:30you're middle-aged, hang in there. It gets better. And if you're in
- 13:34retirement, front load that spending in a methodical way.
- 13:37Don't willy nilly it. Retirement isn't one flat road, it's a
- 13:40journey with peaks and valleys. By planning for the real pattern of
- 13:43spending, you can live fully in the early years and still protect yourself
- 13:47later on. Thanks for listening, folks, to the Happiness in Retirement Program
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- 14:14Del Sette, reminding you that the road to retirement should
- 14:17be an adventure, not a survival strategy. Talk to
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