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travis kelce's true WAG: ross travis · gasp! the pod

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I wouldn't be surprised if we like zoomed in on these like
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Italy pictures of Travis and Taylor and like Ross is like in
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the back of the house or like in the window, like being
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sequestered back there and like probably Carly's back there too.
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Hey guys, and welcome back to GASP the pod, the podcast for
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the gays, the girls and especially the gay girls and
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happy belated and happy belated Valentine's Day to only the
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gays. That's not true.
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I'm filming on Valentine's Day right now.
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You are not seeing this on Valentine's Day, but check out
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my Valentine's Day nails. So cute.
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My girlfriend is currently on her way to New York right now,
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so I'm filming this in haste. Today is a wonderful day, but I
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do believe that gay couples deserve to celebrate more.
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I think that Straylove is celebrated all the time, so I
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feel like y'all are good and I do feel like this is a gay
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holiday. There's just something about the
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pink. But Speaking of a wonderful gay
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couple that's celebrating Valentine's Day today, Travis
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Kelsey and Ross. Travis, this is a topic that I
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was debating covering. I've got to be honest, the
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reason why is because until the Super Bowl, I wasn't sure if
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Travis and Ross were like, kind of secretly gay or like, full on
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closeted for like, safety, right?
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And yeah, I just wasn't sure, especially because like, Ross,
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like, wasn't really in the public eye and I just didn't
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want to throw him into this mess.
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But over and over again, he put himself in it.
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And they are now claiming this publicly, at least throwing jest
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at the rumors that they're a cute little couple.
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So listen, I think they're together.
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And if not, they're fine. But so to anyone that's going to
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say you're outing them. Ross would not have posted a
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story of a gold rose if he didn't think people were going
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to catch on to this. Therefore, I'm making a podcast
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episode on it before this happened when they were just
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like spotted together in hotel rooms.
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Like I'm not going to not call that gay, but I didn't feel like
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that warranted a deep dive into their relationship.
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I do believe we're at that place now, and I think it's because my
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theory is Travis Kelsey because there's 2 Travis's in these
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situations. Ross Travis, friend Travis
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Kelsey, boyfriend of Taylor Swift.
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I do think that Travis is going to come out once he leaves the
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NFL, which may be this season. I know you keep hearing me say
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that about Taylor Swift coming out and Travis Kelce coming out.
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It's fun to hope and dream. So that's all I'm going to say
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about that. So that's the topic we're going
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to do. We're going to do a deep dive in
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their relationship. We're going to talk about the
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NFL. We're going to talk about other
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gay NFL players. Actually, there's just like one.
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Yeah. But before that happens,
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obviously, we have to talk about some things.
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Oh, also sorry, last thing and then I will finally get into
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this topic. The bonus episode on the
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Patreon. I'm going to do this recurring
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type of episode for these bonus episodes on Patreon.
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It's going to be called Drum roll.
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Someone do drum roll on the rumor mill and on the rumor
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We are going to cover Sabrina Carpenter PR relationship with
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Barry Keegan. We're going to cover Jennifer
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Aniston and Barack Obama. Some of these topics, who knows
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if I'll get back to them later, but this episode never will be
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posted anywhere else. Now the housekeeping is over
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with. Let's get into this topic.
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We're going to be talking about the Super Bowl, of course, and
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the gold Rosegate that I'm naming gold Rosegate, the
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timeline of what we know of their relationship, obviously
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Travis Kelsey and Ross Travis. Travis Kelsey needing a beard,
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why he would need a beard, Gay NFL players, how the NFL forces
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players to be closeted and Travis Kelsey's family and
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seemingly them acknowledging the fact that Travis Kelce is a gay
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man. Let's talk about the Super Bowl
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and gold Rose Gate first. At this point, this is like Kiss
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Gate in terms of iconic. And I was watching the Super
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Bowl with my cousin, kind of expecting nothing to come from
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the Super Bowl this year. Like, I mean, yeah, pretty much
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nothing. I was like, the Chiefs are going
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to win. Taylor Swift's not going to play
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at the halftime show, so what's the fucking point?
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The Chiefs did not win, thank God.
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But an unexpected Easter egg from Ross Travis and Travis
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Kelsey, as you guys have probably seen from this video I
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made of it that was later banned and then restored.
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It was originally banned for gender harassment.
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It's so crazy how like they're twisting the things that
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happened to us as a queer community and then blaming queer
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people for just saying gay things as if were the problem
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and not homophobes. But anyways, that's a
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conversation for a later day. So Travis Kelsey showed up to
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the Super Bowl and I honestly am shocked by the amount of people
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like, not haters. Shockingly, usually I get a lot
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of hate when I say that someone could be gay.
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It ruins people. It ruins like, fans, little
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hearts, straight fans, little straight hearts.
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But the reactions were like very surprising and positive.
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Like so many people were like, oh, I've seen Gaylord theories.
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But this convinced me. I'm going to have to do a deeper
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look. Are there people being like, oh,
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I could totally see that. Someone's like this explains
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everything. And I'm like, thank you.
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Because it's so important to remember, even if you're not
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like I'm sure all of you are, or else you wouldn't be watching
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this podcast. If you're not like really in
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this type of subculture, I would call it.
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It's important to remember that celebrities could be gay.
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And like, you don't have to be a part of, like, the whole culture
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around, like, queer pop culture to just, you know, imagine that
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someone could be gay, period. And Travis Kelsey and Taylor
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Swift kind of have the same situation where, like, they
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don't look gay to a straight person's eye.
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So that's why I think people get really confused about the
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conversation, too. So I was pleasantly surprised at
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the conversation on the TikTok. So yeah, this is what happened.
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Travis Kelsey showed up in this, like, 70s suit.
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Hot take. Are you ready?
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I kind of liked the suit. I didn't hate the suit.
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I thought it was very 70s and cool.
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I'm so sorry if he's a gay man wearing it, If he's a straight
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man wearing it, I hate it. And that's OK to say.
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But he showed up in this like, kind of like burnt orange 70s.
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Some people called it a pimp suit and he was wearing this
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gold brooch. It was a gold rose brooch.
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Thought nothing of it. OK, not until I was getting all
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these comments while watching the Super Bowl being like,
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please go check out Ross Travis's Instagram story.
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I ran there Ross Travis watching the Super Bowl and usually, you
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know, he's always at these games.
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He in his Instagram story, the one Instagram story he posted of
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the entire night of the Super Bowl, is just him sitting and on
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his lap is a gold rose. And it's not like a painted real
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rose. It's almost like this, like made
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it looks like fabric or like metal.
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It's kind of confusing what it looks like, but it's not a real
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rose. That is something that was
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crafted or bought with like intentionality.
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I didn't see anyone else having this rose.
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No other Chiefs players like family members or friends were
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holding roses. So what's going on with that?
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Obviously, we view it to mean that they're signalling to us
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that they share this special connection.
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And I do think it's this attempt to like, let the public in on
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this secret, this open secret. I feel like this is the first
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time that they're like Easter egging us a little bit and
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giving us this type of symbolism together.
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And then later, there's literally a picture of Ross
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Travis stuffing it in his pants. Moving on, what does a gold rose
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mean besides the fact that they're both having one or like
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wearing one at the same game? Besides just that connection,
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which is inherently queer? No friends are like, hey bro,
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you should wear a gold rose and I'll hold a gold rose and it'll
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show our friendship. What is?
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What could that mean, right, besides gay?
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Well, on top of that and how gay that is, gold rose actually
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symbolizes love and gay pride within the gay community,
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specifically with gay men. There's a historical association
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of Japanese gay men and roses. And actually the Japanese word
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for rose is Barra, which is has been reclaimed by the LGBTQ
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community. Hopefully I can say that, but
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it's I'm unsure if it used to be just a derogatory word or like a
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slur. The gold emphasizes the beauty
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of the Rose symbol and this meaning, and it also signifies a
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love that stands the test of time.
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So it turns out there's a very gay meaning for them having
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these gold roses together. And I do think it means
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something. The fact that this is perhaps or
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this was perhaps Travis Kelce's final game in the NFL, a lot of
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people are saying his contract might not be resigned.
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And also he's just like old for someone in the league.
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I think he's 35. Maybe Travis and Taylor can
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finally be their true selves. And then amidst all of this
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happening at the game with Ross and Travis, Taylor was
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continually portraying her music videos in the outfit she was
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wearing. Jordan initially pointed this
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out but she had the Haim sisters and I spies there.
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Which does feel specific because this entire year she didn't
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really like have them at games. Unless I miss something, it does
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feel like with Ice Spice she's trying to show like OK Karma.
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With Heim she's trying to show Bejeweled.
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And as we all know, at the end of the Bejeweled music video,
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Taylor Swift ghosts the Prince. So is this her being like, I'm
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ghosting Travis? Because then again, she left
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without him and he left without her.
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It's just weird. Like, you would think that they
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would have wanted some like, picture of Taylor, like
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comforting him as they walked out of the stadium.
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Like, we had that picture before.
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And even people that don't believe in Gaylord right now are
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being like, I don't know, I see a breakup coming and it's like,
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listen, if they were in a real relationship, why would they
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have broken up because he lost the Super Bowl?
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That's actually really sad on either way.
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Like he if he broke up with her just because he was sad about
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losing the Super Bowl, that's embarrassing.
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And if she broke up with him because he lost the Super Bowl,
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that's just mean. So, like, if they were breaking
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up because of the Super Bowl and they were a straight couple,
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that's a worse take, I think, than them just being in a PR
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relationship. And this just, like, shows the,
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like, there's no need for it anymore because he's done with
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the NFL and he doesn't need to be closeted if he's out of the
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NFL. Yeah.
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I just feel like her bringing Ice Spice really, like, showed
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karma. And I also think, like, being
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like, karma's going to come to all of you people.
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I didn't want to befriend you MAGA people, but I fucking had
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to. And I'm praying that's the
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reason that she hangs out with all these MAGA people and not on
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her own will. I'm going to pray and hope that
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that's the case because I don't think I'm letting my brain get
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to the fact that she would just, like, hang out with, like, MAGA
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supporters for fun. I'm hoping this was, like, a
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contractually obligated situation.
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Yeah. And then the final thing, I felt
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like the blazer that she was wearing, the Super Bowl, really
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was like, the man a man reference.
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And her being like, I don't need a man.
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I am the man. I don't need a rich man.
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I made a TikTok about this. She's Easter egging about her
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own work at her boyfriend's game, which shows me that this
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is work, too. And then this is performance
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Artler, as we've known. And as we I've stated before, I
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just really feel like the only way I would forgive Travis for
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like, his Trump comments about Trump being at the Super Bowl
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would be if he was gay. Because then that would make
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sense for like safety if he's just trying to blend in with all
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the other people and being like, Yep, I'm honored.
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I want to get into the Tross timeline.
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The couple name for Travis, Kelsey and Ross Travis is Tross.
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I'm sure I'm missing little instances.
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But again, like, there's not a lot of people on the Internet
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that are doing this that are talking about this.
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So we can fill in the blanks. This is, you know, the bare
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minimum. This is like writing the Swift
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Kron timeline from scratch. Y'all.
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OK, imagine it's 2012. This is what we're doing right
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now. Like we are in it.
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OK? So we're going to try our best
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and try to figure out what their timeline may have been in this
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alleged relationship. Gays will never be the
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allegations that they go after their own twin.
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First of all, Travis and Ross kind of look alike.
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Maybe it's just the footballer look.
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They were both tight ends. That's just ironic and funny.
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And then they have the same name.
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Like if Travis takes Ross Travis's last name, he will be
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Travis Travis. It's so giving Kaler.
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And it's like, like, I lost my twin.
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Not a twin from your dreams. It's so gay.
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So when I looked this up initially, Yahoo Entertainment
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says quote Travis, Kelsey's close friend and NFL free agent
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Ross. Travis has become the subject of
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considerable curiosity amongst fans who wish to learn more
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about his friendship with the Kansas City Chiefs tight end.
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This curiosity has been brewing for two months, ever since
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Travis was spotted attending Kelsey's pop star girlfriend
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Taylor Swift's heirs to her show in Miami.
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It's just so funny because, like, the only reason people are
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asking about Ross Travis specifically, not any of his
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other friends, is because he's hanging out with him all the
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time. And it's like his plus one to
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everything. So we're going to have to use
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our best judgement to try to figure out how this could have
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all come about, right? Like, what is the timeline with
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all the beards? What do we think?
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This is going to be my best guess.
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So 2013 Travis Kelsey is drafted by the Chiefs, right?
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In 2015 Ross Travis joins the Chiefs as a free agent which
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means he was like undrafted I think.
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I don't know. Ross and Travis then become
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quote good friends. They also both played as tight
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ends as we know. And then Ross is released but
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then resigned apparently. Regardless, they become best
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buds 2015 and 2017. Is this interesting part of the
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timeline? OK.
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This is when they become like, yeah, like, really good friends.
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So they're spotted hanging out at, like, multiple events like
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this 2017 celebration of the Chiefs AFC West title.
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And also, this is not always when Ross Travis is actually
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playing for the Chiefs. Sometimes he's just, like,
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accompanying Travis. It's not because he's like on
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the team, you know, because Ross Travis in 2017 was dropped from
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the Chiefs, but they remained. I I guess they kept like a
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quote, strong friendship. They're spotted at all these
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events. But wait, 2016 is when catching
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Kelsey premieres? I've never watched it.
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I do think at some point I'm going to have to bear it and do
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it. I like, can't imagine that
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Taylor Swift would ever really date someone who for real did a
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reality show just centered around them for one season and
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had all these girls, like pretty much auditioned to be his beard.
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And wait, is that how we met Kayla, Nicole.
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OK, no, thank God. That would have been almost too
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obvious if they met on the show. Anyways, 2016, he does this show
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catching Kelsey and yeah, it's just interesting that he's like,
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wow, I feel like I really need a girlfriend after becoming really
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good friends with this tight end that also looks very gay and I
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look very gay. So he does this show to bring
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attention to the fact that he's straight guys.
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So 2017 comes along, he starts dating Kayla Nicole and it's
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perfect because he can bring her along to these events with Ross
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Travis. So it doesn't look like he's
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just going with Ross Travis. And there's so many pictures of
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like him and events with Kayla and Ross together.
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It's literally now like with Taylor and Ross, like he just
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needs someone else to be there like a third wheel.
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So it doesn't look like just him and this like boyfriend going
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everywhere together. Literally I'm going to show up a
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picture right now. It's like 2017 fashion show
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supporting Operation Breakthrough Caitlin Nicole's
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there and Donna Kelsey and Travis Kelsey is wearing this
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fuck ass hat and this suit that just is so gay.
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And I know it's 2017, but even for 2017 it's not OK.
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Like I said, 2017 Ross Travis has dropped by the chiefs, but
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they maintain a strong friendship and Travis Kelsey
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dates Caitlin Nicole until 2022. Apparently they're like on and
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off for a while. I think Beard, yes, there's a
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possibility he's. I never want to jump to gay
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people. Could be by I'm by whatever.
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As someone who's bisexual, I feel like you can really tell
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bisexual vibes. And I don't think he's bisexual,
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that's just my opinion. So he's didn't kill Nicole until
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2022? Ross Travis apparently is dating
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this girl in 2021. There's only like 1 picture of
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them together. Her name is Britt Manuela, and I
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don't know, maybe he needed a beer, too.
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He was like, oh, you're going to get a beard.
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I'll get one too. What does it sound like?
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I'm going to get you back with Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss,
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2023. We're getting into Taylor
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Swift's era, right? Travis Kelsey is invited to a
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visit on Jimmy Fallon. And Ross Travis goes with him,
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accompanies him to this show. Like other celebrities don't
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bring like, a best friend unless they're like, their manager.
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Like, why is he bringing his best friend to all of these
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events? And if I was Travis and this
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weren't my boyfriend, I would be like, OK, you kind of need to
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have your own life because my life can't be your life.
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I mean, like, maybe not. Maybe they just, like, love
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hanging out. But it just feels suspicious at
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this point. And it's like, what is going on
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right now? The fact that, like, mainstream
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media has not caught on to this is really wild because it's not
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like, yeah, it's like, secret. But again, it's kind of like
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these secret women of Hollywood. It's like this open secret.
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They're not trying that hard. They're like, yeah, I'll have a
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girl with me, too. But like, this is like, my guy.
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So later in 2023, in the summer, as we know, Travis and Taylor
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started dating. It was time for Travis to have
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another relationship. Maybe rumors started coming up
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again about his sexuality around the time that Kim and Kayla
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stopped dating. But as we know, like, he can't
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just not have a relationship for like the last three years of his
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career. He was probably worried things
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are going to start coming up, even if rumors didn't happen.
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You know, like you want to just like maintain this St. persona.
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And of course, it does not hurt the fact that he needs a career
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after football. Taylor needs a beard.
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There's so many reasons why they would both need beards.
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If you're looking for an in depth episode on that, go to the
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first season of this podcast. I think it's like episode 2 and
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it's like Travis Taylor PR question mark, question mark.
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That's the episode. Go watch or stream or listen to
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that after this if you haven't already.
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But again, it's like beyond even being beards for each other, for
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Travis, it opens up like his audience, like now he's doing
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this TV show, grotesque. He's doing this reality TV show.
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You know what I mean? Like the family benefits.
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It gives him a career outside of football.
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And he was already kind of getting into that, but not at
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the extent. Now.
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I also have this other theory I came up with when I was high
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during the Super Bowl. The NFL is trying to expand into
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global audiences, trying to create leagues in other
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countries around Europe. What if Travis is going to be
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the, like, face of the International League now?
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I'm sure what you're saying right now is like, he's
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American. That wouldn't make sense.
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Yeah, of course it wouldn't make sense.
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But he's been exposed to so many international audiences because
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of Taylor Swift and her worldwide fan base.
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That could make sense to me, but I think it's probably just
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because of his. Like, he wants to get into
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Hollywood. Taylor, of course, wants to
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reach the peak of fame before she comes out.
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She wants to have her final Miss America in a moment.
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She needs a beard. Round out the errors to her on a
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straight note. You guys get it?
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OK so I do think the contract was always going to be around 2
24:05
years. I think Travis probably knew he
24:07
was about to have only two years left of his career.
24:10
Taylor Swift was like that's perfect because the Errors tour
24:13
is like a year or so left when they started dating.
24:16
So it's like literally ideal for them.
24:18
That's the PR reasons. 2023 Travis and Taylor start dating.
24:22
Ross is literally always in Travis's box when he plays along
24:26
with Taylor every single time. He's at every Travis event and
24:31
he often parties with Taylor Swift as well, along with
24:34
Travis. Kelsey.
24:35
If you ever see Travis and Taylor together, Ross is like
24:38
hiding there in the background. I feel bad for the guy. 2023 to
24:41
2024, this is like peak Arrows tour and Australia and the
24:47
Europe tour where we really saw Ross and Travis shine as a
24:51
couple. So in February 2024, Kelsey and
24:55
Travis, so Travis Kelsey and Ross Travis, I know it's
24:58
confusing, they travelled to Australia together to attend the
25:03
Taylor Swift areas to her. This is when I do think us as a
25:07
community started to really be like why is Ross Travis on this
25:12
special romantic trip with Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift?
25:16
Like do not give me this bullshit of like OK, she has to
25:19
train. Like who is he going to spend
25:22
time with? Himself.
25:25
Himself. Oh my God.
25:26
If my girlfriend was a superstar and she went to Australia, I
25:31
would just go by myself. I could hang out with her
25:34
family, I could hang out with her crew, I could spend some
25:36
time by myself when she's prepping.
25:38
Like I don't need a best friend to support me.
25:41
Yeah, that would be fun sometimes, but the fact that
25:43
it's been so many shows is weird.
25:45
It just doesn't make sense why he needs to bring a friend every
25:48
time he sees his girlfriend. OK, so this is when the rumour
25:53
that they stayed in the same hotel started to circulate.
25:57
I still don't think we have like proof either way.
25:59
We probably will never. These penthouse paparazzi
26:03
pictures of Travis Kelsey and Ross Travis in this like glass
26:09
like penthouse in Australia were leaked.
26:12
And I was like, OK, so they're staying together.
26:16
If you tell me right now. Oh, no, I think that Ross and
26:19
Travis were just in Taylor Swift's suite.
26:22
You're telling me Taylor Swift, who is training, is like, oh,
26:25
yeah, just bring your friend into my room?
26:30
Fuck. No, no, this was absolutely
26:34
where Travis and Ross were staying together.
26:37
That was crazy. Then the same time that they
26:41
were on the same trip that they were in Australia, they
26:44
seemingly held hands walking out of the door of the show.
26:48
I'll also pull the pick up right now.
26:50
I don't really know about that one.
26:51
I don't think that they would actually hold hands in public
26:53
because I don't think that they're that dumb.
26:56
Maybe they kind of like forgot and like kind of leaned into
26:59
each other with their pinkies. I don't know.
27:02
Either way, it's cute. But Australia was extremely gay
27:06
for them. And after this, I did notice
27:09
that Ross pulled back a little bit.
27:11
So after this happened, rumors started circling.
27:14
They were dating spread by all of us.
27:18
I mean, looks dating. I call it dating.
27:21
Ross pulls back kind of from public appearances, a little bit
27:25
like the next season of football.
27:27
He wasn't as like front and center in like the viewing boxes
27:32
as Taylor was, but obviously was still present at every single
27:36
game. And then also during the Europe
27:38
heiress tour, we saw all these paparazzi pictures with Taylor
27:41
and Travis, like doing this like PR stunt of them, like sitting
27:45
like awkwardly in front of this house that they could have sat
27:49
behind the house and not have paparazzi, remember?
27:52
But anyways, Roz and Travis were riding bikes on a little date
27:55
when they were like visiting during her European Tour day,
27:59
but they're literally spotted like riding around on like
28:02
bikes. Like, he's with him again.
28:05
What it's like, come on, you guys.
28:08
Travis can't go alone to visit his girlfriend on a European
28:12
getaway. I wouldn't be surprised if we,
28:14
like, zoomed in on these, like, Italy pictures of Travis and
28:19
Taylor and like, Ross is like in the back of the house or like in
28:22
the window, like being sequestered back there.
28:26
And like, probably Carly's back there, too.
28:28
Also after Patrick Mahomes made that slip up.
28:31
Let's talk about that very quickly.
28:33
Patrick Mahomes in that interview, I think like a week
28:36
before the Super Bowl, was talking about Taylor Swift and
28:38
said, oh, I've built such a great friendship with her and
28:42
her wife. Remember that?
28:45
Crazy. It also doesn't even make any
28:46
sense. If he was talking about her and
28:49
my wife, they would have already built a great friendship since
28:52
they've been dating since high school.
28:54
So doesn't make sense either way.
28:56
But everyone's like, who would her wife be?
28:58
Who would her wife be guys? Karlie Kloss.
29:03
I think that's my immediate answer if you were to ask me who
29:08
else I thought could be her wife.
29:10
Zoe Kravitz. She has not been pictured for a
29:13
while. Suspicious.
29:15
Like is that intentional? Also went through a breakup with
29:18
Channing Tatum. So to Ashley Avignon, it's
29:23
either someone who like we never see or someone we always see,
29:27
like Ross. Travis is for Travis, you know,
29:30
wouldn't be surprised it was Ashley Avignon.
29:32
She has like no social media presence.
29:34
She looks like Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift loves that and a
29:37
girl. She's just always around.
29:39
I think she's her professional wife.
29:42
Who knows? But honestly, realistically, I
29:44
think Carly, I mean, not realistically, I guess in my
29:47
heart of hearts. OK, so we're almost done with
29:49
this timeline. OK, Still 2024 quote from Yahoo
29:53
News. When Kelsey was preoccupied with
29:55
the Chiefs game against the San Francisco 49ers, Travis attended
29:59
Swift's ERA tour concert in Miami.
30:03
That means that Ross Travis went to the Miami show when Travis
30:07
couldn't. Now, a lot of people were like,
30:08
Oh my God, supportive friend just doesn't make any sense.
30:12
I mean, yeah, he can go to whatever show he wants.
30:15
Well, here's what I think. These rumors started going out
30:17
about him and Travis dating. I think he was like, we need I
30:23
need to go to the show and just show that I like the show just
30:26
for it and not because I'm with Travis.
30:29
Didn't hurt that after this happened, these rumors from
30:33
straight Swifties trying to explain away the fact that Ross
30:36
is at all of these shows, they're all saying, Oh my God,
30:41
Ross Travis is dating a dancer with their sewer.
30:45
That's why. Oh, that's why he's always there
30:49
now It makes sense. OK, There's been no confirmation
30:54
of this when you search this. Like I got nothing from it.
30:57
OK, I don't know what to tell you.
30:59
Sorry. Doesn't seem like you're right.
31:01
Also, with all the publicity going around, you really think
31:04
they would have a like a private relationship?
31:07
If he was actually dating an heiress who were dancer?
31:09
Don't you think that she would be like in the Super Bowl box?
31:14
They would be having like double dates?
31:16
Like fucking shit like Taylor Swift would do that in an
31:19
instant. She'd be like, great, more PR.
31:21
It's 'cause it's not happening. OK, December airs, tour wrap
31:26
party or Taylor Swift's birthday party.
31:28
None of us know what it was. It's very confusing to everyone.
31:32
If it was Taylor Swift's birthday party only, like some
31:35
of her friends were there. And don't get me started with
31:37
like, oh, Ashley and some of the Heim sisters were there.
31:41
At this point, they just professionally tour with her.
31:43
OK, that is not of enough of a birthday party.
31:46
If my birth, I had a surprise birthday party and only three of
31:48
my friends were invited and everyone else were like my
31:51
boyfriend's like football players or like what do you call
31:56
like a Co player teammates. Oh my God, I'm so gay.
32:02
I would be so pissed. OK, so birthday party.
32:04
Weird heiress to a wrap party. Barely any of her dancers were
32:08
there. It was all Chiefs players.
32:10
It literally was a wrap party for I think the performance
32:15
artler of the heiress to her. And then of course, Travis Kelce
32:19
invited all his friends. Ross, Travis, and Taylor all
32:22
posed together in this picture. I'll pull it up right now.
32:24
This is picture heavy episode. They're wearing matching pinky
32:28
rings. And of course, Ross is just like
32:31
in every picture that Taylor and Travis are in together because
32:34
duh, bring a pinky ring is queer flagging.
32:38
OK? You cannot tell me it's not.
32:40
This is just a fact about our history.
32:43
There's an article in Vogue that I really like called Why I
32:46
Started Wearing a Signet Pinky Ring as a Queer Woman, and the
32:50
quote is like much of gay history, it was hiding in plain
32:54
sight. I prefer hiding in plain sight,
32:57
dear reader. Folks throughout the 1940s and
33:00
1960s wore pinky rings to denote their sexual orientation.
33:03
If you didn't know that, then you'd miss it.
33:06
Oh my God, I think that quote is fucking amazing and just so
33:10
applies so much to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
33:13
If you didn't know it, you would miss it.
33:14
It it's not obvious, it's communicating to other queer
33:19
people. And we picked up on it.
33:22
So that's kind of like the timeline of their situation and
33:28
what we know now. Obviously then it comes up to
33:31
present day Super Bowl and them doing the whole gold roses
33:35
stuff. There was also the rumor that
33:37
they were living together. I tried to look that up again
33:40
and find any proof for that. I couldn't I And then also there
33:45
was this rumor going around that Ross was helping Travis remodel
33:48
his kitchen and that's why he was living with him.
33:51
I remember posting that on the Internet and there was like
33:54
people being like whose best friend doesn't remodel their
33:56
kitchen? I'm like not a millionaire
33:59
Chiefs player who needs his guy best friend to do this
34:03
construction for him. Like he's living there.
34:06
It just doesn't make any sense. Any excuses for a grown man
34:09
who's a millionaire housing his other best friend is gay.
34:12
I don't care. But the way I see this timeline
34:15
is Travis, Kelsey, Ross, Travis meet, they become friends, OK,
34:21
then they see, then they start dating around like few years
34:26
into their friendship. That's what I think catching
34:28
Kelsey happens. He's like, I need to show that
34:31
I'm straight, make being straight my brand.
34:34
OK, Then bring up Kayla Nicole. She's a professional beard.
34:40
Ross Travis is like, OK, I need a beard too Short little fling
34:44
here. He's less into the beard thing.
34:46
He's like, I'll give it a shot right?
34:49
Then they break up. Travis is at the peak of his
34:51
career. He's like, I've got two years
34:53
left in the season. I need one more final beer to
34:57
really to really go out with a bang.
34:59
Ross is like, do your thing, man.
35:01
You only got two more years left.
35:03
We can make it until then. Taylor Swift happens and now
35:07
they've been dating, I think, for a long time.
35:10
Ross and Travis, it seems like they're very comfortable with
35:13
each other. They have like this routine.
35:15
It seems like they're chill with the situation now, but like, the
35:19
gold roses is just like, so cute and sentimental and really makes
35:23
me feel like they're like, ready to be open and out about it when
35:28
they're allowed to be. If you're watching this and
35:30
you're like, why wouldn't they be allowed to be out?
35:33
We'll go into that right now. But yeah, I just feel like that
35:36
moment was like so striking for all of us and we were like, my
35:41
God, this is so sentimental and sweet.
35:44
It seems like a long time coming the NFL.
35:48
Let's talk about the NFL and why it's so hard to be gay in the
35:52
NFL. OK, The NFL is a conservative,
35:55
homophobic institution, point blank, period.
35:58
If you don't believe me, I have stats.
36:01
There's no room for politics. The entire culture of this
36:05
league, and some argue it is like an entertainment league now
36:09
and not even a sports league. And therefore it is for
36:13
consumption and viewers and a lot of people to watch it and
36:17
not worry about politics. It is adjusted for white men to
36:23
watch and not think about their problems, which they don't have
36:28
or most of them don't. Yeah.
36:31
And that's why no politics should be put into it.
36:34
You just want to be able to watch these players.
36:35
There's also this culture of historically white, very rich
36:41
owners and black players who are living in this country that has
36:47
a lot of historical racial injustice and currently has it
36:50
right now. And you're playing for these
36:52
white owners that make so much money off of you and you can't
36:55
even talk about politics. So that's the culture, right?
36:59
And it does depend on the team you're playing for, how
37:04
conservative that team is, how much you can say and can't say.
37:08
And we'll go in about how the Chiefs are probably one of the
37:12
more conservative teams you could play for.
37:14
Before we go into that, obviously I'm sure you guys are
37:16
all familiar with kneeling gate. Anyone who's international, if
37:20
you haven't heard about this, Colin Kaepernick was this
37:23
player. He started kneeling during the
37:26
national anthem before games, before football games, in
37:32
protest for racial justice. He started this movement.
37:35
A lot of players started doing this.
37:36
Eventually it was fucking banned because that's how much fans
37:40
were so pissed that they were kneeling.
37:43
And kneeling is a sign of respect.
37:45
It's not like you're like spitting on the flag.
37:49
This was all like 2016, right? It's sort of this movement.
37:52
Eventually, it was banned. Now, as a player, if you kneel,
37:56
the entire team gets fined, but you can stay in the locker room
38:01
during the national anthem if you want to.
38:03
Obviously, that dissentivized players from doing it.
38:06
And Colin Kaepernick, he ended up filing a grievance against
38:10
the NFL for keeping him out of the league.
38:12
So he was pretty much like shunned from the NFL after this.
38:16
So that's not a very good breeding ground for like,
38:19
staying true to who you are in the NFL, right?
38:22
Like when you're a player for the NFL, you kind of resign your
38:26
own personal belief system. You have to become like a poster
38:31
child for the NFLUSA Today 2024 did a study and here's the quote
38:36
from them. The analysis showed that
38:39
collectively, NFL owners donations during the current
38:42
election cycle leaned right Of the 24 owners with partisan
38:46
giving, 16 donated primarily or exclusively to Republican
38:51
candidates, political action committees and joint fundraising
38:55
committees. And in total, about 83% of the
38:58
money donated by NFL owners has gone to conservative candidates
39:02
and causes. So even if for some reason your
39:05
fans are more left-leaning or your the NFL, which lately has
39:11
become, has been making these comments being like, oh, we're
39:15
going to try to be more like progressive, whatever.
39:17
Even if that's happening, your owners pretty much decide what's
39:20
going on. OK.
39:22
So if your owners are far right leaning, it doesn't really
39:25
matter what the NFL does also like locker room talk this
39:30
culture of like joking about sexual assault.
39:34
And of course we can't even go into the fact of the CT of NFL
39:38
and the historic domestic abuse of NFL players and how that is
39:42
like shoved under the rug and all this stuff.
39:45
The culture of football and the NFL and like, talking about like
39:50
using homophobic slurs and being like really sexist and talking
39:54
about sexual assault and like all this kind of stuff is just
39:57
horrific. So I cannot imagine being a gay
40:00
man, a closeted gay man in the NFL nightmare.
40:05
It also really reminds me of Colton Underwood from The
40:08
Bachelor. And his experience, again, a
40:11
very good example of someone who's like whole identity was
40:15
like being a football player and being straight.
40:17
He went on ATV show, he went on the Bachelor.
40:21
He was the Bachelor. His whole thing was like
40:24
straight trying to find love with a woman and he was gay.
40:29
It's not impossible, guys. He has the same look of Travis
40:33
Kelce too, kind of bare esque, right?
40:35
And like how he talked about his experiences playing football, it
40:41
really shows like why it was not a safe environment to come out.
40:45
I'm not going to excuse what he I think he like stalked his
40:49
ex-girlfriend. Still wack.
40:51
But alas. It just shows the culture of
40:53
football. Right?
40:55
So then also besides the owners, besides the culture, besides the
40:59
fans, besides the NFL, like players and coaches are
41:05
homophobic. In 2013 a 49ers player Chris
41:09
Culver said he would not accept gay players and also said if
41:12
you're gay you should come out years after playing.
41:15
Seems like a Travis Kelce playbook.
41:17
IN2021A Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden sent homophobic emails.
41:21
I think he ended up quitting or resigning. 2024 as we all know.
41:25
Harrison Butker, motherfucker, he said this whole speech about
41:29
gender roles and religion and just like super backwards
41:34
homophobic, sexist fucking stuff.
41:37
And like the note I have here is it says the note I have here is
41:43
quote goes without saying anything after this happened.
41:46
And again, he's a Chiefs player. When this happens on your own
41:50
team, do you feel safe to come out?
41:52
You feel like you can't even say anything against that because
41:55
the Chiefs owner backed Harrison Butker after this.
41:58
The Chiefs owner congratulated Harrison Butker on having
42:02
Republican pack after this speech.
42:04
This is from Fox News. When you kneel and stand by
42:07
progressive values, it's not OK. It seems like any time someone
42:11
from the NFL does something far right leaning, it's
42:14
congratulated, but opposite it is not.
42:17
So you're learning from this and being like, great, OK, cannot
42:21
come out. Cannot come out.
42:23
My fans would hate me. I would lose all my money.
42:25
Maybe I would get fired. Maybe I would get like beat up
42:28
from my players, other players, teammates.
42:32
Let's talk about gay NFL players.
42:34
This is from out sports. There have been only 16 out gay
42:41
and by football players in the NF LS 105 year history 16 That's
42:49
insane. So Travis Kelsey coming out
42:55
would add one more only 17. So let's just remember like
43:00
everyone being like, oh, like, why would he?
43:02
Why would he be gay? Because you can't be gay.
43:04
You like pretty much can't. The NFL will be like, yes, you
43:08
can, but it's like you can't. I mean, you can.
43:11
It's extremely hard. It's an uphill battle.
43:14
However, the first active NFL player to come out as gay, the
43:20
first one in the entire history, was in 2021.
43:24
Karl Naseeb, he came out in 2021, first one ever.
43:30
Major headlines. Like, I can't imagine how hard
43:33
that would have been. And it's crazy that the first
43:36
time that happened was in 2021. The NFL compared to, like, our
43:40
country is so backwards. Obviously, that went over well
43:45
in some circles and didn't go over well in other circles.
43:47
Travis Kelce is probably seeing this being, like, taking notes.
43:50
OK, like, what do I do? You know what I mean?
43:53
Like, do I do this? Do I not do this?
43:56
Like, what would happen if I did do it?
43:57
That's so crazy that only one active NFL player has ever come
44:01
out. So the argument of anyone being
44:05
like, oh, he would just be out is just completely ludicrous
44:08
based on these stats. In 2021, a week after Carl came
44:14
out, the NFL made a commercial that said football is gay.
44:18
Now you may say, wow, that's surprising.
44:20
That's great, great direction. I agree.
44:23
I think that's great. It can't just be a little
44:28
statement and like one donation, OK, There has to be like a
44:32
systematic change and it's going to be a slow process for a
44:36
cultural change here. And especially with the fact
44:39
that the owners are donating to far right PACs and far right
44:47
religious, homophobic, sexist organizations and political
44:52
parties. And it also doesn't change the
44:54
perception of American football fans who are more conservative
44:59
also, like the Chiefs are way more conservative than other
45:05
teams. And the owner and the owner's
45:09
family donates to more Republican causes than like a
45:13
lot of other teams. So that's also setting the tone
45:16
for the culture of a team, right, And the city that you're
45:21
playing for. OK Finally I want to talk about
45:23
Travis Kelce's family because personally if and it is this is
45:29
APR relationship I think his close family knows.
45:33
I cannot see Kylie Kelsey being down for this whole fucking
45:38
thing if it wasn't to protect Travis.
45:41
I really feel that in my heart and when I saw that video of
45:45
Jason Kelsey yelling the F slur, when Travis Kelsey was called
45:49
the F slur, I really felt like it came from Jason wanting to
45:52
protect his brother and it makes me want to cry.
45:56
It is horrible what he said. He should not have said it.
45:59
I think it was his twisted way of defending Travis.
46:02
That's my opinion. This is from the guardian quote
46:05
video on social media show the retired Philadelphia Eagles
46:08
center. That's Jason Kelsey mixing with
46:11
fans before the Penn State Ohio State game.
46:13
One fan then asked Kelsey how does it feel that your brother
46:16
Travis is an epsler for dating Taylor Swift?
46:19
Kelsey then appeared to grab the fans phone, slam it to the
46:22
ground and say who's the epsler now?
46:25
I no, that's not OK. He never apologized to the LGBTQ
46:30
community. And I do think it's homophobic
46:33
to use that slur towards him. I can totally see in an effed up
46:38
way that that's him being like, how dare you call my brother
46:41
that. Like it came from feeling like
46:43
there was some element of how did you read that and how dare
46:47
you say that about him because I know he's gay.
46:51
You know, that's how I read it. Then in a little switch up.
46:57
This is the craziest comment from Donna Kelsey in 2024.
47:01
Donna Kelsey literally said about Travis quote because
47:05
listen, I think Donna Kelsey knows Travis is gay.
47:07
So he's she's like, why is this girl Taylor always here?
47:11
Like I think that's why she's so weird about Taylor because she's
47:14
like, what what is she doing? Like, I'm not.
47:17
That's why Taylor's not going to Thanksgiving, not eating her
47:20
roles because like she's not a part of the family.
47:24
But anyways, 2024 Donna Kelsey, she says, quote about Travis,
47:28
he's a fashionista and said his image to him is, quote, very
47:35
important. She said about her son that he's
47:38
a fashionista that is a gay son and that is a icon mother.
47:47
I think if Donna Kelsey like knows that he's gay, I think we
47:50
should all like, this really sheds light on the whole
47:56
dynamic, doesn't it? The fact that like they're like
48:00
kind of protective over him and they're on board with the whole
48:04
PR thing because it doesn't seem like they would be.
48:06
I mean, obviously they're making a lot of money from it, so there
48:11
has to be some incentive like incentivization there.
48:14
But I don't know. I think the whole thing is very
48:17
fascinating. Also, when I searched, when I
48:20
was doing research for this on Google, quote Ross Travis and
48:24
Travis Kelsey Gay, the literal first thing that comes up is a
48:28
picture of me. I'm just being so serious.
48:32
Try looking it up. It's one of the Tik Toks I made
48:35
and like, I'm there. So it's like if for some reason,
48:38
like Taylor's team or Travis's team was trying to look up and
48:42
see to see the traction of these rumors, even if they were true
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or not, they see my face. I'm going to be sued.
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I'm going to be blacklisted. But yeah, guys, that is the
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whole deep dive from what we have on the Internet.
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Now. If for some reason you have some
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tea, please let me know. I will not expose you.
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I really feel like we are at Ground Zero with this theory.
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This is literally like being a swift grown Stan in 20/12/2013
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and like building the timeline from scratch.
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So that's my theory that he's been in a long term relationship
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with. Ross needed these beards.
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Taylor's the last one and he's about to come out.
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I feel it in my heart. I hope the gold rose just
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really, it made me so hopeful. OK, that's our episode for this
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week. Guys.
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