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Trump says 'Deal' Again... · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's 6 Eastern. It's 3 o'clock Pacific.
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  Speaker 2: The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Military has struck more than 50 ISIS targets in the
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  Speaker 1: past two hours. Coast to coast and around the world
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  Speaker 1: from the America Out Loud talk radio studios.
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  Speaker 3: Following the president's order to, quote, hit them hard after
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  Speaker 3: the killing of three Americans Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 4: As Iran turns and 24 hours makes its way A
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  Speaker 4: lot of difference when it comes to what's happening in
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  Speaker 4: the Middle East right now. Thursday morning, Donald Trump says,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to take over Karg Island, possibly. And by
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  Speaker 4: three o'clock in the afternoon, we have another memorandum of understanding.
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  Speaker 4: There is peace in the Middle East, but is there?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm Booker, and this is The Truth
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  Speaker 4: Be Told. Thank you for joining us tonight and every night.
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  Speaker 4: We have a special guest tonight. He's been on the
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  Speaker 4: program several times. His name is Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gobb,
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  Speaker 4: and he was a helicopter pilot, which I told you
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  Speaker 4: Thursday night, I'm going to have him on the program
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  Speaker 4: tonight to give perspective of what those Apache helicopter pilot
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  Speaker 4: and co-pilot were going through when a drone ended up
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  Speaker 4: in their lap. That happened on Monday, and it was
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  Speaker 4: probably part of what was going on with America taking
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  Speaker 4: the tankers. It was probably involved in that operation. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, but we'll have Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gobb explain
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  Speaker 4: it to us. Colonel, welcome back to the program. Great
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  Speaker 4: to have you, as always, and I'm glad you're here
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  Speaker 4: to try to make sense of everything that's going on
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  Speaker 4: in the Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Booker. Thanks for throwing that at me. Make sense
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  Speaker 2: of everything in the Middle East. Good luck.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we know from your past visits here, you worked
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  Speaker 4: in military intelligence. You also planned wars. And you know
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  Speaker 4: a lot about the Middle East. But before we go
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  Speaker 4: to all of that, because I think it is very
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  Speaker 4: difficult to understand what's happening, I want to talk about
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  Speaker 4: this Apache. They've got a drone right there in the
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  Speaker 4: pilot's lap. What do you know about that? What can
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  Speaker 4: you talk about in that situation? And do you believe
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  Speaker 4: it was part of the taking of the tankers that
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump has talked about the last couple of days?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one is clearly something that most people have
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  Speaker 2: never heard. heard of before, because it's never happened, at
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  Speaker 2: least out in public, for sure. You know, part of
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  Speaker 2: my background, besides flying helicopters, of course, manned aviation is,
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  Speaker 2: I have a background in counter drone research technologies, applications
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  Speaker 2: and things like that. And actually wrote a master's thesis
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  Speaker 2: on the threat of drones to American forces overseas. And
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  Speaker 2: this has been almost 20 years ago when I did this.
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  Speaker 2: At the time, we weren't ready In my opinion, we
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  Speaker 2: weren't ready to address that. We've made a lot of
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  Speaker 2: strides since then. But regardless, with helicopters, of course, you
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  Speaker 2: can hit them with a drone. You can just physically
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  Speaker 2: fly a drone into a helicopter. You might be aiming
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  Speaker 2: for it, or it could be accidental, but it's certainly possible.
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  Speaker 2: I saw an article or a piece on a major
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  Speaker 2: news network recently that had a so-called drone expert on
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  Speaker 2: talking about how Iran didn't have the capabilities to take
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  Speaker 2: out an American, as it very much can be done.
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  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, about 12 hours later or so,
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  Speaker 2: we get the report that a drone ran into an Apache. Well,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's intentional or not, it happened. So how does
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  Speaker 2: that work? Well, yes, I would suspect that this Apache
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  Speaker 2: with the 82nd Airborne Division was doing support work. with
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  Speaker 2: regards to moving things through the strait, using its various
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  Speaker 2: systems to do what it does best. It's an excellent
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  Speaker 2: reconnaissance platform, by the way, both day and night, even
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  Speaker 2: better at night. But sometimes that means an aircraft that
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  Speaker 2: can do a cruise fly at about 120 knots or
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  Speaker 2: so will slow back significantly to observe something, sometimes even
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  Speaker 2: come to just a standstill hover because they can't. And
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  Speaker 2: when you do that, if someone's sometimes just sheer lucky,
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  Speaker 2: they're flying a drone and say, look, there's a helicopter hovering. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you steer your drone towards it like it's a missile
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  Speaker 2: and you hit it. And of course, the pilots, you
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  Speaker 2: got a front seater and a back seater. And the
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  Speaker 2: back seater is slightly elevated from the front. And if
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  Speaker 2: that hits the cockpit, well, I mean, there's... No real
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  Speaker 2: way to describe it accurately, but to say the least,
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  Speaker 2: it's extraordinarily shocking. It could severely injure somebody if it
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  Speaker 2: goes through the windows, which thank God they weren't hurt
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  Speaker 2: severely if they were hurt at all. And Either way, though,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to lose control of that aircraft. There's a
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  Speaker 2: number of ways to take a helicopter down if you're
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  Speaker 2: just going to physically impact it. I mean, the tail
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  Speaker 2: rotor system can be hit, and you can lose control.
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  Speaker 2: The main rotor system can be hit in various places,
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  Speaker 2: and you can lose control and just fall out of
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  Speaker 2: the sky. When you hit the cockpit, there's multiple controls
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  Speaker 2: that you could lose, and the aircraft is just out
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  Speaker 2: of control. You can't do anything. And then you go in.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, you go into the water.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you go right side up or upside down, before
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  Speaker 2: you do overwater operations in helicopters, you go through a
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  Speaker 2: significant amount of training about how to deal with that.
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  Speaker 2: You get special equipment to go in the overwater as well,
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  Speaker 2: flotation devices and things like that. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 2: what was extraordinarily fascinating to me and it was great
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  Speaker 2: to see was a drone boat that was sent to
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  Speaker 2: recover them. which reduces the risk for people in the
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  Speaker 2: recovery phase. It reduces the need for securing more people.
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  Speaker 2: Rather than having people drive the motor course, it's autonomous
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  Speaker 2: and taking care of it itself so it can do
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  Speaker 2: more and carry more on return. So to me, this
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  Speaker 2: is an example of what a little flavor of what
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  Speaker 2: a world that can be quickly consumed quite a bit
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  Speaker 2: by drone warfare, whether it be land, sea, or air,
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  Speaker 2: what that looks like and the kind of things that
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  Speaker 2: you can hear about in conflict. And this is not
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  Speaker 2: the end. We're going to hear about more things with
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  Speaker 2: regards to what drones are capable of doing. So this
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  Speaker 2: was not a surprise to me that this could happen.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question. Is conventional war that
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  Speaker 4: we knew 20 years ago, is it over? The fact
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  Speaker 4: of needing an army on the ground somewhere. Have we
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  Speaker 4: seen the end of those days?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we've seen the end, but I would
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  Speaker 2: say to a point we've seen the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: end to needing him in large quantities. And also, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, what nations can do. in conflict using systems
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  Speaker 2: like this. Yeah. And I've written about this extensively in
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  Speaker 2: my book on real clear defense and other, other places
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  Speaker 2: that basically large economies like ours can spend millions or
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  Speaker 2: billions of dollars on equipment and things and less capable
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  Speaker 2: or less industrial nations can now buy things that are
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  Speaker 2: almost equally as lethal.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or pennies or less on the dollar. And perfect example
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  Speaker 2: was when Hamas invaded into Israel and you had quadcopter
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  Speaker 2: drones dropping explosives on Merkava Israeli tanks and destroying them. That's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, five figure drones at the most dropping a
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  Speaker 2: simple bomb on a million plus dollar tank.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you're equalizing the battlefield in many ways a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But what most nations still can't do when we are
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  Speaker 2: properly is match America's leadership and skills in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: And also the fact that we have in Western nations
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  Speaker 2: have a non-commissioned officer corps, the sergeants that can make
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things happen and display a lot of
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  Speaker 2: initiative and get things done. that you don't see in
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  Speaker 2: Eastern European armies, Russia, in the Middle East, places like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's what gives us a leg up still, regardless of technology.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the human component will always be there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're probably right. I just don't know
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  Speaker 4: that we'll ever see an army of 500, 600,000 like
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  Speaker 4: we did in the first Gulf War. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that we'll ever see that again. Maybe, maybe not. I
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  Speaker 4: hope that we don't. I hope all wars end anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Going back to the drone boats, When I heard that,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't realize that we have drone boats. I found
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  Speaker 4: it very interesting and amazing at the same time. How
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  Speaker 4: far can they go? They came from a mothership somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: What is their distance they can travel to go make
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  Speaker 4: a rescue like they did? By the way, both of
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  Speaker 4: the pilots were rescued by the drone boat.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they were. That's technical data that can't even be
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  Speaker 2: shared anyways. But these drones are quite capable, and that's
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  Speaker 2: a surface-of-the-water drone. We have subsurface drones when you start
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  Speaker 2: talking about mine sweeping and things like that. Clearly, we've
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  Speaker 2: got the airborne drones. We've got robotics that operate on land.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, there are space-based assets in all of
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  Speaker 2: this as part of the equation, too. When we're talking
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  Speaker 2: drone warfare, everybody envisions quadcopters and fixed-wing drones and things
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  Speaker 2: like that, but it's all components, land, sea, air, underwater, underground,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you name it, it's all being or has
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  Speaker 2: been developed and will continue to increase in capability. And
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  Speaker 2: that's actually what my thesis was on my master's degree
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  Speaker 2: was basically saying that the advent of fixed wing aircraft
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  Speaker 2: to about the first Gulf War, that's the same trend
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  Speaker 2: line and pattern you're going to see with drones as
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  Speaker 2: they first started with lightweight single engine, low capabilities, low speed,
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, lightweight reconnaissance, dropping single bombs,
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  Speaker 2: things like that, growing to where what you see fixed
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  Speaker 2: wing manned aviation today with F-22s and F-35s and all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, you're going to see that same
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  Speaker 2: pattern of development in drones, but it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: accelerated because they're also going to, just because of how
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  Speaker 2: technology doubles, And then also the lack of limitations that
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  Speaker 2: human beings in a cockpit bring to an aircraft. Those
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  Speaker 2: aren't there. So it's going to be an incredible future
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  Speaker 2: in all this. But unfortunately, like I would love to
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  Speaker 2: see all that technology and those capabilities put into something productive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not warfare. Yeah. But we have to defend ourselves because
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  Speaker 2: people want to kill us.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, they do want to kill us. I want to
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  Speaker 4: go back to something you talked about there a minute ago,
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  Speaker 4: maybe leveling the playing field in warfare with countries that
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  Speaker 4: aren't as developed as, say, America, Russia, or China, big
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  Speaker 4: countries with a lot of military. These drones are not
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  Speaker 4: very expensive, $ 35, 000, $ 40, 000 that ended up in the Apache
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  Speaker 4: pilot and co-pilot's lap. And that's the point that you
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  Speaker 4: are making there. And I think Iran has a lot
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  Speaker 4: of these drones and They're cheap, really, in comparison to
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  Speaker 4: an F-22 or F-35, not even close. You're talking about
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  Speaker 4: thousands versus millions, aren't you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. And it's not just an air-to-air thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: look at what Ukraine did to the flagship ship, I
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  Speaker 2: should say, of the Russian fleet in Sevastopol. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a $ 100, 000 land-based missile that takes out a
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  Speaker 2: multi-million dollar flagship. And The same is true with things
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  Speaker 2: like javelin missiles that can take out tanks, pennies or
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  Speaker 2: less on the dollar. And you can flood a nation
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  Speaker 2: with javelins. And next thing you know, every bit of
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  Speaker 2: armor you've got is irrelevant. And now think about that
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  Speaker 2: tank that you spent millions of dollars on. And oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, you've got an entire logistics system behind that. Oil, fuel, parts,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, training, all these different kinds of things,
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  Speaker 2: the maintenance. And you've just, largely eliminated an entire armored
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  Speaker 2: fleet for, again, pennies or less on the dollar. That
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  Speaker 2: takes very limited training. It's pretty much look through the scope,
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  Speaker 2: pull the trigger, javelin takes out tank. Easy. Same with drones.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I see changing. And what does that do, though?
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  Speaker 2: That in some ways levels the battlefield to an extent
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  Speaker 2: with less industrialized nations compared to us. Clearly, we're showing
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  Speaker 2: that that's not exactly science because we've handled Iran militarily
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  Speaker 2: very easily from the surface level. I mean, none of
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  Speaker 2: this is easy, but what most people envision with a
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  Speaker 2: conflict with a nation like Iran from a military perspective
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  Speaker 2: is not what you saw. It was a very clear overmatch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly was. It didn't last, but really, I guess,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks in reality and could have been
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  Speaker 4: over quicker, I believe, in hindsight, looking back at it.
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  Speaker 4: And really, in my opinion, Darren, we probably should have
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  Speaker 4: just kept pouring it on them. And we're going to
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  Speaker 4: get to what Donald Trump is trying to accomplish here
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  Speaker 4: with this peace deal and whether or not it's actually
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  Speaker 4: going to happen. We've heard this a lot over the
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  Speaker 4: last eight weeks, I guess, since the ceasefire. This deal
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  Speaker 4: was coming at any time. And I think with Iran,
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  Speaker 4: You really can't even make a deal with them because
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  Speaker 4: they don't live to those expectations on any deal that
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  Speaker 4: they make. They just simply lie. And that will be
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  Speaker 4: the hard part is holding them accountable if we get
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  Speaker 4: to a peace deal. And we'll get to that in
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  Speaker 4: a minute. Real quick, while we're on drones, real quick
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  Speaker 4: about Cuba, because we know they have about 300 drones
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  Speaker 4: that were supplied by China and Russia. And that's only
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  Speaker 4: 80 miles from the Florida coast. And I've posed this
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  Speaker 4: question before. Is Cuba an imminent threat? And would it
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  Speaker 4: require a War Powers Act to go down and get
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  Speaker 4: Raul Castro, who they had now indicted just like they
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  Speaker 4: did Maduro? Is there going to be another police action
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  Speaker 4: in Cuba? And then the question is, is Cuba an
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  Speaker 4: imminent threat? And I think militarily, no one in the
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  Speaker 4: world would look at Cuba and say, yeah, they're a
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  Speaker 4: military threat to the United States. And then I asked
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  Speaker 4: the question, what if one of their drones gets through
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  Speaker 4: the defenses of America? and somehow hits a high-rise condo
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  Speaker 4: in Miami, killing 100 people, would that have been an
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  Speaker 4: imminent threat at Cuba at that point? And I would
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  Speaker 4: have to say yes. And then if you apply that
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  Speaker 4: same logic to Iran and a ballistic missile or a
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  Speaker 4: nuclear weapon, then they also would have to be deemed
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  Speaker 4: an imminent threat. What are your thoughts there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, with Iran, I think, let's just say they
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  Speaker 2: had a nuclear weapon. I don't think they'd even question
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  Speaker 2: their desire to use it and willingness to use it. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and that's obviously the main concern, uh, regarding Cuba.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Militarily. I mean, they're essentially not a threat at all.
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  Speaker 4: No, they're a joke. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: From the perspective of a typical military force on military
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  Speaker 2: force there, it doesn't even, doesn't even rate, uh, What
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  Speaker 2: is the threat? It's very similar to what you described.
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  Speaker 2: Do they have the capability to employ drones that can
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  Speaker 2: cover the distance from Cuba to, say, Miami? That could
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  Speaker 2: cause a problem, especially if you're able to put something
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  Speaker 2: on that that causes casualties or call it chemical, biological,
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  Speaker 2: something radiological, dirty bomb type, depending on the type of
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  Speaker 2: drones that are employed. The other thing would be, of course,
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  Speaker 2: what if they smuggled these systems into the United States
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  Speaker 2: and act like implanted terror cells inside this country, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm 100% positive and actually know that Iran has already
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  Speaker 2: done that here. So both of those nations in that
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  Speaker 2: regard could do something like that here. Is it going
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  Speaker 2: to be something or would it be something 9-11 style
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  Speaker 2: in magnitude that Not really. Not unless it is something
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  Speaker 2: that would be effectively used as a chemical or biological system.
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  Speaker 2: Both of which, by the way, are not near as
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  Speaker 2: lethal or dangerous from a macro perspective as it usually
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  Speaker 2: gets produced in Hollywood or whatever. But that doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: them not dangerous. So I think they're a threat, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't would never call them an existential threat. It's
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  Speaker 2: just something we have to account for and make sure
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  Speaker 2: that we don't take our eye off of.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. Darren, we are up against a break.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to take it now. We're coming back with
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  Speaker 4: more of this conversation. We're going to do another segment together.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to get into the oil that Trump has
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  Speaker 4: confiscated and got through the straight of Hormuz. And then
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  Speaker 4: the deal, the deal. Is this going to be the
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  Speaker 4: one that is the deal?
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  Speaker 4: We are visiting with Lieutenant Colonel Darren Gov tonight. Incredible
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  Speaker 4: experience in the military. You hear him talking. He's a
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  Speaker 4: smart guy. He knows what he's talking about. And I
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  Speaker 4: always go to him for answers. I don't know that
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  Speaker 4: anybody can really answer what's happening in Iran. I'm quite
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  Speaker 4: honestly a little bit frustrated at this point because I
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  Speaker 4: would have never negotiated with them. I didn't know who
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  Speaker 4: ever going to happen?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Great questions, and I dare say there's no one who's
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: going to say an even absolute right now. I mean,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think the president can say an absolute that
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it will happen right now, even though he might say it,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: because that's just kind of how he is. Um, but
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I have said routinely since this, uh, Iran
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: mission started and we decapitated them basically that, uh, Iran
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: is currently being led by a picture frame and nobody
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: can really say that that person truly exists. And even
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: if they do exist, are they the leader or are
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: they the figurehead? Uh, And so you've got some issues
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: with regards to all of that because, as you identified,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: who are you negotiating with? And even if that person
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: does actually exist, does that person have the capability to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: enforce anything they sign in the first place? Because the
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: IRGC was given orders before any of this even started
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: that said if we did something like what we did,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: that they were to continue the fight regardless. And so
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you've got a disconnected between those political religious leaders in Tehran,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: and especially the hardline upper crust of the IRGC, who
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: look at this from the perspective of what Iran's thugs are,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: which is an apocalyptic death cult surrounded with Islamist radicalism,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: who says, if we can defeat militarily the United States
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: or Israel, we win. If we lose to them, but
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: sow chaos throughout the region, and then murder ourselves, essentially,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: We win. So their goal ultimately is to exhaust us
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and survive because that's a win for them too.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Darren, I think they've been doing a pretty good job
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: at that, actually. Since the ceasefire April 7th, that's exactly
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: what they've done. And they've done it last year too.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: A year ago, we were doing Midnight Hammer. And the
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Trump administration had been negotiating with them for a couple
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: of months before that. And it went nowhere. And he
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: got so frustrated. He did midnight hammer. And here we
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: are with epic fury and we're negotiating still. And it's going,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, it's going nowhere.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, and so I guess this is where I
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: would ultimately, I agree with you. Um, but there is
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: one nuance. I think it's worth watching just to see
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: how it plays out. Um, in my world, we talk
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: about the, you know, four elements of national power and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: things that we're going to be, you know, emphasizing and
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I've used all of them in some capacity and in
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: or out of uniform is, and it's an acronym called dime.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: It's diplomacy, information, military, and economics. And so diplomacy is
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: obviously ongoing started before the war even started. Um, of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: course the war started in 1979, but, um, The information
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: is wrapped up in all of this always. The military side,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: clear victory, completely defeated Iran and will continue to do
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: so if necessary. But the economic side of things is
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: what I've been watching pretty closely. And whether by design
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: or whether by accident, the naval blockade combined with our
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: largely destroying the industrial-scale terrorism and military organization that is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Iran and their capabilities to reproduce that has left them
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: in an economic void, losing $ 500 million, $ 600 million a day,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: can't pay a large part of the RAGC, maybe even
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you might find some of the lower-ranking folks who walk
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: away because they're not getting paid, can't support their families,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and they're not really as ideological as the higher-ranking folks.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And so that The economics takes time. And their economy
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: is really not doing well. Is that going to bring
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: them to heel? Probably not.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Well, it hasn't been doing well in a while. They
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: were at 100% inflation back in January and February when
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: everybody was out in the streets in Iran and they
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: killed people. That was largely due to the inflation and
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: the economy in Iran. And that was all before this,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: and I've heard inflation now maybe up to 200% in
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: that country. Here's something else about the financial aspect of
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: epic fury, economic fury. Secretary of Treasury Scott Bessette, he's
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: done a great job here. He has confiscated maybe up
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: to a billion dollars in cryptocurrency from Iran, and he
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: shut down all these other countries from doing business with
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Iran as well. I think it's getting lost on a
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: lot of people, the great job that he's done and
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: what he has done to help the effort here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Scott Pesina has done a very good
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: job with what he's doing. What you talked about with
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: regards to the people in the streets in January, February
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: time because of what was going on economically, I can't
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: help but think that that's what the goal was with this,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: is hoping that the Iranian people would.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Rise up because they're, they're really the answer to this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Um, and get the enough people involved with enough momentum
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to where the IRGC would have to make a very
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: clear decision on whether or not to actually continue doing
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: what they're doing against their own people or not. And,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you know, there's maybe 400,000 IRGC. How many of those
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: are really ideologically hardline, uh, against, uh, divide the population
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of Iran in half, and you're still at 45 million.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: If they wanted to, they could. It's high risk. We
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: know that. But they've been under the thumb for so long.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And these mullahs are really actually quite good at stamping
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: out dissension. And we've seen the reports of Trump saying
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: they're trying to get weapons through the Kurds into Iran,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and the Kurds kept them. And I don't know if
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that's 100% true or not.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Well, the last time you were here, we talked about
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: the Kurds. And you didn't think it was necessarily a
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: good idea, as I recall. And from what I hear,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: it was Turkey that stepped in and said, don't get
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the Kurds involved here. And I remembered you saying something
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: about the other countries around that may not want the
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Kurds involved. And that's, I think, what happened here. I
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: do have some sound here with exactly what you're talking about,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: with Donald Trump saying about the Kurds and And then
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: how terrified the Iranian people are, because the only way
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: this is really going to, you know, come to the
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: conclusion that I think you and I both would want,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: and that would be that there be a regime change,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: because that would be the best thing. It's got to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: come from the people. But listen to President Donald Trump here.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: We actually sent them weapons, and we were very disappointed
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: by the Kurds, to be honest with you. The Kurds
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: let us down.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I disagreed with the decision.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I was saying, no, I don't believe they'll deliver them.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I think they kept them for themselves. I think it's
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: a disgrace. But I'll remember that, Kurds. I'll remember that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: But they have some guns, but they don't have the weapons. Look,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: even if they had some, they're petrified.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: He's saying the people of Iran are now terrified. They've
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: lived under the thumb for 47 years of these mullahs
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and the ayatollahs, the IRGC. And we don't know how
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: many were killed in January, February in that time frame.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: You see reports of 40,000. I can't corroborate that in
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: any way. I see 3,000 to 6,000 quite a bit.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: It really doesn't matter. It's a lot of people. That's
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: what they're afraid of.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: And who can blame them?
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're looking at this from our perspective in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the environment we live in and not from the perspective
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: of a people who've, frankly, I mean, this is, it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: like a prisoner of war underneath the captor for so long.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: They get to the point where they trust their captor
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and display that sort of a version of the Stockholm
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: syndrome where they trust their captor more than they do their,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: the person who's trying to free them. And, there's an
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: aspect of that here. And then with the Kurds themselves,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: one of the things I think I mentioned to you
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: was the way the Kurds are spread around throughout the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Middle East, that Turkey would have to get involved to
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: try to prevent that because I've operated in Turkey. I've
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: worked along the Syrian border. And one of the things
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that makes it very difficult to do missions in Turkey,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: even though they're a NATO member, is the fact that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: they think Americans are always coming into Turkey and trying
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to arm the Kurds to take over the Turkish government.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And so they don't let us really do much of
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: anything because of fear of us doing that. The other challenge,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of course, is that we remember in this case what
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the Kurds have potentially done here, but the Kurds will
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: remember that we left them out to dry in Syria. So,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you know, we're not exactly on the moral high ground
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: necessarily in their perspective with this. Either way, I think
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: it would be very difficult to get enough weapons into
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Iran to. make it a clean action, I guess you
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: could say, and make it truly possible for the people
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to take over using overwhelming firepower. They just have to
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: do it with enough people and momentum and be willing
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to accept the risk that this is their chance to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: turn it around. So if this were me and Trump
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: had gone back into a bombing campaign, as he just paused,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: or if he does again, I think you have to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: go in with the mindset of eliminating every single thing
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: you possibly can that is IRGC. And then give the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: people the best chance they possibly can.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like to see that. Do you know
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: anything about the operation getting the oil tankers out that
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump has talked about? He first mentioned 22, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: then in the Oval Office on Thursday, he said they've
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: been doing it for four or five days. They got
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: 13 out one night, 14, 25, 22 tankers. It's been
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: a bunch of tankers. Do you know anything about those operations,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: how they would work in your mind if maybe you
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: planned anything like that in the past? What do you know?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Well, ultimately, I guess to keep it simple on how
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: it would work is we went through and eliminated all
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: the radar systems that can oversee the Strait in the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: first place. So you blinded Iran. from a radar perspective.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Next thing you do is you do those operations at night,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: escorting or helping tankers to get through the strait with
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: all the lights out. And now they can't see it,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: see them largely at night too. By the way, at
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the same time, you've mostly eliminated their drone capability. And
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: even though their drones don't really have the night vision
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: capabilities that ours do. So all you're really doing is
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: sneaking them out in the dead of night when they
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: can't see them in the first place. And I think
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: it's a great call. I mean, why not? Because you've
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: still got Iraq, you've got Kuwait, you've got Saudi Arabia,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: you've got lots of other places. You've got other places
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: in the Gulf there who will continue to export oil.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And if they see tankers moving and other people see
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: tankers moving, you've taken some of Iran's leverage away. And
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: even if they know about it now, that doesn't necessarily
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: mean they can do much about it anyways.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: When you look at this deal and you hear that
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump is putting the Abraham Accord on the table
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: for Saudi Arabia and some other countries to sign, how
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: big a deal would that be for the Middle East
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: if Donald Trump is able to accomplish that?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That'd be a huge deal. And so with great risk
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: comes great reward if you're successful. And it's a great
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: risk if you expand the negotiations to multiple countries, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: now you're dealing with multiple personalities and security situations and
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: you name it, it makes something like that a lot harder.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: But if you can walk away with a bunch of
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: those countries and specifically something like a Saudi Arabia, which
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: is the chief strategic competitor to Iran on an Abraham Accord, um,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: that's a message all its own. That's an extraordinarily difficult
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: bridge to cross. And if it gets done, then, uh,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Give credit where credit is due.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I wrote an article back months ago now,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of this, because as I have watched
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: the Middle East over the last two and a half
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: years now, you can see that everybody was against Iran.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: There was not going to be a regional conflict, no
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: World War III. All of these other Arab nations are
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: against Iran. And if we can somehow pull this off
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: to have more countries join the Abraham Accords and doing
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: business with Israel. That's what it is. And typically they
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: don't do a lot of business with Israel. We can
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: rely on Israel and Mossad a lot less than we
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: do now because we now have formed these partnerships and
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: allies with these Arab nations that circle Iran. And I
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: think that would be a great thing, even for the
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: people that are on the right that don't like Israel
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: now for whatever reason, and they think that this war
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: was a bad idea. If he comes away with that
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I think this war was a great idea. Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Again, this is something I think I told Harris Faulkner
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: on Fox News. I said, this is an opportunity that
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: is multi-generational in nature in what it could be in
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the end. And let's take it to another level, too,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: where let's just say this Abraham McCord comes out and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you have people that will generally get along and even
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: work with Israel to a certain point. You don't have
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to be best buddies, but you just have to be
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: a good neighbor, maybe even a good trading partner. Let's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: say Iran turns the corner and starts going towards that also. Well,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you know, that leads me to say someday we could
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: just say, you know what, let's take our military out
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: of the Middle East and let's engage via other means now.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I said the same thing, Darren, months ago.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I said that same thing months ago, Darren, and I
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: said that this war is, you know, America first, because
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: if we can get out of the Middle East as
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: a result of what we're doing now, look at the
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: trillions of dollars, the American lives that we can save.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: That will be what ultimately happens here if things go
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: the way that Donald Trump wants them to go here.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: That's the way I see it, and that's the way
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I've seen it for months. Well, yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: And I hope you're right and I'm right. And anybody
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: else who's thinking like this is right. And it's just
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: one example, too, because, you know, get them out and
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: get out of the Middle East. It's a quagmire. It
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: has always been a quagmire for so long. It's it's
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: it's time.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: It can be time to engage in a different way.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I think 100 percent of Americans. I think 100 percent
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: of Americans don't want to be in the Middle East.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: That is probably the only thing that 100 percent of
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Americans agree on right whether you're right, left, conservative, liberal,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. What are we doing over there? Well,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: let's do this, get it over with, get out of
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: there and not go back. Right.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, then let's explore other places
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: where we might be able to do the same thing too.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I've said for many, many, many years that the South
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Korean army is quite capable of defending itself and that
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: we're just a tripwire. Why do we need to be
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: in South Korea? We really don't. I recognize the treaty aspect,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: but 30,000 people in South Korea, North Korea goes crazy. No,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the real threat over there is actually South Korea going north. So,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: you know, we can revisit a lot of our footprint too,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: which is why I'm also a big fan of scaling
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: back in Europe and just working with the European nations
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: with liaison officers and then going and doing training exercises
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: and then bringing them back home. We don't need to
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: be world police. So, I think there's a I would
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: love to be in a planning cell and part of
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the operations cell that puts together the idea of bringing
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: our forces home to our country and engaging in the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: world in a different manner.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: And Darren, that is America first. And that would be
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: a promise made and a promise kept. No more foreign wars.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: We had to go through this one for a few
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: months to get to there. And I think that's what
• 37:21
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• 37:25
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• 37:28
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• 37:31
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: It's a, the book is called Veritas Vincent, which stands
• 37:35
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• 37:38
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• 37:42
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• 37:45
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• 37:51
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• 37:55
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• 37:57
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• 38:01
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• 38:04
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• 38:07
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• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Darren, for coming on the program always. His
• 38:11
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• 38:12
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• 38:19
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• 38:22
  Speaker 4: thank you so much.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Booker. Always a pleasure to join you.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Look at this.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Quinnipiac, 34%.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Ipsos, 35%.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: New York Times, 37%. CBS News, 37%.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Fox, 39%.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: The bottom line is, across the board, Donald Trump is
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: at historic lows for his second term, and all of them, sub-40%. Now,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: why is this sub-40% so important? Because who are the
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: other presidents who are sub-40% at this point in their
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: second term? Well, there are only two that I could find.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Only two that I could find. Richard Nixon in 1974, which, of.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Course, was the height of Watergate.
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  Speaker 3: You had George W.
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  Speaker 5: Bush.
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  Speaker 3: when, of course, the Iraq war was absolutely draining on
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  Speaker 3: him back in 2006.
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  Speaker 4: And approval ratings mean everything when it comes to a
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  Speaker 4: midterm election for the president. What does all that mean?
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  Speaker 4: Trump is now below 40%. I even saw a poll
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  Speaker 4: the other day, 30% on the economy. The Associated Press
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  Speaker 4: says independents have grown increasingly unhappy with President Donald Trump
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  Speaker 4: During his second term, they did a poll recently and
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  Speaker 4: the analysis from the researchers at the Associated Press NORC,
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  Speaker 4: Center for Public Affairs Research, shows that while about half
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  Speaker 4: of independents without a college education had a positive view
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  Speaker 4: of Trump around the 2024 election, his approval rating with
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  Speaker 4: that group fell to about one quarter this spring. And
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  Speaker 4: what does that mean? Well, when you look at approval
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  Speaker 4: ratings in midterm elections, if a president is down there
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  Speaker 4: around 40 percent, you're looking at losing 25 House seats.
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  Speaker 4: And the Republicans can't afford that. That would flip the
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  Speaker 4: House and give Hakeem Jeffries the gavel and control in
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  Speaker 4: the House of Representatives. That leads to investigations and impeachments.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what we have in front of us if
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  Speaker 4: people don't get out and vote. This is concerning. I
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  Speaker 4: did analysis of this at the end of last year,
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of this year. And when a president's approval
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  Speaker 4: rating is lower, he loses more seats. And as I've
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  Speaker 4: mentioned many times, I compare Donald Trump to Ronald Reagan
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  Speaker 4: coming in after Jimmy Carter. And now coming in after
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden, Donald Trump had a mess to clean up.
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  Speaker 4: Iran hasn't helped him. People are growing weary. Inflation is
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  Speaker 4: at 4.2%. So this thing in Iran needs to end
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  Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. And we see Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 4: working on that. Will they sign a deal? He says J.D.
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  Speaker 4: Vance is going to Europe to sign this agreement. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 4: the Iranian leaders, whoever they are, they haven't said a
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  Speaker 4: thing about this peace deal. We'll just have to wait
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  Speaker 4: and see. But these approval ratings, they're troubling. They are
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  Speaker 4: troubling going into this midterm. And I just think that
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  Speaker 4: we have been witnessing it since last November that the
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  Speaker 4: low turnout for the Republicans... is a reflection of that.
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  Speaker 4: People are growing weary, but you can't do that. You
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  Speaker 4: have to get out and vote. You have to get
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  Speaker 4: active in your own community. It's so important. I have
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  Speaker 4: talked about it for years and years, and I know
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  Speaker 4: a lot of you have. And by the way, if
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  Speaker 4: as you heard earlier this week, my friend Carl from Maine,
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  Speaker 4: he was able to put a message in my direct message,
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  Speaker 4: and I played it here on the air. I'm always
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  Speaker 4: happy to do that. I love other people's opinion. I
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  Speaker 4: don't believe, I believe that every opinion is valid. I
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  Speaker 4: try to teach my kids that. Every opinion is valid.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you agree with it. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 4: they're right. It just means opinions come from one's life
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  Speaker 4: experience and their knowledge. And until you listen to another
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  Speaker 4: person and their opinion, you're probably not going to have
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