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Credlin | 1 July · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendland live on sky Ingins Australia. Good evening, Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Creedlin. Steve Price sitting in for Peter all this week.
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Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up on the program tonight. Australia's relationship
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Speaker 1: with the United States, Well, you've got to say it
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Speaker 1: goes from bad to worse. Foreign Minister Penny Wong, she's
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Speaker 1: in Washington to meet her US counterpart, Marco Rubio. But
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Speaker 1: ken she and Kevin Rudd, our ambassador, get the PM
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Speaker 1: face to face with Donald Trump. Andrew Clannel with an
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Speaker 1: update on all of that. Shortly. Still on politics, the
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Speaker 1: government stubborn refusal to back down at all on changes
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Speaker 1: to superannuation even has Paul Keating complaining. David Pearl, ex
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Speaker 1: Treasury will tell us what might happen next with that legislation,
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Speaker 1: and I'll take you to the UK where the antisemitic
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Speaker 1: Rapper disgrace at Glastonbury is still playing out today. And
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Speaker 1: guess who's the highest paid state premier in Australia after
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Speaker 1: a recent pay rise. No, it's not WA's Roger Cook
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Speaker 1: and his mining royalty driven budget surplus. It's not even
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Speaker 1: South Australia's widely popular, Peter melanowskis Nope, it is victorious,
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Speaker 1: just Siner Allen on five hundred and thirteen thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: a year. I'll get our panel reaction to that, and
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Speaker 1: I'll also find out what is the latest with this
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Speaker 1: brutal weather pattern that is striking the east coast of Australia,
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Speaker 1: particularly on the central coast of New South Wales. But
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Speaker 1: first up tonight, what about the perfect example of self
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Speaker 1: delusion from our Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi on Sky News
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Speaker 1: Today with Peter Stefanovic. When do you expect to sit
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Speaker 1: down with Donald Trump?
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Speaker 2: Oh, when we have a meeting. We'll have a meeting.
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Speaker 2: And when it's scheduled that will occur. We'll see each
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Speaker 2: other a lot in the last months of the year.
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Speaker 3: That's when summit season occurs.
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Speaker 1: For God's sake, when we have a meeting, we'll have
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Speaker 1: a meeting. I mean, thanks for telling us that. The
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister even called us, being Australia a significant player
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Speaker 1: in keeping the peace in our region.
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Speaker 2: Have a look Australia, doesn't you know? Just be passive here.
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Speaker 2: Australia always pulls our weight and as I as the
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Speaker 2: Australian Prime Minister. I'll talk up our contribution because we
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Speaker 2: are significant allies where significant players in delivering peace and
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Speaker 2: security in our region.
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Speaker 1: Sadly, the blood goes from worse to worse to worse.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe it, as I said, delusional a peacekeeper.
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Speaker 1: He calls Australia with what exactly a busted navy, no defense,
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Speaker 1: attack drones, a compromised air force and an ADF where
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Speaker 1: morale is at an all time low. I guess if
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Speaker 1: you keep telling yourself something long enough, and you keep
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Speaker 1: repeating it over and over and over publicly, you end
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Speaker 1: up believing it. I can only presume defense chiefs are
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Speaker 1: repeating this mantra to the Prime Minister because at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, you don't want to admit the
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Speaker 1: historical mistakes that you have made leading defense that's led
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Speaker 1: us to where we are right now.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: Australia could have, as Tony Abbott suggested, brought conventional submarines
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Speaker 1: off the shelf from the Japanese, but no, the government
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Speaker 1: decided not to do that. We had the French Deal
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Speaker 1: and we walked out on that as well, instead signing Orcust,
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Speaker 1: which means many of us won't live to see the
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Speaker 1: nuclear attack hubs even in the ocean in our naval colors.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how many defense white papers and reviews do
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Speaker 1: we need? How many of the late Jim Molean warnings
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Speaker 1: do we need about how we can't defend ourselves? How
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Speaker 1: many times do we have to be told we only
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Speaker 1: have a month or so of stored petrol, no reserves
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Speaker 1: of oil. I mean, seriously, I mean, we are kidding ourselves.
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Speaker 1: And the dangerous mood that is settled over camera seems
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Speaker 1: to be well, don't worry. If we really get in trouble,
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Speaker 1: the Americans will come over, riding over the horizon and
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Speaker 1: save us as they normally do. But the big question
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Speaker 1: now is will they with this president? Who knows? Which
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Speaker 1: brings me to ambassad the Kevin Rudd. What a mistake
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Speaker 1: that appointment was, And it was made by Anthony Albanezi
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Speaker 1: because their mates. Sky's Laura Jays is in Washington this week.
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Speaker 1: She had a Republican polster by the name of Brent
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Speaker 1: Buchanan on her morning show yesterday. Here is what he
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Speaker 1: told Laura about the non relationship between Kevin Rudd and
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Speaker 1: the White House.
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Speaker 5: Donald Trump needs to find an Australian that he likes,
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Speaker 5: or Australia needs to find an Australian that Donald Trump
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Speaker 5: likes and let that person take point. Because so much
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Speaker 5: with Donald Trump is personal relationship.
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Speaker 6: Do you think this is personal He simply doesn't know
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Speaker 6: Anthony Albanezi or he doesn't like him.
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Speaker 5: I think he doesn't like the current ambassador and that's
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Speaker 5: one of the biggest issues.
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Speaker 1: Really, he doesn't like him. I mean, clearly Ruds not
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Speaker 1: the bloke for this job. I mean, here's a couple
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Speaker 1: of people. I mean we talk about find someone Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump likes who's Australian and get them involved here. Well,
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Speaker 1: here's a couple of people that Prime Minister should start
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Speaker 1: by recruiting the busy cardboard king and billionaire Anthony Pratt,
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Speaker 1: number one millionaire Gina Reinhart, current and former golfers like
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Speaker 1: Adam Scott and Greg Norman who both have relationships with
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Or suck up your pride and Anthony and
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Speaker 1: go back to former Ambassador Joe Hockey or even former
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Now the PM won't do this,
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Speaker 1: of course, but he seriously needs a circuit breaker here
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Speaker 1: and that is not Kevin Rudd Still on politics, Let's
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Speaker 1: head to Camberra Now for tonight's political headlines with Skotte
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Speaker 1: News reporter Rubinspago.
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Speaker 6: A union boss, as the latest to join growing calls
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Speaker 6: for changes to Labour's contentious superannuation plan. He will double
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Speaker 6: the tax on earnings for balances more than three million
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Speaker 6: dollars and applies to unrealized capital gains. ACTU Secretary Salliam
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Speaker 6: McManus believes it should be indexed to reduce the number
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Speaker 6: of people course in the net over their working life.
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Speaker 6: Former Prime Minister Paul Keating is also weighing in. He
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Speaker 6: claims Labour's plan will affect more Australians than originally forecast.
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Speaker 6: The Prime Minister is defending his plans.
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Speaker 2: Very modest changes discussed. We are right, we are right. Well,
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Speaker 2: good on you. You stay on, Paul, I'll stay on superannuation.
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Speaker 1: But because he's wrong, no.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about superannuation.
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Speaker 6: Members of the government have flagged that the thresholds would
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Speaker 6: likely be changed in the future. Labor will have an
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Speaker 6: easier time passing laws when Parliament returns in a little
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Speaker 6: under three weeks. It's due to the new makeup of
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Speaker 6: the Senate, which formally began today. There are seventy six
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Speaker 6: seats in the Senate and thirty nine are required to
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Speaker 6: pass legislation. At the end of the last parliament, Labour
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Speaker 6: held twenty six seats, meaning they needed support from thirteen
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Speaker 6: crossbenches to pass anything giving significance way to independence. Helped
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Speaker 6: by the defection of Into Cocks, Labour's numbers have grown
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Speaker 6: to twenty nine. It means the government can now pass
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Speaker 6: bills with the support of the Greens alone.
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Speaker 1: Staying on the politics, joining me now, Sky's political editor
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Speaker 1: Andrew Clanel this saga, Andrew. I mean, the only way
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Speaker 1: it's going to end is when Donald Trump picks up
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Speaker 1: the phone and says, right and make come and see me.
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Speaker 7: And that'll happen, I think. But until it does, it's
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Speaker 7: really uncomfortable, isn't it. I'm almost cringe while I'm watching it. Steve,
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Speaker 7: to be honest with you, the breakfast hosts, all four
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Speaker 7: of them, are asking him about it this morning. Here
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Speaker 7: he is, the PMS trying to say, on July one,
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Speaker 7: you get energy rebates, you get more super compulsory super
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Speaker 7: you get wage increases, and all that they want to
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Speaker 7: ask him about is this meeting with Trump, because it's
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Speaker 7: a fair question.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 7: The thing that really kicks it off more is that
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Speaker 7: after Donald Trump hat had to lead the G seven
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Speaker 7: early understandably and couldn't meet Anthony Albanez. He had phone
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Speaker 7: comations with other leaders, but not alb and easy and
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Speaker 7: you do, sort of as an observer then go, well,
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Speaker 7: what's the problem he is, Kevin Rudd, The problem is
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Speaker 7: defense spending. The problem. It opens itself up to all
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Speaker 7: sorts of speculation. And I'm sure once he has those
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Speaker 7: meetings with Trump, we won't have that anymore. But it
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Speaker 7: looks like a couple of months before that occurs, so
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Speaker 7: that's pretty uncomfortable here. He is, he's won this swinging victory,
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Speaker 7: so many seats he won, but yet he's got an
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Speaker 7: issue with one of the very things he kind of
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Speaker 7: campaigned on as sort of a case of be careful
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Speaker 7: what you reap when you sew in terms of he
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Speaker 7: went to the election with that. You know, I'm not Trump.
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Speaker 7: Duttnears and now he needs to see Trump for Australias
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Speaker 7: in Australia's interest. So we've got the Quad meeting in
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Speaker 7: India in September. That's a no Brainer for the fact
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Speaker 7: they'll probably meet there right, hopefully they'll have a bilat
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Speaker 7: as opposed to just the meeting of four. Then he
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Speaker 7: said the PM that he wants to go the UN
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Speaker 7: gen or Assembly and address them or so in September.
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Speaker 7: So I could see that becoming one trip. But I
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Speaker 7: don't think there's any point him going to the UN
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Speaker 7: unless he's going to the White House, right, So they
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Speaker 7: need to lock that in, and Kevin Rudd's job is
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Speaker 7: to lock that in. We've now got Petty Wong over
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Speaker 7: there trying to make it happen, it seems. Then you've
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Speaker 7: got the G twenty and Apex Well, who knows how
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Speaker 7: long Donald Trump's going to go there for having just
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Speaker 7: been to the G seven with the PM. He likes
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Speaker 7: to just meet a couple of leaders he thinks are
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Speaker 7: important and leave, and we saw that with his visit
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Speaker 7: to NATO as well. He doesn't like to spend a
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Speaker 7: lot of time at the summits Donald Trump. So that's
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Speaker 7: where we've got our reshure, I think, Steve, yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 1: Think anyone wants to spend too much time at summits.
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Speaker 1: We'll get on to Kevin. My friend Kevin in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Just let's have a look at a grab where you
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Speaker 1: refer to the TV breakfast shows and the way the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister his mood is really cranky when this comes up.
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Speaker 1: Have a look. Are you just kind of morning that
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Speaker 1: kicking yourself and not getting on that plane to Washington
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Speaker 1: to meet Trump earlier?
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Speaker 3: Not at all, Nat, I've had my priorities right.
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Speaker 9: The president was actually elected last November. You've had plenty
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Speaker 9: of time before our own election to actually visit him.
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Speaker 9: Are you now looking at this and thinking it was
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Speaker 9: a mistake to leave it this late?
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Speaker 3: No, a little bit embarrassing. Hasn't that pretty simple question?
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Speaker 9: When are you going to meet the Donald?
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Speaker 3: Not at all? Look where we'll meet when we meet
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Speaker 3: in coming months.
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Speaker 1: We tries to laugh at off Andrew, but a minute,
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Speaker 1: it is become increasingly embarrassing. I mean, those shows have
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Speaker 1: got reasonable audiences, and so the Australian public, who were
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Speaker 1: probably never engaged in this sort of thing, don't really
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Speaker 1: understand why it's so important to meet Donald Trump. Now
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Speaker 1: go well, heck, come, Donald Trump, who you know won
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Speaker 1: a substantial majority in the election in the United States,
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Speaker 1: Why doesn't he want to see our prime Minister, aren't
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Speaker 1: the Americans our friends? I mean, it starts to get
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Speaker 1: down into those sort of weeds, doesn't it. Well, it's just.
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Speaker 7: Gritted teeth you see there. I mean, I'll bet you're
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Speaker 7: sorry he put his name up for those interviews because
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Speaker 7: how how they do them? The pms and the other
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Speaker 7: pms do it this way as well. They go, right,
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Speaker 7: we're doing all the TVs in the morning, get that
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Speaker 7: message out there and be fired everyone, which is good,
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Speaker 7: and we'll go seven forty five this station, eight PM,
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Speaker 7: eight fifteen, eight point thirty and usually we're on the
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Speaker 7: roster of that. So if you think about his experience
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Speaker 7: through them, he's just done back to backs four of
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Speaker 7: them on TV and the very first question just about
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Speaker 7: every time, and a persistent line of questioning is on
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Speaker 7: the Trump Mate. That's not what he got up for,
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Speaker 7: but that's what he got.
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Speaker 3: Well that he did.
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Speaker 1: And I suspect the F word that Donald Trump used
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Speaker 1: last week might have been used by the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: when he got offers TV interviews this morning and walk
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Speaker 1: back into his office to his advisor and said, we're
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Speaker 1: doing this.
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Speaker 7: For well, you don't know what the if you're doing,
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Speaker 7: like Donald Trump now I've got an interview at the PM.
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Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to it actually on Friday for Hour
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Speaker 7: and Sydney. So I just have to follow up all them.
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Speaker 7: And you know, I mean, the thing is, the funny
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Speaker 7: thing for me was that he has like he had
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Speaker 7: the right smile for Breakfast TV, but it was a
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Speaker 7: gritted teeth smile. Because it's like, why you guys are
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Speaker 7: about this. I get the meeting when I get the meeting,
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Speaker 7: all right. The trouble is that, for the reasons you
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Speaker 7: just said earlier, that doesn't seem to be acceptable to people.
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Speaker 7: So it's a tricky one. And I do wonder about Kevin,
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Speaker 7: if Kevin's if Kevin, you know, Kevin might not be
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Speaker 7: an impediment, but if we're looking for is there an impediment?
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Speaker 7: And you look at Rudd's previous comments about the administration
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Speaker 7: and you heard that Compolster on with Laura the other
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Speaker 7: day in Washington saying the president doesn't like him. And
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Speaker 7: you know, he was asked by Nigel Faraj about him
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Speaker 7: and he said he's not the brightest pulp. So you know,
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Speaker 7: is there a Kevin problem with this? Because Joe Hockey
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Speaker 7: was able to secure these kind of things we know that.
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Speaker 1: You know, well, the posters said, you know, we're going
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Speaker 1: to find someone that Donald Trump likes. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: didn't take me long to come up with a list,
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Speaker 1: and Kevin Rud's not on it. I mean, you've got
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Speaker 1: Anthony Pratt, You've got Gena Reinhart, You've got Joe Hockey,
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Speaker 1: You've got two golfers, Greg Norman and Adam Scott, who
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Speaker 1: actually Adam Scott has met with with the President because
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Speaker 1: he went in there with Rory McElroy to try and
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Speaker 1: sort out the live PGA problem. So you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe Alba needs to ring up Paul Murray. Even
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Speaker 1: Paul Murray got a meeting with Donald Trump, so maybe
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Speaker 1: Paul could get him in there.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Well, let's say he gets to a point where he
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Speaker 7: feels that Kevin isn't doing the job and he has
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Speaker 7: to replace him. That's going to be difficult. Kevin Ruds
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Speaker 7: a friend of his and he is not. More importantly,
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Speaker 7: perhaps he's not going to what to be seen to
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Speaker 7: be appointing ambassadors on the basis of the US telling
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Speaker 7: it us who should be ambassador, and that wouldn't look great.
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Speaker 7: So it's a bit of a pickle, and what you
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Speaker 7: might find is perhaps Kevin Rudd departs. You know, this
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Speaker 7: is total speculation from me, by the way, but I
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Speaker 7: would have thought maybe a logical thing if there is
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Speaker 7: a problem there is get that first meeting out of
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Speaker 7: the way, and then Kevin walks off into the sunset,
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Speaker 7: and we get someone else if there is a genuine
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Speaker 7: problem there. Because Donald Trump's there for three more years,
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Speaker 7: there's no avoiding that at you know, well, that's that's
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Speaker 7: the end of his term, but three years a long time.
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's the whole federal parliamentary term. We need
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Speaker 7: a relationship with our strongest ally, particularly when we're spending
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Speaker 7: three hundred and sixty eight billion dollars on submarines and
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Speaker 7: a deal that involves them.
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Speaker 1: Well, Kevin tried to run the U in while back
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Speaker 1: in got knocked back. But maybe we could have another
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Speaker 1: crack at that and get him a promotion into another
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Speaker 1: job and then slip someone in there who can deal
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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. I mean, it's extraordinary. Good luck with
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Speaker 1: that on Friday when you ask him and he comes
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Speaker 1: out with the fake smile and the grid of teeth again.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tonello is great to catch up with you, my friend.
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Speaker 7: Thanks a lot, good to see you against Steve.
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Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention to this weather event that's unfolding
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Speaker 1: off New South Wales. It's changing by the minute, changing
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Speaker 1: by the hour. The New South Wales coastline still being
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Speaker 1: lash tonight, heavy winds been problems at the airport. There's
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Speaker 1: evacuations on the central coast as I understand it, authorities
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Speaker 1: have warned that it could get worse. Let's go live
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Speaker 1: now to Crystal, who is in Woollongong, which of course
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Speaker 1: is south of Sydney. Crystal, there's been some evacuation orders already.
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Speaker 1: Residents are being hit the hardest. I think that's up
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Speaker 1: on the central coast is that right.
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Speaker 11: Central coasts Sydney and down south Hero and Wollongong. Steve,
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Speaker 11: as you can see behind me, huge droplets of rain.
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Speaker 11: It has stopped raining since last night and as our
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Speaker 11: meteorologist Rob Shark predicted, the weather system was set to
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Speaker 11: intensify this afternoon and into the evening and as you
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Speaker 11: can see behind me, strong when gusts, heavy rain the
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Speaker 11: central coasts, they have been issued evacuation orders. The SEES
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Speaker 11: is warning of coastal erosions, so residents near the coast
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Speaker 11: have been told to evacuate. There's four emergency warnings there.
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Speaker 3: Travelers today have.
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Speaker 11: Also been impacted by the wet weather system. As of
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Speaker 11: two pm today, twenty two flights coming out of Sydney
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Speaker 11: domestically have been canceled. Thirty two flights coming into Sydney
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Speaker 11: have been canceled. So many frustrated residents today uncertain about
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Speaker 11: when they will return home. This low coastal erosion expected
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Speaker 11: to continue until Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's been several thousand power outages as
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Speaker 1: well once that wind picks up. Obviously, we've had so
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Speaker 1: much rains that trees are falling onto power lines and
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Speaker 1: causing drama. So your best guests, I guess on when
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Speaker 1: this might ease up a bit or or People along
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Speaker 1: the coast set for a pretty rough night.
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Speaker 11: The rain will certainly continue throughout the night and into
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Speaker 11: the morning until at least Thursday. As you mentioned before,
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Speaker 11: a large gum tree fell onto a power line north
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Speaker 11: of Sydney today, causing multiple power outages, particularly in the
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Speaker 11: Northern Beaches area. We've seen up to one hundred and
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Speaker 11: fifty millimeters of rain, wind gusts of up to one
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Speaker 11: hundred and twenty five kilometers an hour, and that is
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Speaker 11: set to continue. The advice for residents, certainly here in
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Speaker 11: Willongong today is to stay inside. People have been told,
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Speaker 11: as you do, to not drive through flood waters and
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Speaker 11: do not travel unnecessarily tonight, Steve.
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Speaker 1: Good only Christal, You've been doing great job there today.
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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, and we'll catch you again tomorrow. I
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Speaker 1: suspect now coming up after the break, even labor luminaries
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Speaker 1: like the ex Prime Minister Paul Keating are making noises
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Speaker 1: of alarm about Jim Charmer's superannuation tax changes. Plus the
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Speaker 1: landmark court case that found Islamic hate preacher with Sam
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Speaker 1: Hadad breached racial hatred laws. I'll speak with one of
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Speaker 1: the applicants who took had On Hadad on in court
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Speaker 1: shortly welcome actually price in for Peter Kredlin. I'll get
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Speaker 1: onto that racial discrimination action in the federal court in
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Speaker 1: just a moment. But as the expression goes, a broken
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Speaker 1: clock is right twice a day, and in this instance,
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Speaker 1: that broken clock turns out to be Paul Keating. Now,
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Speaker 1: Paul's come out to cast doubt, and it's rare that
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Speaker 1: I agree with anything Paul Keating says over Labour's super
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Speaker 1: tax plan, which he warns without indexation, which is what
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Speaker 1: sensible people are calling for, the plan will capture more
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Speaker 1: young people entering the workforce right today who will accumulate
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Speaker 1: in excess of three million dollars at retirement. It's a
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Speaker 1: long way off, but he's right. Kidding's comments will put
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Speaker 1: to the Prime Minister this morning is what.
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Speaker 7: If someone who starts work today, the average worker will
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Speaker 7: end up with three million dollars in super therefore having
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Speaker 7: their unrealized gains taxed.
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Speaker 3: Well, these are very modest changes discussed. I'm nowhere, we
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Speaker 3: are right, we are right. Well, good on you.
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Speaker 2: You stay on Paul, I'll stay on superannuation. But because
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Speaker 2: he's wrong, no, I'm talking about superannuation.
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Speaker 1: Peter's right, They're not modest changes. They're actually going to
19:41
Speaker 1: tax unrealized gains. And it's not just the PM that's
19:44
Speaker 1: causing headaches for labor. It's not just ex Paol Paul
19:49
Speaker 1: Kidding PM causing headaches. A C t U Sefty selling McManus.
19:53
Speaker 1: She also said this is going to have to be
19:56
Speaker 1: indexed over time.
19:58
Speaker 12: I do think it's got to be in dext and
20:00
Speaker 12: because you've got to make sure eventually people don't end
20:02
Speaker 12: up there, but that's a very long time in the future.
20:05
Speaker 12: I think that asking you know, those people not to
20:09
Speaker 12: get you know, super isn't there to be a tax fraud.
20:11
Speaker 12: It's here to make sure you've got a dignified retirement.
20:15
Speaker 1: I've talked to former Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl about
20:17
Speaker 1: this before he's back with us. It's not often I
20:21
Speaker 1: say this, you know about Paul Keating, but he's right
20:24
Speaker 1: in this instance. His need to say, unrealized gains indexation
20:28
Speaker 1: are the two things that you need to look at
20:31
Speaker 1: and potentially change in this legislation.
20:35
Speaker 13: Hi, Steve, thanks for having me on here.
20:37
Speaker 4: Is right.
20:38
Speaker 13: Keating was the father of superannuation, as you know, and
20:41
Speaker 13: I think he rightly sees that this ill conceived tax
20:45
Speaker 13: is a threat to the integrity and public confidence in
20:49
Speaker 13: the future of the superannuation system.
20:53
Speaker 1: Extraordinarily. I mean, you know, Paul Keating, you would think
20:57
Speaker 1: would back the government, you'd Anthony Alberinezi speaks to him.
21:02
Speaker 1: But why does Jim Charmers and the Prime Minister. Are
21:06
Speaker 1: they so desperate for money, David that they simply refused
21:10
Speaker 1: to change this or are they running it right up
21:13
Speaker 1: to the line and then at the last minute they're
21:16
Speaker 1: going to either cave on indexation or an unrealized gains
21:20
Speaker 1: or both.
21:23
Speaker 13: Well, I'm not sure that the Prime Minister's on board
21:25
Speaker 13: with his proposal. I suspect he's defending his Treasurer Jim Charmers.
21:30
Speaker 13: It seems to me Steve is completely isolated on this.
21:33
Speaker 13: Paul Keating opposes it. Even the Greens are proposing that
21:37
Speaker 13: this be indexed. Sallly McManus is saying this should be indexed,
21:40
Speaker 13: and Bill Kelty opposes it as well. I suspect many
21:44
Speaker 13: members of Jim Charmer's caucus think it's a terrible idea
21:47
Speaker 13: as well. So this is being set up as a
21:50
Speaker 13: potential for for Jim Charmers, and I think what the
21:53
Speaker 13: Prime Minister has to do is show real leadership and
21:56
Speaker 13: at some point put his Treasurer out of his misery.
22:01
Speaker 1: One of the things that worries me about this, David,
22:03
Speaker 1: is that Labor have got to deal with the Greens
22:04
Speaker 1: to get anything through the Senate. In fact, they can
22:07
Speaker 1: pass anything they want through the Senate if the Greens agree. Now,
22:12
Speaker 1: the Greens want the level of where this doubling of
22:16
Speaker 1: the tax from fifteen to thirty percent kicks in brought
22:19
Speaker 1: down to two million. I mean, if Charmers agree with
22:22
Speaker 1: the Greens to do that, and then he gets his
22:26
Speaker 1: way on unrealized gains and indexation, that's even worse for Australians.
22:32
Speaker 1: That's where we could end up.
22:35
Speaker 13: That's where we could end up. This tax was seen
22:38
Speaker 13: by Jim Chalmers and his captive Treasury department has soaked
22:43
Speaker 13: the rich exercise. Treasury has a visceral resentment towards self
22:48
Speaker 13: managed super funds. When I was a Treasury employer and
22:50
Speaker 13: I was in the department for over twenty years, I
22:53
Speaker 13: always saw it and I could never quite understand it.
22:55
Speaker 13: There's nothing wrong with somebody managing their own superannuation fund.
23:00
Speaker 13: There we have it, and Paul Keating has correctly seen
23:03
Speaker 13: this as a threat to public confidence and superannuation system.
23:08
Speaker 13: It's not a tax just that will apply to the
23:10
Speaker 13: so called rich Steve. It's going to apply to the many.
23:13
Speaker 13: As Paul Keating pointed out, a young person entering the
23:16
Speaker 13: workforce today, earning no more than average wages over their
23:20
Speaker 13: lifetime will have accumulated more than three million dollars of saving.
23:25
Speaker 13: So it's a tax that will ultimately affect the many,
23:27
Speaker 13: not the few.
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Speaker 1: And eventually Keating got his way because your compulsory taxation
23:34
Speaker 1: level on your salary hit twelve percent today July one.
23:38
Speaker 1: So younger people are in SUPER. You know, I was
23:44
Speaker 1: a way journal before superstarted. It's now twelve percent. They
23:48
Speaker 1: will get to three million if you're in a workforce
23:50
Speaker 1: at twenty hour and you're putting twelve percent of your salary.
23:53
Speaker 1: And I must say, David again, I was staggered today
23:56
Speaker 1: listening to talk about radio how ignorant a lot of
23:58
Speaker 1: people are about what SUPER is, whether they're paying it
24:01
Speaker 1: on top of their salary package, or whether the salary sacrificing.
24:04
Speaker 1: Still people don't understand it. But we're now at twelve percent.
24:08
Speaker 1: That's a substantial saving which is forced upon people by law.
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Speaker 13: It is for savings, and I'm not comfortable any compulsion
24:18
Speaker 13: in our system. I think people are sensible enough to
24:21
Speaker 13: provision for their own retirement. I think it's a scandal
24:25
Speaker 13: that we have twelve percent of people's incomes controlled by
24:29
Speaker 13: union dominated funds with employee employer representatives as well the
24:34
Speaker 13: funds and the commission, the fees and the commissions that
24:36
Speaker 13: these funds charge are exorbitant, and there doesn't seem to
24:41
Speaker 13: be any accountability. So I think it's remarkable. Can I
24:43
Speaker 13: just say something about Sally McManus. I think it's wonderful
24:47
Speaker 13: that she's drawing attention to the bracket creep inherent in
24:50
Speaker 13: Jim Chalmer's superneration proposal when she calls for this three
24:53
Speaker 13: million dollars to be index Why doesn't she do the
24:56
Speaker 13: same with the non indexation of our personal tax scales.
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Speaker 13: Millions of union members in Australia and everybody else is
25:03
Speaker 13: hit by bracket creep every year as they're pushed further
25:05
Speaker 13: into higher tax brackets, and Salim mcmanuson the union movement,
25:10
Speaker 13: who supposedly represent the interests of workers who work hard
25:13
Speaker 13: through the Fair Work Commission to get higher wages, are
25:16
Speaker 13: quite happy to see Canberra skim off those through bracket creep.
25:20
Speaker 13: I just think it's a scandal that she's silent about
25:23
Speaker 13: a far bigger tax impost working people.
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Speaker 1: That's an excellent point. A big anniversary today. Did you
25:30
Speaker 1: have a celebratory lunch? July two thousand, we suddenly introduced
25:36
Speaker 1: the GST. It's been twenty five years. Who would have thought,
25:39
Speaker 1: seems like it's been there forever.
25:43
Speaker 13: Well, it's quite interesting because I remember the Labor Party
25:46
Speaker 13: opposing tooth and nail bringing in the GST. And of
25:49
Speaker 13: course the GST was a new tax, and that's never welcome,
25:52
Speaker 13: but people forget that it paid for at least help
25:56
Speaker 13: pay for massive personal in hume tax cuts. It was
25:59
Speaker 13: genuine and tax reform was a shift from taxing incomes
26:03
Speaker 13: and savings to taxing consumption, which is what all economists,
26:07
Speaker 13: which is what Treasury traditionally has supported. The Labor Party
26:10
Speaker 13: opposed it until it became part of our system, and
26:13
Speaker 13: now they're in favor of it. So the point I'd
26:16
Speaker 13: make Steve and to your listeners is that owing to
26:19
Speaker 13: Bracker creep, those big personal income tax cuts that came
26:23
Speaker 13: with the GST have been eroded away. We now rely
26:26
Speaker 13: on income tax to raise almost fifty percent of all
26:30
Speaker 13: the revenue Howard brought it down when he introduced the GST.
26:34
Speaker 13: It's all been e roaded away. So we're back where
26:36
Speaker 13: we were with a GST and income tax burdens that
26:40
Speaker 13: date back from before the GST was introduced. The taxpayer
26:43
Speaker 13: losers either.
26:44
Speaker 1: Way, of course, we do excellent points, David, thank you
26:48
Speaker 1: to joining us again. I'll see you soon. Now to
26:51
Speaker 1: that landmark federal called ruling today and now people have
26:54
Speaker 1: been watching this with a huge interest. It found that
26:57
Speaker 1: Muslim cleric we Sam had had had breached the Racial
27:01
Speaker 1: Discrimination Act, simple as that he delivered sermons that included
27:05
Speaker 1: quote fundamentally racist and anti Semitic statements about Jewish people.
27:11
Speaker 1: That's from the judge. In these sermons, mister Haddad described
27:15
Speaker 1: Jews as quote wicked, scheming and descendants of apes and pigs,
27:20
Speaker 1: just as Anger Stewart was adamant in this finding, Proceedings
27:24
Speaker 1: were launched against mister Haddad by the Executive Council of
27:28
Speaker 1: Australian Jury. Deputy President Robert Goot joins me. Now, I
27:32
Speaker 1: saw you outside the court today with Peter Worththime. I
27:35
Speaker 1: thought you both explained the reason why you took this
27:39
Speaker 1: action and how pleased you were with the outcome today.
27:43
Speaker 1: I thought you explained it excellently. How do you feel
27:46
Speaker 1: about it? A few hours later?
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Speaker 10: Thanks Steve. We still feel very very much vindicated that
27:57
Speaker 10: we took the action. Steve, you know that immediately after
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Speaker 10: October seven, twenty twenty three.
28:07
Speaker 3: Jews.
28:07
Speaker 10: Within days, Jews were vilified, including by the hate preacher
28:13
Speaker 10: mister Hadad, and nothing happened. We had hoped that the
28:21
Speaker 10: authorities would take action under the then existing laws to
28:27
Speaker 10: protect the Jewish community from this hate speech. They did not,
28:32
Speaker 10: and so we decided we would do it, and the
28:34
Speaker 10: only avenue that we could proceed under was the Racial
28:40
Speaker 10: Discrimination Act. We did so. We did so with the
28:45
Speaker 10: view of protecting the community, keeping them safe and safeguarding
28:54
Speaker 10: there and promoting their honor and integrity. And we were
28:58
Speaker 10: vidicated today by honor in the judgment which, as you
29:01
Speaker 10: have said, found that mister described mister Haddud's speeches as
29:09
Speaker 10: fundamentally racist and anti Semitic, and that they they were
29:17
Speaker 10: profoundly offensive and of course unlawful. So we are well
29:24
Speaker 10: satisfied that in taking the action we were vindicated, and
29:28
Speaker 10: hopefully people vilifying any group on the basis of their
29:38
Speaker 10: religion or ethnic background, such as the Jewish community of Australia,
29:44
Speaker 10: will not be able to do so with impunity.
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Speaker 1: Again, Robert, as you know here on Sky we have
29:54
Speaker 1: been very strong in our defense of this a Jewish
30:00
Speaker 1: community and very critical of the rise of anti Semitism,
30:03
Speaker 1: which should worry all of us in hindsight. How let
30:08
Speaker 1: down do you feel about what the police and the
30:11
Speaker 1: politicians did in regard to Hadad and forcing you to
30:15
Speaker 1: have to find the money to go to court and
30:18
Speaker 1: actually go through the court process.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's not so much, Steve, a matter of what
30:24
Speaker 10: they did. It's a matter of what they did not do.
30:29
Speaker 10: There was no attempt, as far as we know anywhere
30:34
Speaker 10: in any Australian jurisdiction to bring to book or to
30:38
Speaker 10: attempt to bring to book any of the individuals, including Hadad,
30:47
Speaker 10: who had egregiously vilified the Jewish community from the eighth
30:54
Speaker 10: of October onwards and continue to do so. We felt
31:01
Speaker 10: let down. We weren't expecting that they would necessarily win
31:07
Speaker 10: a case, but we felt that they had no reason
31:13
Speaker 10: not to attempt to test their laws, because otherwise the
31:19
Speaker 10: laws are a dead letter. Of course, since that time
31:22
Speaker 10: the laws have been amended in Victoria, in New South
31:25
Speaker 10: Wales and at the Commonwealth level, but again they haven't
31:29
Speaker 10: been utilized for any hate speech offenses.
31:36
Speaker 1: Hadads lawyer set out outside the court that his clients
31:39
Speaker 1: sermons were never intended to insult any group in Australia
31:42
Speaker 1: based on their ethnic identity. Do you obviously disagree with that?
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Speaker 10: Yes, that's a nonsense. Firstly, it was one just has
31:54
Speaker 10: to read the speeches which are reproduced in the judgment
31:57
Speaker 10: of course, to realize that that is just nonsense. And
32:02
Speaker 10: then there is this apparent distinction between ethnic Jews and
32:09
Speaker 10: Jews of faith which mister Haddud seeks to rely on.
32:15
Speaker 10: No such distinction was to be found in any of
32:19
Speaker 10: the speeches. And more importantly, the judge rejected that entire proposition,
32:26
Speaker 10: and he did so because mister Haddud's own expert on
32:32
Speaker 10: the religion of Islam did not support that proposition. As
32:38
Speaker 10: the judge noted, Scheh Ibrahim, who was the expert called
32:44
Speaker 10: by mister hadd said that quote Islam does not encourage
32:50
Speaker 10: hatred towards Jews, I mean the direct opposite of that
32:56
Speaker 10: which mister Hadud was trying to explain away. After the decision,
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Speaker 10: well done on your court victory.
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Speaker 1: It was something that needed to be done. And congratulations
33:08
Speaker 1: to you and the Australian Council of Jury for going
33:11
Speaker 1: through that court process. Robert Goot, appreciate your time. Thank
33:14
Speaker 1: you very much for making yourself available tonight coming up
33:18
Speaker 1: after the break. How complicit has the West become? Speaking
33:23
Speaker 1: of anti Semitism, ugly hate, fuel chance ringing out at
33:26
Speaker 1: one of the world's most popular music festivals, and plus
33:30
Speaker 1: salty language for the Victorian Premier this week? So why
33:34
Speaker 1: are more politicians swearing to make their point? The panel
33:38
Speaker 1: of join us shortly welcome back to the Price with
33:45
Speaker 1: you all week, filling in for Peter Kredlin. We'll have
33:46
Speaker 1: our panel up shortly. The more you see the audience
33:50
Speaker 1: hysteria at that Glastonbury Music Festival in the UK, all
33:54
Speaker 1: of this chanting death to the IDF, I think the
33:57
Speaker 1: more disturbing it is when you first saw it. I mean,
34:00
Speaker 1: you could argue that it was a bunch of watered
34:03
Speaker 1: and probably over drugged youngsters sucked into some no name
34:06
Speaker 1: rapper's idea of a protest, but it was a lot
34:09
Speaker 1: more than that. I think you can't ignore the fact
34:12
Speaker 1: that the message was intended to rally the call for
34:15
Speaker 1: the death of Jewish soldiers. Now, of course, some of
34:17
Speaker 1: the biggest music festivals in the world have undoubtedly been
34:21
Speaker 1: used as platforms for political statements right through history, all
34:26
Speaker 1: the way back to the nineteen sixties, probably earlier, but
34:28
Speaker 1: it could certainly be argued that this is the first
34:30
Speaker 1: time such direct hatred has been trumpeted from a stage
34:35
Speaker 1: and echoed by an audience. It begs the question and
34:38
Speaker 1: a number of questions, not just around accountability, but whether
34:41
Speaker 1: the West is becoming complicit in the rising tide of
34:44
Speaker 1: anti Semitism. I know that's a hard question to ask.
34:47
Speaker 1: Joining me now to discuss this issue, Author commentator Anscote,
34:50
Speaker 1: News contributor An Hersey Ali, good to see you again.
34:54
Speaker 1: You've written about this in a piece for Courage Media.
34:58
Speaker 1: You argue that culture, true cohesion is at risk, and
35:02
Speaker 1: that a chat like this so willingly from a chance,
35:05
Speaker 1: I should say, from thousands of music revelers, is really
35:08
Speaker 1: a warning. Can you dig down into that and explain that?
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Speaker 3: For me?
35:16
Speaker 4: Sadly, I have to say it is becoming mainstream. I
35:20
Speaker 4: said it a few months ago. Hatred against Jews is
35:25
Speaker 4: being means streamed. It is being used as a you know,
35:30
Speaker 4: Zionism and Israel and this and that. But if you
35:34
Speaker 4: look at if you watch very closely what you're seeing,
35:39
Speaker 4: don't focus on the rapper or the artist, look at
35:43
Speaker 4: the audience. The audience is shared by this. The blood
35:50
Speaker 4: label against Jews is off, like off the charts. Things
35:56
Speaker 4: we weren't allowed to think or say thirty years ago,
36:01
Speaker 4: twenty years ago are now being openly celebrated. It's the BBC. Gosh,
36:09
Speaker 4: I grew up with the BBC. I thought the BBC
36:12
Speaker 4: used to be sort of the source of old truth.
36:16
Speaker 4: And that's what's the brand the BBC is for most
36:19
Speaker 4: of the world is this is the source of old truth.
36:23
Speaker 4: And they're channeling anti Semitism. And so I think, I
36:30
Speaker 4: think we have a problem. And I'm you asked me, like,
36:35
Speaker 4: can you explain this to us? And it is we
36:38
Speaker 4: have mainstreamed hatred against Jews. We have mainstreamed antisemitism. It
36:45
Speaker 4: is now mainstream and we need to get we need
36:50
Speaker 4: to reckon with that. How did we get here?
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Speaker 1: Well, and I mean since October seven, I mean on
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Speaker 1: October right on the steps of the Sydney Opera House,
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Speaker 1: one of the most famous buildings in the world. You
37:03
Speaker 1: had people there chanting, you know if the Jews. Some
37:07
Speaker 1: people suggest there was gas. The Jews said as well,
37:11
Speaker 1: and so it started from there, and like in the UK,
37:15
Speaker 1: in every major capital city of Australia, almost every weekend
37:20
Speaker 1: since you've had people marching through the streets of these
37:23
Speaker 1: cities carrying Palestinian flags and giving support to people like Hamas.
37:33
Speaker 1: And now you know, we shouldn't be surprised. I suppose
37:35
Speaker 1: that it ends up at a music festival like that,
37:39
Speaker 1: it's shocking, but after what twenty more or more months,
37:43
Speaker 1: it shouldn't surprise us, should it.
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Speaker 4: It should alarm us, it should appall us. October seven,
37:52
Speaker 4: twenty twenty.
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Speaker 3: Look, it was.
37:57
Speaker 4: A music festival. These were kids were celebrating, and I
38:01
Speaker 4: think most of them are actually peace necks. Most of
38:04
Speaker 4: the victims of October seven were peace necks. And here
38:10
Speaker 4: we have, like every summer, we have these festivals. I think,
38:20
Speaker 4: I hate to say this to you, but if Hamas
38:24
Speaker 4: were to be released into Glastonbury, the kids who were
38:31
Speaker 4: shouting what they were shouting would be slaughtered. Okay, the
38:35
Speaker 4: women would be raped. They would make no excuses for
38:42
Speaker 4: grandmothers or young people. This is what you would see.
38:49
Speaker 4: And here is the horror of it all is that
38:52
Speaker 4: it is in Glastonbury. Someone told me you have to
38:56
Speaker 4: pay four hundred pounds to get into Alassenburg. So this
39:01
Speaker 4: is middle class, upper middle class British people, and this
39:05
Speaker 4: is what they're listening to, and this is what they're
39:07
Speaker 4: all about, and they don't have what Israel has, which
39:11
Speaker 4: is what Israel has is kill the IDEF, Kill the IDF.
39:18
Speaker 4: The IDF is a military that understands the problem that
39:24
Speaker 4: it's faced with. But Britain, Australia, Canada, the United States,
39:28
Speaker 4: we don't understand these people. My whole life has been
39:34
Speaker 4: about trying to make you understand about what is going on.
39:38
Speaker 3: Today.
39:39
Speaker 4: It is about the Jews. Tomorrow it's about you. Okay,
39:44
Speaker 4: this guy who's shouting kill, kill the IDF is going
39:48
Speaker 4: to kill, kill the white people, kill, kill Christianity, kill,
39:53
Speaker 4: kill women. It's all happening. I'm sorry. I wish I
39:58
Speaker 4: had better news for you, but this is what's happening.
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Speaker 4: And we have mainstream. If we mainstream hatred against Jews,
40:06
Speaker 4: we mainstream hatred against ourselves, against Western civilization, because Western
40:12
Speaker 4: civilization is based on the Judeo Christian principles and this
40:18
Speaker 4: is what we are up against. It is not gosh,
40:23
Speaker 4: how do I say this. It's not against human beings
40:27
Speaker 4: against other human beings, obviously we all know that, but
40:31
Speaker 4: it is it's a way of life versus a way
40:35
Speaker 4: of life, a story versus a story. The story we're
40:39
Speaker 4: facing today is the story of destruction, the story of killing,
40:45
Speaker 4: the story of eliminating people. That story is mainstream in
40:52
Speaker 4: Britain and Europe, in America. Okay, that's my takeaway from Glastonbury.
41:00
Speaker 4: You have young people who went to there to revel
41:03
Speaker 4: and two years ago there were young people were reveling
41:07
Speaker 4: in the Nova Festival.
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Speaker 1: They were absolutely right. Your assessment is one hundred percent correct.
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Speaker 1: D thank you as usual for your assessment. It's brilliant.
41:17
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Coming up
41:20
Speaker 1: as a Victorian teachers rally for a pay rise staggered
41:23
Speaker 1: over three years just to get on par with other states,
41:27
Speaker 1: other teachers around the country. The premier to center allan
41:29
Speaker 1: or she becomes the highest paid premier in the country,
41:31
Speaker 1: pulling in more than half a million dollars a year.
41:35
Speaker 1: Our panel, we'll discuss that up next. Welcome bad More
41:42
Speaker 1: of words is erupted between two of Australia's largest states,
41:45
Speaker 1: Queensland and Victoria, about the distribution of GST. Every year
41:49
Speaker 1: we have these argument between the states. The Victorian premier,
41:52
Speaker 1: the overpaid Premier of Victoria is now on over five
41:55
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year branding comments by Queensland Treasurer
41:59
Speaker 1: David Jensky quote complete bull dust. Now I've softened the
42:04
Speaker 1: language there, but issues.
42:06
Speaker 12: Let me put it in language in a way that
42:09
Speaker 12: the coins line Treasurer can understand.
42:11
Speaker 1: It's just pulled right, swearing a well here to discuss IPO.
42:16
Speaker 1: Senior fellow and chief economist Adam Crichton and Scone should
42:20
Speaker 1: contribute to Terry balms. Gentlemen, Welcome to you both. Adam,
42:26
Speaker 1: what's it with senior politicians swear? I mean, well, Donald
42:29
Speaker 1: Trump did it.
42:30
Speaker 2: Well.
42:30
Speaker 14: Look, I think it's actually helped Donald Trump's favorability ratings.
42:34
Speaker 14: I understand, and I understand that.
42:36
Speaker 3: I think occasionally it can.
42:37
Speaker 14: Work when the politician feels very strongly about a particularly
42:41
Speaker 14: important issue, and I think that's that was certaificase with
42:43
Speaker 14: Donald Trump. Whether it's justified in the case of GST
42:47
Speaker 14: is another question, but you know, to the Treasurer and
42:49
Speaker 14: the Premier's defense, the GST carve up is a very
42:52
Speaker 14: big issue. It's talking about billions of dollars here. The
42:56
Speaker 14: question of whether Victoria is justified in you know, in
42:59
Speaker 14: basically receiving millians more. I don't.
43:00
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that.
43:02
Speaker 14: The problem with the current, the current carve up and
43:05
Speaker 14: I side with the with the Queensland.
43:07
Speaker 1: The problem with well based on population.
43:10
Speaker 14: No, No, it's certainly not. There's an extremely complicated formula
43:13
Speaker 14: that you know, you're basically need a PhD to understand.
43:16
Speaker 14: And and the reality is that states like Victoria benefit
43:20
Speaker 14: from not using their resource their resources. So so all
43:24
Speaker 14: the gas reserves in Victoria are basically sealed up. And
43:27
Speaker 14: so that's why there there's a greater transfer from Queensland
43:30
Speaker 14: to Victoria because Queensland is using its coal reserves and
43:32
Speaker 14: there's been a boom in various royalties for coal, and
43:35
Speaker 14: so the federal government is wisdom says, oh, well, we
43:38
Speaker 14: need to transfer money to Victoria. And so I understand
43:40
Speaker 14: the anger of the Queensland government and there needs to
43:42
Speaker 14: be a change in the formula.
43:44
Speaker 3: Uh.
43:44
Speaker 14: And what I would recommend the Queensland government is they
43:47
Speaker 14: should do a review and whether or not they should
43:49
Speaker 14: turn off the interconnector basically for electricity between Queensland and
43:53
Speaker 14: the Southern States.
43:54
Speaker 3: That would that would that would scare.
43:57
Speaker 14: The Southern States a little bit.
43:58
Speaker 1: And I'd never think quite an argument about how the
44:02
Speaker 1: mining royalties on gas because the gas is locked away,
44:05
Speaker 1: we just then ask the federal government for more money
44:08
Speaker 1: and don't lie on mining ruleis I mean, we've got
44:10
Speaker 1: the worst debt in the country by a million miles.
44:14
Speaker 1: WA has got a budget suitlus because it gets all
44:16
Speaker 1: the mining royal.
44:17
Speaker 8: That's right, and it's the most inefficient and incompetent government
44:20
Speaker 8: the country as well as look at look at all
44:21
Speaker 8: the boondoggle projects that they're trying to actually pay for
44:25
Speaker 8: over budget and over time. I like the suburban railroap
44:28
Speaker 8: for instance, Why should Queensland, Why should anybody outside Victoria
44:31
Speaker 8: have to subsidize that's of stupidity.
44:34
Speaker 1: Ste Well, they shouldn't. And I mean that's a really
44:36
Speaker 1: good argument because people into state A that wouldn't know
44:38
Speaker 1: what the suburban rail loop is. B they would never
44:41
Speaker 1: use it. I mean, forget about people in the state.
44:43
Speaker 1: People in regional Victoria are never going to use it.
44:46
Speaker 1: Now it's do I want to go from children to box?
44:49
Speaker 14: Of course, it's about you know, it's about creating highways,
44:51
Speaker 14: jobs for CFMAU workers. That's what it's about. Because this
44:54
Speaker 14: state that we're currently sitting in is you know, it's
44:56
Speaker 14: basically corrupt and it's run by the CFMAU and.
45:00
Speaker 1: Program is about and you know, I drive past one
45:02
Speaker 1: of those suburban rail construction zones in the southeast and
45:06
Speaker 1: all the cranes have got CFMAU flags flying flags.
45:09
Speaker 14: They black flags, they're pirate flags, They're pirate flags.
45:13
Speaker 1: Basically, speaking of Victoria, the truth telling process that's ended
45:16
Speaker 1: up in division, You've got this thing called the europ
45:19
Speaker 1: Justice Commission refusing to endorse the findings in a final report.
45:22
Speaker 1: This is a big split. But Terry, yesterday we had
45:25
Speaker 1: the news broken that Cindra Allen is quite determined to
45:29
Speaker 1: go ahead with establishing a Voice to the Victorian Parliament,
45:32
Speaker 1: even though fifty six percent of Victorians said we don't
45:35
Speaker 1: know to the voice referendum.
45:38
Speaker 8: Look, this is the state of Daniel Andrews, isn't it, Steve.
45:40
Speaker 8: I mean, basically democracy went out the window in twenty twenty.
45:43
Speaker 8: It hasn't come back yet. But when it comes to
45:45
Speaker 8: this Victorian Voice, I mean, yeah, she's disregarding the will
45:50
Speaker 8: of the people. She's disregarding consulting with the people. Oh,
45:53
Speaker 8: she's consulting with a few activists. This europe Truth Commission
45:56
Speaker 8: is basically the truth of those activists. It's not necessarily
46:00
Speaker 8: the truth of Victorian Aboriginal people in general. And now
46:03
Speaker 8: they're tossing about words like genocide and all sorts of things,
46:06
Speaker 8: and they seem to be split. But I don't know
46:09
Speaker 8: from what we're hearing whether they're split between oh, you've
46:12
Speaker 8: got going over the top or you're not going over
46:14
Speaker 8: the top enough. But the bottom line is activists have
46:16
Speaker 8: their own minds, their own interpretation the view of the world.
46:20
Speaker 8: But ordinary people, ordinary Victorians, just don't deserve this. And
46:25
Speaker 8: to have another like a bastard child plunked into our constitution,
46:30
Speaker 8: I just think is beyond the payoff.
46:32
Speaker 1: You've got thirty three people at him sitting on an
46:35
Speaker 1: Aboriginal forum that are elected every three years. They're being
46:39
Speaker 1: paid each over one hundred thousand dollars. That's thirty three
46:44
Speaker 1: people just to sit around and meet. And then you've
46:48
Speaker 1: got a document that was drawn up by Daniel Andrews
46:52
Speaker 1: that he's funded with sixty five million dollars for people
46:55
Speaker 1: to talk about the truth. I mean, there's a bloke
46:58
Speaker 1: who marched from Portland to Melbourn some of the comments
47:01
Speaker 1: that he made when he reached the parliament House in Melbourne,
47:04
Speaker 1: which he's talking about rivers running red with blood.
47:08
Speaker 14: But you know what I would say to be optimistic,
47:10
Speaker 14: this is an incredible opportunity for the opposition here in
47:12
Speaker 14: this state. Why are they not seizing on this?
47:15
Speaker 1: How they done it?
47:16
Speaker 14: If they but it was somewhat modest. I mean, the
47:18
Speaker 14: opposition leader should be out there very aggressive on this
47:21
Speaker 14: saying that we are not going to put up for
47:22
Speaker 14: this sort of division because of the voice referendum. We
47:24
Speaker 14: have the votes, we have the numbers, but it's just
47:27
Speaker 14: not strong enough because they're too distracted by their own
47:29
Speaker 14: internal squabbling as we know. But you know, the positive
47:32
Speaker 14: lining is that if there's going to be a change
47:34
Speaker 14: of government in this state, you know, it's it's stupid
47:37
Speaker 14: actions like this from labor in this state that that
47:40
Speaker 14: could end government to the coalition.
47:42
Speaker 8: If they can take actually take it up, if they
47:44
Speaker 8: have the guts to do it.
47:45
Speaker 1: So we read all this and then we find out
47:47
Speaker 1: today that Cindra Allen's the most highly paid premiere in
47:50
Speaker 1: the country. She's on five hundred and thirteen thousand dollars
47:54
Speaker 1: with a sixty five thousand dollars on top of that,
47:58
Speaker 1: you know for other things, cars offices.
48:00
Speaker 3: Well it's a lot more than that.
48:01
Speaker 4: This.
48:01
Speaker 14: Premiers don't pay for their lunches and their dinners. They
48:03
Speaker 14: pay none of their running costs. So it's probably more
48:05
Speaker 14: like seven hundred thousand dollars if we're being honest. But look,
48:07
Speaker 14: it's a difficult issue because the Premier Victoria is an
48:10
Speaker 14: important role. You want to attract the right people and
48:12
Speaker 14: so forth. I think it's probably well, I certainly have it,
48:16
Speaker 14: and that is a very good point. But the fact
48:19
Speaker 14: that she's earning probably the equivalent of the US presidents
48:22
Speaker 14: must raise some questions.
48:24
Speaker 1: Well, she's the second highest paid politician in the country
48:27
Speaker 1: after the prom.
48:28
Speaker 14: She certainly earns more than the British Prime Minister, much much.
48:31
Speaker 1: More, which is ridiculous. I mean, seriously, thank you both
48:34
Speaker 1: for coming. Appreciate it very much.
48:36
Speaker 14: Thanks.
48:36
Speaker 1: I'll be back for Peter Kreedlin again tomorrow night. Coming
48:40
Speaker 1: up next, James McPherson is filling in for Andrew Bolt
48:44
Speaker 1: and I'm going to have a very special guest, I
48:45
Speaker 1: hope on the program tomorrow night to talk about how
48:48
Speaker 1: to get a meeting with Donald Trump.