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Speaker 1: It is Thursday May. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and
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Speaker 1: now America's raining Animal Crossing Champion Jay Peace. I have
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Speaker 1: no idea what that means, but welcome into Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Its Thursday May twenty one. J. P. Shaddick from the
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Speaker 1: Palatial Home Studio Side Sports Extra Room. Yet again, we're
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Speaker 1: two months in and it could be a little longer
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Speaker 1: while we're doing the show here. We've got plenty of
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Speaker 1: show ahead today. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lackerman coming up shortly.
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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osier will break down his podcast this
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Speaker 1: week featuring Paul pas Leslie a little bit more, and
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Speaker 1: we'll hear from CBS sports play by play announcer I
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Speaker 1: An Eagle. He's also the Thursday night football announcer on
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Speaker 1: West with One with Tony Boselli. He is also an
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Speaker 1: announcer for the NBA on T n T. He is
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Speaker 1: also an announcer for the Brooklyn Nets on television, so
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Speaker 1: he has a multi faceted approach to what's going on
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Speaker 1: right now, NBA, NFL, Radio, TV, All the rest will
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Speaker 1: here from Iron coming up. So a good show coming
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Speaker 1: up today. Glad you have chosen to join us on
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Speaker 1: tinton A m in Jacksonville and on the Jaguars social
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Speaker 1: media channels. The podcast archive coming up a little bit
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Speaker 1: later as well. Let's go to the phone line and
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Speaker 1: welcome in our co host, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghuman. Good afternoon,
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Speaker 1: Jeff KP. It's like Iron Eagle, Inc. That'd be the
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Speaker 1: best way to call him, right, pretty much, He's everywhere.
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Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to be, right. I build
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Speaker 1: the brand, and the brand keeps building, you know. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's he's Uh, he's a good guy too, you know. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, we we get to come across a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys in the business that are broadcast stirs, are
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Speaker 1: in the sporting industry, and and uh, he's one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite guys down earth. Works hard and has earned
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Speaker 1: everything that he's gotten and and deservedly. So he's a
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Speaker 1: very talented guy. Well here from my coming up obviously,
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Speaker 1: but I was looking through his bio and stuff the
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Speaker 1: last couple of days, and um, I've done it for
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Speaker 1: a while obviously, but I didn't realize he's been doing
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Speaker 1: NFL game since a long time. Yeah, when I was playing,
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Speaker 1: I mean when he know he was in New York
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Speaker 1: when I was up there, and so I mean me
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Speaker 1: and him crossed pass Gosh years ago. And uh and
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Speaker 1: then obviously, uh he made his name in the NFL
2:38
Speaker 1: is kind of where he got started in New York
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Speaker 1: is kind of where he really cut his teeth. And uh.
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Speaker 1: But good dude, you know, you root for guys like that,
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Speaker 1: and uh, he's gonna be around for many years to come,
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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, at some point somebody's got to
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Speaker 1: replace the Jim Nance and the and the al Michael's, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, and he's positioning himself to be that guy.
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Speaker 1: He's knocking on the door for sure. Lot going on logs,
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Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's talk a little ball. You know, I
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Speaker 1: don't even know if it's really talking ball right now.
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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of ball to be talked about
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Speaker 1: these days, obviously with the everything going virtual. But um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess the next big thing for the organization is
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Speaker 1: Phase one opening of the facility that's coming up. They
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Speaker 1: could start it, you know, last It could have started
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Speaker 1: this week, but the Jaguars have waited until May six
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Speaker 1: to start Phase one opening. It's very limited, no coaches,
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Speaker 1: no players unless they're already undergoing rehabilitation in the training room.
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Speaker 1: That's those guys have been there already, but no extra
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Speaker 1: football coaches or players are allowed. I think the limits
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Speaker 1: seventy five people, and it's going to be timed in,
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Speaker 1: timed out, checked in, temperature, in and out, one way
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Speaker 1: signs in the hallway a lot. It doesn't affect us
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Speaker 1: me and you logs will sitting at home doing the
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Speaker 1: show next week. But yeah, we don't get to go
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Speaker 1: in anyway at least just moving forward in some direction,
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Speaker 1: which is good. Yeah, we're like phase twenty, you know,
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Speaker 1: as far as like on the pecking scale of of
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Speaker 1: importance to the actual football game being played. So so
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Speaker 1: we've got a ways to wait. But but I get it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you're trying to go back to work.
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Speaker 1: You're trying to find a way to make it work.
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Speaker 1: This is unknown territory for a lot of people, and
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Speaker 1: so you're trying to minimize the risk. I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have a checkpoint even for the people that
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Speaker 1: are are allowed to go in at phase one, where
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Speaker 1: you walk up up to the door and they have
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Speaker 1: those thermometers that they can stick into your ear and
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Speaker 1: take your your core body temperature, immediately without sitting there
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Speaker 1: with you know, having to uh run the risk of
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Speaker 1: somebody shedding on somebody else by sticking a thermometer in
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Speaker 1: their mouth. I mean, there's all kinds of technology that's
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Speaker 1: going to allow them to I don't want to say,
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Speaker 1: to know for sure what's bringing into or what's coming
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Speaker 1: into the building, but at least, you know, give yourself
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Speaker 1: a fighting chance at having somewhat of a little bit
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Speaker 1: of control over it. So will this be a laser
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Speaker 1: on the forehead because they got those now, they just
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Speaker 1: pointed like they've got everything, and at some point they're
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Speaker 1: going to have to find a way to to get
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Speaker 1: testing more readily available and quicker and to where you
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Speaker 1: can you can do a test and almost immediately find
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Speaker 1: out what the answer is. So I mean, until there's
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Speaker 1: a vaccine, I mean, I just I think there's got
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Speaker 1: to be something like that to where you've got I
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Speaker 1: don't say instant gratification, but but instant information to allow
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Speaker 1: things to be able to continue. So it's going to
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Speaker 1: be a different world and that uh, you know, JP
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Speaker 1: and I can actually foresee a lot of people watching
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Speaker 1: the games obviously from the comfort of their home. I
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Speaker 1: also see the team traveling with a very limited, um
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Speaker 1: enclave of people, and it's gonna be a very tight circle.
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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of I don't want to say
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Speaker 1: ancillary personnel, but support personnel that aren't gonna be going
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Speaker 1: just because why would you risk having additional people around
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Speaker 1: your football team when you're trying to play games. So
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Speaker 1: I see us calling games from TV maybe, UM, I
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Speaker 1: see the the equipment room staff, you know, for example,
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Speaker 1: equipment guys. I mean that's probably gonna be limited to
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Speaker 1: a certain extent. Trainers, you know, obviously are very important,
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Speaker 1: so you're not gonna limit that to put your players
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Speaker 1: at risk or anything of that nature. But you know,
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Speaker 1: the sponsorship, you know, I don't see sponsorship having a
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Speaker 1: role in traveling with a football team for a while,
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Speaker 1: you know. So, uh, it's gonna be different and uh,
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Speaker 1: and that's just gonna have to be that way for
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Speaker 1: some period of time and to be able to get
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Speaker 1: the games off without any hitch. The Falcons, I believe,
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Speaker 1: one of the first wave teams this week to open
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Steelers, Texans, Colts, A few other teams partially
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Speaker 1: open this week, but the Falcons actually did um a
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Speaker 1: video on their social media channels. Rich McKay giving a
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Speaker 1: tour of the facility and how it's set up for
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Speaker 1: the return to work, which was kind of interesting. It
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Speaker 1: showed all the protocol they go through to go in.
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Speaker 1: It's something interesting to see how it works. So if
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Speaker 1: you're interested in that, take a look on the Falcons
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Speaker 1: social media pages. Now, the next trick here Logs is
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Speaker 1: how if you know there are no fans this season,
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Speaker 1: which is a possibility. If there are no fans, how
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Speaker 1: does that affect the economics of the league. And there
7:42
Speaker 1: was a great article in Forbes on on the Forbes
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Speaker 1: social media page at least this week. I didn't read
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Speaker 1: the hard copy this week. Um, Mike cosani and was
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Speaker 1: the author of this article, and he said the NFL
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Speaker 1: would lose five point five billion dollars of stadium revenue
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Speaker 1: that's taken its concession sponsors, parking, team stores. Um, if
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Speaker 1: they don't have fans this year, it's thirty eight percent
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Speaker 1: percent of total revenue. And the team that would lose
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Speaker 1: the most would be the Dallas Cowboys six one million
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Speaker 1: dollars lost out of nearly a billion dollars in revenue
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Speaker 1: through the stadium. That's a that's a lot of money.
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Speaker 1: The Jaguars, by the way, we're on his list. Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys. The reason that they would lose
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Speaker 1: the most money is that they owned stadium, you know,
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Speaker 1: so they've got the most revenuet keep or not paying
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Speaker 1: a lease or or you know, they're not splitting the
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Speaker 1: money with a tenant. Don't then there in the tenant.
8:40
Speaker 1: Don't the side note? Don't they own their own merchandising too.
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're in the merchandising pool for the NFL.
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Speaker 1: I think they have their own now they're they're in
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Speaker 1: the merchandising pool with the NFL. But Jerry Jones was
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Speaker 1: the one who really went kind of, I guess you
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Speaker 1: could say was a maverick in some ways because he
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Speaker 1: started cutting his own deal away from the NFL. In
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Speaker 1: the NFL first was very resistant to it, but then
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Speaker 1: they realized, hey, we can have league sponsorship, and then
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Speaker 1: the teams can still have their sponsorship, and then everybody's
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Speaker 1: still gonna make a lot more money, you know. So
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Speaker 1: the Jerry Jones was the one who kind of, I
9:13
Speaker 1: guess you could say, pissed a lot of people off
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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term around the league because
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Speaker 1: he had his stadium and he was able to sell
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Speaker 1: rights to the stadium even though he owned the stadium
9:22
Speaker 1: the league, and he was just some of his nose
9:24
Speaker 1: the league saying, look, I can do whatever I want
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Speaker 1: with my stadium. You know, I own my own stadium,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's that's not that's not Dallas Cowboys, Inc.
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Speaker 1: That's Texas Stadium, ink. So I can do whatever I
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Speaker 1: want there. So so he has a lot of money
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Speaker 1: to lose, certainly with the Dallas Cowboys and the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: got a pretty good deal with the city of Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: for their stadium, you know. But you always make more
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Speaker 1: money when you own the grounds that you're in when
9:47
Speaker 1: you're the landlord and the tenant, that's a lot of
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Speaker 1: money you can make. So that's that's Jerry Jones and
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Speaker 1: and he's done a really good job with his stadium
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Speaker 1: because when you go to a Cowboys game, I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is not just a football game. I mean, this
9:59
Speaker 1: is is a I don't want to say a Disneyland experience,
10:02
Speaker 1: but it's it's certainly more than a football game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's it's a tremendous facility and it's a tremendous venue
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Speaker 1: to see any kind of event at. I've still never
10:12
Speaker 1: been believe it or not, you know. And here here's
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Speaker 1: the thing, JP. I mean, the owners in the National
10:18
Speaker 1: Football League have a pretty good deal. When I say
10:21
Speaker 1: a pretty good deal, and that what other what other profession,
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Speaker 1: what other business? Do you have the ability of having
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Speaker 1: essentially a fixed set of costs to operate your business
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Speaker 1: and your guarantee a certain amount or a percentage of
10:37
Speaker 1: revenue to keep for yourself, you know. So, and what
10:41
Speaker 1: I mean by that is that, you know, the the
10:42
Speaker 1: union and the owners have an agreement to where the
10:45
Speaker 1: players get a percentage of revenue. And so if revenue
10:50
Speaker 1: goes down, then the future player share goes down. And
10:55
Speaker 1: it's a percentage directly related to overall revenues. So even
10:59
Speaker 1: though it's it's a terrible thing that the owners are
11:02
Speaker 1: not going to make as much money, and it's it's
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Speaker 1: bad for business to not make as much money, I mean,
11:06
Speaker 1: it's still better than a lot of other businesses out
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Speaker 1: there that. Look, the owners got a way of of knowing.
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Speaker 1: Look in the future, Uh, if our expenses go up
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Speaker 1: or if our revenue goes down, then uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: we have a way to off set those costs because
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Speaker 1: we're going to have a less percentage, or not a
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Speaker 1: less percentage, but a smaller amount to share with the players.
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Speaker 1: So it's a it's a unique business, and it's a
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Speaker 1: it's a successful business business. Mo I mean, that's why
11:34
Speaker 1: over the last number of years you saw how the
11:38
Speaker 1: value of franchise have risen so dramatically. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying it's because of the players agreement or the collective
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Speaker 1: bargaining agreement, but man, it's certainly nice to be able
11:46
Speaker 1: to go into a business and saying I know how
11:49
Speaker 1: much money that I have to pay my labor force
11:53
Speaker 1: and what my costs are because that is your labor
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Speaker 1: force and football as well as you know other things
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Speaker 1: that facilities and equipment and all those things. But at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I know what percentage is
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Speaker 1: going there, and therefore I know what percentages left for
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Speaker 1: me to do what I need to do and also
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Speaker 1: to take profit. Pretty good deal. Jeff Logman with US
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Analysts, Um, you know, part of that to the
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Speaker 1: revenue and the all the percentages can move and change.
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Speaker 1: So there's the talk now of this week listening to
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Speaker 1: other shows and some of the writing online that could
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Speaker 1: they trim the salary cap in future years after the revenues? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's a given. I mean,
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Speaker 1: and how does that and how does that change the
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Speaker 1: face of teams in the league. Is you going to
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Speaker 1: start trimming away player? Isn't your salary if you're way over?
12:43
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an interesting deal. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: that's that's the reality. I mean, could the league say, hey,
12:48
Speaker 1: you know, let's graduate this thing to where it's not
12:51
Speaker 1: going to be so painful to where we have to
12:53
Speaker 1: just release have a mass cutting by every team in
12:56
Speaker 1: the league. But the reality is, if that's your salary cap,
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Speaker 1: that's your salary cap based on what the the designated
13:02
Speaker 1: gross revenue or the designated revenue is. So um, that's
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Speaker 1: just I mean they look in the league, in the
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Speaker 1: in the Union, never anticipated anything like that. But if
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Speaker 1: that's what the number are, then that's what the numbers are.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's the beauty of the collective bargaining. Agreeing
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Speaker 1: From an owner standpoint, I mean, if you're the owner
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Speaker 1: and you're sitting there saying, hey, look, we got an
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Speaker 1: agreement and are overall, uh pie that we have to
13:27
Speaker 1: spend on player pool has dropped and because you and
13:30
Speaker 1: you agree to this model and now we have to
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Speaker 1: adjust the salary cap down to meet what the revenues
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Speaker 1: were or what the expected revenues are. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: that's the way it is. And so that everybody's got
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Speaker 1: to adjust and and sometimes and at some point there's
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Speaker 1: gonna be some hard pills, a swallow and tough decisions
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Speaker 1: to make. And uh, at that point you gotta make
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Speaker 1: them final. A couple of thoughts where you here logs
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Speaker 1: and I know you're a huge social media guy. We
13:57
Speaker 1: touched on that big hug. You're always on there, so
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Speaker 1: I know you saw today Gardner Minshew throwing the football
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Speaker 1: with his quarterback workout team whatever that he's working with
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Speaker 1: these days. There was a video of him throwing some
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Speaker 1: routes and running around and it looks like he's put
14:15
Speaker 1: on a little bit of muscle, which is good. And um,
14:17
Speaker 1: you know, obviously in the video he didn't throw anycompletion,
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Speaker 1: so that's positive too. You know how that goes? How
14:25
Speaker 1: how bad is it to where we are now where
14:28
Speaker 1: we're talking about Gardner Minshew has a video to h
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Speaker 1: he's working out, and it's all the rage. It's amazing,
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Speaker 1: I mean, and that's where we are, right, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's just the where where the league is with the
14:43
Speaker 1: with the current pandemic that's going on in our world
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Speaker 1: and people are starving for information and I guess that's
14:51
Speaker 1: where it's at and stuff like that. But yeah, no,
14:54
Speaker 1: good for him, and I hope that he's uh. And
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about him so much. I mean, know,
14:58
Speaker 1: you worry about certain guys I think around the league,
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Speaker 1: but he's one of those guys. I think this hard working,
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Speaker 1: self motivated, committed and you don't worry about a guy
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Speaker 1: like that. But there are some players that I can
15:08
Speaker 1: tell you in the league that I don't know a
15:10
Speaker 1: lot of guys. Well, I couldn't say any for the Jaguars,
15:13
Speaker 1: I know, because I mean you've got to kind of
15:14
Speaker 1: be into that locker room in a pretty deep way
15:17
Speaker 1: to be able to understand it. But I mean, even
15:18
Speaker 1: when I was playing, there were guys that if they
15:21
Speaker 1: didn't have the structure of an O t A or
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Speaker 1: an off season program and look at Oh dude's gonna
15:27
Speaker 1: be doing nothing but sitting on the couch eating cheetos
15:31
Speaker 1: and and eating nice drink. It sounds like a pretty
15:34
Speaker 1: good off season actually like that. Yeah, I know, JP,
15:37
Speaker 1: I know that's not the way to win a lot
15:43
Speaker 1: of ball games, though. When you got that. Hey, good stuff, Logs,
15:48
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Always way to lead off
15:50
Speaker 1: the show this week, good job. Hey, it's nice. It's
15:52
Speaker 1: nice to get ahead and get some fresh, some fresh
15:56
Speaker 1: air in the face, so to speak, instead of the
15:59
Speaker 1: backtor aft of Tony Boselli sucking all the window on
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Speaker 1: the show. He's not even on this week, you know. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he took a week off. Okay, whatever, bo Good for him,
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Speaker 1: not just giving him a hard time because it's uh,
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Speaker 1: it's always fun. It'll be fun when we can all
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Speaker 1: three get in the same room and uh and have
16:18
Speaker 1: a little friendly, friendly banter back and forth. I missed
16:21
Speaker 1: it already, Uh, Logs, we'll talk to you again soon.
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Speaker 1: But have a good one, okay, DP, Buddy, there he is.
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Speaker 1: an original. You are really good and you had one
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Speaker 1: of everybody's all time favorites paulz Losny this week. And
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Speaker 1: I found it interesting that, you know, it's tough for
22:42
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22:46
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22:51
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Speaker 1: it's hard because he's he's really locked into doing these
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Speaker 1: different things. But it seems like it can be difficult
23:15
Speaker 1: to figure out a path. Yeah. The first off, the
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23:32
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23:36
Speaker 1: just for the reason that you site he uh. I
23:40
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23:42
Speaker 1: I think it was last summer, and I was always
23:45
Speaker 1: struck by how open and how he was really sort
23:50
Speaker 1: of trying to embrace the fact that it was going
23:53
Speaker 1: to be difficult, and he he talked a little in
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Speaker 1: the podcast, which I'm sure JP you listened to, but
24:01
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24:05
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Speaker 1: be hard, because in a sense, why wouldn't it be,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you play at the level of the Paul,
24:15
Speaker 1: as he retired at thirty three, probably means he's been
24:21
Speaker 1: routine based in football for two decades. And as he said,
24:27
Speaker 1: when you play the way he does, an approach which
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24:32
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Speaker 1: It's always running through your mind. So to separate from
24:45
Speaker 1: that is very difficult, and it strikes me from having
24:50
Speaker 1: talked to him last week that he's doing it a
24:54
Speaker 1: really smart job of acknowledging it's going to be difficult,
24:58
Speaker 1: not ignoring that it going to be difficult, and eventually
25:02
Speaker 1: finding his way to what he wants to do, which,
25:06
Speaker 1: by the way, no surprise, and he didn't say this.
25:10
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not putting words in his mouth. I
25:13
Speaker 1: would be stunned if he's not coaching the next two
25:16
Speaker 1: or three years. We talked about it a little bit
25:19
Speaker 1: and he, uh, you know, he's he's working with t
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Speaker 1: A bank now he has worked as he's fascinated with
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Speaker 1: air you know, with with airplanes and did that and
25:33
Speaker 1: I he talked at the end of the podcast about
25:37
Speaker 1: how he really thinks that at first you want to
25:41
Speaker 1: get away from football, but you can tell in his
25:44
Speaker 1: voice the poll is there. He said, it's not fair
25:47
Speaker 1: to his team. We're gonna be a great player just
25:49
Speaker 1: because you mean, a great coach, just because you played.
25:52
Speaker 1: But jp you were around him, You've been around coaches players.
25:56
Speaker 1: If anybody who was a very very very good player
26:00
Speaker 1: can go be a very very good coach, it's this guy.
26:03
Speaker 1: I would be surprised. I think he head coach continued,
26:08
Speaker 1: that's that I think he'd be fantastic at it, and
26:13
Speaker 1: I think he gets back into it, he will be
26:15
Speaker 1: a rock star of the coach. There is. The stories
26:18
Speaker 1: of him around the building watching video and doing that
26:22
Speaker 1: kind of thing are pretty epic. Obviously, you know, on
26:26
Speaker 1: the regular week's worth of work, and then even after
26:30
Speaker 1: a football game, he would stay after a game and
26:33
Speaker 1: go back in the film room that afternoon that night,
26:36
Speaker 1: and yeah, he's just played the game. And even beyond that,
26:40
Speaker 1: there's an element of you know, we're not like this JP.
26:45
Speaker 1: When people are around us, they don't aspire to be us.
26:50
Speaker 1: You know, we don't lead people, you and I. But
26:55
Speaker 1: great coaches and great leaders have an element that when
26:59
Speaker 1: you're around them, you think, you know, it would be
27:03
Speaker 1: good to follow this person's leap. Well, certainly because Lesnie
27:08
Speaker 1: had that sort of an ATM. You know, he's got
27:10
Speaker 1: that element. You can see him standing in front of
27:13
Speaker 1: a room and players, you know, agree with him or not.
27:17
Speaker 1: He's the kind of person who can lead other people.
27:19
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I know that he's not quite
27:23
Speaker 1: ready to make that jump. And whatever he's committed to,
27:26
Speaker 1: whatever he's doing, he's gonna commit to it. But it
27:29
Speaker 1: feels to me like the poll is pulling him back,
27:32
Speaker 1: and I think once he does it. A lot of
27:35
Speaker 1: these coaches do that. A lot of the coaches who
27:37
Speaker 1: who played in the NFL, they take two or three
27:39
Speaker 1: years and then all right. When I was in Indy,
27:42
Speaker 1: my last couple of years in Indy, Frank Reich was
27:45
Speaker 1: a grad assistant. And it's not gratissist in the NFL,
27:48
Speaker 1: but it's like quality control case. I remember talking to
27:52
Speaker 1: him right before I left the Colts and thinking, this
27:55
Speaker 1: guy is it's gonna be honest, way I couldn't pretty
27:59
Speaker 1: could be a head coach, but it don't like that
28:01
Speaker 1: he's been away from it for a while. Then the
28:04
Speaker 1: poll comes back and uh, you know other guys trying
28:08
Speaker 1: to be really good coaches. I'd be surprised. Positivesn't that?
28:10
Speaker 1: Senior writer Jaguars dot Com John Osan joining us on
28:13
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. Let's see the owners
28:18
Speaker 1: meetings are going on. So they had a meeting I
28:20
Speaker 1: think last week or late early this week, and then
28:24
Speaker 1: they're gonna have another one next week. The Owner's tabled
28:27
Speaker 1: the resolution to incentivize hiring of minority coaches and gms
28:31
Speaker 1: that was kind of thrown out there as an idea.
28:34
Speaker 1: They tabled that idea, but later teams must now interview
28:37
Speaker 1: at least two external minority candidates for head coaching jobs
28:40
Speaker 1: and at least one for coordinator jobs, and John teams
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Speaker 1: are now prevented from blocking assistant coaches from interviewing for
28:48
Speaker 1: coordinator positions. That's also for assistant GM positions as well,
28:52
Speaker 1: So some changes there that that second part is a
28:56
Speaker 1: general change for the whole league. The interview minority candidates
29:00
Speaker 1: is as as an extension of the ruining rule of sorts.
29:04
Speaker 1: So it's obvious that the league wanted to address this
29:07
Speaker 1: in some way this offseason, and at least so far
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Speaker 1: they have. Well, you like this the idea that the
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29:17
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29:22
Speaker 1: push and look for ideas. When you're looking for an
29:23
Speaker 1: idea on how to fix this kind of a problem,
29:26
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a consensus solution and it's
29:30
Speaker 1: not gonna be an overnight solution, unfortunately. I mean, so
29:33
Speaker 1: what the league is clearly trying to do is okay.
29:36
Speaker 1: At first, when the ruining rule came around. I forget
29:38
Speaker 1: what it was, but it was that mid two thousand.
29:40
Speaker 1: It feels like because I used to talk to Tony
29:43
Speaker 1: Dungee a lot about it when I was with the
29:44
Speaker 1: Colts and he was working there, because he was a
29:46
Speaker 1: big believer in it, the fact that if if you
29:50
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29:54
Speaker 1: The hiring process is often guys get fluted one year,
29:58
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30:01
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30:04
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30:08
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30:11
Speaker 1: thinking about your name. So that's why he liked the
30:13
Speaker 1: Rooney roll, because it forced minority candidate to be interviewed,
30:19
Speaker 1: where at one time perhaps that wasn't happening. Well, that
30:22
Speaker 1: lost its momentum. So I haven't talked Tony about it,
30:26
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30:30
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30:35
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30:38
Speaker 1: that is a huge Now you're going to get more
30:44
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30:48
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30:52
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30:55
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30:59
Speaker 1: situation fixed first. So uh, this feels like a step
31:04
Speaker 1: in the right direction. But it also feels like now
31:07
Speaker 1: that they have addressed this, uh and not addressing They've
31:11
Speaker 1: been addressing it, but it's become a huge issue this offseason.
31:16
Speaker 1: My senses, the pedal will remain on the gas and
31:18
Speaker 1: you'll have more and more ideas like this being discussed
31:21
Speaker 1: over the next couple of years in the next couple
31:23
Speaker 1: off season. John Oshey with US Jaguars dot Com seen writer.
31:27
Speaker 1: It also means now that you know, since they can't
31:30
Speaker 1: block assistant they can't block assistant coaches from interviewing for
31:33
Speaker 1: coordinator positions anymore. Of the is you better have a
31:36
Speaker 1: pretty good depth chart of coaches on your roster to
31:38
Speaker 1: promote from. With that, if somebody gets picked off, yeah,
31:42
Speaker 1: and that's big for all coaches because there's a lot
31:46
Speaker 1: of There is a lot of blocking that goes on
31:50
Speaker 1: all the time, more than you hear about, I think well,
31:54
Speaker 1: and sometimes more than the coaches that don't hear about. Yeah, yeah,
31:59
Speaker 1: a team will block us and uh and I even
32:01
Speaker 1: know they got a call and uh so that's a
32:06
Speaker 1: major step forward for individuals. Uh. Again, it's the only thing.
32:12
Speaker 1: What's good for individual is not always great for the team.
32:15
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are teams that won't love that you're
32:18
Speaker 1: you're losing good assistance. But as you said, JP, it
32:21
Speaker 1: puts the pressure on continue to develop, coaches, continue to
32:24
Speaker 1: churn it. Uh. I know teams will be very upset
32:28
Speaker 1: about this, you know me, JP. I think coaching on
32:33
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32:37
Speaker 1: So I think generally speaking, the good teams, with the
32:41
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32:43
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32:46
Speaker 1: do the job. All right, John, you've got about an
32:49
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32:51
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32:55
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33:05
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33:14
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33:27
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Speaker 1: that was the start of the Gardner Minshew era at
39:15
Speaker 1: that point. A couple other instances where he was around
39:19
Speaker 1: and involved with the Jaguars covering a game last year
39:22
Speaker 1: and in the seasons prior so. He has not only
39:26
Speaker 1: this year, but in since covering the league sinc. Ninety eighties,
39:29
Speaker 1: got a pretty good run of the Jaguars history as well.
39:32
Speaker 1: It's always a good visit with Iron Eagle. The partial
39:35
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39:46
Speaker 1: I an Eagle. Good to see you, I And how
39:49
Speaker 1: things in New York? Yeah, great to see you as well. JP.
39:54
Speaker 1: We're doing well. Everything is running smoothly here, thank you. Yeah,
39:58
Speaker 1: and we're starting to open up a little bit more
40:00
Speaker 1: here in Florida. Let's talk a little bit of ball though.
40:04
Speaker 1: Let's start though. I know you worked with Tony Boselli
40:07
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night football. I work with Tony Boselli, you know,
40:11
Speaker 1: four days a week during the football season, so I
40:15
Speaker 1: know what you're going through. Uh, let's get this right
40:22
Speaker 1: on the table. Tony and I have set an NFL
40:26
Speaker 1: broadcast record for the largest disparity in broadcast partners in
40:32
Speaker 1: football history and broadcasting history. And somehow it works. Tony
40:37
Speaker 1: is a great guy. He's a tremendous partner, knows the game, prepared,
40:42
Speaker 1: sense of humor, easy to be around, certainly a good
40:47
Speaker 1: guy to have a pregame meal with, just to make
40:50
Speaker 1: you feel good about yourself after the fact that no,
40:52
Speaker 1: I don't eat that much. Tony can packet obviously more
40:57
Speaker 1: than anything else. Just happy that he's saved his family,
40:59
Speaker 1: say can feeling healthy and truly. I worked with a
41:03
Speaker 1: lot of different people, Tony has been one of the
41:06
Speaker 1: best guys that I've ever partnered with. Let's go back
41:10
Speaker 1: to the day things shut down. I know you do
41:12
Speaker 1: the NETS television games. It was college basketball conference tournament
41:16
Speaker 1: time as well. Where were you when the shutdowns started?
41:19
Speaker 1: What do you remember about that day and where were
41:21
Speaker 1: you working? Yeah, JP, I was in San Francisco. I
41:25
Speaker 1: had just worked TNT game the Warriors against the Clippers,
41:28
Speaker 1: and I actually stayed in the Bay Area because the
41:31
Speaker 1: Nets were coming in to play the Warriors two nights later.
41:34
Speaker 1: First game was on a Tuesday night. I knew that
41:37
Speaker 1: I had Wednesday off and walking around San Francisco that
41:41
Speaker 1: day normally a lot of hustle and bustle, and there
41:45
Speaker 1: was nothing happening. It was very surreal. I changed hotels
41:50
Speaker 1: and I walked about three quarters of a mile with
41:52
Speaker 1: my luggage on wheels, and there was nothing happening. Very strange.
41:59
Speaker 1: And then lay her that night. That Wednesday night, the
42:02
Speaker 1: President spoke to the country, talked about the travel restrictions,
42:06
Speaker 1: and then about two hours later, Rudy Joe Gobert. I
42:09
Speaker 1: was announced had tested positive for coronavirus. NBA shutdown. I
42:13
Speaker 1: jumped on a red eye flight immediately to get back
42:16
Speaker 1: to the New York area. My family was all spread out.
42:19
Speaker 1: My wife and my daughter were in Australia where my
42:21
Speaker 1: daughter was studying. My son was in l A. So
42:24
Speaker 1: that initial reaction was very personal of trying to get
42:28
Speaker 1: everybody situated and back home. And then the professional side
42:33
Speaker 1: started to come into focus. Atlantic Ten Championship. I was
42:36
Speaker 1: supposed to work that Sunday canceled and the tournament canceled. Obviously,
42:43
Speaker 1: we know what happened with the NBA, and we are
42:46
Speaker 1: still feeling that domino effect today. The NFL business as usual,
42:51
Speaker 1: but we know that there's some trepidation moving forward as
42:55
Speaker 1: to whether or not they're going to be able to
42:56
Speaker 1: start on time and play the games at the schedule
43:00
Speaker 1: that they just announced recently. I am eagle with us.
43:03
Speaker 1: You touched on a moment ago the NFL. Uh. You know,
43:06
Speaker 1: everything in this offseason has pretty much gone business as usual,
43:10
Speaker 1: at least scheduling wise. They had the draft, they did it,
43:13
Speaker 1: virtually the off season programs going on right now, virtually
43:17
Speaker 1: nothing on the field. They announced the schedule, for goodness sakes,
43:20
Speaker 1: that went out without a hitch. But now the question
43:23
Speaker 1: moving ahead is what happens around training camp and do
43:28
Speaker 1: they have to start pairing games down games without fans.
43:31
Speaker 1: It's all a big question. Nobody has an answer right now,
43:34
Speaker 1: but right so far it's been so good, but you
43:37
Speaker 1: get the kind of feeling that it might not last
43:40
Speaker 1: that long. Jp the greatest advantage that the NFL has
43:43
Speaker 1: had is time on their side. This happened to coincide
43:47
Speaker 1: with their off season, and although there might have been
43:51
Speaker 1: some people initially that thought it was a bit tone deaf,
43:54
Speaker 1: the reality is, after the reaction that we saw from
43:57
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft and the people around the country, it
44:01
Speaker 1: was welcomed and it was a nice distraction. We understand
44:06
Speaker 1: where sports fits in to the grand landscape. We miss it,
44:11
Speaker 1: but it is not the top priority. The top priority
44:15
Speaker 1: is getting our country and our society back up to speed.
44:19
Speaker 1: But sports plays a role in that it certainly covers
44:23
Speaker 1: a lot of jobs and the economy is affected by it,
44:27
Speaker 1: and I think just the general demeanor of people are
44:31
Speaker 1: affected by it in a positive way if sports is involved.
44:34
Speaker 1: So the NFL did fill a void, but they're now
44:38
Speaker 1: facing grander questions, and that's how do you continue with
44:42
Speaker 1: an offseason program. You can do it via zoom. You
44:44
Speaker 1: can have meetings that works short term, but eventually the
44:49
Speaker 1: physical part comes into play, and you've got to get
44:52
Speaker 1: your players ready and you have to practice. There's no
44:54
Speaker 1: sport in my mind out there that requires more of
44:58
Speaker 1: the repetition and the practic is in order to do
45:01
Speaker 1: your job well and in order to avoid injury. So
45:05
Speaker 1: it's interconnected in that manner. The way the schedule is
45:09
Speaker 1: set up, they could push it, they could move it
45:13
Speaker 1: and shift it, and they could shorten it. That's not
45:17
Speaker 1: their goal. Their goal is to play a seventeen week schedule,
45:20
Speaker 1: sixteen games for each team. Still respecting the buy but
45:24
Speaker 1: understanding they might have to come up with an alternative
45:28
Speaker 1: if we're not at a point where the safety measures
45:32
Speaker 1: are in place to have fifty three players on a
45:34
Speaker 1: team and a practice squad and everybody accounted for day
45:38
Speaker 1: in and day out at a facility. You can limit
45:41
Speaker 1: the amount of people going in, but let's face it,
45:45
Speaker 1: when players go back home, you don't know who they
45:49
Speaker 1: are connecting with and who they are interacting with so
45:54
Speaker 1: I think that's where the jigsaw puzzle is going to
45:56
Speaker 1: get very challenging for the league. A lot of players,
45:59
Speaker 1: a lot of people and staff involved in the NFL
46:03
Speaker 1: more so than any other sport. An Eagle, CBS Sports
46:08
Speaker 1: with us here on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Radio.
46:11
Speaker 1: This might be a little bit premature on that note,
46:14
Speaker 1: but NFL on CBS telecasts will announcers be allowed in
46:19
Speaker 1: the stadium? We know it's gonna be on TV if
46:21
Speaker 1: there are no fans, but um, how would you call
46:24
Speaker 1: a game if you're not allowed in the stadi? Well,
46:27
Speaker 1: two things there jp the first part of your question. Look,
46:32
Speaker 1: I think if you compare it to the NBA, it
46:36
Speaker 1: is vastly different. NFL. You're up in a press box.
46:39
Speaker 1: You are away from the action to begin with. It's
46:42
Speaker 1: often a controlled environment. You limit the amount of people
46:46
Speaker 1: that are in your booth. More or less. It's played
46:50
Speaker 1: by play announcer, analysts, stat person, spot er, audio person,
46:57
Speaker 1: stage manager. That's about it, I would say essential you're
47:02
Speaker 1: looking at six people, maybe seven, based on where you
47:06
Speaker 1: put the cameras. Would it be robotic cameras or would
47:10
Speaker 1: it be men and women working the cameras, so I
47:14
Speaker 1: could envision a plan that might include announcers at the site.
47:18
Speaker 1: Now the question is going to travel to these cities freely?
47:22
Speaker 1: And is there enough travel that's working throughout the nation
47:27
Speaker 1: that will allow announcers to come and go. Is there
47:30
Speaker 1: a quarantine that might be set up. These are all
47:33
Speaker 1: very legitimate questions moving forward, and I think there would
47:36
Speaker 1: be some legal concerns that would have to be sorted
47:38
Speaker 1: out with all of the people in play. The second
47:42
Speaker 1: part of the question, I've done a number of telecasts
47:48
Speaker 1: off of a monitor in a remote location. I've done basketball,
47:53
Speaker 1: I've done tennis, I've done golf. It can be done.
47:59
Speaker 1: It's it's challenge, yes, certainly. If there are no fans
48:03
Speaker 1: in the stadium, you're not getting a whole lot of ambiance,
48:06
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to really check your energy and
48:10
Speaker 1: gauge where that level would be based on the action.
48:15
Speaker 1: And you're now limited to only what you see on
48:18
Speaker 1: the screen. No longer can you view what's happening on
48:20
Speaker 1: the sidelines and substitutions and nuances that you pick up
48:24
Speaker 1: when you're at the venue. But if the question is
48:27
Speaker 1: can it be done, it can be done in last
48:31
Speaker 1: few minutes with you here, I an Eagle, CBS Sports,
48:34
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48:38
Speaker 1: The list goes on and on and on. Let's talk
48:40
Speaker 1: a little Jaguars football. Now. Life happens fast in the
48:44
Speaker 1: National Football League. Nearly the entire starting defense is gone.
48:50
Speaker 1: Avery Jones is here, Miles Jack is still here, Unique
48:54
Speaker 1: and may or may not be here. That's a different
48:56
Speaker 1: story altogether. Those are only three starters from maining the offense.
49:00
Speaker 1: Some changes on offense and that time too. This happened quick,
49:04
Speaker 1: but there's confidence I think inside the building at least
49:07
Speaker 1: virtually these days, that this group is can get some
49:12
Speaker 1: things done this year. They may not go win eleven games,
49:16
Speaker 1: but there is some confidence around here even with all
49:19
Speaker 1: the changes. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Dan Foulton I called
49:24
Speaker 1: the Steelers Jaguars playoff game, and to think from that
49:28
Speaker 1: moment to where we are today in terms of personnel
49:32
Speaker 1: and expectations, things do change quickly, and it's a reminder
49:37
Speaker 1: how hard and difficult it is to sustain in the
49:40
Speaker 1: National Football League with players bouncing around and uh. Sometimes
49:45
Speaker 1: you catch a break with your schedule, sometimes you don't
49:48
Speaker 1: that year, things came together nicely at the right time
49:52
Speaker 1: that Jaguars were playing their best football at the most
49:55
Speaker 1: important time of the year, and matching that has been
50:00
Speaker 1: not sure. But that said, what I saw last year,
50:04
Speaker 1: there were certainly times where they left something to be desired.
50:08
Speaker 1: I had that game late in season Jacksonville, Tennessee, when
50:11
Speaker 1: the Titans were on the rise, and that was pretty
50:14
Speaker 1: much the end of the line for the Jaguars. Gardner
50:18
Speaker 1: Minshew got his job back after that and now here
50:21
Speaker 1: we are getting ready for and he's the guy. Pretty
50:25
Speaker 1: amazing considering again Week one of the season, I've got
50:29
Speaker 1: Jaguars Kansas City Chiefs. Minshew is in the game for
50:33
Speaker 1: Nick Foles who got injured, and a phenomenon began because
50:39
Speaker 1: he just had a presence about him. He wasn't intimidated,
50:43
Speaker 1: there was no fear. He just didn't strike you as
50:47
Speaker 1: a rookie. And it's funny in the NFL because we
50:52
Speaker 1: have so many different personalities and guys that are highly
50:56
Speaker 1: successful that are very cocky, and others that are highly
51:01
Speaker 1: successful that are very humble. Gardner Minshew just had that
51:07
Speaker 1: it factor, whatever that is. Sometimes you can't really gauge it.
51:13
Speaker 1: And you have to look someone in the eye and
51:15
Speaker 1: you have to have a conversation with him, And I
51:17
Speaker 1: can see how it rubbed off on his teammates. And
51:20
Speaker 1: he's got a belief whether or not he takes advantage
51:22
Speaker 1: of this and becomes a ten year starter in the NFL. Look,
51:26
Speaker 1: we don't know that that that's a hundred million dollar
51:30
Speaker 1: question for Gardner Minshew, but he does have attributes that
51:35
Speaker 1: you look for in a leader, in a starting quarterback,
51:38
Speaker 1: and a guy that people root for. It's easy to
51:41
Speaker 1: root for him, But there are other players on this
51:43
Speaker 1: team too that have star quality to them. Josh Allen,
51:46
Speaker 1: he seems to be the type of guy that you
51:48
Speaker 1: can build defensively around, a guy who could be a
51:51
Speaker 1: ten year player in Jacksonville. DJ Chark on the other side,
51:55
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Those are two pieces to Pro Bowl players
51:58
Speaker 1: a year ago that not many teams have young budding
52:03
Speaker 1: stars like that on their roster. Yeah, we met with
52:07
Speaker 1: Josh week one, and this is a rookie getting ready
52:11
Speaker 1: for his first NFL game, and we walked away from
52:14
Speaker 1: that meeting saying, this guy's gonna be okay. This is
52:18
Speaker 1: not gonna be a problem for him making the transition.
52:21
Speaker 1: Mature has a killer instinct, though, and you can tell
52:26
Speaker 1: how great he wants to be. And I think he
52:28
Speaker 1: was soaking up so much of the knowledge from the
52:30
Speaker 1: veterans on that team, and although maybe they're not gonna
52:34
Speaker 1: be there anymore, for him, he's gonna benefit greatly from
52:37
Speaker 1: that one year. Met with d J. Chark later in
52:40
Speaker 1: the season. I did not know a whole lot about him.
52:44
Speaker 1: You know, obviously a second round pick, so you had
52:46
Speaker 1: a scouting report, but the personality side I didn't know,
52:50
Speaker 1: and again walked away very impressed. There's a sense that
52:57
Speaker 1: he can be trusted, that he's gonna do his job well,
53:01
Speaker 1: and that you're never gonna have to worry about him
53:03
Speaker 1: his preparation. And also there's a fire there and while
53:08
Speaker 1: he may not be the most outgoing necessarily, there is
53:13
Speaker 1: something in in the inside that is burning for him
53:17
Speaker 1: that he wants to be considered an elite wide receiver
53:20
Speaker 1: and you look for that. To me, that's what separates players.
53:24
Speaker 1: Everybody in the NFL has talent, Everybody that gets to
53:27
Speaker 1: this point has legitimate ability. It's those just subtle differences
53:34
Speaker 1: that can make the difference for a player turning into
53:37
Speaker 1: a pro bowler and d J. Stark showed that Josh
53:40
Speaker 1: Allen showed the potential for that. So two players. If
53:45
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53:53
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53:56
Speaker 1: Strange times, obviously, I will appreciate your time always to
54:00
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58:57
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59:02
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59:05
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59:10
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59:12
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59:18
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Speaker 1: Committee has expressed support for further analysis of on field
59:42
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59:49
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59:51
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59:55
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