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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 116 | Bye Week, Roster Questions for Remainder of 2024 Season · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kay Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are
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  Speaker 2: with me today.
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  Speaker 1: We're heading into the.
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  Speaker 2: Bye week, but we're coming off a historically bad loss,
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  Speaker 2: so let's talk things out a little bit and talk
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  Speaker 2: about what's going to go on going forward.
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  Speaker 1: So big thing number one, not if, but when.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously after a loss like we had to the Lions
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  Speaker 2: last week, changes will be made at this point, no
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  Speaker 2: changes yet, Brian, But when you're looking forward, something has
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  Speaker 2: to change at some point.
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  Speaker 3: It does.
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  Speaker 4: You can't sell what we've seen too often your year,
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  Speaker 4: whether it was the Bills or the Bears, and this
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  Speaker 4: was just further proof that there are systemic problems. What
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  Speaker 4: those are for someone else to decide. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: can give you a couple of things that I think
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  Speaker 4: and I have, but something's going to change. I know
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  Speaker 4: people want it right now, but that doesn't help change
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  Speaker 4: it for the rest of this season. It creates more
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  Speaker 4: problems oftentimes. Look, I've done this for thirty one years.
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen and in season coaching change make a
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  Speaker 4: difference at all. So you might as well just stay
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  Speaker 4: the course and go through the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 4: The schedule gets easier. You're not playing the Lions anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You've got the Titans and the Jets and teams that fit.
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  Speaker 3: More where you are.
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  Speaker 4: I would stay right where I was, understanding that nobody
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  Speaker 4: believes that anything is staying the same when the season
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  Speaker 4: is complete.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's as much as fans don't want to hear this,
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  Speaker 5: shod Cohn and people who are influencing the decision. You
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  Speaker 5: don't want to make a move in the X number
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  Speaker 5: of hours right after that. It's emotional. And even though
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  Speaker 5: fans instinct to say, well, fire everybody, it's the job
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  Speaker 5: of the owner to make sure that the change or
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  Speaker 5: the structure is good for the long term and not
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  Speaker 5: good for twelve hours.
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  Speaker 4: And people know this. But the Jets fired Robert Sala
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  Speaker 4: how many weeks ago? And has that turned the tide
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  Speaker 4: at all? And Aaron Rodgers is their quarterback, They've got
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  Speaker 4: that veteran presence.
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  Speaker 3: It hasn't changed anything.
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  Speaker 4: And I think people know they know this, But the
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  Speaker 4: emotion of it is I gotta have change, and I
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  Speaker 4: got to have it now. Look, it sucked watching on Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody liked that at all. But you're not going to
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  Speaker 4: change it. In two weeks because you change it right now.
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  Speaker 5: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: Now our second big thing is on the table. While
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  Speaker 2: we talk about grand changing, we haven't seen a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that yet. Dan Peterson was asked earlier this week
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  Speaker 2: about whether he'd be making any changes to.
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  Speaker 1: His coaching staff, or particularly to play calling.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, I really wish that.
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  Speaker 6: Everything for those everything's all kid.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's that John play calling is on the table.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently everything is on the table. Is a little too
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  Speaker 1: late for those kinds of talks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say it's on the table because he wanted
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  Speaker 5: to answer the question yesterday and in the next what
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  Speaker 5: until the coaches leave the building for the bye, which
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  Speaker 5: I think is Thursday Wednesday, whatever, they need to discuss
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  Speaker 5: that and figure out what to do going forward. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think at that point he had made that decision,
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  Speaker 5: so leaving everything on the table. I'd be a little
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  Speaker 5: surprised if if he changes the approach, Brian, because he's
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  Speaker 5: been pretty clear for two and a half years that
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  Speaker 5: he believes in this approach. Maybe he takes over play
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  Speaker 5: calling or changes a dynamic in it. But I just
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  Speaker 5: don't believe from listening to Doug for two and a
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  Speaker 5: half years that he thinks there's an issue with the structure.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so I'll take the coaching side,
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  Speaker 4: because he was asked about would he make changes to
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  Speaker 4: his coaching staff, and I think I said on our
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  Speaker 4: postgame radio show on Sunday evening and yesterday on Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: Am or Monday on Jaguars Am, that I thought maybe
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  Speaker 4: you'd have a sacrificial lamb, you know, somebody that set
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  Speaker 4: the tone that said it wasn't good enough. We can't
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  Speaker 4: have that, We've got to change it. But Doug reminded
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  Speaker 4: me in his news conference on Monday afternoon that this
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  Speaker 4: was one of the reasons why he ended up leaving Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 4: because he doesn't want to point the finger at his
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  Speaker 4: assistant coaches. In fact, he was definitive when he said
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  Speaker 4: point the finger at me. So I don't expect you're
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  Speaker 4: going to see any changes to his coaching staff.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how he operates.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the owner comes in and changes the dynamic because
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  Speaker 4: he's the one person who can make him do something
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  Speaker 4: like that. But Doug seem pretty adamant that if anyone
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  Speaker 4: was going to go, it wasn't going to be any
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  Speaker 4: of his assistant coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing number three is bye by.
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  Speaker 2: We're into the bye week, and as Brian mentioned when
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  Speaker 2: speaking directly to the fans, is what Doug.
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  Speaker 1: Pearson had to say.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can criticize me all you want, point the
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  Speaker 6: finger at me. That's fine because it's where it starts.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, for the players, they put their best
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  Speaker 6: foot forward every single day. Yesterday was not who we are.
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  Speaker 6: And to Jean's point, I mean, this is an exhausted
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  Speaker 6: team right now and we need this week to get
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  Speaker 6: rejuvenated again, get fresh again, and get ready to go
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  Speaker 6: for the last you know, six weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Ran.
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  Speaker 2: I think this team, the fan base probably tired physically, emotionally, mentally,
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  Speaker 2: every aspect of that. Is there any belief after what
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  Speaker 2: we saw against the lines they are going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to bounce back at least put some effort forward
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  Speaker 2: in these last six games.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, Doug says that's not who we are,
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  Speaker 4: and I know that's not a satisfying answer for anyone,
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  Speaker 4: But what.
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  Speaker 3: Else can he possibly say?
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  Speaker 4: He could point back to the three games prior the Packers,
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  Speaker 4: the Eagles and the Vikings where they were in it
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  Speaker 4: at the end, and those are three good football teams
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  Speaker 4: near the top of the standings in the league, let
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  Speaker 4: alone the NFC, and he can say that's who we are.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're looking for hope, if that's true, that
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  Speaker 4: who they are. You went toe to toe with Detexans
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  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, and again, you know the
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  Speaker 4: teams that are left on the schedule more close to
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  Speaker 4: who you are record wise, the Raiders, the Titans, the Jets.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're just gonna try to compare, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 4: a reason to have some hope and to believe what
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  Speaker 4: he had to say. It's just there wasn't a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot to say for us or for him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's fair to say that that's who
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  Speaker 5: they were on Sunday because that's what it was, or
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  Speaker 5: whatever all these were was. I can't keep track right now,
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  Speaker 5: but it's not who they've been. And I think Doug
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  Speaker 5: does believe you can get back to how you were
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  Speaker 5: playing with the emotion and the desire of the three
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  Speaker 5: weeks leading into Detroit. I think he does believe they
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  Speaker 5: can get that back if you get Trevor Lawrence back
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  Speaker 5: playing those last six games. He said, add nauseum in
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  Speaker 5: the last couple of days and no fans are tired
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  Speaker 5: of hearing it about being a tired fatigue team. I
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  Speaker 5: think there was something to that in Detroit that once
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  Speaker 5: they kind of took the punch, there wasn't a punch
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  Speaker 5: to give back. I do think after the bye there'll
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  Speaker 5: be a punch to give back. I just don't know
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  Speaker 5: if those punches are gonna have a bunch more wins,
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  Speaker 5: but I think you'll see more fight.
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  Speaker 1: Love some more fight. We're gonna fight through this.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna come back after the break and talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about what we're gonna see after the bye week.
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  Speaker 1: This oh, this.
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  Speaker 2: Schools Welcome back into jags Am.
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  Speaker 1: It's Wednesday of bye week.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting ready to have a couple of days off,
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  Speaker 2: so that's good, but we still want to look forward
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  Speaker 2: to those final six games. We mentioned five of the
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  Speaker 2: six opponents under five hundreds, so those are winnable matches,
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  Speaker 2: but it depends, so you're putting out on the field
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  Speaker 2: at that point. We've talked about Trevor Lawrence possibly being available.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know what that full availability will be. But
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  Speaker 2: in your mind, do you need to see Trevor at
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  Speaker 2: some point in the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because I want to see my young wide
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  Speaker 4: receiver have the best possible arm throwing him the ball,
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  Speaker 4: especially because he runs deep. I think we've seen that
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  Speaker 4: that's not mac Jones' specialty, that he just misses on
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  Speaker 4: those deep balls. So yes, I want to see not
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  Speaker 4: at the risk of the shoulder eating surgery and being
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  Speaker 4: a problem for him, but if he can handle the pain,
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  Speaker 4: and because that's not going to change until the offseason,
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  Speaker 4: if he can handle it not injure it further, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I need to see him.
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  Speaker 5: I say, yay, I mean yeah, your name. The graphic
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  Speaker 5: here says yeah, your name. So I'll go with yay
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  Speaker 5: because I would like to see him. As long as
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  Speaker 5: you know it doesn't affect next off seasons. My understanding
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  Speaker 5: is it wouldn't in terms of if surgery is an
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  Speaker 5: option and all that, and if Trevor wants to play,
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  Speaker 5: if he can do it without injury, then even for
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  Speaker 5: beyond Brian Thomas Junior, just he's still a young guy
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  Speaker 5: and still getting better progressing would be a positive. And
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  Speaker 5: now I'm usually not this guy. But if the offensive
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  Speaker 5: line's fine, if the offensive line were to sustain some
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  Speaker 5: injuries where it got a little dicey, they've passed protected. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: So I have no problem with putting him out there
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  Speaker 5: in this situation right now.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's also the leader of your franchise and
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  Speaker 4: the leader of the locker room. And you have guys
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  Speaker 4: in there going what You're gonna package him up in
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  Speaker 4: bubble wrap and put him away because of that, I'm
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  Speaker 4: playing with the knee, a hip, a foot, whatever it
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  Speaker 4: might be.
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  Speaker 3: What about me?
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  Speaker 4: I think having him as that guy, and not because
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  Speaker 4: he's the fifty four million dollar man, but because he's
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  Speaker 4: the number one guy, and he sets the temple for
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  Speaker 4: your team.
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  Speaker 3: And he's a guy who played hurt last year.
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  Speaker 4: He's a guy who's tough enough to be willing to
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  Speaker 4: play hurt, not injured, but hurt. So yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: the locker room needs to see if he can play, see.
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  Speaker 5: Him play, It'll feel very make sure the word rudderless,
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  Speaker 5: no big toe kind of situation. Yeah, if you don't
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  Speaker 5: have Trevor in there, because it will feel very stale.
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  Speaker 5: I think I'd rather not have that, and I think
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  Speaker 5: the franchise would It would still be good for some energy,
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  Speaker 5: I guess is the word I'm looking to agree.
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  Speaker 2: And when we talked about developing some of the younger players,
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  Speaker 2: you're not the offense is inoperable at this point, so
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  Speaker 2: you're not seeing much of anything from anybody. So if
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  Speaker 2: we want to see some of what you know Brenton
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  Speaker 2: Strange can do, what Brian Thomas can do, we definitely
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  Speaker 2: need to see Trevor back out there. Also looking at
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  Speaker 2: a couple of guys contract years right we talked about this,
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be here going forward? Who do we
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  Speaker 2: want to see? Some of the young guys already locked up?
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  Speaker 2: But two guys in contract years right now on Her
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  Speaker 2: Cisco Walker Little. Have you seen enough of either of
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  Speaker 2: them to say you would want them back?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm probably. I think the jury is still out
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. On Walker Little, there's six games with
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  Speaker 5: Andre I like him, probably second contract, safety money. Brian
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  Speaker 5: I would have a tough time. I think he's an
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  Speaker 5: NFL starter. I think he's a good player. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know about second contract, big money for this.
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  Speaker 4: My understanding is is that he is a guy whose
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  Speaker 4: first step is often wrong, right, And when you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about being over the top, the best example of it
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  Speaker 4: is in Philadelphia on DeVonta Smith's play.
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  Speaker 3: I'm told that was him.
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  Speaker 4: He should have been over the top helping Ronald Darby,
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  Speaker 4: and instead he made a move to the inside when
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  Speaker 4: he should have gone outside.
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  Speaker 3: And that's been the case all year long with him.
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  Speaker 4: So I'd probably rather have Walker a little because bigger
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  Speaker 4: guys are harder to find. But he hasn't exactly exonerated
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  Speaker 4: himself as the future at left tackle.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a lot to proved.
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  Speaker 5: The final six games, Yeah, six games are big for him.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's it's a position where if he shows
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  Speaker 5: and you feel great about it, But I think you
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  Speaker 5: have to feel great about it in a contract year
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  Speaker 5: because then there's probably not a whole lot more development. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So maybe, through no fault of his own, hasn't played
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  Speaker 5: a lot to develop, But I don't know if in
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  Speaker 5: year five you can have project there, So we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: I'm less certain on that than on look.
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  Speaker 4: And not to turn this to the draft because we'll
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  Speaker 4: have all kinds of time for them, but where the
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  Speaker 4: Daguars are likely going to be picking. There are a
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  Speaker 4: couple of good offensive tackles, so if you were not
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  Speaker 4: sold on him, that could be an option for you.
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  Speaker 2: But you could need a couple the way the line
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  Speaker 2: is right now, he couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say this for ending whether Listen, you
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  Speaker 4: need big guys up front, you guys on both sides
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  Speaker 4: of the ball, without a doubt. But you saw the
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  Speaker 4: way that that Lion's offensive line sets the temple for
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  Speaker 4: their whole team both sides of the ball. Give me
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  Speaker 4: that and give me an off intive lineman who can
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  Speaker 4: play like that. I can build something.
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  Speaker 5: They have to start. Yes, good, you know I do.
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  Speaker 5: But you saw the lines the other day, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it feels like you need to start being great up
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  Speaker 5: front to get where this team wants to go.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, agreed.
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  Speaker 1: All right, stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: On Jags am today.
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  Speaker 2: Getting ready for the bye week, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about some other teams, so we don't have to wallow
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  Speaker 2: in our pity right now for ourselves. So let's talk
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about Anthony Richardson back as the starter
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  Speaker 2: for the Colts, and he got to win over the Jets,
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  Speaker 2: led them with three touchdowns, two rushing touchdowns, one throwing touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: We weren't sure if they were going to give up
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  Speaker 2: on him entirely. Apparently they were saying they weren't really
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  Speaker 2: doing that. I don't know if that's true or not,
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  Speaker 2: or if it was because Joe flacka wasn't doing as well.
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  Speaker 1: But he's back in there.
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  Speaker 4: As long as he has more rushing touchdowns in a
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  Speaker 4: game than passing touchdowns, nothing changes as.
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  Speaker 3: Far as I'm concerned.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it's a smart move for them
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  Speaker 5: Joe Flacco short term. Obviously, franchises need to find out
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  Speaker 5: in this day and age what they've got at quarterback
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  Speaker 5: because it's a it's a quick trigger decide to move
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  Speaker 5: on league right now. So I agree with Brian. Until
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  Speaker 5: you can come at least remotely close to winning in
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  Speaker 5: the pocket, it's hard to establish yourself as the guy
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  Speaker 5: feels like he's going. He has a long way to go,
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  Speaker 5: but the next five or six games for that franchise.
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  Speaker 5: We were talking about Trevor earlier, they need to think
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  Speaker 5: him on the field for six games, figure something out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, to be fair, that's the exact same reason why
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  Speaker 4: you want Trevor on the field, right, But in his case,
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  Speaker 4: you need to see exactly where he's at so you
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  Speaker 4: can decide whether there's got to be a quarterback in
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  Speaker 4: your future or whether you take this incredibly gifted young
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  Speaker 4: man but not polished passer and keep going with him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I was surprised earlier frankly that they didn't just
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  Speaker 5: stick with him, because you've got to figure that out
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  Speaker 5: in his case, considering he's had so few games in
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  Speaker 5: his career.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I think another team that we know probably has already
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  Speaker 2: decided they want to get a quarterback is the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 2: Will Levis has been back for a couple of games now.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't able to get a win over the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: of Vikings swept the AFC South, But yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where they're going to go. I guess I mean
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  Speaker 2: coming in with a new head coach and they didn't
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  Speaker 2: pick Levis, So that wasn't their guy necessarily to begin with.
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  Speaker 2: But now to see that they're going to be in
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  Speaker 2: a similar situation where they're looking for another quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I mean Shdur Sanders is sitting right there
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  Speaker 4: at the at the top of the draft, and I
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  Speaker 4: believe Carson beck is going to be a top pick
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  Speaker 4: as well. Well maybe not you know, top five, but
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  Speaker 4: up there because he's got a huge arm. If you're
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  Speaker 4: Brian Callahan, you get your choice. You want the pocket
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  Speaker 4: passer or you want the mobile guy who can can
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  Speaker 4: on the run throw the ball sixty yards on a dart.
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  Speaker 4: If you're the Titans, you leave all your options open.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it does feel very much like Okay, came in,
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  Speaker 5: had a look six games left. Maybe Will Levis can
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  Speaker 5: still save that situation for him. Stranger things have happened.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, it's funny you assume things about quarterbacks
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  Speaker 5: in this league and off seasons, and there was a
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  Speaker 5: lot of talk at some point that this was a
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  Speaker 5: quarterback centric division. Now you've still got a lot of
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: guys with some proven.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: It do The Texans were able to get a win
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: over the Cowboys, who I think are three and seven
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: at this point. So also I don't know the exact numbers,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: but there's like seven teams that are three and seven
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: are worse this year. So it feels like unfortunately, misery
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: likes company. There's a lot of us out there with
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: this right now, and the Texans haven't. They obviously have
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of talent on their team, but they haven't
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: been playing great this year.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: It's just the rest of the division is not good.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Just when I watched them, do you run the ball?
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I mean they certainly did on Monday night, right, but
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: when we saw them, of course, Mixing didn't play. They
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: weren't as committed to the running game.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: C J.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Stroud I think has impressive arm talent, but without an
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Ego Collins, they weren't as good passing the ball. So
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I think they're still trying to figure out their identity.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: But that quarterback is he's fun to watch.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's fun to watch. I think it a little
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: bit of a situation like Trevor, where still trying to
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: figure out exactly what CJ is going to be for
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the long term. He was magnificent, magnificent as a rookie,
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: very good this year, but still some I think trying
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: to figure out exactly what he is, how depend on
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: is isy on guys around him. He's the franchise guy,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: no question, but where he's gonna fit and how franchise
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: is he's going to be. I think that's what he's
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: determining now as the league gets a better grip on
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: what he is and how to defend him.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Well, they've won some close games this year, which has
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: been the difference, and that's why they're seven and three
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: and running away with the division at this point.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, stay with us.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to you about what's coming up the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: rest of the bye week and when we'll see you again.
• 18:29
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• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I think you gotta be really, really careful when you
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: start pointing fingers at certain people. It's a dangerous thing
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: and I'm not gonna do that. Not doing it, not
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: right now, because that's as a head coach in this
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: league that's going through what we're going through. You're pointing
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: a finger, and if it's going to be pointed. It
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: needs to be pointed at me, start with me, right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So that's enough on that, No significant changes.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: We're going into the bye week. We are expecting to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: come back. We have six more games this year. Brian,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: what are you hopeful to see change wise games?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I just got to comment.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I really like a coach, a head coach who will
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: stand there and say, point the finger at me, stand
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: up guy. I've seen coaches fire guys that they're close
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: to before and know how difficult it is, and I
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: just admire him standing up and doing it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: What am I hoping to see change?
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping to see this team come out and win
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: a close game, right.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I mean they haven't done it. I don't know how that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know whether that's throwing the ball down field more,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: playing a different coverage on the back end on defense.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I mean that there are smarter football people than me
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: that can make that decision. But come out and beat
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the Texans, win a close game and see if that
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: doesn't sparkle little momentum here.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: It's too little, too late for most people. I get that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: But we've been telling bad stories for eleven weeks. Nine
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of the eleven stories We've told have been this, right,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: let's have some fun the last seven weeks of the season.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, same. I mean, it's it's very conceivable they could
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: beat the Texans. This is a league where that kind
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: of thing happens, and they matched up well against them
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: in the first game this year. So like, see Trevor
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: get back if he's good to go and have a
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: little life. I don't know at the end of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: season will bring, but you can certainly have some positives
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: and some you know, ray of light in the last
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: six weeks in what feels really dark right now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Bye week coming at the perfect time for all of us.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: We hope you enjoy your week away, rest up, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: get ready. We will be back on Monday morning to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: talk Jaguars football, extends Vitaly