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Tone It Down Classic: TIU Lore, Answered: Karena Sets the Record Straight with Hannah Brown · Tone It Down

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Listen, never give up on your dreams, guys, because I can't believe I'm doing a Why Not Wednesday with you, Karina.
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I'm actually like freaking out right now.
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This is your weekly girlfriend chat, the kind that we all crave, where we can show up exactly as we are, laugh until we cry, get honest about the things we're navigating.
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and all the private girl talk that we need more of.
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No pressure, no perfection, just real women like us, sharing real stories with real connections.
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Over the years of Tonidab, I've learned that the most transformative moments don't always happen in a workout.
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They happen in those conversations before and after.
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when we realize we're all going through something, when we feel seen.
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And that's what Tone It Down is built on.
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My intention is simple, to help you tune back into yourself, to quiet the noise, and to remind you that you're allowed to evolve.
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This is Tone It Down.
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Tone It Down.
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Hello, my friends.
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Welcome back to Tone It Down.
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This is Karina, your girl.
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All right.
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So this week's podcast, I had to do a repeat with Hannah Aaron Brown because I'm realizing that a lot of you don't know that I actually bought Tone It Up back.
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It has been less than a year and I've been working my booty off behind the scenes, fixing the text off, fixing like so much, so much has gone on.
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And I had this conversation with Hannah earlier this year and we really get into like what has been going on at Tonered Up.
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And I met Hannah because a few of my friends and people I know were texting and DMing me like, have you seen this TikTok lore?
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And I was like, I don't know.
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I don't really go on TikTok.
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Anyways, we dive deep into everything in this conversation.
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It was when I was in LA and had the pleasure of meeting the wonderful Hannah.
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If you don't follow her, follow her.
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She's just a great being.
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It just goes to show through the Toner Up community how you can meet like really cool people.
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And Hannah is one of them.
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So I wanted to bring this conversation up to the top again for you so you can kind of
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Like if you haven't caught up yet with what's going on at Tone It Up, then now you can again.
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And also next week I'm headed out to Las Vegas.
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My friend Jewel does a summit there, a mental health summit called the Not Alone Summit.
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And I was thinking about having a little Tone It Up walk and talk.
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I never want more than a few people there just to keep it really intimate and
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If you're in Vegas, DM me on at Kareena Dawn or the Tone It Up account and let me know.
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I'm thinking about Monday.
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Let me know if you have plans Monday morning.
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Enjoy this episode.
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Share it with everyone.
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Thank you, Hannah, for going viral and investigating the Tone It Up lore.
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We're here.
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Tone it down and... Oh my gosh, and not aspirational.
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We're sharing this podcast, Little Colabi, for the first Why Not Wednesday.
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Oh, God.
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Listen to that.
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I know.
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First Why Not Wednesday in a very long time.
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Listen, never give up on your dreams, guys, because I can't believe I'm doing a Why Not Wednesday with you, Karina.
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I'm actually freaking out right now.
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I haven't stopped smiling since we saw each other today.
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Okay, so a little backup here.
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Hannah, I met through social, obviously.
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So you know I'm not on TikTok.
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No.
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And then I kept getting text messages from my friends who are on TikTok.
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And be like, are you okay?
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Like, what's going on?
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What?
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No, even Afra, Jewel's manager, was like, hey girl.
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And I called her and she's like, did you see this TikTok?
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And tone it up lore.
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And I'm like, I don't know.
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And so I went on there and I binge watched.
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And so did Desiree, who's behind the camera, her head of marketing.
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We're like, wow, okay.
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Number one.
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I was like, she's good.
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Even Bobby was like, she's good at this.
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She needs to be an investigative reporter.
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Oh, my God.
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Thank you.
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I know.
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You did call Bobby a douche, but he's a big fan.
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Oh, my God.
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Did I call him a douche?
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You heard someone else.
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Oh, someone in the comments did.
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Yeah.
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But we do have a call to Bobby later.
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No, I can't wait.
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So anyways, after like 20-something episodes, I messaged you on TikTok.
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I freaked out.
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You did.
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And I was like, hey, do you want to talk?
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I was just interested because there's all of these questions and so many things that over the years have popped up that I haven't answered or maybe couldn't answer.
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And so then we had a secret meetup.
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It was so fun.
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In LA when I was here last time and had a glass of wine or two and got to know each other.
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It was so fun.
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I was like so surprised and happy to hear from you.
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And also I was like, what a badass that she was able to watch like a bajillion videos of like me like picking apart everything, like you and Kat and Tone It Up.
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But also like after listening to your book, I was like, of course she's brave enough to do that.
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You've done a lot of hard things in your life.
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Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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Yeah.
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It was a little nerve wracking, but nothing I haven't experienced in all of my life or the past 16 years.
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Mm-hmm.
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So here we are.
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Yeah.
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That time we met for happy hour.
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It's like, shall we podcast together?
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So we're going to have a conversation.
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I'm going to let you take the reins.
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Oh, my God.
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We're going to sip some wine here.
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This is truly my dream come true.
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Like, I manifested this, I think.
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Yeah.
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Let's go.
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Okay.
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Can I ask, first and foremost, a lot of people, when I made these videos, there was this rumor that TAU, you weren't actually one of the people who started it.
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Your business partner and her husband started it and you were hired as a Craigslist model.
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You have been a fitness model before.
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However, I know the truth, but can you clear this up, please?
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Yes.
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So the Craigslist rumor was our first employee was hired off of Craigslist.
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Mm-hmm.
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So the first time I heard that rumor was years and years ago, how me and Kat didn't found the company together.
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There were some rumors of private equity, wanted to create, tone it up.
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It is completely false.
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And then there was other rumors that I was hired on Craigslist.
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So when you put that on TikTok lore, I went to my attorney of 16 years ago.
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I'm not going to say his name, but he is the attorney for Kendrick Lamar.
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He was back then.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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And I messaged him and I was like, can you send me the articles of organization for Tone It Up in 2009?
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And he immediately within 30 minutes was like, no questions asked.
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Here you go.
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That is gorgeous.
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So you have it in print.
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You have proof that you are a founder of Tone It Up.
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50-50.
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Hell yeah.
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No one else.
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Hell yeah.
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I will show you.
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I can't wait to see these ancient texts.
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Sorry, not ancient.
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Not that long ago.
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What do you think made Tone It Up such a success in the early days?
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Authenticity.
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We literally were friends who met at the gym.
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That's the other thing.
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We actually met at the Equinox in Manhattan Beach.
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I was newly single, moved from Marina Del Rey to Manhattan Beach and was just working out all the time while getting ready for shoots and stuff.
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And she was a trainer there.
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And we met and just became friends and had a passion for fitness and wanting to really...
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Offer something to women that can make them feel better.
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And that has never changed for either of us through the years.
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Damn.
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When did it, like, click?
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Was there a moment where you guys were like, holy shit, we've, like, created something really special that's growing, like, insanely fast?
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Or was it sort of like baby steps and then one day you were like, you looked around and you were like, damn.
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Damn.
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So we were in the beginning of YouTube and Instagram wasn't even around yet, I don't think, right?
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Yeah, I think it came in like 2012.
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Okay, so three years in.
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Yeah.
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So with my background, I was traveling the world as a triathlete, a host, sports and fitness modeling, certified trainer, all these things.
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And then she was on...
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YouTube with another company at the time.
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So she actually introduced me to YouTube.
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I was like, isn't that like a music platform?
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I was like way back in the day.
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So we just decided to start making music videos.
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I didn't do music videos together.
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I'm like, they are music videos to me because I've watched them a million times.
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I love them so much.
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I mean, I also feel like just making fitness accessible to women in a way that was like fun and like girly and silly and not like this serious, like gate kept kind of vibe was really special.
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Yeah.
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And that's important to point out because myself, even to this day, I'm a little clumsy, a little awkward.
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I'm not.
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I'm like, same.
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Yeah.
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And that's okay.
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Yeah.
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So you shouldn't be made fun of for that.
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Or just if I work out and when I do, I want to have fun.
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I want to enjoy what I'm doing.
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I want to do it with friends.
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Even in the trailer for Tone It Down, I mentioned how like the best conversations happen before and after the workout.
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And that's how it's always been for Tone It Up.
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And I think it finally clicked within like a year where women were like, wait,
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I want to have that relationship.
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I want to make friends through fitness because that's our similar interest, right?
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So meeting new friends through fitness is great versus, you know, especially now getting older.
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Having like a common interest.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's what I love to do even in Austin.
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It's like, hey, do you want to meet up at the gym?
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Do you want to go for a walk on Lady Bird Lake?
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And it's just a nice way to get together with people.
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I love that.
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Yeah, I feel like being able to laugh through a workout, like I mess something up, like being able to laugh at myself and have fun.
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Like I felt like that energy, I hadn't seen it in other fitness spaces when I first found you guys.
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Like I was like a P90X girl and like with love and light to Tony Horton, it was intense.
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Yeah.
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I did do P90X.
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Also, who was the other one through Beachbody?
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Shaleen Johnson.
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Yes.
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Did you do Turbo Jam?
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No.
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Should I try it?
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Yeah.
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I mean, this is like 20 years ago that she probably put those out.
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But I loved P90X.
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It freaking crushed me.
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Hardcore.
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There are still tone it up moves, though, that like I would say I'm more fit now than I was in like 2014.
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But like there are certain moves that you guys do where I'm like, I can never do it.
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Like a burpee?
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Like I can't.
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Oh, I don't do burpees anymore.
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I don't do jump tucks and I don't do burpees.
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Everyone knows that.
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I don't know how to do them.
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I've never physically been able to do them.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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So when did you find Tone It Up?
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I think like 2014, 2015.
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Like I had just graduated college and my big sister showed me to you guys, showed you guys to me.
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And I was like, oh my God, this is amazing.
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And then I just was obsessed.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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I looked up to you guys a lot.
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Like, I felt like you guys had this like really cool, like big sister vibe where I was just like, oh, I want to be like the fun bubbly girls who like live in California and wear like cool gym outfits and like have fun working out.
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And also like, I had never had a relationship to exercise that didn't feel like it was like a punishment or like seeking out a certain appearance.
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And like, yeah, obviously you guys are snatched, like, but it was more than that.
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It was like increasing your mood and yeah, connection.
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Like all of that really resonated with me.
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Yeah, I mean, and we're talking so long ago, well, almost a decade that you discovered Turn It Up.
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I feel like there was a shift.
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I mean, obviously, we love looking great and feeling great, you know, the aesthetic.
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But also, for me, as I've gotten older, it's more about, like, how you feel mentally.
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But we didn't realize or weren't talking about it back in the day of, like, why do I work out?
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Oh, my gosh, how do I feel in those endorphins?
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I think that was kind of the thing that we didn't realize because we were so young.
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Yeah.
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Not only did we like to feel good, but mentally it just made us have so much energy and creative.
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And so there's so many different aspects that we've learned over the years of why we work out.
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Yeah, and making it accessible to people.
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The fact that I could move a coffee table out of the way and get a workout in, that was special.
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You didn't have to buy a million things of equipment to be able to do all the workouts.
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Did you ever have imposter syndrome as an entrepreneur?
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Because you finally turned it up when you were what, like 27?
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Yes, 27.
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That's so young to be like, oh, I just casually own this multi-million dollar brand.
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Well, I mean, it took a while to build.
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Yeah.
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I think one of the things for me always, even with like the big silence, which we can talk about, is it's always purpose driven and never financially driven.
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Mm hmm.
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But when I was a kid, I always was like open it, like doing yard sales or having a kitchen in my basement where I would make mud into mud pies and serve it to my parents.
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Like I always was like doing something or after school, I would have teaching curriculums and teach to my imaginary students.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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Kids still do that?
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I'm like, am I crazy?
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I would like talk to my, imagine me in my basement in Indiana.
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Yeah.
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After school with a chalkboard talking to my students.
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I'm like, am I crazy?
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No, you were literally, you were manifesting your life now, which is like you're a public speaker.
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You're a leader.
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Like all these things.
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Yeah.
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Are you into like astrology?
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Have you looked into that?
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I'm not hugely, no.
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I'm an Aries.
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Can you tell me something?
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Oh my God.
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Oh my God, about being an Aries.
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Well, I'm a Leo, so we like vibe.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I don't know a ton about Aries.
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I'm married to one too.
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Are you?
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Yeah.
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But I feel like Aries gets shit done.
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Like when you guys like decide to do something, you're like, get the fuck out of my way.
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I'm doing this.
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I would say for me, I'm...
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I'm not afraid of a challenge.
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You know, my background, you know, growing up and been through it all already.
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Like, what could be worse?
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I'm not afraid of something not being successful, of someone judging you.
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I mean, we were just before recording.
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Sometimes people judging us can hurt.
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Yeah, you're human.
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It's okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I've got that fire in me for sure.
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Hell yeah.
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Is there a piece of advice that you would give to young entrepreneurs who are maybe afraid of taking a big swing the way you did?
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I mean, it would go back to what I just said.
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Take the risk because what do you have to lose?
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Back then, we didn't raise any money.
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I feel like in today's world, a lot of brands raise money and build the brand and then try to build community where we were always –
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let's just build a community because this is going to be fun.
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I mean, we were even like, we could on YouTube get some like Google ads.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It was like never, it was just like, let's do something fun and bring people together.
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And it's a very different world in people building brands.
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Say there's a nutrition company, they build a nutrition company and then try to spend money on marketing and ad sales to expand that.
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And we never did that.
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And even to this day, still not doing it.
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I probably should because it is a different world these days.
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But yeah, it's always just been organic.
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That's so cool.
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Well, and I do feel like TIU girlies, like we stick around.
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We want to know what you're up to.
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We're like so invested in the brand because we found you during like formative years, you know, which is really special.
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I have a question for you.
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Going back to TikTok, which I know you're not super active on.
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I'm going to get there.
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Yet.
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Yeah.
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Just wait.
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Okay.
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I'm going to be the biggest.
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I'm going to start dancing.
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Please.
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We need it.
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But like there are so many, maybe you see this on Instagram too.
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There's so many social media trends around like women's fitness being like, you have to do Pilates if you want to be built this way.
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Or like lifting makes you bulky or like running spikes your cortisol.
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As someone who's like been in the wellness space for so long, what do you think about all of that on the internet?
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Yeah.
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I think you do whatever makes you feel good.
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For myself, I've gone through phases of being a triathlete.
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Even Bobby, my husband, has signed up for an Ironman that he's doing in April.
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I'm like, I'm good.
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I'm good.
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Even today, he texted me this morning.
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He's like, I signed up for a 10K in Austin on April 12th or something.
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You want to join me?
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I was like, no.
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You're like, love you, babe, but good luck.
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You know, I've gone through my triathlon stage.
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I've gone through my yoga stage.
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I've gone through lifting.
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I've gone through HIIT.
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And I'm currently in my walk and weightlifting stage.
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And then, of course, meditation, which is really important.
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I did that this morning.
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I feel like I'm in L.A. right now, and I lived here for 20 years.
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And then I'm back where I get very anxious being here.
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And so this morning I had to sit myself down, light this little candle, and just breathe.
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So I'm in my...
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strength, walk outside, meditate stage.
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Sounds like a gorgeous life.
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How long have you been meditating for again?
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Gosh, I introduced it to Tone It Up about in like 2019, maybe.
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We didn't have it in the app at first because some people thought it was like too woo-woo, but now it's like so mainstream.
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Yeah.
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But I've been doing it for probably 15 years.
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That's the thing.
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I feel like you're so ahead of the curve in that way because I think also like putting fitness and mindfulness together, I feel like a lot of other brands just focus on fitness or like, if you want to look this way, you have to do this way.
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And it's almost coming from this like restrictive place as opposed to, like you said, like doing what feels good and kind of like thinking of movement as like a gift to yourself.
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Yeah.
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It's whatever makes me feel good and motivates me.
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Yeah.
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Period.
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Are there any like TIU hacks that like to this day you swear by if you're like, I want to feel really hot for this thing I have coming up.
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TIU hacks.
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I don't know.
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Bring some up from the old days.
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I'm like, um, I, I love the five day detox and the seven day slim down.
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Those are fucking amazing.
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I put apple cider vinegar and like a huge Stanley cup every day, which is like, I literally feel like it makes me hotter.
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I do love apple cider vinegar.
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I was going to ask, did you have to train yourself to like it or did you always like kind of mess with it?
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I was doing apple cider vinegar pre-TIU.
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You're like, you're an OG.
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OG ACV.
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Like it was post like meals and stuff at that time.
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And I actually introduced Kat to apple cider vinegar.
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And the first time she did it, she was like disgusted.
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But then you realize it just helps.
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Even when I go to any doctors or, you know, they're like, do you do apple cider vinegar?
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And I'm like, absolutely.
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And enzymes.
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So it's just, it makes me feel good for digestion.
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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It just keeps everything moving.
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I want to be moving.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Moving in all the ways.
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You announced that you bought back Tone It Up in December.
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How has it been?
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How has this first month of having that information out there been?
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Incredible.
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Incredible.
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Ah, my heart.
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I was losing sleep.
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It was a six-month negotiation for that one.
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And then the six months prior, there was a different deal being negotiated.
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So it was like a year of lawyers every day, which is extremely exhausting.
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So then I wanted to give myself a time to breathe.
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Because everyone that was close to me was like, well, what's your plan?
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What are you doing?
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Can I just breathe for once?
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I...
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This is so special to me.
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I want to experience this feeling before I announce it.
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So I think it was September or October, maybe October, that the deal was actually done.
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And then I announced it in December.
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That's major.
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And so in between that time, I was reaching out to all the trainers.
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Yeah.
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Who are in the current new year, new TIU.
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Major.
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And I'm a very shy person, actually.
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And for me to just be like, should I text them?
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And everyone's like, what's up?
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Good to hear from you.
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And then get on the phone with everyone and Steph and Tori and Chyna and Christina.
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I was like, you don't have to tell me an answer today.
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You can tell me to F off.
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But within 24 hours, each of them called me back and were like, I'm so in.
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Oh, my heart.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the first episode of Tone It Down, it made my heart so happy to just hear all of y'all like kiki-ing together.
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Yeah, it was so fun.
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And they flew out to Austin to do the shoot.
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It was like time had not passed.
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And actually, Chyna and Steph are coming here tomorrow to do a longer version, solo versions of the podcast.
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Oh, my God.
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I know, you can probably...
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I can't wait.
21:12
I'm a subscriber, obviously.
21:13
I can't wait to listen.
21:16
So you founded The Big Silence 2, like podcast, foundation.
21:20
It's also the title of your memoir.
21:23
What was it like shifting from being like, you kind of talk about this in your book too, being like the smiley girls on the beach and then kind of pivoting to being just this very open, vulnerable mental health advocate?
21:33
Yeah.
21:34
I felt like it was necessary for myself to be more authentic to myself.
21:41
Because in founding Tone It Up, we had a discussion of no one can know about your past.
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There's such a stigma around it.
21:49
And then I was just feeling icky.
21:52
Like not being me.
21:53
And I'm like, well, if I'm going through this and feeling this way and I experienced this, who else within the community or outside the community who wants to be a part of it is like, wait, me too.
22:05
And it was another scary thing.
22:07
I do a lot of scary things.
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Yeah.
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It was actually incredible.
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Once I released the book, which took me five years to write.
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Yeah.
22:18
I was doing a billion other things too.
22:20
And so many people came forward.
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And even still, audiobook came out.
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People keep coming out and be like, oh my gosh, my brother, my sister, I am this way.
22:29
And I was like, this is coming full circle.
22:32
And as I grow forward.
22:35
The importance of fitness, mental health, physical health, meditation, everything.
22:39
I think it's something that we need to openly discuss with each other so that we can live our fullest life.
22:46
I agree.
22:46
And also if the like mission statement of Tone It Up is to empower women, I think you being open and vulnerable is empowering women in a different way because you're making it, you're removing the stigma and the shame.
22:57
You talk about it too.
22:58
I was listening to your podcast today with your dad.
23:00
Oh my God.
23:01
He's so adorable.
23:03
Oh my God.
23:04
You're going to make his day.
23:07
And I think, I don't know if it was that one.
23:09
I was on a walk today.
23:10
I was just listening to your podcast.
23:12
Something you were talking about going on medication or something.
23:15
And your new therapist.
23:16
How's that going?
23:17
Oh, my gosh.
23:17
Obsessed.
23:18
Yeah.
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Cried immediately when I saw her face because I was like, I just need someone to talk to.
23:22
But it was the best.
23:23
Yeah.
23:23
Yeah.
23:24
Yeah.
23:25
I think it's important you talk about it, too.
23:26
And there's no shame in whatever is going on.
23:29
I'm like, yeah.
23:31
Some days I'm like, give me those nets.
23:33
Yeah, hand them over.
23:34
I mean, it's also interesting how the fitness and wellness space, how those conversations have evolved since 2009, where back then I think it wasn't talked about as much.
23:45
And so I can understand why as a fitness brand, it was like, well, we don't really need to go there.
23:49
And now I think it just adds to the experience of investing in you as a founder and everything you have going on.
23:56
And it makes other people feel less alone.
23:58
Yeah.
23:58
Yeah.
23:59
Yeah, I love it.
24:01
So you talked about like in your book and like on your podcasts, growing into yourself and getting better at sort of like establishing boundaries like in your life.
24:09
And I was kind of curious, what has that journey been like for you, like in your personal life and as a business owner?
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I had no boundaries until 2017.
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We both had to just like sigh.
24:21
Take that in.
24:22
Living life without boundaries, without saying no, without being like, this isn't healthy for me.
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This isn't what I want to really do.
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So then I'm anxious.
24:33
So then there was someone in L.A. that I've worked with, Gwen Dittmar, and she's just amazing.
24:40
And I worked with her for initially six months before going on the Tone Rope tour because I was like,
24:46
I'm about to embark in something major.
24:49
I need to know how to set my boundaries, how to structure my time, how to be out there and do what I love.
24:55
Because when I'm going on stage or I'm speaking or teaching a workout or doing a podcast, I love it.
25:01
But I need to give myself permission to then be like,
25:05
I'm going to go in there.
25:06
Yeah.
25:07
Reach harder.
25:08
Yeah.
25:09
And for so long, being an introvert, and that's the other thing that's changed a lot over the past 15 years, is that being an introvert is not a stigma anymore.
25:19
Have you noticed that?
25:20
No, we're a powerful community.
25:21
Yeah.
25:22
And you can be outgoing and still be like, but I'm an introvert.
25:25
Yeah.
25:26
I love you.
25:26
I love being around you.
25:28
But now I'm going to step over here.
25:29
Don't take that personally.
25:30
This is the boundary that I need.
25:32
But I know that I am here for you.
25:34
And back in the day, too, at some of the Toner Up retreats, I had heard people were like, Karina's such a bitch.
25:44
I don't know.
25:45
I was like, well, this is told to me by someone else.
25:47
I'm like, really?
25:48
I was like, I'm shy.
25:49
Yeah, those are very different things.
25:52
Yeah.
25:52
And I've learned over the years, I'm not as shy.
25:55
I'm reaching out to you on TikTok and like, hey, Hannah, I want to meet you.
26:01
So I'm very, I'm reaching out to trainers.
26:03
You know, over the years I've worked on that.
26:06
I think just with my childhood and everything, I became very introverted.
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So I've worked on loving the extroverted.
26:14
Isn't there a new word now too?
26:16
Is there?
26:17
I need to find it.
26:18
What's the new word where you're like both?
26:22
Or trovert.
26:23
I'm totally making that up.
26:27
No, there's like an actual term now.
26:29
I don't know.
26:30
I'm like, we'll find it.
26:31
We'll find it.
26:32
We'll claim it.
26:33
But what about you and boundaries?
26:34
Like what was your...
26:35
I'm still learning that.
26:36
That's part of why I'm like crying in therapy is because I like grew up around like a lot of people pleasing.
26:42
And so... What is it?
26:45
Ambovert.
26:45
Ambovert.
26:46
Ambovert.
26:46
Like A-M?
26:47
A-M.
26:49
Ambivert.
26:50
It sounds like a dinosaur.
26:51
Wait, what's the definition of it?
26:52
I want to make sure.
26:55
There's all types of blends and traits of both.
27:00
introverts who recharge alone and extroverts who recharge socially, allowing them to enjoy social situations, but also need quiet time to recharge their energy.
27:08
They're flexible, adopting their behavior to the situation and they can be outgoing or reserved as needed, making them good communicators and negotiators.
27:15
Oh my God.
27:16
Okay.
27:17
Humble brag.
27:19
Humble brag.
27:20
Ambrovert here.
27:21
I'm going to stop saying I'm an intro.
27:23
I'm an ambrovert.
27:24
Ambrovert.
27:25
Ambro.
27:26
No.
27:26
Marlon.
27:30
We got there.
27:31
We figured you learn something new every day.
27:33
But yeah, it's like, it can be so scary as a people pleaser.
27:37
Cause that's like a learned behavior for me where it's like, my body literally goes into fight or flight where it's like, if I say no, I feel like everyone's going to find out that I'm a bad person.
27:46
And so I'm learning how to like make boundaries in a way that's like healthy.
27:49
And also like sometimes making a boundary is just being like, I'm disengaging from this person.
27:53
I literally can't do this anymore.
27:55
Yeah.
27:55
Yeah, that can be very healthy.
27:57
Yeah.
27:58
Yeah, it's hard, though.
28:00
You inspire me.
28:02
But do you think with you, with boundaries, because I know me growing up with a schizophrenic mother, and I was people-pleasing her forever and ever, and that's like how I became, like, there's no boundaries.
28:16
What do you need, Mom?
28:16
What do you need?
28:17
Even the last five years of her life, I'm like, what do you need?
28:19
How can I take care of you?
28:20
Let me...
28:22
You know, the doctors, this, buy you a house, a car, this, take care of you hours a day.
28:27
Like, was it something from your youth?
28:30
And I know your dad's going to listen to this.
28:32
He's amazing and perfect.
28:34
But was there something?
28:35
Well, I know your mom also died.
28:37
Yeah.
28:38
Yeah, I think it was a lot of like, with Love and Light, like I think with my mom, like I think I was sort of, I wanted to be like easy for her to parent.
28:46
So I just took my needs and like put them over here and like really invested in taking care of her.
28:51
And so it's like kind of a similar dynamic where it's like,
28:54
At the end of the day, like looking back, I'm like, oh, but I was a kid who didn't feel like I was allowed to like have needs.
28:59
And so as an adult, like it's my default is to just abandon my needs and be like, it's not that big of a deal.
29:04
I'll just figure it out.
29:05
And then you're quietly dying inside or resenting people or just things that aren't ultimately healthy for you or your relationships.
29:12
Yeah.
29:13
Yeah.
29:14
Well, you got this.
29:15
Yeah.
29:15
When did you first start going to therapy or the psychology?
29:17
I've dabbled throughout my life.
29:19
With my new therapist, I've only had one session.
29:21
Your dad said he took you when you were like three years old.
29:23
Yeah, because I was having like night terrors.
29:25
Oh, I had that at five years old.
29:28
I literally would like hallucinate like big prehistoric bugs on the ceiling.
29:31
Like I had like horrible anxiety as a child.
29:34
It's crazy.
29:35
You're like, same girl.
29:38
But yeah, I'm hugely into therapy.
29:41
Yeah.
29:41
But I've also had therapists that like give me like mad anxiety who like they kind of try and treat me like a bestie.
29:47
And like I need like a doctor.
29:49
So I've done all types of therapy.
29:51
And if you need suggestions of people in L.A., I can go to you.
29:55
But talk therapy doesn't do it to me or for me.
29:59
I need homework.
30:00
I need you to challenge me.
30:01
I need you to give me assignments.
30:03
I need you to give me that permission to give permission to myself to stand up to someone to set those boundaries.
30:10
But like so much homework, that inner child work and the writing letters to yourself.
30:14
And that's been the best for me is that type of work.
30:18
I had one therapist I was like, despised.
30:22
Because she would just be like, what do you want to talk about today?
30:24
Yeah.
30:25
And I'm like, I don't know.
30:27
And then I would like talk, talk, talk.
30:29
And she's like, okay, time's up.
30:31
I was like, what do I do?
30:32
She's like, just change your feelings.
30:34
Oh, my God.
30:37
Oh my God.
30:38
What do you mean?
30:39
Tell them, like, I want to work on myself.
30:41
You're like, that's why I'm here.
30:43
Just change my thoughts and my feelings.
30:46
I once had a friend tell me, like, Hannah, I'm pretty sure your therapist is like that person that a bunch of people went to high school with.
30:51
And they go, how did she end up being a therapist?
30:54
And I was like, damn, everyone does know someone who became a therapist where you're like, that's an interesting path for you.
30:59
So I'm glad you found someone better, but nothing pisses me off more.
31:02
It's like, if I knew what was wrong with me, I wouldn't be here.
31:05
If I knew how to handle it, I wouldn't be paying $150 a session because insurance doesn't care.
31:12
Anyways.
31:12
On that note, I'm just going to throw out there with the big silence.
31:15
That's like one of our biggest programs is therapy for all.
31:18
So we pay, we sponsor therapy for those whose health insurance doesn't cover it or they don't have health insurance.
31:24
Just throwing that in there.
31:25
As you should.
31:26
That's amazing because it really should be more accessible for people.
31:29
Yeah.
31:31
Are you down to play a little game, a little TIU themed game?
31:34
It's called Feel the Burn.
31:36
And it's inspired by all the times I felt the burn during a TIU workout.
31:39
Having another sip of wine.
31:41
So I'm going to ask you just some fun burning questions about TIU lore.
31:44
Okay, okay.
31:45
Okay.
31:46
How did you get your tan so perfect when you filmed those TIU videos on the beach?
31:51
Oh my God.
31:52
So much tanner.
31:54
We did not go to a tanning bed.
31:56
That was me when I was in high school.
31:58
Terrible.
31:59
We would do like three or four layers the night before shoot and then lay in bed in a hotel room.
32:06
Usually we were like in Turks and Caicos or Jamaica.
32:10
Like disgusting.
32:12
Boyfriends, husbands at the time were like, you're gross.
32:16
I was like, gotta do it.
32:17
And then on top of that, we would put like this bronzer.
32:22
What is it?
32:23
My makeup artist friend of 20 years, Jenna Anton, had this bronzer that she would always bring on set.
32:28
And we would just layer that on.
32:31
Like we were thick.
32:32
Oh, my God.
32:33
And it never.
32:35
That's what I was wondering.
32:35
Did it transfer?
32:36
Did it melt?
32:38
It was major because it would take like three people to put a sports bra on.
32:43
Because you just had to kind of stand there.
32:45
And like raise it over.
32:46
And then, yeah.
32:48
Sometimes we'd put the cream on, like the other tan or the topical layer or whatever it's called, after the outfit was on.
32:54
So you'd have to like roll down your pants.
32:56
Don't move.
32:58
Like, yeah.
32:59
It was...
33:00
there was not a line.
33:01
Like you guys, like those tans were perfect.
33:04
And it was like the 2010s.
33:05
So I felt like tans were like on another level.
33:08
I mean, wasn't that, yeah.
33:09
Right.
33:09
Wasn't that when like, what is the reality show?
33:12
The Jersey shore.
33:12
Yes.
33:12
Yeah.
33:13
It's like we were tan.
33:14
That was the vibe back then.
33:16
Yeah.
33:17
And I still watch those videos and I'm like, yeah, I want to be that.
33:19
Yeah.
33:19
Yeah.
33:19
Yeah.
33:19
Yeah.
33:19
Yeah.
33:19
Yeah.
33:20
Yeah.
33:20
I think like that, the muscles pop.
33:22
And then we would put like sunscreen over your abs because it glistens.
33:27
So then you have more of a six pack.
33:29
Life hack.
33:30
I need to do that this summer because I'm like, I'm still working on my abs, but if I can glisten, I want to glisten.
33:35
Can you tell us any tea about the TAU retreats and would they ever come back?
33:40
You have to ask me specific tea.
33:42
Okay.
33:42
Okay.
33:43
And then would they come back?
33:44
Yes.
33:47
We're actually planning one in the fall.
33:51
Small.
33:51
I want to start smaller.
33:52
Okay.
33:52
Okay.
33:53
Okay.
33:54
So stay tuned.
33:56
But, and then I want to do more.
33:57
Like one of my big goals is just connection.
33:59
Even like when reacquiring TAU, I've noticed how many women are like, thank you for doing this.
34:06
Oh my gosh, I have my TAU girls back.
34:08
My community is back.
34:09
Are you going to do retreat?
34:10
Like there's so much like around that.
34:14
And I, for myself too, like we're older, it's hard to make friends and get together and have fun without the pressure, without the judgment.
34:22
So yes, it's hard.
34:23
And just like be girls together.
34:25
So fun.
34:26
And with boundaries, like you don't have to do everything.
34:29
Like I've got a good retreat coming up.
34:31
Des and I have already scouted out the place and it's great.
34:35
Oh my God.
34:36
Okay.
34:36
I have plans in the fall.
34:40
The tea around the retreats.
34:41
Yeah.
34:42
Oh yeah.
34:42
Okay.
34:43
Someone commented that you cried at a retreat.
34:46
Were you sad?
34:47
Yeah.
34:48
I've seen that a few times where, oh my God, Karina, I think it was when Brody Jenner was at the Newport retreat.
34:56
If I saw him in person, I would cry too.
34:58
He's so hot.
34:59
He was.
35:00
I wasn't crying over him.
35:02
He actually... That's a different story.
35:04
Anyway, so he was like DJing there.
35:07
What people don't know and what I can share is that the reason I was crying behind Brody Jenner while he's DJing is because there was a health scare in an ambulance backstage and someone had to go to the hospital.
35:19
That's scary.
35:20
And it was very emotional.
35:22
There was no...
35:23
like no other tea other than like, oh my gosh, this person that I love is not doing okay.
35:30
And they, yeah.
35:31
That's really scary.
35:32
Oh my gosh.
35:33
I don't blame you.
35:35
Compassionate queen.
35:36
See, I'm not hired off Craigslist and I wasn't crying backstage for nothing.
35:41
I'm literally so glad we can clear this up.
35:44
Did you ever struggle to get through videos when you were like filming on the beach in the heat?
35:49
Yeah, that's why I don't film on the beach in the heat anymore.
35:52
Imagine like being in Turks and Caicos.
35:54
It's a hundred degrees.
35:56
And you were, at the time, still doing burpees and jump squats.
36:01
And back then, too, we didn't have it where we would do multiple camera angles.
36:06
So you would do the workouts over and over again.
36:09
So you're talking, we would wake up at 3 a.m. because, you know, glam.
36:14
Obviously.
36:15
Now I'm a little less, like, glam.
36:17
You look very glam.
36:18
Thank you.
36:19
I spent 20 minutes versus three hours.
36:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:22
No hair extensions.
36:23
I mean, someday I make a buck.
36:24
You like hair extensions?
36:25
Yeah.
36:27
I don't even think you get beach babe hair.
36:29
Oh my gosh.
36:29
This is like really exposing some tears.
36:32
All these years I was like, they're mermaids.
36:37
Mermaid workout, one of my favorites.
36:38
I'm sharing way too much.
36:41
I'm an idiot.
36:42
Of course they were extensions.
36:43
Okay, keep going.
36:44
I mean, they were great.
36:45
They looked really good.
36:47
Yeah.
36:47
I wouldn't have known.
36:47
I think back in the day it was like clippins or something.
36:50
Your hair is amazing.
36:51
Yeah, thank you.
36:52
No, I don't have extensions.
36:52
It is real.
36:53
Wow.
36:54
See, you got your mermaid hair.
36:56
Thank you.
36:56
It's like this all over my body.
36:58
That's the only thing that's like, it's like big toe, mustache.
37:01
Like, you know, I got to keep it in check.
37:03
But I did your guys' like hair tutorial with the curls and your cat eye tutorial, which we both have today.
37:10
I always had a cat eye.
37:11
Me too.
37:12
That's like just my thing.
37:13
I don't care that it's millennial.
37:14
I don't give a fuck.
37:15
Is it millennial?
37:15
Gen Z is mean about the cat eye and I'm like.
37:16
Because they're using like brown eyeshadow and like creating like a fake cat eye but with eyeshadow and it's like.
37:23
I'm like, it's the same thing.
37:25
It's a cat eye.
37:27
Makes me feel sexy.
37:28
Yeah.
37:29
Love it.
37:30
Did you ever get sand in your sneakers and was that annoying?
37:32
I got sand everywhere.
37:35
You're like everywhere.
37:38
And it was like showering at the end of, okay, showering at the end of the day of shoot day.
37:42
Can you imagine the amount of tanner falling off?
37:45
The sand, the like stink.
37:48
Oh my gosh.
37:50
I'm like really de-glamorizing it.
37:53
Amazing.
37:54
Relatable queen.
37:55
These are the things I never think about though.
37:57
Speaking of aspirational aspects of these videos, did you feel so powerful when you guys would film those intros, like the Break a Sweat one and the Deasy Daisy one when you guys were on the little Ferris wheel?
38:08
How fun was that?
38:09
I literally was... That footage altered my brain chemistry.
38:11
I was like, I've never seen cooler people in my life.
38:13
I was recently trying to see if those videos are still out there.
38:16
Are they on YouTube?
38:17
I need to deep dive.
38:17
The Break a Sweat intro got cut, and I was like, maybe that's a copyright thing.
38:21
I don't know.
38:22
Well, now that Becky G is massive.
38:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:24
She was at the Create and Cultivate event, and I should have gone up to her.
38:28
I was telling Dez, I was like, that's Break a Sweat Becky G. We're back in the day.
38:31
She had just come out, and we actually talked to her label and got permission to use it.
38:36
Oh, my God.
38:37
But...
38:39
But Deezy Daisy too.
38:40
That song.
38:41
Deezy Daisy.
38:42
Deezy Daisy.
38:43
Oh, and that was like dancing on the beach.
38:45
I was like, they're so fucking cool.
38:47
I mean, no one in fitness has done that.
38:49
And I still do it a bit too with like marketing stuff and telling a story.
38:53
And I love that because I love putting, it's like a little mini movie and inspirational of like how you're going to feel.
38:59
Yes.
39:00
And so much fun.
39:02
So much work went into planning all of that.
39:04
And remember the time we rented a yacht.
39:07
Iconic.
39:08
I think it was the same shoot as the Ferris wheel.
39:12
Oh, my God.
39:13
Oh, yeah, because you were, like, running, like, across the deck in bikinis.
39:17
Probably.
39:18
Yeah, I was, like, you were selling, like, a lifestyle, yeah, of just, like, having fun, being a hot girl, living your best life.
39:26
Yeah, I mean, now we're just selling a lifestyle of taking naps.
39:29
I mean, that's an important lifestyle as well.
39:31
I would argue the most important.
39:33
I'm just kidding.
39:34
And being a pom mom.
39:36
That's an important lifestyle as well.
39:38
Shout out to all of your poms.
39:39
Seven.
39:40
Seven.
39:40
And OG Skunky.
39:43
She's 15 or 16 now.
39:45
Celebrity icon Skunk.
39:46
She is thriving.
39:48
Thriving.
39:48
Bravo reality stars.
39:49
Yeah.
39:50
Oh my gosh.
39:51
You inspired me to watch that entire series again over the holidays.
39:55
What was a rewatch like for you?
39:57
Well, Bobby had never watched every episode.
39:59
Oh my God.
40:01
And it was, I watched it with Desiree like maybe a year ago.
40:06
Two and a half years ago.
40:08
It's a good rewatch.
40:09
And it's so interesting now because I can watch it with a smile and like laugh and have fun and have all those memories.
40:16
And I've actually had a lot of people come up now and be like, you need a reality show again.
40:21
I was like, it could be fun.
40:23
Oh my God.
40:24
Bravo.
40:24
Are you listening?
40:25
Bravo.
40:26
Please.
40:29
Yeah, please.
40:31
We need it.
40:32
I mean, when you and Bobby went on that date on the show, I was like, he's so obsessed with her, and it's so cute to see.
40:38
Okay, that's the other thing on the toilet board.
40:40
Yeah, we need the Bobby T. It's true.
40:42
He moved in below me.
40:44
The day we started filming, I remember the date, it was October 1st, whatever year.
40:49
We had mutual friends, and he had a Facebook message to me.
40:53
He was going through a breakup.
40:54
He wanted to move from...
40:56
East side in LA somewhere and moved to Manhattan beach.
41:00
And he's like, if anything opens up a two bedroom, me and my friend Eddie want to move there.
41:05
I had lived upstairs, had broken up with a boyfriend.
41:07
So I was single.
41:08
I stayed there.
41:09
I had monkey and skunky.
41:11
My neighbor downstairs broke up with her boyfriend moving out.
41:15
And I messaged Bobby on Facebook.
41:17
It's like, Hey, this is apartments available.
41:20
And he's like, sounds perfect.
41:22
This is going to get weird.
41:24
I was like, Oh,
41:25
Oh, immediately.
41:27
We basically like started dating immediately.
41:29
And then as we're talking about the Bravo show, he moved in.
41:32
I didn't even tell him we were filming a TV show, but there's like producers and everyone in the garage below.
41:38
And he's like, what's going on here?
41:39
I was like, oh, we're just filming a show.
41:43
And you're like, what did we just move into?
41:45
Because it's only two units.
41:47
So we were just there.
41:48
And then we basically lived there.
41:52
together from day one.
41:52
He was like down to be on the show.
41:54
He's like, I'll sign that release.
41:55
Well, we were on a lunch break from filming and I was telling Kat something.
42:00
I was like, I made out with a neighbor last night.
42:02
I was like, just kissing.
42:05
And Stephanie, our producer, creeped over to our lunch table.
42:09
She's like, what'd you say?
42:11
Oh.
42:12
And I was like, yeah, just Bobby, the neighbor, you've met him.
42:16
She's like, huh?
42:17
So apparently then they go knocking on his door with a release and are saying, will you film?
42:24
Oh, my God.
42:25
And he was like, yeah.
42:26
Yeah.
42:26
Oh, my God.
42:27
Ladies, if he wanted to, he would.
42:28
Okay?
42:29
Okay?
42:30
That's incredible.
42:31
You guys are so cute.
42:33
And I mean, it worked out.
42:34
You're still married to this day.
42:35
Yeah.
42:35
10 years this year, married, 13 years together.
42:39
Congratulations.
42:40
That's incredible.
42:41
Yeah.
42:42
Oh, I love that.
42:43
Wait, oh, there was a chair in your apartment on the show.
42:46
And there was sort of some discourse around the chair.
42:49
Like, oh, this chair is like, Brian was like, this chair is too girly.
42:52
I don't want it.
42:53
And you guys were like, we love it.
42:55
What happened to the chair?
42:59
I was like so over that chair.
43:00
But then Bobby wanted to keep it.
43:03
So he had it in storage for a while.
43:05
And then when my mom, we got her a cabin up in Idlewild, we put the chair there.
43:11
And Bobby's like, it's perfect for the cabin.
43:13
And then once she passed and we were selling the cabin, I was like, just get rid of the chair.
43:18
It's been through too much.
43:19
Yeah.
43:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:20
And Bobby secretly did not get rid of the chair.
43:22
He kept it in secret?
43:24
Yeah.
43:24
And so it was in storage.
43:26
And then as I was building the Tone It Down podcast studio, he's like, what about the chair?
43:32
He's like, aren't you glad I didn't get rid of it?
43:34
So now the wave painting that's in the show and the chair are in the Tone It Down podcast studio in Austin.
43:41
I'm emotional.
43:42
Yeah.
43:43
I have the chills.
43:44
That's really special.
43:45
That's T.I.U.
43:46
Lore right there, that chair.
43:48
And it's a fun chair.
43:50
It is.
43:50
I'm glad we have it, Bobby.
43:52
Yeah.
43:53
And I loved your apartment on the show.
43:54
It was so, like, beachy and cute.
43:55
Yeah.
43:56
It was very teal.
43:57
Yeah.
43:57
It was very teal.
43:58
But that was also, like, the color of that time.
44:00
Yeah.
44:00
It was mermaid core.
44:02
Well, it's coming back to, I mean, I'm coming back to like teal and pinks.
44:06
Back to your roots.
44:07
Yeah.
44:08
I took a few years of just like only wearing black, but now I'm, I'm getting colorful again.
44:13
I love that.
44:14
It's like a gorgeous metaphor for where you're at in your life.
44:16
Yeah.
44:17
Not that you were like depressed before, but you're in this like fun era now.
44:20
My fun era.
44:21
Speaking of clothes, did you get to pick your outfits for all the videos?
44:25
Yeah.
44:26
Yes.
44:26
Oh my God.
44:27
They were all so fire.
44:28
Like for the workout videos and stuff.
44:30
Yeah.
44:30
Yeah.
44:30
Oh my God.
44:31
I still strive to look that cool when I work out.
44:34
I mean, I feel like I'm getting back there.
44:39
It takes effort though.
44:40
Like it's like, it's like planning any other outfit where you're like, like I like taking the time to put my gym looks together, but sometimes I'm like, I'm just happy I'm moving.
44:47
I can't think about that today.
44:48
Yeah.
44:48
If I'm just working out by myself, ladies, I'm not always like styled when I go work out.
44:53
I'm like throw a t-shirt on, some sneakers and just work out.
44:58
Yeah.
44:58
It must be fun though to be like the owner of a fitness empire because you can really rationalize like getting all the cute comfy clothes that you want.
45:05
Like that's your work clothes.
45:06
Yeah.
45:07
Yeah.
45:07
Which is dope.
45:08
Yeah.
45:09
When it's like time to go to an event or something, are you ever like, fuck, I have so many workout clothes.
45:13
I need more going out clothes.
45:15
I have an exquisite closet.
45:17
I actually am very artistic.
45:19
So I love fashion.
45:23
So when I get a chance to go out and I do, I will dress up and have so much fun with it.
45:27
Well, your outfits in Vegas were so cute.
45:29
I saw those on Instagram.
45:30
I was like, hell yeah.
45:31
You turned out looks for that.
45:32
Yeah.
45:32
Oh my God.
45:33
You need to do like a Tic Tac like closet tour.
45:35
Yeah.
45:36
I'm like, can we see it?
45:37
We need to see it.
45:39
It's very eclectic, like from vintage to very inexpensive to name brand and luxury brand.
45:49
It's like a mix of everything.
45:50
I always feel like that's like my favorite type of style when there's like a little high-low, something that's like one of a kind with something you could like go get yourself if you wanted to.
45:58
Obsessed.
46:00
Quick pivot.
46:00
Was it ever annoying or hard to film videos when you had your period?
46:03
Yeah.
46:04
Not for me, which is crazy.
46:06
I never had cramps.
46:07
That's gorgeous.
46:08
Yeah.
46:09
I mean, it's annoying because it's like uncomfortable.
46:11
Yeah.
46:11
But like just, you know.
46:14
Oh my God.
46:14
You're like, I've been through enough.
46:15
I was blessed to not have cramps.
46:16
Yeah.
46:17
Obsessed.
46:18
Yeah.
46:18
There was an episode of Toned Up where someone crashed a work trip to, I think you were in Hawaii.
46:23
Mm-hmm.
46:24
Did you know that that was going to happen or was that really a surprise?
46:27
I did not know.
46:27
Oh, shit.
46:29
I mean, you never know with reality TV what's produced and what's not.
46:32
Right, because some is produced.
46:34
So with the show, they basically everything that we were already doing, because I was in charge of creating the schedule and letting production know, this is what we're doing for Tonerad.
46:44
This is where we're traveling.
46:45
This is blah, blah, blah.
46:47
Every day we were done filming, I was then working and doing prepping for the next day and sending info to producers and doing travel planning.
46:55
It was all really what we were doing.
46:57
There's some Purdue stuff, like when we went to a bar in Maui and I kissed some boy, they're like, what are you going to do?
47:03
That looked fun.
47:05
It was fun.
47:06
I had actually done that in real life before because I was single.
47:11
And it was like the kissing game.
47:13
Oh yeah, the kissing game.
47:15
That's a fun game.
47:16
I don't think you can do that anymore.
47:18
But...
47:20
But it was a thing.
47:22
And so then they found this boy and they were like, is it okay if she comes over and kisses you?
47:28
He's like, yeah.
47:30
That's hilarious.
47:32
I remember watching that scene being like, oh, my God, they're like so fun and cool that they're filming a fitness video tomorrow.
47:37
And they're still like, we're going to get a drink.
47:39
But that's the thing.
47:40
We wouldn't have stayed out that late naturally.
47:43
That was a lot.
47:45
Was it because of filming?
47:47
Yeah.
47:48
And we had to get like that scene.
47:50
Mm-hmm.
47:51
What do you normally do, like, the night before a shoot?
47:54
Then or now?
47:55
Honestly, both.
47:57
Then, go have some champagne.
48:03
Now, go have a glass of Sauvignon Blanc.
48:06
I love it.
48:06
You're like, I was fun then, I'm fun now.
48:08
Yeah.
48:09
I feel like so much of, like, fitness culture is, like, really restrictive.
48:12
And I appreciate that, like, you were always like, it's wine, not Wednesday.
48:16
Yeah.
48:16
Like, yeah.
48:16
You can still be a person.
48:17
Yeah.
48:18
I definitely probably was more restrictive back then in terms of like the nutrition and like what I would eat.
48:24
Now I'm very just whatever I want to eat.
48:28
Yeah.
48:29
But I'm overall just pretty healthy.
48:31
But even last night up on the rooftop, we had a burger and fries, but it's not like I'm eating all the fries.
48:37
That's the thing.
48:38
I'm not like a big food craver.
48:41
So you're like, I'll enjoy it, but I'm not going to like think about it all day long.
48:44
Yeah.
48:44
It's a good place to be.
48:46
Yeah.
48:46
Those are all my rapid fire questions for you.
48:49
Were we going to make a surprise call?
48:51
I think we have to.
48:52
Do you have?
48:53
Oh my God.
48:54
What am I going to say?
48:55
Go ahead.
48:56
Should I be like, Bobby, I swear I didn't call you a douche.
48:58
It was someone in my comments.
48:59
You can randomly ask him questions.
49:01
Oh my God.
49:01
What should I ask?
49:03
What do we want to know from Bobby?
49:05
What do we want to know from Bobby?
49:07
Let's see.
49:08
Hmm.
49:10
What was it like being Karina's hot neighbor?
49:13
Hold on.
49:15
You can just, he'll just flow.
49:17
Hold on.
49:20
I'm nervous.
49:21
Hello?
49:27
Oh, my gosh.
49:27
Hi, Bobby.
49:28
It's Hannah.
49:29
Hello, Hannah.
49:31
How are you today?
49:32
I'm great.
49:33
Oh, my gosh.
49:34
I love that we have a chorus of palms in the background.
49:37
That's gorgeous.
49:38
I can hear that.
49:40
It just kind of blends into my life at this point.
49:43
They wanted to make a podcast appearance.
49:46
I have a quick question.
49:47
Well, first I have an apology because I swear I didn't call you a douche.
49:50
Someone in my comments did, but I apologize.
49:52
I didn't even see it, but you know, sometimes maybe it could be accurate.
49:57
I mean, you and me both, Bobby.
49:59
We all have a little moment.
50:00
Yeah.
50:00
Sometimes the douchedom has to come out for the greater good.
50:04
My other question comment is what was it like being Karina's hot neighbor?
50:08
Yeah.
50:09
Ooh, that was an interesting and fun time, I would say.
50:18
Interesting.
50:20
Honestly, I have such great memories of that period of time.
50:24
It was like...
50:26
The perfect scenario of living in, you know, one of the best locations were in Manhattan Beach.
50:33
I got out of a relationship and was, you know, upset about it.
50:38
So all of a sudden this transition was a very, very easy transition from a sad time off of that.
50:45
Oh, I love that.
50:46
It's like Melrose Place.
50:47
Yeah, it basically was.
50:49
It basically was.
50:50
And you're like, it was very convenient.
50:53
We did not have to drive anywhere.
50:56
My roommate loved it.
50:57
I was moving in with my buddy, Eddie.
50:59
And shout out to Eddie.
51:01
Yeah.
51:02
Shout out, Eddie.
51:02
We split a two bedroom place.
51:04
So I just had to I had to live with monkey and skunk at the time when I would go visit Korea.
51:11
Well, I remember a time because you could hear them pitter pattering upstairs and I literally could hear you peeing.
51:20
It was not well insulated.
51:23
I guess.
51:24
Yeah.
51:25
And I was like, you probably could hear me farting.
51:29
But I do remember, too, that Karina was like, this isn't going to be serious.
51:34
Like, kind of like, you know, you just got a relationship.
51:36
Just have fun in Manhattan Beach and whatever else.
51:39
And I'm more of like a relationship person.
51:42
So if I'm, you know, dating one person, I'm dating one person.
51:47
And so I was like, oh, OK. And I was like, but you know what?
51:51
Let's venture out.
51:52
I mean, I can just imagine you, Bobby, being like, oh, bummer, I'm newly single.
51:55
Guess I have to move into this building with my friend and my hot neighbor.
51:59
Like, this sucks.
52:00
You know what?
52:02
You know, sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater good.
52:05
So we just, you know, we did what we had to do.
52:07
That's beautiful.
52:08
Thank you so much, Bobby.
52:09
Karina, do you have anything else for your husband?
52:11
No.
52:12
Send me pictures of the palms.
52:14
Love you.
52:14
No.
52:15
You'll get a lot.
52:16
Yay.
52:17
Bye.
52:17
Ciao.
52:19
Wow.
52:20
Wow.
52:21
I mean, I feel like all my dreams came true today.
52:24
All my TAU dreams came true.
52:27
This was incredible.
52:28
Thank you for starting a Toned Up Lore.
52:31
I've had a lot of fun with it.
52:34
Me too.
52:34
I hope that we answer enough questions.
52:37
I have a speakpipe.com slash Karina Dawn, where you can leave other voicemails and questions.
52:44
Oh my gosh.
52:44
Listeners, seriously.
52:46
And everyone who is here because of the TikTok series, make sure to hit up Karina with your questions.
52:52
Yay.
52:53
I'll do my best.
52:54
Yeah.
52:55
Thank you so much.
52:56
Thank you.
52:56
This has been fun.
52:57
Bye.