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- 0:05Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It's Friday, August one, twenty twenty five. Foreign agents want
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- 0:43Speaker 1: as possible to share his concerns about alleged corruption of
- 0:47Speaker 1: the highest order. Those stories alive right now at the
- 0:52Speaker 1: Australian dot Com dot A Billionaires have secrets, and not
- 0:58Speaker 1: the kind you think. It's about exactly how they spend
- 1:02Speaker 1: their money, even once they have more money than God,
- 1:06Speaker 1: and what they do with any extra that comes in.
- 1:08Speaker 1: That's one of the insights from The Australian's new Wealth section.
- 1:13Speaker 1: It's packed with insights and yarns from our team of experts. Today,
- 1:18Speaker 1: Wealth editor Julianne Sprague reveals how the rich made their
- 1:22Speaker 1: millions and what she does with her money. Henry, what
- 1:33Speaker 1: does that stand for?
- 1:35Speaker 2: Hi erna? Not rich yet?
- 1:39Speaker 1: This is Julianne Sprague. She's Wealth editor here at The Australian,
- 1:43Speaker 1: and she's spent a career reporting on how the rich
- 1:46Speaker 1: make their money and what the rest of us probably
- 1:49Speaker 1: aren't doing.
- 1:52Speaker 2: And this is where you're sort of building your career.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Your a few job promotions, in salaries, going up, earning
- 2:00Speaker 2: solid money. You're out of your university days. Do you remember, Claire,
- 2:04Speaker 2: when you just you could exist of twenty centsuls?
- 2:07Speaker 1: I just I ate a lot of two minute noodles.
- 2:11Speaker 2: I remember having to buy. I bought a can of
- 2:14Speaker 2: soup and a baguette. This is when I was living
- 2:16Speaker 2: in London. But I could make that stretch for two meals,
- 2:19Speaker 2: like a can of soup, half a bit of bread.
- 2:22Speaker 2: And so this is the problem, right, The more you earn,
- 2:24Speaker 2: the more you spent.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Julian's all over the acronyms that tell us how Australians
- 2:30Speaker 1: are feeling about their money right now. Like Emily spelled Emili,
- 2:36Speaker 1: it's short for everyday millionaire and they are estimated to
- 2:39Speaker 1: be about two million off the MI in Australia people
- 2:42Speaker 1: who are worth a million and the average wealth of
- 2:44Speaker 1: an Australian adult is eight hundred thousand. But let's be honest,
- 2:48Speaker 1: not many of us feel rich.
- 2:52Speaker 2: It used to be if you were a millionaire, it
- 2:55Speaker 2: used to be that term you threw around to say
- 2:56Speaker 2: that you were really rich. You're a millionaire as they're
- 2:59Speaker 2: splashing around. It's fancy cars and you're living the high life.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Whereas now a lot of people are millionaires and you
- 3:04Speaker 2: don't feel like you're living the high life. Actually it
- 3:07Speaker 2: feels like you're doing it really tough to try and
- 3:10Speaker 2: make ends meet. And so the reason that more of
- 3:12Speaker 2: us are Emily's everyday millionaires is because property prices are
- 3:15Speaker 2: so high and we have an overwhelming amount of wealth
- 3:18Speaker 2: tied up in either the family home or maybe it's
- 3:21Speaker 2: investment properties. So it's at our old cash as an
- 3:24Speaker 2: asset rich cash poor.
- 3:28Speaker 1: A good example is Joey Croke. He's twenty six and
- 3:32Speaker 1: has seven investment properties. His stories in the Wealth section today.
- 3:39Speaker 2: And his journey is really interesting because it started with
- 3:42Speaker 2: a loss. He actually started doing share market investing in
- 3:45Speaker 2: his teen years, which I don't know about you clever
- 3:47Speaker 2: as a teenager. I was not thinking about the share market,
- 3:51Speaker 2: but he sort of dabbled. He bought some different stocks
- 3:53Speaker 2: and then things went terribly wrong. His stockbroker went bust
- 3:56Speaker 2: or actually lost quite a bit of money that would
- 3:57Speaker 2: have probably sent me packing. He decided to save up
- 4:01Speaker 2: quite a bit more money. He saved money for his
- 4:03Speaker 2: first deposit. Eventually got money back from this broker, so
- 4:07Speaker 2: it didn't all go up in smoke, but around fifty
- 4:09Speaker 2: grand did bought his first property and then got equity,
- 4:12Speaker 2: and then decided this is what he wanted to do.
- 4:14Speaker 2: And so he's built the portfolio by looking at regional property.
- 4:17Speaker 2: So he hasn't decided that he wants to be in
- 4:19Speaker 2: a Sydney and spend two million dollars on our house.
- 4:22Speaker 2: So he does make the point that he's driving a
- 4:24Speaker 2: pretty old beat up car. His friend's going to music festivals.
- 4:27Speaker 2: He has said no to different things. He really has
- 4:29Speaker 2: sort of knuckled down to do this. It's pretty inspiring.
- 4:35Speaker 1: You went and asked some of Australia's most wealthy people
- 4:39Speaker 1: how they did it and what their advice would be
- 4:41Speaker 1: for other people, and I was intrigued that their advice
- 4:44Speaker 1: was kind of the stuff that my grandma was telling
- 4:46Speaker 1: me back when I was at UNI, although I don't
- 4:48Speaker 1: think I was listening.
- 4:49Speaker 2: I was thinking about different stories that might be good
- 4:51Speaker 2: to do when we launched this new section, and I thought, well,
- 4:53Speaker 2: I know rich listers very well and I really appreciate
- 4:57Speaker 2: their insights. Sometimes billionaires can think little bit differently, and
- 5:01Speaker 2: I was thinking, well, they're rich for a reason. And
- 5:02Speaker 2: then I think, on about the fourth interview, I was
- 5:05Speaker 2: just thinking, this is absolutely blowing my line, the simplicity
- 5:08Speaker 2: of it, but also how similar it was. I was
- 5:14Speaker 2: probably thinking there'd be some profound investment strategy. But I
- 5:18Speaker 2: spoke to a well known property developer. He was north
- 5:21Speaker 2: of five hundred million dollars, Nigel Sadley, and he just says, Julianne,
- 5:25Speaker 2: it's simple. You do a budget. And I said, okay, okay,
- 5:27Speaker 2: but I'm talking about like us Mere mortals. What can
- 5:30Speaker 2: we be doing? What did you do in the early days.
- 5:32Speaker 2: It's like budget. You have to know what's coming in
- 5:34Speaker 2: and what's coming out. And I still do it. And
- 5:36Speaker 2: then Tony Walls, who's a billionaire in control of a
- 5:39Speaker 2: software company called Objective Corp, told me that he reports
- 5:42Speaker 2: to himself monthly he has his budgets, and he hasn't
- 5:46Speaker 2: said and he reports back to himself. And I did
- 5:49Speaker 2: want to know what happens if he misses budgets. Is
- 5:51Speaker 2: there a big stern discussion, what does he call himself?
- 5:57Speaker 2: And then one after another they all sort of said
- 5:59Speaker 2: this is what they they do. I think sometimes what
- 6:01Speaker 2: it is it's simple, But often we don't do the
- 6:04Speaker 2: simple things. We know we should have more fritten vegetables
- 6:09Speaker 2: in our diet, we know we should exercise more, and
- 6:12Speaker 2: I think with finances it's probably a bit similar. There's
- 6:16Speaker 2: actually no sort of silver bullet or some sort of
- 6:20Speaker 2: magic strategy. There's actually the simple things.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Something else the rich people have been telling you in
- 6:28Speaker 1: the first stories in our well section is about what
- 6:30Speaker 1: they would do if they had fifty thousand dollars now
- 6:33Speaker 1: and they were just starting out, And a couple of
- 6:35Speaker 1: them have said, I'd go and invest in property. But
- 6:37Speaker 1: the thing that struck me about both that and about
- 6:40Speaker 1: their suggestion about doing a budget is that I think
- 6:42Speaker 1: there are lots of people who are doing a budget.
- 6:45Speaker 1: They're very careful about what they spend. They might have
- 6:47Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars saved up but they can't get into
- 6:50Speaker 1: the property market. So you're covering wealth, and you've been
- 6:54Speaker 1: covering it for a long time, but now is a
- 6:56Speaker 1: moment when times are really tough. It is really hard
- 7:00Speaker 1: to get ahead. Do you hear that frustration in the
- 7:03Speaker 1: kind of ordinary people who you talk to about money,
- 7:06Speaker 1: your friends down at the shops.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Definitely, But it does feel incredibly challenging. It feels almost
- 7:11Speaker 2: out of reach, and some of this investing narrative feels
- 7:15Speaker 2: almost intimidating. I think the point they're making those if
- 7:18Speaker 2: you've got fifty thousand dollars, find your way into the
- 7:21Speaker 2: market somewhere, so maybe that is an apartment. You don't
- 7:24Speaker 2: have to be investing where you want to end up,
- 7:26Speaker 2: so start smaller, and they make the point that you've
- 7:30Speaker 2: got to get started. So I think the issue is
- 7:33Speaker 2: that you can sometimes procrastinate or you wait for markets
- 7:35Speaker 2: to turn you just keep waiting. So their view is
- 7:38Speaker 2: you get in and you do the best you can
- 7:40Speaker 2: with where you can get in, and you let the
- 7:42Speaker 2: benefit of time help you. It was shawn by a
- 7:45Speaker 2: from the Precision Group who makes the point that sometimes
- 7:47Speaker 2: people wait for things to be perfect, or they have
- 7:49Speaker 2: an idea or you're waiting when sometimes the best plans
- 7:52Speaker 2: don't necessarily have to be the perfect ones. You just
- 7:54Speaker 2: have to start doing something.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Coming up. So how does Juliet and spend and save
- 8:01Speaker 1: her money? This is just a taste of The Australian's
- 8:05Speaker 1: new wealth offering. Check it out at the Australian dot
- 8:08Speaker 1: com dot auslash wealth and we'll be back after the break.
- 8:17Speaker 1: What have you learned in your career as a wealth
- 8:19Speaker 1: journal that you applied in your own life?
- 8:22Speaker 2: Is this the part where I tell you that I'm
- 8:23Speaker 2: the mechanic with the broken down car and the plumber
- 8:27Speaker 2: with the leaky pipe. The problem with being a journalist
- 8:33Speaker 2: is you can get a little overly cautious because for
- 8:35Speaker 2: every rich listor you write about, you're also writing about
- 8:38Speaker 2: people who have blown themselves up or stocks that have
- 8:41Speaker 2: plummeted back down to earth, and that it can make
- 8:43Speaker 2: you a little bit cautious. But there are things that
- 8:45Speaker 2: I have definitely learned, and it has been mostly from
- 8:47Speaker 2: those entrepreneurs or people who really just get out there
- 8:50Speaker 2: and they just kick these goals. But it goes back
- 8:52Speaker 2: to that earlier point I was making that they often
- 8:54Speaker 2: do the things that aren't sexy and exciting. So when
- 8:58Speaker 2: you think about budgeting, appreciate you say that a lot
- 9:00Speaker 2: lot of people will be running a household budget. But
- 9:03Speaker 2: I think that they do it to a granular detail,
- 9:05Speaker 2: and I think that they do it no matter what.
- 9:07Speaker 2: They don't let life get in the way. They also
- 9:10Speaker 2: take some risk. I will point that out. It's not
- 9:12Speaker 2: silly risk. They're curious, they read, they're educated enough, but
- 9:16Speaker 2: they also just take the pump. They do, put themselves
- 9:21Speaker 2: out there, and they let their money go work for them.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Which is why I'm not a richly stuck clare because
- 9:25Speaker 2: I've done one of those things.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Well, we're much better off having you writing about them
- 9:30Speaker 1: rather than being one of them, Jazz, because you're really
- 9:32Speaker 1: good at it.
- 9:33Speaker 2: We want to help more people feel more financially secure,
- 9:36Speaker 2: get a bit more financially independent. So you might have
- 9:39Speaker 2: your assets in property, but what else should you be
- 9:42Speaker 2: looking at. Should you diversify your investments, should you be
- 9:45Speaker 2: looking at share portfolios. Maybe you want to have another
- 9:49Speaker 2: investment property, or you want to work out how the
- 9:51Speaker 2: joey Croaks of the world can have seven and make
- 9:53Speaker 2: it work. So we're doing a lot of work in
- 9:55Speaker 2: this new vertical to try and give people the information
- 9:58Speaker 2: so you can make more confident decisions. I would say
- 10:01Speaker 2: just get on top of it.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Julian Sprague is The Australian's Wealth editor. You can check
- 10:09Speaker 1: out the section anytime at the Australian dot com dot
- 10:12Speaker 1: a U slash Wealth