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- 0:02Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. This is Radioized History Show and I'm
- 0:07your reader and host for this week, Joseph Bolt. Glad
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- 0:39you know, Radio I is a reading service intended for
- 0:42people who are blind or have other disabilities and think
- 0:45it difficult to read printed material. Well, I'll cite the
- 0:50sources as we go along. Today, I thought maybe we
- 0:55would talk today about the Titanic. Now, there's been a
- 0:59lot of stories, and we all know the story behind
- 1:03the Titanic, but I came across some articles this week
- 1:08that talk about those that survived and their lives afterwards,
- 1:15which is a little bit of a different twist from
- 1:18all the other stories we hear about the Titanic. So
- 1:21this particular story is entitled twelve Titanic Survivors whose stories
- 1:28reveal the tragedy's true scope, and it's from the website
- 1:33All That's Interesting dot Com, written by John Kroski, edited
- 1:39by Jacqueline angelis first published in June of twenty two
- 1:43and updated in April of this year, twenty twenty five.
- 1:47So let me get to reading this story of the
- 1:54estimated two thousand, two hundred and twenty four passengers and
- 1:59crew aboard the Titanic when it struck an Iceberg and
- 2:04sank on April fifteenth, nineteen twelve. Some fifteen hundred of
- 2:10those twenty two to twenty four passengers died in the
- 2:14cold waters of the North Atlantic. A mere seven hundred
- 2:20people lived on These are some of the most powerful
- 2:24stories of the Titanic survivors. The first ones that will
- 2:33look at are the Navratil Orphans. A dramatic divorce and
- 2:47scandal brought the young Michael and Edmund Navratil to the
- 2:57bow of the Titanic in nineteen ten twelve. They were
- 3:02accompanied on the voyage by their father, Michelle Navertell senior,
- 3:10who was still smarting from his recent separation from their mother,
- 3:15Marcel Correto. Marcell had won custody of the children, but
- 3:22she had allowed them to visit Michele over the Easter holiday. Michele,
- 3:28believing that his wife's infidelity made her an unsuitable guardian,
- 3:33decided to use that weekend to relocate with his children
- 3:37to the United States. He bought second class tickets on
- 3:42the Titanic and boarded the doomed ship, introducing himself to
- 3:46fellow passengers as the widower Louis M. Hoffmann, a man
- 3:52traveling with his sons Lolo and Momen. On the night
- 4:00the Titanic struck the iceberg, Navratil was able to get
- 4:04the boys aboard a lifeboat, the very last lifeboat to
- 4:10leave the ship. Michelle Junior, though only three at the time,
- 4:16remembered that just before placing him on the boat, his
- 4:19father gave him a final message and said, quote, my child,
- 4:25when your mother comes for you, as she surely will,
- 4:29tell her that I loved her dearly and still do,
- 4:33tell her. I expected her to follow us so that
- 4:37we might all live happily together in the peace and
- 4:41freedom of the New World. End quote. Those were Michele
- 4:48Navratil's last words. Though he died in the disaster, his
- 4:54sons survived. They spoke no English, and I have been
- 5:00in serious trouble in New York, but a friendly French
- 5:03speaking woman who also survived the wreck, cared for them.
- 5:10The publicity surrounding the Titantic sinking was what saved them.
- 5:17Their photographs appeared in newspapers around the world. Their mother
- 5:23home in France, had no idea where her sons had
- 5:27disappeared to and spotted their photo in the morning papers.
- 5:34On May sixteenth, more than a month after the ship sank,
- 5:39she reunited with her boys in New York and all
- 5:44three returned to France. Michele Junior would later recall the
- 5:49splendor of the Titantic and the childish sense of adventure
- 5:54he felt while getting into the lifeboat. Only when he
- 6:00grew older did he realize what had been at stake
- 6:03that night and how many had been left behind. Our
- 6:12second survivor, as you probably have heard, was the Unsinkable
- 6:20Molly Brown. Margaret Brown, famously known as the Unsinkable Molly
- 6:28Brown after she survived the wreck of the Titanic, earned
- 6:32her nickname by effectively taking over one of the ship's
- 6:36lifeboats and threatening to throw the quartermaster overboard. Her mission
- 6:43was to turn back to look for more Titanic Titanic survivors,
- 6:50and though history is a little foggy on whether or
- 6:54not she succeeded in forcing the boat back into the flotsam,
- 6:59she is remembered for her courage, and not only on
- 7:02that day. Margaret Brown grew up poor and chose to
- 7:07marry for love, a decision she thought was likely to
- 7:12keep her poor for the rest of her life. But
- 7:16her husband beat the odds and made good, and with
- 7:20her new found wealth, she became a traveler, socialite, and
- 7:25philanthropist who was never afraid to roll up her sleeves
- 7:30and get to work. She was on the Titanic because
- 7:35it was the fastest available transport to the United States,
- 7:39where a sick grandchild had caused her to cut short
- 7:43her travels in Egypt. When the ship sank, she fought
- 7:49to get as many passengers as she could onto the lifeboats,
- 7:53and was said to have taken up an oar herself.
- 7:59She put her fame. She put the fame of her
- 8:04role in the Titanic disaster. She put the fame her
- 8:17role in the Titanic disaster brought her to help rebuild
- 8:23France instead. Brown's remarkable story gave rise to both a
- 8:29Broadway musical and a film adaptation of her life. Eliza
- 8:40Melvina Dean. Eliza Gladys Melvina Dean holds a special honor
- 8:47of having been both the youngest passenger on board the
- 8:51Titanic when it sank, as well as the last living
- 8:55person to have survived the disaster. When the ship went
- 8:59down in April of nineteen twelve, she was just two
- 9:02months old. Dean and her family never intended to board
- 9:07the Titanic. They had initially booked passage to the United
- 9:12States on another ship, but a strike forced them on
- 9:15to the luxury liner instead. They were third class passengers,
- 9:22and because they were emigrating to Kansas, everything they owned
- 9:26was in their luggage. It was Dean's father who saved them.
- 9:33He had been on deck at the time of the collision,
- 9:35and he knew something was wrong. He rushed to help
- 9:39his wife dress the children and get them on deck
- 9:43quick thinking. That put them at the front of the
- 9:47growing queue of people scrambling for lifeboats. As third class passengers,
- 9:53they were at a disadvantage, but Dean, her brother, and
- 9:57her mother got on board. Dean's father never made it
- 10:01off the ship. After that, there seemed little point going
- 10:07to Kansas, so the shattered family joined a number of
- 10:11other heartbroken Titanic survivors aboard the r M s Adriatic,
- 10:17bound once more for England. On that gloomy voyage, the
- 10:23young Dean became a minor celebrity. She was a symbol
- 10:28of hope. Other survivors were pleased to see that the
- 10:30baby had been saved, and the crew took turns holding her.
- 10:35Many took photographs with her that later appeared in newspapers.
- 10:41Dean lived the rest of her life quietly, but in
- 10:44old age her Titanic fame caught up with her again.
- 10:49As the number of other survivors shrank, she was once
- 10:53more in the limelight. She received countless invitations to interviews, conventions,
- 10:59and come commemorating events. Dean died in two thousand and nine,
- 11:05and her ashes were scattered at the docks in Southampton,
- 11:08the berth from which the Titanic set sail almost one
- 11:12hundred years earlier. Here's another survivor, Miss Unsinkable Violet Jessop.
- 11:26The sinking of the Titanic was a disaster of such
- 11:29massive proportions that it tends to eclipse the tail of
- 11:32two other luxury liners, its sister ships. When the Titanic
- 11:40was built. It was one of a set of three massive,
- 11:43celebrated passenger ships, all of which encountered disaster on the
- 11:48high seas. Once, the Britannic suffered an explosion and sank
- 11:55in nineteen sixteen. The other, Thelympic, was involved in two
- 12:02devastating collisions but managed to stay afloat, and one woman,
- 12:06Violet Jessop, was unlucky enough to have been aboard all
- 12:10three as they met with disaster. Violet Jessop was an
- 12:15ocean liner stewardess, and by the time the Titanic struck
- 12:20the Iceberg on April fourteenth, nineteen twelve, Jessop had already
- 12:25survived one near fatal accident at sea. Less than a
- 12:31year earlier. She had been aboard the RMS Olympic when
- 12:34it collided with the HMS Hawk, a British warship that
- 12:39tore a massive hole in the luxury liner's side. The
- 12:42watertight compartments the White Star ships were famous for held
- 12:47and the ship made it the port. But the Titanic
- 12:51wasn't so lucky. As the ship went down. Jessup, now
- 12:55a veteran of calamity, was ordered to the top deck
- 12:59to help non English speaking passengers. According to her memoir,
- 13:04she loaded the lifeboats in modeled, calm, orderly behavior until
- 13:10she was eventually commanded to board Lifeboat sixteen. As the
- 13:16boat was being lowered into the water, one of the
- 13:18officers gave Jessp a baby to look after. After a
- 13:22long night in the ocean. Both she and the baby
- 13:25made it to the rescue ship, where a woman, presumably
- 13:29the baby's mother, grabbed the child and ran off without
- 13:34saying a word. Jessp retired from her maritime career in
- 13:40nineteen fifty with the nickname Miss Unsinkable, and she died
- 13:45in nineteen seventy one at the age of eighty three.
- 13:53Frederick Fleet, the man who yelled Iceberg right Ahead. Frederick Fleet,
- 14:02a British sailor, was just twenty five years old when
- 14:05he signed on as a crewman on the Titanic. He
- 14:09was one of five lookouts on the ill fated voyage,
- 14:12and it was Fleet who made the famous call to
- 14:14the bridge Iceberg right Ahead. At ten p m. On
- 14:21the night of April fourteenth. He took to the frigid
- 14:24Crow's nests with his watch partner, a man named Reginald Lee.
- 14:30The departing team warned them to look out for small
- 14:33bits of ice in the water, a difficult task. On
- 14:35a moonless night, at eleven thirty nine p m, with
- 14:41just twenty minutes left in his shift, Fleet spotted the
- 14:46iceberg suddenly off the bow. Panicked, he ran the rang
- 14:50the bell and notified the bridge. By the time his
- 14:54shift ended at midnight, people were already swarming to the lifeboats.
- 15:00He was ordered to row lifeboats six, the same one
- 15:03occupied by the unsinkable Molly Brown, and got his group
- 15:08of survivors to safety on the nearby r M S.
- 15:14Carpath Carpathian. Fleet's reception on land was mixed. Though he
- 15:23had spotted the iceberg, his roll in the sinking became
- 15:26the subject of a number of inquiries. The world wanted
- 15:30to know whether the disaster could have been avoided. Fleet
- 15:35always insisted that he could have prevented it if he
- 15:39had just had binoculars, something the Titanic's watch crew had
- 15:43asked for and been denied. As he reached old age,
- 15:49he suffered from depression and ultimately committed suicide in nineteen
- 15:55sixty five. The next survivor we'll talk about difficult name
- 16:07to pronounce here Masabumi Hosano, the only Japanese person aboard
- 16:15the Titanic. Masabumi Hossano ultimately endured the scorn of his
- 16:20countrymen for taking a spot on a lifeboat, not going
- 16:23down with a ship. At the time of the collision,
- 16:27Hossano was asleep in his cabin. He woke to a
- 16:31frantic knock on the door and the sound of footsteps
- 16:34in the hallway. He would later write that the scene
- 16:37outside his cabin was terrifying and chaotic. Passengers scurried back
- 16:43and forth as white flashes exploded above him. The crew
- 16:48was setting off emergency flares. When he arrived at the lifeboats,
- 16:54he was turned away. He was a foreigner, the officer said,
- 16:59and would have to wait on the lower deck. But
- 17:03when the man turned his back, Hosano saw his chance.
- 17:07A lifeboat called out that it had room for another
- 17:10two passengers, and after watching another man hop in, he
- 17:14wrestled with himself. He felt he should go down with
- 17:19the ship, but he wanted more than anything to see
- 17:21his wife and children again. He joined the man in
- 17:25the lifeboat, the screams of the drowning echoing in his
- 17:29ears as the boat pulled away. After making it back
- 17:35to land, Hosano reportedly lost his government job, suffered ridicule
- 17:40in the press, and served as a source of shame
- 17:44for his family even after his death in nineteen ninety seven.
- 17:54Charles lighttoler as the lifeboat were launched. Second Officer Charles
- 18:02Lightholder observed the woman and children First rule so aggressively
- 18:08that he sometimes let lifeboats go into the water with
- 18:10empty seats rather than let any men occupy them. But
- 18:16whatever people said about Lightholder in the tragedy's aftermath, they
- 18:20couldn't call him a hypocrite. The second officer intended to
- 18:25go down with the ship, and very nearly did. He
- 18:30was on the Titanic as it slipped under water at
- 18:33the bitter end, when there was no lifeboats left fleet
- 18:39feet below the surface. He was trapped against a grate
- 18:44when the ship's boiler exploded, sending up a blast of
- 18:49air that carried him to the surface. Afterward, he swam
- 18:54to an overturned collapsible boat where thirty or so people
- 18:58clung to life. He joined them and showed them how
- 19:02to shift their weight to keep the big swells from
- 19:06the sinking ship and from swamping their small craft together.
- 19:15They survived the night. When Lightholder was the last survivor
- 19:19to set foot on the rescue ship it reached them
- 19:23at dawn. In the inquiries that followed the tragedy, it
- 19:28emerged that Lightholder's life boat policy wasn't as hard nosed
- 19:32as it seemed. Doubting the strength of the lifeboat's davits,
- 19:38he intended to fill the remaining slots on the ships
- 19:42once they had safely reached the water line, but the
- 19:48men assigned to the tasks drowned before they could open
- 19:52the lower doors, meaning some lifeboats sailed away with empty seats.
- 19:59In the aftermoen half of the sinking, Lightholer made a
- 20:04number of recommendations for better safety measures and tighter regulations
- 20:09that could prevent similar disasters in the future. Many of
- 20:13his suggestions are now maritime law. Harold Bride, a junior
- 20:26wireless officer aboard the Titanic Titanic rather Harold Bride was
- 20:33one of the two people responsible for sending SOS messages
- 20:37to nearby ships, thus allowing the RMS car Carpathia to
- 20:45rescue the Titanic survivors. He and another man on duty
- 20:50Jack Phillips raced to send distress signals to nearby ships,
- 20:56but as the communications specialists, they knew that the closest
- 21:02the other ship would likely not arrive until the Titanic sank.
- 21:09They worked frantically until Captain Edward Smith came and told
- 21:13them they were relieved of duty. The ship had nearly
- 21:17lost power and only two lifeboats remained. They made a
- 21:21run for collapsible b and were just getting it into
- 21:26the water when a wave swept across the deck, tumbling
- 21:29both Harrow Bride and the upturned boat into the ocean.
- 21:35Bride and fifteen others scrambled on to the water log
- 21:39sinking collapsible and survived until other lifeboats collected them and
- 21:44conveyed them to the Carpathenian. Once aboard the ship, Bride
- 21:53got back to work and began helping the ship's wireless
- 21:58officers send messages from the other Titanic survivors. When the
- 22:03ship made land, Bride had to be carried ashore. He
- 22:07had sprang one foot in the plunge of the ocean
- 22:10and the other was frostbitten. After a night in the
- 22:13Atlantic frigid waters, Lawrence Beasley taking a break from his
- 22:24position as a science teacher at Dulwich College in England.
- 22:28Lawrence Beasley boarded the Titanic at Southampton with a second
- 22:33class ticket. At the time of the collision on the
- 22:37evening of April fourteenth, Beasley was reading in his cabin.
- 22:42Though he didn't notice the iceberg's impact, he did realize
- 22:46several minutes later that the ship had gone strangely still.
- 22:51On investigating, he was told that everything was fine, but
- 22:55a suspicion that something serious had occurred drove him back
- 22:58up on the deck, where he saw crew members beginning
- 23:02to ready the lifeboats. As a man on board the
- 23:07sinking Titanic, his chances weren't good, but luck had it
- 23:12that a departing lifeboat had room for one more passenger,
- 23:16and since no women or children were present, they invited
- 23:20Beasley on board. From the lifeboat, Beasley watched the Titanic
- 23:26sink into the Atlantic as its lights flickered and then
- 23:30extinguished forever. Following his rescue, he wrote about his experience
- 23:37in the loss of the s s Titanic, published just
- 23:41nine weeks after the disaster. More than four decades later,
- 23:47during the making of the nineteen fifty eight Titanic film
- 23:50A Night to Remember. Beesley famously crashed the set during
- 23:55the sinking scene, hoping to go down with the ship,
- 24:00but he was removed by the director Lucille Carter. Lucille
- 24:13Carter bordered the Titanic with her husband, her children, a
- 24:17small cadre of servants, and her husband's car, the twenty
- 24:23five horsepower Renault automobile made famous by the nineteen ninety
- 24:29seven film starring Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio. Despite her
- 24:35aristocratic upbringing, Lucille wasn't afraid to get her hands dirty
- 24:39and helped lead one of the lifeboats to safety. When
- 24:44I went over the side with my children and got
- 24:46in the boat, there were no seamen in it, she
- 24:49later said. There was nothing else for me to do
- 24:52but to take an oar inte. When Lucille emerged from
- 24:58the tragedy a hero, her husband, William Carter, wasn't so lucky.
- 25:04Though Lucille originally claimed that her husband had led her
- 25:07and their children to the lifeboats before going off to
- 25:11wait stoically with the other men, the truth came out
- 25:14in the divorce papers two years ago or two years later. Rather,
- 25:20William had warned his wife and children that the ship
- 25:23was going down, and then disappeared, only to reappear miraculously
- 25:29safe the following day on another ship. When Lucille boarded
- 25:36the rescue ship, William was already there. He greeted his
- 25:41bedraggled wife with a cheery salutation. According to Lucille, all
- 25:47he said was that he had had a jolly good
- 25:50breakfast and that he never thought I would make it.
- 25:59Noel Leslie a countess and philanthropist. Noel Leslie, better known
- 26:06as Lady Rothus, made perhaps her greatest mark on history
- 26:11when she took charge of one of the Titanic lifeboats
- 26:14and helped steer at the safety. She manned the tiller
- 26:17on Lifeboat eight, rowed and took the helm for more
- 26:21than an hour before stepping down to console a newlywed
- 26:24whose husband had been lost in the wreck. She gave
- 26:28her fellow passengers comfort, led them in songs, and saw
- 26:32them through one of the darkest nights of their lives.
- 26:36She didn't stop caring for the passengers even when they
- 26:39boarded another ship. She looked after women and children, especially
- 26:44the poorest passengers, and sewed clothes for babies. After making
- 26:49it back to shore. Lady rothus shied away from the
- 26:52publicity that rightly touted her as one of the disaster's
- 26:57great heroes. She did, however, maintain a regular correspondence with
- 27:03Tom Jones, the crewman who had been put in charge
- 27:07of her lifeboat. She gave him a silver pocket watch,
- 27:12and in return he sent her the plaque from their lifeboat.
- 27:19She continued to exchange letters with him until her death
- 27:22in nineteen fifty six. Well, I guess it's about time
- 27:29to close now. I'm hopeful that you enjoyed today's program
- 27:36as much as I did researching it and reading it
- 27:40to you. Thank you so much for giving me your
- 27:43time to day, I'm your host, Joseph Bolt, and I'll
- 27:48be back for another chapter of Radio I history. Until then,
- 27:56happy trails to you.