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Rachel Kaly Disobeys Bridger · I Said No Gifts! A comedy interview podcast with Bridger Winegar

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself
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  Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests,
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  Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough.
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  Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how do you
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: dare to surbey me?
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. Temperature wineger. We're in
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  Speaker 3: the backyards. This is a rare occasion. We're out here.
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: The sun is slowly raising the temperature. I'm going to
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: be uncomfortable. Ah, what's going on? I have three buckets
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: of gravel to move in the driveway, which is you know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saving that for myself, a little special something for later.
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: It's nice to have something to live for. And I
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  Speaker 3: have weekend plans. So that's my weekend plan, is moving
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  Speaker 3: three buckets of gravel. Or maybe I won't. Maybe I'll
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: let us sit there for three more weeks and then
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  Speaker 3: I'll get wet from the rain, and then I'll have
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  Speaker 3: to wait again. This is the this is my life,
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  Speaker 3: this is what we're doing. I'm living at one hundred
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  Speaker 3: miles per hour. The birds are loud. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: there's any business we have to talk about, which is incredible.
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  Speaker 3: We should just get into the podcast. I love today's guest.
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  Speaker 3: It's Rachel Kayley. Rachel, welcome to I said no gifts,
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  Speaker 3: thanks so much. How are you feeling about the temperature
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  Speaker 3: so far?
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  Speaker 4: Well, there was just a breeze that was quite nice,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm definitely not looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: This is actually not too uh. It's a nice little
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  Speaker 3: refresher every few minutes.
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  Speaker 4: It's completely lovely when it happens. When it's not happening,
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  Speaker 4: it's not amazing.
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  Speaker 3: You're kind of just begging for it to come back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what have you been doing this week?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god? Well, the truth is I'm spending a
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  Speaker 4: lot of time on my phone, which I'm sure. Yeah, Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: I'm allowing myself to Oh and I'm not meaning to
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  Speaker 4: plug right up top. Okay, but I am in season
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  Speaker 4: two of Jury Duty.
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  Speaker 3: But that's why you have to get on there and
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  Speaker 3: you have to post clips. You've got to post things.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a career.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm letting myself look and refresh, look and refresh
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  Speaker 4: all hours, hours hours.
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  Speaker 3: Are you looking for the likes likes follows?
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  Speaker 4: Is it from a verified account? Is someone dming me
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  Speaker 4: to tell me something amazing? Do they have something mean
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  Speaker 4: to say? Looking at comments at times?
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  Speaker 3: Have there been any mean things?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely?
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  Speaker 3: Do you interact with mean people?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't mind it, like I would like to,
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  Speaker 4: But the issue is I don't know if they will
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  Speaker 4: then come for me. Like I'm like, it's a little
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  Speaker 4: like when you're yelling at someone from a car and
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  Speaker 4: you're like, do they have a gun?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Right?
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  Speaker 4: That's how I feel about interacting with mean comments.
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  Speaker 3: Right. If it was like an even back and forth
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  Speaker 3: of meanness, that would be fine. Yeah, Like, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: what I worry about sometimes too. If I go back
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  Speaker 3: at them, then God knows what they have planned.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're just waiting for the dam to burst.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and they have full access to attack. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: I can only kind of just comment.
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  Speaker 4: Back, right, Have you had a mean really mean?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? I get lots of mean things, but I never interact.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of the feeling of power for
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  Speaker 3: me is to make that person just feel unbelievably alone
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  Speaker 3: in the world by not getting any response.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to talk to them all face to face.
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  Speaker 3: That would be nice because I think.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's the anonymity that is an issue, but
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  Speaker 4: also no worries.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing that I think contributes to some of
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  Speaker 3: this is some people. I think some people know they're
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  Speaker 3: being made. Some people are absolutely horrible. Yeah, some people
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  Speaker 3: just do not know how to process their thoughts through writing, right,
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  Speaker 3: And so I think that they're just like this seems
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  Speaker 3: like a fine thing to say to another person, because
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  Speaker 3: they don't really know how to modulate. They're new to
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  Speaker 3: journaling truly, because most people are bad at writing. Ye,
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  Speaker 3: bad at just I mean like typing, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, they're bad at that. Like they barely
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  Speaker 3: made it through high school. And so then they get
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  Speaker 3: online and they have access to be able to write things,
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  Speaker 3: but they never really figured it.
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  Speaker 4: Out, right, I mean absolutely, the democratization of it all.
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  Speaker 4: Who's to say if it's for good.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's ultimately for the adis of their worst.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just gonna have to see, I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think, well, I think we're going to see probably
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  Speaker 3: sooner than later. I know. I think it's like we're
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  Speaker 3: finally coming to a head a little bit with some
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  Speaker 3: thing is gonna break, Yeah, but I don't know what's next.
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  Speaker 4: It's like when you're in a video game and the
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  Speaker 4: thing breaks and you have to jump to the next thing.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder what the next thing is.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Like the little thing is like in the lava
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  Speaker 3: and that you jump on it, and it's like you've
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  Speaker 3: got three seconds and you have to get to the
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  Speaker 3: next thing exactly. I think God knows how long that'll
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  Speaker 3: last or might be a really long platform walk.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who's to say. That's what it's feeling like
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  Speaker 4: more and more every day.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So you're online, you're looking for the likes, You're
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  Speaker 3: looking for the verified users. We all know verified users
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  Speaker 3: now are almost meaningless nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking these guys have four hundred ninety seven followers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna kill myself. That's horrible.
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  Speaker 3: At four hundred followers, Why do you decide I now
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  Speaker 3: need to be verified?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I am looking at them because the digress is
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  Speaker 4: just like here, so it's bringing eyes. But it is like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand. I don't know the point myself.
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  Speaker 3: Because it brings eyes. But then the person looking at
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  Speaker 3: you is now just annoyed with you and thinks even
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  Speaker 3: less of you as a person. Right, It's never like, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: look at these horrible photos they took of their family.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to get on board with this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like I don't understand, but I am.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing a deep dive. A lot of them have businesses,
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  Speaker 4: they're trying.
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  Speaker 3: To start right right, but again it's just like difficult.
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  Speaker 3: Just make a decent business, take some decent photos and
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  Speaker 3: game the system that way. Imagine do they hand out
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  Speaker 3: verification at this point or is it all purchased?
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  Speaker 4: No, you can. Not to brag, but I got it.
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  Speaker 4: But I applied. I was like, this is like I
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  Speaker 4: had been applying for years. I had a similar thing
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  Speaker 4: with Rayah, the dating app, where I did it way
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  Speaker 4: too early. I applied to Rya in twenty sixteen college.
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  Speaker 3: Those were like that's when they may have had celebrities
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  Speaker 3: on there.
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  Speaker 4: Well exactly, And I just was like, well, I'm doing
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  Speaker 4: comedy in New York, so let me give it a shot.
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  Speaker 4: And now I can't get on it.
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  Speaker 3: Why can't you get it?
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  Speaker 4: Because I tried to early and they won't let me
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  Speaker 4: like update, even though I add referrals of like, you know, right,
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  Speaker 4: real people, they're not. They're like, oh, she's too desperate.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a one time thing.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's not supposed to be. I don't understand what
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  Speaker 4: the issue is. But I did have that thing with
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  Speaker 4: Instagram too, where I kept because they asked for like news.
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  Speaker 3: Articles about it. Right, It's very odd, and I kept.
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  Speaker 4: Putting in the same ones because there were no new
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  Speaker 4: ones coming up for many years and they were just
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  Speaker 4: like stop. But they finally gave it.
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  Speaker 3: But those were news articles. What was the problem with
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  Speaker 3: those ones?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they were written about me when I was like
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  Speaker 4: quite young.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so they would have verified you as a child. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: or now an Instagram teen right, exactly. I would love
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  Speaker 3: to have an Instagram teen account. It sounds like so
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  Speaker 3: much fun.
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  Speaker 4: I need, like I need guardrails.
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  Speaker 3: I think everyone does. Yeah, I think that I've said
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  Speaker 3: this before. I feel like there should be some sort
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  Speaker 3: of test and then maybe you like get certain powers
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  Speaker 3: for sure, and like certain abilities.
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  Speaker 4: To use like posting or even like.
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  Speaker 3: Posting, commenting, liking, sharing, because earn it. Yeah, you have
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  Speaker 3: to earn it. Not everybody knows how to do it. No,
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  Speaker 3: not everyone should be trusted with that response.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel grateful for the people who don't know
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  Speaker 4: how to do it and still do it, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: They're more fun to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Like that's what all my reels are I guess
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  Speaker 4: it's like people turning on the camera forgetting I see
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  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: The reels that I enjoy most are probably people who
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  Speaker 3: would not pass the test, right exactly, Then what am
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  Speaker 3: I looking at? My competent friends? Yes, and that's anything
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  Speaker 3: to do with it.
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  Speaker 4: No one watches any.
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  Speaker 3: Of this, No, absolutely no. They will want to see someone,
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  Speaker 3: you know, kind of losing their mind in the mid
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  Speaker 3: West exactly. Yeah, that's I'm sorry to hear. Are you
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  Speaker 3: going to get back off once the promotion cycle's over.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure what's going to happen to me. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what to say. I don't know. I really
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I've been thinking about this.
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  Speaker 3: What were you doing prior to I was trying.
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  Speaker 4: To curb my usage. I had like deleted TikTok, Twitter's gone,
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  Speaker 4: But now it's all back right and I'm on it
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  Speaker 4: and I feel crazy. And then I saw this study
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  Speaker 4: that just came out that shows like even two weeks
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  Speaker 4: off your phone like makes your brain like ten times healthier.
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  Speaker 3: Do we believe it?
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  Speaker 4: I'm believing it. They had him like hooked up to
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  Speaker 4: all this stuff they were testing, like his reaction time
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  Speaker 4: right went up twenty three percent. Oh my god after
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  Speaker 4: two weeks, and I'm like, well, I think I need that.
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  Speaker 3: Right, that could become like a pro baseball player. Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I'll consider it. It's the thing where you're like,
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  Speaker 3: but what if something? If I miss something, and you will,
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  Speaker 3: You'll miss the best days of your life on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, but I'm trying to get back out
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  Speaker 4: into the world.
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  Speaker 3: What do you do to get back out into the world.
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  Speaker 4: This is my issue. I used to have hobbies like
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  Speaker 4: what I did Pottery Okay, that's a real I did
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  Speaker 4: painting Okay, oh wow, mo sayn I was that good
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  Speaker 4: at it. But it took up a lot of my time.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I would walk, Okay, that's ours. It's not I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to qualify, but it took up a lot
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  Speaker 3: of my time.
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  Speaker 4: Those were kind of it.
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  Speaker 3: Those are I mean, you named two solid hobbies. That's
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  Speaker 3: more than I have. Really, you have no hobbies, not currently, No,
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  Speaker 3: nobody have soil or gravel. I've got oh I forgot
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  Speaker 3: I carry buckets. Yeah, but Instagram takes up all my time.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise I would be constantly.
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  Speaker 4: Carrying is the gravel for like gardening, Like, what's the deal.
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  Speaker 3: It's the backyard. Our dog destroyed our lawn. You have
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  Speaker 3: a dog and she's the best, but she has you know,
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  Speaker 3: she's like a raptor, and so she destroyed the entire
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  Speaker 3: lawn by when we were playing fetch so and we
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  Speaker 3: needed to get rid of the lawn anyway, Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: So now it's like pebbles. But the landscapers left me
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  Speaker 3: extra pebbles and they said, do you want us to
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  Speaker 3: put these somewhere? And I don't know what was going
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  Speaker 3: through my mind when I said, oh, don't worry because
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  Speaker 3: they're each like eighty pounds.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So now they're just sitting there and just kind of
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  Speaker 3: making me feel bad all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you could sell those on Facebook, Marketplace easy.
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  Speaker 3: Probably can't get it today. But then when I need
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  Speaker 3: the pebbles, what do I do?
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  Speaker 4: Well, then I don't know how to help you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to face a life where I don't
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  Speaker 3: have extra pebbles lying around.
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  Speaker 4: Now, did you choose all these plants?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: These when I bought the house. This is how it was.
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  Speaker 4: I have to say, you're telling me stuff that is
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  Speaker 4: amazing to hear and you'll see why later.
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  Speaker 3: Oh incredible. Okay, so this kind of happens on this
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  Speaker 3: podcast sometimes. Really, there's something, there's something, you know. I
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: think we've talked simulation to death, but there's something about
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: this podcast. It feels like someone's pushing buttons. Oh yeah,
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: gouting things in line. I mean, the things this podcast
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: is predicted.
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  Speaker 4: I really like what. Oh my god, I'm sure the pandemic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I believe that it's like the Simpsons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very much like the Simpsons.
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen You've.
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  Speaker 3: Never seen the Simpsons. No, wow, you've seen clips.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 4: When I was a kid and my we always watched Seinfeld,
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  Speaker 4: but the Simpsons came on after Seinfeld, so I would
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  Speaker 4: see like the first two minutes and then get scared
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  Speaker 4: and turn it off.
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  Speaker 3: You get scared.
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  Speaker 4: I find animation very scary, and I've mostly worked in animation,
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  Speaker 4: and I find it completely terrifying.
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  Speaker 3: What's so frightening about it?
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  Speaker 2: For you?
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  Speaker 4: The issue is that, to me, animation is like mainlining
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  Speaker 4: someone else's brain, because it's like the only time you
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  Speaker 4: can see exactly what someone sees in their brain.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: That to me is like looking at the stars.
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  Speaker 3: Really fascinating thing. Yeah, I've never thought of, but I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I guess that's art. Do you just freak out?
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  Speaker 4: I think because I think as animation moves.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's things move in someone's mind.
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  Speaker 4: I really don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any animation, like what's your favorite animated thing?
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  Speaker 4: There was a period of time in college where I
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: was like just so mentally ill that I couldn't watch
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  Speaker 4: shows that had anything I could relate to. Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: like any any relationship stuff, or like money or like
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  Speaker 4: sad family stuff. So I watched kids shows, right, and
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  Speaker 4: I got really into the Backyard against.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I'm not familiar.
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  Speaker 4: Well why would you be. It's a show for kids
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  Speaker 4: created not so long ago. But it's gorgeous and they're
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  Speaker 4: singing and they're so happy, and it's animals that are
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  Speaker 4: living I think in New York City. They play in
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  Speaker 4: the backyard.
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  Speaker 3: They rare backyard art rich New York City.
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  Speaker 4: They all live in different houses.
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  Speaker 3: They Now the concept of the show is kind of
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  Speaker 3: falling apart for him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, it was a while ago.
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  Speaker 3: Like other animals, they're not elevant creatures.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, they're it's like cow cute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very cute.
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  Speaker 4: Rhyo, maybe, Oh they're so cute.
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  Speaker 3: And that was the end of animation for you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty much. I definitely watched it as a kid,
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  Speaker 4: but like it did it always carry That's.
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  Speaker 3: Such a good point. That's really fascinating. Yeah, that's something
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  Speaker 3: I think you learn like really early on of like
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  Speaker 3: this thing, I'm looking at me like it may not
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  Speaker 3: look the same to me as somebody else. Yes, and
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: now you've really brought this into a whole full circle thing. Yeah, wow, magical.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's interesting power of animation, the power of art.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I find it scary.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you've but you have given up on painting yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to get back in to it a bit.
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get back into anything that like is
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  Speaker 4: not something I can monetize basically, right, But then I
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  Speaker 4: have sold my artwork before. Oh well, it was like
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  Speaker 4: a desperate thing during COVID when I had no work
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  Speaker 4: and people were being quite generous.
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  Speaker 3: What sort of art is in.
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  Speaker 4: The pottery is pretty poorly made, kind of like weird shapes, right,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, three legged planters. When that was like
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  Speaker 4: fun in twenty nineteen and then the paintings. It started
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  Speaker 4: because I would go to paint and sip, okay, sure,
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  Speaker 4: and then I would start getting crazy. I would add silly.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff upon sipping. Is that no sipping.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going there to sip. I'm going there to paint.
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  Speaker 4: I'm one of the only sober people there usually like
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  Speaker 4: a bachelorette party. And then me sober painting nine to
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  Speaker 4: eleven onto the sunset that we were instructed to make.
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  Speaker 4: So then I just got into painting right right.
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  Speaker 3: Because also pottery was your journey into painting.
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  Speaker 4: No, they ran congruentut okay.
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  Speaker 3: And was there any of that before, like in high
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  Speaker 3: school or anything?
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  Speaker 4: I had always well, I also embroider.
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  Speaker 3: I like crafts okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I got a little into furniture building.
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  Speaker 3: During cool You're very handy.
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  Speaker 4: I like to be handy.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 4: There was a moment also not to keep talking about
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  Speaker 4: COVID so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I think people are craving it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, great, just to bring it back. I got into
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: a woodworking school, okay. And I would have gone and
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: lived in Vermont for.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Two years, oh my god.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: And it was like it felt like the perfect time
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: because it was like you know whatever, And then I
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: ultimately decided not to at the last minute to continue
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: making videos, but I regret it. But I was really
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: like I had sort of taught myself everything I could
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: teach myself wood working wise, and wanted to.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And were you learning like through YouTube? Was that how
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: you were doing it?
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: I would I would say, how ye wasn't even YouTube
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: like it was really dangerous And what were you making?
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I made a like a stool that I had tiled.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I tiled stool myself when that was kind of a
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: big trend. I made a waterfall stool. Oh never quite
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: supported much weight, but was pretty.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: More for a child or something.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I made a couple of tables.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, where were you putting all of this?
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I was they were small. But I had a friend
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: who was a painter, and so I would go to
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: her studio and it was like just like sort of
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: a studio for any discipline. So they had a lot
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: of like different things you could use and store and make,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: and so I would use like power tools there, which
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I had no like it was I almost cut stuff off.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, professionals constantly cut stuff off alone. Somebody
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: just starting off right, and.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: It was like I'd be like, oh yeah, like I
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: get you know, I'd do it with no mask, no goggles,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: and then I'd be.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Like oh right, yeah, and that kind of thing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I was trying. I tried to do some like stuff
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: where I wanted to like freeze stuff in resin, which
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: is extremely dangerous, just the chemicals, like if it's not
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: ventilated well, and I was like heating it up what
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: you're not supposed to. I was just trying stuff, right,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: So you know, I would like to get back into
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: the spirit of that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: And how did you apply to the Wood School? Did
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: you have to show them photos or.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I sent photos of the stuff I had made? And
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: I have to imagine I wrote an essay.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: That would have been such a turn for you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I know I'm regretting it. I'm regretting it, but it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: also like, I don't know, actually it's just regret. It's
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: just regret. It would have been so awesome. I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I'd be so much happier.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Right, you probably, I mean, let's be honest, you would have.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I think, no question anyone in comedy if they just
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: would pick up a skill and just make things, Yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: probably feels better.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be on Instagram. Well, and ultimately woodworkers
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: are posting their stuff to Instagram at times. Right, it
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: depends who you are.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, there's a you know, there's a whole you
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: can kind of turn anything into a thing that hurts you.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: At this point, it just kind of keeps you on
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: that just it's nice to know you have that option. Sure,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: and you get bored of just being satisfied with yourself,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you can kind of open it up to the pub
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: beg for their approval.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Well, look, you've already brought it up. I mean, you
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: hinted at something, and I guess we should just talk
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: about it. Now. What is it you were going to
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: you're here on I said, no gifts. I was looking
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: forward to having you. So I was thrown when you
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: kind of trotted into the backyard holding this gorgeous chanel bag.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, flung over your shoulder. Yes, is this a
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: gift for me?
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty much is pretty much.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Is Should we open it here on the podcast?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little bit of an experience.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, we rarely get an experience gift on this I
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: think there have been very few. There was indoor skydiving.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Oh no, nothing like that this is contained and barely
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: an experience.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: And I'll also say the indoor skydiving place has closed down.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Oh really, so you don't exact me.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: No, I went and then they were probably like, that's
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: we're done, shut it down.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: But I think that, Elise, that's probably the one experience
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: that I've had on this podcast.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Right, Did that make you want to go real skydiving?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: No?
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Would you?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I want to try indoor. I don't think I would
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: do real skydiving, but there's a part of me that
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: could see myself doing it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Indoor is fine. It was very fun. It was a
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: good time. But I mean I've said this before, but
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: doing real skydiving, I really think that like primal animal
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: instinct in me would become so strong when they're about
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: to jump out that I would like fight off the
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: person that's attached to me. Yeah, and then cause my day.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: So I just like I can't trust my lizard brain.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: What about klonopin, No, I don't even think that. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: think my body, every chemical in my body would overcome that. Okay,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: and then I would die and kill someone else?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, kill profess I had I was I
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: went to the Madonna In for the first time. And
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I had a couple of weeks ago and I had
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: a waiter who just kept coming over to ask me
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: questions about my life. I loved him. And on about
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the fourth round he was like, have you ever gone skydiving?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: And I said no, and he said he had just
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: done it and he was going for his sixth run
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: this week and he wanted to get certified so that
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: he could take people like me to go skydiving.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: So is he using the Madonna In as kind of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: a place to get new customers.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: It's a little bit like that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Interesting, but I'm really rooting for good for him.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now it's on my mind.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: How was the Madonna In in general? I've only ever driven past,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I'm very familiar.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: But it was really fun. It smelled crazy. That makes
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: totally like the rooms smelled crazy.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Probably not well ventilated, No, certainly not.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: And it is truly on the highway right like that's
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: but the pool was amazing. The like I went to
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the bar and they have this drink with whipped cream,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and it was someone's wedding and they let us dance
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: at the wedding.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Oh fun, it was really fun. Oh that sounds nice.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I need to go there at least once.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: You should.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: It just never feels like the right time to go
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: to the Madonna.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't. I'm I sort of did it
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: on the way back from Big Sir.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Oh right, it feels like something on the way.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't imagine it being a destination. And the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: guy who the guy who started it is quite interesting,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: but I can't remember anything about him.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: What was the theme of the room you were in?
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Rocks Rock that was the thing? Is like, it was
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: kind of last minute, so we got a shit, but
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: it was rocks and it was all car It was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: like carpet that has been there for forty years. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, people are coming into this growing up. No question,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: you can't clean a carpet.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: There's certainly blood in there. Yes, there's like every liquid
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you could get into that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Which is I think the fun of the Madonna in
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: But I don't. I'm watching the comeback right now and
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: I just had the urge just say her catchphrase. Oh
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: of course, that is so crazy that that just happened
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: to me. Really enjoying the show though.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: You're watching it for the first time. Yeah, oh my god,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: it's so good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: She's unreal.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: She's just like she can truly do anything. Yeah, how
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: far into it are you?
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: I'm about to finish season one. I had tried watching
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: it many times before and couldn't get into it, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: everyone's been like, you just need to push through, right,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: And now I'm like, thank god.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: What were you? Was it making you uncomfortable to watch it?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: You know a little bit? And I have a really
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: high tolerance for that. I'm not sure what it was.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that is a lot of people's problem.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, she's just so good at making you be
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: like this, what are you doing on camera?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah? It is amazing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my maybe my favorite ever. Yeah. Okay, well
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I avoided this experience long enough.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: There's actually a piece I forgot that's unrelated. It's just
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: if you really don't like what.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I gave but I can't find it. Okay, Well let's
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: see what this is. I'm pulling it out. It's a pan,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: a pilot, G two classic pen and some paper.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: When do I get to explain stuff.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Whenever you want? Okay? Wait, you wait hours? You call
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: me later to explain so about that? Okay, Okay, I'm
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: opening it and it's a piece of paper that I
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: just punched a hole in the wall. It's a okay,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: there it seems like her two piece of paper.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Well, this is part of the experience.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So should I do you want to explain?
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Or should I why you try?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And then all, okay, I'm gonna I try to explain
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: what this is. Rachel has drawn a picture. In the middle,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: there's a stick figure of me Bridger in the left corner.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: There's a dog in the up upper left corner. There's
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a flag that says gay guy flag, upper right corner,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: there's a house that says sold. And then in the
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: bottom right could be a bag of groceries or a
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: garbage can.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, so you know we've only met in Passing
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: about twice. Yes, we talked briefly a couple.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Of weeks ago. Yes, we were at someone's birthday. Yes,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: wonderful Sam.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Wonderful Sam. And you know, I'm thinking, huh, I don't
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: know so much about this guy. Because I wanted to
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: make you a painting. Actually oh wow, But I was like,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I don't really know what to paint him, right, So
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I said, I'll start with this sketch. So I went
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: with stuff I thought, or it's true about you, gay
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: guy or gay guy?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Right, yes, I'm a gay guy.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought you might have a dog.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, good gift.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: So when you said you had a dog, I'm thinking
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: this is amazing. Then I remember you said you make
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: some money from the podcast.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: So then I'm thinking of loudly going around the room.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: You gut believe how much money I'm making all this thing.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Then I'm thinking, I wonder if this guy owns a house.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: There's a house you bought. Then you're saying you do
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: own a house.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I do own a house.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Then I went on Instagram, your instagram, and saw that
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: you take pictures of trash all the time. Oh, interest,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I thought it could be a fetish something like this.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: So then I brought a pen and paper. So as
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I learned stuff about you, I can continue to add.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Oh I like this, And if you learn something about me,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: you want to draw. At the end, you give me
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: a gift.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: So you're just as we're learning about each other, will
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: just draw.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't learned much about you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm kind of keeping my car. One thing I'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna add one thing already. Let me choose quiftly.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I'm listener. I'm drawing something that's very close to Rachel's heart,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: and it's a very good drawing. Okay, you've drawn well.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I added box of a bucket of pebbles because I
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: think you'll have that for a long time.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I drew a picture of Bart Simpson.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's a good drawing.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: That's an I would say, a perfect drawing.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I really like that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to think of other things I've already
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: learned about. You've been to Madonna in This is a
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is an unfortunate test of my memory
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: and listening. You've watched Backyardigans. That's a good yeah, done.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Pottery painting and woodwork? How do you draw woodwork? That's
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the ball I saw? Fantastic I'm gonna draw. This is
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: also a test of if I know what a socks.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: It's a good motor skills test too.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, yeah, that's great. It's a pretty good.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Similar looks similar to Bart Simpson.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: It actually looks almost like I'm going to ask you
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: about like in regards to do you have a pet? No?
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: No, I really want a dog, right, I feel ready,
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: and I think it would change my life.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: What sort of dog would you like? A big, small.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: If if I had unlimited resources in that I had
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: a yard house, I think I would want like a
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: medium to big sized dog, maybe like a black lap Oh, beautiful, gorgeous.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Did you have a dog growing up?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Never, did you have any pets?
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: We had a bird for under a year?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Did it fly away?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So my mom and I were walking through Washington Square
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Park and a parakeet lands on her head. How interesting
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: she it's injured. So she goes back to her work,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: which is close by, and we get a box. We
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: take the bird to the vet. The vet says like
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: its wing is broken and it must have just escaped
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: from someone's apartment. But there's sort of nothing. What do
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: you do with a.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Bird can and there's nothing you can do about a
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: broken wing.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I think they fixed the wing, Okay, I don't really know. Anyway,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: we took her home. We had her in a cage
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: we have. We'd have to let her out to fly.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: She would ship all over the apartment. She was so loud.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I hated the bird, but we called her Treasure because
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: she was a treasure around. Treasure but ultimately we just
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: called her Birdie.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, right right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I had insomnia as a kid, so I would sit
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: up with the bird a lot and watch Kathy Griffin,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Kathy Griffin, Kathy Griffin, My Life with the D List
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, wait, what did you think? Her name was?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Kathy Griffith, Kathy Griffin, Kaffy Griffin, Kathy Griffin. And one
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: night we're watching it TV together. Well, also, it's like
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the bird is stupid, so you put a towel over
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: its cage to indicate it's sound to go to bed.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: So I was put the towel over its cage. But
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: there was something comforting about having a live thing next
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to me. Sure, because I basically, in part had insomnia
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: because I thought someone needed to be awake in case
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: someone was trying to break in.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, not the worst idea, yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Sure, but I took it upon myself. Yeah, But so
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I like having a bird with me because it felt
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: like partner in crime. Of course, all to say, we're
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: watching Kathy Griffin, and all of a sudden, I hear
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: a huge thought in the cage no, and I don't
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: bother and I finally fall asleep, and it had passed away.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Kathy griff It was like, laugh, it had had a
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: heart attack.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: It had a heart attack. How do you know that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Because we took it to the vet.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, this feels like a waste of time.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my mom was like maybe not actually right,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: she told me that it had a heart attack. Oh okay,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: and then we went out to my We drove out
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: to Long Island to my grandma's house to bury it
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: in the yard.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Well that's nice, and.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I hated the birds so much, but it really made
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: me sad, right, And it was around the same time
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: that my great grandpa was dying. Oh, so I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: it made me realize.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: That, oh it was kind of your entry into that world. Right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So it was actually good because it was sort of like, yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I think that is tricycle one of the utilities of
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: a pet for a kid, right, Yeah, you haven't really
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: thought about that before, but it's.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Like, look what's coming.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We had so many hamsters dye really, but I
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: guess I just have totally numb to the concept.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Wow, would you have one at a time?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Time?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Are many?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: We would have like one or two at a time.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And I don't know where did you grow up in Utah, Utah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: outside of Salt Lake City, in a suburb of Salt Lake.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Have you been, Yeah, I've been toys.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: What were you doing there? Stand up? One time?
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: No, I think they would hate me there.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: No, I bet they would actually love you.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Interesting. One time I went because I was on a
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: my like uncle took me and my cousins to Yellowstone, Okay, sure,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: and like on the way home, we stopped in the
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Salt Lake because he wanted to see the church.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Oh right, fast by it kind of a landmark to see. Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: And then I went this past couple of months ago
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: because I was at sundown.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Oh that's right, always kind of trying to bring it
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: back to some sort of problem.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Well you know what am I supposed to do?
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I just can't stop working. Nope. So you were just
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: in Park City this time.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but we did spend some time in Salt Lake.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, where did you eat any good restaurants?
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I have to say the food was disgusting. People were like,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: oh my god, you got to go to this restaurant
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: and like what restaurant was a sushi place and the
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: producers were like trying to take us out this nice
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: meal like we were having good time and it was
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: really expensive and it was disgusting.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Was the sushi place in Salt Lake? No?
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: No, sorry, Park City?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Oh so, okay, there is a really good sushi place
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: in salt Lake.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Really well, I watched Salt Lake Real Housewives.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure they've gone on the show because the
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: food they eat looks pretty good.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: They go to some interesting places. Yeah, they go to
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: places that I think are the photographed kind of well, yeah,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: they're kind of a scene.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Are you do you know anything about them? I how so,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: just gonna draw something quickly.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I will say I've facetimed with Britney Bateman. No, why
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: a friend is a friend? Are you interested? I'm friend
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: of a.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Friend of I thought you said a friend is a friend,
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: so I thought you were a friend.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Rachel and they'll FaceTime. No, a friend is a friend
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: of hers. I see, And she said, would you FaceTime
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: my friend? And so did Jared Osmond? No, what was
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: he like? They were both perfectly nice. Actually, I mean
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I can imagine. I mean that's kind of the thing
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: about housewives is like I think if you met any
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: of them in person, you'd be like, oh, this is
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: someone that's kind of playing well.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I met Meredith on the street where.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: In New York.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, it was great. I was having I
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: had done something a heinous that day. Okay, I had
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: tried to steal a eight hundred dollars pair of pants
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: from A stores, which I did successfully.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so proud of you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: But then I went back immediately and bought it, brought
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: it back Rachel and just threw it inside. I was like,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry I did this. It was like I
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: had like a streak of kleptomania as a kid, and
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: it is gone from my body now. And it that
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: was the final release, because I was like, what am
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: I doing?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: How did you steal them?
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Shove it in my pants?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: So you didn't like go in the dressing room and
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: put them on and put I did that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah I shoved or yeah, I well they were these
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: weird ones where it was actually too obvious when I
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: had them on under my pants, so I did kind
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: of like ball it up like and then held a
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: sweater over my you know what I mean. Whatever, And
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I was just like if they find out, like I
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: had never stolen something that expensive before, and I was
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: like this is fucking insane, Like I'm not stealing food
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: that I need. I'm stealing like designer pants, which I
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: honestly don't have an issue with.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I have zero issue.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: It was more just like this could ruin my life,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: right potentially, Well that's true too, sort of a rider,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, but anyway, I just freaked out, threw the
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: pants in, and then immediately had a panic attack outside,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: of course, and just then Meredith Marks walked by with her.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: But I was like, Meridith, it like took me out
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: What a cure.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: It's such a cure.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And they were really nice. And then I posted
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: these pictures of me with them and wrote in and
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: seeing caption about us being in a threesome and like
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: all this stuff because Seth.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Took the picture. You got to be careful because you
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: could end up in a threesome with this couple.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I would love to.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, Seth is looking for it, and you can tell.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: He loves the idea. But they thought it was so funny.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: And now they both follow me, Oh my god, that's great,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: but Meredith won't answer me.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Oh interesting kind of Uh that's a power move though,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: to be like I'm here, but I'm not giving you anything. Yeah,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: maybe she's just not that active on socials like you are.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: She's quite active, but maybe she has someone managing it, right,
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: which is the dream of course.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like to have a middleman to be like,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: here's the thing, do this, and occasionally check in just
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: to make sure things aren't completely on fire. Yeah. Wow,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: so Meredith Mark's dead bird stealing. Yeah, you just threw
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: the pants back in there. Yeah, what's the second biggest
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: thing you've stolen? And I spent some time drawing for
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: a moment.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Banned from urban outfitters because I stole some I probably
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: stole stuff worth two hundred dollars in total. Oh wow,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: that's not so bad.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: That's so you like you went multiple times?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: No, no, this was one go okay, and they caught
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: me because again I was shoving stuff. Actually, I was
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: shoving stuff in my lunchbox. I was in high school
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: and I had a lunch box.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Was it like a did have a design on it?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: No?
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: It was very plain.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Was kind of like fabric you right.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all those those always kind of feel dirty to me.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: There was disgusting stuff spilled out. I used to pack
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: chips and then I want to catch up to dip
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: the chips into.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I love catchup. Okay, wow, so maybe draw that I'm
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: thinking about it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: And I would just put it in. I would get
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: a piece of tinfoil, squirt the ketchup in, and then
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: bunch up the tinfoil, which would obviously always spill out
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: into the lunch box. But I was like, this is
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the only thing. Like I didn't have tupperware r. You
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: just had like plastic bags and tinfoil.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: But if you did have plastic bags.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: So you then it would just be like this flat.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Like I was like, if I can bunch up the
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: tinfoil enough, at least it'll be like a pile a
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: little cup, yeah, whereas in the bag it just gets.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Like a sheet. Ketchup is kind of one of the
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: worst things you can have leak to, Like first old
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: ketchup Yeah, stickiness.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it was not good.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: But you did it over and over pretty much every day.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And then they probably smelled you in urban outfitters definitely,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: and then they banned you. How does that work?
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: They caught me, they took my picture and they're like,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you can't come back like your pictured be sent to
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: all the stores, and then that one has since closed.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think a lot of since colored. But I
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: kinda say, like some other stuff, you could if you
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: went in there and went to the clearance rack, you
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: could get some great.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Get a couple pair of beady g jeans, right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: As long as it's not like a novelty T shirt
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: or some stupid thing like that, you could get some
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: decent things in there. I wonder if they're all closing,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: their time may be done.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I think we've I mean, but you know, if Hot
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Topic has lasted this long, I feel like Urban Outfitters
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: was like Millennials.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Such other store that smelled crazy.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Hot Topic.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I always found it to have a crazy smell.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I wonder what that was. Was it all of the
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Funko pops.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Or yeah, it's like burning plastic.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: It's so much plastic. Yeah, that storre was almost entirely plastic.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: And then like flammable T shirts. Yeah, yeah, interesting.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: I really liked Happy Bunny.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Are you familiar with familiar with Happy Bunny?
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I kind of want to start wearing Happy Bunny. It's
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: a bunny that basically says like go fuck yourself.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, it's kind of got an edge.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks cute, but exactly.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to picture if i've I bet I've seen that.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's it was iconic at a time, that
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: was my brand.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you met Meredith Marx and Seth took a picture.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of how I could draw one
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: of those two. But I feel like, oh, do you
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: know what I can draw to represent them? Something that
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I think is very key to their relationship, which I
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: think is important, say Big Loss.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Wait, why is that important to their relations.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Because he is the CFO I think of Big Loss.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: You're kidd is one of the head honchos over at
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Big Holy Ship of another business that's rapid.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, genuinely, he's always like I feel like his work.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Stuff is always like fucked, it's always. He worked at
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: overstock dot com. I'm a former employee of overstock dot com,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: but it was before his reign. It was a copywriter,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: which was never get a copywriting did you try?
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, this is the thing, if I may police, It's like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: you know, people were assistants at like you know, an
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: agency or publishing or or copyright. Like I tried so
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: hard to get the like normal jobs that people get
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: when they're trying to break in, and I couldn't, Like
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: I couldn't even get that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Where do you think you went wrong? I don't know.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: I know, like you're a competent person, you're smart.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I am, and now I do have a career, but
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I'm just like I tried so hard to do it
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: in the normal way.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Did you ever have like a part time or like
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: more menial type job I was.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: I had, like I was a barista for many years.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: I was a pre K like assistant teacher for many years.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I did tutoring, but it was all kinds of stuff
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: that was either like you know, like customer front, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: barista or whatever, or like education, right, but those had
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with the industry I was trying to
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: get into.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those sort of jobs are kind of
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, like they're weirdly competitive to get, like these
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: horrible jobs, jobs that are probably the hardest ones in
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: the business yea, and the lowest paying, yes, because you
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: basically have to like be an intern at uta or something,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: or you know, like I have, like your uncle works somewhere. Yes,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: even to be like a pah, which I mean I
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: was a PA, but it was because I had interned
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: at another show.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: And how did you get the internship?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Truly sheer luck. It was a letterman at David Letterman,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: and it was I think I submitted twice, and I
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: think the second time they were probably like, all of
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: our interns are coming from New York. This person wants
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: to come from Utah. Let him do it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Wow. So it worked out. And then there was part
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: of me that thinks that part of the reason I
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: got the job was I kind of interviewed with the
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: front desk person and at the time I had like
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: long red hair, and later found out that she was
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: like fully obsessed with Harry Potter and like looking at
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: fan photos, Oh my god. And I caught a look
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: over her shoulder once of her like looking at like.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: A Ronald Weasley.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, oh, so this is the reason.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I got Yeah, got its.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Speculation, but I was like, that just cannot be a.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Coincidence, certainly not wow, God bless. Yeah, so you did
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: have a little bit of an industry connect.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just by sheer luck. But otherwise there's no chance
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I would have gotten into the business. Yeah, and then
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Twitter helped because that was the other way you could
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: get in without Harvard before. Yeah, and now it's all
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: kind of reverted back to whatever that was. Right, just
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: a nightmare. Right, But you're probably lucky you didn't have
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: to do any of those terrible I.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Definitely am lucky in many ways.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It seems really hard.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Have you ever been in a big loss?
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't know that we have
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: other thing? Where is it the same as?
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to think of, like what a comp
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: for big lots would be. It's like what they sell
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: kind of everything. It's like, is it like dollar Tree?
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: So grated dollar Tree. It's like if you went to
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Dollar Tree and everything was normally prish. Yeah. Perfect, So
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: kind of a dream store or anyone.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I think my mom maybe goes to big lots or
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: she goes to odd Jobs. Oh wait, is that a store?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I as a kid, we were going we would go
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: somewhere called Jobbers Odd Lots. You're getting, which was kind
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: of that sort of store.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Jobbers Odd Lot.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? I have no idea what the
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: business model is. I just remember I was so young,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: it was I just remember being weirdly dark, and they
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: just had like all sorts of junk jobbers jobbers. Isn't
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: that a great name for a business? Jobbers? Odd lots
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: and your mom would go to odd jobs.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now I'm just like, am I just pulling
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: at like things I've heard? Because odd job is a phrase?
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Right, odd job? Yeah, you take odd jobs?
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I might just be saying that. And is there we
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: were just talking about odd jobs.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I think there might be a James Bond villain named
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: odd job?
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Is that right that I know nothing about?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: If I know that they're not good for me? Yeah,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: there is. Wow, I should go on Jeopardy.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: This is proof you would be great on Jeopardy.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Great to just kind of be the third place and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: the other two people get to win. Yeah, and they
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: did you have to fill one of those things. Yeah,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I would love to go on Jeopardy, even if I've flopped.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I think you. I mean, yeah, it just sounds fun.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I like doing like trivia, right, which I've never really
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: watched it.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I bet you would enjoy it. Everyone
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: likes Jeopardy. Yeah. I like trivia as long as it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: things that don't require any level of actual education or intelligence.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, things just come to me when they ask questions.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, just channeled to you.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: It just it is like, do you have a category
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: that you're good with?
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Nope, I think I'm okay at many.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that's I think that's kind of the key.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Then.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you have to bring people. You're like, oh,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: this guy is obsessed with World War two, this guy
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: is obsessed with the movies. Right, But I cover everything.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Right, so you're kind of covering basis for people when
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: the World War two. I guess they can only do
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: like pop culture stuff and entertainment and then weird bits
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: of history here and there. But otherwise when those other
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: categories are being I'm very quietly just waiting for the
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: rest of the I do this quiz on the Financial Times.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Okay about this, This seems very appealing to me.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Actually it's a British newspaper.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, but.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: They I don't care about the newspaper. It's just a quiz.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: But they ask you questions and then you have to
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: figure out the link.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's kind of like I'm addicted to that, right,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: So how many questions do they answer? Ten? Ten? Yeah?
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: And it's like trivia question, right, But then what helps
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: is figuring out the link.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Oh this sounds great. It's so fun because I play
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of connections the New York Times one. Yeah,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and this seems like an almost upgraded version it is
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: or something due to the trivia, because I frequently disagree
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: with the connections. I'm pretty good at of it. Sometimes
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like, sorry, there, some of these things could have
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: worked in two different categories and you failed. Yeah, that's
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: not tricking someone that's failing at your job, right, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: they need to know.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I kind of stopped doing that. I got really obsessed
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: with it as a way to ward off dementia.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's every time I'm like, this is my
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: vitamin for the Yeah. Yeah. And there's no chance it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: actually it's doing nothing fun. Yeah, probably not. If anything,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I'm getting worse brain.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Wise, it's definitely possible.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, let me see if I can draw another thing here,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I'm going to draw.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I'll draw one too. I drew on earlier as well.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Just a bad picture and it's not exactly there's no
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: chance to know what that says. Let's see that little
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: triangle in the middle pursuits yes. Wow, Well I could.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Read your writings Barry bless you Dead Hamster and Harry Potter.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Well, yours is filling up. I mean the one you're
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: doing for me is filling up. But I still feel
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: like I'm not really Uh, you know what else I'm
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: going to do? Right here?
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: That's a great drawing.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: It's a gorgeous drawing.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: You know what we should turn these into flash tattoo.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Oh do you know what about flash tattoos? Which I
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: found very disappointing, was there was a friend had a
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: flash tattoo artist at her birthday and had advertised this.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, this will be so much fun, thinking oh,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: it's just like imporary tattoos. Then I got there and realized, oh,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: it's real. I can't commit to this. Still, do you
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: have any No, I'm I think I'm gonna get one though.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Really, you know, it's been a secret.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: No, it's a picture of my old dog. But I
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: just have been I procrastinate everything. But I think I'm
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: like very closest.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you thought flash tattoo was like it's a
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: tattoo that's gone in a flash.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Like it's worthless. No, I just thought, you know, I
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: figured it was like a new, better version of temporary tattoos. Oh,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: you know, better technology or something.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: No, I've given tattoos at two parties. Here's another skill, which,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: by the way, it's like not, well, I guess it's
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: a bit of a skill. I mean it's a bit
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: cringe to show up to a party with a tattoo
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: kit and it's sick and poke. Right, So I've probably
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: given like twenty tattoos in my life.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: But I'm not that good at it, so people will
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: ask for things that I like, I can't.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: But it's kind of not your faults, yeah, I mean, well,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: really very clear.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: I'm like, look, I'm sterilizing everything so you don't have
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: to worry about health, right, But you I can't do
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: much more than that. I can do circle star heart
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: and some I gave one to my friend on her
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: wrist and it looks horrible and I think she hates it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Again, absolutely her fault.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Well, I was a little like, I don't really know
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: what to tell you, Like I did tell you that
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: this was not kind of even if I.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Went to a party and there was like a pretty
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: professional person, I wouldn't expect to get the best tattoo. Yeah,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I think this is a tattoo I've decided to get
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: at a party, right, just on a whim.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: So the fact that anyone would expect you to do
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: anything worse better than the absolute worst.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that for free, by the for free.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, this was my other problem with a
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: splash tattoo at the party. I have to pay for it.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's crazy. Your friend should have paid for that.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not coming to your birthday to pay.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: And she was probably skimming a little off the top.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: It's probably her little busy Yeah, I'm.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Sure, is it? It was it a big birthday, like,
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: because I've only heard of it really at weddings.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Wedding Yeah, okay, and uh oh wow have you ever
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: gotten one?
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I haven't gotten a flash tattoo at an event, but
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: I have a bunch of tattoos.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Oh right, Yeah, I need to I just need to commit.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like, why not?
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: It's fun? But also then sometimes I'm like, I wish
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I had none?
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, why?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: There are a couple I regret, Okay, And then sometimes
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I'd like to not like I've just
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: like to not have them.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Right, just not to be a person without tattoo.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you do have them. Once you have them,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: you have them. And I have some friends who are
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: getting them like laser removed. But it sounds so painful,
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I'm sure, and really expensive.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Body is just being torched. Yeah, yeah, and it's kind
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: of not that effective, right, Like.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: No, it's still like it's just a different tattoo.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Now you just have a worse tattoo. Yeah.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: But I have one that I got like really late
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: one night with this guy who was like so weird whatever,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: and it's like basically like spreading in my body.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I mean it's safe. Shit, Oh that sucks.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: And it was like a very yeah, it looks so bad.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: What was what is it of?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: It's of this like when I was a when I
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: was a pre K assistant teacher, I was like in
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: charge of nap time, okay, and a lot of the
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: kids who didn't want to sleep, I would draw them
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: the squiggle that they could collar.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: In okay okay, And it.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Became like I was doing like twenty squiggles a day.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: But I like it was like I love doing it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: So I made a squiggle for myself and got a tattooed.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of the best version of a tattoo
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: to fall apart.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: I mean if it was kind of nothing before, it'll
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: just be a different Yeah.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Now it's yeah, it's something something else.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna draw classic test and I've I drew something
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: that looks like a squiggle and isn't, which I'll have
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: to explain here.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: I can't wait.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Now I'm drawing a Yeah, should I put a name
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: in the middle. Let's see here, Let's just keep on
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: the name.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: I'll be of the personal marry maybe seth marks.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Now see this squiggle right here was an attempt. This
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: would have required a lot of shading and texture. It
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: was a rock for then, but ultimately it kind of
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: works us both now as a squiggle and a Yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: That's great.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: So that's good. Did you say you have another for me?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: No, I'm hinting, do you want something?
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: No? I feel like I need to do one more
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: before we move on to the game. And I just said,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: let's see here, thinking we're thinking.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Do you have any questions for me?
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Let's see here. I'm trying to think of the things
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you had already drawn on mine. I know you're from
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: New York. I know you hate animation. Yeah, I let's see.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: How often do you get your hair cut? You know,
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I'm growing it out, you are.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: But there was a for many years I had really
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: short hair.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: What's the plan for length?
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: As long as I can?
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Like? Would you like like a length? No? No?
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Like here, I mean like you know Kate ber Lance
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: hair is and cr I mean she is the best.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's really fair to other people. It
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: just feels effortless.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: It's unreal. But like that length I used to I
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: have long hair for a while. Then I just chopped
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: it and buzzed it, and then I was buzzing it.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Then I had picks buzzing it. Oh yeah, that sounds
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: so nice. It was fun, so free. But there was
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: a point where I was going to the lesbian barber
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: once every six weeks spending That's where all of my
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: money went for about a year.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: How much were they charging for a buzz? Well?
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: I was doing a little more than a buzz at
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: that point.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: I had the like kind of like buzz sides with
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: the like you know, oh.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Right right.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Every time I would either bring in a picture of
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Timothy Schalmey or justin bieber and they were like, we
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: can't do this for you, but then I would just
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: pay for whatever they suggested.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: How much were you paying?
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I want to say it was like one hundred and twenty.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: That's tough. This is an indictment of lesbians everywhere. Yep,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: don't trust a lesbian barber. Well, this is kind of
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: a goal for you.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I feel like that would be a good look for you.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: Did you add Banks? Yeah, so you think I should
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: get Banks?
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like it'll be you know, it'll be
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: more like not bangs. It'll just be so long that
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: it'll be like, you know, in a fun everywhere. Yeah where.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's in your face, sometimes it's not. You're flinging it. Yeah,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think you could you do Banks?
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: You mean because of the curly hair. Yeah, you can,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: but not I've I mean, like I have like this.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's a that's a good curly bang.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: But sometimes it'll just.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Right if it's a nightmare, Yeah, I guess you if
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: you really.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Committed to it, you know, as they call the jewfrow.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, sure that for a long time, right, But
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: curly hair is tricky, Yes, it requires a lot of
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: thought and effort.
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: Certainly.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I've I've drawn this for you, You've drawn for me.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I think we should play a game. Great, we're gonna
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: play a game called Gift to a Curse. I need
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: a number between one and ten from you. Seven.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Everyone probably chooses seven.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Okay. I have to do some light calculating to get
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: our game pieces. So right now, you can promote, you
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: can recommend, do whatever you want.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: So, as I mentioned earlier, I am on Jury DUT
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: season two. All episodes are now streaming. How fabulous sometimes
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: that you stand up. I could do flash tattoo.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're online? People can sure? What's this movie you're in?
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Is that out yet?
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: It is a pilot? Oh, it's a pilot, Indy pilot.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: This is an interesting new world for entering, isn't it.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Yes? And it's like it's directed by Nicole Hole of
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Center kind of a legend, produced by Barry Jenkins.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, so this is a real thing.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Well we'll see. I would love for it to be.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, even if it doesn't become a show. I
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: bet it's good.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: It's good. I'm really proud of it. But it's uh,
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: not up to me.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Right, it's kind of a not up to anyone at
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: this point. There's just a pure chance that anything gets made. Yep.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: And I think that that's good.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's really best.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: No one has any control. Yeah, okay, Oh I want
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: to recommend I bet I've already. I went to see
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: Rat Boys last night, our friends, the Rat Boys here
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: in LA and they're a wonderful band, and I just
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: want to keep recommending them. I just adore them. Just
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: I think it might be the second recommendation of the
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: row and I don't care. Ah, And is there anything
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: I'm watching on TV? No, watching Homicide New York. Then
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I thought, no, I don't know what that is, just
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: about murder, and then I was like, yeah, yeah, of
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: course the person got killed because the other person's bad. Yeah,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: there's no mystery, right, Okay, this is how we play
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: gift to a curse. I'm going to name three things.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: You'll tell me if they are a gift or a
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: right or wrong. Oh okay, there are correct answer cool,
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: all right? This first one is from a listener named
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: William Gift or a curse. Gas station security height sticker
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: next to the door.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Wow, well, oh my god, I guess well, ultimately it's
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: a curse. Why One, you're reminded of your own height. Two,
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: obviously it's like surveillance state vibes.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Three I think if people want to lie about their
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: like if you're on a second date and you're going
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: to the gas station and the guy gets out of
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: the car walks in, I think it's his prerogative to
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: lie about his height, and I don't think it's fair
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: for the gas station to out him.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: Interesting, so cursed, Okay, wrong guy, I figured why. I
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: feel like that's added value to the gas station. Where
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: else do you get a free measurement? Yeah? The only
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: other place is you have to go to the doctor's office.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: They should have a scale there too. Should go the
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: way you're saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, I truly have no
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: idea of where else I would learn how maybe there's
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: a chance I grew another light life in Yeah, oh
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: my god. But you know, it's a fun little thing, novelty.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: It's kind of got almost a carnival or fair vibe
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: of like, yeah, I guess your height sort of thing.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: And I think that the other side of the coin
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: is finding out that the man you're dating is lying
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: to you about his height, and then you're like, Okay,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: this is the last time I will cut him off
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: and he'll never know why.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: It's a gift for the non liar.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, okay, all right. The second one
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: is from a listener named Christen gift to a curse
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: season passes curse.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Why then you have to go? It's like buying a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: metro card and you don't use it enough. I mean,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: I guess that's not a thing anymore, but it's like
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I would always be like I shouldn't walk, I should
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: take the train, I have to use this by the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: end of the week whatever. And it's like, well, I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: don't want to go to Universal Studios, but like I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: have to. I have a season bass. I understand there
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: are perks to it, but I think it's more of
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: a burden.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Correct curse because I don't want to commit to that, right,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I don't want. I feel like it it's a thing
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: where they don't believe in people changing. Yeah, you know,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: I buy it. What if I become a different person?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I don't want to go to disneyling right right, right, right?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: And truly the pressure of getting your value. Yeah, no,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: thank you, No, that ruins the entire experience. You're a prisoner, yeah,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: until the pass is over. Yeah, and also you might
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: get one of those annoying bumper stickers.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: Don't get me started.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: This final one is from Alex. Gift or a curse
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: putting new bottles of condiments in the fridge without opening
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: them first.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: I wish I could. I mean, that's a curse. I
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: should have said the first one was a gift because
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: I was on the fence about it. But all three
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: are curses. That is such a dick move, don't you think?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: It's like then whoever opens it has to open it.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: And it's like when you're in the shower and you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: put a new shampoo thing in and then now you
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: have a paper thing in the shower with you, Like
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: it's just like, why I wish that they didn't sell
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: it with the paper.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: You're against government regulation?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, is that what it is?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: I'm sure to.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: Keep it clean. Yeah, Well everything's still you know, what's.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: The word I could truly cuss any more? The thing?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll start with A and I'll just
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: go to the end of the dictionary. No, you're you're
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: wrong here this. I think this is a gift. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: actually have never with condiments in the fridge. I've never
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: considered until I'm going to use them, I want them
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: totally sealed. I feel like you're like said it, you're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: lighting a fuse on the expiration.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Time the first time you use it, you take it off.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: But it seems like this person's like, you get home
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: from the store, you have all of your condiments on
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: the counter. You're taking off all the things then putting
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: them in the fridge. Yes, absolutely not. Is that a
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: real thing people do?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I will do that. I hate it. Pisces me off.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, I hate the sound of this. I agree with
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: the shower thing because that's not going to expire, and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: we don't want the thing in the shower. No, those
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: things take usually three to four weeks to get out
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: of the shower. Once they've been Where do you put
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: it on the wall? I have like a little ledge
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: that I put the soap on it, then the thing
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: sits next to it. Yeah for ages, yeah yeah, But
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: with the condiments, I'm you know, I put the mustard
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: in there until it's time to go on the sandwich.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Totally sealed. It's a gift, so you got one right,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: Said they're all curses. It's horrible things, negative attitude.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: All right, this is the final segment of the podcast.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: We're going to answer a listener question people are writing into.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I said, no gifts at gmail dot com. I don't
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: know why I paused there, like I was gonna say
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Yahoo or something. We hope me answer a question, of course. Okay,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: let's see here. This is uh hate when they don't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: address the guest. It just is highbridge here, which is
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: just thoughtless. It says, I need help choosing a going
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: away gift for my sister who is moving to Alaska
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: in a few weeks. She will be working in the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: mental health field with AmeriCorps. She has to pack light,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: so the gift can't be bulky. She likes goth fashion,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Instagram and gummy warm Thanks. That's from Natalie and Baltimore.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: So we found someone who likes Instagram.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: So that's the obviously get hot Happy Bunny shirt.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: It's very hot topic. That's very mom. You can't tell
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: me what to do.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she likes Instagram. What is on Instagram that like?
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Sod?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: Just bring your phone?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: What do you get? Love Instagram? Merch. Do they sell merch?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine maybe there's like a special like because
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  Speaker 4: the last guy, imagine it's quite beautiful when the sun
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  Speaker 4: is out, Maybe like a special like camera.
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  Speaker 3: One of those little lenses you can put on the phone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: really take it to the next level. Yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 3: genuinely good gift idea. It doesn't happen on this podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I really have a great gift giver.
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  Speaker 3: I've kind of won. Yeah, of course I've wanted one
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  Speaker 3: of those, but you know, it's a hard thing to
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  Speaker 3: commit to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean if I saw you putting
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  Speaker 4: that on. Yeah, but in a mental health.
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  Speaker 3: Facility, Yeah, in Alaska, and I think there's probably a
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  Speaker 3: lot of mental health issues in Alaska for sure. That's
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  Speaker 3: a place where it can get very dark and lonely.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you.
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  Speaker 4: Should get her like one of those lights.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right u u V light.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I think it probably works in the fact that you're
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  Speaker 3: saying I'm doing this for myself. Yeah, and then I
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  Speaker 3: just placebo Yeah, and gummy worms, you know what I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about. Actually recently, have you ever had those
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  Speaker 3: little bright Crawler eggs. I know what you're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: but no, did they still I wonder if they still
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  Speaker 3: sell those. That was like kind of the best version
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  Speaker 3: of a sour gummy County because it wasn't a full worm.
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  Speaker 3: It was an egg and had like two textures.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find some of the inside.
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  Speaker 3: It had like gummy worm interesting, so it was like
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  Speaker 3: slimy they were, and they were like a little sour.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying, yes, yeah, the trolley sour bright eggs. They
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  Speaker 5: might have rebranded themselves. I love those things, but it
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  Speaker 5: looks like it's still you can get them on and
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  Speaker 5: order them on door dash right now, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get them over. Have you had those als?
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  Speaker 4: No sour things. I'm obsessed with all things.
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  Speaker 3: Our people have got to get into these things. Those
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  Speaker 3: kind of were my diet through seventh and eighth grade,
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  Speaker 3: just eating gummy mine cookie. See this that we can
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  Speaker 3: really connect here.
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  Speaker 4: I had one big cookie for lunch every day.
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  Speaker 3: I had I think four small cookies for lunch every
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  Speaker 3: day because my mom, I think, would give us like
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  Speaker 3: three dollars for lunch or something, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: save some of the money to buy video games, so
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  Speaker 3: I would buy cookies and milk. Yeah, which is probably
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: why I'm the height I am. Yeah, for sure, definitely,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure. There were so many things.
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  Speaker 4: One quite sure too.
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  Speaker 3: We found a real commonality. Yeah, this is not kind
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  Speaker 3: of a scientific short. I'm going to draw you one
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  Speaker 3: final thing.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think you'll frame that? I was meant to
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  Speaker 4: bring a frame.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I will frame it. Actually, I can put this
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  Speaker 3: in sign it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna draw Rachel Collie.
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  Speaker 5: Is there anything that you guys haven't mentioned that you've drawn.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to make sure that the listener gets
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  Speaker 5: a picture of not me.
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  Speaker 4: I just added short.
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  Speaker 3: I drew Uh well, then this is also very strange.
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  Speaker 3: What just happened. I drew you a cookie, a chocolate
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  Speaker 3: chip cookie, and then I thought, well I should draw
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: another to kind of indicate that it's a cookie, but
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  Speaker 3: with a bite out of it.
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  Speaker 4: And now Bart Simpson and then it looks like six
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: looks that's crazy that.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like Bart Simpson with acne. Well, that's and
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  Speaker 3: that's totally fine. That's how art works.
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  Speaker 4: Great, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh well, we I think we answered the question perfectly.
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  Speaker 3: Good luck in Alaska, defin, sister, go save everyone in Alaska.
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  Speaker 3: We have we both have a gift. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that I've ever given a guest on this podcast
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: a gift, which is what does that say about me?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question. And I did force your hand, You.
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  Speaker 3: Did kind of force my yeah, no choice. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I'll get this frame you won't put in the studio
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  Speaker 3: or something.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: If it's such a lovely time with you and me too.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you for being here, Thanks for having me listener.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: The podcast is over. I'm only sweating lightly. You're probably
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: sweating like crazy because you've been listening to this podcast.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: So now you've got to go do something else. Move on,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: I love you, goodbye. I said No Gifts is an
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts, that's
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.
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  Speaker 4: But you're a guess to my home.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guess,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: your own presences presents enough.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff, So how did you
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: dare to surbey me?