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The Abdul El-Sayed Special · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show on a Tuesday. It
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  Speaker 1: is Abdul El-Sayed Day. And I'm devoting most of my
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  Speaker 1: broadcast to running through my endless amount of audio and
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  Speaker 1: video on Abdul El-Sayed, the most radical major party candidate
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  Speaker 1: for the United States Senate from left or right in
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  Speaker 1: my lifetime. Running in Michigan against Mike Rogers, who will
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  Speaker 1: be on tomorrow. Mr. El-Sayed is, of course, Dr. El-Sayed is,
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  Speaker 1: of course, welcome on the Hugh Hewitt Show anytime he
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  Speaker 1: would like to come on for as long as he
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  Speaker 1: would like to come on. But in lieu of his
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  Speaker 1: being here, I'm just going to play you the clips.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to start with his attempt to appeal to
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  Speaker 1: black America in Michigan because he is not getting that vote.
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  Speaker 1: When overwhelmingly for his primary opponent, Haley Stevens, and it's
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  Speaker 1: tough for him to wrestle it in, there's a historic
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  Speaker 1: Arab-Black divide in and around Detroit, and he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: break through that by pandering. Cut number seven. Right now
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  Speaker 1: in our.
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  Speaker 2: Country, the vast majority of people of color are funded
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  Speaker 2: on government health insurance programs. that do not reimburse at
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  Speaker 2: the same level as private health insurance. So we basically
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  Speaker 2: are saying that in our country, care provided for a
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  Speaker 2: black child, for example, is reimbursed at nearly half the
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  Speaker 2: rate as a white child. We're basically valuing that child's
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  Speaker 2: body differently. Medicare for All would sit there and say, no,
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  Speaker 2: not a program for low-income.
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  Speaker 1: People and then another program for seniors.
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  Speaker 2: One program that guarantees and backstops everybody. Now, the challenge
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  Speaker 2: when your health care is not reimbursed at the same
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  Speaker 2: level is that you end up getting discriminated against at
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  Speaker 2: the point of care.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And I've seen that with my own eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And it's heart-wrenching.
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  Speaker 2: But if you have the security of Medicare in your
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  Speaker 2: back pocket, no matter who you are, the system doesn't
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  Speaker 2: discriminate against you because your body commands the same quality
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  Speaker 2: of care, the same reimbursement rate as anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep going with the pandering. Cut number eight.
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  Speaker 4: On the removal of.
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  Speaker 2: A whole people.
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  Speaker 6: Founded on the idea that we could compromise on whether
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  Speaker 6: or not people, as a function of the color of
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  Speaker 6: their skin, could be enslaved by other people.
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  Speaker 7: Founded under the idea that all people are created equal.
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  Speaker 3: All men, but that only meant certain men, and not women.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep now going down to one of my
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  Speaker 1: more favorite bits of Abdul El-Sayed, where he begins with taktus.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number 10.
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  Speaker 8: But let me tell you about an interview that my colleague,
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  Speaker 8: Nambi Egewamu, just did with Haley Stevens.
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  Speaker 9: She said, you have made this whole race about Israel
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  Speaker 9: and not Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would just say that the money that we
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  Speaker 2: send abroad to Israel is money that we don't keep
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  Speaker 2: here to invest in our infrastructure here and our schools
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  Speaker 2: here and.
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  Speaker 10: Our health care here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the one running to send my tax dollars
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  Speaker 2: somewhere else. I'm the one running to keep it here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the one.
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  Speaker 2: Running with, what, $ 30 million of AIPAC spending.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to send our money somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the one running against that to keep it here.
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  Speaker 2: So it's nice to say I've made the whole race
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  Speaker 2: about something else. I'm just saying she wants to make.
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  Speaker 3: Her entire time in the Senate about something else.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, look, the conversation's
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  Speaker 2: been done. Voters are choosing today.
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  Speaker 3: Where they want to go. And I think it is
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  Speaker 3: time for us to bring.
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  Speaker 2: The party together so that we make sure that we
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  Speaker 2: beat Mike Rogers in November. So I'm not interested in
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  Speaker 2: continuing to prosecute this race. I think we've said what
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  Speaker 2: we need to say. I'm interested in figuring out how
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  Speaker 2: to heal those divides.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so there you've got, he's anti-Haley Stevens, he's anti-Israel.
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  Speaker 1: He actually, we'll have more of this a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later in the program. He's anti-Jew. He's an anti-Semite. In
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  Speaker 1: my belief, in my heart, I believe in his heart,
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  Speaker 1: he's anti-Semitic. But we know one thing, he hates Mackinac Island.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number 13. Please watch your step.
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  Speaker 11: I hate Mackinac so much.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because, like, if we win, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be the, like.
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  Speaker 1: He hates Mackinac Island, which is emblematic of the Upper Peninsula,
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  Speaker 1: which means he's lost everything north of Detroit. Can he
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  Speaker 1: win on Detroit, Dearborn, and Ann Arbor? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Now we have a White House montage,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope that Harley did the bleep. Did Harley
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  Speaker 1: did the bleep that we need bleeped? Okay, cut number 14.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that we do need to defund the police.
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  Speaker 3: I actually believe in court reform, right? In Supreme Court reform.
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  Speaker 2: Every president should get three appointments. You can either use
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  Speaker 2: your appointment to give somebody who's on the court a
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  Speaker 2: second 10-year term and limit everybody's terms.
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  Speaker 3: To 10 years, or you can include somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Would that expand the court? Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But there's nothing in the Constitution that says there have
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  Speaker 2: to be nine justices. And like the things that I
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  Speaker 2: actually look at on Instagram, right?
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  Speaker 10: Of course, we get.
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  Speaker 3: Served that on your For You page.
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  Speaker 2: But then like every third video that scrolls on its own.
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  Speaker 3: Is going to be some OnlyFans model.
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  Speaker 2: I think the foundational issue here is we need to
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  Speaker 2: start taxing billionaire wealth. Right. And when you tax billionaire wealth,
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  Speaker 2: you disincentivize the accumulation of wealth. If you cannot stand
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  Speaker 2: for trans rights, do not be surprised when they come
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  Speaker 2: for your rights. I look forward to pushing forward legislation
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  Speaker 2: that would preempt localities from participating with ICE. We've also
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  Speaker 2: got to make sure that in this state we are
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  Speaker 2: not discriminating by documentation status.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, if you're undocumented.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get access to a driver's license, so you're stuck.
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  Speaker 2: You don't get access to a lot of the basic
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  Speaker 2: things the state offers everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: And so we've got to stop discriminating that way.
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  Speaker 1: There is no reforming. There is no retraining. There is
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  Speaker 1: only abolishing ICE. F * * * ICE.
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  Speaker 3: That you can't reform ICE? You can't retrain ICE. You
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  Speaker 3: have to abolish ICE.
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  Speaker 1: It started.
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  Speaker 3: It was a bad experiment. It's been weaponized to do
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  Speaker 3: the worst things. And I think we need to abolish
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  Speaker 3: it and start from scratch.
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  Speaker 2: I think he should be impeached. I do not think
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  Speaker 2: he should be president of the United States. I think he,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's done impeachable things. Obviously, as a future senator,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in a position to impeach. But when they
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  Speaker 2: make the case about the impeachable things I have seen
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  Speaker 2: with my own eyes, I will vote accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: So do you think the Israeli government should be considered
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  Speaker 1: by the U.S. as a foreign terrorist organization?
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  Speaker 3: It's certainly a rogue state.
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  Speaker 9: You're not going to play the gotcha game, but you're
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  Speaker 9: not going to say you think Israel.
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  Speaker 3: Has the right to do this.
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  Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is that these wildfires are
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  Speaker 2: happening more often because it's drier and hotter than it
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  Speaker 2: has been in the past. It's drier and hotter because
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  Speaker 2: we continue to rely on fossil fuels for our energy.
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  Speaker 2: We need to get to 100% renewable energy. Number one,
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  Speaker 2: put as much sand in the gears into what Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump and his acolytes are doing. And number two, build
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  Speaker 2: the conversation with the American public that gets us to
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  Speaker 2: the after-Trump foundation.
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  Speaker 9: What do you tell those people... about whether or not
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  Speaker 9: this is a pie-in-the-sky dream that you're going around Michigan
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  Speaker 9: talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, clearly I'm a different kind of Democrat. That was
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  Speaker 1: from the White House. Yeah, we had to edit one
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  Speaker 1: word out because it's not acceptable over the FCC. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I also want to meet the press with Christian Welker,
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  Speaker 1: cut number 15.
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  Speaker 8: You know, you face scrutiny for campaigning with socialist streamer
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  Speaker 8: Hassan Piker, who has made a series of inflammatory comments,
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  Speaker 8: as you well know, including saying America deserved 9-11, describing
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  Speaker 8: Hamas as a lesser evil than Israel. Do you plan
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  Speaker 8: to continue to campaign with Hassan Piker in the general
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  Speaker 8: election campaign?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I'm less concerned now with who I'm campaigning with,
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  Speaker 2: a lot more concerned about who I'm campaigning to. We've
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of work to do to continue to
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  Speaker 2: build the coalition that's going to beat Mike Rogers.
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  Speaker 8: Would you welcome him, though, on the campaign trail?
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm a lot more focused on who
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  Speaker 2: I'm campaigning to. So I think we have this. notion
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  Speaker 2: sometimes on shows like this that we cannot or should
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  Speaker 2: not talk to certain groups of people. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you that the three million people who listen to Hassan
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  Speaker 2: are people I want to make sure understand that there's
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  Speaker 2: a pathway into our politics around getting money out of
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  Speaker 2: politics so we can keep money back in pockets and
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  Speaker 2: pass Medicare for all. And so I'm going to continue
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  Speaker 2: to have the conversations with those folks. who we desperately
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  Speaker 2: need to reach out to, just like I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: continue to have conversations with seniors in senior homes, folks
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  Speaker 2: up north, folks in.
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  Speaker 3: Detroit, folks in Grand Rapids.
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  Speaker 2: So, again, I'm a lot more focused on who I'm
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  Speaker 2: campaigning to rather than who I might campaign with.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to continue to talk about Assange Piker
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  Speaker 1: cut number 17 during that interview.
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  Speaker 2: You know, to sit here and play gotcha politics with
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  Speaker 2: a dumb thing somebody said out of context that they
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  Speaker 2: disavowed themselves to say, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what does that mean about what you think? I
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  Speaker 3: want to be held accountable for.
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  Speaker 2: What I say and what I do, rather than this
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  Speaker 2: idea that we're so stuck in cancel culture that all
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  Speaker 2: of us agreed was a bad idea back.
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  Speaker 3: In 2020, but we seem to want to bring back.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Cut number 16 on Meet the Press.
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  Speaker 8: Just to be very clear, you're describing this trade-off. You
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  Speaker 8: are effectively acknowledging that people making less than a million
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  Speaker 8: dollars could see their taxes go up. I just want
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  Speaker 8: to be very clear.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a yes?
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying that we'd be paying for health care in
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  Speaker 2: a different way. Instead of paying a health insurance company
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  Speaker 2: whose CEO makes $ 20 million, I would much rather pay
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  Speaker 2: for durable health care into a government, which, of course,
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  Speaker 2: we all know provides health care for seniors who need
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  Speaker 2: health care the most. So if I'm trading paying a
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  Speaker 2: CEO to make more money or paying government to guarantee
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  Speaker 2: me health care, I'm picking the latter every time.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number 18 so you don't miss the point.
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  Speaker 8: Some Americans worry, though, you can only make Medicare free
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  Speaker 8: and universal if you increase taxes. So if you are
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  Speaker 8: elected and make this push, would you need to increase taxes?
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  Speaker 2: As I've said across this campaign, I am for taxing
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  Speaker 2: billionaires their wealth.
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  Speaker 8: What about people who make.
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  Speaker 3: Less than a billion and less.
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  Speaker 8: Than a million dollars, though, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: El-Sayed?
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  Speaker 8: What about people making less than a million dollars?
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  Speaker 2: So for the average person, and you look at your W-2,
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  Speaker 2: if you're an employee, he gets paid every two weeks
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  Speaker 2: or four weeks.
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  Speaker 3: After you pay your.
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  Speaker 2: Taxes, the next biggest check that comes off the top
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  Speaker 2: of your pay stub is to your health insurance company.
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  Speaker 3: So imagine instead of paying.
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  Speaker 2: That to your health insurance company, whose CEO makes $ 20
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  Speaker 2: million a year, instead you paid a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: in taxes for health care that you wouldn't lose if
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  Speaker 2: you lost your job or turned 26th.
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  Speaker 1: Answer is, taxes are going up if he wins Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody out there, if you're not a Michigander, tell everyone
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  Speaker 1: you know in Michigan, this guy's a radical. Stay tuned
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  Speaker 1: for more Abdul El-Sayed on the Hugh Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. Welcome to Abdul El-Sayed Day on the
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt Show, where my focus is like a laser
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  Speaker 1: on the most radical major party nominee for the United
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  Speaker 1: States Senate in my lifetime. Now, he is not a
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  Speaker 1: radical because he's a Muslim. Before 9-11, five years before 9-11,
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  Speaker 1: I made a series called Searching for God in America.
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  Speaker 1: I sat down with an imam. I thought that Muslim
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  Speaker 1: Americans would just become part of the great tapestry of America.
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  Speaker 1: And by and large, they have. But there is a
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  Speaker 1: radical element within them. And Abdul Sayyed seems to me
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  Speaker 1: to be from that radical element. Cut number 19.
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  Speaker 3: In the country.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you might not have a race with Muslims, but
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, Muslims.
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  Speaker 1: Are definitely a issue with me. Okay, he's talking to
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  Speaker 1: a specific person there. I don't want to take it
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  Speaker 1: out of context. Cut number 20 at a, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: a care gathering, KAIR, the Council on Arab-Islamic Relations, American-Islamic Relations.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number 20.
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  Speaker 2: But I was reminded, actually, about events that I remember
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  Speaker 2: because I was an adult when they happened. And that
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  Speaker 2: was question 755. When the state of Oklahoma voted in
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  Speaker 2: a referendum to amend the constitution to ban Sharia law.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean? I don't know. And yet the
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  Speaker 3: voters banned it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: What I offer today is just a reflection on the
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  Speaker 2: American history that runs through this state.
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  Speaker 1: You all sitting in this room.
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  Speaker 2: In this town, We're sitting in a space, in a time,
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  Speaker 2: when I don't have to tell you that the same
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  Speaker 2: exact forces that drove native peoples from their land two
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  Speaker 2: centuries ago, destroyed Black Wall Street a century ago, bombed
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  Speaker 2: a building decades ago, and tried to ban Sharia law
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  Speaker 2: not a decade ago, those forces are alive and well today.
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  Speaker 1: So he's not going to carry Oklahoma when he runs
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  Speaker 1: for president if he wins the Senate race, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's going to win the Senate race. Here
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  Speaker 1: is a roundtable with Rashida Tlaib, cut number 21.
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  Speaker 12: So I got to grow up watching Rashida be an
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  Speaker 12: elected official. So Rashida's like my older sister. Every time
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  Speaker 12: I make a mistake, she's like, I just get the
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  Speaker 12: text message. She's like very much older sister energy, and
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  Speaker 12: I'm like, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize.
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  Speaker 5: I just care enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, but the point that I'm making is, What
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  Speaker 2: better joy and appreciation than to have somebody who's looking
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  Speaker 2: out for you who's been there before?
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  Speaker 1: All right, so we're putting him in the Rashida Tlaib
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  Speaker 1: squad area of the Congress, which is roped off from
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the Congress on the left-hand side. This
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  Speaker 1: is some RNC audio on football. A couple of cuts,
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  Speaker 1: cut 22.
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  Speaker 2: Football is very much associated with a particularly masculine and
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes toxic, toxically masculine culture. And so much of it
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  Speaker 2: was about you wanted to be able to get back
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  Speaker 2: up and play for your team. And you you really
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  Speaker 2: aren't allowed to show pain or vulnerability. That's part of
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  Speaker 2: the sport.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So he doesn't like football. He really doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like football. Cut number 23.
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  Speaker 3: Let alone what that tells us about where our country does. Right.
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  Speaker 3: You think about all the wars.
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  Speaker 2: That we fight abroad, um, all of the, the sordid
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  Speaker 2: history of oppressing other people in the name of this
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  Speaker 2: American idea, right? Whether it was quote manifest destiny and destroying, uh,
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  Speaker 2: native Americans, or it was, um, the, the, the transatlantic
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  Speaker 2: slave trade where, you know, folks who quote founded this country, uh,
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  Speaker 2: on the backs of, of native folks that they destroyed, um, then, uh,
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  Speaker 2: captured people, enslaved them and had them work their fields, um,
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  Speaker 2: Because they thought it was their right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And all of this, like a lot of these narratives
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  Speaker 2: you kind of see echoed in the ethos of football.
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  Speaker 2: So I ask you, like, is there a productive way
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  Speaker 2: to do football that, you know, beyond even the injury?
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  Speaker 1: I don't really think there's any analogy between slavery and
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  Speaker 1: football or the devastation of the native tribes in football.
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  Speaker 1: I think football is about football. Cut number 24 podcast
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  Speaker 1: with the one and only Jennifer Welch.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be the chief war hawk in the U.S. Senate.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be the guy pushing for more war
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  Speaker 2: that raises your prices for gas and groceries. If that's
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  Speaker 2: what we want in Michigan, a state where too many
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  Speaker 2: of us have had to suffer the consequences of war,
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  Speaker 2: both in our pocketbook or worse, more directly, when you
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  Speaker 2: think about the lives lost to service members, heroic people
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  Speaker 2: who put their lives on the line. If we want
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  Speaker 2: to push back against Trumpism, this is that race. I
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  Speaker 2: don't take money from weapons manufacturers. I don't take money
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  Speaker 2: from AIPAC. If anything, AIPAC has called me the single
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  Speaker 2: most dangerous candidate for the U.S.-Israel relationship because they know
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  Speaker 2: that I am dead set against sending our money to
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  Speaker 2: buy bombs and tanks elsewhere. There could not be a
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  Speaker 2: bigger contrast. I am truly America first. I want our
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  Speaker 2: tax dollars spent on kids' schools. and fixing our roads
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  Speaker 2: and our infrastructure, not dropping bombs on other people, their schools,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: and their roads and infrastructure.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Contrast couldn't be bigger.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the Nashville shooting by a trans
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: person who was completely off their rocker, cut number 25.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Another elementary school got shot up this week.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: This time, it was a Christian private school in Tennessee
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: where a shooter killed three adults and three children, all
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: under nine years old. Rather than the perpetual problem of
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: unfettered access to guns, right-wing media have chosen to concentrate
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: on the shooter, a former student at the school who
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: identified as trans, arguing that the attack was some kind
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: of broader attack in an escalating battle between trans people
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: and Christians.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Look, y'all, I'm Muslim.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I know what happens when people essentialize everyone with a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: particular identity based on the actions of one individual who
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: happens to identify that way.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: And that's a dangerous brew. Because the other thing that
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: happened this week?
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Is that the Republicans in the legislature of the state
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: of Kentucky forced through a draconian set of anti-trans laws,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: overriding the veto of their Democratic governor. And all that's
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: going to do is rob thousands of people of basic
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: civil rights. The epidemic of gun violence in this country
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with trans people. It has everything
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: to do with the unfettered access to guns. Considering the
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: last story I told you about, imagine what America might
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: be if we took access to healthcare as seriously as
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: some people take access to guns.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: If I could tweak one thing about the Constitution.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: It would be two words in the Second Amendment, from
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the right to bear arms to the right to have
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: health care.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Guns take a lot of lives in America. Health care?
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Health care saves them. That's it for today.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That's it for today. They have just, by the way,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: released Mike Rogers' campaign, released last night's fundraiser at the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Soros estate in Los Angeles. Someone leaked the audio and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: video of that. We'll get that for you. But let's
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: close this segment with Cut 26 of Abdul El-Sayed podcast.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Health care. should be a choice made by a patient
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: and their doctor.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: If that patient is under the age of 18, their
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: parents as well, right? And I believe that Medicare for
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: all should cover all health care, which is defined by
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: what a patient needs in accordance with their doctor. So
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: that includes reproductive rights, right? That includes gender-affirming care.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: That includes anything you want. Because the sky's the limit
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: under Medicare for All. We're going to pay for everything
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: you want, no matter how much it costs, no matter
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: how objectionable it is to the rest of the country.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It's all coming your way. Don't go anywhere. I'm at
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: cut 27, 45 of them. I'm saving some for Matt
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Continetti later, who will be with me in hour number three. But,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Mike Rogers for Michigan. All right, go find
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the Mike Rogers campaign and give him some money, because
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: this guy cannot be in the United States Senate. Abdul
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: El-Sayed cannot be in the United States Senate. He's the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: most radical, single, by far, not even close. I mean,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Tallarico's pretty nuts, and Troy Jackson is way to the left.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But those two guys do not hold a candle to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: how radical Abdul El-Sayed is. And what a nightmare for
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the country if he's in the Senate. Stay tuned. Welcome back, America.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. It's Abdul El-Sayed Day on this Tuesday.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: As September winds down, I just want to catch everyone
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: up in advance of the October campaign onslaught of ads.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: This is what we've got to date. Cut number 27
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: of Abdul El-Sayed.
• 19:36
  Speaker 13: Are you in favor of public ownership models like the
• 19:39
  Speaker 13: one Bernie introduced?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I want to actually take it a step further.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I agree that we need public ownership, but I also
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: agree that we need some system of public control.
• 19:48
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Like what is the point of democracy if it's not
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to protect us?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Okay. Nobody quite knows what that means. Public ownership model.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I think it just means communism, but you decide. Remember,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: there's also the absurd part of the Abdul El-Sayed that
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: we've grown to know and love. Cut number 28 is blues, cruise,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: cringe video.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Here's the mail. It never fails.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It makes me want to wag my tail.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: When it comes, I want to wail.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Mail! Thanks, mailbox.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: We just got a letter. We just got a letter.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: We just got a letter. I wonder who it's from.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: It looks like my ballot. Brought to me by my
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Secretary of State. And with it, I can participate in democracy.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: The first day that I can turn this in is
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: June 25th. It has to be postmarked.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: By July 21st.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Or I can drop it off up until Election Day,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: which is August 4th. Thanks, Secretary of State.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Thanks, mailbox. Folks could do what we can too.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: All right, that reminds you that he's so cringe. But
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: have we seen anything like that? For the early vote
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that is now underway, the absentee balloting, which is now
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: underway in Michigan. Don't know. Don't know. Hope we don't.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to regular Abdul El-Sayed talking nonsense. Cut
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: number 29.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It is going to require taxes. And the question of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: who pays those taxes is an important question. There was
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a philosophical debate about how much of those taxes we
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: would ask working Americans to pay. And I fall on
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the argument that I think it's important that from the
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: political economy perspective, that everybody pays a bit in. Because
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: when you look at conservative arguments for Social Security and Medicare,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: it almost always has to do with the fact that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I paid into the system, ergo I take from the system.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And I think that is a justification that's worth investing
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: in here.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: All right. Let's amplify that by skipping a cut. Go
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: down to 31, Harley.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: What Medicare for all does is it does away with
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the private insurance market, right?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It now has one single payer. That's why we call
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it single payer, right?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: One insurance. And that is the government of the United States.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: All right. Just so we're clear, he's a single payer
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Medicare for all guy that we will block that back
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: as we get later in the program. Also a reminder
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of Michigan, why he loves you so much. Cut number 30.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Between my day job, this one, and general goings on
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: in this sometimes awful sordid world, I was really feeling it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: The usual spirit that I try to bring to my
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: work faded.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Every email became an annoyance. Every issue at work, a drag.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Vacation couldn't come soon enough. Michigan around this time of year,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: let's just say it's not its most inspiring. The sun
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: barely comes up and then it's down again by five o'clock.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: leaving you in a dark, desolate freeze. So we booked
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: a trip to LA. And though Angelenos may complain about
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: highs in the 60s, it does come with sun.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: And look, this Michigander will take it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: All right, let's do some identity politics with Abdul El-Sayed,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: cut number 32. What do you just make it just
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: happen there?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: A guy saying you're an Arab, you don't care about
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: black folks.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: You know, I.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: Hate to say this, but I continue to hear it
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: from older black folks and people like this.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I like somebody that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: They're uncommitted for you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You know, there's been an effort, I think, to divide
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: people against each other. And unfortunately, you see the consequence
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: of that. To tell us that some group or another
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: group have to be counterposed because there's not enough for
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: all of us.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I am Arab.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm also African. My family immigrated to this country from Egypt.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I'm proud of my African heritage.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He went double down on that, by the way. Cut 33.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I'm Egyptian-American. I am both African.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And Arab.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: That's what North Africa is.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: That's actually quite the redefinition of what it means to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: be an African. Let me get one more in. Let's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: go to the C-SPAN. Let's talk about fighting oligarchy. Cut 41.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: We need Democrats who have the courage to stand up
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to the power brokers in our own party, let.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Alone Trump and his goons.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: We don't back down. We don't back down.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: We don't back down.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: With all due respect, if they go low, we don't
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: go high.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: We take them to the mud and choke them out.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Choke them out. That's your future United States Senator, Michigan,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: unless you do the smart thing and vote for Mike Rogers.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: More on Abdul El-Sayed Day coming up with the Dispatch
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: political reporter, David Drucker. Stay tuned. Welcome back, America. I'm
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt on Abdul El-Sayed Day. I'm joined by David Drucker,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Bloomberg Opinion Contributor. Hello, David. Welcome to Abdul El-Sayed Day,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: where General Lee Simone is giving me 79 clips of
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed. You happen to walk into the room when
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: we come up to the Jesse Waters interview. So I'm
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: going to play a clip for you and have you comment.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Cut number 35, Jesse and Abdul.
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: We're all good.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You also said your point.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Jesse, Jesse, let me answer the question.
• 25:19
  Speaker 10: To answer it, how many do we have?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Fewer when we had INS.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: To your to your answer. Yeah, exactly. When we had exactly.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: We know that's worked a lot better.
• 25:27
  Speaker 15: Abdo, listen, we had twice as many illegals.
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: Now we have your argument. You have to have the
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: manpower to do it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: If you want to do that correlation. We have ICE now,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and we have far, far more undocumented people.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: So ICE is clearly not working.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's just shooting, like, American citizens in the face and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the back of the head.
• 25:44
  Speaker 15: Well, illegals are shooting.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: People in the face, too.
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: I guess we just have to agree to disagree.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: So, David, does that help Abdul, or does it hurt him?
• 25:53
  Speaker 16: I'm not sure, and it might be a wash, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 16: let me explain to you. I think there are a
• 25:56
  Speaker 16: lot of voters, particularly when we're looking here at a
• 25:59
  Speaker 16: swing state and not a red state, that were appalled
• 26:01
  Speaker 16: by what happened in Minnesota and a lot of the
• 26:04
  Speaker 16: news reports about how ICE has been handling interior immigration
• 26:08
  Speaker 16: enforcement around the country. They think it's been excessive, extra-constitutional,
• 26:12
  Speaker 16: and unnecessarily violent.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: On the other hand, and this is.
• 26:15
  Speaker 16: Something that I peppered Abdul El-Sayed about when I was
• 26:19
  Speaker 16: covering him in Michigan back in July, if you're going
• 26:22
  Speaker 16: to propose collapsing ICE, abolishing.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: It, if you will, you need an alternative.
• 26:30
  Speaker 16: And I asked him repeatedly, okay, that's fine because you're right.
• 26:33
  Speaker 16: ICE hasn't always existed, yet we have always done immigration enforcement.
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: So how would you replace ICE or how would you
• 26:40
  Speaker 16: refashion interior immigration enforcement so that it still occurs? He
• 26:45
  Speaker 16: didn't have an answer for me or wouldn't give me one.
• 26:48
  Speaker 16: Either way, and I've written about this from Bloomberg, if
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: you're running on abolishing ICE without explaining how you would
• 26:55
  Speaker 16: do interior immigration enforcement instead.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you could.
• 27:00
  Speaker 16: Run into a political problem because Americans, even many Americans
• 27:04
  Speaker 16: appalled at how ICE has been conducting itself and how
• 27:08
  Speaker 16: immigration enforcement has been handled by ICE in the second
• 27:12
  Speaker 16: Trump term, don't want to revert back to no interior enforcement.
• 27:17
  Speaker 16: They just want it done right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: All right, fair enough. How about the fact he did
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Jesse Watters and sat down with him but has not
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: sat down with another conservative or center-right host since then?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Is that good or bad for him that he did
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: it once but not twice?
• 27:34
  Speaker 16: I think it's only a net plus that he did
• 27:35
  Speaker 16: it once because Jesse Waters and Fox News gets so
• 27:39
  Speaker 16: much publicity, particularly on the right, and because he has
• 27:44
  Speaker 16: sat for hostile interviews and taken a lot of questions.
• 27:48
  Speaker 16: In fact, I wrote about this for Bloomberg today. The
• 27:51
  Speaker 16: Republican theory of the case in Michigan, the Rogers theory
• 27:54
  Speaker 16: of the case, is that El-Sayed is overexposing himself. But
• 27:59
  Speaker 16: I think the one thing you can say about El-Sayed's
• 28:01
  Speaker 16: campaign is that it's a modern media campaign that really
• 28:04
  Speaker 16: reminds me of Donald Trump in that he goes most places.
• 28:09
  Speaker 16: He goes almost everywhere, including into hostile podcast interviews. I mean,
• 28:14
  Speaker 16: when I was questioning him in July, I had nothing
• 28:18
  Speaker 16: but challenging, though fair, but very challenging questions for him
• 28:21
  Speaker 16: about his Medicare for All plan, about his treatment.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Of Israel, about ICE.
• 28:27
  Speaker 16: And he was still very cordial and happy to take
• 28:29
  Speaker 16: my questions at one point saying, oh, no, no, no,
• 28:32
  Speaker 16: I owed you another question, knowing it was only going
• 28:33
  Speaker 16: to be a tough question.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And so I don't think he's going to.
• 28:36
  Speaker 16: Get penalized for this. The Rogers theory of the case
• 28:38
  Speaker 16: is that he's going to say things too often that
• 28:41
  Speaker 16: are going to rub too many voters the wrong way.
• 28:44
  Speaker 16: But the other side of that is that he may
• 28:47
  Speaker 16: be controlling the narrative and exposing himself to voters who
• 28:50
  Speaker 16: look past that and just listen to his basic three-pronged
• 28:53
  Speaker 16: pitch and of money out of politics, money in your pocket,
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: and then, of course, Medicare for All, which I think
• 28:58
  Speaker 16: can be problematic, but that's a part of it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: He has walked back from Medicare for All and then
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: walked into it again and walked back from it and
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: walked into it. He is a flip-flopper on that. But
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: he is welcome here any day, just so I can
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: repeat it for the benefit of those listening to the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: podcast later, including you, Mr. El-Sayed, Dr. El-Sayed. You're welcome
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: here as long as you want. Cut number 36 for
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: David Drucker.
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: No, because I don't want you guys to blow the
• 29:20
  Speaker 15: country up.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Do you know how much the federal budget is now?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: No, neither do I. Here's here's exactly the federal budget.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: You guys want to write P. Hexeth.
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: Do you know what the federal budget is?
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I just I just want to talk about this. Look,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about budgets. I'm happy to do that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: The guy who used to work on your channel, I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: think he was like the sixth host. on The Five,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: he wanted to raise our military budget to $ 1. 5 trillion,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: and you don't seem to be upset about that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: What?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: So we could fight a war we don't know how
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to get out of to raise our gas prices. Five
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: dollars a gallon. That doesn't make sense to me, Jesse.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about the things that we actually
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: spend on.
• 29:55
  Speaker 15: I have a feeling you don't even know how much
• 29:58
  Speaker 15: money the government spends every year.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Look, the question, Jesse, to me.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: So you don't know.
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: Let me tell you what it is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 15: It's seven trillion dollars a year.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And your helper heard him, David Drucker. I think it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a wash.
• 30:14
  Speaker 16: Look, there's really not a constituency for debt reduction. What
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: are we at? $ 40 trillion plus now. And Americans always
• 30:21
  Speaker 16: say that we need to balance our books responsibly and
• 30:26
  Speaker 16: reduce the debt and the debt. And then you say, well,
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: what if we had to do this to do it
• 30:30
  Speaker 16: or that to do it? And they're like, no, no, no, no, no,
• 30:32
  Speaker 16: not that. Make the other guy pay. And these days,
• 30:36
  Speaker 16: with so much lack of faith in government and institutions–
• 30:40
  Speaker 16: And I think we've seen this with the rise of
• 30:42
  Speaker 16: President Trump. When you don't know some statistic about the government,
• 30:46
  Speaker 16: people say, yeah, you know what?
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know it either.
• 30:48
  Speaker 16: And those bozos in Washington who know it don't seem
• 30:51
  Speaker 16: to get anything done right.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying that it makes for good public policy. Again,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I peppered Mr.
• 30:57
  Speaker 16: El-Sayed about how much Medicare for all was going to
• 31:00
  Speaker 16: cost individual consumers. And he wouldn't tell me any point
• 31:03
  Speaker 16: blank said he wouldn't tell me because he said it'll.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Be used against me.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: These questions should be asked.
• 31:08
  Speaker 16: I just I'm I'm sort of don't necessarily believe that
• 31:12
  Speaker 16: voters are going to get too exercised about it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: One more quick one, cut 38.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Actually, the internal combustion engine cars, so much more expensive.
• 31:21
  Speaker 15: You want to get rid of the internal combustion engines?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: No, I don't.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Who told you that?
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: That's what the Green New Deal says.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: No, that's not what.
• 31:31
  Speaker 9: The Green New Deal says.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It says that we can.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Build renewable energy opportunities. Look, I'm not going to defend
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the Green New Deal. What I'm telling you, though, is
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: that we can.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Does he lose anyone, David Drucker, when he says he's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: not going to defend the Green New Deal?
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: Because the only constituency he would lose would be far-left Democrats,
• 31:49
  Speaker 16: and he's giving them so much else, particularly his hostility
• 31:53
  Speaker 16: toward Israel, the fact that he wants to permanently cut U.S.,
• 32:00
  Speaker 16: both aid and the sales of weapons to Israel, that
• 32:03
  Speaker 16: he won't recognize the right to existence as a Jewish state,
• 32:05
  Speaker 16: so many other visceral things.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, he wants to repeal the Second Amendment. That's not
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: going to play in Michigan, I really don't think. David M. Drucker,
• 32:14
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  Speaker 1: Follow me in the next segment on today's Hugh Hewitt Show.
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  Speaker 1: Morning glory and evening grace, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. In
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  Speaker 1: election season, sometimes I do this, Some candidate, usually it's presidents,
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  Speaker 1: but occasionally it's a senator, draws my attention in such
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  Speaker 1: a way I just think, my gosh, we've got to
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  Speaker 1: tell people about these people. This year it's Abdul El-Sayed
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  Speaker 1: running for the United States Senate as a Democratic nominee
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan. He is easily the most radical major party
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  Speaker 1: candidate of my lifetime, so I'm spending, just making sure
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  Speaker 1: you hear it all. Let's start with cut number 34,
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  Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed on the stump about America and Israel creating terrorism.
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  Speaker 1: I think the.
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  Speaker 17: the approach that we've often taken to terrorism has been
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  Speaker 17: to figure out how.
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  Speaker 3: To leverage the might of the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Military to go in and root out certain terrorist organizations, etc.
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  Speaker 1: And where that's necessary, that's necessary.
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  Speaker 17: But I also think we need to be curious about
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  Speaker 17: why those things happen in the first place.
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  Speaker 3: What drives somebody to want to commit such a heinous act?
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  Speaker 17: I have to be a student of people's pain. That's
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  Speaker 17: what I did in medicine. That's what I try to
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  Speaker 17: do in politics. What happens when people are in pain?
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  Speaker 17: And I think that part of what we have to understand.
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  Speaker 6: Is that sometimes when we move, we create.
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  Speaker 17: So much collateral damage because too often we have been
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  Speaker 17: on the wrong side of our own policies.
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  Speaker 2: That's not ever to say that terrorism is okay because
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  Speaker 2: it's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: It's never okay.
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  Speaker 2: And you have to address it when it happens.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we have to make.
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  Speaker 2: Sure that when we say that there's a rules-based international order,
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  Speaker 2: that we are the principal follower of the rules, not
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  Speaker 2: just the principal enforcer of the rules.
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  Speaker 6: And I think too often, you know, one of the
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  Speaker 6: things that I do bring to this is my whole
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  Speaker 6: life I've been forced to explain who.
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  Speaker 2: I am to people.
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  Speaker 14: My whole life, right?
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  Speaker 6: Oftentimes even in my own family, right? Because I have experiences...
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  Speaker 6: that most people in my family don't have. I want
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  Speaker 6: you to think about that.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the time, if you grew up in a family,
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  Speaker 3: your experiences are.
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  Speaker 1: Very similar to your family's experiences.
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  Speaker 6: In my case, I was in a position where I
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  Speaker 6: would have to explain what's happening in America.
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  Speaker 1: To people who are flesh and blood of mine in Egypt.
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  Speaker 2: Or I'd have to explain what's happening in Egypt to
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  Speaker 2: people who are flesh and blood of mine in America.
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  Speaker 2: And oftentimes, I'm not them, but I have a small
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  Speaker 2: piece of their understanding because of what I.
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  Speaker 1: Have access to in the world.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the things I've often come to realize
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  Speaker 2: is that.
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  Speaker 3: When people feel some kind of way about what terrorism is,
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  Speaker 3: it's political.
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  Speaker 2: Violence, doing heinous things in pursuit of a political end, right?
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  Speaker 4: There is a level of.
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  Speaker 2: Pain and frustration and a level of lack of agency
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  Speaker 2: that they have to feel to do something so insane
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  Speaker 2: and absurd, right?
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  Speaker 3: And so I've often tried to ask, so what moves
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  Speaker 3: somebody into that?
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  Speaker 10: And how is it that.
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  Speaker 6: We're behaving that may get somebody to think that we
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  Speaker 6: don't see them.
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  Speaker 17: And that's creating the pain?
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea what that means, other than he's
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  Speaker 1: an apologist for terrorists, including Hamas. Let's go back to
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  Speaker 1: the Jesse Water interviews where he compares Sharia law to
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  Speaker 1: canon law, cut number 39.
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  Speaker 15: So getting rid of Sharia laws, white supremacy, can you
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  Speaker 15: explain that one?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what canon law is, Jesse? I assume
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  Speaker 2: you're a Christian, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so canon law is the name for Christian law.
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  Speaker 2: I don't begrudge you your right to practice your faith
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  Speaker 2: as you choose. I don't know why the idea that
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  Speaker 2: I could.
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  Speaker 3: Practice my faith as I choose is a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody is trying to push a real law.
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  Speaker 1: On anyone else. Let me stop and just make sure
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  Speaker 1: the audience isn't confused. Canon law is the Catholic Church law,
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  Speaker 1: the doctrine of law that applies to the Catholic Church.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Christian law. So he's just ignorant of that.
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  Speaker 1: I would just let people know. This guy does not
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  Speaker 1: know much. I know he went to medical school. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know much. He added this to Jesse Watters cut
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  Speaker 1: number 40.
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  Speaker 3: We're all good.
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  Speaker 9: You also said this.
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  Speaker 15: You want to replace the right to bear arms with
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  Speaker 15: the right to health care. You don't want to replace
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  Speaker 15: the Second Amendment, do you?
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, man, I think more people are more worried
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  Speaker 2: about whether or not they can see a doctor than
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: whether or not they can have a gun. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to put that out there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're dodging the question.
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  Speaker 15: Do you want to replace the Second Amendment?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that more people are more concerned about
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  Speaker 2: seeing a doctor. If we had a right to health
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  Speaker 2: care in this country, they probably wouldn't. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that'd be a pretty good thing, don't you?
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  Speaker 3: I think you dodged the question. And that's a pretty
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  Speaker 3: big one in Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't answer straightforward questions because he doesn't want people
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  Speaker 1: to hear it. They have just uncovered a treasure trove
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  Speaker 1: of his podcast during the woke era. around the time
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  Speaker 1: of COVID. We'll see what that produces. But here's a
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  Speaker 1: bus interview as he rides along with Hassan Piker, Cut 42.
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  Speaker 1: People play this game with us all the time, right?
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  Speaker 10: I'm sure you've gotten it somewhere.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 18: Well, here's this one thing that Hassan said. Do you
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  Speaker 18: now condemn him in everything he stands for? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 18: in what f * * * ing world does the
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  Speaker 18: world work this way? Like, in what world would you
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  Speaker 18: condemn somebody for something that they've said if you're serious
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  Speaker 18: about the project of actually persuading somebody?
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  Speaker 1: All right. He's trying to give himself an out for
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  Speaker 1: being filmed on a bus with a nightmare of an
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  Speaker 1: albatross around his neck and on his bus. Hassan Piker.
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  Speaker 1: Then he gets asked by C-SPAN a few weeks later
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  Speaker 1: about Hassan Piker. Cut 44.
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  Speaker 2: I am not interested in a conversation about a social
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  Speaker 2: media person in California. And for folks who want to
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  Speaker 2: make this race about a social media person in California,
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  Speaker 2: let's not forget what actually matters in our.
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  Speaker 3: Politics, what our politics really are about.
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  Speaker 2: I don't ever want my comments to hurt anybody's feelings.
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  Speaker 2: It's important to me that people understand. that I take
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  Speaker 2: seriously the pain of all communities in this state. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to have a conversation about a Twitch
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  Speaker 2: streamer in California.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a serious conversation. Let's go to the
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club with Charmaine the guy dodging the piker question again.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number 47.
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  Speaker 2: I think we gotta stop with the cancel culture. It's
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: not about like, where are you on this one individual?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: It's more, do you agree or disagree with the thing
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that the person said? And the thing about it is
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that like, when we play as if the whole person
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  Speaker 2: can be reduced down to a single sound bite that
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you took out of context, You're not dealing with real life.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how real life works. I love my wife dearly.
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  Speaker 3: Do I agree with her on everything?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Do I agree with everything I've always said?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: My opinions, positions change. So the point that I'm making is,
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  Speaker 2: it's not about distancing from an individual. It's about saying,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing I disagree with. And also, the attempt
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  Speaker 2: that they're using right now is to make this entire campaign,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Rogers, who I'm running against, has nothing.
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  Speaker 3: To say about anything.
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  Speaker 2: And so his whole thing is, let me tie these
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  Speaker 2: two people together, and then we'll try to to put
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  Speaker 2: push a cancel war against the one to cancel the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: other that's his let's.
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  Speaker 1: Just just say uh charlemagne the god brings it up
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  Speaker 1: so does stephen a smith cut number 52 these are
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  Speaker 1: not conservatives cut number 52.
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  Speaker 19: Last question on this particular subject in this because you
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  Speaker 19: know i was going to let you on this show
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  Speaker 19: and not ask you about assam piker i gotta ask
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  Speaker 19: you about him because that's a wild man right there
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  Speaker 19: You could, I mean, you've condemned the rhetoric suggesting American
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  Speaker 19: Jews could provoke violence against themselves, but you've resisted demands
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  Speaker 19: to repudiate Assange Pica personally, who obviously has been a
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  Speaker 19: supporter of yours. You've been seen with him on the campaign.
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  Speaker 19: I'm asking you this. Is there anything Assange Pica could
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  Speaker 19: say that would make you publicly disavow him, considering what
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  Speaker 19: he has said about the Jewish community?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sure, but the bigger question is this. How
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  Speaker 2: do we want to exchange ideas? And the big question
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  Speaker 2: that I often ask want us to be stepping back
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  Speaker 2: and asking is, what is democracy for? The idea that
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  Speaker 2: you just categorically disavow an individual, that to me doesn't
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  Speaker 2: make sense, given that there are going to be things
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  Speaker 2: that people say that you deeply disagree with.
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  Speaker 3: You should disavow those things.
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  Speaker 10: Even one that says that America brought 9-11 on itself?
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  Speaker 2: And then he disavowed it himself.
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  Speaker 3: Stephen A.
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  Speaker 2: Smith, that's not a consistent reading of what the man
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  Speaker 2: actually thinks.
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  Speaker 3: He specifically said that he was wrong about that himself.
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  Speaker 3: And look, I've been a student of Stephen A.
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  Speaker 2: Smith long enough to know that people have come after
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  Speaker 2: you and tried to cancel you for stuff that you said.
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  Speaker 2: So do you think people should disavow you for the worst,
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  Speaker 2: like the things that you might have said on the
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: air that didn't come out quite right or they clicked
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  Speaker 2: out of context?
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  Speaker 19: I would say to answer your question directly, I would
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  Speaker 19: say yes if I went that damn far because nobody
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  Speaker 19: could ever say I did something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Sir, they can't say that.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is there are 3 million people who
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  Speaker 2: listen to Hassan. And I want to offer them a
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  Speaker 2: pathway into an electoral movement where rather than sit outside
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  Speaker 2: of the electoral system, they see a pathway around the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: things that they agree with that he says that I
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  Speaker 2: agree with and a pathway that disavows the things that
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's important.
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  Speaker 1: So you're not thinking about him.
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  Speaker 10: You're not thinking about him.
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  Speaker 19: You're thinking about the 3 million people that support him
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  Speaker 19: and you're trying to get those votes.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you're saying?
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  Speaker 20: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And let me just be clear, like, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: been watching you for a very long time and I'm
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: glad to be on your show, but I'm not here
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: You know this. I'm here to talk to the people
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: you're talking to.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And and it's important to me that they hear my ideas.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: And it's important to me that they hear my ideas
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  Speaker 2: for my ideas. And there are going to be places
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  Speaker 2: where you and I disagree. There will be places where
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  Speaker 2: you and I fully agree.
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  Speaker 3: And that's OK. And it's important to me not to
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: just say, you know, politics, as they say, is a
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: game of addition.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to be able to be talking to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people in a lot of different ways.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same reason that last week I went on
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  Speaker 3: Jesse Walsh.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, it's tiresome. He just can't get away
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  Speaker 1: from a sandbiker. But let's get in cut 49 before
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  Speaker 1: the break.
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  Speaker 2: The point I make is I'm not a socialist. I've
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  Speaker 2: never called myself a socialist. People like to call me
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a socialist, right? People like to call me all kinds
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: of things. But I'm for small business. And I want
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: our tax dollars to be spent on infrastructure and small business.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: That's what I want.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And health care. I don't think it's just white people
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: who call him a socialist. I think it's black people.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's brown people. I think it's red people.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's green people to the extent that they
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: call themselves green people. They all call him a socialist
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: because he is a socialist and he is at least
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Islamist adjacent and an Islamist apologist. He's the most radical
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: major party candidate of my life. I got the receipts.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing as many as I can today thanks to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the apparently endless amount of clips out there. Generalissimo has
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: given me 79. I'm using as many as possible. Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Special edition of the program,
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  Speaker 1: the Abdul El-Sayed program. Cut number 48, Abdul El-Sayed on
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  Speaker 1: with Charlemagne Tha God talking about Egypt and pining for
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  Speaker 1: the days of the Muslim Brotherhood running Egypt. Cut number 48.
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  Speaker 21: As a Muslim man, you know what it feels like
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  Speaker 21: to have an entire community judging you through the actions
• 43:19
  Speaker 21: of some a few extremists right yeah do you have
• 43:22
  Speaker 21: a special responsibility to recognize when jewish americans feel that
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  Speaker 21: same collective judgment happening to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah i mean this is the thing is judaism the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: jewish people are not the same as israel and apac
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: they're not the same i wish more people would say
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: that yeah and i think it needs to be said
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and you know i always use the example of egypt
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: my family immigrated from egypt When I'm elected, I'm probably
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: going to be the loudest critic of the Egyptian government
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: in the whole U.S.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Senate.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And I would hate if somebody were to say, well,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: you're now accountable for what the government of Egypt did
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: because you happen to share the same ethnicity of the
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: people who live there. And so I think we have
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to take great care not to allow what are righteous
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: criticisms of the Israeli government to then cast upon Judaism
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: or the Jewish people anywhere. And holding that line is
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: really critical. And you asked me earlier about Hassan. That's
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: the point at which, when you look at the clip
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that was circulated, that's the point at which you're like, hey,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you have the right to your advocacy, even if it's
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: something I disagree with.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: And nobody should ever feel justified to do harm to you.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And whether it was intended to be said or that's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: how it came out is really important for us, whatever
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: platform we have, that we're constantly operating in that like
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: first do no harm principle that I learned in med school,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: which is you cannot put communities in harm's way.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: As they advocate or you advocate.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: You just advocate for the thing that you believe in
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and why and make the argument with the passion you
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: need to make it. But recognize that because you disagree
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: in an argument does not ever justify anybody doing physical harm.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: To the folks with whom you disagree.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. If anyone can make anything out of that other
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: than the fact that he wants Morsi and the Muslim
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Brotherhood back in charge of Egypt, I don't know what
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: it was. Here he is on 9-11. It isn't from 9-11.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: He's talking about 9-11 on WWJCBS in Detroit, cut number 50.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: We noticed that.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: There were some resurface posts on 9-11.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And I was wondering if it's making it challenging to
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: reach more Republican or more moderate voters in this race. Well,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think all of us look back and
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: say 9-11 was an awful thing that happened in this country.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: And I think all of us also.
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: Look back and say, think about all the wars that
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: were fought and how much safer do we feel like
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: they made us?
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: How many lives did they ruin?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And my point is just to say that what happened
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: on 9-11 is a disaster.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: It was a terrible attack on our country.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: And our responsibility is also to think about how do
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: we build an America where we are protecting our servicemen and.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Women from being.
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  Speaker 11: Asked to fight in wars we have no business fighting
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: that ultimately end up.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Doing harm to people. And we're seeing that right now.
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: If you look at the consequences of this war that
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: we have no business fighting, the billions of dollars that
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: are being spent to raise our gas prices, We're in
• 46:37
  Speaker 11: a quagmire we don't know how to get out of.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: And you'd think that after the disasters in Afghanistan and
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Iraq that we would have learned a lesson, but apparently not.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Afghanistan was a disaster because Joe Biden pulled out. Iraq
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: was not a disaster. It's a freer country than it
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: was under Saddam. And it has a future if Iran
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: is collapsed because they will no longer attempt to run
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the country and they'll have an actual democracy. that is
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: multi-ethnic and multi-faith. However, let's go to the Zoom call
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: in which he talks about emptying jails, cut 51.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Any and all efforts to get people out of jails
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: and prisons and to keep people out of jails.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And prisons is policy that we need to be investing in,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: particularly right now. But this doesn't end when the pandemic's over, right?
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't have to have a global pandemic to force
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: us to find our humanity.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: This should just be what we do because it's the
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: right thing to do.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Let's go to cut 53, where he's talking about he's
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: not going to cooperate on illegal immigration if he's a senator.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. He doesn't have like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a law enforcement authority or executive authority, but he says
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that anyway, cut 53.
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  Speaker 2: Under my leadership, our state will not expend a dime
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: of state taxpayer resources enforcing federal immigration policy that at
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: best is incoherent and at worst is heartless we will
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: not participate them with them uh through our state uh
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  Speaker 2: police we will not participate them with them uh through.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: This that's when he ran for governor and didn't win
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  Speaker 1: the democratic primary that's when he didn't dress in black
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  Speaker 1: t-shirts and uh lift weights that's when he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to appear present as normie and he gave up on
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  Speaker 1: that when he ran for senate Let's go down to
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  Speaker 1: cut number 56, what I am not again.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the number of times people debate whether I'm
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: a socialist or a capitalist, I'm not a socialist.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I'm a scientist.
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: I'm a doctor.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: But if I have one political philosophy, right, it's that
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I want us.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: To build what we would build if we took seriously
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the idea that that all of our kids were all
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: of our kids.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: If we started with that idea.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: So we're down to a word salad. May I simply add,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I'm a doctor too. I have a jurist doctorate. He
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: has a medical doctorate, but he is not licensed to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: be a physician. I hate this. I'm a doctor stuff
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and all, but it implies I'm a doctor too. You
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: got a degree that's a doctorate. That's fine. Unless you're
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: licensed and you've been an intern, which he hasn't done.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And he's on a residency, which he hasn't done. You
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: don't get to practice in America. Let's go to the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: C-SPAN round table, cut 58.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I just want to talk about the other ways that
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: they're coming for democracy.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: It's not just your ability to raise your voice. It's
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: the ability of the democracy to represent you in the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: first place. Like the idea of the electoral college, let's
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: be clear, it benefits here in Michigan. We get a
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: lot of attention because of electoral.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: College, but it's anti-democratic.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You think about gerrymandering and the way that we don't
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: have an objective approach to making sure that communities get
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: the representation they need because of packing and cracking the
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: fact that we have not passed comprehensive anti-gerrymandering legislation is
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: itself a problem and then I'll point to the filibuster
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: in the senate you know what the filibuster's principal use
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: was Segregation.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: It was used.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: All right. This guy's so ignorant of so many things.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: But what he just called there for was the repeal
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: of the Constitution, which is the DSA stuff. And the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: debate that was filibustered on the Civil Rights Act of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: 1964 was in 1964, which, if you check, was 62
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: years ago and is not even the same filibuster rule
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: as it was then. Let's go back to cut number
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  Speaker 1: 60 on the Ask Jen podcast. I am Eric.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: I'm also African.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And you can be both Arab and African, like anybody
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: from Morocco or Tunisia or Algeria or Libya or Egypt.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I just want to go into Libya. When we get
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the pseudo accent from people, Libya, I just think to myself,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: who are they fooling? They're not fooling. This is Michigan.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: He's running in Michigan. Now, I'm playing all these clips
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: on a national program heard all across the United States,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: shown on the Salem News Channel all across the United States.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: on any fast TV channel you want to go to,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: whether it's Roku or Pluto or Amazon, you can watch
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: these clips. I'm not editing them. Dwayne did not edit them.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: We've just got a lot more of them to go.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think we'll get through them all. Let me
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: get one more in cut number 71. Oh, we are
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: going to load that during the break. I promise I'll
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: get back to that because I've got to play Byron
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: York 73, 74, and 75 when he comes along. after
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the break as well, so we've got to at least
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: get through Cut 75. I'll be back with more on
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed Day. We continue to load clips as fast
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: as we can, but it's not fast enough in some cases.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Welcome back. I'm Hugh
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Hewitt on Abdul El-Sayed Day. I had to get it done.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I had to get it into the archive before the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: election voting gets started. Let's go. This is not old stuff.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: This next clip came from this month, September 15th, of 2026.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Cut number 78, when he's talking with a student at
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the University of Michigan about the 30,000 to 50,000 Iranians
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: massacred there in January by the regime. Cut number 78.
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  Speaker 7: Abdul, my name is Iman Dashti, and my question for
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: you is about Iran. Thank you. It says Michigan Persians.
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: But I do have a question, Abdul. My cousin.
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: My cousin was hunted in the streets of Iran by
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: the IRGC because her hijab wasn't on right. My uncle
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: was sentenced to die, received 50 lashings by Ali Khamenei's government.
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: And the terror that we've experienced is insurmountable. And you
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: can imagine our surprise as Persians. Our sadness when we
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: heard you, Abdul, a leaked audio tape of you saying
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: that you didn't want to comment on Supreme Leader Khamenei's
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: death and that people in Dearborn were sad when he died.
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: And I just have a simple question, Abdul. That silence
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: had a gaping hole in our community. And I want
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: to ask if you regret that silence. I want to
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: ask if you renounce the people that held vigils, that
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: supported this terrorist for all the stuff that he's done.
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: I wanted to ask if you stand unequivocally against the IRGC,
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: against the Islamic Republic of Iran that has killed 50,000 protesters, Abdul.
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: I haven't heard anything from you about the protesters, Abdul.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: I appreciate your question, and thank you. What I will
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: tell you is this.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: For too long and too often, when we think about
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: our role in the world, we have turned ourselves into
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the world's policemen. And I think what we all want,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: what we all need, is more democracy, more freedom in
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: the world, but also an understanding.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Of what we actually can and should do with respect
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: And here's my point. One can disagree with the governance
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: of a foreign country. One can stand in solidarity with
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: freedom and democracy movements. But my worry is when one
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: decides that we are going to go in and take
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: out the leadership of a foreign government.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Because here's what happens.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: A lot of times that frustration gets used to justify
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: corporate interests that have a real stake in democracy. the
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: natural resources in a particular country.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: See what I mean?
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: So when it comes down to it, I will always
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: stand for and with democratic movements. Always. But I also
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: don't believe that we were in the right to go
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to war to topple the government of Iran. It was
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: not our responsibility to do it. It is the responsibility
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: of the people of Iran to decide what their leadership
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: should look like. And so while I stand with freedom
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: and democratic movements, I also worry that once you start
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: putting our resources toward regime change in foreign countries, more
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: often than not, the regimes that we seek to change
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: are the ones in which there is a natural resource interest,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: and it becomes a ploy for the interests of our corporations.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: And that's what I worry about. Do you know what
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: You still haven't said it, though. We're dying. Do you
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: stand with us? I will always stand. Like I told you,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I will always stand. with movements for freedom and democracy.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: But again, I want to be careful, because how many
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: times were we taken down a path to war that
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: we could not get ourselves out of? Trillions of dollars
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: in losses, sanctions that ended up hurting the people of
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: those countries more than they ever hurt the leadership of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: those countries.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: You understand he can't condemn the IRGC. He says nothing
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: about the people, the tens of thousands of people murdered
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: by them in January before we began the campaign to
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: remove the government. He can't bring himself to say it.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: What can he talk about? Cut number 69.
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: Hi, my name's Allison. My youngest is a 17-year-old non-binary.
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: They came out back when they were in fifth grade.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: The way the current administration has their finger on the
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: health care for anyone in the LGBTQs, more specifically the
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: transgender individuals, actually are having a lot of trouble here
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: in Michigan right now just to get hormones. Even the
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: University of Michigan a year ago stopped providing anyone under
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: the age of 19 with hormones within their own facilities.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: Our state constitution allows them to have access to that
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: sort of thing. How can we go forward and help
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: fix this?
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I appreciate your question, and I understand your fear.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, health care is a,
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: that part, is a human right. But also health care
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: decisions aren't things that the government.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Should be able to make for you. So he's in
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: favor of medical care for minors who are transitioning, but
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: he won't say he condemns the IRGC. This is a
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: radical man. More coming up with Byron York State. Welcome back, America.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined now by Byron York, senior political
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: correspondent for The Washington Examiner, Fox News contributor. Byron, welcome
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to Abdul El-Sayed Day here on The Hugh Hewitt Show.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just playing audio and getting comments. It's your turn
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: to help me out. Cut number 55 from the RNC
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: of Abdul El-Sayed.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: 9-11 scarred our country in profound ways. But what we
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: did after 9-11 scarred millions of other people.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: All right, Byron, what do you think of that?
• 57:38
  Speaker 22: Well, first of all, I just want to say that
• 57:40
  Speaker 22: I'm honored to appear on Abdul El-Sayed Day. And, you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 22: when I woke up this morning, I had no idea
• 57:47
  Speaker 22: that this honor was awaiting me today, which is one
• 57:50
  Speaker 22: of the great things about life. You just never know. Look,
• 57:55
  Speaker 22: the idea of equalizing what was done on 9-11 by al-Qaeda,
• 58:03
  Speaker 22: And what was done afterwards by the United States and
• 58:06
  Speaker 22: other Western powers is just absolutely offensive. Now, you can have,
• 58:13
  Speaker 22: as I do, a lot of questions about the way we,
• 58:19
  Speaker 22: the United States, went about retaliating for 9-11. Of course,
• 58:26
  Speaker 22: some of the objections might be that we weren't tough enough.
• 58:30
  Speaker 22: But But the idea of equating these two things is
• 58:34
  Speaker 22: absolutely outrageous.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, cut 59 on reparations for Byron York.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I've thought a lot about the challenges. I have read
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: my history. When it comes to black communities in Michigan.
• 58:47
  Speaker 20: When it comes to black communities in America, there are
• 58:50
  Speaker 20: unpaid debts that have long since come due that we
• 58:54
  Speaker 20: are unwilling to acknowledge, let alone pay down.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: And the I understand that we need leaders who are
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: going to understand those debts and address them. But the
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: question for me is, within my power, have I... done
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: my best? And I would challenge people to look at
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: my history and say, yeah, that man hasn't done everything
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: he could around the problems he says he cares about.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: All right, Byron, reparations. What do you think?
• 59:21
  Speaker 22: Well, if you're talking about reparations for slavery, and there's
• 59:24
  Speaker 22: been no sort of payment for that, there was a
• 59:27
  Speaker 22: really big war And between 500 and 750,000, those numbers
• 59:31
  Speaker 22: off the top of my head, I think they're right,
• 59:35
  Speaker 22: people died in the Civil War to resolve this political
• 59:41
  Speaker 22: impasse that could not be resolved peacefully. So I just
• 59:44
  Speaker 22: think that's ridiculous. And also, there's no political consensus today
• 59:51
  Speaker 22: for some sort of payment, some sort of reparations payment,
• 59:55
  Speaker 22: much less a way of figuring out who gets it
• 59:58
  Speaker 22: and who doesn't get it. So it's, you know, it's
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 22: a talking point in some progressive circles, but nothing else,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 22: nothing more.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go then to cut number 64 on
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: his contributions from CARE.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 14: Rogers has said that it's time for you to return
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 14: money that you may have gotten from organizations like CARE,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 14: citing what he calls a dubious cloud over that. Is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 14: that something that you're thinking about doing, would be willing
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 14: to do?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: And what do you have to say about that?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: You know, that civil rights organization exists because people like
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Mike Rogers want to make this race about the color
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: of my skin or how I pray.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: What do you think of that response to a request?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 22: Well, obviously, everybody's concerned. Well, not everybody's concerned. Mike Rogers
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 22: is concerned. Many other people are concerned about terrorism and
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 22: the advocacy of terrorism and people who are terrorist-adjacent promoting terrorism. So,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 22: I mean, that's what that's about. And, of course, the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 22: quick and easy way to try to deflect it is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 22: to say you're trying to make this about the color
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 22: of my skin, therefore you are a racist, and whatever
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 22: you say is invalid.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I agree. Let's go to then same Fox to Detroit
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: on the same interview about Hassan Piker cut 66. Let
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: me just answer your question directly.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I will take every statement on its own terms. There
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: are many, many things that he has said that I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: disagree with, that I have disavowed, whether it was his
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: ridiculous comments about 9-11 or his more recent comments about
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Jewish Americans. I just think it's important for us to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: stop playing this game wherein you take a whole individual
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: and pretend like they are the worst thing they've ever said.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I remember back in 2020 where we talked about how
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: caustic that cancel culture was. In fact, it was Republicans themselves,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: the very same people who want to make this race,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: about a streamer in California who said exactly that. But
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: we have to believe in our democratic process. We have
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: to believe that we can talk about individual things that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: people have said on their own terms.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: All right, so has he distanced himself from his running
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: mate in the primary, Ahsan Piker?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 22: That streamer in California? I can't even remember the guy's name.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 22: You know, actually, I was listening to Abdul El-Sayed about
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 22: half an hour ago. I've been listening to your show.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 22: And he's asked one time about these outrageous statements. And
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 22: he said, you know, listen, the really big question we
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 22: ought to be talking about now is how do we
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 22: want to exchange ideas? He's trying to divert, distract at
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 22: every moment because– You know, the picture of him and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 22: Hassan Piker at the pool party the day before the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 22: Democratic primary in Michigan, and their connections go way back.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 22: And he's not going to disavow Hassan Piker. He's not
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 22: going to. And believe me, if he is elected Senate
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 22: to the United States Senate, Hassan Piker is going to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 22: have a colleague, a close connection in the United States Senate.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Amen. I hadn't thought about that, but you're right. Okay,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: two more. Cut number 73 about Kamala Harris. Here's Abdul El-Sayed.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Well, look, I'll tell you this.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: My disagreements with the then-vice president's positions on Gaza are clear,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: and I still disagree with the position on which she
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: ran in 2024. I have been absolutely clear about my
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: commitment to peace, dignity, and self-determination for all people.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: So then Kamala Harris came and campaigned with him. Can
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: you have it both ways, Byron?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 22: Well, Kamala Harris, I think, realized she needed a retool
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 22: if she were going to keep her options open for 2028. Listen,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 22: I don't think she has any options for 2028. She's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 22: not going to be the nominee. And if she is,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 22: you could knock me over with a feather because the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 22: Democratic Party does not want re-nominate its losing nominees. They
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 22: just don't do it. The last time they did it
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 22: was 1956 with Adlai Stevenson. It didn't work. Before that,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 22: you have to go back to William Jennings Bryant. They
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 22: don't do it.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: One last one. I'll get it in quick. Cut number 75. Okay, Byron.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Cars are the modern-day cigarettes in Michigan.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 22: Well, you've got to admire that, I think. You go
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 22: to West Virginia and say, we don't like coal. You
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 22: go to Iowa and you say, we're going to get
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 22: rid of corn right tomorrow.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow, cars or cigarettes. Byron York, follow him on exit,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Byron York. Stay with me. Cotton Eddie is going to
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: pick up the task next hour on Abdul El-Sayed Day
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  Speaker 1: Morning glory, evening grace, America. Welcome to Hour 3 of
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  Speaker 1: the program. The one and only Matt Continetti joins me. Matt,
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  Speaker 1: at the Wall Street Journal. The head of domestic policy
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  Speaker 1: on the Hugh Hewitt Show like he is on the
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  Speaker 1: Commentary Podcast. Matt Conaty, welcome. It's Abdul El-Sayed Day on
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  Speaker 1: the Hugh Hewitt Show, so you've come on a propitious day.
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  Speaker 1: Let me begin with just the general question. What do
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: you make of Abdul El-Sayed, and do you believe the
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  Speaker 1: polls that he's ahead?
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  Speaker 13: Well, the polls, Hugh, are showing that he's slightly ahead. And,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 13: you know, I take the polls at their word. They're
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 13: finding these things. Whether they're right is a whole other story,
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  Speaker 13: because so much depends on who turns out.
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  Speaker 10: On election day.
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  Speaker 13: What do I make of Abdul El-Sayed? Well, I think
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 13: he's a radical. I think he's a very glib politician.
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  Speaker 13: I think he has a huge chip on his shoulder.
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  Speaker 13: I think he overly resorts to violent metaphors when he's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 13: especially trying to pick fights with other male political figures.
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  Speaker 10: And I think he's a radical.
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  Speaker 13: I think he supports Medicare for All, which would eliminate
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 13: private health insurance, kick everybody off their government health plans.
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  Speaker 10: I think even though he says he's no socialist.
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  Speaker 13: every position he has aligns with the Democratic Socialists of America.
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  Speaker 13: And I'd be very worried if he were elected to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 13: the United States Senate.
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  Speaker 1: So Matt Continetti, I can't read his mind, but I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: believe he is Islamist adjacent, an Islamist apologist. Do you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: think he's an Islamist?
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  Speaker 10: Well, he's not an overt Islamist.
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  Speaker 13: You know, he clearly has affiliations with people who are
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 13: Islamists and people who are radicals in their view of
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  Speaker 13: the application of Muslim doctrines to society.
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  Speaker 10: He's tried to distance himself from them.
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  Speaker 13: But let's not forget, when he was running that primary,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 13: you know, he was appearing alongside Hassan Piker. He's lied
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 13: about that. He's calling Hassan Piker just some streamer in California.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 13: We know that they're very close, and if anything, Piker
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 13: got him that nomination. Piker's an anti-American, anti-Semite. Many of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 13: the people from the Dearborn community, they're radical Islamists. There's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 13: no question about it, and that's part of his base.
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  Speaker 13: So if not overt, I worry about some of the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 13: relationships he'd be bringing to the United States Capitol if
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 13: he's elected.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here's some of my favorite hits, the greatest
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: hits of Abdul El-Sayed. Cut number one, this is where
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  Speaker 1: he's talking after the strike that opened up Operation Epic
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  Speaker 1: Fury that killed Ayatollah Khamenei. Cut number one.
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  Speaker 2: I also want to remind you guys that there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people in Dearborn.
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  Speaker 3: Who are sad today.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, I just don't want to comment on Khomeini
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I don't think it's worth.
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  Speaker 2: Even touching that.
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  Speaker 3: Like, they're going to try.
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  Speaker 2: This is what we practice, but, like, isn't Khomeini a
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  Speaker 2: bad guy?
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it great that he's dead?
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  Speaker 1: My first man was 86 years old.
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  Speaker 2: He was going to be dead sometime soon anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So, Matt, reaction to that?
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  Speaker 10: Well, just ridiculous. In a way, you know.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 13: It meets the Kinsley definition of a gaffe when a
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 13: politician tells the truth, because I think he was telling
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 13: the truth about some of the people in the room
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: or some of the people that he believes will be
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 13: voting for him in November, that they were sad when
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 13: Khamenei died. And that just shows you, do you really
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 13: want that type of politician who feels like he has
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 13: to make that outreach to elements of his base?
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  Speaker 10: You had a United States senator. I know my answer.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: All right. Cut number two. This is Abdul El-Sayed on
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  Speaker 1: CNN with Adi Cornish. No answer about this embrace of him.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think people are making too much or too
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: little about this? Look, you know, it's a pretty crazy.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: So Hassan Piker was invited to stream from the DNC
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: in 2024. We had a whole debate about whether or
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: not the vice president should have gone on Rogan. The
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: idea that we're going to tie people together and say, well,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: guilt by association. So it's just not in keeping with
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: the way most of us think about the world. I'm
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: sitting on a panel with a very diverse group of people.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Did I vet all of you before I came and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: sat here because one of you might have said something
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with?
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's a ridiculous way to think about politics.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you're running for office, which is why you're in
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: the hot seat.
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy to be in the hot seat, but let
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: me just speak to that. This is why you're being vetted.
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  Speaker 1: Let's dwell on this a bit, Matt. I invite all
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: sorts of people onto this program. Some people I clearly
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: have an affinity with, like you. You're a frequent guest.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: You are always welcome on the program. I talk about
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: the columns you write in the journal. And then I'll
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: have on... Ro Khanna, with whom I argue about everything,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: and it's clear I don't have anything to do with him,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: and I would never campaign with him. Isn't this the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: most disingenuous part? Oh, you know, you campaign with a
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: lot of people, it doesn't mean anything, because he was
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: with him the night before the election.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, and I'm not even on Twitch, so you don't
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 13: know my live streaming. You still have me out of
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 13: the program. But I think you got at it, Hugh.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, it's the disingenuous that kind of just emanates
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: from Abdul Al-Sayed.
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  Speaker 1: He just.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: reeks phony to me.
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  Speaker 13: And I think that comes across to a lot of
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 13: voters as well.
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  Speaker 10: They don't quite know what to make of him.
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  Speaker 13: Let's not forget, you know, Republican hasn't been elected to
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 13: the Senate from Michigan since 1994. And so this is
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 13: a blue state. And yet El-Sayed's in a toss-up election
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 13: against Mike Rogers. And it's precisely because I think a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 13: lot of Michiganders are just worried about him.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 10: They don't know what to think about him. They think
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 10: he's too clever by half. And they think he brings
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 10: a lot of baggage in terms of radicalism, in terms
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 10: of the associations, that they're willing to look at Mike
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 10: Rogers presenting an alternative.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe people when they tell you who they are.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Here is Abdul El-Sayed with Jacob Soboroff over on MSNOW,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: cut number three.
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  Speaker 9: And you just picked up this endorsement from, as I mentioned,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 9: Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. It's her first time in this primary
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: cycle weighing in to a contested Senate election. What's your
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 9: hope that her endorsement will do for you?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Well, this is somebody who's been leading at the forefront
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: of the fight to get money out of politics, put
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: money in your pocket and pass the Medicare for all.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: That is what I'm running to do here in Michigan.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: So he's going to be like AOC, Matt. We should
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: believe him, right?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 13: And in fact, you know, Medicare for all, this government-run
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 13: health insurance program, which would– force mission leaders off their
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 13: health insurance, force everybody off their health insurance in favor
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 13: of a one-size-fits-all government policy.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 10: That is, if anything, the through line in Abdul Al-Sayed's
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 10: political career.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 13: He has been a passionate advocate of this terrible program, which,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 13: by the way, would raise taxes enormously if you want
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 13: to pay for it. And there's also the AOC angle.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 13: You know, he's accepting AOC's endorsement. She certainly has a
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 13: passionate fan base, but let's not forget, Hugh, she's unpopular.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 13: Mamdani is unpopular. Socialism is unpopular with most Americans. And
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 13: so that's, I think, what Mike Rogers is trying to
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 13: get across as he wages his campaign.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: All right. Now we go to Stephanie Rule talking to
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed on MS Now. Cut number four.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: For me, rather than focus on this or play to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: this left-right debate, I'm a lot more interested in having
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: listened to people, which I've done now for more than
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: a year across 110 different cities, 450 public events now,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: and make sure that we are answering the questions they're
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: asking every day at their dinner table.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: How do I afford my groceries?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: How do I pay my rent?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: How do I ever afford a home?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: How can I make sure I can see a doctor?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: Do you think your race is a defining moment for
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 8: the party and what it believes?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: I think it absolutely is, because if the kind of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: politics that can be about unlocking our political system for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: everyday people can win in Michigan, it's going to send
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: shockwaves to the party. Everybody who's planning to run for
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: president in 2028 is going to have to pay attention
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: to this race.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: All right. I think he's right, Matt. If Abdul El-Sayed wins,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party goes over the left cliff. It's already
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: teetering on the edge of that, may have gone over
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: full Thelma Louise. But if he wins, they are off
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: the map of American politics. Agree or disagree?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 10: Oh, I agree, Hugh, and I'll do you one better.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 13: I think if Abdu'l-Sayed wins in November, he's immediately going
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 13: to begin running for president in 2028. I think that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 13: because the Democratic field is so open, I think that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 13: he's going to use whatever momentum he has from this
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 13: election to just dive right into a presidential campaign. I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 13: think he's on that big of an ego trip. And
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 13: so this is why the stakes in Michigan are so high.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 10: I think it's the race of the cycle.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 13: And Democrats, you're right, are already taking all the wrong
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 13: lessons from these polls, showing them doing very well. They're,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 13: of course, forgetting all the recent cycles in which the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 13: polls have underestimated conservative and Republican presence in the electorate.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 13: But they're already measuring the curtains on Capitol Hill, both
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 13: the House and the Senate.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: They're looking at places like Mississippi. to get involved. I mean,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 10: it's delusional at some level.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 13: And El-Sayed is going to take all of that, and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 13: I think pocket it and say that he was the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 13: standard bearer of the Democratic Party in 2026 if he
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 13: comes out with a win.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Sidebar question, and we'll come back in the second segment
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: with more Abdul El-Sayed. Do you think the Democratic primary debates,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: whenever they begin, the campaign will begin as soon as
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the balloting is closed and the results are in on
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: November 3rd, but Do you think their debates will actually
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: winnow the field to the center, or are they going
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: to winnow the field to the left?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 10: Well, it's a great question, Hugh. I really don't know.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 10: All the energy is on the left.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 13: The debates can be effective in pushing the party in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 13: a certain direction. And actually, you might have a distinctive
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 13: profile if you are not far left on those debate stages.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 13: It might be someone like a Cory Booker who He's
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 13: left as they come, but he's not a DSA person
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 13: or DSA adjacent. He might actually stand out from an
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 13: overwhelmingly radical crowd once the debates begin.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back with Matt Continetti on Abdul El-Sayed Day.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, America. I also have to ask Matt
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: whether or not, as I have asserted repeatedly today, the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: United States has won the Battle of Hormuz, because I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: think we have, and I think the evidence is overwhelming
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: that we have, even if you aren't seeing it and
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: hearing about it a lot. Stay tuned to The Hugh
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Hewitt Show. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. I took
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: an MRI earlier today on my shoulder, Matt Continetti, and
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: they were playing this music. Can you bring up that music, Adam?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard this? I asked for 70s rock.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard this, Matt Continetti?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 13: I can't say I have, Hugh, but as we established
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 13: last week, I'm a cultural ignoramus.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that is a band called Head East, and the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: song has never been any reason. I've never heard it
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: in my life, and so I'm in this MRI mad
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: because it's the loudest thing you've ever heard, right? I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever had one, but it's clickety-clack,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: don't talk back at about 1,000 decibels. Matt, do you
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: think we've won the Battle of Hormuz, we being the
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: United States?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I think we've won the Battle of Hormuz. We
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 13: have reestablished the flow of oil through the Strait of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 13: Hormuz well enough blockading Iranian oil and really exercising a
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 13: vice grip on the Iranian economy. And I think that's
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 13: a victory. Now, is that victory in the conflict with Iran?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 13: Not entirely, but it's an important part of that victory
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 13: as we pursue it. And I'd say another thing, Hugh.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 13: We allowed the Iranian political leadership into the country last
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 13: week to attend the UN. And in listening to the
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 13: interviews of the Iranian president and the Iranian foreign minister,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 13: I got one takeaway, and that.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 10: Is they are desperate for cash. They need money.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 13: And I think that's why they floated a return to
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 13: the Memorandum of Understanding, a flawed document from the very
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 13: beginning that lasted a few weeks last summer. And it's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 13: why I think they want to continue some type of
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 13: negotiation as soon as possible, because they are running out
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 13: of cash fast.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Oil dropped below $ 90 a barrel today. On Sunday, after
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: President Trump dismissed the idea of negotiations, it went up
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: into $ 100. Now it's dropped by 10%. And I think
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: it's going to continue down after the publication of an
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: article by Alexander Stahel, a Swiss energy consultant that he
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: put out on early Monday morning in Switzerland, the definitive
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: demonstration that the Strait of Hormuz is free and clear
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: about for our allies to get their oil out via
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: these very large cargo container ships that are just full
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: to the brim with oil. And they're not getting anything in.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: You just mentioned they're bankrupt. I think Scott Besson said
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: over the weekend, the Secretary of the Treasury, that they're
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: down to 15 million barrels of hot oil to sell
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: to the teapot industry in China and India. Ben, they're
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: absolutely out of income. Zero.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 7: Zero.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 13: And, you know, we've already begun to see some reports
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 13: on social media about unrest in Iran. Some of that
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 13: is from ethnic minorities. I saw one report over the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 13: weekend of a student demonstration. I don't think it's for
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 13: too long before we see Iranians take to the streets
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 13: once again. This is a persistent pattern over the last
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 13: 12 years and longer in Iranian politics. The people will
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 13: come to the streets. And so the question is, what
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  Speaker 13: will the United States do then? I hope the administration,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 13: in secret, they don't have to publicize it, is formulating
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 13: a plan to help the Iranian people once they come
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 13: out into the streets and to think about what would
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 13: come after the IRGC terrorist government falls.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, you remind me. I don't have a producer,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: but there's this fellow, Dwayne Patterson, who comes in every
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: day and writes for Hot Air on my time. And
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: he wrote this piece with all this stuff about the Houthis.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know where he found this stuff. He never
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: gives it to me. But you retweeted it. Had you
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: seen this stuff about the fact that the Saudis are
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: waxing the Houthis whenever they show up?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 13: Well, I think you're mentioning my favorite foreign policy writer,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 13: Dwayne Patterson. And I hadn't seen a lot of the
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 13: facts that Dwayne had assembled in his piece, which is
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 13: one reason why.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 10: I brought it up.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 13: You know, it's interesting, Hugh, what looked like a turn
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 13: for the worse with the Houthis entering the war in
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 13: recent weeks is may actually be a moment of opportunity
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 13: where we can reconnect the Saudis and the Emiratis, two
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 13: linchpins of our alliance system in the Middle East, get
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 13: them back together to fight the Houthis. When we can
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 13: connect that duo, Saudi and UAE, with Israel, our closest
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 13: ally in the world, and how Israel helped them fight
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 13: the Houthis in a way that only Israel can. Now
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 13: we know that we're sending the oil supply through the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 13: Strait of Hormuz at volumes approaching pre-war levels. And as
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 13: long as we keep the economic pressure campaign up by
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 13: not relaxing that blockade, the internal contradictions of the Iranian
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 13: regime are going to continue to mount. And so this,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 13: it just shows you how quickly the perception of a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 13: conflict can change. You go from one week where it's like,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 13: oh gosh, the Houthis are involved now, what's going to happen?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 13: To looking at the data and seeing actually Time is
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 13: on America's side here.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: And boy, the price of oil, if it drops precipitously,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people who bet on the other
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: way are going to get wiped out on the market.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: All right, back to my Abdul El-Sayed special, Matt Connetti.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Cuts number five and six back to back. These are
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: two cuts of Abdul El-Sayed talking about the police. Five
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: and six, please.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to talk about it as refunding, right?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: I want to refund on the taxpayer dollars that I
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: pay to police who use that to buy war materiel,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: to wage.
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  Speaker 3: War in our streets.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to refund public health and public libraries
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: and public schools and the means of uprooting poverty. And
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: that is the work that I tried to do when
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: I was at the city of Detroit. and that there
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: are many, many public servants who are committed to doing.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that we do need to defund the police
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: insofar as defunding the police is disinvesting in the means
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: of incarcerating someone or killing them on the streets and
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: investing more in the means of educating and empowering engaging communities.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Continetti, that's not merely radical, that's nuts. Do you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: think it gets widespread attention in Michigan? It better.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: I mean, I do believe in defund the police. It's
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 10: right there in the radio interview.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 13: It should be on every anti-ELSA ad between now and
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 13: Election Day. I mean, look, how does that sound to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 13: the families in Michigan cities like Detroit who have been
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 13: victims of violent crime? The defund the police idea is
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 13: a total political loser.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
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  Speaker 10: And where it was tried.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 13: it resulted in more violent crime, more deaths and destruction.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 13: And the communities that didn't try it have a common
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 13: sense that you don't want to take resources away from
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 13: the men and women who maintain law and order in
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 13: our communities.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 10: So this just shows you how vulnerable Al-Sayed is, Hugh.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 13: He has this litany of radical statements that I think
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 13: is a major reason why voters are leery of him,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 13: including minority voters.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: I've got 36 cuts.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 13: Educated radical, some Rhodes Scholar radical to be their next senator.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: 36 cuts of this. Let me play you the most
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: cringe-inducing one, cut number nine.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: You think about if you're on Instagram, my team has
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: access to my Instagram account, and the things that I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: actually look at on Instagram, of course we get served
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: that on your For You page, but then every third
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: video that scrolls on its own is going to be
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: some OnlyFans model.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: All right, Matt Continetti, is every third video on your
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: feed OnlyFans? Because it's not on mine.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 10: No, it's not OnlyFans.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 13: No, that was, again, that might have been a Kinsley
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 13: gaffe on the part of El-Sayed there. That was a
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 13: little uncomfortable moment as he's there kind of getting ready
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 13: to bench press. Like I said, I think he's the
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 13: candidate with some real vulnerabilities, Hugh, and we spent a
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 13: good deal analyzing them.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: I hope Mike Rogers does the same.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Matt Contenetti, I'll see if we have enough time to
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: talk to you when we come back because I still
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: got 30 different cuts of El Sayed on Abdu El
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  Speaker 1: Sayed Day. Don't go anywhere, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Welcome back, America.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: El Sayed Day. Or at least I'm wrapping it up now.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going to play some stuff from Fox after the break.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Matt Contenetti is still with me. Follow Matt at Contenetti
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: on X. Read him in the Wall Street Journal. Listen
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: to him every Thursday at on the commentary podcast. Matt,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: this is one of the more famous Abdul Sayyed recent appearances.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Cut number 11.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, as bitter and as divisive and as
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: cynical as the campaign against us might have been, I
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: want us to realize that there is so much more
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: that unites us now. Because the campaign that Mike Rogers
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: and Donald Trump and their GOP MAGA allies are launching,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: is already more bitter.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: All you've got to do is look at the ads.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: You're already watching on TV.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 10: It started today.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they think they want to use my whole
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: name against me. Mike, listen, man, if you can't say
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: the name, it's Abdurrahman. Keep the name out your damn mouth.
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  Speaker 1: So, Matt, he is angry in a lot of appearances,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't make any effort to hide it. Is
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: that winsome to the undecided voter?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 13: I think it's the opposite of winsome, Hugh. You know,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 13: I was struck in that clip that he seemed to
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 13: be doing a Barack Obama impression in his kind of
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 13: cadences and.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 10: In his style of speaking.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 13: And I think that's a testament to his ego. I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 13: think he kind of, Al-Sayed sees himself as the next Obama.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 13: And that's another reason why he's such a troublesome candidate.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: My very last clip for you, because I then want
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: to finish by talking about Medicare for all. Cut number 12.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: He's talking with Jacob Soboroff again about private health insurance.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number 12.
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  Speaker 9: People's private insurance and socialized medicine is what they always say.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 9: You're going to say what to him on that debate stage?
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: Do you know what's taking away from people's private insurance?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: The fact that they can't afford it. The fact that
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: the deductibles, the premiums have gotten way too high because
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: of people like Mike Rogers, who take checks from the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: private insurance industry and then fail to regulate them. So
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: they keep upping the prices on people, putting people into bankruptcy.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: We owe $ 225 billion.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 10: In medical debt.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: I want to know what Mike Rogers wants to do
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: about that. I want to abolish it, and I want
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: to make sure that every single person in this country
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: has the health care that they need and deserve.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 9: But will you be saying on that debate stage people
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 9: can keep their private insurance if they want it?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I'm not against abolishing private insurance. I'm
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: for guaranteeing you public insurance so that you never have
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: to worry about what happens if you turn 26 or
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: get a job or lose a job or turn 65
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: or get married.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Or get divorced.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: All the ways that Mike Rogers is OK.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: With you losing your health care in our current health
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: care system.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 9: It looks like today everybody seems to be coming together. But,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 9: you know, but I talked to some of your voters yesterday.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: OK, Matt, I he said Medicare for all repeatedly until
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: the unions told him stop saying Medicare for all. There
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: he said both things abolished, not abolished. What do you
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: think is his position and what do you think Michigan
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: voters think is his position?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 13: Well, I'm not sure about his position after listening to
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 13: that clip, Hugh, because it seemed very vague and contradictory.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: And you're absolutely right.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 13: The unions don't like Medicare for All because it would
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 13: cancel out all the sweetheart deals that they've made in
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 13: terms of health insurance benefits over the years. And that's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 13: a vulnerability in a place like Michigan, which has such
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 13: a long history of union membership and participation.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 10: What do voters think?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 13: I think voters think Medicare for All, once you present
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 13: them with the costs, are... I'm very much against it.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 13: And Medicare for All has been a political loser in
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 13: the past. Kamala Harris ran on Medicare for All in 2020.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: She didn't even.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 13: Make it to Iowa with that pledge. So I've been
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 13: a little bit befuddled why it's made a comeback on
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 13: the trail in 2026. And I think it's a combination, one,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 13: of radical candidates like El-Sayed, and two, a media that
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 13: is entirely disinterested in doing anything other than cheerleading for
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 13: Democrats in this election.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: I think you're right about that last point, because if
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: they actually dug into the Medicare for All, it repels
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: me as an actual client of Medicare. Having paid all
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: those years and still paying a premium on the Medicare
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: that's as high as it can go, I think Medicare
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: for All will destroy the system that was set up
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: for people 65 and older, absolutely destroy. It's already tough
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: to find a doctor who wants Medicare. Do you think
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: that that Democrats have focus group tested what old people
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: think about Medicare for all because I don't think we
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 13: Well, I think there are a lot of establishment Democrats
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 13: who are leery of Medicare for all and who want
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 13: to go about other ways of promising benefits to Americans
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 13: that aren't maybe as scary to voters once they learn
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 13: of the costs. But I've also been struck, Hugh, that
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 13: Democrats aren't really campaigning on an agenda this year to
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 13: the extent that you get them to say what they're for,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 13: you know, their number one priority is restoring the Obamacare benefits,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 13: the Obamacare subsidies that went away earlier this year as
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 13: part of our Republican Congress. And that's a plan that,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 13: you know, just isn't going to make anything more affordable
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 13: because once we know that when the government starts spending money,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 13: prices go up, not down.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: It's also micro-targeting carried to an extreme level. It's micro, micro,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: micro targeting. Matt Continetti, thank you. Follow Matt on X
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  Speaker 1: at Continetti because he follows Dwayne. That's a good thing,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: I think. And read him in the Wall Street Journal.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Listen to him in the Commentary Thursday podcast. Hopefully we'll
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: see him on Friday here on the Hugh Hewitt Show.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. I'll be right back. I was on
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Fox earlier today. I'll tell you about it. Welcome back, America.
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  Speaker 1: I think you'll find they're fabulous. Earlier today, I was
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: on America Reports talking about AOC, and it began a
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: funny way of talking about Cornell. Now, you Cornell people,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: give a listen to this clip with John Roberts.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 23: Hugh Hewitt is the host of the Hugh Hewitt Show
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 23: and a Fox News contributor. I mean, said another way,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 23: it's wipe Israel off the map, Hugh.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: In fact, that's quite the ad for Cornell, John. Good
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: afternoon to you. I think every administrator at Cornell is
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: grabbing their head and saying, oh, no, that's not representative,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: because river to the sea does mean the extirpation of
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: the Jewish state. It's actually a call for ethnic cleansing
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: and genocide, and therefore quite the warm-up act for AOC,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: not one I bet that she wanted. All right.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 23: So that's just a little bit of a side note
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 23: to her appearance there. What we really want to get
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 23: out here, the meat and potatoes of it, is that
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 23: she was very popular as a campaigner during the Democratic primaries.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 23: But as we head in with 40 days left, less
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 23: than that, to the general election on the 3rd. Her
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 23: popularity has waned somewhat. Here's what Axios said. She was
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 23: welcomed by many Democrats in competitive primary races, but some
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 23: of those candidates have distanced themselves as they've moved to
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 23: the center to take on Republicans in the November 3rd election.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 23: It would appear that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is too left for
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 23: a lot of Democrats.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: I think she is, John. I think she's going to
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: be wonderful in the Democratic primaries in 2028. I think
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: she's going to run for president. But right now, when
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: you want the independent centrist voter and you're running against,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: for example, Susan Collins in Maine. Troy Jackson doesn't want
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: her to show up and tell Maine that he's like
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: her and therefore they'll all vote for Susan Collins. Abdul
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: El-Sayed does not want her in Michigan because that makes
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Mike Rogers look more normal. She appeals to the hard
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: left base, the DSA from the river to the sea
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: people and the rent control and the Green New Deal people.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: She is hard left. So she's great in a primary
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: when you've got to get the hard left base that
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: shows up when no one else is cared. But then
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: you don't. She's an invisible girl when it gets time
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: for the general election because nobody wants to lose.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 23: Here's an anecdote that Axios talked about, we'll put up
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 23: on the screen. Sam Forstag, a progressive House candidate in
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 23: Montana who rallied with AOC in May en route to
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 23: winning the Democratic primary, suggested that he doesn't want her
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 23: to campaign for him in the conservative state for the
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 23: general election. Forstag has scrubbed Ocasio-Cortez's endorsement from his campaign's website.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 23: It's like, AOC, who's that?
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of her. Yeah, John, Montana is the
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: giveaway there. They like guns in Montana. They actually like
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: freedom in Montana. And AOC might be great for the 5%
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: of Montana that is DSA or less. In a primary,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: she is great. In a general election, in any red state,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: in a lot of blue states, she is poison. And therefore,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: when we get into the Democratic primary, it's just going
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: to be very interesting to see whether or not the
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Democratic primary voter realizes what a liability she is in
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: a general election. I don't know that they will. They
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: love her on the stump when you're a lefty, not
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: when you get anywhere near a real election.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 23: Yeah, it's kind of like Hassan Piker in El Sayed, right?
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 23: Bring him in for the for the primary.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Now, who is he?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 23: Never heard some streamer from California. So there's indications that.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 23: that AOC is going to run for Schumer's seat in 2028,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 23: which I guess would probably be a good fit for
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 23: her because she's got home state appeal.
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  Speaker 1: I think she could win that. But I'm a firm believer, John,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: that when the door is open for you to get
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: a presidential nomination, you go for it because it doesn't
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: come around. Other people have their flares go up. Every
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: people get to go around the moon. So she's got
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: one shot, which is to go right now. President Trump
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: has called into question her ability to do interviews, to
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: do debates, to do speeches. And I think he's right.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: But nevertheless, that window is open. That door is open.
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  Speaker 1: Why go to the Senate and be the youngest person
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: in the Senate for the next 15 years? Why not
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: go for the presidency? Because you've got your shot. The
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Senate will be there if you don't make it.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 23: Well, there's always 2032. She's still pretty young and has
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 23: an opportunity to brush up on foreign policy before she
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 23: has to make any speeches, too. Hugh, always good to
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 23: catch up with you.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I would say to John, it
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: will take her a lot longer than between now and
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: 32 to brush up on her foreign policy because she's
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: starting from negative 100.