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Ep. 713: MeatEater Radio Live! Rattlesnake Trail Cams and Hundreds of Beavers · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain time.
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  Speaker 2: That's neon o'clock for our friends in Oaker River, Manitoba
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday, June fifth, and we're live for Met Eater
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  Speaker 2: Hqan Boseman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Jannis
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  Speaker 2: and Randall. On today's show, we'll recap Yanni's bear hunt
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: and Randall's turkey hunt. Then we'll interview owen Bach Huber
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: about Project Rattlecam. After that, Meat Eater Movie Club, we'll
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  Speaker 2: review its strangest film yet, followed by a fishy hot
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  Speaker 2: tip off, and finally, Kayak angler Christine Fisher will join
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  Speaker 2: us for some one minute fishing redemption. But first, before
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  Speaker 2: we hear about this successful bear hunt and successful turkey hunt,
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  Speaker 2: I have a listener feedback prompt for those folks who
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  Speaker 2: are joining us live. All your questions today give him
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  Speaker 2: to Phil. Let's let's make every Phil's gonna answer everything
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  Speaker 2: Phil doesn't know about this. Ask Phil like the hardest
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  Speaker 2: video game level he's ever played? Is, what his favorite
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  Speaker 2: cover song is? What his first card was? Phil is
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  Speaker 2: always getting all kinds of questions. But but he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to throw himself into the spotlight.
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  Speaker 3: Is uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: He ignores those questions that people send. But today we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna make him address those questions. So just direct your
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  Speaker 2: questions at Phil. He's gonna answer them. This is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be phil feedback.
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  Speaker 4: All right for this Thursday, Let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, he's he's mildly on board.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also excited. All right, let's talk about the bear
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  Speaker 2: hunt Yanni, big old dead bear in Manitoba. How to
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  Speaker 2: go down?
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  Speaker 1: H the actual kill? How'd that go down?
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  Speaker 2: You want to hear the story however you'd like.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot to tell. Okay, let's see some photos
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  Speaker 1: that will help. That will help me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, jog the old memory.
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  Speaker 1: Along we baited. Oh wow, that's Craig McCarthy of North
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  Speaker 1: Mountain Adventures seeing his wife Melanie. They run a great outfit.
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  Speaker 1: Hi demand though, if you want to book a bear hunt,
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  Speaker 1: you can't get in there until twenty twenty nine. I
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  Speaker 1: found out.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty nine. Geez man, are are resident tags guaranteed
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  Speaker 2: in Manitoba?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, so they can hunt as much as
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  Speaker 1: they want.
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  Speaker 2: Have you been planning this trip since twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 1: No, their demand has just increased with a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of day with a little meat eater exposure, but a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But they've also just been crushing it, doing
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  Speaker 1: a good job. Like I said, it's a great outfit.
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  Speaker 1: It's the quintessential family run outfit. Like you are your
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  Speaker 1: stay in a cabin, but when you go have a meal,
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  Speaker 1: you're in their house having meals with their kids, who
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  Speaker 1: are both lovely, full on and they wouldn't feel bad
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  Speaker 1: if I called them like this, but their kids are
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  Speaker 1: getting to grow up, barrel and it made me sort
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  Speaker 1: of like rethink what I'm doing with my kids. They
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  Speaker 1: got a creek running through the backyard. The girl rolls
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  Speaker 1: in with like three creek chubs on a line, all
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  Speaker 1: muddy and dirty. What are you doing? I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 1: with those? I'm gonna chop them up and cheap feed
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  Speaker 1: them to the chickens.
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe that was your bear bait.
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  Speaker 1: No baar bait was as you can see in those barrels,
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  Speaker 1: oats and corn doused with used fryer oil and then
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  Speaker 1: sometimes a few extra sweets. Dainties. They call him up
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  Speaker 1: there in that part of the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yanni is showing us a photo that looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: hunting in a zoo. There are two black bears ten
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  Speaker 2: yards behind a side by side who are waiting for
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  Speaker 2: the baits to be deployed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and I have videos, but side by side that
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  Speaker 1: canm is parked exactly where it is, and I'm leaning
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  Speaker 1: against it where Craig's standing there, and one of those
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  Speaker 1: two bears in that picture are eating from the top
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  Speaker 1: of the barrel, licking the grease off, like from me
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  Speaker 1: to you. So baiting really works, And what's cool about
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  Speaker 1: it is that, you know, because not everybody wants to
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh it's so easy, Well, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work that goes into it. You know, you got
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  Speaker 1: to bait them up first, get them excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: They only start baiting, interestingly enough, about two weeks before
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  Speaker 1: season starts, so it's not a year round thing. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a long baiting season. It's just a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But the cool part about the baiting is is that
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  Speaker 1: you really get to watch bear behavior which is super
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  Speaker 1: neat like spot sock hunting. You're never gonna sit there
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  Speaker 1: and get to hear all the little nuanced noises that
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  Speaker 1: they make. They have these very like Star Wars Wookie
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  Speaker 1: like sort of many growls that but it almost sounds
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  Speaker 1: like when they go into hyperspace and you get that
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  Speaker 1: kind of sound right when they're flying those bears, when
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  Speaker 1: another bear is approaching and getting getting a little too close,
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  Speaker 1: you just hear this.
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  Speaker 5: Like.
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  Speaker 2: Is that how they sound?
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  Speaker 3: Phil, I'm sure in one of the trilogies it probably
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  Speaker 3: sounds something like that. That's not the first sound I
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  Speaker 3: would make, but you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's not. Maybe it's not hyper space, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's some other sort of that.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds kind of like, yeah, tractor beam or when
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  Speaker 3: the Millennium Falcon is breaking down and it kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Goes Wookie adjacent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that's it. Yeah, when they're whatever is
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  Speaker 1: powering the Millennium Falcon is like sort of powering down
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  Speaker 1: and they're like hitting the butts and knock and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: There fills index of movie sound effects over there. You
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  Speaker 2: could hear Yanni's impression and knew exactly what it was.
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  Speaker 1: All right, what else we got?
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  Speaker 6: So?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bear baiting was cool. It works good. You get
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  Speaker 1: to check them out. We hung beavers. Beavers, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: are so attractive. Oh yeah, that's the one there where
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  Speaker 1: you can see my butt. That's the one where I'm
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  Speaker 1: super close to him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're watching Yanni and a bear look at each
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  Speaker 2: other from how far? Like ten steps?
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  Speaker 1: Not even like I could have reached out three yards.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you got long arms. Is there anything else that
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  Speaker 2: bothers their bait piles?
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  Speaker 1: Not too much. I was surprised that there wasn't more
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  Speaker 1: stuff coming in, like you'd see a few bears, maybe
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  Speaker 1: a squirrel would roll through. But yeah, and the pictures
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  Speaker 1: didn't really you know, we weren't catching skunks and other stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but the beaver. He said, he'll have deer carcasses, bear carcasses,
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  Speaker 1: and the bears are indifferent, but beaver carcass. They won't
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  Speaker 1: even look at that barrel full of corn oats, friar oil, doughnuts, croissants.
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  Speaker 1: They love the beaver. Craig thinks it's because it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the first foods available in the spring, and they're
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  Speaker 1: taught that that, you know, by mom. They go to
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  Speaker 1: a beaver run and just sit there and you know,
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  Speaker 1: catch catch beavers. So the first night at beaver was
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  Speaker 1: just hung on a tree ten feet up. First bear
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  Speaker 1: comes in, runs up there, gets it, runs off. You
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  Speaker 1: listen to them eat it for the next couple of
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  Speaker 1: hours in the bush fifty yards away. So I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we got hang this beaver better, right for more entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: So one night we did sort of like a like
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  Speaker 1: a high linele you like tie off a horse too,
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  Speaker 1: and had it in the middle, but they really had
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  Speaker 1: no way to get to it, and they must have
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  Speaker 1: known that because they kind of were like, yeah, we'd
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  Speaker 1: look at it, smell it, we're not messing with the
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  Speaker 1: Next night we did it more of like how you
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  Speaker 1: hang food. We just throw it over a limb and
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  Speaker 1: it was maybe four feet out. That got their attention
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  Speaker 1: way more. They were like, oh, they could like touch
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  Speaker 1: the rope and then they could see that it was
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  Speaker 1: attached to the beaver. But still the first two gave
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  Speaker 1: it like two minutes and we're like, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: to the barrel, and he eats the stuff in the barrel.
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  Speaker 1: Third bear comes in, he's like, screw the barrel. Spends
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  Speaker 1: an hour trying to figure out how to get that
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  Speaker 1: beaver down up the tree, down the tree, going to
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  Speaker 1: the next tree over up that tree, walking out on
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  Speaker 1: the limb, like, came over to our tree, came up
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  Speaker 1: halfway up our tree and was like, dude, I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: frustrated over here. Get that beaver down. Went back down.
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  Speaker 1: Eventually grabs there's a video of this, grabs that yellow
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  Speaker 1: rope that the beaver's hanging by with his teeth, then
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  Speaker 1: gets it in his claws, goes to the base of
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  Speaker 1: the tree, lets it go, and the beaver sort of
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's been pulled up and it slides down stops. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew that or she that
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  Speaker 1: if you did that enough time, something would give. But
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  Speaker 1: basically he did that five times in a row, and
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  Speaker 1: eventually the little noose that we had around the beaver popped. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at that point we were rooting for him because an
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  Speaker 1: hour into it, I'm like, man, I should just go
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  Speaker 1: down there and cut that thing down for that guy.
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  Speaker 1: He deserves to get that beaver.
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  Speaker 2: What was the movement like almost exclusively morning and evening
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  Speaker 2: or are they were also rolling in at one pm?
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  Speaker 1: They're according to the moul trees all day long, but
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  Speaker 1: the mature bores, it's a it's an hour of power thing.
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  Speaker 1: Last hour I shooting light ended the day that I
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  Speaker 1: killed my bear, and I think at ten twenty and
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  Speaker 1: I killed my bear at ten oh six. Damn yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know, definitely the latest animal I've ever killed, I think,
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  Speaker 1: unless I miss forgetting something in Alaska. You know Alaska,
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  Speaker 1: you could kind of hunt that lad too. But it
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  Speaker 1: was cool because we had seen a bunch of bears.
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  Speaker 1: It's getting late in the day, be at that point
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  Speaker 1: that was the most we had seen. I think we've
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  Speaker 1: seen saw two cubs, the four one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: pounders that are like this guy that's in the video.
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  Speaker 2: Now you can and see the video that Yanni is
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  Speaker 2: referencing on the med Eater podcast YouTube channel. Check out
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  Speaker 2: the episode's media to Radio Live.
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  Speaker 1: And then we saw like a lanky six footer but
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  Speaker 1: he just wasn't thick. And then it was cool is
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  Speaker 1: we could just barely see out to this field that
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: was had just been dis maybe so it's just dirt,
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  Speaker 1: and you could see bears every now and then, and
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  Speaker 1: then eventually they'd kind of show up at the bait.
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  Speaker 1: So you see like Mama and she was this real
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  Speaker 1: pretty cinnamon and she had I think this one was
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  Speaker 1: the one with three cubs. She had like a black cub,
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  Speaker 1: a cinnamon cub, and a blonde cub. And but like,
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  Speaker 1: with fifteen minutes of light left, I look out there,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that joker looks like he's got a
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: little more girth to him, you know. And sure enough,
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  Speaker 1: when he got to the edge of the meadow where
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  Speaker 1: he's maybe sixty seventy yards from the bait, everybody at
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  Speaker 1: the bait scatters, cubs are going up trees, everybody's getting
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  Speaker 1: out of there. This dude that finally had the beaver,
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  Speaker 1: he moves off like another fifty yards and this when
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  Speaker 1: this big sucker rolls in, and it was like the
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  Speaker 1: woods just went quiet, like he just rolled in. He
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  Speaker 1: was the man. But still then with such little bear
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  Speaker 1: experience for me, I looked back at Max. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: is that the one I'm supposed to shoot? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I mean, ends up being a almost
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  Speaker 1: four hundred pounder seven a square seven and a half feet,
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  Speaker 1: had a twenty and three quarter inch skulls is that
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  Speaker 1: boot and Crockett twenty one? Yeah, so he's real close.
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  Speaker 2: There, So you need to find a more generous measure, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. There's cracking out with the bear
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  Speaker 1: at the recovery and it was great. He only went
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  Speaker 1: like fifty yards. I'm guessing he was not alive more
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  Speaker 1: than thirty seconds. Shot him a six hundred grain arrow
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  Speaker 1: that was tipped with a two hundred grain iron wheel
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  Speaker 1: single bevel. Yeah, good shot, right through both both lungs.
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  Speaker 2: Is that your first bear with a bow?
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  Speaker 1: First bear ever? Oh? Yeah, first bear ever? Well, I
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: killed one in my yard at mngus that had treed,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't really count that as it wasn't a
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: hunted bear.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you said that you asked Max if this
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: was the one you were supposed to shoot. I assume
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  Speaker 2: then that they had like a rollodex of what bears
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  Speaker 2: existed in this set of woods.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you have trailcam photos and videos right, sort of
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  Speaker 1: what's been showing up lately. But the thing was we
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: were pretty late into May when we were actually there
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: into June, and so the ruts definitely heating up, and
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: so he's like, yeah, look man, like there's a sour round,
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be boars rolling in. So there are these
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  Speaker 1: two and there was one that had a little white
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  Speaker 1: patch and there was the other one, which is the
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  Speaker 1: one that I had killed off his bait. But he's
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  Speaker 1: like there could be a giant chocolate.
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  Speaker 4: But they didn't have names. No liketron, no no jokers.
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  Speaker 2: That was what Yanni called him.
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  Speaker 1: They outfit pretty close to the boundary of a national
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  Speaker 1: park and it's I can't remember the acreage of the
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: national park, but it's huge. And so they sort of
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  Speaker 1: have this, you know, sanctuary right next to him. And
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  Speaker 1: so they have this a constant replenishment of bears. So
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  Speaker 1: you really don't know who's going to show up.
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  Speaker 2: What's what's their program in the far the guiding deer
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  Speaker 2: hunters as well.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of deer, mostly moose. I actually might
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  Speaker 1: go up and do an exploratory caribou hunt with him
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  Speaker 1: this I haven't decided that yet. I invited Clay. He
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: was very excited, but it doesn't the dates don't work well.
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  Speaker 2: I guess that on the back from Randall means nothing.
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  Speaker 2: That he just gave you a minute ago.
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  Speaker 1: We can discuss Randal.
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  Speaker 4: I think we have a great on camera dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: Y yeah, I agree, I agree, it could be a
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  Speaker 1: good time. Exploratory means that another outfit that runs up there,
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  Speaker 1: has switched his business basically to all eco tourism. But
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  Speaker 1: he has the lodging and the equipment everything set up
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  Speaker 1: four caribou hunts, but he just doesn't want to do
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: the hunting anymore. He's got just the same amount of
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  Speaker 1: money in eco tourism and doesn't have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: skin and critters and you know. And uh so he's
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: basically said to Craig like, hey, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: run it out of here, you can just give me
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: a you know, cut off the top. And so Craig
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about it. He needs pictures, he needs images.
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  Speaker 1: He's sure it's a good hunt. And I'm like, oh,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: well I could be here your guinea pig, you know.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then maybe take Spencer and Randall with you. It's gone, we.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Could do already. We've already ditched me eat.
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  Speaker 4: Roast reducts, battle north of the border.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go.
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  Speaker 2: We'll kill the thing and then cook it. Thank you.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that look like a lot of fun. Oh it's
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: a great, great trip. Man, We really got the whole
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Manitoba experience. Got killed on day three. We had two
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: more days, so we got to go fishing for a
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: half day, cooked an awesome bear meal. You know all
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: this stuff about bears, whether you like them or not.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm in the same boat of being often being like,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: do I really want to kill a bear?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: They're kind of cuddly. Oh they're more curious or smarter
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: than these other animals that we hunt or whatever. But
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: as soon as I get to eating one, I'm like, oh,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I should kill a bear every year, because like, we
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: just did an overnight Brian and then slow roasted it
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: the next day, and then like ninety minutes you go
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to baste it and it's got an inch of pan
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: juice and there's just besides maybe a hog. But I
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: don't care what fat cow elk you shoot. You're not
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: going to get an inch of pan juice in your
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: roasting pan. No certain that animal or deer or care
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean. And I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I brought home a I brought home probably well over
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: one hundred pounds of bear meal.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, now you're gonna have a big old bear rug
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: in your house in the office.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't decided yet, man, I got a quote twenty
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: five hundred for six footer and it goes up from there.
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  Speaker 1: So the seven footer, I don't even know holy what
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be, but that's what. Yeah, that's what the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: going rate is right now. And h so I might
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: just get her tanned.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, seems like a lot, I know.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I mean that's half of another bear hunt to go on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, wow. But it's also like, well, when's
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the next time you're gonna kill a seven plus foot
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: black bear? Nine? I don't have to draw. Yeah, you
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: just got to get a spot before we move.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: On here about Randall's turkey ONNT you said you wanted
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: to talk about an argument you and Max, Yeah, toast versus.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, viewers can help us out too with this. So
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: one morning, Eli Harris, whose new videographer Forrest Force on
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: this strip, did a great job. He makes Max and I, uh,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: some tote in the whole breakfast, which is just when
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you take a piece of toast, cut out of a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: hole in the middle, crack an egg in it, fr
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: it up. Max pours maple seers all over his and
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: then proceeds to tell me that it's pretty much like
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: French toast, and I'm like, you have kind of some
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: of the ingredients are the same.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Half of them.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not French toast. It doesn't taste like
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: French toast.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: You don't make it like French toast.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you frieday in a pan. That part is similar.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Is it closer to French toast or toast and a
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: fried egg?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I would say toast and a fried egg. Even if
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: you put maple syrup on toast and a fried egg,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I would still say it's closer to toast and a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: fried egg.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: It's very clearly a gimmicky way to make a toast
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: and a fried egg. French toast.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: It feels like it's for a child, Like that's what
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you'd cook for your eleven year old. To get outside
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: about cereal hope.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: See, I really enjoy a toad in the hole because
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I use a lot of I'm not saying a lot
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of a lot of butter, so that toast is just
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: like extra crispy buttery. Anyways, Max is like it's pretty
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: much French toast. Eli is like adding his French toast.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: You know what.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't argue with either one of you. I felt like, no,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I think you could have syrup on it. Not that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be offensive to me.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: It's not offensive I'm just saying it's not French toast.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Not French tos.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Agree with you there, Yeah, not at all.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: There's got to be some other weird regional names for
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: that food that I'm not aware of.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: The egg and the yeah and yeah, a French term.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I know, egg in a basket, bull's eye quote whatever,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: croaked to toast. What do the viewers say? Not even
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: close to nest.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: One of them says, is what it's called egg in
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a basket?
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, looks like you got a quote on a
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: on a rug. They're honest.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Someone, someone's gonna lower the price for you.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell any good tax numbers. They're big meat
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: eater fans. D m me tell us about the the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Cory's got a big bear rug too. We'll send.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: And maybe a turkey customer tell us about this dead turkey.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Well, we didn't, Max and I didn't get into any
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: arguments about breakfast food on our hunt. We actually didn't
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: eat breakfast until after the turkey was dead because it
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: got shot at shooting light.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Essentially, it's amazing you two shot your animals, probably like
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: six hours apart or something like that, but one of
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you in the morning, one of you in the evening.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: No, Max.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Max took me out. We found a We went to
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a property hees got permission on. We started, climbed up
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: to a little ridge and drank some beers and gobbled
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: and the turkeys gobbled back, and then we glassed one up.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Then we found another one and we never saw him,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: but we went back and that night Max said, I
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: had to make the decision about whether or not I
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: wanted to go to the one that we didn't see
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: or the one we saw.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: And so we played a quick game of chance and
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the one that we saw. And you know, I can't
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: really do justice to this hunt, So Phil, I spent
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: about nine minutes yesterday using the movie maker feature on
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: my iPhone and would you just play play that? I
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: think it my first turkey hunt. Max took me hunting
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: with that one.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Oh you cut out the part of you running at
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the bird there. I like that, Thank you, sir. Thanks,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it's Max crying in the background.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Three three, first gobbler, look.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: At that sunrise.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Dude, what a great day.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Very nice.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: You know what that reminds me of is when like
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: on Sesame Street, they'll have kids like I went to
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the fact the candy factory we got to watch them
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: make chok plan. There's just a bunch of b roll. Yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I was gonna.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I was adding this stuff to the drive, and when
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I was like manipulating the files on my phone trying
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: to send them places, it was like, do you want
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: to open this in iMovie?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what the hell?
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, I would like, but I literally couldn't figure out
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: how to change the text on the title or how
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: to get rid of it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: It's not very just thought it was a really funny joke,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: but no.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think you did justice to how you determine
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: which turkey were going After.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: We we flipped an empty es in canu in the
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: in the truck as we drove onto the property, and
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: it landed heads up or heads down, heads up, which
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: was the ridgebird. Wow, bottom of the can was the
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: house bird. So yeah, we hiked into where this thing
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: was and about we didn't hear any gobbles, And ten
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: minutes before shooting light, Max said he was going to
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: start calling, you know, in fifteen minutes or so, So
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: he's going to call just after shooting light to let
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: the bird come down. Then right after he said that
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the bird started gobbling. So Max waited a little while
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: longer till it was shooting light and started talking back
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: to it, and it came right in and Max coached
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: me through it. And I don't know if you could
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: hear it in that in that little cinematic treat, but
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Max actually just goes get him and that's when I shot. Okay,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: So I didn't realize he was filming me, but he
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: he sort of was coach. He's like, he's like, I
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: just followed the sound with your gun barrel, so when
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: it pops up, you don't have to move to get him.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And so I shifted the barrel over slightly to where
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I last I heard it. And then there's a big
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: fan in my face and then the fan goes away
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: and this head comes up and they had turned sideways
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: and then Max.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Goes shoot him and I gave it to him, great
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: adle movie. Clay Nwcombe come in and he said that
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: was a film.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a that was a project.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I doubt that's the real Clay nuke on this spy
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: just some dude signed in Clay Nukee.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I hope it is Clay because he's been having a
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: conversation with Brent, and Brent thinks it's class.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: I will say that the hardest part of making that
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: was figuring out how to do the voiceover feature, because
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: then when it has you record the voiceover, you can't
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: listen to the audio, so you end up talking over
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: the things you want to hear. So I probably did
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: five takes on that, which was maybe four and a
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: half minutes of the eight to nine minutes I spent
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: making it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You nailed it, Now, what happened to the you were
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: gonna Last time I saw you, you patterned a ten
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: gage that you were going to use.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but remember that that trigger didn't work.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: No, you didn't remember that. I took trigger too heavy
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: or too light or.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: A double trigger, and one of them just doesn't reset.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: And I've gotten it to get fixed. I took it
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: right back away. I took it right back from the shop,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: took it straight to the two seven seven shooting experiment.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Cracked off one barrel. We were all impressed, and then
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I went to crack off the other one and just
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: did the thing where you shoot a gun and you're
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: anticipating the recoil and you just squirm. So it's fixed now, apparently,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: but I have yet to pick it up, so next year.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: We'll get the next Are you are you going to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: go turkey hunting again? Did you have that much fun? Yeah?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I had a great time. I mean it was just
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: like a fun morning.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't suffer for it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't dream about it. But it was very fun
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to see someone who knows what they're doing, just like
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: work a property and then work a bird. So I
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: learned a lot and I see the appeal of it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: We've eaten two meals out of it so far. We
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: did a little Katsu chicken style turkey bowl and then
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: we did.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Two comments I want a highlight. One of them is
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Clay Newcombe says, this is the Clay Newcombe, which is
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: exactly what an imposter.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say someone and then and
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: then he also said a Kern spell too hard. Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: that's exactly what someone who wasn't Clay would say to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: make us think that they were.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: And then someone else said, Randall Spielberg.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Randall Ford Coppola, that was another one.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: There you go, first bear hunt story or excuse me,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: first dead bear story, first dead turkey story.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well done, boy, a couple.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: First, Hey, thanks all right. Moving on.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Joining us on the line now is Owen back Huber,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a grad student from California Polytechnic State University. He's here
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: to talk about Project Rattlecam. Owen, welcome to the show.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Owen.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: First thing, tell us what Project rattlecam is.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So, Project Rattlecam is a partnership between cal Poly
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: and Dicketson College run by my advisor Emily Taylor and
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: our partner Scott bo Back, and we use cameras to
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: study snake behavior. So this actually started by using trail
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: cameras at battlesnake dens to get a sense of what
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: they were doing throughout the year. But they do so
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: many cool behaviors right that we can't really capture that
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: with just still images. And so that's where we're using
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: live streaming cameras now to broadcast these dens live to
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: YouTube so that we can study them as well as
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: share them with the public.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And what sorts of things can scientists learn from this
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven monitoring.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so, as I'm sure that you know, just the
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: presence of a researcher near an animal can have an
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: impact on their behavior, and so a lot of our
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: perceptions of what snakes are like and what they do
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: are impacted by them responding to us right to see
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: a snake. They might sit still trying to hope that
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: you ignore them and move away. They might act defensively,
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: and so what I'm studying is the social behaviors and
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: communication between the snakes. So we actually see that battlesnakes
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: have friends, they have individuals that they prefer to spend
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: time with, and they seem to have communication too. So
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: they do this really cool head twitching behavior where they
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: kind of bob their heads at each other as they approach,
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: and we're trying to figure out what that's all about,
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: what they're saying.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: To each other.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, you have more intimate knowledge about rattle snakes and
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: maybe anyone else. So walk us through the average day
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: in the life of a rattlesnake that lives in Colorado,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: which is the live cam that you guys have available
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: These sites that we're watching are dens in that there
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: are places where the snakes are hibernating throughout the winter,
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: but now that we're getting into summer, it's turning into
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: a rookery. So the snakes that we're watching right now
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: are actually pregnant females who are going to stay here
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: for the entire summer until they give birth later in
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: the year. And right about now it is starting to
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: hit the rocks. Things are warming up, so they're going
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: to start to emerge in these rocks and basking the
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: sun to warm up their internal temperature. And the really
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: cool thing is that these snakes, because they're not leaving
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: the dam, they don't have access to any standing water,
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: and so whenever it rains, they're really thirsty. They come
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: out and they flatten themselves out like a saucer, and
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: they'll actually drink the water off of their backs. So
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: sometimes too, we'll see predators come through, like magpies trying
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: to eat the baby rattlesnakes, and so there can be
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: a lot of drama that ensues with.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You then tell us about some of the names the
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: personality traits that these rattlesnakes have, and do rattlesnakes ever
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: show up that you're not familiar.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: With all the time. So there are dozens, if not
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: hundreds of adult battlesnakes that are using the site, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: so it's impossible for me to keep track of all
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: of them. And just imagine when each female gets worth
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: to eight pups in August, right, that number increases by
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: an order of magnitude. So it's really hard to know
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: who's all there. But the ones that we see the
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: most often are actually named by YouTube viewers. So if
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: someone's watching and they see a snake a couple of
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: times and they take screenshots, they can submit them to
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: us and get naming rights to that snake.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And so some of them.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: There's one who's a really charismatic male named Thor, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: he's been sticking around. He's really desperate to find a mate.
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: We see him courting a lot of females. He's even
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: courted a couple of males, but we've never observed successful copulation.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: And some of the things too, are named after people's
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: moms and dogs, and so they have really cute names
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: to sometimes noodle names, you know, lasagna and ramen. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: it's kind of a really fun thing. And you're seeing
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: right now all these snakes kind of slithering out checking
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: out each other. I can actually see that that's Thor
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: in the bottom right there, because he has kind of
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: a roopy lip. He was bitten in the face by
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: an ant and ever since he was in there, the
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: venom must have caused lip paralysis or something, so he's
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: got kind of this droopy lip still. Okay, Yeah, it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: pretty amazing. You can see some of those babies in
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: there hanging out with him as well.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: You told us that Thor is charismatic, but it's because
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: he is so desperate to mate with the other snakes.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I'm amused by that description. What's the camera setup? Like
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: case hunters, we're really familiar with trail cameras, but I
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: assume the technology used now is way beyond that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so you're seeing the camera right now. It is
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: a axis security camera that is powered by two eight
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: foot solar panels, and then we have a big battery
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: bank that's.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Up there as well.
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: And so because this is totally off grid, we have
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: to use cellular streaming to get that to YouTube, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: so it's quite the operation to get that all up
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: and running. And we're actually just about to publish a
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: paper on the whole setup, because before this we were
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: kind of working on our own with how we were
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: going to figure this out, and so we had a
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: really great team of engineers here at cal Poly we're
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: able to put this together for us.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: And has your team had any close calls with snakes
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: while setting up these cameras.
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: You know, as a snake biologist, I wouldn't characterize them
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: as such. So you know there are snakes, quite a
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: few of them there. When we go to set up
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: the camera. We went earlier in the year when few
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: of them would be out. Some of the snakes were
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: still out right and kind of doing their things, but
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: usually they try to get away from us. We always
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: make sure that we're wearing high boots right, so that
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: if we accidentally did stuff on u snake and and
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: see it, that would provide us some level of protection.
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: And also you got to kind of make sure what
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: you set down. So I went there last summer, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: you know, if you set down your backpack, I was
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: warned that a rattle snake might decide to make its
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: home right underneath there, and sure enough, that's exactly what happened.
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: One of them decided to coil up, and so we
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: just kind of moved the backpack gently and carefully and
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: got that out of the way.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: You mentioned magpies, but what other animals show up on
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: these cameras near the dens.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, a lot of animals that your viewers might be
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: familiar with.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: So we've seen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: Long shelled weasels, and there's a whole lot of wildlife
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: that we could see. But two really exciting ones that
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: we saw this past year were an elk came up
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: and actually put its face right in the camera and
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: checked it out, and then we saw a porcupine two
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: on the camera. So it's kind of a window into
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: all of the nature that you could see in this area.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Tell us about some of the highlights. What are the
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: best moments that your team is captured so far.
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, one of the amazing things is that we
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: can watch the snakes at night, and so that's when
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: we saw those other animals. But also it's a lot
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: of times when the snakes are getting birth, and so
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: last year we got to watch two pregnant females give
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: birth live to their pups on camera and zoom right
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: in see the snakes pop their head out of their
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: amniotic sac for the first time. You can see the placentas.
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: It's all like right there in really high definition, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: we can look so close at the snakes even that
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: we can see bugs, and you might not think that
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: bugs are that interesting, but we noticed these mosquito looking
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: things kind of dancing on the snakes, and we didn't
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: know what they were. But when we contacted an entomologist
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: who studied flies, he told us that they were these
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: psychoded flies that were actually looked like they were recording
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: females so that the female the male flies don't eat,
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: but the females feed on blood, and so that the
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: males were doing like a dance trying to lure the
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: female flies to mate with them on the battlesnakes, which
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: you know, there's no fly cameras, right, So but if
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: we can zoom in really well on this, it's providing
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: a window to other people who are just it in
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: totally different things too.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and tell folks how they can support this work
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and how they can watch the rattlecam.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: So you can learn more about us at battlecam dot org.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: And there we have a donate page where you can
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: support our education programs and research and it also links
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: right live to our YouTube. So project rattlecam is is
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: the name of our YouTube channel where you can go
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: and watch anytime.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I checked in four or five times this
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: week and preparing for the interview. Every time I open
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: it up there were rattlesnakes on the camera. I was
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: very impressed. It's it's twenty four to seven action on
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: those live cams.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: It's pretty amazing. We had a camera set up in California,
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: and the densities of snakes here just aren't the same.
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: You know, we might see one to day or something
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: like that, but this is a really impressive site where yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: basically you can always see a snake.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: And it feels more intimate too, because when I go
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: look at like a live bald eagle cam, there's fifty
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: thousand people watching. When I look at your rattlesnake camera,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: there's like twenty five people watching. So we need more
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: shine on the rattlesnakes. Turn off the bald eagle cams,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: go check out these rookeries that they have a live
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: look at. Thanks for joining us, and thanks for creating
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a special way for people to interact with wildlife.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much. It's my pleasure.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Randall. I saw you making a lot of faces over here.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Not a big snake guy, yeah, not a big snake guy. Serpents.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Give me the hebgb's I'm sure there's other folks out
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: there that feel similarly.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I get a cold shiver anytime I see when it
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: can be the most harmless small snake. I was just
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: mushroom hung a week ago, came across four of them.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Every time I just like sends a chill from my ankle.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: To my back.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate it, hate it, hate it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: All right, we're having the show anything to him though,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm very excited for this. I get plenty
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: of exposure. That's not the answer.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Good touches something in my deep caveman brain.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: We're gonna get some listener feedback. I'm very excited about
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: this because it's all for Phil.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Phil.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: What do we got?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Oh boy?
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: First one, let's see, let's starts. It's warm, warm people
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: up here. I think I had one there.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Let's Fill's favorite band? Someone asked, Oh, yeah, my favorite band.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: It's pretty close between Radiohead and an indie folk band
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: from Portland called The Decembris. I love them dearly. Colin
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Malloy is a Montana native. The lead singer is also
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: an author, and their songs are nerdy literary storytelling set
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to as music.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: How many times have you seen Radiohead Live.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Radio had only once. They don't come here very often.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I saw them on the n Rainbows tour in eight
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: and it was incredible. I've seen I've seen The Decembrist
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: probably a dozen times though, because they around the West
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Coast and and Montana.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: All right, Phil, give us some more.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Phil, Let's see this is specifically for this one guy.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I'm sure have you played Expedition thirty three yet? If so,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: what do we think? The answer is? Yes, I beat it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: It rules my game of the year so far.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Wow. Phil.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Kingdom Hearts Guy. For those of you who don't know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Kingdom Hearts is a Japanese action RPG game that melds
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: that was like a multiversal project that mixed the worlds
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: of Final Fantasy and Disney IP. It seemed insane at
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the time. I was obsessed with this game.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Aren't they unlike the twentieth edition?
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been many spinoffs, each one more insane and
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: preposterous than than the last season.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It's still on.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: There's commercials for during the NBA playoffs.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know what they have
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: commercials for.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Lebron does a commercial? Okay, game on a phone.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I was so obsessed with this game. It came out
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: on my seventh grade picture day. I brought the I
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: brought the case to my school and asked if I
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: could hold it up in my school picture and they
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: said no, and I will devastate it. Phil, I hyped
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: you for GTA six, pretty hyped. I really enjoy the
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: GTA games and I but I never get into online.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I play the campaign, the story mode, I have a
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: great time. It's it's a blast, a lot of fun,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: and then I put it away.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: These are great. Give us some more films.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Okay, uh, quick hitters love it?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Oh boy?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I think I saw one that was like death Row Meal.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I might have not started that one. But death Row
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Meal simple just a really good fish and chips with
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: a tartar sauce and malt and malt vinegar and a
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: multi beer, uh preferably. But I'm I'm really not picky.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I had I'm not pick pit picky with who fish
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: at all?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Who does good fish and chips? And Bozeman?
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, not not a lot. I'd say, like
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: the Bocus is solid. I don't know if you guys
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: have any of any tis the Boccus is like my
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: number one go to in in Bozeman.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Is it goot Lawn? Is that the German like their
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: fish and chip?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I haven't had it, but I love the idea of
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: having it there because that you can get the big
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: german German steins of beer. There's a couple more, Phil,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: What game are you playing right now? I just played
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Death Stranding in anticipation of Death Stranding two coming out
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: later this month. But also I was telling the boys
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: in here before we started, I have an unboxed Nintendo
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: switch to upstairs in my office and we can just
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: turn the whole Q and A session into an unboxing
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: video if you guys want to, Uh, let's let's let's
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: let's call it there.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: If he was going to have to share his switch
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to with those Torp children he has, what was your answer, Phil? No?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: They they all they got their own switches for Christmas,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: and part of that was so when the Switch two
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: came out it could be mostly mine.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good parenting advice there from Phil.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: And I'll do one one actual question for meat eater fans,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: And because the honest is here, Odie the Good Shepherd asks,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: how's mingus doing? And how's this training coming along? Kind
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: regards on the other side of the pond out of
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Rotterdam in another ONLD.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: That's a hell of a port. Yeah, a lot of traffic.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they mostly move through there?
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Whatever? Just shipping.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, Mingus is doing it, doing great. Uh, he's kind
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of trained up. My main mentor says that Mingus is
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: as much of a lion dog as he's ever going
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: to be, and he's not going to get any better.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But he's great right now. He does his thing. So yeah,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: we're we're having fun. Season's over, so we're you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Mingus is waiting for December first.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: At this point, how long will he be at the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: mountain top of his like best? I don't know lion hunting.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Did they start to go downhill at some point? I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: suppose their physical fitness?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think that the you know, the older
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the dogs get, maybe they get more efficient, Maybe it
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: gets you know, smarter about how they run tracks. I thing,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: this doesn't seem to be a real genius, So I
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna happen with him. But I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: don't know. He's only four now. I guess there'll be
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: five this fall, So I imagine he's got at least
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: that many more good years in his prime.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: All right, moving on, Our next segment is Meat Eater
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Movie Club. This week we're reviewing the twenty twenty two
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: comedy Hundreds of Beavers.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I've just passed out a few scripts. Your lines are highlighted, Corey,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: if you'll begin.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh hold on, Corey, I gotta turn your
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: mic on here.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: They did not know about this was that you were
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you were intentionally leaving this at this very moment.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is why I was so concerned that the
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: printer was working for me earlier. Perfect. So Corey, Yeah,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: your lines are highlighted.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Am I on?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Phil, You're on.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: And also, for those of you wondering this, these other
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: man sitting at the table, is he's Jake. He's gonna
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: be He's our newest addition to the podcast team. He's
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: gonna be doing some stuff for Radio Live after they're
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: starting at the end of the month. So Hi, Hi Jake. Anyway, Corey,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: The setting is the podcast studio Meat Eater, Headquarters, Bozeman, Montana.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: It's eleven one eight.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: No, no, you're supposed to read it as if it's
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: before the show. Just read it as written.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Jesus, A lot of work put into this.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: It's ten twenty eight am on Thursday, June fifth, thirty
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: two minutes before the recording of Meat Eater Radio Live
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: Episode forty one.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning Randall, Good morning Phil the Engineer. Do
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: you have all your jingles lined up for the show?
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: All set on that front. Are you ready for me
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: to eater Movie Club today? I think the whole movie
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: club segment has played out. My monologues just get longer
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and longer. The tone has gotten darker and darker. The
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: references are just too obscure. I think the jokes run
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: it course, it's tired, and my heart's just not in
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: it anymore. Well, at least we've got a great film
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: to discuss today, right. I saw that the movie you've
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: selected for this week as a score of ninety seven
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: percent on Rotten Tomatoes. What's it called, hundreds of Beavers?
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly right, hundreds of Beavers twenty twenty two,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: directed by Mike Cheslick and starring Ryland Bricks and Coal Tews.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I was a little surprised by that Rotten
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Tomatoes score, as well as the critical acclaim I saw online.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Why so, Well, I just I'm not even sure what
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: to make of the film. It was about trapping right loosely.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Well, no, it is in the same way that Space
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Jam is about basketball, or maybe just a little less
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: than that. There's a man who begins as a drunkard,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: something to do with apples. It's also very cold out,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: and he catches some fish with his fingers, and then
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: he spends much of the film getting hurt while trying
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: to catch critters of all kinds and increasingly elaborate traps
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: and schemes. Half the time his plans backfire spectacular but
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: large men in furry like beaver costumes are killed and skinned. Yes,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: and the plot does involve the accumulation of bodies of
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: dead beaver men. But then the beavers hold a Soviet
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: style show trial for the lead character before attempting to
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: skin him and make a coat out of him. And
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: there's a weird rocket ship at the end. It's partially animated.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: There's sort of a weird video game like quality to
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: the whole thing. Ah, maybe it is more like Space
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Jam than I thought. And the whole thing's in black
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: and white. It's just a lot of weird stuff.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: The chat might be disappointed with this segment today, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: at least it's not because they had to sit through
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: yet another heavy handed film analysis in Migrating Monotone delivery.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Oh man, wow, yikes, were there any highlights?
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Well, the thing that immediately comes to mind is the
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: sound design. Absolutely fantastic. Lots of rattles and crashes and
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: whistles and bonks. Brought me right back to the golden
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: age of Tinseltown. Above and beyond that, I guess I
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: just admire the commitment of the whole vision.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: The commitment to what exactly it's a comedy right, Well.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose it is, but it's not that simple.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: It's more like a chaotic, avant garde comedic experiment that
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: defies the conventions of mainstream filmmaking in the twenty first century.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Yet at the same time, it's clearly in conversation with
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: a variety of cinematic touch points. It's got Slapstick's sensibility,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: like three Stooges and Merry Melodies. We see traces of
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: the stop motion aesthetics of South Park and tonally, there's
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: a little bit of bert Ives Christmas specials. On top
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: of that, the dramatic arc of the film is basically
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: just a simplified version of the best eight and a
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: half minutes of Home Alone. That is, the first Home Alone,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: the one where mccullay Culkin's character is actually alone at
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: home and not at the Plaza Hotel in New York
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: City of course. Yeah, and throughout the whole film, the
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: main character just grunts and makes faces surrounded by actors
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: and animal costumes that are eerily reminiscent of the rabbit
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: figure in Donnie Darko. I also have to point out,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: only because it bothered me so much, that there's a
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: brief nod in one scene to that terrible dogs playing poker,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: painting soft and displayed in suburban wreck rooms in American
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: casual dining chains with friendly atmospheres, like, for example, Applebee's,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: TGI Fridays, Oh Charlie's and Chili's, or Benigans, But that's
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: a more obscure reference because there aren't many Benigans around
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: in these days since the parent company, Metromedia Restaurant Group,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: was forced into an involuntary Chapter seven bankruptcy in two
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: thousand and eight. According to Benigans, dot Com. Only six
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: full service, free standing locations remain open in the US WOW,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: two in Texas, two and Iowa, one in North Dakota,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: and one in Illinois.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Although don't quote me.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: On that because I don't know if those are corporate
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: locations or if that's inclusive of franchises. Regardless, it's a
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: striking number, considering at one point there were more than
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty corporate Benegans locations.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: My goodness, that's interesting to learn about how few Benegans
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: there are in the United States. I guess I'd noticed
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: that their footprint had shrunk considerably since I was younger,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: but I didn't quite know the backstory.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but a growing part of the business now is
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: a derivative quick serve, fast casual concept, Benigan's on the
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Fly that's geared more towards high traffic locations like food courts, airports,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: arenas university campuses. They offer fresh, innovative selections, as well
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: as some customer favorites from the traditional Benigans menu, including
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: the Monte Cristo and the Turkey Tools spencer your laughing
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: stop stop.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that information on Benegans on the Fly, which
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I hadn't heard of until just now.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Looking to the future, the company has plans to expand
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: its already strong international presence, which includes multiple locations throughout
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Central America, as well as two in ball Rain two
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: and Guitar two in Dubai, and curiously four in Cyprus.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Coming soon, there's a location in Pakistan two. These are
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: all full service locations, by the way, just like the
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: original Betigans. God damn it, I got sad tracked last
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: night prepping for this show by reading about the resurrection
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: of the Betgans. Brandon, I'm falling into the same trap again.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: We can't get distracted, Phil, We've got to figure out
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: this movie club segment. Anyway, Back to the topic at hand,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Hundreds of Beavers also includes these surreal sequences where reality
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: just bends bends.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: How picture this.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: A wet piece of firewood is actually a log shaped pillow,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: so our hero is able to wring it out like
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: a sponge. Or the fur trader spits his chaw of
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: tobacco towards a spittoon, and then the plug just curves
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: wildly through the air so it never lands in the
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: intended receptacle until the very end, symbolizing the resolution of
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the conflict at the heart of the film. The physical
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: universe of hundreds of beavers makes no sense, but somehow
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: it works with its own hallucinogenic logic.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: And this goes on for how long?
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I figured it would go on for about five minutes,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: but it seems like it's going longer than that. No,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I mean the movie, oh, of course, an hour and
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: forty eight minutes. I checked my phone a lot, actually,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: mostly reading about Bennigan's thinking we are surely near the end.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: But no, the movie just kept going. More encounters with
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: people in animal suits, more elaborate failures, more falling in
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: the snow, more rolling in the snow, more grunting, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: more yelling.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Do you think Spencer and Giannis enjoyed it?
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: That's doubtful. I think it's too far out and left
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: field creatively, speaking for Spencer's taste, and you're honess, Well,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I know he appreciates good filmmaking and has a very
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: open minded sensibility, but I'm not sure even he can
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: make sense of whatever this is trying to be shit.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Sounds like movie Club might be a pretty tough segment.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Spencer's got ten or fifteen minutes dedicated
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to it in the rerun of the show. The show
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: will be recording in less than an hour.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Don't worry, we can fill it out somehow. Too bad,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: we can't include all of that good information about Bennigans.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: That's fun pre show banter, but not exactly what the
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: radio live audience is tuning in for totally. The thing is,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I can't shake the feeling that there's something profoundly lovable
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: about the madness of this film, Like you've got to
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: admire an unshaking conviction to an absurd premise. You just
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: come up with something completely bonkers and take it all.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: The way, so you respect it even if you don't
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: fully get it.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: You know, the more I think about it, the more
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I like it. Actually, I just love stuff that is
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: genuine in its weirdness. There's no cynicism, there's no winking
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: at the camera. There's just a bold, unadulterated fever dream
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: of a concept that doesn't shy away from the gaze
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: of the critic.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Well, what will you say on air? We're going live
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: at eleven.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I wasn't quite it's sure before this conversation, Phil, but
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: it's becoming clear and clear as we talk. There's an
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: interesting tension here. On the one hand, put yourselves in
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: the shoes of the makers of this film. You are
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: truly inspired by a creative concept, so over the top,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: so wrapped up in its own bizarre vision, that you've
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: just got to run with it, and you can't half asset. Sure,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: sometimes it might leave yours wondering what the hell was that,
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: But there's something joyful and beautiful in the deliberate insanity
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: of it all.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: On the other hand, if you're so committed to producing
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: something in keeping with your own comedic sensibilities, damn the viewer,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: you run the risk of losing the audience's attention, maybe
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: even earning its resentment. And point is, at that point,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: you're just doing it for your own amusement, completely for
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: your own amusement. And here's the big question. Is that
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: type of content just masturbatory, self indulgent on the part
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: of the artist film or is it a truer expression
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: of creative integrity that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Well, geez, that's actually not a bad angle for movie club,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: assuming you're still talking about the film.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Precisely, my friend, precisely.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: End scene, Wow, fade to black, Thank you, audience goes nuts.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Yes they are. I gotta catch my breath. I didn't
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: have to read anything.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Oh man. I actually liked this movie more than I
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: made it seem. I started working on this about halfway
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: through when I wasn't sure when to make of it.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: But at the end of it it won me over.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: But I thought this was such a good bit that
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I couldn't let it go.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Randall, I am glad you didn't. That was spectacular broken.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Broke.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: I told you someone was gonna cry in this building today.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Randall correctly predicted someone would cry, and I have laughing tears.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Thanks to Mogor for a very strange film.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how we had not heard about
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: this film.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Well, it's very new.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: It was only released and the two the star and
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: the director wrote it and they released it at a
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: film festival and then they I guess a studio attempted
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: to distribute it and they just wanted it to go
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: to like streaming platforms, and it.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Didn't even make it to streaming I think until like
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, or something like that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought this movie was a lot of fun.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I think like Randall said in his in his commentary,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: it's a little long in the tooth, but percent man,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: so many creative gags like it was. I couldn't believe
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: just how much stuff was unexpected or genuinely funny. I'd
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: say that the jokes worked more than they didn't for me,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: which is, you know, key to a good comedy.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, things I like, the music was great. To make
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: any movie on one hundred and fifty thousand dollars budget
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two is wildly impressive, so it felt
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: like it far exceeded that. It also felt like an
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Adult Swim bumper from two thousand and six. And that's
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a compliment because the weird on those bumpers. If you're familiar,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. It's kind of limitless. Phil,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I imagine you were really no idea. I'm lost. Y,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: you're a little old for that, Phil, explain.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's kind of hard to explain.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: But Adult Swim had kind of shorter programming, so they
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: would fill the just fill the space between shows with
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: these kind of like short films and and just stuff
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: that varied wildly. I think I think they just hired
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: different crazy creative people to make just these these weird bumpers,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: like like Spencer said, this movie felt like one.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Of those to me, But you know, drug Out over
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: two hours, which I think was too long. Yeah, we're
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: in agreement there.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: I had a line initially in my review where I said,
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: and I did have to cut quite a bit out
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: of this really.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I had a line in my review where I said,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: it seems like something I should watch and hold my
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: attention for about five to ten minutes on the internet,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: and maybe ten to fifteen minutes if I was drinking. Yeah,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: but like that's that's sort of it. But I liked
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: that they were just like, we're going to make a
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: two hour movie.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: This, Yeah, and this this felt like something that AI
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: could not make, and that's refreshing in a world that
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: feels like it's being swallowed by AI in this medium.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: The movie got a real laugh for me around minute
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: one hundred, when the daughter gets on a stripper pool
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: that was unexpected, which most things in this movie are.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: And then shortly after that a word gets bleeped, which
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: was also wildly amusing because there's no dialogue in the movie,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: so a bleep felt genuinely out of nowhere. I think
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: bleeps are always funny. You could you could serve me
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: a bleep in any show or movie and I'm gonna
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: laugh at it. But I got a real, real giggle
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: when that happened. Yeah, Yanni, did you watch this with anyone?
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: You recording the idea of watching with your daughters and
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if you went through with
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: it or not.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I did, but we started a little late last night,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: which means two things. One, we couldn't finish it. Kids
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: had to get to bed for school, and I fell
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: asleep for many parts of the first half. Been a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: long day, short night the night before Little Sauna. You know,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I wasn't It wasn't. It wasn't really like, I wasn't
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: set up to make it through a movie. But I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: kept waking up at giggles. So every time I wake up,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can't be too.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Your giggles are your daughter's giggles.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: So my daughters are giggling at these, at the jokes
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: that you know are slap you know, slapstick funny. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: did finish. I probably watched maybe seventy minutes of it
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: this morning, so I got to pick it up at
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: the important part. You know, I got the gist of
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: ith it. You guys are, We're all saying the same thing,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: but you have to give it almost thirty minutes just
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to sort of be like, oh, okay, I get it.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I'm immersed in.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I'm in now, because at first you're just like, wait
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: a minute, what I thought.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: The first thirty minutes could have been a five minute
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: set up. Sure, and then it just begins with him.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you could truncate the whole movie.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, the movie should be twenty five minutes. Yeah,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: but I mean the Beaver, the Man, the Giant Man
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: made out of Beaver's great The Beaver Show Trial was fantastic.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: The I also liked when she's skinning the animals, like
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: she is a legit little kit there of big curved,
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: fleshing knives and stuff like that. And then the one
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: I think it's the raccoon that she skins, she begins,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: I think she does something to its head, but then
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: she takes the arm and like breaks the joint. I
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: thought that was hilarious.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: This was filmed in Wisconsin and Michigan, I think so.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I assumed they're from that part.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: Of the world.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they like have some familiarity.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I mean it didn't seem subject like, it.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Seemed like people that knew what they were talking about.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, they don't give up on
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: the slapstick. Like just when you think like they can't
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: come up with something, you're like, oh, he just sneezed
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: and this giant snot thing turned into an icicle and
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: then killed something and the caster.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: The castor mounds and stuff.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but they also don't give up on keeping
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: like the trapping aspect legitimate. Yeah, Like like the scene
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: where he's I think he first gets his the leg
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: holds and he's like chucking him out on the ice
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: and he chucks it one time and it's not proper
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and then it's upside down and he has to do
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: it three times to you know, do it properly. You
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: could have just as easily, Yeah, chucked it out once
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: and the trap could have caught any animal right, no
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: matter how it came out there. But they were like,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: oh no, it has to flow out to this fake
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: beaver right side up because otherwise, you know, the viewers
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: are going to get mad that the trap caught this
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: fake Beaver. Yeah, when the trap was upside down, I know.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: There's like there's like attention to detailing it that I
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: was won over by the end of it. I still
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: if I had a director's cut, shave about sixty one
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: minutes off it. Yeah, but uh yeah, you got to
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: appreciate just going for it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: A couple other things I liked is they obviously did
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: their own stunts, and there's at one point where he's
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: like pushing a wooden box and then he falls into
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: the wooden box and he gets out, he falls into
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: it again and he nailed that part like that that
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: was done really well. I also liked the idea of
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the Beaver dam is like a damn that is run
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: by the Army Corps of Engineers.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, matter, a massive hydroelectric damn.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Things I didn't like, Yeah too long. I checked my
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: phone a lot, and I was like, it's got to
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: be about over and it wasn't. The other thing this
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: isn't necessarily something I didn't like about the movie maybe
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: just like the indie movie industry, is that this movie
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: was showered with awards and I'm like, really, yeah, this
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: was worthy of being nominated. I don't know, like fifty
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: times and winning twenty times. This could not have been
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: one of the greatest things that humans produced in cinema
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, even in the niche indie scene.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I was like mildly turned off by that. When I
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: saw afterwards, I was like, I can't believe that people
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: felt like this was one of the best things from
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: that year.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like the movie didn't affect me
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: in any way. I went through it, I walked away
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: and I was like, that's what I watched for an hour,
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: and yeah, I don't know.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: I think I was marveling at the creativity more than
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: more than anything, because I think I think that was unparalleled.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I respect it. I respect it. I mean
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: a strange, strange concept.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: But is there is there a message?
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I think their message was just like, look at the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: limitless weird that we can do two hours, and we
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: can we can revive a form of comedy that has
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: been lost with audio because it was it was like
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: three stooges.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: I had another line in here, and it was basically
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: just uh, this was more an experiment to see if
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: they could do this, like incorporate these different elements, like
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: what if we did this, What if we did this?
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: And then they just made the whole film without asking
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: if it was something they should actually do.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: This is like a classic hero's journey.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: I also I cut another line out.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I had an arc.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: The parent company, the parent.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Company for Bennegan's also owned Ponderosa Steakhouse, which explains where
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Pondero's a steakhouse, or as we called it when we
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: used to go there for the lunch buffet.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Sweet Lady p did you love Bennigans? I've been to one,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: not really I.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: Remember going to one. There's a South Park episode where
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: Butters really wants to go to Bennigan's. But I was
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: I was doing the thing about the dogs playing poker,
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: and I was trying to come up with another, like
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: few casual chains, and I saw Benigan's and I was like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: what the hell happened to Bennigan's.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Now we know?
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: And now we know, and it does seem like there's
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: a very committed couple in Texas who now own it.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: There's been some restructuring and they're committed to restoring the brand,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: which is cool because I think it's a real legacy
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: brand in the world of American restaurants.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I'd never heard of it.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Told I don't know that I've ever been in the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: same city as one.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: Well, next time you go to the Middle East man,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: he'll be surrounded by him.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: My big takeaway this would be the perfect movie if
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: you're a stoner college kid to watch on a Thursday night.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't wouldn't cancel weekend plans. I don't think this
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: is uh, you know, something you dedicate a Friday or
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Saturday too. But if you're a stoner college kid, do
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: what stoner college kids do and then put this on
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: tonight and you'll have like a wonderful two hours.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: That's all I got. Uh, thanks again to Moor. I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: feel like the segment ran too long and I played
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: a role in that, so I apologize.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Spencer, Can I suggest a switch around.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: We're gonna skip ahead to one minute Fishing. Yeah, all right.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Our next segment is one minute Fishing.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: Do I feel lucky?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: We'll do you dunk, go ahead, make my cast.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our anger is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Christine Fisher, who you'll remember from last week's episode. She's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: on Chickamauga Lake in Tennessee and fishing for a donation
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: to the first Wisconsin Chapter of Muskies, Inc. Christine, Welcome
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: to the show.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: Hey guys, how's it going?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Doing good?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Last week Christine you joined us. You were in Oklahoma
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: pre fishing for the twenty twenty five bass Master Kayak
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Series at Lake ten Killer. There were one hundred and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: thirty seven anglers in the field. Tell folks how you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: did well, y'all.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it was not meted or what,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: but I ended up taking the big w my first
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: best master win and it was the first win by
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: a female and bess master of history.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, first place. Nice to congratulations Christine. First place
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: among one hundred and thirty seven anglers. That's awesome. Now
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: explain how a bass master.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: How many other females Christine were in this tournament?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: I think this one was one of our highest attended
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: for females, and I think there were six of all.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: Out of one hundred and thirty seven.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Explain how a bass Master Kayak Series tournament is set
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: up and maybe different from other tournaments because the first
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: thing that jumps out to me when I look at
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: the results is that a fish's value is measured by
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: length instead of weight.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: No lost connection issues with Christine.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: Be a length.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: We have certified measuring boards that we use malasaf flows,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: and then we have a unique identifier. It has to
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: be in the picture for every single one of our fish,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: so they're GPS time damped. We have a first pass
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: in the last cast, and it's a pretty it's a
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: pretty techy little setup how they do it, and I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: love it because there are you know, this has been
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: around for ten years, and early on there were a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: lot of people that tried to kind of keat the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: system by various ways, and it's dang near impossible.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: To do that now, is awesome.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Give me an example of how people would try to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: cheat the system.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: So we had a guy, I mean two, So we
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: had a guy about six seven years ago that was
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: cutting boards in half and then kind of bulling him
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: together so his fish looked like they were too more
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: than they were.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: It was absolutely insane.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: There's been a couple of people that would take as
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: sharpie and try to mark up fish to where they
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: had different marks on them, but they are the same fish,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: and then make the.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: Tail, you know, not hit a quarter inch.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: But now the app has people look for the same
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: fish because every pitch has very unique markings and lateral lines,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: so they can't get away with that. And then we
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: had a guy in Texas actually that was cutting tails
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: and kept the tail of a fish in his pocket
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: and would lay it over this is a long time ago,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: would lay it over the fish and put his hand
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: over it so you couldn't the tail looked like it
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: was like this long. Uh.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: That was in a local tournament, so it was a little.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: Local ones aren't as as rigid is I would think
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: the big national ones are, but we've we've learned a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: lot in the last decade.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. Every time I think tournament anglers can't cheat,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: they figure out a new way to cheat. So I'm
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: very amused to hear that, now how far our tournament
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: kayak angler's traveling in a day.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 7: You know, honestly, this is going to surprise a lot
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: of people because it's anywhere you know, you'll have people
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: that will stick within a mile, but I've covered it
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 7: up to fifteen to twenty.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: Miles in one day.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: I would say the average is probably five to seven.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Man, what's your top speed if you just got to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: get from point A to point B? What's your top
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: speed in that thing?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: About six and a half. Very uh, A lot slower
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: than my ranger goes.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Now, Lake ten Killer offers small mouth and large mouth,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: and the upper portion lake is very different from the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: lower portion lake. So anglers have a lot of different
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: ways that they can find success or failure and approaches.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Fishery tell us about your winning strategy.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: Well, you know my strategy. I really wanted to fish
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: for points. You know, we we have an Angler of
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 7: the Year series, not if you for the championship. And
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: I only get to fish three and I didn't get
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: a drop event, so I was just going to go,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: you know. I went and caught some some giant small
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: mouth down south, had a really good pattern, kind of
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: cut a four and a half pounds small mouth, a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 7: couple three pounds small mouth, you know, a really good
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: fish from LA. But they were fairly obvious offshore spots,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: and I knew with the big boat tournament and one
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: hundred and thirty seven kayakanglers. I actually did not touch
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: my what I would call my a my best water.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: One time during the tournament, I went to an area
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: that I didn't I thought was going to get very overlooked,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: had some quality fish.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: I had to work a lot harder for him.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: And there were only four people at my ramp, so
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: I thought I made a huge mistake that day I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: got there, But it ended up working out fishing less
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 7: pressure of water, and uh it was cool because I
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: got to lock a big swim.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: Bay in my hands basically bull days and did a
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: little bit of.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: Late slipping on some steeper banks lead back to the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: creeks on the on the first day as well.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: But fishing that that overlooked water.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Was ste That's great. I read you say that your
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: two biggest fish of the tournament did not get in
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the boat. What happened there?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 7: Well, anytime, and if you got any listeners that are
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: swim bait people, you know in your swim bay fish
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: and sometimes they just don't make it to the boat.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: And I had on three casts my first cast down
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 7: this little spot at the Alful Creek jumped off about
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: a three and a half pound small mouth. Two casts later,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: I jumped off for a large mouth that would have
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 7: been big bass to the tournament. It was just over
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: five pounds, and the cameraman was on me, so he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: has a segment of photos from start to finish, and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 7: it was agonizing.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: I had to kind of relive that. You know, in
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: those tournaments, you think you lose one of those big
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: fish and you're just like, well, you know that that
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: was the one that was the one.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: I knew that I needed to probably get this thing
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: done so that, you know, it's really tough to stay
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: in it mentally after jumping off to big fish, But
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: you know what, when it's your time, it's your time,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: and I guess that was my time to get it done.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now before we do one minute fishing today, tell
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: folks what happened after our one minute fishing segment ended
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: last week.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: Well, I caught three white bass in a row.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: I swear it was y'all's music, Like that was a
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: tense minute of my life, like if we all get
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 7: inya or something just a little bit more too, because
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: I was freaking out with that minute. I caught three
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: fish in a row after that, so I was. I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 7: felt pretty discouraged.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Damn. All right. Well, I have a question though, Spencer,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: before we go there, Christine, if you keep on winning
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and keep getting these big checks and you all of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: a sudden you have enough money to buy one of
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: those big fancy boats, are you gonna switch from kayak
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: angling to just regular angling out of a fancy bass
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: boat or I'm asking what's the draw for kayak angling
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: and do you would you switch over to regular boat fishing.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: Well, I actually did make this switch last year. I
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 7: have a Ranger Alpha two away and I'm fishing in
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: the most competitive boat rail and in the country. The
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: bast Master opens, so I do do that, and I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 7: fished to this year, and I fish a couple women's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 7: only boat tournaments. I won my first one earlier this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 7: year just to kind of learn it, because honestly, the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: boat was pretty intimidating for me.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: But you know, I'll always be a kayak angler. I
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: always will.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 7: I'm doing the boat thing to hopefully inspire more women
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: to get into fishing out of the boat, But I'm
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: a kayak angler because it just fosters such a deeper,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: more intimate experience on the water for right, next to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: the water.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: It's quiet.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: I can get back in these creeks and these things
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: where the boats can't get and it's a lot more affordable.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: You know, when I was twenty one years old, I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: wasn't buying a sixty seventy thousand dollars boat. I couldn't
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 7: afford it. I was working three jobs. So I got
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: into kayak fishing because for me, you know, I just
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 7: that was successible for me.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: All Right, tell us about the body of water you're
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: on today, what you're fishing for, and how you're doing it.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: I started the morning at a little pond, and I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: told y'all I had bluegill on every single cast, but
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: I had no service, so I ended up low up
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: and falling down the lake Chipamaga. I do have some
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 7: experience here, but it's the midsummer. It's pretty sandy. I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: have one little stretch of rip rap right now that
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: I got here. In my first three casts in a row, again,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: I say you have a picture. I caught a decent
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 7: small mouth. I caught a large mouth and on a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: spotted bass. I don't know if I'm gonna be able
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: to do that on the cast of this, but I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: feel like it's my best bet and it's worth too
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: in the time that I had. It's a little paddle
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: tail right down that rip rap.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: And see what we can do.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, you're one minute of fishing starts when
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: you make that first cast. Christine is now I don't
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: know if she's gonna stand up today or not. Christine,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: how how often are you standing when you're fishing out
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: of your kayak?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: Probably ninety percent of the time. But I'm gonna sit
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: just because y'all will I don't think you'll.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: Be able to see me.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, and tell us about the rip rap that you're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: tossing this swim bay at.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: Well, there's actually a little spring that comes in right
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: here and it's it's way. Well, I was in the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: shade about a.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Half an hour ago, so my movie review went wrong,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: went too long.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: That's really really big.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: Okay, we're gonna see I'm getting ready to make that
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: first cast already.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: We're ready go for it.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, here we go.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: She's made her first cast. She just told us that
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: she caught three already in this spot.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Tell me when I'm that thirty seconds.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're ten seconds in.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: Well, hopefully with that big win under a belt. The
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: music doesn't affect her as much as it did last week.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Huh, it is dead calm out there today in Tennessee.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: You are thirty seconds down.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: She's furiously paddling and reeling, switching spots a little bit.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: She's backing up off the location. Twenty seconds to go.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: She just made her third cast. She seems like she
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: only finds a little part of this area productive because
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: she wheels a few times. Many brings it in ten seconds.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: She just made her final casts five seconds. Come on, Christine,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Oh didn't happen today. That's it for your one minute.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling, though, we'll have you back on
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: because the competitive spirit is clearly there.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Christine, you take this more serious than any of
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: our other anglers. Oh if only ever two minute fishing
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: and twelve minutes large mouth just thirty seconds too late.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Is that a large mouth or a spotted bass?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: Well, that's actually a little baby large mouth.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Little baby large mouth.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Oh you didn't have to fall very far.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: I'm not okay right now.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: One minute.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a lot of pressure. In the history
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: of this segment, I think we've had three or four
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: successful anglers. So it's tough and.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: You're welcome back anytime.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: That's right, Okay, before we go, any other sign of
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: the mythical ten killer lake octopus. You didn't see anything
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: strange on your sonar. Nothing tried grabbing your kayak while
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: you were out there.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: Held on, I didn't hear that last little farm, was it?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: It was not important.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, Christine. We'll have you back
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: on one minute fishing some other time.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Bye, no, thank you.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: We have one segment left. I think we're just gonna
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: punt on it though until our next episode.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit prep.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: It'll want to be saved for then. That means we're
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: at the end of the show. We're gonna do some
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: final fhill feedback. What do you do for Phil?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: The viewers are chopping at the bit to hear some
• 1:12:49
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• 1:12:57
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• 1:13:00
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  Speaker 3: Question for Phil do you actually have to work to
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• 1:13:41
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• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: like ooh, this song would be better, So I'll do that. Phil,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: you be the theater stage again soon this Christmas at
• 1:13:53
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  Speaker 3: and uh, I'm I'm looking forward to because my son
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: will also be in the show.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be there, Phil, favorite film of all time? Fill
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  Speaker 3: That Thing You Do. I love that movie. I think
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  Speaker 2: Randa, what do you think of that movie?
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  Speaker 4: It's been a long while. I remember enjoying it when
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: it came out. I was ten at the time. But
• 1:14:42
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  Speaker 1: Film?
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  Speaker 3: Clay and I have made multiple collabs. One of them
• 1:15:10
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• 1:15:21
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  Speaker 2: Well done, very very entertained by the the phil questions,
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  Speaker 2: were it again sometime? Thank you Annie, Thank you Randall.
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  Speaker 2: See everyone back here next week, same time, same place.
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