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Chuck and Buck 4-30 H4: Spencer Hawes, The Draftermath, One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: signed up again this NBA playoff season to join us
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  Speaker 2: every week talk about the NBA Playoffs. It is a
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  Speaker 2: former high school hoops legend here in Seattle, you dub
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  Speaker 2: basketball star and longtime NBA player. It is your favorite needle.
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  Speaker 2: Not name the space needle, it's the Spence needle. Spencer
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  Speaker 2: Hall's joining us here on Chuck and Buck in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 4: I am doing pretty well. It's sunning outside. You survived
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  Speaker 4: the winner. Yeah, things were looking at.
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  Speaker 2: Got your baseball team back to five hundred. That's not
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  Speaker 2: so bad.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, look at them just ready to give up again.
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  Speaker 5: It really got in.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I was about ready to give
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  Speaker 2: up on the first round of the NBA Playoffs. So
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  Speaker 2: when you were in studio, I think we were. I
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  Speaker 2: think I was pretty clear. I just thought there was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a lot of four game, five game series,
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  Speaker 2: easy advancements, very chalky, and instead we've had one hell
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  Speaker 2: of a first round. These have been very competitive, and
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  Speaker 2: we've got a couple of teams that we were really
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  Speaker 2: high on about a week and a half ago, all
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  Speaker 2: of us that are on the verge of being eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: So how much, first and foremost have you been entertained
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  Speaker 2: by the competitiveness of round number one.
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  Speaker 4: I've been entertained. I've been, you know, very a lot
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  Speaker 4: more focused than I thought I would I would need
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  Speaker 4: to be for for what we just what you just described.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be pretty straightforward. But
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  Speaker 4: there's series going six or seven, there's some underdogs in
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  Speaker 4: the driver's seat, and you don't that Lakers series just
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  Speaker 4: got interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, what are they
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  Speaker 2: going to collapse? Are they? Are they going to lose
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  Speaker 2: four straight to the Houston Rockets.
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  Speaker 4: I hope not, because I you know, I'm friends with
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  Speaker 4: J Jay and I'm pulling for the Lakers, which I
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  Speaker 4: never thought the words had come out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 4: But there's some there's some ghosts of rocket Pass that
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  Speaker 4: Ham that harm a few of us from that twenty
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  Speaker 4: fifteen Clippers team, and he's definitely one of them. And
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  Speaker 4: I know that the uh, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, that's probably creeping in.
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  Speaker 4: Although we didn't have a three to zero advantage, but
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  Speaker 4: it's still you know, momentum just in the playoffs, can
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  Speaker 4: share so quickly in one game and you make an
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  Speaker 4: adjustment and figure something out and get.
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  Speaker 5: Yourself back in the driver's seat. So yeah, they've got
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  Speaker 5: a chance.
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  Speaker 4: Now they've got to go back down to Texas. That's
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  Speaker 4: another four hour flight, and it's it's good for the fans.
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  Speaker 2: Laker can Well, there was talk I just heard this morning,
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  Speaker 2: and granted it was from a group of people that
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  Speaker 2: don't know much, but they were channeling other analysts and
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  Speaker 2: suggesting that maybe the Rockets are better off without Kevin Durant,
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  Speaker 2: which sounds like lunacy. And yet it's such a young
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  Speaker 2: athletic team that seems to be gelling right now and
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  Speaker 2: certainly played better without him. Then again, he hasn't played
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  Speaker 2: much at all in this series, So what do you think.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a chance that the Rockets, and you know
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  Speaker 2: inside that locker room, are kind of wanting to Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Durant to stay out of the series the rest.
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  Speaker 4: Of the way. You know, it's always I hate that
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  Speaker 4: that are off argument when the best player, you know,
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  Speaker 4: by a landslide on the team is out or hampered.
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  Speaker 4: They did the same thing with the Lakers, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when Luke is out and all of a sudden, they
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  Speaker 4: pick up their pace and the other guys are stepping up.
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  Speaker 4: But one thing it is allowing them to do is
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  Speaker 4: played in their strengths, which is, as you mentioned, their length,
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  Speaker 4: their athleticism, their youth. And I think that that is
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  Speaker 4: where they have an advantage with the Lakers. That is
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  Speaker 4: something that they clearly have been able to kind of
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  Speaker 4: hone in and take advantage of. But there's there's going
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  Speaker 4: to be some point in this series when it gets
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  Speaker 4: to the fourth quarter and it gets to be a
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  Speaker 4: half court game where they're going to be a shot maker.
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  Speaker 5: And I think.
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  Speaker 4: Despite their success and their adjustments in all last two games,
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  Speaker 4: I still don't I still don't see anybody on that
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  Speaker 4: team and really emerge in that capacity. You know, if
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  Speaker 4: they're making these games eight, ten, twelve point margins, you
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  Speaker 4: can get away with it. But if it's going to
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  Speaker 4: come down to the last two minutes, I would be
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  Speaker 4: willing to bet that they would hope that they'd have
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  Speaker 4: Katie out there.
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  Speaker 2: So who's going to win it? Lakers are Rockets? Who
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  Speaker 2: you taking at this stage?
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  Speaker 4: I'm going with history. I don't think the Lakers are
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  Speaker 4: gonna lose four in a row. But it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: going back, Like I said, it's that trip to Texas
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  Speaker 4: the year that we squandered this series versus the Rockets
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  Speaker 4: up three to one. You know, they're long flights. You're
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  Speaker 4: kind of countyer chickens.
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  Speaker 5: Before they hatch.
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  Speaker 4: Now, all of a sudden, you got to fly back
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  Speaker 4: halfway two thirds away across the country.
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  Speaker 5: You're going back into the arena, and the.
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  Speaker 4: Pressure doesn't dissipate as the series goes on and the
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  Speaker 4: other team starts making up ground.
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  Speaker 2: Fencer Oz is with us here, former NBA player of course,
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  Speaker 2: right here from Seattle, and he's going to be joining
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  Speaker 2: us throughout the NBA playoffs to break it down. Before
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  Speaker 2: we get to the Nuggets Timberwolves, let's talk about the Spurs,
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  Speaker 2: who are awaiting the winner of that series is can
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  Speaker 2: you explain to us, as somebody that is has been
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  Speaker 2: a big man in the NBA, just what a wembin
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  Speaker 2: Yama does on the court because somebody's just watching the game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, certainly he seems to dominate on both ends
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  Speaker 2: of the floor, but can you explain to us that
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  Speaker 2: kind of length, that kind of athleticism, just how disruptive
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  Speaker 2: that is in an NBA game, not.
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  Speaker 5: Really, because I've never.
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  Speaker 2: Seen I was expecting this, like you have no idea, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: no me either.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the thing that's so scary about him, authentically is
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  Speaker 4: he's still really and I don't mean this as a knocke,
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  Speaker 4: it's just he's twenty two years old and he's still
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  Speaker 4: he's still developing.
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  Speaker 5: On that end.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't really I can't say he doesn't know what
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  Speaker 4: he's doing, but he doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't have a go to move.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't have really any spots on the floor that
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  Speaker 4: when it kind of gets muddy that he goes to
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  Speaker 4: where he's like, all right, no matter who. If I
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  Speaker 4: got a size advantage, I go here. If I got
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  Speaker 4: a quickness advantage, I go here. He's still kind of
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  Speaker 4: kind of winging it on that end of the floor defensively.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's arguably the most disruptive player certainly that
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  Speaker 4: I've ever seen. You know, I never saw will or
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  Speaker 4: Bill Russell play or Kareem, but you see guys that
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  Speaker 4: when they get within seventeen feet of the hoop with
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  Speaker 4: an advantage that normally, you know, you just go to
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  Speaker 4: groom and see what happens. They're just he's completely disslating
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  Speaker 4: any opponents from making a decision when they get inside
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  Speaker 4: of the not even the retrick there. It just kind
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  Speaker 4: of like the free blow arc. And so that's that's
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  Speaker 4: one thing that gives them an advantage that no other
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  Speaker 4: team comes close to offensively. The pressure he puts on
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  Speaker 4: the rim and his ability to stace the floor vertically
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  Speaker 4: is arguably unprecedented. But I'm you know, what does he
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  Speaker 4: like to do, Where does he like to touch the ball?
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  Speaker 5: What's his doting moved? He's still figuring that out.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's the part it's so scary, is
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  Speaker 4: that he's pointy two, Capitain's twenty one, Harper's twenty and
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  Speaker 4: these guys at all at different points of the first
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  Speaker 4: round had coming out part even more or less. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, they got through that series four to one,
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  Speaker 4: They get some rest, they get a time, They get
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  Speaker 4: a chance now to really kind of dive into the
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  Speaker 4: tape for whoever comes out of that battle that we
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  Speaker 4: will see continuing tonight. And yeah, I don't I still
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  Speaker 4: don't really know how to put into words his impact,
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if anybody quite knows how to
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  Speaker 4: quantify it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'd love to see him against Joker an entire series,
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  Speaker 2: but he's got to get there, and he's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to win three straight over the Timberwolves. They're without
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  Speaker 2: Ann Edwards right now. But this Io Di Somnu has
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  Speaker 2: just been fantastic for Minnesota. You really like the Nuggets,
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  Speaker 2: and that's when the Timberwolves we're going to have ant
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  Speaker 2: playing the entire series. Uh. But so I'll ask you now,
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  Speaker 2: considering the circumstances we're under, what are your feelings about
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  Speaker 2: Denver versus Minnesota at this stage?
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  Speaker 4: I think the series, well, certainly from Minnesota, gets decided tonight.
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  Speaker 4: I think if Denver goes back there and and can
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  Speaker 4: figure out a way how to steal that game, and
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  Speaker 4: I still think they're in the driver's seat. Just you know,
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  Speaker 4: you lose too. You lose your best player far and
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  Speaker 4: away in the Timberwolves and Anthony Edwards, and then you
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  Speaker 4: lose your point guard and your best shooter. That's that's
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  Speaker 4: a lot to overcome in any circumstance, certainly in a
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  Speaker 4: in a playoff series.
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  Speaker 5: But I think I think tonight.
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  Speaker 4: So to need to look at that game like a
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  Speaker 4: game seven, because if they do have to go back
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  Speaker 4: as shorthanded as they are and have to go back
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  Speaker 4: to Denver for a Game seven, I think they cart
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  Speaker 4: were pretty well sacked against them, But I mean that
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  Speaker 4: series has turned out to be a lot more intriguing.
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  Speaker 5: I think that most of us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, Spencer ass is we us talking to
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  Speaker 2: NBA playoffs. Another former local Seattle star Paolo ben Caro,
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  Speaker 2: he and Kate Cunningham put on a show last night
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  Speaker 2: forty five points each. Did you enjoy that matchup last night?
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  Speaker 5: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm obviously pulling for Paulo in the Magic,
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  Speaker 4: but that was It's always fun to get to see
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  Speaker 4: you two guys that were number one picks, two guys
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  Speaker 4: that are young faces of the franchise that are going
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  Speaker 4: through this the next evolution of their career in terms
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  Speaker 4: of getting to the playoffs and seeing what playoff basketball
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  Speaker 4: looks like as as any player, but certainly as the
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  Speaker 4: featured offensive threat, and both of them stepped up last night.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Magic obviously made a good push. I think
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  Speaker 4: when you put yourself in a hole like that, it's
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  Speaker 4: difficult in any game to.
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  Speaker 5: Come back from.
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  Speaker 4: But incredible shot making by both of them, and uh,
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  Speaker 4: there's there's another one that probably most people, uh mulf included,
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  Speaker 4: didn't expect much out of it, you know, going back
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  Speaker 4: to the Orlando for a game six that similar to
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  Speaker 4: the Timberworld, I think for them they have to consider
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  Speaker 4: I must win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was thinking about that last night.
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  Speaker 2: Like obviously a week and a half ago, I thought
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  Speaker 2: that's an easy Pistons, you know, probably advancing five kind
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  Speaker 2: of series. But then I was thinking about it last night.
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  Speaker 2: When you'll go back at the beginning of the year,
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  Speaker 2: I certainly thought the Magic were going to be better
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  Speaker 2: than the Pistons. I think both are young and rapidly
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  Speaker 2: improving teams, and they both have very bright futures. But
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  Speaker 2: I would have told you at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: year that Orlando's the better team. So I'm wondering, should
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  Speaker 2: we be that surprise that that Detroit's struggling considering how
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  Speaker 2: good Orlando looked on paper when the year began.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I see a lot of similarities between the Timberwolves
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets and that series.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, everyone.
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  Speaker 4: Talks about matchups and what both.
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  Speaker 5: Teams are flawed, talking about the Magic and.
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  Speaker 4: In the Pistons, but what the Magic have is is
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  Speaker 4: an extreme amount of size and athleticism that they can
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  Speaker 4: throw at the Pistons, which is their strength. And what
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  Speaker 4: they really took advantage of during the regular season is
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  Speaker 4: just the ability to bully teams and and kind of
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  Speaker 4: wear them down. And when you run into an opponent
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  Speaker 4: who can match that, and I think, in Orlando's case,
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  Speaker 4: almost exceed that. Across the board, it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: thrown them. It's it's thrown them. The Pistons in a
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  Speaker 4: tough position, and I think they last night they adjusted,
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  Speaker 4: but it's still it's not a great matchup for them,
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  Speaker 4: just like the Timberwolves are not a great.
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  Speaker 5: Matchup for the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 4: And it's maybe series probably more interesting than anyone expected.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about just the game in general,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to use Cleveland Toronto as my prism
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  Speaker 2: for that. Cleveland wins last night. They're up three to two,
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  Speaker 2: and yet there were seventy four three point field goals
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  Speaker 2: shot out of one hundred and seventy possible shots that
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  Speaker 2: were taken last night. A lot of people have had
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  Speaker 2: a problem with the amount of three pointers. There's talk
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  Speaker 2: throughout the course of the season that maybe they'll change
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  Speaker 2: the three point line going forward. Do you have an
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  Speaker 2: issue with how many times teams are opting for the
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  Speaker 2: three in the modern NBA game and is there anything
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  Speaker 2: that you would do to change it.
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  Speaker 4: Well when they're not going in. Yeah, I think the
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  Speaker 4: previous game Sunday ten am that maybe maybe a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people miss was one of the ugliest pasketball teams
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  Speaker 4: I've ever seen, and they just kept kept doubling down.
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  Speaker 4: I think it ended a first quarter. One team hadn't
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  Speaker 4: made one and missed ten or eleven. The other team
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  Speaker 4: was two for fourteen or something like that. And when
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  Speaker 4: they're not going it definitely looks ugly. That's what Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: has kind of built their program all around, is their
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  Speaker 4: ability to, you know, really one through five when they
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  Speaker 4: have mobile at the five, have guys that can they
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  Speaker 4: can pour it.
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  Speaker 5: In from distance.
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  Speaker 4: And I saw something interesting Phil Jackson Pine yesterday and
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  Speaker 4: he said he's been he's been clamoring too wide in
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  Speaker 4: the court, he says, for ten or fifteen years to
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  Speaker 4: make it to make the three point line kind of
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  Speaker 4: a true arc and extended twenty three eight in the corners,
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  Speaker 4: Which that's something that I'm not a fan of the
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  Speaker 4: four point line or you know, I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: you move it back for or the idea of stretching
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  Speaker 4: it out and making it kind of a true rainbow.
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  Speaker 4: I think with the evolution of not just the skill
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  Speaker 4: set but the size of the players, I think that
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  Speaker 4: would be something interesting to look at. Providing more space
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  Speaker 4: in the half court and you know, taking the corner
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  Speaker 4: three from what they say is the second most valuable
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  Speaker 4: shot on the floor and maybe kind of balancing out
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  Speaker 4: the percentages from there.
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  Speaker 5: I think that would be intriguing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh but you'd have to take out a couple of
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  Speaker 2: rows in each stadium. And I just want Timothy Chalomay
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  Speaker 2: to be that close Spencer. I can't have him further
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  Speaker 2: away from the action.
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  Speaker 5: That'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: They can figure that out, now, I'm with you. In Boston,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they shoot as many threes as anybody. They
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  Speaker 2: want a championship, but playing this way, so I'm not
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  Speaker 2: telling people not to do it, certainly, and yet they
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  Speaker 2: seem to be I mean they're in this Philadelphia series.
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  Speaker 2: They seem to live and die by it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if they're hitting, they beat anybody that they face. But
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  Speaker 2: if they're not, then they suddenly become vulnerable to Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 2: and Philadelphia's outplayed them for a larger percentage of this
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  Speaker 2: series than I think Boston would care to admit. But
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  Speaker 2: can they sustain it? Can they finish off the Celtics.
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  Speaker 2: They would have to win back to back games in
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  Speaker 2: order to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Well they have, and they did it for a stretch
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of the series, either without indeed or with him,
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  Speaker 4: you know, coming back after an appendix surgery on a
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  Speaker 4: you know, expediated timeline, to say the least. So I
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  Speaker 4: think that that last game, they clearly were going to
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  Speaker 4: him early and often, and he exploited a mismatch, a
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  Speaker 4: substantial mismatch that he has against any of the three
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  Speaker 4: centers that Boston tried to throw at them. So I
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  Speaker 4: think that one's gotten interesting. Bustin's had the six ers
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  Speaker 4: number going back a couple of decades in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: and so this this one will be interesting to see
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  Speaker 4: what adjustments Boston makes, because you know, when they're not falling,
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  Speaker 4: that allows Philadelphia to take advantage of some of their
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  Speaker 4: youth and athleticism, especially in the backcourt and getting out
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: and transition. And so I think that one, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: in Boston advantage Celtics. But if Philly can figure out
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: a way to sink that one out or you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: that gets sorry in Philly, then it gets uh, you know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: we get what we all want, which is as many
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Game sevens as possible.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Maybe the Hawks can give us one.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You are all Hawes family members. Do you have to
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: like the Hawks a little bit because of Uncle Steve's
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: time with them?
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're We're all kind of They're not on the
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: top of the list, but if all things are equal,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: we pull from it. Okay, Hawks for ship.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So are you pulling for the against
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the Knicks? Are all things equal in this series?
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: No, I'm I always read against the Nicks, so I
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: would be maybe not time they're in the finals, but
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: certainly uh, certainly a neutral a neutral franchise.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I thought you were going to get your
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: wish then, because I'm like man Atlanta's athleticism, they might
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: be too much and for whatever reason, these last two games,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's like something the next figured something out about them,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: and so it looks like they're going to fix this tonight.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling they're going to close them out.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: What's your gut on the Knicks Hawks series? The rest
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: of the way, I.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Would have to agree with you. I think that Brunson's
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: kind of figured it out. He's he's playing like the
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: all all NBA player is their length, and some of
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: the matchups they were throwing at him early in.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: The series seemed to You're never going to stop.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: A guy like that, but just rough him enough that
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: obviously it gave him a chance and they and they
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: got some wins. But I think as they a great
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: player because they make adjustments over the course of the series,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: and he seems to be a pretty good groove and
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: then the rest of the guys behind him have kind
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: of figured out how to, you know, how to play
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: for their strengths.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Very good? Very good. Did you like the lottery they
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: do tanking lottery format that they're floating around they're proposing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Do you think that'll work?
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I still I got to do a key guy because
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I still don't completely understand it from a thirty five
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: thousand view, the idea that the worst teams at the
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: end of the year are going to have to play
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: for their lives to not lose their advantage with the
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: thing pond balls is. I'm all for that. I think
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: if it lifts to the you know, eight through twelve seeds,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: then trying as hard as they can to tank. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: don't know how you solve that, but I think anything
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: any change in that regard is is.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: A welcome sight.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: And I applaud the League commissioner for obviously acknowledging and
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: not a minor issue that they had with uh, the
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: fan bases of these teams and doing something about it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: And if it works, great, If it doesn't, at least
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: they've shown uh a flexibility to try and combat it
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: and you know, move on to another idea.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: If this doesn't solve for it, may.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, all right, man, Well, thank you very much.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, awesome stuff. We appreciate it, and we'll bug
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you again next week.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, are you coming out?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I might do that? Yeah, I might do that. All right? Good?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You want to be at the dogs after dark?
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Huh, it's going to be a beautiful night for wealthy football.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Get a little look at that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Look at you, you guy, You're you're just you're just
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: embracing it, all right, healing of the audience. Oh yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: there we go. All right, man, Well, we'll talk to you.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Soon, all right, thanks for having us you guys.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: All right, Spencer as joined us here, a man for
• 22:01
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• 22:03
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• 22:07
  Speaker 2: up next though, it's time for us to get caught,
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  Speaker 2: Andrew's hearst today And for Ashley Ryan, it's why he
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: didn't know to play the drafter Math music.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Oh whoops, it's okay, that's my fault.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not angry with you at all.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's fine.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, I feel so ashamed of
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: my son. No, I understand. It just points out though
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: that you can try to avoid it. You can run,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you can run for and you can hide. There is
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: no escaping the drafter Math.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: You time that well with the current bit too.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Uh huh build up. Yeah, so yeah, you're caught in it,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: just like the rest of us.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: I try it. I tried to get us out of it. Yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you can't get out of it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: No, you can't. You can't. I mean, I mean, we'll
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: be out of it by the end of the week,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that's fair. But through tomorrow we're caught in the drafter math,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: caught the after math of the NFL Draft and a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: lot of the stories that are starting to come out
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: about different players, and uh, I just want to run
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: through a few. I've gone through each team in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: NFC West this week, and obviously we got caught in
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the drafter math all day long for the Seahawks on
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Monday morning. But here we sit on Thursday, and we
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: haven't really looked at the league end players and people
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: who've got caught in the drafter math. And let's start
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: with this. Let's start locally with the Seahawks. According to
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Brady Henderson, and he's you know, he's got he knows
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: a thing or two, does a good job over there,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: just a couple of things. Yeah. He says that the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Seahawks plan was to take Chris Johnson, the cornerback out
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: of San Diego, State, that was their player that they
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: had targeted at thirty two, and then if he was
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: going to be off the board, the second plan was
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: to trade down and try to get Jadari in price,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but there'd been so much movement, so fewer trade partners,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: and also this fear that maybe some other teams were
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: going to be in between wherever they dropped, that maybe
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: some teams would try to get ahead of them at
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the top of round two. So they decided not to
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: mess around with it, and that's when they took Jadarian Price.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But their original plan was that Chris Johnson, the cornerback
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: out of San Diego State, was their guy.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that definitely is some draftermaths.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's some draftermath because if you take him, you don't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: get Jedarian Price. And then, according to Brady, they didn't
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: have another guy rated higher than a fourth round value
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: really at running back in the entire draft, so you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: if you don't get Jadarian Price, you're not taking a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: running back, which I did float out beforehand. I knew
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: they were going to end up not getting one of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: these either edge running back, corn or corner I knew
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: they I knew they were gonna knock down one of them.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I predicted running back in the end. I just thought
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that the board wasn't gonna fall their way to get
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a running back. And yet they decided, since our top
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: corners off the board, let's get the running back, and
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: now we don't have to worry about it. One last
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: thing to worry, as Forrest Gump says, one last thing exactly.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: And there are some people who are like, yeah, you
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: could have gotten jeddari in price later. I'm not so
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: sure that you could have won it all the way
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: to sixty four and he would have been there.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's saying, you couldn't have waited until maybe thirty four,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Like you would have moved down with an entire overnight
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: for teams to get knowing that maybe the Seahawks want
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that running back, let's get out ahead of them and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: let's go ahead and grab somebody. Sounds like it would
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: have been worth it if we have Chris Johnson to
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: try to, you know, not worry about the running back position.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: But he's saying that they drafted there, and I believe him, Yeah,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: they drafted him there because if they feared that if
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we moved down any further, that we could get leaped
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: and we would be without the running back. So then
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: we strike out on the cornerback that we wanted and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the running back that we wanted.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Niners could have taken him at thirty
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: three because they ended up taking a running back just
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: the pick after that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And they need someone to fill for Christian McCaffrey when
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: he's done.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, who else got caught in the draft?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Or how about mackay Lemon, who I pretty much spent
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: an entire month of the draft miss holiday season spreading
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: cheer and calling mackay Lemon a turd. Well, now all
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, here I am caught in the drafter
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: math anders and I'm starting to feel a little sympathy
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: for him. I guess he's gotten roughed up a little bit,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: and I think he's got apparently it's kind of bothered him.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the brightest guy in the world.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he had some calculated plan to
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: be a jerk during the draft process, And now it
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: kind of sounds like he's a little bit surprised that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: he's gotten so much of this backlash. He went apparently
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: on an interview. Micah Parsons was interviewing him on a
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: podcast and made fun of him, and it kind of
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: apparently made him sad. And so he's been a little
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: bit sad to find out that people thought he was
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a turd through this entire process, because he didn't know
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: he was coming across that way, even though he definitely
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: he was. And so he's doing a little backpedaling right now,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: but he can't get out of the way of the criticism.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: He keeps running into it, and I guess it's kind
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: of hurt his feelings. He taught the drafter Matt.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: It's a little weird one because I think everyone I
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: think originally when kind of viewing him as a prospect
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: only he was like, man, this guy's special. A lot
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: of people thought the Rams could have taken him at
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: thirteen to be a part of that receiving corps. That
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: was one of their options there. But and then as
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: the draft got closer, it's like, yeah, well there is
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: some character flaws. They're not like massive issues, I don't think,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: but just he doesn't, like you said, doesn't come across
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: all that like charismatic. But you know, it is kind
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: of weird how it's kind of flipped again because he's like, oh,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: is that really hell? That was sounding to everyone, And yeah,
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: he's kind of just realizing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: It might not be that bright of a person. Probably not,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because he just really does kind of
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: feel like he's caught off guard and bothered by it now.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And it's like, you had a month to fix this,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and you never did. And I know that they're given
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: advice on house to say, yeah, they are given advice
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: there now whether or not he was paying attention, whether
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: or not he was a good student and was receiving
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: this advice, or if it was going in one air
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and out the other. I mean, I realize you don't
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: have normal jobs. I don't really have a normal job.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I've never really done a normal job interview in my
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: entire life. It's always been hey, are you available, we'd
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like to have you. That's so I don't have a
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: normal job I've never had a normal job interview process
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: myself either. But you are going on a job interview.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yours just lasts a month and you got to put
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: on a leotard and run forty times and things like that,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and yet it is a job interview, and so note
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: to everyone, every young player. If Demand Williams is listening,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: any husky is listening right now, you know when this
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: process starts, present yourself as a professional, because, as we
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: talked about in our last hour, they're looking for character
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: more than they've ever looked for it in the past,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: not only to build you up if you have character,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: but to take you down if you lack character. And so,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he wasn't paying attention in class,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: maybe he's not capable of absorbing good information, but he
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: definitely feels like he's regretting the way that he conducted himself. Yea,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: even though he ended up fine, ended up in a
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: great spot in Philadelphia, ended up a first round pick
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: twentieth overall, but his feelings kind of seem to be
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: hurt that everybody he's now realizing how many people were
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: criticizing him, yeah, or the way he acts.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: It's almost like, I don't know how I feel like
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: a lot of these quote unquote, you know, character flawed
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: people coming into the draft.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much of it is.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: They don't aren't aware that that's how they're coming off,
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: versus like I just believe that I'm that good of
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: a player, and I don't have to worry about this,
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I feel like him
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: is it's definitely the former where it's like, oh, I
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: wasn't aware that this is how I was coming off.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: He's trying to, like you said, backpedal a little bit,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: so I don't know.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you one piece of advice, young man,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: because I'm willing to forgive and forget. I'm willing to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: give you a second chance. This is great advice. I've
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: been given it. We've all been given this advice in
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the past, and so maybe you need to hear it.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: And I hope you're for this time listening. Whenever you
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: are lemon make lemonade.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Excellent advice. You're welcome to Drafter mask.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Ruben Bain got caught in the drafter math as well.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Ruben Bain looked like he was the angry guy that
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: he slid too far. But now he's all smiles and
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: he's like all over the place. I mean, he's taken
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: photos and he's all over the place and he's all
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: smiles again, and I'm glad. I mean, I suppose I
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: get why it was hard to go through the process.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And you were wondering, are they really passing on me
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: because of that car accident that I had nothing to
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: do with. Are they really passing me because I have
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: short arms? When I've proven that I can play this
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: game no matter what length of my arm. So maybe
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: you would stew on it. I mean, you thought you
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: were going to be a top ten pick and you
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: flipped a flip to fifteen. That's about forty five minutes
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: worth of time that passes before you find out where
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you're going to go. But I always hate seeing the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: guy that's angry on a night where dreams are coming true.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It's not like you slipped to the fifth round, But
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: given a little bit of time, everywhere he goes now
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: he seems to be smiling happy. He really did land
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: in a great place in Tampa Bay, a pretty good
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: team that has a chance to get a lot better,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: with a defensive minded head coach and probably somebody that's
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: just gonna unleash you and let you do your thing.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I think you ended up in a great situation there.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, sure you have to live in a city
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: filled with mullets and waffle houses, but you did land
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: with a I think a pretty good situation there in
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and like you said, the defensive minded head coach
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: who loves to utilize blitzes, it's it's gonna leave him
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: a whole lot of availability to get some one on ones.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: You know, he tore it up in college, so I
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: can't wait to see what he does there.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Just survive the drafter math. It's hard, the winds are rough.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I tried to get away from it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: I couldn't.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: The sentiment gets in your eyes.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: You choke on toxic filmes.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: But if you can survive the drafter math, you come
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: out a stronger person to see the other side. Yes,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you do, and their better days are ahead of you.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: But it's been known to swallow up people whole.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Definitely can.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we take serious the drafter math. The alright,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: one last thing to close out our show. Next on
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ.
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  Speaker 5: R f M.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: All right, final segment here of the radio program. I
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: don't know, there might be cultural differences in all of this.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Your wife is Argentine or is it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Argentinian Argentinian Argentine Argentine.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe it's just that American thing. I don't know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but yeah, But when you have a conversation with person
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that you live with and you see all the time,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: and you have conversations all the time, I am very
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: capable of saying, Okay, there's nothing really going on, just
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: checking in, I'll see you later. Yeah, And yet the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: conversation just continued through no effort of mine.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Is that checking in?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Is that just like a couple's thing?
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Is that?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Is that a cultural thing? Is that an American woman
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to do that? I'm just curious does that happen to
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you as well? When you really you're really just like okay,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: just checking in. I'm at work, busy radio, live radio
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and the whatnot. And yet, hey, by the way, I
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: saw snailed it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Does that happen to you?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: No, it does not.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Actually, if anyone extends conversations, it's me, I'm the call.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Oh it's not gender, not a gender, it's a gender thing.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It's not even a cultural thing. Yeah, But I'm also
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: like the individual, I'm also.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: Very aware of like, Okay, when the conversation's done, it's done, Like, okay,
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: we're done.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It was just top of mind. All right, we're getting ready,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell, chriskt coming next. But we do have time
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: for one last year when you.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Got back there, did you see the news about the
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: possible new owners for the Seattle Seahawks.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You know what, I did see something about that, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I read into it that it was gonna be the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: guy in Portland. That's what I read into it. If
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I did, I misread that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: Well, the new thing that came out just this morning
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: from Front Office Sports, I believe is that buyers are
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: beginning to line up for the Seahawks. Multiple sources say
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: they've heard two very familiar names that are considering bids,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: and that is Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook and Tim Cook
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: of Apple.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, no and no. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: know for both of my answers, no and no, I'll
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: take Balmer. And I know he's kind of in the same,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like trillionaire category, but I think he's passionate about basketball,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: and he's passionate about Seattle.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: These guys just want to out of their pocket.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: No.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's already got the Clippers, so I don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: think he's more interested in the Seahawks. That sounds like that,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: but I'm just saying I'd be more interested in that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not really interested in a trillionaire. That that person
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I want somebody that is going to reproach
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: it passionately and they kind of need to make money
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, in order for it to be a
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: sound investment for them, and not somebody that just can
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: buy it with pocket change because they think it'll be
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: cool and they can invite their friends to their owner's suite.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want that type of person. I I mean,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Tim Cook, does Tim Cook strike you?
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Is?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Like, No, I'm gonna win basketball game.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: We're talking at Seahawks, by the way, not Sonics.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Oh this is it is a Seahawks yees. Yeah, all right,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Well I'm I'm in with Balmer.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: I'm not in on either of Ghost Okay, yeah, Zuckerberg,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: no either. I just can't get Social Network in that
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: movie out of my head.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like that jerk who stole his idea
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: from people exactly.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And like there is a kind of a balance
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: because you definitely want to have someone I get Seahawks.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, the NFL is a salary cap league, so
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: you're gonna spend up to the cap in terms of
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: the money on the field, but what you do off
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: the field also matters. And they do the whole NFLPA
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: like uh anonymous survey about everything around the organization, the facilities,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: the travel and all that stuff. You want to have
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: someone that's passionate and you know, maybe like usually the
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: multi trillionaires are not as passionate about the specific thing.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: But you also want to have someone who, by.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: The way, their excess of money doesn't come in handy
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: when you have a salary CAx. That doesn't matter exactly.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: So so someone like Paul Allen was the perfect balance
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: who had a bunch of money but also was very
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: passionate about the Seahawks and you know, growing the brand
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: and like doing the right thing, and he wasn't being
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: a good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Stupid about no spending and look at me, no, no,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: look at me, I'm rich. Yeah.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: So I think that that's why the Ballmer kind of
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: makes sense because he's in that same category.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I like the Balmer idea. I don't like either of
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: those ideas anyways, even though I would like to see
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: just for this reason and this reason alone, if Elon
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Musk was in charge, I would like to see what
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the vMac becomes. It'll be like a spaceship, like we
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: will all get sent to the training. Hey, I know
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: you're just a talk show host, but I'll send my
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: spaceship to you. And then because you can't drive your
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: car here, I won't allow it, So you've got to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: be on my space pad. That's so good.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll do interviews from matters because he can't spend
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: anymore on the players because you have a salary catch
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: so he would have to spend he'd elsewhere.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: He'd have to spend it elsewhere.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, who knows what kind of treatment we would get. Yeah,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: we get like space jello from Mars, That's what we
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: would be eating.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: So yeah, how how important is having an owner who
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: you know, by all means does the right things, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: you just don't like them as a person.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Would that matter to you?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling if we knew all the owners,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't like any of them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: A great point.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So no, I just want you to run. I want
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: it to be important to you, but not so important
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: that you meddle too much. I want you to say
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I'm invested. I want this to be a championship. I
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: want to be a part of it. But I'm going
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: to hire football people to do the football things and
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about me meddling. Yeah, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: know people. I will hire good people to do football stuff.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: And that's it. That's what that's that's what I would. Yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: all right, My one last thing. We were just talking
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: about the drafter Math draft. One of the things that
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't get to in the drafter Math was Caleb
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: downs and Malachi Lawrence who were taken by the Dallas Cowboys.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And I think I think Dallas did a good job.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are applauding them for that. But
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: then again, I think very highly of Caleb Downes. But
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: we can say whatever we want. And this kind of
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: bleeds into your topic about owners. Yeah, and you can
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: sit there and you can roll your eyes at Jerry
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Jones and you can thank the heavens that you don't
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: have a Jerry Jones running your team and uh and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and you know you maybe you have the philosophy. Whoever
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: this next Seahawks owner is he as long as he's
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: not Jerry Jones like, But there is no denying that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys are in a category all by themselves of
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: teams that twenty two year old college football stars want
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: to play for. It when do you ever see a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: cowboy player, be a cowboy draft pick, be anything less
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: than over the moon about it? I mean over the moon,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: not just yes, I made it to the league. This
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: is a team, thats Dad, No it is. I mean
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: they have been a three ring circus the last five years,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: and yet Caleb Downs looked like his ultimate dream came
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: true even though he fell out of the top ten.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: We had guys angry that they fell out of the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: top ten, and Caleb Downs is like, thank you lord,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I'm a Dallas Cowboy.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: It's weird, isn't it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: And Malachi Lawrence he was at home, but his celebration,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, Julian Neil did it when he got
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: picked by the Seahawks. That was maybe the most enthusiastic
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: response that we saw. And I think that anybody that
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: gets drafted by the Seahawks is excited about it. But
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: there's no comparison to the rest of the league. People.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: These players won a play for the Dallas Cowboys, no
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: matter how screwed up you think. Jerry Jones says, the
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Jones family, the organization, these kids get more pumped to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: be Cowboys than anything else in the NFL.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I mean Are they cowboy fans?
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Is that why? I don't know?
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: Or is it just like I play for the biggest
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: brand in the American sports.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I have heard and maybe they've heard
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: that Dallas Cowboys players in Dallas just get treated like
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Kings Kings. Yeah, yeah, And even though I think Seahawks
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: players do as well, it's not the same reputation. It's
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: almost like you're above the law. Like Biggaran McCracken said
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: in Kingpinn Finally, I'm above the law.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: It's like you're above the law. Like I know the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Cowboys had a lot of issues with the law when
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Michael Irvin and Troitman all those guys were there, But
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: imagine how much they got away with ye, you know
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And so I don't know. I think
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: there's this feeling of that's shared among football people. You
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: want to be a cowboy for us me, you want
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: to be a cowboy.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: But then do you find people like DeMarcus Lawrence who
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: he wanted to be a cowboy though yeah he did,
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: but then towards the end of his career it was like, Eh,
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get out of there. I want to go
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: to somewhere he wants to win a Super Bowl.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, but he reluctantly left. Sure, it was just
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: one of those things of I don't I'm running out
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: of time and this team's not even were close, and
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I'm tired of the dog and pony show built around
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Micah Parsons that's been happening. By the way, follow the
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: thread on that. I mean what I mean. Micah Parsons
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: might not have been exactly everyone's cup of tea with
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. It seems like everybody was glad he's gone. Yeah,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I might say something about him as talented as as
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: he is, but I think that was more DeMarcus Lawrence.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think demark Lawrence wanted to be a cowboy for
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: the rest of his life. But he also but he
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: wanted to win a Super Bowl more and he thought
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: this broken down operations moving further away, I'm going to
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: go somewhere where I can win. Yeah, And good for
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: him to have the foresight to see what was being
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: built up here in Seattle. Absolutely, it's not many people
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: were seeing it happen that fast. So anyway, there's something
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: about it. Hugh Mill will tell you there's something different
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: about being a Cowboy and all of these college kids
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: they've heard the stories and they want to be Dallas Cowboys.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: For better or worse, they want to be Dallas Cowboys.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and then I guess we talked about like
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: the other stuff that they spend on day. It's top
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: class everything, like at the facilities, at the field, like
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: you are playing for the biggest brand in the NFL.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, maybe there is something to that. These guys
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: just want to be a part of that. I guess
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: that's more important than winning sometimes.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Let's put it this one on the surface as I'll
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: make any sense, but there's obviously some something to it. Yeah,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: otherwise it just wouldn't happen. Every single draft where whoever
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: gets taken by the Cowboys is like, oh I'm a
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: cow wis true? Yeah? All right, that'll do it for
• 45:02
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• 45:04
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• 45:07
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• 45:09
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• 45:11
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• 45:14
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