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OK, without further ado, welcome everyone to Banger Management,
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the Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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Today is our Part 2 of the Playoff Primer episode.
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It is going to be the day. I remember you saying 2024 years
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ago, give us some choices but. Last last week that I would do
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it. So let's let's Joshua rewinding.
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Not nice. That was the best one ever.
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OK, welcome in to Bangor manager the fantasy occupied castle.
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Jake, Josh and Kevin, today is going to be the day that they're
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gonna throw back to you. And also just so happens to be
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our week 22 to 24 playoff primer episode.
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It's Part 2 in our series. We did weeks 21 to 23 last week,
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but we know a lot of you have weeks 22 to 24 for your fantasy
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playoffs. Small tidbit to add here.
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I guess I'm kind of prefetching a little bit today.
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I know Kevin's the perfect king, but.
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If I share my crown. Thank you.
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So ESPN or below depending on your platform has wait, what?
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I can't hear you. What did you say?
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I just said you bow to no one. Literally the best movies ever.
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Yeah, in the discord, comment what your favorite movie series
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is because and if it's not Lord of the Rings, explain why.
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So. Some, some platforms have the
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last week, which is week 24 and Yahoo broken up into two weeks.
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It is a two week long week, basically week 24.
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It's really tough to plan for. We'll kind of get into more of
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that later, but essentially if the last week is broken down
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into two separate weeks, 2 weeks are in your platform.
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Keep in mind that this can be relevant for those weeks as
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well, because like Week 25 would essentially be the second-half
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of Week 24. How many times you see the word
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weak? Yeah, definitely mentioning
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because I think I think it's ESPN that has like a week 25,
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which was just very weird. But what they did was they this
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Olympic break got divided. So it was like like in Yahoo,
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we're currently still in the week 18 or whatever it is, but
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for them it was like there in between weeks and the previous
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week ended before the Olympics and the other weekends after.
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So I think the timing still lines up for like the last three
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weeks of the season is just that they're named differently.
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So but yeah, week 22 to 24 right now is covering the Yahoo
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Fantasy week. So 24 is, I think I forget the
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exact date, but it's like 10 days or something.
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And if those are playoff weeks, please moving forward next year,
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look to move it to weeks 21 to 23 or whatever the equivalent is
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next year. Because that last week of
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fantasy, there's a reason why most people try to avoid it
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because players are getting benched all the time.
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Stars are getting, you know, held out.
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Anybody's little dinged up there gonna be rested before the
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playoffs. So it's really frustrating when
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you experience, you know, your star players like not being in
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your lineup because it's the end of the season and they don't
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need to play anymore. So that's why just no.
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Well, that's perfect, but that's not the word I'm looking for.
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Don't do it next year. Don't do.
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It. Talk to your Commission.
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Don't do it. Yeah.
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Just add on to that, it's like April 6th to 16th, that's when
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the last week 24 is. So what the other platforms
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probably are doing or just doing a week, the week 25 is April
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13th to the 16th. So yeah, let's proceed and get
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into our general playoff strategy before we dive in.
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Just do it. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
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No, I wanna watch Transformers. Alright, on that note, let's get
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into some general playoff strategy.
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So the reason we talk about playoffs this early, I mean this
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is not that early, it's coming up in a couple of weeks, but
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we've been talking about it all throughout the season is because
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at the end of the day, you want to maximize your games play
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during the playoffs. Sudden each matchup you have a
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decent games advantage over your opponents.
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Best way to guarantee wins is to stack the odds in your favor
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through games played. Everyone knows it.
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You get into a week, any week in the season, you play against the
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guy, you look at the games played for the week and he's got
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10 more than you and you're just like, well, this week's cooked
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like on to the next one. So what you want to do is stack
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is that that's you every playoff week.
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So we're talking games played, then collecting player.
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When collecting players with good playoff schedules through
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trades or free agency, you also want to take into account the
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off nights. Otherwise the after games played
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aren't going to mean anything. So kind of like the calculation,
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quote UN quote is for however many bench spots you have.
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That's how many off night guys you want to have on the busy
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nights so that you're avoiding benching anyone.
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And then lastly, when you're making trades to improve your
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playoff schedule, it's OK to give up slightly more value in
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the trade because of a player which is like an actual .2
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points per game, but they have half the games of someone else.
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Then you're going rather the guy with twice the amount of games
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in the playoffs. So these are all kind of general
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layoff things to look at. And when we're talking playoff
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schedule, we're talking different players to target and
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all that. This is kind of the goal.
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Well said. Any profile changes before we
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dive in? Yeah.
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I was, the only thing I was going to say is if you listen to
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week 21 to 23, a lot of like the concepts are going to be
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similar. We're reiterating so, but still
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going to be valuable, valuable insight.
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And then obviously the players were going to discuss and
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everything is going to be very different.
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So really make sure you're taking into account what your
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playoff weeks are and you listen carefully because the teams that
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we talked about 21 to 23 or 22 to 24, some of them may overlap,
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but for different reasons. So it's important to just keep
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in mind, you know, would playoff format is yours and put more
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emphasis on that, but still just valuable content talking about,
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you know, all these players and how we feel about the rest of
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season. Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah. One more thing I guess I'll add
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to this is that the week's 22 to 24, it's tough to, I mean, star
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players will be benched and stuff like that.
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And if they're out of the playoff race, that's also kind
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of a tough situation. But those teams fighting for the
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playoffs schedule, I've said this a lot like this, the week
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22 to 24, those players are and more valuable.
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So like, if New Jersey goes on a run, you know, they got a really
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good playoff schedule week 22 to 24.
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Jack Hughes could be an absolute monster if he doesn't need steak
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between now and then, you know, there's a lot.
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Of that requires a knife. Yeah, he's in Italy.
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Probably a lot of pasta. Generally pretty safe.
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Yeah, he's like steak. He's eating tea.
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OK, I do not know. I did not expect that.
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Josh, you caught me off guard. Alright, I think our points have
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been. Just don't lactates because
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he's, you know, lactose intolerant.
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Of course that was Let's move on.
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Yeah, I think that's a good call.
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Alright, so let's start with our schedule.
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Optimized playoff team. So we've got them ranked in 4
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tiers. So we've got the we'll call
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Steer. This team has 14 games in the
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span of these three weeks. Again, it's four weeks, but
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three fantasy weeks. Then we've got the 8 tier ones
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that have 13 games over that span.
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We've got B just mid, which is like the 12 game teams.
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And then we've got the bad teams are the ones with 11 games.
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So there is only one top tier team weeks 22 to 24 and that is
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the San Jose Sharks. They have a 347.
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So that's seven games in the finals is absolutely absurd.
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They also have plenty of off nights.
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The way we kind of scored these teams is we we gave a point for
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every game they have played and then we gave like .25 for off
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nights. So in their rankings then they
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have the office taken into account.
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But for the most part, at the end of the day, we're looking at
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games played. San Jose is the one team with
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14. Then we've got some eight-year
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ones. We've got St. in order of most,
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at least off nights. We've got Saint Louis, Colorado,
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Ottawa, Vancouver, New Jersey, Philly, Florida, Montreal,
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Tampa, Seattle. I know there's a lot of names
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for you, but we are going to go into each one in depth and talk
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about their players. So that'll be an easier way to
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remember all of them. Then I won't talk about all the
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middle teams because they're just kind of mid.
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I'll talk about the the bad teams schedule wise that we've
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got. This is in order from most to
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least off night. So the last one I mentioned is
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going to be the worst one and we've got Buffalo, Toronto
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Islanders, Washington, Vegas, Utah, Edmonton, Minnesota.
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So that's the list of teams and their different schedules.
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And like I said, we're going to go into deep dive each one.
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So I know that was a rapid fire list for you guys, but we'll get
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into it. Poor Minnesota and Edmonton.
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Even in week 21 to 23, there were two of the worst teams were
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playoff schedule doesn't get any better than weeks 22 to 24 if
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you like. There's still just two of the
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worst teams I have for the playoffs.
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Yeah, and so many fantasy stars on those teams.
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So. So many of them on my team.
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Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, it's tough, but
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we'll we'll get into those and talk about what to do with them
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because some guys are just too good to, you know, trade for
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less value, even if they're on a bad schedule team.
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So, should we dive into our top trade targets for these good
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playoff schedules for Week 22 to 24?
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Let's Yeah, we're gonna go through a lot of names, guys
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doesn't mean that every person on this list is a must buy for
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your team, but all of these guys are on great playoff schedules
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and should be kept in mind for a potential upgrade if you end up
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having guys that should be traded away after.
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Yeah, exactly. And we're not talking about guys
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who are free agent pickups on these teams.
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Those are going to be more streamer guys.
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But this is specifically guys targeting trades.
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Let's get into it. We'll start with San Jose, which
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had the best playoff schedule for Week 22 to 24.
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Obviously you got the best player in the NHL, Ballerini,
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way better than Austin Matthews. Um, we've got Will Smith, Fresh
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Prince and we've got William Eckland.
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Really, I think other than those three guys, I mean like the
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fourth guy you would list this to Foley, but I don't think he's
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worth trading for. I think that's like, you know, a
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guy you could pick up in free agency, honestly, in a lot of
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leaks, like 40% owned and hasn't been very good piece of pickup.
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Oh, sure, you know, you're right.
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That's that's my bad. I forgot actually I put sure
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what ahead of Eckland. I wouldn't put Eckland on this
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trade forward list, to be honest, and I have excellent, so
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I'm trying not to be biased here.
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I know Josh wants to trade for him because he's goaded, but it.
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Really depends on the player who will be on my roster.
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In most leagues Eckland is not once and not worth processing,
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but is most definitely better options available on your
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waivers. But I feel like who, who are you
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even able to trade for celebrating at this point does
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often matches. Does Austin Matthews get it
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done? I mean, you'd have to throw in
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like amphibian Sutherland or something, You know, like, oops,
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no, but like, OK, that's a that's a good conversation for
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sure. So I mean, first of all, we
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haven't gotten to the bet. I mean, we haven't gotten into
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the details of the bad schedules, but are we 2024
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Toronto is a bad schedule team. So if these are your playoff
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weeks, I definitely would try and do Matthews for celebrity if
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you can. You might have to throw in a
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small plus, but I mean, Matthew has been playing well.
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So I think and he's like he's got that first round pick
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pedigree. So I think that it's a it's in
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the realm of possibility. I mean, it really depends on the
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celebrity owner. If they think that what
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celebrity has been doing is way too good and that he'll slow
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down, then you can get it done one for one.
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If not, then you have to throw in a little piece.
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But I like that a lot. What names are you like?
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I feel like this point it's more of a question of where you not
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willing to trade for celebrity because I feel like you're
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willing to trade almost anyone in the league for him, right?
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I was going to say, you started the top.
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It's McKinnon, McDavid, Dry, Seidel.
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I feel like those, even though without the playoff schedule,
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yeah. Would you do that, make David
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for celebrity in with with Week 22 to 24?
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That's three extra games. You know, I mean not one for one
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like I would consider doing like celebrity Plus, but really good.
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Plus, come come playoff time, who are you gonna wanna have on
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your team? Like you just gotta pick one
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it's for. Free, David.
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Yeah, even with the games difference you would do it.
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Yeah, I mean, look, I have him in in our league and like you
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said, regardless of week 21232224 people playoff
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schedule, right. And I'm willing to listen to
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offers because he has that bad playoff schedule.
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But at the end of the day, like he can do what any other player
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can do. And like, you know, three extra
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games like McDavid can do that in three fewer games, you know.
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So like you really have to get the value.
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And like, I love Pellegrini also have him, you know, and I think
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he's gonna be amazing rest of season and he's been top five in
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both even like actual NHL and fantasy for most leagues.
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But at the end of the day, like he's still a second year rookie,
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right? And you know, is that risk of
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does he slow down a bit? Like he's not gonna be.
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Bad. He slows down a bit to.
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Be like that said exactly right. Like it's not saying he's gonna
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like suddenly become someone you don't like who's not amazing,
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right? But like the way he's been
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playing top four in like most leagues, There's a risk there.
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And the risk is extra high when the guy you're taking away is
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Connor McDavid, right? So I wouldn't do that.
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I wouldn't either. When we get into the bad teams,
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we could definitely start giving like a more specific outlook for
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names and stuff as to who going to trade for celebrity.
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But one thing I want to say on Eckland, he had a decent finish
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to the year last year. I wouldn't say I would want to
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trade for him, but I didn't like a plus in return.
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Not bad. Yeah, he's he's 32% owned in
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Yahoo. You could probably pick him up
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most places, but with a good playoff schedule coupled with
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the fact that he is a big player on this team, he always gets
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decent minutes. You know, when he does produce,
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I would consider picking him up or getting him in return in a
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trade. One of those like for a better
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playoff schedule returns. In our league of record, like
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it's very deep with nobody. The waivers that are like kind
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of valuable in any sense that it's not gonna be just a stream.
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Eckland is. If I dropped them, you'd be
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immediately the best player on waivers in my opinion.
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And he was. The issue with him is that his
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deployment was really volatile going into the break, but also
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his production going into the break was like not bad at all.
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Like he had like a point streak. He was getting a lot of assists.
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This just got bumped down to P2 and he got bumped down to, he
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got bumped back up to P1 and they ran 5 forwards.
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So it's just going to be interesting to see how
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everything shakes out after the break.
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But his he should be in this top six.
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That's like his bread and butter and power play 1.
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And I think if San Jose is making a push to make the
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playoffs, I think he could have a strong end to the season.
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But it's still risky enough and the ceiling is the floor is low
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way lower that I think you would be giving up probably better
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asset to get in or is probably on waivers in most of your
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league. So.
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Yeah. I think that like, honestly,
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with how things have been going in San Jose, like in terms of
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like deployment and power place, I think that no one other than
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Cabrini and maybe Will Smith is like certain to be power play 1.
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And I think pretty much just celebrating.
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I think the coach is just and apparently isn't even bad.
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I don't know why He's like constantly like messing around
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with it and doing all sorts of crazy stuff.
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But I don't think there's anyone who's safe on that power play
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other than celebrity. So it is something a risk you
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take on if you want to like acquire any of those other guys.
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Where do we we can move on, but where do we how do we rank
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Smith? Like what's if you if Josh, if I
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told you Will Smith in your head, what's your projections
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for him like points, shots, power play points, if those are
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the main things that he's hitting, you visualize him as a
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player. I mean, I don't think he's a
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point per game player that he's been like for a lot of the
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season. I see him as like, he could be
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like a .85 though. Like I think that's like totally
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reasonable, close to three shots.
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And then power play, I think it's just super, it fluctuates a
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lot, right? I know like as a celebrity
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owner, there was like a month where his monthly average for
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power play was like .1. And then like in the last month
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it's like .6. So like and, and they just, you
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know, so they're very volatile power play.
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And I think that on average he'll probably be like .25 point
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3, something like that. But they'll decide they'll be
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lows. .93 points per game point .29 power play points .25 shots.
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Yeah, that's on the season. Yeah, .3. 2.5. 2.5 Sure, yeah.
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So. I'll just tell you that
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percentage there, yeah. Exactly, Yeah.
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So that's kind of what I see him as, like a .85 point 252.5 type
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of thing. Yeah, but it's pretty.
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Before we move on, I think we should finish up on Celebrity.
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Are you trading Caprice Office Celebri?
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I am. I am especially like we're
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talking 2224 Minnesota. Is that terrible schedule.
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Um J, are you training? Please offer for celebrating.
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I, I think so. And this is kind of like I, I
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don't think San Jose's lock at all.
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I think they're gonna be fighting for a playoff spot,
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which is pretty cool considering where they were last year.
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And I think that they're really gonna go all out.
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Of course, they're gonna give celebrating the opportunity to
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keep leading this team. Kaprizov.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they just rest him in the second-half
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of Week 24. I thought you said arrest him.
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I was like, whoa. No, if they give him rest, yeah,
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let him chill. Yeah, I will say that like
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throughout the whole season, like Jackie specifically
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mentions like these teams fighting for a playoff spot.
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And it's never more important than we if your league goes to
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Week 24 because of the resting. So I think specifically for San
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Jose, like you mentioned, there's no way they're gonna
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look like they're going to be fighting for a playoff to the
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very end. I think they're going to get
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one, but they're going to be fighting for it.
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So I don't see celebrating getting arrested.
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So Minnesota. Surely.
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Yeah, exactly. They should be top three in
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their division. Certain teams, even when they
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clinched, they still wanna fight because they're playing for
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seeding as well. They're playing for the
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playoffs. Do you think one of them is
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going to want to play Edmonton if they can avoid it in the
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first round? Like it is definitely not a
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guaranteed to sit for Kaprizov, but I'd say the likelihood of
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him versus Albania is much higher.
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And what are some? Other also just like mentioning
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who we think is going to get bench rest of the likelihoods.
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Something important to mention. So before we move on, I just
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wanted to hit the like names for celebrity like other first round
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guys like where do you draw the line?
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Like obviously we said, we said OK, I my car's been pretty like
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bad lately, honestly. I don't.
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I don't read too much into it. To me, it's just like it's still
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in my car. I expect him to do what he's
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gonna do. Yeah, like Mccarson pretty
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badly. He's been like .85 like points
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per game over the past month. Yeah, but I mean, he also has a
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really good playoff schedule. It's not as easy but it's only
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like 1 game off so. I'm taking.
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Toward mainly, I think I'm talking mainly try to send from
20:25
the bad playoff schedule people. I think like a Jack Eichel could
20:29
be a good one. Wouldn't be surprised if that's
20:31
impossible to get done. We had him on a would you rather
20:33
and I think it was pretty close a few.
20:35
Weeks ago. I like that.
20:36
I like Jack Eichel more than celebrity just because I think
20:39
he has the safeness of I don't think he's the difference.
20:43
But with the playoff schedule difference, I think you can get
20:46
that done. Yeah, Quinn Hughes probably too.
20:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good playoff schedules.
20:53
Yeah, yeah. OK, so let's go to Saint Louis.
20:57
So some guys worth #2 training for here.
21:01
Yeah, exactly. We've got Robert Thomas, Jordan
21:05
Kyrou, Dylan Holloway, Justin Faulk.
21:07
I mean, there's really it's kind of slim pickings over here.
21:11
Robert Thomas is I think a great by low look, he's not the type
21:14
of player that we usually like, right?
21:16
His his kind of archetype is the we call it the Robert Thomas
21:19
archetype, right? Like those like Dylan Strome
21:20
type thought players. Well, you know where they like,
21:23
yeah, exactly where they're like a point per game usually.
21:28
But we'll do absolutely nothing else for you other than face off
21:31
wins if your league counts that. And the fact is when the guys
21:34
that wanna like that having an off year and off stretch like
21:37
Thomas's been, then they're really providing nothing for
21:40
you. So and he was injured.
21:41
But like, I think all that makes it so that he's a great buy low,
21:45
I think could get him for really cheap price in most leagues.
21:47
And look, I don't think we expect him to go back to being
21:50
like, what was he like last year?
21:51
Like 1.15 points per game, something like that.
21:54
Um, I think he'll be lucky to be point per game rest of the
21:57
season. But I think it's I think it's a
21:59
possibility and the fact that you can get a guy who could be a
22:01
point per game with the playoff schedule like this, for how
22:03
cheap I think you'd get Thomas, I think it's an opportunity
22:06
there. Yeah, I think Thomas is really
22:09
the main guy that I tried to acquire, especially if you're a
22:12
points league. I know we're Bangor management
22:14
here. We're focusing on the bangers
22:15
and Robert Thomas always has that kind of like thing against
22:17
him, right? Like he's not really good in
22:19
bangers because he's so 1 dimensional in the points.
22:23
But I think the ceiling is high here and it's just about like
22:26
your risk tolerance and what your price is.
22:27
Like if you have to pay close to what is usual price is, I'm not
22:30
really interested at all because there's so much risk there.
22:33
But if you're asking if you can give somebody that's pretty low,
22:37
then it'd be way more enticed. Also, you might get traded to.
22:40
I'm putting it out there like he's one of those names like
22:42
teams are looking for a pure see, like when Saint Louis
22:45
decides what they're doing, he could be a name that's like,
22:48
alright, let's see what we can do to get him on our roster.
22:51
I just like, I'd like it more if you get traded, I think.
22:53
I just really don't see it happening like I feel like.
22:55
It's one of those things, but. Yeah, I mean his name.
22:57
Is not impossible. Yeah, his name is definitely out
23:00
there. I think they want a ton in
23:02
return for him, which is fair because he's there like he
23:03
hasn't even though he has playing it like it this year.
23:05
He's like an A1C and he's like a good one see in the league.
23:09
And I just don't think anyone know what's the price that they
23:12
that they want in Minnesota just emptied the cupboards for Quinn
23:14
Hughes. Do they have more more prospects
23:16
and things in the in the coverage of?
23:18
Walstead between Bennington, who becomes sick after the Olympic
23:23
break. Man plays one game, gets the
23:25
shutout and then you know, maybe when Robert Thomas and see what
23:30
happens. Look, it's it's a possibility.
23:32
His name is definitely out there.
23:34
I don't see it happening. I think if anyone is likely to
23:36
get traded off this team is Jordan Kairu.
23:38
But but Thomas's name is definitely out there.
23:40
So that is something to keep in mind.
23:41
It's funny because like I do agree that he should get better
23:44
if he gets traded to another team, but then it also kind of
23:46
defeats the purpose of a of the playoff schedule, right?
23:48
So it's something that definitely keep in mind.
23:51
Just let just throw in one or two names for Thomas.
23:54
Would you do? I mean in the same tree of
24:00
player. Yeah, I would.
24:02
I would do that for the playoff schedule boost because I feel
24:04
like. They're like similar like Nick
24:08
Schmaltz for him. Yeah, I would do that.
24:11
I lowkey feel like you may be able to get Thomas Plus for that
24:16
one. Schmaltz has been sick.
24:18
And Stroma has also been sick. There's.
24:20
Honestly, I don't know if I'd do that just because I know the
24:23
playoff schedule is better, but like, I'm way more confident in
24:26
Washington and being able to deliver results and then what?
24:31
Yeah, that's, that's fair. I mean like.
24:34
And also with these, I also want to keep in mind, like with these
24:36
guys that are very points, 1 dimensional, I showed the
24:40
playoffs 2 extra games doesn't add as much of a punch because
24:44
you're not missing out on like a lot of the extra like banger
24:47
categories, right? Like I'm getting zeros anyway.
24:49
So if you have three games or four games, like still going to
24:52
be 0 type of thing, you know what I mean?
24:53
Yeah. So you're obviously one more
24:55
exposure to potential points, but the bird in the hand is
24:58
worth more I think in that case. Yeah, but I mean, in terms of
25:01
like Strum specifically, like a few weeks ago people were
25:04
considering dropping him, right? Like he's gone on.
25:06
I mean, we recommended him as a bill or at that time people were
25:09
talking about. And then now he's been like
25:11
really good and I think he is really good, but like it just I
25:15
don't see him. And I do think that if their
25:17
schedules the exact same, I would take strum over Tomas.
25:20
So I agree on that. But I don't know if the
25:22
difference is big enough that I'm not willing to take the
25:24
playoff schedule boost, if that makes sense.
25:26
But also, I could totally see Robert Thomas getting shut down
25:30
because the Blues are not in a playoff spot and he's been
25:32
banged up the whole year, whereas Washington was trying to
25:35
buy Panarin. Like they're not trying to just
25:37
get cooked and be like, alright, that's it you got on their team.
25:39
Gonna try until the very last second if there's a .1% chance
25:42
the players gonna be trying for you.
25:44
Know yeah no, I, I agree with that definitely that's another
25:46
thing to consider um we've been hearing kinda like rumors a bit
25:50
or talks from like around the Olympics and people saying that
25:53
like some of these Olympics players are gonna get are
25:56
playing through injury and they're gonna get shut down
25:58
after the Olympics for this season if they're on teams that
26:00
are like nowhere near the playoffs.
26:01
So obviously, like I think Elliot Friedman said that and
26:03
then everyone starts speculating, like who are we
26:05
talking about here trying to think of?
26:06
Where? Exactly who's the injured guy on
26:10
a team on the Olympics? Who's on a team that's not in a
26:13
playoff? And so a lot of speculation
26:15
going on. So I yeah, that's another so
26:17
that kind of like so you were talking about like, you know, we
26:19
always want in these weeks specifically, you want teams
26:21
that are fighting for the playoffs and it goes both ways,
26:23
right? You don't wanna team that's too
26:24
good because they might rest their players.
26:26
Don't team that's too bad because they might just like
26:28
shut down their place for the season if they're even like
26:30
slightly banged up. So just another thing to keep in
26:32
mind. So like final answer on Thomas,
26:34
like who's a guy that that you'd be like really happy to trade
26:36
him for? Like, is Nick Small someone you
26:37
want to trade for him or you feel like he's too much more
26:40
valuable than Thomas? What about?
26:41
I wouldn't need to have some sort of like he's healthy after
26:46
the Olympic break and there's no issues, like, you know what I
26:49
mean? I don't know if I'd want to
26:50
trade for him during the Olympic break.
26:51
That's the thing. I would but you need it but I
26:54
would be like for a lower price. That's it.
26:57
That's it. Like can you trade?
26:59
Would you trade Nudge? I think I would trade that with
27:03
Hawkins. Yeah.
27:03
And I'll, I'll lowkey feel like that could even happen now or as
27:06
if he's healthy. I feel like it's definitely
27:08
harder. That's one of those like right
27:10
in the middle. What about like?
27:14
Yeah, I'm in Garry's next too. Much better than Thomas.
27:18
Yeah, I just think Minnesota that power play, like obviously
27:20
that's the risk of them trading for someone, him getting bumped
27:22
off. But right now, like they're
27:23
firing on all cylinders and he's also a bangers beast, like
27:26
right, like he shoots, he hits. It's hard for a guy like.
27:29
You trying to turn into a Thomas and just a big well, I think.
27:32
It's hard for me to to conceptualize who would want to
27:34
give up for Thomas because I'm just lower on Thomas than most
27:36
and I just, I don't really like that archetype of player
27:39
anyways. Like I never drafted him.
27:40
I never have those guys on my team.
27:41
Because that's it. I don't wanna be paying like a
27:43
high price. I like him as an as an ultra
27:46
Bilo. So like I think that's why it's
27:47
important to throw out some names.
27:49
Like I liked the Nugent Hopkins one.
27:50
I thought that was good. What about like?
27:52
Matthias Samuelson. I don't know.
27:57
Yeah, I would. I would do that.
27:59
For Thomas, but you. Probably like 20 to 24 for.
28:01
Sure, honestly. What about What about John
28:03
Tavares? He's been really bad.
28:07
To the virus. And he's got a bad schedule.
28:11
Yeah, but I can get you like more shots alone than than
28:15
Thomas will, even with the bad playoff schedule.
28:17
Yeah, it's you know what I mean? So I.
28:19
Think that's also look same vibe, yeah.
28:20
Exactly. Except Eric next on a better
28:22
team like I prefer. Yeah, for sure.
28:24
Also, I wasn't like I was chatting with Matisse Samuelson
28:27
and now I'm not feeling like, would you do that, Kevin?
28:34
I just don't. I just don't want one of my
28:35
purity slots to be Robert Thomas.
28:38
So is Thomas worth more than Samuelson?
28:41
Yes. Do I want to use Samuelson to
28:43
buy him? Probably not.
28:45
I avoid is my weakest position and Simonson's goaded.
28:48
So in concept I had to start my team doing a redraft.
28:52
I'm obviously drafting Robert Thomas Moore, but from my team
28:54
specifically in league record with how I'm built right now, I
28:56
just. Don't.
28:56
Yeah. But in general, in general, to
28:59
people out there who don't have your specific team structure, I
29:01
would absolutely trade Samuelson for Thomas if.
29:03
Yes, yes, absolutely. Been on fire for points like
29:06
that's not gonna stay that people are asking me like, Oh my
29:09
God, is he like the next Darlene or whatever?
29:11
Like like nothing has changed in his deployment.
29:14
Like, he plays a lot of minutes like a really.
29:15
Good. Don't know if you like but I've
29:17
been watching some Buffalo games I don't like.
29:19
No disrespect, but every single one of his goals is the
29:22
fluffiest thing I've ever seen. Picked up like he's shooting
29:25
them like. The goal, that's it like he
29:27
shooting them like the goal line and like they're going like
29:29
under the armpit or he shooting them like from like the blue
29:32
line. But like on a rush, like there's
29:34
two defenders in front, he takes a random reshot and it goes like
29:36
under like the glove or something.
29:38
It's like, no, I mean, these are good shots.
29:39
You know, these are like these are like this just does not
29:42
sustainable. But let's move on.
29:44
Let's move on from Thomas. Yeah, we talked about Kyrie as a
29:47
possible trade guy. I think he's just kind of hated
29:50
by the coach for some reason and by the organization.
29:52
I don't know when this turn around felt.
29:54
I feel like it came out in orbit last summer when we started
29:57
hearing the pro trade rumors and then it kind of got compounded
29:59
over like how bad of a season he's had, whatever.
30:01
But he did turn it on a bit before the Olympics, and I still
30:05
think he's a really good player. Like if he's given the
30:07
opportunity, I think that he's a good player.
30:08
He can get you nearly point per game with three shots on goal
30:11
with the right deployment. So if he gets treated, I'm very
30:14
interested, although obviously that negates the playoff
30:16
schedule if he doesn't get traded.
30:18
I still, I still like him as a boy.
30:20
The only the only issue is that he was a bit hot before the
30:22
Olympics. And again, same with Thomas.
30:24
I don't wanna be paying for any of these Saint Louis assets.
30:25
I don't wanna be paying anywhere near full value.
30:28
Like if you have to pay full value for them, move on to
30:30
another team and find a team that's less risky.
30:32
You know, like if you're taking on the risk you should be
30:34
getting, you should be allowed to pay less.
30:37
Fabian Zetterlund or Dylan Holloway.
30:39
Alright, Dylan Holloway, let's talk about that, right.
30:42
So he I mean, he should be back after the break, but there's
30:45
kind of no news about it. He came back for one game and
30:48
then either reaggravated or just wasn't ready yet and kind of got
30:51
shut down for the Olympic break when I got a few more weeks of
30:54
recovery under him. I'm hoping and and I kind of
30:57
expect him to be back after the Olympic break, but this could be
30:59
one of those cases right where they just shut him down because
31:02
they're like we have nothing to play for.
31:04
So this is another one like I feel like my kind of like take
31:07
away with all these Blues guys is I think all of them have
31:10
decent upside, but I'm not willing to pay for that upside.
31:14
You you pay like you pay because you pay a dirt cheap price to
31:18
get them. And then if you get the upside,
31:20
it's a huge win. And if not, you're fine.
31:22
And if someone's like, I'm not willing to trade them unless you
31:24
give me more than just be like, alright, then keep them.
31:26
That's exactly how I feel about them.
31:28
That's really well put side. It's there, but I'm just not
31:32
willing to pay for like the price for it.
31:34
Yeah, I don't know. The guy from Couples Retreat?
31:37
Encouragement, Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
31:40
Great movie. OK, let's move on to A to a more
31:43
exciting team. Um, no offence to the Saint
31:45
Louis Blues, but a little offence.
31:48
So next we've got Colorado. Got some some familiar faces
31:52
here. We got Nathan McKinnon kill
31:53
Makar, Marty matches Brock Nelson didn't include any of the
31:57
other non power play 1 guaranteed guys because I think
32:00
they're just always shuffling those lines and there's no one
32:03
that I wouldn't want to trade for any of them with the
32:06
expectation of power play one because I don't think any of
32:08
them holds it rest of season consistently.
32:10
I think they'll have shots at I'm talking about locking in
32:12
Landis Cognatus, even all of them get some chances there.
32:16
Like I think I think these four guys I mentioned first, like are
32:19
pretty locked in at this point. But that fifth spot, I think
32:21
it's just a merry go round of whoever bed in our feels like
32:24
giving it to at any given time. The Best Buy low here is by far
32:28
Kalakar. I think he spent.
32:30
So he's like other than McKinnon, he's like the best guy
32:33
on this team. He's top eight pick every year
32:35
and he's been so underwhelming, especially with how many
32:37
defensemen have been over a point per game in the past month
32:40
and he's not one of them. I think there's a lot of guys
32:43
who can trade away to get my car right now.
32:45
Um, the only don't tell listening, but I wasn't really
32:48
tough thing is the name value but.
32:50
Still, McCarthy of the Yeah, I mean, produces slightly less.
32:53
People are gonna be like, I'm jumping ship, you know?
32:54
No, but I mean, there's guys who've been playing so well like
32:57
you talk about, like Evan Bouchard, right?
32:59
I need to get that done for sure.
33:01
To me it's Bouchard, Quinn Hughes, probably Werenski in
33:04
week 22 to 24, Dalene, like those are the four names.
33:08
And maybe Darren Radish just because like even though he
33:12
still has a good schedule, I still rather kill Makar like
33:14
those guys. I feel like if you can concoct a
33:17
deal where it's like a one for one or like you're giving a
33:20
small plus and you get kill my car, like these are deals that
33:23
I'm absolutely trying to do for not only the playoff schedule
33:25
but also just getting a better. Player yeah, this is a mix of
33:28
like improving playoff schedule and also just degrade by low.
33:31
Yeah, I want to focus more on nature and Nelson, I feel like
33:33
Macar and McKinnon, like you're just so good that it's gonna be
33:36
hard to get them anyways. Like for McKinnon, if you have
33:38
McDavid, Draisaitl, like these are the type of guys I'm trying
33:41
to flip from again, because I don't know who else gets it
33:43
done, to be honest. And like these have the lesser
33:45
schedules. We said in the beginning of the
33:47
season, if you're listening to management in the offseason, we
33:49
told everybody with the one-on-one in your drafts, take
33:51
Nathan McKinnon because come playoff time, you're going to
33:54
want the extra game that's compared to Connor McDavid, even
33:57
if they're so close in value. 1 slightly better.
33:59
One extra game of one of those guys is so influential over the
34:02
other. Absolutely, Yeah.
34:05
So I think that's a good point. Let's focus on the other two
34:08
guys. So who are you sending for?
34:10
Let's start with martinis. Like who are we sending for
34:12
Nyhus? He was.
34:13
Pretty quiet and this post trade is that LA poster and yellow
34:18
broken leg injury out for the season type of thing.
34:22
See, I don't know if that makes Panarin worse because he's
34:24
playing with less good players now too.
34:26
But um, I just think the ambiguity of the situation.
34:29
We haven't seen it in game yet. I know what I'm gonna get from
34:31
natures. I know what who he's playing
34:33
with and what the playoff schedule is.
34:35
I would do that. Yeah, I like I like Panera and
34:39
one would you send in these weeks we send tech Thompson.
34:44
I don't think so. Even with the difference playoff
34:47
schedule. Yeah, just so good.
34:50
He's like. And I kind of in the same token,
34:53
I was debating Nielander because I feel like no underwater in the
34:57
same conversation. I know Kevin hates me.
34:59
I. Think change is better than the
35:00
lender? That's what I'm saying.
35:02
I think change is better so I probably would do knee Lander
35:04
but wouldn't do tage I do. I think the the points upside
35:09
for the extra games is too high and like you're getting a lot
35:12
more extra, you're getting a lot more points from from a lot more
35:16
shots from Tage. But I still think that nature
35:19
has it in his bag to be Elite 2. The only worry is like, are they
35:23
going to be rested? Because Colorado, like we know,
35:25
is like arguably the best team in the league, right?
35:27
So. That's a good point.
35:28
All these Colorado guys might get arrested.
35:31
And I don't know why. I just feel like Colorado like
35:32
they don't rest their guys. Is that crazy?
35:34
Like I feel maybe Maccari gets arrested.
35:36
Maybe they did Von Taves get rested, maybe like.
35:39
Nelson's not rested as in they'll keep them out of the
35:41
game, but they may just give them less ice time like.
35:44
I mean, I'm still happy as long as he plays the game.
35:46
To me. I'm worried about like being
35:48
held out because he has a nagging injury or whatever.
35:50
You. Know, but I'm less happy with 13
35:53
minutes of nature as opposed to 18 of tage.
35:56
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
35:57
You know what? I.
35:57
Mean with discrepancy, I wouldn't worry about that.
36:00
Honestly, I don't know. I don't see teams don't really
36:02
do that if the guys playing they're gonna play him his ice
36:04
time. It's really just either they
36:06
keep him out or they play him. And I kind of agree.
36:08
I feel like like Warren McKinnon are the two biggest sit
36:12
candidates. And I think Devante is a good
36:13
shout. Also.
36:14
Not that it's a fantasy relevant for the most part, but but it is
36:17
the type of player where like he's an important player to the
36:19
team and he's been dealing with injury issues all year.
36:21
So why not just rest him before the playoffs?
36:23
So I think they just and Nelson are probably safe from the
36:26
resting. But if Colorado have been on a
36:29
skid right before the the Olympic break, so it kind of
36:32
brought them a bit closer to the second, second and third Dallas
36:36
and Minnesota and their division, if they're close to
36:38
them, they're going to keep there's more less chance of
36:40
resting right, because they want that first in the division.
36:42
They want first in the NFL, right?
36:44
So, but if they just turn it back on after the Olympics and
36:47
they just get so far away where there's really nothing to play
36:49
for, I think the the chance of resting as much higher.
36:52
But ignoring that, I, I agree with the I think Thompson and
36:56
Elander for for nations. I like those and I think that's
36:58
an example of what we mentioned earlier, giving up slightly more
37:01
value for a better playoff schedule.
37:03
I mean, look, you can make an argument that has better than
37:06
either of those guys. I think those guys are probably
37:08
a bit better. But like, I think it's
37:10
negligible enough that with the playoff difference it's worth
37:13
it. Someone in the discord I just
37:15
recommended they trade like this trip was on the table for them
37:18
because they were they were doing some playoff optimization
37:21
for week 21 to 23 and it applies here too.
37:24
They treated Ericsson neck for Brock Nelson.
37:27
OK, that's an interesting one because we've been talking about
37:29
Brock Nelson as a self life for a while.
37:30
But honestly, I like it. I like it.
37:32
The playoff schedule. Yeah.
37:34
So I think I think that's a that's a fantastic target for
37:37
Nelson because at this point it seems like he's locked his spot
37:41
on power play 1 and that's kind of huge.
37:44
That was one of the big reasons that we were recommending him as
37:46
a cell high. I mean, also human.
37:48
OK, The main reason we recommend him as well high at the time was
37:50
because he was getting like 1.5 points per game.
37:52
So you know, like it's not it wasn't necessarily the whole
37:55
whether he stays on properly or not.
37:56
It was just playing out of his mind.
37:58
But you know, point per game is not out of the question for him.
38:01
And we never you know that. We never said that.
38:02
We just said 1.5 is not happening.
38:04
So so yeah, so definitely I would take Nelson over Ericsson
38:07
neck with that playoff schedule and Erickson necklaces all own
38:09
questions, but we're not really talking about him right now.
38:12
Who else would we send for? Brock Nelson?
38:15
John Tavares out sent for sure, but I.
38:16
Don't know that won't get done. Yeah, nude maybe.
38:20
If you can, I don't know if that gets done, but I would do that.
38:22
Huge new. Don't think so.
38:25
Timing is tight. Hymans also.
38:28
I don't think so. Or maybe.
38:31
It'll get done. I think it's time he gets done.
38:34
I think gets done. I'm just having one.
38:36
For natures. No, we're talking in Nelson.
38:39
For Brock Nelson. OHS for Nelson?
38:42
Yeah, that could that could get done.
38:44
Would you be willing to do that though?
38:45
Or is that too big of a? No, I think that's fair.
38:48
That's worth it. Unless like Hyman decides that
38:51
he wants to hit again whenever he comes back from a thing or a
38:54
new thing begins it seemingly. 11.
38:57
Break. You may just start hitting like
38:59
crazy, and if that happens, then I'd be sad about it.
39:02
More or less the the process should be to trade that.
39:04
Yeah, sure. I would give Hyman for now.
39:06
Something's telling me to keep Hyman there, but my mind says
39:09
that should go for Nelson. Yeah, I think, I think I would
39:13
be willing to do it. I think again, I'd rather him in
39:15
the Nelson. But it's the playoff schedule
39:16
that that said, this is one of the another one of those like
39:19
giving up slightly more value. One, one or two more names for
39:23
for Nelson. Holmstrom.
39:26
Yeah, I would definitely take Nelson over.
39:27
Yeah. Yeah, I actually I like
39:31
Barcellos one a lot because I think Barcelona huge cell high,
39:33
just been at like 1.2 points per game over the past month and
39:36
that's just not gonna last, especially on the Islanders
39:38
team. So yeah, I think those are all
39:40
great names for Nelson. We move to the next team.
39:43
I think we should go through these names maybe like Lala
39:46
faster and then when we do the trade away target, we can really
39:49
pair them up. And pair them up.
39:50
OK, Yeah. So next we've got Ottawa.
39:52
We've got Kichak, Tim Stutzel, Jake Sanderson, Drake Batherson,
39:57
Dylan Cousins. I realized the only guy that I
39:59
didn't say his first name is the only one.
40:01
Has a brother in the NHL. So is Brady Kuchuk.
40:05
Not Matthew. Yeah.
40:09
So pretty much it's their entire power play 1 unit.
40:13
I think Batherson we had highlighted as a buy low going
40:16
into the Olympic break. All the other guys are kind of
40:19
firing on all cylinders. So I don't think any of them or
40:21
buy lows, but I'd still buy them for, you know, even price but a
40:25
worse playoff schedule. I don't know if I'm just super
40:27
biased, but I think Ottawa is going to be one of the most like
40:31
the the best teams to have players on going into the end of
40:34
season in my opinion, because I think there are top five power
40:37
play. I think this team is like to do
40:39
everything they can to make the playoffs and I think they're
40:42
high scoring offence. It plays in a lot of high
40:43
scoring games because their goaltending is not good.
40:45
So I think you're just a lot of points on the board available.
40:49
And I do think that like there's a realistic chance that they can
40:53
make the playoffs because they're scoring is not the
40:56
problem. It's keeping pucks out of the
40:57
net. So if that happens, they're in
40:59
more game that they're winning. That means also more chances for
41:02
scoring because more Internet chances and everything.
41:04
So I really like Ottawa and I don't know if this is some bias
41:09
because I have a big Ottawa stack and it it's coming through
41:12
a lot for me. But I genuinely believe that
41:14
like all of these players are gonna be super fancy relevant
41:16
rest of season and all of them have been for performing well.
41:19
So it's hard to to acquire them for you know like you're paying
41:22
full price pretty much. And so they're not may not be
41:26
the best deals, but I think Drake Batherson is a fantastic
41:28
bylaw right now, so. Yeah.
41:30
I mean, I think two things can be true.
41:32
I think you're biased because they're on your team, but I
41:34
think you're also correct. So.
41:36
So I'm not biased. I think especially for weeks 22
41:41
to 24, the episode, you know, we're talking about these teams
41:44
now, any team in the Atlantic with a good playoff schedule is
41:49
a tremendous buy. Yeah, other than.
41:52
Tampa, even even Tampa, but it's just tough to require most of
41:56
those guys because they've been so good.
41:58
But the other three especially that we're going to mention,
42:02
I'll save it for the one that I think is the best I could say.
42:05
Kevin, do you think that Auto was the best of the Atlantic
42:09
teams to buy? Players on who would you say is
42:12
better? Can I know you?
42:14
Spoiler there he he. Yeah, I think.
42:20
I know you or what? Yeah.
42:25
I think Ottawa is, I don't wanna say better, but hmm, I think
42:35
Ottawa has. I don't think it has to be
42:37
quantified. I think they're both gonna be
42:38
great. They're both.
42:40
Gonna be great. They're both exactly the
42:42
position also, right, like they're they're both high flying
42:45
offences. They both should be doing better
42:48
than they have been doing, although maybe that leans a bit
42:50
more towards Florida. You know, they're both going to
42:52
be fighting tooth and nail for a playoff spot, right in a wide
42:55
open division because or wide open conference at least,
42:58
because everyone's just so close and doing so well.
43:01
So I think they're in the exact same position and they both have
43:04
a phenomenal like to top power play unit, like top five
43:07
players, you know. So I don't think we're splitting
43:10
feathers on choosing which one you'd rather.
43:11
I think I would take any of the 10 players we're going to list
43:13
on either Auto or Florida. Yeah, I love splitting feathers,
43:17
but I think in my mind the difference maker is like the
43:19
health aspect of it because Florida just all their guys
43:22
always seem hurt, like just came back from an injury.
43:25
If something is not going well and they're losing runaway, I
43:28
could see them being like, alright, well let's just put you
43:31
on breaks a little. Bit I don't know they can, Jones
43:33
is. Still, her Marshawn is like
43:35
always. Right.
43:35
I don't think so. I don't think they can do that
43:37
exactly like I think they really.
43:38
Lack Stanley Cup champs. They can't.
43:40
And if they're close, even if they can even sniff a playoff
43:42
spot, like they know their team is built for playoffs they know
43:44
they could come in at. 826 and a one before now.
43:47
Just to give you. 6:00 and 1:00. Just to quantify how how close
43:52
the Atlantic division is Florida's and last place with 61
43:55
points they would be top 4IN either Western Conference
43:59
division. Like so crazy.
44:02
That's nuts. It's crazy, but it's also the
44:04
reality, right? Like you're still bottom 4 or
44:07
you know. Bottom, but it's the fact that
44:09
it's separated only by 17 points at the top and the bottom of.
44:13
The data a lot closer. Exactly, like that's 11 points
44:18
between the Canadians and the Panthers.
44:20
Like it's pretty sick, though we're all this to say, it's
44:25
really close. So Florida and Ottawa definitely
44:27
love those, I guess. Yeah, Batherson's a really good
44:30
buy. Just going back to Ottawa, yeah,
44:32
other than other than that, I it's a high scoring team and
44:35
that's why I like what Kevin said about.
44:37
Like yeah, scoring should. Yeah, as long as they keep the
44:40
puck out of the net, they should go on a crazy tear.
44:43
They just need to Andrew Hammond back or something, yeah.
44:46
We're good, honestly, like if you're buying any of these
44:48
assets, I couldn't care less if they keep the puck out of the
44:50
net because there is scoring regardless of if they let in six
44:53
goals or zero goals. So I'm happy either way.
44:56
I don't think they're making the playoffs personally.
44:58
Maybe that's a thing to be fighting for it.
45:00
I don't think there gonna make it.
45:01
I think there's better. Teams.
45:02
Too many teams still that are still good.
45:05
But I understood about to fall off completely to make to Mr.
45:08
Playhouse. I don't think it's out of the
45:09
question. Boston, I feel he's a team that
45:11
everybody's saying like they're gonna make the playoffs, even
45:13
though I've been a playoff position.
45:14
The whole team, like there's gonna be fighting for it too.
45:16
Yeah. So like, you know, the Columbus,
45:18
the Ottawa, the Florida, the New Jersey, like the Toronto, like
45:21
all these things are all desperately want to make.
45:23
The playoffs and they all. Came Utah.
45:27
That's why I just I like the thought at the beginning.
45:30
Yeah, not many spots left like that.
45:32
We're all saying Tampa, Montreal, Detroit are going to
45:35
make the playoffs. I think those are close making
45:36
it. I don't, I don't.
45:38
I'm not great at the crumble floor I think by.
45:40
Caroline was making. Is that a guarantee?
45:41
And that's like cool, because they're they're a bad playoff
45:44
team, 22 to 24. And then auto was a good one.
45:47
You know what I mean? That's one of those.
45:48
Like, they're both gonna be fighting, but Ottawa's got the
45:51
volume. So no, but I mean in terms of
45:53
like real NHL, like they're not a lock.
45:55
But I think if I had to like, say, my playoffs right now, I'm
45:59
saying it's going to be from our division, Tampa, Montreal,
46:03
Detroit, then Sabers in a wild card.
46:05
And then I'm putting Columbus in a wild card.
46:08
And then it's going to be from the other division, Canes and
46:11
Pittsburgh. And then it's either going to be
46:13
Islanders or Washington. I think more likely Washington.
46:16
Probably do one of you guys wanna beer bit me to Buffalo
46:18
does not make the playoffs. I'll take that, yeah.
46:21
Yeah, because I see you guys crowning them so early.
46:24
I'm just like, I want them, I want it to happen.
46:26
Like I'm ready for it, but just something about it.
46:28
When I see the names on the in the standings, I'm looking at
46:31
like. Looking and you're like this
46:33
team is not making the playoffs. To him and I'm like this team is
46:36
making the playoffs. Then I see Josh Doors on IR and
46:38
I'm just like, this is not making the playoffs you.
46:40
See Josh Morris on IR and they've been like 20 and like 1
46:43
without him and he he, they still have him coming back.
46:46
You know, if anything that should make you more confident.
46:48
No, I mean, there's something about it is that haven't made
46:50
the playoffs in 15 years ago. So like Floridas behind them,
46:54
Ottawa behind them, I think they're better set up for the
46:57
for this year. So I'm just like.
46:59
No, I'm nowhere near saying Buffalo is a lock.
47:01
I'm just saying I think they're gonna finish in it, but I think
47:03
it's super close. I'll take that beer bet, though.
47:05
I feel like we haven't made enough lately.
47:07
Gotta gotta start making those again.
47:10
Realize that in. All right.
47:14
Yeah, OK, moving on to the next one.
47:16
We've got the Vancouver Canucks. Literally.
47:19
Who is worth trading for? Like I put Elias Pettersson, but
47:21
like. I don't want to work.
47:24
Yeah, if you're training for Peterson, you have to be
47:27
training for him like expecting him to be like point 7.8 points
47:31
per game. Like he's not going to be a
47:32
point per game guy. The thing I like about Peterson
47:35
in terms of our league specifically is he's a winger
47:36
who wins face offs and he got hits and blocks.
47:39
Like not a lot, but like he's actually, I think the other him
47:42
and Matthews are like the two best blockers, blockers from
47:45
forwards, which is very valuable.
47:47
And yeah, in leagues that count that.
47:49
So he definitely has a spot on rosters.
47:51
But if the person trading him you're trying to get him from is
47:55
like, oh, I'm only trading him if you assume he's primalist
47:57
Patterson, which is not a person that exists anymore, but you
48:01
know, then you like, OK, no, I'm not interested.
48:02
But for the right price. And I guess our job is telling
48:05
people what is the right price for life person.
48:07
What would? You pay most most people don't
48:09
play in leagues have face off wins.
48:10
So I think he's even put UN quote less valuable than how
48:13
we're perceiving him because in our league, like the left wing
48:16
face off wins is huge on his one prime players for that fantasy
48:20
edge. My mind goes straight to like if
48:23
you can get nude like Alexa, Yeah, I would do Alex talk I
48:28
like. That one to.
48:29
Talk I will do new age I would do like OK well that's that's
48:33
what I do I want I. Do and Zuccarello And that's it
48:37
from Zuccarello. Patia Samuelson.
48:42
Now, we're not worried. I don't think I would do Nick
48:44
Schmaltz I I just think that this team is a train wreck.
48:47
And the only interest I have in the Canucks, especially, first
48:51
of all, it's only really in weeks 22 to 24 where they have a
48:53
good playoff schedule and it's picking up the guys off waivers
48:57
that can kind of go on a tear if you're in a really deep leak.
49:00
That's the only interest I have. Liam Ogren could be good if
49:04
you're again, really deep, like 1600 Garland.
49:07
Yeah, maybe like a draw. Yeah, yeah, things.
49:13
It's it's one of those. Honestly, whenever you one of
49:19
our deep you mentioned him. Yeah, exactly.
49:21
I yeah. So that's, that's how I would
49:25
approach it. I wouldn't trade for any of
49:26
their players, but I would pick him up on waivers.
49:28
OK. But we have to give like one
49:30
name from one or two names for Peterson.
49:32
I know he threw some out with and.
49:33
Green Ninja, Hopkins, if you have them make the swap or
49:35
anybody else. I do not wanna do that right.
49:37
I'm cool with that and probably zuccarello.
49:41
Yeah, but I don't think the gorilla gets it done.
49:43
Yeah, I mean, it's always. You'd be surprised, honestly.
49:45
I mean, like Zuccarello's last month numbers are ridiculous.
49:48
I know it's. Probably. 25 points, 100%.
49:51
But it's also like Elias Peterson.
49:53
I don't think anyone happy with him.
49:54
Yeah. So essentially I would take him
49:56
on my teams. Forward.
49:59
And that's something that people are interested in like.
50:01
That yeah, that's, that's a good one, that.
50:03
Specifically, you need face off lines and blocks for him to be
50:07
like, that's where he really shows, you know.
50:09
So if you don't have either of those then I'm no interest in
50:12
trading for. Him for the next team.
50:14
All right, next we've got New Jersey.
50:16
So we have Jack Hughes, Nico Hischier, Dougie Hamilton, Esper
50:20
Brat. I didn't include Timo Meyer
50:23
because I just don't want to trade for him even in even
50:26
bangers like just within no power play 1 and he's pretty
50:30
bad. Do you guys have any worry that
50:32
Jack Hughes is gonna just go straight back to IR after the
50:34
Olympics? I'm not worried about that.
50:37
I still think New Jersey is going to try to make the
50:39
playoffs, but I think they succeed.
50:40
No, but I think they're gonna try and it's it's just this team
50:45
has they started the season so hot they felt like they were
50:48
going to be a contender and then everything.
50:50
Should have been. I mean, they got a lot of
50:52
injuries that they had to deal with and then it was just like
50:54
constantly. Then Timo left and I feel like
50:57
it's just been a constant rotation of like bad things
50:59
happening to them and on ice performance is not getting
51:02
better but I think we'll see the best New Jersey team in the
51:05
season post Olympic break. Is it too late?
51:08
I think so. Does that mean they won't be
51:10
fantasy relevant? No maybe I'm just biased.
51:13
I'm holding out hope for yes for Brad to be like close to what we
51:16
know by just press standards. But.
51:19
GPP, It, NHL. We haven't heard that one in a
51:24
while. He doesn't.
51:24
Deserve it. He doesn't deserve it.
51:26
I'm not part of the brat pack right now of.
51:29
Trade him to me then. But I think just to give a quick
51:33
layout, I think he sure is probably the most consistent
51:36
asset of the bunch right now. I really like what I'm seeing
51:39
from Dougie. I may be higher on him than both
51:41
of you guys, to be honest. I'm putting him close to what I
51:44
what I expected coming into this season, which is great news for
51:47
Josh because he held this whole time, I really believe.
51:50
Yeah, that's no points in like 20 games, you know, I'm like,
51:55
no, I feel. It inconceivable, but yeah, but
52:00
I lose. I really wanna trade for
52:02
Jacques. I've been trying.
52:03
I've been sending Panarin Plus for Jacques and it's been
52:05
getting rejected in our league. Does that get on your league?
52:08
I think so. So I've sent a lot of Jacques.
52:11
Officially to to tell my girlfriend that you just had
52:14
inconceivable, which is a total reference to.
52:16
The Princess, yeah, I wouldn't see yesterday.
52:20
Yeah, there was a concert happening in in Montreal where
52:23
like a live orchestra playing the score for the Princess.
52:25
Bride, I love those. I went to see the Lord of the
52:28
Rings, one of those a few years ago.
52:29
So sick. The Princess Bride one was
52:32
insane. The people were, like, cheering.
52:34
Yeah. All the big moments.
52:37
And my girlfriend had never seen it before.
52:40
It was like her first experience.
52:41
And she didn't have, like, the lore behind the movie.
52:43
Like, know that it's kind of like a cult classic a little
52:45
bit. Yeah.
52:46
So when people were cheating, like, why are people cheering or
52:48
whatever? And then you see the things
52:49
happen that which is what brings us together.
52:53
She's like, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
52:59
No, that's great. In the post credit scene, when
53:01
they they're doing like the the names of the actors or whatever,
53:05
they put the guys and they go the impressive clergyman like
53:08
they that's how they wrote his name in the in the credits.
53:10
That is impressive. Alright, What are some names for
53:15
Jack Hughes? Well, should we do that or
53:16
should we do those in the trade aways?
53:18
What do you think? Well, let's just do Hue
53:20
specifically and then we'll. Are you guys still comfortable
53:23
doing Panera? I I think.
53:27
So I would rather a healthy use over Panarin with the playoff
53:30
schedule. Am I certain of the health?
53:33
No, but you know what I'm I'm a high risk, high reward guy.
53:36
So I would probably do that. But I would honestly like, I
53:38
think you should ask for huge plus if you have Cameron.
53:40
Well, I'm doing the opposite and it's.
53:43
Not yeah so are league is just no you can't judge actual trade
53:46
values in our league cause no one will trade unless it's a
53:48
clear win for them other than us you know but.
53:51
I mean, the trade that I pulled off earlier this season in the
53:55
other league with the other fantasy analysts, I traded
53:57
Batherson plus Hymen for Jacques.
53:58
Would you be comfortable doing that right now?
54:00
Yeah, I do with that. Yeah, I saw.
54:03
That's a fantastic. Trade, but there you go.
54:05
Would you trade Mark Stone for for Jacques?
54:07
Feel like with the playoff schedule maybe?
54:10
Yeah, I mean, actually I think this is one of those cases where
54:14
like, you know, if if Hughes had the better, I mean if it's one
54:17
of the better playoff schedule, if, you know, it's the same.
54:19
I'll probably just keep Stone at this point.
54:20
Like I. Was gonna bomb, but I really
54:23
love Mark Stone. It's crazy.
54:25
It's crazy what he's doing. It's not against me.
54:29
So I mean, that's, that's definitely a risky one because
54:31
that's like, I mean, any of these are gonna be risky with
54:34
you only make this trade if you if you think you can stay
54:36
healthy rest of season. One squishy guy for another.
54:39
Yeah, that's true. The Battle of the Squishy.
54:41
Yeah, again with a guy like owner or with the Panera and I'm
54:44
I have to get used plus in return because I think it's too
54:47
big of a dip in like what they've been doing all season to
54:51
justify doing it. In a recent post game interview,
54:55
Hughes said something like if people think that New Jersey is
54:58
out of it, they don't know what they're talking about or
55:00
something like that. I was like, oh, OK, he's got a
55:02
fire behind. Yeah, he's.
55:06
Well, be like, what do you have to say to the family?
55:08
Like, I got nothing to say. He's like, yeah.
55:10
There's. Something better on the ice or
55:11
whatever. It was something like that like
55:13
he was anyway he they're gonna try and I think that they could
55:17
all have like a bounce back from what's been happening.
55:19
I'm with Kevin on both of you on this one that I think that
55:22
they're gonna rebound but they're going till the very end.
55:26
And I also wouldn't be surprised with the metropolitan.
55:28
It's not as close as the Atlantic, but it's still pretty
55:30
close if. New Jersey finishes the season
55:33
hot. Like we've seen them be able to
55:36
go on runs before where they're like they're out of 15 games,
55:39
they're winning like 12 of them, thirteen of them.
55:41
Like we've seen that out of this team before.
55:43
It's in the range of outcomes. If that happens, I think Noble,
55:46
nobody will be more vindicated than this podcast right here.
55:50
I think we've been talking about buying Jacques and buying yes
55:53
for Brad for like the whole season.
55:54
It feels like so, if that. Happened Dougie Hamilton all
55:57
season for that's literally just being insane.
56:01
OK, let's go to the next one. Next, we've got Philly.
56:03
Not the most assets here that are that interesting, but Travis
56:06
Konecny on fire before the break.
56:08
Trevor Siegrist is actually a great buy low and I tossed in
56:11
Owen Tippett for bangers because he's always solid for shots and
56:13
hits and he can contribute. Otherwise, I don't think anyone
56:16
else I'm trading for on this team.
56:18
I think the most attainable 1 is well, I mean tip it, but like I
56:21
think the Best Buy low is egress.
56:24
He really slowed down before the break and I think he's got the
56:27
upside of what he was doing earlier in the season.
56:30
We didn't talk about Brett at all.
56:31
And to be fair, talk about him so much.
56:33
But like Chris or Brat rest of season.
56:36
I take Brad over seagrass. OK, same.
56:39
But just happy little. But I'll take that over Brad.
56:42
Who? Yeah, connect me.
56:45
Yeah, I think you have to with like you just just when, when
56:49
healthy they're both kind of similar and ones just better
56:52
always right now so. Yeah, who do you, who do you
56:56
send? What's the name for like
56:58
Siegrist you would send. What do you send Alex Tuck for
57:00
Siegrist? I think I'd rather like, no.
57:05
I think I'd rather use Alex talk in a different trade, if that
57:08
makes sense. Like if you require a better
57:09
player. Yeah.
57:11
I think if you said that, it probably gets instant accepted
57:13
and I don't know if the dividends are gonna be worth it,
57:16
so. John Carlson Criss cross
57:18
position. I think that's a no brainer.
57:21
Small figures, the points production you expect from the
57:23
rest of season. Is it like a .8?
57:25
Is it more? Somewhere between point and .9.
57:29
I think that's where I would place them.
57:31
Do you find that interest at all, or you think it's very
57:33
conceivable? Is is what point per game or
57:38
point? 9 point point 8.9.
57:40
I think that .8 is super, super reasonable.
57:44
I think .9 is definitely the high end of it, but I mean, it's
57:48
probably, honestly probably closer like point 8.85.
57:50
I think that's, that's yeah, reasonable.
57:52
It's Philly. They're not a good offence.
57:55
Yeah, I'm, I'm in the .8 range because I think his floor is
57:58
closer to .7 and like, so I like a wider range of outcomes for
58:02
him. Like he's gone on some pretty
58:04
cool stretches at points and then he's gone back.
58:07
But I guess on the whole it's been nice.
58:09
So I'm kind of in like the .8 range as well, which is not bad.
58:13
You could do worse, Elias. Pettersson or Trevor Seagrass?
58:17
So like I wouldn't I wouldn't do that trade just because it's not
58:21
like a bad for good playoff schedule.
58:22
But I'm also taking Zegers as like we.
58:24
Just want a better player. Right.
58:26
So yeah, yeah. And I think that I could
58:28
actually get done, yeah. Like that could work if you have
58:31
Peterson. Yeah.
58:33
Alright, let's go to the next one.
58:35
We talked about a bunch. We've got Florida, so you got
58:39
Matthew Kuchuk, Sam Reinhart, Sam Bennett, Seth Jones, Brad
58:42
Marshawn. You could toss in Anton Lindell
58:45
on there as well, even though he's probably not play on.
58:47
The team is fully healthy. Yeah.
58:49
I mean, is the team going to be fully healthy?
58:51
Like I'm kind of sketched out by Marshall being scratched from
58:55
the most recent Olympic game. Yeah, same.
58:58
I don't know what you guys think, but he also didn't play a
59:00
few games going into the Olympics.
59:02
He started a game and then was taken out for precautionary
59:05
reasons. I honestly like I could see him
59:09
being out for most of their meeting of the season and then
59:12
if they make the playoffs he comes back for playoffs and just
59:14
powers through whatever injuries he's dealing with.
59:16
Part of me thinks that he was scratching the Olympic game
59:18
because I think Canada has a very strong squad and they can
59:21
afford to rest him given that he's probably playing through
59:24
some injuries. So I'm not like completely
59:26
sketched out being like, alright, it's over.
59:29
But I definitely think like from what we've seen from him, he's
59:32
been hurt a lot recently and that will linger.
59:35
Like just because, you know, days are passing doesn't mean
59:38
that you're always getting better and you're old and you're
59:41
still playing hockey, right? So, um, I mean, this is crazy
59:45
because these three teams are are stuck, right?
59:47
We're talking the next three teams are gonna talk about this
59:49
like Florida, Montreal, Tampa, like they're all, you know,
59:52
similar understandings, Ish. But it's not Florida.
59:57
Yeah, except Florida. They should all be close,
1:00:01
technically, Yeah. And I think the one that's gonna
1:00:04
need to win games the most is obviously Florida.
1:00:07
And they're also double squishiest players.
1:00:10
So yeah, I I really want Matthew Could, Chuck and Reinhart
1:00:14
because I think these are the talismanic players to the team
1:00:18
and I feel like they are integral to the success.
1:00:20
I feel like even if the team is doing horrible, these guys will
1:00:22
succeed. The other guys.
1:00:24
I feel like it's going to be more streaky, but it's been on
1:00:27
fire. Obviously Jake has has been
1:00:29
reveling in that. I would love to acquire Marshall
1:00:32
on the sheep and Seth Jones. I just don't know what to
1:00:34
expect. I feel like you're selling.
1:00:36
News. I'm buying low, low, like kind
1:00:39
of how we talked about Robert Thomas earlier, like that's kind
1:00:41
of how I visualized Seth Jones. I will say with Bennett four
1:00:46
straight games with no points heading into the Olympic break.
1:00:49
She was just some negative regression though.
1:00:51
He was too good. Yeah, he was on fire, but it
1:00:54
could present decent buying opportunity because maybe his
1:00:57
pace was unsustainable, but also for strict games with straight
1:01:01
zeros is also way not good and he'll be better than that.
1:01:05
Sonari. I think all these guys are like
1:01:09
on at the Olympics right now, like Team Canada, Team USA, like
1:01:12
I feel they're gonna come back with a fire like.
1:01:15
They're yeah, like pump that's. These are the type of guys that
1:01:18
I feel they have the mentality that after playing in such high
1:01:20
stakes games like that, they come back and they're gonna be
1:01:23
playing every game is gonna be high stakes for them because
1:01:25
they make the playoffs. So I think they just translate
1:01:27
that energy and I think it's gonna be positive for them.
1:01:29
So I do expect Florida to be like off the jump, like really
1:01:32
good. But Marsha has a scary one, even
1:01:34
though he's the most accessible one, let's say, given the
1:01:38
injury. I mean, yeah, him and Seth
1:01:40
Jones, I'm really curious about what's going to happen because
1:01:42
he, by the time the Olympic break ends, he'll have been out
1:01:44
for like 6 weeks at that point, which is like a long time.
1:01:48
And there's been like no news about about him.
1:01:51
So I mean, I have them on my team.
1:01:53
I'm hoping he he comes back. Would you trade Carlson for him?
1:01:57
No, I yeah, Carlson, yes, but like I wanna try triggering like
1:02:02
I think it's like a big risk with with Jones, whereas yeah.
1:02:07
While even healthy, I'd rather chicken to Jones.
1:02:09
So I definitely wouldn't do that to wouldn't do that trade.
1:02:12
But yeah, there's there's a big risk there.
1:02:15
So, but if you can get him for cheap, that's the type of trade
1:02:17
I I love to make. You know, like if, if the you
1:02:19
know, if the team with Jones is fighting for a playoff spot or
1:02:21
they have too many injured guys or whatever, take advantage of
1:02:25
that. And if you have a spot to stash
1:02:26
them on your IR, because if he does come back, he's power play
1:02:29
one quarterback for this Florida team that has elite players on
1:02:32
their power play and is going to be fighting like tooth and nail
1:02:35
for playoff spot. That's a really good place to
1:02:37
be. And we haven't even seen Jones
1:02:39
yet with a healthy Kichak. So like, I just think that his
1:02:42
ceiling is super, super high. The floor is that he just does
1:02:45
not play because he's injured. So it's a pretty wide range of
1:02:48
outcomes. Would you trade Dylan Gunther
1:02:51
for Brad Marshawn? I would not even with the even
1:02:56
with the worst ones. I just I'm really sketched out
1:02:59
by Marshalls Health and I think that there is really good.
1:03:02
So even though his the playoff difference is small there, it's
1:03:07
funny because Malta has been like, I feel like a lot better
1:03:09
than Gunther, but in my mind I'd much rather have Gunther.
1:03:12
Yeah. We have the looming feeling of
1:03:15
Logan Cooley coming back, I think and like disrupting how
1:03:18
this these ones look. I think I would do smells from
1:03:21
Marshall with the playoff difference because I think is
1:03:23
Marshall was really good when he was healthy.
1:03:25
Yeah, he was. He's been on fire.
1:03:26
So the only tough thing is it feels like he's not using this
1:03:29
Olympic break to rest right and you know better.
1:03:32
So but it but with this position that Florida is in, they can't
1:03:35
afford to rest him if he can play right.
1:03:39
But then it's not it's not always a question of resting.
1:03:41
It's also a question of can he play to the best of his
1:03:43
abilities if he's playing injured.
1:03:44
So there's definitely risk there, but I don't mind doing
1:03:47
the. Shells for Marshall Sergachev
1:03:48
for Seth Jones. No.
1:03:52
JK Sergachev, Josh has Seth Jones.
1:03:55
I mean it. It really depends on the
1:03:57
position you're in. I think if you're like
1:03:59
comfortably in a playoff position, I think it could like
1:04:02
healthy S Jones. I'd much rather over circuit
1:04:04
chip, especially with playoff schedule.
1:04:05
The reason why you cannot get happen is because he's hurt.
1:04:08
Right now we have. Actually seen it like even like
1:04:11
healthy to healthy it would be totally out of the question.
1:04:14
Like I said, don't like, I don't think.
1:04:17
Under is making that trade. I don't think it's like like, I
1:04:22
think it's fair, you know what I'm saying?
1:04:24
So with the unhealthy part of it, that's why I as a circuit of
1:04:27
owner, I'm like reluctant to say I would do that.
1:04:29
You know what I mean? I also think that Jones, who I
1:04:32
do like if healthy rest of season for sure is not nearly as
1:04:35
impactful as what Marshall is going to be like if Marshall's
1:04:38
back. I know that different archetype,
1:04:41
different player, but Marshall would be like a huge part of
1:04:43
their success no matter what, whereas Jones like.
1:04:47
When you've excellence, guess you know who needs.
1:04:50
What he finally broke on a Power Play 1.
1:04:52
He was wait, but you know what I mean?
1:04:53
There's still some question marks to Chuck was not healthy
1:04:56
when Jones had power play 1. So that's another part of the
1:05:00
equation to me, even though I like Jones, I'd happily trade
1:05:03
for Jones. I would do John Carlson, but
1:05:05
like, I think it's a little bit of a notch above on a Utah team
1:05:08
that's also going to need to compete.
1:05:11
Yeah. To me, it's just like the
1:05:12
playoff schedule. That was the big question.
1:05:14
Yeah. And because I think with
1:05:16
everybody, both of them being healthy, I prefer Jones just
1:05:18
because the playoff schedule is better.
1:05:21
But yeah, you're out of your element of the ambiguity of the
1:05:24
injury, so I think it makes it more even.
1:05:29
They're yeah. Don't be type.
1:05:31
It's tough because it feels like a lot of times with these like.
1:05:33
Matthew Samuelson over both, by the way.
1:05:37
I feel like a lot of times these injuries, like whether you don't
1:05:40
hear anything, it's like everyone's too scared to send
1:05:42
offers. And then like sometimes they
1:05:44
just come out of nowhere, like like super early, right?
1:05:46
And then you're kicking yourself for not doing it.
1:05:48
But that doesn't happen when it's on my team.
1:05:50
So I feel like it's no, but I mean, it's, it's, it's a high
1:05:54
risk, high reward play. I would probably do it if I was
1:05:57
in a comfortable playoff position.
1:05:59
But like, I mean, I'm always the one who's taking the risks, you
1:06:02
know, like I feel like it's, that's kind of my, my archetype,
1:06:05
my style. So I wouldn't blame anyone for
1:06:08
not wanting it. At the end of the day, it could
1:06:09
turn out that you just sent away circuitry for nothing if Johnson
1:06:12
doesn't play. Just look at the hubs.
1:06:15
Yeah, let's talk about the Habs, alright.
1:06:18
We've got Olympian Nick Suzuki, the future Olympian.
1:06:22
His tip on McDavid? Yeah, that was the baby.
1:06:25
Yeah, exactly. Funny, after that he was just
1:06:29
like he was like, oh, so this is how easy it is playing with
1:06:31
McDavid. But yeah, I know he's been he's
1:06:36
playing with David. He's been on the line with
1:06:37
McKinnon too. Like that's great for for
1:06:39
Suzuki. Very, very fun watching him.
1:06:42
We've got future Olympian Cole Caufield, who should have never
1:06:46
been left off the team few future Olympian Lane Hudson,
1:06:50
probably one of the best Olympic players ever in Slovakian
1:06:56
history here I Silkowski. He's been insane this Olympics
1:07:00
and actually. Like his team Slovak literally
1:07:03
like. Yeah, like this is the first
1:07:04
Olympic Olympics he's played in, but in every game that he's
1:07:07
played with that Slovakia jersey on, in different tournaments,
1:07:09
whatever, he's been absurd. Like his stats are just nuts.
1:07:12
So it's a really cool to see. And then Ivan Demidov, who
1:07:15
doesn't even have an Olympic team, so.
1:07:19
That's really topics. You think he would make the?
1:07:22
Team. I think you make the team.
1:07:25
Yeah, I'm not sure what the Russian depth chart looks like,
1:07:27
but I I'd be surprised if he did.
1:07:28
They got no centres, but they got some wingers.
1:07:31
Yeah, Nikita, traffic friends that they would have a sick
1:07:36
team, but yeah. So let's talk about the the
1:07:38
Habs. We love this team, obviously,
1:07:41
and as much as I wanna talk about them all day, I think that
1:07:44
there's not much to say because they've all been really good and
1:07:48
I don't want to sell them because of the great playoff
1:07:50
schedule and buying them is going to be really tough.
1:07:53
So like, what do you do with this team?
1:07:56
I don't think you have a lot of buy low opportunities on this
1:07:59
team. Like Jackie just said, if you
1:08:00
have these players on your roster, I'm very happy and you
1:08:04
can probably just try to do like, like lateral moves to get
1:08:08
to them. Like would you do neither to
1:08:10
Cofield or is that too too big of a value jump you think?
1:08:15
I think you'd have to get Cofield plus.
1:08:16
I don't know if I would do that really.
1:08:18
I mean, I love Caulfield and Caulfield's got the edge on
1:08:20
shots and power play points. But like Neander's like every
1:08:25
game he's been injured a bunch, but then he keeps coming back
1:08:27
and putting up like 3-4 point games.
1:08:28
Like he is a first round, like late first round, early second
1:08:31
round pick and Coffield, like playing his way into the
1:08:34
conversation to be like a fourth round pick or something like
1:08:35
that, which is like sick, you know?
1:08:37
But like any longer still a tier above.
1:08:39
So I think I still need more. Does it change anything that the
1:08:41
fact that like I think if Toronto is close to not making
1:08:45
the playoffs, using the other is a prime candidate for getting
1:08:48
shutdown? I agree, but I think they are.
1:08:50
I think they're fully in the hunt.
1:08:52
They've been on a really hot streak going into the Olympics.
1:08:54
If they hadn't gone on this hot streak and they were sitting at
1:08:56
the bottom of the East like they were a few weeks ago, then I
1:08:59
would fully agree. But I think they'll be fighting
1:09:01
right till the end. Yeah.
1:09:04
Do you like? Much more and more or less than
1:09:06
Nylander. Who?
1:09:08
Manage Marner. Um, I think I like, I think I
1:09:13
like Mariner more for the power play and the health.
1:09:18
Goes good Sir. Yeah, well, who's worse than
1:09:21
that? You trade for Crossfield.
1:09:23
Who would I trade for Cofield? I mean, do you think?
1:09:26
I mean this probably probably can't pull off like a a map
1:09:28
Barzel at this point even though he's been unreal.
1:09:32
You could use a package like a 2.
1:09:34
For one, it's a coffee. I'll definitely do that.
1:09:35
Playoff you do like Barzal plus like an echo or something maybe
1:09:38
they. Got yeah.
1:09:40
Zach Hyman I would do for for coffee for sure.
1:09:43
Would you do? Would you do tage for Cofield?
1:09:48
Tage, no, because I think that wouldn't be lender or tage.
1:09:52
Yeah. Would you clean killer?
1:09:55
I would. You could do colour.
1:09:56
Yeah, I like that one actually. That's a close one.
1:09:59
Yeah. I would also probably do OVI.
1:10:02
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.
1:10:03
I feel like and that's like a big name value 1 like that could
1:10:06
get done. Yeah, we're talking major
1:10:08
leagues too, right? Because all we just have that
1:10:09
too is game still a little bit like Tom was also taking Tom
1:10:13
Wilson, right? Yeah.
1:10:14
And the Bankers League. Yeah, I love the colour 1.
1:10:18
I think that's a perfect, perfect one.
1:10:20
What about for Zuke? For Suzuki.
1:10:24
What? Who do you feel like?
1:10:25
It's too hard to acquire Suzuki, right?
1:10:26
Now I'll dictate for Suzuki. I don't think you've done.
1:10:29
You don't think? So no, why didn't the status I?
1:10:33
Think the. Teachers not.
1:10:34
Yeah, but Suzuki has also been nuts.
1:10:36
Yeah, Suzuki went into the Olympics averaging like .6 power
1:10:40
play points a game over the last month.
1:10:42
Like, you're not getting a discount there, right?
1:10:44
Like he's been better than awesome Matthews.
1:10:48
I would, yeah. I would do Tage.
1:10:49
I would do Delander. I would.
1:10:51
Take Marylander. I would do both of those.
1:10:53
Yeah, I think those could get done.
1:10:55
I don't think those are like impossible.
1:10:57
I don't think it'll get done. I think the people that have
1:10:59
held Suzuki know how good he is and I just don't think that
1:11:03
you're getting any kind of discount.
1:11:04
I think you need to, you need to be sending a player that is
1:11:06
either clearly better in name value or has been better
1:11:10
production wise and there's very few players have better
1:11:12
production wise but Jackie just. Oh, there you go.
1:11:16
I'm. Good.
1:11:17
OK, Yeah. So that's no, I, I think it's
1:11:21
fair. I think it's really hard to get
1:11:22
to to get to, yeah. Well, yeah.
1:11:29
OK, let's let's go to to Tampa. Yeah, this is another one where
1:11:33
there's a lot of difficult to reach guys and one really clear
1:11:37
Bilo. So we've got Nikita Kucherov,
1:11:39
Jake Guentzel, Brandon Hagel, Darren Radish and Brayden Point.
1:11:43
I think the first four guys are, I mean Kucherov untouchable.
1:11:45
Like no one's going to trade him.
1:11:47
If you have, I would do probably I'd probably do McDavid or or or
1:11:53
dry saddle for coach at this point with the playoff schedule
1:11:55
difference. I think, I think at this point,
1:11:57
the only guy I'm not trading for Travis McKinnon.
1:11:59
I'll give you both. Yeah, yeah.
1:12:06
Celebrity or something? I'll give you Fabian and we're
1:12:08
we're quality even. Yeah.
1:12:10
So I think I think honestly like the only guy because of playoff
1:12:12
schedule for these weeks, the only guy I'm not trading for
1:12:14
coaches McKinnon, right. Is there anyone else that you
1:12:17
wouldn't trade for him? I don't think that's.
1:12:18
It in 21 to 23 as well. Those are like it's kind of the
1:12:22
same. They're both good playoffs
1:12:24
schedule teams and the only player I'm willing to accept for
1:12:28
Crush at this point is McKenna. Yeah, then Gensel, I think is
1:12:32
attainable. I mean, you're going to pay full
1:12:34
price for him, but he's just consistently, you know, slightly
1:12:37
above a point per game, like close to three shots, you know,
1:12:40
being on the power play with Putrov.
1:12:41
Like you just send a a similar player to someone who doesn't
1:12:45
know about playoff schedules and I think you can get that done.
1:12:47
Like I would train you under for Denzel.
1:12:51
I think the land is better, but with the playoff schedule I
1:12:53
think I would I would probably do.
1:12:54
That I'm lowering the other than both of you guys.
1:12:56
So depending on how how the viewers feel like, yeah, don't,
1:13:00
don't put too much emphasis on my take, maybe unless you
1:13:02
disagree with my takes usually. Yeah, but no.
1:13:05
But I like that. I just think I really wanna own
1:13:09
like the Atlantic teams and the one that I'm like, I guess least
1:13:13
enthused in a way is Tampa, because they're the.
1:13:16
Best so far ahead, yeah. You know what I mean?
1:13:18
So. That's why I think Kucherov and
1:13:20
Hagel on my team and they're just so good.
1:13:22
That's gone boring. I'm desensitized.
1:13:24
We yeah, exactly. But we're weeks 21 to 23.
1:13:27
It's different. This is like really team
1:13:29
dependent. So, but yeah, I'll cancel over
1:13:32
Neil Anders tough, but I'll probably, I guess I'd go with
1:13:35
that. I still think Nylander is
1:13:38
better, like I'm not as low, I'm not nearly as low on him as as
1:13:41
Kevin is. But I think Denzel, like you're
1:13:43
just it's a very safe, you know what you're getting and and the
1:13:46
playoff schedule difference is is pretty nice.
1:13:49
Hagel and healthy. Yeah.
1:13:50
Hagel, are we? I'm absolutely so high.
1:13:54
I'm not buying Hagel. I think he's just too
1:13:56
unattainable right now for for a reasonable price.
1:13:59
If I have Hagel, I'm telling you right now what I'm doing, OK?
1:14:02
And if you're a Hagel owner, you can take this advice if you
1:14:04
want. You can take it in, let it
1:14:06
marinate in your mind. But I'm trying to trade him for
1:14:09
Matthew Kichak. Sam Reinhart.
1:14:11
I'm trying to trade him for Nick Suzuki.
1:14:13
I'm trying to trade him for Jack Hughes.
1:14:16
What he's gonna do that? For these are all good names.
1:14:19
They're fantastic names. I'm.
1:14:20
Trying to trade them for Marty Natures and.
1:14:23
Well, OK, so. Part of because I really
1:14:27
sincerely believed that first of all, I think he's due for some
1:14:29
negative regression. I think Tampa's been like, no
1:14:31
going on all cylinders that there's been a lot of goals or.
1:14:35
Like as much as is insane, he's not going to keep averaging over
1:14:37
2 points per game. And Hegel is just basically been
1:14:40
on everything, right? Yeah.
1:14:42
And I do believe that would point comes back.
1:14:44
I think Hagel gets bumped up power play one.
1:14:46
Do I agree with it? No.
1:14:47
I think there's room for all of them.
1:14:48
Do I think it's going to happen? Yes, I think you have to.
1:14:51
Make room for all of our beers, Strand, obviously.
1:14:54
So that's where my mind is on and I think even the risk of
1:14:58
that is enough to make me wanna capitalize on the value right
1:15:01
now. I can't get Matthew to Chuck for
1:15:04
Hagel. I'm almost certain that the that
1:15:06
to Chuck owner and are they won't do it.
1:15:08
But if you're in that position, I I would do it like I've spoken
1:15:12
to him about trees and like it's, it's very difficult
1:15:14
situation, but I think in most. Leagues, he's really good.
1:15:18
I would do that trade like if you have Hagel trading for it to
1:15:23
Chuck's big risk reward situation, but like if it pays.
1:15:27
Off and yeah, anyways, not really talking about selling
1:15:30
these guys right? We're talking about acquiring
1:15:32
the skills. But yeah, I wouldn't buy just
1:15:34
because of the, yeah, probably 1 risk and just he's been
1:15:36
performing way too high. Him and he's the most kind of
1:15:39
like, OK, overperforming, but then radish, I guess.
1:15:42
I still really, I'm still really happy to have Hagel, though, by
1:15:45
the way, like he was my signature pig.
1:15:46
Like I tried to drop Hagel on every lead that I could.
1:15:49
I didn't end up with enough of him, to be honest, but I'm
1:15:52
really happy with him. I just think that he's such a
1:15:54
selfish that you have to capitalize on that.
1:15:56
But if I'm stuck with Hagel going into playoffs, Oh no, I
1:15:59
have a amazing player on my team.
1:16:01
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's just not the guy I
1:16:03
wanna buy if you're training by any of the top trade.
1:16:06
Away yeah no exactly for the price pretty much yeah Darren
1:16:09
radish I think at this point like I mean I've been for a
1:16:12
while like confident he's keeping power play one overhead
1:16:15
men so I'm in my mind that's not a worry at all.
1:16:18
I think I think just the entire team is going to regress a bit
1:16:21
just because of how insanely they've been producing.
1:16:23
But that doesn't mean they're gonna regress to a level where
1:16:25
you're not still extremely happy to have them.
1:16:28
But because of how unreal he's been.
1:16:30
I still think that like he's probably hard too hard to
1:16:32
attain. But you know there's the fact
1:16:34
that he still doesn't have that name right he's kind of still
1:16:37
like everyone. You know people are like how the
1:16:38
heck is this guy doing this right.
1:16:39
So if the person who owns him is just like is thinking like oh I
1:16:43
wanna sell high on him now before you know Hedman comes
1:16:45
back whatever you know all that then maybe you can get him for a
1:16:48
decent price. Like what would you be willing
1:16:50
to give for for radish? Would you give chicken?
1:16:53
Yes, I would to miss if Darren Radish is not the 5th best
1:16:57
defenseman in fancy rest of season.
1:16:58
He's the 6th best defenseman fantasy to me it's it's I'm just
1:17:02
talking like pure value. It's like Macar, Quinn Hughes,
1:17:05
Evan Bouchard, Oranski. And then after that, I'm like is
1:17:10
between Darlene and Darren Radish, like maybe you have a
1:17:13
preference, but after that, like I feel like there's there's a
1:17:17
clear tier gap and anybody behind that I'd be willing to
1:17:21
trade with Garage because he already has the great playoff
1:17:24
schedule. Yeah, you doing?
1:17:25
You're doing Bushard? If I'm, if I have Bouchard, I
1:17:28
feel like you could do Bouchard, get radish plus and I would
1:17:30
absolutely try to do that. Yeah, yeah, depending on the
1:17:33
plus, but like 1. For one.
1:17:37
Yes. I actually like that a lot.
1:17:39
Yes, yeah. And I think I could get done.
1:17:41
Yeah. And then the last ones, Brayden
1:17:43
Point, obviously. He's talked so much.
1:17:45
About her Barlow. Yeah, yeah, because I think he's
1:17:49
coming back after the Olympic brother.
1:17:51
Sorry, yeah. So I think he was turning it on
1:17:57
like right before he got injured.
1:17:59
So, yeah, I think that he's going to be a a great, a great
1:18:03
buy if you can get him, especially from a team that's
1:18:05
fighting for playoffs, right. And kind of forgot to take the
1:18:07
risk on if he misses an extra week after coming back from the
1:18:09
Olympic break. They've been doing this insane
1:18:12
without their second best player.
1:18:14
Just nuts. It makes no sense and that's
1:18:16
like the only reason I'm like. Interested.
1:18:18
Healthy the whole season. First player.
1:18:24
Exactly alright, and. Then lastly, we've got the
1:18:29
Seattle Kraken, pretty much the only two players I think worth
1:18:33
trading for our Jared McCann and Vince Dunn.
1:18:35
But Jared McCann I think has been way too hot to trade for
1:18:37
right now. And then Vince Dunn, I think
1:18:41
he's he's always attainable. Who would you trade for for
1:18:44
done? I think, I don't think these are
1:18:46
guys you're trading for with the purpose of trading for them.
1:18:48
I think these are guys you include in a package that you're
1:18:50
trying to trade someone else. Like let's say you're trying to
1:18:52
acquire Britain points and the guy also as like ovens that are
1:18:55
McCann, you make it a 2 for two and that's kind of how you
1:18:57
approach the situation one for one.
1:18:59
I feel like, you know, you could be like a Zuccarello for McCann.
1:19:02
I would do that if. You're looking.
1:19:03
Cloud like if these other players like 22 to 24, these are
1:19:07
these are lower stakes players like this is.
1:19:09
Like have Dorothea from McCann. Yeah, I would do that.
1:19:14
Hold on. Let me think, would you do Tuck
1:19:19
from McCann or is that too much of A an overpay?
1:19:22
I think I'll do that. I like McCann.
1:19:24
I like him a lot. Also what the playoff schedule
1:19:27
difference. Yeah.
1:19:28
And like I feel like I gotta get Tuck off my team If if I have
1:19:31
like Tuck and I'm playing hard to 24, that's it.
1:19:35
Like that's the only issue. I don't want to get him off my
1:19:37
team but I don't want to like I want to get full value so.
1:19:42
Crazy because Dave is A335, McCann has a 337.
1:19:48
So you're getting two extra games in the finals, but I feel
1:19:50
like I could get two extra power play points and two less games
1:19:55
with Dorothea, if that makes sense.
1:19:58
I think the volume that like the seven over the 210 day span is
1:20:03
like really? Good.
1:20:03
Yeah, I'm not for sure. I think you could get end up
1:20:07
getting one extra point or two extra points from McCann, but
1:20:10
you can get two extra points, two extra power play points from
1:20:13
over that stretch. And I think you can end up being
1:20:15
the same shots. And so I'm taking the gutters on
1:20:18
the better play that I know that at any given any given game,
1:20:21
like they could really pop off. And do I expect Seattle to be as
1:20:24
strong at the end of the season? I don't know.
1:20:27
I don't think so. I'm leaning.
1:20:28
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I look, I do think that
1:20:30
mechanism major cell high, like I think it's also squirming.
1:20:33
Yeah, he's squishy and he's a cell high.
1:20:35
I just feel like like I'm willing to part with door faith
1:20:39
for it. Like I think Dorsey is better
1:20:41
than McCain. That's not that's not the
1:20:42
argument. The question is, is it worth for
1:20:43
the playoff schedule? And I think that it's worth it
1:20:45
for the playoff. Schedule if he had an edge in
1:20:47
like multiple playoff weeds, I think I'd agree with you because
1:20:50
it's all in one week and it's and it's the week with the
1:20:53
highest the highest volume as well.
1:20:54
We're like the averages average out more.
1:20:57
I'm less inclined. That's my.
1:20:58
Logic. Yeah, I think, I think that
1:21:00
makes perfect sense. But I think that's a close one.
1:21:01
I wouldn't fault fault you either way.
1:21:03
What do you do for Vince Dunn? Uh.
1:21:10
I don't think Zara. No, probably not.
1:21:13
OK, because you taught us have I think they have six games in the
1:21:15
finals. So it's still it's still good
1:21:19
compared to a lot of teams that have five games.
1:21:20
It's just that semifinal week is disastrous because this they got
1:21:24
two games there. Yeah, but Seattle's only got
1:21:28
Chili's got 3. So it's like one extra game of
1:21:30
of done over Circuit Chef in the semifinals for like and then
1:21:35
they have an extra game in the finals.
1:21:38
I don't know. Personally I would take done.
1:21:40
I think again, this is another case where I prefer Sergachev
1:21:43
overdone, but with the playoff schedule 2 weeks.
1:21:46
Done enough flowers for his value.
1:21:49
I mean, look, I'm not the biggest done fan, but I mean
1:21:53
he's locked into power play one on Seattle now that's the most
1:21:56
best place in the world. But Seattle is also trying to
1:21:58
acquire some offence. You know, I wouldn't be
1:22:00
surprised if they if they buy they tried to get Panarin.
1:22:02
They had the best offer for Panarin.
1:22:03
He just decided he didn't want to go to Seattle.
1:22:05
But if he had, if he didn't have no move clause would be a
1:22:08
cracking right now. So, um, I think that Don has
1:22:11
some interest there and I would do circuit chef for done if
1:22:13
you're playoffs week 22 to 24. Well, let's go to the to the top
1:22:17
trade away targets. Through these quicker because we
1:22:20
definitely named a lot of them. Already we already did a lot of
1:22:22
would you rathers. Yeah, exactly.
1:22:24
So first we have Buffalo, Alex Tuck, Rasmus Dahlin, Tage
1:22:28
Thompson, Mattias Samuelsson. I just need to, I need to get
1:22:31
one name out of you guys for Alex talk.
1:22:33
Like who are we sending Alex stock for?
1:22:34
Because I feel like I keep throwing him out.
1:22:35
You guys like, Nah, that's not good enough for him.
1:22:37
I. Will send for Brett.
1:22:39
OK, I would do. That I would send the perfect
1:22:43
target on my. Mind about it?
1:22:44
There we go. We found this, Jake.
1:22:45
That is. It's always the answer.
1:22:47
Yeah. I actually, I, I think you can
1:22:49
aim even like I think I'd rather Dylan Cousins and you could get
1:22:52
Dylan Cousins. Over Batherson.
1:22:55
Uh, yeah, I think so. Especially in a face off sleep,
1:22:59
the shots are more reliable. I don't.
1:23:00
Know yeah, the shots are more reliable.
1:23:02
I think the points are more reliable from bathers inside,
1:23:05
but also I think I think that target the one you need to
1:23:08
position more pure C versus the left wing right wing, which are
1:23:11
the ones your team structure better.
1:23:12
I think I would aim for those guys if you can flip them for
1:23:15
brilliant point. I think point Batherson BS for
1:23:19
Brad are like the main targets I'd be trying to go for if I
1:23:21
have Alex talk. Not only are you getting your
1:23:23
flipping a bad playoff schedule for good playoff schedule,
1:23:25
you're flipping a cell high for a buy low.
1:23:28
And I think something powerful too for your play 1.
1:23:30
Exactly. So those are really things that
1:23:32
we try to do and I mean, there's probably a lot of names went to
1:23:36
the whole league, but. Yeah, yeah, I know.
1:23:37
I'm happy with that. I just, I needed like cause
1:23:39
because my advice to anyone who has talk is I'm trying to sell
1:23:41
it for week 2024 like I'm trying to, I mean always.
1:23:44
Yeah, exactly. So we just needed to get some
1:23:46
names out. There crazy idea wouldn't do
1:23:48
this but if you get Will Smith plus I actually like I wouldn't
1:23:52
do this for one for one because I think you could do get more
1:23:54
but Will Smith I wouldn't be surprised if he alone has a
1:23:57
better finish to the season than tuck.
1:23:59
I know that's crazy but I like more lowkey.
1:24:03
My favorite thing to do with Alex Tuck is use him as a 2 for
1:24:07
one piece and getting a one because I think he holds a lot
1:24:10
of value. Like people like Alex talk.
1:24:12
Yeah, his production is always there too.
1:24:14
There's just a lack of power play one.
1:24:16
But a lot of people don't put as much stock into that when they
1:24:18
see his points level pretty high.
1:24:20
So if you can do like talk plus, you know, talk plus Keller for
1:24:24
you could get maybe like Brady could Chuck or something or like
1:24:27
a Matthew could Chuck. I feel like that's feasible.
1:24:29
You know, like you're you're getting into that top level
1:24:32
player. I think talk is an Ave. that
1:24:34
allows you to do that. I would try to do that.
1:24:36
I was saying the opposite. I was like, I talked for like a
1:24:38
Will Smith and a. You could go both ways.
1:24:41
And tip it, you know, I think that could work.
1:24:43
But I like using talk to. I was like consolidating more
1:24:45
than the opposite, yeah. But yeah, I think that, yeah.
1:24:49
And you're league and all that stuff.
1:24:51
All right, next we have Toronto. John Tavares, Matthew Nyes,
1:24:54
Nielander, Austin Matthews. I mean, I don't think Tavares
1:24:57
and Eyes have much trade value these days.
1:24:59
They just not very good. So I wouldn't be trying to sell
1:25:02
them just because I don't think you could get much in return.
1:25:04
Neulander, I think we've talked about way too much for me.
1:25:07
Who are you? Who are you sending Matthews
1:25:10
for? We talked about Celebri as a
1:25:12
target. Is there any other of these
1:25:15
names that you? Do it for Brady.
1:25:17
Always trying to pull Manger league.
1:25:18
I would absolutely trade for Brady, I think.
1:25:20
Is attainable shots, hits. Yeah.
1:25:22
I think it's attainable for sure.
1:25:23
I think Matthew still has a lot of name value.
1:25:25
The thing is Brady's been pretty good with the points to like
1:25:27
he's been close to a point per game where that's not usually in
1:25:29
his bag. But like the Shasa hits the face
1:25:32
off wins the power play points of all been there.
1:25:36
I I think it's. More like a what did you do,
1:25:38
Matthew Kuchuk or is that I think?
1:25:40
That's too low. Too low.
1:25:42
Yeah, I think so too. I.
1:25:44
Agree so too, but what I wanted to do was I know.
1:25:47
Suzuki is like a really close one.
1:25:49
Like, I don't know. If somebody did that trade,
1:25:50
remember I said it like they traded in Austin Matthews for
1:25:53
Nick Suzuki and they were happy about it.
1:25:55
Yeah, I still think that. Come on, you're caught on the
1:25:58
production too hard. Yeah.
1:26:01
I think the shots and the blocks, you know, that's like
1:26:05
something from audience. So I'd say the two main ones for
1:26:09
improving your playoff schedule. I'd be targeting Celebrity and
1:26:11
Chuck. Would you do for truck use?
1:26:13
You could get Jacques plus Would You Do It Plus plus Drake
1:26:17
Batherson. Pro.
1:26:20
Fusion. Batherson.
1:26:21
Year old Batherson bedroom. Look, if Q is healthy, I love
1:26:27
that trade. That's, uh, it's a big.
1:26:30
I think it only gets done because he has the.
1:26:32
Ambiguity 100 percent, 100%. You know what I think?
1:26:35
I think I do that. I think I do that, especially
1:26:38
the 2 great playoff schedules like I think that's.
1:26:41
A losing on shots and you're not losing on power play points.
1:26:45
On face offs are usually not a thing in leagues in.
1:26:48
Most leagues, yeah. Yeah, Leader walks and you're
1:26:50
losing, getting goals and points.
1:26:52
Yeah and he's getting 2 face off wins from the wing is like
1:26:55
almost as valuable as like Matthews getting like 10 from
1:26:58
the centre position. Yeah, because you just because
1:27:02
then you can just pick up another centre, right?
1:27:05
Fair. Yeah, I suppose.
1:27:06
Yeah. OK.
1:27:06
I would do that trade too. Yeah, OK.
1:27:09
OK, then we had the Islanders. So Matthew Schaefer, Matt
1:27:13
Barzel, Bohor Fat, I think the biggest name here.
1:27:16
You gotta trade Matt Barzel. He is just 1.2 points per game
1:27:19
over the past month. Bad playoff schedule, huge sell
1:27:23
high. Who are we?
1:27:24
Who are we selling Barsel for? What's the highest you think we
1:27:26
can get for him? Batherson That's not the
1:27:30
highest. I think you can aim higher.
1:27:31
You can aim higher I think. Brilliant point.
1:27:34
Yeah, he's. Yeah, I would definitely do a
1:27:37
dew point. I mean the things you mentioned
1:27:39
before are obviously the buy low, so you wanna always aim for
1:27:41
like sell high buy low. But is there a world where you
1:27:45
can get like Marty Natures if you did a package like Barzal
1:27:48
Plus? I think it would have to be a
1:27:51
like Barcelona Batherson forever.
1:27:54
Nature. I think that's all crazy.
1:27:56
And that could get done possibly and I would.
1:27:59
Like a cool coffield. I was just gonna say Cofield.
1:28:02
I mean, I would love that. I don't know if it gets done,
1:28:04
but if you can pull that off over the past, yeah, I would do
1:28:08
that too. Would you do connect me?
1:28:11
Yeah, yeah, I would. Yeah, and those are all great
1:28:14
names and I think Barcel has a lot of pull right now.
1:28:16
He's got the name and he's 1.2 points from last month so he's
1:28:19
great. Alright, let's go to Washington.
1:28:22
We've got John Carlson, Dylan Strome, Alex Ovechkin, Tom
1:28:25
Wilson and Jacob Chicken as usual were team, get John
1:28:30
Carlson off your team and I would take almost almost anyone
1:28:35
for Carlson. Honestly, I feel like I'm trying
1:28:38
to think like the worst guy like that I would take for Carlson.
1:28:42
Samuelson. I mean it sounds it also has the
1:28:46
bad schedule and so, but honestly I'd rather have someone
1:28:48
on my team. Well, that makes me feel nice.
1:28:52
Honestly, I'd rather have a client on my team than Carlson.
1:28:56
I'm. Very proud.
1:28:57
Caitlin Carlson. Hmm, like I think that I think
1:29:02
value wise, like Carlson has way more trade value than Eckland.
1:29:05
Yeah, he does. I think you could do a lot
1:29:06
better, but who would I rather have my team come playoffs.
1:29:09
If you're Week 22 to 24, I'd rather have.
1:29:11
That I have a perfect name for you.
1:29:12
Justin Faulk, I was just looking at that, and that's tough.
1:29:17
That's good because the folks around the best category
1:29:19
coverage, it comes in waves. It's like some which will be
1:29:21
good at blocks on weeks. He'll get you straight zeros.
1:29:23
He's never gonna hits. The shots are kind of
1:29:25
fluctuating. The points also like on the
1:29:27
season that .5 but like recently that like point.
1:29:29
Eight, yeah, that's tough because he is probably 1,
1:29:33
whereas Carlson isn't. And Saint Louis has a great
1:29:35
house schedule. But like, I just don't have any
1:29:38
faith in full. I just think you could get
1:29:39
better. Yeah, I think you could get
1:29:41
better. That was I was looking at that
1:29:43
name also. Would you like, I'm trying to do
1:29:45
probably one for Seth Jones. I was about like eating like I
1:29:49
was about to say 5 Carlson and I have a free IR spot.
1:29:52
I'm trading for Seth Jones. I'd rather like.
1:29:55
I think the downside of losing Carlson for nothing is so worth
1:29:59
the upside of getting Seth Jones for him.
1:30:01
So I think that's a perfect one. Yep.
1:30:04
And then for these other ones, I think chicken you can try and
1:30:09
get pretty much like chicken for radish we had mentioned.
1:30:13
I think that could. Get it gets done.
1:30:14
You don't think? So no, I don't think.
1:30:16
So I think chickens got name value and I think he's probably
1:30:19
like two or three defensemen down on the list of top
1:30:21
defensemen after after radish. And I think in some leagues,
1:30:24
like the radish owner, just like sometimes you're sometimes
1:30:27
you're holding these guys and like you're enjoying the ride,
1:30:29
but in your back of your head you're like this guy's
1:30:32
overperforming. I should probably sell high.
1:30:33
So if someone gives you the opportunity to kind of cash out
1:30:36
for like a safer bet, I think it's possible.
1:30:38
I think Jake Sanderson's more attainable than radish.
1:30:41
Really. I'll be able then.
1:30:43
Yeah, I would definitely do that.
1:30:45
I like that as well. I think it's really.
1:30:46
Good one. Would you?
1:30:47
Would you do it for Lynn Hudson or Dougie Hamilton?
1:30:50
Definitely feline Hudson and honestly, yeah, probably for
1:30:54
Doug. Yeah, I like, I'm sorry, it's
1:30:56
trying to trying to wipe away the whole beginning of the
1:30:59
season where he was terrible, but like.
1:31:01
Your expectations. I'm just like, he's here, baby.
1:31:04
Yeah. Hey, I'll trade them to you for
1:31:07
if you want, you know? I got Eric Carlson with your
1:31:10
name on him. Thank you.
1:31:16
Samuelson. OK, now we're talking my only
1:31:18
two. Yeah, yeah.
1:31:21
So then, then we've got Vegas. So Pavel Dorothea, Thomas
1:31:24
Hurdle, Mark Stone, Mitch Marner, Jack Eichel.
1:31:27
I do feel the need to say that Tom Wilson, we barely touched on
1:31:30
him, but like he's an elite fantasy.
1:31:31
He hasn't and bangers leagues like even through the bad
1:31:33
playoff schedule. I'm not really trying to look to
1:31:35
get rid of him to be. Honest, yeah, yeah, I agree.
1:31:36
Because what he does you just can't replace even with like one
1:31:39
more game or whatever like. If you could, Tom Wilson
1:31:43
attracts use. I mean, it really depends what
1:31:47
your team needs, right? We're talking bangers, cats.
1:31:49
Leaves. We're talking Pimms and like
1:31:51
hits, obviously. I mean, I still think cues is
1:31:54
more valuable, but I think or no, yeah, I think Q is is more
1:31:57
valuable when healthy. Again, big asterisk there.
1:32:00
But Wilson is less replaceable, if that makes sense.
1:32:03
Yeah, like the archetype of player is just like he hasn't
1:32:06
been that good for points like like last month, you know, like
1:32:08
he's been like like at point like 75 or something.
1:32:11
But like he's over 2 Pimms, like over two shots, like over two
1:32:14
hits, like he does it all. I mean, I still take Jack Hughes
1:32:16
over him. But like if your if your team is
1:32:18
like a really strong points team and that's not what you need,
1:32:20
there are situations where I'd be like, even though it is a
1:32:23
better player, it doesn't make my team.
1:32:25
Would you trade them for Matthew Patrick?
1:32:27
Yeah, I'll take a truck. OK, what about Reinhart?
1:32:31
Yeah, I'll take Reinhart. OK, let's go to Vegas.
1:32:34
Like this yeah. So I pretty much just named the
1:32:36
five forward power play on Vegas.
1:32:37
Yeah, I mean, I feel like the biggest name is Mark Stone,
1:32:40
right? Like he's like 1.5 on like the
1:32:42
season points per game. It's just been absurd.
1:32:44
I think at this point he's just is absurd.
1:32:46
I don't think he's gonna be this crazy to finish out the season,
1:32:49
but he's definitely gonna be a point for game easily.
1:32:52
But who are we trading him for for to improve the playoff
1:32:54
schedule without losing value? I think this like you can name
1:32:58
super high with them. Do you think Matthew could Chuck
1:32:59
over over over stone? With the schedule, with the
1:33:04
schedule difference, I think that's what gives it the edge.
1:33:08
I think specifically like what really doesn't count penalty
1:33:10
minutes, that's one of Schuck's big, big assets is his Pimms.
1:33:16
No stones. Stones weren't so good all
1:33:18
season. But the playoffs?
1:33:20
I think I'm still, I think I'm still taking Matica truck.
1:33:22
I think that you're getting an extra game in the quarters and
1:33:24
actually in the semifinals and the same amount of games in the
1:33:26
finals. It's not like a huge difference
1:33:28
when you're really putting it on aggregate.
1:33:30
But I do think with the added element that I could see Stone
1:33:33
being held out for any kind of time.
1:33:36
Like if there's anything with him, like they won't risk it,
1:33:39
right? Like they're going to make the
1:33:40
playoffs. I think construct I I really
1:33:44
think the plants are gonna try to finish strong.
1:33:46
So I'm I'm banking on them going full force and potentially Vegas
1:33:51
like, you know, pushing the brakes a little bit if they need
1:33:53
to. Yeah, I would do that.
1:33:54
I think they're close enough to do.
1:33:56
It I'll take a check as well. Vegas literally has zero
1:34:00
competition in their whole division.
1:34:01
I mean like they have the Oilers, but like.
1:34:04
Looking for overall seeding. Yeah, exactly.
1:34:07
It's just it's I could definitely see them resting some
1:34:10
guys. And Mark Stone is the prime rest
1:34:12
candidate for for this team. You know, like wrap him in
1:34:15
bubble wrap for for the last week and then have him ready.
1:34:18
For playoffs, yeah, of course, if that happens.
1:34:22
I mean, you can't predict it, but like if I had to guess who
1:34:25
on this team is most likely to get rested, I'm guessing Mark.
1:34:28
Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
1:34:31
What about uh yeah, Yeah. I'll just say Hurdle, like I
1:34:34
feel like he's the quote UN quote potentially least valuable
1:34:36
out of the bunch given his line 3C and PowerPoint one.
1:34:39
Absolutely. I think Brock Nelson is a
1:34:41
fantastic name. I think you could probably get
1:34:43
maybe Britton Point too. I mean, we keep mentioning the
1:34:45
below guys, but I'd still do that.
1:34:48
Don't Cousins. Drink Batherson.
1:34:53
I mean, I would, yeah. Yeah.
1:34:55
Jimmy all these old. Guys, Yeah, obviously one note
1:34:58
is if your league counts face off wins, he's a winger with
1:35:00
faceoff wins, so here's a good one to count, but.
1:35:03
Yeah, Perler Zagreus. I think I'm going to hurdle even
1:35:07
with the playoff. Schedule.
1:35:09
Schedule difference I still think.
1:35:10
I think the difference in value is too big there.
1:35:12
Hurdle or Slough? Sloth.
1:35:14
Sloth. Yeah, he's gonna have it all.
1:35:17
Finish Hurdle. I think I'm taking Hurdle over.
1:35:20
That hurdle from you too. Yeah, although Domino's.
1:35:23
Jerry McCann. I think I heard a little from
1:35:26
again. OK, gonna lot.
1:35:29
You want you want me kanji. Yeah, even though I feel weird
1:35:31
going I don't know of. But it's crazy either still
1:35:36
hurting. I get it though, He's he's more,
1:35:40
he's more talismanic to his team.
1:35:43
Patterson. Hurdle, let's go to the next
1:35:47
team. Alright, next we've got the
1:35:50
Utah. So we've got Nick Schmaltz.
1:35:52
We mentioned him a bunch. Michael Sergachev mentioned a
1:35:53
bunch, Dylan Guenther, Clayton Keller.
1:35:55
I feel we've given good names for all these.
1:35:57
Like the Keller Coffield 1 was my favorite for him.
1:35:59
We mentioned a bunch Schmaltz as well.
1:36:01
So I think we could kind of skip over this one.
1:36:05
I just want one thing on Schmaltz though, like is he a
1:36:08
must sell right now before the Logan County comes back?
1:36:11
Because I think there's a chance that it stays the same even
1:36:13
when. Comes back.
1:36:14
I don't think Cooley coming back is the end of Nick Schmaltz's
1:36:17
fantasy relevance for this year. I think Nick Schmaltz has been
1:36:19
fantasy relevant even with cooling in the lineup.
1:36:21
I think the only thing he's going to really lose out on his
1:36:23
face off wins. But like other than that and
1:36:25
like maybe he'll take a bit of a dip at points, but he's not
1:36:27
losing his deployment. He's gonna be like one power
1:36:29
play one. If anything, he'll have a better
1:36:31
line, mate. Now, you know, like, so I think
1:36:33
that I don't think it's a must sell in the sense of Logan
1:36:36
Cooley coming back. I think he's more of a must sell
1:36:38
in the sense of bad playoff schedule plus overperforming.
1:36:41
So that's more where I'm worried about the coolest stuff.
1:36:43
Doesn't doesn't worry me. Shows that two games in the
1:36:45
semifinals is like really tough to hold onto when you know you
1:36:48
could probably trade them right now for someone that has like 4
1:36:51
games. And that's what I'm trying to
1:36:53
keep in mind for the viewers and when our trade targets.
1:36:56
Yeah. I feel like right now you can
1:36:58
comfortably get Will Smith and then sooner than later you're
1:37:01
going to get William Ragland. So your dog is always preferred
1:37:05
down grading Williams on the sharks.
1:37:07
If you hold too long, which smells and I I know what you're
1:37:10
saying, Josh is like it could go down, but like it won't go down
1:37:13
too much with Cooley coming back, but there is a chance that
1:37:16
he's just been super good. Anyways, you know what I.
1:37:18
Mean, yeah, no, he's definitely, he's definitely over performing.
1:37:20
I just mean that like, I think he's gonna regress just in
1:37:23
general, not because of Cooley fair the Oilers.
1:37:28
Let's go to Edmonton. We've got again the power play 1
1:37:31
unit Nugent, Hopkins, Hyman, Bouchard recital McDavid.
1:37:34
I mean, we've talked about Nuja bunch as like someone he's
1:37:37
someone we're really trying to move off of.
1:37:38
We've thrown Heinen's name out there a few times for Bouchard.
1:37:41
I think you're only you're only doing it if you're getting like
1:37:43
a macar, like like we said, if you can get radish plus, I mean,
1:37:48
do you know any of the other top guys?
1:37:50
But I mean, like Hugh Quinn, he uses the same bad playoff
1:37:52
schedules. Bouchard.
1:37:53
So that's kind of like lateral. Warenski has like a mid
1:37:57
schedule. So you'd probably be gaining
1:37:58
like one game. Um, so like in terms of like
1:38:00
good playoff schedule, I'd say the biggest target in the car.
1:38:02
And I think like Bouchard, possibly one for one or Bouchard
1:38:06
plus like I think you get done with the difference in how
1:38:08
they've been playing. Hudson +2.
1:38:11
Yeah, I like that too. What?
1:38:13
The playoff schedule. For an ambush plus radish.
1:38:16
Plus always, yeah, just tossing Batherson and we're good.
1:38:21
And then in terms of the two big boys of Drian McDavid, it's
1:38:26
either McKinnon or Kucherov, right?
1:38:27
That's that's pretty much it. Yeah, or like Brady Plus.
1:38:32
Or celebrating plus. The Yeah, true, true, yeah.
1:38:36
Yeah. If you have a Nugent Hopkins
1:38:39
though, who's the worst player you'd be able to trade them for?
1:38:42
I mean, I would take McCann over Nugent Hopkins.
1:38:44
But might be the worst part to be able to do, yeah.
1:38:46
I would take Demidov and I just established reluctantly that I'm
1:38:51
higher on McCann and Demidov, so I think I would take Demidov
1:38:53
over nude as well. Yeah, would you?
1:38:58
Do it for Dylan Holloway. I think that the injury is
1:39:05
sketchy. I probably wouldn't unless it's
1:39:07
confirmed that he's back after the Olympics.
1:39:09
I don't think the the reward is worth the risk on that one
1:39:13
because I think like if Holloway is healthy, I think you could
1:39:16
still pull that trade off. So I don't think you have to do
1:39:17
it while it's one of those where like take advantage while he's
1:39:20
injured. Like it's like you can afford
1:39:21
assuming your trade deadline is not that late.
1:39:23
Like people have their trade deadlines like before the like
1:39:25
when ours is like February 25th. Like that's all.
1:39:28
I don't get a lot of content after the Olympics.
1:39:31
For sure I wouldn't take the risk on Holloway.
1:39:33
I just even though I love all the way I have on my team and
1:39:35
I'm expecting hoping big things, but I just think it's worth the.
1:39:38
Risk, I think one of the best names that I would target is yes
1:39:41
for Brett because I think the sentiment is so low.
1:39:43
If you can make that flip, I think that's your golden right
1:39:46
there. I think that's also like a low
1:39:47
risk trade because I don't think you're losing that much in terms
1:39:49
of production from nudge. But I think the sentiment around
1:39:51
is positive because like he's been kind of consistent at this
1:39:54
level where you're expecting more, giving you less, and it's
1:39:57
still kind of close to nude. I think that's a great one.
1:40:00
I mean, nothing news like brothers.
1:40:01
He's mine, he's mine three. You know, like when?
1:40:03
Everyone hurdle but on a worse. Situation.
1:40:05
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
1:40:07
So it hurts like he's definitely my my number one.
1:40:09
Get him off your team. Yeah, All right.
1:40:11
Lastly, we've got Minnesota, Matt Zuccarello, Joel Ericsson,
1:40:14
Ek Matt Boldy, Quinn Hughes, Presov Zuccarello obviously the
1:40:18
biggest sell high. Like I said, he's .5 PowerPoint
1:40:20
to the past month point per game.
1:40:21
Like him, I would send for like so many of them.
1:40:24
I mean, we've talked about him a lot, right?
1:40:25
Like I would send him for almost anyone that we mentioned in the
1:40:28
in the trade targets. Again, you like, who's the
1:40:31
lowest guy would go? I mean, I like the McCann one
1:40:34
Um, as a guy, I would go to one more thing because I think I
1:40:38
would take the shot on Holloway. I think I would take the shot of
1:40:40
Hollywood Grello. Fair enough.
1:40:42
I'm just the shots hits combo with like potential.
1:40:44
Like I think that that's a good one.
1:40:45
I think I would. I would send them for every name
1:40:49
except for Justin Faulk. Yeah, exactly.
1:40:53
Honestly. You do it for echo and I think
1:40:56
that's kind of close to. It is close, but I think echo in
1:41:00
could. Have would the playoff?
1:41:01
Would San Jose have the best playoff schedule?
1:41:03
I think I do that. Yeah.
1:41:05
I mean, you said, yeah, I think that I would definitely.
1:41:07
Do this if you have, if you're rostering on waivers, so.
1:41:11
Yeah, that's fair. That is fair to get to.
1:41:15
Yeah, exactly. I feel like we talked about
1:41:18
Queen Hughes, very similar to Bouchard.
1:41:20
You're targeting like Makar or like you know like some of those
1:41:22
like Radish Plus or Hudson Plus type of things.
1:41:25
Kaprizov, we talked about like we talked about Celebri could be
1:41:29
offered Brady Kuchuk, would you guys do that?
1:41:31
Yeah, I would. I would do that.
1:41:32
Obviously we're talking like full bangers, cats, full
1:41:35
bangers, but obviously. Schedule different.
1:41:37
Yeah. And obviously draws like if you
1:41:39
could do episode plus for coach, that would be great.
1:41:41
Would you do boldly for nachos? Yeah, I love that.
1:41:45
I mean, that's a That's a perfect name, Yeah.
1:41:47
There's a lot of teams in the middle here that we didn't talk
1:41:49
about, but like, I I would still do Caprisa for Pasta.
1:41:53
Yeah, if that's feasible for you.
1:41:55
I know Boston doesn't have as good of a playoff schedule in
1:41:58
Week 24 compared to what they were doing in the Week 21 to 23,
1:42:02
but they have one bus, has one less game than Minnesota in the
1:42:07
Finals, but they have one more game in the quarters in the
1:42:10
semis, so. It's still in that overall this
1:42:12
is not as big a jump as what we've been talking about, but
1:42:15
yeah, definitely I would do that.
1:42:16
And then, yeah, I think nature's body was a great one.
1:42:19
And then you mentioned. Bullies when I wanna ask you
1:42:22
questions about because we haven't talked about building
1:42:25
forever, it feels like, I feel like he's always like round two
1:42:27
player Matt Baldy. We're just giving him his
1:42:29
flowers, but nobody's actually talking about him.
1:42:33
Where do you rank him? Like, are you, are you training
1:42:35
boldly for Matthew Chuck? I feel like that's feasible.
1:42:38
I would take a Chuck, yeah. Would you do boldly for Brandon
1:42:41
Hagel? No, I wouldn't do that.
1:42:46
Wait, you're. Saying I have body trade for
1:42:49
Brandon Hagel. Yeah, I.
1:42:51
Because you're going to play off jump there, you're getting your
1:42:53
training wheels for good playoff schedule.
1:42:55
Fair, Yeah. I'll do body for cancel.
1:43:00
That may be surprising world people.
1:43:01
Better than cancel, but like I agree, cancel safer.
1:43:04
So like I would probably I'm with you there.
1:43:06
And I'll say with that one, I think body is better than
1:43:09
Gensel, but it's just the playoff schedule that's one of
1:43:11
those like giving up a bit of value for the better schedule.
1:43:14
What about? What about Cofield?
1:43:18
I have you 2 at this time. I would do that field just for
1:43:22
the playoff schedule again. Like I'd rather have body if it
1:43:24
was the same schedule. Tim stuff, right?
1:43:27
Yeah. Just one I would just settle as
1:43:29
well. Let's go to the goalies.
1:43:31
All right, let's go to the goalie section.
1:43:33
So the way we rank the goalies is essentially it's games played
1:43:37
and then subtracting any back to backs, obviously not going to
1:43:39
play that. And then there's good matchups.
1:43:42
So essentially we took the bottom ten goals for teams,
1:43:45
which is very strong overlap with the bottom 10 league teams
1:43:47
in the league. And consider those good
1:43:49
matchups. You give those a lot, a lot of
1:43:51
weight. So like any game play does one
1:43:53
point and then a good match ups like .75 toss that all together
1:43:57
and come up with three tiers of goalies.
1:43:59
So I'll start with the A tier and then I'll go to the I'll say
1:44:04
the good ones and bad ones and anything I don't mention is in
1:44:06
the middle. So the good ones we've got
1:44:08
Colorado, San Jose, LA, Anaheim, Vegas, Chicago, Dallas, Utah.
1:44:14
And then the bad ones Columbus, Ottawa, Buffalo, Carolina,
1:44:19
Nashville, Boston, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Islanders, O top
1:44:24
goalies from the top teams. We got this is in order of best,
1:44:28
worst playoff schedule. But they're all in that top
1:44:30
tier. We've got Mackenzie Blackwood,
1:44:33
Darcy Kemper, Lucas Dostal, Aiden Hill, Spencer Knight, J
1:44:36
Godinger and Correll Velka. The Askerov shade right now that
1:44:41
I'm feeling. Is it didn't.
1:44:43
Include any crazy. Because I'm not convinced that
1:44:46
he's like getting more than 50% starts.
1:44:49
I think he's still the starter. I think you saw leading into the
1:44:52
break he had a bad game and then went back to him against.
1:44:55
Colorado, yeah. So that definitely is the one
1:44:57
that I, yeah, like I wouldn't consider him like a full
1:44:59
starter. Like I think all these other
1:45:00
guys I I listed are clear starters.
1:45:03
Yeah, that's fair, but I still I still want to just shut it up
1:45:07
because San Jose has such a good schedule.
1:45:08
I'm just saying this I have asked her on or should I think
1:45:11
in most leagues Astro is not rostered.
1:45:13
But come playoff time if he's on your way and need somebody to
1:45:16
stream like he will be a guy that's worth mentioning.
1:45:19
And I wouldn't be surprised if San Jose like has some good or
1:45:22
good run of games right after you Olympic break and is roster
1:45:25
presenter shoots up because we know San Jose has a good
1:45:27
strength of schedule end of season and also have a fantastic
1:45:30
week 22 to 24 fantasy playoff schedule.
1:45:33
So. I'm still keeping an eye out on
1:45:35
them making a trade like I know they already did the Sherwood
1:45:37
trade, but I think they're like, if they can find it like power
1:45:40
play 1 defenseman to target, like I think they're going to or
1:45:44
just honestly any NHL defensemen who would improve their their
1:45:48
decor and obviously that would help Askerov.
1:45:49
So I'm keeping an eye on that for sure.
1:45:51
I think it's a good note of these top goalies.
1:45:54
I think Darcy Kemper is the clearest Bi-lo.
1:45:57
He's been absolutely awful on my team.
1:46:00
But I think, you know, it stopped because we did the last
1:46:03
episode. I was like super high, like they
1:46:04
just got Panera and it's like now we're doing this episode and
1:46:06
Bella just got a season ending injury.
1:46:08
So I'm like, yeah, well, that's obviously an L Um, but I still
1:46:11
think that the, the outlook, like I think they'll be fighting
1:46:13
to the very end. It's more like the intention
1:46:15
behind. Like when they make a trade,
1:46:16
like the Panarin trade, they're signaling we are all in for the
1:46:21
next year or two. You know, like we are all in on
1:46:23
winning. We're not selling.
1:46:25
We're not, you know, half assing it or whatever.
1:46:27
Like, you know, like we're we're coming all the way and we're,
1:46:30
we're trying to win. So I think that's a really good
1:46:32
sign for Kemper owners and he's I think he's a great blow.
1:46:35
I think. What are some names you think
1:46:37
you get him pretty cheap Honestly, let me go to the
1:46:39
bottom goalies and we could we can mix and match and see which
1:46:42
ones we. Think, I do think the other big
1:46:44
billows, Aiden Hill, I think a lot of people are already given
1:46:47
up on him. I think he's been really awful
1:46:50
since coming back from injury and it was kind of like a split
1:46:52
with Akira Schmid. So I think people you either got
1:46:56
dropped in your league or people just hate him.
1:46:59
So I think his sentiment and tempers are are pretty similar
1:47:03
right now. Yes, no, I think that's a great
1:47:05
shout out. And honestly Spencer night, like
1:47:08
I don't think he has the same upside as Kemper and Hill
1:47:09
because he's just not on nearly as good A-Team.
1:47:12
But we saw he really got the start of the season and if he's
1:47:14
playing against easy opponents and getting a lot of starts and
1:47:17
we also all expect Bidard to kind of turn it on even like
1:47:19
after Olympics. So I think that's a good shout
1:47:21
as. Well, this is kind of.
1:47:22
I've used some situations where just like the owners hate these
1:47:25
guys and I have other sentiments were like people are just like
1:47:28
strong disappointed in these guys.
1:47:30
Think people hate Kemper, people hate Eden Hill, people are
1:47:33
disappointed and Spencer night. I think it feels like the
1:47:35
expectations of what you were expecting, like specific were so
1:47:38
good for you leading in the early seasons that we were like
1:47:41
so high, so high, so high. You could have got McKenzie
1:47:43
Black, but at the time or Jake Ottinger or whatever.
1:47:46
And now they're like OK, disappointed that like they're
1:47:48
not they're not gonna drop him. They don't have a vendetta
1:47:51
against him, but they could. Yeah, yeah.
1:47:54
No, no, I agree. The Kemper Hill hate is very
1:47:57
real. Yeah, yes, let's let's talk
1:48:00
about the bottom goalies and try and do some mix and matching for
1:48:03
for people who have them. So bottom goalies on these are
1:48:06
teams on The Who are don't have the good playoff schedules.
1:48:09
For goalies, we've got Elias Sorokin, Joseph Wall, Stuart
1:48:12
Skinner, Jeremy Swagman, UC Saros, Brandon Bussey, Alex
1:48:16
Lyon, Linus Omark and Jed Greaves.
1:48:20
Yeah. So who's the biggest cell high
1:48:21
here? I mean, obviously it's broken,
1:48:23
right? He's just been absolutely
1:48:25
absurd. Like 6 shutouts on the season.
1:48:27
Like feels like 4 shutouts in his last like 8 games but he's
1:48:30
been absurd. I think we're only getting on
1:48:32
anger back for that. And honestly, maybe the Melki
1:48:35
Blackwood you take black. I think Black was the best goal
1:48:39
you have for the fantasy playoffs.
1:48:40
Weeks 2123 and 22 to 24. Is no longer a tandem of sorts
1:48:45
at all, that means. So if that's the case, then
1:48:48
yeah, sure, I'll take Black 1 and Oranger and maybe even Melka
1:48:51
Plus. Yeah, Would you do?
1:48:56
Would you do Kemper or Hill? What I do Kemper or Hill for?
1:49:00
Silken, I don't think. Like plus because one for one
1:49:03
you wouldn't do that but. Temper plus Batherson.
1:49:06
For Sorokin, I don't think I would even do that.
1:49:08
I think you gotta. Get.
1:49:09
I think I'd consider. It field I would do that I
1:49:11
think. I think you need a little bit
1:49:15
higher because Sorokin's been like so good.
1:49:19
Financial terms of like stats. Cuz he actually is one of if not
1:49:23
the best goalies in the league. That's the thing.
1:49:25
And the islands are finally playing like they got Schaefer
1:49:28
and you know, they traded for Carson Sushi and pilot like all
1:49:30
these like, you know, like they they're wagon now, basically.
1:49:33
Yeah, that was a. Joke, but all in.
1:49:38
So I just think that there's like, definitely, you know, like
1:49:41
this is the highest point you'll be able to sell them.
1:49:43
So you may as well aim as high as you can.
1:49:44
They have the worst playoff schedule for goalies.
1:49:47
Like, yeah, he's gonna get potentially 3 starts in the
1:49:51
quarters, two starts in the in the semis and then three starts
1:49:55
in the finals. Like there's some that will end.
1:49:58
Up only two good matchups on all of that.
1:50:01
Yeah, so it's like the matchups are hard and the quantity is
1:50:05
bad. So one bad game will really
1:50:07
influence your categories. The goal is at that point.
1:50:10
So I think it's just like it's a high risk situation holding on
1:50:13
to him, hoping that he's gonna be delivering the performance
1:50:15
that he's already been doing in the in your championship finals
1:50:19
or semis, right? I think I'm absolutely trying to
1:50:22
like, yes, it's maybe a risk training for goalie that's been
1:50:25
worse right now, like way worse. But if you can get a significant
1:50:28
player upgrade, I'm really trying to do that right.
1:50:30
Now for camper fair, but for like Hill, no, like hills, like
1:50:36
like I'm one of those like I I have given up on hill, like the
1:50:40
percentages are gonna be horrible.
1:50:41
I still, I think, despite the fact that he may get some wins,
1:50:45
but like he'll he'll finish the game like 16 saves on 19 shots
1:50:49
and a win type thing. You know what I mean?
1:50:52
I can see that for sure. Yeah, Yeah.
1:50:54
Who else on these on this cell list is a big I mean.
1:50:59
I think Stuart Skinner swimming wall like busy is the big one.
1:51:03
He's he doesn't lose games. This guy does his win.
1:51:06
Yeah. All he does is win.
1:51:08
Win. Yeah.
1:51:10
You do if you could too busy for I would do it.
1:51:15
OK, so they'll ones I would do it for Blackwood, Kemper, Odd
1:51:21
and Gerber Malka. I don't know if I would do it
1:51:22
for distal hill or night. Yeah, that's a.
1:51:28
Little more worried about the winds coming in.
1:51:30
That makes sense. I mean, hell, I feel like Vegas
1:51:33
is I'm not worried about their wins, but him it's much more
1:51:36
the. Less wins cause he's still
1:51:37
splitting. That's fair.
1:51:39
That's fair. Yeah, no, I I fully agree.
1:51:41
I, I like the, I think that honestly, like I think you
1:51:44
probably get Kemper plus like I feel like with, with how they
1:51:47
fit in and I think that could be a big win with playoff schedule
1:51:50
looking like this, like it's just, I think that's a, I really
1:51:53
feel like it's tough, especially as a camper owner, like I'm part
1:51:56
of the hate camp, you know, like he's been awful, but it just
1:51:59
feels like you have such an opportunity here.
1:52:01
Like when do you get a starting goalie on a team that should be
1:52:03
good with an unreal playoff schedule like that who's been
1:52:05
playing so bad? You know, like it feels like
1:52:07
this is a glaring opportunity to buy.
1:52:09
And with some of these guys who are just like performing so well
1:52:12
but have bad playoff schedules, it feels like you can do like
1:52:15
that. Like, you know, Kimber plus
1:52:16
Batherson, like whatever for what?
1:52:17
For one of these guys, you know, it just feels like kind of like
1:52:19
a really, really good opportunity.
1:52:22
Yeah, and there's a lot of goals that we're not talking about
1:52:24
obviously, right. Like in that middle pack of like
1:52:26
they're not they don't have elite playoff schedules, they
1:52:28
don't have bad playoff schedule to kind of in the middle.
1:52:30
And I'm sure there's a lot of names in there that could be
1:52:32
worthwhile for busy like the Bobrovsky is if you're really
1:52:35
buying into the Florida bounce back or like Connor Hellebuyck,
1:52:38
that's even feasible. Like maybe help or wouldn't do
1:52:41
it. Is was he better Potentially so.
1:52:44
Connor Hellebuyck Yeah, your first round pick.
1:52:47
Scratch that, that's so funny. What I.
1:52:51
Like about this is that a lot of the teams have bad playoff
1:52:53
schedules. Are sell highs in and of
1:52:55
themselves. Like yeah, like but busy is
1:52:59
honestly so broken is with how good the Islanders have been.
1:53:02
Skinners, Swamin, Lion tremendous sell high.
1:53:05
I guess Almark is probably the least sell high of them all
1:53:09
because he's basically played like 2 games since he got back.
1:53:12
But yeah, yeah, alright, last thing I will say as as always.
1:53:19
For these goalies like I think the.
1:53:22
Trades are more ambiguous, but I would just take away that like,
1:53:25
if these are the goalies on your team, like if you have some of
1:53:27
the top goalies, I feel very comfortable going into the
1:53:30
fantasy playoffs with them on my roster, like holding down at
1:53:32
least one of my goalie spots. And if I have one of the bottom
1:53:35
goalies, it's not like your fantasy chances are dead in the
1:53:38
water, but I would seriously consider making a move.
1:53:40
That's kind of how I'm viewing the situation.
1:53:42
Yeah. Yeah.
1:53:44
That's that's sort of a prefetch.
1:53:48
You have a, you just. Give a good post postage Yeah I.
1:53:52
Think this is like the situation where.
1:53:54
You and the people you possibly in your league like trading
1:53:56
with. Have a different level of
1:53:59
information available to you because you know, this is kind
1:54:01
of like some a deep dive, right? Like most people aren't going to
1:54:04
think I have Brandon busy like he's got terrible playoff
1:54:06
schedule. You stroke he's got terrible
1:54:07
playoff schedule because most people either will just look at
1:54:09
the overall games played, they won't look at the back-to-back,
1:54:12
they won't look at the matchups, or they just won't look ahead
1:54:14
that far at all. You know, so like here's a
1:54:17
chance to with a non equal amount of information available
1:54:20
to you to take advantage and make some traits that to the
1:54:23
outside might look like maybe an 11 or, you know, just like
1:54:26
people might be like, why did you do that?
1:54:27
But then come play off time, you'll be much better off.
1:54:30
And Josh built an amazing visual table in our Google doc that
1:54:34
we've been referencing after this.
1:54:35
Episode goes live, I can post like a screenshot of the Google,
1:54:39
just like the table in the playoff optimization Discord
1:54:42
channel. So everybody that's in the
1:54:44
Discord, good for you. I think for weeks 21 to 23, we
1:54:49
have a specific one for that and we 22 to 24 draws did an
1:54:52
incredible job. We see all the games broken down
1:54:54
by week. You see the total games, you see
1:54:56
the the score that he did, he attributed to everybody.
1:54:58
So I think it would be a fantastic resource.
1:55:00
And it can be like, you know, you look at that when you're
1:55:02
thinking of potential trades as well.
1:55:04
That wraps up. Yeah, I know it's a great
1:55:06
resource. Congrats to everyone who joined
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the Discord community. And if you're not?
1:55:11
In there already definitely join so you can see what that's all
1:55:13
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1:55:43
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1:55:46
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Yeah, it's just a great place to be and especially now that.
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We'll be posting this, it's gonna help a lot.
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