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Belinda Himiona: Social Service Providers Aotearoa CEO on the $190 million funding boost for the Social Investment Fund · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Social investments getting a boost. This is Bill english Is
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  Speaker 1: Baby now carried by Nicola Willis pre budget announcement two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million dollars. One hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 1: of that goes to the new Social Investment Fund. It
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  Speaker 1: will invest in services that deliver measurable improvements in the
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  Speaker 1: lives of those who.
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  Speaker 2: Need our help, guided by data and evidence.
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  Speaker 1: You contract directly to providers for you contracts the idea
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  Speaker 1: you target problems earlier for better results long term. Belinda
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  Speaker 1: Hemiwana is the social services provider out here at our
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  Speaker 1: CEO with me this morning. Blinda, good morning, Oh good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Good to have you on the show. Can you just
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  Speaker 1: tell us what is the main difference? Is it the
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  Speaker 1: length of the contract here? What is the main difference
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  Speaker 1: for you with how this will work?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, sure. So we really heartened by this announcement
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  Speaker 2: and I think definitely the vision to have longer term contracting,
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  Speaker 2: sustainable funding with community sector organizations to work to get
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  Speaker 2: either to develop outcomes framework so we all know that
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  Speaker 2: we are delivering the best for the kids Infano that
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  Speaker 2: are receiving services. Just an example, I represent over two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty community based providers and they work over
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  Speaker 2: seventeen government departments. So you can just imagine all of
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  Speaker 2: the separate contracting arrangements, the different reporting. There's some inconsistency
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  Speaker 2: in how providers need to report on results in timeframes.
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  Speaker 2: So we're really hoping for some good administrative burden reductions.
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  Speaker 1: One, so one provider might have to deal with seventeen
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  Speaker 1: different government agencies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know at least five to six. We
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  Speaker 2: often have multiple years.
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  Speaker 1: And many of you renewing every year, so you're having
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  Speaker 1: to go through these proces, jump through these sub service
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  Speaker 1: So admin up the wazoo. I'm imagining for you with
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  Speaker 1: this news scheme. Do you have have Do they set
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  Speaker 1: KPIs you have to meet?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I think most contracting relationships at the moment
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  Speaker 2: there are performance indicators and volumes or expected outcomes or outputs. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think this really pushes it to the next level.
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  Speaker 1: Though, how does it push it to the next level?
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  Speaker 1: Because the problem with the word anger tamadek thing and
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  Speaker 1: I know we've had that report from the Order to General,
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  Speaker 1: but the problem was that the providers were not meeting
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  Speaker 1: KPIs but still getting all the money and even when
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  Speaker 1: there was an underspend. We're keeping the underspend too, yes.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's obviously the so I just answer
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  Speaker 2: answer the first part of the question I think, which
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  Speaker 2: is about how will this be different from the KP,
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  Speaker 2: and then we can move into some of those observations
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  Speaker 2: from the Utamadikey process. I think one of the really
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  Speaker 2: valuable aspects of social investment is you'll take it out
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  Speaker 2: of one government agency, so we know kids Infarno are complicated.
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  Speaker 2: You don't just have a health issue or an education
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  Speaker 2: issue or a well being issue. Often these are quite interconnected.
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  Speaker 2: And what I like about the model is it will
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  Speaker 2: allow cross government results in indicators, so you can really
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  Speaker 2: tackle those hard cases and not just be in in
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  Speaker 2: one contract dealing with one aspect like a health or
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  Speaker 2: an education and another dealing with the counseling or the
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  Speaker 2: youth work. So it's a really nice, elegant way to
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  Speaker 2: tackle these big issues. So we really, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: think it will work. We want to see it on
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  Speaker 2: the ground obviously, and we would have liked to see
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  Speaker 2: more than one hundred and ninety million because it's spread
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  Speaker 2: over four years, but the Minister has talked about scaling
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  Speaker 2: it up, so This is a good chance just to
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  Speaker 2: your point about do we know what's working and are
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  Speaker 2: we funding it? This is a great chance to put
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  Speaker 2: the results on the table and to work in partnership
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  Speaker 2: with government to do things that are really impactful.
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  Speaker 1: Which is exactly what we want to happen all of us. Belinda,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Keep up the good work. Belinda me
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  Speaker 1: one home with us this morning Social service providers alted
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  Speaker 1: a CEO on the changes the governments are out well,
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  Speaker 1: the funding boots the governments and now it's for social investment.
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