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“Game 2: Rogue One”: Rogue One Review & Westworld · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt it's all
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  bit hearty so I don't really understand it Luke is that a little sashwat penis
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  Dan I accidentally got soap in my urethra multiple nerdgasm your guide do
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  all things
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  nerdly so uh guess what I'm doing something not involving your pants I
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  assume correct well actually this is actually going to make it sound even
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  worse I recording this podcast one-handed this [Laughter]
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  week okay let moving on
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  no why I um May fractured my wrist a
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  little ah there's still not 100% sure so
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  I I know vaguely how that happened in that I know what you would doing in general at the
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  time do you want to talk us through uh how you injured yourself for some stupid
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  reason I decided to go Outdoors uh and
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  play a sport first mistake two mistakes one of the most vicious contact Sports
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  there is Cricket right so um for those American
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  listeners that we have Cricket is like baseball except slower yes yeah and I
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  just fell over can I ask uh what position you were
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  currently playing while you fell over well [ __ ] I don't know what positions
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  there are I was filing and I had explained to everyone I was with I don't
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  run uhhuh uhhuh I can't run so yeah you're physically not able to run yeah
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  if the ball's more than a meter away I'm not getting it uhhuh that's the spirit
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  of cricket go on I still managed to fall over they should have put you as the
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  Wicket keeper oh the wickets
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  was that an Ewok reference I will not be making that mistake again so you
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  fractured your your wrist yes well they're not sure they've sent me for a
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  couple of scans and they're saying maybe it is maybe it's not they're doing the
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  wait and see okay wait and see what because surely an x-ray can just tell
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  you immediately if something's broken well they saw something but they're not
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  quite sure your arm right was it a fracture that they saw they saw I don't
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  know they saw something okay but yeah I have to wait and if it still hurts I
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  have to go and get a bone scan so they can see if it's starting to heal I love
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  how that's good enough for Luke if I went to the doctor and he and he went
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  something there but I don't know I can see something yeah but I literally don't
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  know if that's a cracked bone or a not cracked bone how about we just wait and see what
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  happens wait and see tell you what let's wait a couple of
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  weeks and then scan you again see if you're healing the first part about all
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  of this malpractice it actually hurts to
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  hold a controller oh no right so I would say it probably is fractured then
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  although I'm not a doctor but then again neither does this guy
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  clear it's it's only been like this for since Tuesday
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  night well so you got a little sling on it I haven't held a sweet controller in
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  my hand for about 5 weeks yeah actually
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  I I haven't either I've been back for almost a week now but I haven't just
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  haven't had time but I haven't yeah I haven't even turned the Xbox on yeah
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  you've been traveling uh Across America uhhuh Jack kowak style yeah literally
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  drove all the way across yep yeah that's a long drive I'll tell you that how was
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  that it's good yeah it's good had a great time did you ever get tempted when
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  you got to the coast uh San Francisco I believe right uhuh yep did you ever get
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  tempted to just keep going and have a have a bit of a look at Russia
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  or even come and visit me we well the car is pretty nice but I don't know if
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  it's James Bond style submarine car nice right so I didn't want to test that out
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  right I can understand that yeah so that car was your car hotel but not
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  necessarily your submarine yeah correct yeah and also uh less of a hotel than we
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  had intended originally because there have been quite a lot of subzero
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  temperatures here the last month and um after a couple of time we did we slept
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  in the car a couple times when we could but uh it was actually just too cold in
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  uh some spots you probably picked a bad time of year to do it yeah but it's the
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  kind of the only time we were going to have so you know we just went with it
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  and you know it was it was good we saw a bunch of cool stuff drove up and uh
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  parked outside George Lucas's house which is uh oh not not creepy at all no
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  no no no I mean I'm sure he's used to it uh I can't see a whole lot of stuff from
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  the front gate in case you're wondering but probably the point isn't it yeah I'm
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  pretty sure that's why the front gate is so far from the main house I mean they
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  wouldn't put the front gate like say adjacent to his bedroom
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  door he just sat in there eating salad
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  there's people staring the window at
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  him H money salad but yeah so that was that was fun well at the uh the boys
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  back in penth will be happy to hear that you um for your honeymoon you took your
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  uh you took your new wife on a drive and slept in the car great and then on the
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  way back we drove through Tennessee and just the other day I saw this the first
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  time I've seen this apparently it's not uncommon here I'd never seen this before
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  uh I was overtaking a gentleman in a Jeep and I noticed he had strapped to
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  the front of his car on the Bonnet two dead deer that he shot on the highway
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  just strapped I thought you were going to say truck nuts but that was way worse
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  well how else is she going to get them home you know fair point and I said I
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  mentioned that uh and then people went oh yeah that happens like oh well I'll
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  tell you this Matt we've got at least one listener and you know who you are
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  who's listening right now going yep nothing wrong with that oh yeah
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  absolutely I just uh yeah it was just uh something I hadn't seen before so it
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  made me D do a double take on the highway as I went past cuz I could see
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  the legs working the side and I was like has this guy hit a deer and just been
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  like ah [ __ ] it like a [ __ ] it leave it there I mean we saw deer when uh when I
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  was over there visiting you we saw some beautiful deer out in a in a field uh
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  basking in the Autumn duw but what what I I thought a lot of things when I was
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  looking at them basking in their Majesty but what I didn't think was I'm going to
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  [ __ ] kill you but to own I saw a lot
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  of them on the side of the road uh sadly killed by vehicles and actually I
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  thought you know what if I can make it through this whole trip without hitting
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  a deer that'll be pretty great cuz they're everywhere and uh did you do it
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  yep not a not a single fatality or or even injury I should clarify didn't hit
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  one at all no none of them actually died that's right some of them were maimed
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  has anyone actually eaten deer no I can't afford it cuz they hunt it to eat
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  it don't they it's too deer
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  yeah they do uh I believe they do I've never had it I had a bison burger a
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  little while ago bison yeah man Jesus that's the manliest burger there is yeah
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  it's pretty good e the [ __ ] bison big
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  cows yeah yeah yeah yeah they're just North American cows oh I'm sorry just
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  not not impressed by a cow are you really Cow Speaking of big
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  impressive animals right some fing czy [ __ ] where I am right now
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  I thought I was looking at a bird flying in the the other day until it went into
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  a flower and I realized it was a [ __ ]
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  bee about the size of a CA battery
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  what [ __ ] that yeah do they sting [ __ ] petrifying I don't know
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  man so it's one of those bees from King
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  Kong yes yes or Mr doie from uh
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  room he's retired move to the Philippines [ __ ] Mr
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  dooie also doobie right anyone else just realizing that
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  eism because he's he's not into inter special sex is that what you're getting
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  at just only do bees what Matt's not a pot smoker obviously no he's not know
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  what he thinks we're talking about oh I see what you I see where you going with
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  that yeah my mind still trying to work out where you're going my moment
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  somewhere else well he does [Laughter]
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  bees that's all I'm saying yeah y well all right so if uh if you're tuning in
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  because you want to hear us talking about Rogue one uh you're in luck but if
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  you're com if you're tuning in because you don't want to hear about Rogue one
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  cuz for some reason you like this podcast for reasons other than
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  Your Love of Star Wars when you're also in luck because we're going to talk
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  about other stuff first yeah we'll give you plenty of warning so you can turn
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  off if you don't want to hear spoilers yeah so we're going to leave it till you
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  know about halfway through because we're I assume we're going to talk about it
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  for a bit so uh what I'd like to do I've don't have much to say about
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  it but I do want to say one thing to everyone who's our listeners who haven't
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  seen it yet I'm very disappointed in you you should have seen this movie by
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  what I want to do cuz we've had some some complaints they are complaints in
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  the past that um what we've done is out spoilers well no because what we'll do
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  is we'll be very careful one episode and then after that we're like well we
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  already talked about the spoilers so all bets are off and then we've kind of been
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  a bit sloppy about I stick by that so if you avoid the spoilers this week don't
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  tune in next week because all bets are off we we will try and be more careful
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  about in future cuz I don't want want people to you know to not be able to
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  listen to the show or whatever because they're worried about it um but then I
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  was thinking about it and I'm like at what point can we talk about stuff
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  because for example and I'm not going to say what it is but there's some some
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  kind of behind the sceny stuff to do with Rogue one um that we want to talk
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  about and but then if if stuff gets updated kind of next next week they
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  announce something and are we not allowed to talk about it
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  because you know they they involve spoilers and I'm being super vague which
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  is annoying because again I don't want to talk about spoilers but you've got a weak
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  people yeah I'm with Luke on this one mhm okay like if it's that important and
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  they want to see it I mean where does it end you you can't just have spoilers
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  last forever I can't be like hey guys there was this great um silent film made
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  in the 1910s and you're like whoa whoa spoilers yeah yeah no I know what you
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  mean and also episode 4 is also a giant spoiler for rogue one just quietly yeah
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  in fact just the opening crawl exactly it tells you you need to know but
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  um yeah but no we we this episode we'll warn you before we talk about spars and
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  you know what I'm just going to say one more thing about this but doesn't giving
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  anything away but I'm glad George Lucas isn't still a part of this because you
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  can guarantee that now that they've made Rogue one he would want to update that
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  opening crawl with some new information it's very specific stuff yeah yeah he
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  name check everybody yeah or he' just change it and then say
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  I was always like that like and it just wouldn't match
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  anymore yeah that's right yeah for for no reason but enough
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  about Star Wars cuz there'll be a lot more of it later yeah I like this
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  reality television mhm mhm there's a show coming out soon or about to be
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  filmed in Russia where in the rules it's okay to rape and murder
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  people sure okay right is raping and murdering the point of the show or well
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  it's just they're setting all these contest contestants out in the
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  wilderness and whoever survives there for 9 months wins whoever survives the
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  rapes and the murders well it's it's weirder than that right cuz it's called
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  game to Winter is the show which is a weird name for a show I mean that's
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  that's not the weirdest thing about this but it is weird name well this is
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  probably the second game show they've had in Russia this game game two colon
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  Winter game one summer I guess but it says contestants will each sign a waiver
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  acknowledging that they might be raped or killed but the rules also state that
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  the police are free to arrest anyone who commits a crime well of course they
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  are like yeah and oh he's got to say it says in the rules yeah but no it said
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  like they had to put this in the rules you must understand that the police will
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  come and take you away we in the territory of Russia and you must obey
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  the laws of the Russian Federation [ __ ] who who doesn't realize that on
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  TV I can do whatever I want what I love about this though is that yeah at what
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  point of the the cops going oh sorry the the laws the rules of a game show
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  supersede the laws of this country you're in a sovereign television
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  show now one thing that gets me is the advert for it which goes 2,000 cameras
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  900 hectares and 30 lives everything is allowed fighting alcohol murder rape
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  smoking anything of smoking sort of comes off the murder yeah it's like my mom wrote
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  this list yeah murder rap smoking heavy
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  metal not doing his homework although you must understand if
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  you don't do your homework the police will come and arrest you yeah your mom
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  will come and drag you off yeah now this is uh I said this such a weird thing to
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  point out did they normally is it up to the reality television show
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  to prevent crimes normally or do they still use the police for that like when
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  they film say prevent crime I think probably does come down to those
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  directly involved so say if you're watching my cat from hell and Jackson
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  Galaxy gets a bit out of hand tries to murder somebody is Jackson Galaxy a cat Jackson
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  Galaxy is a um he's a cat behavioral uh guy okay cat behaviorist
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  you have uh you have lapsed into new territory my friend you never seen my cat from hell
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  no it's my new favorite show well it's not my new favorite show it's just I
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  couldn't watch it much in Australia but there was a big marathon on the other
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  day which is why it sprung to mind but he goes around and um helps people get
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  their cats sorted out you know a that's good the cat's misbehaving he helps out
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  it's a great show that's the one thing it's going to be slightly different
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  because there's no camera crew here oh
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  2,000 hidden cameras yes so it's like big brother I mean answer your question
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  m i I'm actually currently working on a reality TV show right yeah um and I
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  think if if any of the contestants were raping one another um I feel I probably
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  would step in uh and not just not just say this is a job for the police
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  honestly this goes uh that goes well above and beyond my my duty as the
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  Director of this show that's right my job is to film this yeah yeah unless I
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  didn't want raping in the scene in which case I would call cut all right it just
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  seems like a really strange things to point out in the rules in the advert
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  like Could Happen yeah it's sort of like they they're wanting it to happen well
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  they are obviously they're trying to cash in on the pois the well isn't it
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  yeah yeah but I mean really this could be any television show or is it just
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  that they're going to like you know if this was another show they might cut
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  that stuff out and try and pretend it never happened where in this one they're
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  saying if it happens we'll show you you know like because I'm sure this I mean
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  this could happen on Survivor or I don't know we saw someone get turkey slapped
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  on Big Brother one year oh she thinking that that was a huge thing yeah but they
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  don't go into the house going you might be raped and murdered like it is a
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  possibility that can happen everywhere anywhere but you don't go into the house
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  thinking that imagine that was in the contract of Big Brother he'd be like
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  sorry and they're like no no no no don't get me wrong we don't want that to
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  happen and if it does happen the Poli will be called but you've just got to be
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  aware that it might happen yeah for those interested in this new uh game two
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  from Russia the show promises to be International five countries uh have
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  already expressed the desire to broadcast it apparently 60 people have
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  applied to be on the show including an American man it says something about you
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  I think a little bit if you've never applied for one of these shows before
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  and then they go this one's going to allow rape and murder yeah I'll have a
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  go yeah yeah that's right yeah I and I could do quite well at this see the
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  murder actually makes sense a little bit because what happens with this whoever's
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  there at the end of the N months they split the prize Mar I was going to say
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  it depends on what the point of the show is if it's like whoever survives yeah
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  guess murdering people make sense but like yeah yeah yeah if it's Battle
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  Royale yeah no it's if they hit the button a helicopter comes in takes them
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  out and they're out of the game text them out yeah oh I see so they're
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  supposed to terrorize each other into quitting okay well that is different I
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  guess you know what I'm gonna I'm going to bet not a lot of women apply to me in
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  this show yeah yeah because and and I bet it's a whole bunch of rapists
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  standing around going a well we're going to have to rape each other now exactly
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  in fact I hope that's what it is yeah and then they just changed the
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  name to rapist Island six rapists are put on an island escape
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  from rape Island that's what I would call it yeah yeah or don't escape oh
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  yeah exactly otherwise you'll lose hopefully you're you're sticking around for the Rogue
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  one we're really really testing our audience here we're really making them
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  work for it all right well how about we talk about something a bit more cheerful
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  especially for Luke somebody's discovered Luke's dream job yeah they
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  really have because a drinks company in Europe are looking for what they're
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  calling a gin turn which is an intern
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  who tastes gin for them just taste it I I could do that yeah you travel around
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  Europe and you just drink a bunch of Gins in different European countries
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  report back H doesn't pay wasted he I got wasted here I threw up over there
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  £20,000 a year which is not a huge amount but I mean you know it's above
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  minimum wage I guess yeah and your job is to drink Jin well the thing to look
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  at with the 20,000 is they're flying me around that they're going to be paying
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  for my accommodation and stuff boo yeah that's right yeah and drinking and I
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  don't need to worry about food then yeah cuz that's like 50% of your budget yeah
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  yeah yeah unfortunately you're up against 4,000 other applicants only
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  4,000 wow well they shut they shut down applications cuz they went Ah that's too
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  many yeah yeah that's right so they're going to restart the process in early
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  201 so you're not out of it yet I must look into this I could do
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  this job now can you yeah not that I doubt your abilities Luke but are you
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  able to give a good gin review you know like what what okay that's that was I
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  suspected that might be the case cuz you kind of just and that might even be
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  their first question so maybe you need to think about it long and hard before
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  you apply no just be honest I'm good at drinking the Gin uhhuh mhm professional
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  and I think that's the main point like drink well I'm sure that's part of it
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  and maybe there's on the job training I can tell I can tell you gin I like like
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  they just send you around Europe and you come back and they're like what did you
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  discover and you're like what what did you what did you find out
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  uh I got very drunk yeah I really like Jin yeah yeah when's the next trip do I
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  get holidays now
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  or the sick leave though would be
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  crazy over hair of the dog Luke hair of the
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  dog is that a saying anywhere except Australia people going to be like what
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  the [ __ ] is Matt talking about well it
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  was in one of the Monkey Island games oh
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  right yeah Fair Point remember you actually had to take hair from a dog to
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  bit you y so I assume at least somewhere in Silicon Valley it's also a saying
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  yeah but it may only be those two places all right cool can I ask a question
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  actually I just remembered that I was supposed been asked to check this with
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  Luke uh okay actually you've both been to Japan yes I can ask both of you
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  how on in on a Japanese toilet you know you know the fancy ones you guys both
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  used a fancy Japanese toilet with all the buttons and [ __ ] I most certainly
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  did how does the water bit work the bit that sprays you how does that work you
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  push a button and then you push buttons to do the angle and how powerful it is
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  and you let it do it thing and it uh sprays your butt also water pressure
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  water temperature mhm okay amazing right and then yeah you know does it have like
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  a blow dryer in there as well or you got to kind of handle that yes it does Matt
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  yes it does it does y yeah yeah all right now don't get me wrong Matt I've
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  been on uh Asian toilets that also have the jet but that has no controls over
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  speed temperature etc etc and drawing is up to you but yes the ones in Japan the
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  ones that will sing to you if you want during um all right they have all of
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  that what do they sing Everything in Japan is a karaoke
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  machine but no I'm actually when I when I buy my own house that's the first
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  thing that's going in a Japanese toilet right yeah they're pretty good pretty
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  good I mean not not to not to head into the toilet or anything but does does
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  that mean you you're not you know you still have to give a bit of a wipe or no
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  need me really that's the thing about it yeah if you going to have a shower if
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  you if you're going to clean yourself right at the end of the day would you
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  wipe yourself down with a piece of paper or would you get into the shower hm yeah
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  no fair enough yeah it did take me a little while to trust it
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  though yeah it's a leap it's a leap of faith isn't it cuz you did have to cuz
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  it asked you to sign a contract that said you might be raped or
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  murdered we were curious about that because you've got to go to Japan you
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  [ __ ] love Japan yeah I know I really want to absolutely love Japan I'm going
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  to go back well I'm going back next year for work I'm going to Singapore next
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  year you are really you you you get to
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  come see me thinking around May yeah I'll be there I'll be there L well you
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  you might not be but I will need you if you are going to come to Singapore
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  though I will need you to sign a contract to say that you know that you
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  will be raped or murdered or both yeah
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  yeah one of the two yeah thinking around May good look
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  out for cheap flights I'll take you to the bar behind the bookcase sounds great
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  don't go look it's a trap uh something else that happened uh
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  while I was away that I know you can now download stuff on Netflix
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  forgot to add this to the spreadsheet but uh you guys noticed that um they
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  came out and I looked at at the first day dat announc it and there was sort of
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  nothing yeah but now some stuff now it's starting to build up that Library oh
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  wait so you can't just download whatever you want I thought that you meant that
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  it's just an offline mode no there is except it's not for everything yet yeah
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  so like uh you they actually have a section for it now
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  I guess you click on it says if you want to download stuff click here and it
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  gives you a list of all the stuff that you can download it's it's quite a lot
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  of stuff quite big now okay well that's pretty cool I guess they've just enough
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  planes that that would benefit me yeah right and uh and because we we you know
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  traveling around when we had Wi-Fi we were able to download some stuff and
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  then you know have it available cuz that's one of the well not complaint
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  that I had because Netflix is pretty great anyway but it's a a feature that
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  Iain about was hoping they would implement yeah I'm surprised they got it
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  cuz to me that would be like a completely different licensing thing
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  yeah I was actually surprised cuz I I didn't know I didn't even know it was
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  coming cuz I hadn't been checking the news and stuff and then I just opened
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  the app and it said you can download stuff and I was like oh my God that's
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  awesome loving it yeah mean I guess you could watch something over and over
• 25:43
  again anyway so what's the difference well it's actually quite good for me
• 25:47
  because I fall asleep listening to television shows yeah right so instead
• 25:52
  of streaming them every night I can download the ones I fall asleep to and
• 25:56
  just play them yeah speaking of shows although not one that's on Netflix have
• 26:01
  you guys watched Westworld no I've watched [ __ ] hell
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  I've watched like uh four episodes before we left and I haven't had a
• 26:11
  chance to watch the rest I know the Ser The Season's finished so it has yeah I'm
• 26:15
  gonna watch it [ __ ] me watch it all the second season's already been announced
• 26:21
  but that's not coming out to like 2018 correct they're going to take an entire
• 26:25
  year to write and produce it wow that's cool yeah imagine that we want you to do it
• 26:31
  straight away n we're taking our time
• 26:35
  good yeah there's a lot of nudity and sex scenes in this show isn't there oh
• 26:41
  like a lot oh yeah no I mean not a stupid amount and it all works you know
• 26:48
  it's a place where you can do whatever you want it's kind of like uh game two
• 26:53
  winter yeah right so you know there's going to be violence there's going to be sex
• 26:58
  there's G to be
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  smoking it's Jonathan Nolan writing it right yeah it is and it's [ __ ]
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  amazing yeah yeah the f I watched yeah like four or five episodes and it was
• 27:13
  great but then we we left and uh we don't have HBO in a format that I could
• 27:19
  watch it on the road so yeah no I'm going to start watching I
• 27:23
  just finished watching Ash versus evil dead ah see I got season I got to finish
• 27:28
  that oh is the second season complete second season's done then you have to
• 27:32
  watch it and then we have to discuss the second episode oh yeah all right I'll
• 27:36
  download it after this yeah I'll try and watch the rest of it uh this week um speaking of
• 27:42
  Nolan uh did you guys watch the Dunkirk trailer yeah I did but it was before
• 27:49
  Rogue one actually I think maybe you didn't have a choice Luke maybe you've
• 27:52
  seen it no I didn't see it oh okay no I didn't see it I a little underwhelmed by
• 27:57
  it to be honest I'm I'm confused why this is a Nolan
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  movie yeah and I'm trying to work out whether there's some kind
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  of fourth-dimensional or Supernatural element to this that I've missed yeah
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  and and and also I mean I mean I guess I kind of know what it's about cuz it's
• 28:17
  called Dunkirk but the trailer doesn't I mean it doesn't tell you anything about
• 28:23
  what the film's about at all really it was it was just a bunch of and I know
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  it's just an early teaser and D Kirk isn't it it's about the Battle of
• 28:31
  dun Kirk oh yeah no I know that but but I don't know anything about the
• 28:34
  characters or kind you know like other than that but I knew I already knew
• 28:38
  unless it's straight up history what the [ __ ] is it yeah exactly like I'm sure
• 28:42
  there's going to be more of an intimate aspect to it like we're going to get to
• 28:46
  know some characters and otherwise that's weird if if it's not that why
• 28:50
  would he yeah what if it's not it's just a bunch of disconnected scenes that took
• 28:56
  place during the [ __ ] Battle of dun but yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know
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  it's just a underwhelming trailer so although speaking of World War II I just
• 29:07
  watched The Man in the High Castle ah I gotta watch that too that's on Amazon
• 29:11
  right yeah you do yeah and look I'll say
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  this right great concept great
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  production great cast great acting mediocre script really yeah I mean it's
• 29:25
  one of those ones where it's a bit down characters always say what they mean you
• 29:31
  know right H people talk about the plot so that you can follow yeah okay so it's
• 29:38
  it's it's disappointingly broad but that said didn't stop me from really enjoying
• 29:43
  it okay and the worst part about it was right for those of you who don't know
• 29:48
  it's about a future no it's not a future set in the 60s an alterity it's about an
• 29:53
  alternative reality where um the a Powers won World War II instead of the
• 29:59
  allies and America has been divided up into um half belonging to the German
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  Reich and half belonging to the Japanese empire and um you know as a as a white
• 30:12
  man right you do watch this and
• 30:17
  go well I'd be fine right you know what I mean I mean
• 30:23
  everyone else is [ __ ] but like providing I was on the right half of the
• 30:27
  United States the white guys are getting it pretty good yeah right so you're
• 30:34
  saying no I'm not saying anything that I'm not saying anything all right other
• 30:38
  than so you it's not it's bit of a wish fulfillment for you this
• 30:44
  show you know it's a taste it's a taste of what could have been what could have
• 30:51
  been oh God coming up Rogue
• 30:56
  one before we do that we should do that soon because I guess we're going to be
• 31:02
  talking about it for a while but uh something I have been watching I've
• 31:05
  never watched it before uh but I'm trying to get through it because there's
• 31:09
  there's a new season of it is Gilmore Girls yeah I'll tell you right now
• 31:16
  watched it she enjoyed it but it's not for me I mean look the writing's not bad
• 31:20
  in Gilmore Girls I'll give it that I've seen a couple of seasons of it I
• 31:23
  couldn't make my way all through to the end but I'm surprised by how many people see I I
• 31:28
  I was aware that it was a show but I didn't know anything about it and I
• 31:31
  assumed it was not for me but the number of people that I know who said oh yeah
• 31:37
  that's a really good show I was like oh all right and uh it's produced by Jane
• 31:43
  espenson from Buffy it's got some Buffy people in it uh and it's got yeah the
• 31:49
  writing's good and you know I'm enjoying it so yeah I'm trying to get through all
• 31:54
  the originals so I can watch the new one and then uh but yeah it's yeah
• 31:58
  everyone I know who's seen the the new one uh thought it was garbage so don't
• 32:03
  hopes up and also expect your interest to to just slowly wean as it as the
• 32:08
  series go along because they did a lot of series of this show yeah no we're up
• 32:12
  to season five I think now yeah I've
• 32:17
  never watched it on purpose no but yeah if I'll sit there I'll watch it okay
• 32:23
  yeah I'm enjoying it James gun's Brothers isn't it yes he is he's
• 32:27
  actually of my favorite characters in it have you seen the uh the episode where
• 32:31
  he makes a short film yes it's amazing yeah that's that's the best
• 32:37
  episode it's very funny yeah yeah he's he's great in it I love how uh he
• 32:44
  originally was just like an extra and he played like random roles for the first
• 32:49
  like half a season and then all of a sudden just became like a main character
• 32:53
  and then but they continued the joke like he just does every job in town like
• 32:58
  he works in every shop like every time they go into a shop K's there it's very
• 33:03
  funny that's those kind of things I like about it should we talk about what the
• 33:07
  people want to hear let's do it okay this is everyone's final chance if you
• 33:13
  don't want to hear spoilers about Star Wars Rog one yeah oh hang on before we
• 33:17
  do that should we tell them okay no spoilers first and if you don't want to
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  hear anything turn off now but what did you think of it overall did you like it
• 33:28
  I thought it was brilliant mhm mhm I
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  agree yeah I [ __ ] loved it all right cool y so there you go thumbs up from
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  multiple nerdgasm if you haven't seen it go see it all thumbs up all the way
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  around and honestly if you don't like this movie what the [ __ ] is wrong with
• 33:46
  you this is a great movie Full Stop what's not to like good night thanks for
• 33:51
  listening if you if you haven't seen it go see it come back and then uh from
• 33:54
  from now on from this point on uh we're just going to talk about stuff with the
• 33:59
  be spoilers we're going to assume that you've seen the film if you're listening
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  from now okay go yep Death Star gets
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  destroyed not in this it doesn't many both died no in this they
• 34:13
  don't that's a common misconception people keep saying that I thought it was
• 34:17
  the bothans I've seen that on Facebook and everywhere I actually got shocked
• 34:21
  about how many people at work actually said this and I went I've spoken to you
• 34:25
  about Star Wars before I didn't think you're an idiot
• 34:32
  well look I just want to say one thing um that I'm really proud of and that's
• 34:36
  that I saw it before either of you so yeah you did I saw the last man it's
• 34:41
  painful having to wait here like every movie now comes out like a week later
• 34:46
  here that's cuz you moved to the past but not how it used to be it used
• 34:52
  to be the opposite your release days are a Friday aren't they uh no no it's still
• 34:57
  the same day it's just that we get that day first no well no not only that um
• 35:03
  Australia does now for some reason get them first like the force awakens we we
• 35:07
  saw it a week before anybody here like it it literally came out a week before
• 35:12
  in Australia for some reason this one's not as bad like I think it came out like
• 35:16
  a day or two beforehand and I think yeah maybe that's just the time difference
• 35:20
  Thursday right we got it Friday you're right it was Friday on
• 35:25
  Tuesday shut up well I thing is the other thing is too and I'm I got
• 35:30
  accustomed to being invited to see movies before everybody else got to see
• 35:35
  them and now that's gone away and I don't like it CU it used to be that I
• 35:41
  didn't have to worry about avoiding the spoilers cuz I was the one giving him out but now
• 35:46
  yeah how did you guys see this movie did you guys see this 2D 3D 2D 3D IMAX I
• 35:53
  just went 2D 2D in the fancy Cinema so I had to reclin chair and they brought me
• 35:58
  drinks did they bring you a blanket no blanket I just went to the
• 36:03
  normal Cinema here at the mall cuz that's what was available to me and 2D
• 36:07
  for you as well yeah I don't like 3D I don't like it I would I wouldn't have
• 36:11
  seen 3D if I could I saw this movie in IMAX 3D two things I don't give a [ __ ]
• 36:18
  about in fact would rather not have and either this was the best use of 3D that
• 36:23
  I've ever come across or this movie is so good that it didn't matter right uh
• 36:29
  I'm looking forward to seeing it again in only 2D but uh as opposed to something like
• 36:34
  say The Hobbit where I was constantly just looking at the dimensionalization
• 36:39
  of it yeah this one just played out like a regular story just with the bit of
• 36:46
  depth bit of stuff being further away yeah or at times closer actually no I
• 36:53
  don't think anything was closer that's probably why it was okay well that's cuz
• 36:56
  it's distracting stupid yeah it is and I can see 3D
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  working if it is you just that further away not to bring stuff in front of your
• 37:06
  face thing is right I get I get the idea is it supposed to feel like you're there
• 37:10
  but films don't feel like you're there they're not supposed to because you
• 37:13
  cutting from different angles and I'm happy we sent all these people away because of our
• 37:18
  spoilers yeah now we're just talking about how much we hate 3D yeah all right
• 37:23
  fine I don't like 3D so I watched it in 2D all right so the big thing that was
• 37:28
  different with this one no opening crawl yeah and can I say this is actually
• 37:33
  there are very few things that I disliked about it uh or that didn't work
• 37:38
  for me agre one of them was the music a little bit didn't work for
• 37:44
  me and uh it didn't have the Star Wars music going to ask you yeah I was going
• 37:49
  to ask you to comment on that it had a couple of variations on the well-known
• 37:52
  themes specifically the Darth V theme some of the yeah some of the classics
• 37:56
  were still there but I felt like there was stuff that was similar to the
• 38:00
  original stuff but like they changed it a bit and it felt like you know when you
• 38:03
  go like like say it was a TV commercial that was like sit in a Star Wars style
• 38:08
  world and but they didn't want to infringe copyright so the music was just
• 38:12
  in the style of different kind of well did I don't John Williams didn't do this
• 38:18
  did he no no this was the guy who does JJ abrams's movies all of them
• 38:22
  ironically except for the force awakens but he did um he did Jurassic world as
• 38:28
  well I believe michaelo but and Jurassic world kept a
• 38:34
  lot of John Williams notes like notes like not musical notes I mean like the things and
• 38:41
  stuff ones that he owns notes that he owns maybe he wouldn't give him the Star
• 38:46
  Wars notes that's why he had to go flat or sharp on every note because he wasn't
• 38:52
  allowed to use them but I don't know it one in particular stood out if he went
• 38:56
  flat or sharp on every note it would be the same I mean this isn't really fair
• 39:01
  to him like he shouldn't have just copied John Williams I suppose but there
• 39:04
  was some spots in particular like when they're on Yavin 4 and the music was
• 39:09
  kind of the same as the music from A New Hope but it was like a little bit
• 39:13
  different and it just like I said it felt like we're not allowed to use the
• 39:17
  music from from the original y for so here's it here's it with a couple of
• 39:24
  notes changed I don't know it was weird but I even thought like the music for
• 39:28
  episode 7 wasn't that great either really I I really like the music in
• 39:33
  episode 7 they felt like Star Wars music cuz that's the other thing like the even
• 39:39
  the prequels which there's so much stuff about them
• 39:43
  that I ha music was the best thing about the exactly it's the music is incredible
• 39:47
  and it annoys me sometimes when I listen to the music I'm like oh man this could
• 39:50
  have been could have been so yeah could have been could have been
• 39:54
  amazing but yeah I don't know it was a I thought the music was a little
• 39:58
  underwhelming okay now I have to talk about the start of the movie mhm I'm
• 40:03
  just I find a little stuss and I have a few reasoned why that jy's father was
• 40:08
  hiding from the Empire how young was his wife what why
• 40:14
  would you say that why would cuz she looks very young to
• 40:19
  me and he's this older guy now she looks young now now jid was about six maybe
• 40:25
  seven so I don't felt cepy that this older guy with this young girl and yeah
• 40:31
  hiding out how old do you think mads mikkelson is how old is he he's a little
• 40:36
  bit older than us I'd say he's just weathered yeah but I had like the her
• 40:41
  mother being about 20 oh really
• 40:47
  you're I'll be honest I didn't notice because I that didn't even cross my mind
• 40:51
  too busy looking at the Star Wars movie number one MZ melson is 50 right number
• 40:57
  two Luke um it is perfectly legal to sleep with a 20-year-old right no no no
• 41:02
  no she's 20 with a seveny old
• 41:07
  right I can't even I can't even remember what she looked like you know what I'm
• 41:12
  gonna Rog one who is the actress that played her
• 41:17
  mother and I'm going to see how old she is and I'm going to have to edit this
• 41:22
  today so I'm going to be annoyed at myself for Kane oh she was born in 1987
• 41:28
  he was born in 1965 I mean I that's a that's a consider considerable difference I
• 41:34
  suppose there you go [ __ ] lucky Luke's out there looking out for these
• 41:40
  young women so you think that's why the empire was after him there's a book uh
• 41:43
  that I haven't read but I know that there is a book that precedes Rogan that
• 41:48
  explains uh all about it's catalst I
• 41:51
  believe it explains why gallon is uh on the but they kind of explained it in the
• 41:56
  film yeah there was some flashbacks that was just me being a little silly no I
• 42:01
  know I know hanging out he give him the benefit of the
• 42:07
  doubt yeah something else okay one other thing that I didn't didn't quite work
• 42:13
  for me yeah was uh I don't like how in this Stormtroopers can take a kick to
• 42:20
  the helmet and just get knocked unconscious that annoyed me a bit yeah
• 42:24
  that that's always thing though like why do they wear the armor if one heit goat
• 42:28
  kills them still I know well it doesn't it doesn't stop [ __ ] stick it doesn't
• 42:32
  stop kicks it doesn't stop blasy doesn't do anything it just makes it hard for
• 42:36
  him to walk around and see I know and then I know uh for the for the Star Wars
• 42:40
  trivia I know Jenna looked into this a bit because for some reason it came up
• 42:44
  and I I think somebody somewhere has come up with it the answer which is they
• 42:49
  environmental suits they're not it's not armor they're not fur no I see
• 42:55
  interesting but then so maybe that's how they get around it even with um episode
• 43:01
  7 he says it won't keep out gas the helmet gas you're
• 43:06
  right yeah and plus you see him just take the helmet off I mean he doesn't
• 43:10
  have to detach it from from the neck yeah it's just on there it's just a
• 43:14
  helmet well I don't know what they do then it's just for show they don't do
• 43:18
  anything exactly it's just a uniform yeah so that annoyed me a bit
• 43:22
  just because I don't know I I liked uh whatever the you know the the force guy
• 43:27
  the the guardian of the wills guy the blind guy uh I liked his character but I
• 43:32
  did I don't know it was a little goofy for me a little too goofy see I I liked
• 43:38
  his character because it that that actually cons segue into what I liked
• 43:44
  about this film in general right which was that it
• 43:49
  took Concepts two-dimensional Concepts from the original trilogy and expanded
• 43:55
  them into much more complex stories like
• 43:59
  the force absolutely do only Jedi use the
• 44:04
  force uhhuh up until now the answer has been yes now we've seen a guy who isn't
• 44:09
  a Jedi still believe in the force and try to use it that's interesting yeah
• 44:15
  with limited success but still some success yeah that's right yeah it's
• 44:19
  cool I loved it when they put the [ __ ] hood on him the the bag over his
• 44:24
  head are you serious I'm blind so yeah some good on Liners in this no I
• 44:30
  thought I thought Don Yan was was was great actually I thought he was no no I
• 44:35
  really enjoyed him in every other aspect I just I thought the some of the fight
• 44:41
  scenes just because like I said they're in armor and he's like flacking him with
• 44:45
  a stick and then they get knocked unconscious I was like yeah I mean I'll
• 44:50
  it's fine it's just a little goofy yeah it's borderline it's one of those things you
• 44:56
  have to except the good with the bad and just you can't but you forgive it for
• 45:02
  some reason what about K2 did he work for you um [ __ ] loved him yeah he
• 45:08
  grew on me he might be my favorite Droid now [ __ ] I know did you know that
• 45:12
  that wasn't me to begin with I was a bit air but then he really grew on me
• 45:17
  throughout the movie yeah so good I thought he was very funny I like one of
• 45:22
  my favorite lines in the whole film was when he um I've already said that about
• 45:28
  the other line too I had a lot of favorite lines in this yeah you can have
• 45:30
  a lot of favorites it's a [ __ ] great movie when they're talking about getting
• 45:34
  through the shield and what happens if the shield closes oh then we'll slowly
• 45:38
  suffocate and die in the dark vacuum of space not
• 45:42
  me I can survive in space [ __ ] great yeah oh yeah and
• 45:48
  also that bit I'm with you Jin uro yeah Cass
• 45:51
  told yeah so good yeah he's great good character so I'm going to say really
• 45:57
  controversial right oh [ __ ] there's something that I didn't quite like about
• 46:02
  this movie that I'm sure everybody else [ __ ]
• 46:07
  loved and I'm hoping to see it again and
• 46:12
  perhaps a second viewing where my expectations are already set will temper
• 46:19
  my feelings of it and perhaps to seeing
• 46:22
  it in only two Dimensions will change it again
• 46:29
  I didn't like the CGI characters oh I didn't either they were
• 46:35
  fine they were serviceable but but it's I feel like they're not we're not there yet and
• 46:42
  they were very noticeable for Princess Leia I thought it was fine cuz it's just
• 46:46
  one scene at the end yeah but for grof T
• 46:51
  played a major role in it it just it took me out of it it's very impressive I
• 46:57
  actually yeah it's impressive but find an actor that looks like him and enhance
• 47:02
  with 3D don't have a total I mean it's it was like Ben Mendelson was talking to
• 47:07
  a cartoon half the time yeah and it was a very good cartoon
• 47:12
  but maybe it looked better in 2D because like it was noticeable sometimes but
• 47:17
  there were other times like when he first showed up I actually like out loud
• 47:22
  went oh my God yeah right like [ __ ] blew my mind look I'm hoping it is pet
• 47:29
  Cushing is in this yeah yeah Peter Cushing is back from the
• 47:34
  dead if he was going to come back for anything this would be it yeah also he's
• 47:39
  got a bigger role than any other Star Wars film he was in that's right he's in
• 47:44
  this more than he was in [ __ ] A New Hope probably he wasn't in that that
• 47:48
  much neither was Vader to be honest well Vader wasn't in this much
• 47:53
  either no I'm saying but he wasn't in a new hope that much either like
• 47:58
  one thing I didn't like about the Vader being in it mhm was when they walked in and he
• 48:03
  was he was in the the the tank and you saw that he was missing his arms and
• 48:08
  he's I'm sort of like I don't know what that gave me oh I love that I felt like
• 48:13
  that whole scene was a little weird because it felt I don't know it was fine
• 48:20
  and I enjoyed it for what it was but also [ __ ] kinic flew all the way
• 48:25
  there for this meeting and then Vader was just like get your [ __ ] together and
• 48:30
  like that was it like and how long did Vader spend thinking about that pun he's
• 48:36
  like I got to get a choke pun in here yeah how am I GNA get it in
• 48:40
  there yeah but it was like one of those Nazi generals like Geral that's got his
• 48:47
  own [ __ ] Austrian castle that he just hangs out in you know I I thought that
• 48:52
  rounded off Vader what I didn't like about Vader was that scene where his [ __ ]
• 48:57
  baseball all the [ __ ] I thought we were going to get through an entire Star
• 49:01
  Wars film without seeing a lightsaber right and I was actually
• 49:05
  excited about that because I'm like this one's not about Jedi it's not about a
• 49:10
  [ __ ] Skywalker you know what I mean they even say that these are old weapons
• 49:14
  from a long time ago like it' be like a cop having a
• 49:19
  sword but then they still shoved it in there so yeah I don't know I a little
• 49:24
  forced for me I liked it cuz I liked the way cuz we've never seen him do that
• 49:29
  really yeah but they say that he does it and so it was nice to kind of see it and
• 49:34
  also cuz people talk about how vad is a badass in the comics and stuff like that
• 49:37
  and every time I've I've seen that people go oh here's a you know a section
• 49:42
  from the comics of Vader being a badass and it's stupid like there's like a
• 49:46
  million soldiers and he's like doing back flips like Yoda in [ __ ] episode
• 49:51
  two and yeah and and I'm like no that's he's exactly I like the way they
• 49:58
  did it in this where he's just this lumbering powerful [ __ ] badass like I
• 50:02
  thought it it looked like what I imagined Vader would look like slowly
• 50:07
  walking in just wrecking everyone's [ __ ] yeah just like but don't forget right if
• 50:12
  this takes place literally minutes before A New Hope then it's only a
• 50:16
  couple of days where he's fighting Obi-Wan like a [ __ ] old man that can
• 50:20
  barely hold his sword sure like that's that's the great thing about the the
• 50:26
  sword fight in a new every complains yeah but no but that's why
• 50:32
  it's so good it's the fact that this is not just two [ __ ] back
• 50:36
  flipping you know Musketeers this is two old adversaries fighting each other for
• 50:41
  the last time um and and if you have a prequel to this where only you know a
• 50:47
  short time before he's pulling stunts I don't know it kind of diminishes that
• 50:51
  for me I thought it was too much for me I thought it was too much I didn't
• 50:53
  really see him pulling stunts though very much was just a slowly walking
• 50:57
  forward killing everyone in front of him with the [ __ ]
• 51:01
  reflexes [ __ ] Fox man watch fight obiwan again right and
• 51:08
  tell me that's the same dude I no that wasn't that you can't compare it
• 51:14
  unfortunately any more than you can compare Yoda getting to 870 years old
• 51:19
  and still being able to back flip and then when as soon as he turns 900 that's
• 51:23
  it he's old okay remember the prequels don't exist well I would have thought so
• 51:28
  too [ __ ] Jimmy Smith rocks up yeah see that can we talk about that too
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  actually I I but I like the way they handled that in this sort of because it's kind of
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  like they pretended that well they made it so that if you want to pretend some
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  of the shitty stuff about the prequels doesn't exist you can do that here and
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  it's fine I mean Jimmy Smith is here he's borana he was fine yeah but also
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  who's Vader we don't not going to show his face like maybe it's Hayden
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  Christensen maybe it's [ __ ] Sebastian Shaw it's whoever you want it to be Sebastian
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  Shaw imagine that [ __ ] He's back from the dead
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  that's right they've cged Sebastian Shaw back into this did anyone else think I don't know
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  maybe it was just me because no one else I've Googled and no one else seems to
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  think this but and I know it was James old Jones but his voice sounded weird to
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  me this they' gotten in impersonator to do it and I actually thought is this the
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  best James L Jones person impersonator they could find and it turns out it was
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  didn't sound right yeah it didn't sound right to me no it didn't sound right to
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  me I mean obviously he's he he's older now but he was he did the voice in the
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  prequels and it sounded yeah now the prequels I thought were was terrible the
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  voice really yeah I thought his voice was terrible in the prequels H I thought
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  the see maybe I just thought it was the dialogue in the pre his dialogue in the
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  PRI was atrocious he would like that whole scene was so cringeworthy maybe he
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  also does the voice of Vader in the Star Wars Rebels series does he yeah he
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  does I actually honestly thought that his voice was better now than it was in
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  the prequels okay and it might be because he's doing Rebels he's had a bit
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  more practice of it speaking as himself he's doing Vader's voice even better
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  than he did it in a New Hope yeah I thought that was weird and
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  I've already said that seemed seemed a little out of place actually can I can I
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  mention something else just speaking of the spin-off cartoon series right yeah
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  Forest Whitaker's character saw Guerrera yeah yeah to me that was
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  another one of those Jimmy Smith's moments where it's like oh yeah yeah a
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  character that you know from uh the Clone Wars is in this so okay that ties
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  in because I thought he stuck out like a sore thumb really I see I didn't notice
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  one thing I did like about that character was the fact that he was using
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  the breathing apparatus that Vader uses yeah that was inter sort of like yeah
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  it's not just Vader this is just a medical device that's out
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  there can we in general I felt like this did a a really good job of making it
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  feel like Star Wars especially well what not like the old Star Wars movies what I
• 54:15
  wanted Star Wars to be like it felt like exactly you know like uh like the video
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  games like dark Forces and and what I imagined it like in the books and like
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  for example at the start when cians on that planet you know we shoots the guy
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  and all that stuff at the very beginning when he finds out that there's the
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  message the yeah kind of Blade runner-esque planet that he's on like
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  that's what I wanted Star Wars to be absolutely [ __ ] [ __ ] nailed it
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  yeah and they really made it they made
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  sense of the Empire and the rebels in this in a way that no other Star Wars
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  movie has done like we've heard about the Rebel Alliance that's just what they
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  called but what is oh okay it is an alliance between separate autonomous
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  groups of rebels yeah yeah right that that that are doing their own thing and
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  rebelling in their own sectors but have come together to align to fight the
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  Empire who we've already seen better than in any other film is an occupying
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  Force you know what I mean like like the Nazis or even more so like the Roman
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  Empire you know like they've come in they're
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  occupying they're letting the you know the local people still have their own
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  little cultures and and governments and everything but ultimately they're in
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  charge and I thought that was really clear in this where do you rank this I
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  know [ __ ] high man [ __ ] high yeah see and and It's tricky because I was
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  thinking about it I'm like well I've only seen it once and I've seen the
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  others and also I mean the originals I've been watching them for [ __ ] yeah
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  40 30 40 years when I talking about not 40 years old watching them for 30 years
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  um I've been watching him for four years before I was born I watched him in the womb um
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  through the belly Buton obviously higher than the prequels higher than any of the
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  prequels for me uh higher than Return of the Jedi for me and then after that I'm
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  like H I don't know yeah I don't know if I liked it more than Force awakens and
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  and I I think maybe I did but I have to wait because you know Force awakens had
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  all this extra kind of yeah kind excitement and and Nostalgia and stuff
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  that this one kind of doesn't get cuz we've already had a Star Wars film in
• 56:31
  the last year you know what I mean for me it's actually below Force awakens
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  because I do want to see Rogue one again but I know I felt more urgent to see
• 56:43
  Force awakens at the movies again I don't know why right see I'm the
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  opposite but I love Force awakens right and I think that Force awakens has a lot
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  going for it that this doesn't have like yeah I agree um it's in in in terms of
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  just [ __ ] adventure and all of that Force awakens is unbeatable plus Force
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  awakens has kylo Ren which is which is such an interesting Edition yeah as a
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  villain and it's got all of this stuff and I [ __ ] love it but I find force
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  awakens after I saw it I only wanted to see it again so I could enjoy it again
• 57:23
  whereas I'm [ __ ] desperate to watch Rog one again because I feel there's so
• 57:28
  much I missed the first time around I think I just worked out why I like force
• 57:34
  awakens more it's because of the fact I the characters in The Force awakens I am
• 57:39
  going to become attached to and see grow whereas in Rogue
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  one that's it they're not coming back spoilers they all died yeah that's it
• 57:50
  that's a spoiler yeah well they kind of had to and but can we talk about this I
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  put this article in here yeah which I thought was really interesting it's uh
• 57:59
  on slash film it's to put my I'm have to read man oh you don't have to read you
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  can you can look at the pictures and I can I can kind of explain what they're
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  getting at but remember the original trailer or maybe even two trailers for
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  rogue one came out before the re-shoot yeah and uh and even like some stuff
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  that's in the trailers the more recent trailers right it's just not in the
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  film I don't know if you noticed I certainly did cuz I've watched the
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  trailers so many times most of what's in the trailers even the dialogue and
• 58:29
  everything isn't in the film it's different and in particular a lot of the
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  dialogue between jyn and Mon mothma and all and that whole scene apparently is
• 58:41
  different uh there's no cuz cuz I Rebel or whatever it was right they didn't
• 58:47
  they didn't talk about her backstory at all in fact except apart from what we
• 58:51
  already saw on the screen which was that she's galen's daughter and all that kind
• 58:54
  of thing they took out all the stuff about her being kind of a bad egg like
• 58:58
  it's just gone but but that was in the trailer and so they're saying maybe
• 59:04
  apparently this is allegedly whatever uh her character was more I guess gray uh
• 59:10
  originally and maybe Disney didn't like that yeah so they went back and they
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  were like okay make it so that she's not such a [ __ ] yeah you know hope a lot
• 59:20
  more right um but not only that if you look at uh there's there's ACH of stuff
• 59:26
  in here uh stuff that's not in the film as just individual shots and one in
• 59:30
  particular you know when she walks out onto the platform to realign the
• 59:33
  satellite in the film right in the trailer when yeah she's walking out
• 59:38
  there there's a [ __ ] TIE fighter flies up that didn't happen yeah like
• 59:41
  what's that about but not only that if you scroll down and look at some of
• 59:44
  these other shots that are from the original trailers it's her and Cassian
• 59:50
  running along the beach with with the plans in her hand right dodging 88
• 59:57
  yeah so at some point like the the ending of the film was different yeah
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  because they got out of the facility with the plans and they were running
• 1:00:06
  along the beach they still with them so yeah and not only that um in her
• 1:00:13
  contract they have the option uh of a sequel which would indicate originally
• 1:00:19
  she didn't die H interesting or or at
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  some point well they could still a
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  sequel it wouldn't be new
• 1:00:33
  hope they could still go into a backstory about like her growing up
• 1:00:39
  still I don't think they should that's true could do a younger version of it
• 1:00:43
  but that's what no I I agree I think I think the the beauty of these Star Wars
• 1:00:48
  stories is that they are all stand alone and that they yeah now I think with this
• 1:00:54
  with everyone dying at the end they missed a great chance they could have
• 1:00:58
  had me crying at the end of this movie I didn't like the way they died I
• 1:01:04
  I'm not going to cry they're all dead why would I cry no no I I had them cuz
• 1:01:09
  the way they died was a bit oh okay yep it's all gone and the plant are gone and
• 1:01:16
  now the world's blowing up around us let's hug we're dying I had more
• 1:01:20
  pictured as a we've got to hold them off at this door and a fire fight
• 1:01:27
  and stand type of thing do you know what El and just with the way everybody kind
• 1:01:31
  of got knocked off at the end I felt like krennic didn't get much of
• 1:01:36
  a a send off kind of thing and um and there's also in the in the original
• 1:01:42
  footage and in in behind the scenes shots the sequences of of him down on
• 1:01:46
  the beach and stuff like that yeah that's right um so I think maybe I don't
• 1:01:51
  know I I just want to see what the original ending was you never will
• 1:01:56
  cuz yeah yeah the original enemy has to be completely different yeah whether
• 1:02:01
  somebody whether they survived or I don't know I I think it would have been crazy
• 1:02:07
  to have them survive though like it yeah well the other thing is too somebody uh
• 1:02:12
  Carlo actually from um Carlo from big head mode and um bonus stage pointed out
• 1:02:18
  on Facebook that it's it is a little insane that taken was like blow up the
• 1:02:24
  whole facility I guess even though we've got this kind of under control now um
• 1:02:29
  yeah cuz they had already taken out most of the fighters that made it through the
• 1:02:32
  through the shield um they like they took the plans but that was too late to
• 1:02:38
  stop that so let's just destroy all this other stuff we've got stored in the
• 1:02:41
  facility and kill thousands of our own it's still their Planet yeah let's kill
• 1:02:45
  all of our own soldiers and stuff even though they've already taken out all the
• 1:02:47
  Rebels on the on the ground and the plans are already out like yeah it was a
• 1:02:52
  little little unnecessary to blow up the whole [ __ ] thing well that's also the
• 1:02:57
  other thing when they first tested the Death Star why was it just just blow up
• 1:03:02
  that facility why not a blow up that
• 1:03:06
  entire planet because because in a new hope that's the first time they test the
• 1:03:11
  full power of the Death Star so they couldn't do it
• 1:03:16
  beforehand you got me it's like why did why did taken feel it was necessary to
• 1:03:20
  mention that he'd shown the emperor and Vader the Death Star at one point
• 1:03:26
  because we see that in episode three so they had to address that but hang on
• 1:03:30
  krennic's in charge I we'll just make tarken say that he once presented it to
• 1:03:36
  them like cuz I wanted that too in the leadup to it I was like hang on a minute
• 1:03:40
  tken shows them the Death Star at the end of episode 3 no that one time that I
• 1:03:44
  presented it to them oh why was the Death Star upside down the entire time
• 1:03:49
  there's no upside down in space you mean I know but it just it looked wrong no
• 1:03:54
  upside down in space well cuz the the the gun had to point at the
• 1:04:01
  planet death star's always the other way around I like in this they um addressed
• 1:04:07
  more how the Death Star is able to move around too like it can actually move through
• 1:04:11
  hyperspace cuz that was kind of unclear in The Originals cuz it takes a long
• 1:04:15
  time to get to Yavin 4 and then into range I guess it just they jumped in
• 1:04:20
  outside of the system or whatever you know what I mean yeah whereas in this
• 1:04:24
  they just jumped straight in oh I love the be where [ __ ] Vader's death uh
• 1:04:28
  Star Destroyer yeah comes in just smashes through a bunch of ships that was pretty cool
• 1:04:34
  yeah I like the fact now we also have an explanation as to why there was that
• 1:04:38
  exhaust Port there yes exactly right that you know and it seems so obvious
• 1:04:44
  but it's like that's that's a great solution to that potential plot hole
• 1:04:49
  that was handled really well like it he designed it like something that's small
• 1:04:54
  enough that will go unnoticed by everyone else but it's a big mistake that's right
• 1:05:00
  there that can be exploited yeah yeah cuz otherwise it yeah it didn't make
• 1:05:05
  much sense I felt like also another bit that I thought was a little redundant
• 1:05:11
  and I was surprised that they you know when they get the message right to say
• 1:05:14
  go to Scarff and get the plans but then they go to get a dad anyway I was like
• 1:05:19
  really like isn't it more important to go get the plans except I know cassan
• 1:05:24
  was supposed to kill him yeah but you always do that it's like Indiana Jones
• 1:05:27
  in the Last Crusade he could have gone straight there and got it but he went
• 1:05:30
  and rescued his dad first um yeah I call [ __ ] with Cassie not pulling the
• 1:05:34
  trigger really you think he would have done it I think he would have done it
• 1:05:37
  there is no reason why he would have thought for another St about fing that
• 1:05:43
  well only because if she's told him that that her dad put a a weakness in the
• 1:05:49
  Death Star right so he he knows that and then he sees krennic there they shoot
• 1:05:53
  all the other Engineers right and he's got him you know like he it looks like
• 1:05:57
  they're about to kill him too he would go oh wait a minute maybe maybe there is
• 1:06:01
  something going on here I reckon he would have fight before that like he the
• 1:06:05
  first time when he's talking to that other rebel and he just shoots him in
• 1:06:09
  the back to escape oh so you're saying before any of that stuff happened he
• 1:06:13
  would have just taken the shot yeah maybe that would have been inconvenient
• 1:06:17
  well actually no it wouldn't it would have made any difference except um she
• 1:06:20
  would have she wouldn't have trusted him as much no she wouldn't have got to say
• 1:06:23
  goodbye to her father yeah yeah cuz he still died so whatever yeah it just seems weird cuz
• 1:06:30
  they yeah they showed very ear on the movie that this is a guy who will just
• 1:06:34
  kill anyone to not not in a bad way it to save the Rebellion which is actually
• 1:06:40
  what they all go through and say like he's what Han's original character was supposed to
• 1:06:45
  be I've done some bad stuff but I'm doing it for the good of the universe so
• 1:06:49
  are you just you just telling us that now or we still talking about the film
• 1:06:54
  still talking about the film no no I'm just telling you now i' finally come out
• 1:06:57
  with it done some bad stuff okay yeah no we know Luke we
• 1:07:02
  know and if you want to see some of the bad stuff Luke's done tune in to Winter
• 1:07:06
  2 winter two game two game two game two
• 1:07:09
  game two col winter yeah game two colon
• 1:07:14
  winter yeah now I'm with this I'm actually more excited about the other
• 1:07:19
  stand alone Star Wars movies now set the bar pretty high I'm I'm still tented
• 1:07:25
  about that cuz I don't know that I want to see young Han Solo movie like I feel
• 1:07:29
  like this is this is different to that you I meane
• 1:07:35
  too I really think this this doesn't make me feel any better about a young
• 1:07:39
  Han Solo no what I'm hoping for is I'm hoping this opens the door to just other
• 1:07:44
  movies in the universe oh I agree with that yes absolutely also it wasn't until
• 1:07:50
  like obviously I know that this was the lead into episode 4 and but then it was
• 1:07:55
  wasn't until um towards the end that I actually realized I'm like wait no this
• 1:08:00
  is literally what happens beforehand of course it is like they win their first
• 1:08:04
  battle against the empire and then that's literally what happens seconds
• 1:08:08
  before the the [ __ ] movie starts yep and then and then it was when you know
• 1:08:13
  they got the plans up there and then Vader was chopping everybody up and then
• 1:08:16
  they're handing the plans off and then the T 4 is at T4 takes off yeah and I
• 1:08:22
  was like huh yeah right of course and I I kind of I was glad that I didn't
• 1:08:28
  remember that CU it you know it was like it was an exciting moment for me and
• 1:08:32
  then when they showed princess layer from like just the back I was like oh
• 1:08:36
  that's great and then it showed the front and I was like oh you didn't need
• 1:08:39
  to do that to be honest yeah they could have just showed
• 1:08:43
  it from the back and it would have been fine who doesn't want to see car Fisher from
• 1:08:49
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