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Episode 25: New Faces, Same Characters · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to episode twenty five of Rebellio for
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  Speaker 1: August seventh, twenty twenty five. I'm Amy, I'm Nicole Good,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Tom.
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  Speaker 2: How's everybody doing good?
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  Speaker 1: Where you know? Hanging in the heat wave is broken?
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  Speaker 1: I can actually record upstairs again in my house.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, enjoying the last bits of summer, but I
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: think we're all just waiting for a fall at this point.
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  Speaker 1: We're just I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I am come on Christmas forever Christmas?
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  Speaker 3: Like, whoa, do not skip over Halloween? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Wait, this is gonna be my Halloween. Yes, yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be my first Halloween, like in the Northern Hemisphere,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm very excited. It's also going to be my
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  Speaker 2: first Christmas. So yeah, let's let's to let's you know,
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  Speaker 2: to take in ye But yes, sorry, I cannot skip
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  Speaker 2: over Halloween because I'm actually looking forward to that. And
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  Speaker 2: there's already like decorations and stuff going on, Like the
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  Speaker 2: store is already like, uh selling pumpkins and uh blankets
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm feeling all the cozy vibes now.
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  Speaker 3: And it's even more so in America because we super
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  Speaker 3: overdo it over here. But I love it. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: Halloween girly.
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  Speaker 2: So so in this episode will be taking a closer
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  Speaker 2: look at all of the photos from the filming of
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  Speaker 2: the Harry Potter television series. But first.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to w WN, the Wizarding Wireless Network now for
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  Speaker 3: the latest headlines. So, yeah, we have a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of news. We recorded our last episode like earlier than
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  Speaker 3: we usually do, so a bunch kind of happened after
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  Speaker 3: we recorded, obviously, including all these leaked photos, and so
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  Speaker 3: we thought it would just be a good idea to
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: just make it our whole episode. But there's some like
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  Speaker 3: other news that has come out. So we learned that
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  Speaker 3: Universal Theme Parks the Exhibition will make its debut in
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia in February of twenty twenty six. This exhibit will
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  Speaker 3: be housed at the Franklin Institute and feature a behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes look at the Universal Parks. So a quote
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  Speaker 3: from the announcement of this is from animatronics and ride
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  Speaker 3: design to costuming and special effects, explore the artistry and
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  Speaker 3: technology behind the thrills and chills of the award winning
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  Speaker 3: Universal Theme Park. Dive into the creative world of story
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  Speaker 3: board artists, animators, game designers, visual effects artists and prop
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  Speaker 3: masters for a were glimpse into the universe of innovation
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  Speaker 3: powered by the talented teams pushing the boundaries of themed
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  Speaker 3: entertainment and shaping the future of epic experiences. So, while
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  Speaker 3: they don't mention Harry Potter as being one of the
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  Speaker 3: attractions featured in the exhibit, as one of the more
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  Speaker 3: popular sections of all the parts, it's hard to imagine
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  Speaker 3: it won't be. And you can sign up for ticket
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  Speaker 3: pre sale through the Franklin Institute's website. And I think
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  Speaker 3: this will be exciting exhibit. Amy and I are going
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  Speaker 3: to go down. We've been to other exhibits at the
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  Speaker 3: Franklin Institute before, we went to like a Disney one
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  Speaker 3: hundred exhibit, So they do a really good job with
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  Speaker 3: these exhibits. And I'm hoping that maybe, like I guess
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  Speaker 3: I'm nervous that maybe they can't have Harry Potter there
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  Speaker 3: because of like licensing, but I'm hoping that's not the case.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be cool regardless, but like I do hope
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  Speaker 1: it's included, consider it's like the most you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: those parts of the park are so like that's where
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  Speaker 1: everyone flocks to and you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Universal does have rights to Harry Potter, so it's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously it belongs to Warner Brothers first and foremost,
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  Speaker 2: but they do have the rights to distribute Harry Potter
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  Speaker 2: across their theme park, so it wouldn't make any sense
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  Speaker 2: for them not to, you know, not to include Harry
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  Speaker 2: Potter in this.
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  Speaker 3: Well. You know what's interesting that had me think of
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  Speaker 3: this is when the you know, how Starbucks does their
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  Speaker 3: like well, they used to be like been there, but
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  Speaker 3: now they're like the Discovery series. So for their Universal
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  Speaker 3: Epic Universe mug, Harry Potter is not represented on it.
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  Speaker 3: And I've seen some people say that they feel like
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  Speaker 3: it might be due to licensing things, so that could
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  Speaker 3: be who knows, But we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm, we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Early next year when Amy and I go, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure exactly when we're gonna go. That we are from
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  Speaker 3: a very snowy part of the United States of America,
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  Speaker 3: and so we might wait a little bit until we
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  Speaker 3: get out of the winter months so that we don't
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  Speaker 3: have to do that drive down to Philadelphia in the.
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  Speaker 1: Snow, so is bad enough in a sunny day, we
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  Speaker 1: don't need to.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I can do it, Like I we forgot
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  Speaker 3: to mention at the start of the show, but Amy
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  Speaker 3: and I were actually down in New York City the
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  Speaker 3: weekend before like we're recording this, and went down to
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  Speaker 3: the Harry Potter New York store, which actually will tie
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  Speaker 3: into a bit of news that I have coming up here.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I survived driving there, so and I've survived
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  Speaker 3: us driving to Philadelphia before. But yeah, I add in
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  Speaker 3: the snow and yeah, so I don't think we know
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  Speaker 3: how long this exhibition will go, but the Disney one
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  Speaker 3: hundred went for quite a bit, so I think it'll
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  Speaker 3: be there for several months, if not maybe through the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the year. We'll see. Yeah cool, and then
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  Speaker 3: lots coming for Back to Hogwarts. So that's actually right
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  Speaker 3: after Amy and I left Harry Potter New York the
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  Speaker 3: store I saw online that they like literally like the
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  Speaker 3: next day or a couple days after, released a Back
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  Speaker 3: to Hogwarts merch collection, like right after we were there,
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  Speaker 3: so naturally we didn't get to see it. But there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things coming for Back to Hogwarts twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five. It seems like the brand is really playing
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  Speaker 3: this up more than they ever have I think in
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  Speaker 3: years pass. So all eight Harry Potter films are returning
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  Speaker 3: to Regal cinemas here in the United States from August
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  Speaker 3: twenty third through the thirty first, and they're only going
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  Speaker 3: to be nine to seventy five each, which in this
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  Speaker 3: economy is a steal from movie techout. And then Regal
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  Speaker 3: also announced on Harry's birthday that there's also going to
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  Speaker 3: be collectible tumblers and book shaped popcorn tins available and
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  Speaker 3: these will be available in all four Hogwarts out.
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  Speaker 2: This is so cool, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Will say though, the one problem, I'm really curious to
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  Speaker 3: see how they navigate this because I have a little
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  Speaker 3: like bone to pick with Regal because they always do
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  Speaker 3: these really cool popcorn buckets, like for like when Star
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  Speaker 3: Wars came back in theaters and they do like a
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  Speaker 3: drink cup and a popcorn bucket, and they sell them
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  Speaker 3: before the showings. So when Revenge of the Sith came
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  Speaker 3: back to theaters for its anniversary, I went opening weekend
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  Speaker 3: and I was so excited to get my little drink
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  Speaker 3: cup in the popcorn bucket, and they were already sold
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  Speaker 3: out because people bought them before the showings even happened. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: so Regal has a habit of doing this, and I
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  Speaker 3: did see on their Instagram page on the comments, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people were asking like when are these going
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  Speaker 3: to be available, and they kind of just said, like
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  Speaker 3: closer to the movie. So I'm hoping they've learned, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if someone are representative from Regal stumbles upon this podcast, like,
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  Speaker 3: please take it to the powers that be that they
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  Speaker 3: should not be available until the actual screenings of these movies. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they look really cool. You can go to the Regal
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  Speaker 3: Instagram account to see them. They're going to be available.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I said this already, but in
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  Speaker 3: all four Hogwarts houses cool and then some more from
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  Speaker 3: Back to Hogwarts. So if you like, September one is
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: rapidly approaching, you know, as we talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: unfortunately Amy's not excited about it, but those of us
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  Speaker 3: that love falling Back to Hogwarts season, we're excited for it.
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  Speaker 3: So before we know it, it's going to be September first,
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  Speaker 3: and Harry Potter dot com posted like a roundup of
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  Speaker 3: all the different things that are going to be happening
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  Speaker 3: Back to Hogwarts twenty twenty five. So, in addition to
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  Speaker 3: the movies, coming back to Regal in the States, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to be doing another one of those back to
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  Speaker 3: Hogwarts showcases, So I think last year was the first
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  Speaker 3: year we did that, but they're calling it on the
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  Speaker 3: website in annual start of term announcements, so it seems
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  Speaker 3: like every year going forward we're going to get that
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  Speaker 3: showcase from them, which is nice. So you'll be able
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  Speaker 3: to watch the showcase around ten forty BST or that's
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  Speaker 3: five forty Eastern Standard Time across the official Harry Potter Instagram,
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  Speaker 3: their YouTube account, and their TikTok account. So if you
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  Speaker 3: remember last year, that's where we got kind of all
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  Speaker 3: those announcements in one go about certain things that were coming.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously big focus on Epic Universe, but we also learned
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: about that train experience, which we're still waiting for some
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  Speaker 3: more details on, and also some more details about where
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  Speaker 3: other experiences are going around the world, So look out
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  Speaker 3: for another one of those coming in a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: And then also, as I mentioned, the film's coming back
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  Speaker 3: to the theaters in the US, there's also going to
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  Speaker 3: be a special event at the end of August, but
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  Speaker 3: for Goblet of Fire specifically, it's going to be returning
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  Speaker 3: to cinemas worldwide because obviously we have an anniversary of
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: Goblet of Fire this year too, and there's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a special screening with James and Oliver Phelps in
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  Speaker 3: Leicester Square in London on the thirty first of August.
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  Speaker 2: That's cute cool. Yeah, I'm actually going to book tickets
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  Speaker 2: to not to the London one, but there there are
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  Speaker 2: showing Goblet of Fire and four and four D here,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm looking forward to that, I think everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say I think it's coming
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  Speaker 3: here to at a later time. That's a separate thing
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  Speaker 3: from this like back to Hogwarts return, But yeah, I
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: have to look into that to see if it's because
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: I have a forty X theater near me.
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  Speaker 1: So so when the dragon breathes fire, they're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we're gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Get you don't feel like you're on forbidden journey when
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: that dry yeah blows face exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Every seats dragons seat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to get that fourth seat your
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  Speaker 3: every season. Yes, And then there's also going to be
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  Speaker 3: for those of you that still use snapchat. I didn't
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: know snapchat was like still a thing.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: May kind with like teenagers now like your students. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm over here, Like I thought Snapchat died when
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: we graduated college.
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  Speaker 3: I deleted my app and I deleted by you.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: Uh well yeah, yeah, it's still I guess we're getting
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: a little old here. We're showing our age here. But
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  Speaker 3: Snapchat is going to be releasing some new Harry Potter
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  Speaker 3: bit moji lenses in mid August, so users will be
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  Speaker 3: able to place their bit moji into iconic locations such
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: as the Wizard Chess scene, Platform nine and three quarters,
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  Speaker 3: the Goblet of Fire moment in the Great Hall, and
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: the private Drive scene where Harry receives you know, his
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: plethora of Hogwarts letters but doesn't doesn't pick him up
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  Speaker 3: off the ground. And so that's just some of the
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  Speaker 3: things coming. I highly recommend visiting Harry Potter dot com.
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  Speaker 3: You just go under their news section and you can
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  Speaker 3: find their whole roundup of all the different back to
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: Hogwarts activities happening. They also have it broken down like
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  Speaker 3: what's happening near you? So, as I mentioned, there's some
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  Speaker 3: merchandise coming to like the Harry Potter shops, there's some
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: back to Hogwarts takeovers, happening to some stores, some discount
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  Speaker 3: of Cursed Child tickets. So a lot going on. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they have it broken up literally by country. You know
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  Speaker 3: what's happening near you.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I wonder if you'll be able to snag a ticket
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  Speaker 2: for Tom's performances, like if people will be able to
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  Speaker 2: book them in fans.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was. Let me actually have the website up.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: Let me see if I can pull it up really quick.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was for certain timeframes, like
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: it might just be because it's marketed as being part
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: of the Back to Hogwarts season, So I'm wondering if
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  Speaker 3: it's only for like September or performances in a certain week. Well,
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: let me see if I can find it here. Oh. Also,
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  Speaker 3: it looks like the Warner Brothers Studio tour in London
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: is going to be hosting an eleven am countdown, which
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: is fun. And there's also going to be a meet
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  Speaker 3: and greet with min Alma. Let's see. Okay, Kursechoud on
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  Speaker 3: Broadway offering shows for nineteen dollars as the play is said.
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  Speaker 3: Nineteen years later, the Kirchchild production in New York has
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: had the idea to release tickets to their shows for
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: only nineteen bucks. The special price ticket will only be
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: available to grab on the first of september' mark your calendars.
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  Speaker 3: So it looks like maybe they're only for the first
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: of September. Maybe a I will We'll see, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: but if you're in the New York area, definitely check
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  Speaker 3: that out because that's like a steal for those tickets. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I mean the last bet of news I
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: had on here was just a few episodes back. We
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: had talked about those new Pocket Potter's books that are
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: coming that are like, we're like, seem very good for
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: children and introducing them to the different characters of Harry Potter.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: And we recently learned that the books for Luna and
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Professor Dumbledore are going to be the next in the series,
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: publishing in February of twenty twenty six. And like the
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: other books that we talked about, if you go to
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Harry Potter dot com, you can see exclusive looks inside
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: those books. So feel very cute. And that was the
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: major news that I saw other than what we're about
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: to dive in for our main discussion.
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  Speaker 1: So in true Ravellio fashion, literally right after we record
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  Speaker 1: last episode, a whole bunch of photos from filming the
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: TV show came out, so that's what where are we
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  Speaker 1: talking about today. So the first one that we got
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  Speaker 1: really was this first glimpse of Dominic McLaughlin as Harry,
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  Speaker 1: and this was like an official photo shared out. He's
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  Speaker 1: holding up the clapboard and it's got you know, the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: scene and the date and all that on it. So
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  Speaker 1: according to the clapboard, this was taken at the start
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: of scene one, episode one, season one, but he's in
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  Speaker 1: his Hogwarts robe, So clearly that was just written like
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: that for posing purposes.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Could they be filming out of order? Could they be
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: starting with things and going back?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Not if it says scene one, though, because.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: It was truly oh the first scene, right baby Harry.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, say like Seen twenty or whatever, probably for
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: this moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I think it's just like
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: a photo op of like here we are starting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense if it's aid scene
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  Speaker 2: fifteen or Seen forty five, like you know, it's like
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, so it kind of makes sense that everything
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: is like one one one one one.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but it's a cute photo. We get
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to see the Hogwarts uniform. We get to see uh
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  Speaker 1: dominic with the makeup and the scar and the hair
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  Speaker 1: and glasses. So just a few of the details things
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  Speaker 1: to note here. We've got the traditional black rope. It
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: is not lined with the scarlet like the films, though
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  Speaker 1: there's it looks like the lining is also black. He's
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: got on a maroon vest with like a scarlet and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: gold detailing at the v neck, a deep red tie
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: with the gold detailing around glasses obviously. Yeah, so those
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: are a few of the things here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's also interesting because a lot of people
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: were commenting like, oh, they used the same costumes as
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: the films, and I was like, have you ever even
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: paid attention to how they look like? You can see
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: clearly the distinction between each. It's almost as different as
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Cursechild is to the movies, uh in terms of costume,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: even though I think, like even it looks more like
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: at least like the best, Like the sweater looks a
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: bit more like the curs Child version. So I'd say
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like a blend because the ropes kind
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: of look like Years one and two ropes from the films,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: but then like the and the tie looks very different
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: as well. It looks paler, but I think it's because
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it needs to contrast a little with the coloring of
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the vest. So if they're using that that's vibrant and colorful,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: then maybe they had to tone down the tie a
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: little bit more than the one in the films. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: like it. I like it looks like a traditional British
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: boarding school.
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  Speaker 1: So I really like the maroon for the best.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see what the other houses because
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: clearly they're going to model that and every house is
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: going to have and hopefully your hufflepuffs get like a
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: nice deep mustard yellow vest, and yeah, it'll be really
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see what they do with raven
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Claw as well, like with emblems and stuff. But if
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: they correct you know that a little bit. But yeah,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I agree, I really like this and I think that
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to continues to see well, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: when we talk about Hagrid too, it's the same thing.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Like I'm kind of a little confused when there's the
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: notion of like it looks so similar, it's going to
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I think, like kind of like what we talked about
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: in the last episode you know when Tom was talking
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: about his little rat about the uh oh.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah, is that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Like we have to remember, like this is still the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: same universe. And I don't know about like you guys,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: but like I still want it to look recognizable. Like
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I think that of course it should not be a
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: carbon copy and this isn't right. Like we have elements
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: here of you know, the coloring and the tie with
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the stripe, but it's a different kind of stripe and
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: it's just but it still looks like a Hogwarts uniform.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Like I think everything we have such an image in
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: our mind of what these things should look like from
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: how they're described in the book and how they were
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: presented in the film that I think if they took
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: a drastic, complete rebrand, people would be unhappy too. It'd
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: be like, no, that's not what Hogwarts costumes look like.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So like I think it should look familiar but different,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and I think it does. I think they captured that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: They has their own twist, but it is very very
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: clearly hairy, and it's very clearly a Hogwarts uniform.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: And I mean, like Tom said, we've done this before.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: We've done this with every different iteration that's in a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: different timeline. You've got the Cursed Child stuff going on
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: with different uniforms but yet still your basic robe, you know,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and then uniform underneath like all of that, you've got
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the Hogwarts legacy stuff, which same idea, slightly different but
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: like still has that same aesthetic.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So illustrated books.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: All going to have the same aesthetic. It's just going
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: to have little variations because it's still the same word,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: it's still the same world. And I think that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You want to still be able to recognize it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I think especially for people that aren't like
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: massive fans right like, they want this to be they
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: want to draw in new people, and I think to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: do that you do have to have some element of sameness.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And again I stand by if they had drastically changed it,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I think people would be up at arms about it
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: being drastically changed. But I think when you really look
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: at the details, like that's where you notice, like I
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: had put in the dock here, Like if you zoom
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in on Harry's glasses, they're the iconic circular shape, right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: but they don't look solid black. If you zoom in
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: on them, they actually look like they're a tortoise shell,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and so it's little details like that, like they're unmistakably
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: his glasses, yes, but they're not the same. They're very
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you know, they're very different.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: So I like the first thing I noticed when I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: looked at this photo was the scar. And I love
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: how they've done the scar.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I love what they did with the scar because here's
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: the thing. In the films, it never really looked supernatural,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: which makeup scar, right, And I guess, like, you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you could suspend your disbelief a little bit because like, already,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: having a perfectly shaped lightning bolt scar is not likely,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and it obviously was a scar created out of magic,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: so I think you could say, well, of course it's
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: not going to really look like a true scar. But
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: now seeing it actually look like skin and how a
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: scar looks, I'm just like, wow, I like that so much.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And it's still a lightning bolt shape, but it's just
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: way more natural and like it just seems a little
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: bit more like just a jagged scar rather than something
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: somebody painted on. The placement's good, Like it's off to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the right side of his forehead more instead of very
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: central to his.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: In the middle.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I like it. I like it a lot.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I like it too. What about you, Tam, what do
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: you think of the scar?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I like it?
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I like the fact, like everything, I keep seeing that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: it's different somehow to what we were used to. I'm
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: happy with because it just you know, opens up this
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: world a little bit more, just gives it more more
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: space to breathe and to just give people something new
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: but at the same time familiar. So the fact that
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the yeah, it's a different lightning bolt, it is familiar,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: but at the same time, the lightning ball that we
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: have from the films is so iconic at this point
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: that it's tattooed over millions and millions of different arms
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: and legs and whatnot. And so it's like they are
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: taking creative risks after all, and they are really you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: taking mid up a notch or whatever you want to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: call it, and just say, you know, let's just do this,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: but let's just do this a little different, let's deviate
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: from this version of this. So and I feel it's
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: a common part pattern that we're seeing, as opposed to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: my rant from last episode that legitly was the Great Haul.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, like, I like these kind of
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: like creative risks and if having this different interpretation, because
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: that's what we also want to see, so something a
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: little different. So yeah, I'm I was kind of pleased
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: when when I saw this this first like official glimpse
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: of Harry.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks really good. And I feel like I messaged,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: like I feel like I texted Amy or Amory were
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: talking about it. I don't remember if it was texting
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: her on our long car ride to New York City
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: or something we were talking about how like I am
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: kind of surprised, like how quickly my brain is just
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: accepting all of this. Like I saw this picture of him,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean Greg going back to when we
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: first got that shot of the three of them, right,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I just was like, oh my god, yeah that's Harry,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Ron and Hermione. And then I had a moment of like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: oh my god, am I like my cheating on Dan?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: You know, like it felt kind of weird to be
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: like wow, well, and then seeing Dominic in costume, I
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: just like my brain has no second thoughts. But also
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: like I watched Harry Potter this past weekend, you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and I still look at that and I'm like, that's Harry,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and it's kind of I think sometimes we forget how
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: easily our brain can adapt to these different things. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I think I think people might be pleasantly surprised when
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: they start to see this how quickly you actually can
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: accept that this is the same thing but different and
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: it doesn't always need to be a full comparison. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean every look we've gotten, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: have not been that's not my Harry, that's not my Hagrid.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I have fully embraced it much easier than I even
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: thought I would.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: But it happened in chirschild as well. When I went
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: to see Christyl last year and that was Harry, Ron
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: and Hermione. Like there was no second guessing. I wasn't saying, oh,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: this is not Dan, Rubert and Emma, so I'm not
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: gonna accept it. And the fact that it was so
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: easy for me is that I never took it as
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: a replacement. I just took it as a different interpretation.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And that's something that I think me and many fans
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: have to like kind of like plug out of our
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: heads somehow like and be like, we need to start
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: stop thinking of this as a replacement, but more as
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a different interpretation, and you know, knowing that it's coming
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: from a source material that's not a movie, it's actually
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: a book, and it's probably going to have more adaptations
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: in the years to come, and it's yeah, it's just
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: it's just a matter of accepting it and being like, Okay,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I can accept it, like you said, Nico, I can
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: accept it, but not necessarily accepting it means okay, so
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Dan Rubernemma don't mean anything to me anymore, because that's
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: never going to be the case. But it is, like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's fascinating how how quickly it's like, oh, yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that's Harry, that's Remione, that's wrong, that's Hagrid, that's you know.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I think too, because we're book readers, right, Like
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: we fell in love with this story as book readers,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: and then we got the film adaptations. I could see
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: if you fell in love with Harry and the Crew
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and Hogwarts and the story first through the films and
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: then discovered the books, that maybe it could be harder
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: to make that swap. But I think when you fall
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: in love with a book series first, you kind of
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: like it. It's more about the character than like what
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: they look like right, because you're never going to find
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: an actor or an actress that I think necessarily perfectly
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: embodies maybe how you imagined a character in your mind,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: or how they're described by the author, or you know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: anything like that. And so I think that maybe that's
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: where it's coming from, too, is that I know the
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: qualities of Harry, right, I know the characteristics of Harry,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: and that can be portrayed by multiple people in a
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: convincing way, and so you just kind of be like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: oh my god, yeah, of course that's Harry. I mean
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: when I was reading Harry Potter as a child, it's
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: not like I pictured Dan until we got Dan Ay
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: and then you know, and then I think it slapped
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: a little bit in my brain. But like, we fell
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: in love with these characters, Like if you read the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: book series first before the films, you fell in love
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: with these characters before you saw them visually portrayed. And
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: we've seen them, like you said, Tom portrayed in a
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: lot of different ways through different actors, different actresses, different illustrations.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they all have
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: a similarity to them and a recognizability to them. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I think when we see them act it out. You'll
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: also see those characteristics.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So one that also was super easy
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to accept, I think for a lot of people. And
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I saw this discourse, like everywhere after this photo came out,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of people saying, wow, Okay, that's Hagrid.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: We got pictures of Nick frost all in costume as
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Hagrid and he looks affect like you read Hagrid's description
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and this is this guy. I mean, I love Robbie,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: but man, yeah, they nailed it again. And that's I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: think is impressive to me, is like nailing casting twice
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: twice like that, like it's perfect.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I've seen a lot of people kind of immediately
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: be like, well, they just copied Robbie's Hagrid. They didn't
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: copy Robbie's Hagrid. Robbie's Hagrid was book Hagrid. And so
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: we're just seeing book Hagrid again with a slightly different face.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: You know. I think that's what we have to remember,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: is like, like I just you know, said, is like
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: they the movies did a really good job. I mean
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I think in some parts. I think we'll see it
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: and we'll talk about it later with some other characters
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: that I think they've nailed an even better representation of.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: But Hagrid, we have such a good description of him,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: and it's I mean, how else was he going to look?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: How else was gonna look?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And what's so funny to me is like, if you
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: ever see pre movie Hagrid merch, it looks like Robbie
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So yeah, like you said, it's just
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: we've got such a perfect description of this character that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: they nailed it in the merch, they nailed it in
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the movie casting, and to me, they've nailed it again
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: for the TV show like it just it very much
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: follows that description. I agree.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Mm.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Which again, since we're talking about a photo, I'll just
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: give a little description of what the photo is. Obviously, listeners,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you should be going and looking at these photos yourself.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: That would probably be helpful. But so in this photo,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you know, he's got the shaggy, long brown hair and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: beard of Hagrid. He's wearing an olive green overcoat with
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: what looks like wood in toggle closures. They're very like
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: stick like.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: In natural looking I look very handmade.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Like he's just whittled them with his knife. Underneath the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: overcoat he's got a dark brown or like a reddish
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: vest that's unbuttoned, but it's got these long rows of
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: buttons down it. Underneath the vest is a striped shirt
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: with earthy colors like green, brown, red. And he's wearing
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: knit fingerless gloves.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Which is one big difference with Robbie's Hagrid that he
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: didn't wear gloves. So yeah, as well, like, how can
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: you deviate from that character description? You know, how can
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you just do some completely different It's no way, like
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: you know, like you said, Hagrid is Hagrid. Whatever representation
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you have of him, whatever depiction you have of him,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: is gonna be good, right, you know, because it's so
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's so descriptive, it's so like detail
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: how he looks like, and it's not hard to make
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: him come to life. Of course, we'll have to see
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: how he portrays him, but I'm sure he's going to
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: be great. But like, as far as like the image goes,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it's you know, it's there's not much you can say,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: like oh, because he you know, obviously you can. There's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: not much you can do about this character.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he would never not be wearing an overcoat.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's just it's his uniform.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: When it's like and I just like really implore to like,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: also look at I mean side by side, you know.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I actually just pulled up a side by side of
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Robbie and Nick, and it's again very similar
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: with you know, Dominic and dan Is that it's unmistakably Hagrid,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: but it's new and it's very different, and even in
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the facial hair they've changed it a little bit. So
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: like Robbie's facial hair was very much the mustache going
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: right down into the beard, and there almost looks to
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: be a bit of it, and maybe it's a makeup thing,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: but it almost seems like there's a little bit of
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: a separation here where it's like you've got almost a
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: more tame mustache and then the beard coming in. And yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm literally looking at the picture side by
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: side right now, and I look at both and I'm like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: that's Hagrid. Like I don't I don't know, I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: he looks great. Maybe I'm easily pleased, but like I mean,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I also I was really curious to hear your thoughts
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: on all of this time, because I know, compared to me,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and Amy, You've been the one that's a little bit
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: more skeptical, you know about the show, where I think
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Amy and I have been very like, we just want
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: to see you and we'll kind of, you know, see
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: what we think as as we see things, and clearly
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: we're excited by what we're seeing.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean it is still hard a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: little bit because to me, at least, I first got
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: introduced to Harry Potter watching the film. So the first thing,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: my first contact with Harry Potter was watching SORCER's Stone
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: in theaters. So I then became acquainted with the books
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: and I started reading them and I became like very
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you know, an avid reader in that regard. But like
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to me, it's harder just because to me, that was
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: my first universe, my first depiction of the universe. So
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: it's still hard for me, and I feel like it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: always going to be hard. I feel like I'm never
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: going to like fully accept it in that sense, and
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'll always have the movie the movies
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: in that like high regard, and it's it's interesting, but
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's still interesting, it's nice and it's pleasing to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: see these these new you know, representations of the characters,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and it's nice to see that again they're giving it
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: their own touch, their own feel, and I'm very curious
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to see how the sets are going to look like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: how the you know, how Ron and hermiond are going
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: to look like, how Snape is going to look like.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: That's the one I'm most curious about. So yeah, I
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: mean it's just a matter of you know, just seeing
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: how it plays out. But you know, so far, these
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: these images have looked very promising, and yeah, I'm you know,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a downgrade version. It doesn't look
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: you know, something that you know, it feels like there's
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: been a lot of thought and a lot of pre
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: production into, you know, into making this. So yeah, it's nice.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It's nice to see it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So a lot of the leaked photos that
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: we got, because obviously the first one of Dominic and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the one of Nick were intentionally posted two official social
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: media channels, they're posed, but we got a bunch of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: leeks as well from filming because interestingly, as we speculated
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: if they would film in public places or more on sets,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: they're filming out in the publics. So that's how we
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: got a bunch of photos. We got a lot from
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: them filming in the London Zoo in Regent's Park, so
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: obviously filming that zoo scene with the snake and Dudley
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: falling through the class.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think I gu it's really interesting that
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: they're filming this in the same location of where they
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: filmed it for the movies. Yeah, I can see tom just.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Like no, but I don't know, because I was actually thinking,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: is in aren't they at the same location in the books?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: That's when I was trying to remember. I'm pretty sure
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: they specify the London Zoo in the book.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is, so how much can you again, how
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: much can you deviate from that and those things? If
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I saw them there, yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Or a real place like this isn't a real place, right,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: The London Zoo is a real place, right.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: If you saw them at King's Cross Station, obviously you
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: know they are going to be there because well, it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: changed so much from the nineties to now, so they're
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: probably going to build a set replica of how it
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: looked in the nineties. But like, even if they did,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it's things that obviously are going to happen, because there
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: are some things that are literally from Muggle world, so
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: there's no way you can change that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: But you're going to their own train station and call
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: it something else. Yeah, Queen's cross Station exactly.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Like what are you gonna do about that? Like, but yeah,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to talk about this and a
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: little bit. But something I loved about it is the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: nineties esthetic again, so again familiar but new now because
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: it's very it's very in your face. I feel I
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: almost felt like I was watching an eighties It almost
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: looks eighties.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It's like we're so old well.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: It because like the early nineties is basically still eighties.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Like we're right in that blend of like the eighties
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and early nineties super blended together with.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: The breakers, the polos, the track suit. Yeah, it's all.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I love it. And as a nineties baby, I just
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: feel like, wow, blast from my past.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Glad we aren't seeing people with cell phones and you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: doing tiktoks or doing weird things like I'm glad this
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: is just like very much rooted in the early nineties.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's cool. I it's interesting because, like I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: specifically read when they were making the films, they said
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: they wanted it to feel as timeless as possible, Like
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: so you couldn't nail down what decade it was in.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: So it's so interesting that like the TV show is like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: yeah it is.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we are in the nineties.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Baby, yeah. Great, And the film's kind of failed, I
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: mean not failed. They are pretty timeless. But at the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: same time, you do see flat screens. You do know
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you're into twenty tens, you know, like you do know
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you are in the late two thousands, you do know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: like there are certain things that you start seeing in
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the films as they progress that go to tie in
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: more with the contemporary time we were living in. So
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: but this is like you like you guys said, this
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: is like them saying, Okay, no, we're just going to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: stick to the actual chronological order and the timeline where
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: it has to be. So I was very happy to
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: see it, uh to see these changes.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Love it, Okay, I think too when you get to
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: like the Wizarding World part right, that isn't so much
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: like decade driven because they wizards dress a certain way
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and I would assume that they would still dress that
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: same way kind of now as they did then. So
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're really playing with these like Muggle
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: world scenes as much as they can because there's a
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: limited amount of time, I think, to capture the decade
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: that you're in in the Muggle world.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really set that tone. So the first photo
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: we have is again Harry, and I gotta say, the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: scar looks very very wow. What's the word English consistent?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: It's not even a big word, but it just disappeared
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: for a second. As far as our time, words are hard,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: but the scar looks very consistent against the like across
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the photos we've gotten so far. So that's nice.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I was kind of word about that because in a way, like,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: even though we just talked about how much nicer it looks,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's harder to keep it consistent because it's
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: more detailed than the film one was.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So in this photo he's wearing a blue footed
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: sweatshirt and it says a sports on it with some
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: sort of image of a basketball and some sort of
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: logo going on. I tried to search and figure out
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: what a sports is and if it has any kind
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of like meaning in the UK or in the nineties,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: couldn't find anything.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I haven't found anything either, I mean as like when
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I lived in the UK, I never It's not like
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: there was a sports stores everywhere or anything like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: And actually, like when I googled it, it pulled up
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: sports equipment stores here in the United States, So yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what that's in reference.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was something that I was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: just totally missing. So I don't know. So listeners, if
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you're in the UK and we've rially screwed up, let
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: us know a sports is like a thing.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I just want to add that I like absolutely love
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Dominic's face in this picture. I think it just is
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: this for those of you that have seen the images,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: it's the one where he's kind of like looking over
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: and has like a bit of like a sassy I
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: guess is the best way to describe it. Like it's
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: major side eye, but it just is like so hairy
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: like with the face.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: And.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm just like yeah, yeah, and the Dursley
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: is obviously and just like, oh my god, I have
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: to be out in public with these people, and it
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: just it just looks so good. Like I'm excited to
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: see what he does with Sassy Harry when we get
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: to like order the Phoenix.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely. So we also got Dudley. This is
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: where the nineties have just exploded. Okay, So he is
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: wearing a gray blue and white striped short sleeved wind
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: breaker over another short sleeved blue shirt.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: But not only is this a wind breaker, amy it
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: is a track suit because he is wearing matching joggers
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: in that same nylon wind breaker material. So nineties, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: you know is going to be right off with the
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: nineties style, right because he's got to be the cool
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: kid in with everything.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Zipped all the way up. There is no leeway on
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that zipper.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: It's nope, he's got the sneakers on it. It is
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: so nineties.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost looks like something from Back to the Future,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: you know, like it just just yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I mean we loved those tracksuits and win breakers in
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: the nineties and an eighties they did too in the eighties.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what made them even better if
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: they were the zip offs where you can make it
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a capri, you can make it a short, you could
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: wear one leg all the way and one leg as
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: a short, you name it.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I have so many pairs of those, and I cannot
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: believe because you would never catch me wearing anything like
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: that now, But in like elementary school, I loved those.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: You never know when the leather's just going to change
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: from one season to another in the same day, and boy,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you're just prepared.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Now thinking about it. They actually were really practical and
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: they had I think their jackets too, that you could
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: like zip off the arms and stuff. I think that
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: that's blue.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: This is because he's down to short.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Right now, like it. It kind of looks like it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. He's also got this really fancy looking wristwatch
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: on too, which maybe that's one of his birthday gifts.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So the reason why we know this is a matching
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: track suit is because there's another picture of Dudley and
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: we're assuming Peers focus. It's got to be. It's got
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to be, yeah, and they're they're both in there in
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: this golf cart on set and they're both in matching
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: track suits. Peers also has a matching track suit, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you gotta believe it's bright blue, the official color scheme
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: of the nineties. Everyone with the white sneakers.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just love that they're matching because like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: of course they would be right. And I think the
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: one thing I really loved about seeing this leaked footage
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: is that it really just lends again to like the
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: sentiment that they are really trying to make this more
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: faithful to the books, right because in the books, Peers
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: goes with them to their reptile house, and in the
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: movies we don't get Peers, you know. So that's the
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: first thing I thought of actually when I saw these
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: pictures is like, wow, like we actually are going to
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: be including details that are in the books that were
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: not there in the films.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they better because they have like eight
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: hours to fill. So right, well that's a lot of content.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Well we'll talk about that a little bit later too,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: because there's other things that kind of came out around that,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: but yeah, they've got that time. Yeah, they've got that
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: time to fill. But yeah they will. You know. I
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: never thought i'd say this about, you know, Dudley, but
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: they look pretty cool in their tracks boots, and they
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: just seem like I feel like Dudley seems like a
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: little bit older, Like I feel like the way that
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: they're dressed, and like maybe because he's tall to the actor,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: but looks a little bit older than I would have
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: think thought of Dudley at this time in the story,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: but it could just be a tall kid.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So then we also have Vernon and yeah, another
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: classic nineties Yeah gray polo with red and white stripes
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: because if it's not blue, it's gonna be red. Large glasses,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and his mustache looks fabulous, very Vernon.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Like I just want to say here, I don't remember
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: what episode it was, but whatever the episode it was,
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: when we got the cast reveal for the Dursleys and
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: everybody kind of started freaking out because the Dursleys were
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: pretty good looking and we're like what And I remember
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: saying specifically in that episode, let's just wait until they
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: are in costume, because costume can do so much. And
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: if you compare these leaked photos of this man with
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: his casting photo, he has transformed, Like I don't have
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: to worry about being like, Wow, Vernon's handsome, because I
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: think they did a really good job with the makeup here. Yeah,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: the mass, the mustache is so fabulous, the glasses, the
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: whole thing about it. I think he looks great.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go through that whole crisis that
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: would have been if you found yourself attracted to Vernon. Dursley. No, no, yep,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Like when I realized I was attracted to Aberford, I.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, I too, and it is what it is.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: It is a scary moment. I think Vernon would have
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: just like that one killed me right then there.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Right, so like you can justify it, like to be like, yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Vernon Dursley.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah no.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: They did a great job, I think with the costuming
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: and the makeup, and I'm sure his acting too, will
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: just make him even more you know, the ugly person
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: that Vernon is.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we also have a photo of Petunia, which
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize this was Petunia until Nicole included
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it in the dock because it's just her head down
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: in the corner and I didn't know. I assumed maybe
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that was just a production assistant.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know, look at her, she looks so nineties
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: like that if that was just a crew member, Like
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: they're stuck in the nineties, because he has got the haircut,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: the haircut, the b the big glasses again and like
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: she's blonde. And I'm so excited that she's blonde because
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: that is book accurate. Petunia.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. She looks very like Hi maintenance nine Days body.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, upity soccer mom.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: You just know she's got a really fancy designer bag
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: on her wrist right now. Even though we can't see it,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: it's there.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Weird. That's the only picture that we have. Well you
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: know that they didn't manage to another picture of her.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't see one. I couldn't seem to find one.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, someone someone has.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: To have one, right because look at all these photos.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: They smell like wear, you know, like.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, yeah, it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Looks like she's got a blick them. If you look
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: kind of closely at the picture here, it's like a
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: like a baby blue in white striped kind of number.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if it's a dress. It looks
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: like a collar, but we really can't see much, but
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: it does look like it's blue and white striped. I
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: think they look great.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah, so another scene they seem to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: be filmed.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Wait, sorry, there is actually sorry sorry sorry, but I
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: was just because I was sure I had seen one
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: another there is. It's the same one. It's just full body, That's.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: What I was gonna say. Someone's got to have the
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: full body, right if we're taking that, like, look at
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: it a handbag.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: And so white.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: It's not it's not a dress. She's got that sweater.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: No, but I got the sense of the dress as well. Yeah,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I also thought it was a dress based on the
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: first like headshot.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: And okay, that she would have the card again draped
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: over her shoulders and nodded and nodded in the front,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: with a huge little necklace that looks like it kind
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: of looks like it's a locket that has like one
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: of those like Victorian kind of like fingers on it. Cameos.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the high waisted pink high.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Waisted pink pants and the belt belt.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, enough, got her nails done.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Look, she's got her nails done. And some jewelry on.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Very posh, very posh.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know, she's going to have a fabulous cocktail
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: dress for that dinner with the Masons.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: But why does she look like cool Petunia at the
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: same time, you know, she looks like somehow laid back
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: cool Petunia as against the one from the films, Like
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: she looked so uptight and so like, you know, she
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be she would never wear a shirt, a T shirt.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: So the comparison is, you know, just very shocking. At
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the same time. But of course, like I want to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: see her in action, see how she because right now
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: she's giving like this cool aunt thing.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: But yeah, she looks kind of like I said, she's
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: got a look about she's got something about her. Obviously
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: this is not.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: This is behind the scenes way she's behind.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: The scenes, Yeah, with the bob and everything. Right, Yeah,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: we're seeing.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: She's judging someone, Yeah.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Filming a scene. This is like because there's obviously crew
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: members and stuff here. So it's just a candid shot
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: of her as the actress. So I think once we
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: see them in action, she'll kind of be able to
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: play on that ugliness. But I think that she, in
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: my opinion, she looks like a more book accurate Petunia
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: than they got in the films.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, peeking out of the window, spying on the neighbors.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: With that haircut.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Totally.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: It looks like her sweater has some like florals and
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: bordered like embroidered on it.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Sorry and interrupted you, Amy, but I just saw that.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I have to face it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Good, I'm glad you found that.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, So there is another scene that, uh,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: they were caught filming out in public for and it
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: looks like it could possibly be maybe for leading up
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: to diagon Alley or potentially maybe going to King's Cross something.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But it's photos and video of Harry and Tagrid in
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: London and the video they're going downstairs, I'm assuming to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the train like the underground.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the video what you're seeing in the video
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: is not like a scene as well. It's just because
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: you can see there's a crew member who is helping
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Hagrid down the stairs. So it's not like we're still
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: not seeing actual like scenes. We're still kind of getting
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: the behind the look. But the thing that's really nice
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: about this is like you get such a clear view
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: of Hagrid in the video, especially just towering over Harry,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: towering over all the crew and around. So I think
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: they've they've captured that magic again of making him look
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: just ginormous amongst everybody else. And I don't know, Like
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you guys what you thought, but
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: like when I watched the video and everything, like I
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: honestly can't fully tell like if this is Nick Frost
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: or if.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: This is like I think it's a buddy double. I
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: think because he's so big and I think Nick is
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: kind of shorter. I'm not sure. No, I mean, obviously
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: shorter than Hagrid, but I think he's even shorter than Robbie.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: So I think that. And also because of the way
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: that the face it looks like very stiff, and it
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: looks like as if it was someone wearing the mask
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: on top of him, like just like they would deal
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: with the films. So I'm pretty pretty sure it's actually
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the double.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was wondering too, with how the crew members
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: helping him down the stairs. I wonder if he's got
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: some sort of like platforms in his shoes to make
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: him appearing and taller as well, because he seems to
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: be kind of struggling down those stairs.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Or he's struggling to see because he's behind a.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Mask, right, Yeah, it's so obvious in the video that
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: it looks like a struggle.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're going to talk a little bit
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: more in this episode about the movie magic behind Hagrid
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: and how they make Hagrid look so big, and I
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: think we might be seeing some of those same tactics
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: being used here, which I love because you know, obviously
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: we're so much much more in the future, right, and
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: technology has advanced in everything, and I love that there's
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: still it seems like they're still wanting to do this
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: practically and not bring in CGI and all those other
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: things that we normally see in movies nowadays. So yeah,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I'm just glad that it seems like they're still trying to, yeah,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: keep Hagrid looking real.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And Dominic looks really good in the scene too.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: He's got like a bright like a bright blue like
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: color block kind of jacket on. Again, still very nineties.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Primari colors of the primary colors.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: And yeah, so that's like all the photos that we've
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: gotten so far. They kind of came in hot and
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: fast right when production started in mid July, and we
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: haven't really seen anything since. So they must be definitely
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: moving into their more street you know, locations or sets
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that they've built. But I'm hoping that we continue to
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: like maybe get some sneak sneak peeks, and hoping that
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: maybe HBO like puts out some more official photos as
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: well of like you know, our the trio and everything
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: like that. I think a lot of us were expecting
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: that that week, every day we were gonna get a
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: new photo.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: And we did thought, Yeah, I thought it was gonna
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: be Harry Hagrid and then run and Hermione together and
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: or even can you imagine snape that's gonna cost that's
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: gonna cost some you know, like, yeah, it's gonna make
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: people talk. But I mean I have I have kind
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: of high hopes for that one.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, and there's still like, in a way, like
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I kind of hope that they do put out something
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: because there's still a lot of rumors like surfacing around
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: the internet that they've recast it. So I think that
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: at some point, I mean, maybe HBO is just going
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: to wait until the show comes out or whatever to like,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: but I feel like maybe we will see something because
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: it will help kind of like address those rumors in
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: whichever way is true. But speaking of rumors, so also
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: when all this production started, so we got all of
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: these photos, but we also had some more like I'm
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: going to call them rumors because there is unconfirmed information
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: that came out again, like I mentioned, right around when
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: production started mid July by this website it's Danian Intelligence,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: and they kind of released a bunch of stuff in
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: like a report, And I mean I would say, take
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: all of this with a grain of salt, because they've
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: since removed the article. So I don't know if it's
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: like they've removed the article because they have found that
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: this isn't true. Did HBO like reach out to them
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: and be like, where did you get this?
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: You know, but we see leaked information all the time, right,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: So it's really int saying that this article has since
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: been removed. But I thought it would still be cool
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: to kind of like talk about the stuff that came
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: up in this report. So in this report, they said
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: that HBO plans on filming the first two seasons back
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: to back, which I know that we had like speculated.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: But then I feel like in the last episode or something, Tom,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: did you mention like they weren't doing that, Like I know,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like us talking. I feel like I remember
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: us talking about it maybe not being that way, but
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: they are. They're trying to confirm that that is what's happening.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: I mean to me, that makes sense that that's what
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: they'd be doing. I know. I also saw an article
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: that they're building a school for the children like next
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: to the film set, so that they can kind of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: still just be in school while they're filming, so to me,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: it makes sense that they'd be filming back to back.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: And so they shared that production of season two would
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: be slated to begin in July twenty twenty six, which
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: is about two months after season one is expected to wrap. Again,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: this is all rumored, unconfirmed information. They also had shared
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: in this report that season two would reportedly wrap in
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty seven if they follow a similar
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: production timeframe as the first season. The most interesting thing
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: that came out of this report that I think got
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of people talking on the interwebs is that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: the report revealed that the episode counts for the first
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: two seasons would be shorter than expected. So we previously
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: learned from the showrunner and the director that the first
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: season would comprise a would comprise of eight episodes, but again,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: they never use the words it's going to be eight episodes.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: I think people assumed it would be eight episodes because
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: they said, we're going to have eight hours to tell
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: the first book. But that doesn't necessarily mean eight episodes, right,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: You could have episodes. It still could total eight hours,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: but these episodes could be an hour and fifteen minutes long,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: an hour and forty eight an hour and a half
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: two hours, like they can play with that time, and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: some episodes might be longer than the others. We see
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: this a lot with HBO and their other shows House
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: of the Dragon, not every episode is the same length.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: So this got of people talking a lot because the report.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: They're saying in the report that it's only going to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: be six episodes, which seems so short, but also in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: line with like what a lot of series are doing now,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Like remember back in the day when we used to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: have like sixteen episode series and now they seem to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: like cap at eight. So I mean, if this, if
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: this is true, like, how do we feel about it
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: only being possibly six episodes long.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I would rather have eight one hour episodes than less
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: longer episodes. I just I like the consistency of Okay,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I know it's going to be an hour long, so
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to sit down with this hour and watch it.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: I don't so much like the oh wait a second,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: this one's an hour and forty five minutes, but the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: last one I watched was like an hour and fifteen,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Like I don't like that.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: True.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened a lot with the last season of
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Stranger things, So the episodes felt like too long. Some
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: of them felt like complete movies, and you never knew
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: what you were sitting in for when you watched the episode,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: because you could have been like for a forty five
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: minute episode or for an hour and thirty. Yeah, and
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I also agree with Amy, like I'd rather have eight
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: episodes one hour each forty five minutes fifty minutes, which
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: is kind of like the typical duration for those one
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: hour episodes, and just have eight of them consistently being released.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I mean I think if like our
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: first season's only going to be six episodes, I feel
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: like a lot would be crammed into that first episode.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: Like I could see the first episode ending with them
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: like on the boats going up to Hogwarts or something.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: But that seems like to get to that point from
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: getting like I don't know, I mean, there's I don't know,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: it just seems like a lot. I don't know. We'll see,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: We'll see again. This is all just rumored and they
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: removed the report, so who knows, But I could also
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: see this being true as well.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: We we also have to sorry, but I was gonna say,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: we also have to take into account that the first
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: two movies were almost you know, were to wear adaptations
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: of the books, and they were two hour two and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: a half hour let's say extended version of Chamber of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Secrets is Closed or to three hours. I think they
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: just didn't include the birth nearly headless Nick's birthday, and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: the Valentine chapter. So it's like most of it was
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: included in these films. So even if there were, even
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: if they were four hour seasons both one and two
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: or three or five hour seasons, I think they would
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: still be able to tell the whole story, yeah, without
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: any sort of like without having to add you know,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: for the sake of adding things that might taint the story.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: So yeah, And I could see the episode count or
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: the length of the episodes increasing in the later seasons
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, I.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Could see them starting out with like six episodes for
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: one and two, and then maybe it goes to like
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: eight episodes three and like so on.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I don't think it's ever going to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: go as far as fifteen episodes, Like I honestly don't
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: think that's not what HBO does, like they usually do
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: like eight nine.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: If they needed more time, I could see them like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: being like here's a couple episodes each season that are
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: like two hours.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that is what they do. I mean
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: that like that with that, like a lot of their shows,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: like they'll make the episodes that need to be longer
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: are seeh I agree that. I think that that's what
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: we'll see too. Yeah. And the last thing that kind
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: of came out of this report was they indicated that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: we have had someone cast as Baltimore, but the HBO
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: is planning to not disclose the casting and instead opting
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: to surprise you know, us when we finally see the
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: show air in twenty twenty seven. There's still a lot
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: of rumors going around about who it is. And I'm
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: really curious if this is true. Like I believe it
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: is true. I'm sure they have casted, but if they're
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: planning to keep it secret, like I'm very curious, like
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: if that will be able to remain in this day
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: and age. It's a big secret to keep. But yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, how do we feel about this, Like we like,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: do you want to be excited? Do you want to
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: know who it is ahead of time?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: If they can pull off a surprise like this, I
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: would like that. I think it'd be kind of cool
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: to have that surprise moment of, you know, the first
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: time we really truly see Valdemore. Like I could see
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: them maybe filming the first couple seasons with the flashbacks
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: in a way that we don't really see him, and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: then like have that big reveal moment of like when
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: he gets his body back. That would be kind of cool,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Like I would be down for that.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Do you think, like like you would want them to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: not like show him on the back of like Quarrel's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: head and just kind of be like a whispery kind.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Of Yeah, Like I think if they're gonna go the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: surprise route, that's the way to do it. Like, I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: don't think it would be as much of a shock
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: value surprise if we saw who it was, like say
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: in the flashbacks of him committing the murders in Drick's
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Hollow on the back.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: I could do it like the film they just you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: just see him in the cape, like the Cape. Yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: So if they what they would do with Quarrel's head.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: But yeah, if they are going to surprise, I think
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: that that would be the way to go, and to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: save that surprise and let him build up and build
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: up and build up until Goblet a fire. Otherwise, if
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: they're not doing the surprise, then yes, I want to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: see Baltimore in season one, But yeah, I think would.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: You want to see him before? Would you want to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: see a cast photo now or know who is? I
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: don't know if I care so much who is casted, Like,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not super big on that. I'm just like really
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: curious what he's going to look like.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: You know, I guess I wouldn't really care that much
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: to see a cast photo, Like I think it'd be
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: an interesting way to do it, to like not release that,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: but I don't think, Like I said, I just don't
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: think it would carry as much shock value if we
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: already get that payoff when those season one episodes drop.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: I agree. I think it would be cool to like,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, because they could easily share with us who's casted,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: like so like if it is Matt Smith, like he's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: one of the people that's being you know, rumored out there,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: like they could easily do just that basic cast photo
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: of him and say, hey, we've cast Matt Smith is
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: our Baltimore, but we don't actually see what he looks
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: like as Baltimore until like he actually is revealed in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: the show as Baltimore in technically Goblin and Fire, when
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: he fully gets his body back and we fully see him.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: They could play it off too that, like you know,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: when he's in the back, when he's you know, in Quarrel,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: he still doesn't really look like himself, like kind of
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: kind of how I feel like you could say the movies,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: like if you wanted to play it off in the movies,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: why he looks different in the movie, you know, in
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: between the movies. Yeah, but yeah, I I think that'd
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: be really cool that the first time we see him
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: in costume is when we're in that graveyard and he
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: gets his body back and he's revealed.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it would even be cool to
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: not get cast like the name or anything until that moment.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: But I just don't know how you would pull that off,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Like you said, in This day and Age likes.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: And we're talking like five or six years from now,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: so it's it's a long time for it not to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: be leaked somehow.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: Especially because the names that are kind of being flooded
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: out there are like some pretty big names, like you know,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: like I know, like I mentioned Matt Smith's names being
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: thrown out there. Gosh, names are wow, names are hard
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Cillian Murphy, Caylian Murphy.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you like that. I mean has been He's
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: been kind of rumored, you know, from from the beginning
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: and is still kind of being very rumored there. And yeah,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know, people find things out so easily these days.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how they do it. But yeah,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see internet, right, But again, this whole
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: report has gone, so if you try to find it
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: it has been, you get an error on their website
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: from where it was, so who knows what that means. Yeah,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: that is our main discussion for this episode, where we
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: wanted to just yeah, catch up on all of the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: new TV stuff that has dropped since we last aired
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: specialis Orvilio and for this week's rotating segment, you know,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: in the spirit of getting our first look at TV Hagrid,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: we wanted to do a specialis Ravellio where we kind
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: of reveal the hit movie magic behind how they made
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Hagrid look so big in the films because you know,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: as we just mentioned, it seems like they're doing something
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: very similarly with potentially with TV Hagrid. So in the films,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Hagrid stands around eight feet tall, which is still shorter
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: than like Hagrid is in the books. But like, you know,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: you gotta do what you gotta do for like filming.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: And as I mentioned earlier, this was done using practical effects,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: not CGI, which has really played a role in the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: timelessness of the movies. And how timeless Harry Harry looks.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nope, Hagrid dond Arid Harry is not a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: half giant. But yeah, how timeless that Hagrid looks, because
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: just compare him right with like Grop which was done
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: with CGI, and it looks that movie magic that maybe
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: hasn't held up so much. So they used a lot
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: of you know what's called forced perspective, set design and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: camera work to help Hagrid appear so large over other
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: characters in the series. So, for example, the production design
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: team created two versions of Hagrid's hut, so one which
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: was bigger so that regular sized characters would look small,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: and another one that was smaller so that Robbie Coltrane
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: would look bigger. The cinematography team used, as I mentioned,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: force perspective, which we see a lot. We see a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: lot of force perspective used in like the theme parks
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: as well, and this has to do with where you're
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: positioning people and you know, so if you position Hagrid
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: closer to the camera, you can make him look bigger
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: than he actually is. And then our visual effects team
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: also often superimposed Robbie Coltrane's body into scenes through the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: use of a green screen to make Hagrid look larger
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: than characters that were next to him. So this is
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: kind of, I think, another a little bit of a
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: take on that force perspective, but just using a little
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: bit of technology. And then also Robbie Coltran did have
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: a body double, so as we were kind of talking
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: about looking like this is a body double for Nick
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: Frost and Robbie's body double was a six foot ten
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: former rugby player named Martin Bayfield, and Bayfield was brought
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: onto the films as as the Hagrid body double starting
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: with Chamber of Secrets, and they used heels, like you know,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: adding extra height in the boots, layers of like a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: fat suit to kind of just make him look larger
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: than he a human wood and also an animatronic of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Hagrid's head. And this is where you know, like what
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: you were mentioning Tom that we might be seeing here
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: with Nick where there's use of a mask or because
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: the face does look in that video does look a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: little unrealistic in that moment. It's got a bit of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: an uncanny valley to it. But yeah, they built an
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: animatronic of Hagrid's head that was modeled after Robbie Coltrane's face,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: and Bayfield was able to stand in as Hagrid wearing
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: this animatronic head, and they used this for like far
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: away shots and full body shots where you wouldn't be seeing,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: you know, that animatronic right up close, and so you
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: really can't even tell that it's the animatronic head when
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: it's so far you know away, And also when we
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: see Hagrid only from the back as well, it's obviously
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: you can use this this as well. So it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of a little bit of a snippet. And how they
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  Speaker 3: were able to make Hagrid just look so large in
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  Speaker 3: the films without the use of CGI.
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  Speaker 2: Really interesting. We need to dive deeper into these, like
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  Speaker 2: movie magic behind the scenes, because they're really really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many little tricks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you and when when you read about it,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, of course it's this, But I would have
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  Speaker 2: never thought, you know, I would have never come up
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  Speaker 2: with that solution.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think, you know, when you don't want to
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  Speaker 3: use CGI like you have to, you do have to
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  Speaker 3: get creative. And I think it's a really good testament
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  Speaker 3: to the people that worked on these films as well,
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  Speaker 3: and just their level of expertise and createvity and how
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  Speaker 3: they were able to do it, because yeah, like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 3: like we like Hagrid and the way he looks, and
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  Speaker 3: the films holds up all these years. There isn't any
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  Speaker 3: even if they did have to use like a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of cinematography in certain places, you really can't tell.
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  Speaker 3: You really don't see it. And so I'm glad that
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  Speaker 3: it looks like they're taking that same route with the
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  Speaker 3: TV show instead of like being like, well, we have
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  Speaker 3: all this new technology, let's just use it to make
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: him a giant. It doesn't hold up over time, sonoyous.
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  Speaker 2: So on our last episode, we asked you if you
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  Speaker 2: felt that Hagrid was a misunderstood character. If he did,
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  Speaker 2: why or why not. So we had a couple of responses,
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  Speaker 2: we got one from Jerry, She said. I have loved
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Hagrid from the time he first appeared in book one
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: holding baby Harry, writing on what we learn is Serious
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  Speaker 2: Black's motorcycle, and from chapter one there are times when
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  Speaker 2: he is misunderstood. Professor McGonagall in general a wise and compassionate,
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  Speaker 2: but strict, an altogether wonderful person, the first Harry Potter,
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  Speaker 2: she says, the first Harry Potter character I cosplayed, dressing
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  Speaker 2: as a youngish Professor McGonagall to attend the first local
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: showing of the first two movies. That's really nice, But
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  Speaker 2: even she underrates Hagrid. When she learns that Hagrid is
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: bringing Harry to Dumbledore and the Dursley's, she says, do
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  Speaker 2: you think it wise to trust Hagrid was something as
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: important as this? And I know of many folks in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: the fandom, including some host of significant Harry Potter podcasts,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: who just like Hagrid, and your discussion did a great
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: job of showing his difficult life path and provided reasons
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  Speaker 2: for his weaknesses. And yes, he has weaknesses. While he
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: is very knowledgeable and caring about magical creatures, he isn't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: a very good teacher, but I don't think that is.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't find that surprising, giving his educational gaps
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  Speaker 2: and of any teacher training. And she also adds which
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other teachers at Hogwarts aren't very good
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  Speaker 2: at teaching either, or at least only good at teaching
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  Speaker 2: certain members of the student body, like Snate. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then she carries on saying, if I had to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: list one thing that Hagrid did in the books that
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: I dislike the most, it would be giving Dudley the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: pigstale when it was mister Dursley who was insulting Dumbledore.
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  Speaker 2: The first time I read it, I found it funny,
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  Speaker 2: as I believe readers were supposed to, since Dudley had
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: a long record of bowling Harry. But at that moment,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Dudley wasn't doing anything wrong except to snitch on snitch
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: some birthday cake when he was very hungry, a very
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: boyish thing to do. And after all, Dudley was also
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: only eleven years old, and many of his faults can
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: be traced to the way he was raised. If the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: tale had been put onto Vernon, it would have been
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: more appropriated that moment interesting. Yeah, I also find it
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: a little mean on we have of Hagrid to make
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: that pigtail grow on Dudley because he was just yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: So lastly, she says, so I love Hagrid for his
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: loyalty to friends, be they creature or human or anywhere
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: else along the spectrum, and his big cart that is
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: full of love for Harry and so many others, and
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: for so much more, and because he adds lots of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: color and humor to the stories. And she also says
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: that I feel that those who don't like him are
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: misunderstanding him and the intent of the author, which I
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: completely agree, also agree. And last we have a message
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: from Carolyn. She says, I definitely feel he is a
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  Speaker 2: bit misunderstood. I think he is ready to be read
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  Speaker 2: as uneducated because he was expelled from school. Yes, there
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: are many kinds of intelligence, and we see how smart
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: he really is when he's teaching Harry his first class.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: To Harry in book three, he tells them everything they
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: need to know about hippogriffs and how to be safe
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: with these creatures. Malfoy doesn't listen and as a result
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: gets hurt. I feel some of the characters talk about
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: him as if he was somewhat childlike, but he really
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: is an exceptional talent in his field. And while he
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: makes many mistakes as a teacher, screwts anyone, you could
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: chalk that up to him being a new teacher learning
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: a new profession, which again I agree with.
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  Speaker 3: And they both kind of touched on that fact that
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, and I think we
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: mentioned in the episode, like he never even finished his schooling,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: so like you know, and you think all that he's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: learned about these creatures is self taught, And exactly like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: you said, Carolyn, like that's a sign of intelligence right there,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: that you are able to self teach yourself of that.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: And you can be an expert in your field and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: still not really know how to teach it.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: I think vice versa, vice versa. You can pretend to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: be an expert and teach something, yes, that you really
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: don't know a lot about.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmmm hm definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So thank you guy.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: Much for here. Yeah.
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• 1:21:35
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• 1:21:36
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• 1:21:39
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