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Ice-T on Cop Killer BACKLASH, New Jack City, 28 years on Law & Order SVU & Criminal Migraine · The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda

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  Speaker 1: Because I remember you said, I give you one chance,
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  Speaker 1: you get banned from the mansion. So me and Murda
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  Speaker 1: come to the crib.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all welcome.
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  Speaker 1: And he's looking at Coco too long.
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  Speaker 2: He's cool.
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  Speaker 1: He's banned from the crib?
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  Speaker 2: No, he has his priorities straight. I know he's just
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  Speaker 2: admiring the art. Ice is a player. I've been around before.
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  Speaker 2: I've been around Coco before in Ice's crib. Ice is
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  Speaker 2: a player, man. Ice is cool though, man. He's admiring
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  Speaker 2: the art. That's it. He didn't get stabbed.
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  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 2: I got what you wish you had. Bankroll crazy and...
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  Speaker 2: It's bad. I like this beat too, bro.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Talking that still ice, man. I see no competition. I
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  Speaker 2: see no competition. I see no competition. I see no competition.
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  Speaker 2: I see no competition.
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  Speaker 1: I see no competition.
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  Speaker 2: Bentley Continental or Black 6-4. I keep a crew of YNs,
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  Speaker 2: they all ready to go. I give a f * * *
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  Speaker 2: about what you think. I'm that n * * *
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  Speaker 2: a up in court in the full eight mint. You'll
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  Speaker 2: never find a n * * * a on the
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  Speaker 2: earth this cool. I'm kicking back, throwing balls to my
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  Speaker 2: dog in the pool. No drama, no beef at all.
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  Speaker 2: Got issues, that's a block they call. You might out-rap me,
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  Speaker 2: but that's just rap. You say you out-ball me, that's
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  Speaker 2: just cap, nigga. Let's go. Cop killing the building. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: It's a terrible part.
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  Speaker 2: Give me new vibes, Rick. The album is out now.
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  Speaker 2: OG still got balls. No competition.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't see none.
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  Speaker 2: I see no competition. Oh! Murder, let me break it
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  Speaker 2: down right here. Let's go, Ice. I hear you, Ice.
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  Speaker 2: I'ma keep it real. If I thought these niggas out
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  Speaker 2: here was really that dope, I'd shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see no competition.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I see no competition. Let's finish it up.
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  Speaker 2: I see no competition. I'm all the way up. You
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  Speaker 2: should see my view. You never reach my level. I
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  Speaker 2: can do what I do. Last time, one of the
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  Speaker 2: chosen few. If I was you, I would hate me too.
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  Speaker 2: Magnificent rhyme. I'm the hillbilly designer. If they ask you
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  Speaker 2: if I'm dope, don't front and say Tanya.
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  Speaker 1: These niggas so goddamn wack.
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  Speaker 2: I went back to 87, brought that bar back. Most
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  Speaker 2: of you niggas ain't been off your block I'm on
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  Speaker 2: my fifth passport, nigga, rappin' rock Live on the East,
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  Speaker 2: represent the West Mic fly past you, GT3RS Social media,
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  Speaker 2: wanna be me Only time you ever went viral, nigga,
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  Speaker 2: was in STD You wanna age niggas out in hip-hop
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  Speaker 2: Most you bitch niggas so garbage, why the fuck should
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  Speaker 2: I stop? Criminal background. Out there. Yes, sir. Only at ICT.com.
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  Speaker 2: No screaming. He said, fuck.
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  Speaker 1: The streams.
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  Speaker 2: He keeping all the money to himself. I'm so happy
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  Speaker 2: to be here with y'all, man. Come on, man. We
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  Speaker 2: happy to have you here, my brother. That's wise.
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  Speaker 1: Come on. We know the legends have the best stories.
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  Speaker 1: I love all the young rappers out there, but when
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  Speaker 1: we interview the legends, it's good for me. For me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to one of our favorite movies,
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  Speaker 1: me and 50.
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  Speaker 2: Hold up, there's something I got to do right quick.
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  Speaker 2: Let's make some noise for Ice-T in the motherfucking building. Yeah!
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  Speaker 2: That go back probably, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So like, you know, a lot of people don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like after 50 Got Shot, we in the crib and shit.
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  Speaker 1: And yo, you know, all the West Coast movies, we watch.
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  Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood, you know, Menace to Society. But
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  Speaker 1: one of the original shits where I like really loved
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  Speaker 1: you for was Colors.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, hearing you on that, even though you wasn't in
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  Speaker 1: the movie, Colors is like a movie that I watched
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  Speaker 1: like a Scarface.
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  Speaker 2: The crazy story about Colors. You want stories like that.
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  Speaker 2: And that shit came on TV a lot, like back
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  Speaker 2: in our days. It came on TV a lot. Colors?
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  Speaker 2: Did it? Hell yeah. Colors used to play on TV
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  Speaker 2: a lot. Yes. So what happened with Colors was, I
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  Speaker 2: was on Warner Brothers and it was a Warner Brothers soundtrack.
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  Speaker 2: And so they wanted to use a song I had
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  Speaker 2: called Squeeze the Trigger off Ron Pace. And I knew
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  Speaker 2: that in order for them to use my record, I
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  Speaker 2: could ask to see the movie. If anybody ever wants
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  Speaker 2: to use your music, you could say, I need to
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  Speaker 2: see the movie on some bullshit. You're going to let
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  Speaker 2: them use it, but you get, I need to see
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  Speaker 2: the movie. That's crazy. Look at that. So I went
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  Speaker 2: in there and I saw the movie and I said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: the movie wasn't really official to me because they had
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  Speaker 2: the Crips fighting the Mexicans, which has never happened in LA.
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  Speaker 2: If a black gang and the Mexicans went to war,
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  Speaker 2: LA would be annihilated. That's never happened. But I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is a movie. So I asked them, I said,
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  Speaker 2: do you guys have a title song? They said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Rick James did it. So I listened to the record.
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  Speaker 2: It was called Everywhere I Go. I said, nah, this
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  Speaker 2: is not official. So me and Africa Islam, the producer
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  Speaker 2: of that last track, we went in the studio that night.
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  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Oh, he did Colors?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and we made colors. That was my first producer
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  Speaker 2: who produced my first three albums, and me and him
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  Speaker 2: were tuned in, and I was like, okay, cool. So
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  Speaker 2: we went in, we laid that song, I turned it
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  Speaker 2: into them, and they went crazy. Now, I've never been
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  Speaker 2: a gang member. I'm not a gang member, but I
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  Speaker 2: grew up and enrolled in 60 Hood. I went to
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  Speaker 2: Crenshaw High School, so I'm totally involved in gangs. theory
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  Speaker 2: and how gangs operate without actually being a member. How
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  Speaker 2: did you dodge that? It's easy. You just don't join up. See,
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  Speaker 2: I'm from New Jersey. I was born in Newark, New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: Shout to Jersey. My mother died when I was in
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  Speaker 2: the third grade. My father died when I was in
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  Speaker 2: the seventh grade, so I was orphaned and I was
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  Speaker 2: sent to LA when I was in the seventh grade.
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  Speaker 2: I was bused to a white junior high school called
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  Speaker 2: Palms because they were integrating the people from the hood
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  Speaker 2: with other people. So they moved us, me and Gompers,
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  Speaker 2: and we went over there. That was cool. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they treat us like the Jackson Five over
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  Speaker 2: there at that school. You know what I'm saying? The
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  Speaker 2: white girls, everything was cool. But I wanted to go
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  Speaker 2: to Crenshaw High, which was in walking distance from my house.
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  Speaker 2: And when I got to Crenshaw, the gangs were there.
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  Speaker 2: But see, the thing of it is, Murda, you're not
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  Speaker 2: in a gang, you're from a gang. So by me,
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  Speaker 2: I was living in an area called View Park, which
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a gang turf. So there's Rollin' 60s, A-Trade Gangsters,
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  Speaker 2: Harlem Crips, which is the 30s, Hoover Crips, 7-4 Hoover Crips.
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  Speaker 2: So all these different sets were there. But because I'm
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  Speaker 2: not from one of the neighborhoods, it's not like I
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  Speaker 2: could be part of the gang. I could ask to
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  Speaker 2: get put on, but why? So I figured it out early.
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  Speaker 2: By being in any gang, you become enemy with the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the city. Yeah. So I just learned how
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  Speaker 2: to meet the shot callers. I just learned. I always
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  Speaker 2: had to gift the gab. I've always been fly. So
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  Speaker 2: I meet the shot callers. And once you're good with
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  Speaker 2: the shot callers, you good. You good. So I just
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  Speaker 2: knew the head shot callers from 60s Hoover. My baby
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  Speaker 2: mom's is from 74 Hoover. And I just was able
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  Speaker 2: to move around. And later on in high school, I
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  Speaker 2: became a player. Like the players kind of separated from
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  Speaker 2: the gang members and the players dressed different. We wore
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  Speaker 2: perms and had fee-less sweatsuits and all that. Once you
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  Speaker 2: become a hustler, you're not a gang. Gangs weren't about
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  Speaker 2: money at the time. They was banging. So I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be a player over there. And you
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  Speaker 2: kind of get diplomatic immunity because the gang member is
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  Speaker 2: looking for the enemy. They're looking for somebody else who's banging.
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  Speaker 2: Soon as you say, hey man, I ain't banging, man.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? That's not what I do.
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  Speaker 2: You might be able to get a pass, but I
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  Speaker 2: tell people I survived Los Angeles. You said you might,
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  Speaker 2: because not everybody that was doing that shit got a pass.
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  Speaker 2: You can get checked.
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  Speaker 1: He told you you got the gift of gab.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man. You can get checked. I used to
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  Speaker 2: always have the gift of gab. I mean, say you're
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  Speaker 2: wearing red in a crib hood or whatever, which doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter anymore. And you say, yo, I'm not a gangbanger.
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  Speaker 2: They might come up out that red because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they might bang on you, but they're not necessarily going
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  Speaker 2: to do nothing to you because they're looking for the enemy.
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  Speaker 2: They're looking for you to go fuck that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you say G-Unit and I go fuck G-Unit. We got beef.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's what they're looking for. So I just
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  Speaker 2: learned how to just stay away. Like I say, I
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  Speaker 2: navigated L.A. You have to know where to go and
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  Speaker 2: who to, and this and that. You know, people talk
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  Speaker 2: about checking in. You check in from hood to hood
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  Speaker 2: out there. You don't, you know, people, oh, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to LA, nigga. If I'm going to this neighborhood and
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  Speaker 2: I'm checking in with niggas over there, like I'm coming.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta learn how to move around. So I survived it,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like when he dropped colors, he was solidified
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  Speaker 1: on the West Coast with the Bloods and the Crips.
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  Speaker 1: Or any gang member.
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  Speaker 2: To an extent.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why you say that?
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  Speaker 2: Because when you're dealing with a gang, right? Like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so say I'm with the Uncle Murder's crew. He got
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  Speaker 2: 10 cats and he's a shot caller. Two of them
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  Speaker 2: cats don't give a fuck about me and they mad
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  Speaker 2: because the big homie likes me. Like, why murder on
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  Speaker 2: ISIS dick? You know, like I didn't earn to be
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  Speaker 2: in that neighborhood. So there's two of them out of
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  Speaker 2: all the eight that really ain't really with it. And
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  Speaker 2: they and if when you leave them niggas can try
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  Speaker 2: to get off on you so you got to understand
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  Speaker 2: I could come to your neighborhood I could come to
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  Speaker 2: Brooklyn and you say yo I got this lock I
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  Speaker 2: always know There's a small percentage of them cats that
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  Speaker 2: ain't really giving me that pass. Only because I'm right
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  Speaker 2: with you. And this is called just knowing how to move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, motherfucker always say, you good in my hood, you
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  Speaker 1: good in my hood. And then you won't be good
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  Speaker 1: in your hood.
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  Speaker 2: You won't be good if the main cat happens to blink. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then the niggas will rob me and be like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't rob you. So I just know how niggas operate.
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  Speaker 2: And so I just stay on, you know, I keep
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  Speaker 2: it moving. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Because we never knew if he was a blood or crib.
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  Speaker 1: I just know he had colors. And colors is like
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  Speaker 1: the biggest, to me, is the biggest gang banging movie
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  Speaker 1: in history. I watched that a million times like a Scarface.
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  Speaker 2: But one thing I did, I intensely did photos in red.
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  Speaker 2: And I intensely did photos in blue. But dig this, me, Cube,
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  Speaker 2: and all of us, we used to wear a lot
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  Speaker 2: of black. Right, like to try to be neutral. So
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: then I went to my homie Tony Bogart's funeral and
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  Speaker 2: I met the head of Santana Block, which was a
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  Speaker 2: guy named Raider, who was like, all right, you reppin' me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh shit, there's a gang that wears black
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  Speaker 2: from Compton based off Santana Block. I'm like, so now
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to duck Blue or Red and I'm still
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  Speaker 2: in the gang.
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  Speaker 1: Look at that, that's some funny shit, look at that.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy, because what was gang life in the, I
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  Speaker 1: could just imagine.
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  Speaker 2: You got the black on today, look, you still reppin',
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  Speaker 2: you still reppin' it. Santana. Santana Block Compton.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, because I can imagine how gangbanging, because watching Colors, like,
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  Speaker 1: in New York, it was mainly hustlers, right? So, in
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  Speaker 1: the 80s as kids, we looked up to hustlers. But
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  Speaker 1: out there, like, when you came, Eazy-E... Ice Cube, y'all
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  Speaker 1: marketed the whole West Coast. Know what I'm saying? Where
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  Speaker 1: New York niggas was tapping in with y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Right. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't Spice One, certain Jews, certain dudes in the Bay,
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  Speaker 1: and E-40. It was just- Rob Markman, Jr.: The two shorts.
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  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: The two shorts. Rob Markman, Jr.: Oakland.
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  Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But California, Gangsta Rap, it felt like you was the
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  Speaker 1: first one with it, because Colors came out what? 1980 what? Five?
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  Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the first one to really come to
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  Speaker 2: New York and really put my feet down out here.
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  Speaker 2: I had two albums out before NWA came out. Those
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  Speaker 2: were the homies. They toured with me, D.O.C., Dre, all
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  Speaker 2: of them are my guys. So it was a movement.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the real gang stuff really exploded with
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  Speaker 2: Death Row when Death Row really went out because they
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  Speaker 2: put a lot of that in the game and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. You know, it is what it is. I
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  Speaker 2: always tell people gangster rap is not necessarily gang banging rap.
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  Speaker 2: To me, gangster rap was whether you a hustler, a pimp,
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  Speaker 2: a drug dealer, if you handle your business and don't
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  Speaker 2: use the police, that's gangster, right? But then like Snoop
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  Speaker 2: and them kind of like embodied gangster gang banging rap.
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  Speaker 2: And that kind of came up with it. Mack 10
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  Speaker 2: and all them, they were gang banging. But you don't
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  Speaker 2: hear me. I rap about the gangs, but you never
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  Speaker 2: heard me claim a gang. You know? But with that
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  Speaker 2: gangster shit, you got to walk lightly. My niggas in
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  Speaker 2: prison was like, Ice, don't send nobody to jail. So
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  Speaker 2: I always wanted to be cautious about how I dealt
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  Speaker 2: with it and also not incriminate nobody. So like I said,
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  Speaker 2: all my career, you never heard about me in any trouble,
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  Speaker 2: no beef, no nothing. The closest thing I ever had
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  Speaker 2: is when I challenged LL Cool J back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: But that was some rap shit. That was some rap shit.
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  Speaker 2: That was bad.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy when you think about all the politics
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  Speaker 1: and what you was rapping about was nothing but gangster
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  Speaker 1: shit and you was moving smart and militant. And it's
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: like every move you made in your career was a
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  Speaker 1: great one. So we go from Colors to New Jack City.
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  Speaker 1: Now we in the East Coast. Now the East Coast
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  Speaker 1: is like, oh shit, Ice-T's in fucking.
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  Speaker 2: New Jack City. So New Jack City, how that happened,
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  Speaker 2: they were going to do the movie, but they needed
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  Speaker 2: somebody who could play the player and the cop at
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: the same time. So like at that time it was
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: me and Public Enemy were like the hot, you know,
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  Speaker 2: radical rap groups. But you had Cop Killer was before this, correct? No,
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  Speaker 2: Cop Killer was after that. Oh, Cop Killer was after that?
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  Speaker 1: That was after.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Cop Killer. Cop Killer came after that. So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, okay, so Pac was not really up yet
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: as far as acting, you know, it wasn't, his reign
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  Speaker 2: came with Juice. You know, that's when that happened. So
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  Speaker 2: I was like the guy, like, okay, we'll see if
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  Speaker 2: we want Ice-T. So I was in a club, And
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I was talking to some bitches. I was there campaigning,
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: doing my thing. And what really happened was I was
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: in the bathroom and some nigga was talking shit to me.
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  Speaker 2: I was taking a shit. Nigga was like, yeah, nigga,
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  Speaker 2: I used to do this, that. I said, look, cuz,
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  Speaker 2: I say, if there was... a molecule in my body
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  Speaker 2: that gave a fuck. They could angle me, but they
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: can't angle me. And Mario Van Peebles was in there.
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  Speaker 2: He said, whoever said that needs to be in my movie.
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  Speaker 2: Dig it. I'm from the toilet.
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  Speaker 1: You was taking a shit in the bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the stall talking shit to some nigga on
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  Speaker 2: the outside.
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  Speaker 1: He knew you was taking a shit.
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  Speaker 2: Having a conversation with a nigga. In a club? In
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  Speaker 2: a nightclub. Oh, man. He saw me go in there.
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  Speaker 2: The nigga didn't even want to quit talking to me. Yeah,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I spotted a guy. Listen, this is a true story. So...
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  Speaker 2: I come out of the spot and Mario Van Peep,
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  Speaker 2: now I'm talking to some females, and Mario Van Peep
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  Speaker 2: walks up to me and says, I would like you
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to be in a movie. So I'm like, this is
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: that Hollywood shit. You know, you want to talk to
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: these girls, so you coming in on the producer shit.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, okay, Mario, blah, blah. These are the females, blah.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: He gave me his card, right? Because, you know, when
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: we go out to niggas talk shit, niggas talk shit
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: every day. Yo, my CEO, we got a link. We
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: got to make it happen. Right, that's that post. Never, never, never, never.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Every time you go out, everybody got a plan for you.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: For sure, for sure.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, whatever. So he gave me the card.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: So I called the card and it was real. It
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: was Warner Brothers. So he's like, come to read. So
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: I went down there to read. I looked at the script.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, it's all the lines. I'm never acted before.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Then I read more and he goes, I'm the police.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I had an album coming out called Original Gangster. Then
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, I got dreads? I got a perm.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I was more offended about the dreadlocks. I was like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: my shit is whipped. You know, my shit was more
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: wavy than the ships in the Navy. You dig what
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? So I'm like, you want me to dread
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: my hair, so then you want me to be a
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: cop and dread my shit?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: But you said you was in the bathroom taking a shit.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: He went with that. He still wanted to go back
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: to that part.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: No, because you didn't finish that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I was in the bathroom taking a shit.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: What did you tell a dude?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I told a dude, he was talking about they trying
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: to get you ice and they can't. and they can't
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: fuck with you and I said yeah I said because
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: if they could find one molecule in my body they
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: gave a fuck then they could angle me but because
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I don't they can't find nothing to bother me with
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: so just that comment made Mario think this is a
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: bad man whoever that nigga is that said that and
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: so that's how that happened so now I go to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: do the reading and they want me to do this
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: and I had to sit on it I was like
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I'm doing original, can I make a movie? So I
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: talk it to my homies. They was like, nigga, can
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I be in the movie? Right? I was like, they
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: want me to play police. Street niggas. Word? Can I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: be in? No one ever said no. I talk about
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it like, yo, nah, nigga, not the police. I'm talking
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: to homies in jail. I'm like, yo, you stuck. They
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: want me to be the police. If I was out,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: could I be in the movie?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Then I'm talking to- Rob Markman He talking to lifers
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: on the phone.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Yeah, what about me? Nobody. And then like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I used to get my hair done. The girl was
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: there named Pearl. I'll never forget. She said, nigga, if
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you do not do this movie, you know how many
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: niggas out here waiting on opportunities? She's like, if you
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: don't do it, you a real life sucker. You cannot
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: shit on this. And so then I had to really
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: take it in, right? Right.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: If it becomes legal, the coke's worthless, right? So they
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: need to exist. So they're not the enemy, they're the opponent, right?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Real gangster shit, right? So I'm like, I don't really
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: hate the motherfucking cops. I'm like, I don't like bullies
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and I don't like racists, but I was like, fuck it,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the movie. You know what I'm saying?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: And I did the movie, and New York loved it,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and the world loved it. And the album, Original Gangster,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: even though, went platinum. And I ain't looked back since.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And at that point, I realized, cats will accept you acting.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And my homies was like, niggas know you ain't the
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: motherfucking police, nigga. Niggas ain't trippin' like that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman How was it on set? Because I always
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: want to ask you that. Because you got Nino Brown.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes, you got G Money in there. Rob Markman,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Did you know Wesley was going to be in it?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman, In my classic movies, because to me, there's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a realm of classic movies. So for me, it's like, Colors,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: it felt like you was in it because- Rob Markman,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Of the song. Rob Markman, Because of the fucking song.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: The theme song, Colors. You know what I mean? That's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: some shit stay in your head forever. That song was,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I am a nightmare.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, That's my final song on my show. That's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: my song. Rob Markman, Look at that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: A hit, right? So I felt like he was a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: part of the movie even though he wasn't in it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And then he went to the East Coast and now
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you got the drug dealership. New Jack City is like a...
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a classic, bro.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Classic East Coast movie.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I'm watching it as much as I watch Scarface. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you, how was it on the set?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you like this. They were concerned when
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: they booked me for it. They were not so concerned
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: with me playing a police. They wanted it to be
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: believable when I went undercover next to Nino. They wanted
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: me to have that conversation. Because you could teach a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: player how to act square, but you can't teach a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: square how to act like a player. So when I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: had to go undercover, they wanted it to be like,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Ice is more fly than Nino. When I say, yeah,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I got your back, all that old shit, that's what
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they was concerned with. Nino wouldn't believe this cop guy was... No,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: but I... Now, on the set, I was terrified, Tony.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I was terrified because I'm not an actor. I had
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: never acted. And me and Chris Rock were together, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: we were just nervous as hell. And we had an
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: acting coach that showed up one day for like a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: half hour, and she just told us straight up. She said, look,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: don't be nervous. All the actors are going to mess up.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: You're here. The hardest part about acting is getting the job.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: If you guys really want to do it, you're going
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to pull it off. And honestly, you and Chris are
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: bigger stars than anybody on the movie. The reason they
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: got it financed was because you guys, you know, Wesley
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: had done, you know, a major league, you know, there
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: was no other big stars. So like you guys are
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: selling millions of records. I, she sold me that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: This, Oh, so that gave you the confidence.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You got juice. You're not here by mistake. Right. Right.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: So they gave me the confidence. And then, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: working with Judd Nelson and Wesley was wonderful. He was cool.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And you just had to be prepared. And you know
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: what it is, you have to want to do it. Right.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You know, if you don't want to act, you ain't
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: going to be able to do it. But if you
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: really want to do it like anything else, you're going
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: to be able to do it. You're just going to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: put yourself in it and say, I really want to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: pull this off. And then once you, once you, I
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: think that anyone that can be successful can be successful
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: in many things because you understand the work ethic that
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: requires to be successful. Did Wesley have a little gangsta
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: in him? Wesley's not to fuck with. You know what
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? It's funny. It's funny. I bust Wesley's ass.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: People say, you whooped Wesley? I'm like, it was in
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the script. Wesley is Blade. Wesley can get busy. Got you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: No, because the fighting scene, it was so crazy. It's like,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: for you, put it like this, Murder, what I'm surprised
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at is like, I watched New Jack City so many
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: times that we know like, every scene verbatim. So I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: know this is going to pause, but when he say,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I want.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: To kill you so bad. My dick.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Like you see, I don't say pause.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I don't say pause. It's the new thing
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: for some reason.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: We've got to erase that. The players don't say that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: That means you suspect. If you got to say that,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you suspect.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Look, with no acting classes, ice. No acting classes or nothing.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Just the reaction on your face. I know I can't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Like, yo, I'm going to kill you. Yes, you could.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Pull that off, man.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You look like you was going to pull a trigger.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Kill Nino.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And dig this. I ad-libbed that line. Like, me and
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: him was fighting all day and this, that, and the third. And,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you know, we came down the fire escape. We fight, fight, fight.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And then finally, it was that one scene. They like, okay,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: you got him. And I don't know where that line
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: came from. I never said that before. I said, I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: going to shoot you bad. My dicks are. You know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: we did it one time and they were like, are
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: we keeping that? Yeah, dig it. The producers, George Jackson
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and them, they was in the video village. It's like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: What did that nigga say? What did that nigga say?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That's in the movie. That's in the movie. What the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: fuck did he just say? And it was just like
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: one of those moments. It was just like organic. It
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: just came out. So, yeah. But you could do it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: If you want to do it, you could do it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: You could do it. And the thing of it is,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: you get in the moment of the scene and everything.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been on the set with some of
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: 50's stuff. When you're in the moment of the scene and,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know, when Nino Brown turns to you and says, yo,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I killed your mother. You... He's such a good actor,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: you believe it. And that's the thing, actors want someone
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: else that's good, because it's going to bring it out
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of you. If you're trying to act with somebody who
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: can't act, you're like, nigga, I don't believe that. You
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Man, you talking bull. Yeah, right, right.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But it was a great experience, New Jack City. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: like you said, kind of like after that, I got
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the keys to New York.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: New York people just love me. Rob Markman, Yeah, you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: got the keys to New York. And it's crazy because
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I'm expecting you to have like a Wexco, like, what
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: up cuz? Like the accent. But you sound like a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: straight New Yorker. Murder, hip hop trivia. What actor played
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: in Do the Right Thing and New Jack City?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Westy Snuggs. No.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: No, Stutter Man. Rest in peace.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Forgot his name. Look it up. You know his name.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Shit, you make me feel bad right now. No, no.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Look it up.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Look up his name. Stutterman played in.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, Stutterman.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Radio Raheem was in New Jack City. I had to
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: watch that shit.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: My brain is glitching because I'm saying somebody else's name.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Bill Nunn.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Bill Nunn.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I was about to say Bill Duke. Bill Nunn.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rest in peace to Bill Nunn. Radio Raheem.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't even really know that. I had to watch
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it like a... It took me a while to realize that. Like, yo,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: hold on. Stutter Man is fucking Radio Raheem.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you know, there's a small pool of actors.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: And one of the reasons they used me back in
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: those days was there was not a lot of black actors.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: There just wasn't. Now we can do, you know, we
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: could do Black Panther. But, you know, there wasn't that
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: many black actors. And they figured like, well, maybe Ice's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: record sales would translate into seats in the theater. And
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that's why I got the role. Not because I was
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: a great actor. It's funny though, because some people say, well,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: how'd you get into acting? I said, well, I sold
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of records. And they go, oh, you got
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: in the easy way. I'm like, I was that so easy?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Go sell a lot of records. It's not that easy,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you know? So I kind of got the bug after that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: New Jack City, I made $ 28, 000. What? Yeah, I made
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: 80 something million. I got paid scale. but I was
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: in no place to negotiate, you know what I'm saying?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of things people have to learn. How
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: do you feel like that though? You already sold millions
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: of records, so how you wasn't in no place to negotiate?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I was not in any place to negotiate. Because the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: whole movie business was new to you, you mean? I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: could have said, I don't know. And Chuck D would
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: have been in there with a dread wig. I was like, yo.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And my next movie was with Denzel Washington, which was Ricochet.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Ricochet. Yeah, I was going to go into that. Ricochet
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: was another one. That's a classic, too.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And Joe Silver was the producer. And I walked in.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I said, well, I know I'm about to get paid now.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: He said, iced tea. You been in one movie.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: For Ice, you fast forward.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: For Ice, hold on. So you ain't get paid for
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: that one either? I got paid double. I started making
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: money later on, but it took a minute.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You're fast forwarding it because, you know, I take my notes. Yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it's the Talk of New York, Tony Ayo.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And it's the Boy Uncle Murder, a.k.a. Learjet Lenny.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It's the Real Report Show. And you know what, Lenny?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: What's that, man?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: You know, I know we just came back from Paris.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And one thing that I always realize, and you always realize,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: is just the water feels different everywhere we go.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It do.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like it irritates my skin.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna front.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about, man.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And that's why I never leave home without my Baskin-Lather.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I told y'all I was going to show y'all a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: little bit of the wave.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, you got the waves going?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: All right. Make sure y'all get that close up on that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Definitely, my man.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: You know what it is, Jet Lenny?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: What's that turbulence, Tony?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put you on game to some Baskin-Lather products. Me,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the beard growth for fuller, thicker hair.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: And there's a young sister that's running the whole thing, too.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I think that's dope. I could tell she get it
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: by the way my waves is coming out, so- Shout
• 27:49
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• 28:03
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• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah! After New Jack City, you dropped Cop Killer, which
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: politicians condemned you for. Police unions hated you.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Cop, killer.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Right? Police unions hated you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: President.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: The president said something to you. You got dropped from
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: your label, I think. I don't know if that's true.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: You got dropped from your label. Did you get dropped
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: from the label?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: You was banned. Look, hold on. Break it down.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: He was banned from MTV or whatever television it was.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest comebacks ever in life. But
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: talk about that situation.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: All right, so what happened is on Original Gangster, I
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: debuted Body Count. Body Count was my heavy metal band.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do metal because I'd been on tour
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: with P.E. and I seen, you've seen overseas, they mosh
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: off hip hop. The kids would set off a mosh pit.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I would like to do a
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: rock band. My best friend, Ernie C., was a guitar player.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: So I said, we're going to create a band, right?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: We're going to make it have the speed of Slayer,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the intensity of Suicidal Tendency, and the impending doom of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Black Sabbath. but I'm going to sing my same shit
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: over it. We're going to call it body count. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: we go out, blah, blah, blah. We went on the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Lollapalooza tour. We were on the first Lollapalooza tour. And
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I had a nice little tune called Cop Killer. Cop
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: killer is better you than me. Cop killer, fuck police brutality.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: And it's about a guy who went at the cops. Now,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the way the song comes, I'm in the studio with
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: my homie, Beatmaster V, who passed. And I'm singing this
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: song by Talking Heads called Psycho. Killer. Psycho Killer. I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: singing it. He goes, we need a cop killer. Just
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: like you would have said, hey, Iceman. I'm like, why?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Cops did this and ran parts out of pocket and
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: they taken off on niggas and they killed the homie.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: So I start thinking. I said, what if somebody got
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: triggered by the police brutality and went after him like
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: a psycho went after him? So I write the song.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: We do the song for a year. Then the Fraternal
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Order of Police in Texas, the cops is out of pocket.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: They take off on me. They say, this record. And
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that was it. Warner Brothers got a hold of it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Charlton Heston got a hold of it. And they was out.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: The president.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Who was the president at the time?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Bush. Son of a Bush.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: So- I'm in the crib, let me date you. We
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: were playing Techno Bowl. Wow.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Remember Techno Bowl?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Remember that? Let's go back there. So niggas was playing that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: That's the old football game before Madden. Way before Madden.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Way before Madden. You got to be a certain age
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to remember this. And OJ was on the highway in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the Bronco on the run. This is when this happened.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And so my niggas was there. Call me, say, yo, Ice,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the president is on TV talking shit about you. So
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: we go run up and it's Quail, the VP, he's like,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: and Ice T, you ain't never seen a bunch of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: homies just go like this. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh shit,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: now very few people will know what it's like to
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: have a president, a real president, say your name in anger.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It's not a normal thing.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: It's only really cartel and certain people like that. You
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: don't really even hear rappers, not in.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: A bad way. The minute the president says Tony Yeo-
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: That was regular, but back then, definitely. Yeah, this goofball.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But now, if the president says Tony Yeo and Uncle Murder-
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: That minute, you get checked by CIA, FBI, NSA, all
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: of them. Because the next question the president could say is,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: what do you know about him? Can't be like he's
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: a rapper. They like his shoe size is this. His
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: blood type is this. This is the fact. Damn. They
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: really do a deep dive because the president needs information.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: So when they do a dive on you like that,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you feel it. You feel it. You get IRS. You get,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: you know, audited, all constituted. I used to say I
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: had ice cream trucks sitting in front of my house
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the winter. You know, it's like
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: they watching you because they're trying to see, are you
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: really a threat? Are you trying to start some type
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: of insurrection or some bullshit? I'm like, no, I just
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: made a record. But they want to check it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: You felt like you was about to get knocked off?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: You know what? I'm going to tell you like this
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: about me.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: No, you say it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel like that. But this is the problem
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: with beef. And you guys are very familiar with beef.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: The problem with beef is not the person you're beefing with.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: It's their fans. It's anyone on the outskirt. So when
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: you say cop killer, don't worry about the cops. My
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: brother's a cop. You don't like the cop. You know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: you could be out just having dinner and you run
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: into someone. My brother was a cop and he got killed.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: That kind of beat. So say, for instance, I always
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: use Methodist. If I diss Method Man, I got a problem,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: which I love Method Man. I don't have to worry
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: about it. I can run into any one of his
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: fans that really wants smoke.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: But now you got police unions, politicians, and the president. Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And you dropped off your label.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And all that. It's crazy. Now, the thing with Warner
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Brothers was, after that, I wanted to put out another
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: album called Home Invasion. and Warner Brothers. They said, brother,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: can you pick a different title? Home Invasion was more
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: about rap invading white kids' heads and them now going
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: against their parents and stuff from listening to me and P.E.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and Iceberg. That's what Home Invasion was. All my shit
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: is a not simple it's always another level so I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: like you know so I had a lyric and it
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: says I don't give a fuck about a cop or
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: a G man they all talk shit their breasts smelling
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: like semen I take them in the alley all alone
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: put them in the prone pop pop pop to the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: dome it's a G style so I kill another fed
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: right in this one so Warner Brothers had my lyrics
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: on this big board they're like ice ice ice ice
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you're bugging I'm like you're bugging I'm like So what
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I did was I said, can I go? They didn't
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: kick me off. I asked to leave. Oh, look at that.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: That's right. I said, let me go because my integrity
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: is more important. I understand y'all up against the wall,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but can I go?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So what they did was they let me go. And
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I went to priority. Now- They let you go with
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a clean release? No, no budget? I didn't have to
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: pay for that album. And I got a big budget.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: They cleared it because it wasn't, I wasn't their fault.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the problem. They were, they had made, we
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: had a gold record party for cop killer, the body count.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So they like, they was up against the wall. Now
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: at the time, Warner Brothers had me, Ghetto Boys, Sam Keniston, Slayer, Prince.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They had all the hard stuff. They knew this was
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: about to be the end of it. They knew it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: So I'll never forget, I went into this meeting at
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Warner Brothers. Nobody knows this story, but I had a
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: meeting with Mo Austin and Lenny Warnocker, the biggest bosses
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: up there. And there was a big table. And they
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: flipped a quarter onto the table. And they said, Ice,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: this is Time Warner. That quarter is the music division
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: of Time Warner. You're a speck on that quarter. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: your car's in the whole table of problem. That cold? Oh, shit.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I understood. I said, can I go? I mean, you
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: know what? Me and you been in business, murder, I'm sorry.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: No hard feelings. Let me go. And they let me go.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And I went over to Priority and I started doing
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: my other stuff. But I had problems because the Source
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: magazine at the time said I folded and it was
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: a bunch of shit that happened. But I feel the
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: people that aren't in the war shouldn't comment on the battles.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: You have no idea really what the fuck's- Rob Markman.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I could have just imagined how much stress I make
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a regular cop killer. I got the president going after me.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Police unions. I'm thinking, yo, I might get killed. I
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: got CIA looking into me. FBI, IRS. You got the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: president talking about you in the 80s. One of the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: biggest rappers in the world. Yo, yo, the president. Imagine
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: his people's calling. Yo, cuz. Yo, the president talking about
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you now. Was you excited about it? Or like scared?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Because some people- Nah, I wasn't scared. I was just,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I can quote the art of war. I read the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: art of war. Like 50 got the- Things of power.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I'm an Art of War son suit. Sometimes you must
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: retreat and return with superior firepower. So I was like, okay,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: we'll retreat. We're not going to push the line right now.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Let this thing, this'll go away. And we're just going
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: to come back and we're going to rebuild, you know?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And slowly those people who were scared of me, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: there wasn't going to be no New Jack City 2
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: because of me, everything. But I did learn something, just
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: like anybody been to prison. When the shit gets hot.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: New Jack City 2. Yeah. No, they wanted to do one,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: but it just, I was in trouble.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy you mentioned the Art of War, bro.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: It's a good book, man.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: But what I learned though, and any of you guys
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: probably know, is when the shit hits the fan, you
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: usually are by yourself. You by yourself. Now, hip hop
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: couldn't back me up because hip hop is one big nigga. Like,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: It won't help. The guy that stood behind me was
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the head of Time Warner at the time. He stood
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: on it. He wrote a big thing in the Wall
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Street Journal. But that's neither here nor there. I touched
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: an electric fence, which was fucking killing police. And that
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't fuck the police. That was kill the police. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: they was like, we got to check this nigga. what
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: caused the problem was the white kids loved it. See,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: gangster rap is not a problem as long as only
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: us listen to it. But when you infect the white kids,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: that's when it becomes a problem. That's home invasion, when
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you invade their brains. So they, you know, I just
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: pimp past that shit, man. Me, myself, man, I figure
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a way out. You know, hustlers don't complain. We figure
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: it out. And I have to always figure out the
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: pivot And I almost plan to pivot before it happens.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well, if that don't work, this will work.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And I'm always thinking like that.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Art of war.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the art of war. Before you go to war,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you must consider the expense. I got to.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Start reading that again because I know there's five laws.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I know one is know who your commander is. That's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: why I'm always loyal to my commander. Know who my
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: commander is. I think it's discipline. And I think it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: something else. Discipline, respect. I forgot the other two.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Never go against the commander unless you're ready for an
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: absolute takeover.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Know who the commander is.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: That moment you go against, you better be ready to
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: go all the way.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Know who the commander is.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It ain't going to be no backing off. It's our
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: book of the week. Order of War, bro. Yeah, Sun Tzu.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: So you retreated. Now how do you make a comeback
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to get in Ricochet?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Well, even though... The music business kind of wasn't messing
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: with me. Hollywood didn't really trip. They weren't caught up
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: in it. The bottom line is this is money, man.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: And if your movie makes money, you're going to be
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: in another movie. Let me turn this off. It's just
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: simple as that. It's like if your movie makes money,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you're going to be in another movie. And the movies
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: were making money. So you get booked to the next movie.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: So I do Ricochet. Then I do Survive in the Game.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I do Johnny Mnemonic. I was doing all kinds of movies.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: They just liked me. And I was starting to get
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the bug with it. you know I mean me myself
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: man to me rap is the gateway drug to everything
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: everything else you know we rap because that's what we
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: found a way to do it got us out of
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: trouble most of us did it the passion came from
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: knowing the options right that's the passion like what made
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: you some kids right now they want to rap but
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: they don't have the passion behind them which might be
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: prison like There's something that says, man, I cannot do
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: that anymore. I have no option. I have to make
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: this work. So when we came into it, we had that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And I've been able to maintain that. But all players
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: move differently. My name is Ice. You don't get named
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Ice by being aggravated. You know how to be calm
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in certain situations. Always. If niggas see me mad, they
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: know there's a real problem. Something's really gone bad and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I haven't been mad in many years.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Come on, man. You a smooth operator, man. Talk about
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you being in New York. Rest in peace, Skylar Rock,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: because I remember hearing KRS songs back in the days.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the whole Bronx. Scott LaRock. Rest in peace,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Scott LaRock. Tell us about your experience. We said the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: tunnel wasn't the tunnel.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That was Union Square.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Union Square. Talk about that one.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: So I'm in Union Square. Scott LaRock's the DJ at
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the time back then because I was up in the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Bronx with everybody and Africa Islam put me on with
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: everybody by having Africa Islam as my producer. I met
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: New York from the top down. I met Red Alert.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I met Chuck Chillout. Everybody. I mean, I was in
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the tunnel when Flex was playing. So I'm at the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Union Square, Scotland Rock. So I got on a gold chain.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I got my my famous gun chain on. I'm standing there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I'm on the stage. Everybody in the audience was smiling
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: at me. I'm like, they like me. Scott played six
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: in the morning.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: What is this, 85?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Don't ask me.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It was Grimey.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Grimey, New York Times. Grimey, New York. Don't ask me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It was the 80s. At the time, they was buck
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: 50 in people. That was the thing. They hit you
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and take your chain. I was like, okay, so I'm cool.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I got my gold on and they was feeling me.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Then a security guard comes over to me and says, Ice,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: there's no gold allowed in Union Square. And I looked
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: around and I'm like, holy shit. I'm the only person
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: with a gold chain. Now all these smiles, they turned
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: into like wolf faces. Like, I'm like, oh man. And
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: my chain just crawled inside of my shirt by itself.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: It just chucked itself like that. So now I'm like,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I'm scared, like, Fuck, like I'm about to get killed.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I'm by myself. So I go get ready to leave.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Scott's like, I'm leaving with this honey. I'm like, fuck now.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I can't tell him I'm scared. I gotta just play
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: this off. Now I'm dola. The robbery is about to occur.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck. So I walk off the stage and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I meet this brother from the Boogie Boys. Now I
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: don't know if he's hearing this story, but it was
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: one of the guys that made that record, Fly Girl.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Let them know where he's from. Brooklyn. Brooklyn. Brooklyn, baby.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn wins again. Brooklyn was definitely going to kill me
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that night. Brooklyn wins again. They might not have killed me,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: but they wanted my chain. I knew my chain was gone.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, and I don't got nothing. I don't
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: got nothing on me. I know I can't fight the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: whole Brooklyn. So I'm like, fuck. So I'm already planning
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: on it. I'm like, look, they can just have it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I don't need to get stomped out. So I'm like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you know, so... You know, I come off the stage
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: and this nigga just goes, yo Ice, man, I'm from
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: such and such boogie boys. I met you in LA.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I was like, my nigga. Oh, I grabbed the nigga.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Like I got the nigga like, yo, oh man. Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: that's the best record in history of the world. Nigga,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: what's happening? I'm trying to get to the two train.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I got to get across the park. So I'm hanging
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: with him. He got his own crew and they got
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: me to the platform. I had to catch the two
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: up to 156 and 10 in the Bronx. And I
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: made it home with my chain that night. Like Rick said,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: it was the moment I feared. So I said, good
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: luck in Brooklyn.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn wins again.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Good luck in Brooklyn. But you know what I always
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: say is all this tough talk and this, that, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the third. I'm like, you know, if you challenge the hood,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the hood will catch that fade. They'll catch it. They like, oh,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: you can't get got? So I never challenged the hood.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I understand when I'm outnumbered. I understand the situation. Anybody
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: can get it, man.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Move smart.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Anybody can get it, man.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Anybody, that's why I say move smart. It's not being
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: stupid or you shook. Nah, move smart. It's the smartest
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: thing for you.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was shook. I don't got no problem saying it.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, being shook has made me go left when I,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, this, that, no, I'm good. I'll
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: go this way. You know what I'm saying? Because most
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: of the times I'm dolo. I'm here by myself.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you was the only one with a chain
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: on in the whole club.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: In the club. The security came and told you. You
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: made a mistake.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Skylar Rock should have, rest in peace, Skylar Rock.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't know. He didn't know. He's a DJ
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: and he's doing his thing. You know what I'm saying?
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I was just lucky to be in his presence. But,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: you know. I told you the other story, right? I
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: was at Union Square. So once again, I got my
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: jewels on, Melly Mel's there, Red Alert is, no, not
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Union Square, Latin Quarter, original Latin Quarter in Times Square.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So I'm there, I'm with King Sun. Now King Sun's, Six, seven.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: He's big. So he's like a rapper slash security. He's there.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I'm with Melly Mel. Red Alert is spinning. Red Alert
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: is yelling, girls are snatching change right now. Everybody, girls.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this place is bananas. So this dude
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: walks up to me and he says, yo, Ice, such
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and such wants to see you over there. So I'm like,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: who wants to see me? So I walk over there.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: And this dude is standing there with the biggest chain
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. And he said, Ice-T.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: He says, you know Rakim and Eric B., right? I'm like, yeah,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I'm good with them, blah, blah, blah. He says, okay,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: you good. And it was Supreme Magnetic. And he was
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: like one of the top tier cats of Decepticons back
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: in the days. And he gave me that pass. And
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: at that point, I was good. But it's the same thing.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, I went to Bahamas, right? So we in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the Bahamas, right? So me and Coco decided we going-
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: That's a Supreme Magnetic, man. Supreme Magnetic, OG, Eric B's friend. Definitely, man.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Eric B and Rakim. So if you wasn't good with them,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: you think you would have been fooled? It would have
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: got bad.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: It would have went bad. It could have and probably
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: would have, but I got the pass. I was in
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the Bahamas with my wife, so we decided we want
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to go off. We were at the Atlantis. We want
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: to go off the resort. So we go to this club.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: So we standing there, chilling. Ain't nobody, definitely ain't no
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: white girls in there. We in there just standing there
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: and stuff. So this dude calls me. He says, come
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: over here. So this dude's sitting at the bar. He got,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: he got the like starter drug dealer kit on, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: like the little chain, the rings on every finger, right?
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: But he's obviously the dude. So he's like, Ice-G, what
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: are you doing? He said, real, people don't come off
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the resort. I said, man, I just wanted to see
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: what it's like. He says, okay. He says, you all right, man.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: That whole night he had four guys standing around us. Hmm.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: You know, so I'm that cat. Take me to your leader.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Let me meet your leader, pay homage. And then, you know,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to boss up like I'm that guy.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: And that's a challenge. Got you, got you. So that's
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: how I operate. Pay homage and I'm here to enjoy myself.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I'm here to enjoy myself, man. I'm not here for nothing.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I came with my own bitch. I'm not even trying
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: to knock your bitches down. I got my lady. I'm
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: here with my wife. I'm chilling. Yeah, I'm not even tripping.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I'm chilling.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I look at you as the ultimate hustler because you
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: went from hit music, movies... TV, acting, your own film, right?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: But.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: You had a song called Cop Killer. And then you
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: fast forward to Law and Order. How long have I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: been on TV now? 12, 13 years?
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Nah, 28. 28? You told me back there you was only-
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: 28 years. Back there you said you was only supposed
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: to do four episodes. Real Talk Murder. Four episodes.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: 28 years. That's crazy.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I did five shows with Dick Wolf. Dick Wolf was
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: the producer. I did five shows. I did New York Undercover.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I did three episodes. I played Danny up. I was
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: wowing on there, cutting people's fingers off.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember New York Undercover.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Then I played a gangster on Swift Justice. I came
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: about drunk with a shotty blasted nigga. Then I played
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: a pimp on this Law and Order Exile. They killed
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: me with a bowling pin. Then I had a show
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: called Players, which was mine. It was on for a season.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: And then when that was over, Dick Wolf said, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: would like you to come over to SVU. I said, nah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: At the time, I was trying to start my own label.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I was trying to invent MP3 games. I was ahead
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: of the curve on that, but I came out here,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I did four episodes, and they asked me to stay.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: And at the time, hip hop was making this weird
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: turn toward ringtone rap, and it was getting ringtone rap,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: it was auto-tuned. That was 20 years ago. And I
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't really fit in with that. I
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: don't rap like that. So I was like, so it
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: was the perfect time. 28 years later, still on the show.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I'm the longest running. What was your people saying about
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: that when you first started with Law & Order?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Come on, y'all. Come on.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: 28 years.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Law & Order. Shout out to Law & Order, man.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: So when you first started with Law & Order, what's
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: your people saying about that? Get money, nigga. Got you.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Get money. My hustler player buddies is like, look, man,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: they call me, they like, you like Kaiser Sosa, nigga.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: You that nigga that... can transform into whoever for whatever
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: it's being. You send me with the rich white aristocrats,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: you might talk to me, I might be using an
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: entirely different dialect. You know what I'm saying? You don't know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: but I mean, a hustler's job is to get paid, man.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: So I come from a long line of players and
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: hustlers that made me understand it. You know, your integrity
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: and how you feel about it. Like, I don't have
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: a problem with it. And I see this thing. I
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: never let niggas dictate my moves. I used to prey
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: on niggas. I thought niggas in my neighborhood was suckers.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I thought my crew was the only fly niggas. All
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: these niggas is prey. These niggas don't understand the hustle.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: So for me now to turn around and let the
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: streets dignitate my moves, you got to be on my level.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I fucks with y'all. Y'all know what it's like. Y'all
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: been at the altitude. You know what it's like. So
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I'll pay attention. But an average cat can't tell me nothing, man.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I hear how you feel, but you still
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: stuck in your emotions. You niggas is in your emotions.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: We trying to make moves. So like I said, I
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: became the longest running actor in television history. Damn. Oh, shit.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Law and order, baby. Not black. They want to put
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: black on a note. Longest running actor, Mariska. Mariska has
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: me by a few episodes, my co-star. But I'm the
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: longest running, and Law and Order is the longest running
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: prime time drama in television history. That's crazy.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Come on, another one for that.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: That's crazy right there.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: So hold on, let me get this right.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Let's get it right.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Dick Wolf did Law and Order, General Hospital, what else?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: No, he did. He didn't do General Hospital.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: No, not General Hospital. He did a lot of shows.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: No, he has FBI on. He has Chicago Fire, Chicago PD.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be wrong.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong. Go for it. Run it down. Run it down.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Run it down. Run it down. New York Undercover.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: But dig this.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: When I went to do 50.com back in the day,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I came to 50's office and we sat down. And
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I was talking to him and he said to me,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, you making your moves? He says, I'm
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: trying to do what you doing. But I didn't really
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: realize he meant I'm trying to do what Dick Wolf
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: is doing. Right. He was talking about that not too
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: long ago, doing what Dick Wolf is doing. And he's
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: doing it. He's doing it. That's a fact. He's doing it. So,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you know, like us players, we watch each other. We
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: watching like, ooh, ooh, that was a fly move. I
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: just watched that, you know? And we inspire each other.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: People think things can't be done until it's done. And
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: so when 50 walks through those doors and gets those deals,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: stop hating. Now that means somebody else that looks like
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: him can bring it. You know, maybe I'm not 50 Cent,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: but I'm Ice-T. Maybe that'll help me. He might help
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: me get a deal. So, you know, we got to
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: stop all this hating, man. We got to understand that
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: every move we make helps everybody else. It helps everybody else.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: He definitely flipped the power series to like the- I mean, 28-
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: We was just talking about that.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 28 years on TV, bro?
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: 28. And it kept me out of trouble.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to do.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Kept me out of the ditty parties. I got call time.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I can't hang out. He said it kept me out
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: of the ditty parties. I mean, you know what I'm saying?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: It just kept me inside, so to speak, you know?
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: And hip hop went so left. that I didn't really
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: want to be a part of hip hop, you know,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: but now I watch the music kind of come around.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I see Nas dropping records. I see Rick Slick Rick.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I seen clips and all them. So I'm in the
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: studio with Tretch, my guy, and they like, nigga, you
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: ain't done. You ain't done. Like, cause I think you
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: ever stopped rapping. You could rap and you'd die on
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: your death bed. A rapper can rap. So I was like,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: and then the, I just got the bug again. I said,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: let's just go in. And so we went in and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: made this new album.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman That's good. Because I mean, it's much money.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: You got the Richard Million.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: See that?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: That's why I leave my phone on the floor.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Richard Million. Come on. Come on. Ice low key.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm going to talk about? Because I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: know them chicks. Talk about, because I know you know
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to ask you this. Talk about the
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: car collection, man. I do my homework on you. Talk
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: about the car collection, man. Because you get crazy with
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the cars. Murder don't know nothing about the car.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I seen the police trying to pull you. I seen
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: the funny footage one time. You my brother. Hold up, man.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this, right? I seen the
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: funny footage where the police was trying to pull you over.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: And you like, yo, listen, man. The DMV, no, I
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: didn't say that. The DMV is right there. It's right there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I'm on my way to handle the problem. And he
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: told me, I was cool, then the cop says, we
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: about to tow your car. I was like, hold up,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: you ain't finna tow my shit. We not going there.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And by playing the cops, I already know, it's always,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: they have the right to do whatever. I could be
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the cops and I could tap you down and feel
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: the burner and be like, yo. Get out of here.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: They don't have to. So all that bullshit, they got to.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, this dude is just particularly being an asshole.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: And he was sweating me. You said from playing the cop,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: you started, you learned certain shit. I learned how they operate.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I learned how they operate. So I'm like, okay, motherfucker,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: you don't got to tow my shit. I'm trying to
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: get there. And I got pissed off. I was like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: come on, man. But my boy said he got mad
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: when he said, well, how many, I was trying to
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: register the car. I said, I got seven cars. He said,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: once you said that, it was a wrap. He was
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: on his bulls.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: It was over. The car he was in was probably $ 400, 000, bro.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: It was over.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Talk about the car collection.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I'm a car guy. Okay. I've always been into cars.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: When I was in high school, I graduated early. I
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: had enough credits that I had four periods of auto body.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: and Fender. I always wanted to work on cars. I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: can paint cars. I know how to, I went to
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: trade tech college. I wanted to be a car guy.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: That was my thing. And, uh, I've always had a
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: love for cars. Like they say cars sometimes is the carrot,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the piece men working to stop the, the one of
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: that next car. So I, I've had a lot of
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: different cars, you know, um, the Ron pays album cover.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I had a, uh, a turbo Porsche slant nose on
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: that cover, uh, in, in, um, And on New Jack Hustler,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: I had a Ferrari before niggas could spell it. Ferrari?
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: You had that shit.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: You said before niggas could spell it. Yeah, I had
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: that at the MTV quiz. I had the Diablo with
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: the brains blown out. So I was like, I've always
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: just liked cars. So, you know, I have a few cars,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: you know, but... You can't drive them in New York City.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: You have potholes and shit. So when I came out
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: here at that time, I had a Ferrari and I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: hit a pothole and felt like it broke the chassis. Bam!
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, damn. So now I live in Jersey,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: but I got a driver to bring me in here
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: because New York, you can't park them. They did disrespect
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: cars in New York. And New York, the only way
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: you could take a nice car out is you have
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: to call ahead and tell them, can you give me
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: a spot? Make sure. They won't, like these parking structures,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: if the car is expensive, they won't even park them
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: in the parking garages. Yeah, they don't. They only want
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: to be responsible.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: The liability.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't have Lambos, but I got, I
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: think my most, Hyatt and his Ivor McLaren 720. But
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I hit the wall with cars. At some point, the
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: cars become so exotic that they're just unpractical. You can't
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: go anywhere. You can't park them. It's something like you
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: want to put in the middle of your living room
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: or something like that. Unless you live in Miami and stuff.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami, West Coast.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But no, I mean, I like cars. We can
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: talk cars later. Yeah, we can talk cars later. So
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: with this new album, what made you not want to
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: go streaming?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Criminal Wild Grain. Make sure y'all go get that.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Definitely. So we can keep all the money. What made
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: you not want to go stream? Because everybody go stream now.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Streaming is the biggest ripoff in the history of music.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Streaming is not something anybody ever agreed to. Like, when
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: I would sell records at Warner Brothers, I would get
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: a dollar an album. Let's say that. So, you sell
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: a million records, that's a million. And that was a
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: lot back then, because motherfuckers was getting only 17, 18 cents.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Shit like that. 11 cents. Yeah, well, niggas been getting
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: fucked since time started. That's a bet. You know what
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? But I'm just saying hypothetically, I would get
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: a dollar an album. So, you sell a million records,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: you make a million dollars. If you sell eight million records,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: it's eight million dollars. You get counted. It's numbers. We
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: drug dealing, we understand numbers, right? Okay, cool. So- After
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: that million dollars, you'd have to pay taxes, so you
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: might make 750 off that, because government's the biggest pimp,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: they gonna take their cut. Then you gotta pay your producers,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you gotta pay this, you gotta pay that, pay that.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: You might walk with 450 off a ticket, right? Then
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: you gotta split that amongst your group. It's not a
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: lot of money, okay? Now they come with this streaming shit.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: You get. 007s or. 003 cents a stream. I ain't
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: never even met a pimp that could break a penny down.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: These niggas done found a way to break a penny down.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Give a nigga a penny. How do you break a
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: penny down? How do you break a fucking penny down?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: So it costs, it takes about 300 million streams to
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: make a million dollars. And let's be honest, who's going
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: to do 300 million streams? Maybe Bad Bunny, maybe Taylor Swift,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm a rapper. You got the Drake's, people that's
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: like that, that's going to do that. Yeah, so now
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I ain't coming back to this business to
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: get fucked, right? So I figure, okay, you moved 20
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: million records over your career. Let's sell the record straight
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: to consumer. I did a double album, it cost $ 20. Okay,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: so $ 20, all I gotta do is move 50,000 of them,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: that's a million. If I could get 10,000 people to
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: spend $ 100, that's a million. So I'm like, you know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: like I said, it's math. Street niggas understand math.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Tonyale.com's coming soon, like ice-tea.com.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Tonyale.com. Yeah, so you go to that. com and say, okay,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: come over there, stream. So now you go to my website,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: you pay, well, it was $ 10 pre-sale, now it's 20
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: bucks because it's a double album, it's 24 songs. I
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: don't really need no new fans, Yago. I don't care.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: If you've never heard me, fuck, go away. But if
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: you've ever fucked with me, if you're one of those
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: 20 million, the record. You're a loyal Ice-T fan. We
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: need you to go get that now. Yeah. So now,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: what is a criminal migraine? A criminal migraine is that
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: moment in your brain when you think about going back.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Like when a nigga cuts you off in traffic and
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: you like, motherfucker, and your brain goes to that crime
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and then you go, oh shit, I can't do that.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Like the other day we were getting- And I was
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: ready to take it back, but hold up. That means
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I got too much to lose. I got too much
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: to lose. That's the migraine. So like the other day,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: me and Coco were getting ready to park and a
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: girl cut in front of her and took the parking
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: space and I seen her I say criminal migraine. You
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: wanna kill the bitch, right? So, and the way this album,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: once you listen to the album, the album is about
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: getting out of the game. Cause I feel like, okay,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I'm 60 plus, I'm 68, okay. I'm the oldest rapper. Man,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: we stay thin in the way his hands are in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: the face. Ain't nothing gonna get old around me. Ain't
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: nothing gonna get old. In the face. Only thing I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: keep rolled around me is money, you understand? So, anyway,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: I lost my... Oh, so, The Criminal Migraine was an album,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I said, at this point, by all practical observations... I've
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: been successful, right? My early records was me hustling and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: we going to get the money. So now I think
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: the people who listen to my record want to know, Ice,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: give us some game. Like, tell us what to do,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: what not to do. You obviously did what you set
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: out to do. So now give it up. So that's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: what the album is more about. It's about getting out
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: of the game. It's about the transition period of the
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: gangster into the other world that we all want to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: be in. You know, I tell cats, I say, okay,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: so you a gangster, right? You big gangster. You gonna
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: make all this money illegally. Where you finna live? Is
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: there an island or a planet that gangsters live? You're
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: going to have to move right next door to somebody legitimate.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: And they're going to want to know where you got
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: that money from. So now you're going to have to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: spend the rest of your life acting legitimate. Right? If
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: you want to stay thugged out, you're going to have
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: to be stuck where you started. But you want to elevate.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: You're going to want to move into that condo. You're
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: going to want to move into that upscale neighborhood. Well,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: guess what? They're going to want to know who you are. Thanks.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: They have friends that are governors. They're going to go
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: up in your ass with a microscope. They're going to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: want to know who the fuck you are. So even
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: though you want to be a gangster, you're going to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: end up trying to become legit. It's the end result.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: So I'm less like, you know, I ain't never been
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: with the thug shit neither. People are like, oh, you thug.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I never wanted to be a thug. I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: was not a thug. Never. That's hard to believe. You know,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: some people can't, you can't tell people that shit though. What?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Ice-T wasn't a thug? Wasn't what that thug said? Thugging
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: is something different. Thugging is not. Thugging is something different.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I'm a player. I'm on another channel. I'm like, get
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: some clothes, nigga. You look like a thug. What? Step
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: your game up, man. Thug, you go to Popeye's, man.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: We going over here and have some.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I tell him.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Passport boy, we going fast.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: You want to be a friend of Bodega.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: That's the type of shit I'm on. I'm on IC. Now,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: as a thug, you can elevate, but the object is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: never to stay that. Of course. Right? The boss is
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: not a thug. What? He's a boss. And I've never
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: been one to even be a boss. I'm just like...
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I always wanted to play, you know, like, in the cut. Like...
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: That's why I love and power the dude's name was Ghost.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: And like I said, some people hustle to be seen,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: others hustle to disappear. You don't see me in... Well,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: that day they got me. And the time they showed that,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: that was a... He said, that day they got me.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: That was a police cam. I did not post that. God, yeah,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: it was a police cam. It was a police cam. Yeah,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, that was them trying to put me
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: on blast. That was them putting you on blast. You
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: won't catch me doing that goofball shit. No, no.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: He survived the gang wars in LA. He survived... The
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: crazy times in New York City. He survived having a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: rap career, having beef with politicians, police union, president. He
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: know how to move, bro.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: But I could walk out of here and get banked
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: by some kid with six ounces of pressure. It doesn't matter.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Anybody could get it. So I think the trick with
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: me is I'm very humble to this and my surroundings
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: and humans and knowing how fucked up humans can be
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: and know how jealousy could turn into something different. And
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: like I say, your boss, 50, he likes that energy.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: He thrives in that energy. He's that kind of a person.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not that type of a person. But in a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: certain situation, I might be the right type of a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: person for whatever, you know, if Fifth wants to go
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: to war, Ice is going to say, let's do it
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: this way. You pick at your pick. We both going
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: to end up surviving.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: When you did Ricochet, was you taking acting classes at
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: that time? Because you went straight from New York, Jack
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: City to Ricochet. And that was another, that was like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: a big movie also.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I was scared as shit again, Tony. I was so scared.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: I was scared. I was like, I got to act
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: with Denzel Washington.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Denzel Washington.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Denzel's a G, though. Denzel came in my dressing room
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: and he shopped it up with me for like two
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: hours just talking because I had to play his best friend.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: And he was like, you can't. Later, I understood why
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: he did it. But it's like you can't walk on
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: the set and play against Denzel Washington if you never
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: met him. So he wanted to drop off. Yo, we homies.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: We cool. He told me some stories. We shot the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: shit and we played. But I'll never forget the first
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: scene I did with him. Denzel was laughing and shit.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: And then they go, action. That nigga jumped into character.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: And I flubbed my lines. He was like, come on, Ice.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, that's what you're doing. You're
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: dribbling between your legs. And at that moment, I said,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: I want to learn how to act like that. What
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I think is that Great people do what they do effortlessly.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: It's effortlessly. Like I seen JJZ rap and I was like, wow. Like,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: you know, back because he didn't write it. I seen
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: him do it. I was like, wow. The people didn't
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: make it a big thing. I'm about to do something.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: You an amateur. Like the real cats, it just seems
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: simple for them. It's not a big thing. So when
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I watched Denzel Washington, I was like, Okay, that's who
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I would love to learn to be. And now after
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: 25 years, I think I know, I feel comfortable on
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the set. If you put me in front of a
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: De Niro or somebody, I wouldn't be intimidated. I'm like,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: let's go.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: But when you start- Yeah, because then at that, come on, didn't.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Did you eventually take acting classes? No. Oh, you never?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: I did survive in the game with F. Murray Abraham,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: and he had just won the Oscar. What was his
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: character in Scarface? He was the- The one they hung
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: from the helicopter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I never liked
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: I never liked that guy. F. Murray Abraham. But anyway,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: he asked me in the movie, he said, Ice, you
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: ever took acting class? I said, no. He said, don't.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: It'll ruin your mechanism. He said, you have a musician's mind,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: so you understand the cadence of conversation. Because when you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: read a line, it'll say, somebody's outside. Go outside and
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: check the car. That's how it reads. Someone is outside,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: go out and check the car. But the way it's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: said is somebody's outside, go check the car, right? There's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: a cadence of conversation. You have to be able to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: translate what is written into conversation. And he said, but
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: being a musician, you can do that. He said, learn
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: from the other actors you're working with. Learn from the
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: working actors. And I'd say that to any rapper. Learn
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: from working rappers, like get around other good MCs. You're
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: going to learn something. You're going to pick something up
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: from them. Don't have somebody that doesn't rap teach you.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: They say who those who can't act, they say those
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: who can't do teach. You know, if they could do it,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: why are they teaching? Go do it. You know? Got you.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Makes sense. Yeah. So, so I've been fortunate and I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: just learned, I got a chance to work around Denzel
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: and Rutger Hauer, all these great actors, and being on
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Law and Order every day, working with Mariska, working with
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: all the guest stars. I mean, I feel I can
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: act now. Rob Markman, Jr.: Of course. Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: So what advice, because I just shout out to Shane Gillis.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I just was on Ties, a big show on Netflix.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: Good for you.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: It's on. Thank you, man.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, good for you. That's my brother.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: I love that. I love that. Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: So I know they're going to have a season four.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Hopefully I can be on that, right?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: It's a big show. I don't know how long it's
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: going to last. I don't know, 28 years, it would
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: be great.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman It doesn't matter. Everything you do is an
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: audition for your next gig. So it doesn't matter as
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: long as you just did good on that.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman So what advice would you give me, Uncle Murda,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: any aspiring actors out there? We took acting classes, but
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: not too many. What advice would you give us?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Just humble yourself to it. Just humble it.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: You're not Tony Ayo. You're just a brother just walking
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: on there. You ain't Uncle Murda. You're just an actor. Now,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: the flavor you got is what they hiring you for.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: You have a flavor. You can't take it away because
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: no matter who you are, it's going to come through. Like,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: no matter who Al Pacino plays, it's an Al Pacino-ish character,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson-ish character. All of them put... this thing on it, right?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: That's what you are going to put on the character
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: that no one else has. That's your flavor and your
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: flavor and Ice's flavor. If I'm a school teacher, it's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: going to be an Ice-T-ish school teacher. And that's what...
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: That's the part of acting that change makes you really valuable.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: If you don't put anything special on it and you
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: don't try to, it's coming, you can't help it. Then
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: you become a character actor. You've seen people in a
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: hundred movies, you don't know their name, right? But when you-
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: They just go in there saying their lines and that's it.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: But it's not their fault because you- I don't like this,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: but it either happens or it doesn't happen. You know
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like, no matter how well I act,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how great I can act. For some reason,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: people like it. For some unknown reason, they like it. Right?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I can't make people like me. They just like it.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: When you make music, they either like it or they don't.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: And if you're lucky enough that people like it, you're blessed. Right.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: You're just lucky. You know, you can't say, oh, they
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: gonna feel me. Like, niggas is like, nah, that's just garbage, nigga.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Don't want that shit. You know, and you know, the
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: thing of it is though, one thing I teach my son,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I teach everybody, right? And I think Maya Angelou said this.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: It's not how much money you got. It's not where
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: you live. It's not cars, nothing. What people either feel,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: it's how you make people feel and how that's your value, right?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: If I like you, you invited shit coming around. But
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: you only get one try. You get one audition. You
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: come to the party, I don't like his energy, that's it. Right? Right?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: But if you like people's energy, and think about that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: in your life, like, People that you, you could make
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars with them, but you're like, I just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: really don't fuck with this nigga. Like, there's something about him.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: And you could keep that, man. I don't want it. But,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: you know, so I've always had the ability that people
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: dug my energy, you know?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Only people that didn't dig my energy would be people
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: that my energy intimidated them. Like, they like, I can't
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: be as fly as this nigga. I don't want him around.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking my shit. I'm just talking. You know
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You come to this crib, you got one try, nigga.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Ain't that how it works? I remember you from messing
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: with Smooth and Trigger, too, man. Shout out to Smooth
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: of Hustlin' and Trigger, man. Smooth is on the album. Okay,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: he's on the album. Okay, look at that. Look at that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I met Smooth at... Look, so can I tell a
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: quick Smooth record? Of course, man. It's a good story.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I was in New York back in the day, and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: I went to see Bugsy. at BLS, and he said,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: who you feeling right now in New York? I said,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: this one record, It Takes Two, I Wanna Rock Right Now,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: and this other record, the Jesus Christ Bible Ripper, the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Ike and Tina Turner ass whooping learner. And they were like, oh,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: that's called Broken Language, that's Smooth to Hustle, Trigger Gamma.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Before I left the studio, them niggas was downstairs. Brooklyn
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: showed up. That's how it was back in the day.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: We pulling up to that radio station. They pulled up
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: and I met Smoove. I met Trigger. At the time,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Papoose was part of SMG. He still is. He got
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: it tattooed in his skin. I met them. I hung
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: out with DR period in the Bronx. I mean, in Brooklyn.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: And I've been friends with Smoove ever since, uh, You know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: DVA Alias Christ, all the Brooklyn cats. That's facts. The
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: DVA Alias Christ.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: That broken language was a flamer, though.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Smooth's doing a new album right now. I inspired him.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: He's on two tracks on my album, and I inspired him.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: He's like working on some stuff, you know? So I'm
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: kind of like executive producing him and Tretch. Dope, man.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: Because- Yeah, we just had Tretch on the show.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Tretch, man. I'm the one sticking Tretch. Like, nigga, go, go.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And since I, you know, the way I rap, I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: rap crazy. I'm pushing him, you know, because Trigger Tretch
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: is wicked, you know. But, you know, Minority by Nature
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: was a little bit more calm. Facts. I want Tretch
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: to go in. He's treacherous. You know, that's where he's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: going in. So, you know, and you can't out-rap Tretch.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: You know? And Smooth the Hustler is a beast on
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: the mic. I like rappers, man. I look at rappers
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: like every rapper, think of it like ballplayers. Some niggas
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: got jump shots. Some niggas will slam. Some niggas got handles.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: You know, you got people like Tech N9ne and them
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: that's like the Globetrotters with it. But then you've got
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: different people that just got punchlines. You got different. So
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: every rapper has their own thing they do. Like you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: mentioned E-40. You mentioned Tushar. Everybody. And all of them
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: survive in the game. Definitely. Definitely, man. Definitely.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: What's one of your craziest tour stories? Because I heard
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: you say you was on tour with N.W.A., fucking Eazy-E
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: and them back in the day. What that was like?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Because I'll always be one of them.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Eazy was wild. Eazy was wild. You know, the cool
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: thing about Eazy, Eazy would tell people he was 15.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: You know, because he was little. He has a lyric
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: where he says that. No, it's funny stuff. I mean,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Cube used to write all this stuff. And I remember
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Cube told me in one of the lyrics, Eazy-E said,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say. And Cube said,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I wrote that, but I didn't think he was going
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: to say that. But we had so much fun out
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: there with D.O.C. and early back in the day. I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: think one time they were there when I knocked this
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: nigga out in Kansas City. What the fuck I'm talking about?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: I told you.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: I see a gangster.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Knocked a nigga out. We were in Kansas City and-
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I used to have this part of my song before
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I would say six in the morning. First, I would say,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: the police say if I do this song, they're going
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: to put me in jail. I make the crowd yell,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: fuck the police, fuck the police, fuck the police. And
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: I say, my name is Ice-T. I got to rep
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: like a killer, killer. No one gets wilder. No one
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: gets iller, iller. I don't get high. I don't drink Miller, Miller.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: But if your bitch is empty, I'm sure I can
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: fill her. I make stupid ass records because I just
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: don't care, care. Motherfuckers can't play my shit on the air, air.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: But y'all know you love it. You say you want more.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Because every time I leave the crib and go to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: the store, I hear six in the morning police at
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: my door. Fresh Shadida scream. Boom. So that was the intro.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: So this night I'm doing it. My name is Ice-T.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I got to rep like a killer. This nigga in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: the front row. I want to fuck that bitch. Where
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: is that bitch? No one gets wilder. No one gets iller.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: That bitch on the album cover, I want to fuck
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: that bitch. Now, that's Lil Ice's mother. That was Darlene
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: at the time. So I was like, this nigga is
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: in my dead air. Like, loud as a motherfucker. We're
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: in an arena. This nigga's louder than me, and I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: got the mic. And you feel like everybody hear him, too? Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: He was loud. He was loud. So I'm like, so
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, criminal migraine. The nigga just
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: hit the nerve. I was like, yo, come on stage, man.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Come on stage. So they bring him over the thing, right?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: They bring him over the thing. Now me, I'm a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: cold nigga. I'm not going to give the nigga a chance.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: So what I did was I backed off of him
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: the correct amount of space. So as soon as the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: nigga put his foot on the stage, I caught it. Bing!
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: The nigga just spun like this and fell into the
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: hole between. I yelled, six in the morning, boy, you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: have a hot dog. Oh, the crowd went crazy. We
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: need an Instagram for that. We need an Instagram for
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: that right there.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Talk about that cover, because that cover, that was your
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: first baby mother?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Darling.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: That cover was, you've got to admit, that album cover
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: was a classic cover.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Well, what happened, okay, so Ryan Pays, Darling was in
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: the Porsche, right? Because it was important for me. Glenn
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Friedman shot the covers and it was like, you have
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: to represent LA. You can't look like New York. And
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: I hired Glenn because he had did Public Enemy. He
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: had done LL. He'd done everybody. I said, to get
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: in the game, I have to look as good as
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: the New York rappers. Eric being right, I have to.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: So I hired him and he said, well, you can't
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: look like New York. I want a car. We want
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: a girl. We want a palm tree. Just so this
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: says LA. So the next album was Power. And 50
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: owes me some money for that. But next album was Power.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: And I came up with the concept of, OK, it's
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: three of us. You got the girl. She had the shotgun.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Then I had the Uzi and he had the shotgun.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: So the first the first power is the power of sex.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: You see her. That's the first power. The second power
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: is the power of weapons. You see the weapon. When
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: you turn it over, it's the ultimate power, which is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: the power of deception. You know? And, you know, it's
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: not the guy you think did it. It's the guy
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: that told him to do it. That's the deception. So
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: that went over most people's heads. But, you know, it
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: was the first time somebody seen an ass cheek. Niggas
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: lost it. They was like, yo.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Now that album cover was a classic album cover.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: It still is to this day.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, I mean, that to me, The
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: music is the music, but the album cover meant something.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: The liner notes meant something. The videos meant something. It's art.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: It all tells the story. So like I say, nowadays,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: it's just, you can buy one song. And the thing
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: about a cassette is you had to listen to the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: whole side. You had to. And CDs made you able
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: to skip. In the album, you would put it on,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I used to have the Isley Brothers, The Heat Is
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: On album, and that B-side, every day I dream. It
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: had the slow, if you put that on and you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: wasn't fucking by the end of that side, take the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: bitch home, it's over. It's over, that album was, it
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, it was guaranteed, that album. So,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, but there's a song on the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: new album called No Regrets. And I say, I'm from
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: a different place, different time, where niggas really meant what
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: they said in their rhymes. Where niggas cook coke, actually
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: move weight. where players got caught and would not turn states.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Please believe me, I will not deceive thee. The code
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: is gone. Now you're on your own. You're risking your
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: life if you're still in the trap. No cap is
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: infested with rats. He ain't lying. Come on, man. Yeah,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: so we from a different place, different time, but it
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: still stands. Real game stands forever. So I'm going to
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: try to drop it and hopefully some cats will take
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: notice and pay attention.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy because when you look at like a...
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Young Dirk, the Dirk situation, with like OTF Jam and
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: people that is his friends that he took care of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: or telling on him for something he supposes he did.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: Sucker shit. Rob Markman, Jr.: How you feeling?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: You talking about that in the rap, so how you feeling?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.: The game is not See, people are
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: getting the edge of the game. The Mob had it
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: a certain way, and this, that, and the third. I mean,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: I don't mean like discussing this shit, but the honest
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: truth is the cat you sent to whack somebody usually
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: gets whacked. I know. And that's how the mob used
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: to take care of it. And that's the type of
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: loose ends. You know what I'm saying? So if you
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of people that have been putting a
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: lot of work for you and they're still walking around breathing,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: those are loose ends. Oh, shit. So I'm telling the truth.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: If you got shooters, nigga, and if they done shot
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: enough people and like most of the shooters, you might
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: as well shoot them niggas too. Well, or don't ever
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: send them. Go do this stuff by yourself. I mean,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: I was taught, I was taught that if it, right,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: what you do, you go get in the bed with
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: your girl, you put in that work, you put her
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: to sleep, you slide out real slow. You go handle
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: your business, you come in and you fuck her in
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: the morning. Mm-hmm. Rob Markman, Jr.: And I should have
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: asked about it. But now they got GPS, all kinds
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: of shit, television, this, that. Nigga, breaking the law right now,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: you got to be suicidal. Rob Markman, Jr.: See what
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Nigga's doing it they self though.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Nigga's taking they self.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm glad he just said that.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Can we play Shut the Fuck Up? Can we play it?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can play Shut the Fuck Up.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Of course we can, man. I want you to hear
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: this song. Let me get this out.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.: So he was talking about the technology
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: and how people Shut the fuck up is basically the podcast.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: It's self-explanatory. I rap very, like, you understand it. I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: don't really mix it up. I feel if you can't
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: hear what I'm saying, how can you hear what I'm saying?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: So that's why I like you, too. It's like, it's very,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: but you hear it. Let's go. Yo. Yo. Trying to
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: figure out what's going on.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Is Africa Islam again?
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Nah, this is another video. I learned the games from
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: OGs and shot callers. Street pimps, drug dealers, hustlers, and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: top ballers. First rule, keep your fucking mouth shut. Watch
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: what you're saying, don't talk about much. My name should
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: never come out your mouth, no matter what the topic.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: You're talking too much, stop it. Never on the phone,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: consider every phone tap. Too many niggas had to learn
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: about that. Now they're crying those tattoo tears. Feds watch
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: niggas for years. You think you're getting it in, you're
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: on a crime spree. 20, 30 indictments more than likely.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Then you get on the net and claim you ain't fake.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Why your niggas still fighting the case? I don't get it.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Somebody help me out.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: These dumb niggas out here dying for clout.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Nowadays niggas talk too much Get off the internet Shut
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: the fuck up These podcasts know exactly what they selling
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Self incriminating you and you're the one telling They pitch
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: you in They say you're soft You start bragging about
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: the bodies that you knocked off. You're posting drugs, guns, cash,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: and jewels. You gotta be some fucking fool. Shut the
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Stop talking. Shut the fuck up. Stop telling on yourself
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: on the internet, man. Breathe dirt, I said.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Yo. How many niggas got a cinch on they selves?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: How many niggas want a ticket to hell? Let's go.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: The podcast, the job, it's views. Uh-huh. That motherfucker gives
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: a fuck about you. Listen. Motherfucker, what you talking about?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: They set you up, get you over, then you start spilling.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Next thing you done segue to some recent killings. I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: don't trust none of they ass. You never catch me
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: on none of they cash. It's like a straight up lie.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Am I day for trolling you die? That means I
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: fuck it off. Shut the fuck up. We'll see you
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: next time. That's a criminal migraine. Icedtea.com. Criminal migraine.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: He's not streaming for a little bit of money. He
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: want a bag.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Did that make sense? Yes, it makes a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: whole lot of fucking sense, Ice. I'm fucking with that. Hey,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: you know, they bait you in. They say you're soft.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: So first thing they do is say, yeah, nigga, I
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: heard you was fake. Right? Nigga, I got my gun
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: on me right now. So they bait you in. Now
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: you start bragging about the bodies you knocked off. Come on, man.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: The podcast's job is views. They don't give a fuck
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: about you. So I wouldn't come.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: But we give a fuck about you.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: No, but dig this. I done Nori. I done Nori.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: I done Fat Joe. I done y'all. Yes, definitely. Because
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I respect y'all guys.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: And y'all ain't asked me no sideways questions. Of course.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: Come on. You know the ice, man. I'll tell you
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: what the thing is before we go. The thing is this.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: They're not really even interviewing rappers no more. So if
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: you only interview gangsters, what can they talk about but
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: gangster shit? So that's their, it's not like they have
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: a gold record. They killed people or they did this
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: or they did time. So let's brag about the time.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I've never been to prison. I never got caught.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: I paid attention when the game was taught. You understand me?
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: So I don't. get into it. When I was on
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: this yard or that yard, I'm like, all right, cool.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: You fucked up. You know what I'm saying? You got caught, obviously.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: So my thing is that we have to start paying
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: attention to the people that navigated around that shit. You know, like,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: show me how to get around it. Show me what
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: to do with my money. Show me what I did. Okay,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I got my street money. What do I do with
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: it now? How do I transfer? Because people ask me
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: all the time, they say, Ice, what's your most proud of?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: And I say, transition.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: There's a whole world out there. I totally agree with you.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: I was rolling one night and this nigga pulled up
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: on me in a Rolls, right? We were going someplace
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: down the street. And I don't even look out my car.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: When I'm driving, I'm like this. Niggas can honk. I'm
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: like this. Because one time I waved to somebody and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: I rear-ended somebody. So I'm rolling and I look over
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: and he said, yo, what's yo-yo? Like that. He showed
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: me some love. I was like. Players, man. Real players.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: But we all, everyone's watching everybody. Everybody sees everybody. So
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: no matter who you think you are, niggas know who
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: you are. So your brain might think, oh, I'm the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: flyest niggas. Niggas like, no, you're not, nigga. You're corny.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: It's not you. So I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: So I got two questions for you.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Because I remember you said, I give you one chance,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: you get banned from the mansion. So me and Murda
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: come to the crib.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Y'all welcome.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: And he's looking at Coco too long.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: He's cool.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: He's being from the crib?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: No, he has his priorities straight. I know he's just
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: admiring the art. Ice is a player and I've been
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: around before. I've been around Coco before in Ice Crib.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Ice is a player, man. Ice is cool though, man.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: He's admiring the art. That's it. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know he wouldn't do nothing disrespectful. I
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: would never do nothing disrespectful to his wife. But no,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: you guys are definitely welcome. I would love to have
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: you over, you know, Manson. I've been around Ice-T family before, brother.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: We got history, you know what I'm saying? Niggas ain't disrespectful.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I always say, no. No matter how gangster
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: you are, when somebody's mother comes in the room, or kid,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: niggas change their behavior, or you'll really see some real gangsters.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Better believe it. We could be over here talking about this, that,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: and the other, and then comes your kid. All of
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: a sudden, everybody- Of course. We know how to behave.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Come on, man. You're an original gangster here, bro. Nobody
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: ain't fucking with you. Number two is, I got to
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: ask you, your top five that motivated you on the
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: West Coast? Before you came out or before you was
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: on that we might not know? Or in your top
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: five on the East Coast that you was feeling?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Well, like you say, I like to do inspirational. I
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: don't like to do my favorite top five rappers. Like,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: who inspired you to do this shit? Yeah, who inspired you? Well, L.A.,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: there was nobody. Because I was the first rapper out there.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: Toddy T, Mix Master Spade was doing tapes. Too Short.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: was in the Bay doing stuff. But I was the
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: one that wanted to truly rap like New York rappers.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: So I kind of was like the first person to
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: kind of really break. And I was inspired by Schoolie D.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Six in the Morning was really my impression of Schoolie
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: D's PSK. It is a long story that goes with that.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: But when I first started rapping, I was cosplaying a rapper.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: I was trying to look like New York. I had
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: on a Kango. I was trying to look like New
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: York because I wanted to get in. If you want
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: to be a country western singer, you're going to buy
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: a cowboy hat. I'm trying to be like New York.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Then Russell Simmons was with me at a party. And
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: I was dressed in, you know, Fila, K-Swiss, Perm. And
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: I rapped and he said, that's you Ice. He said,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: you have to be you. You can't be Melly Mel.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Like you have to be you. Just do it. And
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, but no, there were no LA rappers.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: So I was like, how do you do it from LA?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: Once I got the courage after Schoolie D did PSK,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, he's rapping about a gang, Parkside Killers. That
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: was a green light. Like, okay, so I could talk
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: about my criminal activities. You got to remember, the theory
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: of making records talking about crime was unheard of. You know,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: you had the bar cage. You had all, Daz Band.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sure them niggas did cocaine and drugs, but they
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: wouldn't sing about it. Talk about that shit. They wouldn't
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: sing about it. They wouldn't sing about it. So you don't,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: you want to be an actor. You don't walk onto
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: the acting thing and say, yeah, I'm Tony Ayo. I
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: sold coke. You don't do that.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Highlighting the good shit. Music. Of course. But then PSK
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: came out and they was talking about parts. I killed it.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Put my pistol up against his head. Said, suck your ass, nigga.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: I said, ooh. So I come with 6 in the
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: morning and that shit took off. And next thing you know,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I can do this shit all day.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: Talking about this crime shit. So it wasn't called gangster rap. Originally,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: I was like the L.A. player, this, that, and the other.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: But when Cube and them did Straight Outta Compton, Cube said,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Straight Outta Compton, crazy motherfucker named Ice from the gang
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: called Niggas With Attitudes. And the press said it's gangster rap.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, it's gangster rap. Well, then I
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: guess I'm the original gangster. And that's where the OG
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: came from because I had two albums out before they dropped.
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  Speaker 2: Even though Cube and them, they was touring with me,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: they had Dope Man, they had Gangsta Gangsta, and they
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: the Lil Homies and everything. But when they came out,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: it felt like Godzilla just walked over me. Like, God damn. No,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: just N.W. When they dropped that album, that album was like, whoa.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: And at that point, they had the baton and they
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: was off and running. It was like gangsta on steroids then, man.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: But it was love. Yeah, of course. It was love.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: And me being from the West Coast, even though Too
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Short was up North, I was happy. And then Ghetto
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: Boys came out and I was happy. I was like,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: I was seeing the stuff just starting to morph. And
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: like I told 50 back in the day, I think
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: 50 to me was the last gangster rapper. Like he
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: was the last one who... Because my favorite rap group
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: was Mobb Deep. But let's go. Let's go. L.A., Q,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: of course, Pac. I mean, I seen Pac birth. I
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: seen him when he was with Digital Underground and all that.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: So he was the little homie and stuff. So I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: was seeing him and he got, it just happened too
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: fast and too quick, that fame. And of course, Snoop.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: To me, Snoop is... To me, Snoop is the biggest
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: rap star in the world, to me. Fucking everybody knows.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Snoop is in Corona commercials.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Snoop is at the Olympics.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Olympics, Corona commercials.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: You would recognize Snoop before Jay-Z if you wasn't in
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: hip hop.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Overseas, definitely.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: And 50 is well known, but I'm saying it's these
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: certain people. So West Coast would be Q Pop. Snoop,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: those are the big bosses out there that really put,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: and also Cypress Hill. Now out here, I would start
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: with Melly Mel. Melly Mel. Shout out to Melly Mel.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: Melly Mel made us understand that you could rap about
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: other things. When he did The Message, that was like
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: taking rap from parties to issues. And he was the
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: first real rapper, because Sugar Hill Gang was out first,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: but Furious 5 was the first big rap group, and
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Mel was rapping his ass off. Shout out Grandmaster Kaz
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: and them. I met them early in the game. So
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: I'll say him. Then I'll say Chuck D.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Public enemy.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Made us black. Made us proud to be black. And
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: when I seen them in the streets of Brooklyn with
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: Spike Lee and I got to tour a lot with
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: Chuck and that's my brother and I love them. Rakim.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Rakim made us all rap different. Rakim taught niggas how
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: to flow. Like, we all knew how to rap, that
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: nigga knew how to flow. And he would just like,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, God damn, when I hear lyrics of Fury
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: and I heard, you know, things like- Rob Markman And
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: he ain't cursed. Look at, no curses. Rob Markman I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: went on tour with Rakim. My first tour was with,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: it was me, Boogie Down Productions, Biz Markie.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Rest in peace Biz Mark, yes.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Doug E. Fresh, Kumo D, and Eric B.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: and Rakim. And I used to wait at night because
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: he had this laser shit. And he had this one
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: part of the song where he said, the stage is
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: the cage, the mic is the third rail, the lasers
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: will hit the shit and go, whoo, across the crowd.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, yo, that shit is dope. Rob.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Legendary tour shit. This is what I be trying to
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: tell motherfuckers. That's why I love this show, bro.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: But you know what? Those who say don't know and
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: those who know don't say. Niggazit was there. We witnessed
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: it and it was amazing. And like I say, my
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: last one will be Mobb Deep. I think Prodigy was
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: to me my favorite rapper because it was understandable. I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: understood everything he was saying. The slow flow was crazy. Yeah,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: slow flow. I used to always call it. Yeah, the
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: slow flow. But in the danger he put into the rhymes,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: like he just really, you believe that nigga would kill
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: you with a butter knife. Like this nigga was that
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: serious about it. And the cold thing about Mobb Deep
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: is Prodigy and Havoc rap so similar. that sometimes you
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know who's rapping. Like, they both had this same
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: technical flow and the music that went to it. You know,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: the music was... Havoc on the beats, man. Havoc on
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: the beats. Yeah, and Alchemist. Facts. Talk to my boy Alchemist.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: He's got the album with Erykah Badu out right now.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my shit. Like, if I'm going to sit
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: back and I'm going to listen to shit, you know,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: also me technically, like, Certain people's frequency. I like to
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: listen to certain voices because they sound better to me.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: Other people's pitch might. Rap is so particular. You know,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: everybody has their own opinion. Everybody got their own opinion
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: of what they like, their preference. Right. Nobody can fuck
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: with him with what he does. You guys have, everybody
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: has their own shit. We all basketball players. Everybody got
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: their own moves. And, you know. Some people, they need
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: to be authentic. Drake doesn't need to be authentic. He's
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: just a rapper. He's a singer. I like Drake when
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: he sings more. But he's in the game and he's
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: got a crazy following. Kendrick won a Pulitzer Prize. Who
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: does that? You know what I'm saying? You get to pick.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of music. You get to pick who
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: you like. You get to pick who you like. Niggas
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: want to sit back and talk about it like it's sports. Oh,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: I think this nigga got the crossover. The thing of
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: it is, if I walked in here and I said,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: Allen Iverson is my favorite nigga, you agree. This nigga
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: on the, nah. There's always going to be somebody that's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: going to go left. Nah, Jordan, man. Come on, man.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: Jordan the GOAT, man. So it's your opinion. versus who
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: gives a fuck. I like that. That's a good way
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: to end the show. It's our opinion and who gives
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: a fuck about his opinion.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Listen, this is where I like having the legends on
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: the show. It's not microwave music. This guy done did
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: TV shows. Shot his own TV shows. Movies. Music legend.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Classic movies. And we got Criminal Migraine out now. Make
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: sure y'all get that on IceT8. com because he's not streaming.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: The longest running actor on TV right now. Period. The
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: longest current actor on TV right now.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: New Jack City. Ricochet. Newbies with Denzel. You know what
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: OG Network. Oh, I got a network, too. Oh, yeah.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Shout out that network. I got the network. Me and
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Big Kord have a network just like 50. You know,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: I was talking to him about who's my competition. I'm like,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: I got everything 50 got. And he done got a
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: rock band, so I got you, 50. But I got
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: an OG network. Go to theognetwork.net if you want to
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: see 50. Superfly, Willie Dynamite, all the player stuff. You
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: can see my movie, The Art of Rap. You can
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: see whatever you want. It's free. You can get it
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: on your phone. You got the Mac on there too?
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: You got the Mac on there? I got the Mac. Okay,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: all right. Okay, let's go, baby. Today, you go see
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: the Mac. That's right. All the movies, everything. And I
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: own the network from the ground up. We built it
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: to where it can't be taken down. So that's the
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: OG network. And just other shit, man. Things I'm trying
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: to do, man. I think at this point, I'm very
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: happy and satisfied with what happened with my life. I
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: just now just want to try to stay healthy and
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: stay in there, man. I'm not competitive in any kind
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: of way. I think being too competitive is what takes down.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: A lot of us.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: If you're a drug dealer and you're competing with the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: nigga across the street, you're going to take risks that
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: you normally wouldn't take because you are trying to outdo
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: this other person. Just try to outdo yourself. Just try
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: to be better every day. That's all you got to do.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Worrying about the next man and this nigga. Like I said,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: I was in the car, right? I'm in a nice car, right?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: Nigga on the curb was like, nigga, you ain't got
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: no more money than Dr. Dre. And I'm like, nigga,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: you ain't got more need than iced tea. Like, why
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: are you worrying about me? I'm not worrying about Dre. Like,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: now am I going to pull my car over and
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: argue with this nigga on the curb? Look, just outdo yourself, man.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: And those who like you will like you. And those
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: who don't, for whatever weird reason, you know, there's niggas
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: out there. I done had a nice conversation with you.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: There's some niggas out there that still don't fuck with me.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: For whatever weird reason they got, But fuck them. Exactly. Yeah,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: fuck them. Exactly. I'll end it with this. There's no
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: guaranteed way to win, but the guaranteed way to lose
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: is to try to make everybody like you. Figure out
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: who fuck with you and roll with who fuck with you.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: And that's coming from Ice-T, a man that's been in
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: the game. It's hard to stay consistent in this game.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: for over 20 years, 30 years, 10 years. Some of
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: y'all five years. Some of y'all one year. Some of
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: y'all a couple of months. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: So make sure y'all watch this episode. We got the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: legend in the building, Ice-T. Make sure y'all like, share, subscribe,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: and health and happiness to all.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: Swimmin' on my grain out now. Stop playing. Keep it gangsta.