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Home Run Derby Heroics, MLB Midseason Check-In, World Cup Updates · The Craig Way Show

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  Speaker 1: Curious now.
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  Speaker 2: Craig Way, Hello on a Tuesday to you.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to have you with us this afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome so the program here on Sports Radio AM thirteen
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  Speaker 4: hundred the Zone and where you are always always welcome
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  Speaker 3: My name is Craig Way. Glad to have you with us.
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  Speaker 4: Also, please to have the producer of the program, Jay Carman,
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  Speaker 4: alongside busy program for you this afternoon. First off, just
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  Speaker 4: let you and this is going in chronological order here.
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  Speaker 4: We will keep you updated on what's going on with
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  Speaker 4: the first of the two semifinals in the World Cup.
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  Speaker 4: I know it doesn't appeal to everybody, but there are
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  Speaker 4: those who have an interest in it. France and Spain
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  Speaker 4: are playing in the semifinals and they're playing in Arlington
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  Speaker 4: right now, or as they like to say, Dallas Stadium
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  Speaker 4: as Pipa likes to call it, and they are just underway,
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  Speaker 4: so obviously scoreless. They've just started there in Dallas in
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  Speaker 4: the first sem of the second semifinal will be at
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  Speaker 4: this time tomorrow when England takes on Argentina. But France
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  Speaker 4: and Spain are playing right now. We'll keep you updated
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  Speaker 4: on that now Additionally, here's some other things. The Baseball
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  Speaker 4: All Star Game is tonight as we know in Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll kind of have a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: breakdown of that what to look for. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: know it's an All Star game. I will say this
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  Speaker 4: and I continue to say this that as pro sports,
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  Speaker 4: all star games have in large measure measure jumped the
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  Speaker 4: shark for me, doesn't really hold that much into Baseball.
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  Speaker 4: All Star game is the one that most closely resembles
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  Speaker 4: a regular baseball game. Doesn't identically go because of all
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  Speaker 4: the pitching changes. It happens, you know, every inning and
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  Speaker 4: all that. But that's okay because you're still talking about
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  Speaker 4: outstanding level of pitching coming in at every every point.
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  Speaker 4: So so yeah, I'm gonna watch it tonight. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 4: interested in it and watch it and we will uh
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  Speaker 4: kind of get a preview of it, but also mainly
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  Speaker 4: a baseball mid season evaluation from our MLB insider, uh
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  Speaker 4: Gene Watson from the Chicago White Sox front office. That'll
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  Speaker 4: be coming up in the four o'clock hour. So we'll
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  Speaker 4: visit with Gena on the four o'clock hour to talk baseball. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: the All Star game, the home Run Derby last time,
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  Speaker 4: and in kind of a mid season evow and the draft,
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  Speaker 4: because the Baseball Draft has happened.
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  Speaker 3: We know about that.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about some of the Longhorns who went yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll talk more about that as well coming up.
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  Speaker 4: But Gene Watson will join us there in the three
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  Speaker 4: o'clock hour. And I understand if you didn't see this yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: This came down yesterday in the midst of everything that
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  Speaker 4: was going on the run up to the home Run
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  Speaker 4: Derby and previews the World Cup, and you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: football things, and you know one of Jake's favorite pastimes
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  Speaker 4: is to peruse the NBA Summer League. He led us,
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  Speaker 4: by the way no yesterday on the program. He has
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  Speaker 4: what less than zero interest in the summer League? Is
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  Speaker 4: that the deal?
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  Speaker 5: And even less interest in folks watching the games and
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  Speaker 5: declaring players busts or steals.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that. That's ridiculous, that's silly.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you on that.
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  Speaker 6: It's not the same thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's not even as close to regular season NBA as
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  Speaker 5: spring training is to baseball.
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  Speaker 4: No, but you know, you see some things in it.
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  Speaker 4: I saw one thing that pleased me. Yesterday I saw
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  Speaker 4: the former longword Jason Kent have a good game for Portland,
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  Speaker 4: and you think for men.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Kent, Jason Kent, when do you go, oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It was a couple of years ago he was he
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  Speaker 4: was playing when Rodney Terry was coaching and all. Jason
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  Speaker 4: Kent wasn't even in organized basketball last year, wasn't even
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  Speaker 4: in the G League. And so for him to get
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity and show what he could do, I thought
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  Speaker 4: that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: How about what Arthur Khaluma did a couple of days
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  Speaker 5: ago with the Lakers.
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  Speaker 4: There's another guy. That's another guy that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So so yeah, it's there. You see things
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  Speaker 4: in glimpses, not just as it relates to guys you
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  Speaker 4: know or the team you follow or whatever. He's just
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  Speaker 4: there's other interesting things that come out of the Summer
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  Speaker 4: League that you might not certainly probably wouldn't see, at
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  Speaker 4: least not in large measure at the largest level in
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  Speaker 4: the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: But there's that.
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  Speaker 4: But yesterday, speaking of basketball, yesterday, there was some information
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  Speaker 4: that came down from the NCAA about the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
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  Speaker 4: And we've already seen, you know, quite a bit happen
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  Speaker 4: with you know what's going to happen with the expansion
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  Speaker 4: of the tournament field of seventy six, and it's got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people all up at arms about that.
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  Speaker 4: Others like it, Others couldn't care, so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that in the final analysis, it's going
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  Speaker 4: to make a great difference in terms of the cream
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  Speaker 4: rising to the top. It's going to give some more
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  Speaker 4: teams some opportunities to get into it. That's not what
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  Speaker 4: yesterday's anouncement was about. We already know about that, both
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  Speaker 4: of the men and men's tournament, and with the women's tournament.
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  Speaker 4: Now they did have an announcement with regard to the
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  Speaker 4: women's tournament, and it's with regard to seating and that
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  Speaker 4: there's going to be a change made. Whereas we've seen
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  Speaker 4: on the men's side and the women's side through last year,
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  Speaker 4: in their efforts to balance the bracket and make the
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  Speaker 4: regionals as competitive as possible, sometimes the top sixteen teams.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, I don't think it's ever happened that the
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  Speaker 4: top sixteen teams were all placed.
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  Speaker 3: In one region.
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  Speaker 4: That hadn't happened according to the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament Committee,
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  Speaker 4: that is going to happen. They're going to make that
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  Speaker 4: change for the coming season that they're going to put
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  Speaker 4: you seated in the regional that you should be based
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  Speaker 4: on your seating. So I got to thinking about it,
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  Speaker 4: and I texted Vic Schaeffer last night, the Texas women's
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  Speaker 4: head coach, and said, Hey, you got any thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 4: And he said yeah, I got some thoughts on him,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, we did, care to pop on and
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  Speaker 4: share them with us tomorrow? He said sure, So Vic Shaefer,
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  Speaker 4: the Texas women's head coach, will be well, we'll check
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  Speaker 4: with him about not just about that, uh, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: we'll ask about, you know, the off season work that's
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  Speaker 4: going on, the new look that his roster will have,
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  Speaker 4: things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll visit with Vic Shaffer to talk some things
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 4: I woke up Monday morning yesterday morning and didn't have it,
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  Speaker 4: So from overnight sometimes Sunday night, two, three in the morning,
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  Speaker 4: all the way up until around ten o'clock last night.
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  Speaker 4: this morning, something like that.
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  Speaker 6: So Craig, I was thinking about this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it happened on the one night that the only
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  Speaker 6: That's right, So you're really in a sports.
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  Speaker 4: I had no shot at all to watch the home
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  Speaker 4: run derby, none at all.
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  Speaker 5: You probably haven't been in that big of a sports
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  Speaker 5: desert and for most of.
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  Speaker 4: Your life unless I was, you know, by design out
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  Speaker 4: somewhere right, and I did, so, Yeah, I was without it.
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  Speaker 6: You were stranded, but I.
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  Speaker 4: Did see all the highlights. This morning, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about that. We're going to hear from the two
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  Speaker 4: finalists who got there. So we'll we'll we'll do all
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  Speaker 4: of that coming up, and like I said, we'll take
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  Speaker 4: Run derby coming up next, and we got a lot
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  Speaker 7: It's the craig Way Show with the voice of the
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  Speaker 7: Texas Longhorns and Hall of Fame Broadcasting Craig Way.
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  Speaker 3: It's at tax Tuesday year on sports Radio AM thirteen
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  Speaker 4: In the four o'clock hour, we'll have included in our
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  Speaker 3: The crossfire.
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  Speaker 8: There.
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  Speaker 6: Indeed we are, and we got the studio version today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Santa Maria from Matt Veskersion bringing us back there too.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was.
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  Speaker 4: And first of all, before we get back to the
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  Speaker 4: baseball update, still scoreless friends in Spain. They played twenty
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  Speaker 4: minutes so far there in Arlington in the World Cup
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  Speaker 4: Summerfinal there, so they are scoreless twenty minutes in this
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  Speaker 4: twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 6: Could have probably been an email.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, one good chance Spain had a free kick wasted,
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  Speaker 5: It blasted right into the wall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this is in the stage where they say
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  Speaker 4: the teams are feeling it, feeling each other out and
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  Speaker 4: feel for.
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  Speaker 6: An early goal may open things up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hadn't happened yet.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So yeah, that was Matt pass Gershon on the
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  Speaker 4: call of Jordan Walker's home run to win the home
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  Speaker 4: run derby. Now to kind of set the scene for
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  Speaker 4: you a little bit yesterday on the show, Jake was
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  Speaker 4: thinking that it was probably going to be Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 4: winning it in his home ballpark for the second time
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  Speaker 4: in his career, telling anybody's ever done that since he
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  Speaker 4: did it when he played for your Washington Nationals.
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  Speaker 3: But he got knocked out the first round? Did he
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  Speaker 3: he did?
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  Speaker 6: He missed the he missed the he missed the cut.
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  Speaker 5: It was gonna be one Philly through in one Philly
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  Speaker 5: out because Bryce was last and Kyle Schwarber was the
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  Speaker 5: fourth qualifying score to get through to the semis. So
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  Speaker 5: it was a bittersweet moment there for the crowd, and
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  Speaker 5: for a few minutes I thought I had simply picked
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  Speaker 5: the wrong Philly because Schwarber, who was.
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  Speaker 4: Runner up to Harper, he was the guy who I picked,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought he might win. Uh And it looked
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  Speaker 4: like he might because Schwarmer beat Wilson Contreras in the
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  Speaker 4: semifinals and UH and then the Cardinals youngster Jordan Walker
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  Speaker 4: UH managed to get past Junior Camaniero, who was really
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  Speaker 4: the popular pick of a lot of folks, including a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the panelists we had talked about yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: He was he was definitely.
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  Speaker 4: You know, on the list, a lot of people thought
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  Speaker 4: it might happen, and but it was. It was really
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  Speaker 4: weird that, you know, Harper got eliminated in the first round.
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  Speaker 3: He only hit eight home runs.
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  Speaker 4: Jack Cagnown was another guy that was a popular choice.
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  Speaker 4: He only hit eight Minnitokomura Comi a popular choice only
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  Speaker 4: at nine.
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  Speaker 5: They were nine majestic backspun, high arching beauties.
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  Speaker 6: I enjoyed Murra Commi's round.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just didn't have enough of them. So so then
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  Speaker 4: then they were they were really getting down to the
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  Speaker 4: semifinals and then to the finals, and the Philadelphia crowd
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  Speaker 4: apparently was just going ballistic, right.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there was.
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  Speaker 5: If you weren't Kyle Schwarber or Bryce Harper, you were
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  Speaker 5: getting booed.
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  Speaker 6: If you dropped the ball in the outfield, you got booed.
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  Speaker 5: If you stepped up and hit a bunch of home
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  Speaker 5: runs and celebrated, you weren't wearing a Phillies uniform, you
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  Speaker 5: got booed.
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  Speaker 6: It was a little much on the booing, but it
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  Speaker 6: made for a really fun atmosphere.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, update, Spain has just scored.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, as a penalty is a clumsy penalty conceded by
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  Speaker 5: Spain or conceded by friends. Lam and Jamal drew it
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  Speaker 5: on a ball that was right at the corner of
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  Speaker 5: the box. French defender was trying to roundhouse clear it
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  Speaker 5: and instead he kicked Lamal Jamal right in the hip.
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  Speaker 6: Gave up a penalty right in the box.
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  Speaker 3: Not a good thing.
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  Speaker 4: Spain gets the penalty and they have the early one
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  Speaker 4: nill lead as they near the first hydration break.
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  Speaker 3: Of the match.
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  Speaker 4: So it'll be coming up in a little bit, but
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  Speaker 4: it's one nill right now, Spain on top of right.
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  Speaker 4: So back to this home run derby the new it
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  Speaker 4: was a new format. In case you didn't here, there
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  Speaker 4: were twenty untimed swings because that had been an unpopular
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  Speaker 4: thing in the past, being on the clock, and there
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  Speaker 4: were a lot of people that not like that. Thought
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  Speaker 4: guys were rushed and they were overswinging and things like
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  Speaker 4: that because of what was happening with the clock.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you'd see round sort of play out
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  Speaker 5: the string where you knew a guy was not going
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  Speaker 5: to advance and he saw frustration with it. This was
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  Speaker 5: also great to have the clock be eliminated because fans
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: got to admire these home runs yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Didn't have to happen bam bam, bam, rapid fire. So
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: what it did was it allowed for twenty untimed swings
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: in the first round, fifteen in the semifinals, and fifteen
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: in the final. Now you mentioned Majestic Blast. Caminea had
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: a four hundred ninety one foot shot in the first round.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: That was the longest home run of the night, nobody
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: top five hundred feet. It landed one foot further than
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Wilson Contrera's longest, which was four hundred and ninety feet,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: also in the first round at that point. So then
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: then I mentioned that Schwarber beat Contreras in the semifinals,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Walker knocked out Cavian Arrow. So now it was down
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: to those two and the place was going crazy, obviously
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: for Kyle Schwarber because this was going to be the
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: third time. It was going to be the charm because
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: he'd gotten close in the past, I think, didn't he
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: He lose two years ago to taoscar Hernandez of the Dodgers,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: right if I remember correct.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: And then before that was the one we talked about
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: from twenty eighteen in DC.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Right exactly. So So anyway they got into it, they
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: start the final round and Schwarber hit what was it eleven,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: and Walker was standing at what six at that point?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: All right, so it got down to his last falling.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Because here was the other rule when you were when
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: you get down to your last swing, you get to
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: keep swinging. As long as you hit one out, you
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: may be down to one. It's kind of like in
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: challenges one challenge. As long as you keep winning the challenge,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you hold the challenge.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Can we do this in the three point contest?
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be good. You'd see him get on
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a roll. So he was still down I think eleven
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: eight at that point, he was down three to Schwarber.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Was Jordan Walker down three and he had three He
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: had to come up with three and he was down
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: in one swing. So bam, HiT's one out for nine, Bam,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: another one for ten, Bam. He ties it at eleven
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: and then he hits a four hundred and seven foot
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: blash to left to win it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: He's he's making this season seven hundred ninety nine thousand,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: four hundred dollars. That's his salary. And I know to
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: me and you and lots of people, that's a lot
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: of money in the baseball world. That's peanuts. That's the
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: bottom of the barrel. Seven ninety nine, four hundred. He
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: got a million bucks for winning it last night, so
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: that was a good story.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: It did kind of.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Ruin the evening for the Philadelphia fans who wanted to
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: see Schwarber win it. But Jordan Walker the same those
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Cardinals wins it. And he was asking is is he
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: got into that last round and there was the pressure
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: of what he was going to do. How could he
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: do it? How could he hit three consecutives and tie?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: And then he hit another one to win it. So
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: he was asked what was he thinking about at the
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: time to help him with the pressure.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly the pressure.
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: You know, people ballooning me.
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: And one thought it was just like to say, fluid,
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: you can't swing too hard. And I missed the ball
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: and that was it. And Ksey did an unbelievable job
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: just throwing money BP the whole time.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: So he props h k t is his batting practice pitcher,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Kleininger Tehran is that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's his bullpen catcher. And they've been they've been
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: together for all three years of Walker's.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Big league career.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, Wow, amazing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: Walker always Uh yeah, Well you'll hear it a little
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: later on.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: If we get to it. Yeah, yeah, and we will.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: We'll hear from him talking about Clinetger Turan a little
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: bit bit later on. Meanwhile, Schwarber was asked about out
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: what Walker did, how he pulled that off and when
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: it got down to the last swing and he's still
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: up three, did you think he had it one?
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: Man?
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: That was impressive.
• 23:11
  Speaker 11: I mean I didn't didn't ever think I had it
• 23:13
  Speaker 11: one because I know anything can happen, especially when it
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: gets sounded that last ball right, uh, and you know
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: the big the big one was that you know, the
• 23:22
  Speaker 11: ball hits the top of the wall there and it
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: s knuck over and I was like, oh, that one's
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: not good for us.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: And and then.
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: Obviously you get to the last ball that he's got
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: to go three to tie I think, or it was
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: three to tire, three to win, and three to tie,
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: and he went forth to win.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: And you tip your hat to him. I mean he
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: was able to.
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: I was saying, they were willing against him pretty much
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: to distract and whatever it is to try to will
• 23:46
  Speaker 11: that ball not to go over the fence. And he
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: was able to slow it down and be in the
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: moment there, and he was able to get the job done,
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: and he was hitting some laser beams like I was like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 11: dang man, I'm hitting these high fly balls and these
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: guys are hitting the little laser beams out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: But it was really impressive what he was able to do.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, indeed, so Jordan Walker. How many of you
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: had Jordan Walker winning it?
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: Put your hands down.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I asked the same thing two years ago about Tayoscar
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: and Nanidis Ornandez.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: How many of you have Tayo winning it? You're lying
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: if you did. I'm a Dodger fan and I did
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: not expect.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Tayo to win it any wanted. So yeah, yeah, you
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: know that's not the yeah, but that happens in this thing,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the home run derby. You do get some unexpected winners.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Now you get expected winners like a cal Raley. You know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: people thought, you know, the big dumper could do it,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and he did, and Pete Alonzo's wanted what three times?
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I think Ken Griffy Junior multiple times in the past,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: there have been guys who were really really good at
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: it that could crush it and knock the ball out
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and Jordan Walker is an extremely talented player. Got a
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: chance to see him and playing in Saint Louis a
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago when I was on vacation. But
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know the anybody thought he would win the
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: home run derby. Put it this way, I neither read
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: nor heard one prediction of him winning it. Yeah, there
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: were too many other popular predictions, whether it be Schwarber
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: or Harper or camin Arrow. Even Ben Rice, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: was was, you know, a popular choice by a lot
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: of people.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: He struggled a little bit.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: And Jordan Walker was one of the longest odds to win.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Coming in He had eight to one odds depending on
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: where you looked. Only Ben Rice and Wilson Contreras.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Had longer odds.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Was that according to fan Duel.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: According to CBS Sports. And then I'm sure they're getting
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: their odds from somewhere.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, from the boys in the desert. You know, I'd
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: you like to be one of those guys you set
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: the odds for the home run derby. Of course, there's
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: lots of weird prop bets and things like that that happened,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: and of course, and there'll be prop bets for Tonight's
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: All Star Game as well. Who scores the first run,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: who hits who hits the first home run, Who scores
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: what proves to be the winning run. I think I
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: saw a prop bet who commits the first error?
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: So this is the weekend where you learn who's got
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: the gambling problem?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: You know, like the guy that apparently took his cue
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: from Bryce Harper off the off the cameo video and
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: got all kinds of invites from draft Kings and went
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: ahead and did it and developed a gambling problem with
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: a two million dollar debt. Now he's suing them, saying,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: you guys provided a gateway drug.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: For me, you know, in terms of gambling. That was
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the story we had yesterday.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: All Right, it is one nil Spain still leading France
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: in that World Cup semifinal and was on a penalty kick.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: They are now about to be in their thirty third
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: minute to play there in Arlington. That's the first of
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: the two semifinals. The second one is tomorrow and that's
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: England and Argentina, and then the weekend in the World Cup,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: they do what's not done in any other major professional sport,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: and that is they have a third place game. They
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: played for third, and I remember I had an anniversary
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: of a Facebook post come up and it was like
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: from twenty what was a twenty eighteen and I talked
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: about I think it was Germany against the Netherlands. Anyway,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: it was a third place match, and I said, Americans
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: are rolling their eyes over this kind of thing because
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the third place game went the way of the dinosaur
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: they used to have in the NCAA Basketball tournament all
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: the way up through eighty one. They said, the thing
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: that really killed it off. But there had been some
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: there had been a lot of adverse reaction to playing
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: the third place game in the NCAA Basketball Tournament in
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: the final four.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: For years.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: It had its moments to this day. The record for
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: the most point scored in a final four game was
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: done by Bill Bradley, later of the New York Knicks
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: and the Senator. Bill Bradley, who for Princeton in nineteen
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: sixty five scored fifty eight points against Wichita State. It
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: was in the third place game, the third but it
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: counts as a final four game in the NCAA record books,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: So he scored fifty eight. That was in a third
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: place game when I was thirteen. My dad had tickets
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: to the nineteen seventy four Final four in Greensboro.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: He didn't take me.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I wanted him to take me, but he knew that
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: NC State was in it. I was a Carolina fan.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: He goes, you don't even care about state here at Caroline.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: He was gonna take his brother anyway, my uncle. It
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: made sense. So that third place game that was played
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: before the championship was UCLA against Kansas. UCLA had won
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: seven straight national titles, but they got beat in double
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: overtime in the semifinals by North Carolina State with David
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Thompson and Tom Burlison and that great team that went
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: on to beat Marquette to win the national championship. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: you know a lot of people thought that UCLA streak
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: ended with a lost n C State.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: In the national championship.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Wasn't the National Championships in the semifinals, So n C
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: State would go on to play Marquette for the national title.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: UCLA had to play the third place game and Bill
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Walton almost boycotted it. He almost said I'm not going
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: to play. He ended up playing Ucla. I think he
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: ended up winning the game. Say the different stories surrounding
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: these third place games, and so they get down in
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty one and it's going to be North Carolina
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: against Indiana National Championship in Philadelphia. Isaiah Thomas is playing
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: for Indiana in that and they had both won their
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: semifinal games. North Carolina had beaten Virginia and Ralph Sampson
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: was like the fourth time they played that year in
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: one semifinal. Indiana beat LSU in the other semifinal, so
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: LSU has to play Virginia in the third place game.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: That day was marked by another occasion, the assassination attempt
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: of President Reagan. He was shot by John Hinckley Junior
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and recovered in surgery, but he was shot. So there
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: was a lot of questions about whether to even play
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the National championship game that night, and ultimately the decision
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: was made that they would play. Ward had come the
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: President was out of dangers in recovery and he said, yes,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: they should play the game. Well, if they're going to
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: play the champion, that means they have to play the
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: third place game, which was Indiana and LSU. And people
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: are thinking, if you think a national championship game would
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: be meaningless on a day like this, what do you
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: think a third place game with me? So they asked,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I think it was Rudy Macklin of LSU after the game,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: do you think you should have played this game given
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: what happened? And Macklin gave the response that they said.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: If there was any one comment that killed off the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: third place game, it was Rudy Macklin's comment. When they
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: said do you think you should have played a third
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: place game on the day that the president was shot?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: He said why not? He ain't.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: No kin of mine was the actual line. Third place
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: game was gone after that year, did not return. But
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: they do play it in the World Cup. They do
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: play the they do play the World the third place
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: and from what I understand that it's a completely different mindset.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: It's kind of almost like playing an Olympic matchup. There
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: are salary incentives for those players on those national teams
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: if it's a win, if they play well, if they
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: score so there's all kinds of other incentives to play
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: that third place match that'll happen on Saturday, and then
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: of course it clears the.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Stage for the World Cup final on Sunday, and we'll
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: see you, I would say, this.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: If it's England and France in the third place game,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: it'll have some intrigue if it's just like it would
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: be if it was England and France in the championship.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: But right now, Spain's up on France and England would
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: still have to beat Argentina.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Well, and I'll sell you Argentina being in the third
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: place game would have intrigue. It's Messi's potential last time
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: on the World Cup stage. The Golden Boot race would
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: be decided in that game.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, could be Harry Kane's final match on the stage
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: for England, who knows. And Bobby's going to be around
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: a while and he's gonna be all time leading scorer
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: in World Cup history before his career is done. In fact,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: he's pretty close to it now, but he'll be the
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: all time score when it happens. All right again, it's
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: one nil Spain on of France. Up next, we bring
• 33:01
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• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Way alongside the producer Jay Kerrman.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: We'll with you up until five o'clock this afternoon.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Coming up in a few minutes, we'll visit with Texas
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: women's basketball head coach Vick Schaeffer. Talk to him about
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the off season, where his team's going on, the new
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: faces on the team.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: And then also this updated format change.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I guess it's the best way to describe it, at
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: least in term of the seating change for the NCAA
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Women's Tournament, which goes into effect next year. This just
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: came down yesterday, so we get his thoughts on that
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: and some other topics as well. Four o'clock hour Gene Watson,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: our MLB Inside It from the Chicago White Sox front
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: office joins this mid season eval so evaluating the the
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Major League Baseball season to this point and also a
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: look at the All Star Game and look back at
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: the Major League Draft as well. So we'll have that
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: coming up in a few minutes.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: During the break, I got a text from good friend
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Brett Mangold. He is a pretty well known restaurant tour
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: restaurant man in the restaurant management business here in the
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Greater Rosston area. He's he's the commissioner my Fantasy Football
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: league too. Oh okay, he's he plays, he has several
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: teams in several different types of leagues, kind of like
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: you do.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Sounds like me. I've had Dynasty drafts all week.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he's always basically that sort of thing
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: and has done a fabulous job as our commissioner for
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: like the last twenty years.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I guess it is something like that.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: But anyway, he heard me say that, Man, I may
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: change my fantasy football team name to the Green Pit Vipers,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: the poisonous snakes that have gotten loose in China. My
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: fantasy football team name since like nineteen ninety nine has
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: been the Wampascats, which is like Itasca, Texas, which I
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: always said was the quintessential high school football mascot name
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: is Itaska? The Wampascats. Hopefully they'll have a better season.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: So they had the fourth of their last four games.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: The year they didn't have enough players to field a
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: team and there were a two eighteen and eleven man school,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: but they'd had injuries and other issues and so they
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: ended up having it. They went winless last year, so
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: hopefully it'll be a new year for the Wampascats. Well,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I had I had a game last year and did
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: some bad luck where in our scoring rules when a
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: couple of unique scoring rules, but in our league, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know how this is that prevalent in other
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: rules but other leagues. But on a two point conversion pass,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: so I got quarterback throws to a guy and the end.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: So for the scoring, how was that scored in your league?
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: In our league it is two points for the guy
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: who called for the guy who caught it in the quarterback.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Who threw it, he also gets too. He also gets two. Okay,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: in our league the quarterback gets one, which.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Is more accurate because you're forgetting four for a touchdown.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Las two point conversion should be one.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Right, except that the algorithm didn't catch it and it
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: was too late and all this stuff. And I ended
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: up losing a game by one point as a result
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: of that, because I would have won on the tiebreaker,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: which was the total number of the points by your reserves.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: So what do you do? What is you put it
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: on the commissioner's desk?
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: He he, being proactive as he was, contacted me the
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: next morning and started off with apologies and said, hey, look,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: this wasn't caught in advance and we can't correct it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm just calling to tell y'all, well, what platform
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: are you guys using CBS? Oh there, you see, there's
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: your problem.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know, so anyway we got so I
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: got hosed on it and it wound up costing me.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I think it made the playoffs, but it was like
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: the sixth seed. I barely got in and I got
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: knocked out in the first round or something like. It
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: was the difference between being the sixth seed and the
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: three seat, because I think I would have won my
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: division or something like that. I don't remember that part
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: of it. But anyway, he said, he's the point of
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: all this is that he said, hey, maybe it'll bring
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: you some new luck the green Pit Vipers. I said, yeah,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: maybe it'll get me a point on the two point Converton.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: We're about to shay.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So being a commissioner could be a thankless job.
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah it is.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: And he doesn't faulous job on that, and I you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: it was what it was. Sometimes things just don't work
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: out for you, you know it. It was unfortunate. It happened,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: and we all learned and he fixed it. He corrected
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: it from that point on the rest of the season.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: It didn't.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: It did not factor in any other results the rest
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: of the way, because you know, you wouldn't want that
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: to happen. It's like that that story I told about
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Cheechi Rodriguez playing in the Legends of Golf, and Bill
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Schoening told this story because Bill Schoning saw this with
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: his own eyes. The Chee Chee was out on like
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: number seven or number eight or whatever it was. He
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: was hitting a shot there at Barton Creek at the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Legends of Golf and hit a shot that was going
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: to fly off the green and it hit a rake
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: on the butt and ricocheted back onto within like eighteen
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: inches of the company taps in for the birdie, and
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: when he recapped his round, he said, blah blah blah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I made a short putt for birdie, and he just
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: went on. So they take questions and Bill raises his
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: hand and says, hey, I was stationed by the green
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: and I saw what happened. Can you can I get
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: your thoughts on what happened? So he looks at he
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: looks at Bill Schoning's tag and the media credential says
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Bill On. He goes, well, let me tell you something, Bill,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: He said, I was the goal. I hit the three
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: out of the side to hit the four, and I
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: decided to hit the three. I hit the three iron,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: it hit the rake and it bounce back in. So
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: you know what I did when I got up there,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: moved that rate because I would never want that to
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: happen to anybody else. The great Chee Chee Rodriguez. All right,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: coming up, speaking of greatness, always one of our favorites
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: to visit with Big Shaffer, Texas women's hit basketball coach.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Next when we continue on thirteen under the Zone.
• 39:18
  Speaker 12: And Rick gre is just memory written on my brown
• 39:23
  Speaker 12: and there's nothing I can do about it now.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: As we always mentioned that in the three o'clock hour,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: one of our return cuts is from a true Texas legend,
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: and Willie Nelson, nothing I can do about it now.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: That particular offering establishing his own mark certainly is a
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: legend in this state. Is in the native Texan from
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: the greater Houston area, and of course what he's doing
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: with the Texas women's basketball team back to back trips
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: to the Final four. Vick Schaeffer joins us on the
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: hotline right now, Hey, Vick, I appreciate you doing this.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I want to start off by asking question I've never
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: asked you before, but always wanted to ask you. I'm
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: sitting here and I'm sipping on somebody's tea, and I
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: always remember the when you had were talking about making
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: a reference to something, and then a reference would come
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: up to if I remember the quote, my mama's sweet tea. Uh,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: what made your mom sweet tea so good?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks again for having me on today. Yeah, I
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: see my stuff right now.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: You know mom.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: What made her tea so because she she.
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: We made it with real sugar and we didn't.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Have twishing near his back.
• 40:45
  Speaker 13: I can remember my dad sitting at the table putting
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: that thing sugar.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And see and he looked, and this was back when.
• 40:53
  Speaker 13: You know, there's a big about it causes cancer and right,
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: but he look at me and he got I'm a
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: little to me with these packages of pink sugar, I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 13: putting my tea.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: But he said, you're you better use that real sugar.
• 41:12
  Speaker 13: Of course, I was turning calories back then when I was,
• 41:17
  Speaker 13: you know, as fast as I could blink my eyes.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: If the sugar wasn't gonna catch up to me or hurt. Uh.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And so that's technically.
• 41:26
  Speaker 13: Really what we haven't talked about lemonade Mama now was
• 41:33
  Speaker 13: real liminade. She would squeeze a half wmon at water
• 41:39
  Speaker 13: and then put sugar.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you.
• 41:43
  Speaker 13: That my bis manny right there doing stuff.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I love some really good lemonade.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, I love good lemonade. We haven't had
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: a chance a while, so I wanted to give it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: First of all, I'm to give you a chance to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: update everybody on how the off season work is going
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: for your group, uh and and what you're expecting and
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: liking what you're seeing from your newbies, both your transfers
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: and and your freshman. So let me get an overview
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: from you first on what you're seeing from your group
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: in your off in their off season work.
• 42:25
  Speaker 13: They've been great, love every one of them. They are
• 42:28
  Speaker 13: just they work so hard and we've had great image
• 42:32
  Speaker 13: to them every day that working there.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: You know they're working hard.
• 42:39
  Speaker 13: Brandon really doing a good job in there, so uh man,
• 42:44
  Speaker 13: I just.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Love seeing them every day. We've got a great mix
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: of a couple of seniors, a couple of juniors.
• 42:51
  Speaker 13: And uh the Sposh and of.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Course playing for their Ireland team right now. Several grades.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Is doing an internship right now, mister and so.
• 43:06
  Speaker 13: Here this month, and so she's kind of been doing that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 13: She went back home for PAGRAM overseas. She won't she
• 43:21
  Speaker 13: won't see him once season start. So we kind of
• 43:23
  Speaker 13: made that agreement with her when when when we signed her,
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: that would be no problem to go back home and
• 43:29
  Speaker 13: have a chance to spend some time with family.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And so she's there. And but we've had some some
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: really really good good time in the gym and in
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the weight room.
• 43:39
  Speaker 13: But I'm excited about all of them. You know, they've
• 43:43
  Speaker 13: all really been been good.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Again, those freshmen are so.
• 43:50
  Speaker 13: Uh. Zion and Jada have been great additions of the
• 43:55
  Speaker 13: two that we got out of the board.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Our returners have done a great job, you know, showing
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: them what we do and how we do it and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: setting the poem. So I really belie everybody.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Let me start with with the two you mentioned, Zia
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Man and Jada Bettioco coming through the portals.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Zia.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: For folks who have watched her team play and watched
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: SEC and even prior to that big Felt basketball, they've
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: seen Zion when she played for the Oklahoma Sooners.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: What is it that that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: You like about her game once she got into the
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: portal and uh and had your interest there and and
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: what she brings to the party for you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 13: Anytime you get a kid that averaged up in the CC,
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: you know, you you that gets your attention.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I think the thing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: She really has a hard position that we haven't had
• 44:47
  Speaker 13: is she exist percentage out there and revels, but she
• 44:53
  Speaker 13: rebounds it because of the boards. She averaged four rebounds
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: a game and you know that extra peace out there
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: to really uh enhance what we on the boards and
• 45:06
  Speaker 13: so uh you know again little trophy advantage.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: She can really shoot.
• 45:14
  Speaker 13: Uh but again the pat she's got a great mid
• 45:18
  Speaker 13: range as well, and so uh and Jesus, I really
• 45:24
  Speaker 13: enjoy her personality who she is, and of course she
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: works really hard too.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And then Jada, Jada, she see some.
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: Really good days for us, and uh again you just
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: you see, remember I wish I had that kid for
• 45:40
  Speaker 13: three or four years. And but Jada has been good,
• 45:44
  Speaker 13: working really hard with with let's see at the post
• 45:49
  Speaker 13: and uh try mid days with our trying to build some.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Again not getting too common.
• 45:57
  Speaker 13: I've never been uh uh, I've never been a person
• 46:03
  Speaker 13: that I want you to have a bunch of different moves.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I want you to have. If I come to you,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I call the number game.
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: I want to know that you're gonna be able to
• 46:11
  Speaker 13: deliver whatever that move is. I can care less and really.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Moves.
• 46:19
  Speaker 13: I just want to I want to move, and I
• 46:22
  Speaker 13: want to counter you know, the tic.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Move away, then you've got to counteract. That's really to me.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: The Dame can get real complicated, if that makes sense.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: You know one thing I found interesting and Jada originally
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: being from Brampton, Ontario, which for folks who don't know,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: that's in the Toronto area. That area has produced some
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: outstanding basketball talent for both men's and when I remember
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Tristan Thompson was from there, Corey Joseph they had said
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: several ways on the men's side, and there's been some
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: really good players on both the men's and women's side
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: that have come from up that area. What do you
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: think that is about that Brampton and Toronto, Ontario area
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: that produces such good basketball talent.
• 47:09
  Speaker 13: Yeah? You know what two brothers right now that are
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: in the in the soccer league.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Guy, so right, uh, you know that in that part
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: of the country world, You know, there's there's.
• 47:27
  Speaker 13: Up middle coaches that these kids, you know when they're
• 47:32
  Speaker 13: young and.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Do a great job or trainers.
• 47:39
  Speaker 13: You know in that part of the You know, that's
• 47:42
  Speaker 13: a big thing in Canada, and so you know a
• 47:49
  Speaker 13: lot of attention that want to play baskets of bars
• 47:52
  Speaker 13: football players in the CNOL Canadian Football League. That's necessarily
• 48:04
  Speaker 13: for even collegiate.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Absolutely visiting with big shape here.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Let me let me get your thoughts on your freshmen
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: and the and and the progress they made and those
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: who are coming through the challenges not only being a
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: freshman some of course when you come through coming office season,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: if they had an injury or a medical procedure or
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: anything like that, the.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Things that all roll into.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: What a freshman has to accomplish and tries to get through.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Let me start with Amelia Holding and get your your
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: thoughts on your freshman from Newport, California.
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so, I'm Alia had a great post high school seasons,
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: got a.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Great high school season. Then she won just about award
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: for every event she was in.
• 48:53
  Speaker 13: And you know she's host to the Mama kids. Uh
• 48:59
  Speaker 13: and you know so uh the boy of the kids
• 49:04
  Speaker 13: can really shoot it. She's a basketball player like she's
• 49:07
  Speaker 13: really smart.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: She said, competitor.
• 49:10
  Speaker 13: You know, that's really a competitive kid. She just looked
• 49:16
  Speaker 13: really really good. Again, love her competitive. She's a basketball
• 49:22
  Speaker 13: player like all the little kids can just they know
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: the game. They didn't coached a little bit.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: They're all hotly killed. And so I'm uh it was yesterday.
• 49:34
  Speaker 13: I don't know if she missed a shot for and uh,
• 49:38
  Speaker 13: it's really lit it up.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: And that's been that way we've gone.
• 49:43
  Speaker 13: Now we're in our fifth week. She gets veteran veteration
• 49:47
  Speaker 13: every day.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Wow, how about Lizzie's fate.
• 49:52
  Speaker 13: So Lizzie, uh again and just another both those kids
• 49:57
  Speaker 13: turned back on the same AAU team.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Uh and uh.
• 50:05
  Speaker 13: Uh u y b l e u yse of the
• 50:08
  Speaker 13: weekend and uh.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Coach and he's so prob.
• 50:14
  Speaker 13: He was asking about him and so, uh, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 13: those kids are really special and and Losey didn't unbelievable.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I mean again, just there they're just jim rats. You know,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: they're always.
• 50:30
  Speaker 13: You know, we can shoot with him again because of
• 50:33
  Speaker 13: time constraints, sometimes we can't. Something you can't, but when
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: we can't, they're still here. And so you've got to
• 50:41
  Speaker 13: love that about him.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And you know Lousey's sten really good.
• 50:47
  Speaker 13: Uh again just a faller, loves to play, super competitive.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, so that's a good tummer as well.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Uh you were talking about the international players earlier. Uh
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: that is he a tot, I guess if I'm renouncing
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: correctly from Luxembourg. But but played an iron g academy
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: about her.
• 51:06
  Speaker 13: Yeah, man, probody already, Uh, real physical kid, aggressive love
• 51:16
  Speaker 13: and she's gonna be great for us.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 51:18
  Speaker 13: I expect her to have a really good freshman year
• 51:22
  Speaker 13: just because she's body already.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: She's physical still too.
• 51:30
  Speaker 13: And uh and uh she spend a little time with
• 51:37
  Speaker 13: family before the school starts, you know, so uh, she
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: didn't really want to leave, and uh, man, I didn't
• 51:45
  Speaker 13: want her to leave either, even though I'd agree with
• 51:47
  Speaker 13: a lot of back and uh, she's just she could
• 51:51
  Speaker 13: see she was getting better work.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Super competitive again.
• 51:57
  Speaker 13: Just these kids are many, they.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: They seek competitious.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: It's good to and and we already VIC started to
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: find out a bit about Brandon Crittenden and Addison Bjorny
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: even even before last season ended, once they committed and
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: signed and things of that nature, and all those national accolades.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: But what have you seen from those two in terms
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: of their preparedness for their freshman campaign.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh.
• 52:30
  Speaker 13: It is gonna be a monster. She reminds me so
• 52:34
  Speaker 13: much of a young lady. Uh Rakia jack Broke now long,
• 52:44
  Speaker 13: great frame and shooting degree and take you off the
• 52:48
  Speaker 13: bounce a mid range but just a big, long, long guard.
• 52:55
  Speaker 13: She's you can player, you know, probably three spots for
• 53:02
  Speaker 13: if you had to. But you know he's just really skilled.
• 53:05
  Speaker 13: But man, you can't get to her, you know when
• 53:08
  Speaker 13: she takes both the bounce and goes to the rim,
• 53:11
  Speaker 13: like you can't get to her. And you know, she
• 53:15
  Speaker 13: just she's got guard skills in a six three frame
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: and it ain't a skinny frame. It's a it's a
• 53:22
  Speaker 13: it's a great frame. And so Brie, it's just a
• 53:26
  Speaker 13: great kid man, as all these kids are, just a
• 53:30
  Speaker 13: wonderful young lady and just works her tail off. And
• 53:34
  Speaker 13: again she'r mind. You know when you're recruiting, when you
• 53:38
  Speaker 13: see kids play and you've done that, there's always somebody
• 53:42
  Speaker 13: that somebody reminds you of. Right and uh man, where
• 53:45
  Speaker 13: kid Jackson was.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: When I took this job in Texas. If there was
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: one thing.
• 53:52
  Speaker 13: That would have kept in Mississippi state it was your kid, Jackson.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I did not want to leave that kid. Wow. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: knew she was gonna be so good.
• 54:02
  Speaker 13: I loved her and she she loved me, loved playing
• 54:05
  Speaker 13: for us, and she was perfect for my system. And uh,
• 54:11
  Speaker 13: very crittin and is very very similar skill set any body.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, just a pro.
• 54:19
  Speaker 13: She just she's gonna be really goods coming off a
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: little bit of a start degree. She had a trimmed
• 54:27
  Speaker 13: up fat pack and trimmed up her a little bit.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: She'd already had the other one done, and.
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: So she's really clear or had a full God us,
• 54:37
  Speaker 13: she's done parts of not really you know, uh not
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: really uh been able to kind of participate fully just yet.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: We anticipate that time before the summer's over.
• 54:51
  Speaker 13: But she's just you know, she's doing what she can
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: and she getting et and and training room and all that,
• 54:59
  Speaker 13: and again does what she can and we love what
• 55:02
  Speaker 13: we've seen from her. And again a long, tall guard,
• 55:08
  Speaker 13: uh come play multiple positions, does a lot of the
• 55:11
  Speaker 13: dirty work, a lot of the work a lot of
• 55:13
  Speaker 13: kids won't do. And and so it's you know, we
• 55:18
  Speaker 13: really think it's gonna be hard to keep her off
• 55:19
  Speaker 13: the floor as well. So all these kids are gonna play.
• 55:24
  Speaker 13: They're all gonna play, some are gonna.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Start, and you know, Uh, I'm.
• 55:29
  Speaker 13: Excited about We're committed to them, and you don't get
• 55:33
  Speaker 13: other kids out of the portal that might have taken
• 55:37
  Speaker 13: away from their.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Development and playing time.
• 55:40
  Speaker 13: Uh, we are invested in them. I don't believe in them.
• 55:45
  Speaker 13: We believe they're gonna us and help us win.
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about Vic shapeer with us for a
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: few more minutes before before we let you go. I
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: text you last night because I wanted to get your
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: thoughts on this. I was really intrigued by this. Uh.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: The story that beginning with next year this coming season's
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: NCAA Women's basketball Tournament, the top sixteen teams will be
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: placed in the bracket in their true ranking, regardless of
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: conference affiliation. So for folks who didn't know, in the past,
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: the top four teams in a league would be placed
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: in different regions to protect them from playing each other
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: until the final four. So last year there were four
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: SEC teams in the top eight. Texas was third, South Carolina, fourth, LSU, fifth,
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Vanderbilt seventh. LSU was dropped down the seven Vanderbilt eight. Now,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: if that happened going forward, the teams would remain where
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: their seeds should have them. If this looks to me,
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: VIC like the ones that really could be affected by
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: this would be the ACC, the ACC, the Big Ten,
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: in the Big Twelve, those were the only conferences that
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: had four or more teams in the field.
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  Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 13: I mean I've had to play two six these teams
• 57:00
  Speaker 13: in the sweet sixteen in the last two years, so
• 57:04
  Speaker 13: I can't affect me anymore.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I mean that's already since the team pretty early.
• 57:11
  Speaker 13: You know, you know, uh would it put us against somebody?
• 57:20
  Speaker 13: You know, say that if you can avoid it. I
• 57:24
  Speaker 13: don't understand why we do some of the things.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: We men aren't doing this something we have to do it,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: but it is what it is. I just show up,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: tell me who I'm playing. We'll get ready to club.
• 57:40
  Speaker 13: But you know, I think the one school that's I
• 57:45
  Speaker 13: couldn't get to pay somebody from their conferences in the
• 57:50
  Speaker 13: third round sweet sixteen of the NCAA tournament, I don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 13: think has had to do that against the team from
• 57:58
  Speaker 13: their own league. And so uh again, I think we're
• 58:03
  Speaker 13: really play is if you had to play, you know,
• 58:09
  Speaker 13: somebody in the Indite. You know, if you could give
• 58:14
  Speaker 13: God's Dad and move people around like that's you know,
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: because again those cities be fair rewards that are in.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: The top sixteen, the top because of you know, whether
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the second or whatever they did. Don't punish them.
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: Me what we've been doing is worked out well.
• 58:39
  Speaker 13: It sounds to me like they don't like it that
• 58:42
  Speaker 13: the SEC's had Texas and South Carolina and the final four.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I mean that's who That's who you're but it is
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: what it is, like.
• 58:54
  Speaker 13: I really haven't given it a lot.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, we'll try to be good whoever they
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: want me to play, will plut.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I agree you.
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  Speaker 4: One other thing I wanted to ask you about because
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: because the school announced that you've got an exhibition game
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: coming up with Yukon that's going to be up in Connecticut,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: either Harford or Store is coming up on October nineteenth,
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: and of course playing Yukon and you've had to play
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: them up there, and you've had to play them, you know,
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: down here in Austin and had to win over them
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: down here in.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: Austin as well.
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  Speaker 4: Can you discuss what the value of playing a program
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: like that and playing them on the road uh does
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: for your team, even though it is an exhibition game
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: and doesn't count in the overall standings.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, again, it's a it's an opportunity. We're going to
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: go up there that year, they're going to come.
• 59:46
  Speaker 13: Back down here the following year, and you know, we're
• 59:50
  Speaker 13: hoping to obviously they're going.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: To hope to step out and we're going to hope
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to sell out so that we can you know, make
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: make and and so that's what we're that's purpose game.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: We're also going to play you in Austin, play them
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: on uh I think October twenty fifth.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 13: Yeah, and that uh one weekend I think football home
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 13: against Ole Miss on the twenty four and we're gonna
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 13: play the.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Twenty fifth and at the HV Center. Uh.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: And so.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 13: Again, not an opportunity for us to make sust for
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 13: our kids.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: And at the same time, you.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 13: Know, I get a good read on what you're doing
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 13: now you're doing it early in a game that it
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 13: doesn't hurt you.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't hurt hardcoming kids to go up
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: and play and stores can fit on the nineteenth.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 13: Okay, we'll find out a little bit about our team
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 13: on October nineteen, but You've got a lot of time
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: to fit whatever you find out that you didn't like,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 13: and whatever you like, don't get too excited about it,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 13: not to worry about the next week.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: That's a great point. Hey, it's always great to visit
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: with you. I appreciate you taking the time. I know
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: we'll visit again when we could draw a little bit
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: closer on down the road. And I know you're excited
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: about football season to come and everything else as well,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: So I appreciate you taking the time to hop on
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: with me today.
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  Speaker 1: Vic.
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  Speaker 13: Absolutely, I always appreciate you get to.
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  Speaker 1: Be that chance.
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  Speaker 13: Appreciate all you do for our sport and our game,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 13: and thanks. You'll have a great day. Praise the Lord
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 13: and hook of horns.
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  Speaker 4: That's Big Schaeffer, Texas women's head basketball coach. More coming
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  Speaker 4: up when we continue on thirteen Under the Zone.
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• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: and voice of the Texas Longheart, Crazy Craig Way.
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  Speaker 12: Crazy Fufy, less so Lonely. I'm crazy, crazy, far Feeland
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• 1:02:18
  Speaker 14: Long as you wanted, and then someday you leave me far.
• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:38
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  Speaker 4: Carolin Texan Tuesday on thirteen under his own thanks Kenavic
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: Schaff for joining US Texas women's head coach.
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  Speaker 3: And it's true.
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  Speaker 4: They are playing two exhibition games against a pair of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Final four teams. They've got the defending national champions that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: who they'll play UCLA and that's going to be at
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: the HTB Center in Cedar Park. And then they've got
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: an exhibition game at Yukon. It will either be in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Stores or Hartford on October nineteenth. So there's a couple
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: of bigger And also they've announced they're going to play
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Louisville in the sec ACC Challenge. That will be at
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: Moody Center, and that'll be the night after the men
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: play at Louisville in the sec ACC Challenge. It will
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: be my first trip ever to the KFC Young Center
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: in Louisville.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I saw it.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Driving through Louisville. Lyndon and I are on vacation. We
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: were driving across from Saint Louis over toward the eastern
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: part of Kentucky and saw it when it through. I've
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: never called a game there. Did at the old Freedom
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Hall once when Texas played over there, but I've never
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: never at the KFC Young Center. But that's where the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: men will be and the women will host.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: So is there an exclamation mark and there you're supposed
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: to be pronounced all right?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah KFS yum with the exit yum for Spain. Right now,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: they're closing in on beating France, knocking out the number
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: one team. They're up two nil to nothing and probably
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: counting stoppage time about ten to eleven minutes left something
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: like that, counting the stoppage time lab. But they got
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: the penalty kick goal in the first half and then
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: what scored a second one well into the second half
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: is when we were visiting with Vic Schaeffer that Spain
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: scored its second goal.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: It was a great goal. They opened up France down
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: the right wing France's left side defense and Spain actually
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: scored a third goal was taken away for offside, same
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: exact thing being king the ball forward up the right side.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: Since that third goal was taken off the board for offside,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: it's been all France, but Spain is not conceded yet.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, France has been much more aggressive, if desperate at
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: this point now because they're down probably to about ten
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: minutes left for their chances and they're down two goals
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: right now at two neil And again, the winner of
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: this will move on to the World Cup Final on
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Sunday against the winner of tomorrow's summifinal between England and Argentina.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: And is that one in Los Angeles the.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: England, No, that's in Atlanta. That's right, that's in Atlanta.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: And then the championship is a MetLife right in the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: meadowlands there. So Arlington, as it turned out, or as
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: they like to say, Dallas Stadium, Arlington is winding up,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: I think, hosting more matches than any but including a
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: summi final, but they don't get the championship so anyway,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: all right, So that's what's going on there in in
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: the World Cup. And coming up will I'll be back
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: to wrap up our number two of the program again.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: Coming up in the third hour, we talk baseball, recap
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: of the Major League Draft and Major League Baseball at
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: the All Star break.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: We'll do that with Geene Watson.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: He'll join us coming up next hour, but we'll be
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: back to wrap up hour number two here on Sports
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• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Tuesday afternoon Craig Wade joined by the producer Jay Carman.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: Coming up in a few minutes, we'll talk baseball at
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: the All Star break, kind of a mid season evaluation
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: of the big leagues, as well as the thoughts on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: the Home Run Derby and also on the Major League Draft.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Geene Watson is certainly eminently qualified to converse on those tops,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: so Gino will join us coming up in just a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: few minutes to talk about those things. Also, we'll hear
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit later on this hour from Jordan Walker
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: and from Kyle Schwarber. The two finals in the Home
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Run Derby, Well we'll do that as well. The one
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: other thing to mention, it's now gone final in Arlington.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Someone went in and posted the tax line socker. Wait,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: what does that mean?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Holy cow? The French are done.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: The number one team knocked out, shut out in the
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: World Cup by Spain. You've talked about Spain's goalie being
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: just amazing throughout this term or what he's conceded. One
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: goal they've given up.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Though, just the one it was against Belgium the first half.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: It's not just their goal. I mean they have just
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: they made defense, hounded, hounded, high pressure, high possession. At
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: one point in this game they had about sixty percent possession.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: It finished fifty one forty nine. But Spain had the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: possession until they got up to Now.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, really, and it's done for em Buppe and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: for France at least in terms of winning the thing.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: They do have one more match play. I talked about
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: this in the first out of the program. They do
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: have a third place match, if that matters to you.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know where's the third place game being played.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: I think Miami, Okay, all right, so there'll be a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: third place game on Saturday. France, we know, will be
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: in it, and they'll play the loser of the matchup
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: between England and Argentina. You know, if it is in Miami,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: and if and if England beats Argentina, you're gonna have
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: landel See playing perhaps his final World Cup game in
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: the stadium where he plays in the MLS, right.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: In Ah, I believe.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: Actually they're they're playing free in the larger venue aren't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: they they're not playing.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: Where Where was it inter Miami that the MLS team.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Plays, right, that's a twenty seven thousand seat right stadium
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: right the third Place New Stadium.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: This is at hard Rock right exactly, so that's where
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: that's where that would be.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry, Craig, I only know what is Miami
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: Stadium now, it's a seconds to keep all straight.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Miami State at least at least it's in Miami.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: You got what FIFA calls Dallas Stadium in Arlington. You
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: know so, but Spain wins, Spain win. I guess they
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: would like to say as they do. I was trying
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: to explain the plural singulars to Linda about that England
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: advance you.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: Know, not England advances, No.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: No Spain advance. And you said, why is that? When
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: you think about it, you'd say the Cowboys advance. You
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: wouldn't say advance is Cowboys advance Dallas? You'd say Dallas advances,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: which you would say Cowboys advance.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: That's where I get confused, because I would think of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: England like Dallas.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: Well, anybody would get confused if you said anytime cowboys
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: advance so.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, the post season advance to ca't coon Yeah
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: right exactly. So yeah, Spain are moving on as they
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: would like to say. Spain are moving on to the finals.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: And they won one right twenty ten when they had
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: David Milla Mila, I think that's their one World Cup
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: title was in twenty ten. I think they won.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: Yep, that was one in South Africa, wasn't it. It
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: was with the with the Jabu lonnie ball.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, which.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: Was flying everywhere like knuckleball.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Right exactly. Yeah, that's right.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: But it's Panya emerged triumphant and they'll have a chance
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: to win their second one when they go. Of course,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: you know, England's only won one in their history nineteen
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: sixty six when they hosted the immortal Bobby Moffatt leading
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: the English and they won over what was then known
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: as West Germany because it was you know, the Cold
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: War division of Germany into East Germany and West Germany
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: and East Germany being the Communist state and West Germany
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: being the Democratic Republic, and West Germany played England in
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: the World Cup Final at Wembley in nineteen sixty six
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: and it went extra time in the final, and England
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: scored two goals in the extra time in the overtime
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: because they don't play sudden death, you just play an
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: extra thirty minutes and they won. They scored two goals
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: during that time. They won four two, So that's their one.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: That's England's won. Spain is won one. Twenty ten. Argentina
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: has won im do it?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Is it three that they won?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: Our research departments on it, yep three?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: I knew they'd won in eighty six when Maridona and
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: and then and then they went seventy eight? Was it
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: they won when they beat the Dutch in Buenos Ayris, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: when they were hosting, and then of course they won
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: the last World Cup. So we'll see, we'll see if
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Messi and I know a lot of folks were looking
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: forward to perhaps seeing Messi versus I buppy to see
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: h to see Argentina against France won't happen.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 13: Now the.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: France, we'll have a different, different final than the last time.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: Well, Argentina against France will happen if it happens for
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: third place, So maybe there's something useful out of the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: third place match there.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: I still have third place matches above the summer League.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too, you know, And I know third
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: place matches. I went through this whole thing about the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: NCAA basketball tournament in the first hour of the program
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: about the third place you know, they used to have
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: a third place game in the NFL.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: That seems so inconceivable to me.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: They actually had it, And it started off with a
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: very altruistic purpose. This was in the days. It happened
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: during the decade when the NFL and the AFL were
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: in existence, because this didn't happen until the AFL came
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: along in the NFL for a couple of reasons. One
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: the biggest reason was for the player's pension fund, that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: the proceeds would benefit the player's pension fund, and two
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: for increased television exposures. They had this battle with the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: AFL going on in the decade of the sixties. Had
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: a game originally officially titled the burd Bel Benefit Bowl
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: and what it was that Burt Bell had been the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: NFL Commissionero had passed away and Pete Rozelle took over
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty and it became better known as the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: Playoff Bowl. And by the way, that's what we call
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: our third place game in the fantasy league is the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: playoff Bowl. That's what that is.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: I think my dad's league calls it the toilet Bowl. Okay, oh,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: that's something else. Actually, that's something you could refer to that.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: That's the consolation bracket in a high points contest.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, this is a consolation game, or it was.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: It was a third place game, and it matched the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: runners up. And I have to put it this way
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: runners up because the first seven years, I think of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: the way it was structured, the runners up from the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: Eastern Conference in the Western Conference in the NFL.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, so.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: From nineteen sixty through nineteen sixty six, they didn't have
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: playoff games in the NFL, lest two teams tied in
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: a division. The Packers and Colts tied in sixty five
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: and had a playoff that went two overtimes and the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Packers won to go on and start a string of
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: winning three straight NFL titles under Lombardi sixty five to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: sixty seven. But in the first seven seasons nineteen sixty,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: sixty one, sixty two, sixty three, sixty four, sixty five,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: and sixty six, the first seven years all they had
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: was Eastern Conference in Western Conference in a playoff game,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: and the two winners would meet in the NFL Championship game.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: The two runner ups would meet in this Burt Belt
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Benefit Bowl, which like I said, became known as the
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  Speaker 4: Playoff Bowl. So the runner ups in these would play.
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  Speaker 4: And the first three years it was won by the
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  Speaker 4: twight Lions because they were the runner up to the
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: Packers all three of those years, sixty sixty one and
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: sixty two when Green Bay was winning the West and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: really getting cranked up under Lombardi, and they beat I
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  Speaker 4: think the Eagles, they beat the Steelers, I think anyway,
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  Speaker 4: they won the first three. The Packers had to play
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  Speaker 4: in it after the sixty three season when they lost out.
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  Speaker 4: The Bears ended up winning the NFL title and they
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  Speaker 4: played in it. The Packers did in back to back
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: years sixty three and sixty four. Sixty three season they
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: beat Cleveland at at sixty four they lost to Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 4: The Cardinals actually finished second Cardinal Football Saint Louis Cardinal Football.
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  Speaker 4: Ben Lombardi had enough of that thing. He used to
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  Speaker 4: say of it, it's ahinky DNK game played in a
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  Speaker 4: hinky DNK town by hinky DNK teams. That's what he
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  Speaker 4: called it. All the players like this was hinky dink me.
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  Speaker 4: The game was played in Miami. They played it in
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  Speaker 4: the Orange Bowl. There was no NFL team in Miami
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  Speaker 4: at the time. There wasn't even one in the AFL
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  Speaker 4: until sixty six when the Dolphins game as an expansion.
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  Speaker 4: But the NFL played it all the way through nineteen
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  Speaker 4: sixty nine, the last year before the merger made an
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: NFC in AFC. So you should know that the most
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: decorated teams of the Playoff Bowl, the most successful teams
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: were the Detroit Lions in the Los Angeles Rams, and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: the Cowboys. The Cowboys went they in that whole thing
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  Speaker 4: of being next year's champions and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 4: won a couple of them, and they also lost one.
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  Speaker 4: Trivia question. The cowboys first ever postseason game was nineteen
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  Speaker 4: sixty five. It was the Playoff Bowl and they lost
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  Speaker 4: to the Baltimore Colts, and that was their first ever
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: postseason game. The NFL later decided the last one was
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: played in nineteen sixty nine. The Rams beat the Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: thirty one to nothing. It was the last one the
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  Speaker 4: NFL later decided that those games would only count as exhibitions.
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  Speaker 4: So if you look in an NFL record manual, you
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  Speaker 4: might fin a little separate category, but they're classified now
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  Speaker 4: as exhibitions. They're not even classified as a postseason game anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Much Unlike like I said, the NCAA basketball tournament still
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  Speaker 4: counts the third place game as a final four game
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  Speaker 4: because it took place on Final four weekend in that city,
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  Speaker 4: in that arena, in Bob Bradley's record, Bill Bradley, Bill Bradley, Yep, yep, absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Bob Radley was the US soccer manager.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: Bill Bradley, the former outstanding great player in College of Princeton,
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  Speaker 4: played for years with the Knicks, part of two NBACHA
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  Speaker 4: and then was a senator for your ran for president
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  Speaker 4: and one time Bill Bradley did. But yeah, they actually
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  Speaker 4: still in the nca record books count that as a
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  Speaker 4: final four game even though it was a third place game.
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  Speaker 4: All right, they don't play for third place in Major
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  Speaker 4: League Baseball. They play for winning it and getting to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: the World Series and winning that. Who's gonna do that.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna talk with Geene Watson to talks and baseball
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  Speaker 4: coming up next year on thirteen under the zone.
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  Speaker 9: If you expect to win, don't.
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  Speaker 6: Put it on.
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  Speaker 3: You've got the tal.
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  Speaker 9: Ace in the hole.
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  Speaker 4: Well in the four o'clock how we always say we
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: bump back with our ace in the hole. There we
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: we have George Strait music. But when it comes to baseball,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: our ace in the hole is none other than Gene Watson,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: the UH front office man from the Chicago White Sox,
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  Speaker 4: who has been called both an ace in the hole
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: in just an a hole, right sometimes you know?
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 8: That's exactly right, more more more times the ladder than
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  Speaker 8: the other.
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  Speaker 4: So on, Hey, it's great to visit with you again.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to catch up. I mean, obviously I'm coming
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: off vacation, but you're coming off the draft.
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  Speaker 3: We're at the All Star break.
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  Speaker 4: It just seemed like a great convergence to visit about
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: a lot of things before we get to the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Let's let's let's kind of work backward a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: First of all, your thoughts on the home run derby
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  Speaker 4: last night. Did you like the changed format and the
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  Speaker 4: excitement it seemed to generate? And you've talked at length
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: in the past about what a exciting young talent.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Walker is.
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  Speaker 9: I really did love it.
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  Speaker 8: I loved it for Meuni Miracami, especially because he's coming
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  Speaker 8: off in an injury and for the fans globally to
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  Speaker 8: be able to see him swing the bat in the
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  Speaker 8: home run derby.
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  Speaker 9: I thought that was great.
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  Speaker 8: And had there been a timer on it, he wouldn't
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 8: have been able to do it coming off the injury.
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  Speaker 8: It just wouldn't have been something that he physically could
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: have done. So we loved it as an organization because
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: he got to get some extra swings in, get his
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: rhythm and timing back coming back from an injury. But
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  Speaker 8: my gosh, Jordan Walker, I'm so happy for that young
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: man and his family. He made more in the home
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: run derby by winning than he will all year long
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: in his salary with the Cardinals. And this is a
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  Speaker 8: guy that a couple of years ago, you know, a
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: lot of teams could have had him was not playing
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  Speaker 8: well and it was sent back at triple A. And
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  Speaker 8: I know it's just a home run derby, but anytime
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: you can gain some personal momentum in your career and
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: put yourself on the radar like he did last night,
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  Speaker 8: it's certainly great for the game and certainly great for
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 8: the player, and I'm so happy for him.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think also that this is really poignant given
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: what the storm clouds on the horizon about the possibility
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: of a work stoppage and a new collective bargain and
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: gram all of that kind of stuff is out there,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: and yet here's a guy who's making in the Major
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: League Baseball world peanuts in terms of a salary at
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: seven hundred ninety nine thousand, four hundred dollars, and he
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: gets a million dollars for winning the home run derby.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of a nice poetic thing for him to
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  Speaker 4: be able to get that right, especially in this day
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  Speaker 4: in time of what we're talking about about labor and
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  Speaker 4: money and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 9: It really is.
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  Speaker 8: It's such a great thing for a young man like
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  Speaker 8: him on a lot of levels to be able to
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  Speaker 8: win it in the exposure it brings to him. The
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  Speaker 8: car Arginals have had a great year so far. They've
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: had a lot of young players that have stepped back
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 8: up and done a good job, and so just a
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  Speaker 8: great event. I love the new format, which was basically
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: the old format. It gives the fans a little more
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 8: time to get to know the players, and it's just
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  Speaker 8: it's just better all around for everybody participating.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, gino, Let's let's talk about the draft. And I
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  Speaker 4: know you were very very busy as well, and in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: looking at what your your team and your organization did,
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  Speaker 4: I saw a lot of really good comments about your
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: second round pick, Cole pro sec I guess and uh,
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  Speaker 4: is it Rock Chilowski the shortstop? You know, I want
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  Speaker 4: to give you a chance to talk about the guys
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  Speaker 4: you got.
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  Speaker 9: Well, we're so excited about Rock Chilowski.
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  Speaker 8: It really came down to him the college shortstop from
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: UCLA versus Grady Emerson, the high school shortstop from Fort
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 8: Worth Christian High School. Who's going to be just a
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: tremendous talent. But at the end of the day, with
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  Speaker 8: where our major league team is right now and really
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 8: the unexpected surge that we have in twenty twenty six,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 8: Rocks timetable to the major leagues just fits a little
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 8: bit more.
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  Speaker 9: He's a tremendous leader.
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  Speaker 8: The best line I've ever heard about his defense is
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 8: that he's an arrogant defender because he does it so
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  Speaker 8: easy at shortstop and just a quality human being. His
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: father's a scout with the Cincinnati Reds. He was raised
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  Speaker 8: in the game, and so we're super excited about him.
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  Speaker 8: And then at thirty four, we took land and told me,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 8: you might remember that last name, the son of Jim
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  Speaker 8: Tomy out of Nazareth Academy in suburban Chicago.
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  Speaker 9: Jim works for us as a special advisor.
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  Speaker 8: And Landon is a left handed hitting shortstop that has
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: some sneaky power for a guy that's about five foot ten.
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  Speaker 8: He's a plus runner. He creates a lot of havoc
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  Speaker 8: on the base paths, and he's the guy that's going
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: to be.
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  Speaker 9: Able to move all over the diamond.
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  Speaker 8: And then Cole pro second one of the top left
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  Speaker 8: handed hitters in high school ranks this year.
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  Speaker 9: And so we're super excited about all of our picks.
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  Speaker 8: We we've got a we've got a wonderful room full
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  Speaker 8: of a lot of super intelligent, smart baseball men, uh
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  Speaker 8: and a lot of super quality X major league players,
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  Speaker 8: and it just makes for a fun environment.
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  Speaker 4: If you never leave a stone unturned when you're when
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  Speaker 4: you're you know, perusing the possibility of a prospect, and
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  Speaker 4: you ask some hard questions, how difficult is that conversation
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  Speaker 4: with Jim tell me about Landing about oh.
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  Speaker 8: Many today, I mean even today. You know, it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 8: you know, people, I've got to be able to tell
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  Speaker 8: you the truth. And Jim, you know, Jim and Landing,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: it's a very unique relationship. The relationship with the White
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: Sox organization is super unique and where a lot of
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 8: organizations would shy away from the situation. That's what makes
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 8: this one even more special is that Jim is so
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 8: understanding how hard.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 9: The game is, that everybody's got a job to do.
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  Speaker 8: And and you know, I asked him last week, I said, hey,
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  Speaker 8: have you asked Lando how he feels about this? And
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 8: he said, yeah, I have, and he wants to raise
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: a flag in Chicago. So, uh, you know, it's it's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 8: a unique situation. But Jim's such a special guy and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: Landing such a special talent that at the end of
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  Speaker 8: the day, you take the do you take the best
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  Speaker 8: player on the board and Landon was there for so
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  Speaker 8: we took him.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I could not let this pass, as painful
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: as it is to mention that you got Joey Voltchko
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  Speaker 4: in the third round. Uh for folks, remember, yeah, that's
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: the guy who really put it to Texas in the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: College World Series.
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  Speaker 3: He was amazing.
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  Speaker 13: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Keith Morland that night working the broadcast said what he
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: did with his changeup and what he did with his
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: slider was absolutely amazing to watch.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, this is a special talent.
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  Speaker 8: His his secondary pitches are so unique, and he's such
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 8: a competitor.
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  Speaker 13: Uh.
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  Speaker 8: You know, you don't ever want to put limitations on
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  Speaker 8: the play. The players will always tell you when they're ready.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, when you look back, you know, in
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 8: twenty fourteen, you know, we call a reliever up from TCU,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: first round left hander whose name I can't believe, I
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: can't remember in October, and so you never know what's
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: going to happen. This is a super talented reliever that
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: has a chance to move quick and we were really
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 8: excited to get it.
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  Speaker 3: Did the draft go?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's always surprises, there's always unknowns, there's always
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: things that folks may have not expected to happen. But
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: by and large, did this draft go, not only for
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: your organization but overall in the majors?
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  Speaker 3: Go about?
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  Speaker 4: Like how most drafts, even though the draft has evolved
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: and become different over the past few years.
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  Speaker 9: I wouldn't say that it did, Craig.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, the thing that's changed so much
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: about the draft is the nil money in college baseball.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 8: And there's so many kids that are so high academic
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: now that are going to stand for and other places
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: Notre Dame.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: And so you know, when the.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 8: Players starts to slide down the board, and because you
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: have a slotting system and a pool in the top
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 8: ten rounds, as players begin to slide down the board,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: the signability of them becomes lesser and lesser because the
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: signing bonus is going to be way less than what
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 8: they might get at LSU or Arkansas or University of Texas.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 9: And so that's the one unique thing is that you know,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 9: kids are you know a lot of.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: Kids are going to school, and you know, I personally
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: believe that there's no better way to become a big
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: leaguer than playing baseball every day in professional baseball with
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: the development and the schedule and the travel and just
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 8: getting acculated in the pro game. But but college baseball
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: is bigger and better than it's ever been, and with
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: the Nile money, it's kind of leveled the playing field
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: once you get past that third round. And so college
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: baseball is going to thrive. Professional baseball is going to thrive.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: But for the players that want to play at the
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: major league level, there's no better thing to do than
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: to sign out of high school.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and and what you did, what you just laid
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: out there, You mentioned Stanford, you mentioned nil.
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  Speaker 3: You think about this in this day and age, how.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 13: How you know?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: Just absolutely inconceivable?
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  Speaker 4: Might it be to think about a couple of guys
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: who were highly decorated playing at Stanford who left for
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: an I and IL purposes and one of them is
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: on your major league roster right now, and bring Montgomery
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: and then and then the other one is that it
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: comes to mind is Timo Basera who played at Texas
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: this year that transferred in from Stanford. I mean, so
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: even a Stanford education and those guys were going to
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: finish up their degrees anyway. But a Stanford education sometimes
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: or a Notre Dame education, uh, you know, in the
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: case of a Carson tiny or some other places. Uh,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: the the education might wind up taking the back seat.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: If that NIL money is as attractive as it has become,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: No question, it's.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 9: Only gotten bigger.
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  Speaker 8: I think there's going to be eventual donor fatigue with
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: all of this, which may swing it back our way.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: I know there's been a lot of conversation in the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 8: Collective Bargain agreement about high school players not being in
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: the draft, which could affect a lot of things, players
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: being able to be drafted every year in college baseball,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 8: which could affect a landscape a lot. But you know,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 8: it's a difficult decision. You know, my son was drafted
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 8: out of high school. He was raised in minor league baseball.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 8: It scared the heck out of me. So every family
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 8: is different, every player is different, but the NIL money
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 8: is certainly leveled the playing field when it comes to signability.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: Gene Watson joining us here on the program. All right,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: let's get to the topic that eventually it'll get down
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: the road to when it's going to happen. But I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: got a little chuckle about this, and I wanted to
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: get your thoughts on it. So Rob Manford, the commissioner
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: a Major League Baseball and the interim executive director of
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: the Player Association, Bruce Meyer, had some different views on
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: that level the field ad campaign that expressed the league's
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: desire for a salary cap, and Manford said this morning quote.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: I think when you have a difficult public issue, particularly
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: when the other side of the issue is being very
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: public about what their views are on the negotiation, I
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: think it's incumbent on us to keep our fans informed
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: of our view of the world, particularly given sometimes the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: other side may not be completely accurate or fair in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: terms of their recitation of what's going on. Meyer comes
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: back with a quote, I've watched over the last two
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: years how the owners the commissioner's office try to convince
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: fans and consumers of their product that the product is broken.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: I think it's perverse case in point is leading up
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: to this All Star Game, any of us who watch
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: baseball are seeing ads not so much for the All
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: Star Game, not promoting the game, not promoting the players,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: but promoting the league's desire for a salary cap. So
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: the two sides, obviously, I mean, this is emblematic of
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: how things are kind of widespread and for a part
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: right now aren't the genome it is.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, the one thing I think is important
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 8: for both sides to recognize is that you have to
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 8: see the game through the eyes of the fan.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 9: That's the most important thing that you can do. I
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 9: know it's a business.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 8: I know the owners have their side, I know how
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  Speaker 8: the players have their sides. But this is a different
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  Speaker 8: society than it was in nineteen ninety four, and fans,
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  Speaker 8: they have a lot of other different options. When you
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  Speaker 8: put the WNBA and Savannah Bananas and all of the
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  Speaker 8: World Cup and all the things that have taken the
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  Speaker 8: country by storm this summer, you know, the entertainment dollars
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  Speaker 8: being spread thinner than ever, and so I think it's
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  Speaker 8: important to recognize that right now, the game is thriving.
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  Speaker 8: Attendance is up in almost every ballpark, Viewership is up
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  Speaker 8: in almost every market, and even in a time on
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  Speaker 8: a national basis where they've spread the viewership around from
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  Speaker 8: Netflix another Apple TV viewership is up. And so I
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  Speaker 8: think it's important to recognize that we have a really,
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  Speaker 8: really good thing going and both sides should recognize that.
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  Speaker 8: And I know they do, and I know they're trying
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  Speaker 8: very hard to reach a resolution, and hopefully they'll make
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  Speaker 8: that happen.
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  Speaker 4: Let me get your thoughts here kind of a mid
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  Speaker 4: season evaluation, and I just run through this very quickly.
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  Speaker 4: In the American League at the All Star break, the
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  Speaker 4: Rays are up three games on the Yankees the Red
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  Speaker 4: Sox by the way of one nine in a row,
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  Speaker 4: and that's pulled them within ten games first. In the
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  Speaker 4: Central your ball club, the White Sox tied for first
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  Speaker 4: with the Guardians, up three games on the Twins, six
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  Speaker 4: and a half on the Tigers. In the West, the
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  Speaker 4: Rangers up a game and a half on the Mariners
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  Speaker 4: and three on the Astros. On that first of all,
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  Speaker 4: your thoughts on the American League? Is there any of
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  Speaker 4: the debate that your ball club is the biggest surprise
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  Speaker 4: in all of Major League Baseball this season?
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  Speaker 9: No question, And it's a testimony.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, look at Oklahoma at the collegiate level and
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  Speaker 8: what they were able to do because of culture and
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  Speaker 8: team and that's really been the driving force of us.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, this team in twenty twenty six, they don't
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  Speaker 8: know anything about the twenty twenty four team that lost
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  Speaker 8: more games in the history of baseball. You know, they
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  Speaker 8: just know that they love to play for each other,
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  Speaker 8: play with each other, and have a love for the game.
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  Speaker 8: And that's really been when you inject and you feed
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  Speaker 8: a lot of energy and a lot of talent or roster,
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  Speaker 8: thanks can turn around quickly. We have a long way
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  Speaker 8: to go when it comes to winning a world championship
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  Speaker 8: and competing with the likes of the Dodgers and the
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  Speaker 8: Yankees and teams like that.
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  Speaker 9: But we're going to continue to push and feed the
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  Speaker 9: machine and do what we can do.
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  Speaker 8: But I think the interesting part about the American League
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  Speaker 8: is that that's second wild card and the Red Sox
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  Speaker 8: getting hot and some of these teams that have gotten
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  Speaker 8: healthy and started to play well. Most of the teams
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  Speaker 8: that I've spoken to in the last twenty four hours
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  Speaker 8: in preparation for the deadline are one of two things.
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  Speaker 9: We're not tapping out.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to keep going, or we're going to evaluate
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  Speaker 8: the first seven to ten day, ten games out of
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  Speaker 8: the break and then make a decision. And there are
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  Speaker 8: going to be some markets that are sitting there three
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  Speaker 8: and four games out of the wild card and their
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  Speaker 8: front offices and they just say, you know what, we
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  Speaker 8: don't have a chance to win a World championship. That's
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  Speaker 8: our goal to do it, and the only way to
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  Speaker 8: do it is to multiply offfic some of the talent
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  Speaker 8: we have at the major league level.
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  Speaker 9: And if you go that route, you.
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  Speaker 8: Can set your organization up better for the next two
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  Speaker 8: to three to five years, and if you try to
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  Speaker 8: hope to get in on the wild card this year.
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  Speaker 9: And not do it, or get in and get eliminated
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  Speaker 9: right away.
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  Speaker 8: So there's gonna be a lot of teams in the
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  Speaker 8: American League that have a lot of really tough decisions
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  Speaker 8: when it gets to August.
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  Speaker 4: Third in the National League, the Braves are up two
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  Speaker 4: games and that's stumbling down on the stretch for the
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  Speaker 4: All Star Break.
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  Speaker 3: They're up two games on the Phillies, four on the Marlins.
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  Speaker 4: In the Central the Brewers are up five on the
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  Speaker 4: Cubs Cardinals, next back at eight and a half in
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  Speaker 4: the West, despite being swept at home to stagger in
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  Speaker 4: to the All Star Break, the Dodgers are still up
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  Speaker 4: eleven and a half on the Diamondbacks twelve and a
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  Speaker 4: half on the pottery.
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  Speaker 3: How about your thoughts on the National League.
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  Speaker 8: I think we all know the Dodgers are not only
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  Speaker 8: the clear favorite in the National League, but a clear
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  Speaker 8: favorite to probably win their third straight World Championship. The
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  Speaker 8: Milwaukee Brewers are super, super talented, and I think a
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  Speaker 8: lot of what dictates the National League is who's going
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  Speaker 8: to push in with their prospects to improve their major
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  Speaker 8: league club. I look for Atlanta to be super aggressive
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  Speaker 8: at the deadline, and Philadelphia kind of knows who they
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  Speaker 8: are as a team. They're in a lot of ways
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  Speaker 8: like Milwaukee and the Dodgers, they're wishing a way to
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  Speaker 8: get to October. But I think Atlanta, because they've gotten healthy,
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  Speaker 8: because they're so super talented offensively, I think that they're
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  Speaker 8: the team that could push in to go get some pitching.
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  Speaker 8: But the problem is, the more teams stay close in
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  Speaker 8: the next two weeks, the smaller the market's going to
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  Speaker 8: be to go out and acquire that pitching. It's definitely
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  Speaker 8: a seller's market right now, and so you've got to
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 8: be willing to give up some really high, high octane
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  Speaker 8: talent if you want to improve your club this year
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  Speaker 8: at the deadline.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to get your talks in the
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  Speaker 3: All Star Game.
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  Speaker 4: I know you've been many, many, many many times, uh
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  Speaker 4: and and I know you've enjoyed it a great deal.
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  Speaker 4: What do you look for in an All Star Game
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  Speaker 4: when you whether you're in the ballpark or or at
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  Speaker 4: home watching, what do you look.
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  Speaker 3: For when you watch an All Star Game?
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  Speaker 8: Well, certainly the best players want to play the best
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  Speaker 8: on the biggest stage, and and with the younger guys
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  Speaker 8: you can get some of that. I mean, I get
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  Speaker 8: really excited about you know, Muni Mercami and him being
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  Speaker 8: in the game. Named Miguel Vargas who we acquired from
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: the Dodgers, who went through so much in the last
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  Speaker 8: two years to get to this All Star Game. Well,
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  Speaker 8: what's it look like for him coming out of it?
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  Speaker 8: What's it going to do for him as a leader?
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  Speaker 8: You know, is he going to carry on and be
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  Speaker 8: a be a perennial All Star every year? Or is
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  Speaker 8: this a one time thing?
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  Speaker 1: And a guy like.
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  Speaker 8: Tristan Peters for us, who's just been an incredible addition
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  Speaker 8: to our organization from Tampa Bay over the winner to
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  Speaker 8: make that All Star Game, Like how players come out
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  Speaker 8: of the game, and and and so much much has learned.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I've heard so many stories about players going
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 8: into the game not knowing what to expect and coming
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  Speaker 8: out of it with as much information from a development standpoint,
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  Speaker 8: and what it takes to really stay at the major
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  Speaker 8: league level just from being around other players that are
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: just as good as them, are better and so for that, that's.
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  Speaker 9: What it is for me is evaluating what it looks
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  Speaker 9: like coming out.
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  Speaker 8: But we all know that the guys that really really
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  Speaker 8: love to play love to play the very best against
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  Speaker 8: the best, and so that's that's something to pay attention
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  Speaker 8: to tonight.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll certainly look forward to it.
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  Speaker 4: Gino, great to visit with you again, and we'll pick
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  Speaker 4: it up next week and do our weekly conversation next week.
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  Speaker 9: Thanks for the time, all right, Craig, thanks so much,
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  Speaker 9: you guys, take care of you.
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  Speaker 1: Bet.
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  Speaker 4: That's Geen Watson from the Chicago White Sox front office,
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  Speaker 4: All Star preview recap of the draft and kind of
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: a mid season evaluation of Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, Brandon Finnigan was the picture he was thinking.
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  Speaker 4: Brandon finn again. There you go, Gene, Brandon Finnigan. That's right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I remember Brandon Finnig. A good picture. Out standing pitcher
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  Speaker 4: as well. All Right, we have more coming up here
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  Speaker 4: Here on a Texan Tuesday, that a little old man
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  Speaker 4: from Texas z Z top thanks to Geene Watson joining
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  Speaker 4: us on the program. And he was talking about that
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: home run Derby and a guy like Jordan Walker who teams.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: He said, any number of teams could have had him
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  Speaker 4: at that point. And as evidenced by the fact he's
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: yearly salary this year, he is quote unquote only I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: say it in baseball vernacular, seven.
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  Speaker 3: Hundred ninety nine, four hundred dollars. And he won a
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: million bucks last night.
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  Speaker 4: So what did it mean to Jordan Walker to win
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: this home run derby, to do it in Philadelphia, to
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: be able to get past Kyle Schwarbur, and to win
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  Speaker 4: that million dollar prize.
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  Speaker 10: I can't even describe how it means to win it.
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  Speaker 10: There's a lot of a lot of swings, a lot
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  Speaker 10: of pressure. But I think I just had fun no
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  Speaker 10: matter what, like every round else, having a good time.
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  Speaker 10: You know, as a kid, I grew up my favorite
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  Speaker 10: thing to do playing baseball is in the home runs.
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  Speaker 10: So when a competition is, you know, dedicated to doing.
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  Speaker 3: It, I'm gonna have fun doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Uh We hearn him in the first time of the program.
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  Speaker 4: Give a lot of credit to his batting practice pitcher
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  Speaker 4: because I don't. I think we become more aware of
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  Speaker 4: it in recent home run derbys. How important it is
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: to have a really good batting practice pitcher, a guy
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: you work with, a guy you feel comfortable who can
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: give it to you in the spot and at the
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: speed that you need to have a legitimate shot with
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: your swing to knock it out for a home run.
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  Speaker 4: And so he discussed the importance of the batting practice pitcher.
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  Speaker 4: Uh Climbinger terran, I guess it is.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I don't think if y'all know, throwing VP
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 10: is not as easy as it looks, and he made
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  Speaker 10: it look easy. I've been with KT what three years now, Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 10: and I've always been like that, this VP's money and
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  Speaker 10: every time not in his BP group, I'm a little upset,
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  Speaker 10: But yeah, I'm glad to you know, have him, don't
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  Speaker 10: be just some really un believing VP. And as much
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  Speaker 10: as like, you know, as much pressure as I was feeling,
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  Speaker 10: I can imagine he was nervous as well.
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  Speaker 3: But he overcame that, I mean like overcame him really well.
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  Speaker 3: He did a really good job.
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  Speaker 4: And also to his credit, Jordan Walker said he hoped
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: that his accomplishment will can will in some way inspiring
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  Speaker 4: continue to help the initiatives and efforts to get young
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  Speaker 4: African American and minority players more.
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  Speaker 3: Involved in baseball than what we've seen in the past.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's nice.
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  Speaker 5: It's been nice to go on into and see a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the minority baseball players either that I you know,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: from all the way up in the majors, down to
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 5: guys that maybe whose careers I cover. When I was
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: broadcasting in the North Woods League, posting about it and
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: reposting that particular quote from Jordan Walker.
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  Speaker 4: Who did you say you texted me when I was
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: sitting at that Cardinals Diamondbacks game a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: There was somebody that was playing in the game that
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: you called in the north Woods League.
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  Speaker 5: That's right, Lou James Groover, who was going by Gino
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  Speaker 5: Groover at the time. Okay, at the time it was
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  Speaker 5: a summer where he was transferring from Charlotte to Miami.
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  Speaker 5: After that next season at Miami, he was drafted in
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: the second round or maybe the third round by the
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 5: Diamondbacks and he's been playing platooning at first base for
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: them and doing a nice job.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and made the Biggs Kyle Schwarber had to
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: be disappointed. His third shot looked to be his best
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  Speaker 4: shot to win it, and in front of his own
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  Speaker 4: home fans who were clearly in favor of him. As
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  Speaker 4: was pointed out by Jacob First, they were booing anybody
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: other than Bryce Harper, who's going up be you know,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: they were going they were booing every other guy and
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: h Schobert was was asked about the crowd and how
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 4: supportive they were.
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  Speaker 3: Did they even exceed his expectations? It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, I was saying from pitch one where I
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 15: felt like I was just going too hard, trying way
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 15: too hard because I could just I wanted to go
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 15: get it and I wanted the do it, you know,
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  Speaker 15: and I was like, man, talking to yourself here, guy,
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  Speaker 15: I just got to slow it down here because it's
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 15: you know, it's rowdy, and you feel it.
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  Speaker 3: You feed off that. So uh, you know, it felt
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: like it kind of got easier.
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  Speaker 15: You know, it got louder as we went, but it
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 15: felt like it got easier to kind of team it
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  Speaker 15: once we kept going forward.
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  Speaker 4: All right, all right, So there it is and your
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  Speaker 4: home run Derby champion Jordan Walker we'll be back to
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  Speaker 4: wrap up today's edition of the program, coming up here
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  Speaker 4: on thirteen under the Zone