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299. For the Love Of Sport: Lindsey Horan On Leading the USWNT, Body Acceptance & Falling In Love With the Process · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have any regrets or you know,
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  Speaker 1: look back and be like I could have done more.
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  Speaker 1: So if I can put as much into it as possible,
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  Speaker 2: Season seventeen, What's going on? Emily A body Here? You
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  Speaker 3: My name is Emily.
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  Speaker 2: I'm amped to tell you that today's guest is the
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  Speaker 2: one and only Lindsay Haran. She's captain for the US
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  Speaker 2: Woes national team, and she has an insane story. She
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  Speaker 2: was the first American player to ever sign a professional
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  Speaker 2: contract straight out of high school and play overseas in Paris,
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  Speaker 2: and since then she's put in the work to make
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  Speaker 2: her dreams come true, inspiring so many myself included along
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  Speaker 2: the way. We talked about everything from her being body
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  Speaker 2: shamed by a former coach and how she feels about
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  Speaker 2: body acceptance today to the fight for equal pay and
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  Speaker 2: her feelings about the upcoming games back in Paris this summer,
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  Speaker 2: plus her feelings on how big sponsorships like the one
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  Speaker 2: she has with Adidas helped athletes make a career out
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  Speaker 2: of doing what they like, and how she defines being
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  Speaker 2: With that, let's kick off season seventeen. Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 3: Today. I'm sitting down with Lindsay Haran.
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  Speaker 2: She is a pro soccer player also with the US
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  Speaker 2: women's national team.
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  Speaker 3: How are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: I am doing great? How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so good. I have a surprise for you. Okay, right,
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  Speaker 2: I like to really jump in with a bang. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I have a question from a former teammate of yours,
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  Speaker 2: and the question is who is your favorite former player
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  Speaker 2: that you played with who's really funny, pretty, And I'll
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  Speaker 2: go it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like not fair to just put it in
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  Speaker 1: in that form because there's just so many, many pretty
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  Speaker 1: funny favorites. I don't think it's Kelly, You're I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a hard one you.
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  Speaker 3: Have, But you're right.
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  Speaker 2: You have a lot of pretty fellow teammates past and present.
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot that are in my head right now.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't want to just like Sam because if
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  Speaker 1: I say the wrong one, like, they're just going to
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  Speaker 1: get upset.
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  Speaker 3: That's awkward.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you if this person won't get upset, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, give me a name drop.
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  Speaker 2: It creaks, oh creeks for the win.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, she's gonna be elated that that's where your head
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  Speaker 3: went on this.
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  Speaker 1: Easy.
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  Speaker 2: A Pastordal guest on the show and a friend of mine,
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy and humbled that I have the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: To now sit down with a dear friend of hers.
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  Speaker 2: You are in France right now, you are playing where
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  Speaker 2: you started your pro career.
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  Speaker 3: How does it feel to be back?
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  Speaker 2: I hate when I say the words across the pond
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  Speaker 2: it was about to come out over you can say now.
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  Speaker 1: Across the pond works. No, it's it's been honestly incredible.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I never really thought I would be back
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  Speaker 1: here after going back to the US and after my
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  Speaker 1: first experience, but here I am. It's definitely a whole
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  Speaker 1: new experience. Leone is incredible. I love living here, I
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  Speaker 1: love playing here. We're doing really well this season and
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  Speaker 1: currently in the semi final Champions League and we're top
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  Speaker 1: of the table in league play as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's really exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Top of the table. What a phrase. I appreciate what
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  Speaker 2: you said about. I never really thought that i'd be
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  Speaker 2: back here, especially after my first experience. Talk to me
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about that first experience. Deciding to forego
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  Speaker 2: going to college and head over to France to play professional.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was again one of the more difficult decisions
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  Speaker 1: of my life, if not the most difficult. Obviously. I
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  Speaker 1: went at age eighteen to a new culture and new environment,
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  Speaker 1: a professional league, which is just jumping from high school
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  Speaker 1: to doing that is just it's obviously different in self,
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  Speaker 1: I think for me when I look back now and
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  Speaker 1: I reflect on all these years, and I obviously don't
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  Speaker 1: regret anything. I was really proud of myself from making
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  Speaker 1: that decision at such a young age and like actually
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  Speaker 1: fulfilling what I wanted to do, and part of that
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  Speaker 1: decision was to ultimately make the women's national team, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was my pathway and that was my route.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm obviously very thankful that it worked out for me.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it was kind of the work that
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  Speaker 1: I put in and all the different things that I
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  Speaker 1: went through while it was over there, because it was
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  Speaker 1: really hard, just to say the least. But here I am.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm playing on the US one's national
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  Speaker 1: team for ten plus years, and for me, I look
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  Speaker 1: back on that decision, I'm like this, it was all
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  Speaker 1: worth it, even though it was such a struggle in
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  Speaker 1: such a difficult period of time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, understandably so, I mean, to be that far away
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  Speaker 2: from your friends and family at such a young age.
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  Speaker 2: You were the first American female player to sign a
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  Speaker 2: professional contract straight out of high school, it had to
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  Speaker 2: be difficult both emotionally and then of course physically, the
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  Speaker 2: demands of not only you know, going through the ringer
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  Speaker 2: day in and day out with practice, but then also
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  Speaker 2: the physical demands are just working that hard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think for me it was just
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're an eighteen year old that's in high
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  Speaker 1: school and then you jump and you're going straight into
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  Speaker 1: a professional life, like that's it's just it's so bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a different landscape. And it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're playing club with your you know, some of
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  Speaker 1: your best friends. You know at Colorado Rush where I was,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's so exciting every every single day it's happy,
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  Speaker 1: it's you're enjoying and whatnot. And you go into the
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  Speaker 1: professional landscape and it's like you're fighting for a spot.
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  Speaker 1: You're fighting for like this is a job. Like you
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  Speaker 1: show up and it is a job, and obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: what you make of it. And every day I look
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  Speaker 1: at what I do and I'm like, I'm so happy
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  Speaker 1: and it's joy and all these things. But at the
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  Speaker 1: very beginning, it kind of hits you that, like this,
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  Speaker 1: this is a job, like people, it's not just like
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  Speaker 1: flowers and butterflies and what people think professional sports is like.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that was the that was the difference
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  Speaker 1: for me, and I also I had to learn a
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  Speaker 1: lot about my body and what it took to be
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  Speaker 1: a professional athlete. I think before I obviously I was
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  Speaker 1: training three to four times a day at club, like
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  Speaker 1: with boys, with girls, with older players, et cetera, and
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  Speaker 1: I could, you know, eat, do whatever I want to,
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  Speaker 1: and you go into the professional world that it's like
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  Speaker 1: you're training one time a day and maybe some lifts,
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  Speaker 1: but like you're just getting ready for the game over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. So there was a lot of learning that
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  Speaker 1: I had to go through, which was a difficult process
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially because I feel as though at eighteen,
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  Speaker 2: your relationship with your body is like in such a
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  Speaker 2: state of flux and like you're learning about yourself and
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  Speaker 2: there's just so it's so intricate. So to then be
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  Speaker 2: using your body for your profession and have other people
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  Speaker 2: weighing in on how you treat your body, what you
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  Speaker 2: do with your body, how your body looks like, no
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  Speaker 2: matter your age, that's hard, but especially at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think again, when I look back, there are
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  Speaker 1: just so many things that I wish I had known
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  Speaker 1: or had any knowledge of, especially with like the nutrition
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  Speaker 1: part or just preparation for being a professional athlete. I
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  Speaker 1: think obviously you learn over the course of time with
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  Speaker 1: your body what it needs, like your metabolism and all
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  Speaker 1: these things. But I think my jump from you know
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  Speaker 1: what I said before I was training through to four
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  Speaker 1: times a day, I was burning so many calories. I
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  Speaker 1: was doing so much and working so hard to going
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  Speaker 1: to a professional life and turning one time a day,
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  Speaker 1: and then having to realize like what I could and
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  Speaker 1: couldn't put in my body, and then on top of it,
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  Speaker 1: having the French culture that isn't So what's the best
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  Speaker 1: word I could say nice about about that part of
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  Speaker 1: that part of the profession. I think that's what probably
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  Speaker 1: made it the most difficult part being over there and
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  Speaker 1: playing and going through that.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you've spoken openly about kind of
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  Speaker 2: the hurdles no pun intended, that you encountered when you
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  Speaker 2: started playing over in France, interactions you had with coaching
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  Speaker 2: staff commenting on your body, making you feel as though
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  Speaker 2: you weren't okay as you were despite being one of,
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  Speaker 2: if not the top performer on the team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's crazy because you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I'm like so open to talking about it, and then
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's still like hits a wound and it and
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  Speaker 1: it's hard. And especially when I see other players, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, especially other women that go through this on
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  Speaker 1: a daily basis in sport, I think it's really hard
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  Speaker 1: because obviously we have a standard that we have to
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  Speaker 1: hold in a level like being a professional athlete, being ready,
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  Speaker 1: being prepared, and you know, you always want to be
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  Speaker 1: at your best wit like you want to be you
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  Speaker 1: want to feel good when you're playing. And so there's
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  Speaker 1: an aspect to that which I completely understand. But there's
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  Speaker 1: a way of doing it, and there's a way of
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  Speaker 1: making the player feel comfortable speaking about it and putting
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  Speaker 1: them in the best place possible. I remember I had
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  Speaker 1: a conversation with you know, Don Scott's she's massive in
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  Speaker 1: the women's game now. She worked with my US women's
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  Speaker 1: national team and and there was a point of time
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  Speaker 1: where I felt like I wasn't the fittest that I
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  Speaker 1: could be, and she helped me where she was just
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  Speaker 1: like okay, like can we get some more lean muscle mass,
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  Speaker 1: Like can we switch a few things here nutritionally? Can
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  Speaker 1: we do a few more things in the gym like X,
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  Speaker 1: Y and Z. But she made it so comfortable for
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  Speaker 1: me to speak about it where I knew like maybe
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  Speaker 1: it was I needed to lose a few pounds and
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  Speaker 1: I would hit my you know, best weight, my best
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  Speaker 1: playing weight and things like this. I think we should
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  Speaker 1: be more comfortable speaking about that, but it's so difficult
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  Speaker 1: with women and the way that they did it at
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  Speaker 1: PhD in France. It was just a complete opposite. It
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  Speaker 1: was so shameful and so so hard on such a
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  Speaker 1: young individual that's not from there, you know. And so
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  Speaker 1: I battle with it because I'm like, how do you
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  Speaker 1: speak to someone about this when maybe they do need help,
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  Speaker 1: but in the best way possible when it's an eighteen
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  Speaker 1: year old coming from America, you know. So I could
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  Speaker 1: go on rants about it.
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  Speaker 3: But no, I get it and I can really sympathize
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  Speaker 3: with it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I am far from the size of women
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  Speaker 2: that you see in a majority conventional advertising, especially when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to sport or in traditional advertising.
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  Speaker 3: When it comes to running, running is my sport.
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  Speaker 2: It's how I identify as an athlete, and so it's.
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  Speaker 3: Difficult when you feel good in.
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  Speaker 2: Your body, but there is marketing or media or individuals
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  Speaker 2: out there that lead you to believe that you're doing
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  Speaker 2: something wrong just because you don't look like the popular athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Right And this is this is hard in our time
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  Speaker 1: of day because you see that everywhere, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that's it's really important to you know, remember
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  Speaker 1: that we're not all the same. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: what like has gotten me through that time to now
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  Speaker 1: is like there are people and brands and you know,
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  Speaker 1: spokesmen that are are fighting for this thought process because,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you look at social media, you look
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  Speaker 1: at all these ads, you look at certain things where
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  Speaker 1: you're just like, that's who I should be, that's who
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  Speaker 1: I should look like. But then it's like, no, my
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  Speaker 1: body's going to be different to the person next to
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  Speaker 1: me on the field, and it's whatever is going to
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  Speaker 1: make me feel best. And like we just spoke about before,
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  Speaker 1: I was one of the highest performing players at that time,
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  Speaker 1: but still it wasn't good enough. But yeah, it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's wild.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is wild.
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  Speaker 2: And I like what you are putting an emphasis on
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  Speaker 2: was it was about how you wanted to feel and
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  Speaker 2: for you not so much about quote unquote the number
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  Speaker 2: on the scale. Sure, you had an assumption between a
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  Speaker 2: number on a scale and you know how you felt
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  Speaker 2: your best, But I'm sure at the time it wasn't like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not that number, then I'm not okay. It's like, no, like,
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  Speaker 2: how do I want to feel in my body so
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  Speaker 2: that I can perform in a way that makes me
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  Speaker 2: feel proud, right, exactly, entirely, entirely, so, so I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: you opening up about that, especially because, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's something that's so relatable for so many women.
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  Speaker 2: And you mentioned the buzzword brands. I do think that
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  Speaker 2: it's exciting to see more brands giving airtimes showing specifically
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  Speaker 2: women of all shapes, of all sizes, of all abilities
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  Speaker 2: within their marketing. I mean, I was in Paris last week,
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  Speaker 2: and I know that you're an Adidas athlete, and when
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  Speaker 2: they revealed the Olympic kits, it was really awesome to
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  Speaker 2: see all different types of athletes representing their countries. Right.
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  Speaker 2: There were loads of different paralympians, some that could walk,
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  Speaker 2: some that couldn't, you know, larger set bodies, smaller set bodies, tall, short,
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  Speaker 2: all different ethnicities and backgrounds, right, And so it feels
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  Speaker 2: good as a woman who didn't once see individuals that
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  Speaker 2: looked like her in conventional media, to see brands like
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  Speaker 2: Adidas getting into this space and really wanting her to
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  Speaker 2: know that there are all types of people in this
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  Speaker 2: world and each one of them can be an athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you just said it perfectly. But I
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  Speaker 1: do think like Adidas has been on the forefront of that.
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  Speaker 1: I've noticed like such a massive change over the past,
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  Speaker 1: like even since I, you know, first came to France.
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  Speaker 1: When I see what the brand has done, especially for women,
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  Speaker 1: but in general, you know, showing so many different athletes,
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  Speaker 1: so many different people, making it so inclusive. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the first thing I noticed when I go,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I go shopping on the site, if I
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking for, you know, clothes or whatever, I see
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  Speaker 1: so many different, you know, types of bodies and and people.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that is just you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like a welcoming feeling to like what we were talking
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  Speaker 1: about before. But it's so cool to hear, you know
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  Speaker 1: how you know, the reveal was in Paris and things
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  Speaker 1: like this, like that's what that's where we should be
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  Speaker 1: and that's how it should be. And yeah, that that
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  Speaker 1: just it makes me happy.
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  Speaker 3: It makes me happy too. What year did you sign
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  Speaker 3: with A didas once?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't like this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I don't remember my life Befa's athlete.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I've been with Adida since I was eighteen. I guess
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: it was like right when I was turning eighteen and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine, So.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It's been a lot had like a brand believe in
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you from a young age and not only believe in
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: you then, but then also stand by you as you
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: continued on this journey toward you know, the evolution of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: your potential.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: What does that make you feel?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Like, Oh, it's honestly, it's so amazing. I think again,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it was the first brand that like really showed that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: they cared about me. Again, you're putting not a lot
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of risk, but like you're putting investment into a young
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: individual that you're hoping will reach her potential. And I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: think that's really big from such a big brand. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: think at the time, Adidas USA didn't have a lot
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: of women's soccer players, and I think for me to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: go to France, like the visibility isn't, you know, as high,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: but obviously they hope that I'm then on the national
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: team and not so I think for the brand to
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: actually invest in me and to stay invested in me
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and this this entire time, it's just like it's remarkable
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate them so much and everything that that
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: they've continued to do and and you know, like we've
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: talked about before. Adidas was the one that put out
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the platform for me to speak on you know, what
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: happened to me when I first went to France, Like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that's how that first came out, and we're very you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: welcoming for me to speak about that and very open,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and that was that was really meaningful for me because
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if that story would ever be shared,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: and it actually was, and it was through Adidas. So
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm very grateful that that happened because,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: like you said, it reaches a lot of a lot
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: of females that have maybe gone through the same thing,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and it did, and I've had so many people who
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: speak to me about it because of that. So again
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that's it's it's really cool.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Was it scary for you at first to open up
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very scary. I think you always just
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: it's just like something you don't love talking about, or
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: especially before, you don't love talking about it because it
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: is it's such a hard subject. Like I still think
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it's such a hard subject. It's even hard for me
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to like give advice on it because everyone goes through
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: something different. But I think just sharing your story and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: knowing that, like someone else has gone through that or
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: been through you know, hell because of you know, words
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that were said or people or whatever expectation standards. I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: think there's comfort in that, and so I think that's
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: mainly what my story did. And obviously it also shows
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: where I came after that, like I'm always I'm playing
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: for the U s Wan's national team, I'm the captain,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm playing some of the best football in my life,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and like, I went through something so terrible, but you
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: know I was. I was strong enough to come out
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of it, and I also had a support system around
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: me to help me through that, because again, there are
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: times that you want to quit there You're like what
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: am I doing? And I'm sure every individual that's gone
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: through that is, you know, thinking the same.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, when you have a strong why, you
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: are capable of navigating things that otherwise without that why
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: could break you your why At the time, your eyes
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: set on a US women's national team. Talk to me
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit about getting that call.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my first call up was actually Aligarth
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Cup I can't remember. I think it was twenty twelve
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in Portugal, and yeah, it was one of the best
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: feelings of my life. It wasn't short after I went
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: over to France, so I was like, oh my gosh,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Like I did it. This was it. I went to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: France to get this call up. It wasn't like the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: most ideal first camp of my career. I think I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was out for about like seven months after that or whatever.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But like I was able to see the standard and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the level, and I had a lot of communication with
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the coach at the time, just saying like basically, you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: will be here if you continue to do this, like
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you will get to this point, but you need more
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: work and whatnot. And like once I saw the level,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: once I saw that standard, I was like, I know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I can be here if I continue to you know,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: work my ass off. And it's obviously a crazy mentality
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to have, but like it's it's been my goal since
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I was a little kid, So I knew I could
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: achieve it if I if I worked my you know
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: what off.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Where there's a why, there's a way when you talk
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: about working your you know what off and you are
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in this setting where now you are conventionally training you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: said once a day with the goal of competing on
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the weekends. What shifts after this exposure, your first exposure
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to the US women's national team.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Well, at that time, I knew that my fitness was
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: nowhere near the level of the US team. I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: anyone can say like we were. I mean, the US
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: has always been the most fit team. Obviously things have
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: changed like since since then, and you know, so many
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: countries are are improving in so many levels with that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: part of their game, But that was like one of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the major things. And just the speed of the game.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's obviously a little bit different than even playing and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you know your league here, even with with POHC or leone,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: international game is just a little bit different, so you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: just have to be ready for that. And I think
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: for me it was just like even if I had
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to go do fitness in the park near my apartment,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. I was doing everything on
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the side. I was. I was just I was working
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: so hard. And I think I had Tobinheath at the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: time that we would stay after training and just work
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: on finishing and work on so many different aspects of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: our game and get help from them. So yeah, it
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: was it was NonStop.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: None stop.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: So when you are working non stop training NonStop, whether
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: we're talking about.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Then or now. Is there a balance in your life?
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And what if? So if there is balance, what does
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: that look like.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what before when I had first gone
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: to France, there is. I don't know if there was
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: necessarily balance in my life. It's funny because I always
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: said there was, but there wasn't. Now that I know
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: there is balance, I think now like the way I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: look at it is obviously I have a short career
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and I want to put the most I can into it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I think there's no coincidence that I'm marrying a man
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that's really invested in football as well, so because we're
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: just non stop talking football. But we do have such
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a short career and I find time to have balance,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to have the off the field stuff. But I am
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: so invested and I fell in love with this game
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: so early on that I want to do everything I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: can towards that little bit of career that I have
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: playing and I don't want to have any regrets or
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you know, look back and be like I could have
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: done more. So, if I can put as much into
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it as possible, like I know, I will reap the reward.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And I think That's how I first looked at, you know,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: being in France in my earlier years on the national team.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: But obviously as time goes on and you get older
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and our bodies, you know, I know that there's a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: limit in some things. I can't just do three sessions
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a day and things like this, so I've had to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: learn that over over time. I'm sure you can speak
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to all of my coaches and high performance and they
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: will tell you they wanted to kill me at points
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: because I wouldn't get off the field or things like this.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: But I just I just wanted to be better every day.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: But now I think I've found a little bit more balanced.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: It's easier because I have a fiance that I can
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: do stuff with after training and whatnot. And I have
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a dog. That guy helps me a lot out of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the dog out oh, because I gotta go walk him.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I have to care to him. So it takes me
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: away from soccer a little bit, but it's fun. It's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: just like I, I guess I didn't really need the balance,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and a lot of us do. So it's it's just
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: like what what one person needs to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Another, Yeah, one hundred percent, And in your pursuit of
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: this next level play in the years that you have left,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you know, really going after it day in and day out,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: there certainly are going to be days when you're tired.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Despite being very clear on what your goals are.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: For someone who may have a goal of their own,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: what do you tell them to keep them motivated on
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the days where they really feel like it's getting to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: be a little too much.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You know, there's so many different things that I love
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: thinking about. I guess for me, one of them was
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: always like, you know, there's someone else out there that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: like battling for that spot or for you know, whatever
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: dream you're trying to accomplish, Like are you going to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: let them have it rather than you? Like you feel
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: tired today, or you feel sore or whatever, but like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: are you going to regret not doing something today because
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: of that feeling you just said you're too tired, I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: going to stay on the couch. I'm going to do this,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna rest today. Like that always gets in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: my head and I always get pissed off that like
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: someone's going to come in and take my spot, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it's just it's something it's something that I always put
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in my head. But I'm like, I have to do
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: more than that next person. And maybe there isn't that person,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: but it's like I'd rather have that so that I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: have that motivation. And and then my other thing is
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: just like like if you love what you're doing so much,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: like you will you will continue to work as hard
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: as possible at it. And I think it's like I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: always say this on when I'm giving advice or whatever,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: just like, don't fall out of love with what you're doing.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And if you if you stay in that like that mindset,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: like you will love working hard. You will love doing
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the fitness, You'll love doing the extra trainings. Like I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: know there's some players that hate training, they just love games,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and I get it, But I love training so much
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: because that's my preparation for the game. And I think
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that's what keeps me going.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And I truly think that what I'm hearing you say
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: here is that the journey has truly become the destination
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: for you. Like you have been doing this for a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: minute now, and you do it well because you enjoy
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the process, right and not to you know, shade anyone
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: who lives for game day, but realistically, your approach is
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: going to be the approach that makes this sustainable for sure.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You know. That's the funny thing is like I always
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: fight with again, my coaches are high performance when they're like,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we need you to take just one exture rest day,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: like you need a rest day, and I'm like, no,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: this is my preparation for the game. And I have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: to fight with them about it NonStop, and usually I lose.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: But it's what you just said that is like, that
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: is out how my mindset works and how I look
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: But I love you saying maybe it's me.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Usually I lose, but realistically, are you losing if you're
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: giving your body what it needs exactly?
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: You're right?
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Oh man, So what does recovery look like for you?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Typically a lot of my time I have, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: my Norman tech boots. I use massage as like one
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of my biggest recoveries. I think a lot of people
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: think of a massage like, oh my gosh, you're so lucky.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You're just getting like going to a spa having a
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: massage like these massage is hurt, but they are like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it's what keeps my body going. We have you know,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: cryotherapy at our facility and ice bath, hot bath like
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: things like this, So I'm doing like whatever I possibly can.
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  Speaker 2: but it's up to you to show up and show out.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: How does that mentality play in with being someone who's
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: involved in a team sport.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: What is it like for you to be part of
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: a team.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: For me, it's like what you know every day, how
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I how I approach training, how I walk into the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: locker room, like, how I show up is like how
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I'm showing up for the team. Like it's again we
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: can talk about how we said what if you're tired,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: what if you feel like you need to rest day,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like whatever, Like your approach to every single training is
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: what the whole team is going to see, and like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: what you're doing on the field of the body language
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: like all these things. I think that's the coolest thing
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: about being in a team sport is like if you
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: are having a rough day, if you're not feeling it whatever,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and you look at the person next to who's just like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: come on, like we got this like body language, like
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: just such a positive vibe and like wanting to get better.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Like that, you know, gives me motivation. So I always
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's how I approach like a team sport.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's so cool that you have that ability,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: because for an individual sport, like you're the one having
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to continuously motivate yourself and that's really difficult. So I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: think we're lucky and we should utilize that as much
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: as possible.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, beyond the team aspect of it, clearly the sport
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: has given you many near and dear female friendships. Chat
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: with me a little bit about how those have impacted you.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: What does having so many strong women around you regularly
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: do for you personally?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's been incredible, you know. I have so many,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: so many teammates, so many friends all over the world
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that you know, some are so much older than me
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that I've looked up to, that are veterans of the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: game that are like my role models, but also are
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: my friends like my older sisters. I have friends that
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: are you know my age that we've gone through all
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of the same things together and come up through the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: national team together. And that's a really exciting process because
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you bond like no one else goes through the same
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: thing as you guys are going through, so you bond
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: so much over that. And then you have like the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: young guns coming through and that's so exciting for me
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: because you get to see them go through the process
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that you went through at the beginning of your career
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and you get to help and share your experience and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: things like this. It's just like, you don't get this
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: anywhere else that teammate experienced exposure French like, it just
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: bonds you in such a different way. And yeah, it's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: it's truly incredible.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And it's not just these friendships and that you know
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: on the field that you're interacting, you're all also fighting
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: for people to recognize you and give you, you know,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the props that you so dearly deserve.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I know that the US women's national team, they.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Generated more revenue than the US men's national team from
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: twenty sixteen through twenty eighteen and beyond. So where are
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: we standing right now in the fight for equal pay?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Well, obviously our national team has been on the forefront
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: of that, and I think you look back at all
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the members of the team and what we fought for
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and where we are at now, I think it's truly
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: so incredible. So I think in terms of the US
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: women's national team, it's gotten to such a such a
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: great place. I think we are still fighting in the
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: NBUSL and I know that's it's difficult for me to
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: say because I'm not there right now, but in terms
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of contracts, in terms of salaries or whatever, they're improving,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the salary caps going up, and I think it needs
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to continue like that because if you still compare and
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: in the leagues in the US, it's not entirely the same,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: but you see it progressively getting better. So I think
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: it's it's getting there. And I think you can also see,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, what we spoke about earlier with the brands,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Like you see so many of my teammates all over
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the place, and that's you know, like commercials, billboards, you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: if we talk about Adidas where in the Adidas stores,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Like I get pictures all the time showing my face
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: or trends face and things like this, and it's just
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that's such a really cool thing because before it was
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: not like this, you know, and I think it's so special,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: but it's what we deserve and what these players deserve
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: for working so hard every single day. It's doing the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: same things as our male counterparts.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: It would be I would be remiss if I didn't
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: acknowledge that clearly women's sports right now is really on
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the opposite.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: It's having a moment.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I couldn't be more amped as someone who identifies as
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: an athlete in her own right, but obviously not on
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the level that you are. With that said, how does
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: it feel to be a woman in sport right now
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: watching what's happening within the media and the rally behind
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: women to get the attention and again the pay that
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: they deserve.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I mean, it's it's incredible. And I'm an athlete.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I love watching all sports. I love watching men, I
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: love watching women, et cetera, et cetera. And it's like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it's not like I'm like throwing out the men now.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: It's just like we're actually getting the exposure that we deserve.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And that's over so many different sports. You know. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: turn on Sports Center and we're talking about the women's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: basketball more than more than I've ever heard of my life,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: and NonStop, like NonStop, and I was just like, this
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: is this is incredible and even like for me, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't have very much knowledge on just like the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: college women's game for basketball, and now it was just
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: like a NonStop thing where I like could not take
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: my eyes off the TV. And luckily I was in
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the US at the time that the tournament was going
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: on and I could actually watch. I was so thankful
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: because otherwise it's three am my time. But you know that,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm a woman and like that's a cool thing.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So now you think about all the men that are
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: now seeing this as well, and it's just like they're invested.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's incredible. So yeah, I again, it's how it
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: should be. It's how it should be, and it continues
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and it needs to continue. But it is really special
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to see and to be a part of that in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: this you know, day and age and for everything that
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: we fought for before, especially with our national team, you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: feel like this sense of I don't know, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: we did something and we helped in some way, and
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: now you see all this happening. It's it's really special.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it all builds together.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: One piece of the puzzle contributes to another piece of
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the puzzle, and before you know it, you have like
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: a masterpiece in.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Front of you. And I think that there's certainly a
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: ways to go. Right now.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: There is light being shed on issues and on individuals
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and on talent that has never shown on them before,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and so together in some way through you know, different medians,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: whether it's you coming out of podcast like this, me
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: interviewing people to get their stories out.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: You know, we all have the opportunity to contribute.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And I think the thing that gives me the most
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: hope is in times like the tournament just now that
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: happened for March Madness. You see all the videos of
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the young girls that are watching other women on TV,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: and oh my god, I lose it every time.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so cute. It's so I saw so many
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of those and it's just like wow, it's so special.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: It is so special.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: When I was that young girl, like I couldn't I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't watch, you know, like I didn't. I didn't have
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: like a women's basketball player to look up too, because
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I played basketball, but obviously I went or soccer. But
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I was like that that's so cool for them.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And that is why you are, for so many so inspirational,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: right because you have set out and carved your own
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: path in this way that now when people think of
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: women's soccer in America, you're arguably one of the names
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that they think of.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: When I say that to you, how does that make
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: you feel?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It Like, it still gives me goosebumps. It's so wild.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: No matter how long I play, it's hard to like
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: think of yourself like that. And I've had to like,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: you know, really pegging into my head like this is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and it's a responsibility as well, because you know, we
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: talked about showing up before, but it's also like showing
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: up for those young athletes that are watching us girls
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and boys. And I saw a little boy with my
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: jersey in one of the last games that I was playing,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and that, like that almost brought me into tears because
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's a little boy that's looking up
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to me as well. So I think we've gotten to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: this point, and I've gotten to this point where I'm
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: like I have a responsibility to show up for them
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: as well and to be a role model on and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: off the pitch, like, obviously, I'm going to play my
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: game that I play on the field and not change,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: you know, who I am, and hopefully that inspires you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the young individuals, but off the field, like I need
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to give them what they deserve and show them who
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I am and hopefully be a role model and being
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the person I am. So that's again, it's it's such
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a such a special feeling and I can't really explain it,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's such a cool responsibility.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: As well, all because you're pursuing something that brings you
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: so much joy, which is truly so special. You said
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the buzzwords role model. Clearly, you're a leader both on
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: the US women's national team and beyond that as a
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: captain there.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: What does it mean for you to be a leader?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: What do you think are important qualities to possess or
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: embody as you kind of step up in the forefront, you.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Know, for me, like going through this new role. Obviously
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I was named the captain before the World Cup, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it came really quick. I always just thought to myself
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that I don't want to change, you know, who I am,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: but also just bring out more of the leadership parts
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: of me that I felt like maybe we're hiding or
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: maybe I couldn't bring out if I wasn't the captain,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily the case. I think it was
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: just in just a weird thing inside of me. I
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: think for me, it's more like again showing up every
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: single day and like you can't really turn off. And
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: again it's such a crazy responsibility, but a really special
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: one because everyone's looking to you. You have a huge responsibility,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and you need to keep a support system around you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to like help you through that, which I've learned very
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: very quickly in my national team role, but just to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: keep inspiring and be a voice for everyone, I think,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: especially in the team setting, like you need to be
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a voice for your team and have that relationship with
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: your coaching staff as well and the head coach. You know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that's massive, it's vital. But again, it's like when you're
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the captain of the US w meeen's national team, it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: just so it's so big, So it's so massive, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: everyone looks to you. And I think of, you know,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: the captains in the past and what they've stood for
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and the things that they've they've done, but more so
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: just their play in general, like that's that's my responsibility.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: What does Lindsay stand for.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I think I my number one thing I stand for
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: is to you know, no dream is too big. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: think that's the my biggest thing, is like, you could
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: put so much work and so much effort in and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you can achieve anything that you want to achieve. But
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I also just I want to be a good person,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and I want to be inclusive, and I want to
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: make everyone better on and off the field and be
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: that person everyone looks up to and and help people
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: enjoy as well. I think there's so many things in there,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: but again it's it's just I want to be me
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and make sure everyone remains themselves and I think that's
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a big part of our national team as well. It
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: is just like allowing that that feeling that you can
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: be yourself and you're comfortable in yourself. So yeah, that's
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: that's me.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I'm impressed with. I mean, there were a lot of
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: words in there, but it feels as though you're very
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: clear on what it is that you stand for. And
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I think that someone listening to this right now may
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: be like, Wow, like, how did.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: You get to this point where you're like so clear
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: on this?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you, like, did you reflect
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: on what it is that you stand for when you
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: were presented with this opportunity? Was it reflecting on where
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: you've come from? Like how did you dial into kind
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: of your personal mission statement as you're in this role?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Now? You know, it's funny. I think it didn't actually
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: dial into me until after the twenty nineteen World Cup.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what age I had there. But
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I started working with a a sports psychologist. His name
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: is Darren Treasure, and he's been so crucial for me.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And it's like these conversations happen a lot, you know,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: on this object. And it wasn't necessarily just you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: working on my mental game and how I approach every
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: training and game and whatever. It's just like who is Lindsay?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Like who's Lindsay as a player? Who's Lindsay as a person?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Like what do I want to be? What do I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: want to still achieve? And like short term goals, long
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: term all of these kind of things, but like who
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: really is Lindsay? And diving into that was like really
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: hard and I remember like the exact moment I did
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it and writing it down in my notebook and I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't take my pen off the paper because I had
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: so many things to get out. And then it you know,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you read it and you look at it and you're like, wow,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: this is like, this is who I want to be
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm not allowing myself to do all of that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And I think so over the past five six years
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: that you know, I've been working and working with him,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I've really I've been able to do this and figure
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: out who Lindsay is and who I want to continue
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to be. And that's so I encourage anyone, anyone to do. That.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you have to go work with a sports
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: sect figure it out, but you know, those kind of
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: things to keep your mind going. I think that's why
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm so comfortable in that that feeling.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I think in order to excel or dial
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: in on your goals at any given moment, you have
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: to be willing to meet yourself with where you're at,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and oftentimes that means sitting with thoughts that you haven't
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: given air previously. Right, So you sat down and got
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: really clear on who you are. And that wasn't something
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: that just happened in like fifteen seconds. It was like, oh, here,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I am sitting with this notebook and now I can
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: write down exactly who I am. It's like, no, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you have to sit with the feelings that maybe you
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: haven't allowed yourself to feel, the thoughts that you haven't
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: allowed yourself to speak right, And in doing that and
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: getting uncomfortable and giving yourself that air, that grace, that space,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: you then can kind of make waves forward to who
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: it is that you want to be and what it
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: is that you want to achieve.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Entirely.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: If you look back at that notebook, you'll see like
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: some droplets where I was like crying too, and it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: like it was so cool. It was like such an
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: emotional thing. But I was like, anytime I look back
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: at on, I'm like, this is incredible.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Incredible, incredible, and it's done so much for you. Right now,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: we're in an Olympic year, there's a lot going on,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: and again you're playing back where your professional career started.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about your emotional your
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: mental state right now as we head into such a
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: big summer.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all over the place. Well, first off, it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: hard because you're finishing out a season here with Leon.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: We have this semi final second leg left of Champions
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: League and then hopefully a final. So my focus is
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: like it's mainly on that. Obviously, you have the Olympics
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: in the back of your mind and there's a team
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: to make there and a roster to make, and I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: think for me it's it's very exciting. It's back here
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in France. Obviously, it's kind of my second home and
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: just another opportunity this summer to show who the US is.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: But I think right now it's kind of like what
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: can I do on a daily basis and on a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: daily basis with my team here in Leone to prepare
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: myself and hopefully make that team and hopefully go to
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: another Olympics.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: You said there's a team to make, a roster to make.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: What does that process look like for those that are unaware.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: So, the Olympic roster is a lot smaller than a
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: World Cup roster. It's only eighteen, which means two keepers
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: and sixteen field players. You do have four alternates that
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: come but are not technically a part of the team.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: It's not like the last Olympics where you can swap,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: so it makes it a lot more difficult than a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: twenty three man roster. So yeah, we have a camp
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: at the end of May and then another pre camp
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: prior to heading off. I'm not exactly positive when the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: final roster is named, but I'm assuming it will be
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: a bit after this May camp coming up. So yeah,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it's exciting times, but it's difficult times because my gosh,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the depth that we have women's national team makes it
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: so difficult to name a name a eighteen man roster.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, entirely, and the emotions that go hand in hand
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: with that. Knowing that because the talent is so widespread,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: you like want the best for everyone. But this goes
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: back to what you were saying about, like you also
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: wanted to be you.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's such a hard thing to feel in
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: your head. Obviously, there's so many players that have been
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: fighting for this roster, maybe that have made the World
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Cup team last year that might not make the Olympic roster.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Like that's just how it goes in it it's back
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to the professional world. It's like you're fighting for a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: roster and you might be fighting against a friend or
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: a team that you played with for a really long time,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and that's how it goes. But there's so much support
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: for every single one of us, and I think we
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: go about it in the best way possible. But the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: end of the day, like, we got to do our thing,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: we got to make that roster, and yeah, we will
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: be there for for everyone.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to me about that support and how you
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: navigate this pressure.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Where do you lean into, who do you look to?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: How are you supported as you're in pursuit of these big,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: lofty goals this year.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny. I think a lot of
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: people lean into me more lately, which actually takes a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: lot of the pressure off of me. How sad like
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the pressure off of myself. I think, again, this is
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: what we talked about before. I feel like a lot
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of people are coming to me for advice or things
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: that they're going through on a daily basis, especially with
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the Women's Natural team, And it's almost like this comforting
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: feeling because I was there at one point and I
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: know what it's like and I know that experience, and
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I can help as much as possible and give words
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: as much as possible, and it takes a bit away
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: from like maybe my stress or my pressure like to
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: perform and you know, to make the roster as well.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Obviously that that will always be there. You can't take
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: anything for granted. And there's you no matter who I
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I am, if I'm the captain if not. You know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I have a spot that like I need to, you know,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: work my ass off for so and making sure everyone
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: on the team knows that this is grind time, you know.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: But I obviously I have my people back home, Like
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: if I need, I have my fiance, I have my parents,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I have my sports hyke, Like I have a lot
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: of people that I lean on. I keep it a
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: smaller circle. But obviously, like there are those times that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you get drained and you need them and they've been
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: so crucial for me in my life.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: So and you have to put your oxygen mask on,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Like I have a friend that's going through some really
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: hard stuff right now with his family and some medical stuff,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and I said to him, like, as a strong friend,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: it's me, I'm the strong friend, and you're also the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: strong friend. Like you need to get to a place
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: sometimes where you allow yourself to feel to like open
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: up to the different emotions that maybe you're not recognizing
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: because you're so busy trying to keep your shit together.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a that is like a tough thing,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: because sometimes it's really helpful, and then sometimes you're like
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you're about to blow up because you have so much
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: in your head that you haven't allowed yourself to feel
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: those feelings. Like you say, so it will all come.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Out, It'll all come out.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: And what I'm hearing you say also is that by
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: being this person that other people can lean on and
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: like allowing them to come to you and helping them
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: through their situations, it's also in turn helping you as
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: a leader. Yeah, it's reminding you what you're capable of.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: It's reminding you where you've been. And sometimes when we're
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: busy going after our goals, like and we get we
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: get a little bit lost in the journey. And for
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: you to be able to be in this position now
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: where you can offer advice, it gives you this opportunity
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: to really do a lot of reflection and reminds you
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: candidly who the hell you are.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, what you said it perfectly Mike on a podcast.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: My gosh, I don't have to say anymore on that.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: And then I mean, in terms of support, does anything
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: shift with the brands you're working with in an Olympic year?
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Do you have more commitments. How does that make you feel?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about that.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think well, first and foremost, during a World
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Cup or an Olympic gear things get a lot heavier
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and with all of your brands and you know, things
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: that you're pulled into and things that you have to do.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: But obviously that's also in turn a really great things.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: It shows you know, the people that are invested in you,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: the brands that are invested in you, and that's just
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: like amazing. This is like, this is when you should
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: be seen. This is when we should show some of
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the best players in the world and all over the place.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And you know, it was really cool. I saw an
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Adidas ad the other day, you know, showing women in
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: sport and talking about, you know, the young females that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: are dropping out a sport more frequently than the young
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: male and and it's like then you see, you know,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a picture of a young female with you know, all
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: of these professional women. I think that's just it's very
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: inspiring to see and probably really inspiring for a young
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: individual to look at and see all over the social media.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's things like this, we're around an
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Olympic year, We're around a World Cup year and you
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: see all of these ads and brands, you know, pulling
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: out things like this. This is that's where it's really
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: special and obviously you get the most reach and people
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: seeing it. So yeah, this is this is big time
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and it's the perfect time of the year.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned going into energy to store and seeing
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: yourself obviously not the first time that's happened. Do you
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: remember where you were or how it felt the first
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: time that you saw yourself amplified in that way.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have been Portland. My first time at
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the Adida's headquarters in Portland, I saw a really large
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: picture of me on the outside and I was like,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I had no idea it was there. No one said
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: anything to me or whatever, but I was just like,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: there's no way that's me, and I'm next to like
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: I think it was Damian Lillard at the time. It's
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: just like a massive obviously NBA star and Adidas star,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm next to him on this
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: this building, Like that's insane. So that was that was
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: probably one of the first times.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Wild, absolutely wild.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Right now, speaking of what you see, someone comes to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: your Instagram page, there's something like near four hundred thousand
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: followers there. They see an Adidas athlete, a professional soccer player.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: But when Lindsay looks in the mirror, what is it
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: that Lindsay sees looking back at her.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's such a hard question. I guess this isn't
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: gonna help. But I think it depends on, you know,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the day and the time. I think. Obviously a lot
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of the time I'm getting ready and I'm looking at
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: the mirror, like I think about, you know, what I'm
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: about to go do and who I am. And again
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: it's something that I've worked on for a long time.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I usually look in the mirror and say something as
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: lame as it sounds, but talk about like I am
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a leader, I am Lindsay heran, I am a positive
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: person or I am going to be positive today, like
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: things like this, this is who I see. And then
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of the time I'm like, I look at
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: myself and I think about that young Lindsay that you know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: was inspiring and inspired to be the person I am today,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and I think about her so often because it's it's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: such a cool thing to reflect on, like thinking about
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: that little Lindsay that dreamt of, you know, playing professional
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: soccer and dreamt of playing for the US women's national
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: team one day. Like, that's always who I think of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: when I'm like, I'm gonna go be my best for
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: her today.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so fat and it's so special to have
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: dreamt about the life you're living right now. I have
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: this sign in my office that says, remember when you
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: wanted what you have right now, And it always helps
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: me kind of dial in and come back to self
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: and remember that I'm doing things now as are you
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: that you only dreamed about, and things as well that
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: you never dreamed about, right, And it's an opportunity we
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: have every day to continue to make that younger version
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: of our self proud in the process.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes me emotional.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: It makes me emotional too. Yeah, it makes me emotional too.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask you. You talked about these
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: im statements, which I think are so powerful and certainly
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: a tool that I've used in the past for someone
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: that might be struggling with a sense of self with
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: feeling empowered in their body. Do you have any advice
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: for that person to be working on that inner dialogue
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: in a way that can be productive instead of detrimental.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, when I first started working on it
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: with my sports, it was back to like who Lindsay
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: is or who Lindsay wants to be, or like what
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: things that you want to change in that, And I
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: think a lot of it was like I want to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: be positive every day even if I'm having a bad day.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I want to be a leader. I want to you know.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: One of them was like I want to have a
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: not give a you know what attitude where it's like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: even something goes wrong or you coach, you're screaming at
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: you whatever, like it's kind of like, okay, move on
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to the next thing. And I'm just like this seems
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: so dumb, Like I'm sitting in the mirror like saying
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: these things to myself. But it was it's actually so
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: wild when you write them down. Like there was five
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of them that I would write write down, and then
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I go to the mirror and I actually got like
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a marker. He told me to get a marker, write
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: him down on my mirror, and so I would sit
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: there and I would read them to myself and I
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: had to repeat him five times, and I'm like, I
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: can't believe this guy's making me do this, And then
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: the more it was happening, the more it was kind
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of set in my head and it was a reminder.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: So like I would go out to training and I
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: remember I'm like, I'm like, I was about to be
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: negative about something, and I said, wait, I said, I'm
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: going to be positive today, and I'm like, oh my god,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: it's actually working. So then it was just like I
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: actually believed in it, and I the more and more
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know about all these you know, different
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: things affirmations that I'm saying, I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: it's actually working. And like to this day, I still
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: know those five affirmations that I have in my notes
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: are still in my notes, and sometimes they change based
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: on like, you know, what my goal is for that
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: year or things that I like. Obviously, being captain has
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: been a massive thing. So the leadership thing has been
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: been huge for me. But it's incredible. It's incredible, like
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the self talk, like what it does for you, and
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: some people just don't truly believe in it, and I
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: was one of them. And I'm telling you right now
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: that it's it's a massive, massive thing.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: Will you share some of those with us? The affirmations.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I am a leader was one of them.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be positive today, I'm going to have
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: a not gift the attitude I'm going to enjoy and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get better today.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: So powerful, so powerful.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: All right, as we wind down here the question I
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: end all of the episodes with right now, you have
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: an opportunity, as you are now to offer the Lindsay
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: a piece of advice during her hurdle moment. Let's bring
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: you back to when you moved to France. You uprooted
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: your life and you were.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Dealing with a climate of.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Discomfort, trying to figure out how to feel more comfortable
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: in your body and embrace what is to get to
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: where you want to be. You have an opportunity to
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: give that woman some advice right now, knowing what you know, Now,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: what do you tell her?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I tell her, No matter what you're going through right now,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: it's going to be really challenging. It's going to be
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: really difficult, but to dive into it and enjoy that
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: process because ultimately you are going to get to your goal.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: You're going to be a professional on the US women's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: national team, will be consistently there. So you just need
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to get through this moment. It's one of those It's
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: one of those hurdles that you will go through in
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: your career, and there's going to be more of them.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: This is just one that you have to get.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Over, just one that you have to get over, another
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: hurdle to conquer. All Right, Before I let you go,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: you have to recommend one person that I should sit
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: down with and interview this coming season.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Who do you recommend?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Who would I recommend? I think I'm gonna say Mallory Pew.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: All right, Mallory, you've been nominated. I'm so excited that
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: we were able to do this today. Lindsay, For those
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: that don't follow along with you just yet, how do
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: they keep up with you?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Give me your dats Instagram it's Lindsay herand ten. I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: think I hope it's Lindsay herand Dan. It's really bad
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: that I don't know that. I don't really use Twitter anymore,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: but it's there every once in a while. But you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: can also watch Olympic leone on de own and watch
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: our Champions League game this Sunday. Please, it's gonna be
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a big one. That's how you can keep up with
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: me watching soccer.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Or you can try to anyway. I'm over at Emily
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Abadi and at Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: guys next time.