Latest / The Bluegrass Blues Podcast / The Bluegrass Blues Podcast: Episode 10
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- 0:00This is the Bluegrass Blues Podcast. I'm Amy
- 0:03and I'm Jesse. Well, today's going to be interesting
- 0:14because we have some construction work going
- 0:17on in the house. We're getting a new bathroom
- 0:19put in, so you might hear some hammering downstairs
- 0:23because they're putting up drywall on the second
- 0:26floor as well as the first floor. And what else
- 0:31is going on? Well, we have airplanes going overhead
- 0:34because we are still on the flight path. And
- 0:36you might hear in the background cicadas because
- 0:40we're in that 17 -year cycle. And this is the
- 0:43Brood 14, which is now, it seems to be all over
- 0:48the place. It's almost like hearing a spaceship
- 0:52land with the noise they're making. You know,
- 0:56this is the kind of stuff we expect to hear like
- 0:59we're out in the country and here we are in the
- 1:01city. So that's really weird looking. But one
- 1:06thing that's happened recently is we bought a
- 1:09property out in the country. It's in Nelson County
- 1:13and it's adjacent to the Bernheim Forest. So
- 1:16I was out there last week or the week before
- 1:21just looking around and one of the first things
- 1:23I noticed was poisonous snakes. There are tons
- 1:28of poisonous snakes out there. And Amy, you work
- 1:31at Bernheimer. You do some guiding things there.
- 1:35Can you tell me what dangerous animals I should
- 1:37be watching out for? There are just two venomous
- 1:40snakes in Kentucky, and you happen to have quite
- 1:44a few copperheads on your property, as I understand.
- 1:48Yeah, there were at least 14 we've found so far.
- 1:52Wow, that is a lot. You know, many of us that
- 1:56have worked at Bernheim for years and those of
- 1:59us who are naturalists have never seen venomous
- 2:02snakes in all the time that we've been out in
- 2:06Bernheim. They're also the other venomous snake
- 2:08is a rattlesnake. But mostly what we try to do
- 2:12at Bernheim is educate the public so that they're
- 2:16not afraid of the regular snakes that are not
- 2:19venomous and are not harmful and are beneficial
- 2:22to the environment. And so there are many of
- 2:25those. And when we have kids and they're walking
- 2:28out in the creek and stuff, we get really excited
- 2:31if we see a snake and we show them the snake.
- 2:35And then they are sensitized to it and then they're
- 2:38not going to harm the snake. And that's the same
- 2:40thing with bugs. By the way, a little pitch for
- 2:43Bernheim, Bug Fest is coming up on September
- 2:4720th. And this is an event you do not want to
- 2:51miss. I mean, if you love bugs, if you're afraid
- 2:55of bugs, if you are bug neutral, there's a bug
- 2:58parade. There's this guy who has a podcast and
- 3:03a website called All Bugs Go to Kevin because
- 3:07his name is Kevin. Pretty clever. He lives in
- 3:11Evansville. He's coming down for that. You've
- 3:12got to come to Bugfest. I think it's September
- 3:1420th from 11 to 3. And you can say hi to me because
- 3:18I will be out there just getting my geek on with
- 3:21as many bugs as I can find. And there are a lot
- 3:24of things going on in Bernheim. I was told that
- 3:26there was like some musical event recently. Yeah,
- 3:29it was so fun. It was called Connect. And it
- 3:33goes from like 6 .34 p .m. to 11 .34 p .m., and
- 3:39it was a couple weeks ago. And basically what
- 3:42happens is they have artists set up installation.
- 3:47They have entertainment, so there are bands that
- 3:51are set up on their stages. And you can come,
- 3:54you can have an adult beverage, you can have
- 3:56a non -alcoholic beverage, you can have food.
- 4:00And you can listen to great music and see really
- 4:02cool art. And they, I mean, some of my favorite
- 4:05things were they had a laser show that they basically
- 4:08emitted onto a tree canopy. And it was pretty
- 4:12trippy. I have a feeling if some of us were,
- 4:16you know, partaking in some fun things that watching
- 4:19that laser show was probably pretty fun. But
- 4:22one of my favorite things is the Astronomy Society
- 4:26sets up their telescopes. And so we saw all kinds
- 4:30of really cool stars. And then at about 1130,
- 4:34Saturn was rising. And I got to tell you, I'm
- 4:3862. One of the coolest things I have ever seen
- 4:41through a telescope is Saturn with its ring.
- 4:44Yeah, it's just extraordinary, and it also reminds
- 4:47you that you are a speck of a speck of a speck
- 4:50of a speck of stardust on this very small planet.
- 4:54And that's one of the things I'm going to find
- 4:56interesting about having property out in the
- 5:00forest, because there's no light pollution there,
- 5:04and it's just stars and stars forever. You're
- 5:08going to see meteor showers. You're going to
- 5:10see the Milky Way. I remember when I was in England,
- 5:13we lived at a property that was just really far
- 5:18from London, maybe an hour and a half away from
- 5:21London, out in the country. And at night, we
- 5:23could go outside and we could actually see satellites
- 5:27go across the sky, which was just amazing. You
- 5:30can see those at Bernheim. We saw them the last
- 5:32time I was there. You'll see them at your place.
- 5:35Yeah, I know, if the snakes don't scare me into
- 5:38the house again. And you were talking about just
- 5:42the musical thing going on there, and just one
- 5:45thing that quickly came to my mind is that Teddy
- 5:49Abrams, who's the musical director of the Louisville
- 5:52Orchestra, has just signed a contract to stay
- 5:55in Louisville for another three years, which
- 5:58is... really a big deal because he's well known
- 6:01throughout the country. I think he's a Grammy
- 6:03Award winner, or the orchestra has won Grammy
- 6:05Awards. And what surprises me, or I don't know
- 6:09if it's surprising to me, but there was an opening
- 6:13that's just opened up at the San Francisco Symphony.
- 6:17And one of the things I was thinking was that,
- 6:20oh, well, that's something that they'll offer
- 6:22Teddy. But, you know, he didn't. Either he hasn't
- 6:26been approached for it or he has been approached
- 6:28for it and isn't taking it, but it's really interesting
- 6:31that he's decided to stay in Louisville, and
- 6:34you have a better angle on why that is. Well,
- 6:37I think Teddy is a tour de force here, and he
- 6:41also has so much creative freedom. He has taken
- 6:46the orchestra all throughout the city, to schools,
- 6:49all throughout the state. He wrote an orchestral
- 6:52piece to be played underneath Mammoth Cave in
- 6:58the Great Hall of Mammoth Cave with Yo -Yo Ma.
- 7:01I was standing like four feet away from Yo -Yo
- 7:05Ma during this performance in Mammoth Cave. Another
- 7:08epic event that I will never forget. Teddy has
- 7:11so much creative license here, and honestly,
- 7:14if he goes to a larger market i think the board
- 7:17of directors i think i think things will box
- 7:20him you know the structure will box him in in
- 7:23a way that he is just free here right there's
- 7:27so much more creative freedom for him here plus
- 7:30to be honest the cost of living is not as it's
- 7:34not very much here compared to somewhere like
- 7:37San Francisco where you have to be millionaire
- 7:39to buy a house because the cheapest houses are
- 7:43a million dollars so it's good for Louisville
- 7:46it's also something that we hope the public takes
- 7:51advantage of because there are a lot of offerings
- 7:55that Louisville has to has in terms of the arts
- 7:58but there are also things that we have to worry
- 8:01about here because there's another event coming
- 8:04up next week on the I forget, we're on the...
- 8:09On the Belvedere? Yeah. So this weekend is World
- 8:11Fest. It's Labor Day weekend. So August 29th
- 8:17is September 1st, and it's the 23rd annual World
- 8:21Fest. it's it attracts more than 150 000 people
- 8:25over the four -day liberty weekend really popular
- 8:28and it basically celebrates and showcases all
- 8:32of the diverse international cultures and communities
- 8:34that make up Louisville and i'll tell you what
- 8:38i what i'm really concerned about is is this
- 8:41this year just going to be a festival for white
- 8:44people you know to show up at because This would
- 8:48be a prime target for ICE, you know, having all
- 8:51these brown people from around the world. They're
- 8:56citizens of the United States, legal immigrants,
- 9:00et cetera, legal refugees. And ICE could just
- 9:03come and cause so much chaos. You have all these
- 9:06families with children. Just imagine. And I just
- 9:10have a feeling that our very rich, diverse community
- 9:14is going to stay inside for safety. And the other
- 9:18thing to this is that our mayor has proven that
- 9:21he's not going to defend. the immigrants in this
- 9:24city because he's pretty much acquiesced to what
- 9:26the Trump administration wants to do in terms
- 9:29of just letting ICE have free reign here. Now,
- 9:34I'm sure he would say that's not the case, but
- 9:36the fact that they've actually done it so that
- 9:44ICE won't come into the city or Louisville won't
- 9:47be placed on this list of sanctuary cities anymore
- 9:51because the mayor has decided that we're not
- 9:55going to be a sanctuary. We're going to just
- 9:57acquiesce to the Trump administration. I really
- 10:01understand your point about why would anyone
- 10:04of any color go to these events in Louisville
- 10:09when the mayor has shown that he's not going
- 10:11to defend people. And this, you know, it says
- 10:14that 150 international vendors are going to present
- 10:18their arts, merchandise, food, and beverages.
- 10:20And then it says a parade of cultures is going
- 10:23to take place with nearly a thousand participants
- 10:26celebrating all the diverse cultures in Louisville.
- 10:29I don't know. Is this really going to happen
- 10:32or what? I don't know. These are some of the
- 10:38concerns we have because these are important
- 10:42things to do because it does show the diversity
- 10:44of the community and how much everyone has to
- 10:48offer to Louisville being really the place to
- 10:52be in Kentucky in terms of... freedom of thought,
- 10:56learning about different cultures, having better
- 11:01choices to deal with than what's being offered
- 11:05in other parts of the state. But again, we have
- 11:08this situation where the Democratic leadership
- 11:10doesn't stand up for anything. And you can just
- 11:14compare that to what happened in Illinois this
- 11:16week, where the governor... And the mayor of
- 11:19Chicago and all the political leaders in Illinois
- 11:23got together. They were all Democrats. And they
- 11:26stood up to the Trump administration's plan to
- 11:29bring soldiers into Chicago. They're talking
- 11:32about bringing the National Guard into Chicago,
- 11:35which they've already done in Washington, D .C.
- 11:39They've already done this in Los Angeles. This
- 11:42is just another step toward an authoritarian
- 11:44rule. You know, Democrats here don't do that.
- 11:50And that really is annoying. Like last week,
- 11:53one of the Republican representatives was talking
- 11:58about redistricting in Kentucky. And that's another
- 12:03thing that's been going around recently where
- 12:05Texas has decided to redistrict in order to add
- 12:10five more Republican seats to Congress. And California
- 12:14is countering that. by redistricting as well
- 12:18so they'll bring more democratic seats and Andy
- 12:22Beshear to his credit had said that that's a
- 12:26good thing that you know redistricting is wrong
- 12:29if you're going to do it just to give your side
- 12:33an advantage but that's what Texas is doing and
- 12:36so California's saying okay well if you're going
- 12:38to do that we're going to do it and when Beshear
- 12:41said that He supported those efforts in California.
- 12:45Some Republican here said, well, maybe we'll
- 12:48redistrict the seats in Kentucky. They have every
- 12:53congressional seat in Kentucky, with the exception
- 12:56of the one in Louisville. There's five altogether,
- 13:00and four are red. Yeah, and that's Morgan McGarvey.
- 13:03And what really bothered me about this is that
- 13:07when the Republicans said that, I saw nothing.
- 13:11covered about what McGarvey was saying in terms
- 13:14of that because if i were the uh the democratic
- 13:17representative here and someone said that they
- 13:20were going to redistrict to get me out of my
- 13:22seat I would just go nuclear you know and I
- 13:27would say horrible things about them um i would
- 13:30be out in the state going through all the districts
- 13:33where Republicans aren't holding town hall meetings
- 13:36and as a Democrat i would be there saying Here,
- 13:40I'm here talking to you. You're not my constituents,
- 13:43but I'm listening to you, whereas your representative
- 13:47won't even show his face because either he's
- 13:52afraid of you or he doesn't care. And I say he
- 13:55because there are only men who are representatives
- 13:58in this state right now. But McGarvey hasn't
- 14:03done anything, And this is a problem that we've
- 14:05talked about in other podcasts, about the lack
- 14:09of resolve by Democrats to deal with what's going
- 14:14on in the country. There are a few Democrats
- 14:18who are going around the country, like Bernie
- 14:21Sanders. He's not a Democrat, but he is affiliated
- 14:25with the Democratic Party. Ocasio-Cortez, and
- 14:30Tammy Baldwin, who's the legislator from Illinois.
- 14:37She's a senator who lost her legs while serving
- 14:42in the military. She's going to Missouri to talk
- 14:45to red districts there about, you know, the things
- 14:49that the Republicans are doing to hurt their
- 14:52constituents. And she's from Wisconsin. Wisconsin,
- 14:55I'm sorry. It's just really annoying that the
- 15:00Democrats here aren't doing these kinds of things
- 15:02and getting out to the people, but what they're
- 15:05doing is just essentially ceding their influence
- 15:11to the Republican Party, which has ceded its
- 15:14influence to Donald Trump. And I was talking
- 15:18to someone at lunch about this very issue, and
- 15:21she thinks that... People are now just very,
- 15:26very afraid. This is what happens with the rise
- 15:29of authoritarianism, right? And so people are
- 15:32afraid they're going to lose their jobs because
- 15:34now, you know, they're paid a lot, right? And
- 15:36I don't want to lose my job. Or they're afraid
- 15:39that their family is going to be targeted. Or
- 15:41they're afraid, as you know, like at the Federal
- 15:44Reserve Bank, what's going on with Ms. Cook,
- 15:47you know, and he wants to fire a Federal Reserve
- 15:50Board governor. And she's suing him. But, you
- 15:53know, there aren't a lot of people that are standing
- 15:55up to Donald Trump because they're really acting
- 15:58in fear. You know, and I have compassion for
- 16:03people who want to be safe. But our democracy
- 16:06is fraying. I mean, it's imploding, really. Every
- 16:11single day something horrible is happening to
- 16:13it. And we need leadership on the Democratic
- 16:15side. I don't see it. We're now in an authoritarian
- 16:19state, which... Well, the reality is that for
- 16:25certain members of the population in America,
- 16:28it's always been an authoritarian state. Now
- 16:32it's like getting public notice because white
- 16:37people are affected by it more than they were
- 16:40in the past. You go back in history, there's
- 16:45Jim Crow, there was slavery, there were acts
- 16:47that were designed to take away responsibility
- 16:51or rights from people from Latin America. There
- 16:56were laws passed against the Asian community.
- 17:01So authoritarianism has always been here, but
- 17:05now it's... more blatant than it's ever been
- 17:08because in the past you had the feeling that
- 17:11at least the courts would stop this. But we're
- 17:15now in this situation where the courts are not
- 17:18doing anything or the courts have been so stacked
- 17:24with Republican, by Republican legislators that
- 17:27anything that we thought was safe in the past
- 17:31is now up for grabs. Just this whole thing with
- 17:36We talked about the targeting of trans children
- 17:42in the past. That's something that is this idea
- 17:48that you're going after the weakest or the people
- 17:54who are most vulnerable for your authoritarian
- 17:57efforts. And once they get rid of the trans people,
- 18:02as they want to do, then... they'll go for gay
- 18:06marriage. I saw that they're now talking about
- 18:10reversing interracial marriage, which, you know,
- 18:15this is... Last year, two years ago, we would
- 18:18say, oh, this is impossible, that's never going
- 18:20to happen. But three years ago, we were saying
- 18:22that Roe v. White would never be overturned.
- 18:24And this movement toward this authoritarian effort
- 18:31doesn't seem to be... It doesn't seem to be raising
- 18:36the concern that it should be raising. And I
- 18:40want to just diverge here or go off into a tangent
- 18:43here, but I don't watch TV news. I just avoid
- 18:47it because I don't think they do a very good
- 18:50job. But I was in the doctor's office this week,
- 18:54and they have television going on in the background.
- 18:58And one of the things that happened was... The
- 19:02person who covers the White House for CBS News
- 19:05was on the air talking about Taylor Swift's engagement
- 19:09to Kelsey and Travis Kelsey. And I was thinking,
- 19:16wait a minute, you're the White House correspondent
- 19:18and you're excited about this pop star and football
- 19:23player getting married? But, you know, it was
- 19:27the worst part was she did it on a Tuesday. And
- 19:31they were still talking about it like happily
- 19:34on a Wednesday. So there's like this disconnect
- 19:39in American media about what's really going on
- 19:43now. I know it's about ratings and I know it's
- 19:49about getting people on watching your broadcast,
- 19:54but you don't have the White House correspondent
- 19:57talking about Taylor Swift. That's just not right.
- 20:01And the other thing was, if you listen to daytime
- 20:04television, there's a lot of daytime talk shows
- 20:08where it's annoying listening to the platitudes
- 20:13and all this feel -good effort that they're trying
- 20:18to do when there's nothing to feel good about.
- 20:21And you had said something that the courts aren't
- 20:24doing anything. I would argue that there are
- 20:27judges that are fighting the good fight. We have
- 20:31an executive branch now that has basically carte
- 20:36blanche to do whatever they want to do, including
- 20:39putting these Stalin -esque banners of Trump
- 20:42everywhere, right? I mean, come on, he could
- 20:45be Hitler, he could be Saddam Hussein, Stalin.
- 20:48He just... you know of course project 2025 is
- 20:52he's the figurehead then you have the legislative
- 20:54branch which we would argue isn't doing anything
- 20:58on either side of the aisle now so we've been
- 21:01really hoping that the judicial branch would
- 21:04step up and as you said Mitch McConnell our own
- 21:07senior senator was a major force of blocking
- 21:13federal judgeships when Obama was president.
- 21:16He stole a Supreme Court seat. Exactly. But I
- 21:21do want to say that there are judges fighting
- 21:25the good fight. It just does seem like all three
- 21:28branches of government are collapsing. Well,
- 21:30I agree with you on the judges. There are judges
- 21:33who are trying to stop this craziness, but it
- 21:37goes to the Supreme Court, and there are only...
- 21:41three justices left who are going to defend us.
- 21:44It's Kagan, Jackson, and Sotomayor. But the rest
- 21:52are, you know, it's a six to three court on all
- 21:55these things. And there are no moderates on the
- 22:00court anymore from what I can tell. They're either
- 22:03very far right. And I'm not going to say the
- 22:06liberals are far left, because they're not. But
- 22:10there's just this imbalance, which people in
- 22:14general don't seem to understand. And that's
- 22:18another thing I'm seeing as I watch people talk
- 22:21about what's going on in the country, where people
- 22:25just don't know what's going on. South Park has
- 22:31been doing these really weird... attacks on the
- 22:34Trump administration. And I watch people talking
- 22:37about these episodes and they have no idea that,
- 22:41like, Kristi Noem actually shot a dog in the
- 22:43face. Right. Or that Donald Trump is just...
- 22:47A convicted felon. Yeah. 34 times while he's
- 22:50trying to... Yeah, put other people, accuse other
- 22:54people of being, of doing illegal things when
- 22:58he has been convicted of doing illegal things.
- 23:01How do you spell hypocrite? D -O -N -A -L -D
- 23:04-T -R -U -M -P, that's how you spell it. But,
- 23:07you know, it's things that we have to keep an
- 23:13eye on, but it's also, we have to hold. not only
- 23:17Republicans accountable, but we have to hold
- 23:19Democrats accountable for what they're doing
- 23:22because I don't know what Chuck Schumer is doing.
- 23:25I have no faith in what he does anymore. You
- 23:28know, Hakeem Jeffries, I had great hopes for
- 23:31him, but I don't see him doing that much. And
- 23:35our congressman is really doing nothing. I think
- 23:39he's like a non-entity. And, you know, if...
- 23:44Let's say the Republicans did redistrict and
- 23:47redistricted him out. Would anyone notice? That's
- 23:51what really bothers me about him more than anything,
- 23:54is that I really feel that if you go out into
- 23:58the city and you ask, who's your congressman?
- 24:01People are not going to, they'll have no idea,
- 24:04but they can tell you who the congresswoman from
- 24:07the Bronx is, and they can tell you who the Texas,
- 24:11the black Texas Democrat is who's giving Marjorie
- 24:14Taylor Green a hard time. Well, my experience,
- 24:17though, is if you're, if you live in the, and
- 24:20this is a generalization, but if you live in
- 24:22the Highlands, if you live in Crescent Hill,
- 24:25maybe Old Louisville, you know who Morgan McGarvey
- 24:28is. And you've seen him and you like him because
- 24:31he shows up at your stuff. And my feeling is
- 24:35he does the bare minimum. And we need him. We
- 24:40need him out there. We need him out there. Just
- 24:42yelling. He's the only one in the whole state.
- 24:45He should be out there. Well, he and Beshear,
- 24:50Andy Beshear. That's the only other Democrat in
- 24:53the state. I know there's a lieutenant governor,
- 24:55but I don't know who that is. Coleman. She's
- 24:58probably going to, she's running for governor.
- 25:00Right. But people don't know who she is. Right.
- 25:02No one knows. And she'll, it's possible she'll
- 25:05be running against James Comey because there's
- 25:08some speculation. Comer. Comer, right. Comey
- 25:11was the FBI director. Right. But Comer, who's
- 25:14definitely a MAGA Trump bootlicker. he could
- 25:20be running for governor and he could win. So
- 25:23I have a lot of people that I talk to about all
- 25:27this stuff, right? And one of the things, actually,
- 25:32I was with a friend. She's an African -American
- 25:35woman, a bit older than I. We both went to Wesleyan
- 25:38together and we had lunch today. Her daughter
- 25:41is a dean at a... state school, not in this state,
- 25:47but in another state. And she was told last week
- 25:52that she was losing her job. DEI came up and
- 25:57they're moving her over to another school. And
- 26:00so far, she has her salary through the end of
- 26:03the year. So I am talking to so many people.
- 26:07And she also has a daughter who works at FEMA.
- 26:10And, you know, there's just so much uncertainty.
- 26:15around us. So one of the things my friend said
- 26:17was, am I doing enough? And she said, you know,
- 26:21we always asked as young people, like, what will
- 26:25we have done in Germany during World War II?
- 26:27What will we have done? And she says to me, this
- 26:30is now. This is now. We are here. What are we
- 26:35doing? And so I showed her the Five Calls app.
- 26:39She didn't know about that app. And so she's
- 26:41got the app. And then I talked to her about some
- 26:43other ways to plug in. And she's really talented.
- 26:47And we came up with some other ways for her to
- 26:49use her special skills and strengths. But one
- 26:52of the things that is really helping me find
- 26:55some serenity now, because I just think that
- 26:57all this stuff overwhelms us. All of this stuff
- 27:01is meant to deplete us and distract us so that
- 27:05we... you know, hide in our homes and do nothing,
- 27:08especially white people. And so what I'm doing
- 27:12now is I've gone back to yoga and it is. it is
- 27:17really changing my life because i get really
- 27:21present and i'm focused on my breath and for
- 27:23an hour or an hour and 15 minutes i'm breathing
- 27:27i'm stretching i'm in mountain pose or warrior
- 27:32pose and i'm strong and i'm getting stronger
- 27:35and it just it's really helping me the rest of
- 27:39the day when I'm out there being of service and
- 27:42community. So that's one thing that I'm finding
- 27:45is really helping me right now, and I think exercise
- 27:48is really critical. Did you participate in the
- 27:51yoga in Central Park this year? I didn't go,
- 27:54ever. It was on my calendar, and I was usually
- 27:58at Bernheim those mornings. Yeah, because it
- 28:00was Saturday mornings. from June until now, where
- 28:05people just get together on the stage that the
- 28:08Kentucky Shakespeare has its plays on. And I
- 28:13walked by a couple of times, and there are just
- 28:15dozens of people just doing yoga in the park.
- 28:18Which is awesome. It's accessible. It's free.
- 28:21It's right in the middle of a community, a very
- 28:24diverse community. Props to them. The other thing
- 28:29I wanted to mention, I've already mentioned nature.
- 28:31But I just find being outside, my heart rate
- 28:36goes down. I breathe more deeply. I'm much more
- 28:40aware of being small in the natural world. And
- 28:43I'm reminded of the natural world. And then I
- 28:45can do things like buy my swamp milkweed so I
- 28:48can attract monarch butterflies. And that's a
- 28:52part. that we can all play too. But I also wanted
- 28:57to mention that I'm in a recovery group, a 12
- 29:00-step program, and you're not supposed to talk
- 29:03about outside issues when you're working the
- 29:06steps in your program. And there are several
- 29:08of us who don't have family members that necessarily
- 29:12agree with us, and we don't have safe... places
- 29:14to talk so we are getting together monthly and
- 29:18there's a grief book in our program that we're
- 29:21using and instead of the particular addiction
- 29:24that has affected our lives or other family members
- 29:28lives we are using this dysfunctional government
- 29:33as that addict and we are coming together with
- 29:38ways to be strong and powerful and use our sphere
- 29:43of influence um during this time and it that
- 29:46has been really helpful and and these women don't
- 29:49have any other safe place to go typically to
- 29:51just express their concern or their fear or their
- 29:55rage um with other people so i i highly encourage
- 30:00everybody to find your people now right yeah
- 30:03we're um i i actually are i'm doing walks every
- 30:09day like i've been doing from five to eight miles
- 30:13a day just walking around the city and you know
- 30:16i'm just seeing a lot of interesting things like
- 30:19i usually walk from my place in Old Louisville
- 30:22through the UofL campus i walk past all of the
- 30:25athletic fields so you know we'll i'll see students
- 30:31student athletes just in training for whatever
- 30:35event because I passed the lacrosse field and
- 30:38I saw the women's team out there the other day
- 30:40and I passed the soccer field and I see the men's
- 30:43and women's teams doing practice there during
- 30:46the summer I walked by the baseball field and
- 30:49saw the baseball team doing things and you know
- 30:54it's just it's good to see just there's a lot
- 30:58of stuff going on on campus which is also free
- 31:01like they're free sports um you do have to pay
- 31:05for some of the sports but for the most part
- 31:06you can go and watch student athletes do their
- 31:10their thing i've also been walking a lot around
- 31:15the downtown area and you know those are like
- 31:19more substantive walks because I'm seeing things
- 31:23I didn't know were here. For example, I didn't
- 31:27know that there's like a whole kind of music
- 31:28row on Main Street at night. There's a lot of
- 31:33bars and just places where musicians will perform.
- 31:40I've walked by the Louisville Ballet building
- 31:42on Main Street and there are things that they're
- 31:45advertising that I want to go see like there's
- 31:48supposed to be a ballet of Dracula in mid -October
- 31:52which looks really interesting and I walked by
- 31:56the baseball field just yesterday just to see
- 31:59what what's there and it's you know it's a cincinnati
- 32:02uh reds farm team is the Louisville Bats so you
- 32:07know there's there are things to do downtown
- 32:09plus there are tons of restaurants um that you
- 32:13know i just never get to because i don't think
- 32:16in terms of going downtown when i'm going out
- 32:18to eat i'm usually going along Bardstown Road
- 32:21or something But they're just really high -end
- 32:24restaurants there. 21C near the Muhammad Ali
- 32:29Museum. Mayan Cafe is my favorite restaurant
- 32:33in town. And I just got to give them props because...
- 32:37They show up for our nonprofit community. I'm
- 32:40on the board of Feed Louisville, and they feed
- 32:42us at our board meetings. They're feeding us
- 32:45at our board retreat. They are of service to
- 32:48so many good causes. That's another way to use
- 32:52your power is to find out the local businesses
- 32:55that are supporting our cause and throw the money.
- 32:59Down there right now on Main Street, there's
- 33:02infrastructure work, and some of the businesses
- 33:05are being impacted by it. you know, road work
- 33:08and things like that. So know thy businesses
- 33:11and spend thy money wisely. I mean, that's a
- 33:14form of protest right there. Right, and while
- 33:17we're talking about helping out the restaurants
- 33:19here, let's note that Churchill Downs is doing
- 33:22everything it can to destroy the restaurant scene
- 33:24downtown because they've signed these deals,
- 33:28especially around Derby time, that pretty much
- 33:31force... everybody to stay at the Downs for whatever
- 33:36events are going on. And the things they're doing
- 33:40are actually hurting the restaurants in Louisville.
- 33:43I was, well, we were at this, the Japanese place.
- 33:47Nami? Oh, not the Japanese place. Yeah, it was
- 33:51near, not far from Cherokee Park. But we, maybe
- 33:57you weren't there. Well, I think you were there,
- 33:59but we were at, we... We were told by the owner
- 34:03that they have to close on the Derby because
- 34:07they close off the road in there. Oh, no, that
- 34:11wasn't Cherokee Park. That was the place on Woodlawn
- 34:16Avenue in the South End. And that's a really
- 34:19cool place to support. It's sort of like Logan
- 34:22Street Market in the South End. And he said they
- 34:25basically have to close up because you can't
- 34:27get there. They close the exits off the expressway.
- 34:30You can't even access their restaurants. Right.
- 34:33And the other thing was that there are a lot
- 34:34of restaurants that have sent letters, just written
- 34:38letters to the editor saying that what Churchill
- 34:41Downs is doing is killing the restaurant industry
- 34:46here because they're, especially during Derby
- 34:49Week, because they're sort of confining people
- 34:52to the Downs. Right. Which... you know is what
- 34:55they're going to do because Churchill Downs is
- 34:57a corporation and its loyalty is not to the community
- 35:02that built it up it's to its shareholders which
- 35:05we we're hearing a lot about you know this being
- 35:08responsible for shareholders but not really caring
- 35:11about the community because Churchill Downs really
- 35:14doesn't sponsor anything in town um maybe it
- 35:19does but I haven't I get the feeling that they
- 35:21don't do anything out of the ordinary to
- 35:25let people know that Louisville is a place to
- 35:29be. They only are interested in, you know, getting
- 35:32all the rich people to come to the Derby for
- 35:35Derby Week and containing everybody at the Downs.
- 35:39Like, what was it? Now they've got Derby going
- 35:43on, so Thursdays are closed off. They made this
- 35:47deal with NBC that will show the Oaks on Friday
- 35:51night. which is like one of the big days for
- 35:55restaurants in town like Derby weekend a Friday
- 35:59night is a big thing but they've moved the hours
- 36:03of the running of the Oaks to a later time so
- 36:06people aren't going to go out to eat afterwards
- 36:09they'll just eat at the downs You know, to your
- 36:11point, I was looking up the Churchill Downs Foundation
- 36:14and I really haven't known any nonprofit that
- 36:18has gotten money. And, you know, the house always
- 36:20wins, Jesse. So what I was thinking about was
- 36:23like going to Bellagio in Las Vegas. And, of
- 36:26course, they want you to eat at the Bellagio
- 36:29and spend all your money and stay at the Bellagio
- 36:31so that they've got a captive audience, right?
- 36:33So you spend all your money. So I was looking
- 36:35at the Churchill Downs Foundation and, you know,
- 36:38obviously the house. always wins so they're making
- 36:41a lot of money and they boast that they gave
- 36:45over five million dollars in charitable grants
- 36:48and in kind donations every year to over 800
- 36:52organizations I mean if you do the math that's
- 36:55like $20 an organization right now five million
- 36:57dollars is not dropping It's not much at all,
- 37:01considering the money that they're getting from
- 37:04the TV rights to the Derby, and just from the...
- 37:07And all the people going. And the ticket prices
- 37:10are just astronomical now, because I think I've
- 37:14said this before, I went to the Derby years ago,
- 37:17and I think the last one I went to was when American
- 37:20Pharoah won the race. And the thing was, I could
- 37:25afford tickets, like we could get a box, and...
- 37:29yes the tickets were steep but they were within
- 37:33range like it's like okay this is going to be
- 37:35luxury for the year but now a couple years later
- 37:39i went to get tickets because i had some family
- 37:40members who wanted to come into town and the
- 37:43ticket prices had at least tripled yeah and there's
- 37:46just no way to afford that unless you're very
- 37:49rich which is what Churchill Downs is appealing
- 37:51to and you know, what happens to the average
- 37:55consumer or the person who just wants to take
- 37:59part in what is culturally, something that's
- 38:03culturally relevant in town. Right. You know,
- 38:06speaking of Churchill Downs, my son and I, well,
- 38:09we went to Vietnam Kitchen for lunch. He's just
- 38:11back from college and his summer camp job. Worst
- 38:15Vietnam Kitchen? Vietnam Kitchen is on the south
- 38:17end. And then we went to the Kroger near Churchill
- 38:21Downs. I think you all go to that Kroger. And
- 38:24I asked my son, I'm like, so I have two young
- 38:28adults in my house right now. One's about to
- 38:30move out. I said, how much do you think our groceries
- 38:32are going to cost this week? And he guessed $175.
- 38:37And I guessed $250. and it was $253. And this
- 38:44didn't even include things like pet food or like
- 38:47the big staple things that might cost a lot of
- 38:50money. This was food for three people for the
- 38:55week. So, you know, I oftentimes think that we're
- 38:59like frogs in boiling water, and it just gets
- 39:03hotter and hotter, and we look away from the
- 39:07tragedies, and we just keep... I don't know,
- 39:10like swimming in boiling water until what? We
- 39:13boil. We boil. We die. We die. That's what happens.
- 39:18Speaking of good things, though, can I transition
- 39:21into some fun stuff coming up? Sure. We need
- 39:24some fun here. All right. So workers over billionaires.
- 39:28I'm looking at a very creative graphic with a
- 39:32megaphone with workers over billionaires in Lexington
- 39:35on Labor Day, Monday, September 1st. from 5 to
- 39:408 p .m. Show up at Courthouse Plaza, which is
- 39:44120 North Limestone. North Limestone, is that
- 39:49like a street or something? Yeah, North Limestone
- 39:51is in Lexington, Kentucky, Courthouse Plaza,
- 39:54Labor Day, 5 to 8 p .m. And show up for that.
- 39:58That'll be a great... protest i don't see an
- 40:02equivalent protest in Louisville, which surprises
- 40:05me but you know a lot of these are mostly you
- 40:08know volunteer run this is another thing like
- 40:10oh my god where where is the leadership you know
- 40:14um now apparently morgan speaking of morgan mcgarvey
- 40:19if you want to if you want to show up and like
- 40:22really you know ask him what's going on he is
- 40:26showing up for a town hall saturday this saturday
- 40:30august 30th from 11 a .m to 12 p .m all of one
- 40:34hour and you cannot find the location until you
- 40:38RSVP. So there are access barriers here and the
- 40:42time duration is pretty small. But Saturday,
- 40:46August 30th, 11 to 12, he's having a town hall.
- 40:50And if you go to the Louisville Democratic Party's
- 40:54website or their Facebook page, you can register
- 40:57to find out where. the town hall is just why
- 41:00would he do that i don't understand why you just
- 41:03don't say here everybody this is where i'm going
- 41:05to be because we live in a fascist country now
- 41:08and everybody's afraid i don't know it seems
- 41:13legal to have a town hall oh yeah yeah and um
- 41:17if you're going to represent your constituents
- 41:20you should let your constituents know where you're
- 41:23going to be but maybe I have no good reason for
- 41:29that kind of action. It makes no sense. And those
- 41:35are the biggies that I have. You know, one of
- 41:38the things that struck me, and I always forget
- 41:42this, but I didn't realize we're coming into
- 41:45a holiday weekend. I've been working for, like,
- 41:49my whole career I've been working, and I've worked
- 41:53on holiday weekends. And it just never strikes
- 41:56me that, oh, there's another one coming up. But
- 41:59this is Labor Day. And, you know, this is a time
- 42:03to celebrate the worker. We have to do, you know,
- 42:07the fact that you talked about the situation
- 42:10with, did we talk about the unions, the unionization
- 42:15effort? Yeah. Yeah, well, just, you know, we're
- 42:18talking about how the unions are. have weakened
- 42:23over the years. I think 9 .9 % of all workers
- 42:28are unionized now. It's really bad, but unions
- 42:33are responsible for things like the five -day
- 42:36work week and for things like a fair wage for
- 42:39work. But I don't know why people have been brainwashed
- 42:45into thinking that unions are bad, other than...
- 42:49because unions were at one point representing
- 42:52everybody no matter what race. And there was
- 42:56this, I think one of the arguments against unions
- 42:59in the past from the white person perspective
- 43:03was that, oh, they're going to give black people
- 43:05jobs and take away your jobs. But the unions
- 43:09have been really important just in terms of making
- 43:14sure people are getting a fair wage. And we've
- 43:16learned over the years that billionaire class
- 43:20is not for a fair wage it's for just getting
- 43:23all the money like if you're in a company where
- 43:27your chief executive or the owner of the company
- 43:29is a billionaire what that means is that you're
- 43:33not getting any money for your work it's all
- 43:35going to the billionaire who can easily easily
- 43:39like But what about trickle -down economics,
- 43:42Jesse? Yes, from the Reagan administration, and
- 43:45that proved to be a waste of time and a waste
- 43:48of effort. But it's like people have been conned
- 43:51into believing that there's a certain altruism
- 43:56in the billionaire class, which never existed
- 44:00and never is going to exist. And I've said this
- 44:05many times. If Elon Musk gave away 99 % of his
- 44:09wealth, he'd still have $3 billion. And that's
- 44:14just, can you imagine what could be done with
- 44:16the $297 billion that he's hoarding? He's a hoarder.
- 44:23Well, while he's doing that, and while he's profiting
- 44:26off of the slashing of poor people's programs
- 44:32like... nutrition, health care, USAID, all these
- 44:38families now across the world are going to die
- 44:40of malaria and all kinds of preventable illnesses.
- 44:44And all these families in America are going to
- 44:47die because of the lack of health care, the lack
- 44:50of money for food. Just these things that should
- 44:55be, you know, there's this idea that, or idea
- 45:00on the right that you shouldn't have. free health
- 45:04care for people which is just a ridiculous argument
- 45:08that health care should be free um but there
- 45:11is there is the profit motive behind it all and
- 45:15you know people don't well people of the super
- 45:21rich class don't believe in giving anything to
- 45:24anyone they just want it all for themselves like
- 45:28you you listen to congressmen there was a guy
- 45:31i guess in I forget which state, might have been
- 45:34some Midwestern state, who had a town hall meeting
- 45:38and he gave this example of, do you think that
- 45:42a 23 -year -old who's not working should have
- 45:44free health care? And my mind immediately went,
- 45:48yeah, everyone should have free health care.
- 45:50But he's saying that they're like leeches on
- 45:54society and they don't deserve to get health
- 45:58care if you're not working. But we should note
- 46:01that his wife had cancer and he got free health
- 46:04care for being a legislator. Right. Let me tell
- 46:07you about an experience I just had today. So
- 46:10I go to CVS to pick up a couple of prescriptions
- 46:13and the pharmacist asked me if I want to get
- 46:16a flu shot. And I said, yes. And then she said,
- 46:19would you like to get a COVID vaccine too? And
- 46:22I said, yes. Could you look up when my last booster
- 46:25was? Which she did. And it was last September.
- 46:29And then she goes in the system and I can't get
- 46:34the, I cannot get the existing COVID booster
- 46:38because I've been approved for the new COVID
- 46:42vaccine, which they don't have, which I'm denied
- 46:46for because I'm not 65 years old. And then she
- 46:50tried to fight because I have Crohn's disease
- 46:52that I have this underlying condition that would
- 46:54make. But in other words, I could not get the
- 46:58COVID booster today. And that is right on top
- 47:02of the news about RFK's fight at the CDC. And
- 47:07all I'm hearing now on the news is we're not
- 47:12going to get the COVID vaccine unless you're
- 47:14over 65. And even that might be difficult to
- 47:16get. It was crazy. It was crazy sauce. It is
- 47:21crazy. And while you have a crazy person in charge
- 47:24of the health department who's a former heroin
- 47:27addict, just go through the list of all the bad
- 47:31things that the Trump administration is doing.
- 47:34And people, again, it's amazing to me that people
- 47:39don't pay attention. And again, I'll go back
- 47:43to this, but... It's something you have to blame
- 47:45the media for. This is just a failure on the
- 47:49part of all of the major news organizations to
- 47:53point out that we are in a very dangerous time
- 47:59right now. But as I said earlier, we're in a
- 48:03dangerous time, but the CBS White House correspondent
- 48:06is talking about Taylor Swift. Right. And by
- 48:09the way, you asked me if we had talked about
- 48:11the unionizing. I don't think we did. So Blue
- 48:15Oval SK, which is this major electric vehicle
- 48:21battery maker in Glendale, Kentucky, which is
- 48:25just south of... E -town, Elizabethtown, they
- 48:29have over a thousand workers and they're having
- 48:31a lot of safety complaints about their workplace
- 48:35and they just held a vote to unionize and 526
- 48:41folks voted in favor of organizing while 515
- 48:45opposed so 11 more voted to unionize now the
- 48:49company is holding up the vote because they claim
- 48:52that 41 ballots are being challenged um because
- 48:56they they think they might have been fraudulent
- 48:59so um And this is a nearly $6 billion joint venture
- 49:05between Ford and its South Korean partner. Now,
- 49:09you know what else is interesting to me is I
- 49:11thought all this EV stuff was going to go away.
- 49:14I mean, isn't it being tanked? That's because
- 49:16the Trump administration has been trying to push
- 49:18for cars that aren't electric. But I think in
- 49:22this instance, it's probably something Musk wants.
- 49:26I see. Well, I won't even say it's something
- 49:31Musk wants. I say it's something that Trump has
- 49:34probably been bribed to take because if you are
- 49:38going to do anything with this administration,
- 49:42if you pay tribute. to the Don, which is like
- 49:46a very mafia kind of thing. But if you pay tribute
- 49:49to him, then he will immediately change his tune
- 49:52on whatever it is. And I'll refer back to South
- 49:56Park. Yeah, I was just thinking about South Park
- 49:58and bringing their gifts. As if he's the king.
- 50:01Right, yeah, or as if he's a mafia Don. They're
- 50:03the peasants, yeah. And these rich people like
- 50:07Tim Cook at Apple is giving him this thing. which
- 50:10he really did do. He really did give him this
- 50:12gold -plated thing. And that's the other thing.
- 50:15These people are giving him gold -plated things
- 50:17because they know that's what he likes. 90 ,000
- 50:20-square -foot addition in the White House, and
- 50:22it's all going to be like Versailles. Yeah, it's
- 50:25just really trashy. This is where your taxpayer
- 50:28dollars are going, friends. Right. You either
- 50:31can have a big ballroom in Washington, or you
- 50:33can have your hospital closed. These are the
- 50:36things that... we're trying to, that people should
- 50:40be aware of, and this is what bothers me again
- 50:42about the media, is that they're not harping
- 50:46on these things that really determine what's
- 50:50life and death these days. I agree. And, you
- 50:54know, we talked about this maybe a couple weeks
- 50:57ago, where the Courier -Journal Its lead story
- 51:04on a day where there were other things going
- 51:06on, but its lead story on its homepage was about
- 51:09cakes at the fair, the Kentucky Fair. And we
- 51:13went to the state fair. It was amazing. But regardless,
- 51:18given all the things that are happening in the
- 51:20country these days, If your top story of the
- 51:24day is about the winning cake at the state fair
- 51:27and you're supposed to be the primary news source
- 51:30in the state of Kentucky, that shows that there's
- 51:34a huge failure in terms of what the media is
- 51:37offering. Let them eat cake, Jesse. Yes, it's
- 51:40very Marie Antoinette. We talk about Versailles.
- 51:42We talk about let them eat cake. It's just this,
- 51:46again, this disconnect where I see people. talking
- 51:52about certain things and they don't realize what
- 51:54what actually is going on or they don't know
- 51:57or when they hear something that the Trump administration
- 52:00is doing they don't believe it because they're
- 52:04not hearing it from anywhere else they're either
- 52:06getting their news from Joe Rogan or from Alex
- 52:10Jones or from some other right -wing crazy or
- 52:14just from Fox News which Lies to people all the
- 52:18time because you know, they've lost like this
- 52:21almost billion dollar lawsuit on the whole voting
- 52:25machine scandal but Yeah, on Fox News today,
- 52:30left erupts after Catholic school tragedy, and
- 52:34then it has F with three blanks, like fuck off,
- 52:38with thoughts and prayers. So that's what they're
- 52:42saying. They're attacking the left for saying
- 52:45that enough with thoughts and prayers. Thoughts
- 52:48and prayers and not attacking the person who's
- 52:49the shooter. Right. Right, and not doing anything
- 52:52about this gun violence. Again, we're like frogs
- 52:54in the boiling water. Our children are being
- 52:56gunned down at school. And they have been being
- 53:00gunned down for decades now. Sandy Hook? Sandy
- 53:03Hook, yeah. Those kids would be graduating from
- 53:07high school or even going to college by now.
- 53:10You know, A -list actor diagnosed with infection
- 53:14skips major film festival appearances. Front
- 53:18page. Big League move. Former Yankee star joins
- 53:23political race to defend Trump's America First
- 53:26agenda. Right? Yeah. U .S. Open champ slapped
- 53:30with hefty fine after court meltdown and crowd
- 53:33clash. And then, of course, the Cracker Barrel
- 53:36nonsense. Yes, what's going on? I am not... You
- 53:41know, I don't think people were thinking about
- 53:42Cracker Barrel at all because no one thinks about
- 53:45Cracker Barrel in general. But when they changed
- 53:48its logo, all of a sudden it became this argument
- 53:51against wokeness. And, you know, as I said in
- 53:54our last podcast, the Cracker Barrel, whatever
- 53:59the symbol is, whatever the logo is, is irrelevant.
- 54:02What should interest you about Cracker Barrel
- 54:04is that they have surveillance cameras that are
- 54:07actually identifying you by putting boxes over
- 54:10your face. And if you look at the TV screen in
- 54:14the Cracker Barrel for the surveillance camera,
- 54:16it's like this video identification system that
- 54:21essentially spies on people. And I was talking
- 54:26to someone else about this last week, and they're
- 54:29also doing it in Walmart. So there's all this
- 54:32surveillance going on. They're taking your photo,
- 54:35and people are more concerned about whether Grandpa
- 54:40is still in the Cracker Barrel logo than about
- 54:44being just like... the victim of a surveillance
- 54:48state. Well, get this. The shares of Cracker
- 54:51Barrel Old Country Store rose more than 8 % on
- 54:54Wednesday after the restaurant said it would
- 54:56discard its new logo amid widespread backlash.
- 55:01And these backlashes are created by places like
- 55:04Fox News that are just looking for something
- 55:07to divert attention from the fact that we have
- 55:10a president who's corrupt, who's a rapist. You
- 55:16know, there's no other way to describe it. He's
- 55:19corrupt. He's a dangerous person. He should be
- 55:22the person who goes from door to door saying,
- 55:26I'm a sex offender. But that's not going to happen.
- 55:30And in the meantime, he's firing people for alleged
- 55:35criminal activity. So we've just lost all kinds
- 55:40of rationality. these days we do we have and
- 55:45i i want to mention one other thing and then
- 55:47maybe we should end but i've got colleagues um
- 55:51who are really concerned about the genocide in
- 55:54gaza and 12 of 12 of us met with morgan mcgarvey
- 55:58to basically support the the ban against bombs
- 56:02to israel legislation and you know We don't understand
- 56:08why you wouldn't take a stance if it weren't
- 56:11for money, if it weren't about the money. I mean,
- 56:13how can you possibly support the genocide of
- 56:18people, of kids, all these amputee kids, etc.?
- 56:22It just shows you how far astray we have gone.
- 56:27What do you think he's going to do? Nothing.
- 56:30He's not going to vote against it? No. We asked
- 56:33him to co -sponsor it. I don't think he's going
- 56:36to support it. Then it would be interesting to
- 56:38see if he's getting money from AIPAC. I'm sure
- 56:40he is. And then the amount of money he's getting.
- 56:43But, again, these aren't things you're going
- 56:46to find in our media today. When I was at the
- 56:51Wall Street Journal, one of the things I learned
- 56:53was, if you want to know the reason people do
- 56:57certain things, Look at where the money is going.
- 57:00Always. Follow the money. Just follow the money,
- 57:02and it'll explain a lot of what happens. So with
- 57:06Trump, you know, it's only about money. Like,
- 57:09he will say whatever he can to get more money.
- 57:14He doesn't care about anything other than lining
- 57:18his pockets. And this is probably the most...
- 57:20This has to be the most corrupt administration
- 57:22ever in American history. Right. But, again,
- 57:27we're... the corruption that imagine the corruption
- 57:32that the Republicans were saying about Democratic
- 57:34presidents and compare that to the corruption
- 57:38that Republicans are committing these days and
- 57:41it's there's no comparison there well and what's
- 57:44wild is that it's all happening with all kinds
- 57:47of access to 24 -hour news like You're wearing
- 57:51a watch that tells you everything. It's going
- 57:54to be embedded behind your retina or something
- 57:57in a few years. It's going to be part of our
- 57:59biology. It's not that we can't access information.
- 58:03It's that we are not getting good information.
- 58:05So that's the fourth estate that's failing us.
- 58:09Yeah. Oh, no, it's definitely failing. And one
- 58:12of the things I can just point out in the fourth
- 58:16estate is that back when I was... in the old
- 58:20days when I was a journalist, there were... If
- 58:24you looked at the major news organizations, there
- 58:26was a lot more diversity at the top ranks. At
- 58:30one point, the New York Times had a woman as
- 58:32the managing editor. There was a black person
- 58:37who was executive editor there. At the Washington
- 58:43Post, there were women high up in the ranks.
- 58:50Yeah, at the Washington Post, the woman was...
- 58:51You had a woman publisher. Right. At Dow Jones,
- 58:55there was a woman publisher. And now, if you
- 58:58look at the hierarchy of American news, it's
- 59:01all white guys. Right. Well, and then you look
- 59:05at all the other things, too. Look at all the
- 59:07government agencies. Right. Every black person
- 59:11and brown person is being removed. I just don't
- 59:13understand why we are not just taking to the
- 59:16streets every single day. Well, I guess because
- 59:19we're trying to feed our kids, right? Right.
- 59:21And stay out of the clutches of ICE. Well, there
- 59:24was, just before, just closing out, there was
- 59:28an article in Common Dreams. recently that compares
- 59:33the United States to 1933 Germany. And a lot
- 59:38of things that were happening then are happening
- 59:40now, like the sort of the neutering of the free
- 59:45press, the lawsuits that are being filed against
- 59:51reporters for covering corruption, you know,
- 59:56the ownership of media by oligarchs. And the
- 1:00:02euphemisms that are being used to describe things,
- 1:00:05to describe putting people in concentration camps,
- 1:00:08like we're calling it, like in Germany they called
- 1:00:12it resettlement or labor deployment or evacuation,
- 1:00:16when it was just like loading people into train
- 1:00:20cars and putting them in killing camps. We've
- 1:00:24talked about Alligator Alcatraz, which I still
- 1:00:28think should be called Alligator Auschwitz. But,
- 1:00:33you know, it's like this whole idea that now
- 1:00:36we're putting troops in the streets in blue cities.
- 1:00:39In our nation's capital. In our nation's capital.
- 1:00:43The Illinois Democrats are fighting against it.
- 1:00:50They're threatening New York if it elects the
- 1:00:53Muslim as mayor. They've already gone into Los
- 1:00:56Angeles. And the thing about the National Guard
- 1:01:00is that red states are sending their troops into
- 1:01:03these blue cities, which is just... Back when
- 1:01:07Obama was president, and I think we'll close
- 1:01:10on this, when Obama was president, there was
- 1:01:12this thing where they believed that he was trying
- 1:01:17to... There was a military maneuver in Texas,
- 1:01:22and the Republicans were saying that this is
- 1:01:26Obama's effort in order to put troops in Texas
- 1:01:29streets to oppress us. And people like Ted Cruz
- 1:01:33were yelling and screaming about it. And it was
- 1:01:35all bullshit. It was just like regular military
- 1:01:37maneuvers. The president is putting troops in
- 1:01:42American cities, and you don't hear a peep from
- 1:01:44Republicans at all. And you don't really see
- 1:01:47a lot of coverage on the mainstream media the
- 1:01:49way that we should. Right. Well, that's because
- 1:01:52our CBS political correspondent is covering Taylor
- 1:01:55Swift. Right. One last thing about that. I was
- 1:01:59listening to NPR the other day, and a gentleman
- 1:02:03that... that grew up when Putin basically started
- 1:02:06his autocratic rule. And he just wrote a book
- 1:02:09about the rise of authoritarianism in our country.
- 1:02:13He basically said that it took Putin 10 years
- 1:02:16to consolidate power for his authoritarian regime.
- 1:02:20It has taken Trump and Co. seven months to do
- 1:02:25what was done in 10 years. So this is rapidly
- 1:02:30happening. And they have all this technology
- 1:02:34and all this data. I just got another piece of
- 1:02:39information from a financial institution that
- 1:02:41was breached. And they're offering some kind
- 1:02:44of thing that I can go to to try to protect myself
- 1:02:47going forward. But folks, this shit is real.
- 1:02:52And I'm just so glad to know Jesse. He's so smart.
- 1:02:59And get to do this podcast for all of you every
- 1:03:02two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I hope you're enjoying.
- 1:03:05Right, yeah. Happy 10th podcast. That's right.
- 1:03:08This is our 10th. This is very exciting. They
- 1:03:10said it couldn't be done. It couldn't be done.
- 1:03:13But here we are. Yeah, here we are. See you for
- 1:03:15the 11th. Okay. So long, everybody. Bye. Our
- 1:03:21closing music is by John Chamberlain.