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Below Deck Recap, Baby Reindeer Review, Ariana Lawsuit Update & Stagecoach · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Drama Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling, Yello, welcome back. It's
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  drama Darling Today. It's below Deep and a little dash into the Netflix series
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  that's taking over called Baby Reindeer, So spoilers ahead. We'll talk about that
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  after below Deck and a little hint of news. Joining me is Emily Teresa's
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  Hello, how are you? You know what I'm doing just fine today.
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  I'm feeling good. I'm feeling great. It's a gorgeous California day. Loving
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  it up here in Santa Clarita in the Cheetah Room, and I'm feeling good.
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  How about you down there in Silver Lake? Oh's it was a June
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  glue morning, which I love. It was overcast. Get your stuff done
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  in the morning because it's gonna get hot. That's my favorite day of La
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  June Gloom. I love June gloom and sometimes comes early, like in and
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  April almost be Yeah, it's almost May, which is insane. Yes,
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  well, here we are, that is insane, right, Lord, have
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  mercy, you know, I am excited to talk about below Deck. I
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  also have, you know, little giddiness about Baby Reindeer. But it's a
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  dark giddiness, you know, because of the show is so dark, and
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  I do feel like it's sweeping the It's sweeping the world right now. It's
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  like a huge hit. It's like one hundred percent on rotten tomatoes, I
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  mean, or at least close to that, which is very unheard of.
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  Yeah, unless it's good, then it seems like you can get a hundred
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  percent, like the things that get one hundred percent. It's not rare.
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  If it's good. Yeah, and it's good, and it's good, it's
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  really good. And we'll be talking about that soon. So before we get
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  into that all of it, let's serving dish. Let's hit up some news.
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  All right, Let's see what's going on in here in the Bravo universe.
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  It's everywhere. La Times has an article on it Face Reality sixteen to
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  about it. So we got to get started. The big ones. All
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  the top dogs here are way in. Ariana Maatics and Tom Sandoval firebagged former
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  co star Rachel Levis, denying her allegations that they distributed sexually explicit videos without
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  her consent. So last week, Arianna and Sandoval both filed separate responses in
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  La County Superior Court to Rachel's lawsuit, which accuses them of revenge, porn,
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  eavesdropping, invasion of privacy, intentional infliction of emotional distress. And so
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  they now basically responded to that and have a declaration requesting that they the court
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  strike Rachel's complaint, citing California's anti slap law, which is something that protects
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  people against frivolous lawsuits. Face reality sixteen actually put the declaration up Ariana Maddox's
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  declaration, and essentially, because they're separate, they're coming from separate lawyers,
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  separate arguments, right, Yeah, if you were to think of Ariana and
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  Tom's house, separate rooms, correct, same house, separate rooms, same
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  type of lawsuit, separate declarations. Yes, And Arianna is basically saying that
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  she did you know, she got the videos off of Tom's phone, sent
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  them to herself, said what she saw, and then from there she was
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  outside confronting Tom about what she saw. He grabbed her phone, her credit
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  cards went down on the ground, She picked up her credit cards. Tom
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  was running away with her phone, and from what I understand, Tom deleted
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  the videos. She said, I did not send the videos to anyone else,
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  nor did I share, display or show the videos to anyone else to
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  be clear, I only saw the video of the plaintiff masturbating in places secluded
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  from others. And Maddick said in her declaration that she was locked in a
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  bathroom stall when she discovered explicit FaceTime videos of Levis on Sandoval's phone. I
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  hurriedly took out my phone and made two recordings of the FaceTime video, she
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  said. She also said she confronted Sandoval later about the videos in an alley,
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  of course it happened in an alley near the West Hollywood venue whereas cover
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  band was performing, and that her ex boyfriend forcibly grabbed her phone from her
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  hands and deleted the videos from her phone. However, before he deleted the
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  videos, Maddox shared them with Levis with the text reading, you're dead to
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  me, but I think you know. Okay, fine, Arianna, you
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  didn't send it. Let's just say you didn't send it to anyway. But
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  like else right, yeah, Tom to me has no defense. He filmed
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  Rachel without her knowledge, and maybe and it was and it was taken off
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  of his phone and maybe without his knowledge, but like that, at the
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  end of the day, he did. There is a violation there. Yeah,
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  And if Ariana did film it. I mean it's weird too because in
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  that argument, I can't wait for the Bravo docket to talk about this.
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  But like, in that argument, she's basically saying, yes, I filmed
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  it, and if it wasn't for Tom, I mean, she's basically like,
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  yeah, I did this and I did send it. Because she's saying
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  I filmed it and sent it, but then Tom deleted it. Yeah,
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  and so she's saying she did which is different. It's a different story than
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  what we originally heard because Arianna said that she deleted it originally. Well that's
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  true. I'm just saying, in a court of law, you're saying you
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  did it, So then like, what are we talking about? This is
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  not a waste of time you did that. So I don't know. Yeah,
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  I can see her saying she's taking responsibility, and she's saying that she
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  did not share this with anyone else. Obviously she shared it with Rachel,
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  which we did not. I did not know that. I also didn't know
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  that Tom was the one that deleted them off of Mariana's phone. I thought
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  Arianna is the one who deleted them off her phone, right, you know,
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  So the story has changed a little bit it has changed, and and
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  of All's motion counters the accusations alleging that quote unquote, these videos were created
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  by Levis and published by Levis to Sandoval via a consensual exchange on FaceTime,
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  i e. Their video calls you know this? That to me is a
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  very flimsy case considering that he recorded them without her knowledge. So yeah,
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  yeah, it was based on Levis's own allegation. Sandoval merely saved private copies
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  of the videos that Levis had filmed and shared with him, So she filmed
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  them and shared them with him. Interesting, Well, I think they're talking
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  about two different things. It sounds like there were there may have been FaceTime
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  videos that they had with each other that he filmed without her consent, But
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  there were also videos that she made and that she that she filmed herself and
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  shared them with Tom. So it sounds like there are two sep Brit things
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  here. Yeah, the ones that she shared with Tom. That's their business.
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  That's what they did. That's fine. It's but like if he's filming
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  her without her knowledge, that's not That's that's what we're talking about, right,
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  Weird. I think what they're trying that lawyers trying to do is be
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  like, hey, this was common practice, but it's it's like you can't
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  you know, it's that's one thing, and this is something that happened without
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  any consent. Right. It's so weird though that that didn't come out right
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  away, as Tom in the middle of the shit wouldn't be like I deleted
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  the videos I took our on his phone and I deleted them. That would
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  have kind of helped him save a little bit of face, even though legally
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  that's murky, but it would have saved his ass right away, even with
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  Rachel, and and it would have cut the confusion right away too. So
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  I don't know, yes, it says right here. By the time I
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  caught up to him, mister Sandoval had deleted my deleted from my phone the
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  videos I had recorded of the FaceTime video. Mister Sandoval also deleted the videos
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  from the recently deleted folder on my phone. Minutes later, I texted one
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  of my friends, Logan Cochrane, about what happened, citing stating I called
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  her Rachel after finding out and texting her the videos of herself from Tom's phone
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  that I took. Tom took my phone and deleted them chased him all the
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  way down San Vicente. True and correct copies of the screenshots I took of
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  those messages are attached here too as exhibit too. After learning about the fair,
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  I began informing my family and other close friends about plaintiffs affair with mister
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  Sandoval, including how learned about it. How I learned about it by discovering
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  the texts and the FaceTime video on mister Sandoval's phone. So that is in
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  the declaration and it is posted on face Reality sixteen. All right, so
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  we're getting down to it. Meanwhile, they're all at stage coach. I
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  mean you like, this is all going down, and Rangel's having the time
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  of her life at stage coach and at the same time is apparently dating a
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  single dad. There we go, So that's out there. So she is
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  at stage coach, which also there was a screenshot of her wearing a shirt
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  at stage coach that was Ariana's or that Ariana wore. She's wearing that at
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  stage coach, which is weird. Is the single dad Mauricio, Well,
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  I wouldn't be surprised if he was at stage coach either. He is with
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  Kyle. Oh, that's right. There they were together. Yeah, how
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  about that? How about it? I don't mean, look and Sheena's there
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  living your best life. She took a picture with post Malone got Lala's there
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  with her with her baby belly. Everyone's wearing cowboy boots and cowboy hats.
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  I thought it was the Cowboy Festival, quite frankly from Santa Clarita. Also
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  in SHNA news because it's never we don't have enough about Sena me, I'm
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  talking about Yushinaky. You looked great at stagecoach. You looked amazing. I
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  think her mom was there all decked out. But in other news, Sena
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  and Brock were both on the NBC sitcom The Lopez Family, and she plays
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  a doctor. Okay, cool, Well they got a day rate. I'm
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  happy for them. I mean, you never know that could lead to Dancing
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  with the Stars, so I just want to give acknowledgment to that. So
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  good for them that you did the Lopez Show to get on Dancing with the
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  Stars. You deserved it. Mariana knew that I wanted to be on the
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  low Pez Family show so I can get on Dancing with the stars. Oh
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  my god, the next Deadline article is going to be like Ariano Medics cast
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  as new cast member on the Low. Pez maam as lead medic in the
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  list lead Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah ya y. All right,
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  why don't we get into what are we talking about below date, below deck?
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  Let's get into below d Yeah, yeah, okay, so essentially we
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  you know, it was like it wasn't the craziest episode, which is fine,
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  you know, I mean it's it's it was more of a sleeper episode.
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  I would say, oh, I thought it was really good because I
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  mean, like so positive, I love it. No, I love it,
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  I love it. It's great. Well, I mean it was it
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  was like I get that there wasn't any explosions, but like it was pretty
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  tense with the new chef coming on and like with the Barbie and Kyle stuff
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  happening. I at the Sonny and Ben's stuff, like, I don't know.
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  I know you're right. The couples were popping. They were popping.
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  Yeah, and we now, like Chef Anthony is gone, and I'm kind
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  of glad just because he was struggling a lot and I think we needed h
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  Yeah, seeing how disgusting that kitchen was was like, yeah, that was
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  tough. Yeah, because you don't know until someone's telling you want to,
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  Like, as an audience, we can't tell it all looks the same,
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  so you kind of have to have someone say there's black mold inside the seam
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  and I don't know how anybody didn't get black mold or whatever kind of terrifying.
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  I mean, god, yeah, maybe it wasn't black mold, but
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  he was like it was mold, and I don't know how anybody didn't get
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  food poisoning, and oh lord god, that's so terrible. And you know
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  you don't want this to follow him as he like, he can't defend himself.
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  He's off of the boat, so he can't be like I didn't ever
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  see it, pelais. We don't worry about the black mold because you know
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  we all mean to it. You know, he couldn't defend himself. Yeah
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  yeah, I mean technically mold as a cheese. It was from the board.
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  I mean, I know he can't defend himself, but I also feel
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  like that's kind of the risk you take getting on one of these shows,
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  like it truly and like he didn't do a great he wasn't ready for the
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  job. So this is just another way to let the audience know, like
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  that decision for from Captain Carey was absolutely right, absolutely right. We pick
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  up in the morning and Barbie is still I mean, all night long,
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  she must have just been like, dad is gonna kill me, Daddy's father,
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  Father's gonna kill me. Father, Dad, He's gonna kill me,
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  like, and she just couldn't shake it, and it was God, I'd
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  stop, just tell him not to watch the episode, you know, uh
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  yeah, hear about who cares? It blows my mind still that her mother
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  is a sex therapist, right, and Barbie and like I guess we see
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  in the next episode, like the preview, her sister are so hung up
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  on their dad's approval in terms of how they should conduct themselves sexually, Like
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  it is so crazy to me. I look, I understand you don't want
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  to be on a reality show on TV having sex with someone, but it's
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  all sure, it's below deck. And though you might think that you're the
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  exemption, you know that you might be exempt from these types of things.
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  You have to consider that before going in. If you're that worried, don't
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  put yourself in that situation, right, I can't. I mean, yes,
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  I agree with you because you know what the show is and you have
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  experience on these boats. And if you know yourself and you want to be
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  on this show and you have a tendency to hook up with your castmates or
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  you're coworkers, then what are you doing? Like in my mind, I'm
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  like, well, clearly she's trying to break this for her father. Like,
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  clearly she is looking for her freedom from this because she knew exactly what
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  was going to go down and did it anyway. So to me, I'm
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  like, yeah, hopefully in a couple of years you feel really great about
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  this because you subconsciously were not liking how you had to live. Mm hmm.
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  She doesn't like it, and she's mad at herself. There's a lot
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  of shame there, and yeah, it's tough to watch. Fraser is calling
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  out Barbie and he's like why are you and keeping it a secret? Just
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  own up to it. I'm like Fraser, just you know, just lay
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  off of Barbie. You know, she's got to have a shame as it
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  is. And I honestly, this whole Barbie and Kyle thing, I didn't
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  really understand what Kyle did wrong because nothing, Okay, Well why does she
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  keep saying he keeps talking about it to other people? Well, I think
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  maybe what we didn't see. He is talking about it a lot with Ben,
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  and I didn't like that Ben was reading the text chain. I thought,
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  like, this is so gross Kyle. Like, so I guess in
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  that way it's not nothing, but like, but she wouldn't have even known
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  that, right, right, right? So I guess, like, you
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  know, Barbie, you've been on these but you know the second that you
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  are pounding anything, they could hear it two boats over, Like everybody is
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  going to hear this, they're going to comment on it, and Kyle,
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  I think, can speak to it. So I don't know what she's so
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  up. I don't know what she wanted him to do. I don't know
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  and she what did she say about like he knows that I'm this and I
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  won't be orthodox. I mean, I don't know. I think Barbie was
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  grasping its straws. I think she was trying to put it on Kyle so
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  her dad would be less mad. And I just think she sabotaged it essentially.
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  Okay, right, I think that that's probably makes the most sense,
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  that she just all of a sudden had so much shame that she just was
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  spun out. She's obviously going to Fraser and being like, I'm having a
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  bad day. I feel like I disappointed my dad, and now she's just
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  going to knock all the pins down and call it a day because she feels
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  that she just needs to end it entirely, and she's looking for a reason.
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  Yeah, yeah, okay, that has to be a I mean,
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  it's because it didn't seem obvious to me. I was very very confused,
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  and Kyle seemed, uh he seems really into her and he really really likes
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  her, and I know kind of felt for him because I also feel like,
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  I don't know, Kyle's in a position too where he's got producers up
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  his ass to talk about it, you know, like there's a lot going
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  on there. Just like the fact that I mean, this is completely Barbie
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  trying to break the chains of the shame from her dad. That's it.
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  Yeah, whether she realizes it or not, this is what that is.
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  And I hope her mom hardcore has her back, because her mom can be
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  like, you know, husband, you're being very unhealthy to our kids,
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  and it's fucking them up on the open seas when anything should be able to
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  happen. Even there, she's not free in international waters. So the new
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  chef arrives and I don't know his name. Don't think I wrote it down,
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  thank you. Yeah, I didn't write it down here. Well Amy
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  did arrive just in the nick of time. Oh okay, yes he did.
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  That didn't take the episode nick of time? Yeah, it wasn't that.
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  It was happy Captain, happy life. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So
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  he arrives and it didn't take long to find this chef at all. You
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  know, usually it takes a lot longer where you're stuck. But maybe I
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  think Captain carry a few charters back, was like, oh, you know,
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  go to get somebody. I'm not feeling it. So he lays down
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  the law with Nick and he's like, toll right, no lights in the
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  galley, thrown things around. It's like, all right, thanks for letting
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  us know what boat had a knife fight. Captain. Yeah, a good
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  question. So he's forty one and he's been chefing for twenty years, and
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  so we leave that there. Then we're we're kind of like, before the
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  charter guests arrive, we have been posting a story. And this is where
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  things get really caught in the crosshairs. First of all, Ben is such
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  a douchebag. For one, yes, two, we have last seasons Below
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  Deck airing at that time, so now he's obligated to posting on social media
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  to promote that season while he's on another season, phill, and that is
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  the problem. That is the problem I had. I can't do that together,
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  yes together, because you want to know why, because he had put
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  up in the stories tonight a new episode of Below Deck. And then that's
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  why it was the ask me anything situation. Why he was doing that.
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  He has to fulfill obligations for that season and he has to like live in
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  that season as if it's the present because people are wondering and he can't really
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  have spoilers. So that was all just business, okay. That being said,
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  he was definitely thinking about Camille and that's for real, and he was
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  starting to push Sonny away, So then he's putting he's putting up these stories
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  push away, God blessed. Oh you mean later on really? Yeah?
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  And then he's like, yeah, nude below deck episode tonight. And then
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  people are asking what's happening with him and Camille. He's like, lots happened
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  from the season and just you'll find out. So he's teasing it. Then
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  someone asks, what's your favorite snack? On Charter, he puts up a
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  picture of Camille her. I mean, is it insensitive, yes, because
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  he's trying to live a whole separate life and he's done a whole other Charter.
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  But like, also you sort of have to play the game. Well,
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  you know, he could tell Sonny what's up, but he you know,
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  I think he legit didn't give her any heads up, no heads up,
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  yeah, because I don't think Sonny has an inner to perform like devastation
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  at that level. Yeah. Like he also didn't have to say her as
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  a snag. He could have just been legit like grapes. You know,
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  he could have said anything anything. So that is very weird, And I
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  also just made me think, like we can't have this happening again. Where
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  we have a crossover with airing and then trying to live your life on the
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  actual new season, because that's really confusing for people. That's we're getting into
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  like bravocon world, where you have people on panels speaking about drama that happened
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  in the season, and then in the season they're talking about drama that happened
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  at Bravocon that it just gets way too interwoven and there needs to be harder
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  lines being drawn. I don't mind if it's inner woven as long as it's
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  authentic. But this feels really inauthentic. Yeah, it gives you a real
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  peek into how they advertise and they just promote the shows and they just say
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  anything to keep you guys, you guys meaning us right interested in Oh this
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  is what he said in his stories, And you know, yes, I
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  would rather that. I would rather that we just didn't see the post,
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  like why are we covering that? But I guess Sonny's reaction is why we're
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  covering it. But yeah, and that's not her fault. I'm just saying
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  like, it's not yeah, it's just murky, murky waters. And then
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  and then he's like, Okay, let's see what else he's said, Sonny
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  sees the stories, and then Paris can front Spen and you know, it's
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  just like this is happening. You know, you're a douchebag. And then
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  Ben finally talks to Sonny and just says, I just need to end this
• 27:08
  charter season strong. If we sleep together, we sleep together, we don't,
• 27:11
  we don't, you know, I just think we shouldn't get attached to
• 27:15
  each other. You know. Also he sidebars with Everybody'd be like, what
• 27:18
  is wrong these fucking girls? Chicks? Oh? Oh, chicks, chicks.
• 27:23
  Yeah, number one douchebag. I mean, I don't know if we've
• 27:29
  seen a bigger douchebag than we probably have, but Ben is really douchey.
• 27:34
  I mean, it's just the fact that he keeps setting himself up so perfectly
• 27:41
  to be a douchebag. And then it's like, gosh, everybody's an asshole
• 27:45
  around me, I mean ladies. So yeah, I'm so grossed out by
• 27:52
  him. I know, I was glad that when he tried calling Camille.
• 27:56
  Oh, he was like, do you want to meet up in Florida?
• 27:59
  And She's like, eh, don't think so I loved it. I'm just
• 28:03
  getting settled in It was even better than saying no. It's just like giving
• 28:07
  him his own bullshit right back to him, and he had to just take
• 28:12
  it and swallow it on camera. Yeah, on camera. Ah, what
• 28:18
  an asshole. I love it. And is he getting tanner? Is he
• 28:22
  getting more tan? But I think he was just beat red from the rejection.
• 28:27
  I was like, yea, good as the more you lie Pinocchio's nose
• 28:30
  Girls grows, the more douchey he gets, the tanner he gets. And
• 28:37
  you know, she Sonny when he said that to her about like, oh,
• 28:41
  let's just finish the charter season. If we, you know, sleep
• 28:45
  together, we do, she was like huh yeah, see tomorrow. And
• 28:48
  then she runs off crying and it was just so sad. It felt bad
• 28:52
  for her and she's crawling to the ladies and because she put it on herself,
• 28:56
  I was like, Sonny, come on, that was head of thick.
• 29:00
  We've got a couple of girls who are wrestling with some demons here.
• 29:03
  Barbie's got some very obvious shame and Sonny is taking it all on herself and
• 29:11
  taking responsibility where she didn't need to. So ladies got to empower ours like
• 29:18
  she should have been cooler, Like, he's been gaslighting you since the fucking
• 29:23
  docks on day one, since the doc, since the gang Way he crossed
• 29:30
  over, and it was just the gaslighting began. Yeah. I mean that
• 29:34
  was the thing that he loved the most about Sonny is how much gaslighting he
• 29:38
  could do and get away with with her. And then it wasn't that much
• 29:44
  fun anymore. So do you want to bet will they hook up again before
• 29:49
  the end of the charter? Probably? Absolutely. I mean I'm not moving
• 29:56
  for that. I just have a feeling, yeah, because you know what's
• 30:00
  to happen is he was shut down by Camille, So he's gonna come groveling
• 30:03
  back to her, yeah, and like love bomb her. Yeah, and
• 30:07
  she's gonna go with it. Yep mm hmm. But what's more to stay
• 30:12
  safe from Dylan? But go ahead, Dylan, that guy. We hug
• 30:18
  your stomach as you lean over. I know he's the most awkward person.
• 30:23
  He really really is. He really is. When then they were they were
• 30:27
  cleaning Zandy and Paris and laughing at him like through the glass, I was
• 30:33
  like, you were going to break him because that is the ship that like
• 30:37
  fuels him. He's going to murder everyone on that boat one night. Yeah,
• 30:41
  well he's gonna snap yeah, yeah, snap yeah yeah. What's more
• 30:45
  concerning to me is Paris making a smoothie putting strawberries in there with the stems
• 30:52
  on. I don't get it, the full strawberry in the blender, leaving
• 30:59
  the green stems them. Wait, you eat the red part she left them
• 31:07
  on? Yeah? No, I know. I eat the green stems because
• 31:12
  they're very good for you. They are, Yes, you leave them on.
• 31:18
  I have strawberry too. I was messing with you. I know that
• 31:22
  you eat the green stems along with the strawberry. The leaves are really good
• 31:26
  for you. What I'm not doing a bit. I swear the leaves that
• 31:30
  google it. I believe you. I mean I do. I just I
• 31:36
  just never seen that before. I never considered it. I just like,
• 31:38
  what, Yeah, eat the whole thing. Gang, get your greens.
• 31:44
  I'm totally serious. Look it up. They're full of nutrients. Wow.
• 31:49
  I never considered that. Like, I don't know why it seems so obvious,
• 31:53
  but yeah, I mean it doesn't. Maybe like it takes some of
• 31:57
  the sweetness out a little bit. It's probably bitter as hell, isn't it?
• 32:02
  Is it bitter? I mean, yeah, I mean in season,
• 32:07
  you don't notice it as much. Look, the darlings are gonna come for
• 32:09
  me, and I stand by the I don't know value. I bet you
• 32:14
  on the last one to know this. I never Eva have EVA put strollbearing
• 32:20
  steams. Like, if I'm presenting something for guests, I would I would
• 32:25
  cut, like if I was going to make like a platter, I would
• 32:29
  cut the cut the leaves off. But Emily on that I think that you
• 32:34
  would leave them on and pressure all your guests to eat them, eat your
• 32:37
  stems. I would not be that host. Did you know that the leaves
• 32:44
  eat it? Eat it? I just was like, and they really made
• 32:50
  a point to showing that blender with those strawberries, which made me think I
• 32:55
  don't know either, Like me, yeah, no, I a hundred centigree
• 33:00
  and I thought like, I bet they don't know that. That's actually because
• 33:05
  they held the shot for a minute a long time. I thought it was
• 33:07
  gonna be like a Top Chef AD. I was like, is this an
• 33:09
  emulsion blender? Are we going to get an AD? It was gonna be
• 33:13
  a code, a QR code on the side to buy this. Yeah,
• 33:17
  Well, I'm here to tell you one and all. It is my understanding
• 33:22
  that those leaves are good for you. So will she drank it, Chris,
• 33:27
  She drank it and she goes hmmm yeah, Like it was like is
• 33:30
  it good or bad? I couldn't And then they cut away. I was
• 33:34
  like, you left us on this smoothie making for so long and left us
• 33:39
  with a real cliffhanger. Whether she liked it or not, this was not
• 33:44
  an exciting episode. Look at you, I know, torn, I'm jazzed
• 33:49
  up, dragged up, all right, So Kylon Barber in this fight and
• 33:57
  she's like, I can't trust you, and that just pingpong back and forth.
• 34:00
  Charter guests arrive and they're just a gaggle of influencers. Uh yeah,
• 34:07
  which which seeing them just filming everything quietly, bleak dark, yeah, yeah,
• 34:15
  yeahs. It was a deep rooted sadness of where we are in life,
• 34:21
  like this is what, this is who we are as a nation,
• 34:24
  as a people. Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite accounts is Influencers
• 34:29
  in the Wild, which is pretty popular where they just somebody just covers influencers
• 34:35
  out like in the streets. Yeah, and it's so like it's just like
• 34:40
  watching someone dance without music. Kind of thing is you're not seeing the final
• 34:44
  product, but it looks so sad. That's why I always have such a
• 34:49
  hard time with social media, because I can never break that part of me
• 34:53
  where I can do that, like just naturally go out and be like,
• 35:00
  you know how Bethany's always you know, there are just certain people who can
• 35:04
  film film film. Yeah, I know a lot of people like that,
• 35:07
  and they just seem to be able to be comfortable with it. I just
• 35:09
  cannot do it. I feel so weird. I agree, That's why I
• 35:15
  don't post much. But I mean, like I could post privately, sure,
• 35:20
  but no. You see it all the time in LA and it's just
• 35:22
  like what has happened to you? Like it's as though someone is constantly conducting
• 35:28
  a conversation just with themselves. And I get that there's like, you know,
• 35:32
  potentially thousands of people watching it, but it to me is just such
• 35:37
  a I just can't wrap my head around it as a part of something I
• 35:42
  want to do, Yeah, to launch into a full personality, you know,
• 35:49
  like in the middle of a grocery store, right right at a flower
• 35:54
  shop, to just all of a sudden be like I can't believe these daffodils
• 35:59
  are like sick you guys, check this out, these daffodils. And then
• 36:04
  and then to just turn it off, and then she'd be like, can
• 36:06
  I have a bundle of daffodils? And do you have any baby's breath?
• 36:08
  You know, like to then conduct regular business like a normal human being.
• 36:15
  I mean, but humiliating to me. I think even less engagement after they
• 36:20
  turn it off, just dead face dead yeah, and no engagement because it
• 36:25
  kind of reminds me of like, I don't know, like when my mom
• 36:29
  would be like mad at my brother and I, but then the phone ring
• 36:31
  and she'd get on and we'd both be like, what we're in big trouble,
• 36:38
  but like Theresa's residence and then and then she'd hang up the phone and
• 36:45
  then she'd be like, you know, not speaking again. So I'm like,
• 36:50
  ugh, that's the same vibe where I'm just like, wait, what
• 36:52
  why are you doing this? You were just so happy to be telling us
• 36:57
  about these daffodils. I wouldn't to learn more learny war. The old phone
• 37:02
  bits are great, like we used to have the phones, Oh my god,
• 37:06
  and you would answer the phone, you know, Phillip's residence sometimes depending
• 37:12
  like I would do it ironically most of the time, but you're right,
• 37:15
  if you know, the moms would be like, get Kirk, Chris and
• 37:20
  Amy get we are having to yell yello yello. Uh huh, or like
• 37:29
  sometimes she really couldn't mask it and she'd be just be like you will not
• 37:32
  hello. You know that would be about as much as she could do.
• 37:37
  Hello. Yes, he's in disposed right now? May I take a message?
• 37:44
  It was always that he's in disposed. If it was one of our
• 37:47
  friends, they'd catch a vibe that maybe it wasn't so cool. Ah.
• 37:52
  Yeah, you really have to know the family pretty good. Yeah. Yeah,
• 38:00
  So I really was worried about our new chef after that bowl of fries
• 38:05
  and everyone was left holding this bowl of fries looking around like what the f
• 38:10
  yeah with this small fry not reading the preference sheet again, yausers, I
• 38:19
  mean I guess, yeah, go ahead. He was able to pivot in
• 38:22
  the moment, which Anthony couldn't do. Anthony could not, but I was
• 38:27
  like, dude, you've been at it for twenty years, read the preference
• 38:31
  sheet and then but I'm like, was he so focused on the dinner of
• 38:37
  seven fishes? Because and that's why the Feast of seven Fishes, and that's
• 38:44
  why he just overlooked the preference sheet. I mean, maybe that's a good
• 38:50
  point, or maybe he was like, we're doing seven fishes, so I'm
• 38:53
  going to just move this stuff around and think, Yeah, that was a
• 38:57
  good decision, that was okay. But he should have bounce off of people.
• 39:00
  Yeah right. I mean in a way, those preference sheets, as
• 39:06
  crazy as they can get, are a good I mean, to me,
• 39:10
  I would think that they would take some of the pressure off cause it's like,
• 39:14
  I don't have to think of lamb chops. I just have to think
• 39:16
  of this seafood spread when they get here, right, And I love a
• 39:21
  lamb chop, But I am thinking when I bored a charter, I don't
• 39:25
  want a lamb chop. I want seafood. I want a lighter fair for
• 39:30
  lunch. Yeah right. I agree that Feast of the Seven Fishes, though,
• 39:37
  wasn't absolutely incredible executed perfectly. Yeah, plighting, tyst freezing, tshing
• 39:46
  really knock my captain sulks. So that was nice. I mean I was
• 39:51
  happy about it. Captain Carrie's little Christmas bow tie. I know that the
• 39:54
  guests gave him oh, they gave him that. Yeah, one of the
• 39:59
  guests is gave him his extra one, which I thought was nice because otherwise
• 40:01
  it didn't seem like he was maybe fully prepared for the theme I did.
• 40:08
  I do have nachos and all capitals exclamation point, yes, fourteen exclamation points
• 40:15
  meaning you like, that's what you want? I want nachos, you want
• 40:20
  nacho just stat across the board no matter what time, like Jill wants,
• 40:25
  like at all times, have nachos out served? Nachos? When? When?
• 40:30
  When was swimming nachos? Woman eating nachos, when was sleeping nachos?
• 40:32
  The morning nachos, lunch, nachos, dinna nachos? Nachos? Are he
• 40:37
  just it was like, yeah, the fees of seven Visions and then nachos.
• 40:45
  The lunch was nachos. Okay. That was like the first thing he
• 40:49
  came at us with was like the first thing as chef on the boat he
• 40:52
  announced he was making was nachos. And I was like, fuck you,
• 40:58
  class, this is this is my kind of society. I loved it.
• 41:04
  Yeah, and then that guy changed into a Nacho King T shirt. I
• 41:07
  was like, wow, he really is the nacho king about it very impressive,
• 41:15
  and then he joins them for the dinner and Carrie, Captain Carrie tells
• 41:21
  a scary story. Oh about they asked him Somalia and fishnets, and I'm
• 41:28
  not talking about the panteos. The pirates were very fucking hot in fish nets.
• 41:35
  Yeah, no, yeah, the pirates, but it wasn't really pirates.
• 41:37
  They were local fishermen or something, right, Yeah, like that.
• 41:43
  It looks like one of the guests has a thing for Frasier and my foot
• 41:49
  fetish. Oh yeah, you know, he wants Fraser to walk on him
• 41:53
  with soft feet his so yeah, and his and his legs. And I
• 41:58
  was like, well, he's probably not wrong that he has soft feet,
• 42:02
  and like everything about Fraser is like tight soft to me. Yeah, like
• 42:07
  a good lotion. Yeah, he's definitely gonna muscle. He's like one of
• 42:15
  the seven fishes, you know, just yes, yeah, And this is
• 42:20
  getting weird. Okay, it's like a salamander. It's so weird. Fraser
• 42:28
  Dylan's daily affirmations. I'm okay with it. I like it. It's fine.
• 42:34
  It's a good way to not have to watch him interact. Yeah,
• 42:37
  I'd rather tear his affirmations than anything he has to say, yeah, I
• 42:44
  don't mind him. I'd like, there's I have such a curiosity about him
• 42:50
  because we just haven't seen him approach any situation in a human way. And
• 42:55
  then so I keep wanting him to take another crack at it. But at
• 43:00
  the same time, I'm okay with quiet Dyalan moments. Yeah, I'm all
• 43:02
  right with that. Did you see the promo for Watch What Happens? Because
• 43:07
  he was on Watch What Happens with Rachel Harris. You know how Andy does
• 43:10
  the teaser real quick and it's kind of off the cuff, the guests don't
• 43:15
  know what he's going to say necessarily, and he was like, Rachel Harris
• 43:20
  is here. Rachel. It was like I wrote it down. She's like,
• 43:24
  oh, how do you feel about was one of your on your preference
• 43:29
  sheet to be in the below deck be sharing the show with a below Deck
• 43:32
  cast member? And she just blinks and stares and she's like, oh,
• 43:37
  I like Captain Carrie Dylan was just like I was like, well, this
• 43:52
  is maybe why we should script these moments or give ahead up. She is
• 43:57
  so funny, honest, the honesty. Yeah, good for her. She
• 44:04
  loves she loves Bravo stuff. Okay, So Ben tells Barbie that Kyle is
• 44:10
  down and how and Ben says, I don't appreciate how you're talking to Kyle,
• 44:17
  and Barbie's like, that's my personal problem and not my and not your
• 44:22
  issue. And then Kyle tries to talk to Barbie and Barbie was like,
• 44:28
  you're talking about her issues to everyone else, and he's like, I'm sorry,
• 44:30
  I'm sorry, and she accepts his apology, but she doesn't trust him.
• 44:34
  Yeah, I'm like, Ben, shut up, and thank god.
• 44:37
  She was like, you can't talk to me about anything, dude, I'm
• 44:42
  so glad she mentioned Sonny. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She did
• 44:45
  mention that that was good. So that's pretty much it that happened on this
• 44:51
  episode. Yeah, I mean, here we are. Yeah, so there's
• 44:57
  that. So why don't we talk about Baby Reindeer? Yeah, spoiler spoilers,
• 45:06
  spoiler spoilers, spoiler spoilers, spoiler spoiler, Baby Reindeer spoiler, spoiler
• 45:09
  spoiler. Okay, you've been warned, you know, and we're not going
• 45:15
  to go like tell you everything that happened, obviously because you should watch it
• 45:20
  for yourself. But yeah, right off the bat, I mean ten stars
• 45:23
  for this series on Netflix it's seven episodes half an hour each. Emily pointed
• 45:29
  out there may be one that might be a little longer, probably episode episode
• 45:34
  four four. And what I'm interested in right now real quick is to talk
• 45:39
  about the Edinburgh Festival, because we Fringe. The Fringe Festival. Richard Gadd
• 45:47
  did his show there and by doing this show a version of what this Netflix
• 45:53
  series is, by doing his live version of this, he was approached by
• 45:59
  like seventy three production companies or producers or what have you to make this into
• 46:05
  a series, and he decided to go with Netflix, and good choice.
• 46:13
  Yeah. So that being said, you know, Emily and her husband produce
• 46:17
  a ton of stuff at the Fringe Festival, and your husband is there pretty
• 46:23
  much every year, correct, Yeah, most of August, well, like
• 46:28
  for about six weeks. I used to go for about six weeks when I
• 46:31
  was running everything. But yeah, it's crazy. It was so great to
• 46:37
  see, like the flyering. It's just such an intense month of theater and
• 46:45
  it's the biggest theater festival in the world and it's attended by the City of
• 46:51
  Edinburgh. Like I think it grows some crazy amount, like ten times its
• 46:57
  normal population or something. But it's kind of the way we approach it.
• 47:00
  It's like a trade show, a month long trade show, so that you
• 47:06
  can put your show out there to see what will come after Edinburgh. So
• 47:13
  but he had been there Richard Gadd Baby Reindeer was in twenty nineteen, but
• 47:19
  he had been there previously with other shows. I don't know the year he
• 47:23
  was there with the show that was in that bar, if that even happened.
• 47:30
  But the average there's so many shows. I was telling Amy too about
• 47:36
  like there will be like a show in literally a phone booth where they will
• 47:40
  sell one ticket. That's the point they sow. There's the milk There was
• 47:44
  a guy one year that did the Milk Bath show which he only sold one
• 47:47
  ticket and was in his hotel room. I'm saying he had thirty shows that
• 47:51
  month and he sold one ticket per show on purpose, and you would go
• 47:55
  to his hotel room and he would give you a milk bath and swaddow you
• 48:00
  it's sold out. It's sold out, right of course it then, but
• 48:05
  then there's like shows like Stomp got their start in Edinburgh, or Flea Bag,
• 48:14
  Flight of the Concords, I think, Mighty Boosh. There's like a
• 48:16
  lot of them, especially Okay, yeah, I was gonna say, especially
• 48:21
  UK shows for sure. Are there any American shows that you can think of
• 48:24
  that would be of no aiety that I would know? I don't know.
• 48:30
  Six started there the Broadway show. I mean, we do a lot like
• 48:37
  our scripted shows. We start in Edinburgh and do a ton of touring out
• 48:44
  of that. It's not necessarily What are some examples of your shows my shows?
• 48:49
  Our shows are like Fifty Shades the musical, or Thrones the musical,
• 48:54
  which was a parody, but we always take over Baby When's Candy, which
• 48:59
  is an improvised musical, And the last couple of years we took sh Hamilton,
• 49:05
  which is an improvised version of Hamilton. I just anyway, So anyway,
• 49:10
  stalkers, I feel like we're like going on a sidebar here about Edinburgh.
• 49:16
  Well, what were you or your husband there at the time when he
• 49:21
  would have put this show up. A lot of people, a lot of
• 49:25
  our cast went to that Baby Reindeer show and did they Oh so they did
• 49:30
  see it? Oh yeah, yeah? And what did they say when they
• 49:32
  when they saw did they report back like, oh my gosh, that's the
• 49:36
  best show at Edinburgh? Because it won Best show a lot. Yeah,
• 49:39
  they loved it. A lot of people liked it. And the vibe was
• 49:44
  that he is going, he tells the audience the whole time, she could
• 49:49
  show up, like that's the intense he he like says it a lot.
• 49:53
  I guess I didn't see it. I wasn't there that year. But he's
• 49:58
  just like, she could show up and any moment she could literally be in
• 50:00
  the audience. Now I do not know, Like, so that's the vibe
• 50:05
  of the show, like it's intense from the beginning. Okay, And he
• 50:08
  played clips of her voicemails and all that stuff. Oh he did yeah yeah,
• 50:15
  wow, wow, wow, wow wow wow. You know she's outed
• 50:20
  herself. Now, yes, I heard that, but I haven't seen her.
• 50:23
  Have you seen a picture of her or yeah? I saw that she
• 50:28
  and she sounds just like in terms of not vote, I don't know.
• 50:32
  I don't know what her voice sounds like. But what she was saying was
• 50:35
  like, I'm a lawyer, I'm gonna like sue. Now he's stalking me
• 50:39
  with this show. Yeah yeah, yeah, because I guess she's writing on
• 50:45
  her Facebook or something. Yeah, the real Martha, the real Martha.
• 50:52
  Well, what's wild is that? Josh Josh gadd I thing, oh you
• 50:57
  did okay? Yeah? Yeah. Richard gadd you know, wrote wrote this,
• 51:02
  performed this, then he had to shoot this entire series, and as
• 51:07
  the person the victim of the stalker, as a victim of the stalker,
• 51:13
  as a victim of essay, had to relive it many times obviously through the
• 51:20
  creation of this project and then also shooting it. And I just really found
• 51:25
  that to be a tough pill to swallow when I thought back on it,
• 51:30
  considering how intense things got in like the fourth episode, which I didn't expect
• 51:34
  it to go that dark, and I did feel like speaking to the essay
• 51:39
  he and this obviously is based on a true story, so he is saying
• 51:45
  that this did happen to him from a like a well known producer, yeah,
• 51:50
  and that he thought he could get somewhere with his show. And in
• 51:54
  some of the interviews that I've saw or read, he has really spoken to
• 51:59
  that whole aspect of the story that he wanted to shed light on people who
• 52:07
  that he can normalize this type of situation because it's not necessarily the type of
• 52:14
  essay that you have in your mind, like when you're if you're young,
• 52:16
  you know, he was in his early twenties when this happened, and sometimes
• 52:22
  these situations look like so you know, when you think of it and you
• 52:25
  think, why didn't you leave or why didn't you get out? Why do
• 52:28
  you keep going back? And he wanted to really extrapolate the aspect of this
• 52:35
  type of essay that it's really not that cut and dry, that it's not
• 52:37
  that black and white, that these types of things can happen, and they're
• 52:40
  so layered and the dimensions that are involved in this, and he had never
• 52:45
  seen anything like this out there, and he wanted to really speak to that
• 52:52
  and hopefully help other people who have experienced similar things to normalize that and to
• 52:58
  let other people know, like, this happens, This has happened to me,
• 53:00
  This happened to me, and if it's happened to you, like,
• 53:04
  this is what happens, and this is why it can be so complicated.
• 53:07
  And I think that was really brave of him, considering how I can't imagine
• 53:13
  emotionally having to relive that essentially dramatically on camera. And I think the acting
• 53:21
  is incredible by him. And then also his co star who played Martha,
• 53:25
  is beyond incredible and He would say many times that when he was shooting,
• 53:31
  he would literally forget his lines because she's so amazing. She incredibly encapsulated this
• 53:37
  character so much though they like knocked his socks off. And really the fact
• 53:45
  that this stalking went on for six months before he even reported it speaks to
• 53:51
  how he was in some way this was feeding him. And he says this
• 53:54
  in a lot of his interviews that like the way that he wanted to be
• 53:58
  seen by people as like really really funny and really worship admired. Yes,
• 54:05
  he wasn't getting that, you know, and this woman walking into his bar
• 54:08
  was giving this to him every day, so he was kind of feeding off
• 54:13
  of that in man, but also masked all the essays stuff that he had
• 54:17
  gone through. It was such a distraction that he needed. I thought that
• 54:22
  was really great too, because I feel like that's something that like sometimes you
• 54:29
  don't know why you're doing these horrible, bad habits because you're just doing them
• 54:35
  so you don't have to think about this other horrible thing. It's completely a
• 54:38
  distraction. Yeah. And and the fact that when he went to the police,
• 54:45
  he didn't tell them anything about as he said, like the groping,
• 54:50
  the the more violent messages that he received, the physical attack against Terry,
• 54:59
  his girlfriend at the time. All these things he did not report, which
• 55:05
  was weird, and then they basically were like, why don't you You have
• 55:08
  to find something that can be incriminating. So then he became He went down
• 55:13
  this long tangent of listening to all of the voicemails and reading all of the
• 55:16
  emails and finding something to where he finally found something and then she got like
• 55:23
  nine months. Well, no, what happened was that he was basically categorized.
• 55:30
  He cataloged all this for himself. It was initially brought on that the
• 55:36
  police needed it, but he was cataloging all of it for himself, and
• 55:39
  there were so many threatening ones so they would just get filed under threatening.
• 55:44
  But then he kept everything and didn't want to report it until she threatened to
• 55:47
  stab his family. Hmmm, that's right, that's right. And then once
• 55:52
  she started going after his family again because he knew she'd already make contact and
• 55:57
  all that, then that's when he was like, all right, well I
• 56:00
  can't take this chance. Yeah, and she got nine months and then five
• 56:07
  years probation. So that's why I'm like when he says in the live show,
• 56:12
  she could show up here. I mean, I guess she would be
• 56:15
  breaking her the rules if she were to show up at the show, right.
• 56:23
  When you talk to people about this show, you know, like in
• 56:28
  the Netflix series, it shows that he went to to show up one night
• 56:32
  to do his stand up comedy for the competition it was the finals, and
• 56:37
  then during that competition he broke down and just like said everything about the stocking,
• 56:45
  the sexual abuse and everything he had gone through, and that someone took
• 56:52
  a video and it went viral and that's how you know, But that isn't
• 56:55
  necessarily what happened. So in the actual Edinburgh show, was it that he
• 57:00
  played like he was this kooky prop comic and then he acted into this breakdown
• 57:10
  and that was the show. Is that how it okay? Yeah? I
• 57:14
  don't know. I think it was more true to the Netflix special where he's
• 57:17
  telling you kind of how it all went down. But I did see I
• 57:22
  didn't know that. I just saw this online that he really like Martha's represented
• 57:29
  with like a bar chair the whole show, and like it was like a
• 57:34
  super simple set and you know, he was just like going through the paces
• 57:38
  and then talking more about how he was breaking down. Oh interesting, Okay,
• 57:45
  yeah, because from what I understand that that obviously didn't happen in real
• 57:49
  life where he was like had this authentic, real breakdown on stage, which
• 57:53
  is what happened in the series. But and and there's obviously a lot that
• 57:59
  was it's true and wasn't true for whatever's sake, But I also wonder what
• 58:02
  was true and what wasn't and who this producer was that took advantage of him
• 58:07
  because he doesn't out him. He does, he says, do not he
• 58:13
  posted Goad posted to not go after don't be internet detectives on this producer because
• 58:19
  I guess everybody had kind of laser focused in on one person and in the
• 58:23
  last week, and that's when Richard Gad is like, please do not this
• 58:30
  you you're wrong, it's not that person, and stop trying to figure it
• 58:34
  out. It's not the point, like I'm not outing this person, and
• 58:38
  why not do you think? I mean, you know, well, I
• 58:43
  don't know. Maybe maybe he feels accountable. Who knows, like maybe there's
• 58:49
  just a lot of shame around it. Maybe he doesn't want to give this
• 58:52
  person any kind of platform. I don't know, who knows. I'm making
• 58:55
  that up. I am not right, Yeah, I mean obviously he's willing
• 58:59
  to go so far, but not that far with it. Yeah, yeah,
• 59:04
  because maybe the person could have it, who knows, but like maybe
• 59:07
  the person could have a case that they didn't see it that way or you
• 59:14
  know, and sue him and sue Netflix. Right, like the stalker is
• 59:16
  doing right, right, because the stalker says that she was misrepresented. Although
• 59:23
  every quote I've seen I've been like pretty on the money that seems accurate.
• 59:30
  Well, I mean the amount of like the forty thousand emails and you know,
• 59:36
  hundreds of text messages and voicemails and the amount is overwhelming in such a
• 59:43
  short amount of time. Yeah, and it really speaks to the mania and
• 59:47
  the manic you know, episode that she was having. And it's really really
• 59:52
  sad. And she does have this background, like is her background as well?
• 1:00:00
  We found out that she did go to law school. But was that
• 1:00:06
  true that she was arrested for stalking? Well, see, I looked online
• 1:00:14
  for her real name, like, because her real name's out there, it's
• 1:00:16
  something like I forget what it is, but you can find it pretty quickly.
• 1:00:20
  But they they I couldn't find anything, and it might just be buried
• 1:00:24
  in like the tenth page at Google because all this other stuff has come out
• 1:00:28
  now. But I don't know. I don't know if she I would assume
• 1:00:31
  that she's been arrested. I would assume that there was some truth to the
• 1:00:35
  police all knowing who she was, because, yeah, because that was one
• 1:00:40
  of the things that they did pay attention to. Yeah. And then I
• 1:00:45
  think when he went to the cops at first time, that they were gonna
• 1:00:49
  like that she had already come to them, and that it was they were
• 1:00:51
  going to be like when he went into the back for the first time,
• 1:00:54
  I thought for sure she was like the detective was going to be like,
• 1:01:00
  you're suspect in this attack on Martha whatever. And I thought she had already
• 1:01:07
  like jumped the gun so that he would look like the villain. And then
• 1:01:10
  it was cool to see like, Nope, it's it's real, like in
• 1:01:15
  terms of like, it's not going to be that weird twist where now he
• 1:01:19
  has to defend himself. Well, I thought, but that kind of did
• 1:01:22
  happen with her saying that he she recorded him, are you saying, well,
• 1:01:28
  later it did, I'm saying the first time he goes to the police.
• 1:01:31
  Oh and I see check in desk. Guy is like, oh shit,
• 1:01:36
  and he's like, follow me please, and I, oh, gotcha.
• 1:01:39
  Martha had created a norow. I didn't think that. I didn't think
• 1:01:44
  that, but I was surprised later on when he went there and she was
• 1:01:47
  starting to question him about how he's trying to set her up. Yeah,
• 1:01:52
  she was like, I record everything. I was like, I don't know
• 1:01:54
  about that, you know, but the scent from the iPhone thing got me.
• 1:01:59
  Every time that part I had to laugh and it was always a little
• 1:02:04
  different in the misspellings and yeah, oh my god, it's great. Yeah,
• 1:02:13
  hey, yeah, yeah, what a show you know. Yeah,
• 1:02:17
  I mean you watched it like all in one take. I watched it over
• 1:02:22
  a couple of days. It's intense either way, it really, really,
• 1:02:25
  really is. I wonder what's in his future because I found him to be
• 1:02:32
  an incredible actor. If nothing else, I could see him going straight to
• 1:02:37
  like not Game of Thrones, but any other you know, like the Dragons
• 1:02:44
  series. I can see him on so many things that I don't know.
• 1:02:49
  I could also see him not doing anything ever again, because that seems to
• 1:02:52
  be his gear too, Like he'll just do or he'll know, or he'll
• 1:02:57
  want a live performance. I think he went like live performance, but I
• 1:03:00
  think he wants success, success, success. I mean, that's the takeaway
• 1:03:06
  that I got from it, was that he was willing to do anything for
• 1:03:08
  but then then he had it, and then he sabotaged, like he ended
• 1:03:14
  it. Remember like when it hit for him in this series, like when
• 1:03:16
  the thing went viral and then all of a sudden he had everything he wanted,
• 1:03:22
  and then he just shut down and became a hermit again and just surrounded
• 1:03:24
  himself with all his demons. Like I feel like that he might just keep
• 1:03:30
  doing that pattern. Who knows. I think he'll always be a live performer
• 1:03:34
  in a really cool way. But I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:03:37
  Maybe he hits. Maybe he's one of those people that like hits his stride
• 1:03:40
  and then has to pull back. I don't know. Maybe I do think
• 1:03:45
  that he you know, it was very clear what his motives were, and
• 1:03:52
  I think that those dreams won't have gone away. I think that he's very
• 1:03:55
  happy that this is a huge success, and I think he's ready ready for
• 1:04:00
  the next step. Yeah, that's my saying it. I wonder if he
• 1:04:05
  really did go back to the producer's house that day. Though, you know,
• 1:04:10
  I wonder if that person, I'm sure he's running to that person again
• 1:04:17
  because it's it's not that big of a town and this the industry's pretty small
• 1:04:25
  there, so I would think that their paths have crossed. And I am
• 1:04:30
  sure that person denied any like real responsibility of course. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:39
  right, so just just disturbing. I loved the dad was awesome and the
• 1:04:45
  dad was amazing. Yeah, that was like one of my favorite parts of
• 1:04:50
  the whole series is that arc. That was a beautiful arc. I didn't
• 1:04:56
  expect that at all. It was really nice. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
• 1:05:00
  I wonder if there will be a baby reindeer too in the works or
• 1:05:03
  we'll see. I mean, I don't know. Maybe they get her on,
• 1:05:08
  can'try to tell her something. No, I think they should definitely leave
• 1:05:12
  her alone. And you know, I couldn't help but have a little empathy
• 1:05:15
  for her and the mental illness. I mean, it's it's really disturbing and
• 1:05:19
  it's really sad. Yeah, And I think to him, what's next for
• 1:05:26
  him too, Like he doesn't ever have to work again, Like I'm sure
• 1:05:30
  he made a shit ton of money on this and maybe he just would want
• 1:05:35
  to like do whatever he wants to do. It might not be a huge
• 1:05:40
  blockbuster Netflix thing, but like, good for him. He's been through enough.
• 1:05:45
  Like if he just wants to chill, that's fine too. He doesn't
• 1:05:46
  want to chill. He wants to rise his wave. I guarantee it.
• 1:05:51
  I'm not saying he's any less of an authentic person. I just think that
• 1:05:56
  he has a dream and it's going to happen like he wants to do.
• 1:06:00
  He wants to go as far as he can. I but I also think,
• 1:06:04
  like those sprits man, they love live performance, you know what I
• 1:06:10
  mean that that is a lot the stage. I could just see him being
• 1:06:16
  a stage performer for a really long time because I don't know if he can.
• 1:06:21
  I don't know. There was a lot of this performance that, like
• 1:06:24
  you said, was tapping into like a level of trauma that really also helped
• 1:06:30
  so I then maybe helped him heal. I don't know. We'll see what
• 1:06:35
  happens, all right. Well, guys, thanks for listening, and we're
• 1:06:42
  back tomorrow with Vander Pump Rules and like, is that show still on?
• 1:06:48
  Yes? It is, Thank you, Emily. Yeah, bye for now.
• 1:06:56
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