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Mold Poisoning: The Hidden Danger in Your Home & What To Do About It | What's Eating U?! Tea Time · What's Eating U?!

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Sam: Ooh, talking, talking about what's eating you.
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Sam: Talking about what's eating in you.
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Sam: Proudly brought to you by Rogers Hood Apothecary.
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Sam: What's up, What's Eating You, fam?
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Sam: Welcome to a super special episode of What's Eating You.
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Sam: Kim and I are here in Miami, Florida for a special tea time.
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Sam: We're spilling the tea on mold today.
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Sam: We are spilling the tea on mold.
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Kim: Yeah.
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Kim: We're gonna talk all about the mold and how right now all of that is trending.
0:32
Kim: It's not really a trend to me.
0:34
Kim: It's really been my life.
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Sam: Right.
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Kim: And we've talked about that on previous episodes.
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Kim: The one that we were in Seattle.
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Sam: Basically, just type in what's eating you mold and find all of our previous episodes about mold and tap in because we share everything.
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Kim: Yeah.
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Kim: So right now it's becoming a big topic, and we were just quickly talking before we hopped on about how important this is for us to be able to have the government like RFK Jr.
1:00
Kim: and all these celebrities talking about mold, like Jenny McCarthy and Tori Spelling, which I've chatted with her in the past about her mold and where she was at.
1:10
Kim: Because you can clearly see when someone has mold poisoning throughout the, you know, Instagram and all the social media.
1:16
Kim: But what's so important about it, you guys, is that we don't really have great coverage.
1:21
Kim: We don't have good insurance that covers it.
1:23
Kim: That's medical, as well as, you know, could be renter's insurance, could be homeowners' insurance.
1:29
Kim: When this is brought to the forefront like this by the government, specifically right now, RFK Jr., because he also had mold poisoning.
1:37
Kim: And so it affected his family dearly, it allows us to re-evaluate what's going on in our government and what's going on in the way insurances cover us.
1:46
Kim: Because what happened to me and Jeremy, not only was I like the sickest I've ever been, and we were the poorest we were ever.
1:54
Kim: I mean, I bankrupted us because of my medical.
1:56
Kim: And so now we've lost our travel trailer that we were living in because of black toxic mold.
2:02
Kim: You can't bring anything with you.
2:04
Kim: So there was a whole level of like invasion feeling because you're sick.
2:09
Kim: Now you have to throw everything away, and you have to decide do I live in it knowing I'm in it, or do I leave and I'm homeless, which is what we chose to do, but we couldn't bring anything with us.
2:20
Kim: I remember the day we left, and I have pictures of it because it was just very difficult.
2:26
Kim: We brought everything out that was a hard surface, and we wiped it all down with alcohol, and then we packed it in bins and we put it in the back of our car, and that's all seen pictures of that.
2:37
Kim: Yeah, it was crazy, right?
2:39
Kim: That's all we brought.
2:39
Sam: That's imagine you guys like you find out you're living in black toxic mold that's poisoning you, and you have to flee and get out of it, and you can only take like I mean, what what's the deal with that?
2:53
Sam: Because spores get in everything.
2:56
Kim: Well, specifically black mold, those spores, you'll breathe them in, you can't get them out of material.
3:03
Kim: Yeah, you can't well, anything that isn't a wipable surface, right?
3:07
Kim: And even that, we didn't bring I had like a hundred and twenty-year-old, amazing, beautiful old school desk.
3:16
Kim: You know, the like 1924, maybe it was a hundred years old.
3:20
Kim: Um, that you'd sit one and then the desk, I had to throw it away.
3:23
Kim: It was my mom's, and it was so upsetting.
3:25
Kim: We had to throw all, we just got brand new chairs, and Jeremy actually said, if you think there's mold in here, don't buy these new chairs.
3:30
Kim: I'm like, we're fine.
3:31
Kim: Nope.
3:32
Kim: Had to throw all of it away.
3:34
Sam: And you even told me you guys have like your photos in Ziploc, it be because you have they have to be contained.
3:40
Sam: Yes.
3:41
Sam: And you have them like somewhere, but they're inside of Ziploc because they were contaminated.
3:45
Sam: Yes.
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Kim: So mold, man, mold, like it's it's a needle, and it's a spore and a needle, and it sticks in and then it grows and it develops, and then it like, and once you get poisoned like that, you really can't go around it.
3:58
Kim: And so you're you can't be around your stuff again, right?
4:00
Kim: So you have to throw it away.
4:01
Kim: So not only are you sick, but now you're like, How financially am I gonna do this?
4:06
Kim: And it made me and Jeremy homeless.
4:08
Kim: We had to go live in a hotel for a month and then find an Airbnb.
4:12
Kim: Yeah, and we only had basically the clothes on our back, legitimately.
4:16
Sam: You literally have to start over.
4:18
Kim: We had to start totally over, and even the clothes on our back we had to throw away once we went and bought new clothes.
4:22
Sam: That's crazy.
4:23
Sam: Yeah, because we were itchy, of course, of course.
4:25
Kim: Because it like, yeah, and it was tough, it was so tough because he still had to work on the house, and I was building the business, yeah.
4:33
Kim: So it was really a it was really tough on us, and I'm grateful for the way everything played out, but like we already lost everything once when we moved out to that property.
4:45
Kim: So all we had in our life was in that trailer and a seven by seven.
4:49
Sam: Wow.
4:50
Sam: Yeah.
4:51
Sam: You know, people ask us this question quite often when we hop on a live and we're talking about mold.
4:55
Sam: People always ask, okay, if I know I'm in a home that has mold, but I can't get out of it yet, should I wait to cleanse or should I start cleansing now?
5:06
Kim: Such a good question.
5:08
Kim: Such a good question.
5:09
Kim: Um, if you can get out, go.
5:12
Kim: But if you can't, first off, mold hijacks your nervous system and your brain.
5:18
Kim: And so you gotta just give yourself some grace.
5:20
Kim: It's an emotional poisoning, in my opinion.
5:23
Kim: I was way more uh in my feelings with it, as and it was also because I knew I had to leave, but in a moment I found out I had mold, we had to go back to the travel trailer.
5:37
Kim: So I do know what that feels like.
5:39
Kim: We actually left, went to a place, it had a bed bug, and then I looked at Jeremy and go, we just have to go back to the mold, Jeremy.
5:47
Kim: I'm sorry, I don't I don't know for how long.
5:49
Kim: Right.
5:50
Sam: So you were one of those people because like people ask that a lot, like, hey, I can't get out yet.
5:54
Sam: So you had to go back in it.
5:55
Sam: Yeah.
5:55
Sam: So cleanse or not to cleanse?
5:57
Kim: Cleanse.
5:58
Kim: Cleanse because, and this is why I say paraphy first.
6:01
Kim: The once you find out you have mold and you start taking wormwood, it suppresses the mold spores from continuing to colonize in your body.
6:09
Kim: So picture like what your wall looks like with mold.
6:11
Kim: That's what it looks like in your body with your cells.
6:13
Kim: And so wormwood will actually suppress the colonization in your body, giving you energy and giving you your life back in those moments to be able to methodically think and feel less stressed about your next plan because that's the whole thing.
6:30
Kim: You're living in it, remediation doesn't always work.
6:33
Kim: You need to like focus, but you're exhausted because mold just exhausts you.
6:38
Kim: Like, I could barely put sentences together.
6:40
Kim: They say that people have mold poisonings like Alzheimer's three.
6:43
Sam: Wow.
6:44
Kim: And I I totally agree because there were moments where I was like, I don't, I was on the phone once with Erica and I was like, I don't even know how to form the sentence, Erica.
6:52
Kim: This is the weirdest thing ever.
6:54
Kim: And that's when it was like in the thick of it, and when I ended up calling Jay.
6:57
Kim: Because I'm like, I can't even, word is here, but it won't come out here.
7:01
Kim: And that's a common theme when you have mold poisoning.
7:05
Kim: So I feel like because I cleansed with Perify for that whole year I was living in the mold, the wormwood suppressed it.
7:13
Kim: And like I've said before, as soon as I got off of the Parify kit, then I realized I had mold poisoning three months later, and then I got on the herbs that we created moldies with.
7:22
Kim: And then I was able to function at least in the environment because even though we weren't in the travel trailer, it was still on our property.
7:31
Kim: And so the spores, I mean, it was so moldy.
7:34
Sam: And also you were in a moldy environment.
7:36
Sam: Oh, yeah, the rainforest internally too, the rainforest.
7:38
Sam: So it's like you just couldn't get away from it.
7:40
Sam: Right.
7:40
Sam: It's so moldy.
7:41
Sam: Wow.
7:42
Sam: And then, like, once mold gets into your system, it seems like whenever you come in contact with any mold, it's like like it's like once you've been infiltrated with mold at some point.
7:53
Sam: Whenever you come into contact with mold, like it's almost like you get symptom flares.
7:57
Kim: Yes.
7:58
Kim: Well, we talked about that at dinner tonight.
8:00
Kim: We're in Miami.
8:01
Kim: We went to a conference, and at that conference, we were laying on this mat, the PMF with the um fire cat.
8:11
Sam: We love the one that you can feel.
8:13
Sam: Like, zap me, man.
8:14
Sam: I want to feel it.
8:15
Kim: It feels so good.
8:16
Sam: I like when it's extreme, and I'm like, Yeah, she's like cranking it.
8:20
Kim: I'm like, go more.
8:21
Kim: And she's like, Really?
8:22
Kim: I'm like, do it.
8:22
Sam: Oh, really?
8:23
Sam: Like, once I hit a certain spot, I have to tell her, like, okay, okay, chill for a sec.
8:27
Sam: I'm like, let me get used to this setting.
8:29
Sam: I love it.
8:30
Sam: And then your body will adjust, and then you're like, oh, I could take a little more, you know what I mean?
8:33
Sam: But like, yeah, P EMF, fire.
8:35
Sam: Okay, so we're laying on the colour.
8:37
Sam: You could see all the mold.
8:38
Sam: I was looking at the ceiling, like, this is a health and wellness conference.
8:42
Kim: Oh, in a couple of years.
8:43
Kim: Conferences end up in moldy hotels.
8:46
Kim: It's pretty conference centers, hotel.
8:48
Kim: It's pretty normal to have them.
8:49
Sam: We're gonna have to build and create our own conference where everything is actually holistic and wellness based.
8:55
Sam: Yeah.
8:56
Sam: Because I don't like going to play, like, I don't like going to conferences like this is a health and wellness conference, and they serve you poison for snacks and food.
9:02
Sam: Yeah.
9:02
Sam: You're like, how is this a health and wellness conference?
9:04
Sam: Like, what do you mean?
9:05
Sam: Like, if it's not all the way health and wellness, then it's not.
9:10
Sam: So do it all the way or don't do it at all.
9:12
Kim: That's my motto.
9:13
Kim: Agreed.
9:13
Kim: All right.
9:14
Kim: So we're laying there, and then since being here, I've had some symptoms of teeth issues, which happens with people that have mold poisoning, Lyme, and parasites.
9:24
Sam: Oh, okay.
9:25
Sam: Let's let's unpack that for a sec.
9:27
Sam: Because we put this together because she's like, Oh my gosh, how weird is it that every time I go to Miami, I have teeth pain and teeth issues.
9:34
Sam: And I was like, every time?
9:36
Sam: She's like, Yeah, I'm like, You think it's the mold out here?
9:39
Sam: Possibly.
9:39
Sam: Because there's a lot of mold here.
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Sam: And you guys, when we tell you it is thick in Miami right now, it is hot and humid.
9:47
Kim: Yeah, it is thick, and all that condensation's gotta go somewhere, and it's gotta settle and it never goes away.
9:53
Kim: So, of course, mold's gonna form.
9:54
Sam: Yeah, and all the dope restaurants we hit in South Beach, and we like go to the bathroom, and they like are like they're up those stairs, and the stairs are covered in carpet from 1900, and like you smell, you're in there, and you're like, I smell the mold in here.
10:09
Sam: This is what's crazy.
10:10
Sam: Moldar is a real thing, and the Rogers, they really got moldar, and they've like trained Bishop and I to have moldar because whenever we go into any building now, we're like mold.
10:21
Sam: We're like, there's mold in here.
10:23
Sam: Like you can smell it out.
10:24
Sam: You have moldar once you like know what it is, you know.
10:27
Sam: Um, I I still don't like I I still know that I've tested positive for fungus in my gut at one point, which is mold.
10:34
Sam: Right.
10:34
Sam: So, like, I'm aware of that.
10:35
Sam: Still have a mold cleanse.
10:37
Sam: I know everybody's gonna hold me to it because top of this season, I'm like, I'm doing it.
10:40
Sam: I'm gonna do it.
10:41
Sam: I'm gonna do it.
10:42
Sam: Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
10:43
Sam: Um, but I I that I know of have never been engulfed in mold.
10:49
Kim: I've never been in an You've never been you don't have mold poisoning.
10:51
Kim: Yes.
10:52
Kim: You've been in you've been around.
10:52
Kim: I mean, we've all been a mold.
10:53
Kim: We've all been exposed to mold.
10:55
Kim: Yeah, and you probably have a little mold in your body.
10:56
Kim: Probably a little bit.
10:57
Kim: You don't have mold poison poisoning.
11:00
Kim: Yeah, Jenny McCarthy has mold poisoning.
11:02
Kim: Her home poisoned her.
11:03
Kim: Okay, got it.
11:04
Kim: Dr.
11:04
Kim: Pompa had mold poisoning.
11:06
Kim: RFK Jr.
11:07
Kim: Mole poisoning.
11:08
Kim: I have mold poisoning.
11:09
Kim: My levels were high.
11:10
Kim: I believe some people have to stay in the mold.
11:14
Kim: And if you do, you 100% should be cleansing.
11:17
Kim: Yeah.
11:18
Kim: Alleviate some of the spores.
11:20
Kim: Burden.
11:20
Kim: Yeah, and allow your body, it might not get to the right capacity, but like you should continue to keep cleansing until you're out of it.
11:28
Kim: So you do start with paraphy.
11:30
Kim: That's my opinion, not medical advice.
11:32
Kim: The wormwood suppresses it, allows you to get ready.
11:34
Kim: Well, first start with the lymph.
11:36
Kim: You start with the lymph kit, open up your pathways, wellness.
11:38
Kim: You're gonna start learning how to bind, you're gonna start learning the three tinctures in a binder system.
11:43
Kim: Then you do two paraphy kits, and that's because spores are held inside of worms.
11:50
Kim: But say you don't have parasites, which I'm gonna limb here because everybody I talk to passes worms when they leave the mold.
11:58
Kim: I mean, it's just a normal thing.
12:00
Kim: So you're already allowing your body to process parasites which hold spores.
12:06
Kim: You're suppressing with the wormwood of the continuation of the spores colonizing.
12:11
Kim: You get a little bit of brain function back, allowing you to move yourself forward on if you stay in the house or if you have enough energy to get humidifier, dehumidifiers, to get air fill.
12:25
Kim: I mean, when you have brain fog as bad as mold poisoning, the few minutes that you get of like clarity, you're like, I'm gonna run with it, right?
12:33
Kim: So you allow yourself to get a breath and then you pivot to the moldies kit.
12:39
Sam: I'm gonna break that down like from what I just heard.
12:42
Sam: Okay, like simplify it a little bit.
12:44
Sam: Cause because I I think it's actually brilliant.
12:47
Sam: So basically, if you're in mold, like if you know you're in mold or you don't know you're in mold, then you find out you are.
12:53
Sam: Like I did.
12:54
Sam: Yes, right.
12:54
Sam: So if you are in mold, yes, start cleansing because you're lightening your load and you're lightening the the toxic burden, and you're at least, even if you're still in it, so you're still breathing it in, you're still coming into contact with it, you are getting it out at the same time.
13:10
Sam: A little bit all of it.
13:12
Sam: No, no, no.
13:13
Sam: But you're getting some out, right?
13:14
Sam: And you're suppressing it too from growing more and expanding more.
13:18
Sam: So you're keeping it at bay at least.
13:20
Sam: It's like you can't eliminate it fully when you're in it, but you can at least like lessen it enough that it creates energy and you get a little bit of energy back because the other beautiful thing about moldees, right?
13:33
Kim: It's mitochondrial support.
13:35
Kim: Yes.
13:35
Kim: So if you don't have mold poisoning and you still want to take moldies, it is mitochondria support.
13:40
Kim: I put in herbs to help boost the mitochondria.
13:43
Kim: Your ATP is like depleted, which pushes the mitochondria.
13:47
Kim: And when you have mold, the spores are developing where the mitochondria is supposed to be generated.
13:54
Kim: Get out of here.
13:54
Kim: So it's like it's like spokes in the wheel.
13:57
Kim: That's what it is spokes in the wheel.
13:59
Kim: That's crazy.
14:00
Kim: And it's really like super sh, like there's they're like literally like spores.
14:05
Sam: Oh my god.
14:06
Kim: Yeah, it's spokes in the wheel.
14:07
Kim: So it stops that continuation of your body producing the energy, and that's why your brain fog is so bad.
14:14
Kim: And also, one of the things that I've really struggled with since getting out of the mold is feeling hungry.
14:20
Kim: I've really never had the opportunity the whole like consistently.
14:25
Kim: I don't get hungry.
14:27
Kim: It's because it creates metabolic dysfunction and a disorder.
14:31
Kim: And so a lot of people that are in mold are so overweight and they think it's them, but really they're just in mold.
14:38
Kim: And like, even doing any sort of like, now this was my own experience.
14:43
Kim: I only did it once, but even doing like a GLP one, I only didn't, it didn't work on me and Jeremy, even though it's for metabolic dysfunction.
14:51
Kim: We really struggled with inside of us losing any sort of uh of weight, and that was for a few years.
14:58
Kim: I mean, it was just recently that both of us have started to move past having a metabolic dysfunction.
15:04
Kim: It's because it creates a barrier between your gut and your brain, and it stops allowing your body to feel hungry.
15:12
Kim: So, one of the side of symptoms of mold poisoning is not ever feeling hungry, peeing all night long because your body is trying to push those spores out.
15:21
Kim: You're not getting old.
15:22
Kim: You literally are peeing all night because you're involved in mold.
15:26
Sam: You're talking about while sleeping?
15:27
Sam: Yeah.
15:27
Kim: Like wake up like five, five times, five, six times a night.
15:32
Kim: Jeremy and I would get up.
15:33
Kim: And we were in a trailer, right?
15:34
Kim: So we were getting up every time one of us would get up.
15:37
Kim: It would the trailer would move sometimes and we're like, oh, it's time to fix, you know, like pump it back up because then you knew it was every time one of us got up.
15:47
Kim: So it was like 10 times a night.
15:48
Kim: I mean, it was crazy how much we were peeing in the thick of us being in that mold.
15:53
Kim: And usually, if you're changing seasons, that's when you're gonna know that you have the most mold in your house.
15:59
Kim: Wow.
15:59
Kim: You turn on your air conditioning, they're like a huge way to catch to get mold.
16:04
Kim: There's condensation dripping in your HVAC system.
16:08
Kim: You've got like the ducting gets wet and creates mold inside of there.
16:13
Kim: So you're cranking on your air conditioner, shutting all your windows down during the summer, and then you're feeling like trash.
16:19
Kim: You're just blasting the black.
16:20
Kim: That's right.
16:21
Kim: You're blasting the black mold with the spores, and then you have to get rid of your furniture.
16:25
Kim: So there's like multiple levels of stress.
16:28
Kim: Well, let moldies take some of that stress away from you, you know.
16:32
Kim: I mean, I really had to go through it in order to make a cleanse.
16:36
Kim: Yeah.
16:36
Kim: Just like Parapy.
16:38
Sam: It like gives you enough energy and clarity, like just enough to be able to put the plan together and make your next move to like get out of this.
16:46
Sam: Yes.
16:47
Sam: Because also, though, let's talk about mold hold for a second.
16:50
Sam: Because you can be in it and it can be your your brain and your body can be telling you, nah, just stay, you're good, stay in it.
16:56
Sam: And you're just like stuck and you feel stuck in it.
16:58
Sam: And that's literally the mold being like, eh, yeah, you're brainwashing you, gaslighting you.
17:04
Sam: It wants its friends.
17:05
Sam: It wants it wants its home.
17:07
Sam: It's like, hey, I'm we're growing in you.
17:09
Sam: We're growing in you.
17:10
Sam: Yeah, we're like, we're inside of here, it's dark, warm, and moist.
17:14
Sam: It's like the perfect place for a mold to grow.
17:18
Sam: That's crazy.
17:19
Sam: Let's let's talk about the difference between mold exposure and mold poisoning.
17:24
Sam: Okay.
17:24
Kim: Because can can mold poisoning like can it take you out?
17:29
Kim: Uh a hundred percent.
17:32
Kim: I want to look at the statistics of how many people.
17:35
Kim: Well, for me particularly, it was slowly taking me out because of all my co-infections.
17:42
Kim: It was a co-infection, but it was the hardest thing I've ever done.
17:46
Kim: I would take parasites all day, every day over mold poisoning.
17:50
Kim: Really?
17:50
Kim: It was terrible.
17:52
Kim: I'm sorry, you guys.
17:53
Kim: I'm just gonna be as real as I can here.
17:55
Kim: I'm not trying to scare anyone.
17:57
Kim: There's so many answers.
17:58
Kim: We there's so much help out there.
18:00
Kim: You can always reach out to us.
18:02
Kim: But like, it was the hardest thing I've ever been through.
18:04
Kim: And we were in the thick of building Roger's Hood, and I was in the thick of um going viral, and then I'm homeless now because we were still building our log home, and that's why Jeremy didn't get as sick as I got, because I was in there 24-7 in my chair, you know.
18:21
Kim: And so now we're homeless.
18:23
Kim: Even though it was really hard, it really did bring me out, and I started healing because I went and did mold avoidance, and we'll talk about what mold avoidance is.
18:33
Kim: I was forced to shift out of the trailer where I was very comfortable and very ready to just kind of still keep building my my business.
18:42
Kim: And like I was forced to move myself, get myself out of that comfort zone.
18:48
Kim: And Jeremy pushed even harder on the log home because we had nowhere to live, you know, and we just knew and we moved in there illegally.
18:58
Sam: But we'll cut that out.
18:59
Kim: Yeah.
18:59
Kim: And we moved.
19:02
Kim: I don't know.
19:04
Kim: I'm on a roll.
19:05
Sam: You are good thing I know a producer.
19:09
Sam: We committed crimes.
19:11
Kim: Wait, wait.
19:16
Kim: I totally do all the time.
19:17
Kim: I'm like, well, we moved in.
19:18
Kim: We'll keep it in.
19:19
Kim: I lived in there illegally.
19:20
Kim: Listen, we didn't shower in there because we didn't have a shower.
19:23
Kim: We showered in another trailer we owned.
19:25
Kim: We didn't have any heat in there.
19:27
Kim: We had space eaters.
19:29
Kim: We didn't give a shit.
19:30
Kim: We weren't living in the mold trailer, okay?
19:31
Kim: That's what me and Jeremy would always say.
19:33
Kim: And if anyone tried to come and take us out, I mean, whoa, like a sheriff was gonna be like, you can live in that mold shit trailer back there, but you can't live in this log home that's like more solid than that.
19:44
Kim: Me and Jeremy were like, that's the stupidest thing we've ever heard.
19:48
Kim: So yeah, so stupid.
19:51
Kim: It's so stupid.
19:52
Kim: It's so you could live in a car, that's yeah, but you can't live in this log home that's like more solid than most inspectors came in and said.
19:59
Kim: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:00
Kim: Anyway, okay, so mold poisoning.
20:02
Sam: You were looking up statistics.
20:03
Kim: Oh, yeah, statistics about how many people because um and then mold avoidance.
20:06
Kim: So while I'm looking this up, mold avoidance is kind of a trend right now for people.
20:11
Kim: It's people are understanding you can go pitch a tent in your backyard and go and sleep in there to have mold avoidance and they're healing while sleeping in this tent.
20:20
Sam: Oh my gosh, listen to that, you guys.
20:22
Sam: That's like a solution.
20:23
Sam: Like that is a DIY, cheap, easy solution.
20:28
Sam: If you are in mold and you absolutely can't get out and you are really sick and ill and don't have energy and have brain fog and you can't put your plan together to leave.
20:38
Sam: If you have a yard, if you have a backyard, camp in it for a while.
20:43
Kim: And then people can then go back into their homes and tolerate it a little bit better.
20:48
Kim: So they do that a few times a year.
20:50
Kim: A couple of friends of mine, when I learned about mold avoidance, when I first found out I had mold poisoning, we tried to leave the first time, had to come back.
20:58
Kim: I found out what mold avoidance was, and that's why we went and lived in that hotel because we were trying to avoid.
21:04
Kim: And then that would allow us if we had to go back into that trailer, it would allow us to stay in there for another period of time and not get as sick as the first time and then leave again, right?
21:14
Sam: Yeah.
21:14
Sam: While you're looking that up, another part of mold avoidance, avoidance that you can implement besides just relocating yourself out of the actual environment that has mold is you can also avoid foods that are known to have mold in them.
21:29
Sam: Because the point is you're avoiding mold during that time.
21:33
Sam: So, like anything that contains mold.
21:35
Sam: And off the top of my head, just to name a few, I know some of the highest ones is peanuts and pistachios and coffee.
21:45
Sam: Dave Asprey brought that one up.
21:47
Sam: The mold and the coffee.
21:48
Sam: Not organic um coffee.
21:50
Sam: And then like a lot of peppers, really?
21:53
Sam: Red peppers, from what I understand.
21:54
Sam: Oh, really?
21:55
Sam: Yes, I know a lot of berries.
21:57
Sam: Um, you have to really inspect the berries and fruit.
22:00
Sam: In general, a lot.
22:01
Sam: Like, you know, I was super stoked for figs to get back in season.
22:05
Sam: And like I ordered them from Whole Foods.
22:08
Sam: I had them delivered, obviously.
22:10
Sam: And um, when they came in the little basket, I like pulled the top one off, and under was like a bunch of mold, and then it was just like the whole thing was molded.
22:18
Sam: I'm like, well, first of all, you you suck, shopper.
22:21
Sam: Like, why would you choose this for me?
22:23
Sam: But second of all, like, this whole thing is moldy.
22:26
Sam: I'm not gonna eat any of it now.
22:27
Sam: You know, Jerry even taught me, like, you know, he's like, if if if inside of a bag of bagels, bread, buns, whatever, like bagged carbs, there's any mold, it's not like, oh, because it's on that side of the loaf.
22:41
Sam: Spores, on that side of the loaf, the other side of the loaf is safe.
22:44
Sam: It's not because the spores are in the bag, it means everything has spores and everything's contaminated.
22:50
Sam: So if you're practicing mold avoidance, then also stay away from the foods that have mold.
22:55
Kim: Yep, that's true.
22:56
Kim: That's so true.
22:57
Kim: Uh, I forgot what I was gonna say.
23:00
Kim: You are we're talking about we were talking about the food, was it coffee?
23:06
Sam: Was it Dave Aspury?
23:07
Sam: Was it then the berries?
23:08
Sam: I said the berries, be careful about the berries, the figs, the mold.
23:11
Kim: Oh, you know what?
23:12
Kim: You know what's happening?
23:13
Kim: What the the fruit can have issues, and so can your produce because there's mold where the fruit is and produce is displayed in the store too.
23:21
Kim: Have you seen them moving those things out of the way?
23:24
Kim: And then it's just well, it's war, it's moist, they're not cleaning it out.
23:29
Kim: Are we talking about like the shelves that have like the sprayers?
23:31
Kim: Yeah, those like by the way, the sprayers spray no matter where you are.
23:36
Kim: I'm sorry.
23:36
Kim: Okay, okay, no matter where you are, spill the tea.
23:39
Kim: They're not spraying, spill it, spill it.
23:42
Kim: They're not spraying just water at sprouts.
23:47
Kim: Even on the organic section?
23:49
Kim: Yo, man, let's Google it.
23:51
Kim: Okay, I'll chat GPT it.
23:53
Kim: Okay, so according to our favorite place, the CDC, at least 7,000 people died from mold and fungal infections in the United States in a single year, up to significantly from 450 deaths.
24:07
Kim: They say in 1969, they say one out of two people now.
24:12
Kim: That's why this is a crisis, that's why it's being brought to the forefront.
24:15
Kim: So RFK Jr.
24:17
Kim: brought in lime.
24:17
Kim: Now he's bringing up mold.
24:19
Kim: Y'all know what's next, right?
24:20
Kim: You guys have got to know.
24:22
Kim: Parasite.
24:23
Kim: There is a major issue with environmental toxins that we have talked about, well, for me for sure, for five years.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:31
Kim: And I am loud, man.
24:33
Kim: I have carved a way for people to be able to discuss this truly so that it can be open for them.
24:40
Kim: It's so ridiculous that we have to go around worrying about these environmental toxins like we aren't a third world country.
24:49
Kim: We are the most sickest, and there's a reason.
24:51
Kim: And that's that's what he's trying to bring to the forefront.
24:54
Kim: One out of two people have some form of mold in their body.
24:58
Kim: And the crazy part is the denying of it.
25:01
Kim: My mom gave me mold in utero, like it can be proven.
25:05
Kim: You can pass that on to your child.
25:08
Kim: She unknowingly did that, and like we talk about it often.
25:11
Kim: She had a mold disease, and we were in a mold officer's home.
25:15
Kim: And like, come on, like, this is a real thing.
25:18
Kim: 7,000 people can die, have died.
25:22
Kim: Like, it used to be 450 deaths in 1969.
25:26
Kim: And then how 7,000 people, yeah, according to the CBC CDC in a single year, 2021.
25:34
Kim: So the last time they took this number, 7,000 people died in 2021.
25:38
Kim: Hospitalization, 75,000 people have been hospitalized every year.
25:44
Kim: Yet the insurance companies don't want to cover certain tests to find out if that's what it is.
25:51
Kim: And there isn't good testing for this either.
25:54
Kim: I had to get so many vials of blood, and Jay had to just my doctor, Dr.
26:00
Kim: Juliana Giles, she helped me with this.
26:03
Kim: Once I figured out, oh my God, something's wrong with me, more than just parasites.
26:07
Kim: Now we just drew just buckets of blood.
26:11
Kim: And then when it came back, she had to know pretty much what molds to choose from because there's so many, and there isn't one blanketed mold test.
26:20
Kim: So she kind of had to just go, okay, well, we're always gonna test for aspergillus niger.
26:24
Kim: But then there's clatto that's around us, that's a green mold, and that one poisoned me.
26:28
Kim: And that green mold messes with your brain.
26:31
Kim: Oh, oh, it's the I I I was you had multiple strains of mold.
26:34
Kim: Oh, I have 11, girl.
26:36
Kim: I have 11 active molds in my body that I'm yes to this day?
26:40
Kim: Yes.
26:41
Kim: When's the last time we got tested?
26:42
Kim: Uh I brought it down from 8.5 to 3.
26:46
Kim: Yeah.
26:47
Kim: It two years ago.
26:48
Kim: I haven't been tested for two years.
26:50
Kim: But at one point I had it from 8.5.
26:53
Kim: So 10 is the high, and I was 8.5.
26:56
Kim: That's Jeremy and I should have been in the hospital.
26:59
Kim: I'm telling you.
27:00
Kim: We were so sick.
27:02
Kim: You saw my pictures.
27:03
Kim: We were so sick.
27:04
Kim: And no one, I couldn't get any help.
27:07
Kim: And so that's why I'm like, well, what do I do here?
27:10
Kim: Right.
27:10
Kim: So I reached out to Jay and I'm all, girl, I need you to test me.
27:13
Kim: I think this is what's going on.
27:15
Kim: She goes, I've been thinking that too.
27:16
Kim: I got that download too.
27:17
Kim: And I'm like, okay, cool.
27:18
Kim: Let's test it.
27:19
Sam: Is the goal zero?
27:20
Sam: Or can you ever not be zero?
27:23
Sam: Is it like, and is there like an average?
27:26
Sam: Like, you know what I mean?
27:26
Sam: Like, what's like a healthy, what's the healthy number?
27:28
Sam: If 10's the highest, you were 8.5, which is crazy.
27:32
Sam: Crazy.
27:32
Sam: And so you brought down to three.
27:34
Sam: Congratulations.
27:34
Sam: Thanks.
27:35
Sam: With moldies.
27:36
Kim: Amazing.
27:36
Kim: I mean, I was able to document proof.
27:39
Kim: It was 4.5.
27:40
Kim: So I was 8.5 to 4.5 with the moldi skin.
27:44
Sam: Yeah.
27:45
Sam: Is your goal zero?
27:46
Sam: Or like one and below?
27:48
Sam: I just you know, just like minimal, like side effects from the mold.
27:51
Kim: So, like, so yeah, I think one, if I was like a one.
27:55
Kim: Yeah.
27:55
Kim: My EOS is really great, which is also an indication of fungus parasites, and it's a fungus, right?
28:01
Kim: And I'm not as sensitive as I used to be.
28:04
Kim: And that also shows me that I'm healing more.
28:07
Kim: Jeremy's not as sensitive.
28:08
Kim: He's more sensitive than me, but he's not as sensitive.
28:12
Kim: Like we're in a moldy space right now, and I haven't had any major reactions.
28:17
Kim: It's not terrible mold, but you know, it's Miami.
28:20
Sam: Is it possible once you have mold poisoning, not mold exposure, but mold poisoning, to ever get it all completely out of your body?
28:30
Sam: Is it possible?
28:32
Kim: I don't know.
28:33
Sam: You don't know?
28:34
Sam: I could look.
28:34
Sam: My gut says yes.
28:36
Sam: It's possible if you're zero.
28:38
Sam: If you, yeah, if you completely avoid, you completely get out of that environment.
28:43
Sam: You go to one that for sure is mold free.
28:45
Sam: Yes.
28:46
Sam: And then you cleanse and you cleanse and you get and you don't eat the thing and you completely focus on it.
28:52
Sam: I feel like you could do that.
28:54
Sam: Yeah, I feel like you I feel like you could get a gut test and a blood test and a P test and then come back not positive for mold after after mold poisoning, which is intense.
29:04
Sam: It's gotta be a it has to be a high number to be mold poisoning.
29:07
Sam: I think you can.
29:08
Kim: I I'm I feel confident in saying yes.
29:10
Kim: Yeah, same.
29:11
Kim: I also feel like it's a good goal to have, and you know, your blood work is really important to have when it comes to mold, and just have an idea.
29:21
Kim: And I believe that your symptoms will slowly change too when you start to get away from it, and then you won't have as many flares.
29:30
Kim: Because, like, remember two years ago, around my birthday, and I had that terrible meltdown flare.
29:36
Sam: Yes.
29:37
Kim: Okay, I'm sorry, girl.
29:38
Sam: Oh no, it's okay.
29:40
Kim: Listen, I just gotta say, you guys, Sam is one of the best friends that you can have when you're chronically ill.
29:48
Kim: Because she is so understanding, she's so appreciative, she's so she's so patient.
29:56
Kim: Like, it's hard when you're sick and you you don't know when you're gonna go down, but to have someone stand by your side and you just know that like when you come out the other end of it, that she's still gonna be standing there with you.
30:10
Kim: It's just it's such a great character you show on a daily basis.
30:15
Sam: I love you.
30:16
Sam: Yeah, you're so easy to love.
30:18
Kim: It's funny, I forget all the time that you're like chronically ill.
30:22
Kim: It's usually just my emotions, and really that has to do with the lime in the mold.
30:26
Sam: Yeah.
30:27
Kim: I mean, really, right.
30:28
Kim: It it looking back, it's like, oh, because that week I know that house had mold.
30:34
Kim: I know it did because I was good.
30:36
Kim: Remember, we got off that wellness cruise, and I was like, boom, it was great.
30:41
Kim: The next day I was down.
30:43
Sam: I remember all that happening, and I remember like your behavior during that time was pretty similar to the behavior like a year ago.
30:54
Sam: So, like, it is when something is like flared, active, chronic, inflamed.
31:01
Sam: My brain swells.
31:02
Sam: Your brain swells.
31:03
Sam: So so that can be triggered by mold, by an infection, yes, by Lyme, by PTSD.
31:11
Sam: Crazy how the like cause of the trigger can be different, but when you're chronically ill, you have all these things.
31:19
Sam: It's like a platter.
31:21
Sam: Yeah, excuse my language on my own damn podcast.
31:25
Sam: It's a plot, it's a but it's a platter.
31:27
Sam: You have a you have a buffet.
31:29
Sam: I do.
31:29
Sam: Kim has a buffet of ill of illnesses, labels.
31:33
Sam: I have a buffet of the cell.
31:34
Sam: Thank you.
31:34
Sam: Let's say that.
31:34
Sam: Let's say buffet buffet of labels, and then it's like it's like any of them can set it off.
31:40
Kim: Right.
31:41
Kim: And then when my brain swells, it's called autoimmune encephalitis.
31:44
Kim: Encephalitis meaning the brain is swelling and my autoimmune diseases.
31:48
Sam: Physical manifestation of something triggering it to do that.
31:54
Sam: Right.
31:54
Sam: That's the physical manifestation.
31:56
Sam: So then the the expression of it is the emotions and the mental, because that's like really um, do you think it's also pain in your body when you have like pain?
32:07
Sam: So it manifests in that way too.
32:09
Sam: But not as bad.
32:10
Sam: Okay, so really for you, the majority is emotion and mental.
32:13
Kim: Yeah, and I I'm always this I've always been a crier.
32:18
Kim: Like that's how I've shown Pisces moon.
32:20
Kim: Emotion.
32:21
Sam: I'm a Scorpio moon bitch.
32:22
Sam: I'm worse than you.
32:24
Sam: I do, but I do it in the dark by myself.
32:25
Sam: Oh my god, she's like in the dark, like by myself.
32:29
Sam: That's a Scorpio for you.
32:30
Sam: By myself.
32:31
Sam: That's literally what we do.
32:32
Sam: Like, you know.
32:33
Kim: Oh, I show it.
32:34
Sam: Well, like I show it sometimes, but like it's really important to me to not ever, ever, ever, ever, ever let anything negative that I'm experiencing on the inside affect anyone around me.
32:46
Sam: It's like top priority in my life.
32:49
Sam: I'd rather go and suffer alone and it not negatively affects someone around me than it like negatively because it bothers me if I do that.
32:58
Sam: I'm like, oh, you know.
33:00
Kim: Sam is a glass full with a sip.
33:03
Sam: Yeah, yeah.
33:04
Sam: I'm a glass full.
33:06
Sam: But I leave a little room at the top because you always gotta leave a little room in life.
33:09
Sam: Like, don't ever be totally full.
33:11
Sam: Yeah, you have to leave room for new to come.
33:13
Kim: She really does show with her colorfulness what her insides are like.
33:19
Kim: Oh, because you are very much like that.
33:21
Sam: Thanks.
33:22
Kim: Like consistently.
33:23
Kim: It's just bubbles all day, every day.
33:26
Sam: And so it's really what dad says too.
33:28
Sam: So thanks for that reflection.
33:29
Sam: Because he literally tells me he's like, You were literally, I have no doubt in my mind, you were put here to be a positive force.
33:37
Sam: Yeah.
33:38
Sam: He's like, so I don't get in the way of it because he can be a pessimist a lot.
33:41
Sam: My dad, even though he's like the greatest, like he's the best.
33:44
Sam: Love you, Dad.
33:45
Sam: But like he can, like, you know, like sometimes be a little glass half glass half empty guy.
33:50
Sam: I'm a glass half empty.
33:52
Sam: Right.
33:52
Sam: And I'm like, and I'm always like, no, no.
33:54
Sam: Every time she says that, I'm like, don't say that.
33:57
Sam: Um, but yeah, yeah, he's like, no, you were destined to be a positive force in life.
34:01
Sam: And I think that's probably also the generator, too, in me.
34:03
Sam: It's like, no, I'm like the battery pack.
34:05
Sam: Like, we have to keep going no matter what, we have to see the best in life.
34:07
Sam: And I and silver lining.
34:09
Sam: It's it's important to light other people up.
34:12
Sam: And that lights me up.
34:13
Sam: Lighting other people up lights me up.
34:15
Sam: So yeah, it's my pleasure.
34:16
Sam: Thanks for the reflection.
34:17
Kim: You're welcome.
34:19
Kim: You're welcome, especially because you know you got a mold poisoning best friend.
34:22
Kim: I mean, I'm you know, I mean, it's like, how much darker stuff can I get?
34:26
Kim: Lyme, parasites, mold.
34:28
Kim: I don't want anything else.
34:29
Kim: Pretty great for having all that stacked against you.
34:32
Sam: Thanks.
34:33
Sam: Because you do, like, like I get it, and especially when you're stressed.
34:36
Sam: Yeah, like you go through it, but you really are like one of like the most like light-hearted, funny, fun, like you like you carry this like light-hearted, playful energy in you, like all the time.
34:50
Sam: It's like very youthful energy.
34:52
Sam: So I think that that's gonna keep you alive for a long time because you do, you really are like you love to laugh and like you love, like, and you have like the best biggest laugh ever.
35:02
Sam: And it's so funny when we test before we start podcasting.
35:05
Sam: I'm like, okay, I'm testing because I'm the engineer, so I'm I'm like, okay, we're testing the audio, and I'm like, give me one of your laughs because her laugh is so loud, and then I'm like, give me your laugh, and she goes, ha ha! And I'm like, that's cute, that's your fake laugh.
35:19
Sam: That's the real one.
35:20
Sam: That's the real laugh.
35:22
Sam: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, though, you never let mold or lime or parasites steal your life force energy, and you've been fighting ever since.
35:31
Sam: You've been fighting, man.
35:32
Sam: And that's the way.
35:33
Sam: Like, you know, like please, anyone listening, like, don't give in, don't give up.
35:36
Sam: Like, oh, there's solutions, there's so many solutions, there's answers.
35:40
Kim: Um, like we're seeing how they're coming with those solutions.
35:43
Kim: They're literally no one's here to save you, but I'm watching people step in that for five years now I've been doing this.
35:50
Kim: Five years every day since July 18th of 2021.
35:54
Kim: I've never taken a day off.
35:55
Sam: Sure's that.
35:57
Sam: You are one hardworking, like, woo, much respect.
36:02
Sam: Yeah.
36:02
Kim: Every day, every day.
36:04
Kim: And I'm seeing it, and so it really is encouraging to me to continue to keep doing it, and even on the hardest days, because I don't know anybody that came out of the woods from dying to building what I've built.
36:19
Kim: It's uh I can't even wrap my head around it.
36:21
Kim: It's pretty wild.
36:22
Kim: Most days, you know, I keep myself a little disassociated from it.
36:26
Kim: To think that, you know, you can do this.
36:29
Kim: That's why I do it every day.
36:31
Kim: I I sh I want to show people like I didn't come for money.
36:35
Kim: In fact, I bankrupted me and my husband because I was so sick.
36:39
Kim: So, and then had to start all over because of the mold.
36:43
Kim: And so we were already at ground zero and now we're negative.
36:47
Kim: We we were below, we were below the worst you could get.
36:51
Kim: We had nothing now.
36:52
Kim: We had a car, which by the way, the day we pulled away, our check engine light came on.
36:57
Sam: Oh my gosh, the day you pulled away from the mold.
37:00
Sam: Yes.
37:01
Kim: The check engine light came on in our car.
37:04
Sam: It's like literally like when it rains, it pours.
37:06
Sam: Yes, it's so true.
37:07
Kim: Then when we were pulling out, we had this um the tree fall ran.
37:11
Kim: No, that was that year.
37:13
Kim: We had a random lady from the woods run out, and um, a puppy ran underneath our car, and Jeremy had to stop in the middle of the road from from the golf course to our log home, that long stretch where you can see all of the um power lines.
37:30
Kim: A lady was living in the woods with a bunch of puppies, and a puppy ran out and stopped underneath Jeremy's car.
37:36
Kim: And so we had to stop, and it was just it was like it was like a bunch of stuff was trying to like stop you from all the way to that mold hold, man.
37:45
Kim: All the way until we and then we got to the hotel and they wouldn't rent to me because I didn't book it right.
37:52
Kim: Oh, and so they said, We're sorry, you have to come back tomorrow.
37:56
Kim: I don't have anyone to override this.
37:58
Kim: And I was like, Well, I didn't have the money to get another.
38:00
Kim: Well, then the manager came out and just gave us the room that night and then gave us her employee discount for us to stay for the weekend.
38:09
Sam: Was this a bike?
38:10
Kim: It was that you got upgraded?
38:12
Kim: No, this wasn't no, that would that we that was another avoidance, yeah.
38:16
Kim: Yeah, that was a mold avoidance.
38:17
Kim: Yeah.
38:18
Kim: The universe has such a weird way of showing you.
38:21
Sam: You know what though?
38:22
Sam: Look at that though.
38:23
Sam: It like had you had tests and trials at the beginning of the trip and at the beginning of the journey to like test you how strong is your will to live and get out of here for real.
38:35
Sam: But then at the end, it rewarded you.
38:38
Sam: So it wasn't setting you up to like stop you or like that's not how life is set up.
38:42
Sam: It's not against you.
38:44
Sam: Yeah, the universe is not against you, it really is for you, but you just have to trust that.
38:49
Kim: And the trust is the hardest part, especially when you're running from mold, right?
38:54
Sam: And you're and it's all in there messing you up anyway.
38:57
Kim: I remember when I was slowly like detoxing from it.
39:00
Kim: Thank God for Dr.
39:01
Kim: Jess, because she really helped me navigate a lot of we didn't know about M blue, which is methylene blue, we didn't know about that, and we didn't know about the red light, and she was just talking about it.
39:14
Sam: So, what about methylene blue and red light?
39:16
Kim: Well, that has to help mold.
39:20
Sam: Get out of here.
39:21
Kim: So those together helps you heal.
39:23
Kim: Yeah.
39:23
Kim: And if you do methylene blue, right, okay, you take it and then you within 20 minutes do a red light, it activates it.
39:33
Sam: Ooh, so question if you don't have mold poisoning or whatever, can you do methylene blue with red light as preventative?
39:42
Sam: Yes.
39:42
Sam: And so then, like, you're like, oh, I'm flying to like Miami or the Bahamas or the Caymans or like somewhere super where you're here.
39:49
Sam: You can like do that to help make your body inhospitable for mold.
39:53
Sam: Yes.
39:54
Sam: Wow.
39:54
Kim: Because you're boosting your mitochondria.
39:55
Sam: Okay, what about the molde's kit?
39:57
Sam: The molde's kit's the best.
39:58
Sam: It can be preventative as well.
40:00
Sam: Yes.
40:00
Sam: Oh, so it's not only for people that are cleansing mold out.
40:05
Sam: Right.
40:05
Sam: People can take it to help make their bodies inhospitable for mold.
40:09
Kim: Yes.
40:09
Sam: Wow, this is breaking news.
40:11
Sam: I don't think we've ever said this in two and a half years of our podcast.
40:14
Kim: Yeah, because immune and recover are in there and it helps boost and chasandruberry helps boost mitochondria.
40:21
Kim: And so when you add, excuse me, when you add those herbs together, you're boosting your mitochondria, which acts like a repellent to the spores getting into the cells.
40:32
Kim: So you're just continuing to keep making that energy inside the cells, creating a friction.
40:38
Kim: So the spores don't want to be in it.
40:40
Kim: Interesting.
40:40
Kim: And that's why certain people can live in it.
40:42
Kim: They have like a warrior gene, or but certain people can be in it, but they're producing so much their mitochondria isn't depleted.
40:49
Kim: And then you get someone like me that was super chronically ill.
40:52
Kim: That's why Jeremy was able to live in it, even though he was outside.
40:56
Kim: He has a warrior gene.
40:56
Kim: And he had the yeah.
40:58
Kim: And he has a mask.
41:00
Kim: It's also because he produced a specific way and his body wasn't giving him the symptoms like it was giving me.
41:07
Sam: Interesting.
41:07
Kim: Yeah.
41:08
Kim: It's kind of a cool like if they break this down even more with environmental toxins like they should, they're gonna then see that it's they're all living together and they gotta break the biofilm.
41:18
Sam: Yeah, I was gonna ask you that earlier.
41:19
Sam: So I'm glad you said that.
41:21
Sam: Um, you said most people or a lot of people, when they leave mold, worms come out and parasites come out.
41:28
Sam: Why is that?
41:29
Sam: And like, I mean, we know they all live together and they vibrate on the same frequency, but like, what is that about?
41:34
Kim: Well, mold weakens your immune system so badly that you're gonna just attract like a magnet everything.
41:42
Kim: So when you have mold poisoning, a lot of times they're finding that people end up with Lyme.
41:48
Kim: Lyme is a bacteria, and so when you contract that bacteria, that's what Lyme creates.
41:53
Kim: We've just been indoctrinated to think that Lyme is only a tick, right?
41:57
Kim: That's how when someone thinks of Lyme, they think tick.
42:00
Kim: But it's a bacteria that's a sparakeet in your body and it's able to attack because the mold has weakened your immune system so bad.
42:09
Kim: I have a crazy question that the bacteria can take over.
42:12
Kim: And that's the same with parasites.
42:14
Kim: Does mold want to kill you?
42:16
Kim: Oh, a hundred percent.
42:18
Kim: It is making you think the darkest, deepest thoughts you could ever think.
42:23
Kim: I am not a person that would ever consider some of the things that while I was in the mold, I would consider, and you see darker entities.
42:34
Kim: I remember laying in bed and seeing weird dark entities in my trailer, and it was freaky.
42:42
Kim: It was like, oh, so I'm kind of hallucinating.
42:46
Kim: I would get zaps in my brain, I would feel so mentally unwell in times of the stress that I was having.
42:56
Kim: I didn't know if I could keep going.
42:59
Kim: And I had already been through one of the hardest things was parasites.
43:03
Kim: And I'm like, how is this?
43:05
Kim: I'm making and doing all these great things, but I really don't want to be around, and that was all because of the mold.
43:13
Kim: Yo, mold.
43:15
Kim: It causes divorces, it causes mental health issues.
43:20
Kim: This is why it's so important that they start realizing that mold is really this serious, that one out of two people, well, how many people have mental health disorders?
43:30
Kim: One out of two at least, yeah, because of the fact that divorce guarantee, you move out of that mold, you move out of the mold.
43:38
Kim: That's why Jeremy and I tested this rental.
43:40
Sam: Wait, wait, wait.
43:41
Kim: Because we were fighting, and I'm like, you think this place has mold?
43:44
Sam: Yeah.
43:44
Sam: Also, what's crazy about that, you know how like um couples like, you know, they go to couple therapy, and then like even there's been like studies and like different times where they give like couples psychedelics to like come back together.
43:56
Sam: I bet you if a couple that's considering divorce, If they tried cleansing together and getting environmental toxins out of their bodies, like getting parasites, worms, mold, heavy metals, bad bacteria, viruses, candida out of their bodies.
44:15
Sam: Yep.
44:16
Sam: I bet you that that would also save marriages.
44:20
Kim: Well, on our way out, when we were leaving the mold, because Jeremy had the mold hold.
44:26
Kim: On the way out, we fought so hard.
44:28
Kim: We fought so hard.
44:29
Sam: Because you were like, we're leaving.
44:30
Sam: And he's like, I don't want to.
44:32
Sam: Because the mold had a hold on to it.
44:34
Kim: Oh.
44:34
Kim: Like when we were packing the car, we kept getting in loud fights.
44:40
Kim: And we were we had to be outside.
44:42
Kim: I'm like, we were soaking our produce on a table.
44:45
Kim: We were homeless.
44:48
Kim: Like we had we couldn't go back in there.
44:51
Kim: We were not going back.
44:52
Kim: Jeremy had a respirator and full gowned bringing stuff out.
44:56
Kim: Because once we figured it out, we were like, we can't keep exposing ourselves.
45:00
Kim: Well, the bed bugs made us go back in and we had to expose ourselves.
45:03
Kim: And then both of us were like, we're way too sick.
45:05
Kim: And then we tried to sleep in the other side.
45:06
Kim: She's talking about bed bugs at a hotel they ran to.
45:08
Kim: Oh my god, the night I the the next so I found out we had mold poisoning.
45:13
Kim: I think it was like August 27th or something.
45:15
Kim: August 28th, we packed our crap and we left.
45:18
Kim: And we went to this one place there on the canal.
45:21
Kim: And oh, it would never have been one time it had been slept in.
45:25
Kim: The lady was like, We got this for the 2020, and like only one guy slept in here.
45:31
Kim: I go in, I lay down.
45:32
Kim: I'm exhausted.
45:34
Sam: And you're like, oh bed, it's like out of the hole.
45:38
Kim: Totally.
45:38
Kim: And all day laid there, cried.
45:41
Kim: It was so difficult.
45:42
Kim: Jeremy went back to work, left me down there, came back down.
45:47
Kim: I'm getting ready to make the bed to go to sleep.
45:49
Kim: It's like 11:30 at night.
45:51
Kim: And I decide to pull the pillow out of the pillowcase in a bed bug.
45:58
Kim: Just one.
45:59
Kim: Just one.
46:00
Kim: And I'm like, oh God, are you kidding me, really?
46:05
Kim: Like you knew for sure it was.
46:06
Kim: Oh I'll show you a picture.
46:08
Kim: I took a picture.
46:09
Kim: Of course you did.
46:10
Kim: Oh, of course.
46:11
Kim: I'm like, no.
46:12
Kim: Jeremy's mom had bed bugs and brought them to our house, but we didn't get them.
46:16
Kim: So I know what they look like.
46:18
Kim: Yes.
46:19
Kim: So I'm like, no, Jeremy, we gotta go.
46:23
Kim: And we had fought, right?
46:24
Kim: Because he left me down there, and I was like, I don't want to stay here by myself.
46:28
Kim: Why are you waiting?
46:30
Kim: You know, it was like everything was amplified to the max.
46:34
Kim: Yeah, the you feel the spores of the mold like this.
46:38
Kim: That's how your brain is, too.
46:40
Sam: Oh, just like it just like all day.
46:42
Sam: Rage, mold rage.
46:43
Kim: Rage on all rage, mold wired, you're but tired and foggy at the same time.
46:48
Kim: Yelly, screamy, confused.
46:50
Kim: Like seriously, I would like to know how many divorces happen because of health diagnosis.
46:57
Sam: Totally anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, and parasites.
47:02
Sam: Parasites.
47:02
Sam: But people have these environmental toxins that are affecting their mental and emotional health.
47:07
Sam: And they go to your regular psychiatrist, no shade, but like that's but like say the root is environmental toxins, and you go to a psychiatrist and they're just like, oh, here you go, take this.
47:20
Kim: And then you're heavy metal feeding them with the right weed.
47:22
Kim: Right, right, right, right.
47:23
Kim: And like, you know, and the thing is, is too, is when you have such extensive mold poisoning, the sheathing around your brain starts to have problem.
47:33
Kim: It's like a it's it like a layer, it's like a film.
47:36
Kim: Yeah, like a film.
47:37
Kim: Yeah, it's a protector, it's like uh fluid.
47:40
Kim: Uh okay, so you know like skims, how it's like that thin, and then it holds your body in that's what it does.
47:46
Sam: There the brain is in one of those?
47:47
Kim: Yeah, basically.
47:48
Sam: Oh, I think I've heard of this.
47:49
Sam: It's like a super thin, like the sap, or it's like a yeah, yeah.
47:53
Kim: So it can fracture, it can rip that.
47:55
Kim: It can, and I have that.
47:57
Kim: Oh and then, and so then you have a whole other sloop, and it all stems from mold.
48:02
Kim: Yeah, but see, this wasn't my only exposure in mold.
48:05
Kim: I know how far back my mold exposures go to when I was brought into mold and my parents, and we lived in a moldy house and wrapping didn't even know it.
48:14
Kim: Like looking back now, Tacoma is when my whole life slid down, was when I lived in Tacoma.
48:20
Kim: Yeah, I know I was in mold there because that's when I started to get real ill.
48:25
Kim: Wow.
48:25
Kim: So if all of a sudden you guys you wake up and you are not well and it happened pretty fast, and you can't, nothing can explain it.
48:34
Kim: You gotta go get tested for mold.
48:36
Kim: And this one you can get tested for.
48:37
Kim: Some insurance will pay for it, some insurance won't pay for it.
48:40
Kim: You can do mycotoxin tests with your urine because spores come out your urine.
48:45
Kim: Yeah.
48:45
Kim: So there are ways for you to test.
48:47
Kim: Yeah, I recommend you getting tested once a year if you've ever had it.
48:51
Kim: And also gotmold.com.
48:52
Kim: We really love got mold.
48:54
Sam: Yeah, I want to shout one out that I love that I use for my labs too.
48:57
Sam: Walk in labs.
48:58
Sam: Oh, they have sales every holiday and like big time sales.
49:02
Sam: And walkinlabs.com, if you go to if you go there, you choose your own, like you choose your own labs, like you pick out the test and how much they used to see how much each one costs right there.
49:11
Sam: Oh, that's and like you just pick them out and you can like um a la carte your own lab order with all these different ones, and there's and and you could do mold on there, and then because every holiday they have sales, you get a discount on it, and then you pay for it right there in walk-in labs, and then you choose where you want to go.
49:28
Sam: What quest, um, uh lab corp, and then you choose your location, and then it just gives you the form to print out, and you already paid for it.
49:37
Sam: So then you just make your appointment, that's great, walk into the lab, hand them your form, it's already paid for it.
49:41
Sam: So they just draw your blood and they send it in to get tested, and then in a couple days you check your walk-in labs portal online and it gives you your results.
49:49
Sam: That's great.
49:49
Sam: It's great.
49:50
Kim: Discount too.
49:51
Kim: That's nice.
49:51
Kim: Yeah, yeah.
49:52
Kim: You should go get tested.
49:54
Kim: Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're not having like any problems and you're like the healthiest person ever, but I mean, if you even have an inkling, like okay, so Jenny McCarthy, I don't really know her whole story.
50:06
Kim: She had mold poisoning, she had all these crazy symptoms.
50:09
Kim: She found out it was in her home.
50:11
Kim: She reached out with Dr.
50:12
Kim: Pompa, and they're they talk a lot of mold on their podcast.
50:16
Kim: She got a mold dog.
50:18
Kim: And like the mold dog can sniff it out.
50:20
Kim: The mold dog knows exactly where it's at, exactly what it's looking for.
50:24
Kim: I guess Dr.
50:25
Kim: Pompa was doing a mold shoot at his house with the mold dog, and the mold dog went upstairs and found his mold.
50:33
Kim: And he was doing a shoot, and he was like, I don't have mold in my house.
50:36
Kim: That mold dog went right upstairs and sat and he infected.
50:40
Kim: I mean, it's so fast.
50:41
Kim: It's so fast to get mold in your home when you have a leak and then it saturates everything.
50:48
Kim: We had a flood in one of our homes, and like, I mean, it'll saturate everything.
50:52
Kim: You don't dry it to the T.
50:54
Kim: It doesn't take but like hours for it to develop.
50:59
Kim: So, and then you how do you know?
51:01
Kim: Right?
51:01
Kim: You gotta drip from an air conditioning unit onto a piece of wood that's in your attic.
51:07
Kim: Yeah, you have a little leak.
51:08
Kim: That's what happened to us.
51:09
Kim: We had a little leak in the Tacoma house, yeah, and it spread all across.
51:13
Kim: You could see this rust that went down one of the um fireplaces, and that's mold.
51:21
Kim: And you would never guess it.
51:22
Kim: I thought it was rust.
51:23
Kim: No, it was mold.
51:25
Kim: Yeah.
51:26
Sam: Man, so wild.
51:28
Sam: I'm honestly so happy and and proud of you for making so much noise all the time.
51:34
Sam: But like, it's awesome.
51:36
Sam: Like, I'm honored to be a part of the movement of getting word the word out there.
51:40
Sam: There's a reason mold is trending right now, and everyone's making so much noise about it because so many people are affected.
51:45
Sam: And it's people now with platforms and voices, and they're now speaking out like you or RFK Jr.
51:51
Sam: And all these people are like, hey, like mold is real, parasites are real.
51:55
Sam: I mean, Heather John, what an angel.
51:57
Sam: Oh, yeah.
51:58
Sam: Heather, oh my god, we love you.
52:00
Sam: And she came on the podcast.
52:01
Sam: Um, yeah, it was great.
52:02
Sam: The episode will be coming out soon.
52:03
Sam: You guys will see that.
52:04
Sam: But even her, like her and her husband, Damon John, like they're making so much noise and they're speaking out about parasites and being aware of them.
52:12
Sam: Like, it's it's it's it's environmental toxin awareness.
52:15
Sam: Yes.
52:16
Sam: That's the mission we're on.
52:17
Sam: But then we also take it a step further and we come with solutions.
52:21
Sam: And Rogers Hood has so many.
52:24
Sam: And the beautiful thing about Rogers Hood products and kits is they're all all in one.
52:29
Sam: You don't need to buy all these miscellaneous things.
52:32
Sam: We run into people all the time.
52:33
Sam: We're just at a conference, and this woman is like, Oh, I got this antiparasitic, and I found this binder on Amazon, and I also got clove, but I don't know how to prepare it.
52:43
Sam: And it's like, you're getting all these different things from different places, and you're trying to figure it all out yourself.
52:48
Sam: Rogers had already done that for you.
52:50
Sam: I've already been to it.
52:50
Sam: They did that for you, babe.
52:52
Sam: Like, you don't have to do anything.
52:53
Sam: Like, you can literally just buy a kit that's all in one, has a binder in it, has the tinctures in it, and there is Perify Parasite Cleansing, Moldies Mold Kit, Lymph Wellness Kit for supporting and opening those drainage pathways.
53:05
Sam: There's metal blaster to target those heavy metals.
53:08
Sam: Very important to get those out as well.
53:09
Sam: But if you want any of the products that we've talked about, um any of the kits that we've talked about in this episode, if you're ready to cleanse, if you're ready to start cleansing, if you suspect you're in mold and you want to start eliminating and lowering your bucket and your toxic load to get some of it out to give you a little bit of that energy and brain power so that you can put together a plan to get out of there, um, head to rogers.com.
53:30
Sam: You can use our code what's eating you, what's eating in the letter U for 10% off.
53:34
Sam: Anytime we have a sale, though, you get even more percent off.
53:37
Sam: So pay attention to that.
53:38
Sam: Stay tapped in.
53:39
Sam: We have sales pretty often for you guys.
53:41
Sam: We love to make it affordable.
53:42
Kim: If you do get the moldies kit when we have red artists, red artist helps so much with the mold kit.
53:51
Sam: Yeah.
53:51
Kim: That I've done it both ways.
53:53
Kim: I've heard from so many customers that have said when they did it without the red artist, they just struggled.
54:01
Kim: And the moment they added that red artist, red artist is red-belted polypore for your nervous system, an artist conch for digestion.
54:09
Kim: And usually when you've got mold, you've usually got like an overgrowth of yeast.
54:13
Kim: So it helps the fermentation of the yeast inside of your gut.
54:16
Kim: But the red-belted polypore really gets in there.
54:19
Kim: It's white rishi.
54:20
Kim: Yeah, it really gets in there and just helps boost that nervous system because mold affects your nervous system worse than parasites, in my opinion.
54:28
Sam: Yeah, she said when we have it, because it's sold out quite a lot.
54:32
Sam: Um, but Red Artist is a tincture, it's a tincture that we absolutely love.
54:36
Sam: You can get it in the mushies kit, you can get it in um uh any supers.
54:40
Sam: Any super late.
54:41
Sam: Yeah, so it's basically when you right, right, that's right.
54:43
Sam: And you can get it by yourself um when it's in stock as well.
54:46
Sam: But yeah, guys, definitely be proactive.
54:49
Sam: Um, you don't have to have mold or be in a crisis or have mold poisoning to get started on helping make your body inhospitable because the truth is we're human beings who live on this planet earth and we're constantly coming into contact with environmental toxins.
55:01
Sam: And it's really important to be proactive about that.
55:05
Sam: Make your body inhospitable so that when you do come into contact, they don't take over and they don't take you over to try to take you out.
55:12
Sam: Because that is wild to me when you said that.
55:14
Sam: And um, yeah, just love being here to spread awareness.
55:18
Sam: And is there anything else, one other thing about mold you want to leave them with, or you think you covered it all?
55:22
Sam: Just be you were on a roll tonight, girl.
55:24
Kim: I was on a roll for the mold, man.
55:27
Kim: It's just really, it's a serious thing, and I'm just really grateful that it's being talked about.
55:33
Kim: I'm really happy that they're stepping in and thinking clearly for us and using their own personal experiences because I see that they've had, you know, they meaning certain people in the government, you know, that can make these laws and change the way that we view medicine.
55:52
Kim: It doesn't always have to just be Western medicine, it should just be medicine, you know.
55:56
Kim: So I I I applaud everyone that is a part of making this change.
56:03
Kim: And I do think that we're gonna see a lot more change soon.
56:08
Sam: Yeah, it's like a mold awareness movement.
56:10
Kim: Yeah, man.
56:11
Kim: Yeah, yeah.
56:12
Kim: The louder these celebrities get, I know that's crazy that they're great.
56:16
Sam: It's not but like it's been that way forever.
56:19
Kim: The louder they get and the more they use their voices, and the more they show this normalcy.
56:25
Kim: I mean, they live in like million-dollar homes.
56:27
Kim: Any home can get mold.
56:29
Sam: Uh, we've been in plenty of Airbnbs.
56:32
Sam: They're supposed to be so nice, and yeah, they're moldy.
56:34
Sam: So yeah, it's everywhere, is the point.
56:36
Sam: Yeah, and so whether you are just like minimal, minimally exposed or po like it's it's to the level of of mold poisoning.
56:45
Sam: Um, oh, cleanse, please.
56:47
Sam: Definitely cleanse, get them out, um, do your best to to avoid and just move through life educated and informed and empowered.
56:56
Sam: Know the solutions, and so don't ever feel hopeless or um defeated, and know that there are solutions, and we're here to help spread them and help share them with you.
57:05
Sam: So, really trusting that you took something away from this.
57:07
Sam: I thought this was an awesome tea time.
57:09
Sam: Tea time episode.
57:10
Sam: You know, we had to sit down and do a little one in Miami just to spill the tea, spill the tea on mold, and all right, pinky's up, girl.
57:19
Sam: She's been wanting to do this all night.
57:21
Sam: I'm like, all right, I'll do it for you, kids.
57:23
Sam: Okay.
57:23
Kim: Spilling the tea.
57:24
Sam: Thank you guys so much, and well said, Sam.
57:27
Sam: Thanks, man.
57:28
Sam: You too.
57:28
Sam: Um, you always inform and educate everybody so well.
57:31
Sam: So sometimes when she's on a roll, I'll just shut up and let her go.
57:35
Sam: But we love you guys.
57:36
Sam: Thank you for tuning in to another episode of What's In You, a special tea time episode.
57:39
Sam: We love spilling tea for you guys.
57:41
Sam: And until next time, please like and subscribe, drop a comment, question below, anything you want to know, and be well.
57:48
Sam: Be well.
57:49
Sam: Be well.
57:50
Kim: Bye.