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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, guys, thanks for checking in here for another
- 0:02Speaker 1: Rewind episode of Disgraceland. We're going back to our story
- 0:07Speaker 1: on Tom DeLonge from Blink-182 and his efforts around UFO
- 0:12Speaker 1: slash UAP disclosure. We originally released this story back on
- 0:16Speaker 1: January 28th, 2025. A lot has gone down since then. Okay,
- 0:22Speaker 1: there's been a lot of stories in the news about
- 0:24Speaker 1: disclosure around this very topic. I would argue we've seen
- 0:28Speaker 1: more disclosure. There's been a pretty incredible... documentary that came
- 0:31Speaker 1: out called The Age of Disclosure. There was a Steven
- 0:33Speaker 1: Spielberg movie. And I think everything we've seen since we've
- 0:37Speaker 1: released this episode now, granted, there's been a lot of noise,
- 0:40Speaker 1: but I think on balance, everything we've seen has strengthened
- 0:44Speaker 1: the case this episode makes about Tom DeLonge from Blink-182.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Here it is. Check it out. If you heard it
- 0:51Speaker 1: back then, listen to it again with fresh ears based
- 0:53Speaker 1: on the news that's broken over the last Let's see,
- 0:56Speaker 1: almost two years since this was released. And if you've
- 0:59Speaker 1: never heard it before, sit back, relax, and enjoy this
- 1:02Speaker 1: classic episode of Disgraceland. Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis.
- 1:17Speaker 1: This is a story about Blink-182, which means it's also
- 1:21Speaker 1: a story about dick jokes, about running through the streets
- 1:24Speaker 1: of Los Angeles naked, and about simple, infectious, juvenile pop punk.
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's also a story about the truth, about what the
- 1:33Speaker 1: government does and does not want us to talk about,
- 1:37Speaker 1: or even to think about. It's about a plane crash,
- 1:41Speaker 1: a cancer diagnosis, and about a snot-nosed punk from Southern
- 1:45Speaker 1: California who was expelled from high school, but would eventually
- 1:49Speaker 1: find himself taking meetings with White House personnel. A snot-nosed
- 1:54Speaker 1: punk who, in his band, Blink-182 made great music. Unlike
- 2:01Speaker 1: that music I played for you at the top of
- 2:02Speaker 1: the show. That wasn't great music. That was a preset
- 2:07Speaker 1: loop from my Mellotron called Husker Du's Books About UFOs MK1.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I played you that loop because I can't afford the
- 2:17Speaker 1: rights to blinding lights by the weekend. And why would
- 2:21Speaker 1: I play you that specific slice of 80s time machine cheese,
- 2:26Speaker 1: could I afford it? Because that was the number one
- 2:30Speaker 1: song in America on April 27th, 2020. And that was
- 2:36Speaker 1: the day that the Department of Defense did something it
- 2:38Speaker 1: had never done before. Disclosed information to the public regarding
- 2:43Speaker 1: the likely existence of life from beyond this planet and
- 2:46Speaker 1: or this dimension. On this episode, dick jokes, government lies,
- 2:54Speaker 1: Aliens Exist and Blink-182. I'm Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Aliens exist. But don't take my word for it, or
- 3:41Speaker 1: anybody's word for it, for that matter. Look at the evidence.
- 3:45Speaker 1: The federal government's actions, to be exact. Look at the
- 3:49Speaker 1: front page of the New York Times, where it was
- 3:51Speaker 1: reported in 2020 that U.S. intelligence agencies had established a
- 3:56Speaker 1: program called the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force to, quote,
- 4:02Speaker 1: standardized collection and reporting of sightings of unexplained aerial vehicles, unquote.
- 4:10Speaker 1: On the Times website and across the internet, you can
- 4:13Speaker 1: find videos of these so-called unexplained aerial vehicles captured by
- 4:18Speaker 1: naval pilots. Videos of aircraft moving in unearthly ways that
- 4:23Speaker 1: defy physics. Video footage the Times calls mystifying. If you
- 4:29Speaker 1: dig an inch deeper... you'll quickly learn about the legitimacy
- 4:33Speaker 1: of these videos. You'll find countless military personnel from the
- 4:37Speaker 1: last 75 years, many highly decorated, many who put their
- 4:42Speaker 1: credibility on the line, credibility they spent their entire careers building,
- 4:47Speaker 1: detailing the very real experiences with similar logic-defying aircraft that
- 4:53Speaker 1: will lead you to only one possible explanation. Aliens exist.
- 5:01Speaker 1: They're real. You know what else is real? What the
- 5:04Speaker 1: government does and does not want us to think. Up
- 5:08Speaker 1: until about seven years ago, it was very evident that
- 5:11Speaker 1: the government did not want us to think that aliens
- 5:14Speaker 1: did indeed exist or that they were real. No, that
- 5:17Speaker 1: type of thinking was wrong. It was wrong think. Very,
- 5:19Speaker 1: very bad. That thinking was for crackpots who spent a
- 5:22Speaker 1: little too much time believing the headlines they read in
- 5:25Speaker 1: the supermarket checkout line. And there was a time back
- 5:28Speaker 1: in the 20th century when the government didn't want us
- 5:31Speaker 1: thinking or speaking about much more than God, country, and family.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And this has all changed, of course. The government doesn't
- 5:38Speaker 1: care too much these days about God, country, and family.
- 5:40Speaker 1: But back in 1966, if you used the wrong type
- 5:44Speaker 1: of language, language that, of course, encouraged subversive thinking, if
- 5:49Speaker 1: you demonstrated wrong think by using the wrong language in public,
- 5:54Speaker 1: you'd go to jail. Ask comedian Lenny Bruce, who was
- 5:58Speaker 1: arrested for saying nine specific words. Ass, balls, cocksucker, cunt, fuck, motherfucker,
- 6:04Speaker 1: piss shit, and tits. Then, six years later in 1972,
- 6:10Speaker 1: comedian George Carlin had this to say about it.
- 6:13Speaker 2: In poor taste, unseemly, street talk, gutter talk, locker room language,
- 6:19Speaker 2: barracks talk, bawdy, naughty, saucy, raunchy, crude, lewd, lascivious, indecent, profane, obscene, blue, off-color, risque, suggestive, cursing, cussing, swearing,
- 6:39Speaker 2: and all I could think of was shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker,
- 6:41Speaker 2: and tits.
- 6:45Speaker 1: That bit from Carlin's 1972 album Class Clown was played
- 6:49Speaker 1: on WBAI radio in New York in 1973. A complaint
- 6:54Speaker 1: was filed against the radio station and the Federal Communications Commission,
- 6:57Speaker 1: the FCC, issued a declaration backing the complaint, holding the
- 7:02Speaker 1: radio station accountable. The complaint was filed in court, and
- 7:06Speaker 1: it went all the way to the Supreme Court, where
- 7:08Speaker 1: it was found that, yes, under no circumstance does the
- 7:12Speaker 1: government want you to say the words ass, balls, cocksucker, cunt, fuck, motherfucker, piss, shit,
- 7:17Speaker 1: and tits on its airwaves. Count the snotty Southern California
- 7:21Speaker 1: pop-punk band Blink-182 among the innumerable counterculture subversives who didn't
- 7:27Speaker 1: get the Supreme Court's memo. That's Blink-182's live staple, Family Reunion,
- 7:49Speaker 1: which is essentially George Carlin's seven words you can never
- 7:52Speaker 1: say on television routine set to music. The boys and
- 7:56Speaker 1: Blink added fart, turd, and twat for good measure. And
- 8:00Speaker 1: that song was released as a promotional single in 1999. Now,
- 8:04Speaker 1: there's no telling whether or not those lyrics were swimming
- 8:07Speaker 1: through Blink-182 guitarist and co-singer-songwriter Tom DeLonge's head back in
- 8:12Speaker 1: 1995 while he sat handcuffed in the back of a Jacksonville,
- 8:15Speaker 1: Florida police cruiser, busted for wandering the streets of Jacksonville
- 8:20Speaker 1: drunk and carrying an open container while on the group's
- 8:23Speaker 1: first real tour, Tom was in for a long night
- 8:27Speaker 1: in jail. A night where Tom's imagination would see him through.
- 8:34Speaker 1: It was always Tom's ability to dream that delivered him
- 8:37Speaker 1: through the tough times. Through the monotony of a bored
- 8:40Speaker 1: suburban teenage existence. Through the bleakness of a grown-up prescribed
- 8:45Speaker 1: adult future in a cubicle or on a construction site.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Through his parents splitting up. through getting expelled from high school.
- 8:53Speaker 1: They could tell him there was no future, but they
- 8:56Speaker 1: couldn't make him believe it. The local library back in Poway, California,
- 9:01Speaker 1: gave his dreams wings. Books about UFOs and the Kennedy assassination.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Punk Rock gave him the audacity he needed to question authority. Chin,
- 9:13Speaker 1: Have You Seen Him? Charlie Don't Serve? California Uberalice? All
- 9:18Speaker 1: of the subversiveness that was at the core of the
- 9:21Speaker 1: West Coast punk ethos that Tom DeLonge raised himself on
- 9:25Speaker 1: made it very easy for him to call bullshit on
- 9:28Speaker 1: the official government narratives aimed at explaining away the topics
- 9:32Speaker 1: he obsessed over in his local library. The U.S. Air
- 9:36Speaker 1: Force's Roswell report on the 1947 New Mexico UFO crash
- 9:41Speaker 1: and the report from the trumped-up Warren Commission on the
- 9:44Speaker 1: assassination of John F. Kennedy. Police. You ought to be
- 9:48Speaker 1: a mindless automaton to accept these explanations as anything more
- 9:52Speaker 1: than what they obviously were. Lies from a government hell-bent
- 9:57Speaker 1: on bending the public's perception of the truth. On that
- 9:50Speaker 1: first Blink-182 tour back in 1995, Tom's bandmates, bassist and
- 9:52Speaker 1: fellow singer-songwriter Mark Hoppus, and original drummer Scott Rayner, no
- 9:56Speaker 1: doubt had no idea what to think as they drove
- 9:57Speaker 1: through Dallas' Dealey Plaza, the site of President Kennedy's assassination
- 10:20Speaker 1: 32 years earlier, and listened to their bandmate Tom go
- 10:25Speaker 1: on and on over his theory that Kennedy was shot
- 10:28Speaker 1: because he had learned the truth about aliens, and that
- 10:30Speaker 1: JFK was going to disclose to the American public evidence
- 10:34Speaker 1: proving aliens exist. In 1995, this type of thinking seemed hysterical,
- 10:41Speaker 1: but to Tom DeLonge, this type of thinking was essential.
- 10:47Speaker 1: after bouncing from that Jacksonville jail with a slap on
- 10:50Speaker 1: the wrist, after taking in a rocket launch in nearby
- 10:53Speaker 1: Cape Canaveral, after wrapping a successful first tour in 95,
- 10:57Speaker 1: after breaking through on the 1996 Warped Tour and capitalizing
- 11:01Speaker 1: on a major label bidding war, after signing with MCA
- 11:05Speaker 1: Records and releasing an album that went gold, after parting
- 11:08Speaker 1: ways with their original drummer and replacing him with the
- 11:11Speaker 1: percussive juggernaut that is Travis Barker, After casting Alyssa freaking
- 11:15Speaker 1: Milano in their music video and downgrading America's collective maturity
- 11:20Speaker 1: level a couple notches with songs about shitting your pants
- 11:23Speaker 1: and getting laid, this type of thinking, this hysterical wrong-think,
- 11:28Speaker 1: was absolutely driving Tom DeLonge to write the lyrics for
- 11:33Speaker 1: Blink-182's song, Aliens exist. A song that nearly everyone laughed
- 11:39Speaker 1: off as just another example of Blink-182's staggering level of immaturity.
- 11:44Speaker 1: A song with a sentiment that would one day compel
- 11:47Speaker 1: the United States government to take Tom DeLonge as nothing
- 11:52Speaker 1: less than dead serious. The United States government lets you
- 12:21Speaker 1: get away with a lot of things. For instance, you
- 12:23Speaker 1: can wake up one morning and walk into your recording
- 12:26Speaker 1: studio and rant into the microphone about what a bunch
- 12:29Speaker 1: of duplicitous controlling autocrats the government is made up of,
- 12:32Speaker 1: and depending on the size of your microphone, you can
- 12:34Speaker 1: pretty much get away with it as I am right now.
- 12:38Speaker 1: What you can't get away with is not forking over
- 12:41Speaker 1: to the government its piece, its take. And if you
- 12:45Speaker 1: don't pay the government the taxes it demands... a massive
- 12:48Speaker 1: percentage of which is exorbitant and unnecessary, the government will
- 12:52Speaker 1: apply a vig to the principal amount you owe, which will,
- 12:55Speaker 1: in turn, make your debt nearly impossible to pay off.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Does this sound familiar to you? It sounds to me
- 13:02Speaker 1: like the mafia. It's the same tactic gangsters have used
- 13:06Speaker 1: for years in their Shylock businesses. Perry Farrell of Jane's
- 13:10Speaker 1: Addiction once said, quote, the gang and the government are
- 13:14Speaker 1: no different. And he wasn't wrong. not in principle. The
- 13:18Speaker 1: federal government is, of course, more evolved and more sophisticated
- 13:22Speaker 1: than the mafia. If, say, you're a porn star and
- 13:26Speaker 1: you owe, oh, I don't know, $ 300, 000 in back taxes,
- 13:30Speaker 1: now you know full well, as we all do, that
- 13:32Speaker 1: you should have paid those taxes. Making tax payments is
- 13:36Speaker 1: not a new concept, but it's easy to see how entertainers, athletes,
- 13:41Speaker 1: and those in the workforce who aren't accustomed to coming
- 13:43Speaker 1: into massive cash windfall's fail to make payments. You get
- 13:48Speaker 1: paid $ 600, 000 for a couple of skin flicks, and all
- 13:51Speaker 1: of a sudden you have to fork over 50% to
- 13:53Speaker 1: the feds. Now, for a porn star, that's hard to swallow. Sorry,
- 13:58Speaker 1: I couldn't resist. This is, after all, still a Blink-182 episode,
- 14:01Speaker 1: even though I'm talking about tax rates at the moment.
- 14:03Speaker 1: But I promise this is going somewhere relevant. So anyway,
- 14:06Speaker 1: you're a porn star who owes $ 300, 000 in taxes. Now,
- 14:10Speaker 1: the government isn't going to act like the mafia and
- 14:12Speaker 1: blow up your place of business with a pipe bomb.
- 14:15Speaker 1: But it is going to send agents to your house
- 14:17Speaker 1: and those fancy windbreakers at an ungodly early morning hour,
- 14:21Speaker 1: raid your place, take you away in handcuffs, and throw
- 14:24Speaker 1: you in a federal prison. And that's what happened to
- 14:27Speaker 1: Janine Lindemulder in 2009. And despite the fact that she'd
- 14:32Speaker 1: starred in a Blink-182 video 10 years earlier, there was
- 14:36Speaker 1: nothing she could do about it. Janine was going to jail. Because,
- 14:41Speaker 1: as Tom DeLonge would soon find out, the federal government
- 14:45Speaker 1: does not fuck around. But back in 1999, Janine had
- 14:51Speaker 1: no way of knowing that. She had other things on
- 14:54Speaker 1: her mind, like the three skinny naked punk rock dudes
- 14:57Speaker 1: ogling her on a Los Angeles street corner while the
- 14:59Speaker 1: cameras rolled. This was a different camera crew than Janine
- 15:04Speaker 1: was used to. This wasn't a Valley production. This was
- 15:08Speaker 1: more Hollywood. The boys in the band were nice enough
- 15:11Speaker 1: and funny, despite being wickedly horny. Janine saw real quick
- 15:16Speaker 1: that the boys in Blink were about to learn the
- 15:18Speaker 1: hard truth about a skin flick production, and that's that
- 15:21Speaker 1: being naked in front of scores of people in broad daylight,
- 15:25Speaker 1: it might be funny or sexy when the finished edit
- 15:27Speaker 1: hits screens, but while you're making the thing, being naked
- 15:31Speaker 1: on set sucks. Sure, you look all daring and cool
- 15:35Speaker 1: running through the streets of Hollywood filming your new video
- 15:37Speaker 1: for your incredibly catchy song, What's My Age Again? But
- 15:41Speaker 1: then once they call cut, You're just a schmuck in
- 15:43Speaker 1: a skin-colored Speedo and nothing else on, standing on the
- 15:46Speaker 1: side of West 3rd in L.A. while dudes in Jeep
- 15:49Speaker 1: Cherokees drive by and give you the finger and launch
- 15:52Speaker 1: homophobic slurs at you. Janine, of course, thought it was hysterical.
- 15:57Speaker 1: So did the rest of America. The video, that is,
- 16:00Speaker 1: not the homophobic cutdowns. What's My Age Again was a
- 16:04Speaker 1: massive hit, both as a video and a single, propelling
- 16:08Speaker 1: Blink-182's newest album at the time, Enema of the State,
- 16:12Speaker 1: to sell 15 million copies, probably more by now. Enema
- 16:19Speaker 1: of the State also featured the song Aliens Exist, with
- 16:23Speaker 1: the lyrics, Hey mom, there's something in the back room.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Hope it's not the creature from above. You used to
- 16:30Speaker 1: read me stories as if my dreams were boring. We
- 16:33Speaker 1: all know conspiracies are dumb. And what if people knew
- 16:36Speaker 1: that these were real? I'd leave my closet door open
- 16:40Speaker 1: all night. I know what the CIA would say. What
- 16:43Speaker 1: you hear is all hearsay. I wish someone would tell
- 16:46Speaker 1: me what was right. Tom DeLonge, who wrote those lyrics, though,
- 16:51Speaker 1: was wrong about the CIA. Someone was, in fact, about
- 16:55Speaker 1: to tell him what exactly was right. Enema of the
- 17:01Speaker 1: State turned Blink-182 into a household name. Their next album,
- 17:06Speaker 1: featuring another trademark juvenile Blink title, Take Off Your Pants
- 17:09Speaker 1: and Jacket, was also a hit. They followed that up
- 17:13Speaker 1: with a self-titled full-length in 2003. After that effort, the
- 17:17Speaker 1: band entered a phase that is treacherous ground for any
- 17:20Speaker 1: group of self-respecting rock stars, adulthood. Life changed for Tom DeLonge,
- 17:26Speaker 1: Mark Hoppus, and Travis Barker. In 2005, Tom quit the
- 17:31Speaker 1: band to be with his family. In 2008, Travis Barker
- 17:35Speaker 1: was in a private plane crash in which six people died.
- 17:38Speaker 1: He was severely injured along with his friends, a musical
- 17:41Speaker 1: collaborator in his group, Travis DJ AM, Adam Goldstein, a.k.a.
- 17:46Speaker 1: DJ AM, who was driven back into addiction after the
- 17:50Speaker 1: crash and the trauma of it all. He overdosed and
- 17:53Speaker 1: died in 2009. And the extremely traumatic event nearly drove
- 17:58Speaker 1: Travis to suicide. But ultimately, he recovered both physically and
- 18:02Speaker 1: mentally from the horrible experience. In 2009, Tom DeLonge rejoined
- 18:08Speaker 1: Blink-182 And the group embarked on another chapter, touring and
- 18:13Speaker 1: releasing the full-length album Neighborhoods. The album was well-received critically.
- 18:18Speaker 1: It was a progression from their more youthful efforts, but
- 18:21Speaker 1: was that necessarily a good thing? In the end, the
- 18:25Speaker 1: album failed to set the world on fire. And throughout
- 18:28Speaker 1: the early aughts, and after reuniting with Blink-182, Tom DeLonge
- 18:32Speaker 1: recorded and toured with a side project known as Angels
- 18:35Speaker 1: and Airwaves. And then, in 2014... Tom DeLonge took a
- 18:41Speaker 1: trip out to the desert. Area 51. Death Valley. Tom
- 18:50Speaker 1: awoke in his tent. The voices outside in the desert
- 18:54Speaker 1: were too many to count. Too many to comprehend. They
- 18:58Speaker 1: woke him up. They weren't human. His fellow campers, one
- 19:03Speaker 1: of whom was a prominent ufologist, slept soundly in their tents.
- 19:08Speaker 1: These sounds were Unearthly, but still strangely familiar. Murmuring. Whispering.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Tom could hardly understand them. He could scarcely hold on
- 19:19Speaker 1: to his awareness of them over the sound of his
- 19:21Speaker 1: steadily beating heart, which was now pounding. Those voices, whatever
- 19:27Speaker 1: they were, wherever they came from, were there. Right there.
- 19:31Speaker 1: At the edge of perception. But the words themselves were
- 19:36Speaker 1: impossible to comprehend. and whatever message was meant to be
- 19:39Speaker 1: translated fell short. Tom couldn't grasp it. It floated away.
- 19:47Speaker 1: He was awake now, but he wasn't conscious. so he
- 19:51Speaker 1: couldn't possibly understand. The beings, whether they were extraterrestrials from
- 19:56Speaker 1: worlds far away or extraterrestrials from uncharted dimensions here in
- 20:01Speaker 1: this world, whether they were angels or demons or whatever
- 20:05Speaker 1: they were, Tom was told they communicate through consciousness. They
- 20:10Speaker 1: speak to us through high consciousness. They compel us. In
- 20:15Speaker 1: those moments when our minds disassociate from this world, when
- 20:19Speaker 1: we unplug, when we simply are, when we dream, when
- 20:24Speaker 1: we pray, perhaps when we ingest psychedelics, however we get there,
- 20:29Speaker 1: it's that point when all of our thoughts, actions, and
- 20:32Speaker 1: emotions are objectifiable. When we separate from the subjective and
- 20:37Speaker 1: become conscious, that's when their whispers, their murmurs, manifest into
- 20:44Speaker 1: messages that permeate our own thoughts. Perhaps even their messages
- 20:48Speaker 1: present to us as our own thoughts. Perhaps our ideas are,
- 20:52Speaker 1: on some quantum level, not ideas at all, but rather
- 20:56Speaker 1: the aliens themselves being born out of our own consciousness,
- 21:00Speaker 1: pulling us into a higher strangeness and moving us closer
- 21:04Speaker 1: toward a greater universal understanding. But alone, awake, and afraid
- 21:12Speaker 1: in a tent in the middle of the desert? Consciousness
- 21:15Speaker 1: is unattainable. And therefore, so is extra or ultra-terrestrial communication.
- 21:23Speaker 1: So Tom was out. But Tom was also in. Whatever
- 21:28Speaker 1: he did or did not understand out in the desert
- 21:30Speaker 1: on that night in 2014... was enough to compel him
- 21:33Speaker 1: to dedicate his life to learning more and demanding that
- 21:37Speaker 1: the powers that be share with the American public what
- 21:40Speaker 1: they did or did not know. And Tom DeLonge knew
- 21:43Speaker 1: enough to know that the U.S. government knew a lot
- 21:46Speaker 1: more about beings from other worlds and or other dimensions
- 21:49Speaker 1: than they were letting on. In short order, in 2015,
- 21:54Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge would quit Blink-182, one of the planet's biggest
- 21:58Speaker 1: rock and roll bands, to go chase UFOs We'll be
- 22:06Speaker 1: right back after this word, word, word. Blink-182's Tom DeLonge
- 22:16Speaker 1: describes alien encounter, says authorities tapped his phone. Tom DeLonge
- 22:21Speaker 1: just proved he's gone completely insane during alien rant. I'm
- 22:25Speaker 1: not going to say Tom DeLonge is batshit crazy, but
- 22:29Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge wants you to stop calling him crazy for
- 22:32Speaker 1: researching aliens. And that's a smattering of what the media
- 22:36Speaker 1: had to say about Tom DeLonge's efforts to investigate the
- 22:39Speaker 1: legitimacy of alien existence after departing Blink-182. The rock and
- 22:45Speaker 1: roll press was predictably the most snarky and also the
- 22:48Speaker 1: most disingenuous. Consequence of Sound elaborated on their claims that
- 22:53Speaker 1: Tom had gone crazy, adding this to their cheap hit
- 22:56Speaker 1: piece on him. Quote, former Blink-182 member implies he met
- 23:00Speaker 1: with Bill Clinton to discuss the threat of UFOs. when
- 23:04Speaker 1: in fact Tom did not imply he was meeting with
- 23:07Speaker 1: Bill Clinton. That was a presumption the so-called journalist from
- 23:11Speaker 1: Consequence cooked up entirely on his own to make Tom
- 23:14Speaker 1: look crazy, based on a photo of a meeting Tom
- 23:17Speaker 1: posted to Instagram and then deleted. So... Is now a
- 23:22Speaker 1: good time to mention the fact that the CIA has
- 23:24Speaker 1: had journalists planted in the media since the 1960s as
- 23:28Speaker 1: part of their secret Operation Mockingbird to help shape various
- 23:31Speaker 1: narratives to fit the government's view of what it wants
- 23:34Speaker 1: the public to think? Perhaps. But perhaps that's a digression
- 23:38Speaker 1: that'll derail this story. And maybe you guys can go
- 23:41Speaker 1: ahead and look that one up for yourself, though. Operation Mockingbird.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Back to Tondalong. Remember earlier when I said the government
- 23:49Speaker 1: doesn't fuck around? Here's what I meant. The stakes for
- 23:55Speaker 1: the meeting couldn't have been higher. Tom used a mix
- 23:59Speaker 1: of his celebrity and astute politicking to set it up.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Himself and a federal government aerospace contractor. It is unconfirmed,
- 24:07Speaker 1: but it is widely believed that the contractor was Lockheed
- 24:10Speaker 1: Martin and their special division, Skunk Works. The meeting was
- 24:15Speaker 1: heavily secured. Four layers of security. armed guards, and white
- 24:20Speaker 1: noise pumping through speakers to scramble any listening devices inside
- 24:24Speaker 1: the dark, windowless room. Tom was prepared. He had the
- 24:29Speaker 1: audience he had been building toward for some time now.
- 24:32Speaker 1: He had a message to deliver. He had a reaction
- 24:34Speaker 1: to elicit. This was, in some really strange way, no
- 24:39Speaker 1: different than being on stage. This was a performance like
- 24:43Speaker 1: any other. Tom explained that the work done by the government,
- 24:47Speaker 1: the military, and their contractors on UFO phenomena was worthy
- 24:51Speaker 1: of disclosure, and that the proper way to disclose this
- 24:54Speaker 1: information to the youth was through culture, through books, through comics,
- 24:59Speaker 1: through records, through films. Tom wanted to combine a celebrity
- 25:03Speaker 1: and authentic connection to the youth with the vast knowledge
- 25:06Speaker 1: of the UFO phenomena he had attained over the years.
- 25:10Speaker 1: One of the contractors scoffed. essentially told Tom he was
- 25:14Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist wasting his time, and he abruptly left
- 25:17Speaker 1: the room. The other contractors followed him. All but one.
- 25:22Speaker 1: All but the lead contractor, who sat back and listened
- 25:26Speaker 1: to more of Tom's pitch. The government and its contractors
- 25:31Speaker 1: were doing great work in this area. Why did it
- 25:34Speaker 1: all have to be so secret? There was so much
- 25:36Speaker 1: evidence that it was obvious what the truth was. Eventually,
- 25:40Speaker 1: that truth was going to come out. And then what?
- 25:43Speaker 1: What kind of effect would the shocking truth about alien
- 25:45Speaker 1: existence here on Earth have on the American public? Could
- 25:49Speaker 1: anything be more disruptive to humanity, more life-altering, than the
- 25:54Speaker 1: realization that we are not alone in the universe? What
- 25:58Speaker 1: would this knowledge do to humanity? It would no doubt
- 26:02Speaker 1: have a life-altering influence on our core beliefs as a species.
- 26:06Speaker 1: on our thoughts about our place and point in this world,
- 26:09Speaker 1: about God, about the devil, about good and evil. It
- 26:13Speaker 1: was knowledge, secret knowledge, that had to be handled and
- 26:17Speaker 1: disclosed very cautiously. When Tom finished, the government contractor, to
- 26:23Speaker 1: Tom's amazement, agreed that slowed disclosure of the UFO phenomenon
- 26:28Speaker 1: via culture, rather than exclusively through traditional media, could responsibly
- 26:33Speaker 1: bring the public around to the mind-bending notion that yes,
- 26:37Speaker 1: aliens exist. This is the part of the story where
- 26:42Speaker 1: you call bullshit and I don't blame you. Why would
- 26:45Speaker 1: a federal defense contractor or anyone connected with the federal
- 26:48Speaker 1: government entrust a foul-mouthed punk rocker from a band with
- 26:51Speaker 1: a nonsensical name like Blink-182 with disclosing humanity-altering information to
- 26:57Speaker 1: the public? Well, because this is what the government has
- 27:01Speaker 1: always done used cutouts from culture. Individuals from the world
- 27:07Speaker 1: of arts and entertainment. Actors, musicians, artists. The government has
- 27:12Speaker 1: relied on these individuals of influence for the better part
- 27:14Speaker 1: of a century to get its message to the American people.
- 27:20Speaker 1: In 1954, the CIA secretly funded the film adaptation of
- 27:24Speaker 1: George Orwell's Animal Farm and its efforts to win hearts
- 27:27Speaker 1: and minds during the Cold War against communist Russia. To
- 27:31Speaker 1: further its winning efforts in the Cold War, the CIA
- 27:34Speaker 1: secretly bolstered the careers of abstract expressionist painters Mark Rothko
- 27:38Speaker 1: and Jackson Pollock. These artists were unaware of the strings
- 27:42Speaker 1: the CIA pulled on their behalf to promote them, but
- 27:44Speaker 1: the government's message was sent, and it was this. In America,
- 27:49Speaker 1: our artists thrive. In the Soviet Union, artists are thrown
- 27:54Speaker 1: in prison. As recently as 2013, the CIA demanded and
- 27:59Speaker 1: received script approval for the television series The Americans. You know,
- 28:04Speaker 1: all that long-winded expositional dialogue blathering on and on about
- 28:08Speaker 1: UN regulations in the movie Iron Man? Guess who had
- 28:11Speaker 1: a production agreement in their dirty hands all over the
- 28:13Speaker 1: script for that film? The CIA. So, the federal contractor
- 28:20Speaker 1: agreed to help Tom and connected him with an unnamed
- 28:23Speaker 1: general who confirmed Tom's belief in UFO phenomena and agreed
- 28:28Speaker 1: that the time was now for disclosure. Perhaps the general's
- 28:32Speaker 1: thoughts around timing had something to do with the hundreds
- 28:35Speaker 1: of unidentified aerial phenomena being captured on video by the U.S.
- 28:39Speaker 1: military personnel at that exact point in time. The news
- 28:45Speaker 1: was coming out. UFOs were no longer relegated to the
- 28:49Speaker 1: tabloids lining your supermarket checkout. They were being discussed and
- 28:53Speaker 1: shown everywhere. on the front page of the New York Times,
- 28:56Speaker 1: and on the nightly news. The dam was breaking. The
- 29:02Speaker 1: general agreed to connect Tom with experts from the intelligence community,
- 29:05Speaker 1: from aerospace, and even an expert from the White House,
- 29:09Speaker 1: all to advise Tom DeLonge from Blink-frickin-182 on how to
- 29:14Speaker 1: take the information he had gathered on his own thus
- 29:16Speaker 1: far and disclose the fact that aliens exist. With these
- 29:21Speaker 1: new contacts, Tom then pulled together a formal group of advisors,
- 29:26Speaker 1: heavy hitters, ex-CIA operatives, NASA and DOD advisors, White House staff,
- 29:31Speaker 1: and private sector AI contractors, and gathered them into a
- 29:34Speaker 1: new company he called To The Stars. Its mission? To
- 29:39Speaker 1: create culture to help disclose the truth about UFOs. Predictably,
- 29:45Speaker 1: the press pounced, doubling down its ire on Tom for
- 29:49Speaker 1: quitting a beloved punk rock band to waste time trying
- 29:52Speaker 1: to validate quote-unquote conspiracy theories. The media was particularly incensed
- 29:57Speaker 1: with Tom's intimation that he was working with government operatives
- 30:01Speaker 1: connected to the White House. This seemed to be the
- 30:04Speaker 1: height of delusion. Tom was scorched across the Internet, doubted, defamed,
- 30:10Speaker 1: disgraced by everyone from faceless, cowardly Internet trolls to the
- 30:14Speaker 1: likes of Vice magazine, which issued a factually incorrect expose
- 30:18Speaker 1: on Tom's company's financial stability, which... coming from the bankrupt
- 30:23Speaker 1: vice is, as we now know, the height of irony.
- 30:27Speaker 1: And then, something remarkable happened. So what exactly was in
- 30:34Speaker 1: that WikiLeaks dump of DNC emails besides proof that the
- 30:38Speaker 1: Democratic Party attempted to subvert the campaign of one of
- 30:41Speaker 1: its candidates, Bernie Sanders, and coronate the party's chosen candidate,
- 30:45Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton? There were numerous emails between Tom DeLonge and
- 30:50Speaker 1: John Podesta, official counselor to the President of the United States,
- 30:54Speaker 1: Barack Obama, and the presidential campaign manager at the time
- 30:58Speaker 1: to the former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, and one-time
- 31:01Speaker 1: Deputy Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton. The emails
- 31:06Speaker 1: detailed Tom's disclosure plan with Podesta, who became a public
- 31:10Speaker 1: advocate for UFO disclosure upon leaving the White House. And
- 31:14Speaker 1: the emails also detailed an in-person meeting between Tom and
- 31:18Speaker 1: Podesta and other high-level government and military operatives. All of
- 31:23Speaker 1: a sudden, the dick-joke-cracking UFO-chasing guitar player from Blink-182 didn't
- 31:29Speaker 1: look so crazy. And Tom doubled down. In 2017, one
- 31:36Speaker 1: of his official To The Stars advisors, Lou Elizondo, who
- 31:39Speaker 1: previously ran the Pentagon's secret government program formed to study
- 31:43Speaker 1: UFO phenomena, leaked three videos captured by military pilots showing
- 31:49Speaker 1: unidentified aerial phenomena flying off of the east coast of
- 31:53Speaker 1: the United States. Let me say all that again. Tom DeLonge,
- 31:58Speaker 1: the Blink-182 guy, hired away the Pentagon official who ran
- 32:01Speaker 1: the government's secret program to study UFOs. a program the
- 32:05Speaker 1: government once adamantly denied the existence of but reversed course
- 32:08Speaker 1: on and admitted that, yes, the program did exist and
- 32:11Speaker 1: that millions of dollars were secretly funneled to this program
- 32:14Speaker 1: to study alien and aerial phenomena. And that guy helped
- 32:18Speaker 1: Tom leak the video showing that aerial phenomena. And that then,
- 32:23Speaker 1: and this is the point... the government itself officially declassified
- 32:28Speaker 1: that video in 2020, in effect confirming that the video
- 32:33Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge leaked back in 2017 was real and also
- 32:37Speaker 1: in the process effectively admitting the existence of aliens. As
- 32:42Speaker 1: reported in the New York Times in 2021, the government
- 32:45Speaker 1: admitted that it had no explanation for the aerial objects
- 32:49Speaker 1: and stopped just short of ruling out aliens. Again, the
- 32:53Speaker 1: government stopped short of ruling out aliens. Tom DeLonge, the
- 32:57Speaker 1: guitarist from Blink-182, did that. This guy. What would you
- 33:02Speaker 1: guys do? This happened to me. What would you do
- 33:04Speaker 1: if you were like sleeping and you feel like a
- 33:07Speaker 1: slight tapping on your body? And you wake up and
- 33:10Speaker 1: you're like, what? And you look down, and your brother
- 33:13Speaker 1: is going, Mr. Inky-Doo-Doo-Doo, and walks up your legs. He's like,
- 33:17Speaker 1: walking up your legs. And he goes and zips down
- 33:20Speaker 1: your zipper and grabs the dick and goes, Oh, Mr. Inky-Doo-Doo-Doo-Doo.
- 33:25Speaker 1: It happened to me three times last night. I fucked
- 33:29Speaker 1: your mom. Mark Hoppus of Blink-182 was sick. Really sick.
- 33:39Speaker 1: It was 2021, and there was no Blink-182, actually. So
- 33:43Speaker 1: I should say that Mark Hoppus, formerly of Blink-182, was sick.
- 34:03Speaker 1: He didn't mean to post the photo of him receiving
- 34:06Speaker 1: his first round of chemotherapy to his million-plus followers on Instagram.
- 34:11Speaker 1: He had a witty caption for the photo of him
- 34:13Speaker 1: sitting there in his L.A. Dodgers hat, thick black-framed glasses,
- 34:17Speaker 1: and comfy Birkenstock sandals over blue socks, and the caption read, Yes, hello,
- 34:23Speaker 1: one cancer treatment, please. Mark meant for the image to
- 34:27Speaker 1: be shared only with his close friends on Instagram, but
- 34:30Speaker 1: he messed up his settings and the image went wide
- 34:32Speaker 1: for all of his followers. And there's no telling if
- 34:36Speaker 1: Mark's ex-bandmate Tom DeLonge was included in Mark's close friends
- 34:40Speaker 1: setting on Instagram, or if he was part of Mark's
- 34:43Speaker 1: wider set of impersonal account followers. But regardless, when Tom
- 34:47Speaker 1: learned of Mark's diagnosis, he knew he was going to
- 34:50Speaker 1: do something he thought he would never do again. Play
- 34:53Speaker 1: music with Blink-182. Tom has since been quoted as saying,
- 35:00Speaker 1: when he told me he was sick, that was like
- 35:03Speaker 1: the gnarliest. Nothing matters, really. DeLong continued. It wasn't about
- 35:08Speaker 1: fame or money or how big Blink was or anything.
- 35:11Speaker 1: It was like, you're going to get through this shit
- 35:13Speaker 1: and we're going to go dominate. You need a purpose
- 35:19Speaker 1: in life, especially when you're sick and fighting for your life.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Tom DeLong knew all about needing purpose. He'd been purpose-driven
- 35:28Speaker 1: for the better part of the last decade. Unfortunately, that purpose,
- 35:33Speaker 1: Tom's mission to disclose the truth about aliens, often ran
- 35:37Speaker 1: up against Tom's earlier passion, playing music with Blink-182. But
- 35:42Speaker 1: that was all about to change. Blink-182 reunited, and Mark
- 35:47Speaker 1: Hoppus beat cancer. Tom, Mark, and Travis are back on stage,
- 35:52Speaker 1: stadium stages. There are less dick jokes, but they're still there,
- 35:56Speaker 1: and now there's another element of Blink's sets. That moment
- 36:00Speaker 1: when Mark leans into the mic and says, Tom was right,
- 36:04Speaker 1: and the crowd freaks out because they know what's coming.
- 36:08Speaker 1: Blink's 1999 banger from Enema of the State, Aliens Exist.
- 36:14Speaker 1: The vindication is palpable, if not juvenile, but that's what
- 36:17Speaker 1: it should be. This is still, after all, rock and
- 36:20Speaker 1: roll in Even though the boys in Blink-182 are all
- 36:23Speaker 1: either in or about to be in their 50s, rock
- 36:26Speaker 1: and roll is still the province of youth. It's juvenile,
- 36:30Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a weird sort
- 36:33Speaker 1: of wisdom that only kids process. They're wise enough to dream,
- 36:38Speaker 1: to question authority unequivocally and without shame. Rock and roll,
- 36:42Speaker 1: punk rock, whatever you want to call it, is a
- 36:45Speaker 1: rebellion against growing up, against accepting adult mandates that stifle
- 36:50Speaker 1: creativity your imagination, and your ability to dream. Blink-182 and
- 36:56Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge knew this when they were young punks playing
- 36:59Speaker 1: shows in Southern California, and they never lost sight of it.
- 37:03Speaker 1: Tom DeLonge never accepted the grown-up notion that dreams and
- 37:07Speaker 1: big ideas and thinking outside of the prefabricated suburban box
- 37:11Speaker 1: were the type of childish thoughts that adults need to
- 37:14Speaker 1: put aside because, well, grown-ups suck. And the federal government
- 37:19Speaker 1: and the media are filled with grown-ups, the majority of
- 37:23Speaker 1: whom lack imagination and the courage needed to make like
- 37:27Speaker 1: those old punk rockers and question authority. Tom DeLonge did
- 37:32Speaker 1: something no other civilian has ever done. Compelled the federal
- 37:36Speaker 1: government to disclose previously unacknowledged truths about alien existence here
- 37:41Speaker 1: on Earth. The question now isn't whether or not aliens exist.
- 37:47Speaker 1: As Blink-182 sang about in 1999, the question is why
- 37:52Speaker 1: the government, or at least some part of the government,
- 37:55Speaker 1: now wants us to know this truth. Why have they
- 37:58Speaker 1: reached some sort of unofficial partnership with Tom DeLonge? My
- 38:03Speaker 1: theory is that there's more coming. Much more. Advanced radar
- 38:08Speaker 1: systems are what made it possible for those naval pilots
- 38:11Speaker 1: back in the late aughts to capture that UAP footage.
- 38:15Speaker 1: What technology are we developing currently that will similarly unveil
- 38:19Speaker 1: deeper truths about extra and ultra terrestrials? Will the AI
- 38:23Speaker 1: revolution irrefutably prove alien existence in a way that the
- 38:27Speaker 1: automaton bureaucrats and the disinterested public won't be able to ignore?
- 38:32Speaker 1: Does this coming onslaught of technological truth worry the government
- 38:36Speaker 1: enough to compel it toward more disclosure? Perhaps. It's just
- 38:41Speaker 1: a theory. It's just me dreaming. Just like Tom DeLonge
- 38:46Speaker 1: from Blink-182, whose mission is anything but a disgrace. I'm
- 38:54Speaker 1: Jake Brennan, and this is Disgraceland. All right. Thanks for
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- 39:14Speaker 1: do you believe in non-human intelligence? Do aliens exist? And
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- 40:51Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland. Rewind on Tom DeLonge and Blink-182. What
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