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Sharri | 22 January · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why.
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Speaker 2: On Sky News, this is.
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Speaker 3: Sharry Good Evening tonight, I'll lift the lid on deeply
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Speaker 3: irresponsible claims from the AFP and alban Easy. I can
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Speaker 3: reveal there is no tangible evidence at all pointing to
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Speaker 3: foreign actors funding anti Semitic attacks in Australia.
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Speaker 4: No tangible evidence.
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Speaker 3: I'll expose these claims as at a speculative line of
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Speaker 3: inquiry at best. That exclusive coming up also tonight, when
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Speaker 3: will Albanisi call the election? I'll bring you inside information
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Speaker 3: from a political analyst. In a moment and Milania's agenda
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Speaker 3: in the White House revealed, Liz Burke would join me
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Speaker 3: to speak about what the.
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Speaker 4: New First Lady has planned.
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Speaker 3: Also on the show tonight, an Israeli daughter whose father
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Speaker 3: was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist. The killer now set
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Speaker 3: free under the hostage deal. His daughter will join me
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Speaker 3: to share her reaction. Okay, we're finally seeing some arrests
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Speaker 3: in relation to the anti Semitic attacks. Here are the
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Speaker 3: details of nine people arrested for their alleged involvement in
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Speaker 3: recent violent incidents. Now this is important because we need
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Speaker 3: a name and shame who these grubs are, and we
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Speaker 3: need to know their motivation for committing these alleged attacks
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Speaker 3: against Australian Jews. Will you remember the Wallara attacks in
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Speaker 3: December where kill Israel and death to Israel was scrolled
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Speaker 3: on buildings and a car was set on fire. A woman,
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Speaker 3: Tammy Faruja, aged thirty four, has been charged in relation
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Speaker 3: to the incident, and her boyfriend, Scott Marshall is facing
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Speaker 3: unrelated charges to the Wallara incident and is presently on
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Speaker 3: remind in jail.
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Speaker 4: Well here they both are.
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Speaker 3: Tammy's home in Liverpool in Sydney's West was raided by
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Speaker 3: police on Monday morning. Leam Mendy's in The Australian reports
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Speaker 3: that social media posts made on December tenth, and that's
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Speaker 3: the day before the attack by that mother of five,
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Speaker 3: will be relied on in court where she allegedly asked
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Speaker 3: if anyone had Jerry Kn's she could use and you're
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Speaker 3: looking at that social media post on the screen. The
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Speaker 3: Australian also reports that according to a social media profile
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Speaker 3: in her name, Feruja wrote that she'd been raided on
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Speaker 3: Christmas Eve and her partner had been locked up and
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Speaker 3: that our phones got seized. Now we won't know until
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Speaker 3: police present their facts, their case in court. Why Faruja
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Speaker 3: allegedly decided to engage in those activities. Her social media
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Speaker 3: profiles don't contain any activism against Israel. Then there's the
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Speaker 3: first Willara vandalism spree, when, as you remember, ten cars
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Speaker 3: and buildings were vandalized and torched in November. Well, three
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Speaker 3: men have been charged, Muhammed Farhat, he's aged twenty, Also
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Speaker 3: Thomas Stoyanevsky nineteen, and a third twenty one year old
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Speaker 3: man who hasn't yet been named. He'll being caught for
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Speaker 3: the first time in early March. Now I've already reported
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Speaker 3: that Muhammed Farihat allegedly has a Hezvila tattoo on his neck.
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Speaker 3: He was arrested at Sydney Airport before a flight to
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Speaker 3: leave the country.
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Speaker 4: Now let's look at.
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Speaker 3: The Newtown's synagogue arson attack, and there was an arrest
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Speaker 3: made today. Adamule aged thirty three. He was arrested by
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Speaker 3: police at his home in Camperdown. As you can see here,
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Speaker 3: he has on his fingers if you look closely, a
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Speaker 3: tattoo that says nineteen forty one. He's allegedly one of
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Speaker 3: two masked, hooded men who were captured on CCTV sprang
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Speaker 3: swastikas on the Newtown Synagogue eleven days ago before preparing
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Speaker 3: to set it alight and luckily the fire burnt out.
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Speaker 3: Then four men have now been charged in relation to
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Speaker 3: the fires at Lewis Continental Kitchen in Bondai and the
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Speaker 3: Curly Lewis Brewery in Bondi in October, Guy Finnegan thirty one,
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Speaker 3: Craig Bantoft twenty seven, one Aaoumi twenty six and Wayne
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Speaker 3: Ogden forty.
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Speaker 4: Police alleged that two of.
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Speaker 3: The men were asked by someone they had in their
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Speaker 3: phones on the encrypted signal chat conversation app as James Bond,
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Speaker 3: and they met him in person as well in Sydney,
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Speaker 3: and police alleged that James Bond was asking two of
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Speaker 3: those men to burn down the Kosher kitchen in Bondi,
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Speaker 3: but instead, in a case of mistaken identity, they got
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Speaker 3: the wrong place and touched a brewery instead. Now one
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Speaker 3: of these men, Guy Finnegan, was only given a ten
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Speaker 3: month sentence ten months. Premier Chris Minn said this just
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Speaker 3: wasn't good enough and police will appeal it.
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Speaker 5: We need to send a strong and unambiguous message that
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Speaker 5: you will face the full force of the law and
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Speaker 5: we expect and we hope that when police do the
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Speaker 5: job of arresting these individuals and putting them before the courts,
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Speaker 5: significant sentences are handed down.
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Speaker 3: And he's right, of course, there needs to be strong sentences,
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Speaker 3: not a light touch to these serious attacks. Now, this
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Speaker 3: is really positive news that some of these grubs like Guy.
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Speaker 4: Finnegan have been convicted.
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Speaker 3: The police have come a long way from that disgraceful
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Speaker 3: press conference where they nitpicked the precise anti Semitic phrase
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Speaker 3: that was uttered at the Opera House and claimed there
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Speaker 3: were no problems. As the Premier Chris Mens now acknowledges,
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Speaker 3: these violent attacks begin with words.
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Speaker 5: Anyone who preaches hate in our community, who sets about
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Speaker 5: dividing Australian against Australian and undermining what it means to
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Speaker 5: live in Australia in twenty twenty five, will be subject
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Speaker 5: to the laws.
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Speaker 3: Men's is throwing police resources at these attacks and they're
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Speaker 3: making headway, but there are still many unsolved incidents. The
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Speaker 3: childcare center fire bombing, it just took place yesterday, the
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Speaker 3: Dover Heights attacks, the Southern Sydney Synagogue vandalism, the ADAS
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Speaker 3: synagogue in Melbourne. The perpetrators behind all of these major
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Speaker 3: incidents remain at large, and so do the attackers behind
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Speaker 3: many of the vandalism on political offices. The police minister
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Speaker 3: in New South Wales insists that there are good lines
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Speaker 3: of inquiry into some of these.
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Speaker 6: There is good progress on the attack on the synagogue
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Speaker 6: in Aliwa, very strong leads for investigators in that one,
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Speaker 6: as well as the daycare fire at Maruba yesterday. There
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Speaker 6: are very good lines of inquiry.
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Speaker 4: Well the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: He claimed today that some of the perpetrators were being paid,
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Speaker 3: perhaps by overseas actors, the implication that.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't his problem, not his fault.
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Speaker 7: I'm reluctant to say anything that compromises those investigations, but
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Speaker 7: it is important that people understand where some of these
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Speaker 7: attacks are coming from. And it would appear, as the
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Speaker 7: AFP Commissioner said yesterday, that some of these are being
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Speaker 7: perpetrated by people who don't have a particular issued, aren't
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Speaker 7: motivated by an ideology, but are paid actors. Now it's
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Speaker 7: unclear who or or where the payments are coming from.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 3: I've spoken to police and government sources today, Senior ones
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Speaker 3: and I can tell you that in the majority of
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Speaker 3: cases this is blatantly untrue that any foreign actors were involved.
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Speaker 3: This claim is an unproven and damaging distraction. Whether there
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Speaker 3: have been foreign payments made is just one line of inquiry,
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Speaker 3: one line of inquiry being investigated by the AFP in
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Speaker 3: relation to mostly Victorian cases that the AFP are involved in,
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Speaker 3: and even that is speculative. I have confirmed there is
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Speaker 3: no tangible evidence at all pointing to foreign actors being involved.
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Speaker 4: So, just to.
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Speaker 3: Reiterate that very important point, there is no tangible evidence
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Speaker 3: pointing to foreign actors being involved in these anti Semitic
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Speaker 3: attacks in Australia. Certainly isn't relevant to the childcare firebombing
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Speaker 3: of yesterday, or the Dover Heights attack or any of
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Speaker 3: the instances in Sydney when New South Wales police are investigating,
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Speaker 3: and the idea that Russia or China or r Mus
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Speaker 3: could have been behind this is being dismissed by serious
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Speaker 3: players as ludicrous. Now tonight The Australian has published a
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Speaker 3: story about a criminal being referred to as James bond
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Speaker 3: I mentioned this a moment ago. Who was behind the
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Speaker 3: arson attack in Bondi, well, look at the message sent
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Speaker 3: from this James Bond on signal and tell me whether
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Speaker 3: you think it sounds like someone overseas.
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Speaker 4: Use the F word. Obviously I won't say.
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Speaker 3: Use f use as in he sang to them, use
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Speaker 3: stuffed up the whole thing.
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Speaker 4: Now, if us.
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Speaker 3: F couldn't do it from the start, then why did
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Speaker 3: you whose even went there for f me It's not
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Speaker 3: even done two percent burned, F me debt, f me debt.
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Speaker 4: Very Australian phrase now.
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Speaker 3: James Patterson, the Shadow Home Affairs Minister, was also doubtful
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Speaker 3: that any foreign actors were involved.
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister has not said whether he was briefed on this,
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Speaker 9: when he was briefed on this, whether the National Security
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Speaker 9: Committee of Cabinet has met, whether our intelligence agencies have
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Speaker 9: bread brought into this, whether he's discussed this with our
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Speaker 9: Five Eyes partners, and what action he is taking if
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Speaker 9: it is indeed true that we have a foreign sponsored
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Speaker 9: campaign of terror against the Jewish community in our country.
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Speaker 9: Also yet to be explained is why it appears that
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Speaker 9: so far Australia is unique in being on the receiving
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Speaker 9: end of this.
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Speaker 3: So this is the Prime Minister, yet again trying to
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Speaker 3: shift blame for a serious problem that's arisen under his watch,
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Speaker 3: a wave of domestic terror that his government is ultimately
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Speaker 3: responsible for, and they can't blame anyone else, certainly not
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Speaker 3: foreign actors. My sources tell me that some cases are
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Speaker 3: motivated by the Israel Gaza war. And as I said,
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Speaker 3: we know that one of the men has a Hesbala tattoo.
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Speaker 3: But other perpetrators are being investigated by police for white
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Speaker 3: supremacist and neo Nazi ideology. That's why swastiks have been
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Speaker 3: painted in the vandalism. An AFP Detective Superintendent David Craig
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Speaker 3: said today that this terror was home grown, homegrown terror.
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Speaker 3: Have a look at his strong comments on Sunrise.
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Speaker 10: So just briefly, are you saying this federal government has
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Speaker 10: allowed this sort of hate speech to fester.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying that I've done a six different prime ministers
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Speaker 2: in the Australian Federal Police, a lot of my time
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Speaker 2: in CANA terrorism, and I've never seen such a jelly
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Speaker 2: jeweled Spino's response to hatred and UnAustralian behavior by a
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Speaker 2: prime minister.
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Speaker 3: Well, he's right and everyone knows it. Even Israel has
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Speaker 3: had to try and intervene to get Albanezi to take
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Speaker 3: tough action on anti Semitism. Israel's Deputy Foreign Minister Sharan Haskell,
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Speaker 3: as you know, a regular on this program. She told
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Speaker 3: me on Monday night that the Albanese government was to
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Speaker 3: blame for anti Semitism, and then she made similar comments
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Speaker 3: on the ABC today.
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Speaker 11: Obviously, the attitude of the current Australian government towards Israel
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Speaker 11: is inflaming a lot of these emotions and giving, I guess,
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Speaker 11: some acceptance when you do not fight it. I mean,
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Speaker 11: what are they waiting for for someone to die, for
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Speaker 11: someone to be murdered?
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Speaker 3: Well, Tony Burke hit back at her, claiming she was
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Speaker 3: wrong and that the criminals aren't paying attention to his
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Speaker 3: government's policies towards Israel.
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Speaker 12: I don't believe that the sorts of thugs that are
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Speaker 12: engaging in this sort of behavior are checking what's happening
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Speaker 12: in the General Assembly of the United Nations when it
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Speaker 12: meets in New York.
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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, they still don't get it. They've
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Speaker 3: never taken this problem seriously. Albanesi's top government ministers insisted
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Speaker 3: on speaking about Islamophobia when asked about anti Semitism. That
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Speaker 3: was downplaying what was unfolding before their very eyes. This
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Speaker 3: national security crisis should have been the top priority for
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Speaker 3: the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, but of course Jews
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Speaker 3: aren't his constituents in his Western Sydney marginal seat, so
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Speaker 3: it seems that our safety mattered less to him. Instead,
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Speaker 3: Tony Burke and Albanesi and Penny Wong gave visas to
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Speaker 3: nearly three thousand Palestinians in Gaza, allowing them to come
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Speaker 3: to Australia, where they're now going to permanently stay, despite
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Speaker 3: Pennywog initially saying that they were just temporary visas.
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Speaker 4: That was a lie.
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Speaker 3: The Albanese government is taking the risk of literally importing
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Speaker 3: hatred against Jews. If they cared about antisemitism, they wouldn't
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Speaker 3: do that. They've also continued to found the flames of
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Speaker 3: antisemitism by repeatedly criticizing Israel, which only emboldens the aggressive
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian activists. You see the Prime Minister, you see
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Speaker 3: it day in day out. In the one breath he
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Speaker 3: criticizes Israel and in the next he calls for calm
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Speaker 3: on the Middle East issue on our streets. His inconsistent
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Speaker 3: messaging is part of the problem. He could have instead
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Speaker 3: prioritized calming tensions.
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Speaker 4: He can't solve the war.
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Speaker 3: In Gaza, but he chose not to do that, and
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Speaker 3: neither did Pennywog, who has overseen the most hostile foreign
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Speaker 3: policy towards Israe in Australian government history.
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Speaker 4: She has overturned a.
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Speaker 3: Long standing bipartisan foreign policy towards Israel and treats our
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Speaker 3: ally like it's our enemy. She has not been a
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Speaker 3: friend of the Jewish homeland and she's one of the
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Speaker 3: most despised politicians in the entire Jewish community. And now
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Speaker 3: she'll be attending the eightieth commemoration of the Liberation of Auschwitz.
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Speaker 3: It's an insult to the memory of the millions who
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Speaker 3: lost their lives in the Holocaust, and Holocaust survivor Peter
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Speaker 3: Krauss told me today that she just shouldn't be going.
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Speaker 13: I don't believe she is an appropriate person, but I
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Speaker 13: do believe that she does actually represent our present government.
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Speaker 13: And I regret to say that for the first time
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Speaker 13: in what is it seventy seven year years that I've
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Speaker 13: been an Australian, that I'm ashamed of the way Australia
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Speaker 13: is behaving with regard to that, I don't believe that
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Speaker 13: she is the right person to be Foreign Minister given
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Speaker 13: the approach and attitude that she has demonstrated.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get reaction to this from the former president
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Speaker 3: of the Victorian Liberal Party, Michael Kroger and farmer labor
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Speaker 3: Senator Graham Richardson.
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Speaker 4: Welcome to you both. Michael Kroger, what do you think
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Speaker 4: of this?
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Speaker 3: You know, this nonsense suggestion that foreign actors are responsible
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Speaker 3: for what's happening here.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm speechless, as I am every day when I
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Speaker 1: hear Albanesi speak or Penny Wong speak. I mean, let's
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Speaker 1: be Frank Shari. This federal government led by Albanesian Wong
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Speaker 1: exudes hatred for the and contempt for the Jewish state
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Speaker 1: at almost every opportunity, apart from obligatory things like the
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Speaker 1: docksing legislation, etcetera, which you know that's easy to do.
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Speaker 1: You got a prime minister that has he ever been
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Speaker 1: to Auschwitz or Oschwitz as he calls it. Has Pennywong
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Speaker 1: ever been to Auschwitz? I mean I was at Auschwitz
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Speaker 1: a few months ago and Auschwitz berken out. I'd say
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Speaker 1: this to Penny Wong Auschwitz is not a place for
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Speaker 1: your Penny. It is not a place for you to go.
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Speaker 1: You on day one after October seven, Penny, when Jews
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Speaker 1: were beheaded, tortured, raped, mutilated, and taken prisoner, you called
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Speaker 1: on the Jewish state to exercise restraint, and you've got
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Speaker 1: worse ever since. You will have been a paria yesterday
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Speaker 1: in Washington, You'll be a pariah in Poland. And I'll
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Speaker 1: say this to Albanisi. For goodness sake, Anthony, show you
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Speaker 1: some decency, mates. Sends the Speaker of the House of Representatives,
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Speaker 1: or Andrew Charlton or someone who's at least pro Jewish
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Speaker 1: to our Schwitz to send Penny Wong after falling over
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Speaker 1: Sue Lyones, please elbow. If you tried to insult the
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Speaker 1: Jewish community more, you couldn't be doing a better job,
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Speaker 1: my friend, rich.
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Speaker 3: O, the firebombing of the childcare center that happened yesterday
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Speaker 3: followed the Dover Heights attack.
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Speaker 4: Look, without giving.
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Speaker 3: Away too many details, it's very close to home for you,
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Speaker 3: rich Oh, you know this is in your general neighborhood.
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Speaker 3: Can you tell us how rocked the local community is
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Speaker 3: and how you felt having that atrocious arson attack you know,
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Speaker 3: it just streets away from you.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think there's genuine concern. Obviously, there's a pretty
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Speaker 14: strong representation of Jews in our area, Dover Heights, I
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Speaker 14: think well known for that. I think we've got four
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Speaker 14: synagogues in walking distance. So obviously it's an area that
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Speaker 14: you have to be careful about because it's going to
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Speaker 14: be a target area for these rat bags, for these
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Speaker 14: evil people who see no problem in mutilating children, let
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Speaker 14: alone what they do to women, which I won't go into.
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Speaker 14: I think this is a really, really a very critical
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Speaker 14: moment here, a critical moment, and I'm not totally satisfied
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Speaker 14: with the response of my own government.
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Speaker 3: Well, I should hope not, because no sensible person would be.
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Speaker 4: I mean, a database, come on.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about that issue of the failed
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Speaker 3: National Cabinet a bit later with Caroline Marcus, but that
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Speaker 3: it was such a pr stunt and then nothing came
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Speaker 3: out of it.
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Speaker 4: Except for a database.
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Speaker 3: You know, didn't even really properly consider the minimum mandatory sentencing,
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Speaker 3: which was Dutton's suggestion and which I understand some of
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Speaker 3: the other states did support as well. All right, let's
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Speaker 3: have a look at Trump's inauguration. Michael Krog, of course
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Speaker 3: you follow US politics very closely. What were your main
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Speaker 3: takeouts or perhaps what were your favorite things out of
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Speaker 3: Trump's executive orders.
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Speaker 1: Well, Trump has hit the ground running, as you would
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Speaker 1: expect him to have done. He's issued the executive orders
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Speaker 1: that he said he'd do. You know, border protection is
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Speaker 1: critical for America, and it's not, as that Anglican minister
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Speaker 1: said today, you know, him not showing compassion. I mean,
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Speaker 1: no country can open its borders to eleven or more
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Speaker 1: million undocumented people. I thought yesterday was typical Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: He's leading from the front. He wants to make America
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Speaker 1: greater as again, as he said, He's going to make
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Speaker 1: some serio economic inroads. I'm glad he's getting rid of
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Speaker 1: DEI I'm glad he's got a federal hiring freeze. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm glad they're going to have a cut back in
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Speaker 1: federal employees. I mean, the American the Americans got a
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Speaker 1: thirty six trillion dollar US dollars fifty trillion plus Australian
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Speaker 1: deficit that's getting worse three or four trillion every year.
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Speaker 1: So he's got to do something about government expenditure. So
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Speaker 1: you know he's at least making those tough decisions. The
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Speaker 1: one thing I didn't like, to be quite frank, was
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Speaker 1: when he had the families of the hostages on the
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Speaker 1: stage yesterday at the Capital Theater. He talked about the
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Speaker 1: J six hostages, and I thought the combining of the
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Speaker 1: two was graded greatly with me. But apart from that,
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Speaker 1: he's doing everything he said he'd.
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Speaker 3: Do, at least see how the hostages up there front
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Speaker 3: and stage, putting that issue absolutely, you know on the
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Speaker 3: chat because you're wearing the host in Michael Kroger as
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Speaker 3: I usually do it, and we do need them to
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Speaker 3: come home. Rich O, this must have been a tough
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Speaker 3: day for you having to watch the inauguration. We know
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Speaker 3: you were supportive of Kamala Harris. Do you admit that,
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Speaker 3: you know some of Chump's moves yesterday were sensible. Maybe
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Speaker 3: you support getting people back into the office. Maybe you
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Speaker 3: support having two genders.
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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, Look, I don't believe that Trump that everything
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Speaker 14: he says or everything he does is evil. It's clearly not.
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Speaker 14: He does some things that are good, that are worthwhile,
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Speaker 14: that any one of us would do if we had
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Speaker 14: the chance. So good luck to him. I'm glad that
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Speaker 14: he's doing some of those things. He's just got to
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Speaker 14: make sure that he rains himself in because sometimes I
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Speaker 14: think of the rhetoric that he can come up with,
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Speaker 14: it just gets a little bit out of hand. I
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Speaker 14: think he needs to be a little more careful when
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Speaker 14: he opens his mouth.
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Speaker 3: I had Peter Dutton on the show lineat night and
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Speaker 3: I asked him about Trump's return to the presidency and
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Speaker 3: there's global shift away from progressive politics, and Dutton does
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Speaker 3: think it's a movement that's sweeping the globe, even Australia.
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Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say.
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Speaker 15: I think there is going to be a near revolution
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Speaker 15: that comes with the Trump administration in relation to a
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Speaker 15: lot of the work issues that might be fashionable in
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Speaker 15: universities and at the ABC, but that just starn't cutting
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Speaker 15: it around kitchen tables at the moment where people can't
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Speaker 15: pay their bills under the urban EZI cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 3: Michael, what do you think do you think we can
23:38
Speaker 3: finally say that woke politics and the age of woke
23:41
Speaker 3: is coming to an end, that people are getting sick
23:44
Speaker 3: of it, and partly because of the very real cost
23:47
Speaker 3: of living pressures as Peter Dighton says, well, we've.
23:53
Speaker 1: Reached peak Woke probably six months ago and now the
23:57
Speaker 1: world is turning against the sort of this left wing extremism.
24:00
Speaker 1: And you can't blame the Wake activists. These are left
24:02
Speaker 1: wing activists all over the world. They're in corporate affairs
24:06
Speaker 1: departments of major corporations, of universities, of arts organizations, at
24:10
Speaker 1: the ABC, et cetera, et cetera. And they've done a
24:13
Speaker 1: very good job but convincing. They're left of the West
24:17
Speaker 1: to go extreme left on all his issues. And now
24:20
Speaker 1: as people have looked at this more closely and waken up,
24:22
Speaker 1: they've decided this extreme and has to come to an end.
24:25
Speaker 1: So hopefully the Business Council Australia and DEI policies of
24:29
Speaker 1: Australian corporations will be revoked in due course and people
24:32
Speaker 1: will get back to merit based appointments. So yeah, Peter
24:35
Speaker 1: Dutton's absolutely right. It is sweeping the world. It's certainly
24:37
Speaker 1: sweeping Australia. And if you haven't got the devastating poll
24:41
Speaker 1: released in the Fairfax Press tonight, in the Age and
24:43
Speaker 1: the Sydney Morning Herald, where Dutton is now preferred Prime
24:47
Speaker 1: minister by five percent over Albanisi in the labor vote
24:50
Speaker 1: in Victoria is now twenty five percent. Dutton may not
24:55
Speaker 1: be on seventy two as I've predicted in recent months.
24:57
Speaker 1: He may have been a lot more seats than seventy two.
25:00
Speaker 1: Labor are at serious risks of losing a whole lot
25:03
Speaker 1: of other seats in Victoria than the ones that I've
25:06
Speaker 1: probably thought. When you look at Goldstein and Kuyong, those
25:09
Speaker 1: seats were propped up by labor voters voting for the Teal. Well,
25:13
Speaker 1: if the labor votes evaporating in Victoria, boy, that puts
25:16
Speaker 1: Keyon and Goldstein.
25:17
Speaker 4: Really at risk. No, it's an interesting point, Richo. What
25:21
Speaker 4: do you think.
25:22
Speaker 3: I want to know what you think about, you know,
25:24
Speaker 3: this rejection of woke playing into the federal election here,
25:28
Speaker 3: but also what Michael just said about the fact that
25:32
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton might be heading for perhaps majority government, not
25:35
Speaker 3: just seventy two seats that he could actually win outright.
25:39
Speaker 4: What do you think?
25:40
Speaker 14: I think Dutton's doing very well, and I've been saying
25:43
Speaker 14: that for some months. I think Labor wrote him off
25:47
Speaker 14: as they once did Tony Abbott. Always a very very
25:51
Speaker 14: dangerous thing to do, to write our political leaders like this.
25:55
Speaker 14: Never never would I do it, because I don't think
25:58
Speaker 14: you can get to that position of being a political
26:01
Speaker 14: leader if you're a complete dope. It doesn't work that way.
26:04
Speaker 14: It means you've got an active and you know, obviously
26:10
Speaker 14: a pretty good brain to be able to do it.
26:12
Speaker 14: And so I'm not someone who knocks Dutton over any
26:17
Speaker 14: of that stuff. I think Dutton is a formidable opponent
26:20
Speaker 14: for labor and at the moment you've got to say
26:23
Speaker 14: he'd be favorite of the book is to get.
26:25
Speaker 3: Up really, so you also think Peter Duttan's now the favorite.
26:29
Speaker 3: So we could be seeing a history being broken here
26:32
Speaker 3: in a one term government for the first time in
26:35
Speaker 3: a century.
26:36
Speaker 14: Well, it's possible. I mean, it doesn't happen in Australia
26:40
Speaker 14: very often, but it's possible. And I'm certainly not going
26:43
Speaker 14: to write off the chance of that. But I think,
26:46
Speaker 14: you know, it's just it's going to come down to
26:48
Speaker 14: the government getting back to focusing on what matters and
26:53
Speaker 14: I don't think they've done much of that lately.
26:55
Speaker 3: No, definitely, And look, you also have to wonder about
26:57
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister's own, you know, desire to stays PM,
27:01
Speaker 3: especially when he's got a holiday house Cope Cabana Beach
27:04
Speaker 3: waiting for him. All right, rich O and Michael Kroger.
27:09
Speaker 3: Great to see you both as always on a Wednesday.
27:11
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Well, let's continue this discussion about
27:14
Speaker 3: who is most likely to be the next prime minister,
27:18
Speaker 3: but also when are we going to head to the polls?
27:20
Speaker 3: This is the question we're all asking. I'm joined now
27:24
Speaker 3: by the Director of Government Relations in Canberra, head of
27:27
Speaker 3: Bonde Partners, Phil Hudson, and former long term political journalist.
27:31
Speaker 3: Feel great to see you. Look, you wrote a terrific
27:34
Speaker 3: piece in the Daily Telegraph talking about the most likely
27:38
Speaker 3: dates for the federal election. Can you run us through them?
27:43
Speaker 16: Well, thanks Shari. It's great to be if your viewers. Look,
27:46
Speaker 16: it's the great guessing game, isn't it that we have
27:48
Speaker 16: whenever an election comes round. Except this time we've got
27:51
Speaker 16: a bit of a budget twist. But as we get
27:54
Speaker 16: closer and closer and there's a deadline on this a
27:57
Speaker 16: constitutional deadline, it's really coming down now to two choices.
28:02
Speaker 16: I think either we're going to be having an election
28:04
Speaker 16: on April twelve, or we're going to have an election
28:07
Speaker 16: on one of the first three Saturdays in May. Now,
28:10
Speaker 16: of course there are other possibilities, but I think they
28:13
Speaker 16: are a lot less likely. The Prime Minister has made
28:17
Speaker 16: it clear that parliament's going to come back for two
28:19
Speaker 16: weeks in February, and just following on from the discussion
28:23
Speaker 16: that you just have, I think that's really going to
28:25
Speaker 16: be important for both leaders to use the parliament to
28:30
Speaker 16: try and gee up the troops, get their own confidence
28:35
Speaker 16: going start to put down some heavy markers. Of course,
28:39
Speaker 16: the Prime Minister has got a big speech this Friday,
28:41
Speaker 16: which there's a lot of expectation about him using that
28:45
Speaker 16: to properly kick off the year, even though they've both
28:48
Speaker 16: been out and about and I sort of think, so
28:52
Speaker 16: we're in the election, where are those dates? I mean,
28:54
Speaker 16: there are a lot of dates that are blocked out
28:57
Speaker 16: wa election. There was talk last year about it being moved.
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Speaker 16: I don't think it's going to be moved. And Overlatch,
29:07
Speaker 16: which is also a long weekend in half the country
29:10
Speaker 16: I think has been forgotten by many people. There's a
29:12
Speaker 16: Grand Prix in Victoria. These things matter when they're trying
29:16
Speaker 16: to work out the good time to go. Easter is
29:19
Speaker 16: unusually late, which is what opens April twelve up to
29:23
Speaker 16: being a real option. April twelve means there's no budget.
29:27
Speaker 16: The may options mean there is a budget. And the
29:32
Speaker 16: Treasurer was out and about today making his case about
29:37
Speaker 16: how he thinks the government has performed, and he has
29:40
Speaker 16: a pretty good line there. He says, they've brought down
29:42
Speaker 16: two surplus budgets, improve the state of the budget by
29:47
Speaker 16: two hundred billion. Why would they want to have another
29:49
Speaker 16: budget and risk it being in deficit and the story
29:53
Speaker 16: not being as clear cut now it's not working with voters,
29:57
Speaker 16: but a more messy message may not work either.
30:01
Speaker 4: For those I want to ask you about this is
30:03
Speaker 4: the resources before you go.
30:04
Speaker 3: I also want to ask you about this possibility of
30:06
Speaker 3: a rate cut, because that had been something at least
30:10
Speaker 3: senior labor figures were hoping for, so that labour could say, look,
30:15
Speaker 3: the inflation crisis is over where on the way back
30:19
Speaker 3: to more affordable way of life? You know, proof that
30:22
Speaker 3: they were making in roads. How likely do you think
30:24
Speaker 3: a rate cut is?
30:25
Speaker 16: Looking it seems to change that what the experts say
30:30
Speaker 16: depending on each additional piece of data. The value of
30:34
Speaker 16: the dollars taken a fall and then a little bit
30:37
Speaker 16: of a bounce back. There's a Reserve Bank Board meeting
30:40
Speaker 16: in mid February. Then there's one ride at the start
30:43
Speaker 16: of April. Look, it's a big gamble. This is probably
30:47
Speaker 16: a very big gamble for the Prime Minister if he
30:50
Speaker 16: thinks that he wants to wait for a rate cut.
30:52
Speaker 16: That might not happen. There is going to be a
30:54
Speaker 16: change in the composition of the Reserve Bank Board for
30:57
Speaker 16: that April meeting, whether the new board members are any
31:01
Speaker 16: more convinced of the need for a rate cut. Look,
31:05
Speaker 16: it's a very hard one to pick that one, and
31:11
Speaker 16: I think that's the government would dearly love a rate cut,
31:15
Speaker 16: but I don't think they can. I don't think in
31:17
Speaker 16: their calculations they're going to put that one in the
31:20
Speaker 16: bank column.
31:21
Speaker 3: All right, So your firm favorite April twelve to head
31:24
Speaker 3: to the poles Field Hards in Great Tavy on the
31:26
Speaker 3: show now still to come that we know where Donald
31:29
Speaker 3: Trump's top priorities are.
31:30
Speaker 4: But what about Millennia.
31:32
Speaker 3: I'm going to let you know what the first Lady's
31:34
Speaker 3: plans are in the White House that's coming up, plus
31:37
Speaker 3: what we know about the grubs terrorizing the Jewish community.
31:40
Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus would joining me after this quick break, welcome back.
31:48
Speaker 8: Well.
31:49
Speaker 3: Police are under immense public pressure to catch the grubs,
31:53
Speaker 3: the animals, the bastards, as Chris min said, responsible for
31:58
Speaker 3: terrorizing the Jewish community, and they're finally starting to make
32:02
Speaker 3: some arrests. And to discuss further, let's bring in Sky
32:05
Speaker 3: New Senior reporter Caroline Marcus. Caroline, police have had a
32:09
Speaker 3: breakthrough in the investigation into the anti Semitic attack at
32:13
Speaker 3: the Newtown's Synagogue. I spoke about this earlier in the show.
32:16
Speaker 3: You were in court today.
32:17
Speaker 4: What can you tell us about one of the men
32:20
Speaker 4: behind this.
32:22
Speaker 17: Well, Adam Edward Mole is the thirty three year old man.
32:25
Speaker 17: But police arrested overnight after executing two search warrants at
32:31
Speaker 17: addresses in Camperdown, which is also in the Inner West
32:34
Speaker 17: like the Newtown's Synagogue. Now two men had been captured
32:38
Speaker 17: on CCTV.
32:39
Speaker 4: At the time, Shari and they were.
32:41
Speaker 17: Captured pouring a clear liquid onto the synagogue as well
32:48
Speaker 17: as spray painting graffiti, painting graffiti of swastikas around the
32:55
Speaker 17: perimeter of the synagogue. It was Adam Mole that police
32:59
Speaker 17: picked up and he came before the courts today. He's
33:02
Speaker 17: been charged with a number of offenses including attempting to
33:06
Speaker 17: set the synagogue alight, as well as a number of
33:09
Speaker 17: other different lesser charges. But he didn't make an application
33:16
Speaker 17: for bail. We didn't even see him in court. He
33:18
Speaker 17: didn't come up from the docks in custody. It was refused.
33:22
Speaker 17: His matter will return to court tomorrow, but police say
33:25
Speaker 17: they're pretty confident that they are going to make a
33:28
Speaker 17: second arrest in this case very soon.
33:30
Speaker 4: Now.
33:31
Speaker 17: It's not the only matter that was in the court
33:33
Speaker 17: courts in the past couple of days. There was also
33:36
Speaker 17: someone who was sentenced over the alighting of a fire
33:42
Speaker 17: of a Bond Eye business called Curly Lewis Brewery, and
33:45
Speaker 17: that was as you mentioned in your editorial, it happened
33:49
Speaker 17: in October last year. Police think it was a case
33:51
Speaker 17: of mistaken identity that they really meant to target the
33:55
Speaker 17: Kosher Delhi with a very similar name, which happened three
34:00
Speaker 17: days later. So that person appeared in court yesterday and
34:06
Speaker 17: Sutherland Local Court in South Sydney and he was given
34:09
Speaker 17: this pathetic sentence of ten months, only ten months for
34:14
Speaker 17: setting a light a business that could have led to injuries,
34:18
Speaker 17: deaths significant damage. The fire ended up self extinguishing within
34:24
Speaker 17: a minute. It still caused tens of thousands of dollars
34:27
Speaker 17: worth of damage. But even the Premier Christmins said today
34:30
Speaker 17: that New South Wales Police will be appealing that sentence
34:33
Speaker 17: because the crime carries a maximum of ten years and
34:38
Speaker 17: yet this person will be eligible for parole as soon
34:42
Speaker 17: as this August for this kind of crime. He's co
34:45
Speaker 17: accused also pleaded guilty in court. He's yet to be sentenced,
34:51
Speaker 17: but certainly the Premier is pushing for a much tougher
34:54
Speaker 17: sentence on this. How about insurrent ten months for that's
34:58
Speaker 17: ound offense.
34:58
Speaker 3: Well, this is why Peter day And says, you know,
35:00
Speaker 3: it's not just about the policing, but it's about the
35:03
Speaker 3: judiciary and the sentencing as well. And so Darton's saying, well,
35:06
Speaker 3: you do need minimum mandatory sentences because and it's an
35:11
Speaker 3: issue that Gillian Siegel raised as well, the antisemitism envoy,
35:15
Speaker 3: that in some cases people are just getting off scott
35:19
Speaker 3: free and we do need to see serious charges, not
35:22
Speaker 3: just because it reflects the serious nature of the crime,
35:25
Speaker 3: but as a deterrent as well. Carolyne, just before I
35:28
Speaker 3: ask you about some other issues, I want to go
35:30
Speaker 3: back to gain I spoke about this in the editorial.
35:33
Speaker 3: This is a woman who was charged in relation to
35:35
Speaker 3: one of the Willara anti Semitic attacks, and I thought
35:39
Speaker 3: it was extraordinary that she actually posted on social media
35:43
Speaker 3: that she was looking for a jerry can the day
35:46
Speaker 3: before the alleged attack.
35:48
Speaker 4: What did you think about that?
35:52
Speaker 17: Look, this was incredible. And she not only allegedly posted
35:56
Speaker 17: this request, I mean, this very suspicious looking request you'd
35:59
Speaker 17: have to say to one Facebook community group. She posted
36:03
Speaker 17: it to several the day before the alleged attack. So
36:07
Speaker 17: she actually ended up being caught with apparently five jerry cans.
36:12
Speaker 17: So it seems perhaps the request was successful. I don't
36:15
Speaker 17: know that hasn't come before the court yet, but she
36:17
Speaker 17: certainly made that extremely public. Now it's quite a bizarre case.
36:22
Speaker 17: She's a mother of five, Tammy Ferugia. She posted this
36:26
Speaker 17: request very publicly, and she was arrested and charged and
36:32
Speaker 17: is facing court over spray painting a number of vehicles
36:36
Speaker 17: and properties with kill Israel. Israel's felt incorrectly as well.
36:41
Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say these.
36:43
Speaker 17: Aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but yet they
36:46
Speaker 17: are very serious crimes. A car was torched in that
36:49
Speaker 17: incident in Walara as well last month. And look, she'll
36:52
Speaker 17: face the court over that.
36:54
Speaker 3: All right, let's have a look at the national cabinet
36:56
Speaker 3: that Albanezi held yesterday afternoon, Peter, but Darton told me
37:01
Speaker 3: last night that this was just a box ticking exercise.
37:05
Speaker 15: And yet it's taken him fifteen months to get to
37:07
Speaker 15: this point. Fourteen months to get to this point, and
37:11
Speaker 15: he does it without any fanfare. Or he had a
37:16
Speaker 15: press conference with the premier this morning, made no mention
37:19
Speaker 15: of it, and holds it this afternoon. I think just
37:22
Speaker 15: to tick the.
37:23
Speaker 3: Box, Caroline, we've just got about thirty seconds. But he's right,
37:27
Speaker 3: isn't it. I mean he you know, Albanize could have
37:29
Speaker 3: sent out an agenda cord for submissions, had a proper,
37:33
Speaker 3: serious national cabinet.
37:35
Speaker 17: It was like it was an afterthought because it was
37:38
Speaker 17: mentioned during a press conference only when he was asked
37:41
Speaker 17: specifically about why there had been no national cabinet, and
37:44
Speaker 17: the answer he gave that people had been on leave. Look,
37:47
Speaker 17: it just didn't make sense, Shari, because ultimately people ended
37:50
Speaker 17: up zooming into that call anyway, so that could have
37:53
Speaker 17: happened while people were on leave. It didn't make sense.
37:56
Speaker 17: It's a knee jerk reaction. All that's come out of
37:58
Speaker 17: it is this national database. He's rejected the idea of
38:02
Speaker 17: mandatory minimum sentences, which actually could be a deterrent for
38:05
Speaker 17: these kinds of crimes.
38:06
Speaker 3: No, exactly, one hundred percent, Caroline Marcus, thank you so
38:09
Speaker 3: much for your reporting and for coming on the show.
38:12
Speaker 3: Now after the break, Millenia Trump is planning an agenda
38:16
Speaker 3: of her own.
38:17
Speaker 4: Will we'll talk.
38:18
Speaker 3: About what it'll be, and it looks like Trump Donald
38:21
Speaker 3: that is, won't be the only force of nature in
38:23
Speaker 3: the White House. Plus, the daughter of a man brutally
38:26
Speaker 3: murdered by one of the terrorists Israel has released as
38:30
Speaker 3: part of the hostage deal, will join me live later on.
38:34
Speaker 3: I'll ask her what she thinks of the price Israel
38:36
Speaker 3: is paying. Welcome back, Okay, Well, we've been covering so
38:44
Speaker 3: much quite frankly, deeply upsetting news this week that I
38:47
Speaker 3: thought it might be fun to delve into something a
38:50
Speaker 3: little bit lighter and happier for a minute. Donald Trump
38:53
Speaker 3: has returned to the White House, but his wife, Millenia
38:56
Speaker 3: is also forging her own path as first Lady. This
39:00
Speaker 3: interview with Fox News was fascinating. It showed her as
39:03
Speaker 3: a different type a first lady.
39:07
Speaker 18: I don't want to hire too many people on my
39:10
Speaker 18: team and spending too much taxpayer money. I want to
39:13
Speaker 18: make sure that every position they are talented, they have married,
39:19
Speaker 18: they know what they're doing and as well as their
39:24
Speaker 18: team player. They don't have own agenda. So they're serving me,
39:29
Speaker 18: they're serving my office, and they're serving the country.
39:33
Speaker 3: Okay with me now? Is the deputy editor of news
39:36
Speaker 3: dot Com, Liz Burke.
39:37
Speaker 4: Liz, great to see you again.
39:39
Speaker 3: Well, what can you tell us about what Milania has
39:41
Speaker 3: put forward as her own agenda for her time in
39:45
Speaker 3: the White House.
39:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, so she said that she's going to revive and
39:48
Speaker 10: continue basically what she started when she first moved in.
39:51
Speaker 10: So then, likes first ladies before her, she had her
39:54
Speaker 10: own office, she had her own team, and her key
39:57
Speaker 10: initiative was called the Be Best Campaign, and that was
40:01
Speaker 10: a public awareness campaign that was all about advocating against
40:06
Speaker 10: youth bullying, particularly cyber bullying. And you know, seeing the
40:11
Speaker 10: kind of criticism that she cops day in day out,
40:14
Speaker 10: we you know, we saw it everywhere yesterday. As much
40:16
Speaker 10: as she was celebrated and praised, she was also very
40:18
Speaker 10: much criticized. I think she's become quite a good authority
40:22
Speaker 10: on that. She did face I think some criticism in
40:26
Speaker 10: her first term, saying that she was perhaps not so
40:31
Speaker 10: present and perhaps not so successful in that initiative and
40:35
Speaker 10: other public initiatives as other first ladies. And she actually
40:38
Speaker 10: addressed that in that interview that we just saw an
40:41
Speaker 10: excerpt from, saying that she didn't have believes that she
40:44
Speaker 10: didn't have a great deal of support. I think that's from,
40:47
Speaker 10: you know, the preceding administration before that came before her,
40:51
Speaker 10: from the media, and you'd assume she's talking about some
40:54
Speaker 10: public figures as well, who you know, were reluctant to
40:57
Speaker 10: stand next to the Trumps. I think we've all already
41:00
Speaker 10: seen that support turn around quite a bit, you know,
41:02
Speaker 10: from the number of celebrities who turned out at the inauguration,
41:06
Speaker 10: in some in some cases performing at the at various
41:10
Speaker 10: inauguration events. So I think she's very much expecting that
41:14
Speaker 10: she's going to be able to make a bigger and
41:16
Speaker 10: a bigger impact this time around with that support.
41:19
Speaker 3: I think one fascinating thing that you can't imagine politicians
41:22
Speaker 3: in Australia doing is that both Millenia and Donald have
41:26
Speaker 3: his and her cryptocurrencies.
41:28
Speaker 4: What's what's this about?
41:29
Speaker 10: Looks it's certainly something that we've never seen from a
41:31
Speaker 10: first lady before, so she can say that she's the first,
41:34
Speaker 10: she's the first there. Yes, Donald Trump was the first
41:37
Speaker 10: to launch his own cryptocurrency yesterday that I think was
41:40
Speaker 10: just called donald you could call it donald Coin.
41:44
Speaker 4: Milania followed.
41:44
Speaker 10: They both, you know, were the shot up wildly in value.
41:48
Speaker 10: But these types of coins, they are what's known as
41:51
Speaker 10: a meme coin.
41:52
Speaker 4: It's it's a bit of fun.
41:54
Speaker 10: It's not really something that you would seriously invest in.
41:58
Speaker 10: If you did, you'd be pretty disappointed if you, you know,
42:01
Speaker 10: woke up today to see that value had like dropped
42:03
Speaker 10: quite significantly, even more disappointed next week.
42:06
Speaker 4: But it's a bit of fun.
42:07
Speaker 10: It's almost like buying an online souvenir for the inauguration
42:11
Speaker 10: or you know, a piece of merchandise. There are disclaimers
42:14
Speaker 10: on you know, on her website that says this isn't
42:16
Speaker 10: you know, a proper financial investmental security.
42:18
Speaker 3: But when I saw a journalist asked the president today
42:21
Speaker 3: about the crypto currency, he said, I wasn't really involved
42:24
Speaker 3: in it. And the journalist said, well, we've actually made
42:26
Speaker 3: a few billion dollars today.
42:28
Speaker 14: Yeah.
42:28
Speaker 10: I think at one point the market was you know,
42:30
Speaker 10: it has been valued at several billions. I just don't
42:33
Speaker 10: think that's something they's you know, sustainable. I'm not going
42:36
Speaker 10: to pretend to be. I'll leave that to Elon.
42:39
Speaker 4: No, that's true.
42:40
Speaker 3: Now, tell me about Milania's fashion statements of the inauguration.
42:45
Speaker 4: She had two main looks.
42:46
Speaker 3: One was this statement hat that I think we're going
42:49
Speaker 3: to show you now, and then she also stunned at
42:51
Speaker 3: the ball. Yeah, let's have a look at the hat.
42:53
Speaker 3: Tell us about this, Liz, and also her ball outfit.
42:56
Speaker 10: Yeah, you said a statement, and I think that's absolutely
42:59
Speaker 10: spot on. We were, you know, covering the event at
43:02
Speaker 10: news dot com dot au. We had someone from our
43:04
Speaker 10: lifestyle team especially come in to you know, to comment
43:07
Speaker 10: on her fashion. But no one was expecting the hat
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Speaker 10: to be, you know, to absolutely steal the show. It
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Speaker 10: was designed by a milliner called Eric Javitts, and he's
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Speaker 10: a bit of a milliner to the stars. His hats
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Speaker 10: have been seen on the heads of you know, Beyonce, Madonna,
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Speaker 10: those kind of celebrities. I think what's interesting is that
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Speaker 10: she actually seemed to have a fair bit of input
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Speaker 10: into that design. So her stylist was liaising very closely
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Speaker 10: with the milliner who created the hat, so they had
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Speaker 10: a fair bit of input. And I think she knew
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Speaker 10: that it would be controversial. She thinks she knew that
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Speaker 10: it would make such a statement, and so I think
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Speaker 10: I kind of like that. I think she's kind of
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Speaker 10: into it. She was anticipating the reaction and she just
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Speaker 10: owned the look.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, very stylish, But you would have wanted to.
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Speaker 3: I would have wanted to lift it the whole time
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Speaker 3: event to your husband's inauguration as president.
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Speaker 4: You can't see everything that's going on under the hat.
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Speaker 4: She couldn't see. She couldn't get via anyone. But you know, like, yeah,
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Speaker 4: I think she's not look shit cheek. Right, we're out
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Speaker 4: of time, Lisbek, thank you so much for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Now, don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 3: A daughter will join me, whose father's killer has now
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Speaker 3: been set free under the hostage deal. She has a
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Speaker 3: unique take and she'll join me after this quick break.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back.
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Speaker 3: Well, as you know, as part of the hostage deal,
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Speaker 3: nineteen hundred Palestinian terrorists and criminals will be released from
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Speaker 3: Israeli prisons among their murderers, terrorists, kidnappers. Now, like I've
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Speaker 3: said repeatedly, this is a very difficult deal. Israel had
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Speaker 3: to do a deal with the devil.
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Speaker 4: And no one knows this more than Maytel offer.
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Speaker 3: Her father was killed eleven years ago by her Musk terrorists,
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Speaker 3: and one of his murderers is set for release as
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Speaker 3: part of this first phase of the deal. And Maytel
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Speaker 3: joins me live now from Israel. Thank you so much
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Speaker 3: for your time. Look what was your reaction to the
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Speaker 3: news that your father's murderer was going to be set free.
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Speaker 4: Well, I was.
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Speaker 8: Quite shocked, but not very surprised because in Israel there
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Speaker 8: were many deals with terrorists. And after my father's murderer,
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Speaker 8: I asked the lawyer when they will released from prison,
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Speaker 8: and he told me, you know, they will sit at
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Speaker 8: least ten years and after October seventh. I understood that
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Speaker 8: this must have been done so all the hostages will
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Speaker 8: come back. So I think it's that that is the
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Speaker 8: most important thing. All the hostages must come back home.
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Speaker 8: And we are paying a very very high price with
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Speaker 8: this deal. And I'm not happy that he's setting free,
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Speaker 8: but my comfort is that the hostages and their families
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Speaker 8: will join back together.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the only good part, the only silver
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Speaker 3: lining of what truly is a horrific situation where we
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Speaker 3: have having all these harmus terists back on the streets.
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Speaker 4: May tell.
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Speaker 3: My understanding is that the families of the victims of
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Speaker 3: these terrorists are given about forty eight hours where they
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Speaker 3: can appeal the decision to Israel's Supreme Court. Did you
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Speaker 3: ever consider doing that or are you realistic about it?
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Speaker 4: And ultimately yeah, tell me you're thinking on that.
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Speaker 8: No, No, me and my siblings, we are five siblings,
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Speaker 8: We never thought of turning to the Supreme Court because
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Speaker 8: we thought this is the right way to do it.
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Speaker 8: And this is also my father's heritage. I think that
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Speaker 8: my father, if he was alive, he will also he
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Speaker 8: would also support.
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Speaker 16: This, this deal.
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Speaker 8: It's like you said, it's a deal with the devil,
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Speaker 8: and sorry, it's something that it must have been done,
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Speaker 8: so I don't I have no regrets and I have
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Speaker 8: no second thoughts about it. I know it's hard and
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Speaker 8: I know and I can also understand the families who
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Speaker 8: against this this deal, But I think that the most
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Speaker 8: important thing to our society, to the Israel of society
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Speaker 8: to heal from this wom that we heard from October
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Speaker 8: seven is that all the hostages will come back live
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Speaker 8: or dead.
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Speaker 3: And of course we are expecting hoping that another three
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Speaker 3: hostages will be released under this deal Saturday this week,
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Speaker 3: so let's hope that goes ahead. MATEL really appreciate your
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Speaker 3: time tonight, Thank you very much. That's all we've got
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Speaker 3: time for today. I'll be back on Monday. I'm working
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Speaker 3: on a special project tomorrow night, so tune in eight
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Speaker 3: o'clock Monday, but stay tuned right now.
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Speaker 4: Pom Mary's up