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While You Were Sleeping | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 24 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is a TC presents.
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  Their Bucky Rambles. Were a couple of friends review
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  Korean. Dramas and today, I am joined by
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  my very special friends. Nas Inori from the soul Sistas
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  podcast. Cast.
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  Oh my God I am so excited for you guys to finally be on the
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  podcast. I guess what, on your pod, not
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  too long ago for the business proposal episode, and that was
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  so much fun. So if I feels like a long time
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  coming like, you guys were meant to be on this podcast to as
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  guess, guess, hose. I adore you guys.
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  Definitely check out my now, if you haven't already, guys are
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  amazing. Um, I think if I just in case
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  people don't No, like, who you guys are?
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  Do you want to give like an intro and like, what's like your
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  favorite kdrama genres or like your favorite key drama?
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  If you guys want to do that, okay?
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  Now, if you want me to take a step and you fill it, you have.
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  You got to go. All right, so be, it has our
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  long story short, we fell in love with BTS separately,
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  somehow or another Nez randomly message me, me and her knew each
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  other from church. Long story we started quote talk
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  about BTS and the net. This is like, do you watch
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  kdramas? And I was like, yeah, I guess.
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  And by the time my first kdramas, my whole love.
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  I watch that. Don't remember it, but it's a
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  running joke on our podcast, I don't remember.
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  Um, but yeah. So me and her kind of bonded
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  over our love for. Hey, traumas.
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  And then a year later, we're like, oh, all of these kdramas,
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  we listen to ATC, listen to a lot of different of the kdrama
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  community. We were like, well, why don't we
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  do a podcast? And me and as for a couple
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  months, I kept saying that and nobody ever nobody, ever did
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  anything we do, you're serious. Yeah.
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  So almost you know, two years from that conversation where
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  podcast left but yes, my first one was my whole of first kdrama
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  don't remember it but will be re watching it but my Hollow love
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  is good. That's a good really good gay
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  job. That's what they tell me.
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  I don't remember. Yeah, you think that she didn't
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  watch the show at all like you would be untrue.
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  No memory of it at all. I'm like, why don't you remember
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  this person this scene? She's like, nope, I do not write
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  election. Oh man, all right now as yes.
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  Um, so my first kdrama was romance is a bonus book.
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  That's the way I got introduced to eat junk sucks leaving a
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  special place in my heart because of that show.
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  Yeah, that's my first. Man, like I don't know.
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  I was it was love at first sight with kdramas from that point.
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  I was like, I love this, I'm never leaving.
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  Like, I literally only want to watch kdramas.
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  It was I just loved it so much. So yeah, that was my first one.
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  Okay. Yeah.
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  You jung-sook in that is very cute.
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  It's a Noona romance. And yes, I'll tell you.
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  There is a bit of a scathing review blog review from myself
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  Yours, Truly, on the site because mostly because I have a
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  background in publishing. And so all like the publishing
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  stuff that happens in that Joe I'm like this is bullshit.
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  Like I was like Miriam. It's like they're
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  misrepresenting the industry like this is nonsense.
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  So yeah, I'm sorry guys. It was that's what feels like a
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  personal thing or just like it was like not accurate and I do
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  it. Yeah, like I don't know.
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  I was it wasn't it wasn't for me.
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  But anyway, I'm gonna do a little bit.
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  I did do a little bit of housekeeping, real fast, is it?
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  Okay, yay. Okay.
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  So now we're going to get going on this drama, we all watched
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  while you were sleeping. Yay.
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  Okay. Then rocker timing finally.
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  Finally. Okay.
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  Yeah, no, because everyone's talked about this drama for to
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  no end and I feel like I've been left Now yeah, saying how you
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  watch this drama, so I'll sure why I didn't why I avoided it
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  after like all the stuff I'm about to say.
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  So I'll read the synopsis, get to the cast and all that and
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  then we can share our thoughts on While You Were Sleeping.
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  Okay? The my drama listen office
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  reads, a young woman with a with bad.
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  Premonition dreams meets two people who suddenly develop the
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  same ability namjoo lives with her mother.
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  A widow who runs a small restaurant jung-jae chime a
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  rookie prosecutor and his Younger brother move in across
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  the street. Since Hong, Joo was young.
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  She has had the ability to see the good and bad events before
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  they happen. However, she is unable to do
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  anything about them. One day dish on has a strange
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  premonition dream about an accident involving Hong Joo and
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  bu bum, a ruthless attorney. Who used to be John's tutor did
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  tend to science to interfere in the course of events and ends up
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  saving the lives of Hangzhou. And Han will talk a young police
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  officer when Jetton hanju and woo Tak, then start having
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  dreams about one another. They realize that their Now,
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  somehow, entwined, but can the three discovered the reason that
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  they were brought together and can they prevent the people
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  closest to them from getting hurt?
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  I don't know. We'll find out.
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  Okay, our medic reading about us.
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  Yes, I love the dramatic. Do you, this was really long,
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  I'm sorry. That was the episode 1.
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  All right, so while you were sleeping, originally aired from
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  September to November 2017. It's 16 episodes long as
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  directed by. By Autumn wine and he's directed
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  a bunch of stuff, including my love from the star dr.
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  Hotel de luna startup and currently Big Mouth, starring
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  Lee Jung Suk of course. So currently airing drama it is
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  gu it's thundering outside. I hope you don't hear that
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  anyway. Um, It Is co-directed by Park
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  soojin and she's directed. Why her doctor romantic and they
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  co-directed doctors together from 2016.
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  While You Were Sleeping, it was written by pocket.
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  Yeah. And she wrote startup, she wrote
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  Pinocchio, she wrote, I can hear your voice from 2013 and she
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  wrote Dream High from 2011. I've talked about dream, I like
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  in almost every of these, it comes up a lot so much.
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  Why? I don't know.
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  Wow, I'm not going to Trend. Yes.
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  So basically, this writer and these directors have worked
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  together before startup, doctors and Dream.
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  High of course, like a couple of Dramas already star.
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  Bae Suzy and she stars as not hongju, she was in start-up, she
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  was in a Dream High, Gu Family, Book, control of uncontrollably
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  fond bag of on a bunch of stuff, we covered start up on season 2
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  of the box. So if you want to scroll back in
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  your podcast feed, you can hear our thoughts about that.
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  I had Curtis from the infatuation podcast on for that
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  one and he was a little bit contentious.
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  So just beware that when he looks out that was a fun
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  episode. You think the Devil's Advocate a
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  lot and was like, you don't need to do this he's like I want to
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  make it more interesting. I'm like why do you say that?
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  Yeah. And then of course, when you
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  while you were sleeping also Stars e jung-suk, we've
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  mentioned him before he plays Drunk Kitchen, and he's been in.
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  I can hear your voice from 2013, you just rented it out.
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  One Doctor, Stranger Pinocchio, W which we cover on season one
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  of the podcast. Last romance is a bonus book,
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  your first kdrama and he's currently starring in Big Mouth.
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  I'm not sure when that was gonna end but it's 2022 show.
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  Yeah, we got some supporting characters, I'll run through
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  really fast. We have junk Haines as Hannah
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  attack. That's off a be loved him.
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  Yeah, he's had a really good few years here, he's been in
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  Snowdrop DP, one spring night. Something in the rain prison
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  Playbook. I'll have you know that if you
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  scroll back and your podcast feed you can hear Thoughts on
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  Prison Playbook because we just covered that one.
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  Also with Curtis also with Curtis from infatuation.
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  We've also done something in the rain review.
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  Yeah. Also one season two.
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  That's one. That one's with Caitlin from no
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  sleep for dramas and those have been really fun.
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  Oh my God, we've also covered Snowdrop.
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  That was the first episode of season 3 so don't forget.
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  Anyway, in case you guys don't know, we're like a drunken
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  podcast now. It literally did not intend to
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  cover this much drug and dramas, but here we are.
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  So yeah, he's amazing. So I not.
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  Yes. So we also have Eastern Europe,
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  as you bomb the attorney that we mentioned in the synopsis, we
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  have chem 1A as investigator Choi and he's the nation's
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  largest, she like he really is wonderful, man.
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  I'd love to meet him someday. Yeah, I've been in everything so
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  a few things I'll mention He wasn't start up as well so you
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  can again. Something we've covered, he's
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  been in strong girl doubling soon.
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  We also covered that on the podcast, he's been in wat Ong,
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  youth of May. He's been in Signal, which we
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  covered as well in season one of the podcast.
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  So we got it. We've also become a human, a
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  podcast last person I'll say is call Sony plays protion Sheehan.
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  Heymann is her full name in the drama and she's the star of my
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  Hallo love. Hey Ari.
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  I asked or y'all she remembered her.
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  I was like, that's the main girl from my whole of, don't you
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  remember? And she was like, you know, I
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  don't remember sorry. Okay.
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  So this was my whole love pour my little old.
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  I feel so bad for her because it's a very good drama and she
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  doesn't miss really not. Yeah.
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  Okay. So all this being said, we've
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  come to the end of our Cast and whoever's behind the lens.
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  What did you guys think of while you were sleeping?
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  Now, as you can see, we don't have to go all at once.
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  It's okay, okay, I'll go first. Okay, yeah.
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  So okay, so I thought the show was good.
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  I thought the show was good. I would definitely recommend it
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  to people. Okay, it has all the things that
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  I like to see in a kdrama because it has it has comedy.
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  As drama has like a Sprinkle of romance.
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  I also loved like the I guess like the episodic nature of it,
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  like every few episodes, your kind of exploring like a new
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  situation and a new story. I really like it when dramas do
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  that. And of course like I thought the
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  cast was so good and on the cast had like really great chemistry
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  with each other, but yeah, I thought was a really good show.
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  I would definitely recommend it. It's just I felt like as the
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  show's. Yeah.
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  But as the show went on I think that things did start to waver a
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  little bit. Like in the middle things kind
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  of started to kind of come apart a little bit for me personally
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  and I'll go into that like deeper later.
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  But yeah, like, I'm really glad I watched it though because it
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  was always on my list was like, you guys know was watching
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  kdramas? Your list is ever growing.
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  It's always growing. And it's like, you know, like
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  when am I ever going to be able to get to these older shows?
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  And there's newer shows current shows on watching and it's just
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  like it's like a never-ending existential crisis situation
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  like I'm never going to watch everything.
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  I want to see you. So I'm really happy I watching.
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  You asked us to come on and you know, review it.
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  But yeah. I definitely have some thoughts
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  like the intricacies of the Good.
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  Yes, no. I have thoughts as well.
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  We don't have thoughts Lori. What did you say?
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  So I watch, I started watching this in May before you asked us
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  and I was just, you know, in my freedom phase of kdrama.
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  I don't know what that means, but I still really watching it.
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  And I watched the first two episodes and as talk, she asked
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  me, like, what do you think? I'm just like, it's okay.
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  I'll get to it eventually. So, um, when just asked us to
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  come on the podcast, I'm like, okay.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I'll go back to watching
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  it and now I see why I didn't like continue watching it.
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  It's not my favorite drama y'all.
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  I'm just going to say that right now and we'll get into why
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  later. I did like seeing Han for 16
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  plus h because I'm gonna come and I did like the mean romance,
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  but I it was not an enjoyable watch for me and whenever we get
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  to sold you bottle readings, Minds isn't hi.
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  Okay, so I'll jump in here and give my general thoughts on the
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  show. I thought this show was going to
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  be amazing. Just baked yam the first episode
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  because same, I want a new episode.
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  Holy shit. This is amazing.
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  Yeah, good, right. Yeah.
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  It had so much, like, momentum and potential and I had the
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  tension going throughout it and you can sense the Romantic, you
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  know, couple like happening. And it just felt right like it
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  hit all the right notes and beat in the first episode.
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  Perfect. First episode, perfect villain,
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  like whatever and then it kept going and I was like, hmm.
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  I don't know about this show like, actually, I think that I
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  wasn't bought into Susie, and jong-seok as a couple.
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  Oh, my goodness, Jess. Thank you.
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  Wait. I was so nervous and I love
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  these ideas to talk about. Okay.
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  Okay. I don't think it's a secret that
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  Susie and jungkook's characters are supposed to be endgame, like
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  they're supposed to be together. Oh, yeah, you're the romantic
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  leads, right? So you kind of go into it.
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  You can't sense that this is where the writers are, the
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  writer wants to take it and then like a few episodes in.
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  I'm like, why do they like each other?
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  Right. You know, like I was like
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  where's the basis of? Like they're like love like why
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  does he actually a give her the time of day because she's just
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  seems so not delusional, but delusional like she's making it
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  seem like he's like after her and he's like doesn't want to
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  yeah do with her. So it goes from that to like 0
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  to 60 he like loves her. Yeah so it didn't seem
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  believable to me and that's saying something when it's a
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  fantasy show about like them having a premonition dream,
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  Eames and clear. So right, I thought they had a
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  really good villain and he kind of sold the last few episodes
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  for me because lutely, he was like a recurring like villain in
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  all of these episodic trials and cases that they're trying to
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  solve together and then it's like, like, where's the through
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  line? Like, how does this wrap up an
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  end? Like how does he get his
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  comeuppance and all that stuff? Like that comes into play final,
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  few episodes. So so, for most of the show's,
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  trying to recast Susie because I hated Susie in this role, oh, I
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  was like, so, I just think late this row.
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  Sing her Praises so hard in the startup episode.
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  I was actually kind of impressive like with Susie in
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  this episode is show then I get to the show.
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  And I'm like, why is Susie can like, it's just Susie like all I
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  could see was Susie and I couldn't see her character
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  hyungju, and I feel like she was just overpowering, you know, her
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  presence was just so overpowering in the show, her
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  celebrity was Whirring and I wanted someone with less like
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  baggage, you know, hmm. And like I just didn't like her
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  delivery of certain things that just seem like she wasn't doing
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  anything different and she has that like when she gets very
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  excited or whatever she always has the same Cadence for her
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  lunches. Oh yeah, look at that.
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  Yeah, like it's always been that Cadence.
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  Yeah, it's very excited. If she's upset or whatever and
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  I'm like, oh, that's like such a Susie is Like I don't want that
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  anymore, so I was very distraught by her and I recast
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  it in my head to maybe Han Sol é, from my name, or
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  nevertheless, like diarrhea dress because I wanted something
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  a little harder for the character because she's seen so
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  much, you know, right in her dreams and she has this guilt.
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  Mm, she puts blame on herself and so I'm like, I want to see a
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  little more of that tortured. Like Persona versus she's very
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  like happy-go-lucky sometimes and like, yeah, thanks things
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  lie. Very well and is very bubbly and
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  like I kind of want a little bit of a darker, more personality,
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  more Edge to her. Exactly.
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  So I thought upon solely or confetti.
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  Who does a really good job? Balancing both the light and
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  dark aspects of this character, which I was like, I think we
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  need someone with like that Vibe.
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  You know, that was my recasting that I For Susie.
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  Yeah, that I have a question. So you guys so comparing Susie's
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  character and start up to while you're sleeping.
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  What did you guys think? Because for me, they seem like
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  the same person exactly. Then I think that's what was
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  like throwing me off. Like yes, I forgot her name
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  wasn't startup but oh, it's okay, whatever, excuse me and
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  Steph. Yes, and Susan startup and
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  Susie. While you were sleeping.
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  I was a psych. There's I feel like there's the
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  same character. Yeah.
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  And that. Throwing me off as well, and I'm
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  like, but I felt differently if I had like some time, like a
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  little bit more time between when I saw start up and I saw
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  this or if I never saw startup. So I was thinking about that
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  too. When you guys, you guys see any
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  similarities? Can you say the same thing about
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  jong-suk though? Because I was telling you, how
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  his romance and it's a bonus book.
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  Condo was the same character to me, like the jokey and then like
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  really serious. But I don't know if that's just
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  how he the characters already. I'll save it.
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  Yeah. So I'll say this that I think
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  that he is doing much the same as some of his other characters
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  that he starred in and I'll say this that it's they're not
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  demanding much of these two actors, right?
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  I'm sure like there's nuances to every character and this plot
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  like goes gets very thin and then gets very thick at times
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  and it's right. No, a revolving door of
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  characters and scenarios that they have to overcome.
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  But on the whole, they're not flexing anything that we haven't
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  seen before, you know, right? The same sort of like a script
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  for a fantasy Romance. Take a drama like if feels like
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  beefer be a little bit like w. It feels a little bit like you
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  know, Susie stuff as well like startup.
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  Yeah. And I don't think it's a
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  coincidence because we're good we got the same writer from
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  startup we have yeah Dame one of the same directors from startup
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  as well, right? So like they're playing to
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  Susie's strains but at the same time we've seen this strength
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  already, right? Right.
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  Yeah. So I feel bad.
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  And again, like he you don't look as currently starring in
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  Big Mouth. Which again one of the directors
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  is on Big Mouth. True.
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  So yeah, there it's like too much like intertwining that it
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  doesn't feel they collaborate a lot.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  They've collaborated with these people many times before so and
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  I will say that, I feel bad that we saw start up first because
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  this came before start of this can be very wary for start-up,
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  right? So if we had seen it in order, I
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  kind of still feel Like we'd probably say the same thing that
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  we'd be like I'm not really sure like why she's playing the same
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  character feels like the same thing and yeah I think it's done
• 20:59
  on purpose. Like they want this Vibe
• 21:02
  playing. Yeah.
• 21:02
  Playing to the strength. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:04
  That's a good point. That's a good point though.
• 21:08
  It was only. I've only seen romances one
• 21:09
  spoke, of course. But I felt like this role.
• 21:12
  I saw more sides to him. Like I saw likes it like, you
• 21:16
  know, like especially like the Comedic side of him because I
• 21:19
  didn't see like I'm a lot of that bonus book.
• 21:21
  Something. Oh, I didn't know they could be
• 21:23
  so loose and silly. Yeah, he's a little, you know?
• 21:25
  Yeah, yeah. So I was just like, oh, that's
• 21:27
  new. So, okay, but it is like there
• 21:30
  are elements of like, you know, his character here that are
• 21:32
  similar to most visible in this book, but I guess that's why
• 21:34
  those directors really like them because it seems like they've
• 21:36
  done a lot of like projects with those two actors and what they
• 21:39
  really like Susie and you don't suck a lot big mouth.
• 21:43
  I haven't seen any of the episodes but in the promos and
• 21:45
  some of the clips that I've seen he is Seen that like really
• 21:49
  harsh dark, you know, vengeful kind of character with the more
• 21:54
  goofy light side of a character. So right, he's doing again, like
• 21:59
  the same thing that he's doing in this show.
• 22:02
  I'm big mouth came out. Oh my God, I can't do math,
• 22:05
  three, four, five, five years. It's coming off five years after
• 22:08
  right, while you were sleeping, right?
• 22:11
  Yeah. This is a conversation to have
• 22:13
  because I feel like people if they like startup or if they
• 22:16
  like one of these other dramas you can come to this drama and
• 22:19
  get more of the same. Yes.
• 22:21
  Right. But if you're like us or
• 22:24
  probably wanting something a little different, and I think
• 22:26
  that's what we're getting at here.
• 22:28
  Is that we weren't thrilled? We weren't surprised.
• 22:31
  We weren't, you know, given a New Journey, right?
• 22:36
  It's just act leap. Actually, it's a repast exactly
• 22:39
  I think that's that's where like the I guess on the
• 22:41
  discontentment is it's just kind of like, all right.
• 22:44
  It's kind of more of the same type of thing.
• 22:46
  Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, question that has nothing
• 22:50
  to do with the plot. Well, so kind of to do with the
• 22:52
  plot. Did you have you guys ever had a
• 22:54
  vivid dream and what was it? Oh, and or to, you know,
• 23:02
  piggyback off that question. Have you ever had a dream that
• 23:04
  actually came true? Oh, oh, a really good question.
• 23:11
  I'll go first because I, you know, I have a question in the
• 23:13
  back of my head hurt. Ya.
• 23:15
  So I had a friend. This hadn't happened to me, but
• 23:17
  a friend of mine. Was like good friends with
• 23:19
  another with another girl and she dreamt that the girl with
• 23:23
  was pregnant and she liked hanging out hung out with her.
• 23:26
  Not too long. After the dream was like man I
• 23:27
  had this really Vivid dream that you told me that you were
• 23:29
  pregnant and the friend was like oh and she was pregnant.
• 23:35
  Wow! Amazing!
• 23:37
  I mean, I don't know what she likes sniffed at how she sniffed
• 23:39
  it out, how it happened. But like it cause it was true.
• 23:43
  I have never had a dream come true on me.
• 23:46
  I would freak out if I ever did, but I tend to have very vivid
• 23:51
  dreams and, and when I have them, I just like, blurt them
• 23:55
  out, like, whatever it was, and then I completely forget about
• 23:57
  the dreams. So I went to my sister, I was
• 23:59
  like, I have told you every single crazy dream that I've
• 24:01
  had, like, what were your favorites and she listed two of
• 24:04
  them. So one is very quick.
• 24:07
  I don't know why we were sleeping in the same bed that
• 24:09
  night but I was, she was like, I woke, we woke up.
• 24:12
  But, you know, in the morning. Like, man, I had this crazy
• 24:14
  dream and she was like, what was it?
• 24:16
  And I was like, I lost my retainers, she does work.
• 24:19
  Where did you lose them? She does.
• 24:22
  And I go on the Titanic. My Vivid dream was that, I lost
• 24:30
  my retainers on the Titanic Titanic.
• 24:34
  They're sitting at the bottom of it like of the Atlantic.
• 24:38
  And then the other dream that I really like, and she reminded me
• 24:42
  of was, I told her this whole freaking dream that I had.
• 24:46
  I watched this Steve Aoki documentary, you know the hmm.
• 24:50
  Oh yeah. Yeah, whatever.
• 24:51
  Hmm producer. So Steve Aoki documentary it was
• 24:54
  very interesting and then I went to sleep that night.
• 24:57
  I dreamt this really really intense Vivid dream where Steve
• 25:00
  Aoki was my cousin and we went to his house.
• 25:03
  It was me and my sister we went to his house to like hang out in
• 25:07
  space. And all of a sudden he was
• 25:08
  having this big party and they were like buses out front like,
• 25:11
  bringing people in and taking people away.
• 25:13
  And I was like, I don't think we should stay here.
• 25:14
  Like it's to like, essentially we were leaving because it was
• 25:17
  like too much going on. And he and Steve Aoki was
• 25:20
  literally about was like, where you guys going?
• 25:22
  Like, whatever? And I woke up and the feeling
• 25:25
  was still within me. Like, deep-set.
• 25:27
  I was like, 60, I woke up and I thought Steve Aoki is my cousin,
• 25:31
  like, literally, I was like Steve Aoki like Evernote.
• 25:37
  To my mind. So so this data do I need to
• 25:42
  call in some Street? Like could this actually be
• 25:45
  okay? There's like zero chance.
• 25:49
  It's okay based on this stupid dream I had
• 26:05
  and I recall it like even now Like, I have this deep feeling
• 26:10
  that I have, but I'm cousins with teriyaki.
• 26:15
  I do not like I'm actually crying.
• 26:20
  Oh my God. Okay Ari while NASA finishes
• 26:23
  great for covering. Yeah you have a dream.
• 26:26
  If y'all, I mean I feel like you guys probably already knows
• 26:29
  about me from listening to the podcast.
• 26:30
  I don't have really good memory, but I feel like, I'm like the
• 26:35
  same. Like, you just like if I listen
• 26:37
  to something before I go to sleep, I don't like dream about
• 26:39
  it. So I think me and as our own
• 26:42
  like a 17 K-pop Those spills I would have, I would listen to
• 26:47
  their music and then like, just something random with them like
• 26:50
  eat it. Nothing involving each any
• 26:52
  members, but it will be like, I'm listening to their song in
• 26:54
  my dream and then, I'll wake up something really weird.
• 26:57
  But I haven't, I don't think I've had anything come true or
• 27:00
  like anything that I really vividly.
• 27:02
  Remember though, ding. Yeah.
• 27:05
  All right, Nancy. Do you have a meat for me?
• 27:10
  Honestly, my dreams like I can't really point to one dream
• 27:14
  because I just my dreams are so random and they just don't
• 27:17
  really make any sense. It's like a lot of scene changes
• 27:20
  and just like flying and like honestly, like just weird stuff
• 27:27
  that I don't know where it comes from the morning.
• 27:29
  I'm like, what was that? Like, I honestly my just have
• 27:33
  weird random dreams like, and I, I can't point to one in
• 27:36
  particular that I'm like, hmm, um, I'm trying to think of what
• 27:40
  I dreamt about last week. I'll say one last week, but no,
• 27:45
  yeah, yeah, go for it. Okay, this is another stupid
• 27:48
  dream. So this was when I was like a
• 27:50
  teenager, I think, and I was playing guitar at the time and I
• 27:55
  in my dream, I was trying to get my guitar case with my guitar,
• 27:57
  in it, into the trunk of my car, and I had a Mazda 3 at the time.
• 28:00
  So it was like kind of a little bit, had to shimmy it in because
• 28:03
  we yeah, bigoted are in the smoker anyway and someone came
• 28:08
  to help me and it was Bill Murray, Bill Murray came out of
• 28:11
  nowhere and was Like I let me help you put your guitar in
• 28:15
  your, in your car house. And in my dream, I was like, oh
• 28:17
  my God, you're bilberry. And I was so excited and I took
• 28:21
  a selfie with Bill Murray in my dream and when I woke up, I was
• 28:25
  like, oh shit. I gotta send that selfie to,
• 28:28
  like all my friends and family that I met Bill Murray because
• 28:31
  it was so deep like the incestuous, so deep that I was
• 28:34
  like item. I met Bill Murray and I took a
• 28:38
  selfie with him. So I went a literally went in my
• 28:41
  phone. I was like looking for the
• 28:42
  selfie. And I was like, oh no!
• 28:44
  Oh my God! It was a dream.
• 28:46
  Like I literally get the calm down was so harsh because I
• 28:50
  thought I had met Bill Murray and so this day like I think
• 28:54
  that dream was to real. Like it was too Vivid because
• 28:56
  you know how Bill Murray like is like effervescent and like goes
• 28:58
  wherever he wants it shows up, I hate weddings and stuff like
• 29:01
  randomly so it was it's like within reason that like Bill
• 29:05
  Murray would have been like in his parking lot that I was
• 29:07
  trying to get my guitar in the car and I was sweet.
• 29:10
  But did you were you watching something with him in it?
• 29:13
  No Bill Murray up here. A drink.
• 29:16
  There was no provocation just I was here.
• 29:21
  I teach my beard anyway we've gone on a little bit of a danger
• 29:24
  but that's okay. I initiated it.
• 29:27
  Do you guys I felt like this show reminded me of like other
• 29:31
  TV shows and movies that had like a similar plot line.
• 29:34
  Do you, I was trying to like figure it out.
• 29:36
  So here's what I came up with. Okay, okay.
• 29:40
  Okay. These are cells.
• 29:46
  Okay, other TV or TV shows and movies about premonition /
• 29:52
  dreams. So, we have, yeah, the movie
• 29:54
  Premonition with Sandy right in Tripoli, right?
• 29:57
  I was thinking about that. Yeah, she's yeah, we have
• 29:59
  butterfly effect with Ashton Kutcher and give me Smee that
• 30:04
  movie, scary them, that movie F me up.
• 30:07
  Okay? Okay, I can't see we have That's
• 30:12
  So Raven. Just teach me.
• 30:15
  Oh my gosh. Classic.
• 30:20
  We have the character Alice Cullen from Twilight who can see
• 30:24
  into the future. Oh yes.
• 30:27
  That's that's his favorite movie.
• 30:28
  Yeah. Favor we had our he's okay.
• 30:34
  She hates it. Just wasn't like it was like oh
• 30:40
  shit. We'll leave that at the.
• 30:46
  Abel. So yay.
• 30:47
  We have also Minority Report which is like a dystopian future
• 30:53
  with Tom Cruise where he's like, yeah.
• 30:56
  Arresting people. Based on crimes, they haven't
• 30:58
  committed yet because the precogs and all that crap, like
• 31:01
  it's like really interesting but already were then the last two I
• 31:06
  like, couldn't stop laughing as I wrote them down.
• 31:08
  So I'm going to try and get through this without laughing we
• 31:11
  have next with Nicolas Cage. And Jessica Biel Okay, ever seen
• 31:18
  that movie. Good, don't watch it, don't
• 31:19
  watch it. It's okay.
• 31:21
  So he can see a few minutes into the future, but he's a magician
• 31:26
  in Las Vegas. Like that's how he uses his
• 31:28
  skill. But with Jessica Biel's
• 31:31
  character, the, you know, female leader, whatever, he can see
• 31:34
  farther into the future. And like all of this stuff
• 31:38
  happens where he's trying to like stop an apocalypse.
• 31:41
  Oh gosh, I have feelings about Nicolas Cage, movies, Literally
• 31:48
  the worst movie but I remember because it was so stupid, right?
• 31:53
  It was so like dumb. And then I, lastly, I have Déjà
• 31:58
  Vu with Denzel Washington. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 32:04
  We're he like just I have wacky time.
• 32:06
  Oh yes, for sure. What do you have Final
• 32:09
  Destination? Because that movie and all of
• 32:12
  them. Oh my God.
• 32:13
  Right? Yeah.
• 32:14
  Right. I cannot go past the truck on
• 32:16
  the highway. Because of that movie.
• 32:18
  Yeah, I think much like a one and a half of the because it's
• 32:21
  like they have like multiple movies in that franchise like
• 32:24
  the Final Destination franchise and they're all like really
• 32:28
  gruesome crazy ass. Yeah.
• 32:31
  That they have a good one Oriel. That's good.
• 32:34
  It traumatized. Okay.
• 32:36
  Perfect. Okay, is there anything else
• 32:39
  that you want to add before I talk about the osce and then we
• 32:41
  can give our scores. No, thanks.
• 32:44
  Oh ok. Ok.
• 32:46
  So I love this osc. I don't know how you guys feel
• 32:48
  about the and see what. I love it.
• 32:50
  It has actually two songs from Susie and two songs from each
• 32:53
  jung-sook on the OST. Oh I don't know that he's saying
• 32:58
  to me. Yeah.
• 33:00
  And then my favorite song is the one from Henry which is all in
• 33:03
  English. Oh Henry.
• 33:06
  That was your the right time at the right time.
• 33:11
  Okay. Okay, okay.
• 33:11
  I like that one. So yeah, I love it.
• 33:18
  And I will like, actually say that when the song came on.
• 33:21
  The first time I was like, God, this sounds like Henry and then
• 33:25
  I go look in the OSU on Spotify and I was like, yes it's
• 33:28
  actually Henry. Like damn, I'm so good.
• 33:36
  The city was built that boys. All right.
• 33:42
  What did you guys give this show out of five Soju bottles.
• 33:48
  Um, okay, so I did 3.5 out of 5 Soju bottles.
• 33:53
  Okay, okay. Um, yeah, so I thought it was a
• 33:57
  good show, I just didn't think it was a great show and like you
• 34:00
  said, Jess, the first two episodes for me, I was like,
• 34:04
  wow. Like this is I don't remember
• 34:06
  what episode of our podcast were.
• 34:08
  I'm talking about, it were real but like we're talking about how
• 34:10
  we like just started the show and I'm just like, wow.
• 34:12
  Like this is the best show ever. Like the first two episodes I
• 34:15
  was like, this is amazing. Like this is going to be one of
• 34:17
  my favorite shows. I No it and then like as things
• 34:20
  went on, I was like huh? Okay.
• 34:24
  And I was kind of bummed because I was expecting just of
• 34:26
  expecting more. I was going to war but the
• 34:29
  things they did well they did really well.
• 34:33
  Yeah but yeah. Like I definitely have some
• 34:36
  qualms but like I like I thought it was like a good child think.
• 34:40
  It's a great show. It's not like I want to call it
• 34:41
  like a favorite of mine so that's why I gave it like a 3.5.
• 34:44
  I kind of like put it kind of like in the middle of the road
• 34:47
  and like if I had to rank all The dramas that I've ever seen
• 34:49
  like a kind of be land somewhere towards the middle because like
• 34:52
  it was good. I'm glad I don't regret watching
• 34:54
  it. I have no regrets because it was
• 34:55
  on my list and I think it's kind of like one of those shows that
• 34:57
  like you probably should watch but it wasn't a favorite.
• 35:01
  So yeah, so 3.5, okay, I kind of broke the rules with Minds just
• 35:07
  you may say, I don't know, I gave it to .89 Soju bottles.
• 35:11
  How many as eight nine? I don't know.
• 35:18
  Three. So I was just like, 89 sounds
• 35:20
  great. Okay, that's all I got, that's
• 35:23
  good. I'm gonna go with 30 give it
• 35:28
  three and a half stars as well as because it had here's the
• 35:34
  thing. My sister asked me today because
• 35:36
  you watch the last two episodes with me and she was like do you
• 35:38
  like the show? And I was like I do and I don't
• 35:41
  Ryan I told her if I had watched this a few years ago, I would
• 35:45
  have loved this. Like I would have been right up
• 35:49
  my alley. Yeah, I'm watching it now like
• 35:52
  after a few more seasons of having watch kdramas and having
• 35:55
  watched these actors and other things and I'm just like this is
• 35:58
  not like doing it for me, right? So I feel bad because I know for
• 36:03
  a fact that I would have eaten the shit up like in 20 years
• 36:09
  now. I'm like no.
• 36:11
  Like this is not a yeah. Yeah.
• 36:13
  Think we're jumping is always standard right dog and he's the
• 36:17
  highlight of the whole Tire experience taught to you.
• 36:19
  Talk about me, what's up? Yeah, but yeah, no, I agree
• 36:25
  because I was thinking like, I feel like if I watched this like
• 36:27
  early on in my journey, I probably would have been like
• 36:29
  this is the best show ever. But I think, because I've seen
• 36:32
  so many and I know like what these actors can do.
• 36:35
  And I've seen, like, similar plots, like, done, done better.
• 36:39
  I'm like, I know that something like, this could be done better.
• 36:42
  I know. There could be like a tighter
• 36:43
  story, so that's why I was like yeah, it's 3.5 so, yeah.
• 36:47
  Okay. Can I make a request?
• 36:48
  Best for you golf. I think that's very sad.
• 36:51
  She may watch this eventually, but just based off your comments
• 36:54
  for Susie, can both y'all watch uncontrollably van because I
• 36:57
  love grunting them. That I've seen uncontrollably
• 37:01
  fun. Did you like it?
• 37:02
  Did you like it? Uncontrollable melodrama.
• 37:06
  Oh, okay. So let's talk real fast about
• 37:10
  the show before we get into spoilers for a while you were
• 37:13
  sleeping. So, yes, uncontrollably funds is
• 37:16
  very, very sad. Okay.
• 37:18
  Does not have a happy ending for people who are like wandering or
• 37:21
  should I watch this if you don't like happy, if you need the
• 37:24
  happy ending, do not watch and uncontrollably fun.
• 37:27
  Um, I felt that it was okay, right?
• 37:31
  Because it's also her being like a journalist Like she was in my
• 37:37
  room sleeping. Yeah, but it's just so much
• 37:42
  emotions. Like running through the show.
• 37:46
  I don't know if I would like necessarily recommend it to
• 37:49
  somebody who's like, just in it for like the rom-com stuff.
• 37:53
  Like, it's not a wrong. Yeah, I would love to re-watch
• 37:58
  uncontrollably van to see how it holds up and how I feel about it
• 38:01
  now. But I think at the time that I
• 38:03
  was watching it, I was just like very calm Confuses the wrong
• 38:07
  word but I was just like dumbfounded.
• 38:08
  I was like, is this really happening?
• 38:11
  You know, I was like what is going on?
• 38:15
  This is getting way out of hand and then you just you're just
• 38:20
  like okay I guess. Like that's that was the show.
• 38:23
  It was just Like everything all at once.
• 38:28
  Yes that is just that's like my top.
• 38:32
  I think it's my top two it's what I love that drama.
• 38:37
  Like it was number one for a minute.
• 38:39
  Yeah I love that drama so much. I love like soaking and emotion
• 38:44
  but then I need something happy after by Life beer emotion.
• 38:47
  Like the same thing with not rain or shine just between
• 38:50
  lovers. That's really like a lot too but
• 38:54
  I don't know. I just I liked it and then the
• 38:56
  ending I was just crying and I was like, oh good.
• 39:05
  There's some crying B in While You Were Sleeping as well, but
• 39:08
  we're just gonna get, we're going to turn ourselves
• 39:11
  completely loose on the spoiler side so you do it.
• 39:14
  You, if you're ready, let's do it.
• 39:16
  We're going to head into spoilers right after this.
• 39:26
  You want to come in? All right, we're on the other
• 39:27
  side of spoilers, guys. So anything goes.
• 39:29
  If you don't care to be spoiled on while, Sleeping then keep
• 39:33
  listening. We're going to go all-in.
• 39:35
  So ladies where would you like to start on this show?
• 39:38
  I actually, for early on I was like this is kind of heavy on
• 39:44
  the law stuff on the yes. You'd roll aspect of Law and Law
• 39:50
  and Order or whatever. And yeah those are not my
• 39:53
  favorite dramas. So anytime like that happens.
• 39:57
  I'm like immediately kind of taken out of the drama a little
• 40:00
  bit because I was hoping for a little more.
• 40:02
  More fantasy side. And certainly there was like, a
• 40:05
  lot of fantasy because of the dreams, the shared dreams.
• 40:09
  But right, I'm not sure if I was necessarily too invested in the
• 40:15
  whole paperwork there. He's a prosecutor side, right?
• 40:20
  If you feel me, however, we did see some startup.
• 40:26
  Actors in this show and of course, like startup came later.
• 40:31
  So the domestic abuser husband from like early on he was in
• 40:38
  Yeah, he was in start-up he was like the stepdad who was like
• 40:42
  rich and stuff. Oh my God, I knew he looked
• 40:45
  familiar but I don't do you to break like it.
• 40:48
  He breaks his name plate. Like, on his desk.
• 40:51
  Most, I've gotta remember. Yes, I was like, oh my God.
• 40:56
  And then obviously Kim sohyun from love.
• 41:00
  Alarm is armed. Sucks.
• 41:08
  Don't watch Love alarm people terrible.
• 41:12
  I have walked away I know run run don't walk away from level
• 41:16
  or okay she is so I think that the bus explosion sequence.
• 41:22
  Do you think that it's some other like kid and it's not it's
• 41:26
  her. Yeah wild.
• 41:28
  Yeah. It's like an extended flashback
• 41:30
  for her kid and you think it's a like a little boy but it's not
• 41:33
  it's her. That's a part of big reason why
• 41:36
  I didn't like Susie and this role because Ken I imagine Susie
• 41:39
  getting like a pixie cut and wanting to be a baseball player
• 41:42
  in passing off as a boy and stuff.
• 41:44
  Like no, again, no really dive into that really?
• 41:49
  It was just kind of like, so, did you take have like a tomboy
• 41:51
  face? Exactly.
• 41:52
  She had like a tomboy phase and it never came back around to,
• 41:56
  like, right stylus on this idea that like Susie was a tomboy.
• 42:00
  And what like, she doesn't really follow baseball anymore.
• 42:03
  Like, what's the deal? Like, how did she go from like
• 42:06
  gun who I want to be a baseball player.
• 42:08
  You now she's like a very voracious journalist, right?
• 42:13
  Right. So I would have, we agree,
• 42:15
  there's like no connection to them.
• 42:17
  I guess, because of the trauma of her daughter at her dad
• 42:19
  dying, and like the bus explosion and the dreams and
• 42:23
  stuff. Like, but again, like, it
• 42:24
  doesn't, like, why was it so extreme?
• 42:27
  Like, she cut her hair, she was like dressing, like a boy, and
• 42:30
  she was a correcting people when they were like, oh, that little
• 42:32
  boy over there. Like she didn't write that.
• 42:34
  She was like, whatever. Right.
• 42:36
  So I thought that was a big hiccup for me.
• 42:38
  Me. You got jhn, like punch her in
• 42:42
  the face and I was okay as well. Yeah, right.
• 42:45
  Right. As well as her as a child.
• 42:53
  And she just said she was like, yeah, I needed that.
• 42:56
  Like, what? Right?
• 42:58
  This is like ha. Like oh man.
• 43:04
  So I think that I don't like how they started having dreams about
• 43:10
  each other and then it seems like this supernatural.
• 43:14
  Phenomena was like contagious. Yes, yeah, so because she had
• 43:20
  never saved anybody up. Until that point with using her
• 43:24
  dreams that nobody else had started dreaming about her
• 43:28
  because they didn't know that they weren't saved by Susie's
• 43:32
  character whatever. Yeah right but it was not until
• 43:37
  You know, John sucks, character saves John Haynes character,
• 43:41
  that junk hands, like it feels so much gratitude towards him
• 43:45
  that he starts dreaming about him, right?
• 43:48
  And then, at the end, everybody has dreams.
• 43:51
  It's like, you get a dream and you get a dream, you can write,
• 43:55
  right? I thought that there was no,
• 43:58
  like luck. Sure.
• 43:59
  There was logic, but it was not very sad and logic to me.
• 44:04
  Hmm. Because everybody started
• 44:06
  dreaming about each. Other.
• 44:08
  And there was like no surprises, like the stakes didn't seen that
• 44:10
  high at one point because everyone was like, having
• 44:14
  alternate versions of the same scenario.
• 44:16
  So, it was like, okay, right. You have one scenario, I have
• 44:18
  the other half and like, let's put it together and like, solve
• 44:20
  this thing. So, yeah, it just felt very easy
• 44:24
  and convenient writing wise to have everyone to start dreaming
• 44:29
  about each other because they've just felt so thankful to the
• 44:31
  other person who saved them. Like what and then why did
• 44:34
  jungkook's are having dreams so much later in life.
• 44:38
  Like she's by that logic. You should have started having
• 44:40
  dreams immediately after Jesus. He will linger.
• 44:43
  Yes. And Sage saved each other in the
• 44:45
  flashback when they were younger.
• 44:46
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:48
  But just so much, like why? Like, it doesn't hmmm.
• 44:52
  I also wish, they'd, like explained why Hong Joo was
• 44:56
  having dreams. Like, they never explained,
• 44:58
  like, why she has premonition exactly.
• 45:01
  It was just like what she just born that way.
• 45:03
  Like, and didn't seem like her mom ever had them.
• 45:06
  So it was like, Either right? So just like, well, what
• 45:11
  happened? Yeah.
• 45:12
  So I wish they explored that a little bit more 2mn.
• 45:15
  Director Choi, was he having dreams?
• 45:17
  And he just wasn't interfering until later and he said yes.
• 45:21
  That's exactly. Yeah, exactly.
• 45:23
  Exactly. Because as we need, like 20
• 45:25
  years, he had and his first like dream or whatever was about his
• 45:29
  own demise. Hmm, which is like, how do you
• 45:33
  deal with? He seemed very calm.
• 45:34
  Yeah, as well. Like he was like Like the friend
• 45:38
  is saying something like his partner, whatever is in the room
• 45:41
  and he's like you're not thinking of like committing
• 45:42
  suicide again or in his words he was like you're not thinking
• 45:45
  weird thoughts. Again, you and he's like no no
• 45:48
  no I'm not thinking that my end is much later.
• 45:50
  So he knew that what he had seen was a premonition and was like
• 45:54
  totally fine but he had seen his own death and a dream.
• 45:57
  Yeah. Yep.
• 45:59
  We're not going to talk about that.
• 46:00
  Like there's nothing. I'm back here.
• 46:02
  Like well, yeah, just like yeah, I knew this was going to happen
• 46:07
  and this is The choice I made and it's like okay, like you her
• 46:11
  having dreams to like it was just it was so much.
• 46:14
  Yeah. It felt like they were just, you
• 46:17
  know, they were trying to write themselves out of like loopholes
• 46:20
  and like okay well they just had a dream about how they're going
• 46:23
  to die in a burning Fire Inferno.
• 46:26
  So how do we get them out of that?
• 46:27
  Oh, so and sprays dreams, right, dumb it was dumb.
• 46:33
  I don't really understand that cuz he can have dreams about
• 46:36
  himself and Other people. I mean I guess I don't know how
• 46:40
  his work because all of their other three like there's one in
• 46:43
  the circle kind of they had dreams about one person to save
• 46:46
  them. He can't have drinks while
• 46:47
  himself and the rest of them. I'm confused on that but maybe
• 46:50
  I'm confused about how Hong Joo also piggy.
• 46:52
  Backing up what you're saying. Won't you was having dreams
• 46:54
  about randos people like her? Yeah her power was I'm calling
• 47:00
  it a power but hers was different than everybody else is
• 47:03
  because hers was like I'm just having premonitions about
• 47:05
  everyone everybody and then you know Right.
• 47:09
  Right. And then datong has dreams only
• 47:11
  on her and seems we'll talk dreams about j.chan and then
• 47:14
  prosecutor under. Sorry investigator, Lee
• 47:19
  director, Troy Troy Troy, oh my gosh.
• 47:23
  But yeah, then he has dreams about J-Town, I guess because he
• 47:25
  was the one that saved him. So just kind of like, so all
• 47:28
  these other people, our only link to the people that saved
• 47:30
  them but her, it's just like everybody and they never
• 47:33
  explained why, but they never explain why.
• 47:35
  And also halfway through the show she stopped having dreams
• 47:37
  about Other people, she was like, Ryan, I'm having dreams
• 47:40
  about you going to work early. Like I know we're driving like,
• 47:43
  right, right when before she was just doing about old random man
• 47:48
  with a cigarette, he's gonna blow up or like, you know, her
• 47:51
  dad or whoever and she's like, so she's her mom.
• 47:54
  Like yeah, I don't know. I wish I'd got more explanation.
• 47:58
  You just seemed a little bit annoying to me that she never
• 48:02
  tried to, like, I'm sure you tried, but there was didn't seem
• 48:05
  like a true effort on her part. To change these people's fate,
• 48:11
  until all of these guys start, like, circling around her.
• 48:15
  And I'm like, okay, that takes away.
• 48:16
  A lot of, like, her agency as a person, as a female character
• 48:20
  who, like, started this whole thing, like, she doesn't seem to
• 48:24
  want to do anything that she can, she's like a damsel in
• 48:26
  distress like the whole time even though she has the greatest
• 48:29
  power, right? I don't like that.
• 48:33
  We agree. Yeah.
• 48:35
  You speaking of the plot hole like what is this?
• 48:37
  Asshole. They fill it with more dreams
• 48:40
  are just like, yeah, becoming drinks.
• 48:42
  You got a dream, you gotta dream a dream over me.
• 48:48
  So jeonghan, let's talk about this guy, amazing s.
• 48:53
  Oh, my goodness. So precious, he has a freaking
• 48:57
  Corgi. This is the first time I've ever
• 48:59
  seen a corgi in kdrama. The me too.
• 49:03
  At first, I was eatin corrugator.
• 49:04
  Oh, why is it so cute? And he has like a lot.
• 49:07
  Like superhero and like Batman paraphernalia, like he's always
• 49:10
  like bring a Batman cap or a Batman shirt.
• 49:12
  Not always but, you know, towards the beginning of the
• 49:15
  show, in the end of the show, they have him like wearing like
• 49:17
  the superhero stuff, right? Yeah.
• 49:20
  And I found that so endearing and cute and he's genuinely just
• 49:26
  wants them to be okay and there's no effort on his part to
• 49:30
  try and woo her or try and cost issues in their relationship.
• 49:34
  He was just like silently, loving her and there was
• 49:37
  something so So genuine about that, because a lot of the times
• 49:41
  you have a second lead who at some point turns like slightly
• 49:45
  like villainous or tries to call.
• 49:46
  Yeah, main couple. That's always, yeah.
• 49:49
  Becomes obsessive stalker, whatever.
• 49:50
  And he wasn't like that at all, he was actually very chill and I
• 49:54
  feel like in real life. If someone has a crush on
• 49:57
  somebody else and they see no Avenue for like pursue or
• 50:03
  whatever, and they're feeling like their feelings are on
• 50:07
  what's the word? Not reciprocate, but it yeah,
• 50:10
  unrequited. That's it.
• 50:11
  Yeah, you're not going to go crazy and start chasing after
• 50:15
  them and like trying to break up this couple especially when you
• 50:19
  have this shared experience of the dreams together.
• 50:21
  So like right now I feel like it was very believable for him to
• 50:24
  just be like you know whatever like never confesses to her or
• 50:29
  nothing, you know. Right.
• 50:31
  She was oblivious it's just makes him a better second male
• 50:33
  little get makes him the better man, you know.
• 50:36
  Yeah, absolutely. I do you have to talk about
• 50:41
  since we're on, we'll talk. Can we talk about episode 8?
• 50:43
  I don't know if you have specific notes for this.
• 50:45
  Just okay, episode 8? Yes so yeah.
• 50:50
  No, yeah. All right.
• 50:53
  I was trying to build up looking but Dad for her so many times so
• 50:59
  many times injured for her. Yeah I was traumatized it was
• 51:06
  too much but yeah, he went Die for her.
• 51:09
  He would die for it literally would divert he is.
• 51:13
  So here's the thing, he got the date and time for from what's
• 51:18
  his face is dream. What's his name?
• 51:20
  Oh my God, let me get his name jhv turn.
• 51:22
  Yeah he gets all this info from date on the stream and then
• 51:26
  deliberately walked in first and tries to stop the bad guy and he
• 51:31
  like holds on to his legs and like tells you to run and all
• 51:35
  this stuff like he's buying her time and like he did Is on on
• 51:39
  purpose. Like, he knew like everything
• 51:41
  was gonna happen. Yeah.
• 51:43
  Oh my gosh, he's yeah, we got a real Lifeline out of this
• 51:48
  because they do also them feel really guilty like, J tan and
• 51:51
  Hong Joo. Yeah, who's extremely guilty
• 51:53
  about what happened and we have this line that says, like, only
• 51:56
  cry for a little while. Only blame yourself a little
• 51:59
  while in return, don't forget it for a long time.
• 52:05
  Yeah. He he like, of all this.
• 52:08
  Second male leads. He's definitely on my list of
• 52:10
  favorites. He was such a precious little
• 52:14
  sheol and it's funny because like in a lot of like a drama
• 52:19
  like lists and compilation videos like that they always
• 52:21
  talk about like oh like the shows they gave us like the
• 52:23
  worst second lead syndrome and they always mentioned this show
• 52:27
  and after finishing the show, I was just like I understand why I
• 52:29
  like people love him like second male lead but I didn't
• 52:33
  necessarily, I don't know. Like I I thought we were going
• 52:37
  to get like a lot more of Because I was like, the way that
• 52:39
  people talked about the second second lead syndrome.
• 52:41
  I thought that he was like, coming on strong.
• 52:43
  Like, yeah, love. Like I thought it was gonna be,
• 52:45
  you know, laying it on really thick, but he was so chill.
• 52:49
  So I was just like, oh, like he's super chill, but it's just
• 52:52
  like his character, his heart that it just like, it literally
• 52:54
  just makes you love him. So much.
• 52:56
  His character was just the sweetest guy like it.
• 52:59
  You're just rooting for him the entire time and he never
• 53:01
  overstepped his boundaries. You never try to cross the line.
• 53:04
  He never try to like, take her to the side and be like, hey,
• 53:07
  I'm too, I just I need to tell you that I like you like you
• 53:09
  know, he never did that. Like yeah you know, like and I
• 53:12
  don't know like it was even like I guess towards the middle of
• 53:15
  the show, I was thinking like, okay.
• 53:17
  Like I mean clearly has a crush on her whatever but then I start
• 53:19
  kind of daddy in the middle. Like, does he really have a
• 53:21
  crush on her? Because I don't know, he's so
• 53:22
  chill about it. But then towards the end I feel
• 53:24
  like they kind of crammed all this stuff in like with like the
• 53:27
  pimp taking the picture of the Shadow and everything so I was
• 53:29
  like okay like I wish there was like a little bit more of this
• 53:32
  like sprinkled throughout because it was just it was
• 53:34
  really cute but yeah exactly and they've second lead of mine.
• 53:38
  I think that and they kind of went back circled back and show
• 53:42
  the actual scene of him taking a photo of your shadows, now that
• 53:46
  they could have just done that throughout.
• 53:48
  Like they should have had that Stinger of him, like, doing
• 53:51
  something like, you know, doing something for her.
• 53:55
  Where were, you know, secretly, you know, doing x y z, because
• 54:00
  it would have helped that s like lead story line a little bit
• 54:04
  better, right? Kind of bridge some gaps, but we
• 54:07
  only got that one. Still Care of him like taking
• 54:09
  the shadow photo of them, which was like, really cute.
• 54:13
  Like it was so cute, very adorable.
• 54:15
  Yeah. Like he's just like, oh my God,
• 54:17
  we actually look really cute. As Shadows looks like she's
• 54:19
  leaning on my shoulder and then like secret and she can't
• 54:23
  recognize her own freaking Shadowland, right?
• 54:27
  He's like who's that stupid? Like sometimes you're like oh
• 54:29
  yeah, she's smart. No, she's stupid.
• 54:32
  Let's talk about how stupid she is.
• 54:33
  Okay. So look, my goodness.
• 54:36
  Final episodes. She I don't know why she insists
• 54:40
  on meeting attorney you bomb by herself multiple times.
• 54:46
  Yeah, when she knows from the very first episode that he's
• 54:51
  dirt, he's trash. He frames her for murder in an
• 54:54
  alternate, like, basically alternate reality.
• 54:56
  Because that ended up not happening.
• 54:59
  And she loses everything because of him and still, she decides.
• 55:02
  Oh, I'm going to like meet up with him and like, talk with him
• 55:05
  without any sort of like precautions.
• 55:08
  And again, it comes back to bite her in the final episode.
• 55:11
  He drugs, her gets with the serial, killer tries to kill her
• 55:13
  like he's like expecting her not to make it so that he could
• 55:16
  spend the story. However he wants well like what
• 55:20
  the hell? Like what the hell was she
• 55:22
  thinking? Yeah, it was just like what you
• 55:24
  put yourself in a situation. Yes.
• 55:26
  Why would you put yourself in that situation?
• 55:28
  You knew you knew. She's so trusting.
• 55:32
  Uh it's like why is she the damsel?
• 55:35
  She knows better. For the story.
• 55:39
  Anything I have to save the day reporter reporter Gene.
• 55:44
  She's like, I gotta go scoop it out for myself.
• 55:47
  What can we talk about? And I won't go to because I know
• 55:52
  we'll get it to him, but I have some thoughts on Sango poke that
• 55:56
  performance. He killed it, he killed it.
• 56:00
  One of the best villains I've seen in kdrama yali.
• 56:05
  I killed it. Yeah.
• 56:06
  And they gave him a little bit of like remorse, because every
• 56:10
  time he would have some sort of trial, go his way or not go, his
• 56:13
  way, he would feel guilty and go to the bathroom and like scrub,
• 56:19
  his hands trying to wash himself of like, you know, the Dirty
• 56:23
  Deeds that he's been doing as an attorney.
• 56:26
  And like I don't know if you've, you know, interacted with
• 56:30
  attorneys and the in defense attorneys at all.
• 56:33
  But my mom. For a law firm, and she's worked
• 56:36
  for law firms, like her whole career.
• 56:38
  And so I've been in and out of, like, Law Firm offices, and I
• 56:42
  just think that they kind of portrayed, this kind of weird
• 56:47
  because defense attorneys know that a lot of the clients that
• 56:51
  they have are guilty but you know, they deserve due process.
• 56:55
  That's their whole thing in America and in the you know,
• 56:58
  system that I've witnessed with a defense attorneys, they're
• 57:01
  like yeah sometimes they'll be guilty but But they deserve due
• 57:05
  process as well. And that's like the leg that
• 57:07
  they stand on, is they they look to that tenant of our, you know,
• 57:14
  law system. Yeah.
• 57:16
  To get through kind of like a morally, morally, gray areas.
• 57:25
  I guess, is how to put it and he wasn't coming at it from that
• 57:30
  angle. At all like he wasn't like,
• 57:32
  well, even though they're guilty like they deserve.
• 57:34
  Have their day in court or whatever?
• 57:36
  No, he was like, yeah, like I'll get you out of it.
• 57:40
  Like right? He was check straight
• 57:43
  villainous. Yeah, he was evil, he was
• 57:46
  terrible. Yeah, he played the heck out of
• 57:48
  that role like I was like wow. Like did you just want to slap
• 57:51
  him the whole time? Right?
• 57:53
  Because if you really can't stand him the entire time and
• 57:55
  yes but like just to kind of piggyback off of what you were
• 57:58
  saying it. Just like it did.
• 57:59
  Show that like okay like you do have a conscience because he
• 58:03
  knows bad. Like wrong getting people off
• 58:06
  for like, and basically, literally going to, every time
• 58:08
  he liked, would refute the prosecution, with literally
• 58:12
  something he made up like a reach, like such a far reach.
• 58:15
  I'll just roll my eyes, if you like.
• 58:17
  Are you kidding me, right? Are you serious?
• 58:19
  He's like, oh, yeah. Like the guy didn't die because
• 58:23
  of falling. He died because of the autopsy,
• 58:25
  just like. Are you kidding me?
• 58:26
  Like what's wrong with you? Think about it?
• 58:30
  It's like least. Like think about it like a
• 58:33
  horrible. Horrible person.
• 58:34
  Yeah, he played the heck of a lot role as the first time I've
• 58:37
  seen sign job in a shell. So I was just like, wow, yeah,
• 58:42
  he's let me see. He's been an eve.
• 58:45
  He's been in shooting stars. As a cameo, he was in doctors as
• 58:49
  a cameo. Which doctors is I think?
• 58:53
  Yeah, the dirt both of the directors worked on doctors.
• 58:56
  So he had already, you know, it worked with the directors
• 59:01
  before. He's also in the innocent man
• 59:03
  with some doing key. Why?
• 59:06
  I think, is that from, Jimmy key?
• 59:08
  No, it's a show from 2012, so I go.
• 59:12
  Okay, really lay back. No, it's a throwback.
• 59:14
  And I really like that show. I don't remember, who the hell
• 59:17
  is character was, but he was in there, like you stay.
• 59:20
  I don't remember there and that's a good show, so, I
• 59:25
  recommend it, but yeah, I also was very taken aback.
• 59:30
  Again, I don't really like to watch the police procedurals and
• 59:34
  the prosecutor Seed rolls that they have in kdrama.
• 59:38
  I don't really like that. Drama, the legal drama Leo job,
• 59:44
  but I just hate the fact that they're going through some of
• 59:47
  these trials and they don't have a jury.
• 59:49
  They just have a panel of three judges and like, that really
• 59:52
  bothers me because they're not being tried by like a jury of
• 59:55
  their peers but not being judged by a jury of their peers.
• 59:58
  Like it is in the US but in other shows, they do sometimes
• 1:00:02
  have a jury. They do is like it, just like,
• 1:00:04
  it depends and I don't know what the Why it is or isn't that way
• 1:00:08
  sometimes but right, it's like a little bit frustrating like
• 1:00:11
  there. Yeah there are laws and stuff.
• 1:00:13
  Like if it's real then it's like what I did leave.
• 1:00:17
  I did like the court Sister Act Dance theme that one was really
• 1:00:24
  heavy, just you remember that? Yes, I do.
• 1:00:27
  That was amazing because yes, she goes, I love him and you do.
• 1:00:31
  I love drunken, hence, character in uniform, I'm like a man in
• 1:00:36
  uniform. He's like fuck.
• 1:00:37
  Yeah uniformed you have a choir robe over that scene was
• 1:00:43
  hilarious. I feel like 10 times.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah it's good. That's a good one but yeah, I do
• 1:00:49
  agree because I'm watching um extraordinary attorney Wu and
• 1:00:53
  she had like a jury at least four episode one and I was like
• 1:00:56
  oh they do have juries and like quartz.
• 1:00:59
  So that's a good point. Yes, that's why I don't know
• 1:01:03
  why. Yes and why know sometimes but
• 1:01:05
  yeah, right. Speaking of like, going back to
• 1:01:09
  this romance that I like, I don't really buy into, they try
• 1:01:13
  to up the stakes in the middle of the show around episode 11
• 1:01:17
  when the mom suddenly, like withdraws, support from j.chan,
• 1:01:20
  like, what those so confusing and exhausting.
• 1:01:24
  Yeah, I would even like rewind and be like, did I miss
• 1:01:28
  something? Was going on with her?
• 1:01:30
  Like, yeah, she cuts him off. Basically from recuperating at
• 1:01:33
  the house for more than two days.
• 1:01:35
  He got freakin Shot in the street and she's like, you're
• 1:01:39
  not saying more than two days, right?
• 1:01:40
  Like it's like for what? And then she basically and she
• 1:01:44
  steals the ring that he gave her, that he gets like aah.
• 1:01:50
  And she's like, oh, I'm thinking back to Susie's character
• 1:01:54
  because she was a wailing mess essentially when he got injured
• 1:01:59
  and in, she was crying because she made the reality worst.
• 1:02:02
  Like she changed her dream to the so that it was worse.
• 1:02:06
  Ass off, then hurt him getting stabbed and all this stuff, and
• 1:02:09
  it reminded her of her reaction to her dad dying.
• 1:02:12
  Yeah, the bus crash or the bus explosion.
• 1:02:16
  And she says, like, sorry, I can't watch my daughter, like
• 1:02:18
  breakdown, like that, again, like, she's losing like her mind
• 1:02:22
  basically. Yeah, and I was like your
• 1:02:25
  daughter sees. So let's take, let's take a
• 1:02:27
  break it out. So, your daughter sees the
• 1:02:29
  future in dreams and she suddenly can't have any intense
• 1:02:34
  feelings about her messing around with the future or her
• 1:02:38
  boyfriend getting shot. Like, come on, like, give her a
• 1:02:42
  break, you know, seriously. Like it didn't You, come on
• 1:02:46
  lady. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
• 1:02:48
  why she was doing it. She did it for like multiple
• 1:02:50
  like episodes and she even does the same thing to woo.
• 1:02:52
  Tak it 1.2 and I was like, why are you doing this?
• 1:02:55
  Like, she kept doing it people. And I'm like, you're being
• 1:02:58
  petty. Sounds like Petty.
• 1:03:00
  And then she even said like I'm sorry I was being petty.
• 1:03:01
  Like she stole a ring like she's thieving and stuff in her own
• 1:03:05
  house like no. No.
• 1:03:09
  It was funny that she was keeping score between the boys,
• 1:03:12
  I love. Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  So she was like those funny you like pickles?
• 1:03:15
  Cool. And then she doesn't bring down.
• 1:03:20
  I think he did. He did when he was like salty
• 1:03:25
  about it. He was like what is more points
• 1:03:27
  than me outing? Yeah, jeonghan will always be
• 1:03:33
  the winner. Number one, number one.
• 1:03:35
  Yeah, yes. Speaking of some, of the cases
• 1:03:41
  that they went through. So I found the case where they
• 1:03:45
  had to choose between the autopsy, doing the autopsy, or
• 1:03:48
  doing the organ transplant. That one was really emotional
• 1:03:52
  and intense and in all the good, good ways.
• 1:03:55
  Right? Because, yeah, I feel like they
• 1:03:58
  put that other prosecutor on the under extreme pressure.
• 1:04:03
  And she ends up showing extreme empathy toward The parent who
• 1:04:08
  lost their son, the parent, who like, had their son murdered,
• 1:04:13
  she was like, you know, I think that they should do the autopsy
• 1:04:16
  because if I look at it from the Tas parents perspective, like I
• 1:04:20
  would want my child, like I want Justice For My Child, right?
• 1:04:25
  And it was, I think that kind of thing should have been explored
• 1:04:30
  a little more like maybe some of these stories should have had
• 1:04:32
  that look like angle where someone else has to make the
• 1:04:36
  decision. Yes, or no?
• 1:04:38
  Oh, to do x y z because it seemed like that was more
• 1:04:42
  meaningful than jet on making the call.
• 1:04:45
  You know what I'm saying? Right, right.
• 1:04:48
  Because her son was like supposed to get the transplant.
• 1:04:50
  He did get the transplant l so it ends up being like not an
• 1:04:54
  issue because they do both at the same time to translate and
• 1:04:57
  the autopsy and I was like okay that was a little bit of a
• 1:04:59
  letdown because like you want it to be one or the other, but they
• 1:05:04
  end up doing both. So I'm like, okay There was a
• 1:05:06
  lot of that in the show, where it's like, oh we have this like
• 1:05:09
  dilemma and then like, they choose a very obvious like
• 1:05:13
  alternative that's like, yeah, it ends.
• 1:05:15
  Get everyone lat. Yeah.
• 1:05:16
  Like everyone gets a win-win throughout the show.
• 1:05:19
  Yes. The beginning of her love story
• 1:05:21
  though, the other prosecutor and the other prosecutors love
• 1:05:24
  story. They had the better.
• 1:05:26
  They had the way better love story.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, they're asleep. They had the best love story.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, these are dating in the office and stuff, and yeah.
• 1:05:36
  You know he's very supportive of her when she's going through all
• 1:05:40
  that stuff with her child right in a medical emergency you know,
• 1:05:44
  like this is serious stuff and he's very he's there for her and
• 1:05:47
  he keeps her secret and he's advocating for her so it's way
• 1:05:51
  better of a story for them to get together then for our main
• 1:05:56
  couple to catch feelings and get together way.
• 1:06:01
  So what you know about the the prosecutors I got together on
• 1:06:05
  the side As I seen on there in the elevator was really funny
• 1:06:08
  because like, she was, like, really sad about like me was
• 1:06:10
  going on with her son. And he was just like, yeah, like
• 1:06:13
  don't worry, like, I won't say a word, like, I'm really
• 1:06:15
  tight-lipped and he's like, if I wasn't tight lift, I wouldn't
• 1:06:18
  tell you that prosecutors should is a Buddhist and prosecutors
• 1:06:21
  so-and-so gets fillers. I started spilling some cheese
• 1:06:25
  there and she got distracted and it was like, very excited about
• 1:06:29
  this, like Jesus in Spanish, it's cheese me.
• 1:06:32
  So that's why these cheese. Yeah, no, he's are spilling the
• 1:06:36
  tea and their, the elevator has, what should, like, what mind off
• 1:06:44
  of it? Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  So, Kurt her, you know, she was so fixated on the transplant and
• 1:06:50
  her son and stuff, and he was like, um, did you know that?
• 1:06:53
  So it's okay. It's pillars that she was like,
• 1:06:56
  I beg your pardon, it was really funny.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah, it was okay. I want to go back to ditch on
• 1:07:04
  because I'm sorry, John Haynes character because his big
• 1:07:09
  secret. Looking around to make sure no
• 1:07:13
  one's looking no, one hears this.
• 1:07:14
  It's a big secret. He's colorblind.
• 1:07:18
  Whoa, the blown up blown up y'all.
• 1:07:23
  That was the most. I was waiting for something
• 1:07:26
  else. I was like something else is
• 1:07:27
  coming. Hey.
• 1:07:30
  See you like? I cannot wait to hear you guys
• 1:07:32
  thoughts on that because I was like is this is the big secret
• 1:07:35
  that his friend was going to reveal to the world that he was
• 1:07:38
  colorblind? His friend was being tried for
• 1:07:42
  murder and he was like I'm gonna tell your secret And I was like,
• 1:07:48
  all right bet let's hope this Secrets, juicy sweetie.
• 1:07:53
  He just can't see red and green, okay?
• 1:07:56
  Like it was not that serious. He was colorblind and that
• 1:08:00
  meant. He couldn't be a police officer
• 1:08:01
  which I get that. He's gonna lose his career over
• 1:08:03
  it. But at the same time like in the
• 1:08:05
  context of this whole show, like we have murderers, you have to
• 1:08:08
  fucking serial killer in the final episode.
• 1:08:09
  Like what he's colorblind. And that's the thing, that
• 1:08:13
  that's the thing, the thing that I don't worry, but this whole
• 1:08:16
  case wide open. What else?
• 1:08:19
  Like what is? No, this was so weak.
• 1:08:23
  It was so weak. And my sister was like, because
• 1:08:25
  she saw the last episode she was like.
• 1:08:27
  So I guess it follows that principle, right?
• 1:08:30
  That you always talk about and I was like, yes, chekhov's gun.
• 1:08:32
  If you introduce a concept or, you know, in this case,
• 1:08:37
  chekhov's gun, if you have a gun in the scene, by the end of the
• 1:08:40
  scene, you have to shoot the gun.
• 1:08:42
  So, in this case, they had the color blindness.
• 1:08:44
  And at the end, the colorblind is comes into.
• 1:08:47
  Play, right. He again like I said, it ends up
• 1:08:51
  being a win-win. He reveals that he's Colorblind
• 1:08:54
  on the stand. He does not lie in perjure
• 1:08:56
  himself and loses his entire career and still the case is
• 1:09:01
  one. It's not a big deal in the grand
• 1:09:03
  scheme of things and I was like, okay there it is.
• 1:09:06
  This writing that's like oh it's got to be one of the other A or
• 1:09:09
  B and then they're like how about H like they're just like
• 1:09:13
  let's choose something else like and it's not a big deal.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah, I'm so sorry wild and also frustrated with that, yeah, it
• 1:09:23
  was weird. Also like I get that ended up
• 1:09:27
  kind of coming back around with like being able to identify the
• 1:09:30
  umbrella and everything, but that could have been entirely
• 1:09:33
  left out. I don't under like, that was
• 1:09:34
  not. I was like, did he kill someone
• 1:09:38
  when he was like a teenager like, what did he do?
• 1:09:42
  Yes, I wanted it to be sole. Shh sighs.
• 1:09:45
  I wanted gossip I want Hey, I got water.
• 1:09:50
  Looks like he's colorblind like and I'm like, you're like,
• 1:09:53
  you're literally being accused of murdering somebody, you look,
• 1:09:55
  well, I'm going to tell everyone that you're color blind.
• 1:09:57
  Like what does it? How does that make any sense?
• 1:10:01
  Dramatic music. Like, I'm gonna tell everyone
• 1:10:03
  your secret and then to find out that secret is being colorblind.
• 1:10:06
  I was like, that is actually ridiculous.
• 1:10:09
  It was like, you know, you could have chosen 20 other things, I
• 1:10:11
  would've been better than color blindness because it was, it was
• 1:10:14
  like, equivalent of like, oh man, like I'm gonna Take you
• 1:10:17
  down with me when you tell people that you had braces like
• 1:10:20
  what. But above all things, I had
• 1:10:24
  ordered Orthodontics. Like no, it was that like, out
• 1:10:28
  of left field. Oh man, oh man, oh man, like
• 1:10:35
  literally, that's what you thought like.
• 1:10:40
  Pop carry on, get it together. Girl, like, you had a better.
• 1:10:44
  She had a better time to start up better time and dream.
• 1:10:46
  Higher than she did with this. This side plot of him being
• 1:10:51
  another plan. Oh my God, all of the twists in
• 1:10:55
  the show, they didn't land well with me.
• 1:10:57
  So this was one of them. I was like, yeah, like the big
• 1:11:02
  reveals kind of like that was kind of the trend like for me as
• 1:11:06
  well, just kind of like it ends up falling flat and you're just
• 1:11:08
  like, that's it like, Literally literally just it's so
• 1:11:16
  disappointing. Like Anyway, investigator toy
• 1:11:21
  ends up being the cop that they saved from drowning back in the
• 1:11:24
  day. Of course, of course, like, it
• 1:11:29
  has like something had to be somebody that we had seen
• 1:11:31
  before, right? It's true.
• 1:11:34
  Yeah. How did you not recognize him
• 1:11:36
  though? I don't, I just think get that.
• 1:11:39
  But they found no, no, he was committing suicide and then it's
• 1:11:55
  been, I don't know what, 15, 20 years you're telling me, they
• 1:12:00
  can't ID this guy. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:12:05
  I feel so blowing that when it was revealed, like he saved them
• 1:12:09
  from that burning trailer tobacco thing and I was just
• 1:12:13
  like, why it could have been it. Somebody else like not him.
• 1:12:17
  Come on Mom. But yeah, no, you know what for
• 1:12:21
  me, like actually really wasn't. I wasn't mad at that.
• 1:12:24
  Like I was just like, okay, like, that's a cool, like, I
• 1:12:28
  actually didn't have a problem with it being him.
• 1:12:30
  I had a problem with what happened later.
• 1:12:32
  We'll talk about it, that way. What happened?
• 1:12:34
  Okay, let's go for it. Go for it yourself, right?
• 1:12:36
  Okay, yeah, so I think I'm sorry, I'm not gonna lie, I like
• 1:12:41
  a massive I roll. When he got hit by the car, bro,
• 1:12:45
  massive I roll. It was very reminiscent of why
• 1:12:49
  her. So that's why I was like, oh,
• 1:12:50
  this makes a lot of sense with like this, the directors and the
• 1:12:53
  writers. Yeah.
• 1:12:54
  Because something similar happened and why her, you know,
• 1:12:57
  you know, oxygen, that's kind of like, yeah.
• 1:12:59
  Just kind of like why like this Is so like it I just seemed like
• 1:13:05
  kind of like the easy way out very cliche.
• 1:13:07
  Very just yeah, I was so disappointed, that that's the
• 1:13:11
  choice that they took and I was like, of course he got hit by a
• 1:13:13
  car, so they label. So they were able to save tons
• 1:13:18
  of people throughout the show and each other, like, countless
• 1:13:21
  times. We, they can't save investigator
• 1:13:23
  Troy. They can't save this man.
• 1:13:27
  That's cause no one was dreaming about him.
• 1:13:30
  Evidently you can only say something, Jun bok, choy.
• 1:13:34
  He died. Oh yeah.
• 1:13:38
  I'm so sad because the end it was you bum as well.
• 1:13:43
  Like attorney you bomb again like goes on a rampage and runs
• 1:13:47
  him down in the street. I don't know why he did that so
• 1:13:51
  I guess maybe he was already like I'm going to jail anyway.
• 1:13:54
  I don't know. Why would he good to you?
• 1:13:57
  Exactly. He was so like, um, What's the
• 1:14:03
  word he was so intelligent about, like, what to do and what
• 1:14:06
  not to do, throughout the entire day.
• 1:14:07
  He was not trying to incriminate himself, even during the last
• 1:14:10
  bit of his trial. He was like, you know, I'm
• 1:14:13
  innocent. I didn't do this.
• 1:14:14
  Whatever. Maintaining her innocence and it
• 1:14:17
  wasn't until like his CEO or his boss who again we never seen
• 1:14:21
  before was like, right, you know, fool on is going to be
• 1:14:25
  here. Next time, I'm not going to do.
• 1:14:27
  I mean, I could be your attorney.
• 1:14:28
  Yep. And he found that so offensive.
• 1:14:32
  Been like maddening, I guess that he just like went off the
• 1:14:35
  rails. When investigator Troy was like
• 1:14:37
  don't run just admit your guilt and like deal with it.
• 1:14:41
  Like you can probably get a lighter sentence if you just
• 1:14:43
  admit to what you did. And again that was apparently,
• 1:14:46
  so awful, that he runs like runs him over with his vehicle.
• 1:14:52
  In my mind, it was just the writer trying to come full
• 1:14:54
  circle. Because in the first episode you
• 1:14:57
  have that dream where he runs Junkin over in the street.
• 1:15:01
  The hit-and-run. Run.
• 1:15:03
  So they were like, okay well he has to actually fulfill the
• 1:15:05
  destiny somehow. So then they he runs over
• 1:15:08
  investigator Choice instead. Mmm, wow.
• 1:15:11
  Just you a genius girl. I really like right there.
• 1:15:15
  Yeah, that that might have been their logic as to why they did
• 1:15:18
  that, but it was a horrible Choice, horrible.
• 1:15:21
  Like that wasn't terrible. The same thing happens to
• 1:15:25
  what's-her-face. Susie.
• 1:15:26
  So Seuss, character ends up in a coma in the first episode.
• 1:15:30
  Yeah. By the last episode.
• 1:15:31
  She's Through a coma as well. Which seemingly wasn't even that
• 1:15:34
  bad of a deal for her health wise?
• 1:15:36
  Because she comes out of the coma remembers, everything about
• 1:15:39
  the attempted murder, the color of the umbrellas.
• 1:15:42
  She's walking around, doesn't need assistance.
• 1:15:44
  No brain damage to speak of. She's fine.
• 1:15:49
  Wow, Jess, you're in both in just in shock it out.
• 1:15:58
  Wow. Oh, no, I didn't mean to blow
• 1:16:02
  anybody's mind but that I didn't like that.
• 1:16:05
  They still stuck with the original like Destiny, like the
• 1:16:09
  original fear that they had. Yeah, like he has to kill
• 1:16:13
  somebody by running them over with the car and like she has to
• 1:16:16
  pee in a comatose and all the stuff, like just doesn't make
• 1:16:20
  sense, just didn't? You didn't need it.
• 1:16:22
  You didn't need it, it wasn't necessary.
• 1:16:24
  Or I guess ultimately it also sells the idea that like, they
• 1:16:27
  opt, he could not fix. The fake, you know, that's
• 1:16:31
  right, right? Right.
• 1:16:33
  It kind of, yeah, it kinda makes you think about like, you know,
• 1:16:36
  how, like time travel movies or like, even like Avengers and
• 1:16:39
  stuff and they're just like, well, if we change stuff here,
• 1:16:41
  it's Gonna Change stuff as gonna mess everything up.
• 1:16:43
  So I was wondering if like all the any of the things that they
• 1:16:46
  change would come back around. So girl you crack the code, you
• 1:16:50
  figured it out and I didn't. Mm, yeah, I didn't even think
• 1:16:52
  about that. But we're y'all that was a good
• 1:16:54
  point. What you made about like why my
• 1:16:57
  goodness I'm gonna call him sign you off, I don't remember you
• 1:16:59
  bomb. I'm sorry you beneath me.
• 1:17:02
  Yes he hit investigator toy like cut off.
• 1:17:07
  Just kind of like y. Like it's like logically
• 1:17:11
  speaking like why cause you're already in trouble?
• 1:17:13
  Like you're already going down. So I was just like well you're
• 1:17:16
  going down with me or was it just like him just trying to
• 1:17:18
  like just seek revenge or be like you blow up my spot?
• 1:17:22
  Like you expose everything, like I don't it just he didn't make
• 1:17:24
  sense. Logically, he didn't even seem
• 1:17:26
  that upset like after he parted ways with joy, is like and
• 1:17:31
  likewise talking about this car and you're just like, okay,
• 1:17:36
  conversation over we're done like he's going to jail,
• 1:17:38
  whatever know he comes flying through with the car like like
• 1:17:43
  and then he doesn't even like actually commit the hit-and-run.
• 1:17:45
  Like he doesn't run. He sticks around.
• 1:17:48
  They catch you 26 there. Yeah, I did it.
• 1:17:54
  Years ago. Bird bar.
• 1:17:57
  Oh, goodness gracious. Here's another qualms that I
• 1:18:02
  have in the last couple of episodes.
• 1:18:03
  They introduced the serial killer, I knew immediately that
• 1:18:06
  it was a female serial. Killer, there was no doubt in my
• 1:18:09
  mind that it was a female. I don't know why, but I was
• 1:18:12
  like, it's a lady. They're looking for the wrong
• 1:18:14
  person, whatever. They have the wrong ammo and
• 1:18:17
  sure enough. It's a lady.
• 1:18:19
  And the reason why she started being a serial killer and
• 1:18:22
  killing off the people in the hospital Ward was because she
• 1:18:25
  was basically jealous of them for getting better while she was
• 1:18:29
  you know getting through her illness and wasn't getting
• 1:18:33
  better and all this stuff. What was her illness?
• 1:18:35
  This is this really really irked me.
• 1:18:39
  Oh my goodness, her illness was Crohn's disease.
• 1:18:43
  It's funny but yeah, it was definitely a facepalm moment.
• 1:18:49
  I was like Crohn's disease that you can live with that.
• 1:18:52
  I know somebody with crohn's disease.
• 1:18:54
  Of course, they avoid certain things.
• 1:18:55
  Of course, is painful for them sometimes and they get that are
• 1:18:57
  here. They have like lapses but as far
• 1:19:01
  as like, should there be open lesions all over their body and
• 1:19:05
  face like why? I don't know what the hell was
• 1:19:08
  that. What was that?
• 1:19:11
  They like got the symptoms of Crohn's Disease, all wrong.
• 1:19:16
  Looks like you can look this up. Like it should be, she was like,
• 1:19:19
  oh they took a part of my intestines and I was like, okay
• 1:19:21
  I can understand that. Like that's yeah falls in love
• 1:19:24
  with crohn's disease, but then she was like right couldn't move
• 1:19:26
  like she was laid up in bed with all of these like facial lesions
• 1:19:30
  and see ya body like why are we having open sores if you had any
• 1:19:35
  sores, that would be on the inside of her mouth?
• 1:19:36
  Like it was like, right? I was like the basic like due
• 1:19:43
  diligence to look at this disease.
• 1:19:46
  Like right fit figure out what would make sense.
• 1:19:49
  I wish it was like something more dressy like cancer, you
• 1:19:52
  know, in that respect, like maybe there were like a can't be
• 1:19:55
  cancer. Everyone does cancer in kdrama.
• 1:19:58
  Let's do something else. Right, they chose Crohn's
• 1:20:01
  disease disease. Yeah, it was bizarre like it was
• 1:20:05
  that was another anti climactic moment.
• 1:20:07
  It was just kind of like to just to find out that it's this lady.
• 1:20:11
  That was bitter that she was sick and other people in her
• 1:20:14
  room or getting better. And No one like aspect her.
• 1:20:17
  When all right, the other people in the ward died.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah, it was, it was just weird. It was just like, okay, like,
• 1:20:24
  that's why she did it. But then like I also don't
• 1:20:26
  really like how they molded the story, like a rounded because,
• 1:20:29
  like, the random guy that like stole cell phones and like him.
• 1:20:33
  Having a daughter, like, that's passed away ten years before I
• 1:20:36
  was like, this was not necessary, but quite and that
• 1:20:40
  being the lead up to like the lady, it was just kind of like
• 1:20:43
  what is this? Keep going.
• 1:20:46
  Keep going. There's more I do this work.
• 1:20:48
  Oh my God, guys. Son and stuff that I didn't like
• 1:20:51
  when I was switching umbrellas with people, then all of the
• 1:20:55
  stuff with the sun and then the guy who like was falsely accused
• 1:20:59
  and stuff to just build upon everything.
• 1:21:02
  You said Nez just yeah. All that whole thing mess lazy,
• 1:21:08
  it's lazy. Yeah, you know, Then
• 1:21:13
  investigator Choi said that you bum had the same birthday as his
• 1:21:17
  brother. His younger brother that like
• 1:21:19
  died. Every single thing is like, it's
• 1:21:26
  just like, what the heck? Not honestly, nothing was making
• 1:21:29
  sense. What's the end?
• 1:21:33
  I'll be like it was. I thought I was a coincidence,
• 1:21:38
  has over and over and over again.
• 1:21:41
  And okay, dramas are built on coincidences.
• 1:21:43
  I get it. But this was too much, it was
• 1:21:48
  and there's a way to do it. Well, like, we've all seen.
• 1:21:50
  Dramas that like kind of have this kind of similar thing going
• 1:21:54
  on, like there might be a mystery, there might be a crime,
• 1:21:55
  whatever childhood connection, whatever, but like it can be
• 1:21:59
  done well and it could be done in an intentional way and not
• 1:22:02
  just a whole bunch of Randomness and just like lazy coincidences,
• 1:22:07
  like we've seen it done well to. So to kind of see how they kind
• 1:22:09
  of constructed the story I was just kind of like, yeah, this is
• 1:22:13
  not, this is not up to par. I would say if you want to watch
• 1:22:18
  something that's like a fantasy story that has some sort of like
• 1:22:22
  time element or, you know, trying to fix events that are
• 1:22:27
  not so good from happening. And that sort of thing I would
• 1:22:29
  go with either signal, which is a police procedural.
• 1:22:33
  Okay. Excellent drama.
• 1:22:34
  Definitely, recommend of my list or if you want yes, watch it or
• 1:22:40
  if you want to go more romance, you could go with tomorrow with
• 1:22:42
  you which starter my list to yes.
• 1:22:46
  I know what this guy's name again, I love him.
• 1:22:49
  The gospel and you Joan, you doin it.
• 1:22:53
  I love him so much. I loved him from you to have and
• 1:22:55
  I was like, I love you. He's really such a good actor,
• 1:22:58
  stunning, such a great actor, highly recommend.
• 1:23:00
  No one talks about tomorrow with you, it's so good.
• 1:23:02
  So, those two I would definitely recommend for if you if this
• 1:23:08
  because we've really shot on this show, I don't want to wrap
• 1:23:13
  up this. They love it.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:23:19
  Okay. When were some good things about
• 1:23:20
  the strut? I know we're coming to and then
• 1:23:22
  we're kind of wrapping it up. But like what were some good
• 1:23:24
  things about this drama that you liked?
• 1:23:29
  Well, I kind of know I'm like, you know, on other side, but I
• 1:23:34
  like the romance. Like one of my favorite scenes
• 1:23:36
  was like after the whole stabbing thing and they both met
• 1:23:41
  like the little Pond Park area, and she was crying.
• 1:23:44
  And then he gave her his tie, his shoes and raping her time
• 1:23:48
  with that's what their heart tears.
• 1:23:50
  I was like you're really cute maybe in another drama with a
• 1:23:54
  different like writing team and stuff them to try it again.
• 1:23:58
  I felt like They were really cute.
• 1:24:01
  They were together it just for me.
• 1:24:03
  I thought they were cute. Don't know, I know you guys.
• 1:24:05
  I agree. I think they had a lot of cute
• 1:24:08
  moments. Like, really cute moments, like
• 1:24:11
  the tide, like the crying Look Down, Show tie, like the kiss in
• 1:24:15
  the rain and just like their, which didn't actually have their
• 1:24:19
  right? I'm not through the cherry
• 1:24:22
  blossom kiss, which never happened it, right?
• 1:24:25
  That didn't happen yet. But the rain kiss, happy?
• 1:24:27
  Yes, yes. So let's leave They definitely
• 1:24:29
  had some cute moments but hopefully we can talk about our
• 1:24:32
  chemistry like a little bit after because I do have some
• 1:24:36
  issues. Okay?
• 1:24:37
  But no, I think they did have some really sweet moments.
• 1:24:40
  Yes, my name is sweet moment then we can talk about their
• 1:24:41
  chemistry. So I liked that he watches over
• 1:24:46
  her on her way to work and he's like, oh, I'll take you to work
• 1:24:49
  and all this stuff and he leads her across the street, when
• 1:24:51
  she's really scared to return to her job.
• 1:24:54
  Because, of course, she saw her demise, and she was wearing the
• 1:24:56
  SBS, like, uniform or whatever and she was, like, I can't go
• 1:24:58
  back. Work.
• 1:24:59
  Otherwise, I will eventually die on the job.
• 1:25:02
  And, you know, she was very scared and he leads her across
• 1:25:06
  the street. And sincerely says that like,
• 1:25:09
  yeah, I'll take you to work everyday.
• 1:25:10
  If that makes you feel at peace. And yeah, you can whine to me
• 1:25:14
  about protecting you if you want.
• 1:25:16
  And you know, he lets her hug him and it's just he's catching
• 1:25:20
  more feelings toward that point and it felt like that moment was
• 1:25:24
  very important for them. So I like that a lot.
• 1:25:28
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:25:29
  Yeah. Oh, one more thing.
• 1:25:30
  I just have like one more sweet woman.
• 1:25:32
  I love whenever they did, like, kind of like the juxtaposition
• 1:25:36
  between when they were kids and when there were adults, so, like
• 1:25:40
  the scene, when they were at the funeral hall, for inspector toys
• 1:25:45
  funeral, they kept cutting and yeah, that was bat.
• 1:25:49
  Bat, bat got me a little choked up up from that seed.
• 1:25:54
  And also like the scene that they had went.
• 1:25:57
  After J tan got shot and Um like he was she was like at his
• 1:26:01
  bedside and they kind of like did the same thing like kind of
• 1:26:04
  like a flashback when they're yeah kind of like the chocolate
• 1:26:07
  chip, the child version of them and it was that was really,
• 1:26:09
  really sweet. Yeah but the funeral part I did
• 1:26:13
  a little choked up a little bit then but yeah it was.
• 1:26:16
  That was sweet. Oh sorry one more thing.
• 1:26:20
  This other sweet moment. This is Han.
• 1:26:22
  Woo Tak and his sunbae that I went when they think about it at
• 1:26:27
  the end. Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  And what's cried in that scene. Yeah.
• 1:26:32
  Like that that I was literally, like, going like this, like I
• 1:26:35
  was like, oh wow, I agree. That was very emotional because
• 1:26:39
  he's saying goodbye to his longtime partner in the partner.
• 1:26:42
  Like kept his secret, he knew he was colorblind the whole time
• 1:26:44
  was like helping him out and learn Like he just says a very
• 1:26:49
  poetic things like he's because he refers to the emblem of the
• 1:26:52
  public, the police badge or whatever and he's like this felt
• 1:26:56
  so heavy on me but I like did it, you know?
• 1:26:59
  Anyway and I you know, wanted to be a good, you know, police
• 1:27:03
  officer whatever. And it's just like, that's all
• 1:27:06
  right. I think I cry.
• 1:27:20
  Yeah. Like fryer.
• 1:27:21
  He's a good like you're like, oh my God, he's about to fall over.
• 1:27:25
  Like he's just so overcome and I believe him like every time he's
• 1:27:30
  like crying or wailing or whatever and yeah, that goodbye
• 1:27:34
  with him. And his part I was like Bromance
• 1:27:35
  is alive. Like this is bleep.
• 1:27:38
  What a fool, like it's more emotional than like anything.
• 1:27:40
  Else that happened. And yeah, that was the most fun
• 1:27:43
  part of the entire show for me. I was like, Yep.
• 1:27:46
  This is this. It I was like, legit, like not.
• 1:27:48
  Okay, yeah, mmm, yeah, it's good, it's good.
• 1:27:54
  Okay, Chemistry Between the leads rapid fire.
• 1:27:57
  Let's go. What do you guys think?
• 1:28:00
  I do. Now, I'm thinking back, I do
• 1:28:02
  agree with you guys because I was thinking, like, in the
• 1:28:06
  beginning, she was really clingy.
• 1:28:08
  And then she stopped being clingy in the next episode.
• 1:28:11
  He was in love with her, and I was like, yeah, you but you were
• 1:28:14
  mad at her for being clingy, then you became clingy.
• 1:28:17
  How did you fall in love with her?
• 1:28:18
  Was it the dreams? Was it?
• 1:28:19
  Because her mother told you don't go with her.
• 1:28:21
  Like what happened? Yeah.
• 1:28:25
  Yes like there was yes, exactly. I don't know what to say but it
• 1:28:30
  was like, just, yes. Like there was no, where did it
• 1:28:34
  come from? Like, why was he suddenly not
• 1:28:35
  annoyed with her being clingy? And like, assuming that they
• 1:28:38
  were in a relationship in that? He liked her and all the stuff
• 1:28:40
  like, no. She was dilute for like five
• 1:28:43
  years. Those.
• 1:28:44
  And then he was like, boom. I like you.
• 1:28:46
  Hmm. For what?
• 1:28:47
  Why? That's my puppy whistles when I
• 1:28:52
  can't figure out. Why the leads like each other.
• 1:28:55
  It's like, why do you like them? Why do you like she can't?
• 1:28:58
  Yeah, no reason. Uh, no reason at all.
• 1:29:02
  Yeah, no. Yeah for me it was something I
• 1:29:06
  was thinking about throughout the whole show because I was
• 1:29:08
  like something's off and I don't know what what it is but
• 1:29:12
  something's off about this. I just and like I said before
• 1:29:15
  like they did have a lot of Sweet Moments like I like the
• 1:29:17
  way that like the Sweet Moments were written and everything but
• 1:29:19
  like It just wasn't it wasn't consistent from he was like very
• 1:29:23
  up and down like I wasn't getting that that that Sizzle
• 1:29:27
  like I wasn't getting like the fuzzies like yeah and I really
• 1:29:30
  wanted to because I felt like on paper like they look great
• 1:29:32
  together like right. You know, they're both very
• 1:29:35
  talented, of course but it just wasn't I wasn't feeling it and
• 1:29:39
  honestly like I feel like hyung Jun will tack on more chemistry
• 1:29:42
  like yeah. I felt the chemistry between
• 1:29:44
  them. Even if feels like even those
• 1:29:45
  just friend the chemistry or whatever, he liked her, whatever
• 1:29:48
  unrequited but I felt like more chemistry.
• 1:29:50
  Between them. But I was not feeling the
• 1:29:54
  Romantic chemistry, like, between Hong Joo and a town,
• 1:29:57
  like, at all, like, sometimes I feel like, but for the most part
• 1:30:00
  it was like, not really and like they have a great chemistry as
• 1:30:03
  like, friends that the, when the three of them were together, it
• 1:30:05
  was like the cutest thing like the two of them, I was just like
• 1:30:09
  something about this just feels forced.
• 1:30:10
  It feels unnatural like, I don't know, like there was something
• 1:30:13
  about it that was just off. Yeah.
• 1:30:15
  And that sucks because their kisses were so good, right?
• 1:30:17
  Like it was a good quality kissing I guess.
• 1:30:20
  They were and still like the chemistry was in there and I
• 1:30:24
  would say that. Why are you guys laughing a
• 1:30:26
  really good quality kissing? I've never heard that before.
• 1:30:31
  I've never so everyone makes fun of like the fisheye kisses or
• 1:30:37
  like dogs kisses tile of Kiss. Ya almost felt like they didn't
• 1:30:41
  have none of that. So I was like, right.
• 1:30:42
  Okay. High-quality kisses.
• 1:30:44
  So right, here's my thing, is that we've I'm gonna trade mark
• 1:30:49
  that, I You should? You said, they'll make it your
• 1:30:53
  thing you should handle, do it? Yeah, but we've seen Duncan
• 1:30:59
  Duncan, hey, Jung. Suk with other female leaves and
• 1:31:03
  he's had great chemistry with them.
• 1:31:04
  Like, let's look at w for instance, I don't know if you
• 1:31:07
  guys have seen that one but like he has great chemistry with Han
• 1:31:09
  hyo-joo and that one, right? And it's kind of their
• 1:31:12
  chemistry, the drives the whole show because it goes off the
• 1:31:15
  rails plot-wise, but then two together like invested in them.
• 1:31:21
  Or he's like yes yes goes nuts. I have outside conversation
• 1:31:25
  about that. I have a question for y'all
• 1:31:28
  though. And maybe y'all can explain to
• 1:31:30
  me. Do you think that maybe he
• 1:31:32
  started to like her because plot twist at the end.
• 1:31:35
  He was suspecting who she was from the ball cap so he was
• 1:31:40
  drawn to her, maybe from that, I don't know.
• 1:31:46
  Maybe maybe start to put things together.
• 1:31:49
  Yeah, he had. Inkling.
• 1:31:51
  For sure. They made it seem like he was
• 1:31:52
  like, Oh, I thought it was a boy when I was a kid.
• 1:31:56
  Yeah, it's he likes Idols Usher at the bus, stop again.
• 1:32:05
  Like it does, it does it quite like, there's something missing
• 1:32:08
  here like, connective tissue that were missing between like,
• 1:32:12
  hey, I thought that kid that saved my life as a kid was a boy
• 1:32:19
  like we're stuck. The rest of your thought like
• 1:32:21
  okay I'm just gonna like go to work with her on the bus like
• 1:32:24
  yep. Yeah.
• 1:32:26
  Oh my God, you know? You know, II the way I took it
• 1:32:33
  was I thought he just, I thought she just wore him down.
• 1:32:36
  Yeah, you could say that as well.
• 1:32:38
  Like that's the only kind of plausible explanation that I
• 1:32:41
  have come to, as well as that she kind of just like between
• 1:32:44
  the dreams being unrelenting and him like constantly being like
• 1:32:47
  bombarded with them, right? And having to save her multiple
• 1:32:50
  times in her just being, I guess endearing like this Behavior.
• 1:32:55
  I guess it should be seen as an earring, he was Okay, I kind of
• 1:32:59
  like you right? Like, okay, we'll see how this
• 1:33:02
  goes like here. She's showing up to your coffee
• 1:33:04
  shop and getting you coffee and waiting for you and like just
• 1:33:08
  showing up wherever you are, you're like, okay, whatever.
• 1:33:11
  I was, let's see where this takes us.
• 1:33:14
  The one thing that I didn't, this last thing I'll say
• 1:33:16
  actually is he kind of when he gets shot he has this like, the
• 1:33:19
  extended voiceover. He's like I wanted to say this
• 1:33:22
  thing to you, but I wanted to tell you.
• 1:33:25
  And finally, he says that he wanted to tell her That he was
• 1:33:28
  sorry because when she confronted him on like his
• 1:33:32
  commute to work one time, he said he didn't believe her, even
• 1:33:36
  though he had already experienced these dreams and
• 1:33:39
  knew that she was telling the truth.
• 1:33:41
  You still told her, he didn't believe her and that she should
• 1:33:44
  feel guilty as a matter of fact, because if she's been having
• 1:33:46
  these dreams that come true, and people are in danger than she
• 1:33:50
  should feel responsible for trying to change her fate and
• 1:33:54
  trying to say these people. So their blood is on her hands
• 1:33:57
  as what he was saying. Earlier in the show and then
• 1:34:00
  during the voiceover he's like you know dying he's flatlining.
• 1:34:03
  All the stuff he's like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that
• 1:34:05
  I should have just taken the umbrella that you handed me and
• 1:34:07
  said, okay, like I believe you and I will except, you know this
• 1:34:12
  umbrella because it's going to rain or whatever.
• 1:34:13
  Even though the forecast says, no rain.
• 1:34:16
  Yeah, I liked that. And he doesn't quite say this to
• 1:34:22
  her. I mean.
• 1:34:23
  Yes later on when he like comes to and he's like, there's that
• 1:34:27
  joke of Like him and the chief prosecutor.
• 1:34:30
  Like he's like got his hands all over him and he's like, up,
• 1:34:33
  sorry, I knew that you're here. It's like as a joke later and
• 1:34:37
  she does show up and they kind of just, he doesn't say
• 1:34:42
  necessarily all this stuff that happened in the voiceover.
• 1:34:45
  He just says, you know, I I recognized you, why don't you
• 1:34:48
  say that, you recognize me all this stuff like, and go straight
• 1:34:51
  to their past with the suicidal Cobb and their dads died on the
• 1:34:56
  same day and all this stuff their shared trauma.
• 1:34:59
  But he doesn't reference like this very important.
• 1:35:01
  Like I feel like that's very important for him to say like,
• 1:35:04
  yeah, I'm sorry I believe you and like I shouldn't have kind
• 1:35:08
  of made you become a superhero, like try and stop these things
• 1:35:12
  from happening because you know, it's not your response, not your
• 1:35:15
  responsibility necessarily to try and like block all these bad
• 1:35:19
  things from happening but then they also like he negates that
• 1:35:23
  by like become the. Yes he tries to stop all these
• 1:35:26
  that things from happening. Yep.
• 1:35:29
  So yeah, they still like fall into the trappings of like,
• 1:35:33
  trying to like out outmaneuver the dreams and the future.
• 1:35:36
  Right. Right.
• 1:35:39
  Yeah, I agree. I wish that was Revisited
• 1:35:41
  because I was like, one of my favorite scenes until you find
• 1:35:43
  out that it was his chief prosecutor.
• 1:35:45
  Here's caressing. But I was like, how are we going
• 1:35:47
  to like, go back to that? Are you gonna talk to her about
• 1:35:49
  that? Yeah, like okay, no.
• 1:35:51
  All right. It's kind of messy, it's kind of
• 1:35:54
  messy. Because she's like, I don't.
• 1:35:56
  What do you mean? And she doesn't wear the You
• 1:35:58
  know, the stuff and she's like, they don't go back to.
• 1:36:01
  Yes, she was there and yes, it was real.
• 1:36:03
  He wasn't like hallucinating after the surgery, right?
• 1:36:08
  See you tomorrow. So I still thought he was
• 1:36:11
  hallucinating, until we just talked it out.
• 1:36:14
  I was just like, oh, but like, but honestly like that's valid
• 1:36:21
  though because like it got like that's one of my clams too.
• 1:36:23
  Because of the things got confusing.
• 1:36:25
  A lot of the time and you're just kind of like Even know
• 1:36:28
  what's real? It's like Inception.
• 1:36:29
  Like he's like, I don't know what's happening, I don't know
• 1:36:31
  what's a dream. I don't know what happened and
• 1:36:34
  like, it's it kind of, kind of, kind of became a lot to kind of
• 1:36:36
  keep track of. So, like I could understand that
• 1:36:39
  because that scene was kind of confusing.
• 1:36:41
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:36:43
  I have come to the end of my notes because I feel like if we
• 1:36:46
  will just continue bashing the show.
• 1:36:50
  Oh, no, man, it's just so much. Oh, last thing I'll say, Let me
• 1:36:56
  see if I can find it. The chicken guy who purposely
• 1:36:59
  killed his brother for the insurance money that was Kang
• 1:37:02
  Chi Yong from attorney Wu, who is now like a big heart throb
• 1:37:07
  now. Yeah.
• 1:37:09
  Oh that is him because I've been seeing his pictures around.
• 1:37:15
  Oh okay. Okay, that makes sense.
• 1:37:16
  Yeah. And I was like oh he's like a
• 1:37:18
  villain. He's one of these killers that
• 1:37:23
  he's Prosecuting and he like killed like The cats or
• 1:37:26
  something in the neighborhood. Like, you was like, running
• 1:37:28
  weird. It was weird.
• 1:37:31
  Did you like him as like playing a?
• 1:37:34
  Not a villain but I guess. Yeah.
• 1:37:35
  Like a villain character versus. He's usually like a sidekick
• 1:37:38
  character. Someone who's not necessarily
• 1:37:41
  good, not necessarily bad. Like I didn't attorney Wu.
• 1:37:44
  He's very sympathetic and people seem to really rally behind him.
• 1:37:46
  But in this one, he sleeps like a baby serial killer who's
• 1:37:50
  killing off siblings for insurance money.
• 1:37:52
  So two different people to me. Because and attorney Wu I was
• 1:37:57
  like he's so charismatic like habla and then yeah.
• 1:38:01
  And here, I don't even. Yeah.
• 1:38:03
  It was it could be two different people to me honestly.
• 1:38:06
  Yeah. I yeah, I think he was
• 1:38:08
  unrecognizable a little bit. Yeah.
• 1:38:12
  Oh man. Okay, I got a lot of off my
• 1:38:14
  chest. I feel like this is a venting
• 1:38:15
  session. I hope you guys felt the same
• 1:38:19
  way and that you don't regret watching this show.
• 1:38:23
  I don't regret watching. It was just not this, excellent
• 1:38:27
  drama. That I was led to believe, you
• 1:38:29
  know, right. Totally agree.
• 1:38:31
  I would agree with that statement.
• 1:38:32
  For sure, it's not terrible. I don't regret watching it.
• 1:38:34
  I wouldn't like tell people not to watch it.
• 1:38:37
  I just I was expect--. I had high expectations like
• 1:38:40
  This is like one of those like staple dramas at people, you
• 1:38:42
  know, like they say, it's their favorite and like it has
• 1:38:45
  generated so high. Yeah, like it's gonna be
• 1:38:47
  amazing. So then I watch it.
• 1:38:49
  I was like, okay. Hi little.
• 1:38:54
  Sorry for real. Look, at the whole time, I'm
• 1:38:55
  watching the show, like, I like follow the story.
• 1:38:58
  I'll be like, okay, like how would a person do you want?
• 1:39:00
  Like, how you feel with the show that she's this like, um, it's
• 1:39:03
  okay. And I'll just like, what's wrong
• 1:39:06
  with they're like, What's the problem?
• 1:39:06
  Is that this point? I still like liked it like me,
• 1:39:09
  like five episodes in In and she's just a slight, I don't
• 1:39:11
  know. Like, you'll just you'll look,
• 1:39:13
  let's talk after you're done with it.
• 1:39:15
  And then once I finish the show, I was like, I understand why she
• 1:39:17
  was just very well. I'm about it.
• 1:39:18
  Yeah, it's kind of all over the place but I kind of like this.
• 1:39:22
  Really how I felt about why her as well because like there's
• 1:39:25
  really good aspects to it. But there's also this like also
• 1:39:28
  what is going on here? So it's just like I liked it but
• 1:39:31
  I didn't like it and it's a great conflicted feeling that I
• 1:39:34
  had with that show as well. So yeah.
• 1:39:36
  Okay yeah. All right.
• 1:39:37
  I do want to look more into those threads of wife.
• 1:39:40
  People liked it because I didn't really look into that.
• 1:39:42
  So, I'm going to do that because I know y'all y'all messin with
• 1:39:46
  us and let her know. Yes.
• 1:39:47
  Message us at ATC double pod, on all the social.
• 1:39:51
  Psych tell us what exactly were missing from the show this
• 1:39:54
  please, we watched all 16 hours. And I'm like, where's the wire
• 1:40:00
  people like up? I miss something here.
• 1:40:05
  Cause I'm not seeing it right? I feel so bad.
• 1:40:08
  The first couple of episodes. Excellent, really good episode.
• 1:40:11
  Yeah, I can't in good conscience, like recommend the
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  show. Anyway, that's a Nori.
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  Thank you guys so much for coming.
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  This is like a family reunions. I love talking to you guys.
• 1:40:28
  Yes, thank you for coming on. Making the time watching the
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  show. I know it's real.
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  Foucault to watch those outside of like your own, like personal
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  watch list or your own podcast list.
• 1:40:37
  Like you're just like, oh, one more thing.
• 1:40:39
  So I really appreciate you guys taking the time to do this and
• 1:40:42
  to talk, we've gone on for almost two hours.
• 1:40:44
  I feel so bad, but thank you. Where can we find you guys
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  online? Yes, I do.
• 1:40:50
  I do want to Echo and say thank you just for having us.
• 1:40:53
  Hopefully we'll do this again. 3 Peak.
• 1:40:55
  Okay. But you can find us on Instagram
• 1:40:59
  and YouTube at Soul Sistas pot and yeah we Love pink here.
• 1:41:03
  Thanks so much girl. Yeah, we're so honored like this
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  was so much fun. So thank you so much for asking
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  us to be on. This was so much fun.
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  I'm sorry that we had a show that we ended up bashing but
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  that's just how the way I feel bad.
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  How the cookie crumbles? Anyway, that's been our show.
• 1:41:22
  I'm Jessica and this has been a TC presents daebak, a Rambles
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  podcast. Try to hold back.
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  You all. Don't know that you're the one.
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  That's all. Falling too fast.
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  Deeply, I love finding the magic.
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  And the colors. Are you?
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  It's you baby. I'm falling deeper in everything
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  that you are is all.