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The Rita Panahi Show | 8 June · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scoring lids Australia.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Riata Panete Show.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahe Show. I'm
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  Speaker 3: callin Marcus filling in for Rita coming up tonight. Pauline
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  Speaker 3: Hanson is now leading labor for the first time in
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  Speaker 3: Newspoll history, while the coalition is at its lowest point since.
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  Speaker 4: Susan Lee's leadership implosion. I'll discuss that with my panel.
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  Speaker 4: Kids as young.
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  Speaker 3: As twelve are playing past the pronoun and alphabet soup
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  Speaker 3: in schools. Senator Alex Antik, we'll react to that.
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump walks out.
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  Speaker 3: Of an explosive interview with America's NBC. We'll show you
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  Speaker 3: what happened with John Heindeaker and Taylor Swift and Travick
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey's nuptials priced at twenty million dollars d D Dunlevy.
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  Speaker 4: We'll give us a preview. And in left, he's losing it.
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  Speaker 3: A US school treat SI students to a drag show
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  Speaker 3: for Pride months.
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  Speaker 4: On the right, Jack bab I don every break but first.
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  Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson has officially made history. Support for one nation,
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  Speaker 3: now leading labor for the first time in news poll
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  Speaker 3: The latest poll in the Australian shows primary support for
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  Speaker 3: the fringe party rising to thirty one percent. Labor is
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  Speaker 3: just behind on thirty percent, and the Coalition is on
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  Speaker 3: just eighteen percent. This is Labour's lowest point since Julia
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  Speaker 3: Gillard was Prime minister. Anthony Albanesi's net approval rating has
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  Speaker 3: sunk to its lowest level since the twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 3: election at minus twenty four percent. However, Albanizi remains the
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  Speaker 3: preferred prime minister, leading Angus Taylor forty four to thirty
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  Speaker 3: eight percent. Speaking to the media earlier today, the Prime
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  Speaker 3: Minister was quizzed on one Nation's rise.
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  Speaker 5: Who would you rather be up against Angus Taylor or
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  Speaker 5: Pauline Hanson. Well, those are matters for the Australian people.
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  Speaker 6: Boy Hanson is fit to be the prime minister.
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  Speaker 5: I vote Labor, so that's the position that I take.
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  Speaker 3: Although he doesn't know who likes to change his position,
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  Speaker 3: so maybe he'll change his position on that too.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows.
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  Speaker 3: Joining me now is Skynese contributor Louise Roberts and former
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  Speaker 3: Labor MP Michael Danby lewis great to have you on
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  Speaker 3: set with us tonight. Granted this poll was done before
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  Speaker 3: all the confusion over One Nation's housing policy, Barnaby Joyce
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  Speaker 3: having to correct himself on Sky News on late Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not sure that will make too much of
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  Speaker 3: a dent in One Nation's polling. What do you put
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  Speaker 3: down this huge surgeon popularity.
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  Speaker 7: I think the major parties created this.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, every broken promise, every ignored concern. This is
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  Speaker 8: what actually a thirty one percent primary vote for One
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  Speaker 8: Nation looks like. It's all the disillusionment in the electorate
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  Speaker 8: has now led to this. It's actually I would call
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  Speaker 8: a catastrophic indictment on those parties because people see no
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  Speaker 8: other option much to go to Pauline Hanson and One Nation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think we can really call her
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  Speaker 3: party a fringe party anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So it hits up that.
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  Speaker 8: And this won't collapse. I mean that's what there's a
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  Speaker 8: lot of conversation about, well, what will happen.
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  Speaker 7: At the polls.
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  Speaker 8: There's all this protest activity now, but when it comes
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  Speaker 8: to polling, she.
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  Speaker 7: Won't actually win the seats. We can't say that anymore.
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  Speaker 8: She is here to stay, and every week every poll
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  Speaker 8: she grows in popularity.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the Daily Telegraph's own poll showed more than two
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  Speaker 3: thirds of voters sixty six percent would back Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 3: at the next election. Speaking to Sky News last night,
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  Speaker 3: Hanson said voters are looking to One Nation because they
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  Speaker 3: are sick and tired of the major parties.
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  Speaker 4: Just like Louis says, take a look. People are fed
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  Speaker 4: up with politicians.
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  Speaker 9: They really are. They're second tied the major politic parties.
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  Speaker 9: They can't lie straight in bed. They tell them what
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  Speaker 9: they want to, you know, want what they think the
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  Speaker 9: public want to hear, and.
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  Speaker 4: They do differently.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I've always been upfront and eyes with the
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  Speaker 9: public and I'll continue to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Michael, how worried do you think your party Labor would be?
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  Speaker 10: Well, First of all, High Carolina and I Louise, they
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  Speaker 10: should be worrying. One Nation though, and the Coalition combined
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  Speaker 10: together might be close to fifty percent at the moment
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  Speaker 10: on primaries. But the real problem for both of them
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  Speaker 10: is the fact revealed by Redbridge Pole that you can't
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  Speaker 10: convince a minority of Coalition voters and a minority of
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  Speaker 10: One Nation voters to give the other conservative party preferences.
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  Speaker 10: So that's a real problem it's not just that they
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  Speaker 10: exchange preferences. They've got to convince their voters. One Nation
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  Speaker 10: voter have a record of thirty five percent of them
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  Speaker 10: not voting as directed, so that for them is a
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  Speaker 10: real problem. But for the government, they're crazy very large
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  Speaker 10: immigration policy which has seen five hundred thousand people come
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  Speaker 10: to Australia in one year reach nearly a population of
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  Speaker 10: twenty eight million, and that doesn't include huge numbers hundreds
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  Speaker 10: of thousands of students who are here and who don't
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  Speaker 10: go back. So the Australian people resented, particularly after what
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  Speaker 10: happened in December Carolina. People connect high immigration elements of
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  Speaker 10: it are not viewed very well by the Australian people,
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  Speaker 10: and they connect it with Bondai and they don't want
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  Speaker 10: terrorism coming to Australia. So Alba has to be very
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  Speaker 10: careful not to insult One Nation voters that it's going
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  Speaker 10: to stay high. And it's a problem for all of
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  Speaker 10: the major political parts. He's both coalition and government.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bonnie attack was a real turning point, and
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  Speaker 3: I think the fact that the government had allowed such
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  Speaker 3: a high number of refugees to come in from Gaza
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  Speaker 3: without what appeared to be the proper checks being made
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  Speaker 3: was a big indictment on them. And then when Bonni happened,
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  Speaker 3: of course not perpetrated by Garsen refugees, but when it happened,
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people grew even more attracted
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  Speaker 3: to one nation at paul In Hanson, the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Alberizi has condemned a controversial billboard by Melbourne business
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  Speaker 3: owners calling to ditch the witch at the Victorian state election.
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  Speaker 4: Take a look.
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  Speaker 5: What worries me is the misogyny that's involved there. The
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  Speaker 5: sexist campaign targeting the Victorian premier is totally unacceptable and
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  Speaker 5: has no place in public life.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Pauline Hanson, Victorian premieres into Alan to suck it up.
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  Speaker 9: Suck it up, sweetheart, right if you've seen what's happened
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  Speaker 9: to me over the years. I remember years ago Tim
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  Speaker 9: Fisher called me which I should be burned at the stake.
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  Speaker 3: Or Premier Allan herself took to social media on Sunday
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  Speaker 3: to write, sexism just has no place in our political debate,
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  Speaker 3: full stop. I cannot stand back and let Victoria become
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  Speaker 3: a place where this sort of language is fair game
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  Speaker 3: against any woman at work or any woman in leadership.
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  Speaker 3: Australia's only female Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, also waded in
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  Speaker 3: talking about her own name calling, writing in a statement
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  Speaker 3: in the year since my view has been that things
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  Speaker 3: were slowly improving for women in politics. I am saddened
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  Speaker 3: to see that improvement cast aside and this tired.
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  Speaker 4: Old trope resurrected. Louise.
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  Speaker 3: Arguably, Julia Gill, I've made things a lot of worse
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of women, notably by changing the sexist
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  Speaker 3: Gomination Act, taking out the biological definition of women inviting
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  Speaker 3: men into women's spaces. But what do you think of
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  Speaker 3: this billboard and some of the attacks that it's got
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  Speaker 3: from politicians.
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  Speaker 7: Well, no one's defending the billboard.
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  Speaker 8: It's crass and it's obviously offensive, but it has handed
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  Speaker 8: to Cincera out on the one thing I think she
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  Speaker 8: desperately needs, which is sympathy, and it also actually masks
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  Speaker 8: a real issue which is seems to be like the
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  Speaker 8: end of day's revolt going on in the labor government.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, should be lucky to being a job by
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  Speaker 8: the end of the week. And Pauline's made that point
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  Speaker 8: of course as well, by telling her to suck.
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  Speaker 7: It up, sweetheart.
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  Speaker 8: But you know they're talking about a billboard on truck
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  Speaker 8: when really they should be looking at their own situation
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  Speaker 8: behind the doors at the Premier's office and thinking.
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  Speaker 7: How can we actually survive this week?
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  Speaker 8: Because it's clear that not only is their disillusionment in
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  Speaker 8: the electorate, it's within their own party ranks.
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  Speaker 4: They warn her out Michael.
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  Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson, as we've played there, has told just sent
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  Speaker 3: to Alan to suck it up.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, she has a point too.
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  Speaker 3: There are many conservative women who have called much worse
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  Speaker 3: than that. I'm sure Louise can attest to this too,
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  Speaker 3: I know I have. And women in the right, even
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  Speaker 3: of the Labor Party is pulling right that this is
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  Speaker 3: just part and parcel of politics, or that there is
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  Speaker 3: some kind of double standard at play when it is
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  Speaker 3: only women on the left who are attacked. When there's
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  Speaker 3: a huge up there, there's a huge uproar.
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  Speaker 10: Well, you're right, Caroline, You and Cherry Markson and Louise
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  Speaker 10: have been unfairly attacked. And even my late friend Senator
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  Speaker 10: Kimberley Kitchling was unfairly attacked by Senator Penny Wong, who
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  Speaker 10: the ABC portray as a saint. But Caroline, there's enough
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  Speaker 10: grounds to criticize just Cinda Allen without focusing on the
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  Speaker 10: women's side of things, the huge state debt, that collapse
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  Speaker 10: in services. It was a machete brawl in Flinder Street
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  Speaker 10: station last night between a gang, where all of the
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  Speaker 10: main station commuters had their lives threatened by these people,
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  Speaker 10: and she installs a thirteen million dollar mashety bins all
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  Speaker 10: over them. So honestly, it's the worst state government and
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  Speaker 10: it flows straight from the same ideological veins as Elbow.
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  Speaker 10: It's the socialist left. These people are not normal labor people.
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  Speaker 10: They're not the Bob Hawks, the Paul Keatings are the
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  Speaker 10: Kim Beasleys of yester year. They are radical, they are wrong,
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  Speaker 10: and they ought to be defeated. But the question is
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  Speaker 10: with their Green mates, will they scrape back in in
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  Speaker 10: the Victorian state election in November.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, we'll have to see.
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  Speaker 3: And I was thinking about your friend Kimberly Kinching as
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  Speaker 3: well when I said people on the right of that party,
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  Speaker 3: what she went through from people within her own party
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  Speaker 3: was appalling, and yet that was name that was never
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  Speaker 3: any apologies or any self awareness about that. Let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about Employment Minister aman At Rishworth, who's told Sky News
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  Speaker 3: Fair Work Commissioner Jennifer Hunt that she could be removed
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  Speaker 3: from her position after she decried Gillard's changes to the
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  Speaker 3: Sex Discrimination Act that we just mentioned and its impact
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  Speaker 3: on women's only spaces.
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  Speaker 11: Well, look, I'm seeking advice from my department about this.
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  Speaker 11: It's very important that I get the right advice and
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  Speaker 11: so I'm doing that. But you're right, the Fair Work
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  Speaker 11: Commission does need to be held in good needs to
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  Speaker 11: be respected across Australia.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this comes after Miss Hunt allegedly criticized the
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  Speaker 3: Albanese government's federal budget and supported calls to change the
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  Speaker 3: Sex Discrimination Act to protect women and girls. Louise, surely
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  Speaker 3: she is entitled to a personal view about these matters,
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  Speaker 3: and I should note that if she was sacked, well,
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  Speaker 3: the government could face a case between her own Fair
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  Speaker 3: Work Commission for unfair dismissal.
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  Speaker 7: Exactly. That's exactly the poor Caroline as well.
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  Speaker 8: But so a fee Work commissioner is saying women are
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  Speaker 8: women and girls deserve a safe space and the Albanese
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  Speaker 8: government are looking at where they can fire her for that.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's the incredulous situation to find ourselves in
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  Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: I just can't believe that you know that that is
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  Speaker 3: a controversial view in this day and age.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about sportsmen.
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  Speaker 3: As to Anaka Wells's travel expenses, they are again in
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  Speaker 3: the spotlight after it was revealed she's spent hundreds of
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  Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars using chauffeur driven cars for short rides around
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  Speaker 3: Camera instead of catching an uber or a taxi like
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  Speaker 3: the rest of us, or god forbid, public transport. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how much of that they have in camera though,
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  Speaker 3: For reference, a three kilometer trip from Parks to Kingston
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  Speaker 3: and June twenty twenty two ended up costing the taxpayer
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  Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty seven dollars in the com car about.
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  Speaker 4: Forty eight bucks a minute.
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  Speaker 3: When I asked to comment about these short trips, Wells
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  Speaker 3: blamed unexpected delays.
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  Speaker 4: Michael.
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  Speaker 3: This is the same MP who earlier this year was
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  Speaker 3: ordered to pay back more than ten thousand after an
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  Speaker 3: audit founding breached taxpayer funded travel rules four times. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think anyone has much sympathy for her excuses this time,
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  Speaker 3: do they?
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  Speaker 10: I think she's very lucky to have survived last time, Caroline,
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  Speaker 10: and this is just silly. She should have called an
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  Speaker 10: uber or used her own Commonwealth funded vehicle to drive
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  Speaker 10: there herself. Look, unfortunately both she and Amanda are members
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  Speaker 10: of the so called Right of the Labor Party in Canberra.
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  Speaker 10: They're a colorless lot and it's an example of how
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  Speaker 10: the Right of the Labor Party, which used to include
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  Speaker 10: Keating and Beasley and Hawk and would make a real
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  Speaker 10: difference and would never have agreed to all of these
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  Speaker 10: crazy socialist left policies that Jim Chalmers has to come
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  Speaker 10: as government policy. So you know, they come and they go.
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  Speaker 10: People barely remember their names, but they do get annoyed
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  Speaker 10: by their high expenditures of things that could have been
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  Speaker 10: done in a cheaper way, especially with huge cambrid diet
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  Speaker 10: that people see piling up all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just because something is within the rules like COMCRS,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean it passes the pub test at all. Now,
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  Speaker 3: a renter has sparked outrage after she was told to
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  Speaker 3: remove an Australian flag from her home during a routine
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  Speaker 3: inspection because it could make her look like a quote target.
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  Speaker 12: Take a look this morning, we had a routine house
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  Speaker 12: inspection and the first thing that the real estate said
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  Speaker 12: when she got to the front door is I'm going
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  Speaker 12: to have to take this Australian flag down before I
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  Speaker 12: can start the inspection. I just looked at her and said, okay,
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  Speaker 12: sure whatever. Obviously she proceeded to tell me that she
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  Speaker 12: doesn't have an issue with it, it's whatever, but the
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  Speaker 12: owner belieze by having it up our house might become
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  Speaker 12: a target.
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  Speaker 3: Michael and Louise, I'll start with you first, Louise, this
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  Speaker 3: is ridiculous. Flying the Australian flag now makes peace a target.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, apparently it's offensive as well and controversial. So the
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  Speaker 8: symbol of building this country, fighting for this country, dying
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  Speaker 8: for this country, you cannot actually hoist the flag outside
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  Speaker 8: your own home. And I have to say that a
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  Speaker 8: young person wanted to do this. That did actually make
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  Speaker 8: me feel quite proud the fact that they are still
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  Speaker 8: advocating and fighting for the right to show our flag.
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  Speaker 8: I thought that was terrific. But she's right to actually
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  Speaker 8: call it out because it's not an offense. It's in fact,
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  Speaker 8: it's arguably offensive.
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  Speaker 7: Not to have the Australian flag.
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  Speaker 3: Michael quick comment for you, but I have a feeling
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  Speaker 3: that if it was an Aboriginal flag, a Pride one,
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  Speaker 3: even a Palestinian flag, maybe the real estate agent wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have dad to make such a demand.
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  Speaker 10: Perhaps it explains that mentality why we can't attract fifty
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  Speaker 10: five thousand people to the Australian Defense Forces. I wear
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  Speaker 10: this Australia badge quite often and I do notice when
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  Speaker 10: I go to coffee shops and gendrified Norman. It does
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  Speaker 10: make some people do the loop. As President Nixon used
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  Speaker 10: to say.
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  Speaker 4: What good on you for wearing it.
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  Speaker 3: Louise Roberts and Michael Dan, thank you both so much
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  Speaker 3: for your time. Thanks, let's continue our discussion on the
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  Speaker 3: rise of One Nation and joining me now as Liberals
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  Speaker 3: Senator for South Australia, Alex Antick. Alex, great to see you.
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  Speaker 3: I've spoken already about the latest news polls showing One
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  Speaker 3: Nation has searched a head of labor for the first
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  Speaker 3: time in the poll's history, but the results also show
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  Speaker 3: the Coalition at its lowest point since the end of
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  Speaker 3: Susan Lee's leadership. The Coalition, of course moved further to
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  Speaker 3: the right with the Angus Taylor and Matt Canavan, assuming
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  Speaker 3: the leaderships of their parties. Yeah, voters are still turning
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  Speaker 3: to pull in Hanson. Why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 13: Well, I think it's Carolin. It's a bit of a
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  Speaker 13: phenomenon at the moment. I think we're seeing that trend
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  Speaker 13: line continue. And look, I think as it stands Angus
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  Speaker 13: and Matter doing a great job. They're really coming out
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  Speaker 13: of the blocks. But you have to be able to
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  Speaker 13: get that sold and get that message across and that
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  Speaker 13: takes time. So there is still a bit of time
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  Speaker 13: before the next election. The numbers are worrying. I mean
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  Speaker 13: that trendline is certainly worrying for the coalition, of course.
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  Speaker 13: And you know my view is as it's been for
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  Speaker 13: the longest time, and that is that, you know, we
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  Speaker 13: need to be heeding the advice of those who've said
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  Speaker 13: there are policies which we should be tackling that one
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  Speaker 13: nation of tackling and tackling successfully which we need to
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  Speaker 13: consider it adopt. And I think you know that that
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  Speaker 13: will show, that will be a fruit in terms of
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  Speaker 13: the polls, and it will be a fruitcome election time
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  Speaker 13: as well. But we've got to give Angus and Matt
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  Speaker 13: some time. They're both very good operators. They're both very
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  Speaker 13: good blokes as well, and they're going to get that
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  Speaker 13: message across.
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  Speaker 3: Your liberal colleague Andrew Hasty. He's come out swinging against
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  Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson over her Trump support and quote MAGA first mindset,
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  Speaker 3: in what's been called one of the most direct critiques
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  Speaker 3: of the One Nation leader from an opposition MP. What
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  Speaker 3: did you make of Hasty's intervention here? Do you think
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  Speaker 3: it's helpful or do you think it would be smarter
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  Speaker 3: for the co A lesson to be trying to work
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  Speaker 3: with one Nation rather than just slamming them at this point?
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  Speaker 14: Yeah?
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  Speaker 13: Well, look, I mean I think the first observation there is, Caroline,
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  Speaker 13: we are here as a center right to remove this
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  Speaker 13: awful labor government. That should be our number one priority.
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  Speaker 13: This country cannot sustain much more of this on a
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  Speaker 13: range of levels, the economic one being the most critical
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  Speaker 13: at this point, I think, and look, I would say
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  Speaker 13: to that, I don't think either Angus, sorry, Andrew or
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  Speaker 13: Pauline are anything but Australia First. I think they both are,
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  Speaker 13: and I don't think it's right to suggest that Pauline's
• 18:35
  Speaker 13: MARGA first by anything. I mean, I have stood back
• 18:38
  Speaker 13: and admired that movement a bit like I admired the
• 18:40
  Speaker 13: Brexit movement for what it was able to achieve. But
• 18:43
  Speaker 13: that doesn't make you America making America great again. First,
• 18:46
  Speaker 13: I'm unashamedly Australia first. I think Andrew is he served
• 18:50
  Speaker 13: his country and he's continued to show that in Parliament,
• 18:53
  Speaker 13: and I think Pauline has too. So look, my great
• 18:56
  Speaker 13: hope is that the center right in this in this
• 18:58
  Speaker 13: country can ban together a little bit. And what that
• 19:00
  Speaker 13: looks like I don't know, but ultimately, if it means
• 19:03
  Speaker 13: some sort of coalition, I mean, I'm only a backbencher,
• 19:05
  Speaker 13: but I just want to see this country save because
• 19:08
  Speaker 13: it is in dire straits at the moment, and I
• 19:11
  Speaker 13: don't think the attacks on each other are very helpful
• 19:14
  Speaker 13: from either side.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: So you would be open to the Liberal Party forming
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: a coalition with One Nation.
• 19:19
  Speaker 13: Or Liberal now, I absolutely absolutely would be. I don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 13: see any problem. We have to be realistic about what
• 19:25
  Speaker 13: we can do. And as I said, this is all
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: about saving Australia and saving Australia from this Labor government
• 19:31
  Speaker 13: which is doing so much damage at the moment. So
• 19:33
  Speaker 13: if that's the way it plays out, then the one
• 19:36
  Speaker 13: thing we don't want to see is a labor government
• 19:38
  Speaker 13: back in the lodge for another three years after the
• 19:42
  Speaker 13: next election. That just can't be sustained.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Let's return to this ditch the witch campaign running against
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the Victorian premier in Melbourne. The Prime Minister has slammed it,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: while Pauline Hanson has told Jacinta Allan to suck it up,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and former National's leader David little Brown says politicians are
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: game when it comes to attack ads like this. What
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: is your view, Alex should the billboard be allowed to stay?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 13: Look, I mean, look, it's not language that I would
• 20:10
  Speaker 13: use personally for a range of reasons. But it's got
• 20:14
  Speaker 13: the attention, hasn't it. And I do think it's a
• 20:16
  Speaker 13: bit interesting to hear the criticism of it. I mean
• 20:20
  Speaker 13: I don't recall hearing much criticism in the in the
• 20:23
  Speaker 13: days and many many instances when Peter Dutton was attacked
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: for various reasons, including in the purported looks. You know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 13: I think people called him all sorts of things over
• 20:32
  Speaker 13: the course, and that was never called out by the
• 20:35
  Speaker 13: left of politics in this country. And I should also
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: say there was an incident late last year involving three
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: labor MPs, which was reported playing a game of I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 13: I want to repeat the language, but it begins with
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: you know, shoot or marry. And there's another one in
• 20:50
  Speaker 13: there as well, a little game they're playing it that
• 20:51
  Speaker 13: seemed to get almost no publicity as well. Now, if
• 20:54
  Speaker 13: it had been three blokes doing that, you can guarantee
• 20:56
  Speaker 13: that there would have been hell to pay. So I
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: think the left of politics has got to start getting
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: a bit consistent. We would have more time for those
• 21:03
  Speaker 13: criticisms if they were prepared to call it out when
• 21:05
  Speaker 13: it didn't run in one direction only.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, there's definitely a double standard there. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: while I don't like the language either, I don't think
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: women should be treated any differently from men.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Men shouldn't be attacked.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Either in these dirty ways. So I think you're a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: dead right on that. Let's go to a topic I
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: know is close to your heart.
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: Alex.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Parents and educators are calling for an overhaul of how
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: gender and sexuality are being taught in schools amid concerns
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: activist teachers are expressing ideological views that go well beyond
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: the approved syllabus. It's been revealed students as young as
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: twelve are being encouraged to take part in activities such
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: as past the pronouns and alphabet soup as part of
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: new classroom materials teaching them gender is fluid Now. This
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: is a teaching guide that's been developed by the University
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: of Sydney and it's been promoted by the News Upholds
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Teachers Federation as an inclusive classroom resource for secondary students. Alex,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: how concerning is this, Well.
• 22:03
  Speaker 13: Caroline has been concerning for a long period of time,
• 22:05
  Speaker 13: and we've seen this creep of this ideology into schools
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: for a long, long, long time now, and it's not news.
• 22:10
  Speaker 13: And I note that the Menzies Research Center and doctor
• 22:13
  Speaker 13: Kevin Donnelly, who's been a great advocate for straightening out
• 22:17
  Speaker 13: the school system, has released a report very recently reported today,
• 22:20
  Speaker 13: I think of the News Limited papers that he called
• 22:23
  Speaker 13: for a complete overhaul of the syllables from a range
• 22:25
  Speaker 13: of reasons, not the least of which being some of
• 22:27
  Speaker 13: these ideology creeping in, but also what he called ju babble.
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: I think I got that right. So look, I think
• 22:34
  Speaker 13: the system does need that. There's a lot of concern
• 22:36
  Speaker 13: from parents that I speak to about the sorts of
• 22:39
  Speaker 13: teaching that's been brought into the classroom, sometimes by other
• 22:43
  Speaker 13: providers who are often providing things like other forms of training,
• 22:47
  Speaker 13: whether the ideology is baked in, but certainly in the
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: classrooms as well. I mean you only have to go
• 22:52
  Speaker 13: down to a local school to see it emblazoned in places.
• 22:56
  Speaker 13: And we've had many many complaints in South Australia from
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: schools that are just sort of you know, coming up
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: with these you know, the these teaching guidelines on off
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: their own bats. So we have to be careful with this.
• 23:09
  Speaker 13: We've got to get serious about it as well. It's
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: up to mostly the state governments of course, but the
• 23:13
  Speaker 13: federal government can make a statement here based on funding
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: as well. That's what I would like to see. I
• 23:18
  Speaker 13: would like to see that. I think we will see
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: that out of a coalition government.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a district court case coming up in
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: your state over one of those third party providers doing
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: a class on beast reality, among other things, in a
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: school in South Australia. So it's definitely happening and has
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: been for a long time.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Before I let you go, I wanted to get your
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: thoughts on Labour's National Artificial Intelligence Plan, which aims to
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: position Australia as a leading destination for AI data center investment. Alex,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: we keep hearing that AI is the future. So why
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you skeptical of this plan?
• 23:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, like I said at an email, I do
• 23:57
  Speaker 13: it every two weeks to support us, just to sort
• 24:00
  Speaker 13: of run the flag up on this one, because I
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: don't think it's getting enough attention. We're told in this
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: AI a document that the Labor government has put that
• 24:09
  Speaker 13: it's this all about attracting as much investment in AI
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: data centers as we can in this country. For people
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: who don't know, these are basically giant, great computing hubs.
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: Of course, a lot of controversy in the United States.
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: They use a lot of power, so what are they
• 24:21
  Speaker 13: going to do to our power prices? They use a
• 24:23
  Speaker 13: lot of water in a country that's extremely dry, and
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: they're being rolled out all over Australia and planned for many,
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: many more in the future, with a lot of investment
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: coming in from some serious heavy hitters overseas. The thing
• 24:34
  Speaker 13: that I think is getting overlooked though, is what have
• 24:37
  Speaker 13: people been asked whether or not they want this? Is
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: there a case for them. Have they been able to
• 24:42
  Speaker 13: show that they won't take more jobs than they create,
• 24:45
  Speaker 13: which I think is a real problem. And also my
• 24:47
  Speaker 13: greatest fear out of all of this is that we
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: are effectively waving through the nerve centers of the future
• 24:53
  Speaker 13: surveillance network, the kind of thing that ties into our
• 24:56
  Speaker 13: digital ID, that ties into a future central bank digital currency.
• 25:00
  Speaker 13: And of course there's this great meme going around with
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: Sarah Connor looking out as we build data centers, you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: looking wistfully over from the movie Terminator too. I think
• 25:11
  Speaker 13: there's a lot more explaining to be done here and
• 25:12
  Speaker 13: I'd like to see this perhaps given more consideration than
• 25:16
  Speaker 13: just this will be great for you, trust us. I
• 25:18
  Speaker 13: think Ozzie's are going to start to really start to
• 25:20
  Speaker 13: understand and we need to what this is all about
• 25:23
  Speaker 13: and whether or not it's good for Australians, because I
• 25:24
  Speaker 13: am extremely skeptical.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be have the potential to be real
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: big brother stuff. Alex Antique, thank you so much for
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: your time tonight. Thanks Karen. Still to come Left is
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: losing it plus tensions in the Middle East escalade as
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Israel strikes back at Iran that John heindereker joins me name,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: welcome back. I'm Caroline Marcus, filling in for Rita Panahre
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and now it's time for left He's losing it over.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: In the US, it's Pride Month, which invariably means even
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: more lefties losing it over things like flags, pronouns, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: the rights of men to be in women's spaces. Take
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: this queer activist in Virginia who claimed her young son
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: was left traumatized after being taught babies are conceived by
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: men and women. Last week, my son at Campbell got
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the sex ad talk in health class and was told
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: children only can come from men and women. He came
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: home crying, Oh the horror, God forbid he learns the
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: actual science behind reproduction. Maybe that mother should consider moving
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the poor boy to this school in Washington, which treated
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: its students to a drag show. O.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Fine, let's be intrus on the right, checked baby, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: was so bad.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I'm on the right, checked baby.
• 26:58
  Speaker 16: I was ba.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure what's more disturbing.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: They're the costumes or the stripper moves in front of children,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: but the fact the district school board director apparently owns
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: an adult store that offers sex and classes.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: To kids, speaks volumes.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Meantime, check out these protesters booing as a rainbow flag
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: is lowered in a New York town after counselors past
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: emotion declaring only official flag should fly on city property alone.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Activist tries to block them by holding a trans Pride flag.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Even though many lefties don't seem to be able to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: define what a woman is anymore, that doesn't stop them
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: from protesting on our behalf.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Not that they can tell us.
• 28:00
  Speaker 15: Why what rights do men have that women don't.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I think I'm done here today, guys.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Now, let's take a look at Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingle
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: abusing a voter for daring to vote Republican.
• 28:24
  Speaker 17: You know, I don't appreciate being told for not doing
• 28:27
  Speaker 17: enough when I voted on two more resolutions. Spek, you
• 28:31
  Speaker 17: have elected a Republican Congress in this state. Help do it,
• 28:35
  Speaker 17: and they won't bring it up. So don't go after
• 28:37
  Speaker 17: Democrats that are speaking up and speaking up.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yep, Swearing at your constituents is always a surefire vote winner.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And here's an anti ice liberal explaining how going outside
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: your house is now considered privilege if you're.
• 28:54
  Speaker 18: In Chicago, going out like there's nothing to remember that
• 28:56
  Speaker 18: there's privilege to that has been all over the city.
• 29:01
  Speaker 18: Nouns that yesterday they took eleven people, eleven people that
• 29:05
  Speaker 18: did not come home.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: No, lady, that's not privilege. That's called being a legal citizen.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump has confirmed he is not ruling
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: out putting American troops on the ground in Iran to
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: quote very harshly retrieve and destroy its nuclear stockpile, despite
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: believing an end to the conflict is near.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: This is what he told NBC's Meet the Press.
• 29:32
  Speaker 17: Will you and would you be open to sending in
• 29:35
  Speaker 17: US forces to retrieve the nuclear.
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: Style So the official name is highly enriched Uranian and
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: I call it nuclear dust because it seems to be
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: nice and everyone understands it better and it's so.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Cute and people picked it up.
• 29:50
  Speaker 19: But the way you do it is if we make
• 29:53
  Speaker 19: it deal, If we.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: Make it, do that now, are friendly.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: We'll all go together.
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: It'll be our equipment.
• 29:57
  Speaker 19: We'll take it out and destroy it, whether it's on
• 30:00
  Speaker 19: site or whether we take it off site.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: So that would require US forces.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that will we will have a deal.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: We'll be friendly. In other words, we will have made a.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Deal, joining me now to discuss this and more. Is
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: president at the center of the American experiment? John Heindereicher,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: What do you make of this commitment from Trump? I mean,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: he's been criticized before for not following through on his threats.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Do you think he will this time and put troops
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: on the ground, or do you have faith that a
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: deal could be struck around might do something by itself.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't have confidence that a deal to dispose
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: of the uranium will be struck. If it happens, great,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but I think it's more likely that one of two
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: things will happen. One we might send in troops to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: recover the uranium, which Trump was suggesting this morning. Trump
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: obviously wants to keep that possibility on the table, but
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I think it is unlikely that would be a hard,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: dangerous mission. Or alternatively, we could use bombing to make
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the uranium inaccessible. I think that is the more likely choice,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: along with having already destroyed the facilities that they need
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to continue enriching or to actually turn the uranium into
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a bomb. Those facilities are reportedly gone, so for the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: foreseeable future, whether it has the uranium or not Iran
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: won't be able to make a nuclear bomb, and that is.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: The ultimate goal here.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: But some of the uranium resources have been bunker deep underground.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Would bombing be sufficient? Well, at some.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Level, I think at what Carolina, I mean, you don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: necessarily have to blow up the uranium, but you can
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: blow the whole surrounding area, and you can blow up
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: anybody that tries to go near it. I mean, I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: think at some level, yeah, bombing could isolate the uranium.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Well, Meanwhile, the Pentagon has raised its counter intelligence threat level.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: For Israel to its highest level.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: US media is reporting the Pentagon's defense intelligence agencies said
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Israel's ability to conduct human espionage and technical collection is
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: at a critical level. That this comes as around launched
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: missiles at Israel on Sunday in response to Israeli strikes
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: on Beirut's southern suburbs in Lebanon. John, What does this
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: mean to raise the counter intelligence threat level for a
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: country and why would the US do this for Israel,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: which is meant to be its close allin and of
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: course it's partner in this conflict.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Well, this is a report from NBC News based on
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: an alleged leak by someone in the intelligence community. What
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: it means is that Israel supposedly has been spying on
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: US officials trying to gain insight into our strategy with
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: regard to Iran. Now that report has been denied both
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: by the White House and by Israeli officials. But I
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: think allies do spy on each other to some degree
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: all the time, always looking for intelligence. And certainly there's
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a high level of concern in Israel about what is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: going to happen in Iran. But this story appears to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: be a plant by anti Trump and anti Israel people
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in one of the intelligence agencies and at NBC, and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think they are trying to drive a wedge between
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the US and Israel. I don't take the report very seriously.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, there would be a lot of skepticism when
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: it comes to this conflict and how it's being handled
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: by the US and Israel. So yeah, it sounds like
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: someone has has it out for Trump and this conflict
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and what Israel's doing as well. John, the conflict in
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: a run now has reached one hundred days. What is
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the feeling among Americans about this war? Are those who
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: were supportive of Trump to start off with, are they
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: still backing him?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Well, Caroline, people would like to see the situation resolve,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but we aren't incurring casualty. So the only real pressure
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: on the administration relates to the price of gasoline. Democrats
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: are driving a lot of hysteria over gas prices, even
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: though they were higher at times during both the Obama
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: administration and the Biden administration. Trump says he doesn't care
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't feel any pressure to act quickly, and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: his actions certainly seem to bear that out. But meanwhile,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think the important thing is that Trump's base is
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: with him. At some point, they may get tired of
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the situation in Iran, but that hasn't happened yet.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Let's go back to this interview that the President did
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: with the NBC, which we showed a little bit of earlier.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: In which he dramatically walks out of.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Later on, after he was asked about the twenty twenty election,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump used the interview to repeat his claims about
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: electoral fraud. NBC host Kristin Welker was having none of that, though,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: proclaiming that Trump administration had no evidence to back up
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: those claims, and it led to an argument resulting in
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Trump terminating the interview.
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Take a look, let's call it quits because I've had enough.
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Darling.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: This country can never be great. Traveled with listen.
• 35:10
  Speaker 17: We traveled all the way to Wisconsin.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: John, What did you make of that walkout? There had
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: been weather disruptions too during that interview. There was a
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: big storm, and Welker says Trump has agreed to give
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: her another interview after that, but it's not a great look.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, Caroline. The press is hostile toward Trump,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and Trump sometimes returns that hostility, even though he also
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: makes himself available to the press more than any president
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: in history. This walkout today started with the reporter Christen
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Welker arguing with Trump about the fund to compensate victims
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of government weaponization. The fund is actually a decent idea,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: but Welker immediately wanted to argue about the January sixth
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: protest and about election integrity. She repeatedly claimed that there's
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: no evidence of election impropriety, which is ridiculous, and so
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Trump ended the interview. Is it a good luck? I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe not, But Trump's supporters like it when
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: he battles with the press.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, speaking of hostile press, Former sixteen Minutes journalist
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Scott Pelley has broken down in an interview after his
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: recent firing from the network, and he's compared the acting
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: and the acting of other colleagues to his family being murdered.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Take a look, get out.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Of the office by five o'clock. What company in the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: world treats their precious people in that way? The callousness,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the inhumanity, breathtaking, complete lack of empathy in this management
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: for anyone who works there.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: I can hear how much this has hurt you.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's like your spouse being murdered.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Extraordinary comparison.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: He also takes a jab John at the president, suggesting
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Trump has not done as much for America as he has.
• 37:17
  Speaker 14: I've never worn the uniform, but I've been in combat
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: for this country in Afghanistan and Iraq Kuwait, been shot at,
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: spent nights in foxholes, filling up with.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Water in the desert. I'm not aware that the President
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: of the United States has ever done any of those
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: things for his country. Please correct me if.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I'm wrong, John.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: It was all incredibly self indulgent and dramatic. How is
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: that interview being received?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Well, Pelly is a drama queen, honestly skeptical that he
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: has spent a lot of time in foxholes. But the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: reason why Pelly was fired is that he publicly attacked
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the people who run CBS News in sixty Minutes. They
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: had no choice but to let him go, and he
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: knew that. The reality is that Pelly is a left
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: wing hack. He has repeatedly pedled misinformation. Sixty Minutes has
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: become known as an unreliable news source. Rather Gate is
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the most famous instance of that, but it's one of
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: really just many that show badly needs to be completely retooled.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I think there are very few people who care about
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Scott Pelley's drama.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Now, John, I have to get your reaction to Democratic
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Maine Senate candidate Graham Plattner, who spoke over the weekend
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and said his critics are using his past against him.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I wonder why, let's take a look.
• 38:52
  Speaker 15: Now as every single piece of that past and journey
• 38:55
  Speaker 15: gets dug up, litigated, and weaponized.
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  Speaker 3: You have my back, John, I hate to burst Graham's
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: bubble here, but let's take a look at this guy's past.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: He's been accused of calling rural Americans racist, said all
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: police officers were bastards, has had multiple women accuse him
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: of intimidatory behavior, and to top it all off, he's
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: had a Nazi tattoo for years on his chest. I
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: kind of think all of those points are relevant for
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: his running for office.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Well, as with any candidate, you look at their past,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: of course you do. You look at their record. And
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: as you say, I mean Platner, a self described communist
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: with a Nazi tattoo, who sexts it up to a
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: dozen women when he was a newlywed, bitterly attacked a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: US soldier who was badly wounded trying to protect his
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: fellow soldiers. It goes on and on, and many people
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: have concluded that Platner's past shows that he's a person
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: of low character who is not fit to serve in
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the US setup. That's how it works. Voters obviously want
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to know what sort of a person you are.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I want to finish with California because votes are still
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: being counted to determine the election for their governor. However,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: we do know that former Health and Human Services Secretary
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Javier Passera has advanced to the November general election. Now
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: his opponent for that election has yet to be determined.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Former Fox News hosts Steve Hilton, a Republican, and billionaire
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: active ast Tom Steyer, a Democrat, are the leading candidates
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: for second place in the all party primary. John, why
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: is it that there's vote counting in California? It seems
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to be taking so long.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Well, California mails out ballots to every registered voter, of
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: whom there are twenty three million in that state, and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: eighty percent of California voters vote by mail, and they
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: count ballots that arrive up to a week after election day,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and then counties have up to thirty days to count them.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So that's why the process is so slow. But what
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: is suspicious is that these late arriving ballots consistently and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: overwhelmingly favored Democrats. There's a great deal of ballot harvesting
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: going on right up to election day, and some people
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: suspect that it continues after election day.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: John Heinreicher, thanks for joining us.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Great to be with you.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Caroline coming up, Taylor swhipped and Travis Kelsey's nuptiles priced
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: at are whopping twenty million dollars. Dde Dunleavy joins me
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: next for the latest in entertainment news. Welcome back, actor
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: and so called comedian Rosie O'Donnell is back in America
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: and has taken another swipe of President Trump.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Take a look.
• 41:56
  Speaker 19: If you grew up in New York, you knew he
• 41:58
  Speaker 19: was an asshole and a liar for day one. And
• 42:01
  Speaker 19: I am sixty four years old and my whole life here.
• 42:04
  Speaker 19: So I remember when his planes were repossessed off the
• 42:06
  Speaker 19: runways at LaGuardia. I remember when he was broke. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 19: remember when he would call up places and pretend to
• 42:12
  Speaker 19: be his own publicist. He is a kind man. He
• 42:15
  Speaker 19: is a narcissist, and he is a psychopath. If you
• 42:18
  Speaker 19: asked me, how do you think he'll be greeted at
• 42:20
  Speaker 19: a miss ginamorrow now with a lot of booze? And
• 42:22
  Speaker 19: I'm happy to hear it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Joining me now is broadcaster D D. Dunlevy? Did he?
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I thought Rosie was never going to return to America
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: under Trump's presidency.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, she just couldn't help her South Caroline. I think
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: she thought in her mind that she was some sort
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: of political exile, a martyr to the progressive cause, when
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: in actual fact, nobody cared that she'd lost left the
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: US and nobody cared that she was in Ireland. To remember,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: towards the end of last year, Karl Stefanovic interviewed her
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: on Sixty Minutes and she talked about a lollipop lady
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: in Ireland who had no idea who she was. And
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: I think in that same interview, actually she compared herself
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: to Martin.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Luth the King. So she just hates Donald Trump so much,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: she's obsessed.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: With him, and she's got the audacity to call him
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: a narcissist, Whereas I think she's a narcissist. If she
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: thinks that the President of the United States gives her
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: even a second of thought, then she's got roxy her head.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: She's got the worst case of Trump derangement syndrome I
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: think that we've ever seen y.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: She definitely has it bad.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: And I think she struggled with her own irrelevancy living
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: in another country. She had to come back and live
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: under ooh, the Donald Trump presidency, didn't she Kim Kardashian. Meanwhile,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: she's being blasted for completely ignoring iconic formula one reporter
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Martin Brundle over the weekend at the Monaco Grand Prix
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: take a look at this awkward exchange.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: Are you enjoying one?
• 43:49
  Speaker 17: Yeah?
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: Okay, ken of Chloe, So we're not talking today. I
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: let's believe they might do.
• 43:57
  Speaker 11: Did he?
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: She could have just said she was excited to be
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: there to support her boyfriend Lewis Hamilton. How hard is that?
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: This meanwhile, looked plain rude.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: Well, if you don't mind, I'll disagree with you on that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: I actually didn't think it was rude at all. She
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: had a smile on her face. She looked slightly confused
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: by what was going on. I think Martin Brundle has
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: manufactured this whole thing, and I think he's absolutely loving it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you why. He's had a couple of
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: run ins like this before, one with an actress called
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: Carl Cara Delvin who chose not to speak to him,
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: and back in twenty twenty one, a rapper by the
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: name of Megan V. Stallion refused to speak to him,
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: and in that incident, her bodyguard sort of shewed him away.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: So Martin Brundle complained to f one and they issued
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: a new ruling that no bodyguards for VIPs would be
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: allowed on the pitwalk, but there's no obligation for celebrities
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: to speak to him, and I just think it shows
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: he's got a giant ego, if I can just read
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: it quite actually, from back when that happened, he said,
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: I sort of like it if they ignore me, to
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: be honest, to call out some of the celebs that
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: I think are just using the grid a little bit,
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: like they don't have real passion. So I think he
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: thinks that Kim didn't belong there. He's enjoying embarrassing her,
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: and I don't think she deserved that. I think his
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: poor little boy feelings are a bit hurt because the
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: pretty girl wouldn't speak to him.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Oh did he?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I think you're being very harsh there. I think she
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: could have just said hello.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: How hard is that? I mean spaced courtesy?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe not, but I think if you're going to go
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: to that event in a tight fitting dress and draw
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: attention to yourself, then expect a few reporters to be
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: asking you questions. Look, let's go now to the wedding
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: of one of the most famous couples in the world,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and footballer Travis Kelcey. It's been revealed their
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: ceremony could cost up to twenty million dollars if they
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: have it at New York's Madison Square Garden, as rumored,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: one wedding planner told The New York Post, a weekend
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: night at one of the most iconic venues in the
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: world is not just about renting the space. Once you
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: add productions, security, catering, entertainment, and decorp, a Madison Square
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Guarden wedding could very realistically become a ten million to
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: twenty million dollar plus event. Another report suggests their guest
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: list could stretch between one thousand and twelve hundred guests.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Far from an intimate affair, did he I know weddings
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: are expensive, and she's one of the world's richest people,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: but twenty million dollars, I don't know, seems excessive.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: It is absolutely is, But I'm not sure what else
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: they can do. I mean, the only alternative really is
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: to slip away to some quiet tropical island and get
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: married in private. But they shouldn't have to do that.
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: Everyone should be entitled to celebrate their wedding day as
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: they want to. And we know that Taylor Swift has
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: lived in New York, she loves New York. She's written
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: a song about New York and if they were going
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: to choose a venue within, you know, on Manhattan, then
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: Madison Square Garden is a perfect place because people can
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: get in and out via an underground car park and
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: once they're inside, the windows to the outside. So it
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: does offer a great degree of privacy and they should
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: be allowed to have all the friends that they want.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: They could certainly afford it. It seems excessive to me,
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: certainly a lot bigger than my wedding, But you know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: I can't. I can't wish ill on them, even though
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: I'm no fan of Taylor Swift.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't wish you'll ll on them either.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I just hope it's not as equally an expensive divorce
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: later on for them.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, fresh off the really, I mean, we know those.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Can be very expensive too, and we know what Hollywood
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: the recorder is in Hollywood, but hopefully it will be
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: different for both of them. Now, fresh off the release
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: of his new album last month, there are murmurs Beatles
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: founder and rock legend Paul McCartney could tour Australia later
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: this year.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Did he Is there any truth to these rumors?
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't know, but what I do know is
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: that the journalist who wrote this story for The Herald
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: Sun knew it to CoA is very experienced and very
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: highly regarded within the music industry. So if he's got
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: a sniff of something going on, then I suspect that
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: he's on the right track. Even though Frontier Touring, who
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: brought Paul McCartney here, I think it was three years
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: ago to perform, they've not given any statement either way.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: I think that knew his evidence and that is that
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: Paul McCartney is very likely.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: This is according to Nil Finn.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: From Crowded House, Paul McCartney is very likely to appear
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: at the Singapore Grand Prix. Then it's just a hop,
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: skip and a jump down to Australia, isn't it. So
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: it's possibly I think going to happen.
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: Oh.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I think there'll be a lot of people who are
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: very excited to hear that.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Famed actor Seawan Pen says he is sick and tired
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: of taking selfies with fans and he's banned them completely.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: He told Variety people should not do selfies ever with anyone.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: It's bad for you, it's bad for everyone. It's a
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: soul sucker. It's a hard. No, now, did he This
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: seems a bit harsh to me.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: What about having some grace for the fans who support
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: him or do you back him on this move?
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: No, I don't really, although I don't really understand. Well,
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: maybe I do that people want to get a selfie
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: with a celebrity more than say in a few years ago,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: where they would have wanted an autograph. If he wants
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: that picture, everyone wants that picture to be able to
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: show their friends. But I'm baffled as to why anyone
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: would want a photograph with Sean pen I mean he
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: was getting down with Well, that sounded a bit rude,
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: didn't it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 16: With Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan dictator who's now passed, But
• 49:31
  Speaker 16: he backed him and thought the journalists who spoke ill
• 49:36
  Speaker 16: of him should be lose their jobs.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's not somebody that I would ever choose
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: to have my picture taken with. But to each his own.
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: I think he may have a point though, I mean,
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: I guess celebrities are afforded, or should be afforded, a
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: little bit of privacy
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Did he, dun Levy, Thanks for your time, and up next,
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: it's Newsnight.