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• Jeff Ward: Hello and good morning. I'm here. I'm Jeff Ward here with Randy Spear Welcome back to the Accidental Bible Scholar Podcast. We're excited to have you join us. we're Randy: Good morning, I'm here. Jeff Ward here with Randy Spear Welcome back to the Accidental Bible Scholar podcast. We're excited to have you join us. we're Jeff Ward: hoping that out of this you grow closer to Jesus Christ. And according to John seventeen three, eternal life is knowing him and his son, Jesus Christ. And that eternal life starts now. Randy: hoping that out of this you grow closer to Jesus Christ. And according to John seventeen three, eternal life is knowing him and his son, Jesus Christ. And that eternal life starts now. So that is our hope and prayer for this podcast that you get invigorated to study the word and therefore study and know Jesus Christ. 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And we are studying continuing to study Genesis, right? This is a second episode of the study of Genesis. And so without further ado, after that jumbled intro, we will start, Randy. Let's go. Randy: Jumbled intro, we will start, Randy. Let's go. Okay. All right. I'm gonna review just a few things from last time. We only got through five verses of Genesis, but we talked about a whole lot of Jeff Ward: I wanna review just a few things from last time. We only got through five verses of Genesis, but we talked not surprisingly. Randy: I know, a lot of stuff. But just some reminders, remember, we only got through day one. Day one, light was created and then light the light and darkness was separated. And we talked about time frames. Time frames there's really no way to gauge time between verse one and two. Jeff Ward: some reminders remember we only got through day one day one light was created and then light the light and darkness was separated and we talked about time frames time frames there's really no way to gauge time between verse one and two it could be moments it could be billions of years and then from between two and three the same thing there was no no time frame there also the length of a day that was day one but Randy: It could be moments, it could be billions of years. And then from between two and three, the same thing. There was no no time frame there. also the length of a day, that was day one, but the sun and the moon and the stars aren't created and orbits and all that are not created till day four. So it doesn't it doesn't have to be a twenty four hour day, day one. it probably wasn't, or maybe it was. I Jeff Ward: the sun and the moon and the stars aren't created and orbits and all that are not created 'til day four. So it doesn't it does it have to be a twenty four hour day, day one? probably wasn't or maybe it wasn't. Randy: d I don't know. But we talked to spend a lot of time about that. just the boundaries. I review the boundaries that for this whole discussion on creation. I'm gonna we talked about four kind of a a box or a fence around us that we're gonna stay within. And and one side of the fence was John one, one through three that says all things were created by Jesus. And then the second border of our that we're gonna stay within was Hebrews one, two, and three. It says, All things were created through Jesus, and all things are held together by Jesus' command. And then Colossians one, sixteen and seventeen for our our third. Jeff Ward: just the boundaries. I'll review the boundaries for this whole discussion on creation. We talked about four kind of a a box or a fence around us that we're gonna stay within. And and one side of the fence was John one one through three that says all things were created by Jesus. And then the second order of our that we're gonna stay within was Hebrews one, two and three. It says all things were created through Jesus and all things are held together by Jesus command. And then Colossians one sixteen and seventeen for our our third Randy: border said all things were created in him through him and for him jesus holds all things together and then the then the the the final boundary that closes us off that we're gonna stay within is romans 120 it says that everybody everybody knows and therefore are responsible just by observing creation they know there's a God they know they are Jeff Ward: border said all things were created in him through him and for him Jesus holds all things together and then the then the the the final boundary that closes us off that we'll stay within is Romans one twenty and it says that everybody everybody knows and therefore are responsible just by observing creation. They know there's a God they know they are Randy: responsible to him and accountable Jeff Ward: responsible to him and accountable to him. I put a Greek creation declares God's eternal power and divine nature, therefore nobody has an excuse. So those are the four boundaries that we're gonna stay within. And from within that, we can draw some conclusions. We can draw some conclusions that we can have high confidence in, some that maybe have lesser confidence, and people may come to different Randy: To him. I put it Greek creation declares God's eternal power and divine nature. Therefore, nobody has an excuse. So those are the four boundaries that we're going to stay within. And from within that, we can draw some conclusions. We can draw some conclusions that we can have high confidence in, some that maybe have lesser confidence. And people may come to different ideas. And science and religion may Jeff Ward: And science and religion may have different ideas, but we can learn from everybody and learn from Randy: have different ideas, but we can learn from everybody and learn from this first chapter of Genesis and but it's not at odds with science. science is not certainly not complete yet. This is complete and anyway, let's start with day two then. So and we'll try to get through more than just one day this time. you ready to read? Jeff Ward: Genesis and but it's not at odds with science. science is not certainly not complete yet. This is complete, and anyway. Let's start with day two then. So, and we'll try to get through more than just one day this time. you ready to read? Yes, I'm going to Genesis. read six, seven, and eight when you get there. Okay. God said it surprised you that we're going to Genesis. Randy: Yes, I'm going to Genesis. read six, seven, and eight when you get there. Sorry, surprised you that we were going to Genesis. Jeff Ward: Yeah, you know, I slept since I said that we were in Genesis. So six, seven, and eight you said? All right, God said, Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate water from water. Randy: Yeah, you know anyway. So six, seven, and eight? Yeah. All right, God said, Let an expanse in the midst of the waters and let it separate water from water. Jeff Ward: So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. It was so. God called the expanse sky, there was evening and there was morning a second day. Okay, day two. The earth starts to take shape. there's a an above water and a below water. Randy: So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. It was so. God called the expanse sky, there was evening and there was morning. Okay, day two. The earth starts to take shape. there's a an above water and a below water. So it kind of ext two expanses is what it says, and they're both made of water, and it appears that there's two spheres and one sphere is within another sphere. Jeff Ward: So it kinda ex two expanses is what it says. Both made of water. And it appears that there's two spheres and one sphere is within another sphere. Yeah. as you read that. Some creation scientists, so there's a in several good places to go where you have scientists who who have come up with models using Genesis one as the the guide as a creation science and they postulate that Randy: as you read that. Some creation scientists, so there's a in several good places to go where you have scientists who who have come up with models using Genesis one as the the guide as a creation science and they postulate that The outer sphere was maybe a thin layer of ice and that thin layer of ice enveloped the whole world. probably all the way till Noah's time. And in in their Jeff Ward: The outer sphere was maybe a thin layer of ice and that thin layer of ice enveloped the whole world. probably all the way till Noah's time. And in in their theories that would explain one living longer because that ice would filter out some of the harsh rays from the sun. So maybe that's why we don't live near as long as they did in the first few chapters or before the flood. Randy: theories that would explain one living longer because that ice would filter out some of the harsh rays from the sun. So maybe that's why we don't live near as long as they did in the first few chapters or before the flood in in Genesis. Another one w idea would be that this outer sphere, once earth and and living beings are created within on the on the earth, that this outer sphere would have a higher pressure. Jeff Ward: in in Genesis. Another one w idea would be that this outer sphere once earth and and living beings are created within on the on the earth, that this outer sphere would have a higher pressure. Randy: Atmospheric pressure, it would also maybe have a a a more dense oxygen, which would explain but some of our fossil findings are that some of the plants were huge compared to our plants today. The animals themselves were very big, dinosaurs as an example, but even the mammals were very huge that we that we find some of them that that have gone extinct. It would also kind of help one of the clues to Jeff Ward: Atmospheric pressure, it would also maybe have a a a more dense oxygen, which would explain but some of our fossil findings are that some of the plants were huge compared to our plants today. The animals themselves were very big dinosaurs as an example, but even the mammals were very huge that we that we find, some of them that that have gone extinct. It would also kinda help one of the clues to Randy: the dinosaurs lung size. You know, the scientists postulate that the in our current atmosphere d the dinosaurs couldn't live because they don't have large enough capacity lungs to have enough oxygen to support the size that they were. So there there was a mismatch between the lung size and the body size. And that would that that all adds Jeff Ward: dinosaurs lung size, you know, the scientists postulate that the in our current atmosphere d the dinosaurs couldn't live because they don't have large enough capacity lungs to have enough oxygen to support the size that they were so there there was a mismatch between the lung size and the body size and that would that that all adds Randy: to the idea of this of this Jeff Ward: the idea of this of this these people that are the creation scientists think maybe it was a big ice shield. It also might give us a little bit of indication of where some of the water came from for the flood that that you know that took came from everywhere? Came from everywhere, you know. Yeah. And so there you go. So that's day three. A quick side note here. Randy: These people that are the creation scientists think maybe it was a big ice shield. It also might give us a little bit of indication of where some of the water came from for the flood that that you know, Noah's flood that took came from everywhere, you know, and so there you go. So that's day three. A quick side note here. is two side notes or two huge changes in creation. Creation went through two massive changes as we look back. Between us between us and in Genesis one, there's two I don't know, cataclysmic events. The one is the fall of man. And we impacted creation in in many ways. And and we don't but we don't know exactly how. Jeff Ward: is two side notes or two huge changes in creation. Creation went through two massive changes as we look back. Between us between us and in Genesis one, there's two I don't know, cataclysmic events. The one is the fall of man. And we impacted creation in in many ways. And and we don't but we don't know exactly how. Randy: And so as we look back, we read this account and then we look back and we go, Well, some things don't line up. Well, it's hard to to even know how things changed. Jeff Ward: And so as we look back, we read this account and then we look back and we go, Well, some things don't line up. Well, it's hard to to even know how things changed. Randy: The other one is the flood. The flood was a massive change on the earth. Jeff Ward: The other one is the flood. The flood was a massive change on the earth. so so there were ch and both those changes are kind of we we can postulate and we can come up with theories and we can obviously read and see how things were different before and after. But there's there's a lot of unknown things based on that as we look back. That's another thing that that causes us to look back and come to different opinions. You know, different Randy: so so there were cha and both of those changes are kind of w we can postulate and we can come up with theories and we can obviously read and see how things were different before and after. But there's there's a lot of unknown things based on that as we look back. That's another thing that that causes us to look back and come to different opinions, you know, different Jeff Ward: people that read the Bible come to different opinions. Science, you know, shows that that it's that we've been here for a long time and then Randy: People that read the Bible come different opinions. Science, you know, shows that that it's that we've been here for a long time and then Jeff Ward: Science shows that we hadn't been here for a long, or it's very short. There's evidence for both for that. But anyway, that's day. Let's go to day three, you got something else to add. No. All right. How about day three? Nine through thirteen, Okay. God said, Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place and let dry ground appear. It was so. God called the dry ground land, and the gathered Randy: science shows that we hadn't been here for a long or it's very short. There's evidence for both for that. But anyway, that's day two. Let's go to day three, unless you got something else to add. All right, how about day three? Nine through thirteen, please. Okay. God said, Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place and let dry ground appear. It was so. God called the dry ground land and the gathered water. Jeff Ward: waters he called seas. God saw that it was good. God said, Let the land produce vegetation, plants yielding seeds, and trees on the land bearing fruit with seed in it. Randy: Seas. God saw that it was good. God said, Let the land produce vegetation, plants yielding seeds, and trees on the land bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. It was so. The land produced vegetation, plants yielding seeds according to their kinds, and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. God saw that it was evening and there was morning a third day. Okay, so a couple of things to note here about day three. First of all, there's no sun yet. Okay? it'll be the next day before. Jeff Ward: According to their kinds. It was so. The land produced vegetation, plants yielding seeds according to their kinds, and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning a third day. Okay. So a couple of things to note here about day three. First of all, there's no sun yet. Okay? it'll be the next day before Randy: sun's created and there's no so but there's vegetation well we know that vegetation requires sunlight to Jeff Ward: sun's created. And there's no so but there's vegetation. Well we know that vegetation requires sunlight to Randy: to to live so either the light that was created on day one is providing this vegetation or our days are now starting to line out and get very short about 24 hour days even though again the sun's not created there's no orbiting around the sun yet there's no spinning on its axis to be light and dark yet Jeff Ward: to live. So either the light that was created on day one is providing this vegetation, or our days are now starting to line out and get very short. Even though again the sun's not created, there's no orbiting around the sun yet. There's no spinning on its axis to be light and dark yet. but Randy: But plants don't have sun to survive yet and they don't they can't reproduce until day four because the rear plant reproduction, at least many plants require insects or birds or some other kind of animal that to pollinate them and those kinds of things. So this is where probably things are getting very short if they weren't already. Jeff Ward: Plants don't have sun to survive yet and they don't they can't reproduce until day four because that re plant reproduction, at least many plants require insects or birds or some other kind of animal that to pollinate them and those kinds of things. So this is where probably things are getting very short if they weren't already. Randy: I think Because the plants, you know, this these plants created on day three are not going to be able to live, you know, a long time and reproduce unless some the earth continues to change very rapidly, which we'll get to in day four. And then I'll bring out the the phrase according to their kinds, three times in the part that you just read. Let's see, it starts in verse eleven and twelve. So in eleven and twelve, three times it says Jeff Ward: The plants, you know, this these plants green on day three are not going be able to live, you know, a long time and produce unless some the earth continues to change very rapidly, which we'll get to in day four. And then I'll bring out the the phrase according to their kinds. Three times in the part that you just read. Let's see, it starts in verse eleven and twelve. So in eleven and twelve, three times it says according to their kinds. Randy: according to their kinds. And there'll be, as we continue reading, you'll hear it, there's seven more times in the verses here in the rest of chapter one it says according to their their kind. So this wording and this indication in the word of God shows two things. First of all, or at least two things. First of all, one species did not involve Jeff Ward: And there'll be as we continue reading, you'll hear it. There's seven more times in the verses here in the rest of chapter one says, according to their their kind. So this wording and this indication in the word of God shows two things. First of all, or at least two things. First of all, one species did not involve Randy: from another species. Jeff Ward: From another species. Right. So it's clear right here that God created according to their kinds and there wasn't, you know, this this evolutionary idea that that we have these species that keep branching off from other species. That that would eliminate that as an option. There's a wall between kinds. Like you can't go from one kind to another. Because we're all created according to our kind. So once creation is done, it's set. Yeah. this thing is set at creation and Randy: So it's clear right here that God created them according to their kinds. And there wasn't, you know, this this evolutionary idea that that we have these species that keep branching off from other species. That that would eliminate that as an option. all between kinds. What's that? Right. Because we're all created according to our kind. So once creation is done, it's set. this thing is set at creation. And I put it negates evolution. For the Lord to sit here and go ten times he says this in his word, it's almost like he knew evolution was coming. It's almost like he knew we would try to Jeff Ward: I put it negates evolution. For the Lord to sit here and go ten times he says this in his word, it's almost like he knew evolution was coming. It's almost like he knew we would try to come up with something other than a Genesis one account of how it was how it was created. But this this negates and the reason I want to say that. Randy: come up with something other than the Genesis one account of how it was how it was created. But this this negates and reason I want to say that, you know, the the the evolutionary science aren't going to care about this. The evolutionary scientist doesn't care about this because they don't put any authority in God's word. But I'm I'm talking to the believers, which I used to be growing up. When I was when I was growing up, you you learned in school this evolution theory that wasn't even presented as a theory. It was presented as fact, right? Jeff Ward: You know, the the the evolutionary science aren't gonna care about this. The evolutionary scientists don't care about this 'cause they don't put any authority in God's word. But I'm I'm talking to the believers, which I used to be growing up. When I w when I was growing up, you g you learn in school this evolution theory that wasn't even presented as a theory, it was presented as fact, right? Randy: And so you're working through this. So what what the the next logical Jeff Ward: And so you're working through this. So what what the the next logical Randy: thing to do for a Christian to do is go, okay, I believe Genesis one account, I believe that's what it is, but I believe God used as a tool the evolution evolution to make all this happen. Well I bring that that God doesn't allow that in his word because he says it's according to his kind. The species were set and they did not evolve from one species to his next. So evolution wasn't one of God's tools. And the fallacy with that of coming up with that is not just God's word. The fallacy is that Jeff Ward: thing to do for a Christian to do is go, okay, I believe Genesis one account, I believe that's what it is, but I believe God used as a tool the evolution evolution to make all this happen. Right. Well, I bring that that God doesn't allow that in his word. Right. Because he says it's according to his kind. The species were set, and they did not evolve from one species to the next. So evolution wasn't one of God's tools. And the fallacy with that, of coming up with that, is not just God's word. The fallacy is that. Because it was presented in school as fact, you go, Randy: because it was presented in school as fact, you go, well, this is this is solid science. And this solid science then says one thing and my Bible says another. So I need to figure out how they get together. The fallacy is there, evolution is not solid science. Evolution is make-believe. It's more of a religion than it is science. It's a bunch of things postulated to take out God out of creation, and it's not based on evidence or facts. Jeff Ward: well this is this is solid science. And this solid science then says one thing and my Bible says another, so I need to figure out how they get together. The fallacy is there, evolution is not solid science. No evolution is make believe. It's more of a religion than it is science. Yep. It's a bunch of things postulated to take out God out of creation and it's not based on evidence or facts. Right. And it's not based on logic. It's not based on Randy: And it's not based on logic. It's not based on Jeff Ward: any kind of reality that you can get to. Right. It takes amazingly more faith to believe evolution than it does to believe Genesis chapter one. Right. By I mean or magnitude. To the point of it's silly to believe evolution. Yeah I'm probably gonna get raised some eyebrows because we've got that beat into us even from Christians. Yeah. But God's word does not allow evolution Randy: any kind of reality that you can get to. It takes amazingly more faith to believe evolution than it does to believe Genesis chapter one. By I mean, orders of magnitude, to the point of it's silly to believe evolution. And I know I'm probably going to get raised some eyebrows because we've got that beat into us, even from Christians. But God's word does not allow evolution to even be his tool that he used to create. It is a Jeff Ward: even be his tool that he used to create. Right. It is a it is a bankrupt theory at this point in in our science endeavors. Right. And people don't let go of it. Right. They've let it become a religion. Yep. Yeah. But if you need God out of the equation, evolution is the answer. Yeah, that's the only answer you get and and then you look at evolution, well evolution is silly and dumb. then God must be in the equation without Randy: It is a bankrupt theory at this point in in science endeavors and people don't let go of it because it they've let it become a religion. Yeah. But you need God out of the equation, evolution answer. Yeah, that's the only answer you can get to. And then you look at evolution, well evolution is silly and dumb. then God must be in the equation. Right. That you can come to that conclusion without even looking at the Bible. Right. You just go, Well, there is no God and we're here randomly. there's no evidence of that. Jeff Ward: Right. And science doesn't indicate that. Science does not indicate in any shape, form, or fashion. 'Cause they're not using and they're not very good philosophers because they're not losing sound using sound logic. Yeah. No, I was just saying, but if they don't want if we want God out of Randy: And the science doesn't indicate that. Science does not indicate that. Atheist scientists do, and now they're really in more philosophers at that point 'cause they're not using and they're not very good philosophers because they're not losing sound using sound logic. Yeah. Anything else? No, I was just saying, but if they don't want if we want God out of Jeff Ward: our pi out of our life and out of our picture, that's their intent. I mean, that is the goal. Yes. Randy: their intent. I mean that is the goal. Yes. Jeff Ward: for Yes, then let me take a quick side note there. Nobody can live nobody is able to live their life to that conclusion. Exactly. What I mean. Randy: Let me take a quick side note there. Nobody can live, nobody is able to live their life to that conclusion. And what I mean, what do I mean? if we're all here by a random event, many random events that lined up and brought us to this point, then there's no the there's there's no morality and me eating a sandwich is the Jeff Ward: If we're all here by a random events, many random events that lined up and brought us to this point, then there's no the there's there's no morality and me eating a sandwich is the Randy: moral equivalent there's no moral difference between me eating a sandwich and me blowing somebody's brains out. Jeff Ward: moral equivalent there's no moral difference between me eating a sandwich and me blowing somebody's brains out. Right. Randy: But we can't live like that because it's meaningless. It's meaningless. And I can talk about that. I was going to talk about a a section of that then I I'll talk about design and designer at the very end of this. But yeah, we just can't we can't get there from here. And and even the atheists that hold to that do not live their lives Jeff Ward: But we can't live like that 'cause it's meaningless Exactly. Exactly. It's meaningless. And I talked about that I was gonna talk about a a section of that and I'll talk about design and designer at the very end of this. But yeah, we just can't we can't get there from here. We can't function like that. Exactly as if there's no purpose and no morality and things don't matter. Right. But nothing matters if evolution is true. Yeah. Nothing matters. Your life doesn't matter. Randy: As if there's no purpose and no morality and things don't matter. But nothing matters if evolution is true. Nothing matters. Your life doesn't matter. you know, my life is the equivalent of is is the same as an ant's life. There's no difference. Squishing an ant or squishing me i is there's no difference. if there is no God and if evolution is true. We all know there's a difference. Yeah, Romans one twenty says that. And that's not something that Jeff Ward: You know, my life is the equivalent of is is the same as an ant's life. There's no difference. Squishing an ant or squishing me i is there's no difference. Yep. if there is no God and if we all know there is a difference. We all know there's a difference. Yeah. Romans one twenty says that. And that's not something that our culture is, that's not something that we're brought up. No everyone knows. Everyone knows. That's not equivalent. And they know it to the point that they hold on. Randy: Nope. knows. Everyone knows. And they know it to the point that they hold on to evolution so difficulty because what evolution allows them to do is live their life in a way that they're not accountable to God. But everybody internally knows you're accountable to God. And some of us do different things to get around that. Some of us take up religion and we do our own works to try to be accountable. And some of us just e try to erase God. Jeff Ward: Some of us do different things to get around that. Some of us take up religion and we do our own works to try to be accountable. And some of us just e try to erase God and therefore we're not accountable. Yeah. Everybody is accountable. Randy: And therefore we're not accountable. But everybody is accountable. Jeff Ward: Yeah. And I you're probably gonna talk about it later. If you are, tell me to stop, but God did not create a evolution, but he does allow adaptation within our within our kinds, species adapt. Yeah. Bigger beaks, smaller beaks, whatever based on Randy: He does allow adaptation. Yeah. kinds of species adapt. Yeah. Bigger beaks, smaller beaks, whatever based on Jeff Ward: I think that was Darwin's finches. Big beaks that would grow or get smaller based on the fruits and nuts. But that did they did not get a brand new bird out of any of that. It's not it's the same DNA, it's the same species. Yeah, they did a thing, I s I read of a study i recent Randy: They beaks that would grow or get smaller the fruits and nuts. Yeah. No. It's not it's the same DNA, it's the same species. Yeah, they did a thing, I s I read of a study i it recent, I say recent, probably within fifty Jeff Ward: I recent probably within fifty. Randy: years, but they they applied radiation to a bunch of what were they? fruit flies, I think it was. And because they pick fruit flies because they have they rapidly reproduce. So they could have, you know, in a year you could have a hundred generations in a year. So they and those are numbers not exact, but that's kind of the idea. So they they do these fruit flies and they they basically put in presence of radiation Jeff Ward: And because they pick fruit flies 'cause they have they rapidly reproduced so they can have you know, in a year they could have a hundred generations in a year. So they and those are numbers not exact, but that's kind of the idea. So they they do these fruit flies and they they basically put in presence of radiation Randy: to try to create mutations and after generation after generation after generation, so they're trying to basically warp their DNA, which they are capable of doing it. So at the end of this thing you had Jeff Ward: try to create mutations and after generation after generation after generation so they're trying to basically warp their DNA which they are capable of doing it. So at the end of this thing you had Randy: And you had some very deformed fruit flies with different numbers of legs and different bodies and all this, but y at the end of the day they were all still fruit flies. They were just messed up fruit flies because we you know, zapped them with radiation and screwed up their their bodies, but Jeff Ward: you had some very deformed fruit flies with different numbers of legs and different bodies and all this but at the end of the day they were all still fruit flies. Yeah messed up fruit flies because we you know zapped them with radiation and screwed up their their bodies Randy: we didn't change their species. And it they to, after you take that away, go back to normal. Yeah, they'll tend to go back to normal, yeah. And and we can Jeff Ward: didn't change their species. And they will tend to, after you take that radiation away, go back to normal over time. Go back to normal, yeah. And and we can Randy: yeah, again w maybe we get too far Jeff Ward: yo again what may we get too far. Randy: trying to prove this. but but DNA. DNA is information. DNA is a language. If you if you're if you l go to somebody who understands and is expert in language, DNA is its own language. It is information. And so if you have information, you have to have somebody who created the information. we've never had a book randomly appear. Jeff Ward: but but DNA DNA is information. DNA is a language. If you if you're if you go to somebody who understands and is expert in language, DNA is its own language. Yeah. It is information. And so if you have information, you have to have somebody who created the information. we've never had a book randomly appear. Right. Randy: Yeah, we've never had information, data, well data you could collect, but we've never had information, we've never had a language Jeff Ward: We've never had information, data, well data you could collect, but we've never had information, we've never had a language Randy: that appeared all by itself. So DNA alone is proof that there is a author to DNA and and he's the God of the Bible. so anyway, anything else? We'll probably keep touching on stuff like that as we go. I got a couple of Jeff Ward: that appeared all by itself. Right. So DNA alone is proof that there is a author to DNA and he's the god of the Bible. so anyway. Anything else? Nope. We'll probably keep touching on stuff like that. Sure. As we go. I got a couple of Randy: other notes to it that we'll get there. I I wanna point out here before we go on too is this a created according to their kind. When we get to verse twenty six, we'll see that man that that was not applied to man. Man was created in the image of his God. We were actually a copy of something or a form. We have the form and the function is what image means. And we'll I don't want to get too far ahead myself 'cause that's gonna be a separate lesson. We'll talk about the creation of mankind, but but but we were created not according to its kind, we are creating according to his kind, creating to according Jeff Ward: When we get to verse twenty six, we'll see that man that that was not applied to man. Man was created in the image of his God. We were actually a copy of something or a form. We have the form and the function is what image means. And we'll I don't get too far ahead of myself because that's gonna be a separate lesson when we're talking about creation of mankind, but but but we were created not according to its kind, we are creating according to his kind, creating according Randy: to God himself and as the image of God. That's awesome. So let's go to day four if you're ready. Fourteen through nineteen, please. God said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them be signs to indicate seasons and days and years. And let them serve as lights in the expanse the sky be light on the earth. It was so. God made two great lights, the greater light to rule over the day and to rule over the night. Jeff Ward: That's awesome. So in case let's go to day four if you're ready. Yes. Okay. God said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them be signs to indicate seasons and days and years, and let them serve as lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth. It was so. God made two great lights, the greater light to rule over the day, and the lesser light to rule over the night. He made the stars also. Randy: Made the stars also. That's hilarious. Mm-hmm. Just a few stars. God placed the lights in the expanse of the sky to shine on the earth, to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. God saw that it was good. and there was morning a full Jeff Ward: just a few stars. God placed the lights in the expanse of the sky to shine on the earth, to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning a fourth day. Randy: day. Alright, day four. This is when orbits, planets, stars, that we see moving and creating this is the Jeff Ward: This is when orbits, planets, stars, that we see moving and creating this is the first point this happens. This is probably the first day that's that you can go, okay, this is a f we have everything in place to have a twenty four hour day. Randy: first point this happens. This is probably the first day that's that you can go, okay, this is a f we have everything in place to have a 24 hour day. before the fall, you know, your s the spin rate of the earth is like a ice skater, you know, when they s when they start their spin, they got their hands out as they brought draw their hands in, they accelerate. So your a spinning of of an object is determined by how far the mass is away from the axis. So I'm gonna use the word twenty four hours from here on there, but it could have been twenty two hours, could have been twenty six hours, who knows? But if if we truly had an ice shield around, if we only we'll read here in a minute, it almost feels like there's only one piece of ground, one continent if you will. And rest is water. After the flood, it's possible that the the diameter of the earth or at least the the way the mass is distributed across the diameter. So but I'll talk in twenty-four hours, but you know, a scientist listening might go, Hey, you know, it could have been something different. Yeah, it could have been something different, but it's still within hours. We're not still talking millennia just yet. So Jeff Ward: is water. After the flood, it's possible that the the diameter of the earth or at least the the way the mass is distributed across the dam is but I'll talk in twenty four hours, but you know scientists listen might go, Hey you know it could have been something different. Yeah it could have been something different but it's still within hours. We're not still talking millennia just yet. So Randy: No city created and this is and the reason I bring out the orbital orbital com mechanics and all this because it says seasons and days and years. So we hadn't had that in the private the previous one, two, and three days. But day four and forward now we have seasons, days, and years. So we got the earth orbiting the sun. We got the earth cocked at an axis to create the seasons. It's spinning on its axis to create the days and and we're spinning around the sun. Okay. So let's see. See if I have anything else here. So no. Let me and and you made a comment. He made the stars also. That's five words. It's two words in Hebrew. It just basically is stars also. In the in the Hebrew. I went and and did a little research because I was just trying to get my mind away. Psalms one. Well let's go there. Psalm 147, 4. And then I'll have you go to Isaiah next. So Psalm 147, verse 4. Jeff Ward: if I have anything else here. So no. Let me and and you made a comment. He made the stars also. That's five words. It's two words in Hebrew. It just basically is stars also. In the Hebrew. I went and and did a little research because I was just trying to get my mind around. What you're doing, while I'm talking Psalms one well let's go there. Psalm 147 4. And then I'll have to go to Isaiah next. So Psalm 147 verse 4. He counts the number of the stars, he names all of them. So not only does he count them, no one didn't create them, he knows the number obviously, and he names he every one of these stars has a name. And then go to Isaiah 40, verse 26. Randy: He names all of them. So not only does he count them, not only didn't he create them, he knows the number, obviously, and he named he every one of these stars has a name. And then go to Isaiah forty, verse twenty-six. Jeff Ward: Look up at the sky, who created all these heavenly lights? He is the one who leads out their ranks. He calls them all by name. Because of his absolute power and awesome strength, not one of them is missing. Okay. He's got I mean he any Randy: Okay. He's got I mean he and he not only did he create and name but he keeps track of you know, every day. I mean, that's that's pretty crazy. And we'll talk about the number here in just a second, but one thing that's lost since the creation of the light bulb and since we all live in live in towns or cities, light, man made light blanks out so many of the stars. I think Jeff Ward: I think I think the atheist atheism would be not near what it is and humanism would not be near what it is if we could go and on a moonless night, clear night, go lay down on a blanket in our backyard and look up and just see the stars. And you can do that. it's just harder in a city to do that with all the light. But go out somewhere, get away from the city lights on a clear night. Randy: I think the atheist atheism would be not near what it is and humanism would not be near what it is if we could go and s on a moonless night, clear night, go lay down on a blanket in our backyard and look up and just see the stars. And you can do that. it's just harder in a city to do that with all the light. But go out somewhere, get away from the city lights on a clear night. moonless nights even better. Jeff Ward: Moonless nights even better Randy: And let your eyes adjust. Takes about thirty minutes for your eyes to know kid and get adjusted the night and just look up. And it's just like it is. And it's like, my goodness, this is crazy how big it is. And you and I had the privilege Jeff Ward: and let your eyes adjust. Takes about thirty minutes for your eyes to know get get adjusted at night and just look up. It's a blanket. it is. It it's like, my goodness. this is crazy how big it is. And you and I had to privilege Randy: of flying in fighters, F fifteen's and F twenty twos. You get up so most Jeff Ward: of flying and fighters, F-15s and F-22s. You get up so most our atmosphere filters out so much light from stars and so much light. you know that's good in that it takes out some of the harsh rays of the sun. It's bad in that you can't really appreciate how many stars, but you sit there about forty thousand feet where almost all the Earth's atmosphere is underneath you, so there's very little thing being filtered. Randy: our atmosphere filters out so much light from stars and so much light. you know, that's good in that it takes out some of the harsh rays of the sun. It's bad in that you can't really appreciate how many stars, but you sit there at forty thousand feet where almost all the Earth's atmosphere is underneath you, so there's very little thing being filtered. And you look up and I tried it. I I've I've tried to take just my thumbprint and put it on the canopy and try to not touch a star. You can't. They are they it's they're so close together and there are so many. It's startling even when you get up there. especially on a no moon night. Jeff Ward: And you look up and I tried it. I I've I've tried to take just my thumbprint and put it on the canopy and try to not touch a star. You can't. They are they it's they're so close together and so many. It's startling even when you get up there, especially on a no moon night. Randy: It's just crazy. and you get and you can just sit there and awe. We but we've lost that ability to because we just don't look up like that anymore because there's not much up there when there's so much light. Jeff Ward: Yeah. It's crazy. and you y and you can just sit there and awe. We but we've lost that ability to yeah, because we just don't look up like that anymore. Because there's not much up there when there's so much light. Right. in our s in our towns and cities. And our eyes I I don't know if our eyes ever get really adjusted at night. You know, maybe when we're sleeping you wake up at night and even that we got light in our ho homes, you know, lights or anything. But anyway. Here Randy: in our s in our towns and cities and our eyes I I don't know if our eyes ever get really adjusted at night. You know, maybe when we're sleeping and you wake up at night and but even that we got light in our h homes, you know, night lights or anything. But anyway Here let me let me throw you Jeff Ward: let me let me throw you Randy: again to try to get our mound around it. But in the end, I I did this math and I go, that still doesn't help me. But anyway, there is, I go, how many I went and researched and said, how many stars are there? Well, we don't really know. But in the known universe, it's between ten to the twenty-second and ten to the twenty-fourth. So that's a one with twenty-four zeros at the end of it. If we take the middle of that, so ten to the twenty-third, that's one hundred sextillion, I th no centillion, I think. Jeff Ward: to try to get our mound right. But in the end I I did this math and I go, that still doesn't help me. But anyway, there is I go, how many I went and researched and said how many stars are there? Well we don't really know. But in the known universe it's between ten to the twenty second or ten to the twenty-fourth. So that's a one with twenty-four zeros at the end of it. If we take the middle of that, so ten to the twenty-third, that's one hundred sextillion no centillion, I think. I don't know. Yeah. It's a gazillion. I mean we can't even and that's just what we know, which you know, when the Hubble came up, and then we did it again with Webb, the satellite in orbit, so they don't have to deal with atmosphere. And and both of Hubble and Webb, but Webb they did a much smaller space and they go, We think this is blank space. And so they point their Randy: It's it's a lot. It's a gazillion. I mean, we can't even and that's just what we know, which, you know, when the Hubble came up, and then we did it again with Webb, the satellite in orbit, so they don't have to deal with atmosphere. And and both of them, Hubble and Webb, but Webb they did a much smaller space and they go, We think this is blank space. And so they point their Jeff Ward: telescope, the web telescope, and you can go online and can see these pictures at a blank space Randy: telescope, the Webb telescope, and you can go online and can see these pictures at a blank space. Jeff Ward: and they left it there for how long it takes to process that. And they go, Nope, there's nothing there. There were fifteen hundred galaxies that showed up on in that picture of blank space. Yeah. And it's teeny tiny. Randy: And they left it there for however long it takes to process that. And they go, Nope, there's nothing there. There were fifteen hundred galaxies that showed up on in that picture of blank space. And it's teeny tiny. Jeff Ward: Yeah. Randy: And each of those galaxies have billions of stars. You know, it if you look at it, it looks a little bit like stars, the ones farther out. The ones closer in you can see some some dimension to them. But Jeff Ward: And each of those galaxies have billions of stars. Yeah. You know, y i if you look at it it looks a little bit like stars, the ones farther out. The ones closer in you can see some some dimension to But you're not looking at stars, you're looking at galaxies which is represents billions of stars. Anyway. Yeah. Randy: You're not looking at stars, you're looking at galaxies, which is represents billions of stars. Anyway, so if you took one sextillion, let's say that according to God, according to Psalmist 147, four, that he named every one of them. I'm not saying he would do it like this, but let's say he named all of them a second at a time. And he just started naming one S second. I put c you and I could not do that for ten minutes. For ten minutes, that'd be six hundred names. Jeff Ward: So if you took one sextillion, let's say that according to God, according to Psalmist 147, 4, that he named every one of them. I'm not saying he would do it like this, but let's say he named all of them a second at a time. And he'd just start naming one as a second. I put you and I could not do that for ten minutes. Yeah. For ten minutes, that'd be six hundred names. I don't think you and I could do it for sixty for one minute. I don't think we'd sit there with no warning, okay, Jeff, give me sixty names in sixty seconds. Randy: I don't think you and I could do it for sixty for one minute. I don't think we'd sit there with no warning go, okay, Jeff, give me sixty names in sixty Jeff Ward: seconds. No. Nope, you couldn't do it. So but if we kept going past that, if we used every word in the English language one per second, we'd be done in less than two days. We'd be out we'd be out of English words Randy: seconds. Nope, you couldn't do it. So, but if we kept going past that, if we used every word in the English language one per second, we'd be done in less than two days. We'd be out of we'd be out of English words. Jeff Ward: to name anything. Randy: to name any th stars in two days. If we took every human language, every word of every human language, it gets us more than two days. If you if you make some really big assumptions about languages and about how many we have, it gets us to eleven years. If you do it, all the stars for what we think we know right now, it's 3.7 quadrillion years to name that's that's how many one per second, 3.17 quadrillion years. Even the scientists that think we have an old earth or an old universe thinks we're three point eight or thirteen point something, maybe thirteen point I can't remember thirteen point something billion years. These are many order or Jeff Ward: Even the scientists that think we have an old Earth or an old universe thinks we're three point eight or thirteen point something maybe thirteen point I can't remember. Thirteen point something billion years. These are many order or a quadrillion is many orders of magnitude above a billion. Yeah. Anyway, I thought I thought it might help me get my mind around it. It didn't. Now I'm left with three Randy: A quadrillion is many orders of magnitude above a billion. Anyway, I thought I thought it might help me get my mind around it. It didn't. Now I'm left with three point three point one seven quadrillion years just to name the star. Never mind remembering what you named the first one. Right. Yeah. And even coming up with them. I mean, anyway, it's it's staggering. And so one of what's our point? Jeff Ward: point three point one seven quadrillion years just to name the star. Yeah. Never mind remembering what you named the first one. Exactly. Wait, did I already say that? Yeah, and even coming up with them. I mean anyway. That's true. It's staggering. And so one of what's our Randy: What's my point? The Bible records that in two Hebrew words. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. I didn't know it was two Hebrew words. Yeah. Two words. It's recorded what it would take one per second, three point one seven quadrillion years, just a name, never mind creative. Never mind the power and this expanse and the three the command over 3D space and time to do that. Jeff Ward: Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. I didn't know it was two Hebrew words. Yeah. Two words. Wow. It's recorded what it would take one per second, three point one seven quadrillion years. Just to name never mind creator. Never mind the power and the s expanse and the three the command over three D space and time to do that. Randy: When he wants to know, when when God wants to communicate. Jeff Ward: When he wants to know when when God wants to communicate his love for you to you and his love for everybody that's listening to them, it took him sixty six books, forty authors, written over fifteen years to describe his love for us. And he did two words with the stars. Yeah. That's how much he loves us compared to everything else. That's Randy: His love for you to you and his love for everybody that's listening to them, it took him sixty six books, forty authors, written over fifteen years to describe his love for us. And he did two words with the stars. That's how much he loves us compared to everything else. Jeff Ward: awesome. Randy: All right. Takes a few minutes to let that sink in. But okay. So let's go to day five whenever you're ready. Let it sink in first a little bit and then we'll go to day five about that. Jeff Ward: Yes, it does. So let's go to day five whenever you're ready. Let it sink in first a little bit and then we'll go to day five about that. Sounds good. Alright, what do you want? Verse twenty. No. Yeah, twenty through twenty-three. Yep. God said, Let the water swarm with swarms of living creatures and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky. God created the sea. Randy: I guess I need to tell you that. Twenty through twenty-three. God said, Let the water swarm with swarms of living creatures and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky. God created the sea, great sea excuse me. God created the great sea creatures, and every living and moving thing with which the water swarmed according to their kind. And every winged bird according to its kind. God saw that it was good. God blessed him and said, Be fruitful and multiply and build the water in the seas. Jeff Ward: Great sea excuse me, God created the great sea creatures, and every living and moving thing with which the water swarmed, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. God saw that it was good. God blessed him and said, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds multiply on the earth. There was evening, and there was morning, a fifth day. Randy: Okay, so here are the birds and the fish. I don't know where I think it is assumed that insects were created here. So there's this symbiotic relationship between days. So plants can't reproduce until day Jeff Ward: that insects recruit here. So there's this symbiotic relationship between days. So plants can't reproduce until day five. Randy: five, but they were created on day three. Just more proof that it wasn't these days aren't billions of years long. These days are hours long. and they are again, we see they're both created to their kind. We see that they are Jeff Ward: wasn't these days aren't billions of years long, these days are hours long. Yeah. and they are again, we see they're both created to their kind. We see that they are many swarms and of these things created. and and so the earth is filling up. We'll cover this when we talk about the creation of man. Randy: many swarms in of these things created. and and so the earth is filling up. We'll cover this when we talk about the creation of man. but just I'll hint at it. I mean, the evolutionists would say and and what we're taught in school is that is that we have these species that are continuing to multiply as we go along the time. That's just not true. Right here we have Jeff Ward: would say and and what we're taught in school is that is that we have these species that are continuing to multiply as we go along the time. That's just not true. Yeah. Right here we have gazillions of species created and then and then now we since the fall extinction extinction has been the norm. It's not the other way around. Right. so anyway. Randy: gazillions of species created and then and then now we since the fall extinction extinction has been the norm. It's not the other way around. so anyway, yeah. Birds and fish. Let's go on to day six. So this one's gonna require you to use your head a little bit and I know that's asking a lot, but 24 through 26 and then skip down and read verse 31. Jeff Ward: Birds and fish. Let's go on to day six. So this one's gonna require you to use your head a little bit, and I know that's asking a lot, but twenty-four through twenty-six and then skip down and read verse thirty-one. Okay. God said, Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds, cattle, creeping things, and wild animals each according to its kind. It was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the cattle according to their kinds, and all the creatures that creep along the ground according to their kinds. God saw that it was good. Then God said, Let us make humankind in our image after our likeness, so they may rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the cattle and over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move on the earth. God saw that all he had made, this is verse thirty one, and it was very good. There was evening and there was morning the sixth Randy: He had made, this is verse thirty one, and it was very good. There was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. Jeff Ward: day. Randy: Sixth day. He's done. And he's gonna rest on the seventh. We'll we'll we'll cover that in a different lesson. At least I hope. I know. Okay, so what are some conclusions? I've kinda already talked to these, but but there's this I put here starting on the third day, time is very short, probably twenty four hours plus or minus. day four, the sun and and and and the solar system is in place, and then you know, the symbiotic relationship between plants and animals. Jeff Ward: solar system is in place. And then, you know, the symbiotic relationship between plants and animals. Randy: alone proves that these are short, short times, right? Many plants I put here, I'll just read it. Many plants will not survive even one season without animals and insects pollinating the flowers. And there are there are many more relationships that that require connection between things that are created on different days. And it just explains away the the the super long time frame because it couldn't have survived. And then think about this. Within each of us or within each created being or thing, whether it's a plant or an animal, there's a symbiotic relationship w within us, right? I mean, let's say that somewhere along the way our heart formed, and then millions of l years later our lungs formed. Doesn't work. Or our liver or I mean, just pick one of those and try to explain how it Jeff Ward: And try to explain how it occurred randomly. I mean the eyeball alone to me explains that that that th that we were made fully functional right and whole at the time. You know, some people will look at it and try to go, well, my eye looks a lot like my dog's eye, which looks a lot like a lizard's eye or whatever. So all these eyes look the same. So they all originated from one Randy: occurred randomly. I mean the eyeball alone to me explains that that that that that we were made fully functional and whole at the time. You know, some people will look at it and try to go, well, my eye looks a lot like my dog's eye, which looks a lot like a lizard's eye or whatever. So all these eyes look the same. So they all originated from one Jeff Ward: Creature with an eye. Yeah, creature that developed an eye somewhere. It's like, well, i it could be, or maybe they're all made by the same being. Exactly. So you go, maybe that mess up. But just the symbiotic relationship within within each creature. I put it here so the age old question is answered. We know the answer. The chicken came before the hick. So there you go. I know everybody tuned in to hear that. so let's see, how much Randy: One organism, yeah, a creature that developed an eye somewhere. It's like, well, it could be, or maybe they're all made by the same bean. So you go, maybe that mess so but just the symbiotic relationship within within each creature. I put here so the age old question is answered. We know the answer. The chicken came before the egg. So there you go. I know everybody tuned in just hear that. so let's see, how much I'm gonna explain this later. Jeff Ward: I'm gonna explain this later. I think it's interesting that this is this is helping me explain the hostility between science and religion. Is the Big Bang theory, it's you know, everybody's like, you know, the Randy: I think it's interesting that this is this is help me explain the hostility between science and religion is the Big Bang Theory gets you know, everybody's like, you know, the I hear Christians bad mouthing it. Here's what the Big Bang Theory proves, and I'll I'll say it later in a different lesson. I'll come back to it. But time and space, matter and inner energy began to exist, and it lets lets us know that it exists because an all-powerful unembodied being outside of time and space decided to speak it into existence. That's what the Big Bang Theory proves. And I'll explain that in in a we don't have time right here to explain about. And then I put and then he, this this initial cause, well well, it's God, but if we just leave that to the cyber to say, then he created life out of what, out of that which he made to exist. So anyway, it's crazy. I mean Jeff Ward: And I'll explain that in in a we don't have time right here to explain about it. And then I put and then he, this this initial cause w w it's God, but if we just leave that to the cyber to say, then he created life out of what out of that which he made to exist. Yeah. So anyway, it's crazy. I mean, we've kinda hinted at it, but let me explain it a little bit more. 'Cause then and then we'll be Randy: We've kind of hinted at it, but let me explain a little bit more 'cause then and then we'll be we'll be done. We'll go next week we'll we'll continue it with creation of mankind. I go, but why is understanding the origins of the universe and man important? What if I just don't care? And I said, Well, if we are w we were intentionally created and designed, therefore we have value and purpose. If we are not intentionally created and designed, then we have no value and no purpose. Jeff Ward: And man important. What if I just don't care? And I said, Well, if we are we were intentionally created and designed, therefore we have value and purpose. If we are not intentionally created and designed, then we have no value and no purpose. And then our value and purpose, the rest of this book, meaning the bigger book, not the book of Genesis, is is designed or is written to tell us of our value and our purpose. And I'll explain it this way. Randy: And then our value and purpose, the rest of this book, meaning the bigger book, not the book of Genesis, is is designed or is written to tell us of our value and our purpose. And I'll explain it this way, Jeff Ward: that makes sense to me or that I made it make sense to me. Let's take some simple like a hammer. If I had a hammer here I don't but let's say I have a hammer and I just look at it and maybe I don't know anything about a hammer. But if I look at a hammer Randy: that makes sense to me or that I made it make sense to me. Let's take something simple like a hammer. If I had a hammer here, I don't, but let's say I have a hammer and I just look at it, and maybe I don't know anything about a hammer. But if I look at a hammer, Jeff Ward: it's not of stretch to look at and go, okay it was designed. Right. I mean you can't look at it and go it just happened. And that the hammer is Randy: It's not a stretch to look at it and go, okay, it was designed. I mean, you can't look at it and go, it just happened. And that the hammer is or is a magnitude simpler than an eyeball or a heart or never mind combining them all, right? But if I look at that, it's not it's a very, very short intellectual or lit logical move to go, okay, this thing was designed. If I can come into the idea and I'm and I can now go, okay, I'll come to the conclusion that that hammer was designed. Then it opens up all kinds of stuff. For instance, there is a designer. So that hammer has a designer. Okay, the other thing that we know is that hammer, since it was designed, we know that that hammer has purpose and it has value. Jeff Ward: Then it opens up all kinds of stuff. For instance, there is a designer. Yeah. So that hammer has a designer. Okay, the other thing that we know is that hammer, since it was designed, we know that the hammer has purpose and it has value. Buck ninety nine and ace hardware. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. You haven't bought a hammer in all that. But anyway, yeah, so we know it's there was a designer, and if we know there's a designer and a design, then we know there's purpose function. Randy: Yeah, there you go. Buck ninety nine, exactly. You haven't bought a hammer in a while. Thank you. But anyway, yeah, so we know it's there was a designer, and if we know there's a designer and a design, then we know there's purpose, function, and value. That's that's this as simple as I can make it of why it's important that we understand Jeff Ward: That's that's this as simple as I can make it of why it's that we understand. Randy: how we came into existence and how we're recreated. Because we do that being created lets us know that one Jeff Ward: we do that being created lets us know that one if you look at us go, I was designed well I know there's a designer and I know that there's a purpose function and I have value. Just me alone right here I have value because I was designed Randy: If you look at us go, I was designed. Well, I know there's a designer and I know that there's a purpose, function, and I have value. Just me alone right here, I have value, because I was designed with purpose and function. And that's just looking at a hammer. And and we would ne there would be no of the eight billion of us on the planet right now, plus or minus, there's not one of us that Jeff Ward: And that's just looking at a hammer. Yep. And and we would ne there would be no of the eight billion of us on the planet right now, plus or minus, there's not one of us that in our right mind would go, yeah, no, that just happened by accident. Right. I was just digging somewhere and I found this hammer and this hammer just formed in the ground. Randy: in our right mind would go, yeah, no, that just happened by accident. You know, I was just digging somewhere and I found this hammer and this hammer just formed in the ground over billions and billions of years. So so anyway, that's the creation of the world. Two lessons. I think will be creation of man will be two lessons. And then the next lesson after that will be creation of Eve and marriage. Jeff Ward: Anyway, that's the creation of the world. Two lessons I think will be creation of man will be two lessons. And then the next lesson after that will be creation of Eve and marriage. Randy: Okay. So we'll look at the specifics of when God created marriage. We did already talk about that. That was a different book, different time. You you got more to learn about marriage. So do I. Just ask Angela. She'll tell you I got more to learn to learn about marriage. so anyway. Jeff Ward: the specifics of Wait, we already talked about marriage. We did already talk about that. That was different. Yes. Okay. so anyway. Randy: What else you got? Anything else? No, that's good. Jeff Ward: No, that's good. I've got nothing else. Thanks, Randy. Randy: All right. You bet.