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#234 - For Azeroth!: “One and a Half Bars” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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Tehran for the Kirin Tor and REO for calendar, organists our
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cars, not die for the sin Dora, for the alliance for Azeroth.
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Welcome back to another episode of up for Azeroth.
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I am one of your hosts that your billing Manny and joining me as
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always is Livia and live. How is the world Warcraft?
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Treating you this week, I am so close to level 80 in Wrath
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classic. It's taking so long to get there
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but I'm finally almost there, I have like maybe a bubble and a
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half of experience left to get in a mobile 80.
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I took a quick break from from Leveling to go, like, run some
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errands right before we recorded and everything.
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So like I'm almost there, I'm almost there and by the time
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everyone is hearing this, I will be level 80.
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So what I just said is probably not particularly meaningful
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other than I had to stop leveling right before.
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Hitting 80 to record the show, but that's okay because it's
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we're almost. There were almost at the end of
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the road and it's, it's about time.
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It's about time, man. It's about time.
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Time. But other than that, the
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dragonflights kicking my butt because I like, we're getting
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closer and closer to pre patch and the launch date of dragon
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flight and may just looking good.
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Now, it's looking good. So, Oh, Mages fire.
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Mages Frost Mages not so much on the frost but the fire in the
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Arcane are looking fantastic. Arcane primarily but fire is
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also pretty fun because that's that's just a it's just a fun.
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It's just a fun aspect to play because it's very like you're
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fishing for procs whole time so you can kind of like get into
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this trance of fishing for for your your hot streak products.
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but arcane Hold that the playing field whole other level of just
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satisfying. All of the gameplay Loops that I
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look for in a class and I've been playing around with it
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quite a lot. Like basically the extent the
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extent of my my dragonflight Beta time in the last week and a
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half has just been focused on Arcade Mage, which is I'm pretty
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happy, but I'm pretty happy where Came ages.
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And like it's throwing me for a loop because I would like if you
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had asked me like, two weeks ago, I would have said I'm all
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in on, on the shaman, of course. And there's there's a lot of
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stuff I like about shopping do, but the arcade mate, It's so
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good. So I'm going to have a really
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hard time, picking what class I'm going to be playing in
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Dragon flight. And what about the Warlock?
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You were talking about last week because before it was your three
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or Demon Hunter were a lock and Shaman.
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Yeah, sorry about the shaman. We've now introduced this Arcane
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Mage into it. Yes.
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What about the other two? So how is How is Demon Hunter
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looking for you? Yeah.
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Demon Hunter is it's always just good mostly because World
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exploration is just way better as a Demon Hunter.
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Like you just getting around the world in general is always going
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to be about, which that's that like that Throne is about to be
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taken by the Evoque, ER, because they are they're going to have
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the sore ability and dragonflight And that's just
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going to take the cake. They're also going to be able to
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Glide and not take fall damage, ever.
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So it's a contender. So you're saying that you've
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ochres now thrown into the mix. No, no, no, definitely not
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definitely, 100% not on the the playing field for me at least
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not in its current iteration like maybe like two or three,
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expansions down the road. I'll Take another look at it but
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for right now it's just it's too, it's too much.
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It doesn't feel as refined as I would like it to be for a class
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that I'm going to be maintaining and I feel like it's a much
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stronger healer than it is, then it is DPS.
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Which is strange because normally it's the other way
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around whenever they have a new class that has healer and DPS
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specializations available the DPS feels crisp and the healers
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just like I would do they do. With it, we don't know.
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But this time around that's completely different where the
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Healer version of director of ochre.
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It feels fantastic. And the DPS is just as fun but
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like not exactly what I'm looking for, what's lacking with
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the devastation of ochres. if I'm being perfectly honest, I
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think the thing that is turning me off from it is the Empower
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mechanic it just it feels like they really want to push for
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this idea of like going for maximum power with your with
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your empowerments, that doesn't really feel like it's satisfying
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to me in a way that would take me away from the other classes
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that I know that are satisfying for me to play like Arcane Mage
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or enhancers Shaman, or or Demon Hunter, or like world
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destruction, more like specifically, like, very
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satisfying to play, so that's what that's why I've ochres, not
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on the table for me at current time, okay?
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And then, the Warlock last week was a potential second character
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that you were going to work on. Is it still in the contention
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has a fallen off? No, I would say I would say
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that. I would say that it's still like
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a strong possibility for a second character.
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But that's more more to do with professions than anything else
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because I have enchanting on it and I know, I know professions
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don't really matter. Like, you don't have to build up
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professions like, you used to. So, that's not really a
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container anymore. But in my head, my, my warlock
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is my quintessential enchanter / Taylor.
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So We'll see, we'll see. I have reservations about
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warlock. That have come to light and I
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could get into those but I feel like there's much more important
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things to talk about like Manny, you're weak.
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No, this is the pre-show. This is the pre-show.
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If there is any time to ever talk about it, that was that
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Now's the Time plus. It's relevant because everybody
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plays eat Tiffin classes so I'd love to know like what's your
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What's your current reservations on warlock?
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That have come to light. My current reservation, is that
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Affliction, is looking really strong, and I don't particularly
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like the play style of Affliction.
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In dragonflight, for me personally, I like I like fairly
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like straightforward like three dots maximum Nightfall, builds,
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that focus more on firing off more.
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More focus on fairing off your your Shadow bolt then then like
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anything else and that doesn't really exist now.
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So like there is nightfall, Nightfall exists, it's totally
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something that you can take as Affliction Warlock and probably
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probably is going to be one of the stronger talents.
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That is available to the Affliction warlocks, but I think
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one of the builds that's going to come out on top as one that
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Focuses on having as many as many damage over time affects
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active on a Target as possible in order to capitalize on the,
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the major demon summon. But I can't remember the name of
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it off the top of my head, but they are clear big yet dark
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layer. Thank you.
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It's going to focus on like building up dark layers and I
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had that's just not that's just not a play style that I
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particularly enjoy. I like, I like the, like, multi
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dots. In dots around to proc Nightfall
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as much as possible, kind of builds personally.
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So do you feel that right now with where talents are and what
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you're hearing that, there's only one strong build or that
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particular bills are too far ahead of other builds.
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No, and I don't necessarily think that numbers.
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Numbers aren't there at all at this point, like they were just
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not, we're just not at that point in the, in the cycle of
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where things are for beta /, PT R / any, any testing whatsoever
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for this expansion. So you're just going on where it
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currently is. I'm just going on feel for where
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things are and where my gut tells me things are going to end
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up which My gut is telling me that the multi are like the
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stack as many dots as possible. Kind of playstyle is gonna be,
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what range, King Champion, whatever for affliction.
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And that doesn't really sit well with me.
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And the other caveat that I have for warlock, is that?
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I don't really like demonology either.
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Like I never, I never really have like demonology as a
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concept, but I would really want, I would really want
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destruction. To have its moment to like
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shine, like truly like outshine the other two specializations.
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I feel like it had kind of a moment like that with this last
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tier but it quickly got swallowed up and didn't really
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didn't really hit where I wanted it to hit in terms of like in
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terms of where like the builds were how the play style.
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Was for Destruction. Like you had to do some pretty
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weird things in order to in order to make destruction more
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luck, really click this past year and I just there's too many
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unknowns about about the Warlock for me right now to say yeah
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this is this is great this is what I want to do.
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So when you're making these calls, do you often feel like
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you're forced to go towards Whichever spec is the best
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performing especially in terms of those three DPS specs, not
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necessarily. So if you didn't like,
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demonology sorry rather if you didn't like yeah, demonology you
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even if it was the topic performing spec, he wouldn't
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feel forced onto it. I wouldn't feel forced onto it.
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And I feel like that's one of the strengths of the system that
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they're creating is that they're they're making it.
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They're making it as broad as possible so that people don't
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feel necessarily forced into something.
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But There is, there is also the kind of driving need that that I
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have and then I feel like mini Raiders have of like wanting to
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see their character do well and trying to figure out how to best
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utilize your character. In a rate environment to make
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sure that your your overall raid damage is as high as possible.
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Is something that is very, very different.
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And I feel like Mage offer something in that regard that
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warlock does not wear more like has utility like the gate and
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Soul Stone and health stones made offers a little bit more
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and that they have a buff that is basically required for all
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red teams and they There are things that you can take talents
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that you can take in the Mage talent trees, that give more of
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a, more of a DPS, Boon to your party, then the, then the world
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like does. So, that's another consideration
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that I'm taking in too. Into account when coming up with
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where I'm going to land for what class I want to play.
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It's one of the main reasons that I like the idea of playing
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Enhancement Shaman because when Fury totem is like
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Quintessential like group group, DPS buff.
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Do you know what team you're running with?
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In dragonflight, I have no idea. So how can you make these
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considerations? If you don't know your team comp
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if you're like, the like to use it in a logical extreme.
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If you're the only male, a your winter, your totem means
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nothing. So why is Enhancement Shaman on
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your on your list for that when you don't know your your
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composition if you are in a Team with six Majors, Arcane
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Brilliance is so redundant. So why is that precluding
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warlocks? Like, I'm just trying to
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understand how your building or dismissing things in the order
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that you seem to be doing it. It doesn't really make that much
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sense. It's just what I feel like I
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want to bring to the table rather than looking at what What
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needs to be brought to the Tamar?
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What? What?
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Holes need to be filled. In a particular team, if that
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makes sense, okay? And so then you obviously just
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like everybody, we want to be useful to our team's.
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When you have decided, which team you're running with and you
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see the composition, are you going to switch your main to fit
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your composition? Or are you going to stick with
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whatever you have? Leveled up.
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I think I would like to be in a position that I could switch.
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Depending on composition. like, I wouldn't throw it out as a
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possibility, but I think, I think I would like to know what
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character that I'm going to play. just because there are so
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many other factors going into this expansion of like
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professions are going to be huge and having characters that You
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know what you're going to be able to do with those with their
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professions and planning out your professions and and what
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you're going to need in order to get to the level of crafting
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that you need to get to in order to be it.
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Efficient with that. That's another consideration to
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take. To take on with when deciding
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these things, especially if you're looking to be, especially
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if you're looking to be someone that's going to be making gold.
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Yeah, but professions you can bring onto any character, true.
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Like, that's the beauty of the fact that we can start dragon
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fight professions with zero pre-register prerequisite.
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Whereas, in Wrath classic, you have to go through and learn
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classic and then bc2, then be able to learn wrath trades.
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True, very true. That isn't or should not be a
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consideration in terms of which class / spec you're going to
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bring? Yeah, my + alt 6.
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Tiffany to make gold you can make it on alt.
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That's true. That's true.
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Hey, long story short. There, there are still several
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considerations for which class. I would like to two main going
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into the expansion. Okay, well, I guess turning all
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that to me. Yes, my consideration for class
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is is between my Warlock and I'm looking looking at Affliction
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Warlock. The dark layer is something that
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I think is actually pretty fun. Switching over to a single
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Target that is about slapping on as many dots on to one
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particular Target and then grasping to take advantage of.
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All those dots is seems to be kind of cool.
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I know that I'm going to need some form of plate like add-on
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or week or so that I can know exactly when to refresh my dots,
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to get the extra bonus, and I like that mini game.
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So, friction is really calling to me.
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I know that I can get away with that because the team that I'm
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running with is kind of over on healers.
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We're a little little bit, uh, running a little heavy on
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healers at times. So there's that.
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And we're also currently melee heavy, but the ability to switch
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back and forth might be useful. Right now, or rather, we
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finished writing, but when we finish rating, we had three
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shamans other than myself. So two other enhancements.
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Sorry rather. Yeah, sorry, I apologize for
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shamans other than myself to other enhancements, one
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elemental, and one Resto. So we feel kind of saturated on
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Shaman, but I am thinking because I play It's so long.
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I might just be continue to be stubbornly Shaman but switch
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over to Elemental so that I can do the turret build.
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So I'm looking, I'm looking at it.
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As for where the builds are and everything.
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I honestly like I think that you're right, there are
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different builds that are viable on the different specs.
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We don't know exactly where the numbers are going to to end up
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and I am fine, taking a top performing build, even if it's a
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little bit more cumbersome for me to do because I like learning
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those sort of things. But I'm not going to switch
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between Affliction in Elemental based on which one is the top
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performing. So I have to like, that's the
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kind of considerations I would make, which is why I was, I was
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sort of, like, asking I'm like, oh, well, like if you're willing
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to look at Arcane, even if Affliction warlock becomes the
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best. Why aren't you willing to look
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at demonology? Even of Affliction, warlock
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becomes the best. Right are sorry wrong example
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because you hate demonology, but like destruction, right?
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Maybe it's just a proximity thing where it's like, if I'm on
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that class, why am I not switching to the top performing
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Speck of A class. But It's the same thing with the
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talent built. If this is the way to play it,
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and you don't like playing it that way.
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Why don't you do a build that you like better and will enjoy
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better. I'm just wondering how much
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pressure is. You feel to be top-performing
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spec class Talent layout? When the guide start showing up?
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And they start saying, Hey, to be Arcane, you've got to use it.
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Why is Ed and you may not like why?
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And you might be screaming into your phone and be like, Manny
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it's zeenat said, whatever you need to do, like, what decisions
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are you going to make? And I think that's a natural.
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Pretty interesting conversation that is going to become more
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frequent as numbers become more cemented as we move into Dragon
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flight itself. But that leads us to our first
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news story, which is these talents are going to be showing
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up next week because we are getting the dragon fight.
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Pre-release kind of we're getting the first half of the
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dragon fight pre-release, there's going to be two phases
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phase. One is going to include the
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talent tree revamp which will Of the change everything that
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people are doing and you're going to have all those
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meaningful Talent choices that we were just talking about.
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Were also going to be getting the heads up display that entire
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UI that I've been gushing over for the last.
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I don't know too long. Like if there is anybody on the
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development team, that is listing.
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Let me just say I am I'm very much appreciating the updates.
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I will also have to spend a lot of time figuring out which
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add-ons, that I want to. Now, include with these updates,
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there's going to be of course, the accessibility features that
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they've included. So, the press and hold
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spell-casting, I think is really good, especially if I want to do
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particular, builds for elemental shaman.
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There's also going to be all of those upgrades that we were
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talking about as well, and Then in terms of features, we're not
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getting much in the way of features, we're going to have
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the end of season 4 with this with this free pass because
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remember they had said that, the 24th was when things were ending
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and I guess, that means that my, my guess in last week's episode
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was correct that they were going to give us less than 10 days
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notice and everything was pointing to the 25th.
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So I'll take that that win in and be smug about it.
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Other than that. We're going to be getting the
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rated solo Shuffle, which was first introduced as a PVP brawl.
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But is going to now stay as a different mode of PVP and I
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think this is very cool in that I'm very interested in doing it.
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But like with PVP I have never really sat down with an
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organized team and I have at times wanted to, you know, just
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in my off time. Do a little bit of PVP to try
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and get all of those glorious mounts that are there or
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different rewards that are there.
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And I'm hoping that this will be a way to go towards it because
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this will allow us to learn rather earn the season awards
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and achievements. This is going to give us credit
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towards those vicious mounts and weekly Vault progress.
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So, all of that category line of stuff that I hadn't touched
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before this, maybe My entry point to it, depending on how
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much I get my butt kicked. And we'll see from there.
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Now, beyond that, there are some new race and class options that
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are going to be added in here. So for all of you, you wanted to
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be a torn Rogue. Your dream is now upon you.
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Your time has come. Yeah, your time has come.
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Every race is going to be able to be a rogue, a priest, or a
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mage. This is just the start later on.
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All of the classes will become available to all of the races.
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I think that there should be an Asterix on that.
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I doubt that invoker's are going to be anytime soon.
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I think demon Hunters are going to be locked for a while, but I
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am interested in seeing all the different combinations,
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especially the ones that are going to need some serious, art
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assets, which includes Druids, which includes shamans for their
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totems. I'd love to have some racial
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Elementals, that would be cool, but that's beside the point.
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So I'm looking forward to this, if I may interject.
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Yep, aired, our warlocks, I need it, I need it so bad.
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That's all. That's all I was gonna say.
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Eredar were like, sit sit, I'm thinking more void elf Paladin's
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who feel like that's like they like the next Cardinals in spicy
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and I say, cardinal sin. Because this is, this is like
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for people who are like, Lord, restrictive class ratio
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combinations, were about, informing culture, but at this
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point, the cultures have been together so long.
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That sure. At this point, you should be
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able to learn any of these but that will lead us into phase two
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and lived you on a handle that. Yes, I would love to.
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So face to beginning on November 15th, we will finally have
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available to Us the drag Theory Focus, everyone will be able to
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make well that is it, everyone or is it everyone who has
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pre-ordered the expansion? I think it's everyone who's
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pre-ordered. Yes, everyone who's pre-ordered
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the expansion on November 15th, you can make your director of
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ochre. If you if you want you don't
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have to but it's going to be available so you'll be able to
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create that character and go do the or go through.
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These starting experience for the director of ochres, which
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goes through the new Zone, The Forbidden reach, which is the
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the starting zone of course, for the drag there.
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And we will also get a new dungeon aldeman Legacy of tier
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which is the ultimate dungeon if you've played wow before if you
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played classic if I mean if you've played basically At any
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point in the last, how long have we been playing this game?
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16 years, 17 years. If you've, if you've played this
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game in the last 17 years, you've probably run into the
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dungeon old the bun, but they're reworking that dungeon and that
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is going to be available on November 15th.
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Well, it's it is a new version of it but the old version is
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still there. So it's like a second one that
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you get to kind of like they did care.
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And then you cares. And yes, yes.
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So that's going to be available on the 15th as well as the
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beginning of the pre expansion event that's going to be leading
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us into the expansion proper which these this event is called
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the Primal storms, so that we're going to have Primal storms, pop
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up throughout the world of Azeroth.
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Four different zones are going to have each.
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Each are going to have their own different versions of these.
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Primal storms are going to pop off at set intervals throughout
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the day. During this event this is
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similar to what we've had in in Pre expansion events in recent
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years and there will be a lot of experience to gain and a lot of
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cosmetic rewards to gain through these.
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I know that there's Gonna be a full set of armor.
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For each each armor type there's going to be and it's it is a
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completely new armor set for each one.
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So cloth leather mail and plate. All get a new basically a new
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transmog set through this and it will also be you know gear for
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your characters, for your alts that you'll be able to farm up.
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So you're not going in with like I do mobile I think it's like
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256 if I remember correctly. Yeah, it's currently 250, which
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is like if this was coming after season 3 that would be great.
29:29
That would be like right on the level but with the introduction
29:32
of season 4 that's quite low. It's like it's not quite catch
29:37
up. So hopefully you do this.
29:41
You can take that gear and then run it into the content.
29:45
That's going to be available like They're still the ability
29:50
for you to get Mythic plus gear or if you really want to raid
29:54
the old rage, you can still get gear from that.
29:57
And beyond that, I guess it's going to serve a purpose because
30:03
the initial Quest they're not set up for 250 gear or even gear
30:07
and 200. There's to set up for you like,
30:09
coming right out of the Dragon Isles and being sub 200 item
30:14
level. Like, think just when you
30:16
finished leveling through, Shadowlands.
30:19
You were basically 180 some pieces that 190 when you
30:25
replaced your heart of Azeroth, that's roughly where you
30:27
started. And then getting 200 gear was
30:30
like at the end game. So basically when you finish
30:33
shadowlands then this is supposed to take the next bot so
30:38
you're looking at sub 200. So 250 gear is going to get you
30:41
a long way, but if you already are geared from season four,
30:46
this doesn't offer for anything. Yeah.
30:49
Does absolutely nothing for you, which is okay, which is okay,
30:52
it's just meant to be gear. That is going to give you a
30:58
little bit of a step forward into Dragon Isles.
31:02
Whenever we start going through that Quest content and dungeon
31:05
content, two weeks after November 15th, when we actually
31:10
get the expansion proper, I think it's November 28th.
31:14
Right. Is that correct?
31:15
Yes. Hmm.
31:16
So November 28th. Add seven days, twice a day
31:21
seven days, but it's yeah. And my okay.
31:27
The other thing about this Is that they are allowing.
31:34
People to complete several of the introductory quest for the
31:39
dragon Isles, before the expansion launches, which I said
31:45
in the Discord and if you want to hear or some hot takes from
31:49
us or just our initial responses, join us in the
31:52
Discord that's at a bit.ly slash fastest chord, but I said, whoa,
31:58
I cannot believe they're doing this because those initial
32:00
quests help spread out across. Out the quest goes active.
32:06
Some people watch The Cinematic, some people don't, some people
32:09
read, quest, Quest text some people, don't some people take a
32:13
little bit longer to find where they're supposed to go.
32:15
Some people don't, and all of those factors helped spread out
32:18
that initial surge before they go into the dragon Isles.
32:23
With this allowing people to do it over the course of a couple
32:27
of days and then bottleneck at the Zeppelin or the sorry, the
32:33
air ship or a boat depending of your hoarder Alliance.
32:37
There's going to be just packs of people hitting the shore
32:41
Dragon miles, if they've taken advantage of this and it's going
32:46
to be quite the rush, I'm actually surprised that they did
32:50
this. I kind of am surprised that they
32:55
did this but having having experienced launch day for for
33:01
Wrath of the Lich King Classic, they did something kind of
33:06
interesting with it in that they made the boats staggered.
33:11
Like you could only fit so many people in the boat and then it
33:15
would not let any more on and then the boat would go and then
33:19
it would go in like 10. Minute intervals.
33:22
So there was enough time for that first group to go through
33:25
and then the second group to go through and start questing.
33:27
So it was, it was kind of like a forced staggering of people
33:32
going into the new zone so that it wasn't completely overrun.
33:35
I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that happen with
33:39
the dragon Isles. Yeah.
33:40
Thatthat seems like Tech that they would be using.
33:44
Yeah, because if they're using it for wrath classic than I can
33:48
only imagine that that that Tech is the a Exists in the in the
33:52
the modern version and B is going to be utilized in some
33:56
capacity. Yeah, the other thing about the
34:00
Primal storms is that not all four of the zones will be
34:04
active, and the zones themselves will rotate through the
34:08
different elements. So there's like an Earth
34:11
invasion. Water Invasion, fire, Invasion.
34:15
Wind Invasion can pop up. Be enemies are pretty basic.
34:20
Basic you get to kill them and then every I think it's about
34:25
every half hour, there will be a big boss that will spawn and
34:30
it'll be immune to all damage. And the way that you make it
34:34
actually Engage The actually engage with it is that you have
34:39
to kill off all the small enemies.
34:41
While it's up, every enemy that you kill will remove a stack of
34:45
the buff that's making it immune to damage once all those Stacks
34:49
are gone, then you can attack. You get a bunch of currency from
34:52
this. If you don't need the gear, you
34:54
can get like a toy and some other stuff as for the gear that
34:59
you were talking about. Yeah, it's new gear but you're
35:02
going to get a different tint of it when your leveling.
35:05
So depends on how into transmog, you are or how much you're not.
35:10
If you want a blue tint, feel free to go farm your heart's
35:14
content of this because you won't get the blue tint
35:17
afterwards. Yeah, but all good fun.
35:22
All good stuff. So that's that's all the stuff
35:24
that we're getting. But there are a few things that
35:27
are be that are be they're going to be going away starting next
35:31
week. And that's basically just that
35:36
season 4 is ending season. 4 is coming to a close.
35:39
They put a the, the team team to put out a pretty long.
35:45
Post, detailing rewards would no longer be available with the pre
35:48
patch and with the launch of dragon flight.
35:52
And then on Monday, they released an update to that post
35:55
with me, goals continuing to be achievable up until the release
35:59
of dragon flight in November. So, In four ends Mythic
36:03
dungeons, the, the title. Shrouded hero is going away.
36:10
You're not going to be able to to get that anymore.
36:14
You're also with Arenas and rated Battlegrounds, not be able
36:18
to get the Eternal Gladiator achievement either.
36:26
See rank achievements such as duelist Shadowland season for
36:30
another respective. Titles are going to be available
36:32
or anymore. Rank awarded Elite transmog
36:37
items from PvP. So the the armor sets the
36:40
weapons, the Illusions, the cloak and tabard, those aren't
36:44
going to be available anymore. And then, of course, progress
36:48
towards Gladiator season for achievement is also not going to
36:52
be available anymore. So you have Until Tuesday to get
36:58
your Mount if you're going for the Gladiator Mount.
37:01
So you're going to have a very busy weekend ahead of you.
37:04
I would imagine if you haven't gotten that yet and that is one
37:07
of your goals, but still still technically doable.
37:11
So, good luck to everyone that is, there's going for that if If
37:21
you are going for any of these, we highly recommend that you do
37:27
not. Go for any, any like race
37:31
change, faction change, character, transfer services,
37:35
any of that stuff until after the pre patch has dropped,
37:40
because that will That will invariably cut your short cut
37:46
your time, short, that you'll have to get these and could
37:51
potentially even last through, like, if something goes, like
37:55
horribly terribly wrong with getting one of these Services
37:58
processed, it could like basically put your character out
38:01
of out of commission until after the brief badge.
38:05
Like hopefully that wouldn't happen but it's still possible.
38:09
So no, it's just that it would it would It'd be that you
38:13
wouldn't get the reward because it cuz there's an issue about
38:16
tracking especially if you do a faction change or character
38:20
transfer on to a different server.
38:21
It's like pay. Listen, I know you have this
38:23
rating but now you're on this other server and there's a
38:26
conflict there. I know you have this rating but
38:29
we can't find a character. That made this rating, then they
38:32
have to backtrack and figure out where it was that can cause
38:36
issues. So, if you're eligible being one
38:39
of the top percentage to get the here, The shrouded hero title to
38:44
be top percentage on your realm to get a gladiator Mount.
38:49
Don't go messing that up by doing a transfer that you could
38:51
do just a little bit later. Yeah, yeah.
38:55
But what show in season 4 has ended following rewards will
39:01
continue to be available until dragonflight launches including
39:06
with Mythic plus dungeons. The shadowlands Keystone Master
39:09
season for achievement and the rest Raishin deathwalker Mount
39:14
Keystone hero achievements along with their denim.
39:16
Specific teleport rewards. So Great.
39:20
Great time between now and the launch of dragon flight to go
39:27
and jump in it. But these dungeons, but the new
39:29
Talent system and everything at the new inherent power, that
39:32
we're going to be getting from that to jump in and and get
39:37
those Keystone hero Awards, which I think is completing a 20
39:41
on time of the of the dungeon is that correct in most cases, it's
39:48
too. Dungeons because they're all
39:50
Mega dungeons that were split into two.
39:52
So if you want to get the teleport to mechag on, you have
39:58
to do 20 in both work shop and junkyard gotcha.
40:02
The exception is with grim rail Depot, and with the iron docks
40:07
because those are two separate dungeons.
40:09
That have two separate Stones. You can do one of them and get
40:13
the teleport there. Yeah.
40:15
So get your teleports unlocked while you can.
40:19
Mythic plus reading can be earned and increases.
40:21
Your ain't increases as you complete hierarchy Stones, so
40:27
that can still be something that you do.
40:29
If you want to use Mythic plus to your advantage to gear out
40:33
your character a little bit more before going into dragonflight
40:36
Valor. Points can also be earned and
40:39
also, great ball. Progress can be can be worked on
40:44
from week to week. In PvP, you can still continue
40:48
to queue for baited and rated Arena and Battleground matches.
40:54
PVP rating can still be earned. The vicious Mount progress will
40:58
continue until the launch of dragon flight honor and Conquest
41:02
can be obtained to to purchase an upgrade gear based on your
41:07
rating. And, of course, as with Mythic
41:10
plus, you can still still get your great but rewards from
41:15
doing PVP formated. And then the faded raids are
41:18
also going to continue going through as planned up until
41:22
dragonflight launches. So, season 4 will end and all
41:28
faded or all the raids of shadowlands will become faded
41:31
permanently until dragonflight launches the achievement fates
41:35
of the Shadowland raids along. With the Jiggles birth senior
41:39
can be obtained along with the hero of Fate Andrade teleports.
41:46
The the hero of Fate title and red teleports for completed
41:50
shadowlands raids on heroic in the big difficulties
41:53
respectively. The puzzling curtailed Dinars
41:57
will continue to be available, so you'll be able to purchase
42:00
those. Those pieces of gear with the
42:02
dinar and the, of course, again, great Vault progress can be made
42:11
and the confounding antique Cypher in heroic and confounding
42:15
ancient site. In Mythic can be obtained or
42:17
grade items that you obtained in faded raids.
42:22
We say we may need jumped in and tried to test out to see if we'd
42:27
be able to switch faded off in any of the raids.
42:32
But we were unable to get conclusive data on whether or
42:36
not that was going to be a thing that we can do.
42:38
So hopefully, hopefully, will we will be able to turn those off
42:42
and I would imagine that they're going to be people that want to
42:44
just go do the raids. Regularly and not have the faded
42:47
ethics going with these people that I don't know.
42:51
I don't know what what purpose that would be other than people
42:55
just wanting to get like, transmog runs in.
42:57
I suppose Mount farming or? Yeah, or mouth if you want to if
43:01
you want to get the amount off of Sylvanas, or if you want to
43:05
get the mount off the Jailer and you want to do it.
43:09
Without the extra complication of the different faded affixes,
43:17
right? That's that's one thing that
43:19
people would want to do. Yeah, another thing about this
43:24
is People will want to get gear, little min-max tip here, your
43:31
tier sets, going to be turning off.
43:33
So some of your tier doesn't have the best itemization.
43:37
It has stats that you would rather not get, but you picked
43:39
it up because you wanted to tear bonus that terrabona shutting
43:42
down. You may want to do some of this
43:45
content in order to replace it with some high-level Gear with
43:49
better stats for yourself. So, there's a reason to be
43:54
active in these endgame activities after the Patch goes
43:57
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44:22
move into a next story, which is the live chat with the
44:28
Developers. Quest design.
44:30
So several members of the World of Warcraft Community Council.
44:35
Got to sit down with the three lead Quest designers.
44:38
For dragonflight, this was like a 90 minute conversation.
44:42
We got to ask a bunch of questions and have a good
44:47
conversation. This is the first one that I
44:49
have been able to sit in on the previous one, was for World of
44:53
Warcraft classic. And as those of you who will
44:56
listen to show, no, I don't have.
44:59
A lot of vested interest in classic.
45:01
So I didn't feel like I would be able to be the best
45:03
representation there, but it was really great to have literally
45:08
conversations and ask a ton of different questions of the
45:13
developers and even some ideas where pitch to them that they
45:18
thought were interesting. So there was conversations about
45:23
how the team works with other teams including like the
45:26
narrative team in a system team to make the Quest's work.
45:30
There was a focus on how they wanted to create these more
45:33
immersive experiences with the stories and the fact that many
45:38
of the stories that we're going to see and dragonflight are more
45:42
local stories meant that they could have more personality in
45:46
there. More concrete stories that were
45:49
unique to that to that particular Zone and talked about
45:53
like culture experiences happening is happening there,
45:56
rather than everything being about like the big.
45:59
Bad. That is coming.
46:00
They also talked about how they use the quest to tutorial eyes
46:05
different parts. How we learn dragon flying
46:09
through the questing system? This is kind of important
46:12
because anybody who has seen the quest intro to shards of
46:19
domination will know that they just didn't exist.
46:24
You have to sort of figure that system out on yourself by
46:27
yourself you To go to. Wow, head to look it up.
46:31
It wasn't something that was incredibly intuitive.
46:34
So learning that how they're working with the different
46:39
different groups and different teams in order to make sure that
46:42
you don't need to Tab out of the game to go.
46:45
Look at, I see veins to learn how to do a system is incredibly
46:50
important. We also learned about allowing
46:54
different Quest designers to play into their strengths and do
46:59
these passion projects. So some of these quests that
47:01
you're hearing about that are leaking out, I don't want to say
47:05
anything to spoil them but one of the ones that is it that
47:09
isn't much of a spoiler is the in when you first land there's a
47:14
ledger and you get to put in all sorts of very silly.
47:17
Very, very Easter egg responses there.
47:21
It's Thing and just having these different quests that also speak
47:25
two different things that have come up in the past.
47:29
That led to a kind of a conversation about like how much
47:32
Freedom or restriction. They had with different
47:34
characters, how they can pull a character back from ages past
47:39
and give you an update on what they're doing, like Fiona's
47:42
Caravan that used to be out in Eastern plaguelands and then
47:46
have that come forward and see how she's doing versus having a
47:50
more restrictive character much. Like they had bolvar in the
47:54
shadow lands where there's only so much you can mess with bolvar
47:57
before, the team is like, now you You can't do that.
48:01
And then we moved into discussions about wish for
48:06
accessibility a dream of having every voice.
48:09
Look every line in the game voiced and the restrictions that
48:14
would make that a harder request then than they would.
48:17
Like, one of the concepts that came up was an anti cromie time
48:23
and for those who are wondering what that is, it is, instead of
48:29
Beating up your leveling so that you can get to the current
48:32
content faster. It was a thought of allowing
48:36
people to play through every expansion slowly, to experience
48:42
the full story of World of Warcraft throughout its entire
48:46
ages. This is something that you see a
48:49
lot when you talk to people who play Final Fantasy, they're like
48:53
oh where are you at right now? Oh, I'm in A Realm Reborn.
48:56
Okay. Get through this.
48:58
And this is here. Where are you at?
48:59
Right now I'm at storm flood whole storm, Bloods amazing.
49:03
You're going to love it and that didn't just include the leveling
49:06
content that we see that also included conversations about
49:10
having a kind of a tour of the story that happens in raids and
49:17
so forth. So that you would get a full
49:20
understanding of what happened in expansion.
49:22
They talked about how some people had played and didn't
49:26
know that arthas was Because it happened in the raid and it
49:30
wasn't shown outside the raid. Unless you happen to go click on
49:33
that statue and how much they wanted to make sure that people
49:39
would be able to follow the story without going into the
49:42
raid. One of the specific examples
49:45
they gave was like showing up on week, two in zeroth, more dozens
49:49
like oh and do it's free. What happened there?
49:51
I didn't do that and things like that.
49:54
So there's, there's this big Canoeing effort to make the
49:59
story immersive coherent and make sure that everybody is
50:03
getting the story. Which included at the end game
50:07
with the world quest with daily Quest having those Quest stay
50:12
fresh longer and expanding on the renowned system where you
50:17
would get story as you progress through the renowned system with
50:21
a concern that was brought up by the developers over gated
50:26
content. They Actually spoke to how they
50:29
were thinking about how the content was gated and how much
50:33
people would bristle against that.
50:36
And I think it was, it was honestly, amazing conversation.
50:41
I'm hoping that full transcript will get put out but they ended
50:46
the talk by starting a forum thread, and they put the
50:49
question to us, and I'm going to put the question to you live.
50:54
We're it's, if you're the sort of wow player who Skip's Quest,
50:58
content all together, especially at the beginning of a patch when
51:01
the content is first released. Why do you do that?
51:05
And what do you imagine could be changed about the game that
51:09
might result, you result in you becoming more interested and
51:13
likely to play Quest content. I feel like I have a unique
51:18
answer to this question. Between the two of us, I would
51:24
have a unique quick answer to this question.
51:26
And that answer is that I've seen what they've been able to
51:29
do with Quest content in Wrath classic.
51:32
And I think that that's kind of the answer that I would like to
51:37
pose to this question of, how do they keep in-game content
51:42
fresher for longer F content in particular while questing in
51:50
particular and this, this is just because this, yeah, wrath
51:54
Quest content in particular. What they did for Wrath of the
52:01
Lich King Quest content because there's basically two in games
52:04
those two level 80s answers icecrown and then storm peaks.
52:09
Both of these zones have a wealth of quests that are
52:14
available and a lot of these questlines culminate in a lot of
52:19
like group quests, that require you to go face off against Elite
52:25
in Amis in Amis that you can't easily solo on your own.
52:28
And until you've gotten like a bunch of raid gear or, you know,
52:33
something just more powerful, more more power, that your
52:38
character has that you can bring, or just, you know,
52:43
Ingenuity and the ability to like play Hunter, which can
52:49
basically solo anything if you put your mind to it, but that
52:56
being said, What they did in Wrath classic.
53:01
For these two zones in particular is that they
53:04
basically added in a bunch of the currency that you're farming
53:08
as rewards for completing all of these questlines.
53:12
All of these huge quest lines. Basically, by the time you
53:15
finish each each Zone, you've gotten 80 emblems from from both
53:21
zones through just doing the quest content.
53:25
So 160 total, which means you can take those emblems and Turn
53:29
them in for gear and you don't have to go through and do all of
53:34
the dungeon grinding like you can and that is still a very
53:38
useful way of getting of getting those those winter pieces that
53:45
you need. So like a lot of people are
53:47
going to look at trinkets like mirror of Truth.
53:50
A lot of people are going to be looking at getting their first
53:54
two, tier set pieces for the first tier from from these
53:58
vendors. Hours.
53:59
And that's what you're going to be using to go into into the
54:03
raids. and, I feel like that's the way that they do this.
54:12
They just put in so much Quest content that you cannot possibly
54:17
finish at all, by the time that you are Level by the time, your
54:22
level cap, you just have so many other quests that are available
54:25
to do that. Do have these extra rewards that
54:31
you can. You can go out and get and do
54:34
have some extra incentive and something that they could do
54:37
that would very easily. Into what's going on with dragon
54:40
flate. If they had been doing this, you
54:43
know, before we had basically gotten to the point where we are
54:49
in the beta would be to to look at to look at what's available
54:58
and say, okay, we've got, we've got like 40 percent of the quest
55:02
being done in the zone that are that are good story Quest that
55:06
have, you know, through lines that people.
55:08
That are interesting to people that are challenging to people
55:11
in some capacity that they're just not going to be able to
55:15
finish all of these. By the time they hit level cap,
55:18
can we put something in? Can we put crafting materials?
55:22
And as a rewards, these rare crafting materials, that
55:24
normally you would only be able to go into the raid to get, or
55:29
to go into Mythic Plus or go into high rated PVP to get these
55:32
rewards in in terms of crafting materials that we're going to
55:37
need. Can we put some of those
55:40
materials on these? These like high level quests
55:45
that are going to be available for players to go?
55:49
Do I feel like that's a much better way of doing this is just
55:52
to over saturate the, the quest content that's available and
55:58
create these interesting stories that people want to go do that.
56:01
You can go do and that you're incentivized to do.
56:06
In a way that makes. Makes sense for you to, you
56:12
know, do as many varied activities you can to get to end
56:16
game and then have questing be something that you just do
56:20
during downtime that is still like more than what you're doing
56:25
with like yours are worth more to stuff of just like there's so
56:27
many things to do but it's all just like kind of the same thing
56:31
and just like farming out, you know, pee smell day by day.
56:36
You know, working slowly towards this like ubiquitous It's goal
56:40
and rather have these things. These quest lines that you're
56:44
just like okay I know it's going to take a good chunk of time for
56:47
me to do these quests but I'm going to do them because they're
56:51
giving me something worth my time that is progressing my
56:54
character towards the goal that I have with that character.
56:57
Okay? So of the different tiers that
57:05
we've had in recent history, what do you think has been the
57:10
best endgame questing experience for you like, is there a
57:15
particular one? Where you're like, oh I loved
57:17
the questing in mechag, on and nashit are or I liked the
57:23
questing that was in 0th mortis. Or I like the Ting, that
57:30
happened at the beginning of Shadow lands, where it was like
57:34
that, that particular renowned system honestly, Majid are in
57:40
Mecca. Gun was the correct amount of
57:43
content being released. It was the correct amount of
57:45
quest content that was being released.
57:47
And that did have some, some level of, like, week, over week
57:50
progression, that was happening. But also it had, it was just
57:55
dense, it was very dense or so week, over week progression.
58:00
Because I remember it is being the initial burst of questing
58:04
and then you just it was an initial thing and then each week
58:09
there were quest lines that were unlocked as you went through in
58:13
each zone. So there was there was like a
58:17
like a natural progression that went through overtime.
58:20
And then also, there were just, I don't remember that whole
58:24
bunch of quests going on a whole bunch of dailies that were
58:29
available. Well, that all changed on on
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like a day-to-day rotation. I do, I do remember the daily
58:37
Quest changing, right? Like it was.
58:39
And I do remember the like the world quest changing like well
58:44
Quest always do and rotate. I guess the additional questing
58:49
was when you got to particular levels of Friendship with your
58:53
companions. Is that what you're speaking
58:54
about? Yes.
58:55
So you had you had additional quests that were unlocked
58:59
through Companions that you were gaining, basically gaining
59:03
reputation with, but that's, that's kind of the, the idea
59:07
that I would propose is having stuff more like, like Majid are
59:15
just in terms of like density of activity, because there was,
59:20
there was a lot that you could do and you didn't have to do it
59:22
all in one go. Like, you could take it as you
59:25
as you wanted, and there was always something you could do,
59:28
but you didn't necessarily really feel like you had to do
59:30
it, but it was there, which I mean, I'm comparing, we're
59:35
comparing apples to oranges here because like what they've done
59:38
with, with the Wrath content is radically different than what
59:42
they did with nashit are in Bakugan, but I feel like that's
59:45
the closest. They've come to it in recent
59:47
history. Okay.
59:48
And then going back to your wrath analogy.
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What's to stop somebody from leveling surely through dungeons
59:57
or some non Quest objective, And then being able to get a ton of
1:00:02
these rare resources that are otherwise time-locked or or
1:00:07
otherwise locked because they didn't do the quest.
1:00:11
Or is it just specific Quest that would give these rare
1:00:14
resources at which point you would feel bad for having done
1:00:18
them before you hit cap. So this is what they've done for
1:00:24
that specific issue. Is that those resources that?
1:00:29
That you can get through these quests are available regardless
1:00:32
of what level you get to these quests as.
1:00:35
So I my experience in going through the question content has
1:00:40
been that I've been going through.
1:00:43
I started as soon as I hit Level 77.
1:00:45
I stopped what I was doing in Grizzly Hills.
1:00:48
I will return to Grizzly Hills. I promised everyone I've
1:00:51
overturned two Grizzly Hills and finish the Zone.
1:00:54
But as soon as I hit Level 77, I got my flying.
1:00:57
I got cold weather, flying and I It directly to icecrown and
1:01:01
started questing a nice grown and I've gotten the vast
1:01:06
majority of my experience from 77 to 79 almost like a bar and a
1:01:11
half away from the laity through questing and every single Quest
1:01:16
that is available that has had those those emblems as a quest
1:01:21
reward I have done and I've gotten the full the full extra
1:01:25
word from doing that. So the answer to that question,
1:01:30
is that it doesn't matter when it's just these quests, have
1:01:35
these rewards these like you do them, no matter what level you
1:01:39
are, whether you're a level cap, whether you're not level cap,
1:01:42
you do these Quest, you get these extra rewards but the
1:01:47
caveat So why are you going back to Grizzly Hills though?
1:01:52
Because I guess you left Grizzly Hills to go chase after these
1:01:56
special rewards. So are you going back to
1:01:59
Grizzly? He'll just because you want to
1:02:01
complete them in which case you would have completed them.
1:02:03
Anyways, gold gold is the answer.
1:02:07
Okay, so so once again, it's just changing the reward
1:02:12
incentivize incentivizing people, but that's the reason
1:02:16
that we did the questions or with mortise, even if people I
1:02:19
hated those those Quest that's the reason that we hated core
1:02:26
Thea because you had to do it in order to get the thing and it
1:02:29
was the wow chores isn't that just wow chores except that it's
1:02:34
not a system. It's just do these quests.
1:02:37
Well it's not it's not required. Like there is one way that you
1:02:42
can get these these rewards and I think it's still more
1:02:45
efficient. I think it's definitely Only
1:02:49
more efficient to go through and do the group content to do the
1:02:53
heroic dungeons to do to do your braids, every week to get these
1:03:00
currencies, or heroic dungeons on the lock and references are a
1:03:03
once-a-day lockout. Yes, okay, so if you do your
1:03:07
instance content, all of which has a lockout and now you're on
1:03:13
your hour or two. After you spent the first our
1:03:16
clearing through these, these become the only source For those
1:03:20
rewards that you haven't exploited yet, mmm and you would
1:03:25
be falling behind other players. If you didn't get these one-time
1:03:30
rewards, especially at the beginning, when rewards are
1:03:33
incredibly scarce. So yes.
1:03:38
Kind of the, the difference is that in modern well, we have a
1:03:43
system like Mythic plus where you're going through.
1:03:46
You're getting your Valor emblems, your Valor points,
1:03:50
through doing Mythic plus, which does scale infinitely, which
1:03:55
gives you that availability like this.
1:03:58
That's unique to its unique to wrath classic in that these
1:04:05
emblems are tied to To to heroic Dungeons.
1:04:09
And but then don't you have the opposite problem of now?
1:04:12
These rewards don't have enough incentive.
1:04:14
So why am I doing them? When I can just grind?
1:04:16
Mythic plus it gives something like, like, I think you found
1:04:21
something that will help people who avoid instants content and
1:04:24
still want that stuff, but that could easily be rewards that
1:04:28
they have on a rotating world quest reward.
1:04:31
That's why they had initially done rewards that you could only
1:04:36
get from doing. War front or only get from doing
1:04:39
Island expositions and, you know, I was always against that.
1:04:43
So I'm not sure how messing with incentives would avoid that
1:04:49
trap, which again, doesn't change Quest content to make it
1:04:53
more appealing. It just changes the rewards so
1:04:55
that you have to go through what would become a chore of doing
1:04:58
the quest? Like, what makes The Quest more
1:05:01
appealing? Other than the carrot at the end
1:05:02
of it? I guess that's the, I guess
1:05:07
that's the psychological question that the quest
1:05:09
designers have to answer. Well, that's why they're asking
1:05:12
us, right? If they have the answer, they
1:05:14
wouldn't be asking us. But I like the answer that you
1:05:18
gave because I think it is, it is the answer that people would
1:05:21
go to and it is an answer that I was thinking of, and had gone
1:05:26
through this entire process, which is why I was like, oh
1:05:28
yeah, you're right there with me live, but I think that there is
1:05:34
Such a thing as over incentivizing which is when you
1:05:37
get into the outdoors and I think there is such a thing as
1:05:40
yeah, you leave it with not enough incentive and then
1:05:42
everybody skips Co s contest altogether because they want to
1:05:46
rush to what they really want to do.
1:05:49
So it is an interesting question.
1:05:51
I'm going to I'm not going to put you on the spot.
1:05:53
Any further I'm going to leave that to our audience to go
1:05:56
through. And with that said, we are also
1:06:00
going to talk about a different part of Blizzard.
1:06:03
This is Actually regarding continuing developments with a
1:06:07
beak. A blizzard Alba knee has gotten
1:06:11
the right to form a rather vote to form a union.
1:06:17
And this is specifically, the 21 quality assurance testers that
1:06:22
are within blizzard Alba knee. A BK had been arguing that all
1:06:28
88 employees of the studio should be included in that
1:06:33
Collective body. However, the low pay of the
1:06:39
testers relative to the rest of the employees, help
1:06:43
differentiate that group from the rest of the employees.
1:06:46
According to the decision that was put out.
1:06:48
A BK had also argued that the testers who were working on
1:06:54
different. Idols didn't really belong in
1:06:56
the same bargaining unit and had said that the difference between
1:07:03
Diablo 2 resurrected and Diablo for is one of assignment?
1:07:09
Sorry. This is actually what the
1:07:12
board's Regional director had said in response to this the
1:07:18
National Labor relation board, by the way.
1:07:21
Yeah, yeah. So Linda Leslie.
1:07:25
On the National Labor Relations Board had set that the
1:07:28
difference between Diablo 2 and working on.
1:07:32
Diablo for is one of an assignment that is minimal to no
1:07:37
impact on the community of Interest among Associates test
1:07:41
analyst. And so they rejected that
1:07:44
argument as well, which means that it is going forward.
1:07:47
The nlrb it will be mailing out ballots through the eligible
1:07:51
employees, as of October 27th and Voters in that group must
1:07:58
return their balance by the close of the business day of
1:08:01
November 17th, the ballots will, then be counted.
1:08:05
And the count will take place via video conference on November
1:08:08
18th and then we will know the decision at that point.
1:08:12
I have linked an article from this is Shannon Leo and I
1:08:18
apologize if I'm butchering that but this is a Washington Post
1:08:21
article that had come out on it and I do encourage you guys.
1:08:25
Eyes to look at the show, notes to read up more about what is
1:08:28
happening there. It's very exciting that they
1:08:30
were getting more unionization efforts.
1:08:33
I've I don't think, I don't think it's, you know, terribly
1:08:38
and unexpected for, for me to say, you'll unions good.
1:08:44
But yeah, the fact that they're, that they're getting this vote
1:08:47
is is huge. It's huge.
1:08:50
And I'm very excited for these employees.
1:08:54
Yeah. So at this point, I'd like to
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Way is complete. I would like to thank the two
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winners who have both won a copy of the heroic addition.
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For dragonflight this was a really cool contest to do.
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We had people all voting for team live for a team, many, some
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people who didn't quite listen to instructions, but sure, it
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happened all the same, and I'm really happy for that.
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So, Again, congratulations to our winners which is krenz.
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Oh, and jazza K. And I apologize for messing up
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your names, but it was really great to give those codes away.
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With that said, I believe we have one last piece of news.
1:10:10
So what did this one about? We do?
1:10:12
This is some wrath news. We got we got a bit of an esport
1:10:19
announced like they snuck this in right under the radar and
1:10:23
this is completely The unexpected but blizzard is
1:10:29
putting together. An event called the undying
1:10:31
challenge. It is going to be happening this
1:10:33
weekend October 22nd and 23rd. We're basically what's
1:10:39
happening. Is they're taking one team from
1:10:42
North America, one team from Europe and putting them against
1:10:46
each other head-to-head in a in a race to see who can kill
1:10:50
kel'thuzad first or kill them. Kill them fastest.
1:10:55
Either way, this this is going to be to tinman teams that are
1:11:00
going to be going head-to-head. It won't so the actual, the
1:11:06
actual race isn't happening until until late morning on the
1:11:10
23rd and the 22nd and 23rd like the stream before that, the
1:11:17
actual race happens is going to be these teams taking their
1:11:20
fresh characters and going through a tour of all the Heroic
1:11:25
dungeons in northrend and then gearing up a little bit.
1:11:29
In the I have tourney eye of Eternity and obsidian sanctum
1:11:34
raids before going in to Duke it out against each other, going
1:11:40
through next ramus. So both teams will have full
1:11:45
rosters of fresh level, 80 characters and they're going to
1:11:50
be they're going to be going through starting at 10 a.m.
1:11:54
Pacific Time on the 23rd or the 22nd sorry they'll be going
1:11:59
through all the the heroic dungeons that day.
1:12:01
And then on the 23rd 10 a.m. Pacific Time Again they'll be
1:12:06
starting, I have eternity and obsidian sanctum.
1:12:08
And then around 11:00 saying around 11:00 because there could
1:12:13
be complications in this dream, whatever could be complications
1:12:16
The Raid, they want to make sure that both teams have enough time
1:12:19
to get through. Both of those initial raids
1:12:22
before the actual race. Begins through next ramus.
1:12:28
This is a fight that's going to be between two teams progress
1:12:34
for the EU and space force for in a they'll be going
1:12:38
head-to-head against each other streams.
1:12:40
For this event will be going on YouTube and twitch for both days
1:12:44
and the streams are going to be hosted by creaks hula hoops.
1:12:48
Sarthe and is Irene. So very excited for this
1:12:52
completely unexpected. They were going to be doing
1:12:55
something like this. I'd like especially especially
1:12:59
that this is a Like official Blizzard thing, but this is kind
1:13:03
of separate from raced world first, which we kind of have
1:13:07
discussed on this show before race world.
1:13:10
First in classic, just doesn't really mean anything.
1:13:14
Especially because like, basically as soon as they turn
1:13:17
on the raids, someone's going to clear someone's gonna clear
1:13:22
because it's already been figured out content.
1:13:23
It's not anything like Like the, the Modern World of Warcraft,
1:13:26
race to world forces that we have.
1:13:29
So that they're doing this, that they're doing a big Esports
1:13:34
event around raids in classic while I think is, is fantastic.
1:13:38
I personally going to be watching this myself.
1:13:41
So if you want to join me again, 22nd and 23rd, 10 a.m.
1:13:46
Pacific time, is when these events are going to be kicking
1:13:48
off, and I think it's going to be great fun.
1:13:53
I will not be watching these because I will be on vacation.
1:13:59
So I hope that you enjoy yourself with that live and let
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me know how it is with that said, we are going to get out of
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here. I will be away next week, but
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