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Episode Two Hundred Seventy Nine: The Truth Has No Chance · The Death Of Journalism

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  Speaker 1: Welcomed episode two hundred and seventy nine of the Death
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  Speaker 1: of Journalism Podcasts. My name is John Zigler. I'm your
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  Speaker 1: host on today's show. More chaos in Minnesota, including the
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  Speaker 1: arrest of Don Lemon. The Epstein files are finally fully released,
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  Speaker 1: and it all goes down exactly as I told you
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  Speaker 1: it would, only with an amazingly ironic twist. My friend
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  Speaker 1: Matt Lower's rape accuser is somehow out with a new book,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll explain exclusively how completely absurd that is. Plus
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  Speaker 1: a preview of the Super Bowl and whether conservative attempts
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  Speaker 1: to boycott the halftime show will work, and The Washington
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  Speaker 1: Post ends its historic sports section. We begin this episode
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  Speaker 1: of the podcast once again with what's happening in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to spend too much time on it
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  Speaker 1: because I'm frankly tired of Minnesota in virtually every possible way,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel compelled to at least address an update
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  Speaker 1: in the alex Pretty shooting and killing that dominated the
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  Speaker 1: news for several days and was at the top of
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  Speaker 1: last week's podcast. Soon after we released the last episode
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  Speaker 1: of this podcast, there became known a new video, A
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  Speaker 1: video of Pretty eleven days before the incident that led
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  Speaker 1: to his death. And this was a remarkable piece of video,
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  Speaker 1: so crazy that a lot of people, including Rock the
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  Speaker 1: AI for X, took a long time to be able
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  Speaker 1: to even confirm that the video was real. It was
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  Speaker 1: that nuts, but it was pretty acting like a complete
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  Speaker 1: nut job, attacking those that were immigration agents, kicking the
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  Speaker 1: taillight of a car, spitting on agents, acting completely out
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  Speaker 1: of control. Again, this is eleven days before the episode
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  Speaker 1: that led to his very very controversial death. And of
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  Speaker 1: course everybody looked at that new video and saw what
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to see, because that's the world we now
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  Speaker 1: live in, where everything is based upon what your own
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  Speaker 1: perspective is with everything's a roarshack test. Everybody sees reality
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  Speaker 1: through the prism of what they want to believe to
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  Speaker 1: be true. And I think there's a lot of different
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  Speaker 1: ways to interpret that new video that was actually old
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  Speaker 1: again eleven days before the incident that led to his death.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, it destroys the narrative that he was
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  Speaker 1: an innocent bystander that the Left tried to create. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they did everything they possibly could to make this guy
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  Speaker 1: into a saint. They used AI to make him look
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  Speaker 1: more handsome, which was utterly ridiculous. News organizations apparently did
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  Speaker 1: that or at least went along with the fake photos
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  Speaker 1: of him. You know, he became somebody who was almost
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  Speaker 1: a saint like caricature, and that guy destroyed by this
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  Speaker 1: new video. Of course, there's other ways to look at
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  Speaker 1: the video with regard to the context of what eventually happened.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that we can tell very much about
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  Speaker 1: what transpired eleven days earlier, other than we clearly know
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  Speaker 1: that Preddi was an agitator, that he was somebody who
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  Speaker 1: was more than willing to attack agents, either verbally or physically,
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  Speaker 1: and that does change the context a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: what we saw. However, you can also look at it
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  Speaker 1: in the other direction, where this idea that Christy Noman
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  Speaker 1: others in the Trump administration put forward that he was
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  Speaker 1: there to commit some sort of genocide or like a
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  Speaker 1: school shooting, a mass murder event doesn't seem to wash
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  Speaker 1: with the previous video because he had his gun on
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  Speaker 1: him at the time, and there was no attack then,
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  Speaker 1: and there was no attack by him on the day
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  Speaker 1: in which he was killed. So you know, you can
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  Speaker 1: look at this in a number of different ways. To me,
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  Speaker 1: I was most shocked by the fact that it took
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  Speaker 1: so long for this previous video to come to light.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, some people actually thought, well, is it possible
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  Speaker 1: that when Christy Nooam claimed that he was there to
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  Speaker 1: create a mass murder event on the day that he died,
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  Speaker 1: that she knew about this video and that this was
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  Speaker 1: evidence to substantiate that claim that didn't appear to have
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  Speaker 1: any evidence behind it. Had that been the case, she
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  Speaker 1: obviously would have at least mentioned, if not shown, that video,
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  Speaker 1: because that video already existed in the public domain. It
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  Speaker 1: had already been posted on YouTube. So I guess one
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  Speaker 1: shocked that in this date age, I mean, the government,
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  Speaker 1: which we tend to think knows everything and has all
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  Speaker 1: these incredible investigative tools, was not able to put two
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  Speaker 1: and two together. This was the same guy, even when
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  Speaker 1: it might have been in their own self interest to
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  Speaker 1: help substantiape this narrative that they were creating. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that was amazing to me that this ends up becoming
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  Speaker 1: known because of some small media outlet that no one's
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of before, and Christy Nolan clearly didn't know
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  Speaker 1: about it. The Trump administration clear that Lee didn't know
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  Speaker 1: about it, because they would have used it to facilitate
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  Speaker 1: their narrative, but they didn't. So I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: you can discern anything from the new video about what
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  Speaker 1: really transpired on the day that he died, other than
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  Speaker 1: this guy was no saint and was clearly an agitator,
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  Speaker 1: clearly an activist, was clearly capable of provoking an event
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  Speaker 1: that occurred that might end up transpiring, and what happened
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  Speaker 1: on the day that he died. Again, I'm not changing
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  Speaker 1: my mind that the shooting was immoral, inappropriate, not necessary. Again,
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  Speaker 1: there's a big difference between the legality and the morality
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  Speaker 1: of these situations. I tend to be in the camp
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  Speaker 1: of okay, maybe legally justifiable or defensible, but not morally,
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  Speaker 1: and certainly from a political standpoint, There's no question that
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  Speaker 1: it's incredibly damaging that now two of these episodes have
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  Speaker 1: occurred in a short period of time in the same place.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about that in the last episode of the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But I do find it just amazing that this video
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  Speaker 1: existed in the public sphere for quite a while, even
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  Speaker 1: days after Pretty was killed, before it became known, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, of course and this is the
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  Speaker 1: way we now live our world. They looked at the
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  Speaker 1: video and they saw what they wanted to see, just
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  Speaker 1: like they saw the original video, just like they saw
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  Speaker 1: the original video of the woman Renee Good, who was
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  Speaker 1: killed by ice agents a couple of weeks ago. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very frustrating world to live it because the truth
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  Speaker 1: has no real chance. The truth is what you want
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  Speaker 1: it to be. And there are news outlets or media
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  Speaker 1: outlets or online outlets that are more than willing to
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  Speaker 1: provide you with what you want to believe because it's
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  Speaker 1: in their business interest to do that. That's the business model. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Tell people what they want to believe, make them feel
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  Speaker 1: better about the news, whether it's liberal or conservative or
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in between. That's the world we live in, and
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  Speaker 1: it's very very frustrating for somebody like myself and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: many of you are subscribers to this podcast, who actually
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  Speaker 1: care about finding out what the truth is. It's incredibly
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  Speaker 1: and exceedingly and increasingly difficult to discern fact from fiction,
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  Speaker 1: truth and reality from fantasy and mythology. And that's part
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  Speaker 1: of what this podcast is all about. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: really have a final conclusion on the pretty situation yet,
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  Speaker 1: but that new video certainly is fascinating, especially given the
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  Speaker 1: nature of the video itself and how long it took
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  Speaker 1: for it to become public, even well after the day
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  Speaker 1: that he was killed by immigration agents working for the DHS. Now,
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  Speaker 1: another situation that occurred in Minnesota involved former CNN anchor
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  Speaker 1: Don Lemon, who was arrested at a protest inside a
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota church. Now, this is a very complicated issue. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very nuanced issue, one that I expect to cover
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  Speaker 1: in more detail should the case against Lemon go forward.
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  Speaker 1: But I just want to address it very quickly at
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  Speaker 1: the outset of this narrative because I do think it
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  Speaker 1: is potentially an important story, obviously for journalism, but there's
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  Speaker 1: so many of these questions about, Okay, is Lemon acting
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  Speaker 1: as a journalist or is he acting as an activist?
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  Speaker 1: And it's obvious at times Don Lemon is an activist
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  Speaker 1: taking part in for all intents and purposes, this protest,
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  Speaker 1: this trespassing and disruption of a church service, which is
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  Speaker 1: how it ends up being perceived by the federal government
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  Speaker 1: as a crime. And that's why he's been indicted or
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  Speaker 1: I believe, or just arrested I'm not sure he's been
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  Speaker 1: indicted or what, but he's been charged I think federally.
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  Speaker 1: Don Lemon has not from a state perspective, but from
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  Speaker 1: a federal standpoint, because it is being alleged that he
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  Speaker 1: took part in this crime of trespassing and disrupting a
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  Speaker 1: church service. But is he there covering the disruption of
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  Speaker 1: the church service or is he taking part in that event.
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  Speaker 1: That's something that I think is very very difficult to discern,
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  Speaker 1: especially in this day and age in which we live.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's no longer working for CNN, but does
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  Speaker 1: that mean that he's not a journalist. Well, he held
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  Speaker 1: a microphone and he was interviewing people while this happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but the interviews were really more arguments where he was
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  Speaker 1: trying to convince people at the church of the justice
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  Speaker 1: of the cause of the people that he was clearly
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  Speaker 1: aligned with who were trespassing within the church and disrupting
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  Speaker 1: this church service. So even though I am someone who
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  Speaker 1: very strongly defends the rights of journalists and I am
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  Speaker 1: a free speech advocate, and it also bothers me greatly
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  Speaker 1: that it certainly appears as if this might be a
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  Speaker 1: targeted prosecution because Don Lemon is perceived as a gay
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  Speaker 1: black man who worked for CNN, as someone who's very
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  Speaker 1: very liberal and who is against the Trump administration. And
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  Speaker 1: it's clearly in keeping with the Trump administration mo that
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  Speaker 1: they may target somebody for a crime and for prosecution
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  Speaker 1: simply because of who they are. So that is also
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  Speaker 1: very bothersome. The journalism aspect of this and the potential
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  Speaker 1: for selective prosecution is also very very troubling here. Ironically,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know Don Lemon personally, but Don Lemon is
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  Speaker 1: very close to Matt Lower, who I'll be talking about
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  Speaker 1: in short order on this episode of the podcast, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, Matt likes Don Lemon. Don has been very
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  Speaker 1: supportive of Matt publicly, which I respect Don for. My
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  Speaker 1: sense of Don Lemon is that he's not actually nearly
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  Speaker 1: as liberal on most issues as he is perceived as being.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I think privately he might even be somewhat
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  Speaker 1: of a closet conservative on some issues. I think mostly
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  Speaker 1: Don Lemon is looking for attention. He's been fired from CNN.
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  Speaker 1: He's an independent podcaster, journalist, whatever you want to call him,
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  Speaker 1: and he loves attention like most of these people do.
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  Speaker 1: And Frankly, the bottom line of this thing so far,
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  Speaker 1: assuming he doesn't end up going to prison for an
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  Speaker 1: extended period of time, is that this was a fantastic
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  Speaker 1: series of events for Don Lemon. He got way more
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  Speaker 1: attention that he's gotten recently. He's got more credibility now
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  Speaker 1: on the left that he's had since he left CNN.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think Don Lemon right now, and I
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  Speaker 1: have no inside information on this at all, but my
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  Speaker 1: sense is that Don Lemon at this moment is probably
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  Speaker 1: pretty happy that this whole thing happened, which is such
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  Speaker 1: an indication of how totally upside down this whole world is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so it's really kind of difficult to get upset.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're going after Don Lemon because you
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  Speaker 1: perceive him as a political enemy and you're also attacking journalism.
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  Speaker 1: But also we lived in a fucked up world where
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  Speaker 1: someone like Don Lemon might actually be happy that something
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  Speaker 1: like this transpired. And of course I have a special
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  Speaker 1: connection to this type of story because if you know
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  Speaker 1: anything about my career, I was also arrested and charged
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  Speaker 1: in a situation where I was far less culpable to
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  Speaker 1: any kind of disturbance than Don Lemon was I'm referring
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  Speaker 1: to what happened to me at the infamous Matt Sandusky
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  Speaker 1: speaking engagement almost a decade ago now, where I was
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  Speaker 1: just sitting in a seat waiting for Matt Sandusky to speak,
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  Speaker 1: with a ticket in my own name, and I was
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  Speaker 1: physically dragged away by police in a horrendous situation and
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  Speaker 1: charged with cries that if I had been convicted of,
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  Speaker 1: would have put me in jail for almost twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: which was completely and totally ridiculous. Everything ended up getting
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  Speaker 1: thrown out in the end, but it costs me a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time, money, and aggravation. But I got no
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  Speaker 1: support in the media zero, because nobody in the media
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be associated with my cause I'm not a celebrity,
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  Speaker 1: le Don Lemon, and obviously no one could understand why
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  Speaker 1: someone would be seemingly going after Matt Sandusky, a sanctivied
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  Speaker 1: sex abuse victim of Jerry Sedusky, even though that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: And the reality is that Matt's a fraud, but nobody
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  Speaker 1: in the media understood that or wanted to understand that.
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  Speaker 1: So I have a little less sympathy for this whole
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  Speaker 1: We must support journalism thing, because when it happened to
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  Speaker 1: me in a far, far worse circumstance, nobody, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean nobody stood up for me. But I think the
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  Speaker 1: bottom line right now is I do think that the
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  Speaker 1: concerns about what this means for journalism are legitimate. I
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  Speaker 1: do think that the concerns about selective prosecution are legitimate.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think that by the letter of the law,
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen some pretty reasonable legal analysis of this,
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  Speaker 1: the case against Don Lemon may also be legally legitimate
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  Speaker 1: because of this issue of whether or not he's really
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  Speaker 1: acting as a journalist or whether or not he's acting
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  Speaker 1: as a co conspirator in this crime. So it would
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  Speaker 1: not surprise me if this thing actually went forward and
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  Speaker 1: maybe even got a trial, which, of course, again depending
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  Speaker 1: on the results of that trial, might be something that
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  Speaker 1: Don Lemon is actually looking forward to because it gives
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  Speaker 1: attention and credibility in the larger picture everything that's been
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  Speaker 1: going on with immigration enforcement. I talked in the last
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  Speaker 1: episode of the podcast about the political damage that is
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  Speaker 1: being done to the Republican brand, and it appears to
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  Speaker 1: be substantial. Now it's very very difficult at this point
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  Speaker 1: to discern exactly you know how much damage has been done.
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  Speaker 1: But there was a state Senate race in Texas this
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  Speaker 1: past week, and who knows what role of any the
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  Speaker 1: issue of immigration enforcement played in this, But on paper,
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  Speaker 1: this was a catastrophe for Republicans. Where you had a
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  Speaker 1: Senate race in Texas, the Senate district where Trump won
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  Speaker 1: by seventeen points in twenty twenty four, the Republican had
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  Speaker 1: a major monetary advantage and the Democrat won in a
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  Speaker 1: blowout in Texas. Now, it's easily conceivable that, especially in
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  Speaker 1: an area where you have a lot of Hispanics who
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  Speaker 1: are potentially, you know, on the fence. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: Hispanics went for Trump at twenty twenty four, but they
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  Speaker 1: might be offended this is all in theory by what
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  Speaker 1: they're seeing nationwide with regard to the immigration raids, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe just a lot of moderates in a district that's
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  Speaker 1: not ruby red who are being offended by what they're seeing.
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  Speaker 1: Plus there's obviously economic issues and all sorts of other
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  Speaker 1: potential issues that could be going on. But it's indication,
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  Speaker 1: it's not proof. It's an indication that the Republican brand
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  Speaker 1: is taking a massive beating for a whole host of reasons,
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  Speaker 1: and that right now now, there's a lot that can
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  Speaker 1: still happen. You know, the big beautiful bill. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a republic and you're hoping that that's going to start
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  Speaker 1: to take some impact. People are going to see significant
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  Speaker 1: refunds on their taxes in a few months, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: who knows the perception of the economy may get better.
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  Speaker 1: You've got the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary celebrations of
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  Speaker 1: the country, which, in theory, with Trump at the helm,
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  Speaker 1: could help the Republican brand. But in my mind, and
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  Speaker 1: I this is almost such conventional wisdom, I'm afraid to
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  Speaker 1: back it because the conventional wisdom is usually wrong, but
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  Speaker 1: it's You can make a very strong argument that as
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  Speaker 1: we start February of twenty twenty six, the chances of
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  Speaker 1: the Republicans holding the very very slim majority they have
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  Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives is darn near zero. You've
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  Speaker 1: got the complete redistricting sham in California, which at this
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  Speaker 1: point has not been overturned. You've got Virginia looking like
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  Speaker 1: they're going to do the same thing. Yes, Texas did it,
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  Speaker 1: but by and large, the redistricting situation is going to advantage.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like Democrats and not Republicans. Plus you've got
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  Speaker 1: an off year election in the middle of a lame
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  Speaker 1: duck term, which is rarely ever good for the party
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  Speaker 1: in power. So you could make a very safe bet
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  Speaker 1: Democrats are going to win the House of Representatives, and
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  Speaker 1: if that Texas Senate raises any indication, it could be
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  Speaker 1: a bloodbath for Republicans. And I think the Senate is
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  Speaker 1: very much in play, very much in play. And if
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  Speaker 1: the Senate really is in play, then Sam Alito and
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  Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas have got to start thinking about retirement pronto,
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  Speaker 1: because if Trump goes into his last two years without
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  Speaker 1: the House or the Senate and can't get a decent
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  Speaker 1: candidate through the confirmation process in the Senate for the
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  Speaker 1: US Supreme Court, that's going to be a big, big problem. Again,
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  Speaker 1: we're not there yet, but we're starting to get now
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  Speaker 1: now in the February, we're starting to get close to
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  Speaker 1: the point of no return, because it can't turn a
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  Speaker 1: midterm election around in a few days. That this is
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  Speaker 1: a very long process. A lot of narrative points have
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  Speaker 1: to happen, and right now they're all pointing in the
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  Speaker 1: direction of the Democrats and not the Republicans. One other
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  Speaker 1: element of this Ice story or the immigration story, and
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  Speaker 1: what I'm about to tell you is an Ice story
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  Speaker 1: in two different ways. I did find it amusing and
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  Speaker 1: an incredible evidence and piece of medium outpractice that occurred
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  Speaker 1: by New York Magazine with regard to how much the
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  Speaker 1: left wing media is towing the line on making sure
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  Speaker 1: that the immigration enforcement stories are front and center, that
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  Speaker 1: that's where the mainstream news media needs to be focusing
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  Speaker 1: all of their attention. And this I thought was so
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  Speaker 1: amusing and so telling, this headline from New York Magazine,
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  Speaker 1: and it deals with CBS News and Barry Weiss, who's
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  Speaker 1: just taken over CBS News, and the knives are out
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  Speaker 1: for Barry Weiss. I mean they know internally at CBS
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  Speaker 1: they hate her. They think somehow that she's a right
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  Speaker 1: wing activist. I mean, this is a woman who is
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  Speaker 1: married to a woman who was a liberal New York
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  Speaker 1: Times columnist who has some extremely liberal positions, but because
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  Speaker 1: she brands herself as anti woke, and she eventually, after
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  Speaker 1: being duped at the start, eventually got it on the
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  Speaker 1: whole COVID panic. It's just absolutely ludicrous that she is
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  Speaker 1: being perceived by the left as some sort of a trader.
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  Speaker 1: But this is how invested in making sure that the
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  Speaker 1: media doesn't let go of the immigration enforcement stories the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream is. This was the headline in New York Magazine
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday through Monday Barry Weiss's CBS News sideline the
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  Speaker 1: biggest story of the moment in order in other words,
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  Speaker 1: the immigration enforcement, the killings of good and pretty in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: their mind, that was the biggest story of the moment,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and chose to emphasize dot dot todd a snowstorm. It
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: reveals a stark truth about the network shift toward the right.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Somebody at New York Magazine actually wrote
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that post of it publicly as a headline on a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: story a news outlet criticizing another news outlet for having
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the audacity to cover a massive snowstorm that negatively impacted
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: directly the lives of millions and millions of people. That's
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a very legitimate news story, a snowstorm, especially in the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: which is highly unusual even in February late January, for
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a snowstorm like we just saw, so of course it's
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a news story. Now you can argue juralistically how big
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of a story is it. Does that mean you're gonna
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: completely They didn't. CBS didn't stop covering the immigration enforcement story.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: They just made a decision, which I think was perfectly defensible,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that this snowstorm is a massive story directly impacting the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: lives of millions and millions of people. That is not
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: a shift to the right. That might be a shift
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: towards Hey, let's talk about stories that people actually care
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: about because it's impacting their life. You could argue that
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the snowstorm, as far as the impact on people's lives,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was by far the biggest story of the month. And
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: yet somehow that's an indication of the network shift to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the right. Completely ridiculousness, But it's also an indication of
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: how much the knives are out for Barry Weiss at
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: CBS and within the mainstream news media. By the way,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: with regard to the snowstorm, I don't want to let
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it slide that we saw evidence that I have been
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: totally vindicated on one of the things that I have
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: said constantly in the aftermath of the COVID panic. I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: said that the COVID panic was gonna change forever the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: threshold for closing schools and that should have been obvious.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I mean that was my first thought when the COVID
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: panic happened. I said, oh my god. First of all,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: we're never going to reopen. And second of all, forever
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and ever, especially in Blue states, we are going to
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: close schools. We're gonna postpone and cancel events on a
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: whim because we've set a new precedent, We've set a
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: new set of rules, and you know, it's safety over
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: everything out of an abundance of caution. We can't take
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: any risks at all, real or perceived or mythological. And
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: we saw that with regard to the aftermath of the snowstorm,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: especially in Blue states. It was a situation where we
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: had closings in Virginia, now a full on blue state.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, Virginia has become essentially Illinois and getting worse
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: every day, even though many of the voters didn't understand
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: what they were voting for. I don't think in last
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: year's election in Virginia, but they had schools closed for
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: days and days after businesses were wide open. Pennsylvania saw
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a similar situation. I mean, all these these blue state
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: municipalities when they have any opportunity to close schools, they're
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: going to do so, and we saw that with this
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: most recent snowstorm, and it really is an indication of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: just how dramatically and seemingly permanently our culture has changed
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: because of the stupidity that transpired uring the COVID panic.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Speaking of stupidity, I have to at least mention with
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, and there's so many stories
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I need to get to during this episode of the podcast,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna delve into it too deeply, but
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: it just is an amazing reality and incredibly depressing. That
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: one story that I'm gonna guess you have not even
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: heard about because it's gotten incredibly little attention has to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: do with the twenty twenty not COVID panic, but the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: presidential election, where the President of the United States, Donald
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Trump has publicly been promoting an absolutely looney Tunes conspiracy
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: theory that somehow the Italian government used satellite technology to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: hack into our voting systems in twenty twenty and throw
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the election to Joe Biden. No evidence for this whatsoever, none.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: It's completely insane. It's an absurd theory on its face,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: there's no evidence for it. But the President of the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: United States publicly, not privately. It's not a situation where
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: this is, you know, second or third hand. He told
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a friend who then told a reporter, you know, it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: double hearsay or whatever. No, no, no, this is the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: President of the United States, in his own name, publicly
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: promoting this ridiculous, nonsensical theory for which there is absolutely
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: no evidence, and no one really cared. There was a
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: little bit of reporting about it, like can you believe
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the president just did this? But that's how desensitized we
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: are to complete in total insanity. There is no evidence
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: for this, there's no logic for this. It's absurd on
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: its face. It would have massive implications if it was
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: even remotely true, but it's not. But this is how
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: crazy Trump still is in general and specifically regarding the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. And there's all sorts of rumors and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: indications that something is about to break within the Trump
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: administration on the twenty twenty election, Tulci, Gabbard and Georgia
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and all sorts of weird things going on. So my
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: expectations are that we have not heard the end of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: this lunacy. And I don't want to spend too much
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: time on it. I just want to acknowledge him, and
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: if more occurs on this front, will cover it in
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: later episodes of the podcast. But we are living in
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: some really, really fucked up times where the craziest conspiracy
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: theory can be promoted and touted by the President the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: United States and it makes almost no impact anymore. Of course,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: we believe in almost every conspiracy now, I mean, everything's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a conspiracy, even though we're living in a time period
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: when actually pulling off a conspiracy could not be more
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: difficult because of you know, social media and all sorts
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of other technological advances. It's almost impossible to pull off
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a massive conspiracy, but people believe in them, and they
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: believe in them more and more every time there's a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: new one. I've said this constantly. One grand conspiracy begets
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: another when you buy into and I use this as
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the ultimate example because I think this is where this
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: really began. If you buy into the JFK assassination conspiracy,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: which I have debunked many many times, it's far easier
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to believe the next one and the next one, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the you know, the moon landing was faked, and you
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: know nine to eleven was an inside job and the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty election was rigged at all sorts of other
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy theories. I'm leaving a lot of them off
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the list because there's too many to name these days. Well,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that's what's really driving and has been driving for years,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: this crazy, absurd, unsubstantiated, nonsensical Jeffrey Epstein narrative. And we
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: have finally seen what appears to be the final release.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Although just as I told you, no one's going to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: be happy about it. No one is going to consider
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: this to be all the information, because there's going to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: be enough that's redacted that people will claim that there's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: more still out there, especially when they don't get their
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: narrative substantiated. But officially, we've now reached the point where
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: all the Epstein files have been released publicly by the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Trump DJ And I'm in a very weird spot here because,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in my very strong opinion, I have been completely vindicated
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in virtually everything that I have said. But I'm not
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: happy about it at all. In fact, it's driving me
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Maybe it's because I predicted exactly how this
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: is all going to go down, is why the insanity
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: is more difficult for me to accept. I mean, you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: would think it would be the opposite, but for whatever reason,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it's not. What I told you was that this was
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a story too big to fail, that the mythology of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this thing had grown way, way way beyond any rational
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: proportions and was not based in reality, and that these
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: files was going to have a ton of bullshit attached
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to them, and that we were going to see no
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: substantiation of the primary narrative, which was that there was
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: this massive sex trafficking ring, and that there was this
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: list of co conspirators and people that engaged in sex
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: trafficking of minor children or girls, however you want to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: describe it, and that this was the source of Epstein's
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: power and money, was a blackmail organization, and that lots
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of powerful and rich, well known people were going to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: be ensnared in this. That that's I always I told
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you for well over a year that story was bullshit,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: that was never gonna happen, and there was never going
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to be any evidence of any credibility within these files.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: But I also told you that there was going to
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: be a lot of crap in there, and that because
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the narrative is too big to fail. They're going to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: find somebody to destroy. The masses have been promised a
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: witch hunt, They've they've been promised a public execution. So
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the media is going to give it to them. And
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that is exactly what has transpired in the last few
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: days since the final release of the so called Epstein files.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Let's be clear, there is no evidence anywhere in these
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: files of criminal activity by anybody other than Jeffrey Epstein
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and maybe Glenne Maxwell, who's currently in a federal prison. None. Now,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: is there theoretical evidence that could be a lead in
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: wanting to investigate somebody who could have possibly been involved. Yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: by the way, that's a small number of people, and
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: none of them are prominent, powerful people. They were people
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: within Epstein's orbit that were never charged with a crime here.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: But that's not what the public was promised. That's not
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: what the left wing and the right wing media bought
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: into with regard to this mythological narrative. But so now
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: that there's no direct evidence, they have to figure out
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a way to substantiate all of the attention that this
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: has been getting. They also have to give the audience
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: what they want. The audience has been thirsting for a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: public execution of elites, and so now we need to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: dramatically lower the bar to get there. We were told
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: at the beginning this was all about coming to some
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: sort of justice for the survivors and to track down
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: these terrible prominent men who engaged in rape of young
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: girls and sex trafficking. That's what this was supposed to
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: be about, finding criminals. That's not what this has become
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: in the last few days. This has become about going
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: through all of these personal, private, internal messages from years
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and years ago that have absolutely nothing to do with
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: criminal activity that embarrass very public people, either based upon
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: something that appears to be real but not criminal, or
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: in many cases, could be completely and totally made up.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: But the media doesn't give a shit because there's a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: built in audience for this. I've said it many, many times.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: One of the most dangerous things that can happen in
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: any media narrative is for the story to become too
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: big to fail. Everyone becomes invested in a particular narrative
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and there's an audience that needs to be served. And
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: this story was unique because of a perfect storm of circumstances.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Both the left wing media and the right wing media
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: became virtually equally invested in a similar mythology, the only
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: difference being the culpability of Donald Trump. The left wing
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: media decided that they could jump on this because it
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: looked like they saw blood in the water with regard
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to Trump. I told you many, many times that was
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a fantasy. I think the left wing media, and I
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: talked with David Schuster, left wing commentator about this on
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: this podcast, I think they misinterpreted when Thomas Massey and
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green jumped on the Epstein bandwagon, as two
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Republican congress people who had been at times, especially with Green,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: very very pro Trump. They saw that as aha, aha.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't be doing this unless they knew something that
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: we didn't know. This is clearly gonna all lead back
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: to Trump. No, no, no, they got duped. They got
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: willingly duped because they had been fired from MAGA. They
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: needed a justification for their firing. They needed to be
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: able to say they stood on the moral high ground.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: They also, in the case of mass seat, need a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: pathway to maintaining their seat in Congress. Mcgreen may have
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: started off thinking the same thing, but then it became
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: clear that without Trump's support. She couldn't pull that off,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: and so the left wing they created their own mythology.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: They were so desperate for finally getting Trump that they
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: bought in to this narrative well after the maga media
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: already had for reasons that I will always be missed
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to fight about. But I've been telling you for a
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: very very long time, the essence of this story is
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: a molehill in comparison to the mountain that has been
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: created around it. The essence of this story, and there's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: been nothing in this most recent release that goes against
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this narrative at all, even a little bit, is that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein hired a lot of prostitutes, some of whom
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: were underage of consent. He pled guilty to that many
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: years before he eventually killed himself in a federal prison
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: when he was charged a second time for similar crimes. Okay,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that's what we know. Now. Does that mean that's all
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that happened. No, I'm open to all sorts of scenarios.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'm someone who believes that especially powerful people are capable
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: of all sorts of terrible things. But I need some
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: sort of evidence, I need some sort of logic, and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the further we got into the story, the more obvious
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it became that it does not exist. And the perfect
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: proof that the most recent release of the Epstein files
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: does nothing at all to substantiate the original narrative that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: drove all this hysteria is the stories that we're seeing,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the so called scandals that we're seeing. We're not seeing
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: any stories of criminal activity or names of people on
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a list, or evidence of Epstein conspiring or blackmailing powerful
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: people with these terrible acts against children. None. Zero, And
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: by the way, we should be seeing that. I mean,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: this is a ridiculous amount of inside information where I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: mean personal emails is about as close to surveillance video
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: as you can possibly get. Sometimes it's even better because
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: people are telling their own personal secrets and things they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: should never say on an email. They obviously have no
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: expectations that's ever going to become public. I mean, so
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: if the evidence was there, we would have seen it
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: in spades by now, and instead there's nothing. Instead, the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: big headlines are Bill Gates. Bill Gates supposedly said to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Epstein that he needed help getting drugs for his wife
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: because he got an STD from some sort of Russian
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: escort Okay, let's pretend that that's true. That's interesting. Bad
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: luck for Bill Gates that became public. Is that a
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: new story. Well, Bill Gates is an incredibly important figure.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: He's obviously very famous. Okay, maybe that's a news story.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: It's not criminal, not even close to criminal. And so
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know how big of a story that really
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: should be. But okay, I can see that in some
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: context that would be legitimate fodder for public consumption, if
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: given at least some semblance of context. Except we have
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: no evidence that that's even what fucking happened. The media
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: has done a terrible job, and of course the public
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't give a shit because the mass has just won
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: a public execution of elites. Do you understand I'm asking
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: this rhetorically. Many of you's, hopefully intelligent subscribers to the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast, if you've done your own research
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of this story, hopefully you're already aware that there is
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: no email from Bill Gates saying that to Jeffrey Epstein.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: That doesn't exist. You know what does exist, an email
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: or a message of some sort. Jeffrey Epstein wrote about
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: this subject to himself to himself. Now there are all
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: sorts of possible reasons why Epstein could have done that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: That is not the same thing, not even close to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the same thing from an evidentiary perspective, as as Gates
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: actually writing in an email this scenario. So, does it
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: mean it's false. No, it doesn't mean it's false. But
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Epstein is dead. Epstein cannot verify or provide any context
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: to this. Gates has strongly denied that this ever happened
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: and says that the email is fake and doesn't understand
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: what Epstein was talking about. Does that mean Gates is
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: telling the truth? I don't know. I think it's possible
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Gates is telling the truth. I know a lot of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: people hate Bill Gates. I don't like Bill Gates. I
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: have a lot of anger towards Bill Gates, especially over
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: his past support for the global warming bullshit narrative and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the COVID vaccine narrative. I don't like Bill Gates at all.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But I also don't like people being falsely accused of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: shit based upon bullshit evidence. I mean, so, there is
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: no email from Bill Gates admitting or acknowledging this. By
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the way, even the interview with his ex wife Melinda
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is incredibly vague about this. Right now as we speak,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: people are using this interview as Aha, Melinda Gates is
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: verifying this story. No, she's not. Her answer is incredibly
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: overtly vague, so vague that I have to believe that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: it's not really true. And she just doesn't want to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: be the one to put cold water on it because
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: as an ex wife, she has animist towards Bill Gates,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and she's getting lots of attention and sympathy for Bill
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Gates and his role in the whole Epstein Files. So
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: his ex wife doesn't verify the story. Bill Gates denies it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein is dead, yet this is being treated like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it's a real fucking news story. And even bigger. The
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: bigger picture with regard to the way the media has
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: treated the Bill Gates aspect of this is the idea
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein is somehow a trustworthy narrator, that what
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: he says is inherently true. And this happens constantly. So
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: many of these little stories that have popped up in
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: the in the aftermath of the Epstein Files release are
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: all based in the assumption, the presumption that Jeffrey Epstein
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: must be telling the truth. Now. I get the concept
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: of admission in private against self interest, which, okay, that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: can sometimes lend credibility to a statement that doesn't in
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and of itself prove a statement to be true. But
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I find it to be hilariously hypocritical for Epstein to
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: be simultaneously the worst man in the twenty first century
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: other than maybe Jerry Sandusky, who I'll get to momentarily.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And yet also he's incredibly trustworthy, a very very honest
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: man who would never say something untrue in a private message,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: never make a joke, never make up a story for
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: his own amusement, never say something that was false because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: it was perceived by him to be in his own
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: self interest. No, no, no, no, that only happens when
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: we don't like what he's saying. When we like what
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: he's saying, If you're the media, it must be true.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: It is enough verification, even though he's fucking dead. I mean,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: emails from a dead person who should be in the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: minds of most people complete discredited, right because he's this
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: terrible guy. That's what we've been told time and time
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and time again. Are not evidence of anything, at least
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: not in a rational journalistic world and if they were,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: and I've said this to you know, dozens of people
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: in the last few days who have been relying on
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Epstein's quote unquote, you know, testimony, and these these messages
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that are very old and obviously we're private, and obviously
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: we're not under oath, and and he's never been questioned about.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: But if you believe him to be a trustworthy narrator,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: if you believe him to be honest, then you have
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to believe that Prince Andrew was innocent. You have to
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: believe that because the emails released by the Epstein estate
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: between Andrew and Epstein when the first allegation came forward
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: about Prince then then Prince Andrew, now just Andrew. It's clear,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: could not be more clear from the exchanges between Epstein
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and Andrew that Andrew is an innocent man. Couldn't be
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: more clear. Now, does that prove that Andrew is innocent?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: No?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: But be fucking consistent. Please. If Epstein is a trustworthy narrative,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: what narrator, when you like what he says, then you
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: at least had to consider the idea that this exchange
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: between Epstein and Andrew is exculpatory for Prince Andrew. But
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: nobody likes that narrative because we've already destroyed Andrew's life.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: We can't go back on that. We've already completely destroyed him.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: He's not even a prince anymore. He's barely got a
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: roof over his head. And by the way, speaking of Andrew,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: he got crucified again because there's some very weird pictures
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that came forward in the Epstein files of him fully clothed. Essentially, well,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I guess on all fours over top a body of
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a woman who's fully clothed and whose face is redacted.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: They have done Andrews so dirty in these redactions, because
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: when you redact the face, it certainly seems to me
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: as if it's an adult woman. I have no idea
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: what's happening in these photographs. I mean, it's weird. Who
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the fuck knows, I have no idea, But when you
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: redact the face, it makes it seem inherently nefarious. For
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: all we know, the woman is smiling in the picture,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: laughing in the picture. There could be doing some sort
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: of a jokes sort of situation. They could be, you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: just rough housig or whatever. Who the hell knows. I
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: have no idea. The pictures as they are presented are weird,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: but they're particularly weird and seemingly nefarious when you redact
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the face and there's some sort of presumption that that
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: person was a victim. That's not the standard that they
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: use for redacting the faces. They redacted the faces of
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: every single fucking female other than Gallaine Maxwell. But because
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: people already presume they know that Andrew is guilty, they go, oh,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: my god, look how the prave this is. It's weird.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: They're all fully clothed. Who the hell knows what they're doing.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: There's no contacts for these photos, but hang him anyway.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's this whole thing is such an obvious
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: witch hunt, and we have lowered the bar now to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: an absolutely absurd degree in order to justify this witch
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: hunt and this narrative that no one wants to admit
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: they were duped on My god, no one wants to
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: admit they were duped on this. I predicted this, but
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it's still driving me crazy when I'm seeing it in
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: real life. George Mitchell, of all people, had a statue
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: taken down by an academic institution because he was mentioned
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: in the files. George Mitchell. George Mitchell is going around
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: having sex with young girls, completely ridiculous, not even allegation
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: of that. He's just in the files.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Me.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: The most ridiculous story currently is the head of the
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Olympic Committee for twenty twenty eight is being
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: asked or demanded or maybe being forced to resign from
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: his position because he is in the Epstein files. What
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: did he do? What did he do? He wrote an
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: email not to Epstein but to Glenn Maxwell in two
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: thousand and three. In two thousand and three, Maxwell, First
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: of all, Epstein was not even a known sexual criminal
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: for lack of better term, until two thousand and eight,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: when he pleaded guilty to just as I told you,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: hiring prostitutes, some of whom were underage, and he got
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: what is perceived now as a sweetheart deal because he
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: had no record. It was the first time offense, but
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that was not even close to any semblance of reality.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yet it was five years until that, and Maxwell wasn't
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: implicated in that situation. Maxwell was convicted in a sham
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: trial in twenty twenty one. So this Casey Wasserman, head
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Olympic Committee for twenty twenty eight,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: sens a flirtatious email in two thousand and three to
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Glaine Maxwell, who again Epstein's not even a known criminal
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: at that point, and somehow, all these years later, people
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: are publicly demanding and the media is going along with
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: this attempt to get him to be forced to resign
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: from his position as the head of the LA Olympic Committee.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: My friend Alex Megilson, who's now at CNN, he did
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of segments on this head an LA supervisor
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: on to make the case that Wasserman ought to resign.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Michaelson posted the clip. I went apoplectic. I'm like, I
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: cannot believe that there was no pushback on this. I
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: mean at all, because the clip that Michaelson put out
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: on Twitter had no pushback at all, not even mentioning
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: the absurdity of the timeline that I just gave you.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I of course direct message, Michaelson said, Alex, is it
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: really true you didn't push back on this, And to
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Michaelson's credit, he responded, I should have with Wasserman, but
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: it was the last thing in the show and I
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: was literally out of time with a hard out. I
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have brought it up at all, but I
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't getting good Q times all right, Okay, I mean
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I think Alex is a good faith actor, who the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: hell knows. But the reality is that this LA supervisor
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: was able to connect on CNN, this Casey Wasserman to
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell as a sex trafficker without any knowledge or
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: pushback for the audience on the timeline of this event.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm using this because this is not an example
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: that is an aberration. This is part for the course. Now,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the Wasserman story is being duplicated all over the place.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Peter Attia, who for about fifteen minutes was the hot
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: new doctor on CBS sixty minutes, fell in love with him.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: He's all over the Epstein files and making some rather
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: rude comments about women to Epstein and talking about what
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: an amazing life Epstein lives. And now because he was
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: just hired as a contributor to CBS News, and because
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the knives are out for Bowie Weiss, now there's all
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: sorts of pressure for him to be fired from his
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: job at CBS. Now, I actually don't really like the guy.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: He feels like a little bit of a phony me
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a media creation. But I've seen
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: nothing in these emails that are remotely criminal. Okay, he
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: was buddies with Epstein and he liked women. Boy, that's
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: a shocker that a very rich, high profile guy like Epstein,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: who liked the company of good looking women and who
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: seemingly hired a lot of these women to be in
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: his company, would be popular with a lot of other
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: prominent men. That's a real shocker there. I mean, we
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: saw what happened with the co owner of the New
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: York Giants. I said to you, by the way, I said,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: if there's anything in these files that's real, I can
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: certainly see a scenario where Epstein is sharing prostitutes. I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: can totally see that. That makes total sense to me,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: because you've got a lot of rich men, most of
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: them are older and married, who still want to have
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: sex with hot women. Well, if you're in that case category,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: like the co owner of the New York Giants football team,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: then a prostitute, especially a Russian prostitute, is probably a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: really good option. You pay the money, they go away,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: They're never gonna fib on you. That's the best chance
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you have to get away with it. You know, nobody loses.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's an expert in this area. He's a buddy.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You ask him about it. Again, I'm not defending it.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: That's an issue for his wife, that's an issue for
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: his family whatever. By the way, there's no evidence that
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: that actually transpired, but there was certainly, you know, there
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: is an indication that that was certainly within the realm
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: of possibility. That's a lead, that's certainly an indication that
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: stuff like that could have happened, which I told you
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: was very very likely. I guess technically there would be
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a crime in that, but that's not what we were sold.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: We were sold sex trafficking with underage girls. Not a
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: shred of evidence of that. By the way, back to
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Barry Weiss, this whole Peter Attia thing, they're part of
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: why they're going after him is because they want to
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: force Barry Weiss into doing something that she doesn't like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: to do, which is cancel culture. And oh, by the way,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Barry Weiss's wife is all over the Epstein files, so
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: they're using that as a weapon to go after her.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: And all of this is almost entirely based in bullshit. Again,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: is some of it scandalous. Does some of it appear
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to be based in some theoretical reality that in most
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: cases can't be proven because Epstein is dead. Yes, but
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: it's not consistent with the narrative we were sold and
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the one on which all of this hysteria was based.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: It's a completely new standard. They've completely moved the goalposts
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: because they don't want to admit they were duped. They
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: were badly duped by what this story was all about.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: It spun completely out of control because Epstein killed himself
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: in a federal prison and people didn't want to accept that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: And of course, he killed himself in a federal prison
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: while Donald Trump was president, and so much of this,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: especially in the left wing media, is all about trying
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: desperately to finally get Trump, finally get Trump. And I
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: told you from the moment of this story with the
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Epstein files being released, that this was a situation where
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I actually believed Donald Trump had his finger on the
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: pulse of reality more than anybody else I had heard.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And people had a hard time understanding that because I
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: don't like Trump, and I don't believe Trump is trustworthy,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and I don't think you know that that Trump is
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: necessarily a moral person. I think he's more than capable
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: of immorality. And obviously everyone knows that Trump likes beautiful women,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: so I get why people have a problem with that.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: But my view on this was Trump understands this story.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: He knew Epstein very well, he knew Maxwell very well.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: He knows being falsely accused of things in this realm.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: The eg and Carroll story, I think is paramount understanding
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Trump's perspective on all this. I believe Egen Carroll totally
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: made up that allegation then ended up having a civil
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: jury rule in her favor against Donald Trump, And so
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I think Trump understood that what was in these files
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: was mostly bullshit, especially with regard to him. Because the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: number one thing you have to understand about these files,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: and this is such an important part of the perfect storm.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Once it becomes this idea of there it's the Epstein files,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: and this is information that we're not allowed to have
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: or we've been kept from seeing, it takes on a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: mythological quality, a magical quality. People inherently want what they
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: can't have, and if they're if it's being hidden from them,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: they think there must be some value in it. So
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: everything that's in the so called Epstein files becomes magical
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: and takes on way, way, way more exponentially more power
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: than it should when it's exactly the opposite, because what
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files really is, especially after he kills himself,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: and this becomes such a massive public story. And remember
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: that's twenty nineteen. So what's happening in twenty nineteen. Donald
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Trump is President of the United States, getting ready to
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: run for reelection. Half the country hates his fucking guts,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: and they're all sorts of rumors about was Epstein killed
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and if he was killed in the federal prison, there
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: must have been a really good reason, and is he
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: was he killed because he was We're gonna give dirt
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: on all these very powerful people, and of course Trump
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: is president, so at that point you're gonna get all
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: sorts of crazy, absolutely lunicic driven stories that get called
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: in or written in about Donald Trump. This happens in
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: every high profile case like this. Effectively, this becomes in
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: some ways the O. J. Simpson case. I guarantee you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: if there was an OJ Simpson file, which I'm sure
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: there is, that got released to the public, we would
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: see thousands and thousands of absolutely batshit crazy theories and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: claims by people to have information about what really happened.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: That's what inspired here. And because Trump is president and
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: he's running for reelection, you put that on steroids. There
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: are tens and tens of thousands of totally insane people
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: out there that want to be part or even think
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: they're part of major news stories, especially when someone is
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: as controversial as Donald Trump. And sure enough, within these
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: files there is a whole bunch of absolutely absurd, ridiculous
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: You can't even claim that these are fantastical allegations. They're
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: just made up totally obvious bullshit about Donald Trump. And
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: if you don't understand that, you're an imbecile. And apparently
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Congressman ted Low from California is either an imbecile or
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: maybe worse, and I'm not sure which is worse. He
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't care that he's promoting obvious lies because he wants
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to be able to carry the banner for the Trump
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: got implicated in the Epstein files narrative, and he held
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: a press conference where he detailed what's in the Epstein
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: files regarding Donald Trump, and somehow, with a straight face,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: was willing and able to claim or at least imply
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: that he believes what's in the Epstein files about Donald Trump,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: even though anybody with half a brain, even without the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: context I just provide you, would know that these stories
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: are not are beyond not credible. They're just made up,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: total fucking bullshit. And here a US congressman, with the
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: media lopping it up, promotes these completely ridiculous allegations that
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: are nothing but garbage, and we're determined to be garbage
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: by the Department of Justice. Again, let's point out for
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the hundredth time Ted Lou's own party, the Democratic Party,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: controlled the DOJ for four fucking years during the Biden
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: administration and never said boo about any of this. So
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I guess he's implicating the Biden DOJ. But here was
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Ted Low and this will kill two birds with one stone,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: show you just how completely out of touch and duplicitus
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: a Democratic congressman is, as well as some of the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: quote unquote substance of the bullshit that's in the Epstein
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: files regarding Donald Trump.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: So why are Republicans so interested in Bill Hillary Clinton
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: is because they're trying to distract from the fact that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. Thousands and thousands
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: of times. In those files, there's highly disturbing allegations of
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: So I encourage your press to go look at these allegations.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm highly disturbed that Deputorian General tab Blanche just
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: got the law wrong. Yesterday he said essentially that it
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: is not a crime to party with Jeffrey Epstein. Well,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: that's actually not correct. If Jeffrey Epstein was human trafficking
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: miners for these sex parties and you show up and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: patronize the establishment at that party, yes you're guilty because
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: patronizing is part of the law of the federal sex
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: trafficking law. So General tab Blanz just got that wrong,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: which maybe explains why they aren't investigating all these folks,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: including Donald Trump. He needs to read the law and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: investigate these people. He also needs to resign.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Not that if you're not.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Knowing the law, but a massive not only screw up,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: but the biggest privacy violation in history. They release a
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: lot of pictures of miners unredacted. Just violated the privacy
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: of these girls. It is uncalled for what they did.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: The one thing that they could not do under this
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: law was to invade the privacy of these women now
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: who were girls at the time, who were victims of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: sex trafficking. Also, he met with Glaie Maswell, Maxwell moved
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: her to a miniscurity prison, and then got a puppy
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: for her. So for all those reasons, he's just got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: to leave the Department of Justice.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Complete absurdity. If you believe any of that, then I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: can't help you. You're an imbecile. You've lost touch with reality.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: And what really bothers me about this is okay, And
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: maybe some people, I'd like to be optimistics, maybe some
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: people did have this take on it, but certainly Ted
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: lou didn't, at least not publicly, and a lot of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the media hasn't, especially on the left wing. The absurdity
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: of the allegations against Trump should actually discredit all of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: what's in the Epstein files, because if this, if we
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: know this to not be true, if we know this
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: to be complete fantasy, total absurdity, then how does it
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: not discredit not just everything against Trump in the Epstein files,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: but everything in the files to begin with. It's not
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: directly from or to Epstein himself. I mean, if you
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: use logic, that would be the case. By the way,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: if you use logic, the fact that that's been released
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: as part of the Epstein files is an incredibly important
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: data point. Why because in a rational world it should
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: destroy this very popular notion that, well, maybe Trump wasn't
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: implicated uh directly incredible stories, but those were redacted by
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the Trump DOJ. Oh really, how does that make any
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: fucking sense? So you're telling me that whoever was in
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: charge of redactions decided that some of the crazy stories
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: that Ted Lue just talked about they should be allowed
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: into the public domain in a very toxic environment where
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: the media is gonna go crazy over it. So somebody
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: at the Trump DOJ decided, Yeah, that's a good idea,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: let's not redact that. The boss is really gonna love that.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: But no, but but this more credible story, that's the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: one we're gonna actually redact. Really, really, is that an
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: all consistent with what you know about the way Donald
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Trump works or the way people around him and work
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: for him think that he works. No, the fact that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: those crazy stories were not redacted, and that Trump's name
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: was not redacted from them should blow apart the essence
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: of the last bastion of this conspiracy theory, which is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: that we're just not going to get the real truth
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: because it's been redacted because they're trying to protect Trump.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: If they were trying to protect Trump, how the fuck
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: did those crazy stories get in there. It's absurd, but
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: we've always known it was absurd for three very key reasons.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: One have already stated the Biden DOJ would have been
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: all over this. The federal government indicted Donald Trump twice
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty four election campaign. Why the fuck
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: would they just sit on this if it was if
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: there was anything based in reality, they didn't even leak
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: any of this because if they looked at it, they
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: knew it was complete bullshit and it was getting all
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: sorts of publicity. I'm sure somebody looked at what they
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: had in the Epstein files. He was run for president
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: of the United States. There's no chance that Biden DOJ
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: would have sat on that. And I've actually heard, you know,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: David Schuster, my good friend John Yarmouth, former Democratic congressmen,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: have said the same things to me that Merrick Garland
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: was just that incompetent, really, really, really, that's what you're
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: gonna go with. The Biden d OJ was just that
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: incompetent that they had evidence that the President United States
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: running for reelection engaged in horrific crimes against children, and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: we're just not gonna do anything about it. We're not
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: even gonna leak that, We're not even gonna make it
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: an issue. Completely ridiculous, absurd. That's number one. Number two,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: had Donald Trump been involved in any sort of remotely
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: criminal activity involving Jeffrey Epstein, we would have heard about it.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Because we have this thing called the civil trial system.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: People can sue anybody they won as long as they
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: get a lawyer, and getting a lawyer in this case
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: would be the easiest fucking thing in the world. Donald
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Trump has never been sued for his involvement in the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Epstein story, despite the fact that there would be massive
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: amounts of publicity and potentially money for anyone who was
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: involved in an effort to sue Donald Trump, it didn't happen.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Not to mention, not one survivor quote unquote of Jeffrey
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Epstein has ever said anything negative about Donald Trump. Even
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Virginia Geoffrey, who killed herself it was Prince Andrew's accuser,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: and she thinks everybody abused her except Donald Trump, and
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: she worked at mar A Lago. So I mean, there's
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: just no evidence when there should be massive amounts of evidence.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: There should be lawsuits all over the place because everyone
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: who knows everyone knows who Donald Trump is. Everyone knows
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: he's super rich. Obviously once he becomes president, it's political,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: the radioactive or nuclear charged, and every lawyer in the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: world's gonna want to represent you. And yet nothing, So
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the Biden boj does nothing, No lawsuits against Trump. And then,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to me, the ultimate proof that Trump could never have
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: been significantly implicated in any of this was the fact
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself in a federal prison. I know,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I keep going back to this, and this was the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: source of where investigative reporter Michael Tracy, who's done a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: lot of good work on the Epstein case from the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: standpoint of trying to bring some rationality to what really
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: transpired here. But he and I got into it on
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: this podcast because Michael Tracy was unwilling to conclude that
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Epstein actually killed himself, and that drove me crazy. One
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: because it's absurd he clearly killed himself, but also because
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: him killing himself is at the heart of the whole story.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Only way you get to a conspiracy is if he
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: was murdered in prison. I've said many times. If Epstein
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: was murdered in a federal prison and somehow that was
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: covered up, then obviously epso facto, there is all sorts
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: of possibilities with regard to a grand conspiracy. What would
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: motivate that? How would people get away with that? That
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: has to be a really strong reason for someone like
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Epstein to be murdered in a federal prison. Trump would
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: have to be implicated in at least some way, or
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: at least his attorney general, who ran the federal prison
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: system at the time, Bill Barr, would have to be
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: implicated in the cover up. So that would open up
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: a flood of legitimate questions. But that's not what happened.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: He killed himself. And why does him killing himself destroy
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: any semblance of logic for Trump being implicated in a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: serious way in the Epstein saga. Because Epstein was an
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: incredibly smart guy. He was very machiavellian. He understood the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: system exceedingly well. The last thing that Jeffrey Epstein would
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: do if he was in a federal prison and had
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: all these connections to very powerful and rich people, which
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: is his messages indicate he still did is kill himself
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: if he had blackmail information on the fucking president of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: the United States of America. If Epstein had anything on Trump,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: he never would have killed himself because there would be
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: not just a little bit of hope, there would be
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of hope. You only kill yourself when you're
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: out of hope, and when you have blackmail information, when
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: you're in a when you're facing federal charges again, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: you have the blackmail information the president of the United States,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: especially someone is easily manipulated as Donald Trump, one who's
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: running for reelection, You're not going to kill yourself. So
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Epstein killing himself destroys, destroys so many of these crazy theories,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: but most specifically destroys any semblance of rationality surrounding the
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: allegations against Trump. And you know my sense, and I've
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: said this consistently, is Trump understands this story better than anybody.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean I approve of all of his statements.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: I actually think he could have done a better job
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: of explaining why he thinks that the Epstein story is
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: quote unquote a hoax. I think he's been afraid to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: tell the real truth of this story. I think he
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: knows that what I'm saying is true. I think if
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and I got together in private, we would
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: have a very interesting conversation about the Epstein case, and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: he would be almost exactly on the same page, if
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: not word for word. But I think Trump is actually
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: afraid to be totally outspoken about it and say what
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: really transpired, because I think he knows he's smart enough
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: to understand that that's just not going to be accepted
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: by the media, and certainly not even by large portions
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: of the public, because they've all bought into a mythology.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: And Trump was asked by Caitlin Collins of CNN about
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: what he would say to the survivors, and I'm sure
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: that word did not hit well with Trump, because I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: think Trump knows that the Epstein survivors, not all of them,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: but many of them are former adult prostitutes who have
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: manipulated this situation for their own gain, whether that's in
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: money or attention, or excuses for why their lives didn't
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: work out, or all of the above, and that they
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: were never quote unquote abused, that they were actually light
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: thrilled to be paid a lot of money by Jeffrey Epstein,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: many of whom said very very very nice things about
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein well well into this story, well after they
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: had supposedly been abused by Jeffrey Epstein. And so that's
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: my sense of Trump, and that's I provide that context.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Because Trump went off on Caitlyn Collins here, I wish
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: he would have been more substantive about it. Instead, he
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: went to the old you know, CNN sucks, You suck,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: you're not telling the truth. The media sucks, but I
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: think it's worthy of at least playing. So here was
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: what happened when Caitlyn Collins questioned President Trump about the
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: latest and presumably final release of the Epstein files. What
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: did you say? You have a worst reporter, no one
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: to see Shena has no ratings because of people like you.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: You know, she's a young woman. I don't think I've
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: ever seen you smile. I've known you for ten years.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever seen a smile on.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: You know why he's not smiling because you know, you're
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: not telling the truth and you're a very disarnest organization.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: And they should be ashamed of you. Now, while Trump,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, decided not to be substantive and instead
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: decided to lash out at Caitlyn Collins and CNN in
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: a way that I didn't think was particularly effective, I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: want to give kudos to Todd Blanche, who is the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Deputy Attorney General and who was the one who held
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: a press conference after the release of the Epstein files.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: And while it's only February, early February of twenty twenty six,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: this clip right now is the leader in the clubhouse
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: for my favorite of twenty twenty six because Todd Blanche.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate that Todd Blanche is the former personal
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: attorney for Donald Trump, because it kind of destroys, at
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: least in perception, his credibility on this issue. But in
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: my view, Todd Blanche is a very smart guy. And
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: it's also important to point out he's the one that
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: interviewed Glainne Maxwell for quite a long time last year
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: in a federal prison. And I'm of the belief that
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Glaine Maxwell got railroaded in the midst of this perfect storm,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: this moral panic in the aftermath of Epstein killing himself
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: and all the rumors about him supposedly been being murdered,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: and I think Todd Blanche, like Donald Trump, knows the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: real truth of this, but doesn't want to say it clearly.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: And part of the beauty of this clip, this is
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: one of those rare situations where I really, really wish
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: we did a video podcast instead of an audio podcast,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: is seeing the expression on Todd Blanche's face at a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: press conference where he's asked by a male reporter. I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: don't know who this reporter is. It's a young person,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: this male reporter, who has clearly bought in hook line
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and sinker to this. What I refer to is Santa
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Claus narrative, this assumption that well, we already knew that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: there were lots of powerful and rich people who were
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: part of this list that engaged in this massive conspiracy
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: to abuse in rape young girls, and why the hell
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: haven't we been given that information yet? And Todd Blanche again,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: the expression on his face is like that of a
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: teacher who has just been asked the dumbest question ever
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: by a student that didn't do their homework. But he's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: trying to be as patient as possible with the student,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: and he lays out I thinking about as good a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: way as you possibly can given the political and mediate
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: realities of this story, the truth of the matter, which
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: is effectively, guys, there's no evidence for that narrative and
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: that assumption on which you have built this entire mythology.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Those are my words, not Blanche's words. But he does
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: a really good job, in my opinion, especially if you
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: see his facial expressions responding to this classic question. I mean,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: put this in the Museum of Media malpractice or the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Death of journalism when that museum eventually gets created, hopefully
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: one day, because this is a classic situation where the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: clueless media comes in with the question on which they
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: based this entire mythological narrative, and Blanche really would have
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: none of it. And here's how he responded.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: You said, this is the end of the Epstein of
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: your review at the Epstein files, So just to clarify,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: or is the public going to learn the identities of
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: the men who abuse the girls with the information that
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: you're releasing and if not, why not?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: And then I have a quick follow up, and.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: You just baked in an assumption into your question that
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: I have never said and I don't know to be true.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: Is the public going to learn about men that abuse
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: these girls, Like, what does that mean? I don't understand
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: what that means.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're the men who abuse the young
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: women through Epstein's through.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: We said in July, and it remains as true today
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: as it was in July. If we had information we
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: meeting the Department of Justice about men who abused women,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: we would we would, we would prosecute them. Right, we
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: talked about the work that we're doing. That's why I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: said that there's I said this earlier. There's this built
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: in assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche of information
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: of men that we know about that we're covering up,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: or that we're not we're choosing not to prosecute.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: That is not the case.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know whether there are men out there that
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: abuse these women. If if we learn about information and
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: evidence that that allows us to prosecute them, you better
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: believe we will. But but I don't think that that
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: that the public or you all are going to uncover
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: men within the Epstein files that abused women.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, let me translate what Blanche was really saying. What
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: he was really saying is this, guys, Look, we had
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: reports of Santa Claus providing gifts throughout the world in
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: one night, which didn't seem like it made a lot
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: of sense to us, but we investigated it fully, and
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: here's what we did. We went to the North Pole
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: and we ransacked this complex on the North Pole. You
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: might think of the North Pole as Epstein's Island, right.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: We went to the North Pole and we ransacked this place.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I mean we went through it thoroughly. We got all
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: the laptops, all of the electronic information. I mean, we
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: did a huge deep dive on this. You wouldn't believe
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: the level of investing gation that we did. And when
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: we ransacked North Pole, here's what we found. We found
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: no els, no signs of any elves. There was no
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: toy making operation. There were a couple of reindeer, but
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: there didn't appear to be an organized reindeer training situation,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: and none of the reindeer could fly. Were We made
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: it very very clear, we investigated this thoroughly. We could
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: not find any reindeer who flew, and as far as
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Santa was concerned, we did find a guy who was
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: named Santa Claus, but it appears to us as if
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: he really didn't have all that much to do with
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: any of this. It feels like there was a lot
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: of mythology surrounding him. So, yeah, we we got Santa,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: but there doesn't appear to be anybody else that was
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: involved in this operation that has been greatly exaggerated. I
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: think you know where I'm going with this. I mean,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty decent analogy for what's really
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: transpired here. The media and the public bought into a
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Santa Claus narrative and they do not want to give
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: it up. And the media knows that there's a built
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: in audience for the Santa Claus narrative. So now we're
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: just going to change all the rules. We're going to
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: move the goalpost dramatically. We're going to destroy lots of
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: innocent people. It doesn't matter because we've got to give
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: the audience what they want, because we can't admit that
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: we were duped. Santa Claus still exists, folks. Santa Claus
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: still exists in this story of Jeffrey Epstein, despite the
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: fact that if it really did exist, if there really
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: was a toy making operation, if there really were elves
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: and flying rained here in a magic sleigh at this point,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: we would have massive amounts of evidence of it massive.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Instead we have nothing, not virtually nothing. But that's not
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: going to stop the media from trying to give the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: audience what they want. My favorite made up narrative is
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: that now we've got to come up with some explanation
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: for why, you know, all this could have happened. And
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: so now the Daily Mail, which is like a third
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: rate media outlet, is trying to promote this narrative to
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: great success. From a clique perspective, that Epstein was a
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Russian agent, no longer massade. I guess he's a Russian
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: agent because I guess there were Russian prostitutes involved, and
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: it's somehow you know Putin was involved, and that this
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: would explain everything based upon nothing, based upon anonymous intelligence
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: sources saying they believe that's it, I mean, just total horsecrap,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: but people eat it up. I've seen posts with this
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: theory with millions and millions of views, complete farce, total joke,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: total bs, nothing behind it, no logic. Again, if Fsteam
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: was a Russian spy, which I don't even know, or
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: an agent, I don't even know how that would explain
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: much of this story. But if that was the case,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: we would have so much evidence of that by this point,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: and the US government would have a massive incentive to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: disclose that. But instead nothing, not a zip zero. So,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: for hopefully the last time, although I doubt it will
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: be the last time, Here's what really happened. In a nutshell.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was a shyster, a very smart shyster. He
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: apparently was involved in a lot of financial frauds, smoking mirrors.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: He also got very lucky. According to The New York
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Times when they did a deep dive into his finances.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: He probably wasn't as rich as he was perceived as being,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: but he gave a lot of money to charity and
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of money to academic its, to is like Harvard,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: and so he was very very smart at being able
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: to ingratiate himself with the right people become part of
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: the club of the elites. He had charisma, he had intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: he had money, and he understood the way that the
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  Speaker 1: game worked. He also liked sex with young, beautiful women,
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  Speaker 1: and he hired a lot of prostitutes, some of which,
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  Speaker 1: maybe by design, maybe by accident, maybe somewhere in between,
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  Speaker 1: were under the age of consent. He pled guilty to that.
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  Speaker 1: He kept doing it and then he was charged again.
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  Speaker 1: He realized that jig was up. He didn't have blackmail
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  Speaker 1: information on any powerful people, especially not the President of
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  Speaker 1: United States, and depressed in prison, he killed himself. The
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  Speaker 1: evidence for that is now overwhelming. There's nothing in the
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  Speaker 1: files that goes against that narrative. Just like the Trump
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  Speaker 1: doj said, just like cash matel just like and Bongino,
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  Speaker 1: just like Pam Bondi all said he killed himself. The
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  Speaker 1: evidence of that could not be more overwhelming. But because
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  Speaker 1: he killed himself, that caused a moral panic. The Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: story was not a huge deal until he killed himself,
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  Speaker 1: but because people felt like he might have been murdered,
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  Speaker 1: and that rumor, especially in Maga circles, spun completely out
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  Speaker 1: of control even though Trump was president and it made
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  Speaker 1: no goddamn sense. But once that starts to become a thing,
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  Speaker 1: people need someone to pay for Epstein's crimes. Because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't pay for them he killed himself. So that's when
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  Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, who gets implicated by Virginia Geoffrey, who is
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  Speaker 1: a complete nut job has no credibility, made a false
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  Speaker 1: allegation against Alan Dershowitz that she was forced to recant
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  Speaker 1: on She wasn't even called at Glenne Maxwell's trial later
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  Speaker 1: on because the prosecutors didn't think that she was credible.
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  Speaker 1: She ends up years and years later, last year, faking
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  Speaker 1: being almost killed in a bus accident, and a month
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  Speaker 1: or two later she actually kills herself just before her
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  Speaker 1: book comes out. I mean, this woman has very very
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  Speaker 1: little credibility. But based upon that allegation, Prince Andrews stupidly
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  Speaker 1: does a BBC interview. He's ill prepared for it, he's
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  Speaker 1: over confident, he's a zoo animal out in the wild
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  Speaker 1: that's lost his survival instincts. He gets absolutely massacred. His brother,
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  Speaker 1: Prince Charles, pissed off because he's not king yet and
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  Speaker 1: jealous of him because he was Mom's favorite, throws him
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  Speaker 1: under the bus. The Royal family wants this story taken
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  Speaker 1: care of because the Queen's jubilee is coming up. They
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  Speaker 1: pay off Geoffrey's very high profile attorney, David Boys, who
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  Speaker 1: knows exactly what buttons to push with a vulnerable institution
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  Speaker 1: like the Royal family that gets perceived as a guilty
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  Speaker 1: plea on behalf of Andrew, so now the public thinks,
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  Speaker 1: my god, if Prince An Andrew was implicated, that means
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: all bets are off. This story is real. Maybe Epstein
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  Speaker 1: really was killed in prison. Glaimne Maxwell goes on trial
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of COVID, a complete and total sham trial.
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  Speaker 1: Only a handful of wetnesses under extremely dubious circumstances testify
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  Speaker 1: to a story that doesn't even make a lot of
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  Speaker 1: sense from a due process perspective. The whole thing was
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  Speaker 1: a joke. She gets convicted, and now we have Andrew
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  Speaker 1: in the minds of the media and the public, guilty,
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  Speaker 1: Glaimne Maxwell guilty by this sham trial. And now all
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the story has spun completely and totally
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  Speaker 1: out of control. It becomes a mythology, It becomes too
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  Speaker 1: big to fail. When we have this demand for the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Epstein files, all this garbage comes out, and these mostly
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  Speaker 1: if not totally innocent people are being destroyed by it,
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  Speaker 1: and the truth has been lost. There's no semblance of
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  Speaker 1: truth in any of this. And I'm not the fading Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not defending anybody in this. I'm just trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out what the truth is and I'm asking for
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  Speaker 1: some remote semblance of rationality and for the witch hunt
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  Speaker 1: to stop. But of course it's not going to I
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  Speaker 1: told you it wouldn't because nobody wants to admit that
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: they were duped. It is far easier to dupe someone
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: that than to convince them that they have been duped.
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