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1994's Dumb and Dumber · Off The Shelf With Phil and Dave- A Movie Review Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to Off the Shelf with Phil and Dave, the
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  movie talk show where each week Alice takes a movie off our
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  shelf and presents it to the other four discussion This week
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  we've got coming off of Daves shelf 1994's Dumb and Dumber,
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  written and directed by Peter and Bobby Farrelly.
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  Possibly related, I believe so. Dave, why is this movie on your?
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  Shelf. Actually, Phillip, this movie
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  isn't on my shelf. I was unable to locate it.
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  Wow. It was on my shelf so still
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  qualifies for the show. I don't know what kind of
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  credulity we're stretching with this, but I don't know if.
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  Mom I. Used it one time in your life.
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  Was on a shelf somewhere. Come.
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  On it's feels like it was there OK, and that's good enough.
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  However, I do have the sequel. OK, dumb and Dumber.
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  Rule is that what it is and the cover art is very similar and
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  I've never watched it. Probably for the best.
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  I heard it's not great. It's one of those all the best
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  scenes in the trailer. I'm like, Oh yeah.
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  Because that's really. Funny.
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  And the trailer is less than two minutes.
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  Yeah. If that's the case, well, I'll
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  still watch it eventually. Yeah, you have no shame really.
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  Very little. You won't put good movies on
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  your shelf, but you'll watch this.
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  Stuff is crap, yeah. Question is, would I want to
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  report this on my shelf? That is the question.
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  And I honestly, why I'm bringing it off is because I thought the
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  apartment was a comedy. I thought, well, OK, I'll do
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  comedy too. Like 1 upping you.
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  Sticking it that wasn't my no, it's just no, I'm just trying to
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  fit in. Actually forgot it and been
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  awhile since we've done it. Jim Carrey.
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  I mean, this is I don't have to explain why I would have a Jim
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  Carrey movie on my shelf. I mean, I think
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  self-explanatory. Exactly.
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  So that's no big surprise. And that's about it.
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  There it is. Well, that's fantastic.
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  Let's find out what the IMDb has to say about this particular
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  movie. Yeah, See, they're able to
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  articulate it. Yeah.
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  Summarizes Read better than Lloyd.
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  It's fair. After a woman leaves a briefcase
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  at an airport terminal, a dumb limo driver and his Dumber
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  friend set out on hilarious cross country road trip to Aspen
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  to return it. Here's a question that that legs
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  is hairy, smarter or Dumber than Lloyd.
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  Who is the dumb and who is the Dumber?
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  That is a dumb seesaw. That's what that cause I'm back
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  and forth sure. I mean, Lloyd can't read.
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  That is true. Harry can.
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  So if you want to go on that basis alone, I give it to Harry.
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  Yeah. But there are some moments would
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  say, you know what? No, Lloyd is the more
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  intellectual one of the two, and I use that word quite loosely.
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  Yes, yes, you'd have. To that would be an interesting
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  debate I never actually thought about.
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  That that's what the MTV brings to the.
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  Table it does cause finally debate, you know, maybe at the
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  end will reveal what we think if we record Yeah, if we remember.
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  If we remember, probably not. Probably not so.
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  We'll take. Maybe the audience at the end
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  can rate us. Yes, well, we don't want that.
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  Which ones more dumb now? Have you seen this movie before?
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  Oh yes, my man. OK, well.
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  I don't know with. You 94?
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  Yeah, Come on. I don't know what you're doing
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  in 94. I'm watching this.
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  Well, you know I peaked. If you recall. 94 Yeah, this is
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  after Ace Ventura, that I know. Yeah, 94 was the year for Jim.
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  Carrey. Yeah.
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  He was a busy boy. Yeah, yeah, Mask was out by now.
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  Yeah, pretty sure this is the third one.
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  I this I believe is the third of the trilogy in 94.
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  I want to say he got them all. He got in cheap.
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  The studio just signed him and like, OK, we're doing this
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  feature is a monster hit. Yeah, Mask is a monster hit, and
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  this is a monster hit. So it's a couple of years from
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  now. He's getting paid, you know, $15
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  million or whatever for the cable guy.
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  That's why he's cheap. Yeah, I don't even know if it
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  was conscious because the movies all came out the same year, but
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  that means they're all shot the same year too.
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  So nobody knew that Ace Ventura was going to be the thing.
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  He just was a hot comedy property.
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  But holy God, this guy was a game changer.
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  So in hindsight, roll my eyes at something like Ace Ventura.
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  We did it on the podcast. It's not good.
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  Movie I think it is. But there is enough hilarity in
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  that and the introduction of Who is this guy?
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  That carries over throughout. And I think ultimately the
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  three, this is my favorite of them.
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  Ohe interesting, saves me asking you.
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  But I don't need a sequel to any of these movies.
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  Frankly, they got him, but I didn't want.
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  Them. Is there a mask too?
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  Well, there was technically he was Mask.
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  Yeah, he wasn't Kennedy. Yeah.
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  So that was a huge. Kennedy, Jamie.
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  Kennedy Project. Isn't that a thing?
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  I believe so. Yeah.
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  So for me, this movie in 94 was the top.
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  So I just thought this is hilarious.
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  Bees. Knees, everything about it.
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  I laughed at Jim Carrey and he's been true.
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  We talked about it. Everybody's kind of mimicking
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  and quoting. You were taking that accent or
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  that that affectation on The Voice.
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  Absolutely. I didn't do that with that movie
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  and didn't really do it with this because he's not that same
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  type of character. Obviously he's got range, but
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  the funny stuff in this movie was at the time for me, I think,
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  the funniest stuff I've ever. Seen.
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  So this type of comedy, it's not just one type, it branches out,
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  but they're all your cup of tea. Back in 94100%, you've grown
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  well. I just think I think anybody
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  that watched this movie at 15 and watch it again at 45 is
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  probably not all that interested in some of the humor.
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  I think this movie that we've done recently, not a comedy per
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  se, but in the last year where I really changed my tune was
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  Varsity Blues. Sure.
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  Like why am I watching this crap?
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  Like everything about it. I don't know if I was having a
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  bad day. I just did not like it.
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  But in 98 was. Yeah, like I had the soundtrack
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  of the movie speaking, which had it for this.
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  Great soundtrack. I absolutely have.
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  That's definitely in the notes. Yeah.
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  My favorite soundtracks of the year.
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  I like Crash Test Dummies course.
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  Pretty solid group. Peter Pumpkinhead and Yeah, and.
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  That's it, yeah. It's got a Pete Droge song.
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  Who my love? If you don't love me, I'll kill
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  myself. Not unlike last week's movie of
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  just a great soundtrack. Yeah, which I didn't.
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  Really need it cause I had the. Actual crash test dummies CD so
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  I kinda doubled the coffee spoon, double dipped a bit
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  there. So great stuff, great Canadian
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  band. They are Canadian, right?
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  What's your experience with the Fairly Brothers, if any?
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  Not gonna jump the. Gun.
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  You know, they're an interesting story to me because this is, to
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  me, their best movie. This is the first one.
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  I'm sorry it's not their best movie.
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  The next one they did was there Something about Mary Oh, which I
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  think is actually a funnier movie and a better.
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  Movie which is funny because Mrs. Newbern.
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  Is Magda, she's in all other movies That that makes sense.
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  I recognize. I don't know if this is their
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  first one, maybe maybe first big hit, certainly their biggest hit
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  at the time. But yeah, Mary was to me a
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  better movie. And.
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  Agreed it was good. But I never liked Kingpin.
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  People love that movie. I hate it, me and myself and
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  Irene. I really.
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  Hated. I think that's one of my least
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  favorite Cary. Movies bad to me anyway.
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  And then I don't remember much else, but this guy Peter won an
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  Oscar. That's odd for.
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  Well, you've won it for green. Book.
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  Green Book. It's a disastrous garbage movie.
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  Then, but he won what for it Best picture and.
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  Best writing and like, yeah, that.
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  He would work. Terrible movie, but it won.
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  It beat Black Klansman in a funny little call back to 1989
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  Oscars. Driving Miss Daisy beats do the
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  right thing Anyway, so it's a bad movie.
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  And these guys, they never really, to me, kind of captured
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  it. They peaked a couple years later
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  with Mary. And then I don't think they ever
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  really did much to me that really touched me for that.
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  But there is no denying that this movie and Mary are two of
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  the funniest movies, certainly at the time that I'd ever
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  watched. So it's safe to say, because
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  obviously Kerry's not into something about Mary, that they
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  don't need him to carry the film.
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  They're able to carry it with the likes of Matt Dillon, yes.
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  Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Now Ben Stiller. Oh yeah, Matt Dillon still is
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  that movie to me. But yeah, he's funny, fantastic
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  and we love. But Stiller at that time was
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  really in my wheelhouse as well for what Disaster was around
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  that time. Like he was just a guy that I
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  was like, I like this guy's vibe.
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  That family just was the funny vibe in them that that ability
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  and obviously he's Cameron Diaz has.
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  Yeah, she was in the mask, incidentally.
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  So selective tissue there just for the shit of it.
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  So, you know, this movie, it hasn't necessarily grown super
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  well. I would say like some of the
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  jokes fall a little flat to me and we can kind of get into some
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  of them over the time. But fundamentally, this movie is
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  still really, really funny. And that is not easy to say
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  about some of this 30 years ago, because some of the humor is
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  just like anything, it doesn't grow, right.
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  The apartment in 1960 might have been the funniest movie of the
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  year, but it's not funny. But it's not funny now, whatever
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  that is. It's not funny now, right?
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  And so the romantic comedy tropes of that aren't as
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  interesting 30 years later. And so this one I find the joke,
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  some of them not so great, but the stuff that works works so
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  well that it's really works for. Me.
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  Well, I'm curious to find out what your funniest piece is of
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  this film. Interesting.
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  Stay tuned. Let's get into the movie
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  Phillip. Boom Shaka Laka.
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  That's how you know you're in the movie.
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  Yeah, good title sequence. I guess, yeah, I mean nothing
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  special. No, not really.
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  Good song. It's OK, and the use of
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  misspelling the credits is kind of a joke.
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  But it's one thing because it comes up right away.
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  This is our hook scene. Entree to what?
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  Maybe what type of comedy we're going to get into is the limo,
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  yes. Not driver at this.
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  Point. We don't know it pulls.
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  Up fooled me to this Austrian woman and he does the I thought
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  Austria was Australia joke and they do geography jokes about
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  three times in this movie. This is the first one obviously.
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  Does this hook still work for you?
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  No. Did it ever work?
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  For you. Did you ever find it that funny?
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  No. I thought that's actually one of
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  the easiest jokes the whole movie.
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  Yeah. Shrimp on the Barbie.
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  Austria, Australia. I don't like the stereotypical
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  easy jokes. That's not clever to me.
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  Yeah, I mean, this was got a lot of clever stuff, Yeah.
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  And easy doesn't always mean bad.
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  Looking back and even in the moment thinking, well, this
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  feels simple. Well, I mean there are simple.
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  People, I guess so it just felt like, oh, but what a truthfully,
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  the thing that stands out to me is not that joke and was never
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  that joke. It was his playing of the window
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  going up and down that cause I was like, well this is Kerry,
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  right? Cause picture the movie is Jim
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  Carrey. That movie sucks if it's anyone
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  other than him. And I would have assumed then
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  that the same would be true here.
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  And so while the joke didn't matter to me, I didn't find it
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  funny or interesting or clever even.
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  But him getting kind of choked out by the window and the nose
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  and then crawling to the front, to the front and becoming the
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  driver. And that being the actual joke,
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  I was like, well, Kerry is still a force.
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  He is the joke. And if he can maintain that, I'm
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  going to like this movie. And that more or less holds true
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  still, even now. But that joke never really
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  delivered to me. I do find it clever from a film
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  matic perspective to have him and Harry cross paths in driving
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  the handover. Yeah, that makes.
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  That's a good name for that. Yeah.
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  It's what it's called in the business, sure.
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  If you remember Magnolia, we talked a lot about that because
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  it's a great tracking shot through the.
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  Television. We talked a lot about some
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  stuff. Don't remember the long episode.
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  Nice wheels, Shaggin wagon, and we get our introduction to Jeff
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  Daniels, who is a actor that intrigues me.
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  OK, we see him in small roles like in Looper, yeah, which is
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  not a nothing role, but but we love him in it.
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  I think we did just for that moment.
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  But I've seen him in TV and I've loved him in shows and series
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  that the Was he in the Western? No.
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  Small town. Yeah.
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  In the American rust. Yeah.
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  Yeah. I think the West.
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  In the West, maybe. Yeah.
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  Dark movie, very dark. Arachnophobia.
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  I don't even think I've seen. It on the list but it's coming
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  out. This year.
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  I don't know. He's just, he's everywhere.
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  He's been around for a long, long time.
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  You first thought of Jeff Daniels is not this.
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  For me it was OK because I didn't really recognize him from
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  many other things. In 1994, I had definitely seen
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  Arachnophobia and I loved him in it and he was funny in it
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  because it's pretty funny movie and.
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  But more of like a smart guy like not like a dumb.
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  Funny, dumb, but just like a funny guy.
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  So I don't know that I had any real baggage with him.
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  It wasn't until the years later that I was like, oh, you're in
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  terms of endearment, you're great.
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  You're married to them, you're great.
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  You're in The Newsroom. Many years later, you're on
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  television, you're in town right movies, but obviously the
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  Lookout and Looper and this and that.
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  So he became much bigger to me. If you would ask me in 94, he
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  introduction to this guy. Not he's not this guy in real
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  life, obviously, but just in terms of like, yeah, Jeff
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  Daniels equals Harry. I don't know why I don't feel
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  that way, because everything you named off I haven't seen.
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  Yeah, this is like the only movie you saw of him and for 30
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  years and yeah. But for some reason I felt like
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  this is a guy who's normally a serious actor playing a comedic
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  role, and I don't know where that stems from.
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  Couldn't tell you. I mean, it's true, but it is
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  maybe I'm just that smart. I remember there was a video or
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  like a, you know, we did some interview on some talk show or
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  whatever else we talked about that basically was like, they
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  knew that they had Jim Carrey in the bag and he was kind of an
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  afterthought cause he's gonna play second fiddle and he's
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  prone to, at that time, I didn't know this at the time, but doing
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  more dramatic roles and he was like, I could just lock into
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  that silliness. And to watch the same guy from
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  American Rust or whatever you're referencing and me The Newsroom
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  or whatever and see this performance, it's like, wow, Jim
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  Carrey, I expect it. Of course.
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  Like, yeah, this is a variation on silly faces, but Harry to me
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  kind of steals the movie for that reason.
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  He's doing something different. Which works.
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  Well, and the great ministry for sure they are.
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  Never worked together again though.
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  Well, they did. That was so much conviction.
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  Yeah, that really didn't know. What's funny is that they worked
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  together again in a movie called Dumb and Dumberer.
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  Oh that insides. Yeah shut up.
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  Anywho, yeah, I love his intro with him giving out the lunch
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  order to the docks. Sure, who's got the Yeah, the
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  footlong. Get your foot long and it's a
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  little little. It's really funny.
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  And the good dog acting like they're on cue.
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  Right. Yeah, Missing Frank.
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  What's his Fraser? What's that done?
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  Oh, Eddie. Eddie.
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  Yeah, he's busy 94. He's actually doing Frasier.
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  Maybe because Cheers ended in 93, I don't know how long it
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  was. Before, I think it was Asia,
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  was. Born.
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  So yeah, maybe he was, yeah, auditioning at the time.
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  But yeah, that's a great scene and and it pays off by the end
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  of the conversation. It's a great introduction to
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  these two people that are functional morons.
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  They have jobs, they're employed, even if obviously
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  changes. But even if you're an idiot, you
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  can get a job. As the take away is your look.
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  Yes, funny guy. Uh, one thing I still find funny
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  and it's very small and sometimes I think the more
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  subtle jokes is what I appreciate in movies, not the
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  big scenes, though I do still enjoy some of the the big ones,
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  but something as little as the mouth spray, the banaka and just
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  spraying it in the wrong direction.
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  And he's used Binaca before in Ace Ventura, or he said the
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  word. Biased.
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  Say the word, yeah. At the very least it just says
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  obliviousness to. Any was reaction as if he had
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  gotten it you know 2 squirts and.
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  OK, he tricks his mind. Tricks his mind.
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  At this moment he's picking up Mary Swanson, played by Future
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  Wife, Future Wife, wife. I think they were just together,
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  but either way. They had a kid together.
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  So did they? Yeah.
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  Gosh, pretty sure. Don't make me second guess
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  myself, I will. He was married before he.
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  Was. I will make a correction if I
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  need to, but I'm gonna stand by it for now.
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  Alright there. You go can't check it now I have
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  to come back in a couple. Of weeks.
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  What is a fact is that you are a love at first sight kind of guy.
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  I believe it for sure. Believe it anyways.
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  Yeah, 100% experienced. It so you felt this moment.
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  Then for sure, 100% also is Lauren fucking Holly.
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  So yeah, I felt it. She.
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  Is, I mean, not my type because of the hair colour, but even
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  with that fact I still found myself a little taken by She's
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  gorgeous. I make an exception.
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  Yeah, the redhead exception is in play.
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  He's definitely smitten anyway, though.
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  Have you been in the limo? I want to get this.
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  Out of the way here when I was 17.
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  Oh, prom, prom with my dear friend Sarah.
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  OK, how's she doing? She just got over cancer,
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  actually. Good.
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  Yeah, it's good in remission. That's a feat.
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  It's doing great. I've never been in a limo.
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  It's a missed opportunity you like, I'm OK with it.
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  I'm not like I. Could if you want it, I I'm.
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  Fine with it, but I don't feel like something missing in my.
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  Life, it was a bit of a waste of money at the time, but when
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  you're 17 prom, you're like, yeah, we're gonna spend a little
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  cash. You're gonna do it.
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  Do it right? I love small talk.
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  Actually, I don't hate it. The podcast proves it.
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  I remember being in high school, yeah, vaguely many decades ago,
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  and in drama class, I remember I had one line in this little show
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  that we did OK. And the line was I have worms.
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  Oh, wow. That was it.
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  Now, I don't know if I took that from this movie.
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  I mean, it's in completely different context, I would hope.
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  But it was my only line, and people loved it, really.
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  Just the way I delivered it. OK.
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  I'm in my bed. That's right.
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  Yeah. Dave here.
• 18:03
  But what I'm more like about this scene is when he's talking
• 18:06
  to her and not watching the road, Yes.
• 18:09
  And the impact that has from you just see the explosion in the
• 18:14
  back window like this is hilarious.
• 18:16
  It's just. Good comedy, yeah.
• 18:18
  She, I don't think is a particularly great actor.
• 18:20
  No. Good looking, gorgeous, gorgeous
• 18:23
  breath, but definitely. Not a tall order for her,
• 18:25
  though. In this movie, no.
• 18:26
  And she's not tall, actually. You know, outside of them,
• 18:28
  nobody's really good in this book.
• 18:30
  I think that's not not wrong. Yeah, like I'm talking from
• 18:32
  Terry Garr. Really.
• 18:35
  Rocket. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 18:38
  Thought maybe Mike Starr. Mike stars.
• 18:40
  Let's not throw shade to Everybody is playing it pretty
• 18:42
  big, pretty broad. Yeah.
• 18:44
  I think that scene is really funny.
• 18:45
  And also how he's talking. Statistically speaking, most
• 18:48
  people die on the way. And you're like, OK, so the
• 18:51
  contrast to that, it's just really smart writing and clever.
• 18:53
  And the way that those two work off each other, it's like, yeah,
• 18:56
  you can see some chemistry there for.
• 18:57
  Sure. Well enough enough for a little
• 19:00
  while, anyway. Wedding bells.
• 19:02
  But I think what caps off that scene with her is the goodbye.
• 19:07
  And this is just Jim Carrey. And that's just the type of
• 19:09
  company I like and the type of comedy I like to do.
• 19:12
  Physical comedy, physical combined with just something
• 19:14
  that's taking out of history that is serious.
• 19:17
  Like that line has been done. Like I hate goodbyes.
• 19:20
  People have said that in terms of endearment, I don't know, but
• 19:23
  something. But his version of it of just
• 19:26
  met this woman. It doesn't belong.
• 19:29
  Here, no. The finger on the mouth too.
• 19:30
  It's not subtle. It's not, it's not cute.
• 19:33
  It is like an abreast, like the face is getting mashed.
• 19:36
  It's that commitment to that moment that I appreciate that
• 19:40
  and I appreciate it doing it. And there's instances of that
• 19:43
  type of comedy later in this movie as well, because this
• 19:46
  dabbles with different types of comedy.
• 19:49
  Very paints. With such a broad brush you can
• 19:51
  really do so many types and different variations.
• 19:54
  Which can't hurt, because remember, if you recall, we did
• 19:57
  Liar. Liar.
• 19:57
  I hate. It so, yeah.
• 19:58
  And I didn't like it either, though his performances in some
• 20:01
  instances were good, but he's not a lawyer.
• 20:04
  Like he's just doing it for the sake of performance.
• 20:08
  Pet detective Makes sense to me. That's an idiot.
• 20:11
  Makes sense, yeah. He's committing himself.
• 20:13
  The character, yeah. And this points in this movie
• 20:15
  that maybe not so much, but ace, definitely.
• 20:17
  Yeah. But lawyer Liar.
• 20:19
  That's just. Yeah, you're just taking the
• 20:21
  crazy, wacky Jim Carrey and putting it into a different
• 20:24
  setting, and I think it doesn't work.
• 20:25
  And we've talked a lot about that over the years.
• 20:27
  This, I think, is right up his alley, obviously, and it's still
• 20:30
  that early formative stuff where he's willing to do it.
• 20:32
  I think he's retired more or less now.
• 20:34
  That's for me. He just wouldn't do this type of
• 20:36
  movie. He did it for money, I suppose,
• 20:39
  10 years ago or whatever it was. Phil, I got to bring this next
• 20:42
  point up because you worked at an airport.
• 20:44
  Yeah. OK, so this sticks out to me.
• 20:46
  Sure. Out of all your stories that
• 20:48
  I've listened to. He drops her off.
• 20:51
  She might love the plot of the movie, seemingly as she has a
• 20:55
  suitcase full of money because her husband's been kidnapped.
• 20:58
  We have Mike Starr and she Thug. OK, I'm going to call it.
• 21:03
  Sure. She's supposed to leave it by
• 21:05
  the escalator. First of all, it's not as close
• 21:08
  as escalator as it should. That is my biggest complaint.
• 21:11
  It's a complaint be is Mike Starr says to she thug.
• 21:16
  You pick up the suitcase. Yeah.
• 21:19
  And she says piece of cake. Yeah, it is.
• 21:23
  It's very simple. This is not a difficult.
• 21:26
  Task. I'm on it, yeah.
• 21:28
  But obviously the one that takes the cake is he conveniently is
• 21:32
  driving by this airport that has a lot of windows, which could be
• 21:35
  a thing. Very true, very true.
• 21:36
  Now, this is pre 9/11. Granted, that is the key factor
• 21:40
  right there, but they are through security at this point
• 21:42
  because they're going to the gates.
• 21:44
  I can't be through security. I thought the gates were past
• 21:46
  security. Gates A.
• 21:47
  Gates B you're. Maybe terminals, yeah, I mean
• 21:51
  gate A-26, yes, but you're in more terminal.
• 21:54
  Territory he gets all the way to the tarmac.
• 21:57
  Tarmac. See This is why I lent the the
• 22:00
  extra apron. So at that point he would have
• 22:02
  had to. Go through.
• 22:03
  Yeah, no, sorry, I'm saying that they collectively were not at
• 22:05
  the gate. He eventually gets to the yeah,
• 22:07
  that's a pre eleven thing, but. My point is, there's no way he
• 22:11
  gets there before she gets there.
• 22:14
  The sheath hug to that briefcase?
• 22:16
  Oh sure, from outside. There's five steps away and he.
• 22:20
  Is outside the airport with many areas to get through. 1st just
• 22:24
  has to get across just your door.
• 22:26
  But he's also dealing with the. Airbag problems.
• 22:28
  So I mean, there are a lot of things wrong with this scene,
• 22:30
  but it's not it's fault. He could have gotten into that
• 22:35
  bag without any hassle whatsoever.
• 22:37
  The timing of it absolutely doesn't work.
• 22:39
  Just saying other obstacles, walking through a door.
• 22:43
  But obviously it's really funny. I'm the limo driver.
• 22:46
  That's just funny stuff. And it's not the first time this
• 22:49
  has happened enough. Strange what we see next has
• 22:53
  happened last week we're in apartments apartments and they
• 22:57
  both lost their jobs. And not for the first time, this
• 23:00
  seems to be. This is one of my favorite
• 23:02
  moments of the whole. Movie.
• 23:03
  Interesting. I don't really have much of
• 23:05
  this. It's.
• 23:05
  Really just the reaction to, oh, well, you know, I lost my job to
• 23:09
  get fired. Yeah.
• 23:10
  Yeah. You know, they don't like it
• 23:11
  when you do this. And then.
• 23:12
  OK, OK. And then how about you, Harry?
• 23:14
  Well, I lost my job too. Well, you're a pathetic loser.
• 23:17
  I love that line. I've said it 1000 times since.
• 23:20
  It's the dynamic between these two.
• 23:22
  And it's actually goes to something that I think is maybe
• 23:24
  a larger point. We've talked in the past,
• 23:27
  certainly rounders in the town about toxic friendship, the OM
• 23:32
  and we're, you know, that's my boy from the back days.
• 23:34
  And we got to do this. What I found kind of refreshing,
• 23:36
  and maybe it's a weird take away, but the friendship that
• 23:39
  these two have is something we should all aspire to in a weird
• 23:43
  way. It's nothing but supportive.
• 23:46
  And when it isn't, you like that.
• 23:48
  When it's not, it's clearly for the laughs.
• 23:51
  Like Europe. Pathetic loser.
• 23:53
  That is a funny line and obviously not serious because
• 23:56
  they're both just got fired. So you're able to like, jab and
• 24:00
  RIP somebody. That's good friendship.
• 24:01
  Yeah, and every idea that either one of them have throughout the
• 24:04
  whole movie and we'll get to it is met with more often than not.
• 24:09
  Awesome. Let's do it.
• 24:10
  Now, I'm not sure who you'd want to put in charge of finances
• 24:15
  between these friends slash I think it's.
• 24:17
  Clear after this particular exchange that Lloyd is not your
• 24:20
  guy. Hey, go get some snacks and
• 24:23
  drinks and whatever. Essentials, essentials.
• 24:26
  And he's got a. Fireworks maybe, I don't know.
• 24:29
  What? He's fireworks?
• 24:29
  Got a bowl of bat? He's having a good time with the
• 24:31
  big cowboy hat. It's so silly, but it's funny to
• 24:34
  me. What is the least important
• 24:36
  thing to buy right now? Essential thing you could buy?
• 24:38
  And the insults, lady. Yes, well, useless drag on our
• 24:42
  economy. I mean not wrong.
• 24:45
  But the issue of this movie can have, and again, I don't have an
• 24:50
  issue with it really, but we have someone who's that dumb to
• 24:53
  say something somewhat intelligent.
• 24:55
  Sure can be a bit of an issue because we actually do get a
• 25:00
  serious scene 30 seconds later where Lloyd is fed up with this
• 25:06
  life. Yeah, they go and the mob kills
• 25:10
  the bird because they break into the house, right?
• 25:12
  They do the thing. How do they know?
• 25:13
  I guess they do the thing that that is an action.
• 25:16
  That's a sociopath. Snaps the neck of a good guy,
• 25:20
  Mike Starr. He's not presented to be.
• 25:21
  No, I suppose. So he's not like.
• 25:23
  He doesn't. He has an honor system though.
• 25:24
  You don't kill people you don't know.
• 25:26
  That's true. Kills birds no problem, no
• 25:27
  questions. But you gotta have a code.
• 25:29
  There you go it, Ace Ventura. There's the one moment I told
• 25:32
  you that I was like, oh, he's actually an actor, or at least
• 25:36
  is capable of emitting something other than just pure silliness.
• 25:40
  Yeah, when it comes to apologize here, he gets a couple of those
• 25:43
  moments and I thought he delivers them incredibly well.
• 25:46
  I don't disagree. It's beautiful.
• 25:49
  My question is can someone that dumb have that much emotional
• 25:53
  awareness or would he would just be frustrated?
• 25:56
  Now you, you tell me. This scene has always stood out
• 26:00
  for me, like, oh, he's just being completely somebody else
• 26:03
  in this moment. But it is nice and it's
• 26:05
  necessary to drive their motivation to get up and go and
• 26:10
  to get Harry on his side. Think OK, I'm going to be.
• 26:13
  That supportive friends and I think part of it is performative
• 26:18
  because it is only really to get Harry on board.
• 26:22
  It's self-serving. I want to go to Aspen because I
• 26:25
  just saw the girl I love and you know, all this other stuff and I
• 26:27
  got her suitcase and how best to get Harry on board.
• 26:32
  Oh, I know. I'll talk about our birds.
• 26:34
  Heads are falling off. Tired of being this and I'm
• 26:37
  tired of being nobody. Yeah, the first part I got
• 26:39
  because he's frustrated that. So whether that's true and he
• 26:42
  actually feels those things or not, I don't know, because I do
• 26:46
  feel there's a potential that it's just there so that he can
• 26:49
  convince Harry and it shined on. He's not that smart.
• 26:52
  Come on now, give him way too much credit for.
• 26:54
  Sure. Yeah, maybe what's great about
• 26:56
  the scene too, is, you know, like a good seed.
• 26:59
  Really going to do a garden this year.
• 27:01
  Oh wow. But they plant 1.
• 27:03
  Like Ray Walston and Star Trek. Exactly.
• 27:07
  Really inspired. Matt.
• 27:09
  Matt, Mike Starr has an ulcer problem.
• 27:13
  Yes. And they lay it on pretty thick.
• 27:15
  Yes. But it works out really well
• 27:17
  because they leave a note when they leave for the gas man.
• 27:21
  Yeah. It's like all.
• 27:21
  They must been following us for weeks.
• 27:23
  How do they know it got gas? That's clever.
• 27:25
  Yeah, this same scene. I know something for the very
• 27:27
  first time. They're leaving and there's a
• 27:29
  guy just pissing outside. I don't know why I noticed this
• 27:32
  for the first time. I don't know what it means.
• 27:34
  Is just a guy against the wall taking leak he didn't catch.
• 27:37
  That no, I didn't notice that at all.
• 27:39
  But I did notice that Kerry had an extra 25 bucks in his pocket.
• 27:43
  He bought some snacks already. Get that money something.
• 27:48
  Billy in Farsi? Yeah, What a forsee.
• 27:51
  What a weird name. I don't know why Billy in 4C.
• 27:55
  Oh my gosh, David what? He's Billy in 4C in the apt 4C.
• 28:02
  Wow, who's the dumb one now? I honestly thought he was
• 28:05
  referring to two people. Billy in 4C oht.
• 28:09
  Man, he's in four Season 4. See, that's looked at Billy in
• 28:12
  4C. That's embarrassing.
• 28:13
  Yeah, wow. Probably doesn't make it.
• 28:17
  Dumb I am. The blind kid in 4C gets.
• 28:23
  Pretty bird, pretty bird. Stupid.
• 28:26
  Not a very nice guy, but hey, you got to make the 25 bucks
• 28:30
  because you're going to have to eat on this long journey.
• 28:36
  And here I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Phillip, I typically
• 28:40
  typically am. This is the real big showcase
• 28:43
  moment. We're really trying to have a
• 28:45
  full scene of funny. There's nothing about this scene
• 28:47
  that isn't funny. You're right.
• 28:49
  First we have Hey Flow, a good reference to Alice doesn't Live
• 28:52
  Here Anymore. Well, see, I didn't get that.
• 28:54
  Oht Never. Mel's Diner.
• 28:55
  No, no. OK, well flow is a reference to
• 28:58
  that. They're giddy.
• 28:59
  They are giddy and has my second favorite line of the movie.
• 29:03
  What's the soup de jour? It's the soup of the day.
• 29:06
  She's not wrong sounds. Good.
• 29:08
  Yeah, that's. What a great exchange.
• 29:10
  Yeah, I've used that again, as the kids say, lives rent free in
• 29:13
  my house. I love that line, but sea bass
• 29:15
  is obviously. Sea bass.
• 29:16
  Yeah. How many times have I heard kick
• 29:18
  his ass sea bass? And why is Camilla in this
• 29:20
  movie? That's what I want to know.
• 29:21
  Why did he choose to be in this? Film.
• 29:23
  I think he's from Rhode Island. You're right, he is American
• 29:26
  because he always played for team so I say that is correct.
• 29:29
  Well, America is pretty big specific to Rhode Island, but
• 29:32
  yes, the film makers are from Rhode Island and I think that
• 29:35
  they have a connection to him that way.
• 29:37
  That's interesting character choice.
• 29:39
  Totally. It was, I think, still playing
• 29:41
  in 94. 94 Yeah, I think so. I'm not positive, but I'm not
• 29:45
  positive either. Check the NHL archives.
• 29:47
  Yeah, he was certainly past his prime.
• 29:50
  He's not peeking in 94. That's right.
• 29:53
  You crossed fifty. Goal scorer.
• 29:55
  Yeah, it was pretty, pretty big. Deal no cup, though.
• 29:57
  Never a cup? What happened to play for
• 29:58
  Boston? McDavid doesn't have a cup, So
• 30:00
  what do you say? Yeah, he's played like a third
• 30:02
  of the career that Camille had, but.
• 30:05
  Now this salt rule. Oh yeah, did they just get that
• 30:08
  wrong? I don't remember exactly what
• 30:09
  these superstitions are. I get them mixed.
• 30:11
  Up. It's definitely spilled.
• 30:12
  The salt is bad luck. For sure.
• 30:14
  OK, but what do you do over your shoulder?
• 30:16
  Is that where salt over your shoulder?
• 30:17
  But he just threw the whole shaker.
• 30:18
  That's the that's the OK got it. Wasn't sure where I fell into
• 30:22
  the how much I know versus how much Lloyd knows I don't want to
• 30:26
  be. Compared, we have to do a
• 30:27
  ranking and that's going to be a problem.
• 30:29
  And Lloyd has never averse to throwing him under the bus.
• 30:33
  His good friend Harry, he's a bit of a coward.
• 30:35
  That's the thing. But it's like in a playful way,
• 30:37
  which I really enjoy. Yeah, actually, this is probably
• 30:39
  the most toxic moment right here.
• 30:41
  Fair is leaving him to fend for himself against the great sea
• 30:44
  bass. Yes.
• 30:45
  Which is? I'd like to know where that
• 30:46
  nickname. Maybe it's his favorite meal.
• 30:48
  Sea bass. They had it in Jurassic Park, if
• 30:50
  you remember, with chili or chili in sea bass.
• 30:53
  We don't know. Yeah, that was a big loogie.
• 30:56
  Oh my gosh, so. Green Actually, they had a stunt
• 31:01
  lugey to do that doesn't it wasn't his real Dougie.
• 31:05
  Couldn't get all that mustered. Up he takes the burger away from
• 31:07
  him. Now we know.
• 31:08
  Harry isn't dumb enough to eat it.
• 31:11
  He does his delivery of. I thought, well, maybe I was
• 31:13
  going, no, you haven't, That's great.
• 31:15
  But a sea basket to eat that because he takes it.
• 31:18
  Would you eat your? Own.
• 31:19
  Not like that. Not like that.
• 31:21
  Little bit of spit. Sure it happens, but.
• 31:23
  Not you want to mix. If you've goofed it up like
• 31:25
  that, I'm taking a hard. Pass eat around it if it's
• 31:28
  centralized. Peter is incredible.
• 31:31
  I might find a way, but I wouldn't otherwise.
• 31:33
  Well, like a drastic park, they found a way.
• 31:39
  But Lloyd has a moment of pretty good intelligence here.
• 31:43
  This is a good move. I like, gosh, genius move.
• 31:45
  But right after that, Harry is praising him.
• 31:48
  Great move. I saw it in a movie, Lloyd says.
• 31:52
  And then he says how it turned out, like he slit his throat,
• 31:54
  like up the road. That's funny.
• 31:56
  That is one of my least favorite scenes in the movie, actually.
• 32:00
  Not really a little harsh. What I hate about it is it's
• 32:03
  akin to a line in Surviving Christmas where it's one of the
• 32:08
  few things I don't like about the movie, where at some point
• 32:11
  Affleck approaches Christina Applegate and says something
• 32:13
  about, oh, spoil the big secret, didn't you?
• 32:16
  That line doesn't get said unless it's to provoke the next
• 32:20
  response. And so for someone to say, oh,
• 32:23
  at the end of that movie, they probably got away Scott free,
• 32:27
  that is not a line that would follow that it would just end
• 32:30
  with I saw it in a movie once. Oh, how did it end?
• 32:32
  Maybe maybe you asked that question, but you wouldn't have
• 32:35
  said, oh, well, they probably got away Scott free and no harm,
• 32:38
  you know, like you're setting it up to be the opposite.
• 32:40
  And that feels lazy. That feels like an epic. 100%
• 32:44
  I'm fine with. It OK as long as you recognize.
• 32:46
  That I'm happy to to nitpick away, but the difference is I
• 32:48
  can say that and still like the movie.
• 32:50
  You would find that and maybe say I'm out off my.
• 32:54
  Shelf. Right then and there use for
• 32:55
  this movie. But anyway, so that is a line
• 32:59
  that I just think it's only there to set up the joke,
• 33:01
  whereas other ones feel far more organic.
• 33:12
  Harland Williams fan. No, except for this movie.
• 33:17
  OK, I loved him in this movie. I don't know who he was.
• 33:19
  I don't really know who he is after.
• 33:20
  It has no chin. Chin less, I think mostly stand
• 33:24
  up. OK, He's in with that crowd.
• 33:27
  Was he on SNL? No, not that crowd.
• 33:29
  Just different crowds. Just comedians.
• 33:32
  He's not a guy recognized at all.
• 33:34
  I just I loved him in this one role.
• 33:36
  I thought it was great. My question is, why don't you
• 33:40
  just pull over? There's no reason.
• 33:42
  Given, no, it's not like you're so pressed for time you won't
• 33:45
  get there, sure, but what's another minute?
• 33:47
  2 minutes, 3 minutes, whatever. But it does lend to a pretty
• 33:50
  funny scene. Do you?
• 33:51
  Like this type of comedy has to pee so badly and so much that he
• 33:56
  fills 5-6 bottles. Like the exaggeration style.
• 34:01
  Technically speaking, this is my big issue with Liar Liar and
• 34:03
  it's my big issue with Jim Carrey in general is the
• 34:06
  oversized nature of the jokes undermine the quality of the
• 34:12
  jokes. To me that is funny if it were
• 34:14
  two bottles or it's 3 tops at most.
• 34:17
  Right, But then it becomes unbelievable.
• 34:19
  The moment you go from 1 bottle to the second bottle.
• 34:22
  That's hilarious. That's funny that he's holding.
• 34:26
  5 Sure. It's like so extreme.
• 34:28
  It's so silly. But I don't like it hits that.
• 34:30
  Though no and it's unnecessary so I find it actually less funny
• 34:33
  the more it goes. 2 makes me laugh because you get the payoff
• 34:36
  of Oh my God, you got to give me another one Like Oh my God
• 34:40
  that's. Hilarious Hartland's reaction to
• 34:42
  like that. That, yeah, gets me, got me 30
• 34:45
  years ago, got me again. Interesting.
• 34:46
  Just really funny. It's a throwaway moment, too.
• 34:49
  Like, obviously it's important, but it's small.
• 34:51
  It makes me. Left.
• 34:53
  Has it ever happened to? You drink pee.
• 34:57
  Allegedly a party that I didn't go to, weren't invited to.
• 34:59
  I would say that I just wasn't cool and somebody had pissed in
• 35:04
  a bottle and put it in the fridge and somebody drank it.
• 35:07
  I don't know if it's true. I wasn't there.
• 35:10
  Did you know this is a? Little factoid about old Phil
• 35:13
  here. Your Co host that I would
• 35:15
  suggest that probably my least favorite word in the English
• 35:19
  language. Piss is piss.
• 35:21
  I hate every time I hear it. It's such a vulgar term to me.
• 35:24
  I'd rather somebody say cunt. Yeah, you have mentioned.
• 35:27
  This before then that. Word.
• 35:28
  Now I have to rate this episode. Thanks.
• 35:30
  You said that I do it anyway. Either here or any other word.
• 35:34
  So I wouldn't drink it. I wouldn't say it.
• 35:37
  If you had to do one of them though.
• 35:38
  That's the question. That's a good question.
• 35:40
  Leave that for the imagination folks.
• 35:42
  And of course, like feel like any long road trip.
• 35:44
  I'm not sure if you've been on a lot or or if you've seen Road
• 35:47
  trip. I've not seen road trip but I've
• 35:49
  been on many. You typically switch drivers if
• 35:51
  you can. Sometimes I feel like being the
• 35:53
  hero and when me and my wife go to Toronto I do the whole way
• 35:56
  there. Sure, a small chunk of the way
• 35:58
  back. I feel like you're losing in
• 36:00
  that equation doing 60% of the. Drive but I get the best part of
• 36:04
  the drive. It's the last couple hours home.
• 36:07
  That's right, you can stretch out, tap a nap.
• 36:10
  There you go. Yeah, that's fair.
• 36:11
  All that is to say, Jim Carrey's behind the wheel.
• 36:13
  Yes. And maybe it's good that you
• 36:17
  don't drive because you are a daydreamer.
• 36:19
  I'm a nodder. But this dream sequence?
• 36:21
  It's kind of fun. Oh, I love it.
• 36:24
  Many things happened, which is. Well, you've really nailed it.
• 36:28
  I have and I was on the edge of their.
• 36:31
  Seat, I want you to tell me what your favorite part is.
• 36:33
  The heart punch. Yeah, that's a tough one to be.
• 36:35
  Well, second, actually. Yeah, give me your second one
• 36:37
  because that is like, that's just so over the top.
• 36:39
  You putting in the doggy bag and handing it to him.
• 36:40
  OK, Give me number. Two number two is Lauren
• 36:42
  Halley's. Ass I meant for funny so that
• 36:46
  there is that. The third, I guess if I had to
• 36:50
  pick, is not so much the funny part itself, but rather the
• 36:55
  reaction to it. Jim Carrey doing this, which an
• 37:00
  audio podcast is a challenge, but when he is laughing and
• 37:04
  pointing, yeah, with his guns sort of back-to-back, that to me
• 37:08
  is the yeah, maybe the third. I don't know.
• 37:13
  Upper to all of that is him just throwing the chips in his face.
• 37:16
  Yeah, that's something I would do.
• 37:18
  Sure. Whatever you see in front of
• 37:19
  you, you're going to make something out of me.
• 37:22
  Now we have our first pit stop, Phillip.
• 37:24
  Now you love bathtubs. I haven't had a bath since
• 37:27
  you're a father. I'm not a bath.
• 37:28
  I. Actually, my wife mentioned the
• 37:30
  other day, it's been a while since we've had a bath.
• 37:32
  That's pretty personal. But together.
• 37:35
  Well, wait, so Jacuzzi. It's Yeah, it's it's designed
• 37:37
  for two people. This is another example of Jim's
• 37:42
  character Lloyd being the alpha. But overall the scene is kind of
• 37:47
  dumb. Yeah, but it serves a purpose to
• 37:50
  lay down another seed is Harry had a girlfriend.
• 37:54
  Yeah. That girlfriend cheated on him,
• 37:57
  but he doesn't know who. Yeah, and judging from Lloyd's
• 38:00
  reaction, it might have been him.
• 38:01
  Yes. Other than that, I have no real
• 38:04
  purpose for the scene. Yeah, I think it's a really dull
• 38:07
  scene, and it's strictly there for that, because I don't think
• 38:09
  the jokes work. Even then, I don't know how well
• 38:11
  they work. The pacing feels weird too, like
• 38:13
  at the cutting. If you watch it again, it feels
• 38:16
  stale. Like it feels like these two are
• 38:17
  just sitting there waiting for somebody to say the other thing.
• 38:20
  You could cut it out, Yeah. The only thing it's before is
• 38:24
  that. To to set the seed for later
• 38:26
  like. Exactly when you probably could
• 38:27
  have done that in the van. Yeah, you could have that
• 38:30
  conversation in any other environment and the whole road
• 38:33
  trip to have a convo. We don't need to take a pit stop
• 38:36
  other than just I guess to make fun of gay people like haha,
• 38:40
  you're naked in a tub or not, you know, whatever else.
• 38:42
  We do find out that Nicholas is gay.
• 38:44
  Just kidding, he's the bad guy. Yes, the big reveal.
• 38:47
  Just to us the. Audience Charlie Rock.
• 38:50
  It's a very sad story. In general.
• 38:52
  I don't go too much into it, but he was on SNL.
• 38:56
  I didn't know that. Yeah, in 1985, OK.
• 38:59
  And 85, yeah, 85 doesn't matter. And he, he's one of the sort of
• 39:06
  lead guys. He's doing Weekend Update and at
• 39:09
  1 episode at the end of it, they were doing this runner
• 39:12
  throughout. It was around the time of Dallas
• 39:13
  Jr. got shot. I heard about that.
• 39:15
  So he says at some point in the final moments and he's in a
• 39:19
  chair, he's all bandaged up. He said I just want to know who
• 39:21
  fucking shot me and they fired him.
• 39:23
  And he ends up kind of popping up in Moonlighting and popping
• 39:26
  up in a couple of shows and television over the years.
• 39:28
  And this obviously didn't end up walking out to Central Park and
• 39:32
  killing himself soon after this. Like he's never got his career
• 39:35
  kind of back. And that was kind of a sad
• 39:38
  story. He's kind of a non factor in
• 39:41
  this movie. Yeah, the movie is so clearly
• 39:43
  Harry and Lloyd and this road trip that the reason for the
• 39:46
  bag, you have to have one. But it's such a non thing that
• 39:50
  this guy really gets 2 scenes, maybe 3 in the whole movie and
• 39:53
  does nothing really you know? No no, it was nice to see him
• 39:56
  though because I liked him in on SNL.
• 39:58
  Bet you appreciate this next scene.
• 40:01
  Yeah, in the van, of course, about betting.
• 40:04
  That is the humor that this movie for all of the big
• 40:07
  performances and all the shit jokes that happened later and
• 40:11
  the gay jokes that happened before, the big bold things like
• 40:14
  we're going to see with the mustard and ketchup and stuff.
• 40:18
  This is the stuff that really works for me.
• 40:21
  Uh huh. Is I'll give you 5 to 1.
• 40:24
  No, you're not gonna do it. You can't make me bet. 12:50 OK,
• 40:27
  you're not going to do it. And even Jim Carrey is like, I
• 40:30
  don't know how I'm going. To get you.
• 40:32
  Right. Like, it's subtle, it's quiet,
• 40:33
  it takes 45 seconds. It's as funny as shitting
• 40:38
  yourself on it, you know what I mean?
• 40:40
  Like that kind of stuff. It fits into that.
• 40:43
  Well, this puts the dumb and Dumber like this.
• 40:46
  That's it. There it is, this of that
• 40:48
  moment. That's what this title is, is.
• 40:50
  That yeah, neither one of them can figure out that they are
• 40:53
  actually doing the thing. They said they were going to.
• 40:55
  Have you hitchhiked? You live in the country?
• 40:58
  I figured it comes with the territory.
• 41:00
  No, I haven't. But it's more acceptable.
• 41:02
  Like you were more prone to pick somebody up is a little bit
• 41:05
  safer. Like my dad's pick somebody up,
• 41:07
  but he knew who the guy was. Son of Yeah.
• 41:11
  So you have an inkling that you might know the guy and just
• 41:13
  needs a ride somewhere. Sure, but you don't really see
• 41:15
  them anymore. No, I mean they're all dead.
• 41:18
  That's right. You can do the Ubers, right?
• 41:20
  And you're like never lost anymore.
• 41:21
  You're never needing. I know, but I I've heard so many
• 41:23
  horror stories of like the owner of Coors Light for example.
• 41:28
  I don't know if you know this story.
• 41:30
  Rich guy, bad guy, fakes his car being broken down and this guy
• 41:37
  pulled over on a narrow bridge, didn't really have anywhere to
• 41:39
  go, and he was supposed to kidnap him.
• 41:41
  That ultimately killed him by mistake because he tried to run
• 41:43
  away. But I'm always in fear of
• 41:46
  stopping to help somebody. And that person is setting you
• 41:48
  up for robbery or something like that, so I don't stop.
• 41:51
  It's like Silence of the Lambs, right?
• 41:52
  Help me with the couch. Go.
• 41:53
  Give you. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
• 41:55
  But he's going to go with his instincts here.
• 41:56
  Yeah, he's feeling pretty good about this, which, again, is
• 41:59
  funny. Totally.
• 42:00
  Mike Starr might. Regret it, though.
• 42:01
  This whole plot doesn't matter, but the fact they're trying to
• 42:04
  get ahead of them. These guys are dumb.
• 42:05
  They don't know anything and they're always like, oh, the
• 42:07
  masterminds, the gas man, we gotta get ahead of these guys.
• 42:09
  And they get in the truck and that's Mike stories thinking
• 42:12
  like, I got it made, now I'm in. Yeah.
• 42:14
  And just the level of like, I want to shoot myself in the face
• 42:19
  as an audience member. Oh, it's rough.
• 42:21
  I want to shoot myself in the face.
• 42:23
  Yeah. No back seats.
• 42:24
  No, this most annoying sound, double stamp.
• 42:28
  It's funny, but I don't think it's funny.
• 42:30
  I don't funny. There's like. 10 seconds of what
• 42:32
  I like. Yeah, the only part actually I
• 42:34
  find amusing is the sing along. Oh, wait, with the Mexicans.
• 42:39
  Yeah, can I say? That Yeah, OK, they're Mexicans.
• 42:41
  OK, Yeah, if you're. OK, I think you say Chinaman.
• 42:44
  Well, because there you would say that the Chinese people.
• 42:46
  OK, gotcha. I just got the nuances man.
• 42:49
  It's all subtle, but yeah. Anyway.
• 42:52
  Singing Mockingbird mock, Yeah. Bird.
• 42:56
  Yeah. Bird.
• 42:58
  Yeah, got it. Yeah, that's.
• 43:00
  Good. And it's a reference a little
• 43:02
  bit maybe intentional to Vacation, which another road
• 43:04
  trip movie where they sing that song and then again the Mexicans
• 43:08
  and there see he had just genius.
• 43:13
  So that part I really like. But all the annoying stuff
• 43:16
  annoying. Yeah, well, I mean.
• 43:17
  As it was supposed to so the serves its purpose absolutely.
• 43:20
  But luckily Mike Starr gets some relief and he goes they go for
• 43:24
  dinner. I thought it was lunch.
• 43:27
  Could have been lunch and check the time you're you're in charge
• 43:29
  of. That truck stop was the name
• 43:31
  without the sea. It's clever.
• 43:34
  Sure. Yeah, no C's allowed.
• 43:37
  You can take the heat. I know pepper wise.
• 43:40
  No, I am a I'm I'm a softie. You're a softie.
• 43:42
  I can do it. I can.
• 43:43
  People are impressed, OK? My wife goes to bat for me, too.
• 43:46
  He's like, yeah, my husband. You're playing ball and she's
• 43:48
  going to. Bat Yeah, absolutely.
• 43:49
  Yeah, She she's impressed and she'll tell her family members.
• 43:52
  Y'all know he can handle it. OK, I can now.
• 43:54
  Is that common? The food you're eating is spicy
• 43:56
  and she's celebrating that fact. No.
• 44:00
  So why is he? Why is she defending you to her
• 44:01
  parents? Is not defending.
• 44:03
  This is my husband, he's really good at eating spice.
• 44:06
  A source of pride because there's not much else to go on,
• 44:10
  OK? I'm not good at a lot.
• 44:11
  So anything she can find that's impressive, she's going to brag,
• 44:15
  OK. Respect, respect.
• 44:18
  I don't even have that. I can't even.
• 44:20
  Do you have other things, buddy? Dig deep.
• 44:22
  Enough. Someone's going to have to.
• 44:25
  Ultimately, the best part of this is the ketchup and mustard.
• 44:28
  Especially with Lloyd. He's not even getting in his
• 44:30
  mouth. He's like I'll be takes.
• 44:33
  You think like what a mess, right?
• 44:35
  Like you got to get that pretty much on the first take.
• 44:37
  Yeah, I would hope. Yeah.
• 44:38
  Or yeah, you just deal with whatever it is.
• 44:40
  And maybe that's why he didn't get any in his mouth.
• 44:42
  And it doesn't matter because it's so funny, I imagine.
• 44:44
  What, Jim Carrey, They're able to get a lot of stuff.
• 44:47
  Like he he's just in the zone. Totally.
• 44:49
  I would imagine they just use it now.
• 44:52
  I do question Mike Starr like I don't.
• 44:56
  Everything he does and he said. Well, he's the only other
• 44:59
  character that I like from performance Makes sense.
• 45:02
  But they put Peppers on it. But he doesn't really take a big
• 45:05
  bite. And does he get much of that in
• 45:06
  the mouth as he does that? Would that happen again?
• 45:09
  It doesn't matter, I know, but I'm bringing it up so you like
• 45:11
  it does matter, but it doesn't matter.
• 45:13
  But it does matter. But just hilarious. 2 minutes
• 45:17
  early is on the phone call. I got these guys taken care of.
• 45:19
  We're good. Don't.
• 45:20
  Worry. Here's the rat poison I have
• 45:22
  here. They're not going to be talking
• 45:23
  for much longer. Yeah, genius.
• 45:26
  So, like, that kind of stuff works for me and my story.
• 45:28
  Yeah, he plays that role. He did.
• 45:30
  He's dead now. Not in real life.
• 45:31
  I think in real life too. Oh, too bad.
• 45:33
  Thanks for bringing it up. Oh well.
• 45:35
  Sorry, maybe a lot of ulcers. Maybe could have been.
• 45:38
  Playing a real deal? That's right.
• 45:39
  But they leave the scene of a crime.
• 45:41
  Yeah, well, crime. You're not a crime, but
• 45:45
  certainly an accident. Someone was poisoned and that
• 45:48
  figure out who bringing the feds.
• 45:50
  Yeah. Kind of ridiculous, but
• 45:51
  whatever. We get to meet Victoria Rowell.
• 45:54
  Did you recognizer? Oh, what are we doing here,
• 45:57
  Phil? I watch the audience.
• 45:58
  I watched Young and the. Restless for years.
• 46:01
  Drusilla, Drucilla and Neil. Yeah, and cricket.
• 46:05
  Another sad story. Neil Yeah, suicide.
• 46:08
  Yeah, I didn't know. I want to say 5-6 years ago
• 46:12
  maybe, yeah. You just don't know.
• 46:15
  You never know. Great show though.
• 46:17
  Oh yeah, that's Jack. Hasn't changed a bit.
• 46:19
  Of course not. They have so much makeup on, of
• 46:22
  course, so much work. Yeah, they did then.
• 46:24
  I love it. Lauren still looks great.
• 46:25
  I honestly have not watched Young and Restless for many
• 46:28
  years but I was literally watching every day I was PBR.
• 46:32
  I remember you saying, yeah, I love that show.
• 46:34
  I watch it every day too. Is that because it was on
• 46:35
  afternoon 430? Yeah, I watch Days of Our Lives.
• 46:38
  For a long time I would miss school and stuff but it's at 1
• 46:40
  so that's exactly you have to miss school to watch.
• 46:42
  It I didn't bother with Bold and the Beautiful, you know, they're
• 46:44
  in the same world, which I appreciate.
• 46:47
  Brad Carlton or the actor that played Brad in Young Larissas is
• 46:50
  still playing a character in Bold and Victoria, the original
• 46:53
  Victoria is still playing somebody else in bold.
• 46:56
  So they're there, but not as in. Love the original Victoria.
• 46:58
  Heather. Tom.
• 46:59
  Oh my. God still working.
• 47:01
  The great thing is, if you missed Young and the Restless,
• 47:03
  you could watch it the next day at 12:30 on three.
• 47:06
  Yeah, because they were a day behind because of some holiday
• 47:10
  in 25 years. 80 big story when I read that.
• 47:15
  But all that is to say we have a gas station scene where he meets
• 47:20
  Drucilla and and I worked at a gas station like you work in.
• 47:23
  Airport too, and your peak. Absolutely.
• 47:25
  I was working at a gas station, so there's things that would
• 47:27
  prevent this from happening. So is it going to stay on my
• 47:30
  shelf? I don't.
• 47:31
  Know. But it's just too funny.
• 47:33
  Yeah, it's great. Particularly what happens after.
• 47:35
  Obviously that's a little silly, but the way it goes.
• 47:37
  Yeah. What's your favorite part of
• 47:38
  this? Like this tiny little section?
• 47:40
  I just love him yelling at her, getting the phone number.
• 47:43
  Yeah, his eyes. His eyes.
• 47:44
  That's it. Just tell me that God damn
• 47:46
  number. That's the take away from the.
• 47:47
  Scenes whole Cam Neely stuff. And again, just like gay humor
• 47:51
  for. The sake, yeah, it's just bad.
• 47:52
  Wasn't a big fan of that. I don't think I don't think I.
• 47:55
  Ever liked it? No, you know, it's you know, I
• 47:57
  think it's funny that you see the clock, the clock and like
• 48:00
  that it's him being him, all of it around.
• 48:03
  It isn't really interesting. But but for sure, looking at
• 48:05
  that, you're reading the thing and and looking at it.
• 48:08
  That's funny. And give me the damn number,
• 48:11
  Bill. And he's like shaking it off.
• 48:12
  Like, all that stuff is really funny to me.
• 48:14
  Yeah. But the journey must continue.
• 48:15
  That's right. And now we get the next moment
• 48:18
  for me is the pulling over into the 711 as they're ready to
• 48:22
  depart. This is my favorite line in the
• 48:23
  whole. Movie.
• 48:24
  Oh, I've no idea what it would be then.
• 48:27
  Jim Carrey comes out. He's holding a bunch of things,
• 48:29
  and he looks over at these two guys just standing and he says,
• 48:34
  big gulps, eh? Dead silence.
• 48:37
  Well, see you later. And then he leaves.
• 48:41
  Such a throwaway I don't understand.
• 48:43
  It I didn't get her. Actors.
• 48:44
  I don't know if those are like just random.
• 48:46
  People, is there something more? Than they're more than there.
• 48:48
  Well, I don't know but if it is just big gulps, eh well see you
• 48:53
  later. Funniest thing in the world.
• 48:56
  I've laughed at it all the time. At the video store we would play
• 48:58
  this video fairly often and me and my good buddy Lee, we would
• 49:03
  just crap ourselves. And our friend Leanne, she would
• 49:07
  say you don't really chaps my ass because that's used in this
• 49:09
  movie too. So those two lines kind of
• 49:12
  transcended the movie and lasted for long, long time.
• 49:14
  I still will now enjoy say something and if they don't
• 49:17
  reply or respond. I've done that.
• 49:19
  Well, see you later. Yeah, I've taken something
• 49:21
  that's so not interesting, like, oh, you're doing this.
• 49:24
  Hey. Oh.
• 49:25
  Cool. Let's see.
• 49:26
  Yeah, Yeah. Anyway, just my favorite line.
• 49:29
  Well, that's crazy, but I respect it.
• 49:31
  Yeah, what isn't respectful, really, is John Denver lying to
• 49:34
  the public. They shouldn't do that.
• 49:36
  So he's messing around with his meat stick and he's fucking
• 49:38
  around with Harry. Lloyd makes the wrong call.
• 49:42
  He goes to Nebraska. A fork in the road, and one part
• 49:46
  has you basically going the complete opposite direction.
• 49:48
  Yeah, it sucks for six hours. Yeah, that's five hours, I
• 49:52
  believe. Yeah, I love it.
• 49:56
  It's hilarious. But we also get another fight
• 49:58
  where friends should be able to fight with one another and say,
• 50:00
  like, you made a bonehead move here, this is stupid, it was a
• 50:02
  big mistake, and we're not helpful.
• 50:04
  And maybe, you know, we're six hours the other direction, got
• 50:06
  no money, got no gas, we got no time, you know, blah, blah.
• 50:08
  Blah, five hours, but. I love it.
• 50:10
  I love the blow up. I think it's legitimate.
• 50:12
  It's great. And I think Kerry kind of
• 50:14
  pleading like you have never made a mistake like.
• 50:15
  He's always emotionality and that point.
• 50:17
  Yeah, he's really like the scene the.
• 50:19
  Music that's crash test at that point.
• 50:21
  I wrote that down, but it comes through.
• 50:24
  Yeah, and that's another good example.
• 50:26
  That's so stupid. It's so dumb, but it's that full
• 50:29
  support thing. Yeah.
• 50:30
  You get the scooters. I got 70 miles to gallon on this
• 50:32
  hog and you want to get on board?
• 50:34
  This movie does this a few times, but just the you know,
• 50:37
  you think you're and you're wonderful or whatever like and
• 50:40
  you totally redeem yourself. The reality of getting to Aspen,
• 50:45
  knowing how far away they are on that little bike is completely
• 50:48
  so unbelievable that you just have to believe it.
• 50:52
  Yeah, you just do they just. There's no reason to argue it,
• 50:56
  but ultimately. But to do 12 hours in like 1
• 50:59
  minute, but just go, just go. I didn't think of this till now.
• 51:03
  Is that he didn't want to pull over for him earlier.
• 51:05
  True. Yeah, I guess it's only it's
• 51:07
  fair. Yeah, no bottles.
• 51:08
  But yeah, when they're on like the curve.
• 51:10
  And you've just got all the vehicles, vehicles behind.
• 51:12
  They're in the freezing out. I love this whole.
• 51:14
  Sequence. The best part is when he says he
• 51:15
  got a little bit chilly back there and they're just like they
• 51:18
  got the snot. It's frozen.
• 51:19
  Obviously he's frozen, the piece frozen.
• 51:21
  See what I did there? I said pee.
• 51:23
  Yeah, you're welcome. Weird there.
• 51:26
  It's a great. Collapse over.
• 51:28
  Yeah. So yeah, we're finally in Aspen,
• 51:30
  California. Again.
• 51:32
  That was another geography joke earlier, and again, I don't.
• 51:36
  Know who cares? And Harry said something, oh I
• 51:38
  hate the French and they weren't French like so that well went to
• 51:42
  a couple times, didn't like it at all.
• 51:43
  But it's OK, not perfect. Yeah, nothing's wrong, it just
• 51:47
  doesn't work. For me just wasted on purpose.
• 51:50
  But here is a line I imagine you may have used but in a serious
• 51:55
  tone. When you see a man and woman
• 51:57
  walk by, they both have a nice ass and you say he must work
• 52:02
  out. I've done that.
• 52:04
  Yeah, sure. I used to hang around with a
• 52:07
  buddy in Vancouver and he was dating somebody and he would see
• 52:10
  someones butt in like a Lululemon or something like that
• 52:13
  and he would say, Phil, do you want to just slap that ass for
• 52:15
  me? I can't.
• 52:17
  I can't. I can't.
• 52:18
  But please for you. And tell me all about it.
• 52:21
  No, no, of course not, pussy. Unless an elevator, I'm not.
• 52:25
  Interested, touché. But now that they're here, they
• 52:29
  don't really have anywhere to go.
• 52:30
  That's true, but they feel if they found Mary, yes, she would
• 52:35
  open up her doors. Of course, after what they
• 52:37
  shared. Yeah.
• 52:40
  Problem is, he doesn't remember her last name.
• 52:43
  Correct this again. It's great.
• 52:45
  It's this. Is great, but it's not.
• 52:47
  It's not like laugh out loud necessarily, no.
• 52:51
  But the fact that he actually says her name and then looks at
• 52:55
  the briefcase right afterwards. Oh, Samsonite.
• 52:57
  I was almost right. That started with an S.
• 52:59
  What I like about this movie, and like you were saying
• 53:02
  earlier, there's a lot of levels, if you will, to the
• 53:04
  comedy is that not everything needs to be catch up and mustard
• 53:08
  streaming into the ceiling and been catching it or broken
• 53:12
  parrot heads. It can be lines like, well, see
• 53:14
  you later. It could be lines like Samsonite
• 53:17
  versus Swanson and whatever else.
• 53:18
  Like it doesn't have to be big, big stuff.
• 53:20
  It can be the little stuff too, and it works on all of those
• 53:22
  levels. Usually once I've seen a movie
• 53:23
  like this a few times, I'm looking for the smaller stuff
• 53:26
  and that's obvious. And I'll tell you there's a
• 53:29
  couple coming up that I'm going to be happy to talk about
• 53:31
  because that's. Exciting.
• 53:32
  Yeah. What is also exciting for these
• 53:34
  guys is their frozen. They've nowhere to go, as you
• 53:37
  established. They don't know where to begin.
• 53:39
  We cut the Harry trying to warm up his hands over the fire and
• 53:45
  he's shaking and he's like, we're screwed, like we're gonna
• 53:47
  die out here. You could see it coming a mile
• 53:48
  away, but it just works. Yeah, still funny.
• 53:50
  I was like, my hands get a little sweaty.
• 53:52
  You might want those extra gloves and that's just
• 53:55
  hilarious, but then following up with him choking Lloyds as like
• 53:58
  in frustration and like your hands are freezing, uh, is
• 54:04
  hilarious. And the reveal that they find
• 54:06
  out that the briefcase is full of money and they.
• 54:08
  Make it so clear that we're going to be.
• 54:11
  Smart with it totally like just the essentials.
• 54:13
  Earlier, yeah, exactly. So call them that back and it's
• 54:16
  5 seconds later. I don't know what comes first,
• 54:19
  if it's the hotel or the car. I think it's the car on the way
• 54:23
  to the. Hotel car pulls up to the hotel
• 54:25
  and they have these outfits that are outrageous, totally just
• 54:29
  gifts. Every movie that's around
• 54:31
  Christmas, people are always just carrying around gifts.
• 54:33
  We saw it last week with Sheldrake.
• 54:35
  People just carrying gifts because that's what you do
• 54:37
  during Christmas. I suppose so.
• 54:39
  A little bit of interesting tidbit, if you will.
• 54:41
  The hotel they pull up to is the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park, Co.
• 54:46
  Sure. Noteworthy for two reasons.
• 54:49
  OK, The first is it is the inspiration for Stephen King's
• 54:55
  writing The Shining. Interesting.
• 54:58
  And so enamored of it is he that in 96, I want to say a couple
• 55:02
  years after this, they made a Shining miniseries that they
• 55:07
  shot on location at the same hotel.
• 55:09
  Oh, so this hotel is the reason why The Shining exists at all.
• 55:12
  Interesting reasons. A little bit.
• 55:13
  That's something. Yeah.
• 55:14
  It's gorgeous hotel. Breathtaking, I mean beautiful
• 55:17
  rooms. Good enough for the King
• 55:18
  Charles. That's right, yes.
• 55:20
  Prince Charles at the. Time, Diana.
• 55:23
  And they were a thing. They were real shame about that.
• 55:27
  And this is actually at this hotel, this famous hotel.
• 55:30
  Yeah. Stanley is one of those scenes
• 55:33
  that I never picked up before and I think it's hilarious.
• 55:36
  Before they discover Mary Swanson in the newspaper, they
• 55:41
  are sitting watching the commercial.
• 55:43
  So long distance commercial and it makes them cry that I already
• 55:48
  knew. I liked it, still do.
• 55:50
  But them using the money for Kleenex, sticking it up their
• 55:55
  nose just to the Max, I never noticed it before.
• 55:59
  Wow. More than the Lamborghini, more
• 56:01
  than this fancy hotel that is wasting the money.
• 56:06
  The other stuff you're using it. Or a function.
• 56:07
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but you're so disregarding
• 56:10
  of it that you're going to wipe your nose with yeah.
• 56:13
  Hilarious. And here we find out that Harry
• 56:15
  may be indeed the smarter one because he can read.
• 56:18
  That's true. We find out Mary Swanson is
• 56:21
  going to be out of ball. That's right, a soiree.
• 56:23
  A soiree for the endangered Arctic owl?
• 56:27
  Yes, that's correct. Noteworthy.
• 56:29
  And then we get the little montage.
• 56:31
  Of been awhile since we've had a montage.
• 56:33
  Yeah. Like a really good.
• 56:35
  One montage, Yeah. What do you think about this
• 56:37
  one? That's hilarious.
• 56:38
  I like that they get proper haircuts and then immediately go
• 56:40
  back to their old haircuts. I love the fake cuts when the
• 56:44
  Barber shaving. Them as good work like do you
• 56:46
  like the gore I like? I knew it was catching all
• 56:49
  right. I enjoyed it.
• 56:51
  That's something that probably 94 I was enjoying a little more
• 56:54
  than I do now. I asked myself this question.
• 57:06
  I do that sometimes after a third or fourth watch. 2 owls.
• 57:09
  Yes, that's a set of two and the joke is made.
• 57:14
  Nice set of Hooters. Yes.
• 57:17
  What came first, the idea to have them bowls or the joke of
• 57:22
  we want to do a joke saying instead of Hooters, oh we need
• 57:25
  some owls. In the writing, you're in the
• 57:27
  writing. Interesting.
• 57:28
  I always wondered like this is probably more we have the owls.
• 57:31
  Oh this works out great because now we can do this hooter joke.
• 57:34
  But I often ask myself with these comedic geniuses, when you
• 57:37
  think of something and then you got to backtrack to make it.
• 57:40
  Work. We want to do this.
• 57:41
  A great joke. How do I make it work?
• 57:43
  Yeah. So I just wonder what like the
• 57:44
  chicken and the egg? Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 57:45
  I think you're probably looking at making the joke first in that
• 57:48
  moment. But that's a good question
• 57:49
  actually. It's interesting to think.
• 57:50
  About like if they decide they want to do the set of Hooters
• 57:52
  joke they have to import these owls.
• 57:55
  Well, one of those animatronic, they do the animatronics one
• 57:57
  later right when he turns to the screen when you're about to die
• 58:01
  animatronics they're. Real.
• 58:03
  Which again, is funny that they think these guys are
• 58:06
  professionals. Yeah, look at them.
• 58:07
  Even killed the owl. Yeah, they've assassinated him.
• 58:09
  Yeah, it's so funny. But now we get a showcasing.
• 58:12
  I'm going to send this to you because I know you're a big
• 58:14
  Terry Garr. Fan I love her and Mr. Mom see a
• 58:18
  guest and I was right yeah. Love her in friends.
• 58:21
  One from the heart. One from the heart.
• 58:23
  OK was she in friends Phoebe's mom or That makes sense.
• 58:26
  That sounds right. She just died relatively
• 58:28
  recently too. Not suicide though, so.
• 58:30
  We doing some comedies lately, but we talk a lot about.
• 58:33
  Death and mortality. Wow.
• 58:36
  Great. Now, again, kind of a thankless
• 58:37
  role didn't do much in this. Shouldn't Tootsie as well.
• 58:39
  She really good in that. Yeah, she had a good run from
• 58:41
  like 75 to 80. Five well she played a great
• 58:44
  lush in this yeah she's great few drinks so.
• 58:46
  Small role, but yeah. Livers Lloyd convinces Harry to
• 58:51
  go set up a date for him. So and then shows his ass.
• 58:54
  Do you remember that? Looks like yours.
• 58:56
  You have a really nice. Little walking stairs.
• 59:00
  I mean, Harry just trying to make the date and sees that
• 59:04
  she's, you know, gorgeous, kind of plays around a little bit,
• 59:08
  gets a little. Yeah, and he knows that they've
• 59:11
  done this to. Him correct at this point, he
• 59:13
  understands. So he's he's he's playing the
• 59:15
  angles. I respect that you're not
• 59:16
  Sheldrake levels, but he's I like it And Terry, like this
• 59:20
  woman hasn't laughed in weeks or months.
• 59:23
  Like so you need to spend more time with this guy.
• 59:26
  I'm like, that makes sense. I was just chatting about this
• 59:28
  the other day, and maybe because you just alluded to it, we were
• 59:30
  chatting so much about comedies and how there's so much sadness.
• 59:32
  If not for an ability to have laughs within that, we'd be
• 59:37
  hopeless. Oht Yeah.
• 59:38
  Right. Like as humanity.
• 59:39
  Right. Done.
• 59:40
  And it's certainly something that gets me through every day.
• 59:42
  If I can't laugh, then there's. It's what are we doing?
• 59:45
  Here Exactly, and I think it's an appropriate reason to have
• 59:48
  Mary, even if it's just a fake date to go on a date with
• 59:53
  someone that just makes you laugh.
• 59:54
  I like. That which leads us to a scene
• 59:57
  in the hotel room, which is going to be my last reference to
• 1:00:02
  something that didn't notice. Before.
• 1:00:04
  Subtle humor that's actually quite dark and incredibly
• 1:00:08
  hilarious. First of all, you have Harry
• 1:00:10
  wearing that ski suit, which is funny and revealing.
• 1:00:14
  Very. Small though, but he's going on.
• 1:00:17
  Lloyd is about how Mary could be the love of his life.
• 1:00:22
  Yeah. She's the blood in my veins.
• 1:00:24
  We belong together till the mountains fall into the sea,
• 1:00:28
  till the heavens collide. And he's really, like,
• 1:00:30
  passionate and animated and then finishes it off with or until I
• 1:00:34
  get sick of her and I need to move on.
• 1:00:37
  And there's something so dark in there.
• 1:00:40
  Totally. And true.
• 1:00:41
  Yeah. He spent this whole movie pining
• 1:00:44
  for this woman and. Lover first sight before it's
• 1:00:47
  the greatest thing. Oh my God defined her.
• 1:00:49
  And this is such a human real. They totally, totally.
• 1:00:53
  I love this. And it echoes what Harry said in
• 1:00:55
  the hot tub earlier, which was, yeah, she was saying some stuff
• 1:00:58
  about how I never listened to her.
• 1:00:59
  I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.
• 1:01:01
  There is this feeling of like she was everything to me.
• 1:01:03
  She could have been the one. But also, I don't give a shit.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, the duality. But yeah, carry in that moment.
• 1:01:07
  It's hilarious. That's my favorite scene of the
• 1:01:09
  movie. Yeah, well, wrap it up.
• 1:01:11
  It's my favorite of that type. The big entree is about to come
• 1:01:14
  where I think from a performance and not Lloyd related.
• 1:01:17
  I think you probably know what I'm talking about, but I don't
• 1:01:19
  have a lot for this so I'll throw it to you.
• 1:01:22
  The date itself. I'd like everything about it.
• 1:01:25
  It reminds me again of surviving Christmas many years later where
• 1:01:27
  the snowball fight escalates and so forth.
• 1:01:29
  Certainly did. And then it goes really dark,
• 1:01:31
  which I like, but sticking his tongue to the chair lift and
• 1:01:34
  then just like he keeps going around and around around because
• 1:01:37
  he never actually gets to ski because of it.
• 1:01:38
  I didn't like that one. I don't know.
• 1:01:41
  And what is she doing this whole time while he's going around and
• 1:01:43
  around? She's going to ruin her whole
• 1:01:44
  day. Gas.
• 1:01:45
  He's gonna ride the chairlift all day.
• 1:01:47
  Come on, you take the ski. You're up there.
• 1:01:49
  Great special effects though, getting that tongue off totally
• 1:01:51
  unless it was real. I don't think you ever done
• 1:01:53
  that, though, as a kid. Not to that extent, of course.
• 1:01:56
  But as a child, of course, I never did.
• 1:01:58
  We were told not to do that. Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Well, I like to rebel. That's.
• 1:02:01
  Interesting choice, I did that later in life.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, yeah. Taking policies, you know,
• 1:02:05
  taking the nine holes and putting that on your tongue.
• 1:02:08
  As a child you have not lasted this TikTok era my friend.
• 1:02:11
  You have been dead from drinking javax or something.
• 1:02:13
  Yeah, or I would have been better.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  You say everybody try this and they're all dying.
• 1:02:19
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  But I get the likes. That's dark.
• 1:02:27
  Sad yeah, Kerry soon after cutting back to him waiting for.
• 1:02:32
  OHP 10 AM ten. AM I'd be there, of course, but
• 1:02:36
  his delivery of no and I don't care.
• 1:02:40
  Beth is another great one that I've used again.
• 1:02:42
  I've ripped off this movie a lot.
• 1:02:44
  As you should. Which is followed quickly by a
• 1:02:47
  scene that was adlibbed. Oht telling that part wasn't OK.
• 1:02:51
  Yeah, but this part was. When he leaves, yes he sees the
• 1:02:54
  we landed on the moon picture on the wall that was already there
• 1:02:59
  that was part of the set already alright.
• 1:03:00
  And he looked at it and did. That bit was not in the.
• 1:03:03
  Script. Wow.
• 1:03:04
  Yeah, That's great. That's surprising.
• 1:03:06
  Reminds me of Elf. Another Christmas movie.
• 1:03:08
  Elf or Elf? Elf.
• 1:03:10
  You have to check the tape where he says the world's best cup of
• 1:03:13
  coffee walks in. You guys did it.
• 1:03:15
  That's great. Just the sight gag of that.
• 1:03:17
  So interesting. This gets ripped off a lot, but
• 1:03:20
  not me. Not you, not just you.
• 1:03:22
  You're the only RIP off here. But it's great seeing you waited
• 1:03:25
  for hours. She never came.
• 1:03:27
  And he happened to see Gary. Yeah, so he knows.
• 1:03:30
  He knows, he knows, he deal with it maturely.
• 1:03:33
  Maturely, as you would expect throughout the movie has a heart
• 1:03:36
  to heart conversation. Turbo LAX.
• 1:03:38
  Turbo LAX has like a Ace Ventura moment there with that.
• 1:03:42
  That's definitely a cross point where Jim Carrey and Asmah and
• 1:03:46
  Lloyd Christmas all kind of merge into one I.
• 1:03:48
  Remember in high school someone gave a little bit of mine.
• 1:03:51
  I don't know what ended up happening there.
• 1:03:53
  Probably best. That you don't really.
• 1:03:56
  Part of it, but I felt bad for him because he's a friend of
• 1:03:58
  mine. But I don't love potty humor.
• 1:04:02
  No, Generally speaking, no. You're more highbrow.
• 1:04:04
  Very highbrow brows way up here. This is Jeff Daniels shining
• 1:04:10
  totally. Well, I'm talking Oscar here.
• 1:04:12
  Wow. I don't know he takes it took
• 1:04:14
  for this, but I just loved his performance in the bathroom.
• 1:04:18
  Really good with the cross eyed thing.
• 1:04:19
  His hair sells a lot of that behavior.
• 1:04:22
  He is able to channel that. Kerry is like always that and
• 1:04:28
  has a history of that. And maybe it is just the novelty
• 1:04:30
  of Jeff Daniels doing it, I don't know.
• 1:04:32
  But I agree with you and I don't like oh, here's the shit scene.
• 1:04:35
  That's not something that excites me.
• 1:04:36
  I wouldn't get. Yeah, right.
• 1:04:38
  Generally. Speaking, but in 94, this is the
• 1:04:41
  tops man and his cross eyed and the sound effects and just his
• 1:04:45
  old all of it. I'm with you 100%.
• 1:04:48
  The only part I think is like a little silly and obviously it
• 1:04:51
  has to happen, but is the like, you know that toilets broken?
• 1:04:54
  Yeah, contrivance. Even if it wasn't broken, the
• 1:04:57
  scene is hilarious, Oscar, but it's definitely in there, in
• 1:05:00
  there for sure. Lloyd takes advantage,
• 1:05:02
  obviously. His plan, of course, works.
• 1:05:04
  You have somewhere to be because I can come back, but I have your
• 1:05:07
  briefcase and we're really in the last 10 minutes here.
• 1:05:10
  We're bringing it home. This plot was never designed to
• 1:05:12
  be tight. No or interesting, no or
• 1:05:15
  anything, or noteworthy or no. But I wrote something down.
• 1:05:17
  OK, But it kind of falls apart at the end.
• 1:05:21
  I mean, there's a couple good jokes in there, but we have
• 1:05:24
  Nicholas who just gives up. Yeah, I'm the bad guy.
• 1:05:28
  I don't care. Who knows?
• 1:05:29
  Like, these are not good decisions.
• 1:05:30
  So at this point, he has to kill them all to maybe have a chance
• 1:05:34
  to get away, which isn't easy to do.
• 1:05:36
  He doesn't have a silencer? No.
• 1:05:38
  Like his getaways. I'm getting a ticket to
• 1:05:39
  Amsterdam and that's his out. I don't think you're going to
• 1:05:42
  make it that far. But 250,000, I owe you.
• 1:05:45
  That's as good as money. That's a keeper.
• 1:05:47
  You want to hold on, that's funny.
• 1:05:48
  That is great. Everything for you believe it is
• 1:05:52
  Totally. Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  But so that kind of stuff, it's like, I don't even care what's
• 1:05:56
  happening plot wise. I'm not there for that.
• 1:05:58
  I'm there for the jokes. And that joke is hilarious.
• 1:06:00
  That's an IOU, Yeah. And why the FBI has to wait so
• 1:06:04
  long to come in. They just have to wait for the.
• 1:06:06
  Joke. Just wait for the.
• 1:06:08
  Joke. Wait.
• 1:06:08
  For it, Harry gets shot. Bullet proof vest.
• 1:06:10
  But what if they shot him in the face?
• 1:06:12
  And this is Phyllis Big Line. Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  It's a chance we were willing to take.
• 1:06:15
  He's such a terrible shot. Like Lloyd is man, you're alive.
• 1:06:19
  Give it terrible shot, you suck. And at that point, you know,
• 1:06:23
  Lloyd and Mary have had the conversation about like, what
• 1:06:25
  does the chance just lay it out, just tell you honestly that out
• 1:06:28
  when she's like maybe like a million to.
• 1:06:29
  One this is stuck around for a lot of.
• 1:06:31
  People so you're telling me there's a chance that's.
• 1:06:33
  Just I heard that yesterday, Jay said.
• 1:06:35
  It and then the follow up certainly later where he finds
• 1:06:37
  out that she's got a husband and he's.
• 1:06:38
  Like whoa. What was all that talk?
• 1:06:41
  What is all this million to one shot talk that it does stand the
• 1:06:44
  test of time today? I I mean, I don't I don't use
• 1:06:46
  it. I don't like to use other jokes
• 1:06:48
  that people use all the time. I want to be You're going to
• 1:06:51
  steal jokes. You want better known jokes?
• 1:06:53
  Yeah, nobody laughs at yours. I get it.
• 1:06:56
  I make myself laugh. Pass it off as your own.
• 1:06:59
  I've done that. I got this bit I give.
• 1:07:02
  Credit. Credits due.
• 1:07:04
  I also love the last little button, that dream sequence of
• 1:07:07
  the husband coming out and like I'd like you to meet Lloyd and
• 1:07:09
  he's got a. Guy shoots like 5-6 times a
• 1:07:12
  chest. That's a good little button to
• 1:07:14
  the whole thing, but ultimately the real end of the movie.
• 1:07:17
  It goes back to the well that's worked all movie.
• 1:07:19
  This is I think the third time specifically so it's not
• 1:07:22
  overused totally. And it's the best of the three.
• 1:07:25
  So good. This reminds me of Married with
• 1:07:27
  Children. OK, there's always these
• 1:07:29
  gorgeous women in the show. Big breasts, bikinis all the
• 1:07:33
  time. This would never happen in real
• 1:07:34
  life. It's just for the laughs.
• 1:07:36
  For the boys. And we need two people to oil
• 1:07:39
  us. Up and then you're in luck.
• 1:07:41
  Yeah, there's a town 2 miles that way.
• 1:07:44
  Another redirection of. Don't you realize what you've
• 1:07:46
  done? And then we think the audience,
• 1:07:48
  they figured it out, but we know they know the towns the other
• 1:07:51
  way. Idiots.
• 1:07:52
  And then, yeah, one of these days something will happen.
• 1:07:55
  We'll get our break. I love it.
• 1:07:56
  It's just, it's hilarious, the movie.
• 1:07:58
  You tell me. I don't own it.
• 1:08:00
  That's right. So does it elevate?
• 1:08:02
  Are you happy just to have the sequel somehow?
• 1:08:05
  I've watched it enough times where I would say I don't think
• 1:08:10
  I would pay money to put it on my shelf.
• 1:08:12
  Like if I saw it in a bargain bin on Blu-ray for 5 bucks,
• 1:08:17
  yeah, OK, I could make space for that.
• 1:08:19
  Jim Carrey have a lot of affection for.
• 1:08:21
  I think he's a comedic genius. I don't read books yet. 50% of
• 1:08:25
  the books I have are his autobiographies and his books,
• 1:08:27
  so I would paid a small amount to get it back on my shelf.
• 1:08:32
  But more so I would watch the sequel even knowing that the
• 1:08:36
  best parts are in the trailer and I've seen the trailer, I own
• 1:08:39
  it, it's on my shelf already. I've seen movies before.
• 1:08:42
  They claim all the good stuff in the trailer and that's not true
• 1:08:44
  because of that subtle humor. Not everybody gets it or they
• 1:08:47
  missed it the first time. Sure.
• 1:08:49
  So I'll go in there with low expectations.
• 1:08:52
  I'm sure I'll get a laugh or two.
• 1:08:53
  Like this movie is actually kind of long.
• 1:08:55
  Yeah, I'm surprised our. $50.52 so I'm hoping the next one a
• 1:09:00
  little bit shorter, not that a drag necessarily, but it just
• 1:09:03
  felt a little bit long. The things I enjoyed the first
• 1:09:05
  time around, I liked again there.
• 1:09:07
  I pretty much have the same experience I had the last time I
• 1:09:09
  watched it, which has been about 10-15 years but I think it's age
• 1:09:13
  relatively. Well, I agree, this of the three
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  is the movie I would watch again.
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  It's not on my shelf. I don't know.
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  To your point, it's the same I I've seen it so often.
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  It's like a nice reminder when I watched it this time, but I
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  don't know that I'm seeking that reminder anymore often.
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  And to your point, the stuff that I love most in this movie
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  I've stolen or is in, you know, part of my dirty there.
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  So I don't need to watch the movie on some level to get well,
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  see you later because it's always.
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  There so you don't need to be renewed.
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  I don't think so. It's like, so the stuff that I
• 1:09:46
  love about it there, there was very little in this movie, this
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  time, this watch that left me. Like, to your point, you found
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  new things. New things.
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  Yeah, I didn't. I was like, I knew all the
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  beats. So for me, I don't need to see
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  it anymore. I feel like I've really got it.
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  But I know that at some point I will watch it again, whether it
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  be on cable or or whatever, and I'll be reminded of how funny
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  those things are. But I was happy to watch it this
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  time, as pleased for you to take it off the shelf, even if it
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  wasn't actually on your show. Well, tell us what is on your
• 1:10:16
  shelf, or at least tease what's coming next week that you do
• 1:10:19
  actually own. Well, I mentioned the split
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  screen. From Draft A.
• 1:10:25
  From draft day, that's right, Depalma fill in Depalma film.
• 1:10:28
  So we're going to do a diploma film.
• 1:10:30
  Oh, we actually are going to. Do that, I'll tell you which
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  ones modern. OK, that's all I ask for.
• 1:10:35
  And OK, yeah, it's it's modern and it's got Vigo in it.
• 1:10:41
  I could look that up easily. Will I use the question?
• 1:10:43
  That's the question or I want to come in just you.
• 1:10:45
  Know we're gonna watch the movie about two days so you come in as
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• 1:10:51
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• 1:11:01
  You rehearse that one yes pretty close and his Dave Dumber than
• 1:11:05
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• 1:11:08
  I think our wives both agree. We're just both.
• 1:11:10
  Dumb. Equally dumb.
• 1:11:11
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