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Real analysts should aim to change the paradigm—Calistrat Marvin Atudorei · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: I'm joined today by the Romanian analyst and author Kalistrat Atudore,
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  who has kindly agreed to come on the long journey
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  across the border to Moldova to be interviewed by me
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  for UK column. Kalistrat, you're very.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you very much for your invitation.
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  Speaker 1: Now we met a couple of months ago in September
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  twenty twenty three here in Kishinoo, the capital of Romania,
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  at the forum Kishinow Forum, organized by our host today,
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  Yuri Roshka, and it was a great pleasure to receive
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  a copy of your book, America's Plans for World Hegemony,
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  which we'll be discussing in a moment. But first of all,
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  please tell us something about your background, your route to
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  a PhD in political sciences, and how you became interested
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  in the geopolitical questions that you now write about.
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  Speaker 2: So first of all, I have been appraged about the
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  lies that are telling in media and about manipulation, and
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  I started to study the truth, which is the truth
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  beyond the news, and I wrote some articles and then
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  I consider it's useful to put these articles in a book,
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  and this way appeared my first book in political science,
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  America's Plans for World Hegemony. Then I wrote another one
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  after two or three years, the Transition of the international
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  system from the unipolar order to the multipolar one.
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  Speaker 1: At lease show the audience that it's only available in
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  Romanian at the moment for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, this is the first volume, and this is the
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  second one.
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  Speaker 1: And your first book, which we just mentioned, was first
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  written in Romanian but has been translated. And this in English.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, America's Plans has been translated. Yeah, and indeed I
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  took my PhD in political philosophy political science, and now
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  I am president of a non alignment Country's forum in Romania,
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  member in professional journalist union in Romania, and I'm a
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  TV producer. I make TV shows with the guests in
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  this field of political analysis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how have you found it? Striking a dissident note
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  in Romanian politics? Bucharest, The whole of Romania seems to
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  be an environment now where it is regarded as derry
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  girl to toe the line, to be a cheerleader for
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  everything that NATO does. Your country hosts a whole battalion
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  of Americans just on the Ukrainian border. Romania, together with Poland,
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  is becoming a military giant in regional terms, certainly in
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  aerial and air defense terms, and you are sounding a
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  more pacifist and non aligned note. Have you developed enmity
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  with certain people as a result.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we could say so, because some publishers they did
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  not want to publish my book, the first one, and
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  of course I have been attacked in media. They criticize me,
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  but not very much because I don't want to praise myself.
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  But the book is so well documented that it's dangerous
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  to criticize me because I can show the proofs the sources,
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  and the sources are from documents, from different official statements,
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  a lot of documents issued by governments, and it's pretty
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  hard to say that something is not true. They are
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  not my opinion, it's political science.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just flicking here through the sources in the appendices,
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  and it is quite a lot of pages here the
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  book seventy pages of references with the full URLs to
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  very high quality sources. I must the whole book is
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  high quality. But the sources are to multi lingual original references,
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  especially from American and above all American sources.
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  Speaker 2: Because if I would give sources from Russia, they would
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  say that I am Putinist, which I am not, but
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  I criticize America for its plans of expansion to it
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  will be the first pillar of the world, to be
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  the hegemon, and the tools that they are using are
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  not so correct, I would say, and this is why
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  I highlighted some facts.
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  Speaker 1: If we look at the chapters in this book, it's
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  not actually your first book, we'll be discussing that later,
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  but your first book in political terms. After an extensive introduction,
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  you talk in the first chapter about the philosophical issue,
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  which is, if you're already a superpower, as the United
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  States became in nineteen forty five, maybe even in nineteen eighteen,
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  why do you want to go that step further and
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  become the hegemon, the undisputed boss, the king of the jungle.
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  Then you talk about the United States founding political principles,
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  then the strategy for the Cold War, and interventions during
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  the Cold War. In chapters three and four, you then
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  give a very fresh and thorough review of the Gladio phenomenon,
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  NATO's secret armies in Europe of stay behind.
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  Speaker 2: Very few known facts about this, but present even in
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  the documents of European Union of the Governments.
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  Speaker 1: It has been known in other books to refer to Gladio,
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  but you, using the Swiss researcher DANIELI Ganser and others,
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  go deeper and say, what is it that the Italian
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  and Belgian prime ministers admitted to their parliaments in the
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  years around nineteen ninety and where did their admissions stop
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  short of the truth? So you go further.
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  Speaker 2: I dedicated the whole chapter on this.
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  Speaker 1: Subject, and in this particular chapter, I'm wondering how much
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  role you saw for Britain. I six the Foreign Office,
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  because obviously, as the title of your book suggests, you're
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  concerned with America as a political entity, Washington as a
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  force in the world. But the Gladio phenomenon, which was
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  not limited only to Italy and Belgium by any means,
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  seems to have been one in which Britain was an equal,
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  if not arguably see me a planning partner.
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  Speaker 2: I would highlight the basic idea in this chapter the
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  Western Europe has been controlled during the Cold War through
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  these kind of operations under false flag and they, for instance,
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  pretended I mean when I say they, I refer to
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  the Americans and structures beyond states, transnational structure, secret societies
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  like Marsonery, Illuminati and so on, Bilderberg, and they commanded
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  this kind of attacks and even their agents did it.
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  They put the blame on the communists, and they say
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  to the public because they controlled media, look what did
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  the communists, so don't vote them.
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  Speaker 1: In the case of Italy, the blame went to the
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  Brigadi Rossi, the Red Brigades.
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  Speaker 2: When they killed all tomorrow actually, and the.
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  Speaker 1: Prime minister who was killed in my birth year nineteen
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  seventy eight, whose widow went on the witness stand in
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  the inquest into his death and said quite unashamedly that
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  American kingpins up to Henry Kissinger had menaced her and
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  menaced her husband before his assassination, that if you allow
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  communists into government, it will be the end of you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would like to mention because we are in
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  this point quote from a document issued by European Union.
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  So it's at page eighty six. Just a second, because
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  otherwise we can so people could assume that this is
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  a conspiracy theory or just some opinions. As you mentioned
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  the wife of that official, maybe he seemed to be
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  it was an imagination. But now here we are a
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  document of European Parliament and I caught the first the
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  first paragraph having regard to the revelation by several European
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  governments of the existence for forty years of a clandestine
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  parallel intelligence and armed operations organization in several member states
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  of the community. So I will not continue. But these
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  parallel intelligence service are connected with NATO and with United States,
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  so it's not something high and the very hard to imagine.
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  It's even the basic of the European hardcore structure, military
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  structure and political There were paramilitary prolongance of NATO.
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  Speaker 1: And people should perhaps not be too quick to dismiss
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  resolutions of the European Parliament. They may think that it's
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  a second rate political organization, but I think these days
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  that that claim is unfounded. Since it had its Special
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  Committee on Gladio, it has taken the lead and gone
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  further than the parliaments of its member states in its
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  committees of inquiry on issues such as the Panama papers
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  and the Pegasus Israeli based espionage software.
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  Speaker 2: But there are a lot of documents from government states
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  from Italy, Belgium, Great Britain, and I saw the photocopies.
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  I mean it's not an imagination, it's not conspiracy theory.
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  These Gladio structures stay behind they tell them in the beginning,
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  really existed and they were very very effective.
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  Speaker 1: For those who are unfamiliar with the idea. The nineteen
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  sixties thinking and nineteen seventies especially was if the Soviets
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  managed to push through the full dug gap and overwhelm
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  us with conventional or even nuclear forces, we shall need
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  a network of men who don't require to be commanded
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  from London or Washington, who can act on the continent
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  of Europe independently, but alongside, along the lines of principles
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  which we will have given them beforehand.
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  Speaker 2: We could go deeper in this subject, but now I
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  want to make an overview that actually this kind of operations,
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  glady operations, are usual for the secret services because it's
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  false flag operations, and they work even with some terrorists.
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  And in my book I connected dots and I explained
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  later in the book that United States collaborated with the
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  organizations like Al Qaeda issies, and they pretend, for instance,
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  when they fought in Syria, and they continue to do it,
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  that they fight against terrorists about against issies. But I
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  showed in the book with sources, very high reliable sources
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  that they financed the so called terrorists, these rebels. It's
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  hard to make the distinction between the rebels and the
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  ISIS terrorists. They founded these groups of soldiers and they
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  they armed them, and they rescue when they are in difficulty.
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  And when Russians intervened in Syria, they came with helicopters.
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  I mean, the Americans and even the British run and
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  they rescue the leaders of ISIS.
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  Speaker 1: And your book has the quotations from people up to
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  the level of Hillary Clinton admitting that ISIS was strengthened
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  and rescued by the collective West.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we get at a very important point here
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  of analysis that these sources are open, open sources everybody
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  can see on Internet. If you make a very easy check,
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  you find very very fast. But still people are not
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  aware about this perspective. Why because they're subjected to a
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  very strong psychological operation. Because when the system, through media,
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  through politicians keep repeating again and again a special narrative,
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  this goes beyond the level of consciousness of discernment and
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  goes in the under conscient subconssion, and the public is
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  like hypnotized and they take this narrative as effect.
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  Speaker 1: So we've gone from military networks to psychological operations. And
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  this is one of your key discoveries, not just in
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  the Gladio era but more recently as well. Some people
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  may dismiss you, perhaps as a socialist, which I don't
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  think you are, because you take an objection on principle
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  to the US containing the Soviet Union in Europe and
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  Asia and Latin America and Africa during the Cold War.
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  But the second half of the book I shan't read
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  the chapter headings, but from nine onwards eight onwards you're
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  talking about the unipolar moment of nineteen ninety and what follows,
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  and that is less controversial. The enemy there constructed enemy,
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  of course is Islamists, who turn out to be funded
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  from the West and from Israel. But that's your discovery,
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  isn't it that psychological operations in the media have taken
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  the upper hand over kinetic operations.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, maybe after you finish presenting the chapters, because other
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  ways we will forget what we are talking about. I
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  will explain this the importance very well.
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  Speaker 1: So we have plans to maintain unipolarity. When America gained
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  it after the fall of the Soviet Union, NATO expansion
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  nine to eleven, and the offensive in the Middle East,
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  the United States versus the rest of the world, which
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  is about America withdrawing from multilateral and global diplomatic conventions
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  and arms bodies and conventrols bodies. Then US economic warfare.
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  This would be the territory that Ernst Wolf writes about
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  and other such people. Confessions of an Economic hit Man
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  is another such book. And then you take a case
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  study very contemporary at the time you wrote the book
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  four years ago, that of Venezuela and the parachuting in
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  of Juan Guido in twenty nineteen it was ata and
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  then your conclusions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's very proper to get to the
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  previous question the importance of these SCIOs. So people are
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  controlled through this operation psychological operations, and not from yesterday
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  or the day after yesterday. It's from more than one
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  hundred years. And this is very much connected with understanding
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  the mass psychology. Of course, the globalist has have institutions
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  to research this mass psychology and they know exactly on
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  what pedals to push to obtain an effect. For instance,
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  when you point to emotions and when you keep repeating
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  some syntagmas, some keywords, and you can obtain a kind
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  of hypnosis, mass hypnosis, and the result is that people
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  get most of the people get in a state which
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  is known in psychology as cognitive dissonance. That means that
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  when a man or a group of people is brainwashed,
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  they are not able to assess the truth. Even if
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  we make I quote Kagibe agent your rebasement of even
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  if you make with information, you give them proofs, you
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  give them videos, they will refuse to believe it because
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  they are set in a paradigm that this is not possible.
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  Speaker 1: We have this idiom in English, he wouldn't know the
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  truth if it jumped up and bit him on the nose.
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  And you're describing how this state is induced in people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And we saw the results of this mass hypnosis,
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  for instance, in after I wrote this book and the
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  plandemic it is not a pandemic, it's a plandemic, And
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  we saw that they applied day after day some psychological manipulations.
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  You know, it's very possible that the virus appeared and
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  it's very dangerous and maybe we could be saved by
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  a vaccine or Bill Gates already invented the vaccine. Make
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  this vaccine because it's highly effective and ninety ninety nine percent.
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  Oh it, maybe it's not so effective, eighty percent, seventy
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  thirty percent. So they changed a narrative after the people
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  have been injected.
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  Speaker 1: And this is what we call gas lighting, because the
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  next stage is nonsense. You're dreaming. We never said it
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  was ninety percent effects.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Now they say, well, it was a big rush.
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  We didn't know what to do in this very special moment.
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  We could not go on with the researchers because people
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  were dying and had to do something very fast. And
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  the vaccine, we thought, is very good.
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  Speaker 1: And to credit the European Parliament again or some of
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  its members, Rob Rose of the Netherlands managed to evince
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  from a then director of Fizer. She was fired soon
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  afterwards in a cross questioning. No, we were moving at
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  the speed of science. We never made claims that our
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  product could prevent transmission.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were saying trust in science because the scientists
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  are saying this and this, But other scientists, even Nobel
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  laureate like Luke Montani, they said the opposite. Don't trust
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  these vaccines. These are not actually vaccines. These are experimentally products.
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  And the guy that invented the test, and he died
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  very I forgot his name, but he said, don't trust
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  this test because it depends on resolution you kept. You
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  may detect everything in everything, I mean, depends how you
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  use this rtPCR test. And it was a huge manipulation.
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  And I go back to this psychological operation. Everything is
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  a psychological operation in the system, even the education system,
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  how you managed the history, how you teach students in schools,
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  in universities, for instance. I can tell you from my experience.
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  I spoke with the rector in the faculty of philosophy,
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  and I wanted to test him because I, of course
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  knew the truth. A professor I heard that the Bolshevik
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  Revolution was not actually done by Russians, but by some
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  agents that were financed and trained in the United States
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  and in Germany and in Western Europe, and they killed
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  the Russian elite and they made actually a kudetta. And
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  this professor, the chief of the faculty, said, well, I
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  did not know this. I don't think it's true. Now
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  it's not possible. So this is a huge manipulation.
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  Speaker 1: Of course he knew, well it was best documented by
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  Anthony Sutton. I know, and you quote him extensively in
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  this truk. But Sutton had to leave his position at
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  the Hoover Institute at Stanford as a result of writing
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  the truth. However, it's unfeasible to believe that there are
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  a lot of faculty directors and universities do not know
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  of these books.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, there are a lot of convergent proofs in my
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  book I documented. I did not see anyone else do
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  this from the archieve of National Security of the United
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  States documents, so it's not interpretation. I don't quote somebody
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  else I saw. Of course, they are on internet, the
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  images of Trump documents. For instance. Some Western bankers sent
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  letters to Russian revolutionaires because they were not revolutions, they
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  were terrorists, and they killed their czar family, and that
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  czar himself and this miners were destined to help this
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  Bolshevik revolution. So the help, the financial help came from
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  the Western bankers.
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  Speaker 1: The two partnerships in Manhattan which are most widely named
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  in this regard in nineteen seventeen are Coon Lobe and
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  Company and Jacob Schiff. However, there are documents produced by
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  inquiries of the United States House and Senate congressional research
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  papers which schematized the findings from hearings from various commissions committees,
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  and they put N. M. Rothschild and partners above these
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  better known names as the head of the House.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I can recommend a very good source I wrote
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  in my book on this topic. It's a historian from
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  ESTONIAA So Uralina. I don't know how you spell it.
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  Speaker 1: J U r I l I n A is his surname.
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  Speaker 2: He wrote a book under the sign of Scorpio, and
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  he made a movie, a documentary movie with the same title.
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  And I appreciated very much how he documented this study.
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  Speaker 1: I happen to be translating that from Swedish Swedish into
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  English at the moment. And his other book is The
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  Architecture of Reception.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, here we can get to another level
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  of approach because we are not see only the involvement
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  of some states, Germany, United States, Great Britain. Actually it's
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  much deeper. And Uralina is talking about this. It's about
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  secret societies because lene in Trotsky were members in freemasonry
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  even in high degrees thirty three degrees of masonry, and
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  they executed some orders gave on this line. Albert Pike
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  Giuseppe Mazzini is very well known. A letter that Albert
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  Pike sent to Giuseppe Mazzini, of course in nineteenth century
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  or even eighteenth century, and they spoke about the future
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  world wars, about the First World War, the second one,
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  and they were the third one.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned this lodge Pedue or P two, which
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  which by universal consent, has run Italian politics since at
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  least the Second World War. Before them, you had the
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  Carbonari extensively in your book America's Plans for Weld of Jemali.
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  But you go a stage beyond many authors on this.
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  You don't say that the buck stopped with the head
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  of the lodge, Leccior Jelly, who commanded Italian prime ministers
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  and assassins. You say that Pedue was acknowledged in the
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  power circles to be an arm of American interest, which
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  is back to the book's title again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, in the final part of the book, the conclusions,
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  I told you the book was meant to be an ABC.
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  So I started with some basic things to not shock
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  the public from the beginning, but in the end I
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  went to some deeper level and I spoke about these
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  secret society and indeed, in a section of the Conclusions
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  called America became the Armed force of Globalists, I explained
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  that the world is ruled by secret societies that are transnational.
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  So the globalists are not necessary anchored in United States
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  or in Great Britain or somewhere else. They are everywhere,
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  and they are coordinated within or through these secret societies.
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  And they do not care about America or Italy, or
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  Great Britain or Romania. They care only to to inflict,
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  to establish world government, a new world order, and to
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  rule the in a tyrannical mode.
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  Speaker 1: And you suggest strongly that in our early modern era,
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  we in Britain became hosts to this way of thinking,
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  and that these forces induced Thomas Hobbs to write his
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  revolutionary political philosophy entitled Leviathan, The Beast that Brooks no Opposition.
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  And you mentioned that right at the end of that
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  last section of your Conclusions, that dethroning Leviathan is now
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  beginning to happen. And you write, nowadays, when the American
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  globalist power is increasingly challenged, it seems that the neocons
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  of the deep state have come to a great ampass.
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  Either they accept peacefully the entry into a new era
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  of multipolar relations, or they will play their last card
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  of chance to achieve global hegemony. You then mentioned growing
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  concern and opposition in the United States and the West
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  to American hegemony.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to highlight a very important idea that
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  actually is the completely dismissed. People are not aware about
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  this in official statements, and when we learn international relations
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  in university, we keep saying that the main actors, this
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  is the term in the language of analysis, the main
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  actors are states, which is not true. The main actor
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  is this globalist actor, the trans national society is they
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  keep making the plans and to change the history from
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  at least two hundred years they make They make revolutions,
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  they made worse.
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  Speaker 1: The French Revolution was very much controlled by secret societies,
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  and there is a whole stable of French almost we
• 29:55
  come across.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: This now they are how do you say, from want
• 30:00
  to speech, liberte, fraternity, egalite, gality, liberty or die. This
• 30:08
  is not mentioned this final part.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I just happened to be sitting next to one of
• 30:14
  you Eroshka's books, The War in the vond All the
• 30:20
  Conservatives and Roman Catholics in west central France who wanted
• 30:23
  to continue a moral, traditional life were bayoneted, thrown thrown
• 30:28
  into the sea, unspeakable horrors.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: You see, I think the role of the real analysts,
• 30:37
  which are us. For instance, I consider that we are
• 30:41
  the real analysts to change the parody, to say the
• 30:46
  real history, and people need to know the real history,
• 30:51
  not the narrative which is delivered as a hypnosis to
• 30:59
  the mess is that the French Revolution was the first
• 31:03
  step to illuminism and the civilization started from there, and
• 31:08
  great poetry and writers and no. They planned to get
• 31:15
  rid of kings and the aristocrats and God, to make
• 31:22
  the society cut the connections.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Three things class, religion, and private property and in fact
• 31:30
  the family all for and you can see this in
• 31:32
  Plato as well, but it resuscitates in the French.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Right. They have protocols, I mean, these secret societies in Romania,
• 31:43
  and I think not only are pretty known the protocols
• 31:47
  of the wives of Sion, and there are many documents,
• 31:53
  the protocols of Toronto, and they keep saying in a
• 32:01
  high mode which are their plans. But because the power
• 32:08
  of the media is so strong, and university obeyed to
• 32:14
  the system. People are not aware. They are keep staying
• 32:19
  in this cognitive dissonance, and we need to repeat again
• 32:24
  and again like they do. But we have to repeat
• 32:28
  the real version of history to explain what is with
• 32:32
  the French Revolution, Bolshevik Revolution, eighty nine revolution in Romania
• 32:37
  because it was another Kudeta here, and a lot of
• 32:43
  Arab Spring revolutions, many many others, and I wrote in
• 32:48
  My America's Plans.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: One of the indications that secret societies were running Gladio
• 32:57
  rather than states or agencies is the testimony given by
• 33:02
  one of the members of the Belgian stay Behinds who
• 33:08
  are associated with horrible massacres, the one known in France
• 33:11
  as led to a foudu Brabon or in Dutch the
• 33:14
  bended Bende from naval, which was shooting up a supermarket
• 33:20
  to create panic. They managed to interview for BBC two
• 33:23
  Time Watch in nineteen ninety two. You can easily find
• 33:26
  it on YouTube if you search for BBC two Time Watch.
• 33:29
  Gladio interview a man who had been a youth in
• 33:33
  that movement at the time, and he testified that membership
• 33:37
  and recruitment of this deniable Gladio organization was as he
• 33:42
  put it in French part parrenage, and this was mistranslated
• 33:46
  in the BBC subtitling, probably by accident. As far as
• 33:51
  I can judge, the subtitles were usually excellent in that era,
• 33:54
  but this was misheard and subtitled as we were put
• 33:57
  in groups of the same age. But part parinage means
• 34:00
  by being sponsored, somebody had to vouch for us, which
• 34:04
  is the operational model of a secret society.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, amazing. So about this book, America's plans for
• 34:13
  World had gemony, I want to highlight two more points
• 34:19
  which I consider should be included in this new paradigm.
• 34:25
  I mean to teach people the real version of history.
• 34:30
  And look two examples, and they sustain our previous conversation
• 34:38
  about this psychological operation because even it's these things are
• 34:44
  hide in plain sight. The people are not aware about this.
• 34:47
  So the first of all is the principles, the basic
• 34:52
  principles of geopolitics. They were elaborated in the beginning, not
• 34:58
  the first one, but one the first Halford Makin there
• 35:02
  and he said about Heartland, about Riemland, about two powers,
• 35:09
  continental power, Atlantic power, and these are basic things. And
• 35:17
  when you understand these kind of principles you suddenly understand
• 35:22
  what's happening in the world because everything fits in these principles.
• 35:26
  For instance, why United States destroyed the pipe North Stream pipelines,
• 35:33
  because we are not Knaives. We know who destroyed, not Russians,
• 35:37
  not Ukrainians. United States. First of all, it was a
• 35:42
  collaboration of many secrets services, but the leader were United States.
• 35:48
  Why because from more than one hundred years and here
• 35:54
  I quote Freedman I wrote in my book it was
• 36:03
  it is an analyst I forgot his whole name Friedman,
• 36:10
  and he said that from more than one hundred years,
• 36:14
  we want to block the cooperation between Germany and Russia.
• 36:23
  I will tell George Friedman, he said in two thousand
• 36:26
  and fifteen. And one of these principles says, in the
• 36:36
  formula of Harvard Mackinder, who controls the Eastern Europe controls Heartland.
• 36:43
  Who controls Heartland controls the world. And what we can
• 36:48
  see in the Eastern Europe, we can see this inter
• 36:52
  Mario region region between Baltic Sea and.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: The Adria tick and the Black Sea triangle between thee.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: And it's Ukraine. There and Breseezinski and many other strategists
• 37:11
  of the United States, which are actually members in this
• 37:15
  secret society's relatial commission.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Zizinski is a very fine example because he's a Polish aristocrat,
• 37:21
  not an American by burse exactly.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And they wanted to and they planned to use Ukraine
• 37:30
  as a pivot against Russia from decades, and we saw
• 37:37
  that they put in action this plan. So nothing is
• 37:43
  by happening by chance. Everything is very well calculated. Well
• 37:49
  in uh uh, it's a very elaborated plan. In Romania
• 37:54
  too is in this intermarrial. And George Freeman gave a
• 38:00
  speech in almost private conference. I don't know he speacked.
• 38:07
  He spoke so freely that it's like he was a
• 38:13
  traitor of the plans of Marsonary and American and I
• 38:17
  quote a lot in my book in these America's plans.
• 38:21
  And he explained, we are very concerned about this possible
• 38:28
  cooperation between Russians and Germany, and if they are united,
• 38:33
  using the Russian resources and know how of the Germans,
• 38:37
  they can defeat us the Americans. And that's why we
• 38:41
  have to broke this. In every means, this collaboration and
• 38:47
  many others something that is connected. And this is the
• 38:51
  second point that I want to highlight. Very short what
• 38:57
  General Wesley Clark said. General Wesley Clark was the supreme
• 39:03
  leader of NATO in Europe during the war in Yugoslavia,
• 39:08
  and he gave some speeches in America even on television,
• 39:16
  and he said, I went to Pentagon in nineteen ninety
• 39:23
  one and I found out found out that the Pentagon
• 39:28
  is planning to invade seven countries in Middle East. And
• 39:33
  I asked why, which is the reason? We don't know?
• 39:38
  And after ten years when the Qudeta in not Qudeta,
• 39:43
  the false flag attack on twent towers, actually it was
• 39:49
  three tours number seven. Also after they made this false
• 39:56
  flag attack blaming the Arabs, they had a reason to
• 40:04
  go in Middle East and they started, they started to
• 40:08
  invade those seven countries that General Weslake Clark find out
• 40:13
  in nineteen ninety one. It was Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria,
• 40:20
  Leban Somali and Yemen exactly. And why because those countries
• 40:30
  are part in Rimland. Rimland is very important principle of
• 40:36
  geopolitical and this.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Is the periphery of the Heartland. And if you control
• 40:42
  that ring, then you can hem in Russia and deny
• 40:46
  it Ukraine and the warm water ports exactly.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: So everything is a strategy and about keeping the unipolarity.
• 40:57
  It was a very important analyst on Pentagon Wolfho It's
• 41:04
  a very important strategist. And he said in nineteen ninety one,
• 41:11
  we need to keep the American superpower to be the
• 41:16
  first and with no revality in the world. We cannot allow,
• 41:21
  we cannot risk to permit the rise of again of
• 41:28
  something similar with the Soviet Union or other great power.
• 41:35
  We need to be the single superpower in the world.
• 41:40
  And these statements appeared in New York Times and in
• 41:46
  some newspapers, and they confirm this strategy to keep unipolarity,
• 41:52
  and they act exactly on behalf of this geopolitical principles.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: And yet despite Wolfowitz's aspirations, the unipolar moment has now passed.
• 42:10
  Hence your two volume book, which is a more honest version.
• 42:14
  You had to censor yourself to get your doctoral thesis,
• 42:17
  but it's a more honest and full version of your thesis.
• 42:20
  The title in Romania is Transit stem International the Low
• 42:25
  lat Multipolara the transition of the international system from the
• 42:29
  unipolar order to the multipolar order order. What year was
• 42:34
  this published?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It was published in two.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: So very recent.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, actually I think in it's it's one year.
• 42:50
  The book has one year.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: And have you in the year since then found any
• 42:55
  data points which make you revise your thesis. So are
• 43:01
  you still convinced that the multipolar order is now upon
• 43:04
  us or dawning?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: No? No, no, the unipolar order is gone. And I
• 43:11
  can say that the second book in geopolitical Analysis is
• 43:16
  a continuation of the first one, America's Plans for World
• 43:19
  hed Germany, because when I finished this book America's Plans,
• 43:25
  it was in twenty nineteen and the unipolarity was still
• 43:31
  on its role. I mean, the Russia started to be
• 43:37
  superpower on military point of view. Because maybe it's useful
• 43:43
  to explain a bit this international order, and the international
• 43:51
  order is considered by the number of superpowers. When you
• 43:57
  have one single superpower, you say that the international system
• 44:04
  is unipolar.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Because there is one magnetic poll to which all other
• 44:07
  interests aren There.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Are some some requirements because when you have a single
• 44:17
  superpower in a necessary mode, you don't have to have
• 44:23
  in an international system major powers, only medium powers. So
• 44:29
  it's a lack, it's a gap.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: This is America's twentieth century strategy against Britain it's ally,
• 44:36
  and Britain's strategy against Russia and the Soviet Union at
• 44:39
  times It's ally is to make sure that by being
• 44:42
  close to them and by being the junior partner and
• 44:45
  the one that does more fighting and the one that
• 44:47
  loses out economically, these countries will never have navies that
• 44:51
  rival the US interest.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: And this is a convergent with what I said before
• 44:56
  with Volkhovitz. They do not allow to have revolts, I mean,
• 45:02
  not a comparable competitor. The gap has to be so
• 45:07
  big that you have a superpower and then no major
• 45:12
  power and only medium power.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: So Britain in the eighteen nineties, America since the nineteen
• 45:17
  fifties have a naval concept of a two power superiority
• 45:22
  that you can take on Germany and Russia for example,
• 45:25
  at the same time and beat them both.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, so things did not go as America wanted because
• 45:36
  Russia get to the point to be a superpower on
• 45:41
  a military field, and starting with the twenty fifteen when
• 45:46
  they intervene in Syria, they blocked this expansion of United
• 45:50
  States in the Middle East because let's not forget Syria
• 45:54
  was on the list. It has to be conquered like
• 45:57
  it was Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I remember interviewing our former ambassador in Damascus, Peter Ford,
• 46:05
  a very honest man skeptical about our establishment, who voiced this.
• 46:11
  He said, nobody should think that President al Asad Junior
• 46:15
  was a madman for taking the path he did around
• 46:18
  twenty and ten two thousand and eleven in responding to
• 46:22
  the provocations, because he knew jolly well from the wiki
• 46:25
  leaks of cables that from two thousand and six onwards
• 46:29
  the United States were saying, when we have subdued the
• 46:33
  Iraqis Syrias.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Next, of course they wanted to kill Bashar al Assad.
• 46:39
  The same with Saddam Hussein and the Mohammar Gada. It
• 46:44
  was the same pattern.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I well remember the demonization of him in the press
• 46:48
  in twenty and eleven. How could this awful, terrible butcher
• 46:52
  be such a civilized and almost British man And the
• 46:56
  chauvinism was such that it was held to be incongruent
• 47:01
  that he and his wife spoke civilized British English and
• 47:04
  had a medical understanding.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: And they did the same with Milosha, which the president
• 47:07
  of Yugoslavia, because Yugoslavia was in a non alignment movement.
• 47:13
  I told you I am the president of non alignment
• 47:15
  movement in Romania.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And for our younger views, there was once a block
• 47:18
  of seventy seven countries during the Cold War, the Nam
• 47:21
  the non alignment, and Chaosscu was veering towards that in the.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Quality and Yugoslavia was one of the founding members, and
• 47:30
  they was positioned in the middle between the sphere of
• 47:34
  influence of the United States and the sphere of influence
• 47:37
  of Russia, and they wanted to be independent.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: In the end, the Warsaw Pacts and comic On in
• 47:44
  an economic sense had lost the whole Balkans, hadn't they,
• 47:47
  because between Tito Chalcescu and Hodja there was no Balkan
• 47:51
  power that was reliably in the Soviet communist camp by
• 47:56
  the nineteen eighties.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, and as we no, it was Adetai. In Yugoslavia.
• 48:02
  They used some paramilitary organizations, as I told you with Gladio,
• 48:07
  in almost the same method. They organize a revolution like
• 48:12
  in Ukraine in two thousand, thirteen fourteen, and they controlled
• 48:20
  the media and the public. And they keep saying that
• 48:25
  Miloshevich is the new Hitler, the butcher of Balkani.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It's remarkable that you are able to pronounce his name correctly.
• 48:31
  None of our political and journalist class have ever bothered,
• 48:35
  even when putting him on trial in the Hague, to
• 48:37
  pronounce his name. They all say Milosovich. And at one
• 48:40
  point his defense team made a point of this, can
• 48:42
  you please at least get his name right, Miloshevich, Miloshavi.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It just it's easier for Romanians because we are speaking
• 48:50
  like this. It's we are related.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: But in a linguistic sense, it is what we call
• 48:56
  a tell. It's an indication that the man is not
• 48:59
  regard it as a human being.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, however, we can see this pattern everywhere,
• 49:08
  and this is what they wanted to do, the same
• 49:11
  with Bashar al Assad and I was telling about Russia.
• 49:15
  Russia became in twenty fifteen superpower on a military level,
• 49:21
  because what is a superpower. Superpower is a state which
• 49:28
  is much more powerful than all the others on three domains.
• 49:36
  First is political, then is economical, and then military.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: In that order of priority.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Well, not necessary because many times the military is the
• 49:48
  most important one. As you know, it's a famous quot
• 49:53
  the war is a continuation of politics without the means
• 49:58
  because of it, and when you finish the arguments in
• 50:05
  political and economic, then you go to the military.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Notably as our Western bloc loses its supremacy. It's hugemony.
• 50:15
  Russia is being criticized for this very propensity, innate though
• 50:21
  it is to the status of a superpower of switching
• 50:25
  between exhausted political remedies and passing to war and then
• 50:29
  back to diplomacy when the point has been pressed in warfare.
• 50:33
  We're told that this is uniquely dustardly and suspicious and
• 50:36
  underhanded and Russian. But it is in the Clausovisian or
• 50:39
  the West Point model exactly the same. Yes, but we're
• 50:43
  not supposed to think that way, or we're not allowed
• 50:45
  to know that our Western planners would prefer to be
• 50:49
  in that position themselves.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Indeed, so I make a pretty short presentation on the
• 51:01
  I will not go deeper. So Russia became a superpower
• 51:05
  in this military field, and China became a superpower on
• 51:09
  economic and in this way, the general tableau, the general
• 51:19
  picture of the world scene changed dramatically because the United
• 51:25
  States did not remain the single superpower it appears to
• 51:30
  other superpowers, even not complete, but they keep growing with
• 51:35
  the other two domains. I mean, Russia is growing in
• 51:39
  economics and in political influence, and China is growing and
• 51:45
  military and political because economic they.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Are so you foresee that in the end China will
• 51:51
  catch up militarily with Russia and complete the trifector, and
• 51:55
  Russia will catch up economically and complete the trifector.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: They will become full superpower, both of them, Russia and China.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: What about the European Union though calis rad.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Union in my opinion, and I heard many other opinions
• 52:10
  from people that I respect, will dismantle. I mean, it
• 52:17
  will soon start a wave of Sudanism and nationalism. And
• 52:23
  they are desperated in European Union and even in America
• 52:28
  because people they don't support anymore, these globalists.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Do you see then the current move at the time
• 52:36
  we recall this in November twenty twenty three, there has
• 52:39
  just been a shock majority vote in the European Parliament
• 52:43
  to revise the founding Treaties of the European Union to
• 52:45
  allow qualified majority voting, which has to be pre ratified
• 52:49
  by the Council of the EU. The interest of the
• 52:51
  member states at the head of government level. But this
• 52:53
  is the last of the triad, which was first proposed
• 52:56
  back in nineteen eighty four at the Fontaine Blows summit
• 52:59
  by Francoism, resisted by Margaret Thatcher. He openly, she secretly
• 53:04
  because her party bosses told her, no, you mustn't speak
• 53:07
  about it. And the three things that were mentioned were
• 53:10
  European military integration which has happened, European monetary integration which
• 53:15
  has happened, and the last of the bridges to be
• 53:19
  crossed QMV or the loss of the veto, which may
• 53:22
  happen in twenty twenty four if the Member States came in.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Let's remember that when we, the member states of the
• 53:29
  European Union signed the treaties, for instance Lisabon Treaty, we
• 53:34
  signed as the sovereign states.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: That's the whole point of signing the treaty. The supernational
• 53:39
  body is brought into being, just as it happened before
• 53:42
  there was any concept of supernational organizations in international law.
• 53:46
  The member states or the sovereign executives bring an order
• 53:50
  into being by the treaty. They remain in control.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: And by an insidios mode. Step by step, European Union
• 53:59
  went to be come a federation of states. I mean
• 54:04
  to have a unique coordination ruler and the member states
• 54:10
  abolish their constitutions, national constitutions and just execute orders from Bruseil.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: But what is the situation now in Romanian society? You
• 54:20
  lament the unthinking, shallow anglification, anglicization of your Humericanization, the
• 54:28
  draw of your talents to Washington and more particularly to
• 54:33
  Brussels and Western economies. So is there still enough animals
• 54:38
  in Romanian society and in bian Ponson Bucharest society to
• 54:43
  insist on Romanian sovereignty.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Still we have animals, as you said, But if we
• 54:54
  want to have a perspective, I will point that after
• 55:00
  third the negotiations in Malta in ninety eighty nine to
• 55:06
  three December, the Soviet Union, actually it was dismantled almost
• 55:15
  ninety eighty nine, and we know that Gorbachov and then
• 55:24
  how is his name? The next after Gobachov, Yeltz, yel Bodysells,
• 55:32
  they were traders of Soviet Union. Even put In or
• 55:37
  some of the leaders from Russia, they considered that Gorbaichov
• 55:42
  and Boysells were traders because they collaborated so much with
• 55:48
  the Americans and they gave up the national interests of
• 55:54
  Soviet Union, and Gorbatchov in ninety eighty nine off for
• 56:00
  the sphere of influence of Soviet Union to America. And
• 56:05
  then it was the series of qudeta in Eastern Europe,
• 56:16
  and the most bloody one was in Romania, more than
• 56:20
  one thousand and two hundred deaths. And since then everything
• 56:27
  is manipulated in Romania, even the judicial dose years. We
• 56:34
  did not finish the case of this kudetta. Actually they
• 56:40
  called they call it revolution. It wasn't a revolution, it
• 56:44
  was a kuda.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I became away very quickly in the nineteen nineties, although
• 56:48
  I was only just a teenager at the time, from
• 56:52
  Romanians that they claimed there had been a show of
• 56:57
  a revolution. Yes, on Iliascus. People had included many who
• 57:03
  had served under Chawcees school, who maybe loyal to other
• 57:06
  interests beside the national interest of Romania. In contrast to
• 57:11
  the other heavyweights of Central Europe, Hungary and Poland, you
• 57:14
  didn't have a period of lustration, that is, screening people
• 57:19
  for their loyalties. Whereas Victor Orban came to office rightly
• 57:24
  accusing the Jurchani regime of harboring a lot of unreformed communists.
• 57:29
  And whereas the Warsaw Parliament held very strict hearings to
• 57:33
  throw people out of office who'd been communists, you in
• 57:36
  Romania were at the other end of the scale in
• 57:38
  this region, didn't you You just allow people to carry on.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I think Romania was a very important target for the globalists,
• 57:46
  and I keep repeating that it is not America who
• 57:52
  wanted us. It was this transnational from Masonic organizations that
• 57:59
  went to control completely Romania, and they succeeded almost ninety
• 58:06
  nine percent, I would say, and they started to use
• 58:10
  the so called soft power, not hard power, which is
• 58:14
  worse and economic worse. Soft power means ideologic movements. And
• 58:23
  the first plane that arrived in Romania after Kudeta, it
• 58:27
  was Sorrows and he came with a lot of moneys,
• 58:31
  millions and millions of dollars, and he organized the Open
• 58:36
  Society in Romania with the greatest intellectual in Romania, Li
• 58:44
  Chanu Patapievich and many others. And they took the brains
• 58:52
  which could be corrupted in the Sorrows schools and they
• 59:00
  put them in the leader position in Romanian society.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Do you then consider that George Soros had advanced knowledge
• 59:09
  of Chalchesku's downfall.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, of course, because everything was part of a plan.
• 59:17
  Gorbachov announced George School a few months ago that we
• 59:23
  are probably not seen anymore again.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: We all remember his frightened stare on the balcony as
• 59:30
  he realized what he called a provocation was going on
• 59:33
  against him. So he was perhaps the last to know
• 59:35
  what was going to happen. He had fallen out, of course,
• 59:38
  with the Soviets. Even in Brezhnev's time, there was a
• 59:41
  famous incident where he came here to where we are
• 59:43
  the former Soviet Republic of Moldova when it was a
• 59:46
  Soviet republic, and spoke to the Moldovan people. And Breznev
• 59:50
  said to Chaichesku afterwards, do you see now that there
• 59:53
  is such a thing as a Moldovian nation? And Chaoshivsky replied,
• 59:57
  the trouble is, my dear fellow. I spoke to them
• 59:59
  in Romania. And after that, of course, he parted company
• 1:00:03
  with the Soviet Union.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's useful for your audience to know very
• 1:00:10
  briefly something about the involvement of secret societies of other
• 1:00:15
  countries in Romania. They started, I mean in the hard
• 1:00:20
  banner in the seventies nineties seventies, and it was mainly
• 1:00:27
  KGB and they controlled the secret services of Romania. They
• 1:00:36
  managed to control and in this way they started to
• 1:00:42
  play a double game. The first game was with the
• 1:00:47
  ciow Esko. They started to lie him that people love you,
• 1:00:52
  they love love you very much. You are the hero
• 1:00:55
  of the country, the best ever in history.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: This was odd because he had only recently decried the
• 1:01:02
  personality cult of the Kim dynasty as unbecoming of a
• 1:01:07
  socialist country. And the next thing that happens is he's
• 1:01:09
  proclaimed as the genius of the Karpathians. So you see
• 1:01:12
  a KGB hand in this, do you yes?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Because they organized manifestations with huge amount of people on
• 1:01:21
  stadiums and in the markets and places, and they all
• 1:01:31
  saying chescopet steam and master Shimandria, all kinds of things
• 1:01:37
  like this, and Chou started to believe that people I
• 1:01:42
  really love him. And the second game, the second play,
• 1:01:49
  was with the people. They started to tell people through
• 1:01:55
  radio posts emissions like Europa Libera and Vochia Amrichi.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Radio Free Europe from Munich and Voice.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Of America that all the Dominians were listening in the
• 1:02:09
  evening on secret because it was not allowed official and
• 1:02:15
  these radio broadcasts are saying that Choshesku is megal Ooman
• 1:02:23
  and he want to gain more money and you are
• 1:02:29
  his slaves and he want to kill you. And people
• 1:02:34
  started to be extremely angry and.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: So psychologically in terms of the Tavistock Institute of Human
• 1:02:40
  Relations and the others like this. This is a strategy
• 1:02:43
  of tension, isn't it.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed very well pointed.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: As Claudio is the classic example.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly, you always can control masses if they are in
• 1:02:53
  frightened and intension, and you have to point to enemy.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: And on the last day of power in December nineteen
• 1:03:01
  eighty nine, CCU himself was was under tension in order
• 1:03:05
  to tuple him.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Actually, I don't know which is your perception about Curlscu,
• 1:03:10
  but even in those years we saw him like a
• 1:03:17
  Tehran and we hated him. Really now we realized that
• 1:03:23
  he was a patriot, even he was maybe naive because
• 1:03:28
  let us not forget that Romania was the only country
• 1:03:32
  in the world who managed to pay all the debts
• 1:03:36
  to the IMF IMF and why because Romania took alone
• 1:03:49
  to from IMF and the industry of Romania get a
• 1:03:55
  huge expansion and we really built a very import objectives
• 1:04:01
  for our industry and agriculture.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: And ver Hodja in Albania famously said I will not
• 1:04:06
  take a penny from the IMF and was criticized as
• 1:04:09
  impoverishing his own people and condemning them to use third
• 1:04:12
  rate machinery.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: And in ninety eighty four IMF doubled the rate of
• 1:04:20
  the interest interest and Zoshisko realized it's a trick and
• 1:04:27
  he said, well, okay, if you play like this, we
• 1:04:30
  will pay all the debt in advance.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Whereas your neighbors, the Hungarians under Janoshkadar, stayed in the
• 1:04:38
  deal and then the IMF managed to wreck their economy
• 1:04:41
  during the transition.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: But it was a tool of control of the nation
• 1:04:47
  because with this tool they can impose politics and the
• 1:04:51
  rhythm of the country. And Choshisku was not pleased with this,
• 1:04:58
  and he broke the relations with the Soviet Union with IMF,
• 1:05:04
  and he attracted the apprage the height of the Western
• 1:05:13
  society and they made the deal, I mean the Western
• 1:05:18
  with the Soviet Union with KGB and on December eighteen nine,
• 1:05:24
  many secret services from the foreign powers. They collaborated to
• 1:05:33
  overthrow Choshisk.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Some comparable notes there to what happened with the Cordial
• 1:05:40
  in the nineteen hundreds when the arch enemies written in
• 1:05:43
  France for the first time, agreed to ally and the
• 1:05:46
  purpose of the alliance was to crush the upstart Germany,
• 1:05:50
  and later on the upstart Soviet Union got the same
• 1:05:53
  treatment until the very last moment. It seems that our
• 1:05:56
  elite and the Nazi elite were planning together to the
• 1:06:00
  Soviet Union until the tables turned. So we see how
• 1:06:02
  this game is played. But Callie Strutt, we have to
• 1:06:05
  get into solutions at the end of this interview.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: But let me first finish the answer with this situation
• 1:06:12
  with Remania. Because I spoke about the past, now I
• 1:06:15
  want to say a few words about the present. So
• 1:06:18
  now we are in the sphere of influence of the
• 1:06:21
  West America European Union, and unfortunately the young generation is
• 1:06:29
  brainwashed and they are talking in English. They look only
• 1:06:35
  at the American movies, American music. In all the malls
• 1:06:43
  and shops in Mania, you can hear American music which
• 1:06:49
  is on a very low quality. It's not art, it's
• 1:06:53
  trash music. I cannot call it music. And people in
• 1:07:01
  Romania don't learn the real history, the real art, the
• 1:07:06
  real culture of traditional Romania. They now started to learn
• 1:07:12
  about holocausts, the history of Israel. They don't learn the
• 1:07:18
  history of Romania. I mean, mostly something else, but not
• 1:07:25
  the real deep history of Romania. Only lies. And in
• 1:07:33
  this way you see the soft power of the United
• 1:07:37
  States and the globalists managed to make Romania a colony.
• 1:07:43
  But the fight is not finished because we are some journalists,
• 1:07:51
  some activists, some intellectuals that are we are keep the
• 1:07:56
  flag up. A few journalists in Romania are keeping are
• 1:08:04
  keep sustaining the flag of nationalists and telling the truth.
• 1:08:10
  And people are awakening in masses, and it's part of
• 1:08:16
  the general current of awakening in the world and in Europe,
• 1:08:23
  a lot of sovereignists are coming. And I think next
• 1:08:28
  year at the elections, we will have a lot of surprises.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Are you thinking of the European Parliament elections of twenty
• 1:08:34
  twenty four or your national election?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: National European Parliament is confiscated by the globalists. I mean,
• 1:08:43
  I don't expect surprises there in a positive point of view,
• 1:08:49
  and I want to give an example of the real
• 1:08:52
  understanding of history and people are electricci myself. I did
• 1:09:00
  a show with the historian and he's actually a multi
• 1:09:09
  specialist in it and in technology, in mathematics, and he
• 1:09:19
  explained that in the last two hundred years Romania was
• 1:09:23
  the main target of the Jews. They came in Romania
• 1:09:30
  to conquer this country and they managed to have a
• 1:09:35
  proportion of more than fifty percent in many cities, especially
• 1:09:40
  in Moldavia, Romania, Moldivia and Republican Maldeva Modevia, and they
• 1:09:49
  get the control of the loyal of economics and immobilia
• 1:09:59
  in everything that matters political. And the happy ending for
• 1:10:08
  us at the moment was that in ninety forty eight
• 1:10:13
  when they established Israel, many of them left without prejudice.
• 1:10:19
  I mean, the Romanian did not kill Jews and they
• 1:10:25
  did not harm them, but still they accused Romanians that
• 1:10:30
  they did Holocaust. And now people understand in Romania. And
• 1:10:39
  this man that I spoke about, his name is one Roshka,
• 1:10:47
  is a similarity of name with Juri Roshka. They are
• 1:10:51
  not related, but just a similarity of name. He made
• 1:10:59
  an newstry which is called Fresca, and you can access
• 1:11:04
  through metrics of information, a lot of quotes about one
• 1:11:10
  thousand authors, many of them has been eradicated from Romanian culture,
• 1:11:17
  that they documented the invasion of Jews in Romania. And
• 1:11:22
  now we have the same situation. Romania is controlled mostly
• 1:11:26
  by Jews, and we have an opposition of party that
• 1:11:33
  are telling the truth, but we also have a control oposition.
• 1:11:37
  Of course, it is a party called.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Our au Are, which also is your word for gold.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it is the acronym of alliance for Union
• 1:11:50
  of Romanians. But only the title is nice because the
• 1:11:56
  consistent of the party is pro and people in Romania
• 1:12:03
  started to understand. And I hope and I think that
• 1:12:07
  at the next elections next year, the Romanians will choose
• 1:12:14
  strongly national orientation. Okay, and now I finished the situation
• 1:12:21
  of Romania, and I would like to say if you
• 1:12:25
  agree some things about a continuation of my books.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: This I'm very keen to hear, because you already mentioned
• 1:12:35
  the word awakening, which suggests something psychological or spiritual going on.
• 1:12:41
  And I'm aware that before you wrote any geopolitical books,
• 1:12:44
  you wrote one about what we call by acronym upats
• 1:12:49
  out of place artifacts. And I don't know how influenced
• 1:12:53
  you were by the book Forbidden Archaeology, which came out
• 1:12:56
  about thirty years ago.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Read it.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: What's the title of this?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: The title of my first book is written. The title
• 1:13:04
  is the Forbidden History of Mankind. And I wrote it
• 1:13:11
  with a pseudonym Marvin White. In Romania. The book is
• 1:13:16
  already famous, but they don't relate the content with myself, so.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: They assume it's a Romanian translation of a book written
• 1:13:23
  in English.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, but actually I wrote it. But if we want
• 1:13:30
  to discuss about this, there is something else before. And
• 1:13:36
  what I want to underline is that when we analyze geopolitics,
• 1:13:42
  we can formally different theories. That we go to multipolarity.
• 1:13:47
  Maybe we go to the world government and China and
• 1:13:51
  Russia are playing the same stage operation with the US
• 1:13:59
  and mobalist with freemasony Illuminati. This is an interpretation. The
• 1:14:04
  other one is with the real multipolarity. But I think
• 1:14:10
  for general public this is not so important. What is
• 1:14:14
  really important is what to do ourselves, each of us,
• 1:14:20
  because first thing you can notice when you make geopolitics
• 1:14:27
  is to understand the existence of this globalist actor. And
• 1:14:32
  the main act activity of this globalist actor is manipulation,
• 1:14:39
  psychological operation, and here comes a question why some people
• 1:14:47
  can be manipulated and some others, like ourselves cannot, And
• 1:14:55
  the answer goes from mass psychology to spirit and in
• 1:15:02
  my opinion, the answer is like this. Common people can
• 1:15:07
  be manipulated because their level of consciousness is at ago
• 1:15:15
  the false eye. This level of consciousness is to make
• 1:15:23
  representations of reality through the mind, so you don't get
• 1:15:29
  a real contact with reality. You have only representations of
• 1:15:34
  reality like a map.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Only perception.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, only perception, and the perceptions can be manipulated with
• 1:15:42
  suggestions when you keep repeating slaval Kryina, wear masks, go
• 1:15:49
  to vaccinate, and again and again, hundreds of times a day.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: In Britain we had triplets, hands, face space, stay at home, protect,
• 1:15:59
  the National Health Service, Save lives, tryads.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: It's just a for examples, but there are a lot
• 1:16:06
  and they use it all and they keep using from
• 1:16:10
  I told you in my opinion from two hundred years
• 1:16:14
  and people that are at the level of ego is
• 1:16:21
  like a computer. They can be programmed with suggestions with
• 1:16:25
  key words actually you know, I mean I refer even
• 1:16:30
  to the public. We saw movies like American trans or
• 1:16:40
  some others with the agents in sleeping. I mean they
• 1:16:43
  did not know they are agents. But when somebody else
• 1:16:47
  come and tell few, apparently incoherent words, something happens in
• 1:16:55
  the mind of the latent agent and he awake.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: The wh is not fantasy anymore, because there have been
• 1:17:02
  so many testimony control corroborated now that Satanist ritual abuse
• 1:17:07
  as well as secret agencies, dissociative personality techniques rely upon this, and.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: They work with the psychotronic devices. And some children were
• 1:17:22
  kidnapped and programmed in laboratories, secret laboraties, and they erased
• 1:17:28
  the memory. And they keep these agents latent, but with
• 1:17:35
  some impulses like this, with some key words, they can
• 1:17:39
  be awakened, and they can commit to murders and some
• 1:17:43
  other horrible acts.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I believe that this was one of the things which
• 1:17:48
  was whistleblown about by your most famous defector, the head
• 1:17:52
  of the Securitate, Jon Mihaypaceppa, who defected during the counter presidency,
• 1:17:58
  who is most famous for talking about the question of disinformation.
• 1:18:03
  The term wasn't known before his defection, but I believe
• 1:18:06
  he also talked about mind control agents.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: There is a book America in trance.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Do you mean the Transformation of America. Yeah, yeah, exactly, yes,
• 1:18:15
  by Kathy O'Brien. And then the sequel is access denied
• 1:18:20
  for reasons of national security.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: He wrote the book together, all together with the XCA
• 1:18:27
  agent who saved her.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: A benevolent kidnapper who managed to program her in secret.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: And unlike many some testimonies in this genre, which tends
• 1:18:37
  towards the fanciful, this one is extremely consistent and well corroborated.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: You know, Kathleen was agent of presidents United States.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: In the Reagan era.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, and he was used not only as sex slave,
• 1:18:54
  but to transmit messages.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: And he had this capacity if you gave her book,
• 1:19:01
  and he is in a stage of trance when he
• 1:19:04
  reads the book only once he memorized perfectly, and then
• 1:19:09
  she can deliver the message entirely to another person without
• 1:19:14
  any possibility to be corrupt the message or stolen or intercepted.
• 1:19:21
  And the situation is much wider and much dangerous than
• 1:19:28
  the existence of these agents because at the level of
• 1:19:32
  the scale of messes.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: This is why the notion is so vehemently attacked and
• 1:19:36
  why so many people take pains to debunk the idea
• 1:19:40
  of Satanist ritual abuse or multiple personality disorder, because if
• 1:19:45
  that is believed at the extreme sharp end, that people
• 1:19:49
  can be so totally controlled in this way, then people
• 1:19:52
  will realize that in a softer, more generic way, the
• 1:19:56
  majority of the population is being suggest did is being
• 1:20:02
  made bidable, and we can't have or the controllers can't
• 1:20:05
  have people thinking that that's a possibility.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that most of our audience heard or saw
• 1:20:13
  the rituals made that the inauguration of cern of that tunnel.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: In the Gothard Tunnel in Switzerland. Two examples in Switzerland.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Where the global Is made rituals or at the beginning
• 1:20:28
  of some Olympic games, and the rituals had absolutely no
• 1:20:33
  connection with the support and that games. It was actually
• 1:20:40
  predictive programming of messes through media.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: We had a notable example in the twenty twelve London
• 1:20:47
  Olympics exactly where there was a sick show of patients.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they they put seminals in the under conscient of
• 1:20:58
  the messes with what is about to come in twenty
• 1:21:02
  nineteen with this pandemic. So when people are hypnotized, even
• 1:21:07
  if they don't realize, with some seeds that are put
• 1:21:12
  in their under conscience, subconscient when things are happening by chance.
• 1:21:19
  Apparently they accepted because they were already programmed.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: It's almost become a saying in American English, I've seen
• 1:21:26
  this movie before.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Hollywood exactly, this is what they are doing
• 1:21:31
  with the pandemics and aliens and all kinds of stuff.
• 1:21:35
  So all this can happen, and people can be programmed
• 1:21:40
  when they are like computers, like machines, like programs of
• 1:21:48
  computer and at the level of ego. But we can
• 1:21:53
  do something else, and we can go to a higher
• 1:21:57
  level of consciousness, which is called in some interpretation the
• 1:22:03
  awakening of the soul. What does it mean. Awakening of
• 1:22:09
  the souls means to have the connection with God, with
• 1:22:16
  the harmony of the universe, because at the level of consciousness,
• 1:22:22
  and the science is telling us this, we are all connected.
• 1:22:28
  The consciousness is not just a product of our body.
• 1:22:33
  The consciousness is a matrix for the body. When we
• 1:22:37
  fix something in our consciousness, we can transform and heal
• 1:22:41
  the body.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: A term which has become increasingly common in intelligent discourse
• 1:22:46
  now about the social phenomena is egregore, the idea that
• 1:22:50
  there is a mass consciousness.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: It's connected with the studies of Rupert Sheldrick about the
• 1:23:00
  theory of morphogenetics. And there are a lot of examples.
• 1:23:06
  I mentioned only one. For instance, one hundred years ago
• 1:23:12
  kerelyan husband and wife. They made some experiments and for instance,
• 1:23:18
  when they cut a leaf, a quarter of a leaf
• 1:23:22
  and they photograph the aura, they noticed that the aura
• 1:23:27
  is still entire even if the leaf has a quarter
• 1:23:32
  of Why the leaf the aura is entire because the
• 1:23:37
  hour works like a metris, so the aura is not
• 1:23:42
  a product of the leaf activity biological activity of the leaf.
• 1:23:47
  But otherwise the oura is like a metrix. And this
• 1:23:53
  is why the physical projection appears.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Who produces this matrix?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: If this theory is correct, this matrix is connected with God.
• 1:24:04
  I mean, there are some archetypes and the Rupert Childric
• 1:24:07
  spoke about this theory or morphogenetics. All the species has
• 1:24:12
  some information field, and this is why there are some
• 1:24:20
  famous experiments with the monkeys, the theory of one hundred monkeys.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know in English we tend to refer
• 1:24:28
  to it as the hundredth monkey.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: Indeed, and with the mice, the information could cross the ocean.
• 1:24:37
  They made some experiments in Great Britain and when they
• 1:24:41
  repeated the experiment in the United States, the mice is there.
• 1:24:44
  They already knew.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: This one is better known than some of the others
• 1:24:47
  in this field.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Indeed, And it's the same with the people with the humans,
• 1:24:54
  because when enough group of people, enough amount of people
• 1:25:01
  understood a lesson, the message, the conclusion of the lesson
• 1:25:06
  is transmitted to all mankind. And the lesson we need
• 1:25:11
  to understand is this connection with God. And if we
• 1:25:16
  get to this level, to awakening the soul, we have
• 1:25:20
  this direct connection with God, we cannot be manipulated. We
• 1:25:25
  have a light in our soul that vanish the dark,
• 1:25:31
  and the dark side can control us only if they
• 1:25:37
  keep us in fear and ignorance. And that's why they
• 1:25:41
  want to destroy the moral values of nations, the spirituality
• 1:25:48
  of nations, the cultural values, because all these are making
• 1:25:53
  the soul vibrate. And if we are dead inside cold
• 1:25:59
  and we have no emotion high emotion, we can be
• 1:26:05
  very easily manipulated. But when we have a goal that
• 1:26:10
  transcends the existence of the matter, I can I say
• 1:26:16
  this in principle, I can give my life to this goal,
• 1:26:22
  to this objective without hesitation, because I do it for God.
• 1:26:26
  I do it for a principle, for an idea. And
• 1:26:29
  this is very dangerous for the globalists because they want
• 1:26:32
  us to live only in fear, only in material domain.
• 1:26:37
  What I'm going to eat tomorrow? What happens if they
• 1:26:42
  cut my comment in the bank.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: It is remarkable that in the Sermon on the Mount,
• 1:26:46
  the Lord Jesus Christ told his disciples not to worry
• 1:26:50
  beyond today.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Indeed, and we have a lot of affirmations that our
• 1:26:57
  Lord Jesus Christ told us, and they are enlightening for us.
• 1:27:02
  And we only have to deepen the meanings and we
• 1:27:09
  will have a completely different perspective. So this is what
• 1:27:14
  I consider people has to make to have this jump
• 1:27:20
  for ego to seul. When we are at the level
• 1:27:24
  of consciousness of soul, we are in direct connection with God.
• 1:27:28
  We understand the purpose of our life, and we have
• 1:27:33
  no fear. When we live in ego, we are at stage.
• 1:27:40
  It is called to be like an atom. The existence
• 1:27:44
  is atomized. We are all separated. I'm an atom, you
• 1:27:49
  are an atom. Everybody are atom. We are not connected.
• 1:27:53
  I only want to be good for myself. I'm not
• 1:27:57
  I don't care about others. But if for me, it's good. Well,
• 1:28:02
  I can watch TV and not problem.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Many commentators have called these two basic paradigms in the
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  universe service to self and service to others.
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  Speaker 2: I would say in the end of our dialogue that
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  if we go to this level of soul, we understand
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  that nothing is happening by chance. Everything has a purpose,
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  and everything is coordinated by God.
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  Speaker 1: We could even say predestined in some theology.
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  Speaker 2: But we have a free will and God give us
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  the opportunity to choose. And I think this is the
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  key within we can understand what's happening in the world.
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  Because if we consider that now it's a battle between good,
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  between God and evil and Satan, we don't understand too much. Actually,
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  God is almighty, He knows everything, He can do everything.
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  And if something that we consider is evil, is bad,
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  is happening is with the acceptance of God. But why
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  God accepts this.
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  Speaker 1: The problem of theodosy Why does God permit evil?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because evil has a role in the manifestation, and
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  the role of evil is to test us, to make us,
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  to give us an impulse. And when we fight with
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  these problems, we transform ourselves. And I consider that humanity
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  is at the end of a cycle. And this is
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  what I wrote in my first book, The Forbidden History
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  of Mankind, Because as you said, with the parts outside,
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  the out of place artifacts, there were some objects, even big,
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  huge objects like pyramids on the bottom of oceans.
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  Speaker 1: And Yonaguni is a famous one.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And they were constructed thousands of years tens of
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  thousands of years ago ago, and we can ask ourselves
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  who built them, and they obviously had a very high knowledge,
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  because our official history says that the human kind started
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  ten thousands years ago with agriculture. People descend from the
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  trees and they started hunting. But this does not fit
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  with pyramids. Pyramids are amazing. We have no time now
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  to discuss more about this. I visited pyramids and it's
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  a huge knowledge there. And the planet is filled with
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  pyramids in all the continents, even in Antarctica in the
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  bottom of the seas, as I said, and it was
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  a civilization before that built the pyramids with a purpose,
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  and they were connected and many others. The map of
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  period ice which shows Antarctica before to be covered by
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  huge kilometers of ice, and on the planet Earth, there
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  were some other cycles of civilization. They disappeared because they
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  were cycles of civilization, and now we get to the
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  end of this cycle. Many spiritual traditions, not only the
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  Christians Apocalypsa said this, but the Vedas, the Egyptian tradition, Sumerian,
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  and the many others. Maya Maya tradition, you know, the
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  calendar of Maya twenty twelfth. We started another cycle. And
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  the God permits all these transformations because now it is
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  a selection of frequency or vibration to make the jump
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  to the vibrational jump to another era.
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  Speaker 1: I'm reminded in closing then, of that warning in the
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  Epistle of James in the New Testament. Let no man
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  say when he is tempted, I am being tempted by God.
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  For each man is tempted and drawn away by his
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  own lusts.
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  Speaker 2: We live like an exam. We are all supposed to
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  an exam, a very difficult one. And we need to
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  manifest our first understanding what's happening to go beyond ago
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  in soul connection with God, to understand a new paradigm
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  of the real history. And we need to manifest our intention.
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  The power of intention is huge. It was measured by science.
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  I mean, when we have an intention, especially in resonance
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  big groups of people. When we pray together, the prey
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  has a much bigger force than if we pray alone.
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  And now humanity is subjective to examine to a test,
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  and not all the people are crossing the test. Who
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  cannot position at upper level of vibration of understanding of
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  consciousness don't pass. Unfortunately, the example because all the planet,
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  all the mankind has to go on a cosmic cycle
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  to another era.
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  Speaker 1: How notable that we began this interview you discussing the
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  unchallenged rule of one political force, and we ended up
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  with the power of prayer and consciousness Kalist. It's been
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  a great pleasure. I hope that people read your books,
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  that more of them are translated into English. How can
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  people find you online?
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  Speaker 2: So my books are on Amazon and if I have
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  a site Geopolitica ptro dotro Geopolitica written with Kappa.
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  Speaker 1: G E O P O l I t I k
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  A dot r O.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I have many articles written by me, even are
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  not included in my books, some others. And they can
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  find a lot of shows that I TV shows that
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  I done, and I have a telegram channel Carli Strat
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  Marvin at Dore. They can find the I'm almost hundreds
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  of shows, TV shows that I made. And we are
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  a group of patriots here in Romania, and we keep
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  this flag of nationalist man. I'm sure we will win.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you too for invitation