Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / Dogman: Flesh & Blood vs. Supernatural - with Abnormal Investigations
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- 0:00Hi. Well, hey, everybody, welcome in. I actually have internet
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- 1:11I have Mike from Abnormal Investigations on the show today. He's in the studio
- 1:17this afternoon. All right, We're gonna be talking about dog Man and I
- 1:22cannot wait. This is a conversation that I love having with people because we
- 1:26all have different opinions and different experiences on this and nobody's no. We can't
- 1:34say anybody's right and anybody's wrong because we're alsill trying to figure this out.
- 1:37And that's why I love talking about dog Man Supernatural versus the Flesh and Blood
- 1:44today. So this is going to be fantastic. Okay, Well, I
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- 3:50I have a great guest here. I have well Steven Michael is his
- 3:53name on social media. Okay, but this is Mike. He's with Abnormal
- 3:57Investigations. He is a researcher, law enforcement, former law enforcement officer,
- 4:01and uh and just has a fantastic YouTube channel. You guys please go check
- 4:06him out. He's been my guests at spaced Out Radio and you probably have
- 4:11seen him on the different podcasts and things across social media lately, so please
- 4:16help me. Welcome to the show today, Mike from Abnormal Investigations. Hey,
- 4:21Mike, Hello, Hey, thank you so much for being here today.
- 4:27Oh not no, I'm glad to be here. It's always a pleasure
- 4:30to be on your show. Oh well, thank you. Oh hey,
- 4:32I was I tuned into your life the other night and I had to hop
- 4:35in there and just say hey, And you were talking about one of my
- 4:39favorite subjects. And that's not only portals, okay, and the possibility of
- 4:45portals or not possible, you know, just putting your thoughts out there on
- 4:47portals and and also kind of the it's not an argument, it's a debate
- 4:54really as to whether there's um dogman that encrypteds that are flesh and blood verse
- 5:00is supernatural or some say there could be both. Right. So I thought
- 5:05you had some of the most interesting points that I had not even thought about
- 5:10before from a biblical stance, and uh, and I thought maybe we could
- 5:14talk about that today. It tickled me. I actually was up late thinking
- 5:18about it, like uh, and I love that when when I hear someone
- 5:24put their opinion out there and it really makes me think. And so,
- 5:27um, yeah, I thought, I thought maybe you could kind of share
- 5:30your thoughts on I guess like on portals for instance. Um, because you
- 5:36know my team, we've we've encountered something we consider to be a portal,
- 5:40but we don't know for sure. Um, And so yeah, let's talk
- 5:45about that today. Are you are you down for that? Sure? Sure?
- 5:48Okay, okay, good? You know, the portals really interested me.
- 5:58So I've done some digging and I suppose with several people, and I
- 6:03took a lot of my understanding biblically with people into a lot more than I
- 6:09do of other preachers and priests, you know, of different different beliefs,
- 6:15different religions, And pretty much they were in agreeance that anything flesh and blood,
- 6:25the way Jesus spoke, what is flesh is flesh, and what is
- 6:28spirit is spirit, and cannot enter into the spiritual dimension that our bodies were
- 6:33not designed for. That there was a person that done it, the only
- 6:38person that done it, which was Jesus. When he received his glorified body,
- 6:42he said, I am the only one that has risen and has came
- 6:46back. Now, I'm not saying that portals don't exist. I believe that
- 6:51spirits use these portals. And I say spirits, not the flesh and blood.
- 6:59And I think that you know, if you go to the to the
- 7:03Nephelum theory and the Nephelim saying just saying, you know, it's all opinionated.
- 7:10Nobody really knows for sure of it. We have to speculate. But
- 7:13if it is from the Nephelum, then the blood of the Nephelim would be
- 7:18kind of like a blood line of the fallen of the demons. So there
- 7:24would be a connection between the flesh and blood and the spirit, the same
- 7:29as there would be a connection between a cultist person and a demon spirit.
- 7:33There would be that connection. And I think what happens is they say and
- 7:40approximately twenty five of all flesh and blood encounters that people will experience a paranormal
- 7:46activity at their house. And I believe that to be true because and I
- 7:50do too, because it happened at my grannies. You know, she had
- 7:55and then she also had the other side of it, which was the spiritual,
- 8:00and she told us, she said, some of this is flesh and
- 8:01blood some of this isn't you know so, and that's what made me start
- 8:07thinking. I thought, you know, and then of course a lot of
- 8:09my study, everybody knows it's based biblically. So I went by the principles
- 8:13of Jesus talking about behold, you know, I stand at the door.
- 8:16Every time there was a portal created God with control of that portal. And
- 8:22then you know, people talk about the manifestation of a demon to solid and
- 8:28God took that they were stricting from that ability after they had made it with
- 8:33the humans. That was part of their disembodied punishment is they were disembodied at
- 8:37that point, and he put between their seed and the human flesh where there
- 8:41could be no more procreation between the demons and the humans. And it went
- 8:46really deep. And I'm still digging. Yeah, I'm still digging, and
- 8:50you know, it goes really deep, and a lot of this is biblical.
- 8:54Jesus spoke, you know that they had to separate that, and you
- 8:56know, there the spiritual world is stronger than what people think. I have
- 9:01a buddy right now. It just went and helped the lady at her house,
- 9:05and the physical part of it they eliminated. But his buddy had a
- 9:11spiritual part come home with him and they just got rid of it. They
- 9:16had to get a priest to get rid of it. It got really bad.
- 9:20Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. Okay, Well then,
- 9:24okay, so this this was kind of blowing my mind the other night because
- 9:28I was thinking, Um, we're all wondering like, well, what are
- 9:31what is dog Man? For instance? You know, um, some people
- 9:33say it is nephelim okay, Uh, that they're fallen angels or something,
- 9:39or you know, they're they're they're products of fallen angels. But when you
- 9:45were talking about the demonic entities taking over or wanting to get in the bodies
- 9:50of swine, right of pigs, I was it was like, wow,
- 9:54well that would make sense. And this is listen, everybody's watching today.
- 9:58This is just us discussing. This. Doesn't mean that we think we're right
- 10:01or wrong. It's it's just a discussion about this and throwing ideas out there,
- 10:05right, Mike, Yeah, it's just it's just an opinion. It's
- 10:11it's just a thought, right, It's just our thoughts on it, um
- 10:13um. And so, and that's what I like to do. I'd like
- 10:16to make people think okay and get everybody to kind of put your thinking caps
- 10:18on, Like Barry Littleton said, it's food for thought. Okay, Um,
- 10:24but you know there are I personally have witnessed, Um what what I
- 10:30would assume or what I what I said was what I think, UM was
- 10:35maybe something very dark, like a dark density jumping from person to person around
- 10:39me. At one point in my life, where I was sometimes the person
- 10:45that you love the most is the one that's after you ain't gonna hurt you,
- 10:48you know what I mean, that kind of a thing. And uh,
- 10:50and I was experiencing that at one point in my life. And when
- 10:54I removed myself from that situation, I noticed it was almost like the same
- 10:58spirit that had been inside that person went to maybe a family member and maybe
- 11:03to a friend, you know. And so I noticed that I had to
- 11:07start separating myself from the world and go into hermit mode to protect myself from
- 11:11that because it was almost like a it's like that movie with Denzel Washington in
- 11:15it where the spirit jumps from body to body. Well, I've experienced that
- 11:20before in real life, and so and I think a lot of people have.
- 11:26If you're aware enough, you can see it. That's funny. It's
- 11:33seeing what you saw. That dark figure that you're talking about. It actually
- 11:37what got me saved at the age of sixteen. I see what you're talking
- 11:41about, so I know exactly what you're talking about, and it scared the
- 11:48hell out of me. It's actually literally scared the hell out of me.
- 11:52I got saved after I've seen that. But I know what you're talking about,
- 11:56and it does it. It's dark and it has a heavy feeling.
- 12:03I had a really heavy feeling when it was just unsettling. It was it
- 12:05was wild. Yeah, well it's it's scary because you don't you think you
- 12:11get away from it, and then it shows up and let's say, like
- 12:13your best friend. I'm not saying my best friends were possessed, y'all.
- 12:16I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Okay, I love all
- 12:20my friends out there, but I'm just saying for an example, you know,
- 12:24um, you think you get away from it, and that's that's why
- 12:26it's important, especially when you're going on your spiritual journey, to go into
- 12:31like a hermit mode and kind of separate yourself from the world for a little
- 12:33while, just to be safe. Okay, Just to be real, that's
- 12:37really really cool that you're saying that, because I spoke to a guy yesterday
- 12:43very knowledgeable in the Bible, and what you're saying. He was talking about,
- 12:46you know, the fallen ones, the demons. They have always been
- 12:52here. They know everything in the past. They were here, they lived
- 12:56faith, seen it. You know. They everything about you too, right,
- 13:01want to come at you. Yeah, and about your dad, your
- 13:03mom, whoever's gone in your life. They know your traumas, yes,
- 13:09and they and they poke it your traumas. And so imagine if they can
- 13:11get into the body, let's say, of a dog man. Okay,
- 13:16now that we're gonna we're gonna try to bring this full circle to day,
- 13:18right, because imagine if they if there are demonic entities out there, and
- 13:22I have experienced something it was very dark in my life more than once.
- 13:26Okay. And uh and someone's like I watched it as it seemed to go
- 13:31from person to person, Okay, and imagine if these things can latch onto
- 13:35something so ferocious potentially ferocious. I'm not saying all dogmen are bad, okay
- 13:41or ferocious, we don't know. Um, I've heard of some very docile
- 13:46encounters with them, many many more of those than I've I've heard of the
- 13:50attacks. Um, but but just say they can hop into the body of
- 13:54a dog man or a big foot, or anything any kind of crypted,
- 13:58any anything that has flesh and bone, Okay, flesh and blood, sometimes
- 14:01a heartbeat, Okay, even a lozard man whatever, Yeah, exactly anything
- 14:09a cat. I've had, I've had some crazy cats. Okay, but
- 14:13imagine if it can and they are they can't be possessed like that. I
- 14:18mean, if it can happen to humans, it can happen to them too,
- 14:20right, Mike, what do you think? Yeah, definitely. Whenever
- 14:24Jesus cast the demons out of the person, they beged, Jesus, can
- 14:28we go into the swine? And you know, they went into the pigs
- 14:30and the pigs were possessed, so that shows animal possession, you know.
- 14:35And like I was talking about the other day with my friend, he was
- 14:37like, if they could manifest into a solid body, they would have had
- 14:41no reason to beg Jesus, can we please go into the swine. They
- 14:45would have just manifested into a solid body and moved about. But they were
- 14:48so uncomfortable outside of a body that they wanted a body so bad. And
- 14:54you know, that's why I think the dog man theory that I have is
- 14:58they're a cat to that bloodline and whenever you you know, Satan the greatest
- 15:05deceiver. I mean, if we go out into the woods and we're carrying
- 15:07sensitive gear, sensitive you know, machines that we're using trying to pick up
- 15:13you know, lower movement, they're out there too. We don't know less
- 15:18say there was trillions of angels in and a third of those, you know,
- 15:20we're kicked out of heaven, so that could be no telling how and
- 15:24they're going to take I think that opportunity to manifest in our equipment and to
- 15:30play tricks on us, because that is their job, is to be deceiving.
- 15:33I mean, even Lucifer, you know, he took on the light
- 15:37as Jesus did. He tried to look like the light. But Jesus always
- 15:41reminded us, you know that even though he does it, what he does
- 15:45is generic. It is never the real thing. But he's a deceiver.
- 15:48And I think we have to be careful because I think that there's a connection
- 15:52between these and those working together. And that's why I said, you know,
- 15:58when I go out, I always pray to get rid of the spirit
- 16:02part. That way, I'm just dealing with the physical part, you know,
- 16:03the part that I can deal with. Well, that's so that's you
- 16:07know, I well, and that's a stance that my team takes too.
- 16:11We're out there to deal with the physical whatever happens, right, But I'm
- 16:15a very spiritual person, and I also take precaution to protect myself spiritually when
- 16:21we go out in the field, and so do my teammates. Shoot Bob,
- 16:25he carries like crystals in his pockets and stuff just to get He's like,
- 16:27just whatever it takes. He's like, I don't know. Uh,
- 16:30you know, Nick Valente has talked to me about how he carries black salt
- 16:33and things like that. It's almost like superstitious kind of stuff. But on
- 16:37a spiritual level, anything to protect us is okay with me, okay,
- 16:44because we don't know what can attach to us. You know, there there
- 16:47could be you know, I've come home and I've had orbs that followed me
- 16:51home that ended up dancing around my son. I have a video of it
- 16:56of orbs around my child. Now what were those orbs? I don't know,
- 17:00um, but they were there, you know, right, and my
- 17:03son seen an orb the night the night before my mom was hit with a
- 17:07rock, there was an orbit heard and then really and then she was yeah,
- 17:11she was struck with the rock after it happened. And you know,
- 17:15that's why I think that there there is annection. Um. I think that
- 17:21they may be connected them, you know, just it's all, you know,
- 17:26a theory. But possibly because of the blood, because the blood would
- 17:30still be the same. It's just one has a body and the others this
- 17:33and and maybe maybe the twenty five follow them. Maybe they are the ones
- 17:40that possess them, that cause these rages, the LBL and stuff like that.
- 17:45Maybe that is you know what happens. Yeah, yeah, that's why.
- 17:49You know, it's all A lot of this has to do a frequency,
- 17:52energy, vibration. Um. That's why I always say this, Mike,
- 17:59I'm all telling everybody and raise your vibrational frequency. Be part of my
- 18:02high vibe tribe, you know, because when you are on a higher vibration,
- 18:07when you have um, let's just say, like dealing with your karma
- 18:11and things like that. And I know this is on a spiritual level,
- 18:15but this is a spiritual war that we're in right now, in my opinion,
- 18:18and just life in general right now. And I don't know how cryptids
- 18:22you're playing into all of this, but I do know that they're they're spiritual
- 18:26battles going on right now, and and you're less likely to be prone to
- 18:32having some sort of negative attachment or entity trying to mess with you when you
- 18:37have a high vibration Okay, when you're happy and you are living your best
- 18:42life and just trying to deal with your you know, do you deal with
- 18:47your traumas and stuff so that nothing has a that end like something to to
- 18:52lash onto, like a demon can't like suck your blood dry, you know,
- 18:56so to speak. Because you have an alcohol problem or drug addiction,
- 19:02or any kind of addiction, okay, they are even even like depression.
- 19:07We all get depressed. But but you know, it's best to deal with
- 19:11that kind of stuff, get some therapy, you know, things like that,
- 19:15so that you don't get brought down and attached to these lower vibrational frequencies
- 19:19and energies that maybe dog Man has. I don't know, I don't know.
- 19:26I think yeah, I just think it's interesting, you know, I
- 19:30think, you know, and another reason I thought of that is because I
- 19:33know what my grainies they lived with it ever and then I grew up with
- 19:37it with my cousins, and I know there was a spiritual part of it,
- 19:41and there was a flesh and blood part of it. They found a
- 19:44twenty two inch footprint that was one of the biggest footprints. They found a
- 19:47barefoot twenty two inch footprint. And but then also you have this man wearing
- 19:55a white tshirt. He's balding on top with white gray hair on the side,
- 19:59and he his body stops it just below his waist if he floats through
- 20:02the field. And then everybody's asleep in the bedroom and they hear what sounds
- 20:08like beans or peas or something spills all across the floor. It sounds like
- 20:12this, you know, this terrible mess. Everybody jumps up, runs to
- 20:18the kitchen. There's nothing there. So I mean, there was things that
- 20:22happened that had to be spiritual. And then you know, later on my
- 20:26uncle been the honoring uncle that he was, They found Auiji board in his
- 20:32room, and of course Grandma attributed a lot of that to Theuiji board.
- 20:37And they burnt the Ouiji board. And then after they had burnt the Ouiji
- 20:41board. They found it back out in the garden. It had been like
- 20:47burnt, but it was still pretty much intact, and they ended up having
- 20:52to burn it twice. So I know there is a spiritual aspect to it.
- 20:56I just, I just I think. But what I guess, what
- 21:00I was trying to say is I believe that one stays one and the other
- 21:04one stays what to do, the same as Jesus said, flesh is flesh,
- 21:07spirit is spirit. You cannot be both. So wow, I believe
- 21:11that if if it's a spirit you're dealing with, it's a spirit. If
- 21:15you're dealing with flesh and blood, you're dealing with the flesh and blood part
- 21:17of it. We don't have the ability to go in between. He says
- 21:21he was the only one able to do that. Yeah, that's and that's
- 21:26why it's so interesting because I'm I'm still trying to figure all this out myself,
- 21:30and with all the research that I do, I just seem like I
- 21:32know less and less the more research I'm doing on it. And I mean
- 21:37even with like alien abductions and things like that. Mike, it's a little
- 21:41you know, people ask me all the time, or aliens demons. Okay,
- 21:47I've got very littleton in the chat. Hey, Barry, he talks
- 21:49about this kind of stuff a good bit. And uh. And I was
- 21:52talking to my friend Jesus last night. Jesus, not Jesus Christ, Jesus,
- 21:57pyann Ju and you're goal and uh if I talk to Jesus too though,
- 22:02Okay, but yeah, I was talking to Jesus and he said we
- 22:04were talking about the alien demon connection, right, And I mean aliens could
- 22:11be demons, right, Demons could be aliens. It's just all about perspective.
- 22:15And uh, you know talking about people having these uh yeah, uh
- 22:22it's it's like people are having these like abduction experiences and stuff. So is
- 22:27it taking their physical bodies or they taking their astral body? I mean,
- 22:30I don't know. It's so confusing, right, I think that aliens or
- 22:37demons. Um I spoke We also spoke about that, and he was talking.
- 22:41He said, this is how, this is how he imagines it,
- 22:44and this is his only his this is his perspective, how he the firmament.
- 22:48Okay. He said, picture earth as prison for the for the demons.
- 22:53Also because God casts them, you know, out of heaven to Earth.
- 22:56So the Earth is their prison. The firmament is their their wall,
- 23:02their electric fence. They can't leave it. God says there is nothing new
- 23:04under the sun. So he says, they are trapped here. Also,
- 23:10this is their punishment, and that's why they have free run of the earth.
- 23:14Right now. We have free will, but they also have free will,
- 23:18you know. And he said, you know, they can come to
- 23:21you in any form that we allow them to come to this And he said,
- 23:25that's that's the big thing, is what we allow them to do.
- 23:30He said, if you go into the field and you say, I'm looking
- 23:33for, you know, a portal, or I'm looking for, you know,
- 23:40my dad that deceased. You know, if I'm trying to connect with
- 23:42him, he said, he can show up. It ain't really him,
- 23:48but they'll have all the knowledge of your dad. Because we have to remember
- 23:55they're already eternal. They have been here from the beginning. And he said
- 24:00trickery. Just like a magician. It is their job to trick you and
- 24:04deceive you long enough for the enemy to win your soul. So the only
- 24:11power that having against us is what we allow them to have. And you
- 24:17know, he asked me, he said, have you ever been spoke to
- 24:18you know, mind spoken, and I said no, And I made a
- 24:22note though he went into it. He said that it says in the Bible
- 24:27that God did not make men able to communicate with their minds, but the
- 24:33demons did so. He said, if we allow it, and we go
- 24:37out and open ourselves up to that, sure they can do that. But
- 24:41see, I never allowed that, And whenever I would go out, I
- 24:44would always and say, I don't give you any authority over me. I
- 24:47am covered in the blood of Jesus. I you know I'm already bought.
- 24:49I was bought by the blood of Jesus. I'm his property. I was
- 24:53paid for it across at Calvary. And it's never happened here in my family.
- 25:00But I do know people that's went out and opened themselves up to that.
- 25:03And I had a friend he was a Christian, big time Christian,
- 25:07went to church every Sunday. Everything he went out and he started his own
- 25:11investigative team. And now he's into the Colts and doesn't believe in Jesus.
- 25:18And he's a very dark person, and a lot of bad things have been
- 25:21happening to him. He's had a lot of bad health issues and I mean
- 25:26he drinks chicken blood. I mean he drinks it. Yes, that what
- 25:32people do. I don't know. I think I think he just went he
- 25:38went overboard. He just totally and his wife left him. He lost his
- 25:42wife and kids. I mean, he lost his family. He was a
- 25:47good officer, he lost his job. I mean, he just just got
- 25:52sucked in. Maybe maybe he got an attachment, you know, one of
- 25:55these entities. That's what That's what we thought, Yeah, a demonic force.
- 25:59I mean drink and chicken blood. I don't know. I mean,
- 26:00I like, I like to eat chicken, but I'm not gonna drink this
- 26:03blood. Sorry, chicken like every day? Okay, so uh, I
- 26:08mean and I and when I you know, a long time ago, I
- 26:11tried to barbecue chicken heart one time. It was a Brazilian delicacy, Okay,
- 26:15and it was it was actually not bad. But I'm not drinking the
- 26:18blood. So but anyways, I like the heart and stuff, but it's
- 26:22got to be well done. Yeah, I like, I like livers occasionally
- 26:26they're cooked, right, you know. Um, but anyways, oh my
- 26:30god, oh my gosh. Right, um okay, so but but but
- 26:38this is how we can have the potential to invite negative attachments in I like
- 26:42to see negative attachment. Some people can say demons, uh, some kind
- 26:47of demonic force perhaps, Uh is by opening yourself up to it and doing
- 26:51rituals and things like that. Um. Now I'm not saying all of these,
- 26:56you know, rituals are all like Weuiji boards are connecting with the dead
- 27:00or whatever or going to bring on negative attachments. But you can obviously open
- 27:04yourself up to it, especially if you're on a lower vibration like I talk
- 27:07about. Uh, if you if you have not dealt with your traumas in
- 27:11your life and things like that. Um, that's that's when they can't attach
- 27:15to you a little bit easier. Okay, I'd like to think I have
- 27:18the armor of God on every day. Okay, and uh and I I
- 27:22I everything bounces right off of me. Okay, so uh, yes,
- 27:26don't try me. Okay, everybody right, but um but yeah, it's
- 27:33but but using like a Weiji board, I mean that's pretty that's pretty scary
- 27:36finding a Weigi board. I don't use wegi boards. I've used one one
- 27:38time when I was fifteen, and it scared the crap out of me.
- 27:42And I never touched another one after that. Um but yeah, that that
- 27:48that's that's what happens. We don't want to invite all this stuff in uh
- 27:52but uh but yeah, I think that's interesting. Getting back to the dogman
- 27:56topic on all of this, uh is you know, I mean, Mike,
- 28:00you've probably heard stories and you you have your own stories about your house
- 28:03where Domin was not always like out to attack you and stuff. But do
- 28:07you think that they could have been demonic? Honestly, I don't believe they
- 28:14were. Um. I believe that they were flesh and blood. I hate
- 28:22to say animal because their intelligence is so much higher than what Whenever I think
- 28:27of an animal, I like to think of maybe maybe a different species.
- 28:33They're a hominin, you know, they they they're they're a lot smarter than
- 28:37any animal. I mean, they're able to speak, they're able to you
- 28:40know, they know how to turn door knobs. They they know to hide.
- 28:45They scary, you know, just like the one at the back of
- 28:49my granny's house. You know, it was standing eating scraps, and whenever
- 28:53he came, you know, my friend, my mom's friend came around the
- 28:56house, it just looked at him and turned his head kind of sideways and
- 29:00it said hello, it's a bird of English. That is so crazy.
- 29:07Yes, oh my gosh. And I mean and it said my mom's name.
- 29:10You know, it called my mom's name through the air conditioner. It
- 29:12would call her my god and my granny's name, and it was I mean,
- 29:18I'm not gonna lie. When we were younger, we were so scared
- 29:22sometimes, you know, we would want to call our dads and say come
- 29:25and get us. We didn't. We didn't want to be there. Um
- 29:30no, I wouldn't want to be there either. I would either that.
- 29:32That's just really terrifying. Uh, it's kind of taunting you guys in a
- 29:37way. Yeah. So I had a high level of intelligence but not not
- 29:41quite human, but not not a dog either, right do you think,
- 29:48oh, go ahead. Oh, It's just it's just like they kind of
- 29:52I don't know if they're maybe curious to what you're doing in the home,
- 29:59because you know that they would window peak and but then you would hear him
- 30:03push on the window and it's like they would try to and they would make
- 30:07sure you know that your doors. I don't know if you know, if
- 30:11they would have came in, if it wouldn't have been locked. I know
- 30:12when I went to the bathroom that night, it hit the door and turned
- 30:15the door knob, and it hit the door really hard, like several times,
- 30:18like it was really going to try to come in. And it scared
- 30:23everybody. I mean, we ended up calling the whole family, and luckily
- 30:26my family lives close. We have a big family, and they all came
- 30:27down and starts spotlighting, and it was just it happened all the time.
- 30:32And what's weird my grandma passed away, my mom. They thought it was
- 30:37after my mom more than it was anybody. And after she had passed away,
- 30:41my aunt now lives on the property. But after my grandma passed away
- 30:45and my mom left, nothing's there now. Nothing. Do you think that
- 30:52it had an attachment to It was had an almost like an attachment to your
- 30:56grandmother in some way, like an emotional attached even I mean, why why
- 31:00do you think that is? I think my grandmother and my mom. If
- 31:04I ta take my mom fishing, even last year, we get down there
- 31:08deep enough, it'll bother her every year, and it probably will this year
- 31:12when we go. Um, just just something about all and then the kids,
- 31:18you know, it loves to play with the kids. And that's another
- 31:21thing. You know, it really bothers me, is how it mess.
- 31:23It does interact with the kids. It'll throw pebbles at them and little sticks
- 31:27at them, and it'll make it you know, baby crying noises, it's
- 31:30cat noises. And you'll walking, I mean it'll walk. You'll see it
- 31:36walking. A matter of fact, an Oklahoma team is coming down Saturday.
- 31:40I'm supposed to meet with and I'm going to home one of these zones that
- 31:42they're going to go down too, and they're not going to be disappointed.
- 31:48Oh. I can't wait to hear about that. That's you're gonna to give
- 31:51us a live report on that one. Yeah, okay, I do have
- 31:59a comment. This is Tony He's actually one of my teammates that goes out
- 32:02in the field with me. Tony Green, he's actually a biblical scholar as
- 32:06well, Mike. Uh. He says, I have the same opinion the
- 32:08aliens are demons and vice versa. Uh. And and and that leads me
- 32:14to a point is that you know, I talked to a lot of other
- 32:17people who are contactees with aliens, and I mean I've had contact myself.
- 32:22Uh and uh And I question like what aliens are at this point and the
- 32:27ones that I've seen. Also, they say that some people say that when
- 32:30they rebuke the aliens in the name of Jesus, they go away. Have
- 32:36you heard that? Yes? Uh, like again, you know they they
- 32:44tony, I agree that there is deception, Satan, you know again,
- 32:51he made himself look like the light to look like Jesus. It's all deception.
- 32:57It's what are do can get you to believe that they are what they're
- 33:00not or what you need them to be. Um, I don't know.
- 33:06I just have a real strong feeling about spiritually, you know, like me
- 33:09when I whenever I go, the only thing I take with me is just
- 33:14the word of the Word of God. I don't carry stones. I'm not
- 33:16super uh, you know, I don't believe in superstition. Um. I
- 33:22was taught you know, superstition, you know, is a sin. And
- 33:27I just go with the word of God. I pray. Um. I
- 33:30just you know, I go with confidence that I've already been bought, you
- 33:32know, on the cross, and they can't touch me as long as I
- 33:37don't allow it. Now, I do believe that you can allow it,
- 33:40and you can put yourself in that situation to where you know, even Jesus,
- 33:45you know, was tempted by Satan, you know, and he can
- 33:49tempt us if I just I just don't allow it. Um, I don't
- 33:52give them that power, you know. That's what That's what my friend Craig
- 33:57told me. Craig Jackson's on my team too, he does big footing with
- 34:00me, and uh, and he told me when we've we've had conversations about,
- 34:06you know, not watching those ghost hunting shows. Okay, because the
- 34:08ghost hunting shows that I was watching, there's one. I only watched one
- 34:13and it was my favorite and uh, but they started getting very dark and
- 34:16demonic and uh, and I felt as though perhaps something could come through my
- 34:21television into my home, Like the TV's a portal in my opinion, Okay,
- 34:25that's a that's an actual portal into your home, into everybody's living rooms,
- 34:30their bedrooms, their kitchens. Um. And so I quit watching that
- 34:34show. Well, Craig, Craig ensured me. He said, well,
- 34:37nope, He's like, nothing's going to come through your home if you if
- 34:39you don't allow it. And that was I thought that was a really good
- 34:43point that he had. You know, you don't believe it, you rebuke
- 34:45it, just say you're not coming into my home, you know. And
- 34:49he's like, you can watch it all you want, just don't don't have
- 34:52that thought in your head that it's going to come into your home, is
- 34:53what he said. So I thought that was interesting. But yeah, because
- 34:58the only power at as is what you give it. You know. The
- 35:00preacher was telling me yesterday, was talking about you know, Jesus even you
- 35:04know, he talked to the to the fortune tellers, and he said that
- 35:07anything that went beyond them to come to him because he could give us the
- 35:12clear truth and not a deception, not a trickery, not because he you
- 35:16know, he says the enemy awaits. He always awaits. He's waiting like
- 35:21a lion, you know. And when we opened up to that, he
- 35:24can show us things that really make us. You know. A weird story
- 35:29that happened to me. It was we lived in a house and I was
- 35:32young. I believed in the tooth Ferry, and this house was haunted and
- 35:39this what I thought was the tooth Faerry came out of the closet wearing a
- 35:45red robe, lifted my head and I thought, put money under my pillow.
- 35:51The next morning, I woke up and the money was still there,
- 35:54and of course I went and told my mom. I was like, well,
- 35:57the tooth faerry came, but I didn't get no money, you know.
- 35:59And then later on we had moved back and we were talking to another
- 36:02guy that had bought the house, and he said, my daughter will not
- 36:06sleep in that first bedroom on the left because she sees a lady in a
- 36:09red dress in there. And we had not talked to this guy. So
- 36:14I looked at my dad and I was like, I told you there was
- 36:16something in there, you know. And they made me stay in there because
- 36:20they didn't believe I was seeing anything, but yeah, there was something in
- 36:22there. Oh that's terrifying. Well, so you didn't get any money for
- 36:27your tooth or did this that thing steal? It just trauma, Just trauma
- 36:34that loose that tooth for some trauma. Huh. It didn't take the tooth
- 36:37or nothing. And you know, it was weird that it done that,
- 36:39you know. I was like, why why would it do that? You
- 36:43know? And I thought about that for a long time. Why would it
- 36:45do that, you know, because I was expecting that maybe because I allowed
- 36:49that, I don't know. It was really weird. Well you know we
- 36:53well, I guess the tooth fair is kind of a supernatural, elemental kind
- 36:58of type of thing, you know, so when you're expecting, I mean,
- 37:00I feel as I like, I manifest situations for myself and things like
- 37:04that. So I have to be very careful what I think and uh and
- 37:07what I do believe, and I you know, I'm a very open minded
- 37:10person. So the whole world is my oyster. Okay. So um,
- 37:15that's why I have such strange and I have such strange things happen in my
- 37:17life, I guess. And speaking of strange, Hey, Fred, Fred
- 37:21and Alaska's in the chat today. Everybody please go subscribe to his channel.
- 37:24It's a Subarctic Alaska sasquatch. Fred's got some great videos up there on a
- 37:30big foot in the hairy Man up there. So y'all, Hey Fred,
- 37:34I'll be in touch soon. I want you on my show again, Okay.
- 37:36So yeah, um, but yeah, this is this is a fascinating
- 37:40conversation, Mike, because um, you know, it kind of gives us
- 37:45a different view on some of these things that are going on in the supernatural
- 37:51world stuff. I have a view for you. It was given me,
- 37:53and I'm still thinking about it. I spoke of a full blood Cherokee the
- 37:59other day and we were speaking about the dog men and man. He had
- 38:05some information that blew my mind. His his his thing on it, and
- 38:09this is his what he says, the dog man, the wherewhe the goog
- 38:15way, bigfoot Sasquatch. He says, they're all the same. And I
- 38:22said, what do you mean? I said, how how are they the
- 38:24same? And he says, a dog, a poodle, a little bitty
- 38:30dog, a German shepherd, you know, all those? He said.
- 38:34They have different colors, different snouts, different sizes, They live in different
- 38:39regions. They look different because they have to to adapt where they live.
- 38:44There's something you know, a pug, he says, A pug has no
- 38:45snout. A German shepherd has a snout. He said, they're all related.
- 38:52And I thought, wow, you know, I never I never thought
- 38:54of it that way. A pug, you know, to a German shepherd,
- 38:59you know. And he said, you know, they're all built differently.
- 39:00You know, your bulldogs are a biggerler. And then you know you
- 39:05got your you know, the skinnier dogs, you know. And I thought,
- 39:08you know, people, if you listen to some of people's stories.
- 39:12Some say, you know, it had a rottweiler's head, and some will
- 39:15say, well it had like a doberman's head. So it kind of got
- 39:17me, you know. I know, I don't want any of it looking
- 39:21in the window at me. But well you've already had that before, You've
- 39:23had them talking to you through the to your AC unit stuff. So I
- 39:28think I'm fixing to do a solo camping trip down there. Oh, no
- 39:34solo. So yeah, I'm going to loone. Yeah, it's the closest
- 39:39house on GPS is ten miles. Oh my gosh. And okay, I
- 39:44hope you're going to video that, and uh, make sure at least we
- 39:47know what happened to you, Okay, something to happen. Yeah, yeah,
- 39:52and get yeah, get your get your Baio fun radio out and have
- 39:57somebody back back at base camp somewhere keep in touch with you, because that
- 40:00could be very dangerous. That's something that my team does. We do not
- 40:05go anywhere by ourselves because we have just experienced too much craziness out in the
- 40:09field. Um and so we know we know how dangerous that can be.
- 40:14So some results though, yeah, I don't recommend anybody do it. But
- 40:19we're I'm going to where I've done a video to where the guy's truck was
- 40:22attacked and damaged, where it actually tried to get inside his tent. So
- 40:29I want to go there and spend the day, cook and stuff, stay
- 40:31the night and see what happens. Yeah, what did he think got tried
- 40:36to get in his tent? He think it was a dog man? Yeah,
- 40:39he had. He allowed me to photograph his truck. He had a
- 40:43huge dent inside of a nice truck and then he had a huge hand print
- 40:46on the back of his window. And he said it walked around their tent
- 40:52and then like tried to get into the door and they he said, we're
- 40:55never coming back. So that's where I'm going to see. Well, we'll
- 41:01see. Yeah. Well, you know that's the interesting because I was just
- 41:06talking to my buddy Tyler yesterday down in Florida, Tyler Howell he Um.
- 41:10We were talking about going out big footing, and I told him we were
- 41:14talking about taking the kids and things like that. He's got a he's got
- 41:16a son. I've got a son that are about the same ages, and
- 41:19I've told him I've taken my son out for a one one night for an
- 41:22overnighter. But what I did was, instead of sleeping in the tenth we
- 41:28set up camp in the truck, like in the back of my Forerunner.
- 41:31Okay, so we were we just made a palette back there and we locked
- 41:35the doors and it was very safe, okay. And um, and I'm
- 41:37not used to doing that. I'm used to being out in a tent um
- 41:42out in the middle of nowhere, okay, And so it felt very safe
- 41:45being inside that truck with my kid that night. I'm going to start camping
- 41:49out in my truck whenever I can from here on out. I do that.
- 41:52I do that. I have a I have a dingo, and I'll
- 41:53camp in the back of it. Yeah, sometimes if I know it's a
- 41:57real hot spot. Yeah, because I mean, you don't want to be
- 42:00asleep in the middle of the night and just you know, a little piece
- 42:02of fabric separating it. And another thing that the Indian told me that I
- 42:07didn't think about. I'm Cherokee and he told me, he said, you
- 42:09know that you're not supposed to call him dog man. You know. I
- 42:14said why And he said, because dog man is not what they are.
- 42:17That is the white Man's name for him, he said, the British and
- 42:22over in Britain and England and all. He said, they always called him
- 42:25the werewolf, and the Indians always knew him as the sasquatch, and he's
- 42:30he's then went back what he said before. He said, you know,
- 42:35they are both and the same. And whenever I would, you know,
- 42:38try to ask him about well, what about you know, people saying that
- 42:42you know, the dog man has no tell and you know, and he
- 42:45said, you know some bulldogs have no tell. Try some Yes, he
- 42:52would not have the separation. He said, they are the same. Interesting
- 42:58because we from what I have the research I have've done, they're totally different.
- 43:01They look similar, but they're they're different species. And they have the
- 43:06legs, have the structure different and uh and and they're some people say they're
- 43:10mortal enemies, you know. And some people say they work in tandem together
- 43:15with big foots so or sasquatch or yeah. I don't know. That's interesting
- 43:20though, because somebody in the in the chat was saying that dogmen are wearabolves.
- 43:23Now we're even taught in the research I've done, wearaboleves are different than
- 43:28dogmen. That's what I was thought, that's what I was. He justn't
- 43:32have it. And I know, you know when it rise down at the
- 43:35lake and we saw those you know that stood up on their hind legs,
- 43:38they were comfortable. I mean how they done it. They didn't act like,
- 43:43you know, it was awkward or you know, you've heard about the
- 43:45dog I had in my front room that was possessed. I mean he walked
- 43:50yeah, oh yeah, that was crazy. He didn't have any trouble walking.
- 43:55Do you do you want to mention that story so people will know what
- 43:58we're talking about, or no, is it perfect? No, it's fine,
- 44:01Well don't don't. Don't don't tell the very end of that story.
- 44:05Just tell the tell the part about your living room. Yeah, just got
- 44:08up one night. We went down the hallway and my dog was walking around
- 44:14in the front room and on his two legs, right, yeah, yeah,
- 44:17it's just like I would be. And I was like, what in
- 44:21the world. So I went back and got my wife at the time,
- 44:22and I was like, come here, and she's like what what. I'm
- 44:27like, no, you come here and look at it. So she walks
- 44:28in the hall and she's like, oh my god, put him outside.
- 44:31And I was like, that is so weird, and yeah it was bad.
- 44:37It was weird. And you said it had a smile on his face
- 44:39too. Yeah, it was just and you know, we thought we were
- 44:44crazy. It was like, you know, but it kept doing it and
- 44:46we gave it to the neighbors and they agreed that it was possessed. They
- 44:53got rid of it. Well, well, you ended up giving it to
- 44:58the neighbors and then they had the same issue with it too, and then
- 45:00they thought that there it was possessed or something. But okay, to be
- 45:05fair, you had a lot of dogman activity around your property out there,
- 45:08do you think I mean, what if they're what if it could have been
- 45:13Okay, this would make sense if we're going by the demonic forces jumping from
- 45:16body to body, right, what if it had gotten into your dog inside
- 45:21your home. I'm just saying, we're just we're just theories out there,
- 45:25right, And I think it's a good theory because if if those oh my
- 45:30god, you know, are followed by spirits, why would one of those
- 45:35spirits not attack or possess another animal? Wow? I think so, I
- 45:43mean, it just kind of makes sense when we're putting all these stories together,
- 45:47and we're just putting our head our thoughts together. I was gonna say
- 45:51our heads together and thoughts together. And if you really think about it,
- 45:55how scary it could be. I mean think about say you have this little
- 45:59dog and it goes outside to the bathroom. So the spirit goes inside of
- 46:04this little dog. It comes into your house, It sees everything in your
- 46:07house, it sees you, it hears you, and then is able to
- 46:10go back outside. And yeah, it jumps back. I mean they can
- 46:19jump from person to person or whatever. It's best to put your dog outside
- 46:22if it's going to be walking on its hind legs, yeah, jump into
- 46:25the cat or something. I don't know. Just stay out of mind.
- 46:29Yes, that's why you're gonna have a high vibe, high vibe tribe.
- 46:31Or you know, it comes in and wants to lay in your lap.
- 46:37Oof, you know the dog. Yeah, it's going to hop into your
- 46:40lap or sleep by your legs. Oh. It comes in and you don't
- 46:44pay no attention. You go to bed and it lays in the end of
- 46:45the bed with you. You don't know. I never thought of that.
- 46:50That's a whole different I mean, well, it's it's stuff that it's just
- 46:55food for thought. As Barry says, who's in the chat today is food
- 46:58for thought, And we're just kind of putting it out there because there's really
- 47:00no other explanation as to why your dog would just be let's just say,
- 47:05like lollygagging around in your front living room in the middle of the night with
- 47:07a smile on his face, and then when it realized that you were awake,
- 47:12it went down on all fours and acted like a normal dog again.
- 47:15And if you tried to say Jesus, they'd try to bite you. Oh
- 47:19it did. Yeah, every time. You know, I told you the
- 47:23people we gave it to, Yeah, it was a bad deal. It
- 47:27was my actually for the dog. Actually, I was talking to my ex
- 47:30wife the other day and she was like, that was the scary and I
- 47:34mean, she got so scared. I wish I could get her on to
- 47:36tell y'all. She was so afraid. At that point, I was working
- 47:39nights. I just started working, and she was so afraid that she actually
- 47:45went and sat at my dispatch office all night because she would not go to
- 47:49our home. That's how bad it died. She would not go to our
- 47:52house. She wouldn't stay there. Alone. She would stay there and talk
- 47:54to you know, my dispatch friends all night. She's like, I'm not
- 48:00blamer. Yeah, yeah, you know. Well, my my favorite children's
- 48:04book as a kid was about dogs in a circus and uh and just like
- 48:08Strange Land saying a friend's poodle would walk around and walk and hop like a
- 48:12circus animal, and some dogs do that. Nick Valente was telling me a
- 48:15story about his dog doing that, his rock boiler. I think it would,
- 48:21but he did it on command, I think, so it wasn't just
- 48:23in the middle of the night in a dark room by itself. Um.
- 48:28But my favorite book was about the circus dogs that would hop on two legs
- 48:30and they wore two twos and clown outfits and all that stuff. So you
- 48:35know, um, so it sounds like it sounds like a good time,
- 48:37like a party to me, but at the same time, it seems kind
- 48:39of scary at the same time having your dog doing that. Yeah. Well,
- 48:47well, I think, yeah, absolutely if it started wearing a two
- 48:53two, okay, But but when you think about the energy and the land
- 49:00you have there with all the dog foot or the dogman dog foot, I
- 49:04just combine a dog man and big foot together. The dogman activity out there,
- 49:09and we're talking about a potential energy jumping from one or a demonic force,
- 49:15dark energy, whatever you want to call it, jumping from one thing
- 49:19to another, Okay, one being to another. It would make sense that
- 49:22that could be a theory, you know, as to why your dog was
- 49:25doing that. So and Rainy always told us, you know, she'd say,
- 49:30you know, there's a big foot and a dog man, and she
- 49:31would, you know, she would always tell us, I don't believe the
- 49:35big Foot's gonna hurt you guys if you leave him alone. But she always
- 49:38said, now the other one, she said, he'll hurt you. And
- 49:44we were always raised it. We weren't afraid of the big foot. She
- 49:45always said he was curious that you know, he would come up and look
- 49:51around, maybe you know, peek in the windows. But she always told
- 49:53us that he wasn't something that we needed to be afraid of, that if
- 49:58we left him alone, pretty much, he'd leave us alone. But it
- 50:00was the other things that she was always more afraid of, because I mean,
- 50:05it stood on her sidewalk and called her name and tried to get her
- 50:07to come outside, you know, and big that's yeah, he'd never done
- 50:14that. He would just prowl around you hear him breathe, and you know,
- 50:16and you know stuff like that. The other things were what tried to
- 50:20come in. That was setting the trees, you know, and watch you
- 50:22setting in the trees. And they were more of the I guess sinister they
- 50:28were. They were more sinister. So well, okay. Cryptid five five
- 50:31nine has an interesting comment. I had to pull this one up. It
- 50:35says, I've heard from the Native Americans about creating these dogmen by gathering the
- 50:39elite warriors from the tribes and through some ceremony, the dogmen were created to
- 50:45take down the giants. That sounds like a skinwalker kind of. Now you
- 50:50have Native American heritage, Mike, what do you think about that statement?
- 50:53Have you heard that before? I've heard the stories. Uh. Yeah,
- 50:59My grandpa full blood, A lot of my family was full bloods. They
- 51:04do believe in those. Me, as a Christian, I don't believe that.
- 51:09I don't believe there's a transformation. I believe that a lot of our
- 51:15heritage a skin walker. From what was explained to me by an elder was
- 51:22during a ceremony, the Indians would actually wear the skins of the animals and
- 51:27believe they took on the spirit of that animal and they were acting out even
- 51:32in war or hunting or you know, whatever whatever they would be done to
- 51:37be blessed, they would act out that animal by wearing its further. Actually
- 51:42was not a physical transformation, Okay, okay, And that's your thing.
- 51:46Like you you what you were saying when I was watching your Lives other night,
- 51:50it's not you. You don't believe that solid being can transform into something
- 51:55that's like an orb or something like that, or or disintegrate into thin air
- 52:01and go from spirit like the spirit world or another like interdimensional let's just say
- 52:07that kind of a thing now. And uh and so, and that's something
- 52:10that I find very interesting because I don't know for sure. I mean,
- 52:14I'm very the things that I've experienced. I would say that there could be
- 52:19and I'm saying it could be potentially some sort of interdimensional aspect to some of
- 52:23these cryptids because I that's just been my experience out in the field. Um,
- 52:29and I can I say I've ever seen one like disintegrate before my eyes
- 52:32and things like that. No, So, you know, and I think
- 52:37it's it's all about like learning other people's experiences and their perspectives, and it's
- 52:40all trying to kind of put our our information together in some way. So
- 52:45and hey, Matt, do you know what if a spirit in the woods,
- 52:52a demon was to show with something that did do that? Yeah?
- 53:00Good h so, but that that brings it back to demonic forces and stuff
- 53:05too. I mean, some people say that they think sasquash or demons too
- 53:09and stuff. So I don't know. I think it's all a matter of
- 53:13I don'ant to say semantics or something. I mean, I don't know.
- 53:15But there's a lot of people that say they're just people like us. They
- 53:19just be hairy people, you know. Um you know though, yeah,
- 53:27go ahead. And the Cherokee, you know, they said they traded with
- 53:29them, They used to trade with them, you know, they they tribe
- 53:35and you know, and they a lot of them. When you talk to
- 53:38them, they said that they were human. They were just as in,
- 53:44they were stronger, harry, they had deformities, but they were enough human
- 53:50that the Indians would call them, uh, you know, they would say,
- 53:52you know, well they eat other people. And you know, they
- 53:57said, you know, because they would eat the children. And that's what
- 54:00became a big problem for them, as they would eat their children, take
- 54:01their woman, and they you know, they said, wow, I can't
- 54:05believe that they're you know, they're eating it's. But they didn't say they
- 54:07were monsters. They didn't call them animals. You know, they said they're
- 54:13eating their own, which meant, you know, they was eating our babies,
- 54:15but they call them their own. So I thought that was really that's
- 54:19interesting. Okay, and that's from what the research that I've done. Let's
- 54:24just say my research. I'm just gonna leave them to there. Okay.
- 54:27The research that I've done, I have seen that the giants, like the
- 54:31Giant of Candahar for instance, okay, it ate it was eating humans,
- 54:37okay, and so but and I what I was seeing is they were cannibals.
- 54:40So that means that they have human DNA, right, Uh, same
- 54:45thing with some of the Sasquatch as well. They're cannibals. So, but
- 54:50they were eating This is when I was researching the ones that were up in
- 54:52Port Lock, Alaska. Okay, they were eating humans up, they're killing
- 54:57them, and they were eating some of them, okay. And and so
- 55:00the information I was getting was cannibals. So that would say suggest they have
- 55:04human DNA. I agree, hundred percent, that's what he said. He
- 55:08said, you know, he's an elder, and he said, if it
- 55:10would have been something different, then they would have called it something different.
- 55:15But it was human enough. But they called him cannibals. You know,
- 55:16they were eating their own so they're that tells me that they're intelligent, uh,
- 55:23he says, And you know, I don't know. This is his
- 55:25point, and he's he know a lot older, he has a lot you
- 55:30know, the elders all talk, so they have a lot more information.
- 55:31But he said they they even used tools and built fires, and he talked
- 55:37about the Dakota fire. He said the big Foot were well known for using
- 55:40Dakotea fires. And you know, he said, they're they're an intelligent they're
- 55:46very intelligent. Because I was, you know, a lot of people ask
- 55:49me how come he comes up to a house he doesn't bust the glass out,
- 55:52come inside and kill everybody when they're so strong, And I ask,
- 55:55exactly, or push push through a AC unit too with the dog man out
- 56:01And he said the reason they don't is because they're intelligent enough to know that
- 56:06if they do that, they're going to be hunted. He said, you're
- 56:10not talking about an animal. They know that whenever they do certain acts that
- 56:15they're going to be held accountable to it. He said they're smart because when
- 56:20they took the babies, you know from the Indians, the Indians eventually hunted
- 56:23them down and drove them into the woods. And he said the way they
- 56:27was able to do that was from being able to trade with white men to
- 56:30get rifles, which allowed them to be able to use rifles against them,
- 56:35which drove them deeper into the woods. As a story he gave me and
- 56:37he said, people say, when they chase us, they won't come out
- 56:40of a woodline, right, They won't come out to the opening. And
- 56:45he said the reason they won't do that is they know our guns will kill
- 56:49them in the opening. But in the trees, you don't have line of
- 56:52sight and they're protected by the trees, so it's more of a fair ground
- 56:57to fight. So he had a lot of good in from I really like
- 57:00talking to them. Yeah, well, I like talking to you because we
- 57:05have some really interesting conversations now. And I want to remind the audience today
- 57:08that and I stated this in the beginning of the show. These are just
- 57:10a kind of our thoughts and our opinions on stuff. It doesn't mean we're
- 57:14saying all this is fact, okay, Like what we're talking about, I
- 57:16don't I mean no, I don't think anybody can say anything about dogman is
- 57:20total fact. Okay. But we're just putting our thoughts out there today.
- 57:24As far as I'm potentially dogmen being possessed by demons and things like that,
- 57:30I know it's it sounds a little wild to a lot of people, but
- 57:34but it's just a thought. And uh, you know, I like exploring
- 57:37these things and it's a lot of fun. And yeah, I think that
- 57:42that's very smart of the bigfoots in the in the dogmen and whatever just hide
- 57:45to hide in the trees. I mean, some people say bigfoots can become
- 57:50trees, okay, and I know that adds a whole other element, and
- 57:52that's not what you would believe, if you you know, we're not believing
- 57:55that they can shape shift, let's just say, into trees and stuff like
- 58:00that and become portals and stuff. Now I'm open to that possibility personally,
- 58:05but that's just that's just my opinion. And uh, I've seen some weird
- 58:09stuff Mike, that's all I'm gonna say. I've seen some real weird stuff
- 58:14and that's that's why I'm open to that possibility. Right. And I always
- 58:19sees people. I always say, you know, the devil is what led
- 58:22me to God, because if I would have ever seen that night, I
- 58:25may have never got saved. But seeing that, letting me know that that
- 58:30part existed, I knew the other had to. Yeah, you know interesting.
- 58:37And so the kind of stuff that night, he tried to hear me,
- 58:40but he scared me to Christ. And that's why all chief people say
- 58:45he literally he literally scared the hill out of me. It's scared the hill
- 58:50that was in the most literal of senses. Right, that's awesome. Oh
- 58:54my gosh. Well, you know what. And I and I feel like
- 58:57that's kind of how the crypted world is working right now on a spiritual level.
- 59:01It is opening up people too, I'm going to say their spiritual side
- 59:07in a lot of ways. I like to say that we're kind of expanding
- 59:09the consciousness of everyone on this planet, one bigfoot sighting at a time.
- 59:13Okay, and uh, because it does it jars you into a different reality.
- 59:17Um and and and and we'll take people to Jesus. Okay, some
- 59:22people it will um because just to try to understand and cope with what they're
- 59:25seeing, because a lot of these beings are not supposed to be real,
- 59:30you know, uh, dog Man, Bigfoot, these these are things of
- 59:34fantasy, right, Mike. So it's it can really scare the hell out
- 59:38of people literally, like you were saying, yeah, I mean if you
- 59:43know, just you know, you're out with your kids one day and you
- 59:46look over or walking on their hind legs. You just I mean it's hard
- 59:52to take in really because you you want a second guess it or I did
- 59:55you know? I wanted to think, you know, there there was another
- 59:59ex eplanation, but there's not. I mean, it's what's happening is happening
- 1:00:04in front of you, and it's it's real. It is people die,
- 1:00:09and we know there's cover ups. It's it's evident in the reports that there's
- 1:00:15cover ups. There's you know, when when the government it's covering things up
- 1:00:22and they're doing it in their reports. You have the OSBI, you have
- 1:00:28the Girl Scout murders that I've done to where you have federal agents that are
- 1:00:32seasoned officers that are putting their credibility on the line that go to federal court
- 1:00:38every day, that their credibility means anything in the world to these investigators and
- 1:00:45wrote on paper we saw things out there that were not human, they were
- 1:00:51in human and then twenty five of them quit, Three of them kill theirselfs
- 1:00:57whoa in humanoids? Over? Oh? So they killed them? So do
- 1:01:00you think that they did they actually uh, I don't want to say the
- 1:01:06name of starts to see, but where did they actually kill themselves? You
- 1:01:09think there was a cover up of that, like someone else suicided them.
- 1:01:15I guess. I know I would probably shouldn't say these words on YouTube,
- 1:01:17but maybe they wasn't want to go along with the with the plan, you
- 1:01:23know, OK, gotcha. That's because there were there were things and you
- 1:01:30know, I would talk to a guy the other day and he told me,
- 1:01:31he said, Mike, I don't think you should even go there.
- 1:01:34He said, there is bad things. They are bad things that could follow
- 1:01:37you home. That's a really dark place. And you know I didn't think
- 1:01:43of that. Kelly brought it to him. You know that that is a
- 1:01:47dark, dark place. Some really bad things happened there, and I aren
- 1:01:53more of what happened there. You know what I'm talking about, and it
- 1:01:57goes way deeper than we would ever told. And just wait till I show
- 1:02:02what they have given me. It is a bad, bad area. It's
- 1:02:07worse than we thought. It's worse city a thought because it was pretty bad
- 1:02:12when I've talked to you about it before what I told you, I found
- 1:02:15out so much more and it is a dark place. Yeah, well we're
- 1:02:24gonna you're gonna you're gonna stick around after the show. Maybe we should talk
- 1:02:29someone to hear about this now you have, you have some more investigations coming
- 1:02:32up. Kind of explain to to my audience today, kind of what your
- 1:02:37YouTube channel is about and what you do there because it's super popular and everybody
- 1:02:42please go subscribe to Abnormal Investigations on YouTube to tell the audience kind of give
- 1:02:47the gist of what you do over there. I'm kind of hardheaded, is
- 1:02:52what they say. I used my how I used to investigate it work.
- 1:02:55People come up to me and they tell me something and then all what we
- 1:02:59were talking take, you know, a word of mouth at fifty percent and
- 1:03:01then you prove the other and you know, people can come up you know
- 1:03:07a lot of murder cases have happened like that, where they say, you
- 1:03:08know, this lady came in and she said she done it. She wants
- 1:03:12to plead guilty to it. She gives you a written statement and everything,
- 1:03:15but it was really her son that done it. She's just covering for him.
- 1:03:17There can always be a deception, and if you don't, you have
- 1:03:21to follow everything to find the truth. And what I try to do is
- 1:03:24I look at these cases as to try to find the most evidence that you
- 1:03:30can't provable evidence, not speculation. I know, we have to speculate because
- 1:03:35we have a body and these these things are you know, there's no one
- 1:03:40proof. But if you've seen them, you know, and you go out
- 1:03:45and I just try to look at as if you're preparing, you know,
- 1:03:47to go to court. You have to try to find, you know,
- 1:03:52the truth, and a lot of people will get Matt. You know,
- 1:03:52well you don't take my word for it, my word for it, but
- 1:03:57you know as well as I do. There's a lot of people out there
- 1:03:59that are putting stuff out and if we waste our time investigating all the fake
- 1:04:02stuff, then we're never going to find the truth stuff. And I just
- 1:04:06try to you know, don't go with what's popular, go with what you
- 1:04:11believe in, and go with the truth. That's what I try to go
- 1:04:15with. I just wherever it takes you, even if it's popular or I'm
- 1:04:17popular. Yeah, something follow you. I can't hearing something. There's something
- 1:04:25in my wall. Maybe my dog, I guess. I don't know.
- 1:04:28I just heard it sounds like something. Literally, it sounds like something's trying
- 1:04:30to crawl through my wall right now. So I hope it's my dog.
- 1:04:33It could be a squirrel. I don't know. I don't know, so
- 1:04:39that's the scary part. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if the
- 1:04:43microphone just picked that up. Whatever it was. I heard my dog running
- 1:04:47around, so it could be her. But anyways, I'm like, what
- 1:04:53is that. I don't know what's going on. It's a beautiful day outside
- 1:04:57there. I don't know. At least I'm live on error for something happens.
- 1:05:00We're good. What's happened? Oh no, I know, right,
- 1:05:06I got my skull over there. Um, But yeah, you know that's
- 1:05:10that's I really appreciate it about you. I appreciate a lot of things about
- 1:05:14you, Mike, because I think you have an amazing YouTube channel. You're
- 1:05:16very honest okay and uh and very authentic and and you you just want to
- 1:05:21find the truth about these mysterious deaths that happen. Um. What you do
- 1:05:26is you investigate these unspecified animal attacks okay, packs a wild dog attacks,
- 1:05:32things like that, homicides and deaths of people from all over the country in
- 1:05:39the United States that just don't really add up, okay. And and I've
- 1:05:43looked into some of those myself. That's what I do with my remote viewing
- 1:05:45show. Uh. And and I've been trained to do that to help find
- 1:05:48missing people, to solve crimes, and not to solve I'm not gonna say
- 1:05:51I'm solving crimes, okay, but to get some insight on them, right
- 1:05:56um. And so but that's that's kind of what you're doing. You're just
- 1:06:00kind of just exposing it and and trying to connect the dots, okay.
- 1:06:03And I think that's a wonderful thing. Your your heart's in the right place,
- 1:06:08and you were really making you know, a lot of progress on these
- 1:06:12things. So kudos to you, Mike. I love it, and uh
- 1:06:16and share your stories with the dog men on your property and things like that.
- 1:06:19It really is enlightening for a lot of us. Yeah, it just
- 1:06:25it fascinates me. And I just you know, nothing aggravates me more than
- 1:06:30if somebody loses a loved one and it's covered up by lie. Everybody deserves
- 1:06:34their story told and the truth. That's that's you know, that's that's the
- 1:06:42main thing to me. It's to be able to not It burns me to
- 1:06:46know that they lie intentionally, Yeah, because these are lives. These are
- 1:06:51people, you know, they have mom's, dads, you know, brothers,
- 1:06:56sisters and uncles, and they're they're paying off the families to lie,
- 1:07:01and that to me, that's just it's not honorable, it's not there's no
- 1:07:04integrity, no integrity. Well, it comes down to these horrific events that
- 1:07:11happen, like in the LBL, the family that was murdered there by Dogman.
- 1:07:15I've I've looked into it. I'm I'm about one hundred percent sure that
- 1:07:18actually really did happen. Okay um and uh And for it to be covered
- 1:07:24up and for families to still go over there. I think they have that
- 1:07:28area closed down where you can't camp there anymore. But it's just like late
- 1:07:33Jennevas says here, it's peevil, Uh, still allowing people to actually go
- 1:07:39there and take their children for camping trips and things like that. Um,
- 1:07:44it's important for us to expose that. If you get a chance, look
- 1:07:47into it's an Oklahoma case. It's called James meeting Needless and I guarantee you
- 1:07:57you will be so stuck and once you start reading that, it will blow
- 1:08:01your mind. M Yeah, there's a lot there a lot. Okay,
- 1:08:12well, uh yeah, we we Mike is an amazing guest by the way,
- 1:08:15Yes, you are an amazing guests. Um. Yeah, we we
- 1:08:18have so much more we could talk about today, Mike, but I think
- 1:08:23we've come to a great kind of stopping point because we'll just keep going on
- 1:08:27forever. I would ask you about some of the cases you've looked into lately.
- 1:08:31But well, I'll bring you on next time. We'll do a part
- 1:08:33two U to this actually for on the daytime show. Uh and back at
- 1:08:40Space Out Radio anytime you want to join me. You're always welcome, Mike,
- 1:08:43okay, um, because it's always you're a great post and you have
- 1:08:46a great channel. And I tell everybody too, you know, go support
- 1:08:50you and everything, and uh, you know you're you're doing a good job.
- 1:08:54And you're, like I said, you're very you have a lot of
- 1:08:57information and you know people need to support you what you're doing. You're you're
- 1:09:00trying to do the good thing. There's very few actors trying to do the
- 1:09:03good thing. And I'm always it's always a pleasure to be on your show.
- 1:09:08Well, thank you. That means the world to me. I really
- 1:09:10do appreciate that. I like thank you especially coming from you because I enjoy
- 1:09:13watching your shows as well. And uh, and keep up the good work.
- 1:09:17Let me know what I can do to help ever and uh, and
- 1:09:20and thank you for having this dialogue with me because you knew coming into this
- 1:09:24that I kind of on the other side of the spectrum. And uh,
- 1:09:27but we were able to talk about this and just kind of have a really
- 1:09:30good conversation. And I think that more people need to do this, Okay,
- 1:09:33and uh and come. And it's not even just a debate, it's
- 1:09:36just a discussion, right, Um, it's a discussion to be a good
- 1:09:42teacher, to be a good teachers, to be a good student. And
- 1:09:45whenever we close up or mind other opportunities and other other things, and we're
- 1:09:49never going to learn. We have to be open to everything. Yes,
- 1:09:54that's right, thank you. Tom. Y'all, y'all, go everybody's in
- 1:09:58chat, y'all, please go subscribe to everybody's you two channels sits in here.
- 1:10:00We've got Tom from North Carolina, Krypted and Paranormal Project. We've got
- 1:10:04Nana Boss in here. Go to her channel and subscribe, please, And
- 1:10:08uh, Supernatural Spectrums in the House, Matt or Outcast Matt. I think
- 1:10:13and you change you may change the name of your channel, Matt, I
- 1:10:15don't know. Uh, there's just so many people in here, y'all.
- 1:10:17Y'all, y'all go through and uh and find everybody's channels and go subscribe.
- 1:10:21But most most importantly today, please go subscribe to Abnormal Investigations here. It
- 1:10:30is right here. And uh, and you have you can subscribe to your
- 1:10:33channel, Mike. What else? What else? Do you have memberships and
- 1:10:36stuff like that that people could join if they want to support you. Yeah,
- 1:10:42I started the membership page. Everybody was asking me to do it,
- 1:10:44asking me to do it. So I opened it and it is just blew
- 1:10:46up so good. I haven't opened it. Good for you, so amazing
- 1:10:51people. We have a lot of amazing people. I see a lot of
- 1:10:54them here tonight that I recognize. You know, I'm asking all of them
- 1:10:58to support you and subscribe to you and thank you, thank you. We're
- 1:11:03all here to support each other, okay, and uh and so that's that's
- 1:11:06all we can do at this point and to be there for everybody. So
- 1:11:11I want everybody have a wonderful rest of your day. I'm going to be
- 1:11:14back tomorrow night at eight pm Eastern. I believe I have Cindy Goodbreak coming
- 1:11:18on the show tomorrow night. I have remote viewed her property for a part
- 1:11:21two. If you guys will recall, she has just about every crypto on
- 1:11:26her property. And uh and so we're going to um, yeah, we're
- 1:11:30gonna we're gonna go over that tomorrow night and it's gonna be another great show.
- 1:11:32And then I've got spaced out radio this weekend with a couple of really
- 1:11:35fantastic guests. Mike, thank you again so much for being here today.
- 1:11:41We will we'll see you next time. Keep up the good work. Okay,
- 1:11:44Thanks, thank you. Okay, bye bye, all right bye everybody
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