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Mark interviews Roger Friedman from Showbiz 411. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: What's better than two hours of Marc Simone?
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  Speaker 2: Three!
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  Speaker 1: The Marc Simone Show, now nine till noon weekdays, 710WOR. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Roger Friedman, the great entertainment reporter, his website is showbiz411. com.
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  Speaker 1: All kinds of news stories every day, showbiz411. com. Roger Friedman,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Well, are you up to the news that's been going
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  Speaker 2: on this morning from the White House?
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  Speaker 1: Kimberly Guilfoyle resigning?
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  Speaker 3: Well, she was asked to resign.
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  Speaker 1: She's been fired.
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  Speaker 2: And the new press secretary, Katie Zachariah, is getting a
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  Speaker 2: lot of notice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was very good. She's kept it short. Look good.
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  Speaker 3: No, even, even the one house.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't, we don't, we don't get into these
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  Speaker 1: left wing, uh, attacks, these kooks.
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  Speaker 3: We don't, I'm not attacking her.
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  Speaker 1: She was fine.
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  Speaker 3: I want her to stay.
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  Speaker 1: She was fine. Everybody was happy. Everybody was happy with her.
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  Speaker 2: I want her, I want her to stay and, and
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  Speaker 2: we can enjoy her time together.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
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  Speaker 3: Um, I'm waiting for, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about Selma Blair.
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  Speaker 2: Um, Oh, poor Selma Blair. You know, she has multiple sclerosis.
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  Speaker 2: And she's really been suffering for years.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: She's had all kinds of medications and procedures and all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of things to keep her going. And she's a mess.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like torture. And then she's on a plane
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  Speaker 2: and she's drinking, of course, because you're nervous about flying.
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  Speaker 2: So you have a couple of drinks and the drinks
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  Speaker 2: interact with the medicine from the M.S., And suddenly she's
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  Speaker 2: biting people. And it's crazy. I mean, she obviously shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be allowed on a plane anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You think that simply drinking and pills, it could cause us,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you could pass out. You could do it.
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  Speaker 1: Could it make you do this? Can it really cause that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it can. I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: She's, you know, it's, we don't have MS and it's
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  Speaker 2: a serious thing. We're laughing about it, but it's very serious.
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  Speaker 3: And it's very painful. And God knows what's done to
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  Speaker 3: her brain.
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  Speaker 2: And she's constantly announcing that she's in remission and trying
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  Speaker 2: to get work.
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  Speaker 3: But can you imagine living like that? It's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: So they're not going to be any serious penalties for it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she'll apologize. She'll pay some little fine. But
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  Speaker 2: it was a slow news day yesterday. So when this happened,
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  Speaker 2: it became the main story everywhere. But it's a ridiculous story.
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  Speaker 3: And it's sad. We have to have some empathy for
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  Speaker 3: these people.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but if you're a famous person and you
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  Speaker 1: get in a fight at the airport and you yell
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  Speaker 1: at somebody, somebody records the video, it goes viral. But
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  Speaker 1: if you bite somebody and she punched the stewardess so
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  Speaker 1: hard and sent her to the hospital. Maybe she was hungry.
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  Speaker 1: But the stewardess ended up in the hospital, the flight attendant.
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  Speaker 1: This was bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's bad. It's bad.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, you've got to have some empathy for her.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, she'll pay some fines. And she's
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  Speaker 2: not going to jail, obviously. And it's amazing that she's
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  Speaker 2: still alive, to tell you the truth. And God knows
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  Speaker 2: what she's doing to keep that up. But she's always been–
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  Speaker 2: I've met her a few times. She's always been a
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  Speaker 2: nice person. And this thing is a terrible curveball for
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  Speaker 2: anybody who gets it. So I can't be too critical.
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  Speaker 1: The multiple sclerosis ward at the hospital, you'll never hear.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You might. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We've got to talk to some doctors.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a good audio for a good horror movie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, it's the shower scene in Psycho.
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: No, that's her. That's her on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: It might be the sound Katie Zachariah is going to
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  Speaker 2: make at the White House podium tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm afraid you left-wingers aren't going to get very
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  Speaker 1: far with that.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not a left-winger, right-wing thing. This girl was hysterical.
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  Speaker 2: She reminded me of Lonnie Anderson in the first episode
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  Speaker 2: of WKRP.
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  Speaker 1: It'd never be as bad as Jen Psaki. That was
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  Speaker 1: the worst. She wasn't good either. The really dumb one,
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  Speaker 1: the real stupid one. Who was that? What was her name?
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  Speaker 1: Kareem Jean-Pierre. Sean Spicer. No, Kareem Jean-Pierre. No, Spicer's a
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  Speaker 1: great politician. People pay Spicer a fortune for advice. Do they?
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  Speaker 1: The dumb one. Kareem Jean-Pierre, whatever her name was.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. McDonaghy.
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  Speaker 1: No, Kareem Jean-Pierre. It was nice, but IQ like 80 maybe. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get back.
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  Speaker 2: To Tom Cruise. Digger is being pulled out of theaters.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to see it, you better see it
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  Speaker 2: in the next couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: So tell me about that. Also, why did The Social Reckoning,
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  Speaker 1: this big new movie, why did that not do so well?
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  Speaker 2: Social Reckoning is a problem. There's no reason for it.
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  Speaker 2: There's no reason for the movie. It's not a sequel
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  Speaker 2: to The Social Network. It has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: The Social Network, which was a hit movie. They sort
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  Speaker 2: of marketed it that way. And in the movie, The
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  Speaker 2: Social Reckoning, there's a lot of leaps of logic are made.
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  Speaker 2: One of them is that Facebook somehow caused January 6th
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  Speaker 2: to happen, which by the time they get to this thing,
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  Speaker 2: the movie, you're like, come on, really? So there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of logic that's missing from the film. And it's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be like a procedural, like, you know, Spotlight
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  Speaker 2: was a great movie about the priests and the sexual abuse.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a big gotcha moment where they reveal everything.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to have like a big gotcha moment in
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  Speaker 2: the procedural or it's not going to work. And there's
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  Speaker 2: no moment like that in this movie. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: very talky movie. It's Jeremy Allen White and Mikey Madison,
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  Speaker 2: who are very nice, talking to each other and making
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  Speaker 2: a big deal out of the fact that Facebook has
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  Speaker 2: no ethics. Well, surprise, we know that. We didn't know
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  Speaker 2: that when the social network came out. It was new then.
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  Speaker 2: But now we've lived with it for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: so we know what the story is. And just the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you're revealing that is not the foundation for
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  Speaker 2: a whole movie. So there's not much going on in
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  Speaker 2: this movie. And by the time it gets to the end,
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  Speaker 2: and they're sort of blaming Mark Zuckerberg, who's not a
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  Speaker 2: very sympathetic character in real life, sort of comes off
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  Speaker 2: sympathetically in the movie because he's being blamed for January
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  Speaker 2: 6th rioting at the Capitol. Well, I mean, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are to blame for that, and he's not alone.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think you can really put it on
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  Speaker 2: his shoulders. All the social media platforms were buzzing with
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  Speaker 2: people encouraging the insurrection on January 6th.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there was no insurrection. No, no.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a party that went wrong.
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  Speaker 1: No, but if you read the 2,400 charges, and they
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  Speaker 1: hit everybody with everything, nobody was charged with insurrection.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Trespassing, criminal.
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  Speaker 3: It was just a bad time.
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  Speaker 1: No, they were charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct, disruption of
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  Speaker 1: a government function. You could have charged somebody with an erection,
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  Speaker 1: and they decided nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was– all right, let's say– I like that,
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  Speaker 2: disruption of government function.
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  Speaker 3: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the worst trespassing incident probably of our lifetime. Yeah. Yeah, so– Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 3: But regardless, it wasn't– I'm not defending.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm defending Facebook, but there's no– you
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  Speaker 2: can't just blame one– organization on, on the thing happening.
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  Speaker 2: As they always say, you asked me why the social
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  Speaker 2: reckoning didn't do well. And I'm saying, yeah, it's because it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. That's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: They always say everything with human behavior is the same
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  Speaker 1: as it always was. It just moves to a different medium.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it, right. In the old days, it would
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  Speaker 1: have been messages passed around. Now it's Facebook where people organize, uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same behavior. Bullying used to be, it's like.
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  Speaker 2: When they used to say, you know, violence on TV
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  Speaker 2: was making people, you know, crazy and do things. And
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  Speaker 2: just because you had an episode of Law & Order,
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  Speaker 2: somebody was going to go out and do the same
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  Speaker 2: thing that a criminal was going to do.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, before we run out of time, is this true
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  Speaker 1: that there's AI music, which artificial intelligence created the music,
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  Speaker 1: that's actually doing well on the charts?
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  Speaker 2: You know, well, it's doing well on the iTunes chart
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  Speaker 2: because iTunes is very easy to manipulate. So the AI
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  Speaker 2: people have figured out a way to manipulate that chart.
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  Speaker 2: But the music's not being played anywhere. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: on Spotify. It's not being streamed. But it looks like
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  Speaker 2: it's a hit from downloading. So this has become a
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  Speaker 2: big problem. And the other problem, you know, we could
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  Speaker 2: discuss AI for a whole segment if we wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: We have more and more people embracing it because they're
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  Speaker 2: afraid of it. Uh, so you have, uh, iTunes is
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  Speaker 2: embracing it and you have even, uh, movie people are
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  Speaker 2: starting to say, well, we'll mix a movie with some
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  Speaker 2: AI in it. This is a big mistake. Uh, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to come back to bite them in
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  Speaker 2: the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a, right now there's like three or
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  Speaker 2: four singles in the top iTunes top 10 that are, uh,
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  Speaker 2: all made out of nothing made out of fiction. They're,
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  Speaker 2: they're computerized, but it's a dream singer.
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  Speaker 3: There's no song.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a dream for a movie company or
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  Speaker 1: music company. You don't have to spend any money. You
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  Speaker 1: can get it all done on AI.
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  Speaker 2: No, and you don't have to be able to play
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  Speaker 2: an instrument or act or do anything. You just write
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  Speaker 2: in a prompt on your computer and say, please give
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  Speaker 2: me this, which, which you know is a scary new
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  Speaker 2: world i think we don't want to have them say
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  Speaker 2: like give me a great radio personality you know in
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  Speaker 2: the morning and they just invent somebody we we can't
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  Speaker 2: do that we have to have the real thing That's true.
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  Speaker 1: But if you don't want to spend $ 2 million on scenery,
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  Speaker 1: you could just have AI do it for you.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have $ 2 million in scenery behind you?
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  Speaker 1: No, but I'm talking about a movie. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: how much money they would save? You don't need to
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  Speaker 1: hire 1,000 extras. You don't need to build all these sets.
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  Speaker 2: No, but then Elon Musk says we're living in a simulation,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe he's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, could be.
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  Speaker 2: We're just living in a simulation of what used to be.
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  Speaker 1: No, that could be.
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  Speaker 3: That's not good. No.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: What did Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell say? Ain't nothing
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  Speaker 2: like the real thing.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Now we have to explain to a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people who's Marvin Gaye, Tammy Terrell. Half the
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  Speaker 1: people working on this floor won't know who those two are.
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  Speaker 1: But go listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll explain it to them later.
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  Speaker 1: We're out of time, though. But Roger Friedman, great stuff
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  Speaker 1: as always. Everybody go read his website.
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  Speaker 3: Great talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: Showbiz411. com. Showbiz411. com. There's a lot more stories up there, too.
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  Speaker 1: Roger Friedman, thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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