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Ep. 976: Foundations - How to Play the Rut Waiting Game During the Lockdown Phase · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by first Light.
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host, Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: And today's episode is all about the lockdown phase and
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  Speaker 2: why it's just so dang hard to kill a buck
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  Speaker 2: right now. Look, if you didn't kill one yet, at
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  Speaker 2: least you fellows who aren't way down South waiting around
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  Speaker 2: for this rut to show up, you have your work
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  Speaker 2: cutout for it. But I've come to think about this
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  Speaker 2: deer thinging kind of in a way where I try
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  Speaker 2: to focus on the advantages I have and what that
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  Speaker 2: means to my strategy. I know this might sound dumb,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's important and it really matters when
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  Speaker 2: you hit the lockdown phase, where you know the feeling
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  Speaker 2: that things could bust open any minute is just gone,
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  Speaker 2: and it's now a slog to try to capture a
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  Speaker 2: little of the rut magic before the late season shows
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  Speaker 2: up and brings with it a whole bunch of hunting
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  Speaker 2: that usually isn't nearly.
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  Speaker 3: As fun as the rut.
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  Speaker 2: If you could go back in time to Little Rock, Arkansas,
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  Speaker 2: on May twentieth, nineteen forty two, you might be able
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  Speaker 2: to walk into the maternity ward in the hospital down
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  Speaker 2: there and see the nurses roll a newborn in who
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  Speaker 2: would eventually go by the name of Carlos Hathcock. I'm
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  Speaker 2: guessing a fair amount of you had a different upbringing
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  Speaker 2: from me, but Carlos Hathcock came up in conversations in
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  Speaker 2: our house quite a bit, mostly because my dad spent
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  Speaker 2: a year and a half in Vietnam and the war
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  Speaker 2: was a thing that you were always just aware.
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  Speaker 3: Of with him.
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  Speaker 2: Hathcock, who's the subject of a book called Marine Sniper,
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  Speaker 2: which I read when I was pretty young, and I
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  Speaker 2: highly doubt my mom had any idea what it contained,
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  Speaker 2: because it's pretty freaking brutal, was a sniper who had
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  Speaker 2: a pretty unbelievable run. Hathcock was already known for his
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  Speaker 2: marksmanship before he entered the Marine Corps, and his reputation
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  Speaker 2: only grew from there. He had ninety three confirmed kills
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  Speaker 2: and from his words, quite a few more unconfirmed since
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  Speaker 2: there was no third party to verify a lot of
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  Speaker 2: his work, such being the nature of a sniper in
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  Speaker 2: the jungles of Southeast Asia. Hathcock is the guy known
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  Speaker 2: for shooting an enemy sniper through his scope the enemy scope,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, by aiming at the reflection off the lens,
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  Speaker 2: which is the kind of thing that you probably don't
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  Speaker 2: get away with too often in your career, because it
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  Speaker 2: means that the business end of your enemy's gun is
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  Speaker 2: pointed in your direction and probably pretty close to heating up.
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  Speaker 2: He's also known for shooting a female officer with a
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  Speaker 2: penchant for torturing American Marines. A soldier has spot her
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  Speaker 2: identified when she squatted to take a leak at like
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred yards, which I guess is a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: giveaway since not a lot of male soldiers would pee
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  Speaker 2: that way, even if they really wanted to. Another time,
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  Speaker 2: he accepted a mission that he he was only informed
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  Speaker 2: about after agreeing to it, where he had to crawl
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  Speaker 2: for four days and three nights across an essentially open
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  Speaker 2: field to make a shot. He was almost stepped on
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  Speaker 2: by the enemy, bumped face to face with a venomous
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  Speaker 2: snake and had a hell of a time dealing with
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  Speaker 2: the insects that took an interest in him. But his
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  Speaker 2: margin for error on that mission was as close to
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  Speaker 2: zero as you can get, and any move to swat
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  Speaker 2: away some biting ants or back off from a pissed
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  Speaker 2: off danger rope slithering through the grass would have been
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  Speaker 2: enough to get him busted, and the Vietcong were pretty
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  Speaker 2: interested in his whereabouts. In fact, he had a thirty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars bounty on his head, which was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money at the time for them to offer up
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  Speaker 2: for anyone. I was obsessed with that book and the
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  Speaker 2: stories of Hathcock when I was growing up, but it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the marksmanship that mattered to me as much. I
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  Speaker 2: felt then wrongly, I'll add that just about anyone can
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  Speaker 2: put the crosshairs on something and make a decent shot.
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  Speaker 2: I know now that's wrong, because I'm a pretty bad
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  Speaker 2: rifle shot. In general, it was his patience and just
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  Speaker 2: dedication to the mission that blew me away, and still does.
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  Speaker 2: The ability to wait and do nothing, and wait and
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  Speaker 2: do nothing and wait until the moment arrives, and then
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  Speaker 2: you have your mind and your body work the way
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  Speaker 2: they are supposed to in order to get the job
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  Speaker 2: done is just so much more impressive than hitting a
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  Speaker 2: target that you're aiming at. One is a skill that
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  Speaker 2: can be worked on by sending hundreds of rounds down range.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not a skill I mean to diminish. But
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  Speaker 2: the patient's thing is different. And while it might be
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a stretch to compare his achievements to
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  Speaker 2: shooting a buck right now, I think we can pull
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  Speaker 2: a lot of lessons out of life if we know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of where to look. In fact, scratch that,
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  Speaker 2: I think we can learn a lot about how to
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  Speaker 2: be better at life if we not only allow ourselves
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  Speaker 2: to look for those lessons, but to truly put them
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  Speaker 2: into practice. I see this constantly at hunting, and I
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  Speaker 2: used to think that laziness, you know, amongst the general
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  Speaker 2: hunting population, is what saved the most.
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  Speaker 3: Deer, But I don't know. Now. I think it's impatience.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they are closer together than I think, but the
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  Speaker 2: truth is that patience is just what gets the job done.
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  Speaker 2: I also think this is part of the reason why
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  Speaker 2: it's so common for folks to use blinds, and especially
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  Speaker 2: box blinds to deer hunt. Now, I know there are
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  Speaker 2: plenty of valid reasons to use them, but it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: hard to argue that the most comfortable you can be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's going out to the box blind with
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  Speaker 2: a heater and while that's running and keeping your warm,
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  Speaker 2: and your phone is charged, and you have a bag
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  Speaker 2: of snacks and a good view and you can move
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  Speaker 2: around without worry.
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  Speaker 3: Just comfy.
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  Speaker 2: You have to do what you have to do to
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  Speaker 2: stay out there, which is something that is maybe the
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  Speaker 2: most true. When the bucks go from cruising and chasing
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  Speaker 2: to breeding and locking down with a receptive lady, things
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  Speaker 2: can get very quiet out there, but the big boys
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  Speaker 2: are still moving and they're still looking. They just might
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  Speaker 2: not move, you know, too much, or look too much
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  Speaker 2: for a couple of days at a time. This also
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  Speaker 2: means that your cameras might go cold. That means the
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  Speaker 2: electricity in the air at sunrise might just fizzle out
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  Speaker 2: and die by ten in the morning. When you don't
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  Speaker 2: see what you expect to see. That means that the
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  Speaker 2: hunting is harder than it just was, and hard hunting
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  Speaker 2: makes a strong argument to get your ass out of
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  Speaker 2: the tree and just go do something else. But that's
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  Speaker 2: not a great way to kill big bucks. I recently
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  Speaker 2: bumped into these two mentalities while hunting with our Fearless
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  Speaker 2: Leader and his buddy in Nebraska last week. After filling
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  Speaker 2: my tag about four minutes into the hunt, which isn't
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  Speaker 2: a joke, I had the pleasure or the opportunity, since
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  Speaker 2: a lot of it was the opposite of pleasure to
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  Speaker 2: figure out how to put Steve and his buddy right
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  Speaker 2: on top of buck action. Steve's buddy, a fellow who
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  Speaker 2: goes by the name Pottery Pat, was very easy to handle.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to hunt, has an amazing attitude, and he
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  Speaker 2: killed a great buck after sitting dark to dark without
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  Speaker 2: seeing a deer, and then sitting from sunrise until about
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  Speaker 2: ten am, when the first year of his trip, a
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  Speaker 2: really solid nine point came cruising through piled up seventy
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  Speaker 2: yards from his blind and it was awesome. Steve, on
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  Speaker 2: the other hand, is like dealing with someone who has
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  Speaker 2: extreme ADHD, a raging cocaine addiction, and an affinity for
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  Speaker 2: the outdoors that doesn't quite extend into the world a
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  Speaker 2: white tail bow hunting. If you want to understand what
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  Speaker 2: I mean by that, consider this on November fourth, the
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  Speaker 2: first day of our rut hunt, when I shot one
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest bucks in my life. By the time
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  Speaker 2: I was tagged out, he was lacing up his boots
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  Speaker 2: to go set some traps for coyotes. The property we
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  Speaker 2: were hunting is a working cattle ranch that seems to
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  Speaker 2: have a very small amount of deer using it, like,
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  Speaker 2: way smaller than I expected when I signed up for
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  Speaker 2: that job. But it had some good books and enough
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  Speaker 2: deer to justify the time on stand in really good spots,
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  Speaker 2: you know, usually the kind with serious pinch points next
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  Speaker 2: to them, since the food game is almost non existent
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  Speaker 2: on that ranch. Well, Steve told me beforehand he didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to sit blind, which is tough in a county
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  Speaker 2: with only like nine trees. So I stuck him in
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  Speaker 2: blinds when I could and stands when I could, which
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  Speaker 2: was all dependent on the wind. He had a rough
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  Speaker 2: go of it until I put him along a river
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  Speaker 2: and eventually in a stand that was just the kind
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  Speaker 2: of place where one eventually will come in and pose up,
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  Speaker 2: which happened. And I'll tell you what if you ever
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  Speaker 2: have to guide your boss to a deer, And he's
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  Speaker 2: the kind of guy who mostly wants to go run
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  Speaker 2: coyote traps. You will have a stressful week. I literally,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not joking here either, almost passed out from
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  Speaker 2: relief when we walked up on the buck that he shot.
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  Speaker 3: That's another story.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson in all of this was that we can
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  Speaker 2: fight ourselves to do what we want to do, or
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  Speaker 2: we can accept the mission for what it is and
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  Speaker 2: put in what we have to in order to be
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  Speaker 2: there when a buck walks through. That's about it, my friends.
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  Speaker 2: And even though I want all of you to buy
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  Speaker 2: lots of calls and decoys and other hunting stuff, the
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  Speaker 2: truth is that if you want to be the kind
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  Speaker 2: of person who fills tags when most won't, that lesson
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  Speaker 2: is just it. You have to find it in yourself
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  Speaker 2: to sit through the second guessing, sit through the days
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  Speaker 2: when the deer just don't cooperate. You have to believe
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  Speaker 2: in the process because it works. Now, this might sound
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  Speaker 2: like some kind of motivational speech type of bullshit, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not. I believe it big time because I've put
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  Speaker 2: it into practice a whole bunch. In fact, as I
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  Speaker 2: say these words, I'm mostly thinking about how the hell
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get my truck loaded and head on
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  Speaker 2: over to northern Wisconsin to hunt the lockdown phase in
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  Speaker 2: a place where the wolves way out number the bucks.
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  Speaker 2: I probably won't see more than a couple of deer
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  Speaker 2: in multiple days of hunting, but I believe a buck
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  Speaker 2: will show up eventually, and so it'll be dark to
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  Speaker 2: dark for as many days as I can get. That's
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  Speaker 2: my best shot over there, and it's the best shot
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  Speaker 2: in most places we hunt now. Dark to dark often sucks,
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  Speaker 2: and it only gets worse when the action dies down.
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  Speaker 2: It's also not always a great idea. When we were
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  Speaker 2: in Nebraska, we had a whole bunch of days when
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  Speaker 2: the wind would be out of the north in the
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  Speaker 2: morning and then out of the south in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: We had to switch spots midday, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a good excuse to get out and get a sandwich
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  Speaker 2: and just recharge a bit. But that's where the danger
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  Speaker 2: comes creeping in, because if you have to get out,
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  Speaker 2: why not take a little snooze, or go watch a
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  Speaker 2: couple quarters of football, or I don't know, staple your
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  Speaker 2: apple bag to the wall. Really anything more enjoyable than
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  Speaker 2: watching the dead Woods for hours on end. We all
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  Speaker 2: know this, though, the more hours you put in, the
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  Speaker 2: higher likelihood you'll have of an encounter. It's just simple math,
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  Speaker 2: but there is an intangible to it as well. The
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  Speaker 2: more you don't walk around, even if you have really
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  Speaker 2: good access routes, the less impact you'll have on a location.
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  Speaker 2: And that stuff matters, my friends a lot. The more
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  Speaker 2: you enter and exit the woods, the more the deer
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  Speaker 2: know what you're up to. Then you have the reality
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  Speaker 2: of what stand to sit or whether you should go
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  Speaker 2: looking for a new spot. The two stands and the
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  Speaker 2: one blind that we killed from in Nebraska were all
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  Speaker 2: set up on really, really good funnels. They're the kind
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  Speaker 2: of spots where when the wind is good for you,
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  Speaker 2: it's good for the bucks to go sniffing around, and
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  Speaker 2: when they do, they hit certain parts of the train
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  Speaker 2: that just force them to go down very specific trails.
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  Speaker 2: Look again, we all know this, but do we live it.
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  Speaker 2: How many of us rode out the rut hours on
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  Speaker 2: field edge stands or other openings on the hope that
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  Speaker 2: we'll see something and maybe be able to call it.
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  Speaker 2: In this time of year, the deer know what's up,
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  Speaker 2: and even on private ground, the deer have yet to
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  Speaker 2: be more pressure than they are right now at this
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  Speaker 2: point of the season, because everyone hunts the rut, literally everyone,
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  Speaker 2: which means that if you're sitting on a tag now,
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  Speaker 2: you should be probably sitting in.
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  Speaker 3: The field edge.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff can produce, but it probably won't, and it certainly
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  Speaker 2: isn't likely to produce all day. You know that food
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  Speaker 2: plot you love to sit on won't either, because it's
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  Speaker 2: been hunted a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I know, if you're hunting a bang and property that
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  Speaker 2: might not be the case, but for most of us
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  Speaker 2: that should just be accepted as largely the truth. If
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  Speaker 2: you have a pinch point and the wind is right,
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  Speaker 2: that's about as good as you're going to get. But
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  Speaker 2: what if you don't. When I head to Wisconsin, That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm going to be dealing with. What's worse is
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  Speaker 2: that we are supposed to get south winds, which doesn't
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  Speaker 2: do me very much good for some of the stuff
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  Speaker 2: that I usually like to hunt. So I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to go looking or try my best to get downwind
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  Speaker 2: of what I suspect our doe betting areas.
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  Speaker 3: This is the thing about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What we want out of our hunts, like we see
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram and the hook and bullet channels is basically
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  Speaker 2: a false read of most of deer hunting. That one
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  Speaker 2: eight walking across the field Nebraska as it might as
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  Speaker 2: well be a different species of deer because they aren't
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  Speaker 2: available to you, My friend, the deer you have to
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  Speaker 2: hunt have been hunted. They're exhausted from the rut, they're
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  Speaker 2: weary from how much of the season has passed, and
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  Speaker 2: they aren't much into risk at this point. But remember
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  Speaker 2: when I said in the intro about recognizing advantages and
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  Speaker 2: using them, Well, the advantage you have now is that
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  Speaker 2: the biggest bucks are out there, still moving. They're still
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  Speaker 2: trying to capture the magic of the rut, just like
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  Speaker 2: you are. The lockdown phase is a time of limited
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  Speaker 2: resources for the deer. When it comes to finding hot dos,
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  Speaker 2: they have to go look for them, and sure, when
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  Speaker 2: they find one, they're going to sit with her for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of days. But when she's had enough of
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  Speaker 2: his company, he's going to go look for another one.
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  Speaker 2: And where he is going to look for her at
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  Speaker 2: least throughout the day is where she might be laying
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  Speaker 2: down with a couple of her sisters. Now, I have
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  Speaker 2: absolutely been floored the last several years on the caliber
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  Speaker 2: of bucks that walk by my cameras during the lockdown period.
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  Speaker 2: Even though the frequency isn't super encouraging, but it is
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  Speaker 2: encouraging enough to believe that if you can string together
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  Speaker 2: a handful of days, or you can muster up the
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  Speaker 2: will to sit whenever you have a block of hours
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  Speaker 2: to work with, you have a chance to have something
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  Speaker 2: come through. I know it's somewhat bleak, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: without hope, which I guess is a pretty good way
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  Speaker 2: to describe hunting a lot of stuff, and especially describe
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  Speaker 2: bowhunting white tails. Another way to look at this is
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  Speaker 2: that the days are crazy short now, but since you
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  Speaker 2: know that a few bucks are likely to walk around
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  Speaker 2: in daylight, the odds of you being there are pretty
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  Speaker 2: good since the windows so condensed. Maybe that's just a
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  Speaker 2: mental trick, but sitting dark to dark for only like
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  Speaker 2: eleven hours isn't the worst thing ever. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: go to work and sit for a long time, and
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  Speaker 2: that's generally always worse than sitting in a tree stand.
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  Speaker 2: To overcome the lockdown, you need one last ingredient.
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  Speaker 3: Confidence.
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  Speaker 2: This is a chicken or the egg thing, though, because
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  Speaker 2: you won't get a lot of confidence if it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: work out, you can cheat this somewhat with trail cameras,
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  Speaker 2: but the truth is you gotta get out there and
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  Speaker 2: you got to punch in on the clock. It can
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  Speaker 2: be really rough. But man, when it's like noon and
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  Speaker 2: you for sure hear a deer coming and it has
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  Speaker 2: that slow and steady gait of a deer that probably
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  Speaker 2: has antlers, it's a whole different thing that might not
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  Speaker 2: happen until you're on your third or fourth day and
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  Speaker 2: you're thinking long and hard about a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that you could be doing that doesn't involve staring
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  Speaker 2: through leafless trees while contemplating taking up golfer fencing. But
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  Speaker 2: it will happen if you play it right. Believe that,
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  Speaker 2: because if you don't, you won't be out there to
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  Speaker 2: see it come to fruition. So get out there and
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  Speaker 2: grab what's left of the rut. Make the most of it,
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  Speaker 2: my friends, there's still time to witness a little of
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  Speaker 2: that November magic before the whole thing comes to a
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  Speaker 2: sad but slightly welcome end. Do that and come back
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  Speaker 2: next week, because I'm going to talk about why we
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  Speaker 2: fail as gun hunters and what we can do to
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  Speaker 2: be a little different from our blaze orange clad brothers
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  Speaker 2: and sisters. That's it for this week. I'm Tony Peterson
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  Speaker 2: and this has been the Wire to Hunt Foundation's podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I want to thank you so much for listening and
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  Speaker 2: for all your support. It's been truly awesome, you know,
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  Speaker 2: working here at meat Eater and seeing how loyal our
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: audience is and how engaged they are. That's you, guys,
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