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#360 - For Azeroth!: “The Home Stretch” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  If you, if they're proactive, if this message comes out first,
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  then we're less stressed. We're like, OK, they're they
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  have their eyes on this, I don't have to worry.
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  But when this message comes after, it's like, OK, well, I
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  was worried and you're addressing some of the things I
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  was worried about, but you didn't mention anything else.
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  Victory for the Forsaken. For Lauderon.
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  For the Kieran Tour. For Pandaria, for calendar to
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  the burning region. For Gilnaeus, but has.
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  Not died for the Lich King for the.
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  Sindora for the Alliance for the.
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  Horde for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to
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  another episode of For Azeroth. I am one of your hosts, Manny
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  AKA The Trueville Manny and it is a two man show today.
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  Happy Thanksgiving to all of you in the US that are celebrating
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  that. And yes, I am joined.
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  We're one person down, but I am joined by my fellow Canadian
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  Sean. Hello Sean, how are you and
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  how's the World of Warcraft be treating you?
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  Hello Manny. Hello.
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  I am doing quite well, I hope you are as well.
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  The World of Warcraft has been treating me, I guess about the
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  same as is to be expected, except today they gave me a
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  giant gift of an announcement. So all kinds of hype and a
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  little bit of dread as of right now with today's news.
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  I can definitely get the dread we're going to, we're going to
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  get that to that. I'm sorry to tease everybody,
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  but you'll be happy to know I finally got my first 80 in Lee
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  Mix. I've been slowly trudging away.
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  So I've I've capped out there on on the character, been working
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  through on that. Got most of not all of the
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  cheaper mounts. So the ones that are like 10K or
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  or whatever got most of those and I'm happy that the
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  levelling's done. It's just it is something that I
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  have to just go and do what you were talking about that like run
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  of the dungeons and such. Maybe I should talk to Bega so I
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  can do it do it faster than trying to plug in myself.
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  If you want I I clear the raids. Your best gain of power is going
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  to be doing the raids. I do the raids on mythic every
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  day. Now that you're 80.
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  If you want to come with me, can come with me, but I do it at
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  reset usually. So I don't know what you're, but
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  you don't have. Schedules prevailing.
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  We'll see how it. Goes you just need to be able to
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  log in and stand at the entrance.
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  That's it. I think I can do that.
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  I think I can do. That all right, first we can get
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  you geared out. This is This is awesome.
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  We can RIP through the dungeons too, do all the dungeons on
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  Mythic. Yeah, we are almost at the point
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  where we can carry a 49, my friend and I.
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  So actually we probably can. Now we just three before the
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  show, we just three chested a 43, just the two of us.
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  So we could probably do a 49. That's awesome.
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  This is so much easier for us birds.
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  We don't even the jump in between the teeth where you
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  might get hurt, we just stand back.
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  That's right, the alligator comes to you there.
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  You go all right. If you are listening though, if
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  you're listening to this and you're like, oh man, a lovely
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  dream mix, that's great. But keep listening because at
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  the end of the show, we're going to tell you how you can enter to
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  win an epic edition of the of Midnight right here on YouTube.
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  So listen to the end or maybe somewhere in the middle.
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  Nobody knows where we're going to put where we're going to put
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  it. It's going to be a mystery where
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  we put it. Or just read whatever the top
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  comment says and copy that. But somewhere in there, we're
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  going to put where we're going to be giving away another copy
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  of the epic condition here as long as alongside giveaways that
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  we're doing on Twitter and Instagram.
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  Yeah, three chances to win and those are three separate
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  contests, so you could enter all three for your best chances.
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  With that said, let's get right into the news then the big
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  announcement that has been making waves, that has been
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  making you excited, you're saying, filling me with a bit of
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  dread, which we'll we'll go into is of course, World of Warcraft
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  Midnight has a launch date. It is officially going to be
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  coming out on March 2nd, 2026. And so mark your calendars
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  folks, talk to your bosses about time off.
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  Make sure that you, if they do don't give you the time off, you
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  contract a convenient little cold around that same time and
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  enjoy. Of course, that means people who
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  are getting early access, you'll be getting at early access three
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  days before we believe that to be February 27th.
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  And then if you have an account that has midnight, that means
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  that this coming reset, you're going to be getting into the
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  housing that's coming with 11 point 2.7.
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  And yeah, this is it guys. This is literally now the
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  countdown to midnight. Everything is going towards the
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  new expansion. And Sean, you had been making
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  guesses. You had marked your calendar
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  about where this was going to be, and this isn't quite it.
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  But what? What's your feelings about this
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  date? So I was off.
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  If you go to the For Azurat Discord at bit dot LY slash faz
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  Discord and check the pinned messages in the Our Modern
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  Conversation channel, you'll see that my predicted launch date
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  was February 10th, with the latest being February 17th that
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  I predicted. So if we go by by my latest
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  option, February 17th and then the early access February 27th,
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  I'm only off by 10 days, which isn't too bad for a guest that I
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  made in June. How do I feel about it?
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  I am I'm happy that it's not February.
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  I was really worried that it was going to be February.
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  I am still a bit nervous that this might be too soon.
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  I've I've already seen people say things online along the
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  lines of hey look, see guys, we have all kinds of time.
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  It's March, but when you remove the three weeks for the holidays
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  and Christmas, you're really looking at like 9 weeks of
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  development time now that they have left, which is just over 2
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  months and that makes me nervous.
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  We have a lot of work left to do to get the game at a state where
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  it is playable by everyone and there's no safety net.
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  Like this isn't cooldown manager and 11 point 1.5 where if it
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  doesn't work, it's OK? Everybody can still keep using
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  Tell me when or the week or packs.
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  This is it. This is this is jumping without
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  a parachute. So I'm nervous.
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  I think it's still probably too soon, but I'm glad that it's in
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  March. Also, somebody ran the numbers
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  and this launch date means that 12.1 we'll be launching
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  somewhere around the range of GTA6 launch, which maybe not
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  might be the might not be the best financial decision by
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  Blizzard, but who knows, there might not be a lot of overlap
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  there. Maybe, I don't know, like those
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  sort of juggernaut games. I think they pull from a lot of
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  types. So you're you're right there.
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  I don't think there's any way that I'm not happy that this is
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  later than we initially expected.
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  I'm right there with you. I was already calculating weeks
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  and and everything and be and wondering like, oh man, like how
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  bad this this might be. You're right.
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  This is no safety net. This is them having to land it.
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  When you lock in a date like this, you are now responsible
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  for every mishap that happens along the way, both to the
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  players and the player experience, but also the
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  developers and all the crunch that they might now suffer to
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  get this out the door in a workable fashion.
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  And I don't need it to be perfect.
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  But when you remove the ability for players to compensate, it's
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  like we said last week, it's now on them.
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  So hey, we've got a lot of episodes to go through and some
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  of the things that we're seeing are in the right direction.
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  The question is, is it fast enough?
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  Do we have the velocity regardless of like the
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  direction? Yeah, but as I was saying, that
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  means that if you've bought Midnight or you've you've got
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  one of the digital versions, that means that you will be
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  getting housing next week. And Blizzard has a special
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  contest that is all about housing.
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  So, Sean, can I get you to read our next story?
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  Yeah, so there's a new competition coming up called
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  World of Decor Craft, Azeroth's next top builder, and this is
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  what looks to be like a home and garden style reality show being
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  hosted by Zeppela S fan and Annie Fuchsia, who will be
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  judging neighborhoods and houses built by people who apply you.
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  The the December 2nd is the kickoff event live on Twitch,
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  with the 3rd to the 9th being the build week.
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  And then December 10th will be the finale event live on Twitch.
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  And the criteria for this, the finalists are going to have to
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  build a house in World of Warcraft and show it off.
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  And the judges won't be just looking for the prettiest house.
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  They're going to be looking for creativity, resourcefulness and
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  self-expression. In order to enter, there's a
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  form you have to fill out and then they're going to be
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  selecting people that can enter. So this isn't just open to
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  anyone. They are going to be selecting
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  the potential, the potential competitors and then introducing
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  them in the kickoff stream. And then they'll build their own
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  schedule throughout the week with a midweek check in from the
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  hosts. It's and they're giving away a
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  bunch of stuff. So they're giving away a
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  physical collector's edition of Midnight.
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  They're giving away a housing mug, that sweet one that they
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  sent to Manny. And they're also giving away
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  some holiday sweaters. And everybody's going to get the
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  Epic edition code. All six finalists will get a
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  copy of a code for the Epic edition and some wow game time.
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  Man, this is pretty exciting stuff.
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  It's, it's fun. It was only a matter of time
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  before we started seeing these HGTV shows start popping up
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  around housing, and I'm not surprised that this first one is
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  starring such big names like S Fan, Danny Fuchsia, and Zeppa.
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  I'm happy to see this. I saw this and I immediately
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  thought of you, Sean. I was like, this is this is what
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  Sean wants, where you get to see all this wonderful creativity
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  and you don't have to get frustrated trying to build it
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  yourself. And as I was thinking about
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  this, I put myself in your shoe, Sean.
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  I was just sort of like, yeah, I would love to see an amazing
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  dream house or like a perfect little kitchen, but I ain't
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  going to screw with that myself. And it felt right.
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  So I, I like this, I like this a lot.
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  I was looking at those prizes and being like, man, I would, I
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  would love to get that, those prizes yourself.
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  Like even if you're second or third place, which you know, is
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  still an achievement, I want that holiday sweater, man, I
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  want that holiday sweater. And there's nothing to scoff at
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  when you get like 6 or 8 months of game time.
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  So yeah, lots of lots of good stuff there.
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  The application is only open until Thursday, November 27th at
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  12:00 PM PST, which is tomorrow. I will end this episode fast and
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  get it out to give you as much notice as possible, but get your
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  applications in there. I'm looking forward to this.
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  I'm going to definitely check out the finale and probably
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  check out the kickoff event just to see what see what it is and
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  see all that creativity because I I think this is exactly what
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  the doctor ordered for somebody who isn't engaging directly like
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  myself. Yeah, it's.
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  Going to be great, can't wait 10 out of 10.
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  My money is on I think the finalists without knowing who's
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  even entering. I would like to see for
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  finalists Miss Marvel, the Cottage Wizard, Mega Art and
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  Persephone. Those four have been like the
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  most active housing people housing mains that I've been
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  watching. They all do amazing stuff.
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  I would be shocked if at least two of them aren't in the
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  finalists. Well, the weird thing about the
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  finalists is that it's three Alliance and three Horde.
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  So if all four of those, I think I've seen them all running
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  Alliance Cottage core kind of stuff.
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  Yeah, maybe. So they would knock each other
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  off so. So now you've got like 3 wild
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  cards on the word side. Yeah, 3 mud huts.
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  Good luck. 3 mud huts is flying for the win.
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  Yeah, like I I, I do think that this is going to be a fun thing.
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  I'm hoping that it's not just celebrities.
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  If you are entering, you don't need a webcam, you don't need to
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  be streaming. You just need to be able to call
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  in and speak on voice. That is a requirement for this.
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  But even if you don't have early access because you don't have
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  the the expansion being selected, they will flag your
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  account and give you early access.
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  So it doesn't matter. Anybody can make an attempt to
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  be a competitor. You don't have to pre purchase
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  for this and I love that. OK, with that said, let's let's
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  turn to a little bit of catch up because as soon as we recorded
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  last episode and between last episode in this episode, we've
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  gotten a number of Blizzard posts that talk about various
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  things that we were covering last episode.
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  And it circles back to what a streamer that I that I frequent
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  has been saying these kind of conversations need to happen
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  ahead of time. It is I, I think it was called
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  gaslighting For them to come after the fact six days later
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  and say and, and say, oh. We were always looking for.
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  Feedback. That's going to be a common
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  criticism, so I'm just going to put that up front right now.
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  I'm not sure what streamer it is that you're watching that's
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  having such incredibly insightful takes, but they sound
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  extremely attractive, yeah. I'm sorry to let you know
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  they're, they're taken. They're they're not married, but
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  they do have a permanent partner.
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  Yeah, Yeah. She's probably fantastic.
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  So Sean, do you want to take this away?
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  Yeah, so we're talking about damage meters.
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  So the community has been upset about damage meters.
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  We got them. Damage meters were released to
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  us for the raid and immediately it was noticed that they are
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  lacking in some areas. No death recount in there, no
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  enemy damage done. So you can't tell who's doing
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  what damage to what mobs. No, missing a lot of fine detail
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  breakdowns that we have in details now and we've had in
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  damage meters for a long time. So the community was was upset
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  and rightfully so and voiced it. And Blizzard responded with an
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  article that said, hey, woah. Just so everybody knows, and
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  this was from show favorite community manager Kyvax.
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  No shade to the other community managers.
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  I just I love Kyvax. I came out and said, hey,
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  listen, we these are a work in progress.
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  We wanted to get them to you in this state.
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  Now we know they're missing stuff, but we wanted to get them
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  in your hands for the raid testing.
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  Don't worry, here's some of the things that are going to be
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  coming to it. And then they mentioned that
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  damage from sources like Whirlwind and Immolation or will
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  be consolidated into a single event.
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  They manage that self damage sources like Stagger and Burning
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  Rush will not be showing up. That is a bug, which we all knew
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  was a bug, but people were still like really angry that it was
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  happening because it's something that was solved a long time ago.
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  But they're going to fix it. Don't worry, that was planned.
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  Pets and guardians are going to be intermingled and then move to
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  the bottom. They're going to be improving
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  some of the default settings. They're going to be implementing
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  a damage taken breakdown because right now there isn't 1A death
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  recap in future builds, which is several weeks out.
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  And then they closed with a, with an explanation saying that,
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  you know, they put this out before implementing this because
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  they wanted early feedback. They wanted it in our hands, but
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  this was always the intent. And Kyvax, the message is good.
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  That message that you sent is good.
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  And I obviously realized that the community managers aren't
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  the sole responsibilities for what gets said.
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  And when it's just, this happens to be a case of we're going to,
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  to address the messenger, even though the messenger may not
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  have been the the deciding factor.
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  This messaging needed to come Tuesday before we got into the
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  raid, having it come afterwards. So because, and it's like, I
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  need to, you know, do this calmly and stay calm while I do
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  this. A lot of people in the
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  community, it's it's it's I've been really frustrated this week
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  because when the trans mug news hit that we're going to talk
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  about a lot of people who don't, a lot of people when the trans
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  mug news came out, urinated blood like they screamed murder
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  over the, the price of things in trans mug and how horrible it
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  was and how Blizzard wasn't listening.
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  And then when people were giving feedback on the damage meters,
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  those same people were like, oh, you one percenters don't care.
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  The damage meters don't even matter.
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  You're going to use logs anyway. And it's like, listen, I get it,
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  You don't understand how valuable a tool a damage meter
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  is in the dungeon. I understand that.
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  That's OK. You don't have to know.
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  Maybe you have somebody else on your A-Team who does know, or
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  maybe you're not doing content where it matters.
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  But for a lot of people, that damage meter is a great tool.
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  It's much better than logs because you can't check logs mid
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  pull. When we were giving this
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  feedback, we were worried about it.
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  And then they came out and said this message.
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  And then all those people were like, see, we told you it's
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  beta. We always knew this was going to
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  be the case. But here's the thing, folks,
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  here's my issue. All of those people coming out
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  saying that talking down to people who are worried about
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  this, this feature that's coming that has no alternative when we
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  go live, this is it. You get this damage meter.
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  There's no other option. There's no Plan B.
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  It is Plan B. It's Plan B, Plan C and Plan B
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  when it comes out, yeah, I mean, it it, it might come out in this
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  state and we're giving this feedback.
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  If we don't know ahead of time, if this message comes ahead of
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  time, then a lot of these concerns people have, they're
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  not even worried about it and they're worried because we got a
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  cool down manager that launched an 11 point 1.5 without the
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  basic ability to reorder the number of the reorder the
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  position of the abilities in it. So for people to sit online and
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  be like, it's a beta, obviously they're going to give it.
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  Obviously these changes were going to happen.
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  It makes so much sense. It's a well, I would have said,
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  obviously I could put my cool down manager spells in whatever
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  order I want, but I couldn't do that for two patches, man.
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  So anyway, the point is it's a good message.
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  It's it's great that they're alleviating our concerns a
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  little bit. We still don't know what
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  features will or won't make it for launch because they have
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  told us flat out not everything's going to make it
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  for launch. We are going to have collateral
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  damage. But this messaging, and we're
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  going to see this again and two news stories, this under the the
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  very next news story. But this messaging needs to come
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  beforehand. Please start being proactive
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  with it 'cause when it comes after, like Manny's extremely
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  attractive, successful streamer friend said, it feels a little
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  bit like you're gaslighting us when you say it afterwards.
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  Anyway, yeah. Is that about sum it up, Manny?
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  Is that? About cover everything, I guess
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  the the next step is to find everything that he didn't
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  mention on this list and and go in the replies what about this
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  what about that? Because the problem with not
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  being proactive is that nobody knows what you have eyes on and
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  what's falling between the cracks.
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  And it would have been so much easier for the Warcraft
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  developers to maybe have had a summit of, of various creators
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  of add-ons and say, what have you found are the most desired
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  and wanted features? And you know, have had that
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  dialogue to then say, hey, community, this is what's
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  coming. This is what's coming.
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  It's not all going to be implemented right away and go
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  from that because even with that kind of conversation, something
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  that we would, something that we would put forward in a as like,
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  hey, this is important is because we assume other things
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  are going to land correctly. Right.
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  Right. And when you get something like
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  name bars flying all over the place, I swear that was not on
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  my list of things Blizzard better get straight.
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  But having having now experienced it, I'm like come
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  on, why is this not something Blizzard got straight?
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  How is this possibly tied to the API we've turned off?
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  The secret value is knowing what position the mob is actually in.
• 22:22
  Secret value says knowing how screwed you are.
• 22:25
  Oh my goodness. Yeah, it it, you're right.
• 22:29
  It's like you nailed it. It's if you, if they're
• 22:31
  proactive, if this message comes out first, then we're less
• 22:35
  stressed. We're like, OK, they they have
• 22:36
  their eyes on this, I don't have to worry.
• 22:38
  But when this message comes after, it's like, OK, well, I
• 22:41
  was worried and you're addressing some of the things I
• 22:43
  was worried about, but you didn't mention anything else.
• 22:45
  Whereas if the message comes first, then we're not so hyper
• 22:48
  fixated than the things they don't mention.
• 22:51
  Yeah, it it's, it's cause for concern.
• 22:53
  And I really hope we see a shift after the Thanksgiving break of
• 22:59
  these these messages preceding. Have them come out with the
• 23:03
  patch notes. You know, it's Tuesday.
• 23:05
  We're getting a new beta build. Here's your dump here.
• 23:08
  You know, especially if you have known bugs, like if you have a
• 23:11
  known bug, just say this is a known issue and they have done
• 23:14
  that. It's not like they don't know
• 23:16
  how to do that. They have done that this beta
• 23:18
  cycle with the edit mode. When the edit mode button was
• 23:21
  disappeared on alpha, it was the last line of the patch notes.
• 23:24
  We know the edit button. The edit mode is missing here so
• 23:26
  you can get around it. I mean nobody read to the
• 23:28
  bottom. They all kept asking where the
• 23:29
  edit mode was. I was like oh alright just
• 23:32
  scroll. I get I maybe if I was blows.
• 23:33
  I'm like you know what? F them.
• 23:34
  They're not even reading this. But but the conversation in the
• 23:38
  community is, come on, you didn't read the last last line.
• 23:41
  There it is, which is a completely different like that's
• 23:44
  no, as a as a person who maybe if I was the the guy, like who
• 23:52
  was the community manager, you know, the community going
• 23:56
  amongst themselves and being like, Hey, it's our last line.
• 23:58
  Just do this is far different than like everybody, like, Oh my
• 24:02
  God, it's not working. And like my God, they're going
• 24:05
  backwards in time and builds. Yeah, this is like scatter.
• 24:11
  Shut up to scatter, by the way. Great damage meter.
• 24:13
  Great damage. Meter, but I'm happy to see
• 24:18
  these changes. Honestly, I think that the, the
• 24:23
  stuff that I really want to see with the damage meters is stuff
• 24:29
  that I, I think that they're going to implement like it every
• 24:32
  time they do these these things and opens up, there's always the
• 24:35
  like your screen goes a little bit dim and it's like, Hey, make
• 24:38
  sure you click this for this option, Make sure you click
• 24:40
  through this. And every single time because
• 24:43
  like I'm being on the, I've been on the beta, I've read the
• 24:46
  articles, blah, blah, blah. I go, I just want to skip this,
• 24:48
  but that stuff I know they're going to put in, right?
• 24:51
  And so when I was saying, hey, it's unintuitive, I didn't hark
• 24:55
  on that that much because they have a proven track record.
• 24:59
  But as Sean has said multiple times, right, they have launched
• 25:04
  stuff without crucial features. And so other things I am very
• 25:09
  much concerned about. And so they need to address,
• 25:12
  address that not just based on like what they know is coming,
• 25:16
  but what they've actually communicated to us.
• 25:22
  With that said, I'm going to skip around a bit because I'd
• 25:27
  like to actually speak. About the same messaging coming
• 25:31
  up next. I'd like to talk about the
• 25:34
  mythic plus. OK, right.
• 25:36
  I'd like to talk about the mythic plus.
• 25:39
  They've they once again, we had that conversation last week.
• 25:44
  I was talking about some particular things.
• 25:47
  I had the complaint of Peter saw on being like, my goodness, this
• 25:52
  is the this is the worst case scenario.
• 25:54
  It it is so ridiculous. And then juxtaposing that we're
• 25:59
  saying like it's not even consistent.
• 26:02
  And then we get these hot fixes which hit the pit of saw on and
• 26:07
  another dungeon where number one on the list is we've reduced the
• 26:12
  mob density. And a big point on Pintasaron is
• 26:17
  the spam casting ads that I hated.
• 26:21
  They're just gone. They're gone.
• 26:24
  And so like, I remember watching you running, running this and it
• 26:31
  was like, this doesn't seem as bad as I remember because I
• 26:33
  hadn't seen this update. And I wish they had said, hey,
• 26:38
  we're putting this forward. We're we are already concerned
• 26:41
  about this and this. What was your impression of all
• 26:47
  of these? Because, again, it's still a
• 26:49
  work in progress and I think it still needs some improvements.
• 26:53
  Yeah, it's tough. It's, I had a talk today with
• 26:56
  Elsmere that was really good, really insightful, very
• 27:00
  passionate about the game and where the direction we're headed
• 27:03
  and everything. And one of the things that he
• 27:05
  pointed out is it's really tough to give feedback because as
• 27:09
  Blizzard has said, and as we have said, it might be Manny's
• 27:11
  favorite phrase, none of these things exist in a vacuum.
• 27:15
  So we've got class changes, we have UI changes, and we have
• 27:18
  dungeon testing to do. And then the whole entire
• 27:21
  philosophy of reduced complexity, reduced cognitive
• 27:24
  load, but for the same challenge that you're used to.
• 27:28
  And it's hard to judge how good or bad to the dungeons are when
• 27:34
  you're also fighting your UI in order to do some of the things
• 27:39
  in the dungeon. So when I tested through, they
• 27:41
  hadn't yet put the nameplate fix in yet.
• 27:44
  So nameplates were still sort of jumping all over the place.
• 27:46
  And the bug still exists. It is being addressed.
• 27:49
  But the bugs was still exists where nameplates have mobs that
• 27:52
  weren't in combat with you were like in amongst your nameplates
• 27:55
  that you were in combat with. So that's tough.
• 27:59
  And I really struggle. I am really struggling with the
• 28:02
  loss of information when it comes to external defensives
• 28:07
  that are available, AOE stops and kicks that are available
• 28:11
  from my party, and I imagine my healer friends are becoming even
• 28:15
  more frustrated than not knowing what defensives other players in
• 28:17
  the team have and that that was that was part of that.
• 28:22
  So I'll try to ignoring the UI issues, thinking just of the
• 28:29
  dungeons themselves. I would say that they're in a
• 28:33
  decent starting point, I think, but they they still are going to
• 28:39
  need lots of changes to bring them in line with the new world
• 28:44
  we live in where we just have no idea what any of our friends are
• 28:48
  capable of doing. Throat.
• 28:51
  And I actually, it's funny, I talked to Angie Lee about this,
• 28:52
  who only plays Warcraft that is very superficial level and
• 28:55
  explained to her the new changes that were happening and and that
• 28:58
  kind of information that we were losing.
• 29:00
  And she was like, well, that's so stupid.
• 29:01
  If this was real life and you were standing next to your
• 29:03
  friends, you would know if they could do something.
• 29:05
  And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I would, you know, if you have
• 29:11
  Anyway, it's just it was it was something that she thought was
• 29:14
  funny. So for the most part, I think
• 29:16
  these are OK Ick and Crick can suck.
• 29:19
  They are Ick and Crick is not. I'm a very good rhymer Manny,
• 29:23
  but Ick and Crick was not fun. The interrupt requirement on
• 29:29
  that fight is very high. There are three ads that are
• 29:32
  spawned. One of them casts A1 shot cast
• 29:36
  that you have to interrupt. The other two cast channeled
• 29:38
  interrupts or straight channeled spells that do a lot of damage
• 29:42
  that you want to interrupt and then you have to like target
• 29:44
  focus target, kill them. But only interrupts work, so
• 29:48
  stuns and CCS don't work. So now you're limited.
• 29:51
  You only have 4 'cause your your healer won't have one unless you
• 29:53
  have a resto shaman. Yep, maximum and we have because
• 29:56
  you have particular classes that just don't have interrupts.
• 29:59
  Yeah. So we we had four out of five
• 30:02
  people in our group were in voice comms and even we
• 30:05
  struggled to coordinate the kicks on that fight.
• 30:09
  And while that's happening, there's area of the Nile
• 30:11
  happening with the tank mechanic.
• 30:13
  Ick has a ton of health, so you're constantly moving him on
• 30:17
  and off of ads that you want to be cleaving that a priority
• 30:19
  kill. It was just a miserable fight,
• 30:21
  which was unfortunate because the other two bosses in that
• 30:24
  dungeon felt really good. Scourge Lord Tyrannus got a huge
• 30:28
  blow up from his wrath version. I would like I would say he was
• 30:33
  fun to do, very easy to understand the mechanics,
• 30:36
  everything. So Ick encrypt was rough and,
• 30:38
  and we struggled with the, like I said, the the lack of
• 30:41
  knowledge of who has what available.
• 30:43
  It's I, I know that they think that it's a competitive
• 30:47
  advantage. And it's not just a competitive
• 30:49
  advantage like it, it's, it feels required, like it, it, it
• 30:53
  is an advantage to know what people have interrupts
• 30:56
  available, what externals are available.
• 30:58
  But the solution shouldn't be to take that away from everybody.
• 31:01
  It should be to make it more obvious to everybody because it
• 31:05
  is so integral in doing keys at any level above 2.
• 31:11
  Like to not know even if you're in a pug now, I just don't know
• 31:14
  who's got kicks. So we're all going to overlap
• 31:16
  our kicks on the first cast every time.
• 31:19
  And then I don't know if you have a defensive.
• 31:21
  So do you need intervene? Do I need to sack you?
• 31:24
  I don't know. I don't know what defenses you
• 31:25
  have. I hope we're in voice comps.
• 31:27
  That's the only way. And you know, as a tank, can I
• 31:30
  call for can I call for iron bar?
• 31:32
  Can I call for guardian Spirit? And we don't know.
• 31:35
  And we're going to have to be in this world where it's just like,
• 31:37
  I don't know. It's it's it's rough, but that's
• 31:40
  not the dungeons. The dungeons specifically felt
• 31:43
  OK Algathar Academy, I think is going to suffer a lot from the
• 31:48
  change to name plates. One of the things Blizzards like
• 31:51
  the specifically the coloring mobs based on their type.
• 31:55
  One of the things Blizzard said was that they would they would
• 31:57
  adjust their naming convention so that it's easy to tell what
• 32:00
  mobs are casters and what mobs aren't, and they would do things
• 32:04
  like with the designs of the mobs as well.
• 32:06
  Well, in Alcather Academy, 60% of the mobs are an axe, a wand,
• 32:12
  or a book. Those are not very big models to
• 32:15
  see when you're playing at Max zoom, which a lot of people do.
• 32:19
  I will say though, I am not expecting a book to be a melee
• 32:22
  beater. I think I can successfully
• 32:25
  expect that the wand is a caster as well.
• 32:30
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right.
• 32:31
  You're right, but then it it goes to like the Dragons and it
• 32:36
  goes to some of the other characters, like the bugs that
• 32:38
  fly around the main area. They cast stuff you don't really
• 32:40
  know anyway, it's so it it felt okay.
• 32:44
  There's changes to oh, this is I want to highlight this.
• 32:46
  If you are listening to this show and you have played
• 32:49
  Dragonflight any season and you are getting ready to go into
• 32:52
  midnight and you're going to do Alba Thar Academy, they have
• 32:55
  changed to the way Kroth works. Kroth is the big bird, so in
• 33:00
  Dragonflight he would do a screech that every time he did
• 33:03
  it put a stacking debuff on the party when he threw the orbs out
• 33:08
  for kick a tall or whatever it's called.
• 33:12
  That rudest wind mechanic thing, yeah.
• 33:14
  Yeah, you would delay holding it, you would get pick up the
• 33:17
  ball and you would delay. No, it's it was never a channel.
• 33:23
  It was, it used to be. No.
• 33:25
  So it used to be his AOE screech would happen.
• 33:27
  Yeah. And that puts a debuff on.
• 33:29
  It's it's big damage, puts a debuff on the party.
• 33:31
  And then when you kick the balls through, it resets your stacks.
• 33:36
  So you would delay usually till about four stacks of the screech
• 33:39
  debuff before kicking that that third ball through.
• 33:43
  That has changed. Now it is a cast that he starts,
• 33:47
  the balls spawn and it's a very long cast.
• 33:49
  It's like 8 seconds, maybe 10 seconds.
• 33:52
  And if that cast gets off, it's just massive damage and you're
• 33:56
  going to die. So you're no longer delaying
• 34:00
  kicking the balls through. As soon as those balls spawn,
• 34:03
  you want to kick the first two through fast.
• 34:05
  You can hold on to the last one and kick it through just before
• 34:07
  his cast finishes, but you have to kick it through before his
• 34:10
  cast finishes. Otherwise it's going to be a bad
• 34:13
  time. So if you're going into
• 34:15
  midnight, that boss has changed. It's no longer delaying and
• 34:19
  holding on to those orbs. So please, please, please keep.
• 34:21
  If you're if you take nothing else from this episode today,
• 34:25
  take that and the fact that we're doing a giveaway over on
• 34:27
  YouTube. You can enter by just putting
• 34:29
  Faz gift in the description or in the comments of this video.
• 34:34
  There we set it in the middle. Nobody will ever guess.
• 34:37
  Got to be paying attention and put fast gift in the comments of
• 34:39
  this video. OK.
• 34:42
  Oh, and be following be following the the YouTube
• 34:44
  channel or subscribe to whatever it is.
• 34:46
  So again, a lot of this stuff is the right direction.
• 34:53
  It's just a matter of can, can they do this this in time?
• 34:58
  I know we're talking about mechanics and I feel like that
• 35:00
  stuff can, well, at least it has one additional week before the
• 35:06
  Mythic plus season opens up before we get into Season 1.
• 35:09
  But the entire behaviour and renaming mobs and and making
• 35:16
  sure that things are clear, that's part of the philosophy
• 35:20
  that they're putting down. And so that stuff I feel is
• 35:23
  something that should be like just going through the list and
• 35:28
  being like, do those have similar names?
• 35:30
  Do they have different functions?
• 35:32
  All right, we got it. We got to change that.
• 35:35
  And it's something that. Sorry, it's they don't have like
• 35:40
  even visually. So that's something I said is I
• 35:44
  would want every soap mechanic to look the same.
• 35:48
  Like if it's a soap, I want it to look the same so that I know
• 35:51
  this is a soap. If it's a frontal to avoid, I
• 35:54
  want it to always look the same so I know you know if it's a
• 35:56
  thing to get out of. They should all look the same.
• 35:58
  There should be no variation. Maybe the color, but that should
• 36:01
  be it. It should be easy for people to
• 36:03
  know what this is, and they do have a pretty good one for
• 36:05
  soaks. You get those little swirls that
• 36:06
  come up off of them that tells you if it's a soak.
• 36:09
  But you need to implement this stuff.
• 36:11
  Sky Reach has 0 new graphics there.
• 36:15
  In it there are two mobs that do frontals.
• 36:17
  One of them is a boss, one of them is a trash mob.
• 36:19
  The only indicator that a frontal is happening is that the
• 36:21
  enemy puts it's hand up. That's it.
• 36:24
  And then you have to be able to figure out what direction it's
• 36:27
  facing and then you have no idea Is it a line?
• 36:29
  Is it a cone? Is it 180°?
• 36:32
  There's and when I say like, there's no indicator.
• 36:34
  It's not like, oh, it's a slight indicator, there's no indicator.
• 36:38
  It's this prior knowledge of that of that boss.
• 36:40
  It's the only thing that's going to save you, which is something
• 36:43
  Ian was talking about about like, hey, does the does that
• 36:48
  knowledge carry through? Is that part of like like
• 36:52
  mastery of the game is like applying that knowledge.
• 36:55
  And I think there's a happy medium I have.
• 36:58
  I have no issue with like this boss having a frontal that is a
• 37:03
  line mechanic versus this boss having a a cone.
• 37:07
  But I feel like it needs to be properly telegraphed.
• 37:14
  We were talking about the ray ray testing last week and how
• 37:17
  there's that line for the one boss in the dream rift that
• 37:22
  like, I don't want to know was I like one toe in or or not.
• 37:26
  I want to know that that line is there.
• 37:29
  And I think that even if after the effect, the it's clearly
• 37:34
  shown that this is where that line was, it does.
• 37:37
  It really needs to be clear when the birds blow up in Sky Reach,
• 37:42
  right? I know.
• 37:42
  I want to know what that circle was and what the circle of the
• 37:45
  ashes was to see that overlap. I don't want to be like, oh, I
• 37:48
  was, I had this the slightest little bit of a Venn diagram,
• 37:52
  and that screwed up my run. Like that's, yeah, that's how
• 37:55
  you get frustration. And that's not changing the
• 37:58
  timing of any of these things. It's just better telegraphing,
• 38:02
  which is a issue that they were solving in the war within.
• 38:06
  And it's just that much more important now that they're
• 38:09
  taking away all these other things that were adjusting for
• 38:13
  mental load in other places. So overall, really good changes.
• 38:17
  Really happy to see the caster changes in the Pit of Song
• 38:21
  because I was very upset about that dungeon in particular.
• 38:26
  Looking forward to seeing some more changes because they've
• 38:28
  only adjusted 2 of the four. And then when we come back next
• 38:33
  week, we're going to get the other four dungeons for Season
• 38:36
  1. Yeah.
• 38:37
  When are we going to be able to test and practice with these
• 38:40
  ones? So, you know, let's see where it
• 38:42
  goes from there. That said, let's talk about the
• 38:49
  last boss of the Vortspire, which has been data mined.
• 38:54
  This was not available for ray testing, but Wowhead was able to
• 39:00
  see. It was tested.
• 39:01
  It was tested, yeah. Oh, sorry, wasn't scheduled for
• 39:05
  testing. People could get in and test it.
• 39:06
  Yeah, without. Shouldn't have been tested.
• 39:08
  Shouldn't have been able to be tested.
• 39:11
  Teams killed the boss prior to this and then had time to pull
• 39:15
  it. I see.
• 39:16
  OK. So, Sean, tell us about this
• 39:20
  unscheduled testing, because last bosses are not for the last
• 39:25
  little bit have been black boxes that you should not have been
• 39:29
  able to get hands on experience with.
• 39:31
  And I wonder if Blister is going to like radically change the
• 39:35
  boss because of this. Anyways, let's let's deal with
• 39:38
  that, yeah. I hope they do because the way
• 39:39
  he looks now not very difficult. So I don't want to give spoilers
• 39:43
  up for this boss because I know we probably have listeners who
• 39:46
  like to go into the raid fresh, so I'm not going to go deep into
• 39:48
  it. I just want to talk about 1
• 39:49
  mechanic, which was like the main mechanic that people were
• 39:51
  seeing during the testing. The boss flashes 4 symbols in a
• 39:56
  random order. They're the same symbols as the
• 39:58
  RAID markers or world markers. So they flash, flash four in a
• 40:01
  single in an order, then those four get applied to a person and
• 40:07
  then those people have to line up and the boss does a beam in a
• 40:10
  counterclockwise arc and it has to hit the icon, the symbol in
• 40:15
  the same order that it flashed them.
• 40:18
  And when this initially came out, people were like, oh, look,
• 40:22
  see, if we cores existed, they could never have done this boss.
• 40:26
  And that's wrong. And I don't I'm concerned that
• 40:34
  you don't know what a week or is if that was your take away from
• 40:37
  this boss, because the best way to deal with that mechanic would
• 40:43
  simply be to put a world marker down for each one as it spawns.
• 40:47
  Everybody you know, you're rave leader probably has world
• 40:49
  markers on a opie or a quick most wheel.
• 40:52
  So skull spawns, you put a skull down, diamond spawns, you put a
• 40:55
  diamond down triangle spawns, you put a triangle down X
• 40:58
  spawns, you put an X down and then the people just go stand on
• 41:01
  their marker. That would be the best way.
• 41:03
  A weak aura can't put world markers down.
• 41:06
  It simply can't. So this isn't a mechanic that
• 41:10
  was suddenly unlocked with the removal of weak auras.
• 41:14
  This was something that they could have done this year, for
• 41:17
  example, if they wanted to and. It.
• 41:22
  It sparked so I've, I was, I've been really thinking a lot about
• 41:27
  the statement that, you know, the arms race, the arms race.
• 41:29
  And I've said a couple times that I don't really believe that
• 41:31
  this arms race is real. And it, this really for me
• 41:35
  solidified that. I I really think it's
• 41:38
  disingenuous and it's a disservice to the Blizzard devs
• 41:43
  for them or for the community to say that there's this arms race
• 41:46
  and that that we Koras limit and restrict their design space
• 41:50
  because there are 7 bosses this raid tier that don't require
• 41:56
  weak auras. And it's it, it's one of the
• 41:58
  most fun and and most exciting raid tiers that I've ever
• 42:01
  played. And they designed that in a
• 42:03
  world where recourse exists, there's exactly 1 boss in this
• 42:06
  raid where you need a weak aura to solve it for you.
• 42:10
  And that was designed that way by choice.
• 42:13
  So I. Mean all bosses are designed by
• 42:17
  choice. Right.
• 42:18
  Yeah, yeah. Right, right, right, right.
• 42:20
  So I don't, I, I mean, I don't, I know they've said it, your
• 42:24
  design space is limited, but this boss is not an example of
• 42:27
  an opened a design space that was opened up by the removal of
• 42:31
  we cores. And in all honesty, none of the
• 42:33
  bosses we've tested, I haven't, we haven't tested anything yet.
• 42:37
  But none of the bosses we've tested on Heroic show any
• 42:39
  indication that they were. They had suddenly magically
• 42:42
  opened up ways and mechanics that they could use that would
• 42:45
  have been solved by weak cores. And these mechanics are not fun.
• 42:47
  It's all, it all feels like stuff they could have done this
• 42:50
  tier. And so it just makes me question
• 42:55
  even more, why are we in this situation?
• 42:57
  Anyway? The last boss was tested.
• 42:59
  If you want to see it, you. Can see it I I do want to I do
• 43:00
  want to speak on that. I think that you are right in
• 43:06
  that the main mechanics of the bosses that I have tested or
• 43:10
  seen tested have not been stuff that couldn't exist in a world
• 43:15
  with weak horse OK. However, the things that go in
• 43:20
  around those mechanics are the stuff that the escalations about
• 43:27
  in this testing versus previous testing, I have seen far less
• 43:35
  bosses that are like constant compelled movement with short,
• 43:39
  short, like I need to move immediately.
• 43:42
  I will say immediately. The exception that comes to mind
• 43:45
  is the tic tac toe boss. That boss has so many void zones
• 43:50
  that come out on a regular basis, but in terms of like
• 43:55
  structurally like how frequently you're pushing your casters to
• 43:59
  like split move to to avoid something or how much you're
• 44:04
  expecting players to handle this mechanic but also handle this
• 44:08
  mechanic. I think there's been a de
• 44:10
  escalation there in terms of like how many mechanics are
• 44:13
  overlapping right now, not in the exact way that they do
• 44:17
  mechanics and how quickly you're able to respond to this mechanic
• 44:22
  seems a bit more lenient. Like I could see this being
• 44:28
  something where I would compare it against oh, what's his name?
• 44:33
  Salador, right? Salador has this tank mechanic
• 44:37
  where it is ABBA or ABAB sort of sort of thing.
• 44:43
  And it requires pretty quick reaction time on the tank, spot
• 44:49
  on the tanks to respond to that. And if I was saying I need to
• 44:54
  give people more time to react to that intelligently without
• 44:58
  the use of some assistance right, I could see Salador being
• 45:04
  slower on how he cast those tank Busters.
• 45:08
  There's no weak aura for that that like there's not currently
• 45:12
  a weak aura for that. So it we are already dealing
• 45:14
  with that with a weak auras that that tank mechanic.
• 45:19
  Yeah, there's no like no weak, no, there's no weak or that
• 45:22
  assists you to make that decision faster.
• 45:25
  It's it like it doesn't exist. So it's not an example of
• 45:31
  something that was designed like it it it's not the casts aren't
• 45:35
  the speed they are because we're getting assistance from a weak
• 45:38
  or on them. There is no weak or assisting us
• 45:41
  on them. So those casts are just the
• 45:42
  speed they are. If they slowed that down that
• 45:44
  would be a massive snooze fest. No, but you're looking at the,
• 45:49
  you're looking at the, the, the that going along with the, the
• 45:54
  Dragons coming in from the side as well as the claws going out.
• 45:59
  I'm saying all the things collapsing in on top of each
• 46:02
  other. But there's no like there's no
• 46:04
  weak aura that solves any of that.
• 46:05
  That's. No, it gives you a heads up of
• 46:07
  like, hey, you've got the claw on you.
• 46:09
  Hey people drop off the these circles 2 on this side, 2 on
• 46:15
  that side like that's that stuff is all with.
• 46:18
  No, there's. I mean, you might get a, you
• 46:21
  might have a, a weak or that tells you you have a claw on
• 46:24
  you. But you should know that anyway.
• 46:26
  That shouldn't be, but. That's the change that they
• 46:28
  they've done with with this is that like instead of it being
• 46:31
  like claw on you, you have to be like, oh, this claw is on me,
• 46:35
  right? Like in my setup.
• 46:37
  And I'm not a mythic Raider, right?
• 46:39
  In my setup, when I get that claw, like it gives me an alert
• 46:43
  like it is separated from from from everything else.
• 46:47
  It gives me like a little thing that's like this is how long you
• 46:50
  have to get out before this claw gets dropped.
• 46:52
  So I can tie my jump back in, jump back in at at the right
• 46:56
  time, right? Like the amount of assistance
• 46:58
  that I have with that on top of the circles where it's like I
• 47:01
  get assigned to drop your circle off here.
• 47:03
  I'm not communicating with my team to be like, oh, like my
• 47:07
  rate leaders like being like Manny and Sean, you 2 are right
• 47:11
  and you other two people, you 2 are left to drop off the the
• 47:14
  gravity wells, right? That's being that's being
• 47:18
  assigned. No, we didn't.
• 47:20
  I mean, maybe there's a week we didn't.
• 47:23
  We just told people to make. So we're talking aerobic, I
• 47:25
  assume we just told people to make a cross with those gravity
• 47:27
  wells. Are you talking about the the
• 47:30
  the spiked balls at the end or the big circles and innovation?
• 47:32
  Balls at the end we just we would put 2 on either side.
• 47:34
  No, we just, we just put three world markers down and either
• 47:37
  for heroic, we put three world markers down on either side, one
• 47:40
  for ranged, one for melee. And we just told people get on a
• 47:42
  marker there. Nobody's assigned those and.
• 47:45
  Like you for us, we're going, we're going off.
• 47:48
  Yeah, like. Yeah, no, I mean, they're yeah,
• 47:50
  even on even on Mythic, they're not assigned.
• 47:52
  It's the like the one spot is it's like, hey, go to this world
• 47:56
  marker, but you don't need a week.
• 47:57
  Like there's no week or it tells you like that that's assigning
• 48:00
  you a spot to stand. It's just go to the weak or and
• 48:02
  then we're just saying in comms whether we're going left or
• 48:05
  right. Yeah, there's no weak or solving
• 48:07
  that. It's oh.
• 48:09
  Yeah, you can you. Could entirely do salad.
• 48:11
  I could turn all my weak ORS off into Salador.
• 48:14
  Are there, are there fights, are there other fights like?
• 48:16
  Fractalis is the only one. Fractalis.
• 48:19
  The only one. Every other fight you could turn
• 48:21
  off all your words. Like Fractalis is just like, is
• 48:23
  that the speed that you have to go to?
• 48:26
  It's not the speed, it's because there's no way.
• 48:28
  So you need a week or to do those computational solutions
• 48:31
  for you. When it's either too fast,
• 48:33
  there's not enough time to do it.
• 48:34
  And I guess in fact, this is the case that it's not enough time
• 48:37
  because there's no set logic to the assignment.
• 48:39
  Six people are getting assigned wall or sorry, four people are
• 48:44
  getting assigned wall builds and six people get assigned wall
• 48:47
  breaks and two sets of four. And there's nothing that says
• 48:52
  you know these 4, you know it's going to be 1 melee, 1 heeler, 2
• 48:55
  range. So it's too fast for four people
• 48:58
  to figure out where to go. Now, you could Lexus team did it
• 49:01
  on heroic. No Wee Goris killed it in one
• 49:03
  pole. Yeah, we didn't use the Oris for
• 49:07
  that. But in Mythic we, yeah, in, in
• 49:12
  Mythic we, we used it because the fight takes a little bit
• 49:14
  longer and it's the tank walls are 3 instead of 1.
• 49:17
  So there's more coordination to go with it.
• 49:20
  That's why it exists in mythic. But every like literally every
• 49:23
  single other boss in this raid, you could turn, you could you
• 49:26
  could uninstall Wekoras, the add on entirely and do all of these
• 49:30
  bosses. And that's why I'm so
• 49:31
  frustrated. Yeah, that's why it's so
• 49:34
  frustrating for me because like, and even in the mention of like
• 49:38
  a Wekoras saying, hey, you have a claw on you now with those
• 49:41
  claws, the way to deal with them is usually just to stay still.
• 49:43
  But a Wekor telling you like, yeah, the dragon claws just stay
• 49:47
  still. Why would you move?
• 49:49
  The boss moves around the room. We cut the boss around the room.
• 49:52
  Oh no, we kept the boss the middle.
• 49:53
  We just put the claws out. I mean, maybe, maybe it's
• 49:56
  different heroic. I can't remember specifically
• 49:57
  heroic, but but yeah, so we and even then you would just run out
• 50:04
  with the claw. There's you don't need an
• 50:05
  assignment for that, but the the game itself.
• 50:07
  It's just like. Yeah, yeah, but the game itself
• 50:09
  should tell you you there shouldn't be a question.
• 50:11
  I shouldn't have to think, do I have a debuff?
• 50:13
  The game itself should be alerting me to the fact that I
• 50:16
  have a debuff. Either through an arrow on your
• 50:19
  head, which I think the claws do, put an arrow on your head,
• 50:22
  or through a screen flash I think was something you
• 50:24
  mentioned one time that I love the idea of that I don't see
• 50:26
  ever. That would be great if like the
• 50:29
  edges of your screen just like that, whatever that the game
• 50:33
  should tell us. That's like so that that's why
• 50:35
  it's frustrating for me for them to say, Oh, we we're our design
• 50:37
  space is restricted by weak auras because they make these
• 50:40
  things because they make the game.
• 50:43
  You know, we can't we have to build around them and it's like
• 50:45
  this entire rate you're in. So last year was worse.
• 50:48
  You had sticks and you had lock and stock that both required
• 50:51
  weak auras and mugsy. It was beneficial.
• 50:56
  You probably need a different mugsy for the jails, but
• 51:00
  Galliwicks, no weak, not a weak car.
• 51:02
  Not a single weak car was required for Galliwicks.
• 51:04
  And that's why it's so infuriating to me.
• 51:06
  Not infuriating. It's frustrating when they say
• 51:09
  oh we need, we can't do what we want to do.
• 51:11
  I'm like, you have made some of the best bosses I've ever pulled
• 51:14
  in this world where weak cars exist and they don't require
• 51:17
  weak cars. So you absolutely 100% can
• 51:20
  design in this space where these things exist and not have them
• 51:24
  be needed. And that that's why it's
• 51:26
  frustrating for me for that, for that to be the the reason that
• 51:29
  we're losing a lot of customization of functionality.
• 51:35
  Yeah, No, Saladire is I could almost, yeah, you could turn,
• 51:39
  you could definitely turn off all your recourse and do
• 51:41
  Saladire. There's nothing that requires
• 51:43
  assignment marking. You just put world markers down
• 51:45
  and tell people to go to spots. I, I can see the, I can see the
• 51:49
  world markers and I'll, I'll say that I, I picked a bad example
• 51:51
  on that, but I could, I could point out at mythic plus where
• 51:56
  there is several, several things that people use.
• 52:01
  We were just talking about even to like track the stops that are
• 52:06
  needed to keep, keep things under control, which is just
• 52:09
  like any pack in Mythic Plus, right?
• 52:13
  That's that's there too. And if it were I, if it were
• 52:18
  designed like, you know, going back to Vanilla and we've got
• 52:21
  like classic servers. We've got BCE classic servers
• 52:24
  coming coming up soon. You had an interrupt and like,
• 52:29
  yeah, if somebody clipped your interrupt, it wasn't the end of
• 52:32
  the world because the spells weren't coming so frequently and
• 52:37
  they were doing the spam casters.
• 52:39
  And so now they've removed the spam casters as they've shown
• 52:42
  here in in one place. And I would be, and I think it
• 52:45
  should be fine where it's not necessary for you to know every
• 52:49
  single cooldown that's available because not every single
• 52:53
  cooldown needs to be coordinated, right?
• 52:55
  Not every single interrupt needs to be meted out so that we have
• 52:59
  one interrupt every six seconds. And you've only got people with
• 53:03
  24 second interrupts like that to me is designing around a
• 53:10
  inhuman level of coordination that we have now started
• 53:14
  creating in the in the community through use of these add-ons.
• 53:19
  And I think that is the escalation that that they're
• 53:24
  talking about where it becomes, hey, I need you to have a
• 53:30
  defensive for every tank Buster because I expect you to have a
• 53:35
  defensive for every tank Buster. And if you and now I need to you
• 53:39
  to have two more on top of that, because I expect you to be able
• 53:43
  to have and coordinate every single external.
• 53:47
  And so if you can't coordinate every single external, then
• 53:51
  Blizzard stop designing for Sean to have to call for every
• 53:55
  seagull external on the spot. And I think that's the
• 53:58
  escalation that needs to that needs to be adjusted.
• 54:01
  And then it becomes skillful for you to be for you to say, hey,
• 54:06
  this is coming up because the you could still see the
• 54:08
  timeline. However garbage the Blizzard
• 54:10
  default timelines are, you could still see the timeline.
• 54:14
  They're garbage. I'm not, I'm not defending the
• 54:16
  that that timeline. And I'm really glad that it can
• 54:19
  be skinned differently, right? But yeah.
• 54:22
  It's worse if you reskin it because it loads every single
• 54:26
  bar a boss. It loads every single bar up to
• 54:28
  the enrage again. For every cast, again,
• 54:30
  direction, direction, right? It will we get there?
• 54:35
  We don't know, but I would love for the skill expression to be.
• 54:42
  I work with a really good healer and they know that I'm going to
• 54:47
  send on the 1st 2:00 on the first two things, and then I'm
• 54:52
  going to ask for it on the on the third one.
• 54:55
  Or maybe you've gotten so good that you just don't have to ask
• 54:57
  for it from the third one. They just know that.
• 55:00
  And so that will help you as a coordinated team.
• 55:04
  That level I don't think should be the default expectation.
• 55:09
  And I think that when you put in on even the default, like let's
• 55:13
  say they give you your wish list and you on default, you know
• 55:17
  every single external they have to design for you to know and be
• 55:21
  able to grasp every single external that's out there.
• 55:24
  Right, I want them to. Vanilla's boring.
• 55:26
  If I wanted to play vanilla, I would play vanilla.
• 55:28
  No, but I go play classic. I like that it's fast, mate.
• 55:31
  I like having to have all of my defensives scheduled and planned
• 55:36
  down to the second. That is fun for me.
• 55:39
  I I think that would be fine for you and I think that would be
• 55:43
  fine for top end players. I don't think that it should be
• 55:46
  designed with that. You need that from A2 plus, as
• 55:49
  you said, right? And I think that if I were to
• 55:53
  backseat design, because you've now said that, I think that at a
• 55:56
  certain point, like let's say when Xalatas Guile comes into
• 56:00
  play, maybe that's when they speed up the the cadence of the
• 56:04
  casting that starts requiring you to start getting closer to
• 56:08
  that level so that people at the low end can miss an interrupt or
• 56:13
  or two people, people who are getting into the higher end,
• 56:17
  each interrupt hurts more. And then when you get up to that
• 56:20
  higher that like highest cutting edge, you need to be on top of
• 56:25
  that. But I don't think it should be
• 56:26
  in the base UI because as soon as it gets to the base UI, it is
• 56:30
  a. It is something that you need to
• 56:32
  design around people having that knowledge set at their
• 56:36
  fingertips. Just have it toggle able.
• 56:38
  Have it be able to be turned off?
• 56:40
  Toggle doesn't work. Toggle is is a entrapment.
• 56:45
  If it if it's in the game by default, and even if you have to
• 56:49
  hit a toggle to opt in, well then you are you are entrapping
• 56:54
  people for not toggling that on, right?
• 56:59
  OK, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.
• 57:03
  I don't think the people that that that stuff doesn't matter
• 57:05
  to, I don't think they care. I don't think any of this
• 57:07
  matters to them. I think this removal of add-ons
• 57:09
  for people that are playing in that level where a cast can go
• 57:13
  through and it doesn't kill you and it doesn't matter if you're
• 57:14
  using your defensives correctly or not.
• 57:16
  I don't think any like this doesn't even move the needle for
• 57:19
  them because they were never doing content that was difficult
• 57:22
  enough for it to matter. So, so there are two points to
• 57:26
  that, right? I think if they're doing content
• 57:30
  where it was not difficult for them for it to matter, they are
• 57:33
  doing content that they're over gearing in some aspect, right?
• 57:41
  That they're overpowering in some aspect.
• 57:43
  And I would and I would rather incentives for them to learn
• 57:46
  better and to push themselves further.
• 57:51
  Right. Yeah, then it to be.
• 57:53
  Those people are never going to do that if they wanted to get
• 57:55
  better. I said incentive.
• 57:56
  I didn't say that you could lead.
• 57:59
  You can lead a horse to water you cannot make.
• 58:01
  It those people wanted to get better, they would be doing it
• 58:04
  now. They want to over gear it.
• 58:06
  They want the overpower. They want to get their KSM in
• 58:08
  the last week of the preseason, of the postseason.
• 58:11
  That's just who they are and let them be happy.
• 58:14
  I think that I think there's a there is a subset of those
• 58:16
  players that are like that for sure, Sean, for sure 100% those
• 58:21
  people exist. You are 100% right on that.
• 58:24
  I just don't think that's the entire segment of players that
• 58:27
  are doing content at lower. No, obviously not.
• 58:29
  I'm being facetious, people. We need to Lexus in here.
• 58:32
  Someone's going to spice this up.
• 58:35
  Manny and I have been too agreeable.
• 58:36
  All episodes we have, we're. Just on the opposite end for
• 58:38
  that entire thing. Yeah, that's what that was.
• 58:41
  It's great. Yeah.
• 58:41
  Good job 'cause we're about to jump back on the same side, I
• 58:44
  think. With that said, I'm going to
• 58:48
  take a little bit of time. Well, actually, sorry, I
• 58:50
  shouldn't steal this away from you, Sean.
• 58:52
  I will let you do the patron things.
• 58:54
  My thing folks, I want to give a special thanks to all our
• 58:57
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  ears. I can't think of something
• 59:26
  better than having more Manny and Sean inside of you, and that
• 59:29
  is the best way to make it happen.
• 59:31
  I hear it now. I regret it instantly.
• 59:38
  Oh man. Well, if if you're going to
• 59:44
  allow us to be inside of you, maybe you want to look nice for
• 59:47
  it. And so with that, let's talk
• 59:48
  about some transmog. That might be my best segue to
• 59:53
  date. OK.
• 59:54
  That's pretty good, segue pretty good.
• 59:58
  So on top of all the damage meters, on top of all the issues
• 1:00:02
  with Mythic Plus and and and UI stuff.
• 1:00:06
  Blizzard is also upsetting people who are hardcore in a
• 1:00:10
  different aspect of play. These are the people who love
• 1:00:14
  their transmog. And Blizzard for Midnight is
• 1:00:18
  changing up the way transmog works.
• 1:00:20
  This is a new system. Wowhead had talked about it.
• 1:00:23
  Sean had specifically said hey guys, this is not free.
• 1:00:27
  This is not going to be free. And when Wowhead did a follow up
• 1:00:31
  article showing how true and how accurate Sean was, well, some
• 1:00:37
  people were not quite happy. While I had put out an article
• 1:00:42
  showing the cost that they had looked at on the beta and how
• 1:00:48
  much it would cost to unlock everything, how much it would
• 1:00:50
  cost to switch between stuff, how much it would cost to adjust
• 1:00:55
  these different outfits as you had set them up.
• 1:00:59
  And it was steep. It was very steep and so there
• 1:01:05
  was an uproar from all the people that you would expect or
• 1:01:09
  no, no, not really from all the people you would normally be
• 1:01:12
  saying oh, they're whining too much now, being really hit by
• 1:01:17
  A800K price tag to unlock all 20 slots, as well as additional
• 1:01:23
  costs and fees that may have applied as they were needed.
• 1:01:29
  So the fine print came in and people were not happy.
• 1:01:33
  There was an out roar again. The original article was from
• 1:01:38
  Wowhead, so Blizzard had not put out any explanation ahead of
• 1:01:43
  time. And then quickly Kyvax, Shawn's
• 1:01:46
  favorite developer. Show's favorite not.
• 1:01:50
  Just Shawn's show's favorite. He is mine getting roped up into
• 1:01:55
  this. He is mine too, but it's better
• 1:01:57
  if we say it's the show favorite.
• 1:01:58
  It's what's creepy at BlizzCon when I ask for hug.
• 1:02:00
  He's the show favorite. He's the show favorite.
• 1:02:03
  OK, all right, so then the show's.
• 1:02:06
  Favorite were for Legally Nervous, the show Favorite.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah, when the really nervous, bald, sweaty guy with a beard
• 1:02:12
  asks you for a hug, just let him know it's OK.
• 1:02:19
  So Kyvax went to the Force and posted that hey, this is just an
• 1:02:25
  early iteration and that the 800K charge was always going to
• 1:02:32
  be account wide, it just wasn't account wide right away.
• 1:02:35
  So it wasn't 800K per character, which is, you know, a lot.
• 1:02:41
  It's only 800 K per account, which is still a lot for some
• 1:02:46
  people. And then?
• 1:02:49
  The phrasing made it sound like it was a bug that they had, like
• 1:02:52
  he's. We're having a hard time getting
• 1:02:53
  that to work right now, so go OK.
• 1:02:55
  I wish that had been on the last line of the patch notes.
• 1:02:58
  Yeah, yeah. And like this makes sense
• 1:03:02
  because it like they have always been saying for a while that
• 1:03:06
  they are doing things way more on an account wide level.
• 1:03:10
  And so I guess it should have felt strange that it that this
• 1:03:14
  was something that was being done per character.
• 1:03:17
  But they went further and they were saying that the cost to
• 1:03:20
  unlock each outfit, the slot would be reduced by 80% and then
• 1:03:29
  the cost to save a full outfit because you have to save the
• 1:03:32
  these full outfits. Or if you change part of the
• 1:03:34
  outfit, if you like, change the entire outfit in that slot, that
• 1:03:37
  was going to be reduced by 60%. And then they also added thirty
• 1:03:45
  extra slots. So instead of 20 slots, you can
• 1:03:49
  now get up to 50 slots to save outfits.
• 1:03:56
  But they didn't say that that total cost was inclusive of the
• 1:04:02
  80% reduction. So when you add 60% increasingly
• 1:04:07
  more expensive slots, that kind of works against the 80%
• 1:04:14
  reduction. So I could see some people who
• 1:04:15
  are now wanted to unlock it all at 20 slots now wanting to
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  unlock it all at 50 slots, and it might be very much getting
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  right back to that 800K price tag again.
• 1:04:27
  Feels a lot like Black Friday when they change the baseline
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  price of the item and then like they mark it up and then say
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  it's on sale for 50%. Yeah, there was, I, I want to
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  jump in. There was 2 major issues with
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  it. So the hey, this is war bound.
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  It was going to be always going to always going to be war bound.
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  We were having trouble getting it to do didn't get to happen.
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  That needed to come out ahead of time.
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  The price reductions, that was all due to community feedback.
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  So that post that came out today, that these came out
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  separate, that post came out today.
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  It's fine for that post to come out after the fact.
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  We can't. We're not expecting Blizzard to
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  be able to read the minds of the player base and know that they
• 1:05:04
  think 800K is a lot of gold. But why this needed to be
• 1:05:09
  announced beforehand and announced by Blizzard is because
• 1:05:12
  Blizzard changed some naming conventions in this transmog
• 1:05:16
  system that in the Wowhead article people were reading the
• 1:05:20
  word outfit. So right now, outfit on retail
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  is any outfit that you design in the the transmog viewer and save
• 1:05:29
  it as an outfit. You can save up to 20 of these.
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  There's no cost to design them, no cost to save them.
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  It only costs to apply them in the new transmog system.
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  Those the name of those has been changed to custom sets.
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  Those are no longer called outfits.
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  Now outfits are the slots that you buy that at the time would
• 1:05:50
  cost up to 800,000 gold for 20. So people were reading that they
• 1:05:54
  were losing their outfit slots that they were creating
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  transmogana that they would have to pay.
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  And so I saw tweets and people on Twitch and now I have to pay
• 1:06:03
  for something that I get for free right Currently, why would
• 1:06:06
  they do this? It's like, well, they didn't.
• 1:06:08
  Those are custom sets. Blizzard needed this because
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  this system is such a massive change.
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  This had to come. You know, we get those housing
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  articles where it's like, here's what a house is, you know, have
• 1:06:17
  fun in your neighborhood. You have to have the game to buy
• 1:06:20
  a house. We needed that for this trans
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  mug set to come out and it needed to explain the
• 1:06:24
  differences. Used to be called outfits, now
• 1:06:26
  called custom sets, still free. And I think they're on capped
• 1:06:29
  now actually here in this tab over here next to the sets that
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  we designed for you that now show up even if they're not
• 1:06:37
  full, which is a huge like this whole transmark system is so
• 1:06:39
  good. There's so many wins in this new
• 1:06:41
  transmark system. And then they needed to explain
• 1:06:43
  these outfits are not the outfits you're used to now
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  they're these slots. And if you're a person who sets
• 1:06:48
  it and forgets it, you're going to have that one time cost and
• 1:06:51
  you're never going to pay again. And you're always going to wear
• 1:06:52
  that same dope trans mug that you wear all the time and it's
• 1:06:54
  going to be awesome. It was the people who changed
• 1:06:57
  their outfits a lot that we're going to be hitting, getting hit
• 1:07:00
  with those high costs. And anybody who wanted to have
• 1:07:02
  multiple things set up for scenarios, which is the other
• 1:07:05
  new thing added to this trans mug set where like you can set
• 1:07:07
  it. So when I'm sky riding, I'm
• 1:07:10
  wearing one of those sky rider outfits that I got from
• 1:07:12
  struggling through the dragon races, you know.
• 1:07:15
  And if I'm underwater I can wear the scuba set that I've never
• 1:07:17
  put on once. But I had to buy and then
• 1:07:19
  complain that I didn't have enough traders tenders to buy
• 1:07:21
  other things even though I bought this thing I'm never ever
• 1:07:23
  going to wear. Which is a lot like real life
• 1:07:27
  when I complain that I don't have enough money for something
• 1:07:29
  but I already own 8 cameras anyway.
• 1:07:33
  Why do I keep buying cameras Mandy?
• 1:07:35
  So all these changes are good, but this, this post and the war
• 1:07:39
  bound announcement had to come before so much.
• 1:07:43
  And then people can, they can give the feedback like if, if
• 1:07:46
  all of that is known, if, if we know what outfits are, we know
• 1:07:49
  what custom sets are, we know what scenarios are and we know
• 1:07:52
  it's going to be war bound. Then people look at the sticker
• 1:07:55
  price and they're not freaking out.
• 1:07:59
  They're still upset because it's still a really high number and
• 1:08:01
  they can give that feedback, but it's less.
• 1:08:03
  It's it's like you mentioned, like when we know that you have
• 1:08:06
  your eye on this stuff already, we're not so worried about what
• 1:08:09
  what might get missed. And this came out and people
• 1:08:11
  were just like, Oh my God, well, how is this so much worse than
• 1:08:14
  what we have now? You know, and I'm just like, we
• 1:08:18
  still don't have damage taken. I don't trans.
• 1:08:23
  Also, people need to realize that they're not addressing
• 1:08:26
  inflation, like the amount of gold you get for a world quest
• 1:08:30
  in The War Within versus the amount of gold you got for a
• 1:08:33
  world quest. And Dragonflight and Shadowlands
• 1:08:35
  has constantly been going up, right?
• 1:08:37
  The amount of play money just a regular casual player has is
• 1:08:43
  going to go up. And so the cost of these things
• 1:08:47
  is somewhat in line with that. Like I, I suspect it would have
• 1:08:51
  been better in the Wowhead article.
• 1:08:53
  And I'm not going to ask Wowhead to be, to be less sensational
• 1:08:59
  about their journalism. That's not, that's not my place.
• 1:09:03
  But if they had shown the cost of a level 80 doing a transmog
• 1:09:10
  on live versus a level 80 on beta to actually compare apples
• 1:09:16
  to apples, I think that this could have really helped a bit.
• 1:09:22
  If the article had taken some time to say, oh, all of all of
• 1:09:29
  this here, when it gets shifted over to the beta, means that
• 1:09:33
  you're going to have to do these costs here, right?
• 1:09:36
  It would have been better. Now, I do want to say, though,
• 1:09:39
  that in Wowhead's defense, in the article, which I feel some
• 1:09:44
  people complaining on the Internet didn't do, they showed
• 1:09:48
  what you had just said where hey, these sets, they're going
• 1:09:52
  to be shifted into this new column here.
• 1:09:54
  And this is where it's going, right?
• 1:09:56
  So like, I don't I like I want to be I.
• 1:09:58
  Didn't have that in the title though.
• 1:10:00
  Manny, I just read the title, but I need the I'm going to need
• 1:10:05
  Wowhead to start putting all this information in the titles
• 1:10:08
  because it's all people are reading.
• 1:10:10
  That's it. They.
• 1:10:11
  Just need 700 word title, please. 700 word title.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah, it can. Here's what the title should
• 1:10:17
  have been. And, and in all honestly, their
• 1:10:18
  title isn't we're, we're sort of saying that sometimes they're
• 1:10:22
  sensationalist or click, click baity is a term that a lot of
• 1:10:24
  people use, but their title is, is not.
• 1:10:26
  It's like it's pretty pretty pretty plain and accurate.
• 1:10:30
  It costs up to 5700 gold to save a full transmog to an outfit
• 1:10:34
  slot in midnight. That's just a fact.
• 1:10:37
  There's no sensation. But what I need you to add to
• 1:10:40
  that, Wowhead is also outfits are called something different.
• 1:10:43
  Now you're going to keep your outfits.
• 1:10:45
  Also, if you're only changing one piece, it's the last.
• 1:10:47
  Also, this is at level 90. What is this, an anime title?
• 1:10:51
  I went to midnight and became a Phantom warrior in a close shop.
• 1:10:57
  No no no, I do think that it is the the point that they chose to
• 1:11:04
  highlight is sensational right? My goodness, look at this 4
• 1:11:11
  figure number to change an outfit slot right with the
• 1:11:16
  explanation. Of what, An outfit slot?
• 1:11:19
  Is right. OK, All right.
• 1:11:22
  Coming further down into the article.
• 1:11:24
  And so if you are somebody who just clicks through and just
• 1:11:27
  read the article and then jumps onto Twitter because I don't
• 1:11:31
  have time to read all of that and look, they got a chart.
• 1:11:33
  Oh no. Yeah, or doesn't even read, just
• 1:11:36
  scrolling Twitter sees the headline and then just
• 1:11:39
  immediately hits quote, retweet and, you know, F you in giant
• 1:11:43
  letters across the screen. Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  OK. All right.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah. So I'm not going to put this all
• 1:11:50
  on Wowhead, but I feel like they're feeding into this
• 1:11:53
  deficiency of the Twitterverse, as it were.
• 1:11:57
  Girls going to girls going to eat Manny girls.
• 1:11:59
  Got to eat, I guess, I guess. Well, no, no, no shade to shade
• 1:12:05
  to squishy. They got to get got to get his
• 1:12:07
  money, got to get his purse. Baby that wasn't.
• 1:12:09
  Squishy. Who wrote that one?
• 1:12:11
  Yeah, I don't even know who wrote this one.
• 1:12:12
  You get that bag, Squishy, You get it.
• 1:12:14
  It was squishy you get that bag. Squishy, you get that bag.
• 1:12:19
  Anyways, I I do find that the moral of today's episode is
• 1:12:27
  proactive communication, which goes a long way and can help
• 1:12:32
  shape the feedback that they're getting into far more
• 1:12:35
  constructive and focused means. And so yeah, I'd like to start
• 1:12:41
  talking about some some other things other than how screwed up
• 1:12:44
  the UI is. But because it is such an
• 1:12:48
  important part of the end game and how literally how people
• 1:12:54
  interface with this game, it is going to be a topic that we are
• 1:12:57
  going to revisit quite often. Yeah, we'll get there.
• 1:13:03
  I believe, I believe. That's a better better position
• 1:13:08
  that you than you were in earlier this week.
• 1:13:11
  I am pretty sure I said fire everybody and start over.
• 1:13:16
  I was. I was quite frustrated earlier
• 1:13:19
  in the week. We've grown since grown since
• 1:13:22
  then. And hopefully we will grow yet
• 1:13:26
  again next week. But until next time, may all
• 1:13:28
  your hits be crit.