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  Speaker 2: So there's this big story coming out of Washington, DC
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  Speaker 2: and out of the negotiations around the supposed piece.
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  Speaker 1: Deal between.
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  Speaker 2: Between Ukraine and Russia moderated by the United States, around
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  Speaker 2: the role that Witcoff Withitcoff has played in it, and
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  Speaker 2: leaked transcripts, leaked video, eleaked audio of his conversations with
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  Speaker 2: Russian's Russian advisors to Putin, and it's come to be
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  Speaker 2: known at least, I think in the ran book Circles
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  Speaker 2: at least as Witcuff Gate.
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  Speaker 1: Witcuff Gate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is so pathetic, it's ridiculous, and.
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  Speaker 1: He should be fired. He should have been fired immediately.
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  Speaker 2: He should be excluded from all future negotiations and all
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  Speaker 2: future events and all future all future discussion about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But it won't happen because he's a Trump like character.
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  Speaker 2: He's a real estate developer from New York City and
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  Speaker 2: therefore is a world class.
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  Speaker 1: Uniquely qualified expert to do.
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  Speaker 2: Geopolitics, and nobody can replace him. So there's no way
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  Speaker 2: he's going anywhere anyway. Let's review a little bit what happened.
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  Speaker 2: In early November. A twenty eight point proposal was drafted
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  Speaker 2: by Steve Whitgoff and Putin's aid Kirol Dimitriev. That proposal
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  Speaker 2: is leaked in early November. It's it's terms, including the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Ukraine would see land and that Ukrainian military
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  Speaker 2: would be have to be you know, small and controlled
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  Speaker 2: by in a and you know, Russia were dictated all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of other military restrictions, no natal participation, no foreign
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  Speaker 2: troops on Ukrainian land, and all the rest of it
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  Speaker 2: completely one sided. Basically, it's a twenty eight point proposal
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  Speaker 2: written seems like written by the Russians on November twenty first.
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  Speaker 2: November twenty first, basically, President Trump basically demands Ukraine accept
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  Speaker 2: the deal by thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: This deal twenty eight points as written.
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  Speaker 2: Otherwise, he threatens to cut off all critical US military
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  Speaker 2: and intelligence aid, including intelligence is the lysk. He refuses,
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  Speaker 2: he goes on one of these try it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one of his is crazy. You know, things about how
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine started the war and so off, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: Kiev is put under this impossible situation where it's been
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  Speaker 2: pressured to capitulate. Then onw a second A day later,
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  Speaker 2: U S senators at a a security forum told that
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  Speaker 2: Secretary of State Marco Rubio is you know, is telling
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  Speaker 2: them that the plan is not an American farm policy,
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  Speaker 2: that indeed, it's just a Russian wish list and the
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  Speaker 2: US was just passing along the Russian wish list. The
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  Speaker 2: same day, the administration, including Rubio, immediately deny that he
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  Speaker 2: told the senators. D and embraces the plan, claims it
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  Speaker 2: was authored by the US and it's just a framework
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  Speaker 2: for further negotiations, and it's not a Russian wish list.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't written by the Russians. This is an American policy.
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  Speaker 1: Jd Van. Then this is on the twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, in between the twenty second and twenty fifth, right,
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio fliesaid Geneva meets with the Ukrainians. They now
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  Speaker 2: modify the plan with more Ukrainian input. It's becoming less
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  Speaker 2: and less Russia's wish list and more and more.
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  Speaker 1: Taking into account Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: But nothing has been agreed upon because Lensky's coming to
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  Speaker 2: meet with Trump in order to finalize the final details
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  Speaker 2: of this. The most controversial points like NATO membership and
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  Speaker 2: now giving up giving dun Bus, the whole of dune
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  Speaker 2: Bus to the Russians. But yesterday Jedi Vance goes on
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  Speaker 2: a Twitter attack against you know, senators like Mitch McConnell
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  Speaker 2: and others who were attacking the plan as basically forcing
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine to surrender, which it was absolutely that, and Vance
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  Speaker 2: is like, no, no, no, we have to back this initiative.
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  Speaker 2: This is the only way to get peace. Peace is
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  Speaker 2: the ultimate value. Nothing else matters.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about peace, peace peppiece. And then yesterday Bloomberg.
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  Speaker 2: Releases a transcript of a recorded call, a recorded call
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  Speaker 2: between Whitcough and Putin's fan policy aid Yui Ushakov. And
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  Speaker 2: in this phone call, this is a phone call. And
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  Speaker 2: let's let's go back in time a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: This is a this is uh, let.
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  Speaker 2: Me just see, I had a timeline here of of
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  Speaker 2: the phone call.
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  Speaker 1: One second. Uh. This is a phone call that was made.
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  Speaker 1: What is it? I did it? I had it. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's gone, it's gone. It's the speared all right, we.
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  Speaker 2: Can recreate this. This is basically a phone call that
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  Speaker 2: was made. If you remember, you know the twenty points,
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  Speaker 2: the twenty points a piece deal with between Hamas and
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  Speaker 2: Israel is approved and signed, and then Trump is is
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  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, all excited and everything, but he's
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  Speaker 2: pissed off at Putin and he basically is talking about
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  Speaker 2: giving Tomahawk missiles to Zelensky. And he's he's he's considering
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  Speaker 2: giving them Tomahawk missiles and is expressing his support for
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  Speaker 2: Zelinsky and is talking pretty negatively for the first time
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  Speaker 2: about Putin. And you know, and oh, here it is, okay,
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  Speaker 2: here you are. October October thirteenth, Trump addresses, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Knesset in Israel. He's in Israel October fourteenth. On
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  Speaker 2: October fourth teenth, Witkoff speaks to Ushakov and they talk about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they talk about the fact that Zelensky is coming.
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  Speaker 2: And remember Trump has suggested that he's going to prove
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  Speaker 2: Tomahawk missiles. And what Whitcoff is advising Ushakov is that
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  Speaker 2: Putin called Trump before Zolensky arrives. Olynsky is about to
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  Speaker 2: arrive in the seventeenth. This is the fourteenth. Whitcoff tells
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  Speaker 2: Ushakov that what they need to do is draw up
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  Speaker 2: a twenty eight. But you know, Applian similar to what
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  Speaker 2: was just signed by Hamas and Israel, and that Putin
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  Speaker 2: needs to call Trump up and express support for first
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  Speaker 2: of all, suck up to Trump, tell Trump how he
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  Speaker 2: admires his peacekeeping ability and how wonderful Trump, and suck
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  Speaker 2: up to Trump, which is standard protocol, right, and then
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  Speaker 2: suggest that Putin should suggest to Trump a you know
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  Speaker 2: a a a similar point piece deal between Russia and Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that would and the Putin should say
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  Speaker 2: that that would be impossible if Trump agrees to the
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  Speaker 2: Tomahawk deal.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He says, you know, Zelenski's coming to the White House
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  Speaker 2: and fighter. This is direct quote from the transcript. Zelenski
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  Speaker 2: is coming to the White House and fighting.
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  Speaker 1: I will go to.
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  Speaker 2: That because they want me there, but I think, if possible,
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  Speaker 2: we have the call with your boss before that fight
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  Speaker 2: a meeting. Uschakov asks Whitcoff whether it would be useful
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  Speaker 2: for Putin to call Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Whitcuffs say yes.
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  Speaker 2: He also recommends that Putin congratulate Trump for the Gods
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  Speaker 2: of Peace deal, say that Russia had supported it and
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  Speaker 2: that he respects the president.
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  Speaker 1: Does a man of peace.
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  Speaker 2: And then Wickcuff says to Shankov from that it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a really good call. Here's what I think
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  Speaker 2: would be amazing. Witcuff ads. Maybe he says to President Trump,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Stephen Yuri discussed a very similar twenty point
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  Speaker 2: plan to peace, and that could be something that we
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  Speaker 2: think might move the needle a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We'll open to those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 2: Oushakov seems to take some of that advice aboard and
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  Speaker 2: he says that Putin will congratulate and then say, mister
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  Speaker 2: Trump is a peaceman, a real peace man.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, two days later, Putin Callstrump. The call goes
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  Speaker 2: on for two and a half hours. Trump calls it
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  Speaker 2: very productive, and you know, he announces that he is
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  Speaker 2: going to meet with the Russian leader in Budapest, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, he mentioned in his press conference that Putin
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  Speaker 2: congratulated him for Gaza. And following that call, you know,
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  Speaker 2: then Widcoff meets with Kirol Dimitriev and according to a
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  Speaker 2: native dmmetriv gave to Axios, dimetri Of told Acxios he
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  Speaker 2: spent three days in Miami from October twenty fourth, and
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  Speaker 2: that's when they pretty much put this twenty eight point
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  Speaker 2: plan together on October twenty ninth, after Miami, Dmitrievnashakhov spoke
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  Speaker 2: by phone in Russian and debade it.
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  Speaker 1: And again the transcripts of this go figure where that
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  Speaker 1: comes from.
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  Speaker 2: They debated how strong the Moscow should push for its
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  Speaker 2: demands in any piece proposal, and you know, the two
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  Speaker 2: aids are considering the various options and the shock of
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  Speaker 2: augues for asking for the maximum in this submission to
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  Speaker 2: the White House. You know, he's concerned that if they
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  Speaker 2: give in a little bit, the US might miss a
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  Speaker 2: tipid any proposals as you know that they're willing to
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  Speaker 2: compromise on anything, and they're not. And uh yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: says he will talk to Putin and this is the paper,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is the position they hold, and Putin
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  Speaker 2: will will support this. H Anyway, we can't tell if
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  Speaker 2: that's what they talked about.
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  Speaker 1: Is exactly what the twenty eight point proposal is.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, all of this, all of this is
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  Speaker 2: being orchestrated by basically Witkof and the Russians, And as
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  Speaker 2: far as we know, Secretary of State Marco Rubio knows
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  Speaker 2: nothing about this. Trump probably knows nothing about this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Witkoff is running his own operation basically clearly and equivocally
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  Speaker 2: one sidedly in support of Russia. Now I showed you
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  Speaker 2: or we talked about the fact that on Tucker's show, Witkoff.
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  Speaker 1: A month or two.
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  Speaker 2: I can't rearn when it was exactly said how much
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  Speaker 2: he thought that basically Putin was a good guy any
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  Speaker 2: worked over seventeen Selinsky visit the White House. It does
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  Speaker 2: not go well for Zelensky, of course, because Trump has
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  Speaker 2: just had a conversation which with puts In, and we
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  Speaker 2: talked about this, and which which In complimented him and
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  Speaker 2: said he wants peace and compliment him as a peace person,
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  Speaker 2: and of course he is. Ze Lansky leaves without any Tomahawks,
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  Speaker 2: indeed in.
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  Speaker 1: A much weaker situation than he was before.
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  Speaker 2: Again, October twenty fourth to twenty sixth, Witcoff meets DMITRIUV
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  Speaker 2: in Miami. October twenty seventh, Dmitri and Ushkoff have their
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  Speaker 2: strategy meeting, and then the twenty eight point thing is released.
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  Speaker 2: And now as of yesterday we have transcripts of all
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  Speaker 2: of this, of Whitcoff basically dictating FOM policy for the
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  Speaker 2: United States and being.
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  Speaker 1: One sided, and which is just unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Whitcuff is basically given the Russians advice and out of
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  Speaker 2: handle Trump compliment him peace, you know, man of peace,
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff, and if you do all this conversation
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  Speaker 2: will go well. Witcuff, you know, at this point is
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  Speaker 2: basically a Russian agent. He's working with the Russians. And
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing, you know, you have to feel sorry
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  Speaker 2: for the Ukrainians. I mean, justice demands that we side
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  Speaker 2: with the Ukrainians. Ukrainians were attacked with no provocation by
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  Speaker 2: the Russians. They are fighting in self defense the aggressor
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  Speaker 2: of the Russians. And since Trump came to office, he
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  Speaker 2: has treated Zelenski.
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  Speaker 1: Horribly. He's treated Putin with great respect.
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  Speaker 2: He has denied aid to Ukraine and basically taken on
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  Speaker 2: Russia's talking points as his own. Put maximum pressure on Zelensky.
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  Speaker 2: Is if Zelensky is a bad guy, as if Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: are the bad guys, to cape too late, to compromise,
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  Speaker 2: basically to surrender. Now Zelaski somehow managed, I think because
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio is basically pro Ukraine. Marco Rubio has a
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  Speaker 2: lot more sense than any of these other people than
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  Speaker 2: Witcoff or or Trump or any of his other advisers.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like and.
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  Speaker 2: Slowed things down and and and you know to a
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  Speaker 2: point where we'll see where this piece piece deal deals.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just it really does seem unbelievable. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean during.
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  Speaker 2: The call last month, here's some more quotes on the call,
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  Speaker 2: Whitcoff said me to you, I know what it's going
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  Speaker 2: to take to get a piece deal done.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He's telling the Russians what they can expect to get
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  Speaker 2: from the Americans right, done, ask and maybe a land
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  Speaker 2: swap somewhere. But I'm saying, instead of talking like that,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk more hopefully, because I think we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get a deal here. He then goes on and says,
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  Speaker 2: the President will give me a lot of space and
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  Speaker 2: discretion to get to get the deal. So if we
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  Speaker 2: can create that opportunity that after this, I talked to
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  Speaker 2: Yuri and we add a conversation, I think that could
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  Speaker 2: lead to big stuff. Oschakov says, Okay, that sounds good.
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  Speaker 2: What else would you say? Widcov is basically handing him
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing on a silver platter. I mean, arguably,
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  Speaker 2: you know this is treeson us, but you know if
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  Speaker 2: Russia is an enemy, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's just terrific, just to Briffic. And this is the
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  Speaker 1: quality of.
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  Speaker 2: Trump, you know, farm policy, this is the quality of
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  Speaker 2: how he negotiates. These are the people he puts in charge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean again, Whitcuff is a real estate agent. A
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  Speaker 2: real estate guy built commercial real estate in New York
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  Speaker 2: at the same time Trump built residential And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just put this aside, no proof, nothing but Whitcuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in his real estate dealings in Manhattan, in
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  Speaker 2: New York, lots of connections to Russian expats, to Russian honagous,
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  Speaker 2: to Russian capital involved in I mean remember many of
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  Speaker 2: those many of many of the buildings, the condos that
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  Speaker 2: were built in New York, we're funded and ultimately bought
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  Speaker 2: by Russian interests. So we have here a senior official
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  Speaker 2: in the Trump administration, one with a direct connection to
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  Speaker 2: Trump and reporting directly to Trump, not to Marco Rubi
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  Speaker 2: or anybody else, advising an adversary on how to handle
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  Speaker 2: Trump and how to handle them, and what they can
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  Speaker 2: expect in terms of a compromise going into the negotiation.
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  Speaker 1: Who they all needs to negotiate when.
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  Speaker 2: You've got completely insight track on what the other party
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  Speaker 2: is arguing. So now Whitcoff, there's also the corruption, the
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  Speaker 2: issue of Whitcoff's son managing a big crypto crypto fund
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  Speaker 2: or something that the Katari Katari's are heavily invested in,
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  Speaker 2: and of course that had a lot to do with
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  Speaker 2: Wikoff shuttling off the Kata all the time in these
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  Speaker 2: negotiations with for the Kamas Israel deal.
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  Speaker 1: This is not an honest player. This is not a
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  Speaker 1: rational player.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a America first player, America first, properly
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  Speaker 2: understood player. This is a corrupt inside who wants to
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  Speaker 2: manipulate the geopolitical situation out there based on his whims
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  Speaker 2: and his favorites. Now I suppose that Jared Kushner was
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  Speaker 2: also involved in some of these meetings that put together.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty eight point piece plan.
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  Speaker 2: Jared Kushna who Jared Kushner think that has a lot
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  Speaker 2: of interest in the Middle East, and who knows the
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  Speaker 2: players in the Middle East and has done a good
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  Speaker 2: job in them. At least, I don't know if he
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  Speaker 2: knows anything about Russia or anything about Ukraine, and and
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  Speaker 2: certainly I don't think he has the right do political
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  Speaker 2: sense around Ukraine and Russia, or the right moral sense
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  Speaker 2: around Ukraine and Russia.
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  Speaker 1: And here's another you know, uh, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And then Trump defends Witkoff and he says, yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is how you negotiate. You leak some stuff and this
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  Speaker 2: is just negotiation tactics. Yeah, if you want the other side,
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  Speaker 2: if you've chosen the winners of negotiation, you want to
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  Speaker 2: help one of the sides, this is how you negotiate. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the other issue is so so Whitcoff basically
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  Speaker 2: is the man responsible for that phone call that basically
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  Speaker 2: side railed this Olinsky puts Zilinsky Trump meeting in October
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  Speaker 2: and even by talk, I told you Trump is excited
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  Speaker 2: by their life. Person he talks to and Putin hasn't
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  Speaker 2: rupped around his finger, and that every time he talks
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  Speaker 2: to Putin he goes against the Lensky. Well, now it
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  Speaker 2: turns out that Witcuff set it all up. Now the
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  Speaker 2: question is, of course, who leaked these conversations, the conversation
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  Speaker 2: between Witcuff and uh and this uh Whuschakov.
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  Speaker 1: There's a conversation to Schakov and the and the and
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  Speaker 1: the other Russian. Who's leaking all this.
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  Speaker 2: Some claim that it's some rogue element within the American
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  Speaker 2: NSA who listens to all these conversations. Some say it
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  Speaker 2: was the Russians who leaked it because they want to
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  Speaker 2: embarrass the US. Some say it's some other foreign agents,
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  Speaker 2: maybe the Ukrainians have the ability to listen into Witcoff's phone.
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  Speaker 1: Calls, or these Raeli's or somebody else what's his name.
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  Speaker 2: Ushakov has Uh is now saying that it's really What's
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  Speaker 2: Up that leaked it. He's saying that the conversation between
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  Speaker 2: him and Wikoff was not done on a secure line,
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  Speaker 2: like a secure communication between countries, but it was actually
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  Speaker 2: done on WhatsApp. And now What's pp by the way,
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  Speaker 2: just as a side, as a funny if you think
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it's funny, funny aside, is an app that is banned
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: in Russia unless you're a senior person within the Russian administration,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and then of course you can use it. Now, if
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it really wasn't WhatsApp, how is it intercepted? So either
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: there's a back door to the app, which of course
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Meta denies, and somebody has access to that back door,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: or Ushakov's device is infected with spy or Witcuff's device
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: is affected with spyware, or they somehow somewhere used on
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: a secured connection and didn't use what's Up. They just
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: used a regular call and now they're just claiming it
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: was what's up. Anyway, all of this super intriguing. Who
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: knows what'll come of it? And uh, yeah, let's see
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the dumb Yeah, I mean the confirmation is basically what
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: we're getting now is confirmation that the points the twenty
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: eight points or Russian points Russian side of the deal,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: and that cough together with the Russians. It makes you
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: manipulating Trump and that what's happening is that Rubio is
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: trying to somehow save save a deal, save Ukraine's saved
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: us from being a completely one sided.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Capitulation to the Russians.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: So good for Rubio, you know, at least he seems
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like he's good for something, not much, but maybe something,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: given how bad the Trump administration is. Having somebody like
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Rubio inside trying to correct things as they happen, maybe
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: that's cool. Oh right, Just a note relating Russia to tariffs.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I saw this graft today and it's it's pretty amazing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Do you know the only country. We've talked about this
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: in the past, but it's always good to highlight this.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: And basically under the heading of what is putin god Trump?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, but it's so spooky how pro
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: putin Trump is not only in negotiations between Ukraine and Russia,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: but we're tariffs. The only country in the world basically
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: has I don't know, basically no tariffs with the United States.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Is Russia. Zero teriffs.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Basically the highest tarifts that were China at around forty percent,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and then a bunch of US allies, you know, like
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Japan is just under to these effective effective tariff rates
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: are taking into account all the exclusions and everything. Given
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: all the goods imported from Japan, the tariff is close
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to twenty percent. South Korea it's close to fifteen. Turkey
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: is colas at fifteen, Germany's coast at the fifteen. Brazil
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: is not closer to ten, Italy is close to the ten,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: India is just under ten, EU is under ten, France
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: under ten, Australia closer to five, UK closer the five,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Mexico closer the five, Argentina closer to five. But you
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: can see Japan and ally particularly Visavi, China, South Korea
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and ally particularly Visavi China, Germany, Italy, you know, NATO members, Yeah, Hi, Caraffs, Russia, Nada.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Zero.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So I'll ask again, what does Putin have on Trump?
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I really don't know, and I don't
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: know if he has anything.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: It could just be that Trump just loves the guy.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: He just loves the guy. Myna is, the guy loves
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the guy. And a lot of people around Trump love
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Putin and love the guy, admire the guy and all
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of that. So they have it all right.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Today uh uh, Today, the United Kingdom's UK government, the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Labor government, have finally released the long anticipated budget. People
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: have long anticipated this. I mean the UK is in
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: in deep economic problems. It has it really is struggling
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: economically in sos of economic growth. It's got a massive
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: budget deficit.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, what do you call it?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: A debt is going up up up up up up up.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean the UK is is is struggling,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: is really struggling, and.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people, you know, and and one
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: of the things that the Labor Party came in coming
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: now the UK is already in deep trouble before the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Labor Party came in. Labor Party came in and said,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to clean house. We're gonna fix this, We're
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: going to get it all in shape, we're gonna get
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it right. So today's budget was an indication of their
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: first real, big budget and you.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Know, how are they going to do this?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: And of course what Labor's doing is what politicians in
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: the West have been doing now for a long time.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are a few exceptions we can talk about,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like Sweden and Canada of all countries, but basically politicians
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in the West, particularly in America and the UK and
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: now fans basically.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: You know, have the view.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: In Japan, Japan, they cannot cut spending. Spending a second one.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: You can't cut it, you can't touch it, you can't reduce.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: We talked about Doge and how horrific of a failure
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Doge was. They they they made cutting spending a dirty
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: would you know, given how.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Pathetic the efforts were. So you can't get spending and
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: therefore you now in America, you can't get spending and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you have to cut taxes.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: So deficits just just grow and grow and grow. You
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: keep cutting cutting taxes and getting less revenue and spending
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: just goes out of control.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And and that's what we got. And in the UK
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: at least they won't cut spending. That'll increase spinning.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: But they at least are trying to close the deficit.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: They're at least trying by raising taxes. But of course
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: they can't raise taxes on the middle class where most
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: of the income is, where if you want to make
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a dent you have to tax. They they create many, many,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: many different types of little taxes to try to, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: somehow bring in more revenue or try to bring in
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: some revenue. It really is quite astounding. So today they announced,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: for example, do you as a sugar tax. This is
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: they love these taxes, right, they love taxes that have
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a paternalistic aim. Oh, we're just trying to get you
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to drink less sugar. It's good for you to drink
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: less sugar. And by the way, we'll raise some revenue
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: at the same time. Well, they're expanding the sugar tax.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be huge. This is gonna have such
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a huge impact on the deficit, on a paying back
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the debt. They're gonna now add milkshakes, coffee drinks and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: milk some milk substitutes. They're all gonna also have a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: sugar tax. I mean, that's huge, right, That is definitely
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: going to it is definitely going to bring in a
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: lot of revenue. Those milkshakes, God, those milkshakes are really
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: going to do it. Now, that's just one example of
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: them tinkering. But generally they're increased taxes. They're increasing taxes.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: They've also what they've done you see one of the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: ways you increase taxes.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: As you know, we have a progressive tax system, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: so a certain range of income pays a particular percentage
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and as you go up in income, the.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Percentage that you pay increases.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Now a lot of times these ranges attag to inflation.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So as inflation goes up, and as you get a
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: raise based on inflation just to keep you where you
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: were before, well the range goes up with you, so
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you don't pay more taxes. Well, the UK is doing
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: away with that, so the ranges are going to be
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: frozen until twenty thirty one. So if the UK has
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: inflation and now the government has a clear incentive to inflate,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: then your wages will go up to mans inflation and
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you will keep getting bumped up to a new tax
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: backet and pay higher and higher and higher taxes as
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: inflation goes higher and as your wages go up. So
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: that's one way in which everybody, everybody is going to
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: pay more taxes. If you drive an electric vehicle, there's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: going to be a new tax on that, right, there's
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: going to be a tax on.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: A threepenny per mile.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: How they're going to figure out how many miles you drive,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's a three penny for electric
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: car drivers. Plug in hybrids only have one point five penny.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why that is.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: And there's gonna be new road.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Pricing where you're gonna there's going to be they're going
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to charge you by the roads you use, by how
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: much you drive, so you're gonna pay more there. There's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: a significant increase in the minimum wages across I mean,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: the UK has a convoluted multi system of minimum wages,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: all of them are going up. That will increase unemployment
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: among the people who are least able at least able
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to deal with unemployment. It raised costs for businesses, but
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: minimum wages are going up across the board. Homeowners property
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: taxes on the rich the rich. If you have a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: home value to more than two million pounds, property taxes
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: going up, you're gonna be paying more. Energy bills are
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: gonna fall, even though because I mean, UK has I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: think the highest energy costs maybe in the world, they're
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: gonna push them down. I don't know where they're gonna
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: get the funding to do that. How that's gonna work,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: don't know. Train fares are going to be capped. They're
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: frozen until March twenty twenty seven. So much for the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: privatized real system in the UK. Saving accounts, tax fee
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: are going to be restricted, more restricted th they are
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And so on.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: In other words, it's a it's a you know, bigger families,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get more money. This is part of the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: the idea of trying to get people that have more babies.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Uh and uh you know. Yeah, this is like these.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Piecemeal things that that I'm gonna have no economic effect,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: but it makes people feel like maybe the guvernment's doing something,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe there's activity, maybe there's.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Doing something to help me. But no, they're not doing
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: anything to help you at all at all. There's nothing
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: going on here that has anything to do with help
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: UK budget a complete disaster mess spending going up. Taxes
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: are like tinking tinkuing. I mean, this is a labor
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: apartment that was going to come in and change everything.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I think the best way to describe it is it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: just pathetic, just absolutely pathetic.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: All Right. We have talked quite a bit about Taiwan.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: We've talked about Japan, Taiwan, China, the conflict there, What
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: could it couldn't happen about whether the American would come
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: in and help. The Japanese are clearly interested in helping
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and see. An attack on Taiwan is an attack on Japan,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and Japan is definitely sending all the signals to China
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: that it would intervene on Taiwan's side. Whether the United
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: States would rein them in under Trump or not is
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: not clear. Whether the United States would join Japan again
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: not clear. In the meantime, Taiwan intends to pull forty
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: billion dollars into defense to try to deter China. The
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: idea is to make any attack by China on Taiwan
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: just too costly to attempt.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: They're going to be buying, trying to buy, at least.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Hopefully the Americans will sell them faster missiles, many more drones,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: and you know he heavy buys from from the US,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: but also bolstering the local producers of various types of
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: weapons systems. They just want to get to a position,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and this is exactly what Taiwan needs to do, exactly
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: what it must do. They need to get into position
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: where they are just too strong for China to try it. Right,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: China would probably win in the end, if particularly for
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: America didn't show up.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: China would definitely win. Right, if it was willing to
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: take the casualties, willing to suffer the cost, stick with
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it for a long campaign, they would win. They're just
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: too big, right. But if the Taiwanese can build up
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a military that would just make the Chinese bleed, cost
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: them enormously in both money, treasure, but also in lives,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: then war could probably be avoided.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: In that China just would never engage in it. The
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: last thing she wants is what's happening with Russia. He
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: does not, he cannot, he cannot afford the you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to be to send a body bags of hundreds of
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: thousands of Chinese back to China. So yes, Taiwan shid
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: aar itself to the teeth. I mean, I wish somebody
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: would give it a nuke that would solve the problem.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: But sort of a nuke, sell them, sell them any
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: weapon sys they want, the most advanced defensive because that's
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: all Taiwan needs is defensive weapons systems, asymmetric warfare, missiles,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: anti anti defenses.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Anything they need ramp up in Taiwan.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: So it's good to see the Taiwan he's taking their
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: defense seriously and being willing to put some money behind it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: All right, let's shift gears, big gearshifts. All right.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I've talked about this a number of times
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: over the years that in Israel there is a draft,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: this conscription, which I'm against.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Of course I'm a full volunteer on me.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: But if you have conscription, there is absolutely no justification
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: to exclude some people and to give them this massive
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: benefit over others. You know, equal rights demands that you
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: really called you before, the law demands that you chieve
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: people the same. And in Israel has this massive exclusion.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It has a draft for almost everybody except if you're
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: an ultra Orthodox Jew. If you're an ultra Orthodox Jew,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: you don't need to serve in the military. Now, these
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: ready Supreme Court is now ruled that that is unacceptable
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and its demanded. Governments start calling up the Auto Orthodox.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And there's a massive political battle going on right now
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in Israel. You know, Natanio's government depends on the Alto
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Orthodox to exist. It would fall if not for the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Alto Orthodox. The Orthodox are demanding that their people be
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: excluded from military service. Everybody else in Israel. The entire
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Israeli population wants them to be included. Particularly after October seventh.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Secular Israelis feel like the entire burden.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Of protecting Israel has fallen on them and that these
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: religious ultra Orthodox Jews they don't participate, they have nothing.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: The only other portion of these arly populations exempted from
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the draft are Arabs Muslims, but also Christian Arabs.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: From the draft as well. Some volunteer, minority volunteer, but
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: they are exempted. So the question is, you know, why
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: are these ulto Orthodoxy Jews exempt? And again the entire
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: secular population is like, they should fight for their own,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: you know, freedom. We know exactly what Ramas would do
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to them. If Ramas gained the upper hand, it would
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: kill them. And you've got secular Jews basically defend these
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: religious nuts.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Anyway, this.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: This last week, this week a representative of the ultra Orthodox,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: you said Friedman, who's an editor of a of a newspaper,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: an ulto Orthodox newspaper, did an interview and he was asked,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: why don't the aulto Orthodox serve the idea?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And this is his answer.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Those who save the states are those who learn the Torah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: So someone who harms Torah learners harms state security. He says, mathematically,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: what is incorrect about that we are preserving the Jewish people,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: and in this matter are preserving the Jewish people. There
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is no equality of burden, only we contribute. In other words,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: studying the too and praying to God is what actually
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: stopped from us.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Studying the tour and praying to God is what actually
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: saves Israel and the Jews. Studying the top and praying
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: to God is the only thing that matters, the only
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: thing that matters in the preservation of the Jewish people.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: He is arguing.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Now, this is barbaric mystical nuttiness. These people are crazy.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: They live in a fantasy land of mysticism of God's
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: constant presence. He literally says, that fighting in Gaza, in Lebanon,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: in Iran doesn't count. Quote, that's not preserving the Jewish people,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: that's preserving the Israeli people.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So he doesn't count himself as an Israeli. So Fietman
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: thinks iety f is pointless. Well not quite, because he
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: lives in Israel and he knows the security depends on it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He says, if the aeshievas this is the schools where
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: they study, the tour don't study. The tanks won't start,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the planes won't take off. Literally, God will not allow
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the tanks to turn on. God will stop the planes
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: from flying. This is how barbaric and nutty and crazy
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: and evil these people are.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, talk about evasion, he says, Quote, the army
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: has never won because of the number of soldiers.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: At West Point. They study wars from around the whole world,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: but not Israel's wars.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: You know why, because the rules of war don't apply here.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: There's no logic here, because God intervenes.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: God interviews. Now that's bs, of course, they study Israel's wars.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: But what about the fact that Israel is missing about
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: ten to twelve thousand soldiers that it needs right now,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: you know, to defend itself. His solution is, no, well,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: we actually lack as learners. We need to increase study
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: in the Sheva even more, and then fifteen elderly.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Soldiers will win all these wards. You don't need. You
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: don't need thousands, you need fifteen.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: And they can beat all of Ramas and all and
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: all of you on just with fifteen, because God will
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: be on their side.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: And he says, I believe this with complete faith.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: It's it really is unbelievable. I mean, how primitive and
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: barbaric these people really are. They really do believe this,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I think they are. If they don't want to,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, they should or should carve out a country
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: just for them, maybe in the middle of the West
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Bank or maybe and even give them a portion of
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Gaza and they can live in this country and they
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: can just pray and see what happens, and there's ready
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: military should stay out of it, and or they should
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: sleeve leave the state of Israel. I mean, these are
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: people who who are a stain on the nation of Israel.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: They I mean, just to think of the soldiers were
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: fighting now the fight. The soldiers aren't fighting for them,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: but there the massive beneficiaries of those soldiers, the worst,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the free writers. They spit in the shows.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Just face right, and this guy does not care, does
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: not care.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: And I really believe these rarely so just to stop
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: defending them, stop protecting literally, take their neighborhoods and put
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: them right smack in the middle of Gaza and let
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  Speaker 2: them pray.
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  Speaker 1: Let them pray hard, pray all day and all night.
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  Speaker 2: This is the worst kind of primitivism and barbarism and mysticism.
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  Speaker 1: That one can imagine.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And these people are stuck in some ancient primitive I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is not even the Israel of the Bible. The
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Israel of the Bible fights. They don't allow God to
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: save them. They fight, don't always win, they lose often.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Now then they blame it God, God punish system by losing.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: But this isn't the Old Testament. But this is those
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  Speaker 2: guys in black who we're black. This is what they believe,
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  Speaker 2: they claim that you know, this is this is what
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  Speaker 2: you know. This is what they're instructed to do by
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the rabbis and by by the leaders. This is what
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: they're instructed to do by you.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Know, the greatest scholars of Jewish learning today in the world.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: It really is disgusting. It's more to dodger draft if
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: you're doing it for the right cause. This ain't it. This,
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  Speaker 1: This is not mall. This is despicable.
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  Speaker 2: And you can say it has no foundation in Jewish religion.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: But I'm not an authority and Jewish religion who neither
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: is anybody else in this chat. But this is this
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  Speaker 2: is the evil of religion, the evil of mysticism, and
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Jews are just as guilty as anybody.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Else's oh of that kind of evil. So nuts.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: People say, I don't, I don't go you know, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true. This is one of many examples where
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• 51:52
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  Speaker 1: timbers Kid. Let's see Tucker Carlson is Oops, there we go?
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  Speaker 2: Is Tuco only getting nutet of yet? If that's possible, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that you get Natty of the demons.
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  Speaker 2: It makes him as nutty as these alto orthodox Jews.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy. Anyway, I thought i'd show you a couple of
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  Speaker 1: videos from Taco just to give you an update on
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Taka Nuts, Tucker Crazy tucka insanity.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Tucker has been saying lately, He's me saying, lately, enough
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: with the talk about Israel, enough with talk about Jews.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I've had it. I don't care about Israel at all.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I just don't care, and I don't care about the Jews.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: So this is the video he posted after saying he
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about Israel. Animal doesn't want to
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: talk about Jews. Animo doesn't want any of this anymore.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Here's the video.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: There's a message jamet. Christians, who are the largest group
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: of Israel supporters in the United States, and their view
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: of Israel is colored not just by sentimental attachment, which
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: is fine, or trips to Israel great, no problem, but
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: by a Christian heresy, the oldest of the Christian heresies,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: which is that God somehow prefers some people based on
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: their DNA.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: So the whole So, even if you.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Buy into the biblical story of as many Christians I
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: guess do, that God has you know, the Jews of
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the chosen people, that God has chosen them, there's nothing
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: about that about DNA in that it is interesting that
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: this is how Tucker thinks in racist racial terms. What
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: differentiation Jews is not DNA many converts, not many, but
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: the converts to Judaism is possible if you commit to
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the ideas of Judaism. Don't I don't recommend it, but
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to converte, you could convote. As long
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: as you commit to the.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Ideas of Judaism, to the practices of Judaism, to the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: religion of Judaism, there's nothing to do with DNA.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Has everything to do with that commitment to those ideas
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: and those practices, as irrational as they are.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: But to teck up, he can only think in terms
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: of DNA.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: And of course he is not going to miss an
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: opportunity to both attack Israel and attack Jews, and attack
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the Christians who support the Jews, because some Christians believe
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: the Christianity did not come about to replace the Jews,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: as the early Church fathers absolutely did believe, but to.
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  Speaker 1: Be a religion side.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: By side with the Jews, and the Jews would have
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: to make a choice in the end by the way
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: to become to Christian or not. You know, when the
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: day of reckoning comes, but in the meantime they are
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: the chosen people and they should be treated with suspect
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: as the chosen people. Taka is here articulating the old
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: church Father's doctrine, which basically says Christianity is here to
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: replace the Jews, and the Christians are now, in a sense,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the chosen people.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Christianity's universal.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Anybody can be a Christian very easily and very quickly
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: baptism and stuff. It doesn't require a difficult process.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Like the Jews require.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: And so still believe that the Jews are chosen people
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: is a heresy according to Tucker. Tucker is going old
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: school Christian here. Now the Moments think they're the chosen people.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you, the Muslims definitely think they're
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the chosen people. And again it's based on ideology, not
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: based on DNA. But Tucker's obsessed with DNA. We'll see
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: in the next video is obsession a little bit obsession
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: with DNA.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: And of course the whole point of Christianity is that
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: that is no longer true that there is no chosen people.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: The chosen people are people who choose Jesus. That is
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: the Christian message right there. It's not an anti Semitic message,
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: by the way, it just.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Has implications about the Jews, right, because the Jews don't
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: see Jesus, won't come to Jesus, they're no longer chosen.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: And indeed they really, uh.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: You know, they have turned it back to Jesus because
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: they were they saw Jesus. They confronted Jesus, and the
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Jews today a confronted with Christianity, and they choose not
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: to base it. They choose to base a more primitive,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: older religion. And because of that, they are evil and bad.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's Augustine, that's Amvos, that's the fathers of
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: the Church.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: The fathers of the Church will leave. The Jews as
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: a people were evil and bad because they didn't choose Jesus,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: because they didn't recognize Jesus as the Messiah. And as
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: a consequence, they should be.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Penalized, foot they should be treated badly, they should be humiliated,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: they should live very difficult, hard, oppressive, oppressed lives, and
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that will remind Christians of this is what happens when
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you don't come to Jesus. So it's not anti Semitic,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: but it's the foundation of all anti Semitism. All anti
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Semitism is founded in this notion of the Jews not finding,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: not recognizing, not coming to Jesus, and therefore they should suffer.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: It's the Christian message, It's the core Christian message. And
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: yet there are many, many self described representatives of the
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Christian faith, the world's largest, who are daily sending a
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: different message.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Now, notice they have massive disagreements among the Christians. Massive
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I mean the number of denominations of Christianity in the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: United States, unbelievable number, right, And then Catholics, and then
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: different types of Catholics who disagree with one another, even
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: disagree with the pope. But the one he focuses on,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the one he focuses on constantly, is about the Jews.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: It's a little obsession for Tuck, isn't it. You'd think
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: he was, I don't know, anti Semitic or something.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: And we should be very clear. Whatever this is, it's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: not Christianity. It is heresy.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: What's the messaging, all right?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: So the Christians who support Israel or no whiter than that,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: the Christians who believe that the Jews are chosen people
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: until at least the day of Reckoning, are committee heresy.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I wonder what Techan thinks the penalty for heresy should be.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, should he go by the church fathers? Who
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: is he going.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: To modernize as approach? You know? Curious? I have no
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: idea what he thinks the penalty for hevis he should be.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: All right, let's watch another Tucko video. Win of all,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: we'll taka. This one is about Russia. And here's great
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: respect and admiration for Russia. This is only twenty one
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: seconds long.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: This is good. Here's uh, here's tuka on on Russia
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  Speaker 1: and Russia and the lesson from World War Two.
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  Speaker 3: My main instinct is that the lesson of World War
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Two for some people was white Christian countries were a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: threat to the war.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: So the lesson of World War two for I guess
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of people is that white Christian nations are
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: threat to the world. And I'm trying to think of
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: one person who believes that, Like, who are the white
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Christian nations who are a threat to the world.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, the Germans, the Italians? If Italian's council white.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: How is that the lesson of World War two? Somebody
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: explain this to me. The lesson of World War two.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Some people think he says, like Tucker, this is not
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Tucker's lesson. This is some people think this is the lesson.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: White Christian nations are threat to the world. I don't
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: know anybody who thinks that, not a literally nobody.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: So world not more consensus.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, and that's just yeah, that's he says, that's one
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: hundred percent consensus. He just said, that is one hundred
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: percent concessus. Who are the white Christian countries in World
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: War two fighting whom?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I just don't It's it's an interesting interpretation of history,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: not a fact actually at all. That's why they hate Russia.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: That's probably gonna be the only majority of white Christian
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: country in the world.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: So they hate Russia because it's the only majority white
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Christian country in the world. Soon, because of demographics, Russia
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: is going to be the only white Christian country in
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: the world. Now, this is not only the reason. This
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the reason people hate Russia.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe it has to do with the fact that Russia
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: started a war. Maybe it has to do with the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: fact of Russia is an oppressive, oppressive society. Maybe it
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: has to do with the fact that it's run by
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: a murderous dictator. Maybe it has to do with the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Soviet Union and the subjugation of you know, hundreds of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: millions of Europeans. Maybe it has to do with the Ghulas.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: There are lots of reasons they hate Russia. I've never
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: heard of anybody say they hate Russia because they're white
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Christian country.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: But I gear that they you know, let's hear this
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: soon all the way, and they hate it. That is
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: why they hate it. By the way, let's just stop
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: lying about it. That's why they hate it.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Mean, so they hate Russia because it's going to be
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: the only white Christian nation left soon.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Now that is factually just stupid.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Even if you you know, could figure out what white means.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Russia's fifteen percent Muslim. I don't know what percent Asian
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I eat, not white, like most of Russia is in Asia,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: not in Europe. There's a lot of Russian population in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: the Caucuses in you know, off the board of Kazakhstan,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: in Eastern Russia who are not technically whatever the hell
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: that means, white, whatever the hell that means. So it's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: fifteen percent Muslim, and then I don't know what percentage
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: more than fifteen percent would be on my guess, non white.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Now, what is the country that's more white than Russia.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Ukraine.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Ukraine is probably more pure again whatever this means, Poland
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: is probably more Christian and more more white. I mean
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: very few people go to church in Russia. Very few people.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Oh somebody is just Sweden and Norway, but they're not Christian,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: like they don't. Religion is not a big thing in
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Sweden nor in Iceland. They're white, they really are white,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: whiter than me, but they're not.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: They're not Christian.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: But Poland Christian, and Russia is not particularly Christian except
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: for Putin.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's nuts. Disgusting racist, despicable racist. The
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: whole world hates white people. That's what drives Tucker. Saving
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: white people. They need a savior. Him and Donald Trump
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: saving white South Africans. That is the mission.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: It's so freaky and spooky and weird and disgusting and yeah,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: not good, not good stuff.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: All right. I will another call for for for super
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• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: We're still one hundred dollars short of our first hour,
• 1:06:45
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• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: That's what's up there, guys, three hundred and fifty.
• 1:06:55
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• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: buy Christmas presents or something thing.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Trade You gotta trade, remember, all right, hmm, the story escaped.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just give you this tweet. I think it's
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: a it's it's a it's a funny tweet.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Uh. And I think it's it's pretty good.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Uh. And then and then we'll go to the final story,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: which is about about having kids. Part of my effort
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: to have broader stories at the end of the show,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: deeper meaning, relating to meaning, relating to purpose, relating to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: some of the big topics we're going to be talking
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: about in the months years to come. David Deutsch writes
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: on Twitter is really teenagers who are, if anything, more online.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Than Americans are.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Are a devastating counter example to this dismal, mechanistic, anti
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: human view of humans, which is Jonathan Haate's view, which
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: you see it all the time. Though it's destroying people
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: is technology. What's destroying kids is the iPhone. And the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: reality is that Israelis are more connected. But you know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: when the time came to defend themselves to put on
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: a uniform and take a gun and go out there
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: and fight for their freedom. Those hyper connected iPhone obsessed
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Israeli's did it, and they did it courageously and heroically
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: and amazingly. And this view we constantly hear now hop
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: constantly buy Jonathan hat and a bunch of other people.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: And Jonathan Asa has done some good work on a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: bunch of Definiians, when on this one it's just awful.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: It's the iPhone. iPhone is killing our teens, It's destroying
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the human mind. No, you know, this is the evil.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: The evil is technology.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: That's why people are depressed, That's why nothing's getting done.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Well. Israeli's account example. But I agree with David Deutsch.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Here we go. It's a devastating counter example to this.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Like I love this part. This dismal, mechanistic, anti human
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: view of humans. That's perfect, that's perfect. Good for David Deutsch.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: All right, finally I saw this, uh uh a headline.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: This is a paper from the Institute for Family Studies.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Institute for Family Studies, Right, they have looked into polling
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: numbers on people having kids, who's having kids and who's not,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: who's having it's and who is not.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: And it turns out it turns out that the problem
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: of declining birth rates is a problem among liberals.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Among the left, it's people who stuff identifies liberal or
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: left of center who dominate the you know, the the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: the the.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: The issue of childbirth.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Uh, it turns out the marriage is more resilient among conservatives.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Conservatives stick it out, so percent that have ever been
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: married is significantly higher. So conservatives get married at a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: significant higher rate than liberals.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Now it's it's declining.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: You know, it's gone from seventy four percent of conservative
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: men in the nineteen eighties to fifty seven percent of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: conservative men in the twenty twenties. But on the left,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: on liberals, how they define it, it's gone from sixty
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: one percent to thirty five percent. So conservative men, liberal
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: men are not getting married. Liberal women, it was eighty
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: three percent among conservatives getting married have ever been married.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I've gone down to sixty percent among conservative women. So
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: still a majority of conservative women are going to be married.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: But among the liberals, it's gone from seventy five to
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: forty four percent. Forty four percent of young women have
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: never been married. This is, by the way, all of
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: these stats are for twenty five to thirty five year olds,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: and the question is have you ever been married? Based
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: on ideology, and a majority of conservatives have been married
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: by the age of thirty five, and a majority of
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: liber have not been married by the age of thirty five.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: And then if you look at having kids again, same
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: age group, twenty five to thirty five, are you having
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: you know, have you had a kid? A percent that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: have had a child among conservatives that has declined from
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: fifty nine percent of forty seven percent, but forty seven
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: percent of conservative men between ages twenty five to thirty
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: five have had a kid. Women, it's sixty five and
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: it's gone up. More conservative women are having kids now
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: than in the past between twenty five and thirty five
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: percent has gone up to seventy one percent. Obviously, marrying
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: older men, significantly older men and having kids with them
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: because the men are not having kids but the women
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: are doesn't really work that way. Among liberals, it's gone
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: from forty seven percent in the eighties to twenty two
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: percent today among men, and from sixty percent in the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: eighties to forty percent.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Today.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: In other words, the entire crisis of childbirth is a
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: phenomena of the left. And part of the challenge with
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: that is the number of women who are on the
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: left is increasing. So it used to be thirty one
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: percent of women were liberal, now it's thirty six percent.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Among among men, it's pretty much flat, thirty thirty two percent.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's true, but that was confusing.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, if you look at birth rates,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: the ten states with the largest Trump margins, the Trump one,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: their birth rate has declined by about ten eleven percent
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: actually from two thousand and one.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: They're shifting parameters. But in blue states states that.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Harris one of the biggest margins, their birth rates have
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: declined by twenty five percent. Blue states are seeing a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: falling child population. Red states are seeing and increasing. Again,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: we're talking about just the most extreme right. So the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: the what was it the ten states with the largest
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Trump or Harris majorities?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: So why is this what causes this?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Well, the reality is that, you know, conservatives, religionists generally
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: view having children as a duty. They view having children
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: as something that is part of a tradition, that's part
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: of a religious duty, it's an essential part of life,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, is a must. The left, on the
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: other hand, people of left orientation, if you will, view
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: having children as an option, an option to be weighed
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: against everything else that life has to offer. So, for example,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: among you know, among self identified liberals, women for example,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: are much more concerned about career. And among turning point USA,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: young adults are going to say, you know, having children
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: is more important than having a good career. That's the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: thing that matters the most. So, you know, this is
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: an issue of values. It's an issue of values, and.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: We're going through a period over the.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Last twenty really forty years, probably where the opportunities that
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: women have in the workforce, in education, in life are
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: dramatically greater than they've ever had in all of human history.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Men have always had opportunities, and those opportunities have increased
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: with wealth and increased with the quality of life stand
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: and living in America. But women have gone from a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: position of having very few opportunities to having almost, if
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: not exactly, the same opportunities men have.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: That's a shock to the system.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: It's a shock to the society, the culture, the people
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: in the culture, and it's a shock to women and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: a shock to men. Men don't know how to deal
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: with women who now have careers and have self esteem
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: and have you know, have a life that they want
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: to live and can live without being in the kitchen
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: and taking care of their husband. And that's a shock
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: to men. They don't know how to deal with that.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: And then but it's also shocked to women. Women need
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: to figure out what is their value hierarchy, where the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: kids fit, how to deal with this changing value hicky
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: because now values that they didn't they couldn't achieve in
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: the past suddenly can be achieved, like career, like wealth,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: and it's you know, And then they have to figure
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: out how do you balance remember this life work balance
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: and and how do you you know? The women have
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: this idea, this thing that is imposed on them.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Can you have it all?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Can you have a career and children? Like men never
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: had to deal with that. Nobody ever asked the question
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: to man, can you have a career and children? Nobody
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: has that question? So women and I put in this box,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: you have to choose one or the other. And right now,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: particularly among young women, it's like, WHOA, all these opportunities exist.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go for the opportunities and we'll see
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: about children later. And maybe I won't have children and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: suddenly I want to have children later because I want
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: to I want to live, try out all these new
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: things that are now available to me that would available
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: in the past. And that's super exciting for them, threatening
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: for you in cells and what is it men going
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: their own way.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, it must be really challenging for
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: all of you.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: But it's challenging for the women too because I think
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: many of them, many of them want to have kids,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: and ultimately in life will want to have kids. And
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I think it's rational for them to want to have kids.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Not for everybody, but I think more will want to
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: have kids. But they have a biological clock. They can
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: only have kids up to a certain age, and they
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: have other priorities for the first time in human history.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: And this is true in America, it's true in South Korea,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: it's true in Japan, it's true every way. Women suddenly
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: have opportunities, and the top of their list is not
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: having kids, and indeed the top of the list is
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: not getting married because suddenly they have these other opportunities. Now,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: I think a healthy, a healthy, successful life can involve
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: having kids, but can also involve not having kids. There
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: is no one way.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Kids are not a universal value.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: They're not a value to everybody, And as a consequence,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: some people will always choose not to have kids if
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: they are granted that option. The sexual revolution plus the
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: increase in options for women have given people the option,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: which is great. But I think over time most women
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: will want to have kids, even once they figure out
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: how to handle it all. And there's no reason they
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: can't have it all. There's no reason men can't help
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: more with child raise, and there's no reason as we
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: get richer that people can't have take kid takers and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: schools and all the other things that will make it
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: possible for two people to work and to have kids
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: and to have it all and have them all as values.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: But this is something people are going to have to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: work out and to expect then not to be a
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: kind of cultural shift as a consequence of the of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: the expanding role of women is to is to you know,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: think that it's uh, I don't know that. Of course,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: you're going to have a change in attitude to his
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: childbirth and towards marriage.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: As you increase the opportunities for women.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Now, I know any conservatives, many of you listening maybe
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: would like to see those opportunities shrunk. I mean, Matt
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Walsh would like to see women go back to the kitchen,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: to the home, full time job in the home and
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen and rearing children.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: And indeed, what's the term tran trand wives? Traditional wives, tradwives, tradwives,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: tradwives are really in in the Nick Fouantis crowd.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Orthough.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Nick Frantis claims to be a virgin and can't even
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: imagine having sex with a woman because a woman, I mean,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: that's a lowly a lowly being, that's a that's way
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: beneath him. Why would he have sex with a woman
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: that's way beneath anything he would do. He claims he's
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: a virgin because he's a Catholic, But I mean, good
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: for the world that he's a virgin. I think that's
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: that's definitely definitely a positive.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: But you know, having children can be and for many
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: people is a huge part of life.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: For some people, it becomes raising those children becomes the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: really in a sense, productive career, and that's a legitimate,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: productive career. For others, they manage to have children and
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: have another career, and that's legitimate. Other people don't have
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: children and in some families the men do much more
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: of the childhooing than they have historically, and that works.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, the beauty of having opportunities and the beauty
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: of recognizing that the essential characteristic of human beings is
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: as rational animals thinking beings is that that opens up
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: a whole variety of options and opportunities. There's no one
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: traditional way of living. Somebody asks, can one be happy
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: if one does.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Not have kids?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, Some of the happiest people I know do
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: not have kids. I mean, there are days in which
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: if you ask parents whether you can be happy having
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: kids is put into question. But happiness does not depend
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: on any particular act in life. It depends on, you know,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: sustaining a character.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: A character.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: It depends on having moral values and living up to them.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Does not depend on pursuing any i particular values in
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: life beyond those universal abstract values. And having children is
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: not a universal value. So you know, gay people can
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: be happy and not have children. Heterosexual people can be
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: happy and not have children. People can be happy and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: not get married. Although marriage is a huge value, not
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: for everybody and not on all circumstances.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: And one of the things that.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I learned from objectivism, I think correctly, But you know,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: you guys, judge, it's just because something has been practiced
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: forever doesn't mean it's right.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: You've got a question, you've got a challenge.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: And the reality is again, the role of women has
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: really really changed, and as a consequence, a lot of
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: how families compose, how families function, the decisions families take,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: the role of marriage and human life, all of that
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: needs to be questioned and reoriented towards the world.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Of rational beings with immense opportunities before them.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to read this, John says, from biological and
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: evolutionary perspective, not wanting to have kids seems wacky. Having
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: kids is the only thing all our ancestors have in common.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Not true.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Many of by ancestors didn't have kids. The line has disappeared.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: They didn't have kids. A lot of people in history
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: didn't have.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Children, and some people had lots and lots and lots
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: of children, like something like twenty percent of the world
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: population has the genes of Genghis Khan in them. Is
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: one better than the.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Other somehow, And the fact is this is the difference.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: We are being of free will, We are being of reason.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: We are not a being whose actions are dictated by
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: biology and evolution.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: We can overcome biology and evolution. We dictate the terms.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: We decide what to do, how to act. We decide
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: whether they have children or not to have children. We
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: decide who to love and who not to love, who
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: to have sex with, who not to have sex with,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: and under what terms and what conditions. We are reasoning being,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: not a being driven by some biological imperative or category
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Gill imperative. If you're content, we choose our values.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: We must do it rationally in a way connected to reality,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: to facts, and then we need to live the best
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: life based on that.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: And that does not mean living a traditional life.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: That does not mean living a life guy, you know,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: dictated by biology and evolution.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: You get to choose, you get to determine. And right
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: now I think the culture is going through shock therapy
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: because of the massive change in the role of women.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: And we will figure it out.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: People will figure it out, particularly if we elevate reason
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: and rationality. And I feel sorry for all those trad wives.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I feel sorry for everybody stuck in relationships because it's tradition.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Stuck in relationships because that's how it's always been done.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Instead of being in a relationship because you love it,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: because you want it, because you value it, because you
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: have decided to be in that relationship.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: Choice, individual choice, guided by reason. That's why we should elevate,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: not And I don't understand quite the concern about you know,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: one day in the future, if we go at this pace,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: there will be no human beings.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: So why do I worry about the distant future? I don't.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: I worry about today, in the next fifty years maybe,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: but the distant future, I don't really care. Have kids
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: if you want to have kids, don't have kids. If
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: you don't have kids, I mean, consider rationally all the
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: options and take into account the enormous values that kids represent.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: Why do you care if humanity ceases to exist? I mean, humanity,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: if it ceases to exist, ceases to exist in a
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: very distant future, we'll probably knuke ourselves well before that.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Why is it your problem? You have one life, one
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: frigging life. That's it. It's short, you know, maybe if
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: you're young, one hundred years, maybe one hundred and twenty years,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: that's it. You gotta make the most of that life.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: You're gonna live that life.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: You're gonna sacrifice that life for the sake of future
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: generations down the road. Maybe one day, I mean, one day,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: they'll have designer babies in artificial wombs. There won't be
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: a shortage of human beings. We'll just make them un demand.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: I know that scared some of you. But this idea
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: that you should be a slave to future generations and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: therefore you should live for future generations and it's your
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: moral responsibility future generations, that is ridiculous, mystical, absurd, and irrational.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: You should have kids.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Because you love kids, because you love the challenge of
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: raising them, because you love the beauty of watching them
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: grow up, because.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: You you.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Love seeing babies and small children learn about the way
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: the ways of the world. That's why I should have kids.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Because it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be really really,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: really really hard, and it's gonna be the biggest challenge
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: you take on maybe in your life. But it's gonna
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: be fun. So Yeah, don't have kids because of future generations.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Don't have kids because it's a biological impair. If don't
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: have kids because you care about mankind future, have kids
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: because you value kids, because you know you're gonna really
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: benefit from it. You might make a mistake. It turns
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: out many parents do not benefit from it. But yeah,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: have kids because they make they'll make you happy, but
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: they might not make you happy.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: If they're not going to make you happy. If you
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: don't think kids are gonna make you happy, then don't
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: have them. Your happiness as a standard, not a biological imperative.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: Your happiness. All right, That is the news for November
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: twenty sixth Wednesday, November twenty six And it went way
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: longer than I expected, way longer than I've got a
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: hot stop. So we're gonna jump into the questions. We're
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: gonna go through these. Hopefully we'll get through all of
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: them before my heart stop. Please feel fee to ask
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: more questions, particularly if they're twenty or fifty dollars. Oh wes,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: thank you for the fifty dollars stick. There were a
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of stickers. Let me thank the various stick of people,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: and then we'll jump into question.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul, thank you, Delmia, thank you, gig Ef,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: thank you Sit and I think one of you it
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: was your first ever super chat.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: That is yeahl Dalmio Gucia thank you first ever super
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: chat and twenty dollars at that, So thank you.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that a lot. And let's see who else
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: we have here, all right, yeah, z Race, Nutu, timber Park,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: thank you guys.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: For the super chats. All right, let's jump in with
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: some questions. We'll start with fifty dollars questions it. We'll
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: start with an again, thank you Wes for the fifty
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: dollars sticker. We'll start with David, do you consider yourself
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: an extreme radical thinker? If what you say resonates with me,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: does that make me a radical? I definitely think of
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: myself as a radical thinker.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: Extreme. It's not clear what extreme means, what exactly extreme means.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: But I definitely think I'm a radical thinker, and I
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: think to the extent that you agree with me, you
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: are also radical. Radical is you know, having a consistent
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  Speaker 2: set of ideas that is significantly different than the mainstream
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  Speaker 2: then what is acceptable out there? And in that sense,
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  Speaker 2: we have an incredible consistent set of ideas that is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, way out of the gnome. I'm a radical
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  Speaker 2: for capitalism. I'm a radical for reason. I'm a radical
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  Speaker 2: for egoism. I'm a radical for existence, exists, for reality.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, you know, I I think if you agree
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  Speaker 2: with me, you two are radical. Sorry, I know some
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  Speaker 2: of you don't want to be radical. Nick, thank you
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  Speaker 2: for the sticker thought criminal. Thank you for the sticker
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  Speaker 2: whips David again. I took advice and listened to Tyler
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  Speaker 2: Cowens podcast this morning. He had on Cast Weinstein, a
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  Speaker 2: count Rolls and Dewey loving liberal who spent thirty minutes
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  Speaker 2: refuting Hayak, miss Rand and others for being too les fa.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I hate cast White Sunstein. He's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you asked me about reading their books, not
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  Speaker 2: about listening to their podcasts. I don't know about Tyler's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: but he has interesting guests. But yeah, Cas Weinstein is
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: a count Rolls and Dewey loving liberal. That's right, kind
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  Speaker 2: of a left wing libertarian. I think he calls himself
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  Speaker 2: he was he wrote, I think it's the same, Cas Sunsteen.
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  Speaker 2: He wrote nudge, which is a way to nudge us
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  Speaker 2: into good behavior, libertarian paternalism, he called it. But Tyler
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  Speaker 2: typically asks good questions and Tyler is very thoughtful.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree with Tyler, and Tyler doesn't like I randed
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  Speaker 1: there are lots of things I don't like about Tyler,
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  Speaker 1: but Tyler's good as an economist, He's certainly good.
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  Speaker 2: David again, thank you, Thank you, David. Do you know
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  Speaker 2: about statistician Hans Rosling studies showing declining fertility collreorating with
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  Speaker 2: better educated women.
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  Speaker 1: Pinka Ziehan Goldwell.
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  Speaker 2: Basically played Joyce's work in their books. Yes, Hans Rosling
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately passed away a few years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I think was great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he has these fantastic videos where he shows
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  Speaker 2: all these graphs and he shows all this stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he was a phenomenal person, phenomenal statistician, and really his
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  Speaker 2: focus was on showing, h yeah, that we live in
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  Speaker 2: the best of times. You should stop being such downers.
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  Speaker 2: And absolutely fertility is correlated with educated education because as
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  Speaker 2: women get more educated and better educated, they have more
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  Speaker 2: options and they want to do more things with their time,
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  Speaker 2: and that is a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: That is a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so I agree, and I agree that Pink
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  Speaker 2: and all these other guys, I wouldn't say plagiarize because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of them, I know Pinka gives him credit,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure some of the others do. But yes,
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  Speaker 2: His work is brilliant and excellent. His videos are fun
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  Speaker 2: and entertaining to watch. Um Andrew poignantly sad when Zelensky
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  Speaker 2: said that Ukraine must decide between its dignity and losing
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  Speaker 2: a great ally in the United States. I'm glad rand
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  Speaker 2: wasn't alive to see the United States put Ukraine in
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  Speaker 2: that position, and against Russia of all countries. Yeah, she
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  Speaker 2: would be horrified, horrified by Trump generally, but particularly by
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  Speaker 2: Trump's behavior towards Ukraine and Russia. Put aside the question
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  Speaker 2: whether to fund Ukraine to morally support it, There's just no.
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  Speaker 1: Question, no question at all.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it just horowble Andrew again a psychological observation.
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  Speaker 2: I find it physically hard to focus on Takam.
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  Speaker 1: Not sure that's rational.
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  Speaker 2: Focusing on evil can be right, and if my objectivest
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  Speaker 2: principles are firm, then facing opposite evil principles won't hurt
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  Speaker 2: too much. Yeah, but he is a kind of a slimy, dishonest,
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  Speaker 2: weasily kind of human being, and that suddenly can you know,
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  Speaker 2: can be difficult to watch. It's not that it's going
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  Speaker 2: to hurt you, it's just that it feels like a
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  Speaker 2: waste of time. It feels like you should be doing
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  Speaker 2: something better with your life. And it feels like a
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  Speaker 2: bolt of lightning should strike him down and knock him
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  Speaker 2: out right, that they should silence him. And I'm not
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: calling for violence, but it seems like person up there
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  Speaker 2: God should take care of him.
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  Speaker 1: If there was one. There wasn't one. So we just
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  Speaker 1: have to fight against him and the only way we can,
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  Speaker 1: which is intellectually.
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  Speaker 2: It's offensive that he's so successful, given how hobable he is.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's part of the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Christos, did you see Jode Stephanopoulos kick JD Vance
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  Speaker 2: out of the show for lying and evading on Tom
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  Speaker 2: Holman's bride. Unprecedented government corruption In plain sight, current US
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  Speaker 2: government is a Banana Republic. Kudos to George. Yeah, kudos
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  Speaker 2: to George. I wish it was better on other issues,
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  Speaker 2: but good on that. And yes, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: my father most corrupt government in American history, I think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as we've said, the Trump kids, the Wickcuff kids,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: the you know, I don't know if Jady Vance's kids,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: but Holman, I mean, all all benefiting financially at unbelievable rates,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: and maybe j Evans too, we don't know from the
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: things that Trump is doing, from the things this administration
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: is doing.
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  Speaker 1: The I mean you thought Biden Biden's were amateurs. In comparison,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Biden's will corrupt. These guys are ten times more corrupt.
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  Speaker 1: This one is from yesterday, saq you fan. Is there
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  Speaker 1: any value in the Bible? Do the stories of any meaning?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it all nonsense? I mean no, I mean
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  Speaker 1: there's in almost value in the Bible for anthropological reasons.
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  Speaker 2: The stories all have meaning. Most of the meanings are hubbable.
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  Speaker 2: Evil are bad. So the Bible has historic anthropological intellectual
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  Speaker 2: you know, value as a guiding light in one's life.
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  Speaker 2: It is a disvalue. It actually does harm. It's not
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  Speaker 2: that it's nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: It's that it's advocating for evil, bad philosophy, and that
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  Speaker 1: it's stories are leading you towards bad.
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  Speaker 2: Actions from an objective's perspective, actions that destroy yourself.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, religion is no good. Religion is no good, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's founding texts. Texts are not good for human
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: beings with an independent mind. They're good for dogma. And
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: that's pretty much it. All Right, guys, we've made nice progress,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: but we're still eighty six dollars short of our second
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: hour goal. So yeah, if you guys, it would be
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  Speaker 2: great if we met the goal. We don't have a
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: lot of time, though, so we're pretty much would have
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  Speaker 2: to happen quickly. This belongs to my Western question because
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: for some reason I cannot send twenty dollars super chats anymore.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: Why were the spaghetti western so successful? Why did people
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: turn away from the classic Western story of good versus evil?
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: Why did people perform morally gray characters? Because that's the philosophy.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: There was being that had been inculcated into the culture.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: So spaghetti western come out in the sixties a period
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: of moral grayness, a period that that was preceded by
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: decades of people undermining any kind of morality of good
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: and evil, any kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Morality of standing up for justice and the good.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, ridiculing that and making fun of that became one
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: of the main things that cinema did in the following
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: twenty years. Blazing Saddles is a good example a movie
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: that is really funny, but I don't like because what's
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: it making fun of. It's making fun of the things
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: that made the Western's great. It making fun of heroism,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: of moral certainty, of good versus evil. But that is
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: the philosophy of the culture, and you get the art
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: is a reflection of the philosophy of the culture. And
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: this is the sixties.
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  Speaker 1: This is the rise of the you left, the subjectivism,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: the relativism of the new Left, and the morality a morality,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: the lack of morality of the leftist agenda. Lincoln, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for the.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for the sticker, Andrew, with respect to Aristotle.
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  Speaker 2: With respect for Aristotle, I feel I could prove that
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  Speaker 2: a proper definition of man is the rational emotional animal,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: adding emotional as an essential ran every thought, a feeling,
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  Speaker 2: every feeling of thought. What do you think, No, Because
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  Speaker 2: I mean man is the rational animal, because rationality is
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  Speaker 2: man's means of survival.
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  Speaker 1: Emotions are are means of survival.
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  Speaker 2: Emotions are you know, waste experienced life, but not a
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: means of survival.
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  Speaker 1: And then they not essentially what makes man man?
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  Speaker 2: And indeed, emotions the consequences and conclusions which are generated
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  Speaker 2: by the by cognition.
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  Speaker 1: By the more rational part of the animal.
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  Speaker 2: So no, I think emotions are not a defining characteristic
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  Speaker 2: of human beings. They're also not it's not clear that
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  Speaker 2: animals don't have some form of emotion, certainly fear they have.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Human beings are unique in that they are, that they
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: have reason, that they are rational, that they can think,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: they can challenge, you know, they can.
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  Speaker 1: In a sense consider their emotions.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: They have enough self awareness to consider their emotions, all
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: characteristics of reason. Andrew a tweet from a parody account
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  Speaker 2: called god. If you pray odd enough, nothing happens, and
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: if you pay soft enough, nothing happens. Just nothing happens.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. Lincoln News out of d C.
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  Speaker 2: Two National Guard members were shot dead outside the White House. Currently,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: flights the Reagan Airport are grounded as it could be
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: a possible terrorist attack, assassination attempt. Interesting, it'll be interesting
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: to see what ultimately comes of this.
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  Speaker 1: Who who is responsible? You know what? You know, what
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: is the purpose?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I'm just checking the news feed to
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: see if there's anything there. Two West Virginia National Guard
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: men killed in DC shooting near the White House. Shooting
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: happened on seventeenth in Ice Street. The West Virginia governor
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: confirmed the Godsman deaths. DC police took on one aspected
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: in the custody at the scene. The individual was wounded,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: but not critically and received hospital or care. The area
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: saw a brief lockdown, street closures, and swift federal response,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: with details on motive under investigation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how to tell who did this and what the
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: what they were trying to achieve?
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  Speaker 2: All right, probably talk about it tomorrow on the news
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  Speaker 2: if it turns into something. Lincoln, I despise how many
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: of you having kids as a sacrifice. What is more
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: self interested to your long term happiness than having and
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: raising the next generation of think as an entrepreneurs. Well,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It depends. For some people it is
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: a sacrifice and they shouldn't have kids. So I don't
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: know how you can say what is more self interested
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: to your long term happiness? I didn't have kids, said
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: to her long term happiness was much more important to
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: finish outlash Shrugged than to have kids and to write
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: the Fountain it than to have kids.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's a mistake. And why is it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to really think, and you have
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: to be able to articulate why is it so essential
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: to your long term happiness to raise the next generation,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: not just any next generation of thinkers and entrepreneurs, and
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: what if your kids don't become entrepreneurs or thinkers, why
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: is it in your long term self interest? You have
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: to be able to have an answer for that, Lincoln.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: My stepmom was able to work her way up to
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  Speaker 2: CEO of a hospital at the university I attended and
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: raised me as if I were her birth son. A
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: CEO and no biological kids makes her enemy, makes an
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: enemy of the right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: But think about the fact that I ran didn't have kids,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't have kids, and can
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  Speaker 2: they not be happy? Of course they can, Lincoln says,
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  Speaker 2: spelling clarity. It's the rights and raised me. Yes, they
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  Speaker 2: think I figured that out, Thanks Lincoln. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 2: all right, that went quickly, quicker than I thought. All right, hope,
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  Speaker 2: thanks to all the super chatters and the stickers. Really
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: really really really really appreciate the support, particularly David who
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: came in with three fifty dollars questions.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for that.
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  Speaker 2: I will see you guys tomorrow for a special Thanksgiving show.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: We will talk about Thanksgiving Giving, thanks the importance of that, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it have a great If I don't see you tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: have a fantastic Thanksgiving, And don't forget to give thanks
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  Speaker 1: to what's what's important to you, to your values, to
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: the people and and uh to the people important to you,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: And don't forget to don't forget yourself, don't forget forget
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: to give thanks to you, to the choices you make,
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  Speaker 1: to the values you pursue, to who you have made
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  Speaker 1: you into. See you tomorrow or sometime in the future,
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  Speaker 1: by everybody.