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- 0:00Boy, oh boy, oh boy. Hasn't been a while.
- 0:03Hasn't been an adventure. It truly has.
- 0:09I'm excited to be back. I'm excited to be back.
- 0:13Sharing thoughts, perspectives, content.
- 0:15And I'm grateful. I'm in a beautiful new home.
- 0:20I am feeling again, super blessed, energized, optimistic.
- 0:29Thoughtful, empathetic as well because I know so many others in
- 0:34this world don't have the luxuries and or the blessings
- 0:38that I have. And so I'm appreciative and I'm
- 0:41feeling, I'm feeling focused. So I think today what I want to
- 0:45do is I just want to give kind of a macro point of view on all
- 0:49things that I care about, things that I'm seeing in the market,
- 0:52things that I'm seeing in the world of work that I think is
- 0:54important and there are great interviews to come.
- 0:59There are phenomenal conversations that I know are
- 1:03coming up that I'm excited about, conversations that I know
- 1:06will spark the mind, motivate you, support you along your
- 1:11learning journey. And I also want to share
- 1:15something else. You know, we're we're
- 1:18approaching 800 episodes very, very quickly here.
- 1:22And I've been thinking about what's next, you know, should I?
- 1:28Should I cap it at 800? Should I cap it at 9:00?
- 1:32Should I cap it at 1000? Should I cap it at 5000?
- 1:36Who knows, right? But but I am thinking about
- 1:38that. I'm thinking about what does the
- 1:42end of the E1B2 collective podcast look like?
- 1:46What does the next situation or evolution look like?
- 1:54What does the? What does the next frontier look
- 2:00like for me? And that's something I'm
- 2:02pondering and I'm thinking about a lot, but we're not there yet.
- 2:06You know, we still have a lot more time left.
- 2:08And and I'm excited to be able to bring you phenomenal
- 2:11conversations and quick, witty, thoughtful perspectives on all
- 2:16things work, all things employ experience, all things DE and I.
- 2:20You know the gist of it, right? And so for me, let me, let me
- 2:23just rattle off a few thoughts and I think are important.
- 2:26I think first and foremost companies are I believe starting
- 2:30to realize that they've always realized this.
- 2:34But I think it's starting to become more of a focus right now
- 2:36that being able to truly understand what all is out there
- 2:44that you can do, that you should do from an HR perspective and
- 2:48benchmarking themselves. And having that data to see
- 2:52where they are, where their gaps are and being able to, you know,
- 2:56analysis. What am I trying to say?
- 2:58I'm analyzed. I was going to say analysize.
- 3:00It's not a word. Analyze that data.
- 3:02I'm starting to see leaders starting to take that a bit more
- 3:05seriously. And what I mean by that is so
- 3:08many of the biggest companies in the world, in my personal
- 3:11opinion, through my career, they've stayed insular.
- 3:14They've stayed siloed. And what I mean by that is some
- 3:17of the the biggest and the best HR leaders in the world have
- 3:21their small little pockets of circles externally from the
- 3:23company that they lean on for advising, for perspective, for
- 3:27new ideas, best practices, thoughts.
- 3:30They lean on their internal team for advising perspectives and
- 3:34thoughts. And frankly what they lean on
- 3:37the most is their overall historical history of being an
- 3:41HR practitioner in the work that they've done.
- 3:44But very seldom prior to, in my personal opinion, the last six
- 3:47months or so, maybe the last 18 months or so, do I believe
- 3:52consistently HR leaders were looking outside of themselves
- 3:56and asking the big bold question of what are we not doing that we
- 4:00could be doing that we should be doing?
- 4:03What are we doing and how is that stacking up against the
- 4:07other companies that we are trying to be?
- 4:10Bigger then stronger then faster then more productive then more
- 4:13profitable then higher then and and how do all of our team
- 4:20members fit into that big overall plan, right?
- 4:26Like what team members on our HR team are we missing?
- 4:29What new ideas should we be thinking more about?
- 4:33Who should be carrying the baton of those ideas And and now I'll
- 4:37even take it a step further, right?
- 4:40I think investing in companies that can spend time that have
- 4:44already spent time getting every single best practice, every
- 4:48single framework, every single bullet point, if you will, of
- 4:51all things HR. And being able to help them,
- 4:56help, help, help, have them help you understand where you are,
- 5:00understand where you're not understand what you could be
- 5:03doing, and just having the full comprehensive plan.
- 5:09Understanding I think it's incredibly, incredibly important
- 5:12and there are many companies out there that you can go to that
- 5:15can that can help you create those assessments, conduct that
- 5:19effort, understand that work, understand that that focus and
- 5:23and I'm excited about that. The the second thing I'm excited
- 5:27about is I'm excited about companies that are going to be
- 5:29leaning a little bit more into recommendation tools.
- 5:35Here's why I'm excited about that.
- 5:37I'm excited because generative AIDE and I employee experience
- 5:43the world of work, talent acquisition, they're all coming
- 5:46together. Things are all smashing together
- 5:48in a way that I think is beautiful, that I think is
- 5:50innovative, that I think it's brilliant.
- 5:53And I believe companies that can literally from a chat, GB T
- 5:58perspective as well type in a scenario or a problem.
- 6:02Giving you an example now maybe let's say they type in.
- 6:06We are having struggles as it pertains to retaining employees
- 6:12that are between the ages of 25 and 32 and we believe that's an
- 6:18issue because of our onboarding lack there of processes and
- 6:23strategies. What suggestions do you have
- 6:26they type that in and I love the fact that there are technologies
- 6:30and tools out here that can literally give you.
- 6:34Two to five different recommendations that are deep,
- 6:37that are nuanced, that are thoughtful, that are true, that
- 6:40are honest, that are backed by science and data and and
- 6:42research and and and wins and that can really break down
- 6:50tactically what you should do. Also break down strategically
- 6:55how you should think about it from a framework perspective and
- 6:58can really help you put things in place.
- 7:01I love that. I love that.
- 7:03And I think it's important for leaders to remove ego.
- 7:09And when I say remove ego, what I really mean by that is there
- 7:12are so many leaders that say, well, I don't need a
- 7:13recommendation tool. I know what to do if we're
- 7:16having onboarding issues. I know what to do if we're
- 7:19having retention issues in in this demographic, in this age
- 7:22group. I know what to do if we're
- 7:23having this problem. I know what to do if we're
- 7:25having that problem. But what I think is potentially
- 7:29even more important than saying that and and and leaning into
- 7:32that ego. Is respecting that technology
- 7:36can scan all the best practices, all the data, all the research,
- 7:40all the analysis, all the frameworks that are within the
- 7:44Internet of the Worlds, as well as just overall and give you
- 7:48something from a recommendation. Give you a launching pad if you
- 7:53will, quick, fast, easy and something that I think a lot of
- 7:58people can gain a lot of speed and traction around.
- 8:03So if a leader's listening, remove your ego for a second.
- 8:08Ask Jack GB T generative a I diversial all these tools out
- 8:13here. Ask these tools really
- 8:16simplistic but also incredibly important questions and lean
- 8:21into the recommendations. See what those recommendations
- 8:24get you. So that's another thing that's
- 8:26been top of mind as I've taken this 22 week hiatus here.
- 8:32Another thing that's been top of mind and has always been top of
- 8:35mind, frankly, has been has been understanding how organizations
- 8:42can be more thoughtful around recruiting and analyzing
- 8:46behaviors and capabilities. That's a big one, and really
- 8:51it's a big one for me around timing.
- 8:55I've always said in another life, and I almost pulled the
- 8:57trigger about six years ago, but I've always said in another
- 9:00life. I should have been a
- 9:01relationship coach or a or some sort of a, you know,
- 9:09psychologist, if you will. And I've always wanted to do
- 9:12that because I felt that I just innately understood human beings
- 9:15and respected contextual timing. And so I'll give you a scenario.
- 9:22Let's say a company is going from 200 to 600 employees within
- 9:25a six month window of time. That's growth, huh?
- 9:28Let's say they're doing that because they have a lot of
- 9:30investment. And let's say they got that
- 9:32investment because the CEO of the company, the executives of
- 9:36the company have promised new technology, new partnerships,
- 9:41new acquisitions that were going to inevitably scale the
- 9:44inevitable sales of the company. They were going to be able to
- 9:47take more market share and they had to do so in a very
- 9:51aggressive and thoughtful manner.
- 9:53You can imagine the timing, the energy, the culture of the
- 9:57company might be a little bit. A little bit.
- 10:01And when I when I make that sound, that's my, that's my
- 10:06interpretation, that's my, that's my sound of anxiety.
- 10:11But I know you're like, what the hell is that?
- 10:13But that's my version of laugh because my wife is like, what
- 10:18are you doing? That sound that I made is what I
- 10:21what I think happens in the mind when there's anxiety, and I
- 10:24believe there's a lot of anxiety when you're going to those
- 10:26different situations. I believe there's a ton of
- 10:29anxiety when you're going through the pressures of trying
- 10:33to give your stakeholders, give your investors really confident
- 10:39answers. I think there's a lot of anxiety
- 10:41as it pertains to trying to figure out.
- 10:46Who you need in your company, based off of the timing of where
- 10:49the company is. Who has enough curiosity?
- 10:54Who has enough innovative ideas? Who has enough?
- 11:00Who has enough patience? Who has enough of a thick skin,
- 11:05if you will, Who has enough inclusivity baked into the
- 11:10fabrics and the bones of their being.
- 11:13Where they can be patient, but also thoughtful, but also
- 11:16curious, but also inclusive to build really seamless and
- 11:19thoughtful relationships so you can move fast.
- 11:21Who has all of those variables because that's what the company
- 11:24in the, in the organization needs right now.
- 11:27I think we're far beyond organizations looking at a
- 11:30resume, looking at a, looking at their background i.e. whatever
- 11:35university they attended. And looking at their black and
- 11:38white skill sets and say, oh, well, since this person can code
- 11:42this, or oh, since this person has sold that, or oh, since this
- 11:45person has ran this type of manufacturing, or oh, since this
- 11:48person has ran this type of department, or oh, because this
- 11:52person has done this particular skill, that's objectively a sign
- 11:57that they'll be good for us. And that's not always true.
- 12:00And I think so many organizations are starting to
- 12:02realize that. And so now that we are in a
- 12:05state in a world where we can utilize generative A I, where we
- 12:09can utilize technology, we can utilize systems and processes to
- 12:12really measure and test and understand where people are from
- 12:17a capability perspective, a behavior perspective and a
- 12:20timing perspective and making sure we're making the right
- 12:24decisions about who we bring in to the company and taking that
- 12:28baseline data. And then having really
- 12:31humanistic authentic conversations in a one-on-one
- 12:34setting throughout an interview to really get down to the source
- 12:37of the truth, but using that data, using that tech as that
- 12:42baseline, as that launching pad, I think that's phenomenal.
- 12:46I think that's phenomenal. I think that's impressive and I
- 12:47think that's really interesting. Excuse me, the last thing that I
- 12:52think is pretty interesting. That that's actually popped up
- 12:55on my radar are here as of probably the last 10 or 12 days
- 13:00has been the fact that organizations can lean deeply
- 13:05into making sure some of the some of the DE and I initiatives
- 13:10are innovative, are thoughtful, are baked into the true fabrics
- 13:17and bones of the organization and are doing so in a way that
- 13:20can really make a meaningful impact.
- 13:23And I think what we're realizing is that DE and I could no longer
- 13:26be a siloed initiative in action, but it actually has to
- 13:30be baked into the fabrics of your TA Town acquisition of
- 13:33your, your internal comms, of your, of your recruiting plans,
- 13:39of your promotion structures, of your employee experience of
- 13:44your. Of your the way that leaders
- 13:48inevitably communicate and understand skill sets and
- 13:51perspectives and workflows of those that they lead, right.
- 13:55It's incredibly important. And so I think one of the simple
- 13:59ways that I've been seeing on the market that's really
- 14:02interesting is having having technology come in, having tools
- 14:08come in where they can literally sit in on calls, the technology
- 14:12and the tool, for instance, and understand the sentiment.
- 14:15To understand the vibes, understand if someone has been
- 14:19given enough moments to speak, to talk, to interact, to engage.
- 14:24Understand if those individuals feel inclusive, feel safe on
- 14:27those calls. It's incredibly important to be
- 14:30able to have that, to know that, to have that data, to know that
- 14:33data, right? Because now in a remote world,
- 14:36we're all on zoom calls, we're all on Google meet calls, we're
- 14:39all on Google Hangout rather and we're all on.
- 14:43We're all on teams and and and and teams calls.
- 14:46We're all doing these things. And and it's incredibly
- 14:49important to be able to really understand if the way that those
- 14:53conversations are going, if the way that those meetings are
- 14:55going are actually going to create a better relationship,
- 14:58actually going to spark innovative minds and thoughts
- 15:01and perspectives and actually take us to where we need to be
- 15:03as an organization, as a team. And as an individual
- 15:06contributor, so to be able to have tools that can measure
- 15:11that, so that we no longer as human beings have to rely on our
- 15:14gut, rely on our perspectives that are also biased.
- 15:18But really look at the hardcore data and the facts of it, right.
- 15:22If you're on a team's call today and you notice if you're on a
- 15:25team's call every week for the next 7 weeks and you notice Ali,
- 15:30who is your Chief Product Officer if you will, or leader.
- 15:35And she has spoke and had time on those calls for 17% of the
- 15:41inevitable, 100% of that call. And throughout the call, every
- 15:45time she spoke, her sentiment and her vibes were very, very
- 15:51dismissive, confusing, a bit frustrating.
- 15:57That's a problem. And to be able to know that data
- 16:00that she's only spoke for that amount of time, to be able to
- 16:02lean into that. Be able to analyze that data and
- 16:04then use that data at the launching port to make decisions
- 16:06and changes makes a lot of sense to me.
- 16:10So I think tools out here that can lean into that it can do
- 16:12that is incredibly exciting, incredibly innovative.
- 16:16And it's something I've been keeping an eye on.
- 16:18And so I wanted to share this episode because number one, I'm
- 16:21in my new home, I've been gone for two weeks.
- 16:23I took a hiatus, but I'm back. And secondly, I just wanted to
- 16:26give you kind of an overall state of the union of things
- 16:28that I'm seeing, things that I'm thinking about.
- 16:32Things that I'm excited about and things that I know for a
- 16:34fact companies need to lean into and care a lot about.
- 16:39So as always, just a few thoughts, just a few
- 16:43perspectives and we will most definitely talk soon.
- 16:48Thanks so much.