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KeyForge Ascension Just Dropped—Here’s Why It Could Change the Game Forever! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Down at the charter ready archana, stories and wisdom, the
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  Speaker 1: chanceling power of the charge down at the ch.
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  Speaker 2: Char Yeah, there literally is no amber control in that dock? Whatsoever?
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  Speaker 3: Is there? There? A little bit?
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  Speaker 4: But there's there's capture, there's capturing, and then there's fight
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  Speaker 4: for it.
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  Speaker 5: But if.
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  Speaker 2: That's your only umber control, well, there's.
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  Speaker 3: Two grammar jammers, there's the there's capture, there's all right,
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody? I am the one, the only w o okay,
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  Speaker 2: I eat joined here by my normal cast of misfits.
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  Speaker 2: We got doctor m sheep.
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  Speaker 3: Where's the m come from?
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  Speaker 2: You'll figure out one day something like that monkey yep.
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  Speaker 2: We got the e woking.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, keyboards community, glad to be here tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And the one that you love the hate the drives boar.
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  Speaker 5: Is that my role?
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be I'm gonna make it a thing one day.
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  Speaker 5: That's why x Ray shows up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he loves the hate, love the hat.
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  Speaker 5: So he just raised his hand.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, with all the new tariffs going into effect,
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  Speaker 2: does that make key Forde the most affordable card game
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  Speaker 2: on the planet right now?
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  Speaker 5: Made in Minnesota? You that are actually putted in the US.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you know what paper.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder where their paper comes from. Their packaging comes
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  Speaker 3: from China.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they probably, yeah, we'll probably. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Does that mean the price of a key Forge neck
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  Speaker 2: is about to go up?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe twenty dollars?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, even even if it's not impacted use,
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  Speaker 5: you know, use the US is gonna be where I
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  Speaker 5: don't know, because everybody knows it's produced in the US. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: we'll see. M hm. Maybe maybe CTP has been stockpiling
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  Speaker 5: card stock and like that sounds like I think for
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  Speaker 5: this plan for the future, and that's why that just
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  Speaker 5: screams ghost galaxy.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they just got an order for all Pokemon cards
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  Speaker 3: to be printed by Art of Forge.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Now, Okay, I'm gonna go out
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  Speaker 2: on a limb and go uh uh m hmm.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it probably is an opportunity for them to
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  Speaker 5: try to market that. You know, you should you should use.
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  Speaker 3: Our normally, i U s costs are better now, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna talk about other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Tons of stuff to go over today, literally tons of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But first up, we got our wiresucker key Forge moment.
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  Speaker 2: And since I see JR highlighted in the in the sheet.
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  Speaker 2: That must mean JR has our why I suck a
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  Speaker 2: key Forge moment?
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  Speaker 5: JR?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you suck a KeyForge?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? Well, so I showed up with a deck wanting
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  Speaker 4: to have some fun.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what KEYFDE is about, sir.
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  Speaker 4: And and our good friend, and you're like, oops, no, No,
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  Speaker 4: our good friend Kimira brought a deck that has a
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  Speaker 4: house enhanced arknometer, and I did not have art and
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  Speaker 4: I did not have artifact control, and so I still
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  Speaker 4: wanted to continue to play this game, and then it
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  Speaker 4: was not fun for either of us. I'm sorry, Kimera.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, is this is this the game on Monday that
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  Speaker 5: we were Yes, it was your playing in mine that
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  Speaker 5: I watched.
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  Speaker 4: You watched is a very very light light light phrase here,
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  Speaker 4: because you checked out so hard.
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  Speaker 5: There were Lisa Forever on your turns. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, we go watch she Wookie play.
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  Speaker 3: What ewok take forever. I mean like, I don't even
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  Speaker 3: know what's in his hand, and I've played his whole
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  Speaker 3: term before he plays his first car.
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  Speaker 5: I think.
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  Speaker 2: I think me and Shep got through a best of
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  Speaker 2: three before.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was and I could Kimira and I could
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  Speaker 4: basically keep going back and forth to take each other
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  Speaker 4: off of check, and once our knometer came, it was
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  Speaker 4: just an endless loop to go ahead and keep cycling
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  Speaker 4: it back. So there's a trailer and a soul vial
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  Speaker 4: on my side and then our cannometer. So yeah, we
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  Speaker 4: can go ahead and totally just keep cycling and capturing
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  Speaker 4: amber or not generating amber and losing amber. It was fun.
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  Speaker 4: I would recommend it zero stars, do not try again.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, why don't you tell the community about what ridiculous
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  Speaker 5: thing that you brought?
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  Speaker 4: Well, So a deck that I opened for my local store.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Funny Bone. Great name, by the way, and
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  Speaker 4: funny Bone. Funny Bone is a g R deck that
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  Speaker 4: is again from our local games universe, so really cool,
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  Speaker 4: and it's very much a troll deck because Sheep loves
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  Speaker 4: his clock, so it has clocks and it has Omnipuss,
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  Speaker 4: so it's a clock the puck. It's a puss clocks
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  Speaker 4: deck and it's so much fun to play. But it
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  Speaker 4: it is, it is a ton it just it really is.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's actually brought some joy back into playing.
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  Speaker 3: Keith Crocks double Raya deck.
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  Speaker 4: Well it's double Raya and double double b r Geist.
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  Speaker 4: There's actually a lot that's going on with it.
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  Speaker 3: That Omni is going to be on the board.
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  Speaker 4: It has a high probability. And so when you think
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  Speaker 4: clocks don't really do anything, they don't. And when we
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  Speaker 4: look at when we look at and Omnipus not really
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  Speaker 4: doing anything, it really doesn't. And you put them together
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  Speaker 4: and it actually does something. It's really funny, but it
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  Speaker 4: does not do well with the house enhanced arknometer.
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  Speaker 2: You know what it does, dude, go to time?
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 3: Now that's not the deck, that's the pilot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's the walk's.
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  Speaker 3: Deck.
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  Speaker 4: No, you would concede. In fact, we went ahead and
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  Speaker 4: talked on Tuesday that we were going to open up
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  Speaker 4: fire and I was good giving us good luck on
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  Speaker 4: our deck pulls, and you said, what sheep, because you
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  Speaker 4: ruined it for us, and I want this known. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna light on fire. And guess what the two decks
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  Speaker 4: we opened three decks. What happened?
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  Speaker 3: We save all dacks guy and our local. So these
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  Speaker 3: trashy trash tacks are still in existence somewhere yep.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm the puss puss clockstack. It's fun so
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  Speaker 4: that one at least doesn't get burned yet.
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  Speaker 2: Suck because you opened a puss clockstack.
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  Speaker 3: No, because he sat down against a non winnable archanometer
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  Speaker 3: game and didn't concede immediately.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I suck a key for just because
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  Speaker 4: when you see that and you don't have hard r
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  Speaker 4: or any way to do.
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  Speaker 5: But to be fair, he never lost.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I really lost because I I wasted a
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  Speaker 4: lot of time that night when I could have played
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  Speaker 4: multiple games. I played one partial game, one meaningless game,
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  Speaker 4: one meaningless partial game. So that's why I sucky keyboard.
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  Speaker 5: Nice. There's three twenty five omniplus chron chron chronometer, dex
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  Speaker 5: inexistence or not chronometer, and special timecreeper decks and existence,
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  Speaker 5: so you have actually rare there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. Well that was actually the line against
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  Speaker 4: the ur Kinometer. I can go ahead and build up
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  Speaker 4: enough enough on the ancestral time keeper to take an
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  Speaker 4: extra turn in order to be able to bypass it.
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  Speaker 4: That's also a very very very long shot strategy.
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  Speaker 6: So actually the highest SaaS one is just i x
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  Speaker 6: i x i x i x i x x i
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  Speaker 6: x x i x I x I x I x I.
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  Speaker 5: X even jige leg that is the name of the deck. Nice.
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  Speaker 2: I was just about to ask if this was somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's like special name deck and that's what they named
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  Speaker 2: it for some reason.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it could be so u remnemal converter. Hold on,
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  Speaker 5: that's just it's ninety well if you add it together,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know this random number converter is advertising women's
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  Speaker 5: underwear to me, my closest I want to be like cheap.
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  Speaker 4: What I will say if you if you find something
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  Speaker 4: that's fun, if you find a fun deck, just enjoy
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  Speaker 4: it for what it is, go ahead and control others,
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  Speaker 4: especially in your local game group, and you know, make
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  Speaker 4: a night of it.
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  Speaker 2: For what it's worth. Before we move on to our
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  Speaker 2: next segment, for those of you who got the Rby's dice,
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  Speaker 2: let me know, I kind of want to set Arby's
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  Speaker 2: dice like Arby has made metal dice. They made a
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  Speaker 2: set of dice. They're all metal and they are Arby's.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I type you get the first suggestion, should is
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  Speaker 5: Arby's DICEY want like the restaurant who cares? All Right,
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  Speaker 5: I put it.
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  Speaker 2: I put it in the chat. They were forty dollars.
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  Speaker 4: They're now going for honey on eBay copy.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that fuckers damn scalps. It looks like meat, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit looks look a little bit like stacked.
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  Speaker 4: They're clear.
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  Speaker 3: These are not impressive.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're metal ones I'm looking at not Are they metal? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're metal?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh no, these ones look clear.
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  Speaker 2: Flamed in forage, crafted with care. All metal dice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had. You know what metal dice are good
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  Speaker 3: for damaging everything you roll them on. Yeah, it looks
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  Speaker 3: like layered roast beats. Yeah, they're just Norse boundary dice,
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  Speaker 3: like you can buy Norse foundery dice that anything.
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  Speaker 5: Y's on them sheep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when's the last time you had Harvey's.
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  Speaker 5: That's not the point, Okay, Purchasing begins at ten am today.
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  Speaker 2: Now if you say mountain, if you said Mountain, dew
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  Speaker 2: on them, I'll forget about it.
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  Speaker 4: Notice the pair that you guys have, and those are
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  Speaker 4: definitely metal, And these are the ones I had, were
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  Speaker 4: just more clear?
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  Speaker 3: Did you click?
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no no, because they have rp's on them.
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  Speaker 4: So they do have Arby's Limit Edition D and D
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: dicet I mean keyboards related, but.
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  Speaker 3: Could have got plastic ones a better choice.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: Wow, all right, okay anything real? You have distracted us
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  Speaker 4: Like usual, Wookie, Way to go.
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Way to go, I find cool things and I talk
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  Speaker 2: about your Your seirteen of worthless things on the internet
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  Speaker 2: is always.
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: It can't all be boobs cheap.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, my favorite boobs bred it's gone. It's it's gone,
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  Speaker 3: got on moderated.
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  Speaker 5: Gone, unmoderated boobs.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: It's just my.
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  Speaker 2: Boob sub reddit is now gone.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: His life is over for sape.
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: How do guys, how do we have a podcast? How
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: do anybody listen to us about this?
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: Because of what she just said in the audience? X
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: Ray left, but I think only because he tried, because
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: right now lost the extra. Well, to be fair, x
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: Ray just found out what Reddit was, so he's like,
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: there are boobs on his website called Reddit. I have
• 12:30
  Speaker 5: to email myself without this.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: He calls me up and he's like, can you fax
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: me a picture?
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: I would fax my a picture of your butt, but
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: that's me I see Eric Eric water Water said, I
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: only came for boob Forge. See more people come for
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: the random thing that I think you give guys give
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  Speaker 2: credit for more degenerates.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, my friends, love you all.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Ah Man, good time. But with that, without distraction and
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: further ado, we got new LP news with Doctor Sheep.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: They updated the tournament guidelines.
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: Yay, new TNG tem RG R t R.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry t RG Next Generation yep, that's what I'm
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: watching right now. I'm watching the TNG for like the
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: fifteenth time, Oh respectable. I usually go through Star Trek
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: like once a year. And then you want to know
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: what other other show I really.
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: Like to watch? Frasier?
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: Wait time out? Are you really tracky? You've gone down
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: on my list? I'm sorry why I can't hang out anymore?
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: I watch I watched Star Trek, I watched Star Wars. Yeah, well,
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: Trek fight liss peasants a voyaser guy? What Atlantis has
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  Speaker 4: got it right with d S nine. D S might
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  Speaker 4: be the greatest Star Trek ever ever done. Now I've
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: created this hell.
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: I like watched Star Trek a lot as a kid,
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: right with my parents. I watched Next Generation WATCHDS nine getting.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: Older, which is always a question of how did you
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: get married?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: But okay, keep going, well.
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: So yeah, well we can go to that story later
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: the uh and then like Voyager started, and I was like,
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: maybe I'm just getting older, Like I don't really like
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: this stuff anymore. Like all they ever do is remodulate
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: the shields, and like the Flyer solves everything the Voyager can't.
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like this is dumb. And so then like I
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: was like, I guess it all like Star Trek anymore
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: because I got old. And then like I remember graduating
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: college and then sitting in my little apartment and just
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: like flipping around cable and like mill and I like
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: Next Generation is on, It's like whatever, I'll watch it.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: And I'm watching I'm like, this is freaking good, Like
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: this show is awesome, and uh, Voyager sucks. That's the
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: moral story.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: So I I came into Star Trek on Voyager, Believe
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: that or not. That was my introduction to it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Janeway, Yeah, Nelix right in Janeway is not the problem.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Neelix is the problem.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: Listen.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: There's something about that that young lady with a smoker's
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: voice that just o.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Well with the Grand Star Lines podcast that we've now created.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I keep talking about Star Trek because we're picking up
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: more in our audience. Keep going, guys, you got this.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: I believe in I mean, I'm just saying, but yeah,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: d S nine. Never liked DS nine for a long
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: time and then I rewatched it on Netflix. Wow, it's
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: quite amazing, quite amazing.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I should rewatch that.
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  Speaker 2: D d S nine just hits different. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it is. It's just it's it's it's not your
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: daddy's star trek.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: No.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of flak when it came out,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it just it hits different. It's it's one
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: you get past. I think like season two, I think
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: is where he uh yeah shaves his head and grows
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: the goatee.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: It just it hits.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Every episode is just a banger after banger after banger.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm curising through this trgh alright ahead of time.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Take your sheep.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Interesting things I am seeing is one, there's tournament structure.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: It does. A tournament consists of rules and a process
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: by which tournament progresses, including match pairings and table assignments.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Official key Forarde tournaments are run using play style to
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: l O casuals. You can do whatever you want. So
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: does that make store championships not official key Forde tournaments?
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  Speaker 3: Because with tell too well, because two l O and
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  Speaker 3: six players.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Is, heyget players, you want to hear another fun fact,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: so qualifying round and said you could read more about
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: play styles too, l o at. Then it gives you
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: a if you click on that link, it's a four
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  Speaker 2: or four error.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, cool. And then under ARCon, the ARCon deck must
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: be complete, un modified, and presented with its original Arkon
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  Speaker 3: identity card. Okay, bro, you can't play a clone without
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: the original ARCon identity card, which means if you lose
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the ar Kind identity clone, the clone deck means nothing
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: kind of values the whole, like clone being able to
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: replace stuff. So the all of us who shredded all
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: our pointless junk well still jump because we don't have
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: original ARCon identity cards except for the few grades of
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: people who kept those, which.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Hey, but that's new Thoi you won.
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  Speaker 2: I kept all my ARCon identity cards. The only thing
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: out of all that that I kept was was the
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  Speaker 2: Archon card.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no, that's why I said you won. But honestly, shape,
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  Speaker 4: I think that that's just something that will be adjusted.
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  Speaker 4: I can't see that as being problematic. They want the
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  Speaker 4: clone decks to be able to be playing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't do I don't think they do think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people being like the bullshit that's going on
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  Speaker 3: with these clone decks, where so your decks from overseas
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  Speaker 3: are all going to be here in the US for
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  Speaker 3: every vault because well maybe not.
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  Speaker 4: We're we're going to talk about some actual things that
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  Speaker 4: came from this TRG. But you're actually arguing that they're
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  Speaker 4: trying to pull the rug out from us, that that
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  Speaker 4: number of people bought clone decks and they're like, ha, suckers,
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  Speaker 4: you gave us money.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like something they would do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean I can't.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: I can't go ahead and go against you, but man,
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  Speaker 4: that would be even low for gg I.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: MVM five are legal. Yeah, that's right. No, that was
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: you guys want to talk about this whole deck ascension section.
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  Speaker 5: Huh yeah, no, no, no wait wait.
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  Speaker 4: He said the TRG. Oh no, I read that. That
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  Speaker 4: was my reading for yesterday. See when you guys are
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: going ahead and watching Star Trek, and said, some of
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: us read books and articles, you know, actual literature, but
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: well this is this is.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Mighty. I am. I read the t RG. You guys
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: were watching Star Trek. I was reading Socrates and writing essays. Well,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: you just watching it I was reading fiction.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I can't disagree this is fiction, okay, but we look, uh,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: what am I going on and reading? It's actually a
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: side story that is else in Wonderland.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Oh I was gonna say, I am reading the.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: The what you'll call it the from a different point
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of view, the untold stories from Star Wars.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, the other one is a professional mind.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: What But it also takes too much concentration to read
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: a book and do something else at the same time.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Just don't read a book and walk. But that sounds awful,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Slow down and just enjoy the book anyway. Now back
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: to our That.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Sounds like your brain is on underdrive, Like more more,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I need more stimulation. No, yes, yes, I do, all right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: stimulate me, walk, stimulate me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Now that the boob website is down, I used.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: To be able to listen to a book, look at
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: the boob website, and play key forts at the same time.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Wow, I guess you're just gonna have to make a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Twitter account now.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Is that what the M stands for? More things at once?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: No, it stands for masturbation for them all right? Oh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I did like in here our edition for media spectators,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: So I think that clears up a really nice area.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: We have a lot of UH fans and people in
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: the community who are live commentary, and I appreciate that dearly,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: and so I think it's just something that we've taken.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: But now it being in the conduct helps to.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: So one thing we still don't have clear rulings on
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: is the damn duck languages? Am I the only one
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that was crazy enough? And I swear to God, I
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: swear I heard that English was going to be the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: only language allowed in US Vault tours.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Well, so it was the official language of the country
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: basically where it was being run. So yes, you're correct
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: in that English is our primary language here, but it
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: has not been put into the TRG and so apparently
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: that's not an issue.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: So I did find section Oh is that in there? Yeah?
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: What pages that on the spectators? Oh oh, that's like
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: if we're yeah, if we're live streaming. Uh, it has
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: to be inaudible to the players of the match, must
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: be respectful and refrain from using harsh language. So can't
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: can't add to the square jar, which we already do, right, Well,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: that's what we do, but now it's official making overly
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: critical statements about players actions or covering topics that are
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: not relevant to the match. So we can't talk about
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: d Space died on the Ghost Galaxy stream.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: About the dard Yeah, just wait for Rochester. I actually
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: thought that the first line in that second paragraph under
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: media spectators was more important dress score. When providing coverage
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: for a match, media may interact with players prior to
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the commencement of play in a match, but only together
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: relevant information for coverage. It does not have anything to
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: do with judge because there have been a number of
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: times where people have identified misplays and that have been
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: missed by other individuals and it's so much easier and
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: you're just focused on commentating versus being in the match.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: My question for this, But it is not.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: It is not specified there. So that's interesting.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Hey, where we met, you should let us know no, no,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: because the.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: First time I'd actually read it was that you actually can't.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: But it is still allowing that option and we should.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: We want clean play. So if someone makes an honest
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: mistake and it has an impact on the game long term,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: it is important to be able to like you'll see pause,
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: go ahead and let the judge know and then they
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: can interact. That's that's what's there.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: But this is actually been what's happening, and that is
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: a team that they're planning on bringing the s in
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: for Like, so far, all the media has been Josh.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not Josh, who's been doing all the media. Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the other j J and J. Yeah, it's it's a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: person or group providing media coverage. This is open to
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: any of us to helping out.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: So I'm not like that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I think that the knowledge base that our community offers
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: is really important to growing this game and being able
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to provide better engaging media.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Jeremy don't know shit about this game, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: he knows a lot about the Nintendo.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: We two just announce today.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, switch to my bet switch to It has.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Been announced before, but yes, there is new information today,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: all the pricing and yeah, all of the goodness. Again,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: we all have our own skill set, so I think
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: utilize individuals who have the background and can identify what
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the cards are from their play.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: What else do we find anything else interesting from this?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Before we move on to the big big news.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Special accommodations was minor, but we did see some issues.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: He want to give more time. Now, that is not
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: what the special accommodation is. Cool yours doesn't have the
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: little asterisk at the bottom, I have no problem mind
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: does Opponents of ewoks will get more time.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Ray they've clarified on electronic devices, So going ahead and
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: basically you can use it for key Forge Master Vault,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: but no third party. We had seen that, but that's
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: actually in here more officially now. I thought they did
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a lot more on the official tournament structure, which she
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: was talking about earlier, and specifically actually listing your top
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: cut So that was interested. What interesting when your talking
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: suggested top cut sizes, I thought was pretty fun. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I'm hopeful, boys and girls, let's get two hundred and
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: twenty nine players and that means there's the top sixteen
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: for day two. Right, That's how that's what we're reading.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: That'll be awesome.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Depends on time and flights, but we'll see. But the
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: big news coming out of this deck Ascension. Dec Ascension
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: can be what, okay.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Are we done? Guys.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Dec Ascension can be succinctly described as a deck utilized
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: in arcnnor Alliance tournament that enables player to qualify for
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: the World Championships will be marked as ascended for the season,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: along with decks that achieve first place ascended all right,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: along with deck that achieves first place regardless of whether
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the player qualified a prior tournament. Comprehensive rules are in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the TMG update, but the highlights are as follows. Decks
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that place first at a Vault Tour National Championships and
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the ar Connor Alliance will be ascended. Deck that qualify
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: as a player for the World Championships or a Vault
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Tour or National Championships will ascend regardless of placement. Every
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Vault Tour National champion Ship tournament in twenty twenty five
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: will qualify the first and second player, so often that
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: means that the second place deck will ascend. Qualifications that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: pass down count count, so it's possible for fourth through
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: eighth place decks to ascend invite passing stops at eighth place.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: It's kind of something new, like I guess, I don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: know if we've ever gotten that far, but it cuts
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: off of it outside the top four. I don't I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: think it has. I want to say it has. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: want to say it has. That first year I think
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it did. Ascended decks cannot be used at Vault Tour
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: or National Championship tournaments for the remainder of twenty twenty five.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: In both our con and Alliance formats, Ascended decks cannot
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: be used at the twenty twenty five World Championships or
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Open tournaments. At key Forge Celebration, a
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: list of ascended decks will appear on the brand new page,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the Hall of the Ascended. A special deck accolade will
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: be assigned to ascend a decks to make distinguishing them
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and the Master Vault easier. It should be mentioned that
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: sealed does not included on purpose. We view opening a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: great Seal deck for use in later ark on our
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Alliance tournament as part of the essential magic of key Forge. Also,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: these decks already can be used in another sealed tournament. Also,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they can't be used in another sealed tournament because of
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the very nature of how sealed works.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: A lot of them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: So all right, So for our.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: I believe sheep, you were at the Canadian Nationals two
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: years ago and that was the longest that we saw
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the pass down and I believe that was fourth. I
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: don't think it went to fifth. That would be the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: only one in question. Okay, so Wookie, you were asking
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: about that. Back back to things, it's actually even fourth.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I think it was third, but I'm not certain at
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: this point.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That's irregardless now because now dec ascension is here, I
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: don't know who you want to start with, and maybe
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we start with the one who actually might have the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: chance to get a dec ascended doctor sheep, So I.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Actually think that belongs to dras Boorg.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, so Josh says Italy went to fifth,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: so that there was a fifth.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, So yeah, I mean, like I was being
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: in a troll earlier today on the old discord, But
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I think that ascension in general is a very good idea.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: It the.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: It already felt in the last year or two that
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: it wasn't super stagnant, but there were definitely a handful
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: of das me being one of them or only one
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: of them that you see making top eight at over
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: half of the vaults right run in a year, let
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: alone just in the US, and with clones becoming a
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: thing and those decks being available everywhere, that was only
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: potentially going to get worse. So I think it's it
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: is important. I don't know if it actually really it
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: makes a little bit of an impact. But I also
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: know several of the players who are likely to win
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: a Vault next season have more than one viable deck.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: So yeah, like, in some ways, I know I feel
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: impacted more than the next because if I managed to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: qualify with fraud again, I don't have another deck to play, right,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I don't have anything else that's anywhere near that quality.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: But I make assensions. Fine, I'm ready for it. There
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: was some talk about how like world stacks should be
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: permanently ascended out, and that I have a problem with.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: But that's not a reality.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So I think all first and the second place stack
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: should be permanently ascended out.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you're an idiot at vault.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Like you play it once, you just won a vault
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: with it, or took second or second, did not win,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: and the prizing you get for winning doesn't equal equality
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: deck like to lose your best dack whatever, and then
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: you don't.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: What do you get for that?
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: The ability to have to go acquire another one.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Time garbage timeout cheap. Are you telling me that the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: prize support offered for second is not good? Is that?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Oh? Is it good for something to be permanently taken away,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: being that our current costs enter the event is, in
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: my opinion, fairly low. Comparatively. The quality of the prizes
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: are fine, not good, but fine. But if you start
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: permanently taking stuff away from people, know, the prize quality
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: is terrible.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: So you telling me, sheep that you go to these
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: events just for the prizes.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, we're not talking that I
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: go to these events for many other things. Sure, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: she losing, but permanently losing a deck availability to be
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: played forever changes the equation, regardless of if you're an
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: idiot like me and spent a bunch of money. Yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: most people still, even if they have opened collections, only
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: have one really good deck, and to lose that like
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: your your interest in like, well, then I'm done with
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: vaults for the season because I got nothing else to play.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: And then you also like go like you don't want
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: you've killed the secondary market because you only get to
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: win with a deck once and the value of what
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: you win is a joke. When you think about a
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: deck going away permanently goes away for the season, It
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: goes away for the season. That doesn't really bother me.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: But a permanency removal is a very bad bad idea.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: So now we just have the same sex win over
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and over once a year.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: But that may be already really happened.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: M Yeah, there's only a few that you be a
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: whole time, right, And I don't know, like for like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I do wonder for folks that will only have one
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: real deck right now? She you're you're an example versus
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: folks that have more than one deck. Are the folks
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: that have more than one real good deck more or
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: less likely.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Before this to want to go?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about Aria because you already moved
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: off of it?
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: Well, only because I so many times I still think
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: it's my best.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Well, he has to win with it or play second
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: for him to lose it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna play. I'm almost definitely playing it at Rochester.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: Maybe I shouldn't, I don't know. Maybe I should my
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: other deck Rochester. I'm not sure yet. I I do
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: have another deck I like. I sort of have three
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: decks I like, but I think Aria is the best
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: of them. But U, I don't know. There are some
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: players who come to a bunch of things that have
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: a lot of decks but then there's some players that don't,
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: So I don't know if it's going to dissuade folks.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: The players only one deck, is it going to dissuade them?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: So it was in a deck forever and official play
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: is just an appalling thing because if you have a
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: deck that you acquired because you like its play style
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: and now it's just gone and yeah anybody who said
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: still playing casual? Who cares?
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: You can play it casual?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Who cares? Yeah?
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: So I was arguing with King of Bling a bit
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: about this at locals tonight. He was like, ah, they
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: did go fart off. It should have been forever.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I was like, what are you talking about? It should
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: have been forever.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: This is a lot of people who don't really think
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: they're gonna win with the deck, and they want to
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: see other people's toys taken away. That's what that thought is.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, I do what it is.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I'm tired of seeing the same decks over and over
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and you're I mean, you're still gonna see what they did.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Doesn't solve the problem, It just makes it. Now one
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: it's a year thing as opposed to a you know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: multiple times a year thing. Now, now I don't name
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: decks that have truly just dominated.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Anything.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: So so this was actually part of what I looked
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: at the idea of f FG versus GG. If we
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: look at f FG, I did not necessarily see this
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: as an issue. I saw a lot of the same
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: top players. I did see a couple of decks I
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: think with GG. Technically you saw Nova's deck which was
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: extremely well piloted Carrie multiple.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Times was only carried that was carried by a pilot.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Correct, But you also see then fraud fell with multiple
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: different pilots going ahead and taking it farther.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: And then I'm I have no problem with it being
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: put out after event, but I yeah, but where I
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: don't have a problem with it qualifying somebody again.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: That's yeah.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I actually think that how they how they handled it
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: was very very well with the once a Year. But
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: what I want to talk about here is I think
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I've seen a difference. I've seen a difference with Gigi,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: and the honest truth is, I think this is the
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: best bet one. We've been asking for this for a while,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: so thank you Gigi for actually putting it into effect.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: This is something that needed to happen for for Arkhan
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: and for Alliance, seeing multiple players qualify under one deck,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: it became problematic. So potentially you could make the argument
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: the first year with Ooz going ahead and multiple people
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: being able to play it. You can talk about Bandola
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: for last year going ahead and qualifying multiple individuals. Those
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: are decks that stand out that they are a point
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: one percent, and that's really what we're looking at. Some
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: things that jump out to me. It feels maybe a
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: little bad if I'm trying to argue on the one side,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: because there was a comments of Evergreen with KeyForge, I
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: think that we're honestly past that point. I would argue
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: long ago, yeah, we wanted Evergreen, but the thing that
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: left with Evergreen once GG picked up is that I
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: don't see balance sets anymore. So you have this need
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: for power creep in any individual game. How that is
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: done is mechanically, but I don't see the time and
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: intention putting into this sets to make them so that
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: they are balanced with those mechanisms and the card pool.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: And so I've seen such a wide swing in the
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: GG sets, That's the honest truth. I've seen a huge
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: increase in power, and I've seen a wide swing in
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: where that range of decks is it can be great
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: for sealed, it can be awful for sealed. But right now, sheep,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: you and I were even talking in Tuesday as I
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: was heading down to the local, like ARCon right now
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: is ugh. It kind of leaves a bad taste in
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: my mouth, like we have thrown out just to general idea,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: would you prefer to play sealed on Friday and then
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: have sealed ar hun or Alliance on Saturday?
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: And it's an and then said just run.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I say, okay, yeah, oh, Sidney just really liked it,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: That's what it was.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I went ahead and said, why don't we put sealed
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: an arccun on Oneday and sealed an Alliance on the other.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: So here's your Friday Saturday. So one is sealed Arkun,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: one is sealed Allons. And I think that you would
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: see a high increase in people playing see and by
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: that he.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Means a sealed tournament and the ARCon tournament run simultaneously
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: and then on Saturday a sealed tournament and separately the
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Alliance tournament run. So alliant, but I think in a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: sixty player tournament you would have less than twenty people
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: play ARCN And so that's really where the is to
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: just run sealed again. Correct, So sealed is the bread
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and butter of this game. It's a great experience.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Anyone feels that they can win the lottery and open
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: a great deck, but yet you still have skill that's
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: showing up from the pilots and that we can see
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: when you see multiple individuals placing consistently in the top eight.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: So I like that aspect. I think sealed is where
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: this game shines.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I thought you were like sealed ARCon like get three
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: pick one and then sealed the Alliance where it's get
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: three Alliance on that.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I also in both of those if you were to
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: run the event.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Well, that could be fun. So you could do sealed
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Arkon right, like we talked like it would we see
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: buy three pick one and then also have ARCon that
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: same day, and then you could have sealed Allions where
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you're running all.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Steal the Alliance and ARCon versus stealed ARCon and Alliance.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then sealed Alliance. Right, you could alliance your
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: decks one day.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: And you could always do Alliance if you want to,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: or always do ARCon if that was your thing. I think,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: you know, if I went to five Vault tours a
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: year at some point I wouldn't want to play Double Sealed,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: but if I only went to one or two, I think,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would play s Field until I got
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: a World invite, and then I would go, well, maybe
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I'll drive for one of these other events, right.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: So keep that in mind that some very competitive players
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: lean towards that. That shows kind of where the game
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: is at for ark On and Alliance right now, both
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: in player.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: Pool and.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: One of the correct But that's that's what we're interested in.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: This is a competitive key Forge podcast, so I want
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: to put that out there. I do think that the
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: announcement for Ascension was desperately needed in the situation that
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: we're in right now, So I think that how they
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: handled it, I know what you want to see more
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: aggression on them removing, but I think the temporary hey,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: you are paused out until World's played at Worlds, I
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: like that. I do not want to see decks at
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: this point completely removed. I just I think that you
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: can come back the next year. I think that we
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: have not seen like Ooz did not transition into the
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: GR market, and I want to see what GR does
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: with Amber Sky's I think that it still will be there,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: but I think that amber Sky's and Talk pose problems
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: for GR and so all three of those I'm very
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: curious on the breakdown of what the tournaments will run.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Those two sets and what they do well are even
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: less interactive than some of the gr stuff. And this
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: is this is going to get played at Vauteurs is
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the watch me win the game kind of decks because
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that's what wins games.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have to interact with this, what else?
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: You just go ahead and win.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna win over here doing this broken thing.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: So there was definitely a need for power Creep or
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: to actually invest the time in balancing sets as we
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: saw multiple sets released in a very short period of
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: time last year. There's a real question about that, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: that was a decision that Gigi has made. They now
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: have to live with those consequences. But if you have Evergreen,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I think this is the best choice of how to
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: handle so that you can have a competitive scene. But
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: still like our community is amazing, so we want people
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: to come out, we want people to play, but I
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: want to make sure that there's some options. I want
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: to see some different flavor. Now I'm hoping that for
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: next year. One of the things that comes about it
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: is that you will rotate where the tournaments start, so
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: it's not always out on the East coast, or not
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: always in the Midwest, or not always on the West coast.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: But if that rotates, it has an impact on the
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: final vault to our location versus an earlier vault to
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: our location. That provides some extra challenges for Josh and
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: the team. But I think as is written, they did
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: a really nice job to put Hey, you're getting an ascension, Accolade,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: so something to look forward to. It signifies you. But
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: you can use this that world's but we're going to
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: go ahead and change it in the future. So I
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Accolade's nice.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, I think that it was the proper way
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: and again something that they can do. I think that
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: they could potentially do a little bit more with what
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: the prizing is for the top eight and frankly anyone
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: else who's just there. But that's kind of been the
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: running joke, is to put a volunteer system together to
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: put prize support together with the money and with the
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: supplies that are there. I know it's limited, but we
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: have a great community I just wish that everyone from
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: bottom all the way up would actually be able to
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: enjoy something versus.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Well, everybody gets something. When you go to a Vulture,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: sure you get.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: A pen, and you get your Vault Master twenty five. Again,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I can go ahead and turn it over. But if
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it just it doesn't.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: But in other card games, other events that I've gone to,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: the promos and the items that I'm receiving feels like
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: it's actually special and it has meaning. And here it's
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: just like, I open this Vault Master twenty five deck
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: that is horrible, and I will play once for sealed
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: and that's it, and I don't need another trash deck
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: that frankly, Sheep and I are apparently going to burn
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: because that's our new thing.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: So yeah, well I think next week I continue to
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: think they should lean into that, which makes this game unique.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: Right So yes, deck names, unchangeable decks, right so so
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: so in the chat, by the way, this is related
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: what list Pezant asks if you win the highest hor
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: in the game, is it really such a big deal
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: that you have to retire that deck? Meaning retire the
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: deck forever? I think is what he was saying basically so,
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: and I said in the chat, yeah, it's a big deal,
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: and she said, now, oh and then I.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Read that question wrong, but yeah, that is a very
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: big deal.
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, or I read it wrong. But AnyWho. So,
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: the reason that I think you shouldn't go all the
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: way to full out retiring or sending forever is because
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: the part of the soul of this game is I,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: you know, I have this named deck that I have
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: this affinity to, and it is you know, it is
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: mine and nobody else's, and nobody else has this this
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: unique thing. Yes, I can lend it, but but it's
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: you know, you you generate that kinship that that with
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: your deck, that attachment and so permanently removing it I
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: think goes against a bit of what makes this game
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: unique and special. So I think what they did here
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: in terms of temporarily setting it aside, I think that's
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: a fine for you know, test it out first steps,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: see where it goes. But I wouldn't want to go
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: have it gone forever. And for prizing, I think they
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: need to lean more into how can you deliver prizing
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: that emphasizes that the deck you just won with is
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: special and unique. Like the posters they did were kind
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: of cool. I don't know, do something more there or
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: or something else that that leans into.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Who had says something in the chat about that special border,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: some sort of special something.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: I think, yeah, should have.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: To dress up as your ark on and take the.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: CTP has got to get a tattoo on his ass
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: of your wanted to business days.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: But here's the thing, boys, I wanted to be something
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: attached to that deck, you know, going ahead and facing
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: off against Becky, which was run justs and thousands of times,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Like you can see the time and energy that someone's
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: put into it. Let alone, there's individuals who spent a
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: considerable amount of money on these decks. So you're either
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: if we're now eliminating them, okay, we're just hoping more
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: for a lot that I'm gonna win, and now I
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: have access to this, I've been.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Actually for a lottery, a lottery. So you might win,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: you might get you might get kindling, right, you might,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: you might.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: But there are some individuals who are investing a lot
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: more in this game, and so then it just fallows
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: again more to the whale or the person who is
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: being able to invest that money. I want to be
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: able to see that there are options for a deck
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: to be able to like have something unique that's attached
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: to it. If I'm getting another deck that has no connection, correct,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: is hard unique enough? I don't know. Is that really
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: what's wowing you and what's pushing you to come back?
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Is that the name of the deck?
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: The game game?
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: I keep coming back the game that attachment the alcohol.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: So you're looking at community, Okay, yeah.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, well you could call it community. I call it
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: alcohol tomato tomatow I see screeching halts on that one.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: None of us have. I mean, like, accolades are cool,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I personally, the thing I try to collect more than
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: anything else are the short print semi unique pins you can.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Get why just because like they have no value.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: I don't take them anywhere. I don't show them to
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: people much anymore. But I don't know. I'd like the
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: physical gitch of that better than the thing with accolades,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: because they didn't. They haven't, whether they do it or not.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: They haven't also implemented that thing where your player the
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: player profile ORNs the accolade too, because like to show
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: somebody all the accolades I've got is like here, look
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: at this list of seventeen different decks with random accolades
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and you're like, uh, yeah, I'm not going to click
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: through more than.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: One of those.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: So even going a bit on my.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Player profile and I'd be like, look at all the
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: shit I've done.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: I want so many accolades that you can't even see
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: the art anymore.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: But I think don't need art.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: But I think sheep's onto something where it's if it's
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: attached to the individual player, it holds more value there
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: and you can point to that deck or link to it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: To be honest, when I have all of my decks
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: that have different treatments, I have them on the wall
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: over on the side. I started to pull them up
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: because I'm like, I got to do something with it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: But I put a whole bunch of them just in
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: with the sets because they really don't mean anything. I
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: open it up, I'm like, oh, it's a trash deck.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it just have each special print and the
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: rest of it can all go right, And that's what
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I guess. The same shredder bin is everything else.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kept one of each special. I don't know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: but I kept one of each. But outside of that,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: like once you've had it, it doesn't matter anymore. Same
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: with the mats. Matt was great at first, but I
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: don't need fifty mats. I'm worried. I was a pin
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: person early on. I'm worried that the pins are going
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: to do the same thing. So my my thing is,
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I think that Josh isn't a real pickle here, because
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: what do you provide for support when your game is limited?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Every game is you just win more junk?
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: You don't aid, yes, but it feels like these items are.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: It feels even worse. I don't know.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I also like, I never sold anything I want in
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: any game, so it's always been just more junk I
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: don't need.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's because I don't know.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: That's because I'm not monetarily motivated. I don't care about the.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: Money, right.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: But every other game, when you win stuff you I
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: mean a lot of games do have cash prizes.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: So that's the thing.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Not that many games have cash prizes.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: But even even today that idea for cash prize was
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: thrown out. No no, but you you say boring, But
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: even here, I think something of five hundred dollars is better.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Like when people are looking at their decks, it can't
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: be here, here's twelve decks, or here's three decks, here six, Like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: it's got to be.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: It's got to be what you're losing right now. And
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: the theory of it being a loss is a business.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: You are not going to replace one tenth of the
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: value whether you open the deck or not, right, Like,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: that's not happening with current pricing.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: So that is the reason why I think that we
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: cannot do permanent bands. I just you can't. When you've
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: invested the time, the energy, the money into a deck,
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: we we cannot just go ahead and toss it because
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: well it won in events.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it would discourage uh loans, right, Like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: if you loan somebody a deck, lose a person and
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: not the end of the world. Right, if they do
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: really well with it, I'd be probably happy for them.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: If it's like I loan you the deck, you do well,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: and I could never ever play this again, Like that's
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: like that feels like that feels rough, Like I would
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: hesitate at that point. I think the loaning of decks
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: is is cool. I get that Bandola was loaned many
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: a times and won three times, right, or at least
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: qualified three times? And that that's what that's what they're
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: trying to go at and and so I I get that,
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: I agree with that, but I think the general concept
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: of hey, you know, you got folks who've got a
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: whole bunch of decks and let's you know, loan them
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: out a Monk's Friends teammates Rando's, I think that's I
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: think that's a cool part of you know, cool part
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: of the game.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I ac chat over here on the side for
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: a live show, you know, Josh, I see what you're saying.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: With most games through a play set of cards at
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: you that cost them ten cents. Let's be real. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: disagree about that. I think the box, yes, it is
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: going to cost them minimum, but then think about how
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: little you're giving us. If we're giving us a one
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: box of Vault Master like that is pathetic versus an
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: absolute case. You say, FAB does cash. Fab actually came
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: out after key Forge. I think that the idea for
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: key Forge and Cash was just too much for the
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: player base at that time. And that's where the real
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: idea is. We can't be going for five thousand dollars,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: but you can put out here's five hundred, and that's
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: a much more sustainable amount. So the amounts really needed
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: to be looked at, in my opinion. But the idea
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: that hey, it's just ten cents, then give us more, honestly,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: give us more product. I don't necessarily want to see that.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: But if it's sealed product, at least your top players
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: and people who are qualifying can do something with it
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: if it's of a valuable set. So the problem is
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: is that when we have this really really random range
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: and it's not competitive, then people don't want to put
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: up the set, and so that, like, in my opinion,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: I think that you're in a tough spot as to
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: what prize support to throw out. But I still like
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: the silly idea from long ago of a selection. So
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: I know that we've talked about, hey, here's the wall
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: to choose from, but the idea is that there's choice.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: And so if someone wants a bag or a T
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: shirt from long ago with FFG, guess what they got it.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: And we don't have the overhead to do that anymore,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: but the idea is that they could select.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Something maybe well I'm still getting shit from twenty nineteen.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: But they can choose.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Dev's telling people that making up lies about the nineteen
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: on shit.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: But the short answer, the short answer is that by
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: allowing choice, people can choose what they want. So if
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: she wants a pin and I want a deck, guess what,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: both of us are happy. And right now that's missing
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: because here it is and spring just going to everyone
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: who placed is in one all that choices is which
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: is why I said that it is not something they
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: can do at this point. But the short answer is
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: then put in for your game found If that's what
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: we're going to continue to run, go ahead. Here is
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: the money that is set aside just for op I'm
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: curious to see who we go ahead and support that
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: We have chain on the on the other side. But
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: the community, frankly has done more to support this game
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: that I've seen. We have a phenomenal community. Lean and
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: keep thinking of using the ideas. Don't just keep stealing
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: from us, but let's use things that like right now,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: right now, are we having items that are attracting more
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: people to our game? Is there marketing? Is there any
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: way to be able to reach out if we're competing
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: we see is.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Going right now?
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: It's the same that's there.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: Let's as send this rant.
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: Yes, I make make the prize support maketh great again.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: But when it had cash, it wasn't great.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, no, no, the large amount of
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: cat yeah, the large.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Amount keeps asking for five hundred dollars.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Well no, no, that's that's what's just.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: That was what was thrown into our discord today and
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: it was not from me, and it was from someone else.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: But the idea of having a much smaller amount. Again,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: if you want to put product out, put product out,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: but it can't be here's one box or two box,
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: it's not enough.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Box of Come on, what is arguably so which is
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: almost cell than just regular. Then the regular set is rough.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Right, Like, let's let's be really that sheep, you're not collected.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Let's be honest. The Vault Master twenty four. We collected
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: the specifically geotag ducks. Now that should actually hold value
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: because those are coming from top eight now they're worth
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: they're worth nothing. I actually, I mean I'm sure.
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: They're worth something, but yes they are not. Nobody cares.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: Nobody cares.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Sadly, nobody cares.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I spent more on going ahead and getting shipping, and
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I'm proud of that that we have a set. But
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: outside of that, that's something for us. Yeah, but they're
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: not something that you're going and selling. They're not something
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: you're making money.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Sidney Sydney Is was onto it. I think she was
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: saying this one again, where like they should have the
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: geotag ones for sale at even if it's just one
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: per player, but like the geotagged one should be for
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: sale because everybody who goes to the event should just
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: be able to get one and geotag the current set
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: for the winners, not these DVM random whatever they are.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not on jam side where I think
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: VM should not exist, but I'm also would be happier
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: if they didn't exist. It's just another another thing that
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't perform more kindle interest, talent the game. I don't
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: even open them anymore, Like they're just just don't care
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: about them.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Well, the challenge is it goes back to just how
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: a few resources they have to actually.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: So why are we investing? Why are we investing in
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: another set? Why don't you put the gu take on
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: the present sets and then waste less time there? Right,
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: it's putting, it's literally putting a different section that says
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: vault Master or instead of aaut Master. It says the
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: location for for that deck, that's the only thing that
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: would be there. You have to change that from location
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: to location. We know how many people are going to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: place in the top eight, so you should be able
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: to print off that amount of boxes they go out.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: You don't have extras done. If you want to have
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: just a general that's non that is non specialized treatment, fine,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: send that out for everyone that's there and the extras
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: throughout the year. Offer it up to the stores, offer
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: to people online to be able to purchase at the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: end of the year. If that's what you want, you're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: just opening it up at KFC. Like the amount of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: people that had access to it at KFC, like you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: just come, all right, go grab vault Master. People didn't
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: even want it last.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Year because it's dog shit, and every year it's worse
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: and worse and.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Worse, Which is what is what I was talking about earlier.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: If if if if vault Masters had any sort of
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: anything or even the fucking ability to like you haven't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: seen faults. Yeah, I'm you know what, I'm just you're
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: here now take a twenty just because I'm going off right,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: because I mean, vault Masters is just it's bullshit, right,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: there's never anything good in them.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: It's not just there's very few good things.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: And I don't know four there's nothing.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: What is?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: You open two of them and well you think we
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: don't have the internet?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: Go Look they have high sas VM twenty four decks
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: and they are still suck.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: They're not winning a Vault to They're not a Vault
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Tour caliber deck. And this is an all or nothing game.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: It either it either has the ability to win a
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Vault Tour or it does not, and if it does not,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: it is worthless. Why do we if if that is
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: truly the value of this game, you shouldn't ever, you
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: should not play it, and you should not open decks because.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: That is not the value of this game. Tell me
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: where the value lies playing the game. I play it
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: every Tuesday, and you're playing it with trash decks that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: don't mean anything, and that's fine.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: So why do we want more than Yeah?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: Why was my next question? Why would I want more decks? Then? Well, yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: I have plenty of trash. Well, so so I I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: have a question. I have a VM question for you guys.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: All right, so VM twenty five, Right, we just saw
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: it in the TRG. What do you think the chances
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: are that they accidentally make it like super.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Good, well like like they took the logos from VM
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: twenty three, the shadows from VM twenty four and drop
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: bogus gioids in there.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm yeah, like whoops and so like, and then
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: everybody wants it and then everybody's passed again.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Again I'm gonna come through.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Did turn out to be another DT set in that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: it had absolutely crazy logos and you could move a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: lot of other bad cards because the other houses just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: don't really cut the mustard. That's that's how VM twenty
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: three played out and VM twenty four shadows are bust.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: That's that is how those sets seem to be playing out.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: So again, this is where that balance set and you're
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: looking for that point one percent of a deck. Sure
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be something there's there's gonna be something there,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: but it seems it just seems as a money grab
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: for Gigi Again, something else here.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Just a money is okay for a company that's for
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: profit like that seems to be what they want.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: To do, Yes, but you have to have people to
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: buy the ship.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I agree, And is not a group that buys many
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: So we don't have name, but they clearly have done
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: enough that they think it's worth doing.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Again, we're just here because people buying.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: That let's not well, fine, I have no problem with
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: them making it and selling it. I don't want them
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: to give it to me as prizes if I do, well,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: what would you want to say?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: I would rather take the current set for sure, the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: current regular set than the VM set. I just like
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I added, I don't. I am not that attracted to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: their extra sets.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: So my question then comes, Wookie, if instead of VM,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: if that VM twenty five ended up being at spice
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: level that was comparable to GR are you now interested
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: in it? Yes, and so that's what I see driving
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: you here. But I think the people who are international
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: and people who have less access to the number of
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: vaults that we have, it becomes a real problem in
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: their argument of I don't see vms as ever being
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: something that's going to be super spicy, and for that
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: reason I hope they put it up. But that I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: think is a problem all by itself, and I think
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: it's a waste of time that we should just invest
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: in balancing the sets that are coming out don't throw me.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Here is my Discovery set, here's my vault Master set,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: here's my talk set. Like, just focus on it, focus
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: on what you're going to do and do a good
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: job with them, so that there is a slight increase
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: in power, but we're going to have a higher threshold
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: of decks that are just good.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, I really think they should turn up
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: the gas on the prizes to especially if they keep
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: them at the number of boxes they're giving away now
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: to where it's like current set has Geo tag and whatever.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: The special version of the gamelay in game PUD was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: guaranteed gigantic, guaranteed anomaly, guaranteed skybeast whatever, right, because it
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: proved pretty well proven at this point that turning that
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: knob up isn't creating Like that's not like a guaranteed
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: way they're gonna get a competitive deck. I think there
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: is the ability and I know what he would vote
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: for it and be like, yes, let's have that now,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: the ability to turn that job too far right where
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: you'd be like, and you can pick your houses, and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: you can name a common you're gonna have in every deck, right,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: and then you're pushing it. You know you're taking away
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: the randomness of the generator too much, and you're losing
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: what key forge is.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Too much hands from gig to work on it. You
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: need something that I can I can go hide.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: I already have the code to do this auto generation stuff.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: It's still so that's what I'm saying.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: But like, I think that the prizes for competing needs
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: do especially. I mean, like I don't mind winning decks,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: but it does need to be turned up because the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: decks don't equate to much.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: The decks are just too random. That's that that is
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: key for it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: But if you take then you're playing like Broken Menagerie.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: Well hold on right, sure, But if we're only throwing
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: out here's twenty four decks for going ahead and making
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: it all the way to that top spot, that is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: so challenging to be able to do in if you
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: have the same gauntlet that you're going through in let's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: use lor Kana or Stars Minis or like any of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: the other games that we've played. I just there's more
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: product that's available. It is more than two boxes. Like
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: your your top players in your top eight are getting or.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: A matt a deck book and a guaranteed or whatever
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Morgan here second and sealed open was one box like
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: it is. Lol, it is laughable because that is.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: GG value of fifty bucks according to maybe maybe sixty bucks.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: I think it is no GG value, not shot MSRP
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: what it actually costs.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: But that's fine, but this this is And tell me
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, because I don't think I'm crazy on this.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: When I go to a Vault tour and say I win,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I know long shot, y'all can laugh, but I'll target
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: all you next tour. I want something I can go
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: back to my LGS and say number one, Yeah, I
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: went to that sweet Vault Tour, Yeah, I did really good.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I have this item that says I'm special. I want
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: something that says I'm better than you and it allows
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: me to show it off.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: You get a one of one play Matt if you
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: win an event.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: One of one.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one champion play Matt Vegas made for
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: that yet. Okay, I'm not saying it's good. I'm just
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: saying it does exist. You get that, and then you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: get your trophy.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Unless you were in last year, you're not. You're not
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: You're not You're not carrying around your trophy unless you do.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe what choice you make, I guess, But like, why
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: can't I have special.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Three trophies and all three colors are your new keys?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: It is the way of the of the good.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Why can't I have special Vault Tour Ember, special Vault
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Tour this token? Were talking, Yeah, we have.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Definitely agreed here that we think tokens that represent where
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: they came from would be a.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Doesn't even it doesn't even have to be that special.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be that specialized. I could just
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: say it thrilling.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Tokens that's there so stamped with the individual location would
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: be something.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: Just colored, so and you have a little where you
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: got it from.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: But so they're doing this this Ember now, right, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: you're going on, maybe it'll be yes, maybe it'll be cool.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see. I'll let you know when
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: I get my order. So what if they gave you
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: amber with the names of the location? You know, one
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: side says Rochester, on the other side it says twenty five.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: So here's the deal. I'm trying to make this not
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: expensive for them. You start getting into customization and ship
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: like that, it gets pricey, right, so it doesn't have
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: to It doesn't even have to be like twenty five
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Rochester blah blah blah. You can just say vult Tour.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Super is that you can mass produce them, right, so
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: you can have a bunch.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Anything you're gonna bring. It's like we had the little
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: We already had that amber. We have the yellow, the blue,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: and the pink. That's what that amber already is.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: And you want to know what it still commands the price?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Will still still use it, right? Crazy?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Or it's our or it's our b amber. Like yeah,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: like when you've run out of your.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I've run out of my I've run out of my
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: pink disks to move back. Yes, yes, but that's.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Absolutely like those amber. Yeah, those amber are good and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: you use amber every game of key Forge. We've we've
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: touched on that several times that we think everybody I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: would enjoy that again.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: You know what they need they need to partner with
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: Jebson's and give us a special edition of the Forged Lord.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: That is what we need, Josh, I.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: Think they could get sponsored, right, Let's get.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Something flavored made with Key Lord.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, we are definitely gonna drink you know, a
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: buttery niffle at one of these events, hard like.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: Just lean into us, boozy ridiculous people, right, get like that.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: What I hear is that you want a barrel or
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: a special liqueur over?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, give me hey, what kind of bottle you like?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I like, yegermeister, here's the one seven five, yeager meister.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Congrats on your win today. Smack on your ass from Josh,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm happy as a.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Clam a wokie if you win a Vault tour, Yeah,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get Josh is gonna buy it? Okay, No, Actually,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: basically you can pick any one seven five you want,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: because that's already gonna be cheap because nothing good comes
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: in one seven five, and it may not be in
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: front of everybody. We will get Josh smacky on the ass.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: Perfect.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just want to have to buy him
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: a one seven five too, but let's.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: He may have to drink that before he goes out
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: and touches whatever.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: My dream for key for just to be sexually harassed
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: by a member of Ghost Galaxies.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: I mean it's good to have em. Yeah, aspirations, I
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: mean I heard Janet's easy, That's what I heard. Too.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: Wow, how did we get on this.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: We're talking about?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: And all I want to bottle of liquor, to be
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: sexually harassed. I just need somebody to scratch my beard
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: and call me pretty. That's all I want.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, And you turned her down. Well, back on you,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: you are a confusing man.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: That was a terrific We're.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: All excited for dec ascensions.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Josh, crack your beard. It's gonna be less terrifying.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, No, Kirkman, I need to be right now.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't know Sbuster girl, and you know
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: I'm that's another story for another day.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: We'll go through that.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: We have talked about this story another story.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Just I'm just saying, like, okay, that's strongly before and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: didn't try to get into my wallet. That's all I'm saying.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Are we Are we going for key chains next? Or
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: is that next week?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: You want to week?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: We do need to go into the new news real quick.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: From Game Found, they posted some pictures of somebody's hands
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: putting prophetic visions into boxes and stuff like that. We
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: didn't I don't know.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: They weren't really small.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Nope, nope, these are normal size stands. They are and
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: this person, this person is taller than the table.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: So you know, we don't updates.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did find the card that is coming out,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: and we saw the new special treatment, the Foresight treatment.
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  Speaker 5: Plaid o.
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  Speaker 3: God, you find out foresight for me to have one? Right?
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  Speaker 4: There are four skin decks, I will definitely.
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  Speaker 5: You mean the special border Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bought
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  Speaker 5: some extures of those.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I will take your worst one after
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  Speaker 3: you open them.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't sure, sure, sure, sure, I mean I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: To me somebody by that token they made.
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  Speaker 1: All that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, chances are, what are the chances
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  Speaker 5: that pretty good? This has taken a little extra time
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  Speaker 5: to get prothetic visions out there, and they haven't said anything.
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  Speaker 5: Well I guess they said something, but they definitely haven't
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  Speaker 5: showed us any pictures of crucible clash, So what's the
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  Speaker 5: chances They took a little extra time to try to
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  Speaker 5: balance them a little bit. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: Again, why are we trying?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean by balance? I'm like, make them
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  Speaker 3: all fit in a box. That's I don't say, do
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  Speaker 3: you anymore there?
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  Speaker 5: That's not very bad fit?
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  Speaker 4: Oh again, did we need crucible class or can we
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  Speaker 4: just focus on one.
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  Speaker 3: They make a balanced set, it won't be any good, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it'll be fine in the field and then.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway. So in this update, we got a chance to
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  Speaker 4: see some hands. You got a chance to see a
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: big bin of this purple sleeve. So what do you
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: think of purple boys? Yeah?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I like purple.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it looked good. But the car that
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: was released, okay, I think this is what you're getting at.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: There's the treatment. I thought the treatment looked nice. But again,
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  Speaker 4: once you have once you have one of them, you
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  Speaker 4: have all. But we're talking first of all, house enhancements
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  Speaker 4: are coming back because that was there, So that is
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: something that is relevant. Nice to be able to see.
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  Speaker 4: I think it is a fun game mechanic. I think
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: when the enhancement hits on the right card are knometer,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: they can really really be game warping. So I like that.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: But what card did you see brought back?
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  Speaker 2: Good, sir, Wookie in furnace is coming back.
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  Speaker 4: That's your common.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's a big deal, so big deal.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: Here's the question. Will we see another reduced card pool? Yes, yeah,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: we already know that. So notice with it in the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: common slots, what that could potentially mean because if you
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: have here a large amount four five of them, then
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: what cards are there to support it with recursion? Is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: it fast enough? Gr has just been there, but it'll
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: be interesting. I think amber Sky is also very very quick,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So if you loved it, so, I hope you love
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  Speaker 2: it now because it is coming back.
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  Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean we haven't really seen much of
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  Speaker 5: in Furnace because because it was an n FFG set
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: sets plural.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's just too slow. It's in a set that
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, even while it was good for the sets
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: that was in it's a phenomenal card, it's not fast enough.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: So if we reduce the card pool, what else is
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: going to be there for recursion?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: Hopefully not just saying could be? Could be?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: They do put it with the uh the house enhancement. Yes,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: and now you can see it even more great awesome.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: And uh, well but we this this is the first
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  Speaker 5: time I think, right that we knew for sure that
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: house enhancement cards are in set, right, not just legacy
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: like you can't haven't talk, but I assume this means
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: you can legit have there are cards in set that house.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: Enhanced dres Did you just take a break because es
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: while I was talking. I mean, my kids at school
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: don't pay attention to me anyway.
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  Speaker 5: But yep, okay I did.
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  Speaker 4: I am so in agreement with you. I love it.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: Hey, you walked, I tell you about the house enhancement? Sorry?
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  Speaker 4: The what? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear that they're coming back.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: I stepped away for just a second. What what it was? Literally?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I guess this house enhancement that was shown on
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: here and I know it was already in set, but
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: that that's a little wall.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: About the house.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: The what?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: M what?
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  Speaker 2: What did you say?
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  Speaker 5: There's what house enhancement? Oh my goodness? You know this
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: assumed in picture of the in firness, Like I don't
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: know if I've actually looked at him. This sumed like why,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: he's an ugly piece of shit. Look at him. He's like,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: thank you demon? What did you scule like in this forest?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: And he's like, like, is he's like sucking in that
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: energy or blowing it out?
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  Speaker 4: Or like what is he doing?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: He knows you'll have to ask him, but that's gonna
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: do it for us this week. Let us know what
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: you guys think of the new ascension policy down below. Also,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: let us know what you think about and at least
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: in furnace. Coming back next week, we're gonna go over
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: something pretty cool, pretty cool. I think it's cool. I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: think you will too. We'll talk more about it next week.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: I almost I almost started getting into it, and I
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: had to stop myself, stop yourself, myself. We are at time,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: and it's been a time. We've had a great time
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: with all you guys tonight. Thank you guys so much
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: for coming out and listening. If you're going to Rochester.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: Let us know.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Trans you're going to Rochester, right, that's right? Yeah? When
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: he when is Rochester? It's beginning of the month or
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: mid month.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: It's the end of the month, end of the month, okay,
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  Speaker 5: white Rochester twenty fifth, twenty six, twenty seventh, right, all right,
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  Speaker 5: all right.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: So of April we're going to Rochester.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Let us know.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: But with that being said, we will see you all
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: start next week.
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  Speaker 5: Happy fortune everyone, May the Forge be with you.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Wy magre Ca.
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  Speaker 5: Now em teaking side their game.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Nothing here remains the same.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: Each card holds a different key. It's what these masters
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: help me see in this corn serve.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Signs where reality shifts its face.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: Down at the corner where the ar coonstall, where.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: The story's and wisdom or the I can sell more action,
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  Speaker 1: slust in the power of the cars they deal, down
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  Speaker 1: at
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  Speaker 5: The corner where the archon swell