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Sharri | 6 August · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Thanks James Good Evening tonight. The rise of Islamic socialist
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Speaker 1: candidates who are terror sympathizers. Democrat Abdul Lsad today sees
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Speaker 1: victory in Michigan despite refusing to condemn comments that America
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Speaker 1: deserved nine eleven will bring you President Trump's reaction shortly,
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Speaker 1: And the ABC has finally apologized the gene Reinhart. Well,
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Speaker 1: there's a list of others still waiting for the public
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Speaker 1: broadcaster to utter that difficult word sorry. And Chris Bowen's
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Speaker 1: embarrassing three hundred and fifty thousand dollars travel bill with
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Speaker 1: a carbon footprint to.
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Speaker 2: Match Big Show.
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Speaker 1: A lot to talk about, but let's start with the ABC,
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Speaker 1: which has finally apologized to Gena Reinhart for its despicable clip.
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Speaker 1: But they didn't do this so willingly. They didn't do
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Speaker 1: it because it was the right thing to do. They
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Speaker 1: didn't do it because they acknowledged all their own that
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Speaker 1: it was vile content that shouldn't have aired on television.
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Speaker 1: They only apologized today because of mounting pressure from the
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Speaker 1: public and other media outlets like ours. People were horrified
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Speaker 1: that the ABC could publish and then stand by content
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Speaker 1: as vile as this.
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Speaker 3: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
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Speaker 3: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
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Speaker 3: stick right off Geena Reinhart's buttole stirring it around, nixing
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Speaker 3: her guts up nice and smooth, making her into one
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Speaker 3: big sausage roll.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 1: It stood by that for three and a half weeks.
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Speaker 1: So many commentators and politicians said this clearly never should
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Speaker 1: have aired. Even Albanesi government ministers were forced to concede
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Speaker 1: that it wasn't appropriate content, although a big lineup of
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Speaker 1: them insists did they hadn't actually seen the clip.
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Speaker 5: I haven't seen the clip that you're referring to.
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Speaker 6: It's not a show that I watch.
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Speaker 7: First, so I haven't seen this vision or this video,
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Speaker 7: so I want to make that clip.
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Speaker 1: Well, I haven't seen the skit, but I have read
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Speaker 1: reports of it, and there were more of them. Amazing,
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Speaker 1: isn't it how none of them bothered to pull up
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Speaker 1: the clip and watch it, even as it was making
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Speaker 1: headlines every single day. Well, now the ABC has apologized,
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Speaker 1: and here was Hugh Marx on ABC Radio this afternoon.
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Speaker 8: Everybody is entitled to the same treatment by the ABC,
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Speaker 8: and ultimately we felt the treatment of Miss Rehanhart was
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Speaker 8: not fair, and so we apologized and we've edited and
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Speaker 8: changed the program.
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Speaker 1: Well, now that he's managed to say sorry, there's quite
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Speaker 1: a list of other things the ABC could start apologizing for,
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Speaker 1: starting with the inaccurate report that added extra gunshots to
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Speaker 1: footage of Commando Heston Russell.
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Speaker 3: They've literally added extra gunshots.
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Speaker 9: That's phenomenal. So I fell off my chair when I
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Speaker 9: saw this.
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Speaker 1: Now, Heston Russell won his defamation case in court for
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Speaker 1: the ABC has never properly apologized.
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Speaker 10: Asking for me to apologize to mister Russell, I'm not
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Speaker 10: going to apologize to mister Russell.
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Speaker 1: I just checked with Heston Russell about this today and
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Speaker 1: he told me this. He said, no, the ABC never
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Speaker 1: apologized for their defamation or adding of gunshots to me.
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Speaker 2: He said.
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Speaker 1: The ABC skirts around it by claiming they apologized as
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Speaker 1: part of a statement that regretted editing errors. Then there's
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Speaker 1: the claim from Media Watch that my investigation into the
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Speaker 1: origins of COVID nineteen was a conspiracy.
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Speaker 7: The virus that causes COVID nineteen jumped from animals to
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Speaker 7: humans rather than escaping from my laboratory.
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Speaker 9: Virus experts say it must have missed that bulletin. Given
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Speaker 9: all those expert doubts, was this sensational treatment really justified
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Speaker 9: Batman exclusive? We think not. We also think Markson should
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Speaker 9: have told readers that almost every virus expert had dismissed
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Speaker 9: the LAMB escape theory.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Farmer Media Watch host Paul Barry ran multiple segments like that,
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Speaker 1: attacking me and my reporting and the theory that the
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Speaker 1: virus originated in gain of function research undertaken at the
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Speaker 1: Wuhan Institute of Virology. Well years on, the majority of
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Speaker 1: the intelligence community has now concluded that this is where
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Speaker 1: the virus is from. Yet no apology has been forthcoming
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Speaker 1: despite the ABC's patronizing, belittling, and defamatory.
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Speaker 2: Reporting against me.
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Speaker 1: Then there was its insensitive and tone deaf coverage of
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Speaker 1: King Charles's coronation, when the panel discussed colonization at the
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Speaker 1: expense of First Nations p people. The discussion was widely
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Speaker 1: viewed as inappropriate for the occasion. It led to a
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Speaker 1: flood of complaints, more than eighteen hundred in fact, but
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Speaker 1: the ombudsman found no impartiality breach and the ABC refused
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Speaker 1: to apologize. I mean, there are really endless examples of
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Speaker 1: its biased and often inaccurate coverage, particularly of Israel.
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Speaker 2: I mean, where to start.
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Speaker 1: Well, Victoria Teplitzky, who's the daughter of Holocaust survivor Semion Teplitzky,
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Speaker 1: who miraculously survived being shot in the Bondai massacre.
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Speaker 2: Well, Victoria courageously called.
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Speaker 1: Some of this out live on air to the ABC
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Speaker 1: in the wake of the terror attack. I've got to.
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Speaker 12: Say, will you cut out the biased reporting mainstream media?
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Speaker 12: We feel with yeah, will you? Will you cut it out?
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Speaker 12: Will you actually let us have a voice, because we
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Speaker 12: feel that part of the reason that the Jewish people
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Speaker 12: have experienced such a massive change in Australia towards US.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm assi AHSSI, well said Victoria.
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Speaker 1: But again, the ABC has never apologized to the Jewish community.
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Speaker 2: And the only reason.
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Speaker 1: That ABC is even apologizing now to Gina Reinhardt is
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Speaker 1: because it's clearly worried about a lawsuit, a lawsuit it
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Speaker 1: knows it wouldn't win because the content is so egregious,
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Speaker 1: so violent, so inappropriate that it would be simply indefensible.
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Speaker 1: I'll come back to that shortly with my panel. But
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Speaker 1: now there's a Muslim populist wave sweeping the United States,
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Speaker 1: and today a radical extremist, Abdul el Sayid claimed victory
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Speaker 1: in the Michigan Senate primary.
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Speaker 2: Now, normally we.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't speak about a state democratic primary in the US,
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Speaker 1: but here's why this is big news and a big story.
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Speaker 1: L Sayid is even more extreme than New York City
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Speaker 1: Mayor Zoran Mamdani. He called to defund the police in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty.
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Speaker 5: I believe that we do need to defund the police,
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Speaker 5: in so far as defunding the police is disinvesting in
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Speaker 5: the means of incarcerating someone or killing them on the street.
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Speaker 1: Well later, he tried to explain away those comments by
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Speaker 1: saying he just wanted to invest less in police and
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Speaker 1: more in schools, libraries, and social services. But in a
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Speaker 1: now deleted social media post, he wrote, the police have
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Speaker 1: become standing armies we deploy against our own people. Al
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Speaker 1: Said has also advocated abolishing immigration controls and he described
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's ICE as a paramilitary force of thugs and
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Speaker 1: he can pained along a radical influencer called Hassan Pika,
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Speaker 1: and Hassan Pike has said that America deserved nine to eleven.
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Speaker 1: But when else I eat was asked specifically to condemn
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Speaker 1: his friend's comments that America deserved nine to eleven.
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Speaker 2: This was on Fox News.
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Speaker 1: He just wouldn't do it.
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Speaker 5: Okay, But why do you want that, even that basic worldview,
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Speaker 5: because I don't believe that Donald Trump believes in the
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Speaker 5: same worldview that I just share with you.
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Speaker 9: But does care they need?
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Speaker 1: But asan piker does.
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Speaker 5: He's a lot more for giving people healthcare and not
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Speaker 5: fighting America deserved nine to eleven.
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Speaker 6: Trump has started them for the last three is.
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Speaker 9: Ridiculous at all. Ridiculous question because here's this game. This
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Speaker 9: is why big point the media.
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Speaker 5: This is why they hate the media, because you played
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Speaker 5: this gotcha game because he said something one time. You
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Speaker 5: think I automatically believe that now.
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Speaker 9: You campaign with body.
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Speaker 10: If you campaign with him, you're acting like you have
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Speaker 10: a social acquaintance.
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Speaker 1: So you debated him.
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Speaker 11: Clearly, you campaigned with him.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty shocking stuff. Al said also said that Israel
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Speaker 1: is just as evil as the barbaric terror group Hamas.
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Speaker 1: He said, Israeli government is evil doing there just as
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Speaker 1: evil as Hamas.
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Speaker 5: Yes, killing tens of thousands of people makes you pretty
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Speaker 5: damn evil. It's not how evil is this one versus
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Speaker 5: that one hamas evil Israeli government evil.
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Speaker 1: We could say both, and he's even excused terrorism. Look
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Speaker 1: at what he said after a terror attack at a
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Speaker 1: Michigan's synagogue in pre school conducted by a Lebanese man
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Speaker 1: whose brother was revealed by Israel to be a Hezbola
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Speaker 1: commander who'd been killed by the IDF.
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Speaker 5: Imagine there was no war in Iran. Imagine if there
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Speaker 5: were no air strikes in Lebanon. Imagine if his family
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Speaker 5: had never died. Imagine there was never an attack on
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Speaker 5: temple Israel. Violence always begets violence. Only peace can extinguish
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Speaker 5: that because hurt people, hurt people, hurt.
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Speaker 1: People, hurt people will that hurt person was the brother
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Speaker 1: of a hesbla terrorist, likely trying to avenge his death
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Speaker 1: by targeting Jews. That's excusing and defending terrorism, even at
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Speaker 1: a pre school in Michigan. Yet this hardcore radical extremist
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Speaker 1: has today won the Democratic primary for Michigan, a state
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Speaker 1: with a large number of Muslim voters, and his language
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Speaker 1: after he claimed victory was worrying to me. It sounded
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Speaker 1: like a threat to his Republican opponent, Mike Rogers, because at.
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Speaker 13: The time we're done.
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Speaker 5: You are not going to have safe quarter from people
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Speaker 5: holding you accountable to what you've done for them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going to have safe quarter. And then
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Speaker 1: his language was also violent when he was trying to
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Speaker 1: rev up his base, because have a look at what
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Speaker 1: he said in August last year at a Bernie Sanders rally.
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Speaker 14: We don't back.
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Speaker 1: Down with all due respective.
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Speaker 14: They go low, we don't go high.
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Speaker 5: We take them to the mud and choke them out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to those cheers.
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Speaker 1: And he was arguing that Democrats needed a more aggressive
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Speaker 1: approach to Trump and Maga, but its language just like
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Speaker 1: that that led to Charlie Kirk being violently murdered. Now,
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Speaker 1: mainstream Democrats surely can't in all good conscience vote for
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Speaker 1: candidates like el said. He was endorsed by all the
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Speaker 1: Democrats socialists, even though he claims he isn't one of them.
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Speaker 1: But the biggest story is there's now this civil war
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Speaker 1: playing out in the party between the establishment Democrats and
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Speaker 1: these new socialist communist candidates, and we're likely to see
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Speaker 1: the rise of even more populist Islamic candidates like el
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Speaker 1: Said and Mamdani. And one of the reasons is inequity
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Speaker 1: and the extreme wealth divide because the likes of Mamdani
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Speaker 1: believe the answer is government intervention, free groceries, free public
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Speaker 1: transpot opening the floodgates to government ligesse. But for capitalism,
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Speaker 1: for democracy, for freedom, and for Western values. This is
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Speaker 1: a very dangerous rise of terror supporting candidates who seem
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Speaker 1: to embrace radical Islamism and hold disdain for the United States.
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Speaker 1: And for more on this now, I'm joined by News
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Speaker 1: twenty four's Washington correspondent Jonathan Cursley. Jonathan, great to see
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Speaker 1: you again. Look, President Trump has now come out swinging
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Speaker 1: against al said, what did he say?
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Speaker 11: This was really quite extraordinary. He started off his day
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Speaker 11: twenty four hours ago by calling els Age's victory a
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Speaker 11: great win actually for Republicans. Seeing a move further to
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Speaker 11: the left for the Democratic Party is something that the
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Speaker 11: Republicans could will and really seize on, particularly in Michigan,
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Speaker 11: as you mentioned, a purple state, a swing state, an
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Speaker 11: area with a very high Muslim voting population, also an
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Speaker 11: area that Karmala Harris tried to win in twenty twenty
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Speaker 11: four but fell about one hundred thousand.
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Speaker 15: Votes or so short.
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Speaker 11: Interestingly, of the five states, that held primaries. There were
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Speaker 11: wins for both the left candidates, the progressive candidates, the
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Speaker 11: socialist candidates, and the more centrist candidates as well. But
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Speaker 11: President Trump, he had his sides very much firmly set
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Speaker 11: on Al Sae. He described him as somebody who hates Jews,
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Speaker 11: somebody who should not be listened to. This is some
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Speaker 11: of what he had to say while speaking at a
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Speaker 11: rally in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 3: Hater of Jews and a hater of Israel, hates Jews.
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Speaker 1: Somebody said, oh, that's a little strong.
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Speaker 3: No, he hates Jews and he hates Israel.
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Speaker 13: Filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment.
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Speaker 3: You lose your home is your apartment, and.
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Speaker 12: That's where the Communists will take us.
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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. When I watch Abdul, he's fully.
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Speaker 7: Shari.
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Speaker 11: Also, he did say when he was speaking in Detroit, Michigan,
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Speaker 11: less than twenty four hours or so ago now that
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Speaker 11: he wanted safety for Jewish people as much as he
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Speaker 11: wants safety for his own daughters. So he's pushing back
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Speaker 11: very much against the Republican attack lines. But those lines
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Speaker 11: you heard from President Trump there, they are going to
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Speaker 11: continue from now right up until November four, between until
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Speaker 11: those midterm primaries, those midterm elections. He very much firmly
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Speaker 11: has candidates, like l said, in his sights in Mandani.
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Speaker 11: While we heard Mandani very much sits in Elside's corner, doesn't.
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Speaker 1: He Yeah, he does. Indeed it to worry now, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, this is fascinating. The Senate
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Speaker 1: panel investigating Anthony Fauci, the disgraced doctor. Well, we know,
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Speaker 1: just last week they founder his personal diaries that happened
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Speaker 1: to be rich on government computers. But now they've obtained
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Speaker 1: somehow his phone or a copy of his phone. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this could potentially be even worse if there's text messages
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Speaker 1: or WhatsApps or notes or who knows what's on it. Well, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: we've got to hope that the Republican senators like Rand
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Speaker 1: Paul have his pin coat.
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Speaker 11: This is really quite extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: Ring ring, ring, ring.
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Speaker 11: Who's answering? Well, it's not Anthony Fauci, at least at
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Speaker 11: this stage. It is a copy of his phone that's
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Speaker 11: been handed over to a subcommittee essentially of the committee
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Speaker 11: that Ran Paul chairs. We heard this detail release yesterday
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Speaker 11: that yes, they've finally got a handle on the detail
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Speaker 11: that was on Anthony Fauci's phone. Now whether this is
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Speaker 11: it sounds like it is the data from it rather
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Speaker 11: than the actual phone itself. But look, let's wait to
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Speaker 11: see exactly what comes off it. And all of this
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Speaker 11: clearly comes a matter of hours before Ran Paul's committee
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Speaker 11: is going to vote on whether or not there was
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Speaker 11: rules breached by Anthony Fauci when he had last week
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Speaker 11: more than one hundred times he pleaded the fifth before
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Speaker 11: that hearing, refusing to testify, insisting it was.
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Speaker 2: His constitutional right too.
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Speaker 11: But yes, let's see what's in the phone data. Let's
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Speaker 11: see what material they've gotten. Then it may well be
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Speaker 11: that Anthony factually has some more questions to answer. But
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Speaker 11: right now, well, there's going to be plenty of attention
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Speaker 11: on that vote at rand Paul's committee today.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, Jonathan.
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Speaker 1: I want to turn to these reports that part of
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Speaker 1: a space X rocket crashed into the moon this afternoon,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we're told that the part of that
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Speaker 1: rocket is the size of a school bus and weighs
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Speaker 1: some four tons. Now this comes with this as the
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Speaker 1: SpaceX share price has also plummeted even further. I think
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Speaker 1: it's worst day perhaps since it's IPO.
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Speaker 11: It was it's fallen below and I mean for investors
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Speaker 11: it's down to one hundred dollars a share or so,
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Speaker 11: so you know, shed some tears, But it wasn't one
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Speaker 11: hundred and thirty five dollars at the IPO, and it
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Speaker 11: was altered in a loss of billions of dollars for
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Speaker 11: SpaceX coming just a matter of a couple of weeks
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Speaker 11: after Elon Musk lost eighteen billion dollars when Tesla dropped
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Speaker 11: fourteen percent as well. So look, poor old Elon's got
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Speaker 11: a little bit of a hole in his pocket at
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Speaker 11: this stage. I mean, if the rest of us were
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Speaker 11: losing eighteen billion dollars, or if countries were losing eighteen
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Speaker 11: billion dollars, you'd be certainly digging into the trenches to
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Speaker 11: try and fix that problem. But for Elon mask well,
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Speaker 11: it's just a small dent in somebody who's worth a trillion.
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Speaker 15: Dollars or so.
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Speaker 11: But yeah, SpaceX a fascinating time. The Falcon nine rocket
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Speaker 11: that what goes up must come down, I suppose they say,
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Speaker 11: but they don't say what goes up must crash into
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Speaker 11: the moon. And that's precisely what wound up happening. It
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Speaker 11: was a puff of dust that scientists said could reach
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Speaker 11: some and I want to say puff. They say it
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Speaker 11: could go seventy five kilometers in the air.
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Speaker 1: What's that?
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Speaker 11: Eight nine times the height of Mount Everest. So quite something,
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Speaker 11: but yeah, a bit of moondust going up, a bit
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Speaker 11: of Tesla SHP price going down.
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Speaker 1: No, indeed, and then there was also, of course his
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Speaker 1: financial results as well. I don't know if we can
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Speaker 1: cover this quickly, but I did really quickly. I want
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Speaker 1: to get to this deal that Iran has reportedly reached
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Speaker 1: with Oman to reopen the straight up hole moves Jonathan.
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Speaker 1: This really worries me because the agreement would let Tehran
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Speaker 1: have control over ships entering the shipping route, and I
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Speaker 1: think then Oman would control the.
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Speaker 2: Other side of it.
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Speaker 1: Now Iran can't have any control of this. It has
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Speaker 1: to return to international waters.
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Speaker 11: Well, you would have thought that's the position that the United
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Speaker 11: States would hold and would want. Yes, under the conditions
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Speaker 11: of this proposal that has been finalized, was expected there
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Speaker 11: could be an announcement a matter of hours or so,
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Speaker 11: Iran will get control over as you mentioned, ships going
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Speaker 11: into the Gulf through the straight of Houll moves and
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Speaker 11: Oman the other way. Now, exactly as you say, the
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Speaker 11: idea of international waterways under international law means that there's
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Speaker 11: a free right to shipping. This is something the Australian
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Speaker 11: governor has long talked about, particularly when it comes to
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Speaker 11: waters around Taiwan and the South China Sea and the
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Speaker 11: right to travel freely and navigate freely in those areas.
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Speaker 11: President Trump has given Iran some days now to try
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Speaker 11: and get this deal done. He stopped strikes, he said
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Speaker 11: would have been the largest since World War Two. But
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Speaker 11: it would be very, very difficult to see why the
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Speaker 11: United States would allow a position that could hand Iran
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Speaker 11: control of at least part of a shipping laneway that
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Speaker 11: could allow them to then also recoup billions of dollars
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Speaker 11: in some way, shape or form. It would only allow
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Speaker 11: them to use that money to restart rebuild the nuclear
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Speaker 11: program that IRGC figures say they have long been working towards.
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Speaker 1: You get the sense that the US has lost control
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Speaker 1: of this whole process. Jonathan Cursley, thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for joining us early in the morning, and Washington appreciate
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Speaker 1: it so greatly. Thank you well. The non publication order
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Speaker 1: preventing the media from reporting evidence on the explosive Alan
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Speaker 1: Jones trial was lifted this afternoon. I can now report
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Speaker 1: that the former athlete known as Jay, who's been under
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Speaker 1: cross examination this week, has been accused by Jones's lawyers
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Speaker 1: of making his claims for financial reasons.
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Speaker 16: Here's Channel nine barrister Gabriel Basheer and in her sights,
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Speaker 16: his accuser known as complainant Jay, a champion athlete Jones
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Speaker 16: met as a teenager.
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Speaker 14: You decided you were going to fabricate claims mister Jones
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Speaker 14: touched you as a teen No, I wasn't going to
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Speaker 14: fabricate anything. The defense took aim at Jay's credibility. In
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Speaker 14: twenty twenty two, then a police officer, he pleaded guilty
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Speaker 14: in court to assault after a fight in a pub.
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Speaker 14: Two years later, he was sacked from the force. You
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Speaker 14: were struggling, You were responsible for child support and rent,
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Speaker 14: and had a gambling issue. I don't believe so. That
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Speaker 14: same year, twenty twenty four, two days after Alan Jones
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Speaker 14: was arrested for indecent assault, Jay went to the police
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Speaker 14: saying he was a victim of the broadcaster's alleged behavior
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Speaker 14: when he was a teenager. I suggest you saw his
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Speaker 14: arrest as a life changing opportunity. You understand, don't you.
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Speaker 14: You could sue mister Jones on the basis of your claims.
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Speaker 14: I don't want money or reward. I will not sue
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Speaker 14: the defendant. I want justice and.
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Speaker 1: Alan Jones denies all allegations met against him. Well, the
21:30
Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph has today dubbed Chris Bowen Chris Bowing after
21:35
Speaker 1: revelations he charged taxpayers three hundred and forty five thousand
21:39
Speaker 1: dollars for travel costs over the last financial year. Now,
21:43
Speaker 1: this is three and a half times the average yearly
21:46
Speaker 1: salary in Australia. It's enough for a house deposit, or
21:50
Speaker 1: even enough to buy a small suburban apartment. And Chris
21:54
Speaker 1: Bowen spent that much on travel alone, spooking his net
21:59
Speaker 1: zero policy. Joining me now to discuss former New South
22:02
Speaker 1: Wales police Minister David Elliott and former Senator Holly Hughes.
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Speaker 1: Great to see you both.
22:08
Speaker 2: Now, David, this is.
22:09
Speaker 1: Not just a massive travel bill, as I said, but
22:12
Speaker 1: also got to be a huge carbon footprint that comes
22:15
Speaker 1: with something like that.
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Speaker 6: Well, you've got to love the hypocrisy, but you've also
22:18
Speaker 6: got to love benningng which's headlines and that was one
22:20
Speaker 6: of the great ones. I think we've got to find
22:23
Speaker 6: out exactly what Chris Bowen was doing, who justified the trip,
22:28
Speaker 6: who approved it, because from my experience, the Prime Minister's
22:31
Speaker 6: got to approve this sort of travel. He can't just
22:34
Speaker 6: go about and decide that he wants to go from
22:37
Speaker 6: one international engagement to another. So I think it's time
22:40
Speaker 6: we asked the Prime Minister exactly what case was put forward.
22:43
Speaker 1: But it is.
22:44
Speaker 6: Ironic that the guy that's telling us to stop burning
22:47
Speaker 6: carbons is out there burning carbons more than anybody, and
22:52
Speaker 6: the hypocrisy of this act is really reigning supreme.
22:56
Speaker 1: No, it really is. The hypocrisy is just hard to
22:59
Speaker 1: swa but Holly, one of those trips to Chile and Brazil,
23:05
Speaker 1: we're told cost over seventy nine thousand dollars just for
23:08
Speaker 1: eleven days. That's extraordinary. I mean that is someone's average
23:14
Speaker 1: wage for an entire year.
23:16
Speaker 7: It's extraordinary. I mean, you've got to hope the hotel
23:19
Speaker 7: was pretty nice. I mean, honestly, that is a huge
23:22
Speaker 7: amount of money to be spending. When this guy gives
23:25
Speaker 7: a speech this week about his portfolio and what he's
23:29
Speaker 7: doing to make sure that Australia is the so savior
23:33
Speaker 7: of the world when it comes to getting rid of
23:36
Speaker 7: carbon emissions. He couldn't even mention the words net zero
23:39
Speaker 7: in his speech, which is fundamentally their platform policy. And
23:45
Speaker 7: I think that just tells you that their internal polling
23:48
Speaker 7: and Australians overwhelmingly have had enough of this net zero rubbish.
23:52
Speaker 7: They can see what's happening to their power bills. Everything
23:56
Speaker 7: is more expensive because energy is more expensive, and this
24:00
Speaker 7: guy is doing everything he can to run our country
24:03
Speaker 7: into the ground. And don't even start me if this
24:06
Speaker 7: guy evercame to rule and region in all Australia, because
24:09
Speaker 7: what they're doing with renewable energy zones across the country
24:12
Speaker 7: and to farmers, Honestly, you know, I don't think he'd
24:16
Speaker 7: be safe.
24:18
Speaker 1: And I'm going to come back to the topic of
24:20
Speaker 1: the solar panels the latest announcement with an expert a
24:23
Speaker 1: bit later, but I want to turn now to this
24:25
Speaker 1: apology that I mentioned at the start of the show
24:27
Speaker 1: from the ABC to Gina Rene Hart. Now, David, what
24:32
Speaker 1: worries me about this is that the ABC's own umbardsman
24:35
Speaker 1: cleared this segment. They said, oh, it's satire, it's perfectly fine.
24:39
Speaker 6: Well, the ABC really criticizes the police where they investigate themselves,
24:45
Speaker 6: but apparently it's okay for the ABC to investigate themselves.
24:49
Speaker 6: And quite clearly, sorry seems to be the hardest word
24:52
Speaker 6: to borrow a phrase.
24:54
Speaker 1: Did the ABC give you a hard time when you're
24:56
Speaker 1: a police minister?
24:57
Speaker 6: Oh, they were appalling. I'm still waiting for the ABC
25:00
Speaker 6: to give us the evidence they claimed that four corners
25:03
Speaker 6: collected regarding the lunar part fire. Because they called us
25:08
Speaker 6: to reopen the investigation and we said to them, can
25:10
Speaker 6: you please give us the evidence that you've got over
25:14
Speaker 6: the course of your your researching and we're still waiting
25:19
Speaker 6: for it.
25:19
Speaker 1: That whole report collapsed.
25:21
Speaker 6: The whole report collapsed and it was and it was
25:23
Speaker 6: found to be wanting. But they claimed that the police
25:26
Speaker 6: force were involved in some sort of cover and apparently
25:29
Speaker 6: I was accused of covering up the reputation of never ran.
25:32
Speaker 6: Now why a member of Parliament on the liberal side
25:35
Speaker 6: would want to cover up the reputation that never ran
25:37
Speaker 6: it is beyond me. But they wanted us to reopen
25:40
Speaker 6: the investigation. We said, we will do that, but you've
25:44
Speaker 6: got to have new evidence to justify that. And they
25:46
Speaker 6: refused to hand over any of their.
25:48
Speaker 1: Un editor When I asked you that question whether you'd
25:50
Speaker 1: had run in I genuinely didn't remember that whole saga.
25:52
Speaker 1: But it just shows you can ask anyone in there
25:54
Speaker 1: and they've got to run in, Holly. They only apologized.
25:59
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm right? They only apologize because they
26:01
Speaker 1: were worried about a lawsuit from Gina Reinhardt.
26:04
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And I won't share with you, will run out
26:06
Speaker 7: of time my ABC stories and how much it costs
26:09
Speaker 7: in defamation fees, but you know it is time to
26:13
Speaker 7: defund this organization. Everyone watching US tonight pays a subscription
26:18
Speaker 7: to either News twenty four or to Foxtel to watch
26:21
Speaker 7: US tonight, because where the people they want to hear from.
26:24
Speaker 7: You're the commentators that they want to hear what's happening
26:27
Speaker 7: in the world from. Yet all of us are forced
26:30
Speaker 7: to pay for this rubbish from the ADC. If you
26:33
Speaker 7: want to watch this sort of it's not satire. Clark
26:36
Speaker 7: and Daor was satire and that was brilliant. This is
26:38
Speaker 7: not satire. This is just filth and vile, and if
26:42
Speaker 7: you want to watch that, then you should have the
26:44
Speaker 7: privilege to pay for it like everyone else does with
26:46
Speaker 7: their subscription services, not tax every Australian for it. I
26:51
Speaker 7: think they apologized in a way that is, if you
26:54
Speaker 7: were offended where sorry, It's an apology without being an apology.
26:58
Speaker 7: And they knew that this is heart was more than
27:01
Speaker 7: capable of suing them all the way through. And I'm
27:03
Speaker 7: not convinced she shouldn't do it anyway.
27:06
Speaker 1: Well, you never know, she might. Who knows. She's probably
27:10
Speaker 1: sick of seeing that clip played ten million times a
27:12
Speaker 1: day on every news channel, certainly to avoid I know,
27:17
Speaker 1: I know they have News twenty four on all over Parliament.
27:21
Speaker 1: How could they have missed it? I don't believe it. Look,
27:24
Speaker 1: I want to turn to the Eyekak hearings. The corruption
27:26
Speaker 1: watchdog in New South Wales has been examining allegations of
27:30
Speaker 1: branch stacking and illegal donations involving the New South Wales
27:34
Speaker 1: Liberal Party. Now, David Elliott, your name has been mentioned
27:37
Speaker 1: a lot, not in a bad way, I should I
27:40
Speaker 1: should say.
27:41
Speaker 2: There's also been this suggestion.
27:43
Speaker 1: That Angus Taylor might have made a donation to this
27:45
Speaker 1: right wing group called the Reformers. You're of course in
27:48
Speaker 1: a different faction. You're in the center right faction. This
27:51
Speaker 1: is a right wing group now. So he's denied that
27:54
Speaker 1: any payment was made. I think that's the form of
27:57
Speaker 1: words he used, no payment was made something like that.
28:01
Speaker 1: Do you think Aungus Taylor is going to escape unscathed
28:04
Speaker 1: from the hearings or are you still expecting some big
28:07
Speaker 1: revelation to come.
28:08
Speaker 6: No, I don't think he's going to be unscathed. But
28:10
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody's going to in the Liberal Party
28:12
Speaker 6: is going to be unscathed. I think I think there's
28:14
Speaker 6: there's enough there for every child to win a prize.
28:17
Speaker 6: And I mean what Angus has said is that I
28:19
Speaker 6: think he didn't make a donation to the reform But
28:23
Speaker 6: then Ray Hadley's called him out overlying regarding his relationship
28:27
Speaker 6: with one of the with with one of the accused
28:30
Speaker 6: when one of those that are being investigated in the
28:33
Speaker 6: in the in the shape of Jeremy Greenwood, who I
28:36
Speaker 6: think he has been questioned next week. So I think
28:39
Speaker 6: the whole party is going to be bruised by this.
28:42
Speaker 6: We obviously there was a transaction between two of the
28:45
Speaker 6: factions over over making sure that a certain certain branches
28:51
Speaker 6: could be used to manipulate activities so far up until
28:55
Speaker 6: this afternoon. My main concern so far as the reputation
28:59
Speaker 6: and including Angus Taylor's involvement, was not that there was
29:04
Speaker 6: branch stacking, but there was branch stacking that was paid
29:06
Speaker 6: for by prohibited donors who now appear to be criminals.
29:10
Speaker 6: That was a great concern to me. But this afternoon,
29:13
Speaker 6: of course, when we heard John Claude Perrete have to
29:17
Speaker 6: respond to three of those telephone calls that had been
29:21
Speaker 6: that had clearly been obviously monitored by IKAK, I don't think.
29:25
Speaker 1: We were watching this as closely as yeah, well this
29:27
Speaker 1: is the premier's brother having to answer the question former
29:30
Speaker 1: premier's brother having to answer questions this afternoon. But I
29:32
Speaker 1: think it's a bit too much detail for everyone because
29:34
Speaker 1: we haven't been following it, which is very very what
29:38
Speaker 1: I haven't. We're not in that we're not glued to it.
29:40
Speaker 1: I mean I've been glued to the Royal Commission to
29:42
Speaker 1: add his seventies as well, glue something. But wholly very
29:46
Speaker 1: quickly your response to this, I mean IKAK has already
29:48
Speaker 1: taken out Gladysbury, Jicklian over the boyfriend barrio'farrell over a
29:54
Speaker 1: bottle of grains. You know, two good premiers, and Angus
29:58
Speaker 1: Taylor has denied any wrongdo doing. He didn't make a payment.
30:01
Speaker 1: But we know how AYKAC works. They can catch someone
30:04
Speaker 1: out on misleading evidence. It doesn't even have to be
30:06
Speaker 1: anything close to corruption. I mean, is there a possibility
30:09
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party could be looking for Andrew Hasty or
30:13
Speaker 1: Tim Wilson or another leader?
30:14
Speaker 7: Now, well, what I can say, and David is a
30:17
Speaker 7: fellow traveler with me from the center right faction. So clearly, David,
30:21
Speaker 7: we were on the wrong horse because we were clearly
30:24
Speaker 7: the magui of faction trying to survive with a paper
30:26
Speaker 7: clip and a rubber band, whilst these guys were incredibly
30:29
Speaker 7: well funded doing everything they could to destroy us. But
30:34
Speaker 7: I can tell you what I have found fascinating is
30:37
Speaker 7: it's definitely a different type as a Catholicism that I
30:40
Speaker 7: grew up with. And clearly the commandments need a bit
30:44
Speaker 7: of a refresher at Opah's Day colleges, because thou shalt
30:48
Speaker 7: not give false testimony seems to have skipped through when
30:51
Speaker 7: you've been watching some of these days, and David, I'm
30:54
Speaker 7: with you. I've been watching very very closely not sure
30:57
Speaker 7: what I'm going to do with myself tomorrow. Now we're
30:59
Speaker 7: not back to Monday.
31:00
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're working out, Holly. And there's been no
31:02
Speaker 1: findings against anyone at this point in time. David Elliott,
31:06
Speaker 1: Holly Hughes, thank you so much. Still to come is
31:10
Speaker 1: wealth inequality leading to the rise.
31:12
Speaker 2: Of populist parties?
31:13
Speaker 1: Plus Albanese's own former economic advisor has unleashed on his
31:18
Speaker 1: tax changes. Michael Stutchbury would join me to discuss after
31:21
Speaker 1: the break.
31:26
Speaker 2: Well.
31:26
Speaker 1: Anthony Albanese's former economics advisor, has raked Labour's tax changes
31:30
Speaker 1: over the calls, revealing he had a visceral reaction to
31:34
Speaker 1: the government. Spin here's Alex Sanchez.
31:39
Speaker 10: There is that sort of viewing Labor that the rich
31:46
Speaker 10: should pay more tax, and I remained to this day
31:50
Speaker 10: unsatisfied by it. I just think that it's a very
31:53
Speaker 10: uncompetitive income tax. The fragility of the budget circumstances and
32:00
Speaker 10: basically the creeping government has made them scramble for these
32:05
Speaker 10: Revenue has got to come from somewhere.
32:07
Speaker 1: And he was speaking there to the Center for Independent
32:10
Speaker 1: Studies executive Director Farmer, editor in chief of The finn Review,
32:13
Speaker 1: Michael Stutchbury and Michael Jones. Mean, now, Michael, good to
32:15
Speaker 1: see you again.
32:16
Speaker 13: See Shari, thank you.
32:17
Speaker 1: Now, Look, it's Alex Sanchez has been a labor member
32:21
Speaker 1: for decades. Really, so what does it say about the
32:25
Speaker 1: nature of the Albanese government's economic reform if you can
32:29
Speaker 1: call it that that he's speaking so publicly, I call
32:33
Speaker 1: Alex Sanchez part of the Hawk Keating lost labor tribe,
32:37
Speaker 1: you know, the Labor Party under Hawk and Keating in
32:40
Speaker 1: the eighties and into the nineties instituted really an economic
32:44
Speaker 1: revolution in Australia.
32:45
Speaker 13: Pro market floated the dollar, deregulated the financial sector, brought
32:49
Speaker 13: down the import tariff wall, privatized government businesses.
32:53
Speaker 1: And so forth.
32:53
Speaker 13: Cut income tax rates, particularly the top rate of income
32:56
Speaker 13: texts from as high as sixty percent down to the
33:00
Speaker 13: down to forty nine percent, cut the company tax rate.
33:03
Speaker 13: But we don't see any of this now. And Alex
33:05
Speaker 13: Sanchez's point, as being a former advisor to economic to
33:08
Speaker 13: Anthony Albernize and he wanted to get some of that
33:11
Speaker 13: into this government, is that labor seems to have just
33:14
Speaker 13: lost the whole idea that markets and getting government out
33:18
Speaker 13: of the way is the best way to promote economic
33:21
Speaker 13: growth that we did see before, and we really may
33:24
Speaker 13: produce the prosperous Australia we see today out of that.
33:27
Speaker 13: Now it's really more about redistribution, bigger government, higher taxes,
33:32
Speaker 13: more regulation.
33:33
Speaker 1: I mean aspiration has also been key to this because
33:37
Speaker 1: you know, under the Hulk Keyting era, I mean, aspiration
33:40
Speaker 1: was a wholemark of labor, they represented the working class.
33:44
Speaker 1: But now with especially with the removal of negative gearing
33:47
Speaker 1: and you know, capital gains, tax changes, in a sense,
33:51
Speaker 1: it's not helping their first home buyers and the younger generation,
33:56
Speaker 1: it's taking away those benefits that their baby boomer.
33:59
Speaker 13: Pairent's hat Alexis Sanchez's alex Sanchez's point would be intergenerational
34:05
Speaker 13: equity and fairness really relies on getting the economy growing again,
34:09
Speaker 13: and to do that you've got to get incentives and
34:12
Speaker 13: aspiration and reward people who want to have a go.
34:15
Speaker 13: So he revealed at the Center of Independent Studies this
34:19
Speaker 13: week that while he was an economic advisor to Anthony
34:22
Speaker 13: Alberezi in government, he pushed to cut the top marginal
34:26
Speaker 13: tax rate from forty seven percent including the medicare levy,
34:29
Speaker 13: down to something with a three in front of him.
34:31
Speaker 1: Wow.
34:32
Speaker 13: Now the thing is, that's what Paul Keating has wanted
34:34
Speaker 13: to do, That's what Bill Kelti, the former ACTU secretaries,
34:38
Speaker 13: wants to do. That's what Craig Emerson, form Labor Minister
34:41
Speaker 13: and previous government wants to do. But there's no appetite
34:45
Speaker 13: whatsoever in this current government to do that. Instead, first
34:48
Speaker 13: they put back in a thirty seven percent tax rate
34:52
Speaker 13: that the previous government took out as part of the
34:55
Speaker 13: Stage three tax cut, and that means that people earning
34:58
Speaker 13: over one hundred and thirty five one thousand dollars, you know,
35:01
Speaker 13: a good you know, a middle class worker earning over
35:04
Speaker 13: time would earn, so taxing aspiration more like that. And
35:08
Speaker 13: then is brought in and you're referring to this increase
35:11
Speaker 13: in the tax on capital capital gains and wanting to
35:14
Speaker 13: hit hit basically investments and savings. And that's really not
35:18
Speaker 13: a growth policy.
35:20
Speaker 1: I mean the whole tax system, this welfare system, the
35:24
Speaker 1: increasing government ligeess.
35:25
Speaker 2: I mean this is really on.
35:27
Speaker 1: The shoulders of the hard working middle class. I mean
35:31
Speaker 1: to be in the tops top tax bracket in Australia,
35:34
Speaker 1: you don't have to be particularly.
35:36
Speaker 13: Rich, no, Australia's got a very high top marginal tax
35:39
Speaker 13: rate forty seven percent cuts in at quite a low
35:42
Speaker 13: level multiple of average weekly earnings, if you like, at
35:45
Speaker 13: one hundred and ninety thousand dollars. So that's not super
35:48
Speaker 13: rich by any means in Australia. And people on that
35:51
Speaker 13: tax bracket do already pay the pay a very disproportionate
35:56
Speaker 13: amount of taxes, and they're already contributing. If you keep
35:59
Speaker 13: on taxing that, it's a re distribution agenda. Rather than
36:03
Speaker 13: growing the pie, they're trying to tax the rich. Of course,
36:07
Speaker 13: and Anthony Albanezi referred to entrenched privilege the other day,
36:12
Speaker 13: and of course Albow back in the day opposed the
36:14
Speaker 13: whole hawk keening agenda in the nineteen eighties, and so
36:18
Speaker 13: he's against that. So he's and we're seeing more of
36:21
Speaker 13: this around the place.
36:22
Speaker 1: I've read some of those speeches by Albanesi at the
36:26
Speaker 1: Labor conferences back in the day, and it's extraordinary. I mean,
36:31
Speaker 1: he thinks he's against the accumulation of wealth. He was
36:36
Speaker 1: against the transfer of wealth when people pass away. You know,
36:40
Speaker 1: he wanted there to be inheritance taxes, death tax. It's
36:42
Speaker 1: unbelievable and that ideology. Fine, he's abandoned those the more
36:47
Speaker 1: controversial policies, but that ideology still underpins.
36:50
Speaker 13: Who he is and I think you see it now
36:53
Speaker 13: that it's coming out of the Prime Minister's mouth. The
36:55
Speaker 13: other day in a set speech, he attacked what he
36:57
Speaker 13: called economic rationalism and he connected it with Robert Ronald
37:02
Speaker 13: Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. But economic rationalism wasn't a term
37:06
Speaker 13: that was used for them. Economic rationalism was the term
37:09
Speaker 13: used for the hawk keeping labor agenda. So in a
37:12
Speaker 13: way he's openly attacking that agenda.
37:16
Speaker 1: Which is what Labour should be most proud of.
37:18
Speaker 13: Yes, Labour should be should be a party of growth,
37:21
Speaker 13: growing the pie, and that provides more resources and more
37:25
Speaker 13: money to basically look after the disadvantaged. You won't look
37:28
Speaker 13: after the disadvantage if you've got a stagnant economy, which
37:31
Speaker 13: we've got now can hardly grow at all in per
37:33
Speaker 13: capita terms, productivity is flat. You're just not getting you're
37:37
Speaker 13: not growing the pie.
37:38
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this intersection between the economic situation globally
37:44
Speaker 1: and politics, and particularly you know this increasing wealth divide
37:49
Speaker 1: and how tough people are finding it with rising inflation
37:52
Speaker 1: with the cost of living crisis that in various forms
37:54
Speaker 1: has been around for a few years now, although it
37:56
Speaker 1: is getting worse. Do you think this is leading to
37:59
Speaker 1: the rise of pop billless candidates like Pauline Hansen and
38:03
Speaker 1: reform on the one side, and then you know the
38:06
Speaker 1: Islamic candidates like ma'm Dani who just want to give
38:09
Speaker 1: away free groceries, free transport on the other side.
38:13
Speaker 13: Yeah, definitely, I think you're seeing a great disruption of politics.
38:16
Speaker 13: Politics for one hundred years was about labor versus capital, business,
38:20
Speaker 13: business type policies, and then worker type policies. Now it's
38:24
Speaker 13: flipped to being more about identity and culture, and it's
38:27
Speaker 13: really fragmenting, becoming more tribal. You can see on the
38:32
Speaker 13: rights you're getting the rise of the populist movements, which
38:35
Speaker 13: people said wouldn't happen in Australia. It's happened in the
38:37
Speaker 13: UK with with Nigel Fraj, It's happened with Trump taking
38:43
Speaker 13: over the Republican Party and the meg of movement there.
38:45
Speaker 13: It's happened in Italy, it's happened in France that sort
38:48
Speaker 13: of happened. And then on the left center left of politics,
38:51
Speaker 13: it's starting to see the politics drift out to the left,
38:54
Speaker 13: particularly with a so called as you mentioned, the Democratic
38:57
Speaker 13: Socialists in the US starting to talk out really quite radical.
39:01
Speaker 1: Agendas, communist agendas type.
39:03
Speaker 13: Thing, and you're seeing that with Andy Burnham a bit
39:06
Speaker 13: in the UK. You can see the Labor Party in
39:08
Speaker 13: the UK wants to move out that way. So we're
39:10
Speaker 13: getting politics fragmenting. So that means it's harder to get
39:14
Speaker 13: center ground policies to do the sort of things that
39:17
Speaker 13: really most people want.
39:19
Speaker 1: Fulfilling self fulfilling prophecy. You need the center policies to
39:23
Speaker 1: fix the economy, but it's not happening. All right, Great
39:26
Speaker 1: to see you as always, Stutch, Thank you so much.
39:28
Speaker 1: Thanks Sharry. Still to come. The government's solar scheme has
39:32
Speaker 1: been slammed for failing to meet energy demands.
39:35
Speaker 2: That's after the break.
39:40
Speaker 1: Well last night on the show, we had two guests
39:42
Speaker 1: applaud in Chris Bowen solar scheme. But the Daily Telegraph
39:46
Speaker 1: editorial today points out that the taxpayer will foot the
39:48
Speaker 1: bill for this, that most solar panels come from China,
39:51
Speaker 1: so this siphons Australian taxpayer money to a foreign power,
39:55
Speaker 1: and that we don't know the final cost, and it
39:58
Speaker 1: asks why this would be any deal from Snowy Hydro
40:01
Speaker 1: two point zero all Chris Bowen's home battery scheme where
40:04
Speaker 1: the budget was overblown and cost billions, And meanwhile Bowen's
40:09
Speaker 1: promised that electricity bills will be two seventy five cheaper
40:12
Speaker 1: is nothing but a distant and forgotten memory. He doesn't
40:16
Speaker 1: like to talk about.
40:17
Speaker 11: Well.
40:17
Speaker 1: Australian for Affordable Energy spokesperson Zoe Hilton joins me to discuss. Now, Zoe,
40:23
Speaker 1: what is your view of this solar panel policy that
40:25
Speaker 1: Chris bones announced.
40:27
Speaker 17: So my view is it is a complete waste of time.
40:29
Speaker 17: We should not be trying to subsidize solar because that
40:33
Speaker 17: is not what our electricity system needs. And the reason
40:35
Speaker 17: we can tell that is when we look at the
40:37
Speaker 17: capture prices for various energy technologies and what that means
40:42
Speaker 17: is the price that the market is willing to pay,
40:45
Speaker 17: and the price that the market is willing to pay
40:46
Speaker 17: for wind and solar has been declining for years since
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Speaker 17: twenty twenty one, which is when we hit around twenty
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Speaker 17: percent wind solar in our grit and that's when we
40:55
Speaker 17: really reached the end of the renewable energy honeymoon. And
40:57
Speaker 17: what that means is it's fine to build in a
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Speaker 17: wind and solar. At the start, things don't get too expensive.
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Speaker 17: But as soon as you go above about twenty percent,
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Speaker 17: costs start to rise because all of a sudden, you
41:07
Speaker 17: have too much energy at certain times of the day,
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Speaker 17: like at midday when the sun is shining, and you
41:12
Speaker 17: don't have enough energy at other times, like in the
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Speaker 17: evening when there's no sun and there's no wind, and
41:17
Speaker 17: so then you need lots of batteries, you need lots
41:18
Speaker 17: of transmission, you need backup generations still there ready to
41:22
Speaker 17: jump in to save the day. And that is why
41:24
Speaker 17: we've seen the price that the market is willing to
41:26
Speaker 17: pay for gas has risen dramatically in the last few years.
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Speaker 17: It's gone to two hundred to three hundred percent of
41:32
Speaker 17: the average price, the average capture price in the market.
41:34
Speaker 17: So clearly the market is screaming at investors stop building
41:38
Speaker 17: intermittent power sources and build dispatchable, reliable, twenty four to
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Speaker 17: seven power. But the government has their ideological targets and
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Speaker 17: so they're going, no, we're not gonna listen to what
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Speaker 17: the market's gonna say.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to listen to what.
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Speaker 17: Economics says or engineering. We're just going to say we're
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Speaker 17: going to put more and more subsidies into the system
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Speaker 17: and hope for the best. And it's just not a
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Speaker 17: viable plan.
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Speaker 1: And the blowout's extraordinary. It never goes according to budget exactly.
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Speaker 17: And this is actually this is a really sneaky way
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Speaker 17: in some ways to make Australians pay more to subsidize
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Speaker 17: these solar systems because it's going into our bills, Like
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Speaker 17: this is a scheme that we are all paying. Every
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Speaker 17: time we pay our bill, we have to pay these subsidies.
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Speaker 17: And I just think that is not the way.
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Speaker 2: To do it.
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Speaker 17: I think, honestly, like every bill should have very clear
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Speaker 17: this is how much you are paying to other households
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Speaker 17: that have solar and people and yeah, can.
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Speaker 1: You imagine exactly exactly.
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Speaker 17: And that's why it's just no one understands like this
42:39
Speaker 17: system and how much we're actually paying.
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Speaker 1: And that is why.
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Speaker 17: People feel like, oh, yes, this is a great thing,
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Speaker 17: like yeay, we want businesses, we want homes to put
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Speaker 17: solar on their rooms. It sounds really good until you
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Speaker 17: realize the price tag.
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Speaker 1: So the takeup has been quite high, hasn't it though?
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Speaker 1: A lot of people getting solar panels in their rooms.
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Speaker 1: But it is your argument that it just shouldn't be
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Speaker 1: subsidized by the government.
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Speaker 17: So when you look at the data, you can see
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Speaker 17: that the take up has been highest when the subsidies
43:05
Speaker 17: were the highest. And this is from two angles. It's
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Speaker 17: from both the direct subsidies and it's also from the
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Speaker 17: cross subsidies in the system. And what that means is
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Speaker 17: when people put riftop solar on the top of their
43:16
Speaker 17: homes or their businesses, they are able to reduce the
43:20
Speaker 17: amount of network charges that they pay because network charges
43:24
Speaker 17: are mostly based on the percular what hour cost that
43:27
Speaker 17: they're paying to their retailer, not on the fixed daily
43:29
Speaker 17: supply charge. So basically they're reducing usage, they're reducing their
43:33
Speaker 17: percure what hour charge that they're paying, and they're actually
43:36
Speaker 17: not paying their share of network costs. Those costs still
43:39
Speaker 17: have to be paid by everyone else, so you have
43:42
Speaker 17: fewer people paying for more network costs. Of course, the
43:45
Speaker 17: prices is going to go up and it's going to
43:47
Speaker 17: keep happening the more and more people get solar because
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Speaker 17: of the subsidies. So yes, I just think we have
43:52
Speaker 17: to end the subsidies. We have to end the cross subsidies.
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Speaker 17: It's just not the way to run an energy system.
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Speaker 1: Where do you think the government should be putting its investments.
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Speaker 17: I think it's really clear that the market has been
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Speaker 17: telling us. Evidence from overseas has been telling us we
44:05
Speaker 17: cannot keep building intimident power and having prices go down.
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Speaker 17: We need to build reliable, dispatchable twenty four to seven power.
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Speaker 17: We have to have every option on the table. We
44:15
Speaker 17: have to lift bans. We cannot be banning energy sources.
44:17
Speaker 17: We must have every single option on the table. Australians
44:20
Speaker 17: deserve nothing less and that is why at Affordable Energy
44:23
Speaker 17: Australia we've launched a petition. We're now at ten thousand
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Speaker 17: position signatures, which I'm really excited about, but we need more.
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Speaker 17: So I really encourage everyone please go to Affordable Energy
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Speaker 17: dot org dot U and sign the petition. It would
44:34
Speaker 17: mean so much to me and it would mean so
44:36
Speaker 17: much for our country, and we need to show the
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Speaker 17: politicians that they need to listen to the Australian people
44:43
Speaker 17: and actually give us affordable, reliable energy and not ideology.
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Speaker 1: Right and great piece in the paper today Zoe, thank
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Speaker 1: you very much for your time. Thanks, thank you. Right
44:51
Speaker 1: still to come. Nigel Farage embraces his inner Tony Abbott,
44:55
Speaker 1: I'll show you those comments after the break. Welcome back. Well.
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Speaker 1: A Cambridge University professor beloved by the left has quit
45:07
Speaker 1: over allegations of plagiarism. Diversity poster boy professor Jason Arday
45:12
Speaker 1: was exposed after The Telegraph found more than one hundred
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Speaker 1: pages of his PhD were nearly identical to work produced
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Speaker 1: by other students. Now he also claimed there'd been a
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Speaker 1: racist campaign against him, that a pig's head had been
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Speaker 1: left on his parents' doorstep, and that there was a
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Speaker 1: threat by a knife wielding masked man. But the story
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Speaker 1: is now unraveling and joding me from London is spiked
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Speaker 1: online editor Tom Slater, Tom, thanks so much for your time. Look,
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Speaker 1: could this have a flow on effect to others who
45:45
Speaker 1: you know who use their identity to gain positions of power?
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Speaker 15: Oh, almost certainly, Sharry. I mean there are all sorts
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Speaker 15: of allegations against other academics which have been swirling around,
45:58
Speaker 15: and this might be the prompt for some those to
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Speaker 15: go public. I think it also will have a trickle
46:02
Speaker 15: down effect on the institutions which indulged our day for
46:05
Speaker 15: so long. Up until last night, Cambridge University were completely
46:09
Speaker 15: sticking by their man were saying that this was essentially
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Speaker 15: a kind of smear campaign and a witch hunt mounted
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Speaker 15: by the right wing press and whoever. And it's only
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Speaker 15: now that they've relented and actually opened an investigation into
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Speaker 15: the mounting allegations of plagiarism which exists. There's a lot
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Speaker 15: of questions to be asked about how many other academics,
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Speaker 15: as you say, have benefited from this DEI takeover of
46:29
Speaker 15: our academic institutions, but also those academic institutions themselves. Why
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Speaker 15: did they throw out standards, usual process, academic excellence, merit
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Speaker 15: at the ulter of Black Lives matter, because that seems
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Speaker 15: to be what has happened here. M.
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Speaker 1: I want to turn to Nigel Farage now and it
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Speaker 1: seems he is taking a leaf from one of our
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Speaker 1: former Prime ministers, Tony Abbott. Have a look at these
46:51
Speaker 1: comments that Forrage made when he was talking about reforms
46:56
Speaker 1: border policy.
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Speaker 4: They tried offshore process, They've tried a number of things
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Speaker 4: and in the end what worked was towing the boats
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Speaker 4: back to Indonesia. And since then hardly a boat has
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Speaker 4: landed in Australia. I am entirely confident, but under a
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Speaker 4: Reform government, within a fortnight there would be no more boats.
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Speaker 1: So this was of course the policy of Tony Abbott
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Speaker 1: during the election campaign in twenty thirteen. Do you think
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Speaker 1: this could work as well for Farage?
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Speaker 11: Oh?
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Speaker 15: Absolutely, I think not only Reform UK and Nigel Farage,
47:34
Speaker 15: but as the Conservative Party have taken a lot of
47:36
Speaker 15: inspiration and in many cases been in talks with Tony
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Speaker 15: Abbot himself to try and emulate what was achieved in
47:42
Speaker 15: terms of stopping the boats in Australia. Of course it's
47:44
Speaker 15: not a perfectly analogous situation the English. The gap between
47:47
Speaker 15: France and England, shall we say, is a hell of
47:49
Speaker 15: a lot shorter than the gap between Australia and Indonesia.
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Speaker 15: But nevertheless, I think what has become so clear is
47:55
Speaker 15: that despite all of the arguments a back human rights law,
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Speaker 15: all of the arguments about how difficult this is and
47:59
Speaker 15: so on and so forth, it is a question of
48:01
Speaker 15: political will. It can be done if you have the
48:03
Speaker 15: where of all to do it. And I think what
48:05
Speaker 15: also the Australia example shows is that there is a
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Speaker 15: tremendous human cost to allowing this kind of illegal, dangerous
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Speaker 15: form of migration to continue, and that's something that certainly
48:14
Speaker 15: any clear minded person should want to get on top of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the drownings were absolutely horrific. Look, we're seeing that
48:21
Speaker 1: perhaps Spain should also adopt Tony Abbott's policy because mass
48:24
Speaker 1: protests have erupted over their immigration crisis. I mean, this
48:27
Speaker 1: seems to be happening right across Europe. Really a lot
48:30
Speaker 1: of migrants from Morocco. We've seen scenes where they've been
48:34
Speaker 1: storming beaches, residents are urging tighter border controls.
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Speaker 15: What's going on, Well, I think what we're seeing here
48:41
Speaker 15: is that there's backlash not only to what we saw
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Speaker 15: happen in that Spanish enclave, but also to the leadership
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Speaker 15: of the Spanish government. Pedro Sanchez is sort of bucking
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Speaker 15: the europe white trend in terms of being even more
48:52
Speaker 15: liberal in relation to migration, allowing one hundreds of thousands,
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Speaker 15: potentially millions of illegal migrants to naturalize their status, all
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Speaker 15: while across Europe, basically from left to right, you're seeing
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Speaker 15: political parties say that this has got to stop. We've
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Speaker 15: got to end the legal migration We've got to get
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Speaker 15: on top of the clear populist backlash which is being
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Speaker 15: inflicted on governments across the piece. So I think this
49:15
Speaker 15: was always coming to Spain. They're experiencing many of the
49:17
Speaker 15: same problems in many other countries. They're just lumbered with
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Speaker 15: a government which is insisting on going the other way
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Speaker 15: to kind of placate the more left wing parts of
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Speaker 15: its coalition and polite society. But I think what we're
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Speaker 15: seeing in Spain, as with everywhere else, is the public
49:31
Speaker 15: are not going to let any government of any strike
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Speaker 15: get away with that anymore, given how serious the problems become.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is serious, and there's a massive backlash to it.
49:39
Speaker 1: The United States is urging the UK to increase its
49:42
Speaker 1: defense spending. Look at try to get Australia to do this.
49:45
Speaker 1: Albanezy government just wasn't having any of it. I mean,
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Speaker 1: our defense situation is dire. Just got thirty seconds. Do
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Speaker 1: you think Andy Burnham's going to start taking defense more seriously?
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Speaker 15: I suppose the one indication that it might be is
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Speaker 15: that John Healey, the former Defense secretary who resigned over
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Speaker 15: Keir Starmer's reviews, will sump up the cash is now
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Speaker 15: as Chancellor. That's a good indication. But at the same time,
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Speaker 15: there's not an awful lot of money to spend, despite
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Speaker 15: what Andy Burnham likes to make out, So time will tell.
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Speaker 11: I suppose.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Tom saida thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: your time, and that's all we've got time for tonight.
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Speaker 1: a lot of news, and I'll see you on Monday
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