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laced up let's go it's time for better with the
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boys yo yo welcome back to banter with the boys
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gridiron updates this is uh what week 16 game
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recap episode recap we had a couple overtime
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games a couple young quarterbacks taking some
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steps forward We got a couple hosts here this
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week. Yes, you heard me. We got a couple hosts
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other than yourself or myself. I guess you guys
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are hosts now, too. I'm Smelty. Coach. We got
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Roberto. What's up? What's up, fam? What's up,
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fam? And then we got new co -host. Hi. Jake,
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you'll have to excuse Jake's somber mood. I'm
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in mourning. I'm sorry. If you haven't listened
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to us before, he's a Ravens fan. That's all you
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need to know. Yeah, not a good night. No, he's
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wearing all black. Amazing grace. He's definitely
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ready. Behind the camera, we got Kev, as always.
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Hi, Kev. Oh, God. All right, with that, yeah,
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I suppose that's it. This would be a spot where
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a real podcast would do housekeeping notes right
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here, but I don't think we have any, so we'll
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just move on because we're not a real podcast.
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So let's move on to our week 16 game recaps,
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Kev. And to start off game one of our... Five
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-game slate here. I can't see my keyboard. I
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got to take this off. Dang. Can you see now?
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I can see. You can see clearly now? I'm back.
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All right. Well, the first game we're going to
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start off here was a freaking doozy. Seattle.
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It was a good one. Somehow getting the win 38
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-37 when for a while there was not quite looking.
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It's an understatement to that game. That was
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wild and crazy. Game of the year. That's got
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to be in the conversation. And it wasn't really
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a collapse either. So maybe. I mean, that punt
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return, which I think obviously changed the whole
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game. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say what?
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You know. The punt return. What did it do? That
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punt return did what? Did what? Changed the Momo.
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Yay! I knew it was coming. I was going to say
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it. I was like, and then he said, say it. So
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anyway, I'm sorry. But yeah, I'm doing play by
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play. But after that, I mean, so that got him
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down by one score. So I don't think that's what
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the epic collapse would be. But but but special
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teams is part of the team. Sure. And they were
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up 30 to 14 at that moment in time. I mean, who
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saw that two -point conversion go for a backwards
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pass, get bounced into the end zone, then Charbonnet
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randomly picks it up for a two -point conversion?
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There was so much wrong with that. Enlighten
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us. Where do you want me to start? What was wrong
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with it? You thought the call was wrong? Yeah,
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I do. Yeah, 100%. Okay. So they initially ruled
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it as like a forward pass. Right. On the field.
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Yep. And there was a whistle. You can clearly
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hear a whistle before Charbonnet even picks up
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the ball at all. And then upon further review,
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they're saying that it was a backwards pass.
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Which it was. Well, it was more like a parallel
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pass, but a parallel pass by definition to that
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rule still counts as a backwards pass. Allegedly.
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By that camera angle. I don't think there was
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enough video evidence for them to even over...
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turned their initial calling before it even went
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under further review because Sky Judge was like,
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oh, no, it's a backwards pass. We never got to
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see what Sky Judge saw. We never do. We never
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get to see what they actually see. There's so
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many freaking times. You're trying to steal the
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curtain of the script, right? Because the replay
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they kept replaying was never down the line of
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script. It was on the defensive side. You can
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make an argument that there's not clear and obvious
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video. You sound upset about this. I've been
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frustrated with... He's a Matthew Stafford fan.
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That's what's going on. There's some residuals
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from the Steelers -Ravens game that's been pent
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up in me about what is and isn't a catch. That's
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a separate thing, and we always... All players
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and all teams have to play better than the ref's
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ref in order to win a game. So... So what you're
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saying is that Seattle should not have been three
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for three in their two -point conversion. Correct.
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And even if they did say, hey, that was a fumble,
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there was a clear whistle before Charbonnet even
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picked it up, which would have killed the play
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at that point. Yeah, but isn't it like who would
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most likely pick up the ball or was nearest or
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some kind of weird, goofy loophole, lemon law?
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i'm sure there's something more in there about
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if no like if there's no clear possession then
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the play's just dead clearly they picked it up
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and they gave him two so after the whistle after
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the whistle so so official statement from jake
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is not does not agree with that no He's out.
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He's out. The officials doing the replay stuff
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have been sketchy at best. I think they're drunk.
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No, I'm not calling him drunk. Yes, blind. Blind.
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Need to go to Walgreens and get new cheaters.
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Or paid? Uh -oh. That'll come up when I talk
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about Derrick Henry later. 18 rushing attempts.
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Stinging words. Puka Nakua, 225 yards. Game fantasy
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football. Not letting the off -field stuff bother
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him at all. Seattle's a... Ultimately, at the
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end of the whole game, you learn that Seattle's
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a really difficult team to beat because they
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pretty much lost in every important statistical
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stat against the Rams. And Sam Darnold was looking
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like playoff Minnesota Sam Darnold for most of
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the game. And then for like four weeks. Yeah.
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So it's just like Seattle was able to buckle
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their chin straps and play defense in the fourth
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quarter when they needed it. I mean, other than
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that defense, Seattle should have lost that game.
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100%. But, hey, they squeaked it out. Now they're
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the one seed. Squeaked it out 100 % no matter
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what. Which definitely helps them. Yeah. Since
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Jake says 12's back now. I didn't say that yet.
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12's back. They did make an appearance during
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that game. They did. They didn't seem loud. No,
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not at first. High five from Kevin. High five
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from Kevin. Yeah, yeah. So, anyway. With that,
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let's move on here. Yeah, like you said, Seattle
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getting the win 38 -37, getting to 12 -3. Rams
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fall to 10 -4. Still very much alive. 11 -4.
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I'm sorry. No. Yeah, my bad. 11 -4. I'm tripping.
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But Rams still very much alive in that attempt
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at the one seed, maybe, but they got to beat
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out Seattle at this point, and that's unlikely
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to happen with that L. Let's move on. Let's see.
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What do we got? What's the next one? Yeah. Ooh,
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yes. Packers taking on the Bears in Chicago.
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Packers feeling like that maybe, I guess, controlling
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the game, most of the game. If you would call
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that control, nobody really seemed to get an
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edge for a good majority of the game. Oh, the
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weather sucked. Weather sucked. Jordan Love went
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down early. Classic NFC North kind of football
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game. Cold, windy. No Josh Jacobs, right? Or
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did he? He played. Yeah, not very well. After
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he fumbled in the third quarter, you didn't see
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him the rest of the game. Yeah, Wilson. Yeah,
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Manuel Wilson played a lot more touches. Yeah.
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But Malik Willis stepping in and actually playing
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pretty well. So, I mean, I wouldn't be. Who do
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they got again this week? The Packers? I don't
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think we're talking about them. Rams. Or not
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Rams. Excuse me. Ravens. Oh, yeah. No, we vaccinated
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that game. Both teams lost. Yeah. But. If you're
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a Packer fan, you don't feel that conflicted,
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I guess, maybe, with Malik Willis maybe playing
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that well. Obviously, you'd rather have Jordan
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Love, but if the Bravens don't have Lamar Jackson,
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you know. Malik Willis did really good for him
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the weeks two and three, and even in that game
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against the Eagles in week one last year. So
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they have a very competent backup quarterback.
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I think the Packers should feel perfectly fine
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with Malik Willis running in the playoffs. No,
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just like to finish it out if they had to. Well,
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yeah, I hear you. Which they would right now
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they're sitting at the last spot in the playoffs.
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Yeah, I mean, he looked really cool. Common collect.
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So I was pretty impressed with him, especially
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in a big stage scenario like that. End of the
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game, obviously, was really weird. Chicago sneaking
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it out. I think both of these teams. What was
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weird about it, just like how everything transpired?
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Well, it was a slow defensive game. I mean, that
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win really affected. Then you had Love go out,
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and then the Bears lingered around, and then
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ended up getting the W in overtime. But neither
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of those teams. seem like a team that's like
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oh yeah that's nfc championship quality you know
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i feel like any of them could get beat round
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one yeah but what i did what i did like about
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it though is caleb williams finally stepping
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up in a clutch time like and he didn't play bad
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per se all day but until that moment where he
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threw uh Was it DJ Moore? Yeah. Not right away.
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That game -winning one in OT? No, I know the
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game -winning one was DJ Moore, but was it also
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DJ Moore to put him in position? No, that one
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wasn't DJ Moore. That was number 20. Walker.
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Yeah, their backup. Well, he caught it, didn't
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he? The winner? Yeah. Or the tying touchdown?
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I'm saying to put him deep, though. I think DJ
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Moore caught another deep pass to put him there,
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didn't he? I think you're right. I can't remember.
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But either way, Caleb Williams stepping up big
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in clutch time, which is kind of what I've been
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waiting to see from him. You know, a guy that
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came out of... of college with so much hype like
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trevor lawrence who we also saw play pretty well
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this week and we'll talk about him but it just
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it's refreshing to see these guys that are coming
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out with so much hype finally like showing us
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in a game time moment like that and then you
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go ahead and get the onside kick And then he
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turns it. I don't know. I love it. I loved it.
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I hate the Bears. I hate the Packers. But I think
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Bears fans finally deserve something to be happy
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about. And I actually think with that defense,
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too, the Bears, I don't know. The Bears could
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make a run. I'm not saying they're going to the
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Super Bowl. I'm not saying they're better than
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that Rex Grossman team. But I don't know. This
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Bears team does feel good enough to compete with
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somebody like the Rams. I mean, they got that
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Daniels feel to them, you know, like they're
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kind of exciting. I just like that Caleb Williams
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is not turning over the ball. You know, that's
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the number one thing. I think the difference
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between this year and last year. Yeah. And Ben
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Johnson. I think Kim and Ben Johnson are a concerning
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match for us Vikings fans. I mean, the play call
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in there, you get some unique different formations,
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you know, get the ball. You get Caleb outside
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the pocket a ton. Really effective on that play
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action play. I mean, they ran for another buck
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50 this week. He's got a lot of control when
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he's on the run a lot this year compared to,
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like, last year. I mean, but the Packers defense
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also played him pretty tough. You know, they
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limited him on anything downfield, so that's
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why the numbers don't, you know, are huge. I
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mean, I'll give the Bears credit. They, you know,
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stuck around, got it done. They've been kind
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of doing it all this year. I think Green Bay
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really missed Micah Parsons late in that game,
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too. That motor to keep that. that defensive
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engine going and trying to keep pressure as they
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did like while they were able to get some pressure
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on caleb williams he was able to escape it get
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out of the pocket and make those big plays whereas
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if you had like micah he might have been able
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to track him down and get one or two sacks on
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those more like important third third down and
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there was a fourth down that they snuck out to
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i believe no yeah yeah For sure. Well, Bears
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getting the win, 22 -16 over the Packers. Still
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in contention for that number one seed, right
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behind the Seattle Seahawks. But we'll touch
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on some of that playoff stuff here in our preview
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episode. I mean, I kind of hope they get the
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one seed. The Bears? Yeah, Chicago winner in
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January. The NFL's going to hate it. Yeah, who's
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going to want to visit that? Well, they'll get
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a new stadium fast enough. With a roof. Everybody's
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going that way. Everybody's going that way. All
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the stadiums look the same. It's stupid. It's
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stupid. I hate it. They're all glass bowls now.
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U .S. Bank at least has a little bit. I'm a homer
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for it. But U .S. Bank at least has a little
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bit more. to it with the point, and it's supposed
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to be a ship in the skyline. Does it look like
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a ship? Eh, arguable. Spaceship. And it's only
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got half a clear roof. All these stadiums are
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doing full clear roofs now, so there's some difference.
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Oh, my gosh. But they all look the same. I hate
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it. You want to see some frickin' character.
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Lambeau Field is going to be the only stadium
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left with some frickin' character to it. Anyway,
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sorry. Sidebar. Let's see. What are we doing?
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Jaguars at Denver. Jaguars getting the win 34
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-20. Uh -oh. I think. Uh -oh. What do you mean
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by uh -oh? Uh -oh. We got to see some old Clemson
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Tiger Trevor Lawrence coming out to play. The
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way he moved around, the way he was firing that
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thing in there. Oh, yeah, for sure. Now, it was
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a slow start. The first two drives were not good.
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I think the Broncos were playing rope -a -dope
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on them, on the Jags. Well, it didn't work then.
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No, they don't want to show anything because
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they think that they're going to. Sean Payton
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is probably thinking we're. So you take an L
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at home? No, not take an L at home. Snap a 12
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game home winning streak. Snap an 11 game season
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winning streak. I'm not saying that they were
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purposely trying to take an L, but maybe you're
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not. Just a competitive L. Yeah, sure. A competitive
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L. But no, you're just maybe keeping things close
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to the vest, not. showing them everything that
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you've got because you think you're going to
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see them again in the playoffs. On that, I'm
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not tripping if I'm Denver. I'm actually happy
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we took an L now if I'm a Denver fan than in
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the playoffs. There's no way you can sustain.
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There's something to be said about taking an
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L late in the season with a team with as good
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of a record as they have because it's going to
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bring them back down to earth and be like, oh,
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we can lose. All right, now we have to get focused
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again and get better. I don't think they lost
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on purpose, though. I'm not saying they lost
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on purpose. But I'm just saying, because now
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it opens the whole can of worms for New England
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to sneak in here and steal the one seed away
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from them. He's looking at the moral L of it
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is what he's looking at. He's putting out coach
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Jacob Payton. But I don't hate all of it, because
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it makes sense. Take an L now, again, like I
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was saying, too, before you get to the playoffs.
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Otherwise, obviously, you're it. That's it. But
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you almost do want the team to feel like. that
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they're human, that they can make a mistake,
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especially on a season that they've played so
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freaking well. So I imagine they bounce back,
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no problem, but do they end up getting the one
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seed? What do they got? They got the Chiefs and
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the Chargers left. Well, Chargers could be tough.
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Other than that, it looks like they're going
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to at least go 1 -1 at the worst because Chiefs
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aren't going to be trying very hard. The Chiefs
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are part of that Christmas day. Chargers can't
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really. I mean, it would be tough for the Chargers
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to win the division, too. So, I don't know. We'll
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find out. Chargers have already clinched, too,
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so you could see them just sitting a bunch of
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people. You think so? I mean, that's the last
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game of the season, too. So, there's no way you
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can get. the one seed or higher than Denver or
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win the division, then why? Yeah. You know, then
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for sure you're sitting people. And so is Denver.
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God, that should be a game we cover that week.
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Well, unless Denver needs it. Well, yeah, which
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they could be. Right, right. Or Jacksonville?
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No, it's probably Patriots or Denver at this
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point. All right. Yeah, buddy. We'll touch again
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on all the playoffs in our preview episode, which
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don't forget to check out the episode in between,
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which will be our tent talk episode. Oh, Rob.
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We're working on it. You know what? Let's move
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on. All right. Vikings traveling to the New York
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Giants, getting the win 16 to 13. W. We could
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leave it right there, really. This was a really
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good nap game. Defense played well. Well, Will
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Reichert's a great kicker. B -Flow doing the
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thing that he does best, disguising and scheming
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against rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, Dart did not
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look great. Nope, not at all. Did not look great.
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Very confused of who was coming and who was not.
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I like their running back, Tyrone Tracy Jr. He
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is. He might be a guy. I drafted him high in
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fantasy thinking because he just started playing
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running back like three years ago. Interesting.
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So, I mean, he's just an athlete. So, last year
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was his second year. So, I was expecting a little
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bit bigger. But, I mean, he's starting. So, there
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could be some growth yet even in the next season
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for that. Next year. So, I keep an eye on him
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for fantasy next year. Yeah, scatter would hurt
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a couple of bucks. Yeah, right. Sure. But if
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they can. find a quarterback because i think
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the giants are you know man the top five and
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i don't know if jackson dart there's two up there
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um the guy from indiana and the guy from oregon
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um this quarterback class doesn't excite me yeah
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more and it yeah it gets more and more depressing
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i think i think i'm rolling with dart Yeah, me
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too. And I'm drafting like O -line or something.
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I'm hoping I get as high a pick as I can, and
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then I'm trading out for more draft picks. I'd
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trade out because you've got two quarterbacks,
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then like one O -tackle, and then it's all D
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-edge rushers are kind of top ten. Where do you
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want that tackle? Interesting. Something to keep
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an eye on for you Giants fans. That front was
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indeed scary, as you guys were touching on before
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that game. You know, I ended up getting the strip
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sack by Burns, I think it was, and Tyler Newbin,
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former gopher, you know. Roll the boat. Roll
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the boat. Getting the tug. So that was kind of
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fun to see, even though it was against the Vikings.
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Yeah, Ryan Kelly went down again while wearing
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the Guardian cap. So was it another concussion
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head thing? Yeah, I don't know. That's not good,
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man. I can't imagine him playing football next
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year. It's been a constant issue of him picking
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him up from the Colts. He played last year. Brosmer,
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who's going to start this week, will touch on
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why in our Tent Talk episode. Was JJ soft benched
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or is that hand injury legit? He's out. He's
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out this week. I think it's legit. But it's also
19:39
a short week, right? But it's allegedly a hairline
19:42
fracture in his hand. Yeah, and? Hey, man. Justin
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Herbert. I don't make up the rules. I mean, hey,
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my ankle freaking whoopsies. My ankle swelled
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up pretty good when I had a hairline fracture
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in that thing. Oh, yeah. That was only a hairline.
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That was from. You know, a fun night, and then
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I walked off a curb funny. Yeah, I could have
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a podcast of all my injuries. It would be entertaining,
20:09
at least five episodes. Nice. Yeah, but we don't
20:12
need to do that. Anyway, what I was saying was
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Brosmer looked okay when he came in. You know,
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let him down, got a feel, go out of the drive,
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whatever, nothing crazy. But he's going to have
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to play against the Detroit Lion team, who is
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probably pissed off right now. Or they don't
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care at all. I don't know. Detroit needs to win.
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They have to. Yeah, they have to win. And the
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Vikings are going to be wearing the all -whites,
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crispy whites, you know, Christmas Day. I'll
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be there. I'll be there. I'm thinking about it.
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I'm thinking about buying tickets day of. Do
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it. Those jerseys are awesome. I just wish that
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there was more importance to that game for the
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Vikings. Trust us. We do, too, homie. I agree
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100%. It's going to be a nice afternoon in downtown
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Minneapolis. That's it. That's it. Watching some
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football. Yeah. Hanging out with some friends.
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Yep. You going with some buddies? The wifey.
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She's a friend, I guess. My best friend. There
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you go. Best friend. There it is. All right.
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Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on to
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the reason why Jake's here, actually. Do we have
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like a gong or something? Like an undershaker?
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We can get a gong. Oh, my God. I meant to say
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gong. All right. Let's do this final game. Fire
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up that fog machine. Let's fire up the old fog
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machine. All right. Last game. Patriots getting
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the win. over the Ravens 28 -14. I'll just let
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you lead in here. Gosh, I don't know where to
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start. Let's start with Lamar. Is he in the Ravens
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uniform next season? Why are you even asking
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that? Are you giving up on him? No, he's not.
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Is he the new Dak? No, I don't think he's in
21:55
the regular season playoffs. He's not even making
21:59
it to the playoffs this year. Because they have
22:03
to hope and pray that the Steelers lose against
22:06
the Browns. And then they have to beat the Steelers
22:08
in week 18. So chances are slim to none that
22:12
you're going to see Ravens in the postseason
22:14
this year. Yeah. Dog pound. But a valid effort
22:21
coming back from 1 -7. Yeah, being 1 -5. I think
22:30
it was a really good microcosm of their entire
22:33
season. Lamar getting hurt again. Lamar's missed
22:39
so much time this year. What else do we have
22:42
going on? Defense being questionable, giving
22:45
up leads again. This was the 12th lead in the
22:48
last five years where they were up seven or more
22:51
points going into the fourth quarter that they've
22:54
blown. Over five years, that's the most out of
22:58
any team. It's kind of embarrassing. Kept them
23:01
to 79, Russian. Yeah, they did really well, but
23:06
Drake May just picked them apart. They were playing
23:09
a whole bunch of zone. Hunter Henry, Stephan
23:12
Diggs, just they felt like they were wide open.
23:18
Yeah. Miracle. Hey, he'll always have it. They
23:22
just felt like, to me, like they were just wide
23:24
open the entire game. It didn't matter who you
23:26
were trying to cover. Diggs is a good route runner.
23:28
And then untimely turnovers, Derek Henry with
23:32
a fumble, Zay Flowers in the fourth quarter,
23:34
and they're trying to come back. That's tough.
23:37
That Zay Flowers fumble just ended the game.
23:40
Play beyond chase on. That hurt me. Two points.
23:42
And then we're going to continue to question
23:44
the play calling. I've been doing that pretty
23:47
much. um yeah personnel play calling get probably
23:51
personnel more so than anything but yeah you
23:54
had derrick henry score a touchdown they um and
23:59
then the next two or at least their next possession
24:02
They have Keaton Mitchell in, and I understand
24:05
that they're doing a running back rotation. That's
24:07
bullshit. But Keaton Mitchell had done nothing
24:10
or very little the entire game. Buffalo, the
24:14
Patriots were prepared to stop Keaton Mitchell.
24:18
I mean, nine for 13, that's solid. They were
24:21
all over him. But they couldn't stop. They really
24:25
weren't able to stop Derrick Henry because Derrick
24:27
Henry had a 127. 128. Yeah. And two tutties.
24:33
Here's my conspiracy, right? Derrick Henry at
24:35
18 carries for 128, two touchdowns. Who the F
24:38
sits him? Well, you do if there's a lot of bets
24:42
if he's going to get over 20 carries that game.
24:45
Oh. I don't know. That's my little conspiracy
24:49
with the Derrick Henry thing that bugs the heck
24:51
out of me. I didn't see that. Okay. Because you
24:54
would think you're riding Derrick Henry, as they
24:56
did, 20 pass attempts all game. But I don't know.
25:00
I thought that was an interesting bet. And I
25:03
think we also. The other thing is really, what
25:09
do I got for notes? Just, yeah, just a whole
25:12
slew. They've got a bunch of rebuilding to do.
25:14
Can you read them with all the tear marks? No,
25:16
I can't. It's all running together. It's all
25:19
smeared. But really. Shout out to Vrabel for
25:24
turning that Patriots team around. For sure.
25:27
Yes, sir. Tennessee Titans, I'm sure, are regretting
25:30
letting go. I still never understood that firing.
25:32
Yeah, let it go. Blame the wrong guy. Seven to
25:35
nine or something? No, that ain't right. I don't
25:38
know. But it was just under 500, I think, is
25:41
the year he got fired in Tennessee. Yeah. And
25:43
so Vrabel has won more games with the Patriots
25:45
this year than the Titans have won over the last
25:47
two years. Brilliant. Yeah. Brilliant. So. With
25:53
a second -year quarterback. Yeah. So you're going
25:56
to hold out hope for the Ravens, but there's
25:59
a reason why you're wearing black. Yeah, there's
26:01
a chance, but with them losing. Is there a chip
26:06
in the chair? There's a chip. There's no chair.
26:12
Oh, no. Like I said, we got to hope that the
26:16
Steelers lose first. They have no control over
26:20
their destiny. Hope and wish. All right. Who's
26:22
the number one position the Ravens need next
26:24
year in the draft? Quarterback. Jeez. Well, Lamar's
26:29
getting traded, so. Wow. Satan Lamar's still
26:34
there. They need to continue to work on their
26:38
offensive line. Offensive line. All right. There
26:40
it is from the horse's mouth. One of their biggest
26:42
weaknesses. And who knows? Probably defensive
26:45
line, too. Any defensive. Because we don't know
26:48
if Matabike is going to be back at all. Yeah.
26:51
So. What was his injury again? I know it was
26:54
for the season. Some kind of like neck injury.
26:56
So you got to take that serious. Yeah, that's
26:58
not good. Yeah. You need those. Yeah, you need.
27:01
You only get one of those. Yeah. Well. I digress.
27:06
Thanks for your input on the Ravens. Yeah. That's
27:10
why we brought you in here, Coach Jacob. Anyway,
27:13
that's fine. Jake? Offense coordinator, too.
27:16
That's the other thing you said they need. The
27:18
Ravens need offense coordinator? No, I didn't
27:20
say that. Oh, you said the play calling. I didn't
27:22
like the play calling or the personnel. Okay.
27:25
Oh, we used to wish more personnel. All right.
27:27
I digress. All right. Well, I had to look up
27:32
microcosm to make sure I was understanding that
27:34
when he used that word. Big words. Yeah, I was
27:38
like, whoa, community place or situation. Okay,
27:41
regarded as encapsulating in miniature the characteristic
27:45
qualities or features of something much larger.
27:47
Thanks, Gronk. Yeah, there it is. Thanks, Gronk.
27:51
Did you watch the roast of Tom Brady? No. So
27:54
the only part I actually really liked was in
27:56
the female. comedian got up there and got after
28:00
Gronk a little bit. She was just... Did you watch
28:04
it? No, but you're talking... She was making
28:08
fun of Gronk and being stupid or something. I
28:11
can't remember how it went. Something about Gronk
28:14
wanting a cookie or something. How she did it
28:16
was wild. I want a cookie. Maybe we can get a
28:19
cookie and tent. Not a single one this episode.
28:26
Anyway, Jake, thanks for being here. Thanks for
28:27
having me. Roberto. Also, thanks for being here.
28:31
You already know. Kev, of course, thanks for
28:34
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28:53
God! That's it. One of these days. Just cut it,
28:57
Kev. We're out of here. Bye. Peace. Unbelievable.
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