Latest / Movie Meltdown / 160: Let the Trauma Begin
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- 0:01Speaker 1: I would recommend it.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I left when Houdini Stan left.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have problems.
- 0:09Speaker 4: I do.
- 0:09Speaker 3: There is a restraining.
- 0:10Speaker 5: Order at home. That's not a bad problem.
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- 0:45Speaker 7: It's showtime, folks.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Enjoy the show.
- 0:50Speaker 8: Our nuclear reactor, pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
- 1:20Speaker 5: To provide more cooling in the containment chambers.
- 1:22Speaker 7: To your sentinels, we have a movie meltdown. I'm a
- 1:25Speaker 7: little too traumatized to have a scone.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Way down among Brazilians, coffee beans grow by the billions.
- 1:35Speaker 1: So they've got to find those.
- 1:37Speaker 6: Extra cups to fill.
- 1:40Speaker 9: They got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
- 1:44Speaker 3: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I'm Greg.
- 1:48Speaker 4: I'm Lucy.
- 1:49Speaker 3: I'm Fred.
- 1:49Speaker 5: I'm Marlena.
- 1:51Speaker 3: And this week we actually have a packed house. We're
- 1:53Speaker 3: actually loaded, possibly with more people than we ever had
- 1:56Speaker 3: on the show, which should be interesting. So we would
- 1:59Speaker 3: like to welcome Alan.
- 2:01Speaker 10: Hello.
- 2:01Speaker 3: And Bo. Howdy. If you guys would like to bill
- 2:05Speaker 3: yourself as specific levels of geekdom or connections to.
- 2:08Speaker 5: He announced you first. I think you should go first.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Hello.
- 2:12Speaker 11: I'm Alan. I'm a freelance movie blogger currently writing for Louisville.com.
- 2:17Speaker 11: Just click on the Movies tab and you'll find me.
- 2:21Speaker 3: And he wrote that piece on Movie Meltdown, which if
- 2:23Speaker 3: you haven't passed on to everyone you know, you're just
- 2:25Speaker 3: not doing your job as a listener. That's just me. I,
- 2:28Speaker 3: you know, whatever. Whatever you want to do, slackers. So, Beau?
- 2:34Speaker 12: I've been managing up at Baxter Avenue Theaters for more
- 2:36Speaker 12: years than I care to admit to.
- 2:38Speaker 5: And my main thing there is I program the midnight movies.
- 2:42Speaker 4: All right.
- 2:43Speaker 3: It's time for another session of the Caffeinated Movie Geek.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Cappuccino, my butt.
- 2:46Speaker 5: I still drink coffee.
- 2:49Speaker 10: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
- 2:52Speaker 13: It's time for Decaffeinated Movie Geek.
- 2:55Speaker 3: We are coming to you live from Nancy's Babel Grounds
- 2:57Speaker 3: via digital recording, where we get together, drink coffee, and
- 3:01Speaker 3: talk movies and yammer on for hours on end. So, Marlena,
- 3:07Speaker 3: I ask you, and luckily you're not getting the trio
- 3:09Speaker 3: of us doing it this week, so I ask you,
- 3:11Speaker 3: what blend of coffee are we drinking this week?
- 3:14Speaker 14: Fishers and Fallers.
- 3:16Speaker 3: All right.
- 3:17Speaker 14: And I'm sorry that I sound like Fran Drescher.
- 3:19Speaker 11: I've had a cold.
- 3:21Speaker 6: Um.
- 3:22Speaker 3: If we can convince people we got Fran Drescher. I
- 3:25Speaker 3: don't know that anybody would care.
- 3:26Speaker 5: They might actually stop it, right?
- 3:29Speaker 10: Yeah, that's true.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Never mind.
- 3:31Speaker 14: I mean, she was a babe in her day. I'm
- 3:33Speaker 14: not going to... I will fight people over denying that.
- 3:38Speaker 3: You just have to go back really far. Remember Spinal Tap?
- 3:43Speaker 3: She was getting Spinal Tap.
- 3:45Speaker 7: Exactly.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 3:46Speaker 10: No.
- 3:49Speaker 15: All right.
- 3:51Speaker 3: We're trying to control our geek activities week to week now.
- 3:56Speaker 3: So unless we're just going to do an all-out episode,
- 3:58Speaker 3: which I don't know that we're going to do this
- 4:00Speaker 3: time around. So we're just going to pick and choose
- 4:03Speaker 3: who gets to do what this week. So we'll do two.
- 4:07Speaker 3: You guys can fight over it. Lucy, I know you
- 4:09Speaker 3: had a story. You want to claim it now? I
- 4:11Speaker 3: don't know.
- 4:11Speaker 4: I'm actually, I might be backpedaling on the story.
- 4:14Speaker 6: Okay.
- 4:16Speaker 2: It just suddenly occurred to me that the person about
- 4:18Speaker 2: whom the story is, we're asking for a favor. So
- 4:20Speaker 2: maybe we should wait and see if he denies the favor,
- 4:22Speaker 2: and then we'll tell the story.
- 4:23Speaker 14: Okay.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Have you watched anything else this week?
- 4:26Speaker 4: I have. Wait, was that what you had in mind?
- 4:30Speaker 3: Whatever you want to do. Okay.
- 4:33Speaker 4: Well, I did see, I've seen three movies this weekend.
- 4:36Speaker 7: Okay.
- 4:37Speaker 3: You have a problem, by the way. Go ahead.
- 4:38Speaker 5: I'm fully aware of that.
- 4:39Speaker 2: I'm seeking no help. I decided to do a Michael
- 4:43Speaker 2: Fassbender doubleheader. So I saw Haywire on Friday, Pallet Cleanse
- 4:49Speaker 2: on Saturday, which was the Man on a Ledge, and
- 4:52Speaker 2: then went today to see Dangerous Method.
- 4:55Speaker 4: So, which of those three would you like me to
- 4:58Speaker 4: tell you about?
- 4:59Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't take much to do a double feature
- 5:02Speaker 3: of Michael Fassbender. Just go see two movies.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Right, two random movies.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Anything you see at this point now has Michael Fassbender.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Tell us what you thought about Shame.
- 5:10Speaker 5: Review Shane.
- 5:11Speaker 4: I haven't actually seen Shane.
- 5:12Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.
- 5:13Speaker 5: Review him.
- 5:14Speaker 4: It was really sexy. That's all I know about it.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Michael Fassbender was amazing.
- 5:21Speaker 4: Let's see.
- 5:22Speaker 3: I'll start.
- 5:23Speaker 4: Should I just jump in there with Haywire?
- 5:25Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Has anybody else seen it? Am I the only one?
- 5:28Speaker 3: I'm on my own. It's all you.
- 5:30Speaker 4: I'm a woman on a ledge. Okay. It was, I
- 5:34Speaker 4: was confounded by it. I think ultimately I walked away
- 5:36Speaker 4: liking it.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Tonally, I couldn't really decide what was going on at first.
- 5:42Speaker 2: My sort of experience with Steven Soderbergh is that obviously,
- 5:45Speaker 2: you know, he sort of does these small, interesting movies.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And then he does, you know, that maybe don't, that
- 5:51Speaker 2: have a low budget and maybe don't look super great
- 5:54Speaker 2: but have a lot to say. And then he does
- 5:56Speaker 2: these huge glossy movies that are kind of empty.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Ocean's Eleven's good.
- 6:01Speaker 10: Shut up.
- 6:02Speaker 4: So this sort of seemed like the worst of all worlds.
- 6:06Speaker 2: It was just like this action film that looked terrible.
- 6:08Speaker 3: I was going to say, I haven't seen it, but
- 6:11Speaker 3: I heard one review and it was kind of that
- 6:13Speaker 3: same thing. It was not so positive.
- 6:15Speaker 2: But it actually, somewhere halfway through, won me over. I mean,
- 6:19Speaker 2: it's intentionally schlocky it just it just looked I mean
- 6:22Speaker 2: the quality of it was so poor it just looked
- 6:24Speaker 2: like a really bad 90s independent film like just sort
- 6:27Speaker 2: of like a genesis of I mean I can't even
- 6:30Speaker 2: get into how bad it looked but it something happens
- 6:33Speaker 2: like there's certain cues where I was like wait is
- 6:35Speaker 2: this intentionally terrible and then I was like oh it
- 6:38Speaker 2: is because this music is so ridiculously over the top
- 6:40Speaker 2: like he's going for something here and she Gina Carano
- 6:44Speaker 2: am I saying her name right I'm just going to
- 6:46Speaker 2: guess fighter girl yeah the mixed martial arts lady yeah
- 6:50Speaker 2: She can't act, God bless her heart, but.
- 6:53Speaker 10: It kind of worked. Better watch it.
- 6:55Speaker 3: She'll kick your ass.
- 6:57Speaker 4: But everything about it worked. I mean, it was super fun.
- 7:00Speaker 4: So anyway, I guess ultimately got a thumbs up.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Super fun is.
- 7:04Speaker 3: You know, super fun. Intentionally, what was it? Intentionally... Intentionally schlocky. Schlocky.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, I guess it's supposed to be
- 7:12Speaker 2: just kind of a gal kicking the dude's ass.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Kind of movie. There's a lot of those lately.
- 7:17Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 7:18Speaker 3: That's not a bad thing.
- 7:19Speaker 2: But this was interesting because I don't think there's a
- 7:21Speaker 2: waitress at the beginning, but I was trying to think
- 7:22Speaker 2: if there was another female with lines, and I don't
- 7:25Speaker 2: think that it really was.
- 7:26Speaker 4: It was just sort of her navigating this male world.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Does she have lines, or does she just kick people's ass?
- 7:31Speaker 10: Oh, she does.
- 7:31Speaker 2: And apparently, she actually has this really sort of smoky,
- 7:34Speaker 2: sultry voice, and I heard later that it was digitally manipulated.
- 7:38Speaker 10: Turn up the smoky.
- 7:40Speaker 3: They dubbed in Kathleen Turner. I'm going to kick your
- 7:43Speaker 3: ass now.
- 7:44Speaker 4: I was a little shocked.
- 7:45Speaker 2: I actually read that the budget was like $ 25 million
- 7:47Speaker 2: and it's making me concerned that Steven Soderbergh maybe has
- 7:50Speaker 2: a drug problem.
- 7:51Speaker 4: I just don't know.
- 7:52Speaker 2: There were lots of locations and I guess that's kind
- 7:54Speaker 2: of his deal. He likes to travel around and hang
- 7:56Speaker 2: out with his buddies.
- 7:57Speaker 10: And do drugs.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Maybe you're going the wrong way. Maybe he just has
- 8:02Speaker 3: a nice Swiss bank account somewhere. Just funnel that money
- 8:06Speaker 3: and buy a nice house somewhere and be in another
- 8:09Speaker 3: country where they can't be extradited.
- 8:10Speaker 4: So that's what I got.
- 8:11Speaker 2: But actually, I thought, is it Misty that hates Channing Tatum?
- 8:13Speaker 4: Do I remember her?
- 8:15Speaker 1: Doesn't everybody hate Channing Tatum?
- 8:17Speaker 3: I can't say in particular. Something I remember.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Reasonably speaking about how much they hate Channing Tatum, and
- 8:22Speaker 2: there's actually a great line at the beginning because she's
- 8:25Speaker 2: sort of on the run, and you're just being introduced
- 8:28Speaker 2: to her character, and this car pulls up, and the
- 8:31Speaker 2: first line of the film, Channing Tatum gets out of
- 8:34Speaker 2: the car, and.
- 8:34Speaker 5: She goes, oh shit.
- 8:36Speaker 4: I'm like, that was kind of my reaction. I'm like, wait,
- 8:38Speaker 4: he's in this?
- 8:39Speaker 3: Oh shit.
- 8:40Speaker 12: It was strange you mentioned that too because somebody was
- 8:43Speaker 12: telling me the other day they read somewhere that there's
- 8:45Speaker 12: supposed to be some Hollywood movie about his life.
- 8:48Speaker 5: I'm like, Really?
- 8:49Speaker 7: Channing Tatum?
- 8:49Speaker 3: Channing Tatum?
- 8:50Speaker 5: They're doing a biopic at this stage?
- 8:52Speaker 10: Channing Tatum.
- 8:54Speaker 11: Right.
- 8:55Speaker 4: I gotta say, he kind of won me over in
- 8:57Speaker 4: this one.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Wait, wait, wait.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Between that, and let me say something else.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Between that and the trailer for, I'm sure you guys
- 9:03Speaker 2: already know about this, but I'm behind on everything, The
- 9:06Speaker 2: 21 Jump Street.
- 9:07Speaker 14: Oh, God.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:09Speaker 1: With Jonah Hill?
- 9:10Speaker 4: I thought it looked amazing.
- 9:11Speaker 7: Oh, no.
- 9:12Speaker 4: I'm alone in that?
- 9:13Speaker 3: Oh, you're still alone on that one. I was....
- 9:17Speaker 1: Which one's Johnny Depp?
- 9:18Speaker 3: The thing that was really weird was he looks so
- 9:21Speaker 3: different in that. Like, he looks like he gained, like,
- 9:23Speaker 3: 40 pounds. Like, what happened between the last few projects? And, like,
- 9:27Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he looks like he's trying to
- 9:29Speaker 3: catch up with Jonah Hill. I don't know what the
- 9:32Speaker 3: deal is. Because, yeah, Jonah dropped some, and it's like,
- 9:35Speaker 3: Channing picked it up. And I don't know. That was
- 9:37Speaker 3: very strange.
- 9:38Speaker 4: Well, he's winning me over.
- 9:39Speaker 3: I don't know. What's the new trailer that's out for
- 9:42Speaker 3: the sappy movie that he's in, where the girl loses
- 9:45Speaker 3: her memory?
- 9:46Speaker 4: That movie is going to ruin so many Valentine's Days.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I feel like that movie is going to be responsible
- 9:50Speaker 2: for so many breakups.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Did you see what I posted about it?
- 9:57Speaker 15: No.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Because it's still, it's the first thing that came to mind.
- 10:00Speaker 15: Mind.
- 10:00Speaker 3: I saw that trailer and he's trying to emote and
- 10:02Speaker 3: he's trying to be all nice to his memory-damaged wife
- 10:06Speaker 3: and I just watch him and he has that look
- 10:09Speaker 3: like a dog hears a funny noise, you know, and
- 10:11Speaker 3: he's kind of turning his head and I was just, aw,
- 10:13Speaker 3: look at that Channing Tatum. He thinks he's people. Sorry,
- 10:18Speaker 3: I just I can't watch him be serious. It's hard
- 10:21Speaker 3: enough to watch him in G.I. Joe, for God's sakes.
- 10:23Speaker 1: I can't watch him in a romance.
- 10:24Speaker 14: How would you watch G.I.
- 10:25Speaker 15: Joe?
- 10:26Speaker 3: Because Snake Eyes was there. Duh.
- 10:27Speaker 10: Cobra Commander.
- 10:28Speaker 3: When I saw the trailer.
- 10:29Speaker 5: For the second one, I was like, they made enough money.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Yeah. But have you seen who they keep throwing in there?
- 10:35Speaker 3: It looks like it's going to be a very different movie.
- 10:39Speaker 3: As much as I did not like the first one.
- 10:41Speaker 3: It's going to be more like the cartoon. It might be.
- 10:43Speaker 3: And you throw Bruce Willis in the middle of anything. Yeah,
- 10:46Speaker 3: it's like.
- 10:48Speaker 8: Here's $ 40 million. Just put those two in G.I. Joe
- 10:51Speaker 8: and I'm happy.
- 10:52Speaker 3: That's perfect casting, actually. I wish it wouldn't have sucked
- 10:57Speaker 3: the first time.
- 10:59Speaker 1: I'm still upset about the Marlon Wayans thing.
- 11:02Speaker 3: In general, like his existence.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Ever since I was forced to watch The Little Man.
- 11:10Speaker 3: You got scammed on that one.
- 11:11Speaker 8: I just about killed someone over that one.
- 11:14Speaker 11: Why did you even watch it?
- 11:16Speaker 7: Just run. Yeah, never mind.
- 11:18Speaker 3: It was one of those.
- 11:21Speaker 8: You're going to stay with someone because they're sick and
- 11:23Speaker 8: you're going to make sure they're okay.
- 11:25Speaker 1: And this was all that was available.
- 11:27Speaker 5: Well, they were sick if they were watching.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:29Speaker 5: So, so basically they got better. You died inside. Right.
- 11:33Speaker 3: The Wayne's mission is accomplished.
- 11:35Speaker 1: You know, drinking too much. I don't even know.
- 11:38Speaker 8: Castor oil or whatever. And having a four minute fart
- 11:43Speaker 8: and shit joke that you can write better than that.
- 11:47Speaker 1: So it was, it was bad.
- 11:50Speaker 14: Wow.
- 11:51Speaker 7: Me bad. Sorry.
- 11:53Speaker 1: It's your geek week.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Did you round out yours, Lucy?
- 11:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I don't think we need to
- 11:59Speaker 4: talk about.
- 12:00Speaker 6: Hand on the Ledge.
- 12:01Speaker 8: If I saw three movies in a weekend, I felt
- 12:03Speaker 8: like I'd won an award or something.
- 12:07Speaker 7: Like, really?
- 12:07Speaker 1: No, three out in theaters. Oh, yeah. No, out in theaters.
- 12:14Speaker 10: No, I see plenty at home. You get so under-exerted.
- 12:19Speaker 5: After a while.
- 12:20Speaker 17: Right.
- 12:20Speaker 10: You get on a good movie marathon. Sometimes I have
- 12:23Speaker 10: to do push-ups.
- 12:25Speaker 18: Right.
- 12:25Speaker 3: You're like, oh, man, this cheek is hurting.
- 12:30Speaker 5: I've got to sleep.
- 12:30Speaker 10: It's like when VCRs first came out. Holy cow, I
- 12:34Speaker 10: can watch as many movies.
- 12:36Speaker 3: As I want. And 17 later, you're like, oh, my God.
- 12:40Speaker 8: I just watched Krull 25 times in a row.
- 12:43Speaker 3: There's only three movies.
- 12:44Speaker 8: What do you want? That's the only movie I had
- 12:47Speaker 8: was Krull, and I just kept watching it.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all Beastmaster for me.
- 12:52Speaker 1: At least you had Beastmaster.
- 12:53Speaker 5: Man, that was awesome.
- 12:55Speaker 3: On that note, we should take a break, and we
- 12:57Speaker 3: will come back with this week's topic.
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- 15:31Speaker 3: Well, I love the movies.
- 15:33Speaker 17: Welcome to the biggest movie event of the year.
- 15:36Speaker 6: We're going to have a great night, ladies and gentlemen.
- 15:39Speaker 9: And the Oscar goes to.
- 15:41Speaker 10: Nicholson. Nick Ledger.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
- 15:44Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, Prepare yourselves.
- 15:50Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, but half the time there's only
- 15:52Speaker 3: three of us that show up for this. Right.
- 15:55Speaker 10: Mine's going to be sitting here buying this.
- 15:57Speaker 3: It's just me.
- 15:58Speaker 19: So, anyway, I'm going to have Hot Dog watch this show.
- 16:03Speaker 3: Hey, look at that. She's got a fancy dress on.
- 16:06Speaker 3: That would be fantastic. Coming to you soon. Grinding by
- 16:14Speaker 3: himself eating hot dogs. The 2012 Oscar party.
- 16:19Speaker 1: From his basement.
- 16:21Speaker 7: With all the glitz, glamour, pork products, and vicious commentary
- 16:25Speaker 7: you've come to know and love.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Hey guys, I like bologna.
- 16:30Speaker 8: So I took some bologna and I wrapped it around
- 16:33Speaker 8: a hot dog.
- 16:33Speaker 10: Rupert Popkin.
- 16:35Speaker 6: Mom!
- 16:35Speaker 10: I'm having a show down here. What the fuck?
- 16:42Speaker 3: Keep it down. I'm trying to tell all the people
- 16:45Speaker 3: about this fancy dress she's wearing.
- 16:48Speaker 7: Coming soon to this feed.
- 16:51Speaker 3: The fourth annual Oscar meltdown.
- 16:53Speaker 7: The Academy Awards will never be the same.
- 16:56Speaker 6: Show starts in one minute.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Meet me at the waterfront after the show's over.
- 17:02Speaker 15: The Academy Awards When I look into your eyes, it
- 17:10Speaker 15: comes as no surprise.
- 17:35Speaker 17: It's part of your problem, you.
- 17:47Speaker 18: Know.
- 17:47Speaker 3: You haven't seen enough movies.
- 17:49Speaker 6: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
- 17:54Speaker 6: on with the show.
- 18:05Speaker 17: I could be the first to let you.
- 18:07Speaker 19: Know That nothing means anything Now I'm standing here outside
- 18:14Speaker 19: your door In the.
- 18:16Speaker 6: Pouring rain and I can't believe Nothing's supposed to get to.
- 18:22Speaker 19: Me Now I'm in this misery I can't be with.
- 18:32Speaker 17: Anyone since I've felt our worlds collide.
- 18:37Speaker 5: It's like I almost.
- 18:39Speaker 14: Died the way you make me feel.
- 18:42Speaker 7: I'm changing, getting.
- 18:44Speaker 19: Me and breaking down inside. Baby, can't you see you're.
- 18:56Speaker 4: I'm so upset that I have to see that Alfred
- 19:00Speaker 4: Knopf movie or whatever.
- 19:02Speaker 3: You have to. Gun to your head.
- 19:06Speaker 4: I have no choice.
- 19:08Speaker 5: And I don't want to.
- 19:10Speaker 3: If you want to get by somewhere in the middle,
- 19:13Speaker 3: just watch Hook. What? Glenn Close dressed as a man
- 19:18Speaker 3: in the middle of Hook. You can suffice. You can
- 19:21Speaker 3: get by on that. I'm telling you.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Glenn close isn't she almost always.
- 19:25Speaker 3: She that's arguable but no it's a very minor little
- 19:29Speaker 3: um sort of cameo thing that yeah when if you
- 19:33Speaker 3: if you want to remember hook when he's on the
- 19:35Speaker 3: the ship and captain hook starts like yelling at two
- 19:38Speaker 3: guys and one of them's robin williams pretending like he's
- 19:41Speaker 3: in disguise and the other one standing next to him
- 19:43Speaker 3: some weird-looking guy with a beard who kind of looks
- 19:45Speaker 3: like a woman, it's Glenn Close.
- 19:47Speaker 5: Why?
- 19:48Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's never explained, I guess,
- 19:51Speaker 3: like she was hanging out with Spielberg for no good reason.
- 19:54Speaker 5: There's a man in Fatal Attraction, I credit her pun, but....
- 19:58Speaker 11: Did anybody see Angels in America? The very first scene
- 20:06Speaker 11: has Meryl Streep playing a male... Jewish rabbi.
- 20:10Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 20:11Speaker 7: Oh, really?
- 20:12Speaker 6: Uh-huh.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Because she doesn't get enough work. Some poor starving actor
- 20:17Speaker 3: out there.
- 20:18Speaker 8: Somebody needs to cast Fender and Meryl Streep in a film.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Being starving artists, right?
- 20:23Speaker 3: Oh, that's true. They don't get much work these days.
- 20:26Speaker 12: I say you make a movie that has Meryl Streep,
- 20:29Speaker 12: Sondra Bullock, Julie Roberts, Richard Gere, George Clooney, Hugh Grant,
- 20:34Speaker 12: it'll play forever.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Directed by Stephen Sutter.
- 20:39Speaker 5: No, Clint Eastwood. All the old people love Clint Eastwood.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Oh, that's true.
- 20:42Speaker 5: That'd be the kicker.
- 20:43Speaker 14: That sounds like the worst movie I've ever seen.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just thinking.
- 20:50Speaker 3: About Clint Eastwood. Think of the profit margin.
- 20:54Speaker 8: But do older people buy snacks?
- 20:58Speaker 7: Not really.
- 20:59Speaker 5: They don't know the names of movies either. I recommend
- 21:02Speaker 5: George Clooney movie. Or just George Clooney.
- 21:05Speaker 3: The Michael Fashbender movie. Well, there's six. Pick one.
- 21:09Speaker 12: I was actually irritated that we didn't have an overlap
- 21:11Speaker 12: of Ides of March and Descendants because they were men.
- 21:14Speaker 5: George Clooney movie? Which one?
- 21:16Speaker 1: Just selling two tickets.
- 21:17Speaker 3: Sorry.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Printed them out.
- 21:19Speaker 3: You got a paper bowl.
- 21:19Speaker 12: I had a couple little old ladies come in last
- 21:22Speaker 12: week and they came up and they asked for Iron Dragon.
- 21:24Speaker 5: So I sold them tickets to.
- 21:25Speaker 12: The Girl with the Dragon tattoo because I figured they
- 21:27Speaker 12: didn't want to see that Meryl Streep thing.
- 21:29Speaker 5: Oh, shit.
- 21:31Speaker 15: I used to work with a guy who would say
- 21:34Speaker 15: to me, Well, he always wanted to go to lunch
- 21:36Speaker 15: to go over, like, work stuff, and there was no
- 21:39Speaker 15: work stuff to go over.
- 21:40Speaker 5: He just wanted to talk.
- 21:41Speaker 10: About what Clint Eastwood movies he had watched that night,
- 21:45Speaker 10: or something.
- 21:46Speaker 15: And he would say to me, yeah, I got nearly
- 21:48Speaker 15: to the end of this movie last night, and I realized.
- 21:52Speaker 10: I'd rented it last week. Has that ever happened to you?
- 21:56Speaker 2: Like, no.
- 21:58Speaker 3: No, I have a brain.
- 22:01Speaker 10: I can't imagine that happening to me.
- 22:03Speaker 15: That's I had to quit the job because I couldn't
- 22:07Speaker 15: babysit this guy anymore.
- 22:09Speaker 1: I'll give you five minutes to figure out if you've
- 22:11Speaker 1: seen it before. If you started it from the beginning.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Alright, we're back and it's time for The Grind. In
- 22:27Speaker 3: this segment, we will discuss a specific topic or question
- 22:30Speaker 3: related to movies and as often as possible, which doesn't
- 22:33Speaker 3: happen often, We'd like the questions to come from you,
- 22:36Speaker 3: the listener. Lately, you've been slacking. In general, you've been slacking.
- 22:40Speaker 3: But if you have any suggestions, send them to us,
- 22:43Speaker 3: email them over, and we will try to work them
- 22:45Speaker 3: into some sort of future segment. In the meantime, this
- 22:48Speaker 3: one comes from Fred. And I thought it was pretty
- 22:51Speaker 3: damn good. He actually does listen, from what I've heard.
- 22:54Speaker 3: He seems to know about ones he's not on. That
- 22:57Speaker 3: must mean something. So Fred suggested that we discuss traumatic movies.
- 23:02Speaker 3: Or then as we... got into the breakdown more or
- 23:05Speaker 3: less movies that scarred you for life and uh you
- 23:09Speaker 3: were were you inspired by my horror story is that
- 23:13Speaker 3: what you said uh kick that one off my uh
- 23:16Speaker 3: my horror tale of the last.
- 23:17Speaker 15: American virgin oh yeah well that came to mind but
- 23:20Speaker 15: also at the time i was watching super with the
- 23:23Speaker 15: wife and kids oh yeah and uh it was like
- 23:26Speaker 15: finally i thought i'd got my kids to the level
- 23:29Speaker 15: of trauma that I'd been looking for. Like ever since
- 23:32Speaker 15: I tried to watch Deadwood with my daughter when she
- 23:35Speaker 15: was in fourth grade or something. Um, but yeah, they
- 23:40Speaker 15: really did not like it. Um, and I was like,
- 23:44Speaker 15: I was, I really enjoyed the movie. I had a
- 23:47Speaker 15: great time. No, I did not like.
- 23:51Speaker 3: That at all. It's not your standard superhero movie.
- 23:55Speaker 10: But they did watch it.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Then you successfully traumatized them.
- 23:59Speaker 15: It's like Dwight Schrute in Taxi Driver.
- 24:02Speaker 3: It is, exactly. It's exactly what it is.
- 24:06Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's pretty brutal in places. But if you're
- 24:11Speaker 10: in the right spirit.
- 24:13Speaker 15: To watch it, the right sense of fun, it's quite
- 24:19Speaker 15: a good comedic little movie.
- 24:22Speaker 10: It's just horrifying at the same time.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Yeah, there are. I was trying to come up with
- 24:26Speaker 3: a few different ones, and it was funny looking at
- 24:29Speaker 3: my list. Most of mine were traumatic sexually oriented. There
- 24:34Speaker 3: was only one that's like horror, and it was when
- 24:35Speaker 3: I was really, really little. So I can go into
- 24:38Speaker 3: that one. But yeah, it was funny that most of
- 24:40Speaker 3: them are just horrible, horrible, sex stories mixed into these things.
- 24:44Speaker 12: I kind of even wondered what you meant as in traumatic,
- 24:46Speaker 12: like it traumatized you as a child or as an
- 24:48Speaker 12: adult now?
- 24:50Speaker 15: Well, I have different categories. There are lots of different
- 24:54Speaker 15: kinds of trauma. I was thinking, I recently watched The
- 24:58Speaker 15: Naked City again, and it was traumatizing. I'd seen it
- 25:03Speaker 15: when I was a kid, and it was not scary
- 25:05Speaker 15: or frightening, but it was a movie where they.
- 25:09Speaker 10: They filmed on location in New York, and they really
- 25:12Speaker 10: tried to work in just the sense of the city
- 25:16Speaker 10: never sleeping. And there was something about that that just
- 25:19Speaker 10: kept me up at night. So there's that, but there's
- 25:22Speaker 10: also the traumatic movie.
- 25:24Speaker 15: Which is the movie you hate that everybody you know loves.
- 25:28Speaker 15: And so it's just alienation trauma.
- 25:32Speaker 10: What did I do that I've become so separated from my.
- 25:36Speaker 15: Fellow humans that all of them are eating this up
- 25:40Speaker 15: and I'm over here just cussing to myself.
- 25:43Speaker 3: You feel that way a lot, don't you?
- 25:44Speaker 6: Yes, yes.
- 25:45Speaker 5: I sympathize with that. I had a couple of those
- 25:47Speaker 5: over the summer. It's like, come watch this.
- 25:49Speaker 1: This is great.
- 25:50Speaker 5: I'm like, No, that's not.
- 25:52Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 25:53Speaker 10: So, you know, it was just a general.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I simply throw it out to all of those.
- 25:58Speaker 10: There's, you know, going back to the Bambi trauma.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That's what mine was that early on. It's
- 26:05Speaker 3: not Bambi, but.
- 26:07Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Yeah, if we want to go with my horror one,
- 26:11Speaker 3: and I was trying to think, because there weren't a lot,
- 26:12Speaker 3: especially horror, like, again, we, you know, we had cable
- 26:15Speaker 3: when I was a kid, so I saw way more
- 26:17Speaker 3: stuff than I ever needed to, and they didn't seem
- 26:20Speaker 3: to care. So yeah, I, I, you know, I grew
- 26:23Speaker 3: pretty scarred early, I suppose, and then didn't worry about
- 26:26Speaker 3: any of them anymore. So horror, I couldn't really think
- 26:28Speaker 3: of anything after the fact. There were a lot of
- 26:30Speaker 3: them that I really liked later, but the only one
- 26:33Speaker 3: I could think of that was like really legitimately traumatizing,
- 26:37Speaker 3: and this wasn't even the movie, this was the TV
- 26:40Speaker 3: spot for a movie. And it's not even the trailer.
- 26:43Speaker 3: I went back and watched the trailer. The trailer's normal.
- 26:46Speaker 3: It's specifically the TV spot that they ran for It's Alive.
- 26:50Speaker 3: Does anybody know that one? Do you know? Yeah.
- 26:52Speaker 5: Larry Cohen film.
- 26:53Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I went back and rewatched it today
- 26:57Speaker 3: because I was trying to, I had a weird image
- 26:59Speaker 3: of it in my head that I haven't seen it
- 27:00Speaker 3: since then, I don't think. And I went back to
- 27:02Speaker 3: double check and make sure I was thinking of the right. No, no,
- 27:04Speaker 3: it's that one. I was like, holy shit. Yep, that's it.
- 27:07Speaker 3: It starts off and it's just this shot of a bassinet.
- 27:10Speaker 3: And it's like, It's playing that, that like music box
- 27:15Speaker 3: kind of jangly rockabye baby, creepy ass music. And it, well,
- 27:19Speaker 3: it's rotating around it and it's giving you this, like
- 27:21Speaker 3: the Davis's are having a baby. And it's just like,
- 27:24Speaker 3: it comes off kind of creepy in tone anyway. And
- 27:27Speaker 3: then as it comes around, there's like this green hand
- 27:29Speaker 3: hanging out of the bassinet. And I remember, I don't
- 27:32Speaker 3: even know how young I was, but I remember like
- 27:34Speaker 3: that totally disturbing the hell out of me. Like to
- 27:38Speaker 3: the point of, like not wanting to see it when
- 27:41Speaker 3: it came on in the middle of cartoon and they
- 27:42Speaker 3: were running it. That was what became funny. And that's
- 27:45Speaker 3: why I remembered this one. It was so bad that
- 27:47Speaker 3: like my mom called the station. It was on the
- 27:52Speaker 3: local station and they were running it like in the
- 27:54Speaker 3: middle of the afternoon in the middle of cartoons. And
- 27:57Speaker 3: then when she called, they were like, yeah, we've got another.
- 28:00Speaker 10: So you're watching Muppet babies. Yeah.
- 28:03Speaker 3: It wasn't just me. I was just, yeah, I was
- 28:05Speaker 3: just like, and it's funny. Like, I think I remember
- 28:08Speaker 3: other stuff like that at that time. But then as
- 28:11Speaker 3: time went on, I was like, it's not that theme. Like,
- 28:13Speaker 3: I don't care about it now. It's like, I would
- 28:16Speaker 3: go watch the movie. In fact, I watched the trailer.
- 28:17Speaker 3: I was like, shit, we need to watch this. This
- 28:19Speaker 3: looks cheesy as hell. So I'm like, I'm kind of
- 28:22Speaker 3: all for watching it. And then they've done that sort
- 28:25Speaker 3: of evil thing, baby thing, a million times since then.
- 28:29Speaker 3: I mean, Grace was pretty huge a few years ago.
- 28:32Speaker 3: And I was thinking, I actually watched a short. We
- 28:35Speaker 3: talked to... Jack Daniel Stanley at Fright Night years ago,
- 28:39Speaker 3: who directed one called A Little Mouth to Feed. Go
- 28:42Speaker 3: find that. I think you can go to his website
- 28:44Speaker 3: and watch his short films. It's awesome. It's that same
- 28:48Speaker 3: creepy baby idea, and it's really well shot. So yeah,
- 28:52Speaker 3: go watch that if you want to see a creepy
- 28:53Speaker 3: baby movie. But yeah, it's weird, because it wasn't even
- 28:57Speaker 3: the movie itself. It was just that weird... And they
- 29:01Speaker 3: did a good job with it. Because the thing is,
- 29:02Speaker 3: the trailer, the actual trailer, is terrible. Like, it's just
- 29:05Speaker 3: random scenes slapped together. Like, the trailer is just a
- 29:08Speaker 3: bad trailer, but that TV spot is fucking creepy.
- 29:13Speaker 8: While we're talking about creepy babies, I think the one
- 29:15Speaker 8: that had probably most people that have seen it that
- 29:18Speaker 8: probably would freak them out, or did. I might have
- 29:21Speaker 8: been too young, because I think I was maybe 16
- 29:23Speaker 8: or 17 and thought I was cool watching it. But
- 29:26Speaker 8: when I first saw Eraserhead... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think
- 29:30Speaker 8: that messed me up in a couple of ways.
- 29:33Speaker 10: I'll give you that one.
- 29:37Speaker 8: And I've never gone back because I was. and that's
- 29:42Speaker 8: what I think of when you say trauma. If you
- 29:44Speaker 8: see something and you're like, I'm just going to, even
- 29:47Speaker 8: all the good, bad, great things you hear about, or
- 29:52Speaker 8: even people referencing it, I'm like, maybe I missed that
- 29:55Speaker 8: or maybe I should re, you know, whatever, but I won't.
- 29:58Speaker 8: Cause I'm like, that just is unsettling to me. And
- 30:00Speaker 8: like I said, maybe I was too young.
- 30:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:03Speaker 2: That's me in full metal jacket because I'm kind of
- 30:06Speaker 2: a completionist. I would like to see all Stanley Kubrick's movies.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I literally cannot watch that movie because my first memory
- 30:12Speaker 2: of it, my, it had just come out on videotape
- 30:14Speaker 2: and my cousin decided that that's a movie that he
- 30:17Speaker 2: and his little kid cousin should watch together. And I remember, um,
- 30:21Speaker 2: And I can still see the pattern on my aunt's
- 30:23Speaker 2: couch because I just remember putting my face into the
- 30:25Speaker 2: couch and crying and begging him not to make me
- 30:28Speaker 2: wash it. And I had a pillow over my head
- 30:31Speaker 2: just weeping because it was just the most insane, violent.
- 30:34Speaker 4: Thing I'd ever seen.
- 30:35Speaker 2: And it scarred me so profoundly that to this day,
- 30:37Speaker 2: like a couple years ago, I was like, okay, this
- 30:39Speaker 2: is silly.
- 30:40Speaker 5: I'm ready.
- 30:41Speaker 2: And somebody put it on Blu-ray and we got through
- 30:43Speaker 2: the first, you know, the Vincent D'Onofrio sequence. And then
- 30:45Speaker 2: I was like, nope, I'm out.
- 30:46Speaker 3: I can't do it. The impression of the pattern is
- 30:48Speaker 3: still kind of on your face a little bit.
- 30:50Speaker 8: You can't even watch Vincent Monoprio on TV now.
- 30:53Speaker 15: Yeah, I can't watch that on Ardor.
- 30:59Speaker 4: The rest was me and the couch.
- 31:00Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a shame because that is the
- 31:04Speaker 3: best part of the movie. You get to that halfway
- 31:06Speaker 3: point and it's a different movie.
- 31:08Speaker 14: I've never seen it. It's on my list, but I've
- 31:10Speaker 14: just never seen it.
- 31:11Speaker 10: The thing I remember the most is just the funniness
- 31:14Speaker 10: of it.
- 31:17Speaker 3: Kubrick's got his weird sense of humor.
- 31:19Speaker 5: Early Army, it's a mix of terrifying. Oh, yeah.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Well, and now he's just kind of funny. Like, he's
- 31:24Speaker 3: played that joke version of himself. But when that first
- 31:26Speaker 3: came out, like, nobody knew that as a joke.
- 31:29Speaker 10: So it's like.
- 31:30Speaker 3: He legitimately was probably frightening at that point.
- 31:33Speaker 8: His same character as Toy Story, the money guy from
- 31:36Speaker 8: Toy Story. You're going to take it as serious.
- 31:39Speaker 3: There's a dead version of that guy in The Frighteners
- 31:41Speaker 3: yelling at other ghosts. He does that version over and
- 31:45Speaker 3: over again.
- 31:45Speaker 15: It's like that bit they did on Saturday Night Live
- 31:48Speaker 15: where I think Phil Hartman was the drill sergeant, but
- 31:51Speaker 15: he was just so inarticulate. He would try to dress
- 31:55Speaker 15: people down, but he couldn't find the right words to say.
- 31:59Speaker 10: He said, so what are you laughing at, son? You're Mr. Laughing,
- 32:04Speaker 10: Joking Man.
- 32:06Speaker 12: I saw this great interview with Ernie, though, to where
- 32:09Speaker 12: he was talking about his character in the film versus
- 32:12Speaker 12: the Army now. And he said, oh, you can't do
- 32:13Speaker 12: that now because you can't hit the cadets or anything.
- 32:16Speaker 12: I can teach you so much if I can just
- 32:18Speaker 12: touch you.
- 32:21Speaker 5: Jesus, that's terrifying. He was interviewing him, right?
- 32:24Speaker 1: Sounds like a pedophile.
- 32:25Speaker 5: I could teach you so much if I could touch you.
- 32:29Speaker 3: Well, even in general, I mean, there's so much of
- 32:30Speaker 3: that stuff I don't think you can say anymore. Maybe
- 32:33Speaker 3: if nobody's around.
- 32:34Speaker 14: In the Army, I actually knew someone who had joined
- 32:38Speaker 14: the Air Force, and they said it's comical because they're
- 32:41Speaker 14: not allowed to swear at you. They can insult you,
- 32:44Speaker 14: but they say things like, get on the ground and
- 32:46Speaker 14: give me 20 push-ups, you little wussy, sissy baby.
- 32:50Speaker 15: Yeah, it's like a thousand and one Amish insult.
- 32:56Speaker 14: It's like you wussy, sissy.
- 33:00Speaker 3: It used to be nothing but jokes about you being
- 33:03Speaker 3: gay or jokes about your race. And it's like, well,
- 33:06Speaker 3: officially you shouldn't be able to do that anymore. So
- 33:08Speaker 3: what do they yell at you now?
- 33:10Speaker 10: Our wars are so much nicer now.
- 33:11Speaker 5: We really don't have that type of thing.
- 33:13Speaker 3: That's true.
- 33:13Speaker 8: I am all for them throwing all of that out.
- 33:16Speaker 8: If they can't take it, fuck out. That should be
- 33:20Speaker 8: the one place where anything goes.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Thank you, Sergeant Greg.
- 33:24Speaker 1: I'm not putting myself in that situation.
- 33:26Speaker 5: You need to apologize to the contention artist.
- 33:29Speaker 3: Isn't that funny, Sarge?
- 33:31Speaker 15: A Kubrick movie is one of my traumatic movies, but
- 33:35Speaker 15: it It was when I was grown, and for different reasons,
- 33:38Speaker 15: it was.
- 33:39Speaker 10: Eyes wide shut. It's kind of traumatizing. And it was
- 33:41Speaker 10: just because I was so disappointed in Cooper.
- 33:43Speaker 3: Right, right.
- 33:44Speaker 15: It's just, oh, that's awful. And then for other reasons,
- 33:49Speaker 15: because it was the first time that it occurred to
- 33:55Speaker 15: me that so many naked women could be so boring.
- 33:58Speaker 3: That was showgirls for me. Yeah. It was just like,
- 34:01Speaker 3: it was.
- 34:03Speaker 15: And the other thing, it was sort of that alienation
- 34:06Speaker 15: trauma because somebody told me how much they loved the movie.
- 34:09Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 34:10Speaker 10: And that person was my mom.
- 34:14Speaker 3: That's traumatizing. Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:16Speaker 10: She was going on about, I just thought it was
- 34:18Speaker 10: really well. And I'm like, mom, I don't know you.
- 34:22Speaker 3: And I don't want to know. Yeah.
- 34:24Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 34:25Speaker 3: While we're on the Kubrick run, I hadn't thought about
- 34:28Speaker 3: that one until you started your story, Lucy, but I
- 34:31Speaker 3: kind of had that, and on a Kubrick movie, I saw,
- 34:35Speaker 3: and it was one of those, again, when cable was
- 34:36Speaker 3: just sort of on, and I came in the room,
- 34:39Speaker 3: or maybe I turned it, I don't know, but I
- 34:41Speaker 3: came in in the middle of Clockwork Orange with the
- 34:46Speaker 3: big sculpture scene, and I... I was not ready for that.
- 34:51Speaker 10: Oh, and the cartoon thing. Yeah, I remember that. It
- 34:54Speaker 10: just took your breath away.
- 34:56Speaker 3: And it was one of those, yeah, I was like,
- 34:58Speaker 3: something about this is not right. And it did kind
- 35:01Speaker 3: of mess me up at that point, and I left
- 35:03Speaker 3: it alone. It was one of those, it was kind
- 35:04Speaker 3: of your reaction, Greg. I don't want to go back,
- 35:06Speaker 3: and it took me years and years to go, all right, fine,
- 35:10Speaker 3: let's see. And then I was like, holy shit, this
- 35:12Speaker 3: is amazing. So it's funny how much it put me
- 35:14Speaker 3: off of a good movie for, A long damn time.
- 35:18Speaker 5: The first time I saw that was with my grandmother.
- 35:20Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
- 35:21Speaker 5: It was nice and awkward.
- 35:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say so.
- 35:24Speaker 5: Well, the whole problem was it was AFI used to
- 35:27Speaker 5: do those lists all the time. So that was like this.
- 35:29Speaker 3: We need to hit all of these.
- 35:30Speaker 5: Yeah, growing up, that was the thing. We would go out,
- 35:33Speaker 5: we'd rent a couple movies and watch them.
- 35:35Speaker 12: And it worked well enough for the 100 greatest movies,
- 35:38Speaker 12: but then they did the 100 greatest thrillers or.
- 35:41Speaker 5: Something like that. And actually, it was the week before that.
- 35:46Speaker 5: we had watched Blue Velvet.
- 35:49Speaker 3: That's awkward enough.
- 35:50Speaker 5: This is on the list, and she's like, oh.
- 35:52Speaker 10: Dennis Hopper's great in that. I love that role.
- 35:54Speaker 5: And she's sitting there, and it's like, oh, this is awkward.
- 35:57Speaker 12: And the next we call it up with that, it's like,
- 35:58Speaker 12: I think I'm going to put this list to the side.
- 36:01Speaker 5: Until I'm watching these on my own.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Yeah, let me weed through some of these.
- 36:04Speaker 10: No, no.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I heard about movies with Fred's mom.
- 36:07Speaker 15: You know, actually, we watched Blue Velvet with the kids
- 36:10Speaker 15: a couple of weeks ago.
- 36:11Speaker 10: It was one of the ones. My son is wonderful.
- 36:15Speaker 15: Maybe he gets this from me, but if he has
- 36:17Speaker 15: friends over, he doesn't want to watch one of the movies.
- 36:20Speaker 10: I say you ought to watch.
- 36:21Speaker 3: Of course not.
- 36:23Speaker 10: Because his friends drive him crazy. They won't shut up
- 36:26Speaker 10: during the movie. And he feels like he's supposed to
- 36:29Speaker 10: really see the movie.
- 36:31Speaker 15: And so it was a little bit that way with
- 36:34Speaker 15: Blue Velvet.
- 36:34Speaker 10: There was a little too much talking going on.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Smack those kids around.
- 36:38Speaker 7: What the hell?
- 36:38Speaker 11: I feel like watching the movie, you would just sort of,
- 36:42Speaker 11: enraptured in silence. Like, I can't imagine talking through it.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Like, I'm going to text now.
- 36:47Speaker 5: Really?
- 36:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think kids sitting there watching it, you'd
- 36:51Speaker 3: feel the trauma wash over them.
- 36:53Speaker 12: It's something that kind of grows slightly humorous the more
- 36:56Speaker 12: you watch it.
- 36:56Speaker 3: Yeah, the first time. It's awkward.
- 36:58Speaker 15: Yeah, those first scenes with Dennis Hopper, who was just.
- 37:05Speaker 10: Weird enough anyway without going out of his way.
- 37:09Speaker 7: And amazing.
- 37:09Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 37:10Speaker 3: The perfect mix of the two.
- 37:13Speaker 11: I haven't seen that in years, but I've actually found
- 37:15Speaker 11: myself thinking about the music. So I listen to the
- 37:17Speaker 11: Blue Velvet theme, and I listen to the Roy Orbison song,
- 37:22Speaker 11: Candy Colored Cloud.
- 37:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:24Speaker 10: That scene is amazing.
- 37:26Speaker 13: He's a suave fuck.
- 37:30Speaker 10: He is.
- 37:32Speaker 11: On the topic of David Lynch, actually, I was going
- 37:34Speaker 11: to bring up Eraserhead, so it kind of comes full circle.
- 37:37Speaker 10: The first time I saw.
- 37:38Speaker 11: That was I was 18, and I had heard about it,
- 37:41Speaker 11: so I rented it, and I popped it in, and
- 37:44Speaker 11: I was five minutes in, and I just felt very,
- 37:47Speaker 11: very uncomfortable just with the whole mood, so I stopped
- 37:50Speaker 11: right there. And then I watched it later and forced
- 37:55Speaker 11: myself through it, and now it's like one of my
- 37:57Speaker 11: favorite movies. But it took me a minute.
- 38:01Speaker 12: Going back to what you were talking about earlier.
- 38:05Speaker 12: I sort of side with you in the sense I
- 38:06Speaker 12: watched so many horror films growing up, but not that
- 38:08Speaker 12: many bothered me.
- 38:08Speaker 5: The only one that actually sticks out is the original
- 38:12Speaker 5: Day of the Trippids.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Wow.
- 38:14Speaker 5: As cheesy as it is, and I think it's just
- 38:16Speaker 5: because it was so washed out. Because I've never seen a.
- 38:19Speaker 7: Clean version of that.
- 38:20Speaker 3: I have a VHS one at home.
- 38:24Speaker 12: There's something about it where even to this day, people say,
- 38:27Speaker 12: there's a meteor shower tonight.
- 38:28Speaker 5: Keeping me in the shower. I'm going inside and I'm
- 38:30Speaker 5: watching that.
- 38:32Speaker 3: I'm going to be over here poking the blob. Don't
- 38:33Speaker 3: worry about me.
- 38:34Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
- 38:35Speaker 15: Well, the one that got me as a kid was
- 38:38Speaker 15: Invasion of the Body Snatchers. And it's just so psychologically
- 38:43Speaker 15: strange to.
- 38:44Speaker 20: Think people not being the people you know. And, you know,
- 38:51Speaker 20: I had a, I think it had a big impact
- 38:53Speaker 20: on me because I already had like a really unhappy childhood.
- 38:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 38:57Speaker 10: I was just so unhappy. And then I watched that
- 38:59Speaker 10: movie and it's.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Like, oh.
- 39:04Speaker 15: It tapped into whatever sense of alienation or, I.
- 39:10Speaker 3: Don't know.
- 39:10Speaker 15: I think everybody maybe has some degree of unhappiness growing
- 39:16Speaker 15: up where just the walls of the house start to
- 39:19Speaker 15: be embedded with arguments and bickering and people you love
- 39:25Speaker 15: but you can't live with. You know, you just, everything starts.
- 39:30Speaker 15: to be annoying. And so that was my childhood. And,
- 39:36Speaker 15: you know, full scale. But that was the movie that
- 39:39Speaker 15: really just had a kind of resonance. And I loved
- 39:43Speaker 15: horror movies, but I tended to identify with the monsters.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 39:47Speaker 15: I didn't really find them frightening. I, I just, you know,
- 39:51Speaker 15: back in the day it was TV guide and you,
- 39:55Speaker 15: you'd scan the week for the horror movies and try
- 39:58Speaker 15: to be there when they were on.
- 40:00Speaker 10: Um, but that, that's the one that was, uh, really.
- 40:07Speaker 15: The traumatic, in the area of horror, which I would
- 40:11Speaker 15: class that rather than sci-fi.
- 40:13Speaker 3: It's a really smart movie, and it probably is because
- 40:15Speaker 3: it's so psychological. It's not a monster after you. It's
- 40:19Speaker 3: about everything around you collapsing, basically.
- 40:22Speaker 4: You guys just did a remake episode, right? Did you
- 40:25Speaker 4: address that one? Because that one's been.
- 40:26Speaker 3: Remade like four times. Yeah, at least four different versions.
- 40:30Speaker 3: We did the 70s one. I don't think we've covered
- 40:32Speaker 3: anything else.
- 40:33Speaker 4: Because I actually think the 70s one's more scary.
- 40:35Speaker 3: I really like the 70s one. I really like the
- 40:39Speaker 3: 70s one. But I went back and re-watched the first
- 40:42Speaker 3: one in addition to, just to kind of compare the two.
- 40:45Speaker 3: And the original's amazing, too. They're both really good. I
- 40:48Speaker 3: haven't seen the later two, so I'm assuming they're probably bad.
- 40:52Speaker 5: The 70s one is up. It's good.
- 40:57Speaker 15: See, everybody says that, but for me, the original one
- 41:01Speaker 15: is the only one.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's just a different theme. Like, it
- 41:05Speaker 3: becomes about an entirely different thing than the 50s one was.
- 41:09Speaker 5: What about the.
- 41:09Speaker 10: Dog with the human head?
- 41:13Speaker 3: I'm going to get one of those.
- 41:14Speaker 15: Apparently, I don't get this movie because, oh, and here's
- 41:18Speaker 15: a dog with a human head.
- 41:19Speaker 10: What does that have to do with anything?
- 41:21Speaker 3: You're going to turn into one of those now, I hope.
- 41:23Speaker 3: I guess. much like Channing Tatum he thinks he's people
- 41:31Speaker 3: nice poor Channing I hope he's listening anyway.
- 41:37Speaker 8: This is a little short one that was unexpectedly traumatic
- 41:42Speaker 8: and I've shared this with other people in the past
- 41:46Speaker 8: the same moment and I think it's because it's such
- 41:49Speaker 8: a fun almost innocent movie until this point and it's
- 41:54Speaker 8: just it's Two seconds of the film, but after that moment,
- 42:00Speaker 8: you're just kind of on edge. But in Pee Wee's
- 42:03Speaker 8: Big Adventure, the large mark. That is so traumatic to
- 42:09Speaker 8: see that face. And now, I mean, when he gets
- 42:12Speaker 8: into the truck, you're just building and building and building.
- 42:17Speaker 8: Every single time, I'm like, just don't do it. Just
- 42:19Speaker 8: don't do that part. It's kind of creepy. Because you
- 42:23Speaker 8: weren't expecting it.
- 42:24Speaker 3: That started, I'll give you the first time I saw that,
- 42:26Speaker 3: it did just totally catch me off guard. Because, again,
- 42:29Speaker 3: everything else is live action. And all of a sudden,
- 42:31Speaker 3: you get this cartoon, crazy animated thing. And you're just like, oh,
- 42:35Speaker 3: my God, what the hell just happened? But, again, fast
- 42:38Speaker 3: forward to me being a weird kid and then liking
- 42:41Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. Because most of the others
- 42:43Speaker 3: became that. So then you fast forward, like, five minutes
- 42:46Speaker 3: later when I'm slow-moing it on the VCR.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Going, look at him. Like, watching the eyes get giant. Yeah,
- 42:53Speaker 3: so the first time through. After that, I still, I
- 42:56Speaker 3: kind of love it. It's still unnerving, but it's pretty awesome.
- 42:59Speaker 11: That whole movie kind of has me on edge, though.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:02Speaker 11: I'd never seen Pee Wee Herman before watching this movie.
- 43:05Speaker 5: And, um.
- 43:06Speaker 11: I was just, I didn't know what to think. I
- 43:09Speaker 11: didn't know what I was supposed to be doing with myself.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Okay, wait, you can take that the wrong way.
- 43:17Speaker 1: What does the bike mean?
- 43:19Speaker 3: Pee-wee jokes. So, but yeah, I mean, it is, I've
- 43:25Speaker 3: always said that. It's like, Pee-wee's Big Adventure is different
- 43:28Speaker 3: than anything else Pee-wee related ever. It's definitely 90% Tim
- 43:32Speaker 3: Burton in my mind. It's very much His style and his,
- 43:36Speaker 3: you definitely get that Pee Wee character running through it
- 43:39Speaker 3: and his weird sense of humor, but so much of
- 43:42Speaker 3: the tone and what's going on is just so early
- 43:45Speaker 3: Tim Burton before.
- 43:46Speaker 5: He started to suck.
- 43:47Speaker 12: You know, you mentioned Tim Burton, that reminds me of
- 43:49Speaker 12: what you were talking about earlier, the sense of betrayal,
- 43:51Speaker 12: not necessarily terror from films, but over the summer, everyone
- 43:56Speaker 12: kept recommending Rise of the Planet of the Apes to me.
- 43:59Speaker 12: And so I was like, okay, I was completely betrayed
- 44:01Speaker 12: by Burton's.
- 44:03Speaker 5: You know, horrendous efforts.
- 44:05Speaker 10: Planet of the whatever.
- 44:06Speaker 3: Planet of the Marky Marks.
- 44:08Speaker 5: So everyone kept saying, oh, no, it's a great movie,
- 44:10Speaker 5: it's a great movie, and I was a fan of
- 44:11Speaker 5: all the originals. I thought, okay, I'll let you all
- 44:13Speaker 5: lure me to it.
- 44:14Speaker 12: So I was there with a couple friends that I
- 44:15Speaker 12: genuinely trust their, you know, movie insight.
- 44:18Speaker 5: And they'd seen it like three times. I thought, okay,
- 44:20Speaker 5: this has to be good. And the whole time I
- 44:21Speaker 5: was there, I was watching, I'm like, what is the
- 44:23Speaker 5: deal with this?
- 44:24Speaker 12: I'm like the only person in this theater who does
- 44:26Speaker 12: not like this. And even after the film, they were like,
- 44:30Speaker 12: why didn't you like it? And I gave like this
- 44:32Speaker 12: 20-minute discussion.
- 44:33Speaker 5: And they're like, You're putting too much thought into it.
- 44:38Speaker 15: I love it when people give you that, oh, you're
- 44:40Speaker 15: trying to make too big. No, it's just not working
- 44:43Speaker 15: for me.
- 44:44Speaker 8: If somebody spends $ 20, $ 30, $ 100 million on a film,
- 44:48Speaker 8: you're supposed to think about it. They invested a lot
- 44:51Speaker 8: of money into it.
- 44:52Speaker 10: He was like, give me one thing.
- 44:53Speaker 5: I said, how old is James Franco supposed to be?
- 44:56Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know, 30.
- 44:56Speaker 12: I said, well, 10 years have passed, so does that
- 44:58Speaker 12: mean that he was 20 when he discovered the cure
- 45:00Speaker 12: for Alzheimer's?
- 45:02Speaker 5: I didn't think about that much. That was the problem
- 45:04Speaker 5: when I saw the trailer.
- 45:06Speaker 3: See, we should come back to that because there's a
- 45:09Speaker 3: lot to deal with in that movie. I didn't hate it,
- 45:11Speaker 3: but again, I just don't put it with the other...
- 45:14Speaker 3: It's not in that realm.
- 45:16Speaker 1: It's a cool concept.
- 45:17Speaker 3: There's a lot.
- 45:18Speaker 8: Of cool stuff in it, but it felt flat for me.
- 45:21Speaker 2: I thought as subversive ALF propaganda as a mainstream film,
- 45:27Speaker 2: it was, I can't even believe this is happening right now.
- 45:29Speaker 4: It was just straight up Animal Liberation front.
- 45:31Speaker 3: I thought it was awesome. I don't know. There was
- 45:35Speaker 3: a lot of cool stuff in it. I still kind
- 45:39Speaker 3: of have issue with the cartoon monkeys, but it's funny
- 45:41Speaker 3: how quick everybody got over that. Everybody bad-mouthed it so
- 45:44Speaker 3: much on that trailer, and then suddenly they forgot about
- 45:46Speaker 3: that part.
- 45:47Speaker 4: Because he wins you over.
- 45:49Speaker 3: I was like, it's good. It's the best you can
- 45:51Speaker 3: do on CG, but it still kind of looks a
- 45:53Speaker 3: little weird. I don't know.
- 45:55Speaker 5: It looks too much like a painting still. Yeah, yeah.
- 45:58Speaker 3: It still kind of got bad.
- 45:58Speaker 5: Even that didn't bother me. I got over that. It
- 46:00Speaker 5: was just too many plot issues.
- 46:05Speaker 10: The childhood traumas, one I've heard about is a lot
- 46:10Speaker 10: of teachers will show Watership Downs because.
- 46:13Speaker 7: It's a cartoon.
- 46:14Speaker 5: I forgot.
- 46:14Speaker 10: And they don't know what they're doing. They just figure
- 46:18Speaker 10: it's a cartoon with rabbits. And then they pay no attention.
- 46:22Speaker 10: And the whole classrooms of kids are freaked out by it.
- 46:26Speaker 3: I think I did that to Misty. When we watched it,
- 46:29Speaker 3: she'd never seen it before. Yeah. What the hell are
- 46:32Speaker 3: we watching?
- 46:33Speaker 4: Oh, bunnies!
- 46:34Speaker 15: But, you know, it's funny about kids when they're growing up. Like,
- 46:37Speaker 15: sometimes when they're real little, stuff won't bother them, but
- 46:40Speaker 15: they're a little older. Like, you know, The Lion King.
- 46:43Speaker 15: My kids would watch.
- 46:44Speaker 10: They don't care.
- 46:44Speaker 3: Mufasa.
- 46:44Speaker 10: Okay, forget Mufasa. But then they get a little older,
- 46:48Speaker 10: and then it starts to bother them. Because, I don't know,
- 46:51Speaker 10: they're more aware of.
- 46:54Speaker 3: life stuff has weight then you know when you're a
- 46:56Speaker 3: little kid it doesn't mean anything but once you start
- 46:59Speaker 3: to realize oh his father's dead you know it's like
- 47:01Speaker 3: it does start to mean something that I don't think
- 47:04Speaker 3: it does when you're really.
- 47:05Speaker 14: Maybe because I don't have a father, like.
- 47:09Speaker 10: Because he was trampled by wildebeest, so.
- 47:12Speaker 3: That's, you know, that's... I couldn't relate. If we had
- 47:16Speaker 3: a nickel for having people hear Father Trampled by Wildebeest.
- 47:19Speaker 14: I mean, everyone loves The Lion King. I mean, people
- 47:22Speaker 14: in my generation love The Lion King, and they remember it,
- 47:25Speaker 14: and it's like one of their favorite movies from their childhood,
- 47:27Speaker 14: and I'm just like, I didn't really like it. I
- 47:29Speaker 14: didn't like it as a kid. I hated Charlotte's Web. Like,
- 47:32Speaker 14: my aunt kept trying to buy me that.
- 47:34Speaker 10: You hated Templeton?
- 47:36Speaker 3: Templeton's fun. Come on.
- 47:37Speaker 14: Like the cartoon. You know, my aunt kept trying to
- 47:40Speaker 14: buy me the VHS tape, and I kept, like, throwing
- 47:43Speaker 14: it away, and she'd find it.
- 47:45Speaker 10: It comes back.
- 47:48Speaker 14: I fucking hate this movie. Stop trying to give it
- 47:50Speaker 14: to me.
- 47:51Speaker 3: The pig came back the very next day.
- 47:52Speaker 14: That's true, but that was actually before I was attacked
- 47:54Speaker 14: by a pig and gained my pig phobia. But, I mean.
- 47:58Speaker 3: I'll give you Lion King. I was not on board.
- 48:00Speaker 3: I know people still love it.
- 48:03Speaker 10: It's JTT.
- 48:04Speaker 3: No, it was the fucking song. That Elton John score
- 48:08Speaker 3: is just obnoxious. He had good days, but they're well
- 48:13Speaker 3: before Lion King came around.
- 48:16Speaker 15: Oh, man, I could probably enact the Lion King word
- 48:18Speaker 15: for word.
- 48:19Speaker 3: Well, it's because it's Shakespeare, but anyway.
- 48:23Speaker 15: But the funny thing was, everybody went on like there
- 48:26Speaker 15: was something about the clouds that looked like it spelled sex.
- 48:30Speaker 10: I was like, forget that. Why are you looking for
- 48:33Speaker 10: subliminal stuff? There's a scene in it where the two
- 48:38Speaker 10: lions go rolling down a hill. He lands on top
- 48:40Speaker 10: of her.
- 48:41Speaker 7: She.
- 48:42Speaker 10: She reaches up and licks his face, and he goes, wrong?
- 48:46Speaker 14: Right.
- 48:46Speaker 10: And then he looks at her, and.
- 48:48Speaker 15: She does this face, and it's that face women do
- 48:51Speaker 15: that says, do me.
- 48:54Speaker 10: Right. Missionary position, though. That's the funny thing.
- 48:56Speaker 3: That's what's funny.
- 48:57Speaker 15: And it's like, how do the cartoonists even know about
- 49:00Speaker 15: that face?
- 49:01Speaker 10: They had to bring in horny lionesses.
- 49:03Speaker 5: To try to capture that.
- 49:05Speaker 10: If I saw a real actress do that in a movie,
- 49:08Speaker 10: I'd say it's Oscar time.
- 49:09Speaker 15: Because nobody can do that with command.
- 49:12Speaker 3: I know trained actresses.
- 49:14Speaker 10: And I've asked them, can you do that? I dare you.
- 49:17Speaker 10: Try to do that. They can't do it.
- 49:19Speaker 3: I like that you assume the cartoonists have never been late.
- 49:24Speaker 3: It's sad, but that might be true.
- 49:27Speaker 10: But the first time I watched it, I'm like, what
- 49:29Speaker 10: the fuck is going to happen here? I don't know
- 49:34Speaker 10: where this is going.
- 49:35Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I like that they, they end up missionary. Like,
- 49:38Speaker 3: I'm just like, they're animals. That's not how it goes.
- 49:41Speaker 19: I think it is.
- 49:42Speaker 5: A Disney policy. The cartoonists that they hired, they aren't
- 49:45Speaker 5: allowed to have sex.
- 49:46Speaker 3: That's why, that's why it manifests itself on the screen.
- 49:50Speaker 10: Running an evil empire.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Sure.
- 49:53Speaker 5: Um, I don't know.
- 49:55Speaker 3: Uh, Well, there's a lot about that. I mean, I've
- 49:57Speaker 3: always had issues with this. Again, we're sidetracked. But I mean,
- 50:00Speaker 3: that whole movie, like how many animal asses do I
- 50:03Speaker 3: need to see in one movie? Like it becomes like
- 50:07Speaker 3: the whole song. Yeah, that whole song is nothing. But
- 50:10Speaker 3: then you get the whole, oh, good, let's work in
- 50:12Speaker 3: fart jokes in this kid's movie. And you get nothing
- 50:15Speaker 3: but shots of his ass. And I'm just like, this
- 50:17Speaker 3: is dumb. It is, and it didn't used to be.
- 50:20Speaker 12: There was a bunch of fallout, too, about the Be
- 50:23Speaker 12: Prepared song. The hyenas look too much like Nazis.
- 50:25Speaker 3: See, that's the only scene I liked. I thought it
- 50:29Speaker 3: was very obvious that's what they're doing.
- 50:31Speaker 12: They actually had to change it for one of the
- 50:32Speaker 12: DVD releases or something. There's a revised version to where
- 50:35Speaker 12: they aren't marching.
- 50:36Speaker 5: That way or something like that.
- 50:38Speaker 3: That's the whole point.
- 50:39Speaker 10: Because they're going to offend Nazis?
- 50:42Speaker 18: Yeah.
- 50:42Speaker 10: The Nazis are going to be offended by this comparison.
- 50:47Speaker 8: The funny thing is, is they've got this whole Nazi,
- 50:49Speaker 8: you know, symbology and be prepared. That's, boy scout theme.
- 50:54Speaker 10: Yeah and you're linking.
- 50:55Speaker 3: That's actually kind of cool that's the only part of
- 50:58Speaker 3: that movie i like scar because he's a he's just
- 51:00Speaker 3: a backstabbing sniveling you know he's a great villain jeremy
- 51:04Speaker 3: irons doing lines from his jeremy irons movies in the
- 51:08Speaker 3: middle of a disney movie is hilarious you have no
- 51:12Speaker 3: idea i was just like okay the fact that they
- 51:14Speaker 3: work that into a disney movie is Fucking awesome.
- 51:17Speaker 11: I always wondered how it happened that as soon as
- 51:18Speaker 11: Scar took the throne, like, the grass all died and
- 51:21Speaker 11: the river.
- 51:23Speaker 3: He's that evil.
- 51:24Speaker 10: He angered the gods, apparently.
- 51:27Speaker 8: But it all turns green again the second, you know.
- 51:30Speaker 3: The second that cheesy-ass song kicks in.
- 51:32Speaker 11: Yeah, oh, God.
- 51:33Speaker 10: Fucking circle of life, man.
- 51:35Speaker 14: You know, I think as far as movies, you know,
- 51:38Speaker 14: you were talking about David Lynch movies earlier. And when
- 51:41Speaker 14: I was, like, 11 years old, for some reason I
- 51:44Speaker 14: rented Lost Highway.
- 51:45Speaker 6: Okay.
- 51:47Speaker 3: That's only traumatizing because your brain's trying to make sense.
- 51:49Speaker 15: Actually, that traumatized him. I believe it did, the process
- 51:54Speaker 15: of trying to do TV.
- 51:55Speaker 10: He said he'd never.
- 51:56Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were going to say Robert Blake.
- 52:01Speaker 3: Well, something did.
- 52:02Speaker 14: I can't think of a movie that wholly traumatizes me.
- 52:05Speaker 14: There's scenes from movies. When I was like 11, I
- 52:08Speaker 14: didn't get the movie. There's no getting that movie. There's
- 52:11Speaker 14: nothing to be gotten.
- 52:12Speaker 5: No, there isn't.
- 52:13Speaker 12: It's one of the few Lynch movies where every time
- 52:16Speaker 12: I watch it, it's like, okay, I know what I
- 52:17Speaker 12: think happens.
- 52:18Speaker 3: I think I figured it out.
- 52:19Speaker 5: I'm like, I know less.
- 52:23Speaker 14: I felt so guilty and bad about myself and stupid
- 52:26Speaker 14: for not getting this movie. I'm just like, it's clearly
- 52:29Speaker 14: a movie for adults and I'm not ready.
- 52:31Speaker 3: But no, I watched it as an adult.
- 52:33Speaker 14: I'm just like, no, it's just this movie. It makes
- 52:35Speaker 14: no sense. But Robert Blake, or, yeah, is that what
- 52:39Speaker 14: his name is, Robert Blake?
- 52:40Speaker 17: Oh, yeah.
- 52:41Speaker 14: I just, I was trying to think of his name,
- 52:42Speaker 14: and I Googled it a couple of minutes ago on
- 52:44Speaker 14: my phone, and the image of him in that movie
- 52:47Speaker 14: made me shudder. Like, I had nightmares about Robert Blake
- 52:51Speaker 14: in that movie. He's a terrifying man. I mean, like,
- 52:55Speaker 14: when I was a kid, I was kind of afraid
- 52:56Speaker 14: of Tim Curry, but, like, Tim Curry is like, I
- 52:59Speaker 14: would bat popsicles from Tim Curry compared to Robert Blake.
- 53:04Speaker 14: But another movie that really, you know, I wasn't really
- 53:07Speaker 14: allowed to, like, watch this movie, but my mom was
- 53:09Speaker 14: watching it when I was really little. The Hand That
- 53:12Speaker 14: Rocks the Cradle.
- 53:13Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 53:14Speaker 14: I think there's a scene where, like, the woman is, like,
- 53:17Speaker 14: breastfeeding the other lady's baby. For some reason, that really was, like,
- 53:21Speaker 14: horribly disturbing for some.
- 53:23Speaker 15: So, and Brian saw the hand that comes out of
- 53:26Speaker 15: the cradle while another hand is rocking the cradle.
- 53:29Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 53:30Speaker 3: Traumatizing.
- 53:31Speaker 14: It's all creepy.
- 53:32Speaker 3: Babies are creepy is the moral of this.
- 53:36Speaker 12: I'm tormenting children, too, with showing them a movie they're
- 53:38Speaker 12: not going to understand. It's like punishment in elementary school
- 53:41Speaker 12: to make a kid watch a Bergman film. You won't
- 53:43Speaker 12: tell me what this is about.
- 53:45Speaker 19: No!
- 53:47Speaker 3: You make my brain hurt.
- 53:48Speaker 8: They showed us White Christmas in grade school, and I
- 53:52Speaker 8: just remember... Not that there was anything to understand, but
- 53:55Speaker 8: what third grader is going to give a shit.
- 53:57Speaker 1: About this movie? It was because it was free and
- 54:01Speaker 1: we were in private school and we had no money.
- 54:03Speaker 5: That kind of stuff.
- 54:06Speaker 1: I won't watch that one.
- 54:08Speaker 4: A lot of Christmas movies are just.
- 54:10Speaker 14: Even It's a Wonderful Life.
- 54:12Speaker 3: That's a bit too out there for a small child.
- 54:15Speaker 5: It's pretty traumatizing.
- 54:16Speaker 15: It traumatizes me because I can't disentangle it from Death
- 54:21Speaker 15: of a Salesman. There are just too many parallels between
- 54:25Speaker 15: those two movies for me. And that kind of happens
- 54:28Speaker 15: like with some other movies. They just sort of fuse together.
- 54:32Speaker 15: Like Disney's Beauty and the Beast gets mixed up with
- 54:37Speaker 15: Madame Bovary somehow because it's like this woman in... in
- 54:42Speaker 15: a provincial French town, and she likes to read, but
- 54:45Speaker 15: she has the same kind of romantic bullshit taste that
- 54:48Speaker 15: Madame Bovary has.
- 54:49Speaker 3: And there's candlesticks talking to her.
- 54:51Speaker 15: And so I can't help picturing her, like, coughing up
- 54:54Speaker 15: that black stuff, like Bovary does.
- 54:56Speaker 10: At the end of the novel.
- 54:58Speaker 15: Yeah.
- 54:59Speaker 3: And Beast eats it.
- 55:00Speaker 10: And, yeah. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Is it an air ball?
- 55:06Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 55:07Speaker 3: That's dramatic.
- 55:08Speaker 5: Was she in third grade until White Christmas?
- 55:10Speaker 18: I remember.
- 55:11Speaker 12: being shown in 2001 in sixth grade.
- 55:13Speaker 3: Wow.
- 55:14Speaker 12: So as this 11-year-old, I remember sitting there thinking, somebody
- 55:17Speaker 12: say something.
- 55:19Speaker 8: Right, right.
- 55:22Speaker 1: When the most, yeah, as a child, the most interesting
- 55:24Speaker 1: part is probably the intermission.
- 55:26Speaker 5: The only thing I remember from that when I was
- 55:28Speaker 5: a kid was like, cool, there's toilets in space. That
- 55:30Speaker 5: was like it.
- 55:32Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
- 55:33Speaker 11: This is so boring.
- 55:35Speaker 14: And, Is traumatizing a word? I say it because everyone
- 55:39Speaker 14: else around me says it. It's one of those things
- 55:41Speaker 14: that I've always said, but I'm like, no, traumatic I
- 55:43Speaker 14: think is correct. Is traumatizing even a word?
- 55:47Speaker 5: I think it's a word.
- 55:47Speaker 14: I feel really stupid asking that question, and I meant
- 55:50Speaker 14: to look it up weeks ago. I say it, and
- 55:52Speaker 14: it just doesn't sound correct.
- 55:54Speaker 3: I think as a society, we make whatever the hell
- 55:55Speaker 3: we want words. So as long as everybody's saying it,
- 55:58Speaker 3: it's a word.
- 55:59Speaker 10: Here's a childhood trauma a friend told me. A guy
- 56:03Speaker 10: at work.
- 56:04Speaker 3: You just look like you're too excited about this. Yeah. Well,
- 56:08Speaker 3: I love this.
- 56:08Speaker 5: This is going to be great.
- 56:11Speaker 15: Well, he was at a little store, and they have
- 56:13Speaker 15: those dollar DVDs, and he saw Lassie, and he remembered
- 56:18Speaker 15: Lassie movies from when he was a kid. So he
- 56:21Speaker 15: picked one up for his daughter, who was about six.
- 56:24Speaker 15: He said, oh, you'll love this. Lassie is this dog,
- 56:27Speaker 15: and she saves people, and Timmy's down the well.
- 56:31Speaker 10: It'll be great. And he goes home and he watches
- 56:34Speaker 10: the movie with her, and Lassie kills a guy.
- 56:38Speaker 3: With a sawed-off shotgun.
- 56:41Speaker 15: Lassie's owner is a prospector, and his partner double-crosses.
- 56:48Speaker 10: Him and murders him. But then.
- 56:53Speaker 15: The bad guy winds up on the edge of a cliff,
- 56:55Speaker 15: and he's about to fall, and he's like, okay, Lassie's
- 56:58Speaker 15: going to help him and he'll see that he shouldn't be.
- 57:01Speaker 10: So no, she kind of nudges him off.
- 57:04Speaker 3: Good going Lassie.
- 57:06Speaker 10: There was no Timmy in the movie. And, uh, and
- 57:09Speaker 10: he tells me about it and I'm like, Oh God,
- 57:11Speaker 10: I've got to see this movie. And you bring it in. And, uh,
- 57:14Speaker 10: the next day he's like, Oh yeah, I forgot to
- 57:17Speaker 10: bring that in. I'm sorry. And I guess it's good
- 57:19Speaker 10: because then my daughter wanted to watch it again.
- 57:24Speaker 15: So we watched it again, and the second time through,
- 57:26Speaker 15: now I know what's happening, and.
- 57:28Speaker 10: You can see that it's premeditated. Lassie actually plots the thing.
- 57:34Speaker 15: She lures him out to the cliff and then nudges
- 57:38Speaker 15: him off.
- 57:40Speaker 10: I watched it. It's called The Painted Hills. I've got
- 57:43Speaker 10: a couple of copies.
- 57:44Speaker 3: Just in case.
- 57:45Speaker 15: I ran out and got the last ones there. And
- 57:48Speaker 15: there are just beautiful things in it. There's when the
- 57:52Speaker 15: guy tries to poison Lassie and he has a bottle
- 57:55Speaker 15: marked poison in his kitchen just sitting there.
- 57:59Speaker 10: Pours it in the food, but Lassie's a little too smart.
- 58:01Speaker 3: Lassie can read. Don't you worry about it.
- 58:05Speaker 10: Yeah, so that could have been traumatizing, but it wasn't.
- 58:08Speaker 10: Apparently the kid liked it.
- 58:10Speaker 3: It makes me like Lassie a little bit more.
- 58:12Speaker 12: Something to be said for that, too, to where it's
- 58:14Speaker 12: VHS box covers that just... led you astray or actually
- 58:17Speaker 12: confirmed what you wanted to see in a film.
- 58:20Speaker 7: One of the two.
- 58:22Speaker 3: The Painted Hills. Painted with blood.
- 58:26Speaker 14: I mean, you know, I was at my mom's house
- 58:29Speaker 14: earlier and we were talking about Night.
- 58:30Speaker 5: Of the Lepus, which we reviewed.
- 58:33Speaker 14: My grandpa, she was actually telling me about how my
- 58:35Speaker 14: grandpa and my aunt's ex-husband would bang on the pots
- 58:40Speaker 14: to make the rabbits run through the scenes. She's afraid
- 58:44Speaker 14: of rabbits because of that movie.
- 58:47Speaker 3: So are you now. You were traumatized by that movie.
- 58:51Speaker 12: I like that the size of the rabbits is never consistent.
- 58:53Speaker 12: Sometimes they're like a Great Dane. Sometimes they're three stories tall.
- 58:56Speaker 3: It depends on what footage they had sitting around.
- 59:00Speaker 5: Dee Forrest Kelly slumming it after Star Trek.
- 59:04Speaker 3: They were all kind of.
- 59:05Speaker 1: That whole cast.
- 59:05Speaker 3: Oh, that movie's fun. I don't know what you're talking about. about.
- 59:10Speaker 14: True work of art. I'm so glad that's part of
- 59:13Speaker 14: my family history.
- 59:16Speaker 3: You should be proud of that.
- 59:18Speaker 11: Probably one of my most traumatic... movies that I actually
- 59:21Speaker 11: saw just a few months ago is Inland Empire, going
- 59:24Speaker 11: back to David Lynch yet again.
- 59:25Speaker 5: Third or fourth time.
- 59:27Speaker 3: He's a creepy dude.
- 59:29Speaker 14: I think it's its goal to traumatize people.
- 59:32Speaker 11: Has anybody here seen this one?
- 59:33Speaker 3: No.
- 59:35Speaker 11: So it's three hours long. It's his follow-up to Mulholland Drive.
- 59:39Speaker 11: And it's like watching a nightmare. I felt like David
- 59:41Speaker 11: Lynch himself had personally raped my brain from my ear.
- 59:46Speaker 3: That leads me to a couple of mine, but go
- 59:47Speaker 3: ahead and finish yours.
- 59:50Speaker 11: I don't want to give anything away.
- 59:51Speaker 5: You're working your way up to the Lord Dern face.
- 59:53Speaker 3: Aren't you?
- 59:54Speaker 6: Oh, God, no.
- 59:56Speaker 3: Not the cry face.
- 59:57Speaker 17: No.
- 59:58Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that got me. It's like watching a nightmare,
- 1:00:02Speaker 11: like I said, and then suddenly the camera pulls away,
- 1:00:06Speaker 11: and it's hard to get into this without specifics, but
- 1:00:10Speaker 11: it's like the nightmare is over, and I felt like
- 1:00:13Speaker 11: this wave of relief, and then suddenly it's not over,
- 1:00:16Speaker 11: and then you get... some weird head with a hole
- 1:00:18Speaker 11: in it spouting blood mist in the board.
- 1:00:24Speaker 17: Yeah.
- 1:00:25Speaker 12: See, that was traumatic for me, too, in the sense
- 1:00:27Speaker 12: that I was watching that, it's like, how he's fallen.
- 1:00:30Speaker 12: To me, it was almost the equivalent of, you know,
- 1:00:32Speaker 12: a grandmother with Alzheimer's. The first time you get to
- 1:00:34Speaker 12: a family function and she looks at you and can't
- 1:00:36Speaker 12: remember your name.
- 1:00:37Speaker 5: Like, that sense of disappointment, that's the way I felt
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: when I watched this. I was like, oh, he's just
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: lost it. I feel so bad.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: Really?
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that the problem with it, if I'm
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: not mistaken, this is the.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: First time he went into digital video, and I think
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: that's sort of the problem.
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: He needs something to ground him.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: He needs some sort of, like, no, this is what
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: you can do, and this is only what you can do.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: Three hours. You have to make it happen within these limitations.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: But when he just had a camera in his hand,
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: he got to run all over the place and do
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: whatever he wanted and have whatever budget.
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: That's when it was like, it's over.
- 1:01:08Speaker 15: He needs to have a genre that goes horribly awry.
- 1:01:14Speaker 15: Unless he has the structure to go awry, then he's
- 1:01:18Speaker 15: just awry.
- 1:01:20Speaker 11: Maybe it was because I had just watched Lost Highway
- 1:01:24Speaker 11: and I had just re-watched Mulholland Drive. So by the
- 1:01:26Speaker 11: time I got to Inland Empire, I went into it
- 1:01:28Speaker 11: knowing it's not going to make any sense. I'm just
- 1:01:30Speaker 11: going to sit back and let it happen to me.
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably more horrifying when things are structured a
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: little bit. I mean, that's when thinking of some of
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: the favorite ones, which minorly strays out of... movies but
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: to me twin peaks is just a really long creepy
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: movie but yeah i mean some of the bob footage
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: is frightening and still like i yeah i kind of
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: see bob hiding in corners around my house sometimes and
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: it's frightening um but some of the stuff in the
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: train car and some of that crosses over into firewalk
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: with me but a lot of it just in that
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: first season of the show is like fucking traumatizing right
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: there midget's talking backwards that part's just kind of fun
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: but it is kind of.
- 1:02:13Speaker 12: Fun the show i really felt like basically after laura
- 1:02:16Speaker 12: palmer's killer was unveiled oh yeah should have kind of
- 1:02:19Speaker 12: stopped there was work yeah there's a miniseries then.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: There was no point yeah Because, I mean, anything after that,
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: then you get to the weird James offshoot story. I'm like,
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: nobody wants that.
- 1:02:28Speaker 12: Earl's stuff, by the end of the second season, was
- 1:02:30Speaker 12: starting to pick up again, but that low point in
- 1:02:32Speaker 12: between the two arcs.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: It's rough.
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: The beginning of the second season, it's rough.
- 1:02:36Speaker 14: My mother on the show was terrified.
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: Fizzgate? I thought we just started referring to her as Fizzy.
- 1:02:46Speaker 11: Grace Zabriskie, right?
- 1:02:48Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: She's always terrifying.
- 1:02:50Speaker 11: Yeah, she was in the beginning of Inland Empire as
- 1:02:52Speaker 11: this really creepy Polish woman, something like that.
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: She just came over and spoke all cryptically.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: She's just creepy in general.
- 1:02:59Speaker 12: There's a lot of cool visuals in that Inland Empire,
- 1:03:01Speaker 12: but as a whole, I was like, no, this is
- 1:03:03Speaker 12: like the last 20 minutes of Mulholland Drive expanded to
- 1:03:06Speaker 12: like three hours.
- 1:03:07Speaker 7: Oh, God.
- 1:03:08Speaker 11: You know Mulholland Drive actually.
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: There's parking and rambling.
- 1:03:10Speaker 16: Yeah.
- 1:03:11Speaker 11: Mulholland Drive actually started life as a television pilot, which
- 1:03:16Speaker 11: I think would have been really interesting. I'd love to
- 1:03:18Speaker 11: see him go back to TV.
- 1:03:20Speaker 10: That's what traumatized him.
- 1:03:21Speaker 15: He said he'd never do TV because the whole experience
- 1:03:25Speaker 15: of trying to do what he wanted and work with TV,
- 1:03:29Speaker 15: it was just.
- 1:03:31Speaker 10: Really frustrated and angry about it.
- 1:03:33Speaker 14: I think he'd be more suited for HBO or something.
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: It's different now.
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point you probably could, and they would
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: give him a budget to do it.
- 1:03:41Speaker 12: In Small Holland Drive, I mean, it's obvious where the
- 1:03:44Speaker 12: two pilot episodes or the two episodes that kind of
- 1:03:48Speaker 12: join together are, and then where it sort of diverges
- 1:03:51Speaker 12: from that to where you just tack on an ending
- 1:03:53Speaker 12: to make it a film, because it just feels like
- 1:03:55Speaker 12: the last 20, 30 minutes is just going to throw
- 1:03:57Speaker 12: a bunch of stuff at you and hope that you'll
- 1:03:59Speaker 12: assume that you just couldn't get it.
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: No, there's nothing there.
- 1:04:03Speaker 7: You're not going to get it.
- 1:04:05Speaker 15: Well that leaves you with like a weird frustrating feeling
- 1:04:09Speaker 15: and it's like it's like Iago.
- 1:04:15Speaker 10: Is the only Shakespeare villain who just will.
- 1:04:18Speaker 15: Never you never get any glimpse of humanity or anything
- 1:04:23Speaker 15: it's almost like he knows that the audience wants some
- 1:04:26Speaker 15: sort of why did you do it fuck you it's
- 1:04:31Speaker 15: so frustrating it's like where's the.
- 1:04:33Speaker 12: Sense in this it's just It kind of reminds me
- 1:04:37Speaker 12: of what was in The Company of Men, because we
- 1:04:39Speaker 12: were talking about Valentine's Day movies earlier.
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: It's the same with Aaron Eckhart at the end of
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: that movie. The fellow asks him, why? He's like, because
- 1:04:48Speaker 5: it's good. It's that very cold-hearted lack of reason that
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: somebody gives you. It's just very eerie.
- 1:04:55Speaker 14: Because I hate Mondays. Like the girl who killed a
- 1:05:01Speaker 14: bunch of school children because she hated Mondays.
- 1:05:03Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:05:04Speaker 14: Perfectly sane and logical.
- 1:05:08Speaker 5: Wait, what?
- 1:05:09Speaker 14: In the 70s, there was this teenage girl who broke
- 1:05:12Speaker 14: out her, like, I don't think it was an AK-47,
- 1:05:16Speaker 14: but it was some type of crazy, sharp shooting gun
- 1:05:20Speaker 14: and fired across the street into a crowd of school
- 1:05:23Speaker 14: children and killed, like, a couple of teachers and wounded
- 1:05:26Speaker 14: a bunch of children. And a telephone reporter called her
- 1:05:29Speaker 14: on her phone and she answered and they're like, why
- 1:05:31Speaker 14: are you doing this? She says, because I hate Mondays.
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: That's what the Boomtown Rats song is. That song from
- 1:05:37Speaker 4: the 80s. I would sing it if I could sing,
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: but I can't.
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: Bust it out. Come on.
- 1:05:46Speaker 7: Okay, kids.
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: This topic is way too interesting for one episode. So,
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: we're going to wrap it up for now, but we'll
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: be back with more traumatic movies next time. Otherwise, that
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: about does it. We will return next week. Same geek time,
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:06:03Speaker 17: The silicon chip.
- 1:06:07Speaker 16: Inside her head gets switched to overload And nobody's gonna
- 1:06:15Speaker 16: go to school today, she's gonna make them stay at
- 1:06:19Speaker 16: home Daddy doesn't understand it, he always said she was
- 1:06:25Speaker 16: good as gold And.
- 1:06:27Speaker 19: He can see no reasons, cause there are no reasons.
- 1:06:30Speaker 19: What reason do you need to be shown?
- 1:06:35Speaker 9: Tell me why I don't like Mondays.
- 1:06:39Speaker 17: Tell me why I don't like Mondays.
- 1:06:42Speaker 5: Tell me why I don't like Mondays.
- 1:06:46Speaker 7: I want to.
- 1:06:47Speaker 19: Shoot the whole day down.
- 1:06:57Speaker 9: The Tenex machine is kept so clean And it types
- 1:07:03Speaker 9: to a waging world A mother feels so shocked Father's
- 1:07:08Speaker 9: world is rocked And the dogs turn to their own
- 1:07:12Speaker 9: little girl Sweet sixteen make their feet.
- 1:07:15Speaker 19: Cheeky Now I ain't so old to admit defeat They
- 1:07:18Speaker 19: can see no reasons Cause there are no reasons.
- 1:07:22Speaker 16: What reasons do Tell me.
- 1:07:27Speaker 19: Why I don't like Mondays. Tell me why I don't
- 1:07:32Speaker 19: like Mondays.
- 1:07:33Speaker 17: Tell me why I don't like Mondays.
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: I want to shoot.
- 1:07:43Speaker 19: The whole day down, down, down, shoot.
- 1:07:48Speaker 17: It on down. And now the playing's.
- 1:08:05Speaker 16: Stopped in the playground now.
- 1:08:07Speaker 10: She wants to play with her.
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: Toy doll now.
- 1:08:10Speaker 19: And schools are early and soon we'll be learning and
- 1:08:14Speaker 19: the lesson today is how to die. And then the
- 1:08:18Speaker 19: bull home crackles and the captain tackles with the trouble
- 1:08:23Speaker 19: of a housewife. And he can see no reasons cause
- 1:08:27Speaker 19: there are no reasons. What reason do you need to die?
- 1:08:32Speaker 17: Die.
- 1:08:34Speaker 7: Oh.
- 1:08:35Speaker 10: Tell me why I don't like money.
- 1:08:38Speaker 4: Tell me why I don't.
- 1:08:40Speaker 19: Tell me why I don't like, I don't like, I
- 1:08:46Speaker 19: don't like money.
- 1:08:47Speaker 17: Tell me why I don't like, I don't like, I
- 1:08:52Speaker 17: don't like Mondays.
- 1:08:54Speaker 19: Tell me why I don't like Mondays.
- 1:08:58Speaker 7: I want to.
- 1:08:59Speaker 17: Shoot the whole day down.
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: Somebody say something.
- 1:09:24Speaker 10: Talk hard!